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Athena
2012-05-21, 18:08
^I'd be one of the first to Photoshop one. :heh:

Richocet
2012-05-21, 21:30
^I'd be one of the first to Photoshop one. :heh:

And I would support you in your endeavor, as she belongs next to Kamito
I can see her appearing first and foremost by his left side to interupt him when he is about to kiss Est:heh:

All Fiction
2012-05-21, 21:45
I wonder if Restia and Est are going to be friendly with each other.

Log
2012-05-21, 21:49
I wonder if Restia and Est are going to be friendly with each other.

About as friendly as Claire and every other girl................................... which is to say that they are going to try to kill each other.

Kamito and the Jelly Factory anyone?

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 03:38
I just want Restia back to Kamito..... thats all.
since i like to watch Restia and Kamito relationship

PCheshire
2012-05-22, 03:50
pretty much everyone who wants the next volume is looking forward to seeing Ren Ashbell instead of the girls

dragon1412
2012-05-22, 05:12
pretty much everyone who wants the next volume is looking forward to seeing Ren Ashbell instead of the girls

and you are telling me that you aren't one of them? :D

n0m@n
2012-05-22, 05:24
Im definitely one of them!

The girl(or possible cross-dresser) in the cover of volume 7 looks the hottest out of all the girls so far.

Man, I should have ordered volume 7. I just wish someone kind enough will upload it on the net.

PCheshire
2012-05-22, 06:15
and you are telling me that you aren't one of them? :D

nope... me first!! :mad:

Soji
2012-05-22, 08:14
About as friendly as Claire and every other girl................................... which is to say that they are going to try to kill each other.

Kamito and the Jelly Factory anyone?
Or Restia and Est agree to not let any girl but them to be with him:p If this happen the harem is screw.:heh:

I just want Restia back to Kamito..... thats all.
since i like to watch Restia and Kamito relationship
Same here. I really want her back to him .
Im definitely one of them!

The girl(or possible cross-dresser) in the cover of volume 7 looks the hottest out of all the girls so far.

Man, I should have ordered volume 7. I just wish someone kind enough will upload it on the net.
If I say I disagree would be a lie. I can't deny that what you say is true how the hell he can be like that:heh:But I hope more on Restia come back to him. (maybe this vol).:p

kfcpanda
2012-05-22, 08:16
Hmm, any chance of someone doing detailed summaries like what enigmaticaxiom/whsie are doing in the Mahouka thread?
So that people don't have to wait for translations at BT to catch up

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 08:31
first time i read this novel..............
i never thought that kamito would cross-dress
and when i saw the picture
i vomiting my food

All Fiction
2012-05-22, 08:46
and when i saw the picture
i vomiting my food

INCONCEIVABLE! How can one vomit upon seeing such beauty?

Valky
2012-05-22, 08:50
INCONCEIVABLE! How can one vomit upon seeing such beauty?

You will, if you see something swaying/hanging down there.:heh:

/me still faithful to Restia.

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 08:51
All fiction
because i m so shock
i almost goes to "Yaoi Road"
i even said this when i saw the picture first time
"Wow new beuty"
but...........
thats kamito.......
after that i begin walk to yaoi Road and almost lose my self

Valky
Mee too!!!!
I still faith to Restia.
I just want Restia back to Kamito

Soji
2012-05-22, 08:56
Though if you don't know that this is Kamito you would never guess that she is a he.
http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/files/d000172/seireitsukai_7_cov.jpg
Though i do agree with Valky if you find out about the suprise down there...you would probally run for you life.:heh:

Ruki0089@ I think almost everyone want her back to Kamito. At least i want her back to Kamito.

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 09:01
Soji-Niisan
thats way i say
because of thats picture
i almost walk to Yaoi road.......
even just imagine it i get mixed feeling

and
Yeah,i really want to see what happen if restia back to Kamito

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-22, 09:11
Hahahahaha it is always a pleasure to hear you outburst comments Ruki. You have to admit this artist of this Novel is probably the first to make a man look really like a women. I seen other Manga and Novels with cross dress characters, but I can always tell they were males. I had to trouble figuring out this picture, so I gives my applause to the artist for successfully creating a real trap.

http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/files/d000172/seireitsukai_7_cov.jpg

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 09:14
hahahhahahahah
its been while
for outburst comments
thats trap...........
i admit it,reaper
this author and artist of illustration really amazing can troll us like this......

Soji
2012-05-22, 09:18
hahahhahahahah
its been while
for outburst comments
thats trap...........
i admit it,reaper
this author and artist of illustration really amazing can troll us like this......

Though,this trap keep really close to his chest someone in this picXD I mean look how he hold Restia in this pic.:p

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 09:21
Yeah!Yeah!Yeah!Yeah!Yeah!
I feel now......
Yeah!......
I feel it.....
Restia will....
no ........
Restia definetely goes To Kamito!!!!

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-22, 09:25
Speaking of Restia, I still can't believe how adorable she is. When I first read of what she said in vol 1 and 2 I expected she would look like an evil queen or something. Never expected she would look like this.
http://i47.tinypic.com/30bd405.png

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 09:28
Hm..........reaper
First love always have Number 1 face
i always expected she would look like a Beuty with Demon aura
and
look
how adorable she is

how many time i see that picture
i always feel piece and my strees has gone

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-22, 09:35
Doesn't it seem like when Claire is angry she is very beautiful. Not just her, but all the other girls as well. Well at least when they are not blushing so much.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/6/60/STnBD_V01_260.jpg/412px-STnBD_V01_260.jpg

Soji
2012-05-22, 09:35
I have to admit. Even I aspect something else at the start.Though,i have to admit i'm pretty curios to read this part traslate one day.
http://i47.tinypic.com/14waebq.jpg
The part where this happen. (Lucky some spoiler do say what happen after this).(i think).

Reaper@ Well It's not like that i don't get you point and i do agree. but when a girl blush there is a reason and you can deny that the blush can make girl more cute.
Also I alway like Est face in this pic ..and feel sorry for Kamito.

Ruki0089
2012-05-22, 09:37
Yeah!
im curiuos about it too
what!!!! spoiler
where i can get niisan

kfcpanda
2012-05-22, 09:38
not sure if anyone noticed my post but could you post me to those spoilers? or were those just the offhand 1-2 sentence ones? I've been dying for detailed spoilers to keep up with everybody but I can't seem to find those anywhere :(

Soji
2012-05-22, 09:39
kfcpanda@ Well ,all the spoiler that I know are from this topic. Most of them are in the early pag if i recall right.

Richocet
2012-05-22, 09:42
@kfcpanda, most of the spoilers are just a few sentences, not too much detailed summaries though sylphic is doing a summary for vol 6

kfcpanda
2012-05-22, 10:00
Ah I see now, thanks guys.
Boo though, guess I'll just have to wait for sylphic then.

PCheshire
2012-05-22, 12:41
here I have been telling you all along... that...
you'll all be walking to the dark side one way or another...
good to know Restia's still alive!!

Soji
2012-05-22, 12:56
PCheshire@ I read both High school dxd and Needless so i used to trap. Still Kamito just had to take a new lv his trap mode XD
And yeah it's good that Restia is still alive wonder if the last two title of this vol mean her come back. I get this feeling for some reason.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-22, 14:51
Wouldn't considered either of them trap Soji. I also read both and both of those seemly traps I figured out immediately. Dance Blade takes it to a whole new level, even my first perception of vol 7 cover was a new girl and by only contemplating with facts, logic, and among other things I figured it out it was Kamito. Dusk Witch must be the one to taught Kamito to cross dress, it fits her nature. Oh in vol 5 he does cross dress again, though we don't get any detailed information of how he looked like. Considering he bypass the guards of the temple, church, or whatever your religion says, means he must have looked a girl.

Soji
2012-05-22, 15:03
Reaper@ Yeah. I agree with you about that. Also about Kamito I get the feeling was Restia that time her or both her and Dusk Witch . Just a feeling I get that Restia had a hand in Kamito cross dress (can be wrong though).

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-22, 15:33
Wonder who came up with the idea to make him cross dress like a Miko? Though it suits him nevertheless, fooling all of us even myself. What he would like look in other clothing?

Soji
2012-05-22, 15:36
^ You know what would be funny? If when Restia is back we find out she have the hobby to cross dressing him lolCan you imagine the face of the harem?:heh:
But I do agree with what you say Reaper.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-22, 15:39
It is kind of funny of the whole harem twist. When one think of harems and the Male Lead not getting any action you think the Male lead is dense beyond any measure. In this Novel however it is the girls who are dense. No Matter how many times he dropped his cover, the girls has the suspicion then poof it goes away. Wouldn't take a Genius to figure out that Ren and Kamito are the same person.

Athena
2012-05-22, 16:36
Doesn't it seem like when Claire is angry she is very beautiful. Not just her, but all the other girls as well. Well at least when they are not blushing so much.
Well, must say that they have a wonderful smile. :heh:

Soji
2012-05-22, 16:37
KiRa08o2@ A devil like smile.:heh:

Reaper @ Yeah. It's kinda funny that this time around it's the harem to be dense and no the Mc.:heh:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-23, 16:31
Wow, just read the update on Baka-Tsuki and it is pretty hilarious. Oh yes, the translation would go faster if we vote on the system. The more votes, the more translation would come faster. It happened to Infinite Stratos. Alright back on topic, we got some back story of Fianna. It turns out she was just planning to use Kamito and wasn't interested in him at first. After Kamito saved her with his own body, it seems Fianna's original plan went out the window and she felled in love with him. Rubia Elstein, wow is a understatement. From Fianna description of her before Rubia stole the Laevatein, she was a kind girl. Wonder what happened?

Athena
2012-05-23, 16:37
Wow, just read the update on Baka-Tsuki and it is pretty hilarious. Oh yes, the translation would go faster if we vote on the system. The more votes, the more translation would come faster.
Doesn't really work like this, but it's a good indicator for fan interest.

All Fiction
2012-05-23, 18:04
Wonder who came up with the idea to make him cross dress like a Miko?

I guess it's Kamito himself. It's basic knowledge that Spirit Contractors are pure maidens, and since he is from the eastern continent, it's believable to cross-dress as a shrine maiden/miko in a Blade Dance tournament.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-23, 18:13
Makes sense, and it fits him pretty nice. Sure fooled us of believing he was a girl at first. He was 13 years old during the Blade Dance Tournament 3 years ago. Girls at that age don't often have breasts, so it wasn't too hard to make him look like a girl at that age. Though can you imagine this http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/4/41/STnBD_V03_067.jpg/418px-STnBD_V03_067.jpgwas this 3 years ago? http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/files/d000172/seireitsukai_7_cov.jpg

KuroiHikari
2012-05-23, 19:20
Wow, just read the update on Baka-Tsuki and it is pretty hilarious. Oh yes, the translation would go faster if we vote on the system. The more votes, the more translation would come faster.

It wouldn't, I think. The forum is like pretty barren if you ask me. I don't even notice the poll, ah... that's cuz I didn't vote.

Have the Chinese translators work on the chapters in the preview?

ZeKeR
2012-05-23, 22:14
Makes sense, and it fits him pretty nice. Sure fooled us of believing he was a girl at first. He was 13 years old during the Blade Dance Tournament 3 years ago. Girls at that age don't often have breasts, so it wasn't too hard to make him look like a girl at that age. Though can you imagine this http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/4/41/STnBD_V03_067.jpg/418px-STnBD_V03_067.jpgwas this 3 years ago? http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/files/d000172/seireitsukai_7_cov.jpg

lol.... Scarlet has the "oh no... not again" face...

XFire
2012-05-24, 01:35
Wow, just read the update on Baka-Tsuki and it is pretty hilarious. Oh yes, the translation would go faster if we vote on the system. The more votes, the more translation would come faster. It happened to Infinite Stratos. Alright back on topic, we got some back story of Fianna. It turns out she was just planning to use Kamito and wasn't interested in him at first. After Kamito saved her with his own body, it seems Fianna's original plan went out the window and she felled in love with him. Rubia Elstein, wow is a understatement. From Fianna description of her before Rubia stole the Laevatein, she was a kind girl. Wonder what happened?

My best guess for the Rubia question? The spirit king (who is an asshole by definition) planned to do something to Clair, her little sister. Therefore, Rubia made her whole family hated by all, so the spirit king wanted nothing to do with her.


Or she's an evil bitch. Either way.

Kleeyook
2012-05-24, 04:45
My best guess for the Rubia question? The spirit king (who is an asshole by definition) planned to do something to Clair, her little sister. Therefore, Rubia made her whole family hated by all, so the spirit king wanted nothing to do with her.


Or she's an evil bitch. Either way.

I assume it's the latter. She probably wants the spirit king dead for her own ego, not truly for the sake of everyone's happiness. Well, she should have some soft spot left for her lil sis, but that's all.

I suppose her plan is to manipulate Kamito to do the job while acting all superior. I hope he'll teach everyone their own place.

Soji
2012-05-24, 04:49
I assume it's the latter. She probably wants the spirit king dead for her own ego, not truly for the sake of everyone's happiness. Well, she should have some soft spot left for her lil sis, but that's all.

I suppose her plan is to manipulate Kamito to do the job while acting all superior. I hope he'll teach everyone their own place.

If I have to guess ...I think from the bad guy( hell more or less) the only two that want kamito good or do something fro him are. Restia that is in that state now,we know that she let the fake use her for some kind of plan. And the Yandere because....well she just like this.Though I'm pretty sure that we end to see Kamito kill /fight the 5 spirit king for a reason or another.
Still I do agree with you that kamito need to teach to everyone their own place.:p

Athena
2012-05-24, 04:53
Have the Chinese translators work on the chapters in the preview?
They'll probably wait till the entire volume is released to translate.
My best guess for the Rubia question? The spirit king (who is an asshole by definition) planned to do something to Clair, her little sister. Therefore, Rubia made her whole family hated by all, so the spirit king wanted nothing to do with her.


Or she's an evil bitch. Either way.
Evil she is, IMO. Hey, we have an antagonist here. I really hope that she'll stay as one.

All Fiction
2012-05-24, 05:21
One more day.

Tom Bombadil
2012-05-24, 06:44
Have the Chinese translators work on the chapters in the preview?

No, that is kind of strange, actually. I wonder if it was because they are walled off, and raws for the preview itself is too much a bother. I only give a glance of it, have you read the whole thing?

dragon1412
2012-05-24, 07:15
i do glance through a few pages, but isn't the preview about 30 pages, so about a chapter isn't it, sound like a bother to me

Kleeyook
2012-05-24, 08:03
This has been bugging me since the very first chapter of this LN, but both Hidan no Aria and ZnT as well as this LN have something about the main heroine that makes me so mad I wish I could slaughter them.

They call the MC their slaves...

To me, all good quality of a human being is reduced to zero when they still treat others like that nowadays (ZnT is a bit off but I'd like to pull Louise's spinal cord out if I were Saito). I cares none about the girls' circumstance if they're being such bitches.

Thus, my biggest dissatisfaction with these series is being presented with human slavery again in modern time, and it's for funny sake, seriously. Japanese men have become so submissive it's pathetic now. WTF ever happens to human right and equality? Where series with tsundere male heroes enslave girls a all declared hentai for perverts...

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 08:19
Kleeyook, you forgetting that everyone in the Academy is a Princess and they have never encounter a male so close to them before. Also they lack commonsense for the most part, aside from Ellse I don't think many of the Princesses in the Academy can cook. If all the girls get their information about men like Claire did then it is understandable why they act like this (I am talking about those Erotic Novels). Well considering Japanese porn artist are usually male and a lot of the porn degrades women as being nothing as tools of pleasure I say it is even.

Soji
2012-05-24, 08:21
Kleeyook@ It's not like i don't agree with you on the contrary I agree with you. But you forgot one thing..... Claire is not the main heroine from what I know. Plus from what i know we see less about her ...she just become like the other girls.

KuroiHikari
2012-05-24, 08:34
No, that is kind of strange, actually. I wonder if it was because they are walled off, and raws for the preview itself is too much a bother. I only give a glance of it, have you read the whole thing?
I haven't read it, I haven't even caught up with the story to read vol 7.

Kleeyook, I think the word slave is just her grabbing 1 derogatory term she knows. I mean Kamito did leave her a pretty nasty first impression. She pretty much only rages when she thinks Kamito is up to perverted stuff.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 08:44
Have to agree with KuroiHikari, she only acts and abuses Kamito when he does perverted things and not paying attention to her. She can act quite cute like a kitten if she gets what she wants.
"I...I meant just that. Kazehaya Kamito, I welcome you to my team. Because you defeated that military-use spirit, I have no objections about your ability."
Ellis rapidly said so and quickly averted her eyes, looking far away.
It seemed that in truth her intention was to scout Kamito.
With a sword thrust at the back of his neck, rather than being scouted, it was like he was being threatened.
Ellis' results were restrained by the upperclassmen and were top class. If Kamito joined this team, it was certain that the likelihood that he would obtain the entry qualifications to the blade dance would greatly increase.
However—
"Ellis, I—"
"No way, this is my contracted spirit after all!"
The one who interrupted Kamito's reply and shouted was Claire.
She stood up from the chair and tightly grabbed the sleeves of Kamito's uniform.
"Claire, you..."
Kamito turned around and looked down and his eyes met her clear ruby pupils.
Claire's eyes seemed to be swaying in anxiety.
It was likely that she was not aware of it, but she was staring with a clinging look.
I see, she's...
It was surely that being betrayed by her sister, Rubia, caused her heart to be deeply wounded.
Being abandon by someone – something like that, being frightening to her, could not be helped.
That was why she was always in solitude. She could not depend on anyone.
Because she was afraid of being betrayed again—
"..."
Kamito –
Took a sharp breath and scratched his head.
...Being shown such a face...
While bitterly smiling, he gently placed his hand on top of Claire's head.
He had decided on the reply from the beginning. She did not have to be worried.
"Ellis, sorry but I am her contracted spirit. I don't intend to change teams."
"...Kamito!?"
Claire, taken aback, raised her face and widened her eyes.
"...I see."
Ellis tightly bit her lips.
However, by the next moment, she had already returned to her cold expression.
"...I understand. I'm sorry for asking something unreasonable so suddenly."
"No, me too ... thank you for inviting me."
Kamito apologized and Ellis was a little bashful.
"I...it's alright. Y...you are such a guy, therefore, I—"
"Uh?"
Ellis seemed to have said something but her voice was so soft that he didn't catch it.
"Ahh, you've been rejected."
"It's alright, leader has us."
"Y...you guys... I...it's not like that!"
Ellis turned bright red and shouted at her two comrades, who were grinning and teasing her.
"H...hey, Kamito..."
"Hn?"
While still grabbing Kamito's uniform sleeve, she was bashfully saying something else.
"What's the matter?"
"...Th...thank...you."

Soji
2012-05-24, 09:14
Reaper.@ Be on mean this not make her better.You can try to get all the evidence or excuse but she still selfish girl.And need to grow up....also she think to own Kamito . So no ....sorry but even if I can agree that part was cute my opinion about her don't change. She need to become more mature to make my opinion on her change.

Richocet
2012-05-24, 09:33
Reaper.@ Be on mean this not make her better.You can try to get all the evidence or excuse but she still selfish girl.And need to grow up....also she think to own Kamito . So no ....sorry but even if I can agree that part was cute my opinion about her don't change. She need to become more mature to make my opinion on her change.

I agree with you. She's mainly acting all this way is becuz of her family issues (her sis), after she decided to leave and made Claire unable to trust ppl so easily. And the fact that she progresses so slowly over that, doesnt help her case much.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 11:37
Well she manages to become stronger on her own, but not to the class of the Dusk Witch and where Kamito was 3 years ago. Kamito stated himself that a Spirit Contractor of her age shouldn't be as powerful as she is. Emotionally she needs help and Kamito is doing a pretty good job.

dragon1412
2012-05-24, 11:49
This has been bugging me since the very first chapter of this LN, but both Hidan no Aria and ZnT as well as this LN have something about the main heroine that makes me so mad I wish I could slaughter them.

They call the MC their slaves...

To me, all good quality of a human being is reduced to zero when they still treat others like that nowadays (ZnT is a bit off but I'd like to pull Louise's spinal cord out if I were Saito). I cares none about the girls' circumstance if they're being such bitches.

Thus, my biggest dissatisfaction with these series is being presented with human slavery again in modern time, and it's for funny sake, seriously. Japanese men have become so submissive it's pathetic now. WTF ever happens to human right and equality? Where series with tsundere male heroes enslave girls a all declared hentai for perverts...

ok, we have arrived here again:heh:, to prevent future debate about this matter like a fews pages ago, Kleeyook, soji please hold your feelings a little, i understand how you feel about this but as KuroiHikari,Reaper, Ricochet said, Claire isn't nearly as bad as Aria or Louise, and for modern slavery and submissive japanese man, you think too much, the main cause for this type of tsundere is from the success of Toradora and Shakugan no Shana which lead to this type of heroine but most latter novel can't perform the same character development like these 2. And more importanly, like a lot of people said here(including me :D) Claire lose a lot of screen-time in the latter volumes to the point where everyone wonder if she is the heroine anymore and if you hate Claire that much, try reading the part where she saw Restia kiss Kamito, I guarantee that your fragile heart with be soothe.

Richocet
2012-05-24, 11:57
@Reaper I was talking more about her character development then her strength, which I admit is pretty huge for her age

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 11:58
Dragon1412, I wish to read that part, but no translation. Care for a link to direct me to, Baka-Tsuki is taking its sweet time.

Soji
2012-05-24, 12:00
Well she manages to become stronger on her own, but not to the class of the Dusk Witch and where Kamito was 3 years ago. Kamito stated himself that a Spirit Contractor of her age shouldn't be as powerful as she is. Emotionally she needs help and Kamito is doing a pretty good job.
And is the emotionally part that i want see she grow and become more mature. Also even if in vol 1 ,in the last part she do a good thing I don't like how she talk without know anything. Still ,i do say that that part was the only one that where i like her in all vol 1(more or less):p
ok, we have arrived here again:heh:, to prevent future debate about this matter like a fews pages ago, Kleeyook, soji please hold your feelings a little, i understand how you feel about this but as KuroiHikari,Reaper, Ricochet said, Claire isn't nearly as bad as Aria or Louise, and for modern slavery and submissive japanese man, you think too much, the main cause for this type of tsundere is from the success of Toradora and Shakugan no Shana which lead to this type of heroine but most latter novel can't perform the same character development like these 2. And more importanly, like a lot of people said here(including me :D) Claire lose a lot of screen-time in the latter volumes to the point where everyone wonder if she is the heroine anymore and if you hate Claire that much, try reading the part where she saw Restia kiss Kamito, I guarantee that your fragile heart with be soothe.
I know ,sorry. But i do say i want see her grow and mature. That's one of my hope because for now that is the feeling she give me(being a selfish girl. I use this one because i don't know what else use). If she change /grow i will one of the first to be happy about her change.
And i would like to read that part ( try reading the part where she saw Restia kiss Kamito) but i think this one it's not yet tralsate or I'm wrong? :heh:

dragon1412
2012-05-24, 12:07
well it's haven't been translate to english yet but i thinks the chinese ver already cover it

I know ,sorry. But i do say i want see her grow and mature. That's one of my hope because for now that is the feeling she give me(being a selfish girl. I use this one because i don't know what else use). If she change /grow i will one of the first to be happy about her change.
And i would like to read that part ( try reading the part where she saw Restia kiss Kamito) but i think this one it's not yet tralsate or I'm wrong? :heh:
we all do want to see her mature, my friends, but i actually more interest in how adorable Restia and Est is over Claire change.

Kleeyook
2012-05-24, 13:44
Well, Shana isn't that bad compared to the rest in how she treats her object of affection though.

And while Saito in ZnT is an unfaithful jerk, you'd definitely get tired and cheat on the girl who's so violent towards you on almost every occasions. Seriously, she punishes Saito badly whenever he looks at the other girls with delusional eyes while she blushes in front of Waldo, the blond hair pretty boy dragon rider and the overly handsome pope. It's so unjustified.

I think Toradora's case is cute too even though I cheer for Minori and I am really pissed Taiga won (as expected).

The thing is, while these tsundere have undergone character development, I can't see the point of choosing them when there are way better alternative who love you and treat you nicer from the beginning.

And seriously, I really hate it when someone inferior and haughty try to be tsundere. Kamito can totally slaughter the girls if he wish. Kinji in HSS mode is way stronger than Aria but his personality makes him has to put up with her attitude etc.

Richocet
2012-05-24, 14:42
vol 2 updated
Haha, you can easily bribe Claire with any info on breast enlargement:heh:

Soji
2012-05-24, 14:48
Kleeyook@ But Kamito it's not in love with claire so he don't like the other Mc.

Richocet@ Can you blame her?:p

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 14:54
Kamito's love interest is most likely Restia. Restia is quite possessive, Kamito stated during his time before at the Academy that Restia wouldn't even allow another female to come into arms reach. Oh and the Breast enlargement, I laughed at that one. It is the same in real life too, females are so sub conscious on their body. Even my girlfriend who has D cup thinks they are small. Claire, even though Princess, still is a normal girl at heart.

Soji
2012-05-24, 15:00
Reaper@ I agree about Restia(at least from what i know). The only one that had some chance is Est (but I don't really know what kamito feel toward her...he do treat her better that anyone else but Restia though).

Sylphic
2012-05-24, 21:25
I GOT IT!!!!!!!111111oneoneone

Restia is in. No dual wield yet, but she fights together with Kamito for just a little bit. PROGRESS!

I don't need to rip up my books.
W00t
https://twitter.com/necrophantasia/status/205846288858742786

Also comes with a bonus Est cover if you buy from Tora no Ana.

https://twitter.com/necrophantasia/status/205846397864521730

Sorry for the twitter links. I only have my iPhone with me right now.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 21:36
Thanks for the update on vol 7, though I thought it was a Flash Back volume so isn't it natural for Restia and Kamito to fight together. If it is in the present story line than vol 7 is a mixture of both Flash Back and Present right?

zerodragon
2012-05-24, 21:36
pics up ASAP, i must know!

PCheshire
2012-05-24, 21:37
thanks a lot!!
Est is an S&M Queen?!

Sylphic
2012-05-24, 21:39
I'm reading now. I'll update with crappy iPhone pics as I go along I guess.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 21:47
Whoa, no need to rush Sylphic. Let the information sink in first and then inform us. What is the point of buying a Novel without enjoying yourself first, inform us everything when you read everything and grasp every detail. We can wait, for a day or so, a week would be pushing it for these devoted fans.

All Fiction
2012-05-24, 21:50
Thanks, Sylphic. Ah man, So the wrap-around jacket band doesn't announce an anime adaptation, huh?

But HOT DAMN THAT EST PIC. Sylphic, do you have a scanner by any chance?

Sylphic
2012-05-24, 21:50
Haha I guess.

But the book is dropping bombs all over the place.

17 pages in. Claire's sister, motivation, and current identity are completely explained.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-24, 21:58
Right, that is why I said to take your time for the information to sink in. Then you can inform us, would be hard if you are typing and looking at your book at every post. Thanks for the preview though, looking forward for something in the morning over here in Miami it is pitch black so I am off.

Richocet
2012-05-25, 00:43
Oh my god Sylphic:hyper-^v^:
Those pics totally made my day, just read and enjoy then share with us plz:bow::bow

XFire
2012-05-25, 00:46
lol, Est looked a little confused in that picture. Did the Principal set that up?

Soji
2012-05-25, 00:48
I GOT IT!!!!!!!111111oneoneone

Restia is in. No dual wield yet, but she fights together with Kamito for just a little bit. PROGRESS!

I don't need to rip up my books.
W00t
https://twitter.com/necrophantasia/status/205846288858742786

Also comes with a bonus Est cover if you buy from Tora no Ana.

https://twitter.com/necrophantasia/status/205846397864521730

Sorry for the twitter links. I only have my iPhone with me right now.
Thanks for the info and pic. Wait not this mean that Restia is back with him now? I mean she is part of the group now and with Kamito or she just help ?Just curios. though this is a good news for sure. And lol at the pic about Est.

dragon1412
2012-05-25, 02:04
I GOT IT!!!!!!!111111oneoneone

Restia is in. No dual wield yet, but she fights together with Kamito for just a little bit. PROGRESS!

I don't need to rip up my books.
W00t
https://twitter.com/necrophantasia/status/205846288858742786

Also comes with a bonus Est cover if you buy from Tora no Ana.

https://twitter.com/necrophantasia/status/205846397864521730

Sorry for the twitter links. I only have my iPhone with me right now.

Tora no Ana !Restia! OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I knew that waitting for 1 mores days is worth it sniff...sniff

Tom Bombadil
2012-05-25, 03:53
lol, Est looked a little confused in that picture. Did the Principal set that up?

Nahh,


Based on the preview, it was caused by one of Claire's books, and the clothes belongs to Fiana. It is one of her "ritual" clothes.

Sylphic
2012-05-25, 04:09
She got inspiration from Claire's bedside reading and tools from Fiana's suspicious stash.

Riki
2012-05-25, 04:12
......Est gotta stay away from those stuff.....the other girls are gonna lose at this rate. well glad to hear restia is still hanging around.

iBeScared
2012-05-25, 06:13
So is Restia Back with Kamito?

Ruki0089
2012-05-25, 07:34
Say, i want know about Fake ren ansbell look
Does like this one?
http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/files/d000172/seireitsukai_7_cov.jpg
if im right than i feel that i was saved from dangerus zone

Riki
2012-05-25, 07:45
Say, i want know about Fake ren ansbell look
Does like this one?
http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/files/d000172/seireitsukai_7_cov.jpg
if im right than i feel that i was saved from dangerus zone

someone said the fake has red eyes but look the same as the real......quite funny to think after 3 years the fake is still flat-chest.

Ruki0089
2012-05-25, 07:47
Uooooooooooo
i was saved from dangerus zone !!!!
i almost gone to that "way"
Fuh.......that was close........

cant wait for translate

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 09:24
Ruki0089, you are still in the Danger Zone. I am convince that is Kamito 3 years ago, that hand with the seal is the same place where Restia seal was. Judging from the color, it is an element of Darkness and the eyes appear brown. I hear it is bright red. Though I am not sure unless someone has proof that is the fake Ren.

Soji
2012-05-25, 09:30
Reaper@ The seal never disappeared. In the pic was a mistake from them ,but the seal was always there. And I thought we alredy agree that is Kamito 3 year ago that one.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 09:54
I already know the seal is there, Kamito just covered it up because it haunts him. I say it is Kamito 3 years ago. Right now I am waiting for Sylphic to make a summary of vol 7.

Soji
2012-05-25, 09:57
^ I thought you say like this because the pic in vol 6. The hand where the seal is,they draw that hand without Seal. So i thought you mean that when you say* where the seal was*.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 10:00
Haven't seen the pictures on vol 6, Baka-Tsuki don't even have those up. Though the translations are coming along now so I am happy a bit. Would be even happier if they could move at the same speed as Nom@n.

Soji
2012-05-25, 10:10
Look in this spoiler Reaper. This is the pic I was talking about.http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq83/sabata1412/IMG_1773.png
this one ... sob..sob

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 10:23
Thanks for the picture, my intuition tells me Restia just cancelled the contract with Kamito to form a new one.

Soji
2012-05-25, 10:26
Reaper@ That was a mistake from who draw the pic. The seal never disappeared.This was clear up few pag ago.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 10:32
The illustration are quite deceptive, I expected Restia to appear as the same age as Kamito. Base on the photo she appear smaller in height by Kamito greatly, I say same size of Est. It makes you wonder since Est has a weakness for feet, maybe Restia has a sort of fetish as well. Thanks for the update Soji, where did you get that photo from?

Soji
2012-05-25, 10:41
^ In this topic. Also If you read the other post we already know that Restia reappear this vol.Sylphic say this and Restia even fight togheter with Kamito . So we really see the stronger Dance blade back. At least for a little. Also we find about Claire sister and her true reason or something like this. If I understand right,the only thing I wonder is If Restia is back for good with Kamito or not.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 10:44
I already got that, Sylphic will tells us all the details once he read everything. I am really interested in all of that. Though I lament I am far behind everyone since I haven't read or know the details of the rest of vol 2, everything on 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Richocet
2012-05-25, 11:09
Most of us here don't know about the details of the other vol or even summaries for that matter. We just know small snippets which others have cared to share

dragon1412
2012-05-25, 11:38
well i have to wait 1 more day for my copy to arrived so i can't join the disscussion until then

Sylphic
2012-05-25, 18:56
Nope she's not.

Ok. Just finished reading.

That was quite a ride, but I rate book 6 more highly.

How spoilery do you guys want me to be.

As I expected, the rankings in book 6 had Restia in 4th place, but after volume 6 Restia is now tied for first with Est.

dragon1412
2012-05-25, 19:39
Yay! i knew that she will take the lead role. Now you are making can't wait anyome for my copy to arrived

Athena
2012-05-25, 19:42
^ In this topic. Also If you read the other post we already know that Restia reappear this vol.Sylphic say this and Restia even fight togheter with Kamito . So we really see the stronger Dance blade back. At least for a little. Also we find about Claire sister and her true reason or something like this. If I understand right,the only thing I wonder is If Restia is back for good with Kamito or not.

Dang, wanted more drama. Oh well, not complaining. :D

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 19:46
Well Sylphic, you can start out with the most important events, characters' action and interaction, and the back Story on Claire's sister.

n0m@n
2012-05-25, 19:56
Can you also tell us about the result of the Blade Dance?
Like which four team remained. And has the Blade Dance second round have started?

Sylphic
2012-05-25, 21:08
The blade dance is not over. Still I think 3 days to go.
But only about half of the teams are left.

Team inferno and team Sushin are probably the teams with the most stones.

The story begins with a flashback. The fire king was angered inexplicably and the mikos were working hard to appease him. A priestess dances for 3 days and 3 nights without resting while the mikos helping her taking shifts. They manage to stop the king, but not before he turns the people's livelihood, houses, and lives into ashes. But, the people are very grateful and not a single person blames the priestesses. But she asks why does he do this? The other mikos rudely cut her off telling her it's not her job to question the fire king but to serve him.

Coming back to the future, the priestess clutches her pendant as she remembers this. She didn't think she'd see the girl in her pendant again. A girl with bright red hair and fiery eyes.

Wow I suck at actually summarizing things.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 21:20
Why do I get the feeling that the Spirit Kings are going to be the final enemy? Even if you are the almighty lord of your element doesn't give you the right to ruin the lives of people serving under you. I think Claire's sister isn't really a bad girl, I think she is standing up for the humans due to the abuse of the Spirit Lords. I think in her heart Claire sister is trying to do this alone without dragging anyone she cared with her. Make sense, why did she suddenly turn her back towards the people she loved, maybe she wasn't but was trying to protect them. Common scenario is like Golden Sun, one of the main characters appear to be evil yet at the end was trying to protect the people he loves. Sylphic if I am wrong, you and everyone in here can ridicule me. This is just my hypothesis.

dragon1412
2012-05-25, 21:26
Why do I get the feeling that the Spirit Kings are going to be the final enemy? Even if you are the almighty lord of your element doesn't give you the right to ruin the lives of people serving under you. I think Claire's sister isn't really a bad girl, I think she is standing up for the humans due to the abuse of the Spirit Lords. I think in her heart Claire sister is trying to do this alone without dragging anyone she cared with her. Make sense, why did she suddenly turn her back towards the people she loved, maybe she wasn't but was trying to protect them. Common scenario is like Golden Sun, one of the main characters appear to be evil yet at the end was trying to protect the people he loves. Sylphic if I am wrong, you and everyone in here can ridicule me. This is just my hypothesis.

well thats a possibility, but sound too much like itachi :heh:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 21:33
Who is Itachi? Anyway, that is what I picked up on the evidence, foreshadowing, and character interaction in the Novel. I am usually good at picking these things up and formulating guesses.

Log
2012-05-25, 21:35
Who is Itachi? Anyway, that is what I picked up on the evidence, foreshadowing, and character interaction in the Novel. I am usually good at picking these things up and formulating guesses.

You never heard of Naruto............................................ ... Are you joking?

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-25, 21:38
Oh I have, just didn't remember. I know several Itachi from many other Novels, manga, and anime. There is even a guy name Itachi in my Business class I am taking over the summer in College.

XFire
2012-05-25, 22:17
Why do I get the feeling that the Spirit Kings are going to be the final enemy? Even if you are the almighty lord of your element doesn't give you the right to ruin the lives of people serving under you. I think Claire's sister isn't really a bad girl, I think she is standing up for the humans due to the abuse of the Spirit Lords. I think in her heart Claire sister is trying to do this alone without dragging anyone she cared with her. Make sense, why did she suddenly turn her back towards the people she loved, maybe she wasn't but was trying to protect them. Common scenario is like Golden Sun, one of the main characters appear to be evil yet at the end was trying to protect the people he loves. Sylphic if I am wrong, you and everyone in here can ridicule me. This is just my hypothesis.

Wait, this is actually in question? From what little I've read and the spoilers I've seen, I thought it was obvious the spirit kings were going to be antagonist. They are the common link between the two Ren Ashbells, and if I had to guess, I'd say that Clair's sister is trying to bring Kamito into the fight against them.

Here's my theory at the moment (only read one and a half volumes, so like Reaper, fell free to criticize)

First, we know Kamito and Restia tried and failed to kill the spirit kings. Maybe because it was five on two, maybe the kings are just that badass.

Two, Clair's sister rebelled against the king she served. But even though she stole a spirit, she didn't do anything afterward.

My guess is that Rubia tried and failed to beat a king, and was so outmatched she wasn't even a threat. So she goes looking for two things. A spirit stronger than Leavetain (a reincarnated dark spirit king, perhaps?) and the only blade dancer she knows who is stronger than her: Ren Ashbell.

Obviously, she found Restia somehow, but Kamito was gone. So she posed as Ren to lure him out.

So, does that sound plausible?

Richocet
2012-05-25, 22:46
@Xfire Hmm that does sound plausible to me, though I to have only read about as much as you

@Sylphic when does Restia come back to Kamito?

iBeScared
2012-05-26, 00:22
Wait, this is actually in question? From what little I've read and the spoilers I've seen, I thought it was obvious the spirit kings were going to be antagonist. They are the common link between the two Ren Ashbells, and if I had to guess, I'd say that Clair's sister is trying to bring Kamito into the fight against them.

Here's my theory at the moment (only read one and a half volumes, so like Reaper, fell free to criticize)

First, we know Kamito and Restia tried and failed to kill the spirit kings. Maybe because it was five on two, maybe the kings are just that badass.

Two, Clair's sister rebelled against the king she served. But even though she stole a spirit, she didn't do anything afterward.

My guess is that Rubia tried and failed to beat a king, and was so outmatched she wasn't even a threat. So she goes looking for two things. A spirit stronger than Leavetain (a reincarnated dark spirit king, perhaps?) and the only blade dancer she knows who is stronger than her: Ren Ashbell.

Obviously, she found Restia somehow, but Kamito was gone. So she posed as Ren to lure him out.

So, does that sound plausible?

Wait she posed as Ren? Is that what you guys mean by 2 ren ashbels?

Ruki0089
2012-05-26, 01:13
Sylphic
so what happen to Restia and Kamito after they fight together on vol 7?

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 01:32
Sylphic
so what happen to Restia and Kamito after they fight together on vol 7?

Unfortunately nothing. She kisses him good bye, tells them they are still enemies, gets into a small interaction with Est, and leaves saying she will see him in the finals.

Ruki0089
2012-05-26, 01:35
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i mean
why?
they fight together but....

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 01:40
Call me an optimist, but I see this as progress.

First time, they haven't tried to kill each other since the beginning.

Ruki0089
2012-05-26, 01:50
Yeah they haven't tried to kill each other since the beginning
This restia and kamito relationship progress to back to normal
I mean Kamito trial

Soji
2012-05-26, 01:57
Call me an optimist, but I see this as progress.

First time, they haven't tried to kill each other since the beginning.

Is still good. I suppose that Kamito had to wait the end of the blade dance to try and gain her back.:heh:
Afterall, like everyone here I'm pretty sure that Kamito will have to fight the Spirit king and he will need Restia as well for this.

Ruki0089
2012-05-26, 01:59
Yeah, he need restia to beat the Spirit king.
and i heard restia and kamito wish is to kill the Spirit king....
but why?

Soji
2012-05-26, 02:10
Ruki0089@Other that they seem to be Selfish jerk?(the spirit king).
Well that was Restia wish (that Kamito kill them)...still there is the theory.
That Kamito and the first demon king are Reincarnation of the 6°Spirit king (the Dark one) that was killed by the other 5(yeah they team up to kill him) and Restia was one fo the spirit of the 6°.So there is some revenge afterall seem that the 6 one want take revenge again them(i think). Anyway ...long story short there is more than we know.

Ruki0089
2012-05-26, 02:13
What the.....
So thats way.....
Huh......i wish i can understand japanes

All Fiction
2012-05-26, 02:17
Unfortunately nothing. She kisses him good bye, tells them they are still enemies, gets into a small interaction with Est, and leaves saying she will see him in the finals.

Wait, who is her wielder?

Soji
2012-05-26, 02:28
All Fiction@ Probally fake Ren.AfterAll Restia have her own aim and that aim had something to do with Kamito(then again the same seem to be for fake Ren. She as well seem to aim something and Kamito it's need it for this).

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 02:28
No one. She is registered as a member of team inferno not a combat spirit.

It'll make sense once I get my summary underway.

All Fiction
2012-05-26, 02:33
So, the spirit that Kamito has been desperately searching for is currently the partner of the person that Claire has been desperately looking for.

Interesting.

EDIT: Ah, I replied too late. So, she's a participant instead of being the contracted spirit of a participant. Hella strong, that girl.

dragon1412
2012-05-26, 03:46
So, the spirit that Kamito has been desperately searching for is currently the partner of the person that Claire has been desperately looking for.

Interesting.

EDIT: Ah, I replied too late. So, she's a participant instead of being the contracted spirit of a participant. Hella strong, that girl.

is it really that suprising? i mean , Est can use her power over sword without Kamito consent ( even you guys who only read english translation have read through this in vol1) and goes attack others on her own before Kamito meet her. Talking about vol 1, Rinslet wolf can also attack Kamito in its wolf form and the military spirit can attack without master too and most wild spirit can work on their own too.
P.S: I got my copy now, currently reading, thanks you Nisemonogatari.

All Fiction
2012-05-26, 03:57
AH, DAMN!

HOW CAN I FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION?

Sylphic, how many Ren Ashbell illustrations are there?

@GEMC
2012-05-26, 04:33
Sylphic did the claire and others learn his identity as ren ashbell in vol 7

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 05:12
Would you be sad if I said 0? Other than the cover?

Nope. They don't figure it out. They can't get over the gender thing. They can't handle that their idol may have had a penis.

Soji
2012-05-26, 05:16
Would you be sad if I said 0? Other than the cover?

Nope. They don't figure it out. They can't get over the gender thing. They can't handle that their idol may have had a penis.

So correct me if i'm wrong here. Kamito and Restia fight togheter (and i suppose she was in her sword mode). The girls see Kamito fight with a black sword like the one Ren had that time . He show them his dance with Restia in blade mode and the girls still can't figure this out:twitch:Come on i understnad the *gender thing* but this is beyond being dense. :heh:

KuroiHikari
2012-05-26, 05:25
I need to get reading and catch up.

@Sylphic, just a minor English thing for you to note, your sentence is implying their idol doesn't have one anymore. haha

@Soji, the gender barrier is quite hard to pass through, it's just more logical to pass it off as some coincidence than to say a girl is a boy.

All Fiction
2012-05-26, 08:41
would you be sad if i said 0? Other than the cover
バカなあああああああああああッ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 08:47
So summary:

Claire's sister Rubia reveals that she is in fact the imposter Ren Ashbell and that her new goal is to find the SIXTH priestess to serve the successor of dark spirit king. Of which Claire and Fianna are the leading candidates to become the holy priestess of darkness.

Chapter 1:
The group decides to rest up for a day after that scuffle with Nepentus Roa. Kamito finds Est in his bed in a bondage outfit. Upon which she starts whipping him sayin, "are you happy? Are you happy?". Turns out she got the idea from Claire's bedside reading, where a princess gets her naked bottom spanked by her butler. And she got the kit from Fianna's stash of suspicious things which included the animal costumes last time. He gets discovered by Claire and Fiana and Fianna admits that she would gladly join in if he only asked.

Claire's group gets a declaration of war from Sushin, another participating group. They decide to accept deeming a declination to be too shameful. But Fianna has wandered off. So they go out to find her to get a consensus.

Chapter 2:

Claire and Kamito go searching. Claire starts questioning Kamito about why he was able to use Ren Ashbells techniques. He comes up with some stupid excuse to brush it off but it doesn't work and she is even more suspicious. She has nothing to go on but her intuition tells her that Kamito and Ren Ashbell are related or the same person. Ths is because she is sure the current Ren is an imposter. Fianna interrupts saying of course that one is real, because Kamito is the real one. She promptly points out that Kamito has a penis and Ren does not. Therefore, they cant be the same. (ok maybe she said man instead of penis, but same thing).

She drags Kamito off in the confusion to her secret treehouse. She undresses into her bondage outfit and tells Kanito she gets it. He doesn't like being hit, he likes to spank his girls. And that she's open to what he wants. But too bad Kamitotalks hs way out of it leaving Fiana embarrassed. She tells him that te secret treehouse is really for her to practice in secret. She's trying to get her spirit to manifest itself as a an elemental waffe (is tat the romanization?)

Claire's waiting for them all alone and continues wondering about the Ren Ashbell problem. Eli's drops by and tells Claire that she has a plan to figure it out once and for all.

Jump over to the Sushin camp. The 4 fighters plus their royal princess. Turns out the princess has declared without consulting them because she wants to enforce justice. She feels it's her duty to evil, lecherous, and enemy of women, Kazehaya Kamito. Apparently, Kamito tricks pure maidens into depravity with his words, makes his girls sleep with him naked, or EVEN WORSE sleep with only knee socks on. And he rapes all the girls he defeats. The team quickly agrees to the fight.

Soji
2012-05-26, 08:52
Sylphic@ Thank you.... so Restia try to make Kamito awake in his true power(like she ask him in vol 6). While Rubia try to find /chose holy priestess of darkness. So in the end we was right? Is all about him .:heh:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 08:52
Sorry All Fiction can read Kanji. So far we gotten progress between Restia and Kamito, though Restia is an enemy for whatever reason. Maybe Restia will return when Kamito gains all his skills back, so far it is 80 percent.

Soji
2012-05-26, 08:54
Reaper@ I think people here misunderstand the whole Enemy thing. Maybe i'm wrong but I think she mean enemy because she is from the other team. Is normal that she is a enemy until the blade dance don't end.

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 08:57
Kamito gets almost everything back by the end of this volume.

Well Rubia and everyone in her crew believe Kamito is the successor. They only differ in their methods. Restia is the impatient one with that failed ruckus in volume 6. Rubia is trying to find a priestess for Kamito.

Kamito and harem have no clue what is really going on. They're still trying to win the competition, when team inferno isn't even trying to win. Winning was never their goal.

No misunderstanding about enemy. Restia has been an enemy every book except this one. She's been directly responsible for every problem except 1 i think. Restia is definitely not a friend.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 09:04
Does Kamito know their intentions to make him the next Spirit Lord of the Element of Darkness? So Kamito gotten most of his skills back, but not fully. I think Kamito needs to get his skills back and learn some new ones. No doubt ever since 3 years, it is a long time to study and analyze Kamito's weakness back then if he had one. I still can't believe the harem cannot figure out Kamito is the original Ashbell, what does Kamito got to do dress back up into his Miko outfit? Pretty sure he would look the same as he was 3 years ago, though he may taller and may need breasts implants to fit the age.

Soji
2012-05-26, 09:08
Kamito gets almost everything back by the end of this volume.

Well Rubia and everyone in her crew believe Kamito is the successor. They only differ in their methods. Restia is the impatient one with that failed ruckus in volume 6. Rubia is trying to find a priestess for Kamito.

Kamito and harem have no clue what is really going on. They're still trying to win the competition, when team inferno isn't even trying to win. Winning was never their goal.

No misunderstanding about enemy. Restia has been an enemy every book except this one. She's been directly responsible for every problem except 1 i think. Restia is definitely not a friend.

I thought like this because she do help him this time. Also i can think (after what you and other say in spoiler) Claire sister and Restia true enemy. Though ,make me wonder what really mean for kamito become what they want.The only think that come to my mind is that the other 5 spirit king will be no happy about this.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 09:14
The one thing that is a mystery is why the Spirit Lords decided to kill their own? I am not believing the rumors for one second that the Spirit Lord of Darkness was a womanizer and all that sort of thing. It seems like the people were just covering up what the Spirit Lords did so the people wouldn't hate them or doubt. It goes by history, the victorious writes history while the one defeated don't get their history written.

@GEMC
2012-05-26, 09:14
Is there any detail of what attitude does the Dark Spirit King have or how the dark spirit king died?

Soji
2012-05-26, 09:20
Reaper @ My theory on that is that the Dark spirit king was the only one good. And for this reason the other one kill him because was a problem for them. And after that they just say their own story. (like you say).

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 09:25
We already saw when things don't go the Spirit Lords way they throw a tantrum. Maybe the the Dark Spirit Lord was doing something that none of the other want which is to let humans and spirits coexist. Meaning no serving the spirit lord and complete co existence, it is something that a Lord doesn't want. Go in history and you can tell that any Monarch, King, Lord, Bishop, or whatever in history and they all had servants.

Soji
2012-05-26, 09:28
Yeah. That's why I think this is the most possible to happen. Otherwise why kill one of their own? No to mention that they had to attack him togheter to take him down. (at least from what i know).

@GEMC
2012-05-26, 09:28
The thing I possibly believe is that the Dark King is definitely a womanizer and greatly different in other Spirit kings oh wait maybe the reason is the Kamito is the successor of Dark Spirit King is because he is a man.... well this a theory of mine only

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 09:33
So does that mean even the spirits are all female, possibly not though it isn't clear. I really want to keep reading this Novel and all its contents. Hopefully Sylphic will have the whole summary done soon, lets not rush him and let him work his magic.

Riki
2012-05-26, 10:00
So does that mean even the spirits are all female, possibly not though it isn't clear. I really want to keep reading this Novel and all its contents. Hopefully Sylphic will have the whole summary done soon, lets not rush him and let him work his magic.

not farfetched since the spirits we've seen in human form are only female.

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 10:25
Chapter 3:
It's night and Elis's and Kamito are on watch. They remark that something is very wrong with the current blade dance. Too many teams were eliminated too early leading to everyone hiding inside their bases and afraid to come out, Nepentus Roa being allowed to enter despite not being a human, Restia being allowed to enter as a member of team inferno despite being a contract spirit are just a few examples.

In the.mean time, Ellis creates an opportunity to sneak up to Kamito by saying she is cold, but a wild fire spirit comes to save the day. Ellis proceeds to interview Kamito. Do you like marshmallows? What part of your body do you wash first? Do you like girls with big boobs? Kamito doesn't answer the last one, and Ellis moves in for the kiss. Too bad! The fire spirit explodes! Turns out its Claire's familiar and she breaks it up.

In the mean time, Fianna is busy practicing with Georgius to get him to manifest as a weapon. She is flustered and rushing because she is tired of being protected and holding people back. Most importantly she wants to stand by Kamito's side in combat like the rest of the harem. Of course, it's not so easy. Only top class spirit users can do so and only after years of practice. The chapter ends with Fianna still trying throughout the night before they are due to fight Sushin.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 11:17
Nepentus Roa, what is it then if it isn't human? I am happy Ellis is now taking the incentive to raise her relationship with Kamito. Though I think she could have been more subtle, but I am more surprise Kamito answered the second question. Ellis favorite dessert or sweet is Marshmallows, interesting I thought it would be a Parfait like typical girls would. Ellis was so close, though she already kissed him from the spoilers I believe. Georgius is a Holy element I believe right?

Riki
2012-05-26, 11:24
Nepentus Roa, what is it then if it isn't human? I am happy Ellis is now taking the incentive to raise her relationship with Kamito. Though I think she could have been more subtle, but I am more surprise Kamito answered the second question. Ellis favorite dessert or sweet is Marshmallows, interesting I thought it would be a Parfait like typical girls would. Ellis was so close, though she already kissed him from the spoilers I believe. Georgius is a Holy element I believe right?

elis nvr kissed him only claire,restia and est. and yes St. george is a holy spirit:cool:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 11:34
Ellis never kissed Kamito, the spoilers are wrong then. Hold up, he kissed another Spirit and its name is St. George which is Fianna's Spirit. Hope St. George was a female, when I hear St. George I hear the legendary Dragon Slayer comes to mind.

Athena
2012-05-26, 12:37
Reaper @ My theory on that is that the Dark spirit king was the only one good. And for this reason the other one kill him because was a problem for them. And after that they just say their own story. (like you say).

Mine is that the other ones killed that Dark spirit king because the latter violated a taboo or something. Such as having a child with a human, etc...

Soji
2012-05-26, 12:45
KiRa08o2 @ I can see this happening as well. But I had this feeling that he was the only good one or not like them.

Athena
2012-05-26, 12:49
KiRa08o2 @ I can see this happening as well. But I had this feeling that he was the only good one or not like them.

I'd see the second one as a greater possibility. IMO, I don't really think that the other spirits are evil, just that they don't really do good things, meaning they're more or less neutral.

All Fiction
2012-05-26, 12:53
Such as having a child with a human, etc...
And that child could be Solomon. Plausible.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 12:54
Another thing is the Spirit Lords have a large amount of devoted servants and prefer to keep humans to serve them. The Dark Spirit Lord may have propose to set the humans free, no doubt the other Lords would disagree to a large extent. So far we gotten 3 chapters and gotten some good information. It seems that not everyone is like the harem, the Sushin believed in the story that the Dark Spirit Lord was a womanizer and since Kamito is a male they would obviously put those stories on him. Really you can only judge someone if you have met him or has facts concerning him, never heard on discrimination on sex type. Scratch that I have heard it before, in several civilizations.

Richocet
2012-05-26, 17:24
This is AWESOME
Thanks a lot Sylpic, man is Claire such a mood killer, and the Sushiun are hilarious believing these things. But what I wanna know is their belief presented to us as humorous or dead serious??

EDIT: Just read the update at BT, man that is hilarious stuff with Claire lol
Her imagination really is corrupted due to those lewd books:heh:
And man, did I forget about Carol:heh:

Sylphic
2012-05-26, 19:07
They are dead serious lol. Apparently Kamito makes girl's pregnant just by looking at them too!

His reputation couldn't possibly be worse.

Also given the theories, I'm more than willing to be the one where The Dark Spirit king is the only good one is the right one. This series isn't exactly the most original one out there. So I'm sure they'll follow this cliche.

Xacual
2012-05-26, 19:26
The stuff about a 6th spirit king, and the demon lord and all that stuff makes me think of this manga. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11248

Basically in it, this group of Gods take over this world but one of their number eventually goes against the others and sides with the inhabitants of the world instead. The rest of the Gods eventually win and brand him as evil basically the Devil. Now in the current time he's a reviled villain and he hides his identity for the most part and the Gods use him as basically a scapegoat for any of the evil deeds they themselves commit.

Anyway yeah, this sounds like it could be how stuff happened here. The question then I have is, will Terminus Est interfere more later since she's obviously one of the strongest holy spirits and I doubt she'd want Est to be the sword of the Dark Spirit King.

n0m@n
2012-05-26, 20:50
Thanks for the answer and summaries Sylphic.
Like I thought, the current Ren is Claire's sister.
Poor Kamito is still hated by the girls from other teams for being a raspiest(which he isnt).
I totally wished the kiss between him and Ellis happened.......

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-26, 21:01
Nom@n he is beyond the reputation of a rapist, they believe Kamito can make a women pregnant by his gaze alone. Really feel sorry for Kamito, he hasn't laid his hands on women in any inappropriate manner, well at least not intentionally. It is the girls who have done so. Oh Xacual, the Manga Crimson Grave is a pretty interesting Manga thanks.

Tom Bombadil
2012-05-27, 04:38
Credit goes to the uploader at Baidu.

A better version of the image uploaded by Sylphic before.

http://forums.animesuki.com/picture.php?albumid=1777&pictureid=45165

In case anyone asks, sadly I don't have a larger version.

dragon1412
2012-05-27, 04:48
Credit goes to the uploader at Baidu.

A better version of the image uploaded by Sylphic before.

http://forums.animesuki.com/picture.php?albumid=1777&pictureid=45165

In case anyone asks, sadly I don't have a larger version.

ah ... blood loss..someone....please give ....me.... transfusion.
The stuff about a 6th spirit king, and the demon lord and all that stuff makes me think of this manga. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11248

Basically in it, this group of Gods take over this world but one of their number eventually goes against the others and sides with the inhabitants of the world instead. The rest of the Gods eventually win and brand him as evil basically the Devil. Now in the current time he's a reviled villain and he hides his identity for the most part and the Gods use him as basically a scapegoat for any of the evil deeds they themselves commit.

Anyway yeah, this sounds like it could be how stuff happened here. The question then I have is, will Terminus Est interfere more later since she's obviously one of the strongest holy spirits and I doubt she'd want Est to be the sword of the Dark Spirit King.

Just read through vol 7, to be honest, when you guys have the child of Dark spirit king is Solomon, i personally think both theory is quite possible, but i have doubbt now that the Blade dance is created for the spirit kings and the rules change depend on them so why is the current one, as Sylphic said before, have many character which can be considered illegal, is it possible that the spirit king themselves allowed them to enter.

Riki
2012-05-27, 04:49
Credit goes to the uploader at Baidu.

A better version of the image uploaded by Sylphic before.

http://forums.animesuki.com/picture.php?albumid=1777&pictureid=45165

In case anyone asks, sadly I don't have a larger version.

......wait how come the size fits est prefectly when...i..t bel.ongs.....to ...fia..na.....*faints*

All Fiction
2012-05-27, 07:01
http://forums.animesuki.com/picture.php?albumid=1777&pictureid=45165

The sole proof that Terminus Est in Japanese fiction is a much better sword than the original Terminus Est from Western fiction.

Tom Bombadil
2012-05-27, 07:09
Link to scans of vol 6 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1434895070)

Unfortunately, the vol7 ones are yet to be found. Anyway, could someone help uploading these to Baka-Tsuki? They don't have vol 6 images yet.

I don't think we'll get Chinese translations soon this time. The translator is going to take the national college entrance exam soon. Good luck to him/her.

All Fiction
2012-05-27, 08:19
Link to scans of vol 6 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1434895070)

Unfortunately, the vol7 ones are yet to be found. Anyway, could someone help uploading these to Baka-Tsuki? They don't have vol 6 images yet.

I don't think we'll get Chinese translations soon this time. The translator is going to take the national college entrance exam soon. Good luck to him/her.

Thanks for the link. Oh, and good luck on your exam, KuroiHikari!

Soji
2012-05-27, 08:21
The stuff about a 6th spirit king, and the demon lord and all that stuff makes me think of this manga. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11248

Basically in it, this group of Gods take over this world but one of their number eventually goes against the others and sides with the inhabitants of the world instead. The rest of the Gods eventually win and brand him as evil basically the Devil. Now in the current time he's a reviled villain and he hides his identity for the most part and the Gods use him as basically a scapegoat for any of the evil deeds they themselves commit.

Anyway yeah, this sounds like it could be how stuff happened here. The question then I have is, will Terminus Est interfere more later since she's obviously one of the strongest holy spirits and I doubt she'd want Est to be the sword of the Dark Spirit King.
I can see something like this happen here as well. And some bad thing that happen in the past whre blame again the 6 spirit king or his reincarnation (if the theory is true).
They are dead serious lol. Apparently Kamito makes girl's pregnant just by looking at them too!

His reputation couldn't possibly be worse.

Also given the theories, I'm more than willing to be the one where The Dark Spirit king is the only good one is the right one. This series isn't exactly the most original one out there. So I'm sure they'll follow this cliche.

Poor Kamito can his reputation be worse than this?
Also will be interesting to see what the spirit king will do when they see kamito again . I doubt it that they don't know that Kamito = true ren and the one that ask that famous wish. I get the feeling that when the dance blade will end the true battle will start.Also i'm the only one that get the feeling that what Restia and Claire sister want will happen in the last battle of the Blade dance?:heh:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 09:00
Well Kamito's reputation is all base on misunderstanding. His reputation actually works both ways, girls both fear him and girls love him. Some actually wanted to be play with, seriously must be those erotic Novels they have been reading. Claire's sister and Restia want Kamito to be the next Spirit Lord, wonder how could that happen? Kamito isn't a Spirit, but a human.

Soji
2012-05-27, 09:10
Reaper@ Kamito have something that had yet to awake. Restia try hard in vol 6 to make this happen (from what i know). Also if he is the dark spirit reincarnation it's probally something along the line to awake that power inside him and then the power will do the rest?

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 12:55
Despite all the abuse Kamito has gotten from the harem, they really do care about him. They are very innocent and clueless about the opposite gender. Any information they have gotten about guys are from Erotic Novels, which isn't good. Any type of porn whether it is video, sound, book, or magazines usually depict women as weak creatures as tools for pleasure and males are demons. I tell for a fact that no matter how pretty a female looks, she is dangerous well that what I know from my experience. Though sometimes they are good, this is one example.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/7/78/STnBD_V05_002-003.jpg/800px-STnBD_V05_002-003.jpg

Richocet
2012-05-27, 13:08
Looks like vol 5 pics are up
@reaper that pic nearly killed me:love::love:...

Soji
2012-05-27, 13:09
Reaper@ I don't think that someone here deny they care about Kamito. Though will be interesting see what happen from now on.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 15:12
It wasn't my intentions to kill you Richocet, but glad you like the picture. Soji, I posted this because some where saying that the girls just uses Kamito without any regard to his feelings. I really want to read the rest of vol 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. I am so behind in this Novel.

Athena
2012-05-27, 15:36
Good luck, KH!~~~
Link to scans of vol 6 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1434895070)

Unfortunately, the vol7 ones are yet to be found. Anyway, could someone help uploading these to Baka-Tsuki? They don't have vol 6 images yet.


I wanted to do that yesterday. However, the pics I got were different than the previous one. Normally, the cover is over a single page, extended on the book's side. However, the covers I got were single paged, an there's not even page numbers...

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 15:44
Hahahaha I just love this Novel, hope it gets an anime adaptation soon and I mean a good one. Even though the prologue of vol 3 is small it gives us some startling details. Kamito was hotter than most girls when he cross dress during the last Blade Dance.

Sylphic
2012-05-27, 19:52
I need volume 8 now!!!

Volume 7 doesnt contain enough Restia. It's going to be a long 3 months.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 20:11
Sylphic so what about the other chapters in vol 7, you only told us 3. I want to know more, I can't find the info myself since Baka-Tsuki is taking too long.

Mura
2012-05-27, 20:16
Sylphic so what about the other chapters in vol 7, you only told us 3. I want to know more, I can't find the info myself since Baka-Tsuki is taking too long.

Wow really? I'm grateful that its being translated at all, let alone being worried about the speed of the translations.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 20:18
Well I am grateful for all the translations, just want more. When you find something interesting you want more. If Japan actually made an English version of the book, I would buy it in no hesitation.

Mura
2012-05-27, 20:21
Well I'm sure your aware of this but it does take take to do them and people have their own lives as well, just some patience wouldn't hurt. I understand you want more as I do as well, just gotta have some control over it.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-27, 20:28
I know, usually I encourage this. Though my patience even have limits, only then I am selfish. Anyway, Slyphic something must have happened in vol 7 for you to be so pumped up for vol 8 immediately.

Hell_ping
2012-05-27, 20:29
As I have to comment here. What, the, hell? This Baka-Tsuki isn't a fansub group. It's a place where a ragtag bunch of translators just put their translations. Do understand that B-T doesn't even pay its translators at all because first, it doesn't own translators, and second, the translators are all freelancers. If you want more, please learn Japanese or Chinese, thank you very much.

Riki
2012-05-27, 20:45
Ping got angry...!kill the heretic!

and reaperxkingx: its best if you delete those comments cuz it kinda ticks the brain if you know what i mean

Hell_ping
2012-05-27, 20:55
I had enough ever since some folks decide to try their luck last Friday...on an indefinite leave from B-T.

Riki
2012-05-27, 21:05
....guess someone asked you to translate a novel that they really wanna know but seems to be ignorant about other peoples life thinking that they are some kind of software that only satisfies your very needs? then yea sorry to hear that....err i can only say calm down since im not used to calming ppl down....if i offend you then sorry.......

dragon1412
2012-05-27, 21:59
i'm quite understand your what you are getting at, i mean, compare the current community with the time when baka-tsuki still doing Haruhi translation, the speed right now is quite fast, however, please be a little patient cause when people want translation, most of them don't know the diffirent between translating LN and manga, i know you are annoyed but please calm down a little.

And for people who keep saying there is no progress, try watching about 20-30+ pages full of text on the computer and start typing them, just be grateful that they are continue to translate, you are receiving their work for free, you guys thinks you guys have any right to demand ?

once said this in the Campione thread, repost it for people keep demand for translation

Hell_ping
2012-05-27, 22:21
....guess someone asked you to translate a novel that they really wanna know but seems to be ignorant about other peoples life thinking that they are some kind of software that only satisfies your very needs? then yea sorry to hear that....err i can only say calm down since im not used to calming ppl down....if i offend you then sorry.......

once said this in the Campione thread, repost it for people keep demand for translation

...Whole different ball game altogether when people send you death threats to translate faster...It's not about welfare now, we're machines to some...

For the translation of this series, it is going very fast for a B-T project. Goodness...

Valky
2012-05-27, 22:25
Death threat ...? That's a new way to treat your benefactor .. wtf?

Riki
2012-05-27, 22:36
Death threat ...? That's a new way to treat your benefactor .. wtf?

Hmmm how would i put it....well since i started translating(snail pace) i've received mails saying "go faster" or "dont translate if your this slow". and i only begin recently

pings case on the other-hand he translate many LN so apparently fans of all the different LN send "mails"....and he's one of the guys that can "Trans-am":heh:. so in a way people are kinda greedy with things they want and....*its annoying face*.

dragon1412
2012-05-27, 22:41
...Whole different ball game altogether when people send you death threats to translate faster...It's not about welfare now, we're machines to some...

For the translation of this series, it is going very fast for a B-T project. Goodness...

death threats ? now thats... a little too much. But Ping, most of the people who read the translation dont't know the diffirence between translating a LN and a manga. They mostly all thought that its just japanese but they don't realized that in LN there are exist much more complicated grammar and Kanji, while most manga use relatively simple one, and BT is a volunteer commiting site, so sometimes the speed is higher, or sometimes lower and most people demand the speed of a weekly tranlating manga team which is complety diffirent. Rage at them might quited them down for a while but it changes nothing, just ignore them. In the past and even right now, i know some BT translator who don't even care about these comment and just say " i'm going my pace, if you want faster release, translate it on your own" so.. what i want to say is hater gonna hate so why bothering with them, there are a lot others who thanks and appriciate yours work anyway.

Sylphic
2012-05-27, 22:43
I was a very active scanlator, but the crappiness of the manga community made me stop.

Translation is a passion of mine, and I'd be throwing myself onto this novel of it weren't for some real life issues I'm dealing with right now.

If any of you can give me an amazing job lol, we'd be caught up on Seirei Tsukai already :p

All Fiction
2012-05-28, 01:06
"Baka-Tsuki is taking too long" ?

One translated chapter per week is a damn good rate, you know. And it's just KuroiHikari him/herself, he/she is doing a more than fine job.

Tom Bombadil
2012-05-28, 02:02
Apologize if I have mislead some of our forumers, the one who was going to take the exam is not KuroHikari, but some Chinese translator (in the sense of "translating from Japanese to Chinese").

Agreed on "KuroHikari doing a great job" part. Kudos to him/her.

Edit:

according to here http://blog.mediafactory.co.jp/mfbunkoj/?p=10701

■『精霊使いの剣舞』1~7巻

志瑞祐先生×桜はんぺん先生がお贈りする、

大人気学園ファンタジー×バトルアクション!

こちらも、

既刊1~6巻と、

5月発売の最新7巻が重版決定です!

こちらも7巻は発売前重版ですねー。すごい!

It seems that vol7 sold out so fast that they are doing additional printing.

Hell_ping
2012-05-28, 03:17
death threats ? now thats... a little too much. But Ping, most of the people who read the translation dont't know the diffirence between translating a LN and a manga. They mostly all thought that its just japanese but they don't realized that in LN there are exist much more complicated grammar and Kanji, while most manga use relatively simple one, and BT is a volunteer commiting site, so sometimes the speed is higher, or sometimes lower and most people demand the speed of a weekly tranlating manga team which is complety diffirent. Rage at them might quited them down for a while but it changes nothing, just ignore them. In the past and even right now, i know some BT translator who don't even care about these comment and just say " i'm going my pace, if you want faster release, translate it on your own" so.. what i want to say is hater gonna hate so why bothering with them, there are a lot others who thanks and appriciate yours work anyway.

I became somewhat cynical over readers, namely how many would take for granted (and it’s not like I translated the series for them because I liked them or that I felt pity for them–in a somewhat tsundere like fashion). However, I would occasionally tell off readers at times when I feel that they stepped over the line, mainly because I’m somewhat idealistic in thinking that I can drill this into their heads.

Let's face it, Kuroihikari's progress on this series is currently the fastest on Baka-Tsuki. Faster than High School DxD. That's how fast the translation is now.

All Fiction
2012-05-28, 03:37
it seems that vol7 sold out so fast that they are doing additional printing.

witness the power of cross-dressing!

Sylphic
2012-05-28, 03:51
More like everyone just wants to see Kamito x Restia!!!

Xacual
2012-05-28, 04:01
I'm kind of torn between either Est or Restia, or the Est / Restia threesome. Not sure which pairing I want to see win. As long as Claire doesn't win just because she was the "first girl" to appear in the series.

for3ver
2012-05-28, 04:06
...Whole different ball game altogether when people send you death threats to translate faster...It's not about welfare now, we're machines to some...

For the translation of this series, it is going very fast for a B-T project. Goodness...

lol wut?

death threats over something they get for free?

humans...

tsunade666
2012-05-28, 04:17
I'm kind of torn between either Est or Restia, or the Est / Restia threesome. Not sure which pairing I want to see win. As long as Claire doesn't win just because she was the "first girl" to appear in the series.

Harem end is the answer or threesome I tell you THREESOME!

witness the power of cross-dressing!

The cover is too much misleading.

dragon1412
2012-05-28, 04:27
Let's face it, Kuroihikari's progress on this series is currently the fastest on Baka-Tsuki. Faster than High School DxD. That's how fast the translation is now.

lol wut?

death threats over something they get for free?

humans...


ok, now Ping, for3ver take a deep breath 1,2 and calm down... i talked about it before, it's true that there are some annoying people who thinks they can demand for anything, at the same time there are some who truly appreciate yours works and respect you, and its not like raging at them change their personality overnight so just ignore it, well, though i said that but it still better to rage sometimes to let it out, just don't let something that you guys were mean to enjoy become something annoying just because some people keep annoyed you, you guys pretty much start translate to let other can enjoy the same work that you guys like, annoy over it because of some selfish person is not good for your mental health. This is a direct quote from a very charismatic, attractive, shinning, handsome to the point that god have to bow to Translator who have to step down when he prepare for the university exam.

tsunade666
2012-05-28, 04:34
actually among the translators. I could say that ping_bro is unique in a sense. He translates work that he might not like or just not his favorite. You remember a poll for who's work he will translate next? the one where SAO wins. People ask why make a poll and just translate the one he likes. But he said he translate so other people can read the work and if you keep translating only the works you like then that will leave other works untranslated even if many people want it translated. Unique and great right!? :D

Though SAO fans really out really dig out their own grave this time around >.>

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 06:20
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=File:STnBD_V05_217.jpg
this pic.........something make me want to cry........
what is that?
Kamito and Restia Relationship?

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 07:20
Don't worry about it much Ruki0089, it gets a lot better on. Restia is participating in the next Blade Dance despite not being human. She does care of Kamito, she is trying to make him her new master which is the next Dark Spirit Lord. Oh and Teh_Ping I didn't get to respond to you yesterday since a Tropical Storm hit where I was living and cut my power. I only voice my desire, you make it seems like I want to put a gun to someone's head and force them to translate. Some people here know me from the High School DXD thread, and they know I am typically reserved on asking how the translation are coming. I know your frustrations on people demanding translations, but I am not those hardcore type so loosen up on the Hostility. I get that enough from my girlfriend's parents everyday, don't need more.

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 07:25
hah.........it gets a lot better on...Yeah, I agree........reaper
Can someone tell me?
what happen here
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=File:STnBD_V05_086.jpg

damn, i hope we can get another translator!!!

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 07:27
Hahahaha well since the girls in the Academy has many Erotic books, their imagination must have gone wild and place themselves in the scenario of the Erotic Book.

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 07:33
oh....... erotic book
I thought they read Kamito diary.......and their imagination has gone wild and place themselves in the scenario of that

Soji
2012-05-28, 07:39
Reaper and Ruki0089 I think that pic is from this scene.

decided to work on a little translation. Previously, I only gave a brief summary of the library scene.


*The girls are researching for ways to get Est back. While they're flipping through the books...*

"Restricted Ancient Magic? There might be some use - WHAT?
Suddenly, Ellis let out a shocked voice.
"Ellis, did you find something!?"
"No, NO! It's nothing..."
"....?"
Claire looked at the book Ellis opened
And...
"Ah AHH. What, what is this!?"
Claire's face suddenly became red.
In the book, there were various pictures of inappropriately dressed priestess.
This restricted magic book had contents that were new territory even for Claire who likes a bit of H in her romance novels.
"Sha... shameful, how shameful!"
"Knight Captain, what are you doing..."
The normally composed Ellis was shaking her head, "No, NO! I was flipping through this book and accidently came upon it."
"....." "...." "...."
There was a moment of silence.
In front of the restricted book, the three ladies all held their breath.
Claire started, "That, it's alright to take a look right?"
"....yeah, you're right. There might be some useful information in there."
"Ah, Ahhh, yeah. We can't deny that possibility-"
Rinslet and Ellis both avoided eye contact.
Claire than nodded and moved her shaking hand toward the book.
Then-
"...! This, what is this!? I... I can't understand it"
"How can this be..., blind, blindfolded. To do this sort of thing... AHHH!"
"This, so this is a man's....?"
"To use a mouth to suck... and lick, lick?"
"To put it in between the breast... ah... this, how can you do this!?"
"....." "......" "......"
All of these girls were already exhausted from merely holding hands with a boy.
After witnessing a whole new world, they're all speechless.
In the quiet archives, there was only the sound of constant page flipping.



I mean from the pic and the vol that come from ...i think this is the only scene that fit that pic (at least from what i know).

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 07:42
Just imagine it
Nosebleed

damn.........
what a pure........
i cant wait to read full translation

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 07:42
Well you can see from your picture that there was two books. From the Logical stand point, Kamito wouldn't have two Diaries so that mark it out. I figured it out, because there was another picture that told their intentions. Claire, Rinslet, and Ellis were trying to find out a way to cheer up Kamito because he is a little depress since Est isn't with him during that volume until the end. They decided to get the references from an Erotic books, since they don't know how Kamito or any male feels. Strange Choice if you ask me, though at the end it did help. This picture gave out their intention and what were going on in their heads. Ops never mind, Soji already posted the real reason.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/7/78/STnBD_V05_002-003.jpg/800px-STnBD_V05_002-003.jpg

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 07:45
damn you, reaper!!!You did it!!!!
i try to avoid that picture
but you show that pic!!!!!

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 07:54
It is strange, Claire is the only one that dresses up like her Contract Spirit. Rinslett has a White Wolf so I expect her to cross dress like a wolf, and Ellis. All I know is her contract spirit is wind and it is a spear, so wonder when did she decide to cross dress like a dog?

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 08:01
damn......i cant avoid my eyes...........
Thanks fo that .......All my stress from School disappeared!!!!

Soji
2012-05-28, 08:05
It is strange, Claire is the only one that dresses up like her Contract Spirit. Rinslett has a White Wolf so I expect her to cross dress like a wolf, and Ellis. All I know is her contract spirit is wind and it is a spear, so wonder when did she decide to cross dress like a dog?

Maybe Ellis wants to be that for kamito ?:p( just kidding). Then again ,from what i know Ellis is *M*therefore it can be.:heh:

Ruki0089
2012-05-28, 08:08
Hmmmmm.........
i hope i can see S&M Play beside est

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 08:09
Still it served the purpose of cheering Kamito up. Though it is still bad that they get all the references of men from Erotic Novels, well it depends what view point you are looking from. S&M Est is when Est read one of Claire's Erotic Novels and gotten the clothes from Fianna.

Richocet
2012-05-28, 08:21
I just noticed that nice collar Ellis has on:heh:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 08:43
It still scares me that Kamito is a genius when cross dressing. From what Ellis described of Ren Ashbell 3 years ago, Ellis said Kamito was very beautiful girl. That was when Ellis first saw Kamito when he face against her sister.
From the West gate, the Ordesia Empire's representative Spirit Contractor was entering.
A refined gathering of stars shone in her beautiful rondo hair.
Delicately sculpted carvings decorated her silver armor.
Clothed in a red cloak, a conquest-like appearance, just like a general returning victoriously.
Versaria Eva Fahrengart.
She came from a lower noble family that had declined because of the Ranbaru war. Thanks to the promises of her talent as a Spirit Contractor, she was adopted into the Fahrengart house, and became Ellis's two years older step-sister.
Even though she was a freshman from the Areishia Spirit Academy, she was chosen from among all the elite Spirit Contractors from all nations, as a representative at the the Blade Dance Festival. That a freshman was chosen as the Blade Dance Representative was a precedence previously unheard of in the long tradition of Areishia Spirit Academy.
And in such a step-sister, was Elis's ideal image of a knight stacked together; and she respected her from her depths of her heart.
She advanced headed towards the middle of the stage. Then, at door on the east side, the opponent Spirit Contractor appeared.
Having long black hair that extended to her hips, an exotic clothed person with a large gap between her trousers.
Although having youthful features, she was so beautiful that even Elis, despite being of the same gender, was taken back.
In her hands lay, contrary to her lovely appearance, a wicked-looking darkness-colored sword.
"Grandfather, who is that girl?"
"Ren Ashbell, an independent Spirit Contractor."
"Independent........not belonging to any country or organization. Is that what you're implying?"
"Yeah. Apparently it seems there was a powerful person's influence. It also seems that her age is the same as you 13 years old."

sandhy88
2012-05-28, 08:56
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=File:STnBD_V05_217.jpg
this pic.........something make me want to cry........
what is that?
Kamito and Restia Relationship?

it's happen when claire and the other taking a bath.

it's Kamito and Restia first meeting after Blade Dance started and Restia offer Kamito to become his Spirit again with the price of breaking contract with Est (Est is still "running away" because her curse). Vol 5 is the story about Est' past and her curse.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 09:06
Thanks for the information sandhy88, though I like Restia and Kamito being together. I also like Est and Kamito as well, even the other girls maybe a Harem ending if possible. Though if I had to choose between two Spirits like Est and Restia it would be Est. Simply because her naivety and her adorable looks, her adorable looks outmatch Restia in my opinion. Here is an example.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/0/01/STnBD_V05_259.jpg/408px-STnBD_V05_259.jpg

Soji
2012-05-28, 09:10
Reaper.@ Though, it's no really matter what we think or like the chose is for Kamito to made.:heh:
Also for the harem ending we need that Kamito like all the girls in romantic way,thing that until now don't happen. Though he do say that the girls are cute or thing like this and praise them(Ellis ecc) though the only one that praise and say the praise to her was Ellis. to the other was more him think(I think). It's more possible that end with Kamito + the 2 spirit sword or one of them.Then again we do know who he want the most. Yet we know as well what Restia and claire sister try to do .

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 09:17
Well this Novel is new compared to others and it also takes a new brand of harem by making the Male Lead dominating the females. Base from the releases, 3 months apart from every volumes and now there is 7. So it is a little than 2 years so there are plenty of room for the Novel to go on and have the author make Kamito love all the Girls. Despite the abuse he has gotten from the harem he does care for them in a great deal even Claire since her situation was like his. All the girls love him despite them trying to deny it. Wouldn't mind a harem ending.

XFire
2012-05-28, 10:12
Well this Novel is new compared to others and it also takes a new brand of harem by making the Male Lead dominating the females. Base from the releases, 3 months apart from every volumes and now there is 7. So it is a little than 2 years so there are plenty of room for the Novel to go on and have the author make Kamito love all the Girls. Despite the abuse he has gotten from the harem he does care for them in a great deal even Claire since her situation was like his. All the girls love him despite them trying to deny it. Wouldn't mind a harem ending.

Agree with this. I'm considering this a True Harem at the moment along with DxD and Campione, because the authors seem to go out of their way to make an actual harem end seem the most likely.

Of course, the harem end is actually set for the other two, so I may just be fooling myself because of the awesome MC.

Soji
2012-05-28, 10:21
I dont know guys. We alredy see 7 vol and i don't heard about kamito show romatic feeling or more feeling toward one or more human girl/girls in the harem. I admit that this can change in future vol ..s.till. Then again if Kamito really become the new Dark spirit king I suppose that would become possible(the whole harem thing...Restia allowing lol) . But we do know that Claire sister try to find a Pritess for him.XD

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 10:53
Who knows what could happen, maybe Claire's sister will hit the idea that she will be the Priestess for Kamito. Rinslet's sister is already smitten by Kamito, without Kamito's knowledge so it could happen. This Novel follow a pattern, but relationship wise it is unpredictable. Ironically XFire, Campione, High School DXD, and Blade Dance are on the top of the Japanese selling charts. People like a True Harem story, not a harem where the Main Character is dense *cough cough* Infinite Stratos.

XFire
2012-05-28, 11:05
Who knows what could happen, maybe Claire's sister will hit the idea that she will be the Priestess for Kamito. Rinslet's sister is already smitten by Kamito, without Kamito's knowledge so it could happen. This Novel follow a pattern, but relationship wise it is unpredictable. ironically XFire, Campione, High School DXD, and Blade Dance are on the top of the Japanese selling charts. People like a True Harem, story, not a harem where the Main Character is dense *cough cough* Infinite Stratos.

I'd say it's fairly predictable. Girl meets Kamito, Kamito offhandedly steals her heart and soul forever, comedy ensues. lol

I'm glad to here that about the novel rankings. It seems like the Japanese might have passed through the whole tsundere phase. While I understand the appeal of the character type, a lot of stories I saw were essentially contests to see what perverted accident would happen, and how badly the girls could punish the eternally weak MC.

Campione instead has a mix of normal tsundere and very straight forward goudere (everything for the sake of the master/MC). And the female lead is a Sue who is actually written right. Instant Win.

DxD is pure, unadulterated dere-dere. From everyone. Even the "tsundere" is nicer than most of the "nice" girls in a traditional harem. Also, it has an Author-confirmed Harem End.

Blade Dance has the same characters as a normal harem series, like tsundere, temptress, loli, etc. However, the MC acts like the protag of an eroge. He's aggressive, assertive, confident, and a complete S. That alone makes it worth reading.



Oops, I started ranting again.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 11:10
No no you can go on because I am agreeing on every statement, I never played a Eroge before. What is it? I am very interested in new culture especially Japanese, my girlfriend too, we both read Manga, Anime, Novel, and the occasionally the porn but we decided never again after we found out how dark it was. Oh for people who don't know Rinslet's little sister here is a picture. She is very cute and more driven than her sister.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/5/5b/STnBD_V05_111.jpg/408px-STnBD_V05_111.jpg

Soji
2012-05-28, 11:15
Another one that agree with you Xfire.
He's aggressive, assertive, confident, and a complete S
Soo true.

Reaper @ Eroge = Hentai game or 18 + so to speak . Normally they are read text and chose what to do when there is a choise to made. This kind of game have multiple route /ending. But from game to game can have pretty bad and dark ending.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 11:19
It depends on your actions, so in short it is like a dating simulator and your actions affects the ending. It is like Witcher, but it is entirely about romance. May try it, first need permission from the girl sleeping on the bed. Kamito is a good Main Character. He is strong, though he is sometimes abuse by the harem, but he can stand on his own against them. We see this time and time again and I like this type of main Character. Just wished we gotten all the back story on Kamito.

Soji
2012-05-28, 11:26
Reaper@ Pretty much.
Anyway. I agree with everything you say about Kamito.Regarding his full back story ,I think we will have that one only when Restia gain all her memory back(if this is possible) or she is back or both of this thing. Because let's be honest here the only one that know the full Kamito Back story it's her.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 11:31
Yeah pretty much, Kamito lived in orphanage trained for Assassins, afterwards the orphanage was discovered and destroyed. Kamito escaped with Restia, then the story picked up to the Blade Dance. Not much is known from the back story other than he met the Duskwitch, his encounter with the other girls history, and Restia not allowing him to touch any girls. I want to know the full thing, meaning what happened between when Kamito escaped and the Blade Dance. That would include his training and his meeting the Dusk Witch.

Hell_ping
2012-05-28, 19:52
Oh and Teh_Ping I didn't get to respond to you yesterday since a Tropical Storm hit where I was living and cut my power. I only voice my desire, you make it seems like I want to put a gun to someone's head and force them to translate. Some people here know me from the High School DXD thread, and they know I am typically reserved on asking how the translation are coming. I know your frustrations on people demanding translations, but I am not those hardcore type so loosen up on the Hostility. I get that enough from my girlfriend's parents everyday, don't need more.

Sylphic so what about the other chapters in vol 7, you only told us 3. I want to know more, I can't find the info myself since Baka-Tsuki is taking too long.

...Doesn't sound convincing there...

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 20:08
Teh_Ping you know that the lower post was before the first post. The second post was me asking for spoilers, spoilers makes me excited to read. Little, but important information will satisfy me. I already dropped the subject already, so why don't we just get along and discuss the what is already out there in a friendly manner. It is all water under the bridge, hope you feel the same.

kuroishinigami
2012-05-28, 21:08
Who knows what could happen, maybe Claire's sister will hit the idea that she will be the Priestess for Kamito. Rinslet's sister is already smitten by Kamito, without Kamito's knowledge so it could happen. This Novel follow a pattern, but relationship wise it is unpredictable. Ironically XFire, Campione, High School DXD, and Blade Dance are on the top of the Japanese selling charts. People like a True Harem story, not a harem where the Main Character is dense *cough cough* Infinite Stratos.

FYI, Infinite Stratos massacred the other title in number of sales/book at Japan before the author stopped writing it(well beside index, and haruhi). I doubt the three titles you mention has surpassed IS in sales/book. As bad as IS story has become, no one can't deny that it's an extremely popular series in Japan.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 21:23
Not arguing about story wise kuroishinigami, I like it and it is very popular. I am talking about rankings of Romance. People read Infinite Stratos for the action and excitement, I don't think they read it for the Romance. Anyhow, lets discuss the this Novel.

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 22:32
I think we are getting off topic, but like you said Infinite Stratos is very popular in Japan and sells there are higher than the 3 stories I mentioned. Though I believe the 3 stories will soon be there with it, I like reading Infinite Stratos based on the actions and comedy, not the Romance since there isn't much mutual love in it. I have the story of Infinite Stratos in my head already, when I compared it to the other stuff I read I prefer Campione!, High School DXD, and Blade Dance. Infinte Stratos sells sky rocket when the anime came out, it was pretty decent. When the anime adaptation on Blade Dance comes out (Highly likely an anime adaptation will come out, although not the top of sells it is popular), pretty sure it will sky rocket as well.

kuroishinigami
2012-05-28, 22:40
Yeah, sorry, already deleted my post. A little too late though lol. Back to the topic, how haremish the story get in the later volume? does the antics fill up more than half of the volume? I might pick this up if it's not too haremish, although since it's published by mf bunko, I guess I'm expecting too much? :p

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 22:46
Don't know the meaning of Haremish, do you mean Kamito just keep getting girls and the Novel is entirely on love? Than that is a no, Harem Romance is pretty decent in here but it also has great story. Many mysteries, and if you are into S&M than you will love the harem interaction with Kamito. Action is also great, comedy too. Though the Main Character is getting stronger and stronger later on, well not getting stronger but regains his strength that he lost before the Novel started out. I love reading it and wish to read more, though it has gotten me in trouble with Mura and Teh_Ping. Though I think already been apologetically enough, if not I will say I am sorry again. kuroishinigami, this Light Novel is worth reading in my opinion try it out. Baka-Tsuki has only 2 volumes translated, but those were enough to get me hooked.

Richocet
2012-05-28, 22:52
Well as far as I recall, the haremette are all wanting him but his heart is for Restia and now Est. Although the things that the other girls do is hilarious like when Claire reads a "certain" book and used the "information" for her use:heh:

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 22:59
Hahahaha you might as well post the details in the spoiler tag, still can't believe it. Kamito have had interactions before with the harem, not directly, but they knew him as Ren Ashbell. Due to Kamito 3 years ago, Claire's continuous insults directed towards her has lighten up since the Fire Spirit Lord stopped throwing a tantrum due to Kamito's blade dance. Fianna met Kamito when he saved her, and they made a promise. Ellis saw Kamito when he was fighting against her sister and won, since Kamito didn't lose the Blade Dance. What was Rinslet interaction with Kamito back then?

kuroishinigami
2012-05-28, 23:08
Don't know the meaning of Haremish, do you mean Kamito just keep getting girls and the Novel is entirely on love? Than that is a no, Harem Romance is pretty decent in here but it also has great story. Many mysteries, and if you are into S&M than you will love the harem interaction with Kamito. Action is also great, comedy too. Though the Main Character is getting stronger and stronger later on, well not getting stronger but regains his strength that he lost before the Novel started out. I love reading it and wish to read more, though it has gotten me in trouble with Mura and Teh_Ping. Though I think already been apologetically enough, if not I will say I am sorry again. kuroishinigami, this Light Novel is worth reading in my opinion try it out. Baka-Tsuki has only 2 volumes translated, but those were enough to get me hooked.

I can read japanese fine so availability is not a problem for me. What I meant was, how many part of the novel cover the harem antic on average? More than half like highschool dxd or hidan no aria is too much for me right now, but a little bit of it like index should be fine.

Richocet
2012-05-28, 23:11
I can read japanese fine so availability is not a problem for me. What I meant was, how many part of the novel cover the harem antic on average? More than half like highschool dxd or hidan no aria is too much for me right now, but a little bit of it like index should be fine.

It switches in and out with scenes being there in b/w serious moments to keep the story light hearted, bt from what I've read so far it seems to me like 60-40 in favor of Haremish

ReaperxKingx
2012-05-28, 23:12
Well base on vol 1 and 2, I say 20 to 35 percent. Though what I heard from vol 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 it really focuses on combat, the mysteries, the past of the Main Character, and things in terms that can be said insanity. Trust me it is good. I prefer my light novels to have several things in them. Combat, Romance, Fantasy, and Comedy. If you like any of these together or even separately, I think you will enjoy your time reading it.

dragon1412
2012-05-29, 03:30
I can read japanese fine so availability is not a problem for me. What I meant was, how many part of the novel cover the harem antic on average? More than half like highschool dxd or hidan no aria is too much for me right now, but a little bit of it like index should be fine.

if i have to say than you will se a similar theme to the 1st few vol of TAMNI, which mean each vol focus on a girl, the harem antics pretty much use for Comedy part which only exist for a small in each vol but from vol4,5 onward the romance element cover over the harem element so compare to DxD and TAMNI, its more similar to TAMNI but not as large in scale or superior plan,twist and little heavier in harem element(compare a normal novel to Kamachi.exe is just wrong you know), so far up to vol 7 the plot is decent enough on its own with some mixed of darker element and the MC flashbacks about his past plus some twist later. Personally, i won't say it a Must-read by all cost type but rather a quite decent to read type. Well, thats too dpend on your taste but when you read this one, at least read up to vol 5 ,6 due to the first few vol is Extremely similar to Hidan no aria

Ruki0089
2012-05-29, 03:38
Yeah pretty much, Kamito lived in orphanage trained for Assassins, afterwards the orphanage was discovered and destroyed. Kamito escaped with Restia, then the story picked up to the Blade Dance. Not much is known from the back story other than he met the Duskwitch, his encounter with the other girls history, and Restia not allowing him to touch any girls. I want to know the full thing, meaning what happened between when Kamito escaped and the Blade Dance. That would include his training and his meeting the Dusk Witch.

Restia not allowing him to touch any girls?
when she said this one?:confused::confused: