Rose Guns Days (07th Expansion) [Archive]

Bluemail

2012-01-31, 13:07

It's here!!!!!
Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!! :D
http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm

All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!! :)

I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!It says: "1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard." I wonder if it's going to be a noir/hard-boiled detective story. That would be really great. Somehow the title also makes me think of a western, which might be great too. Or perhaps this underworld is not what we believe it to be...

I'm excited about this as well, though the title sounded a bit weird. After all, 07th Expansion previous titles were all in Japanese, and had about the same structure. This new English name with three words not making a sentence makes me think of Fate Stay Night. :D

I think Ryukishi said this was going to be a series at least, and not a single sound novel, though we can't be sure.

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

RedKey

2012-01-31, 13:29

>continuing from the Umineko translation thread
I guess I did post in the wrong place after all. Sorry, Klashikari.

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

Good point. I wonder if he intends to expand the interactivity he tested with Umineko EP8, or at least have a multi-ending game.

myopius

2012-01-31, 13:40

So we have conspicuous use of the English language, the words "rose" and "guns", bricks, worn paper, a metallic gleam to the title, 1947, the (criminal) underworld, and someone looking for a bodyguard.

I don't find it hard to imagine that Rose Guns Days will be set in a country like America or Britain, especially considering the Western influence in Umineko's setting.

And of course, when it comes to bodyguards, I can't help but be reminded of
Ange and Amakusaand so I find myself thinking the "rose" (notably in the singular form compared to "guns") could be a young lady. Although the plot of a bishoujo in need of a bodyguard has been done before in anime and manga, with Ryuukishi the writer perceived cliches need not be feared.

I look forward to more information.

SilverSyko

2012-01-31, 16:59

Huh. I was under the impression the second part of the subtitle said "a city by night", not "the underworld", but I guess either-or makes sense if you think about it. There is the term "criminal underground" after all.

But yeah. I can easily see the setting from the info we have here as something like L.A. Noire, with it's 1940's film noir detective cases, except only in a visual novel form and with Ryukishi07's personal artstyle. In that case the setting most likely isn't in Japan, which is cool.

Interested in seeing more.~

immblueversion

2012-01-31, 17:53

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

Well, I looked up ノベルゲーム on the Japanese Wikipedia, and it redirected to ビジュアルノベル (visual novel), meaning the term, similar to "sound novel", is at least related to a visual novel. However, I wouldn't know if or how it will be different from the format of Higurashi, Umineko, and Higanbana. Maybe it will play out more like a game than the previous games by requiring more interaction from the player besides scrolling to text? Of course, this is merely pure speculation with a weak basis.

Ander

2012-01-31, 20:09

This will be pretty interesting, can't wait :3

By the way, 1947 = Black Dahlia Murder??

Von Himmel

2012-01-31, 20:18

The first that came up to my mind was : Guns and Roses w

Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible.
I also think that the setting won't be in Japan too.

Tyabann

2012-02-01, 03:26

So, what, is he going to tackle American detective fiction after attempting the British tradition? Awesome. :heh:

MeoTwister5

2012-02-01, 03:36

If he plans detective film noir style post WW2... well lets see how he fares.

Leafsnail

2012-02-01, 14:08

If he wants to keep a supernatural or "supernatural" element then 1947 happens to be the year of the Roswell UFO Incident.

Toony

2012-02-01, 14:11

It will probably be set in New Mexico. Sounds pretty western-ish and that's when the Roswell incident happened.

DAMN YOU

Kurizu204

2012-02-01, 19:28

If he wants to keep a supernatural or "supernatural" element then 1947 happens to be the year of the Roswell UFO Incident.ALL OF MY MONEY.
When the aliens cry, no anus is left unprobed.

rogerpepitone

2012-02-02, 10:33

So, what, is he going to tackle American detective fiction after attempting the British tradition? Awesome. :heh:

S. S. Van Dine and Philo Vance were American.

Tyabann

2012-02-02, 14:57

S. S. Van Dine and Philo Vance were American.

And SSVD wrote in the British tradition, yes.

Kylon99

2012-02-03, 01:23

Rosa Guns Days
http://i.imgur.com/6yCux.png
The dame waltzed in, confident and assured, like a snake tightening on its next juicy meal. She gave off an air of trouble.
"I have a proposition for you, Mr. Ushiromiya," she said, getting straight to the matter as she poked her fan at me. She smelled of something nice, but not the kind you get at the local Stern's Department Store. It was the smell of money.

http://i.imgur.com/tc7V6.png
I didn't call her for a make-out; she wasn't like that. She knew how to throw lead and she was soft on the eyes. That, and she owed me a favor.

By the way, I wonder if it's any coincidence that there WAS a 1948 film noir movie called Bodyguard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmpR5bjPKIM

HasuMasu

2012-02-03, 02:59

It will probably be set in New Mexico. Sounds pretty western-ish and that's when the Roswell incident happened.

DAMN YOU

If that turns out to be the case, I'm sold. :heh:

RedKey

2012-02-03, 05:31

Ryukishi just posted on his blog that he will give every Friday some additional details about the new setting! Here's the first character concept art
http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/567.jpg

moichispa

2012-02-04, 10:00

I'm not sure about the every Friday thing because he has already posted another one.

RedKey

2012-02-04, 11:06

I'm not sure about the every Friday thing because he has already posted another one.

Yeah, I only translated what he wrote :heh: looks like there's yet another artwork.

legomaple

2012-02-06, 10:53

S. S. Van Dine and Philo Vance were American.

if will shows up, I'm buying it without knowing what the story is.

Ryukishi just posted on his blog that he will give every Friday some additional details about the new setting! Here's the first character concept art
http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/567.jpg

It looks like he is going back to umineko style? Didn't really like the Higanbana style when I first saw it. Even less than the Umineko style.

Albert-Chamomile

2012-02-08, 22:13

New concept art!
http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/568.jpg

Ouverture

2012-02-10, 06:47

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/569.jpg
Nice

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/clip.cgi

RedKey

2012-02-10, 13:52

I think that confirms our speculations about Rose Guns Days being mafia-themed.

Yirba

2012-02-10, 16:21

Ronove's translation of Ryuukishi07's latest blog post:

Right now I’m really enjoying writing this!

This time I’m writing faster than I’ve written other works, and I have that good feeling of tension.

This time we have some male characters, and I have a bad feeling about them!

This guy in the middle has quite a unique way of speaking.

Since this latest work is full of completely different characters than I’ve written before, drawing them out makes things feel fresh.

As far as information about the world, characters, etc, I’d be happy if you would please look forward for our slamming announcement on February 26th~!

Miraluka

2012-02-10, 20:30

ALL OF MY MONEY.
When the aliens cry, no anus is left unprobed.
I'm on the same boat :heh:.

Ryukishi just posted on his blog that he will give every Friday some additional details about the new setting! Here's the first character concept art
http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/567.jpg
Left hand drawing FTW!

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/569.jpg
Nice

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/clip.cgi
The guy on the right... looks gay, maybe because the open shirt makes him look fabulous? :heh:.

February 26th, here we gooo!!

RandomAvatarFan

2012-02-11, 18:43

Ooh... it does look like a noir type game. I find it pretty neat that he tries so different styles and genres. Now I have something to look forward to once I finish Umineko.

Is Higanbana being placed on hold for this, or will he try to finish Higanbana before releasing this?

By the way:

New concept art!
http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/568.jpg
She did it. Look at her hair, that's Takano's hair, it gotta be her.

Ithekro

2012-02-11, 18:58

Be funny if they put in elements of the other games backstories into this.

VDZ

2012-02-11, 21:42

Is Higanbana being placed on hold for this, or will he try to finish Higanbana before releasing this?

Higanbana is finished. It's not a long series like Higurashi and Umineko.

Be funny if they put in elements of the other games backstories into this.

This story takes place in an entirely different universe, so that's unlikely.

Yirba

2012-02-11, 22:04

Is Higanbana being placed on hold for this, or will he try to finish Higanbana before releasing this?

Ryuukishi07 isn't planning on writing any more Higanbana. The series should be considered 'finished'.

legomaple

2012-02-12, 15:32

This story takes place in an entirely different universe, so that's unlikely.

Aren't the fragments bassically other universes?:P Nah, just kidding.

Tamekichi

2012-02-13, 12:35

Is anyone or any group planning on translating this when it comes out?

Yirba

2012-02-13, 12:44

Is anyone or any group planning on translating this when it comes out?

I think the translation groups are interested, but don't expect an announcement until at least we know more details about the game. :p

Tamekichi

2012-02-13, 12:53

I think the translation groups are interested, but don't expect an announcement until at least we know more details about the game. :p
Which translation groups would that be, Witch Hunt and Ronove?

Yirba

2012-02-13, 12:59

Which translation groups would that be, Witch Hunt and Ronove?

I don't know about Witch Hunt, but we in the Higanbana translation group haven't discussed the possibility. There may be other groups who want to translate Rose Guns Days, so it's hard to say how things will work out.

Klashikari

2012-02-13, 13:01

Better to have more info, and potential a first playthrough before we can announce anything. It also depends how busy we will be when RGD will be released.

Yirba

2012-02-13, 13:09

Yeah, for instance, we don't even know if Rose Guns Days even uses NScripter. In the unlikely case that 07th Expansion uses a different engine, it may be difficult to get at the scripts, etc.

Given the fact that we know next to no info about the story, it's hard to say whether translators would be interested enough by it to want to translate it.

I'm sure it'll get a translation. But who will be doing the translation probably wouldn't be decided until close to, or even after the game's release.

Snow_Storm

2012-02-13, 13:14

DIdn't he JUST came out with a visual novel not too long ago?

I really wanna see how he'll tackle the American style Film Noir in terms of visual novels.

Yirba

2012-02-13, 14:13

DIdn't he JUST came out with a visual novel not too long ago?

I really wanna see how he'll tackle the American style Film Noir in terms of visual novels.

Well, Higanbana: The Second Night was released in December…

It's really just conjecture as to whether it's really a 'film noire' style, but it should be interesting nonetheless.

RandomAvatarFan

2012-02-14, 18:14

Well, Higanbana: The Second Night was released in December…

It's really just conjecture as to whether it's really a 'film noire' style, but it should be interesting nonetheless.

1) That's why I got confused; I thought there was going to be more after the Second Night.

2) It really looks that way at first glance with the costumes, but you know what genre also have guys in fedoras and girls in gowns? American westerns

I have a feeling with the "novel game" instead of "sound novel" if the amount of interaction will be greater. "Looking for a bodyguard"... I bet the game play will be like that of a dating sim :heh:

Yirba

2012-02-14, 21:13

The Second Night marks the end of Higanbana (for now, anyway).

Yeah, I do think there'll be more interactivity, but I doubt it'd be much like a dating sim.

RandomAvatarFan

2012-02-14, 21:38

The Second Night marks the end of Higanbana (for now, anyway).

Yeah, I do think there'll be more interactivity, but I doubt it'd be much like a dating sim.

Well, not storyline, but gameplay. I'm imagining it to be more like the mainstream games where the player has different "paths", one for each "bodyguard" maybe?

Well, until the 26th or it actually comes out, we won't know. It's only two weeks away... why does it feel like an eternity?

Yirba

2012-02-15, 08:56

Well, not storyline, but gameplay. I'm imagining it to be more like the mainstream games where the player has different "paths", one for each "bodyguard" maybe?

Well, until the 26th or it actually comes out, we won't know. It's only two weeks away... why does it feel like an eternity?

I think the gameplay would be more like a regular visual novel with a branching story, than a dating sim which tend to be more about tracking statistics.

Anyway, Ryuukishi07 has made a new post on his blog. Seems to be mostly about the upcoming 07th Expansion Party, but he does talk about Rose Guns Days a bit:

(http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/clip.cgi)"]ローズガンズはガンガン執筆中です。
とりあえず、やっと５万字ってところかな？
早いペースでどんどん書いて、余裕を持って完成できたら素敵だな！
たまには、夏前に体験版を公開！　とかやってみたいです。

My Japanese is rubbish, but it seems that Ryuukishi07 has written 50,000 characters and is hoping to release a trial version of the game before Summer.

Snow_Storm

2012-02-16, 00:19

By "characters", I hope he meant words.

Yirba

2012-02-16, 12:22

Yeah, 50,000 kanji/kana/whatever characters. :p

RedKey

2012-02-16, 12:53

Making 50,000 actual story characters? Wouldn't put it past Ryukishi.

It's Friday! New characters:
http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/571.jpg

They look... well-endowed, indeed. :uhoh:

immblueversion

2012-02-17, 11:09

They look... well-endowed, indeed. :uhoh:

Oh lord, imagine if DEEN got their hands on them...

~Ayane~

2012-02-17, 11:59

Why does almost no one have eyes so far? :uhoh:

Yirba

2012-02-17, 16:10

Oh lord, imagine if DEEN got their hands on them...

Heh, they still need to finish off Umineko and hopefully adapt Higanbana… :p

Why does almost no one have eyes so far? :uhoh:

This isn't the final artwork. Ryuukishi07 will probably draw the characters properly closer to when he's finished writing the story.

RandomAvatarFan

2012-02-18, 21:53

Heh, they still need to finish off Umineko and hopefully adapt Higanbana… :p

I'm on the fence on this. If DEEN does any more of Ryukishi's works, they better do it correctly (or if they do any other adaption of anything for that matter) and give it love.

This isn't the final artwork. Ryuukishi07 will probably draw the characters properly closer to when he's finished writing the story.

Plus we've only seen a few out of the 50,000 characters. :P Hmm... actually wasn't Higurashi's main cast seven characters?

But even with the coloring, you can see that they aren't finished and shading still needs to be done. And gosh darn it, it looks pretty!

Except that girl on the right there... she's the culprit!

Gotta say though... I love that he's giving the female cast those long flowing gowns we all loved from Umineko! He should start his own fashion line!

HasuMasu

2012-02-19, 00:41

^ Start a fashion line? :uhoh:

WHEN THE TAILORS CRY :cool::heh:

Yirba

2012-02-19, 11:55

I'm on the fence on this. If DEEN does any more of Ryukishi's works, they better do it correctly (or if they do any other adaption of anything for that matter) and give it love.

I don't think DEEN gets as much credit as they deserve. I think their adaptation of Higurashi was quite good. Sure, they cut out a lot of important parts, but it's important to remember that anime is a visual medium. It wouldn't make sense to have long sections where not much happens. Otherwise you end up like Fate/zero episode one with characters just walking around and around in circles!

As for Umineko, the story is already incredibly difficult to adapt into visual form. The VNs relied on the reader being able to read the characters' thoughts, which isn't always possible in an anime. Elements such as red truth is also difficult, and I think it's reasonable to have stuff like red text flying around. Of course, the Umineko is indeed filled with animation errors. But I'll give DEEN the benefit of the doubt and assume they were short on time and money. Indeed, good-quality anime is difficult to produce. It's quite common for anime to contain various errors in the TV broadcast. However, these errors are usually fixed in the DVD release, which was unfortunately not the case for Umineko.

Plus we've only seen a few out of the 50,000 characters. :P Hmm... actually wasn't Higurashi's main cast seven characters?

Hmmm... Keiichi, Rena, Mion, Shion, Rika, Satoko, Hanyuu... How about Ooishi, Tomitake, etc.? :p

RedKey

2012-02-19, 12:12

Elements such as red truth is also difficult, and I think it's reasonable to have stuff like red text flying around.

Aside from animation quality, I'd expected them to give at least the bare minimum of hints to solve the mystery - the red truths. The EP4 Tea Party was horribly mutilated, and so were many other occasions, like the EVA-Beatrice trial. But let's get back on track.

The latest character artwork clearly denoted a western style, but the very first girl he made public wears more of a kimono as I see her. What shall we make of it? (yes, it's wild speculation before Ryukishi's revelations on Feb 26th)

RandomAvatarFan

2012-02-20, 17:51

^ Start a fashion line?

WHEN THE TAILORS CRY

You know if it had the Anti-Rosa label, you'd buy it. And imagine if you could go to the premiere fashion place, and found a silk gown that resembles Beato's. I'm a guy and I'm drooling.

The latest character artwork clearly denoted a western style, but the very first girl he made public wears more of a kimono as I see her. What shall we make of it? (yes, it's wild speculation before Ryukishi's revelations on Feb 26th)
Let's start jumping to conclusions (Remember when Erika's portrait was released, and all the attempts at naming her?)

I hearby name kimono girl Kaitlyn, a girl with European descent whose parents moved and raised her in Japan, and then left to discover her heritage. She wears a kimono because she has only just arrived in the new setting from her village somewhere out in the countryside.

There. Problem solved.

Miraluka

2012-02-23, 13:42

I don't think DEEN gets as much credit as they deserve. I think their adaptation of Higurashi was quite good. Sure, they cut out a lot of important parts, but it's important to remember that anime is a visual medium. It wouldn't make sense to have long sections where not much happens. Otherwise you end up like Fate/zero episode one with characters just walking around and around in circles!
Sir, thats what is called talking heads.

Yirba

2012-02-23, 14:17

Sir, thats what is called talking heads.

Hmmm, I suppose. I don't think it quite suits Higurashi or Umineko, though.

Yirba

2012-02-24, 12:52

Another piece of concept art:

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/572.jpg

Further details on Rose Guns Days to be revealed in two days!

Miraluka

2012-02-24, 13:09

Chinesse Mafia, the quiet guy always gives the best fight.

RedKey

2012-02-26, 06:02

Here it comes! Website updated!!!
http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

The plot looks promising (not in the mood to translate everything, sorry, it basically tells of the meeting between Leo and Rose in ruined post-WW2 Japan, in the middle of rebuilding, in the spring of 1947).
Can't wait to see what Ryukishi07 can pull off with historical fiction.

edit: oh, and the trailer movie will be released on May 5th.

HasuMasu

2012-02-26, 06:54

Post-WWII Japan? Sign me up for this. :cool:

Mizuno

2012-02-26, 07:04

Male character's design is different from the norm, will take some getting used to..

Klashikari

2012-02-26, 09:43

RedKey

2012-02-26, 09:49

So that's why the speech pattern in the characters' descriptions sounded feminine... I suppose it's Rose talking then. Although it could very well be the kimono girl that was first introduced, too. Interesting.

minagoroshi-hen

2012-02-26, 09:57

So wait, will they use Ryu's character designs or Suzuki Jiro's?

Yirba

2012-02-26, 11:21

Since it has been "more or less" implied in the website, I guess I can give a detail Ryukishi told to us, for those who are still curious: Rose Gun Days primary protagonist will be female (and due how he insisted it, Higanbana case is not really counted).
So yeh, the perspective will be mainly from her, and not the male guy who has been introduced alongside.

Hmmm... That's interesting. I think in the case of Higanbana, we don't especially see the story through the eyes of Higanbana, as such. Rather, in each chapter, we experience the story through a different student.

So I'm curious as to how this will play into the story.

legomaple

2012-02-26, 17:29

Can anyone translate the japanese for a none japanese speaker please?^^ I want to know the details!

Leo_Otaku

2012-02-26, 18:00

Wow I really love the character design on his site! It is not generic or the usual.... >.> Very interested in this project :) *prays for Dai and ZTS music*

Joly

2012-02-26, 19:24

So wait, will they use Ryu's character designs or Suzuki Jiro's?

I think 07's just doing the sprite versions of the characters and photos. There's also two other character designers: Souichirou and Yaeko Ninagawa.

myopius

2012-02-26, 20:41

So if I understand the "story" section right... In our history, Germany surrendered in mid-1945 and Japan surrender months later to the US. But in Rose Guns Days, Japan had a natural disaster in 1944, maybe an earthquake, that ruined the entire archipelago, and made them unable to fight anymore, so China and the US occupied Japan. Within a few years, China and the US made Japan recover from the disaster, but due to the weird way that they "split up" Japan, there are "Chinatowns" and "Americatowns" all over Japan, and immigrants. And in spring of 1947, a "legendary man" met Rose and that's where everything began.

It seems to me like Ryuukishi wanted a semi-plausible historical context for Japan in which he could make things interesting according to the aspects of the world that his previous games have shown that he wants to explore. I understand why Ryuukishi's excited about his new setting, because I have high hopes for it just from hearing about it. BTW, I hope Ryuukishi goes with this other artist for his sprites.

Snow_Storm

2012-02-26, 20:53

edit: oh, and the trailer movie will be released on May 5th.

Ha! My birthday!

Anyway, is it me or does Leo look like kinda like Battler?

Also, here's hoping they ain't using R07's art for the sprites.

immblueversion

2012-02-27, 00:26

Ha! My birthday!

Anyway, is it me or does Leo look like kinda like Battler?

Also, here's hoping they ain't using R07's art for the sprites.

I really see no reason why they wouldn't.

nyoronyolo

2012-02-27, 03:00

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/world.htm
Just some musing here on the 3rd pic (the one next to <夜の女たち>) -- http://07th-expansion.net/rose/images/world_03.jpg
It's a picture taken in Paris: LCL logo - French bank, typical Parisian building and... bus station stop sign.
Now I understand why Ryukishi07 was in France last year, taking pictures for Rose Gun Days :heh:.

moichispa

2012-02-27, 11:16

Can anyone translate the japanese for a none japanese speaker please?^^ I want to know the details!

Check rose guns days tag on tumblr there are a few translations of the plot page.

Yirba

2012-02-27, 12:57

Ryuukishi07 has written two sevenths of the story. It will take place across a whole city with a large cast of characters.

Ronove has translated parts of the website:
World (http://ronove.tumblr.com/post/18358671990/rose-guns-days-world)
Story (http://ronove.tumblr.com/post/18358718221/rose-guns-days-story)

Rayneing

2012-02-27, 15:41

Oh man, this sounds so awesome. I absolutely love the setting he's crafted here, I can't wait to see it in action.

Tyabann

2012-02-27, 15:51

But in Rose Guns Days, Japan had a natural disaster in 1944, maybe an earthquake, that ruined the entire archipelago, and made them unable to fight anymore

I'm pretty sure he's just talking about the nukes and the firebombings. The China occupation is new though.

Rayneing

2012-02-27, 16:39

I'm pretty sure he's just talking about the nukes and the firebombings. The China occupation is new though.
It doesn't seem that way, since it heavily implies that the nuclear bombing did not happen.
There are men who say that if it wasn’t for the great disaster, we might have won the war, but that’s garbage.

If the war had continued like it did, the combined forces of the Americans and Chinese would have quickly started dropping their new bombs, and then there wouldn’t even be a trace of the islands of Japan left.

Tamekichi

2012-02-27, 18:43

I don't know if Ronove already did, but here are the character bios (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character.htm) translated:

Leo Shishigami

He's a legendary man, Leo.
In brawls, with guns, even runnin' his mouth, there's no one better.
However, it's his seduction of women that makes him famous.
He'd see a woman and put the moves on her right there without giving a thought to anyone.
I also have memories of those advances... hehe.
He smelled of danger, that charming man.
The war was supposed to have ended in 44. The repatriation ship went down on a sea mine, and after drifting ashore, he caused a misunderstanding, like he had wanted to get thrown in the internment camp. So he came back to Japan 3 years later, in 47.
His own country had completely changed, and it had certainly become a confusing place.
He left the repatriation office with no address, no place to go to.
It was then he chanced to meet Rose. That is surely where it all began.

"Can I give you a hand, young lady?"

Rose Haibara

She's the real founding Madame of Primavera, Rose.
However, at some point in 47, she was forced into the role of peacemaker for the Women of the Night.
She's kind and fair to everyone. She's very serious and doesn't doubt a thing, the sweetheart.
She lacked dignity before being a Madame, but everyone was in love with her for that reason.
As a woman, she was beautiful in a sweet way. As a Woman of the Night, well, maybe that disqualifies her.
Hers is a fleeting beauty, just like that of freshly fallen snow. As such, no man lays a finger on anyone.

"Hey! No fighting! Got it!?"

Joly

2012-02-27, 18:53

Thank you for the translations! :)

Tamekichi

2012-02-27, 19:12

Thank you for the translations! :)
No problem! Hopefully I can do more as they come out too. :D

Nigale86

2012-02-28, 00:44

Hi Guys When reading ANN Article on Rose Guns Days Yesterday I happened to go to the source site and found a very interesting image I'm not entirely sure but it looks like it could be from the Booklet that Ryukishi was talking about

It features quite a few new characters that havent been seen yet

It also looks as though the game might be a collaborration of styles from all four artists

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/otaku_blog/imgs/2/7/27010dbd.jpg

HasuMasu

2012-02-28, 05:20

This is getting better and better. :cool:

Tyabann

2012-02-28, 05:42

It also looks as though the game might be a collaborration of styles from all four artists

That would look very, very awful.

DaBackpack

2012-02-28, 20:29

That would look very, very awful.

I doubt it would literally be a combination of two art styles (yes that would be bad); I think the other pictures are just 'designs' that Ryukishi is basing his work off of.

Or maybe the fancier pictures would be for "cinematic" scenes? He did say he was releasing a trailer. Who knows.

Or MAYBE (I hope for this) it plays like Silent Hill, and in an alternate world the characters have sprites from the different artists :heh:

legomaple

2012-02-29, 09:02

I doubt it would literally be a combination of two art styles (yes that would be bad); I think the other pictures are just 'designs' that Ryukishi is basing his work off of.

Or maybe the fancier pictures would be for "cinematic" scenes? He did say he was releasing a trailer. Who knows.

Or MAYBE (I hope for this) it plays like Silent Hill, and in an alternate world the characters have sprites from the different artists :heh:

In the previous games he used the sprites from the game for all the videos. It could be the same again.

Yirba

2012-02-29, 15:04

I think the sprites will be drawn by Ryuukishi07, although some of the characters are designed by other people who drew some concept art.

And of course, we saw some wonderful portrait art of Beatrice, EVA-Beatrice and Erika in Umineko, so we could see art from other people in-game in a similar fashion.

Joly

2012-03-01, 11:35

The RGD site got updated with more character profile thumbnails and Richard Maiougi's (http://www.07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha3.htm) profile info.

immblueversion

2012-03-01, 11:51

According to those thumbnail icons for the updated website showing the characters, only two of them look like they were drawn by Ryukishi, both of them featured on his blog previously.

And another character, who seems to be designed by Jiro Suzuki, and looks exactly like Battler does in the Umineko EP2 manga (which Suzuki illustrated). In fact, when I link to the icons directly, the images are named with three letters, which likely stand in for the characters' names. Leo's icon is named "leo.png", Rose's is "ros.png", and Richard's is "ric.png". And the guy who looks like Battler? His is called "but.png". And "but" is the same name that comes up when images related to Battler in the Umineko games are extracted (likely due to a name mistransliteration that was never changed).

Here's his icon:

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/images/ico/but_m.png

Lastly, the character page has two icons with question marks, likely to hide certain characters. However, not only do they link to character pages, but they actually reveal the hidden characters' names (but just their names). Apparently they are called "Julie Hayashibara" (林原樹里) and "Madam Rose" (マダム・ローズ).

L in Hinamizawa

2012-03-01, 14:52

The new artwork looks awesome!
And thanks to everyone who is posting translations!!! :)

RedKey

2012-03-01, 15:13

Lastly, the character page has two icons with question marks, likely to hide certain characters. However, not only do they link to character pages, but they actually reveal the hidden characters' names (but just their names). Apparently they are called "Julie Hayashibara" (林原樹里) and "Madam Rose" (マダム・ローズ).

Is 樹里 (じゅり) an actual, legit Japanese name or does it fall under the Ushiromiya naming sense category?

Klashikari

2012-03-01, 15:27

Yes, it is a legit japanese name.

immblueversion

2012-03-01, 16:33

Is 樹里 (じゅり) an actual, legit Japanese name or does it fall under the Ushiromiya naming sense category?

In this case, it's both. Kind of like George Ushiromiya, where "Jouji" (譲治) is a legitimate Japanese name but translated like a Western name, "George".

Clicking the first "mystery character" link shows Julie's name in both Japanese and English. And unlike the other Japanese spellings of Western names of the characters shown so far, which are written in katakana, this character's Japanese name is written completely in kanji and in the "family name first, given name last" manner (林原樹里, Hayashibara Juri). However, the name written in English is "Julie Hayashibara". In other words, "Julie" is the official translation of the character's Japanese name; I didn't translate it as a Western name myself.

Tamekichi

2012-03-01, 20:20

Here's a translation of the new character bio:

Richard Maiougi

Although he's treasury guardian for the Primavera officers,
I wonder if that's enough to say he's a substantial leader.
If we assume Madame Rose is the emotional leader,
then he's the practical leader.
If he didn't exist, I would say Primavera couldn't have operated with as much cunning as they did.

He didn't know how to act as the ruthless moneylender, but
that wasn't so much a matter of practicality.
He concealed that warm heart in a mask
of feigned acrimony, just so associates would be sure to keep their promises.
Of course, that's the story if you return the borrowed money
to him by the settlement date. Otherwise...

"It seems you helped Madame.
... I will also extend my gratitude. Thank you."

Also: his last name is this (http://www.google.com/search?q=maiougi&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=GCBQT9PnBsqwiQLTsNG0Bg&biw=1280&bih=931&sei=GiBQT73JKILJiQLk9oy1Bg)

immblueversion

2012-03-02, 01:07

George Maiougi

Don't you mean Richard Maiougi?

Tamekichi

2012-03-02, 03:48

Don't you mean Richard Maiougi?

Haha yep, was paying too close attention to the convo I guess. :p

Editing away.

Kylon99

2012-03-04, 19:04

It sounds like rather than two nuclear bombs and the unconditional surrender of Japan, both China (??!?) and the US did a land invasion into Japan. Of course the fire bombs back then contributed to more of the levelling of the major cities than the nukes did, or any land invasion could have. (Lots of wooden structures.)

In any case, this China doesn't sound like the China we know from WW2, which was rather allied with the US at the time and later succumbed to a Communist revolution. I'm pretty sure Ryukishi does a lot of fact checking so it sounds like it's some kind of China with different circumstances.

I'm hoping maybe instead it resembles more that show Shanghai Bund from the 80's! (Or I suppose the recent remake in Mandarin.) Basically, gangsters in fedoras and tommy guns, but in Shanghai. 8) Rose Gun Days certainly has that kind of feel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5v_GzCeY2k (I can only find good videos of the remake.. sorry to all the Chow Yun Faat fans... 8) )

Yirba

2012-03-05, 09:58

Well, it's an "alternative reality" kinda thing... reminds me of the whole "kakera" concept. :p

Joly

2012-03-08, 12:41

New character page: Wayne Uedera (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha4.htm)

Tamekichi

2012-03-08, 19:56

Wayne Uedera

Many a heroic tale exists of this adviser, but back in the day,
he was merely a young kid.
Originally, he was Madame Rose's bodyguard.
No, I wonder if it'd more accurate to say he became her knight.
This juvenile delinquent boy with no relatives was found by Rose.
Feeling a sense of honor to repay her, it is said he devoted his life to her.
Now more than ever, he's a very dignified man,
but back then, it was the complete opposite. He'd follow her around, fumbling with his words.
He was a man with the sense of a starved stray dog.
It seems his fight with Leo was never resolved.
However, that may also have been the person he idolized the most.

"Why you... Get away from Ms. Rose!
You want to feel a world of hurt?!"

PS: His last name can mean "above the temple."

Metaler

2012-03-10, 03:59

New character page: Wayne Uedera (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha4.htm)

Looks a bit too contemporary for a story set in the 40s.

Tamekichi

2012-03-10, 15:35

Looks a bit too contemporary for a story set in the 40s.
I thought the same thing, but perhaps it will be jumping from that time period to the present as both Higurashi and Umineko did in the past. If it's any indication from the character and setting descriptions, the speaker is someone looking back on the past from sometime in the future.

immblueversion

2012-03-15, 11:26

Meet Cyrus Saimura (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha5.htm), folks.

Tamekichi

2012-03-15, 19:23

Cyrus Saimura

Originally, he was Richard's friend
and bodyguard. But since Richard
became a Primavera leader, Cyrus also
devoted himself to the organization.

Returning as a hero from the front lines, his strength and skill with
firearms was exceptional. Although always in the shadow of Leo's legends,
if it weren't for Cyrus, I doubt we would have won against
the early resistance.

Frightening at first glance,
His unexpected shyness makes him an interesting man.
Since Richard was by no means a person who could even
seem to have a coldhearted opinion, he considers the
existence of Cyrus, a man he can talk to in good humor, precious.

"Gahahaha!
Everybody's so weak, eh?
This isn't enough to eat at all!"

Also, I edited the last two with translations of their little dialogue snippets.

Leo_Otaku

2012-03-18, 14:52

I love Wayne his design is very awesome an I love his bio too! I wonder if he is from the future XD

RedKey

2012-03-21, 12:15

A thought just crossed my mind: do you think the game will still be in 640x480 or have greater resolution? Latest NScripter should even support hd iirc.

Joly

2012-03-23, 02:11

And next character page is up again: Stella Maiougi (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha6.htm).

Ithekro

2012-03-23, 02:33

Nice cleavage. Looks like she has a tatoo on her leg.

RedKey

2012-03-23, 03:26

I love her bottom right expression. Is it just me or her description sounds a bit... lascivious? :heh:

Tamekichi

2012-03-23, 13:22

I love her bottom right expression. Is it just me or her description sounds a bit... lascivious? :heh:

You might be spot on there. Here's a translation.

Stella Maiougi

Even being Richard's younger sister,
she's the most popular girl at Club Primavera.
Everyone boasted that as long as you paid up,
you could experienced heaven upon her bed.

Pheromones so irresistible, they're bewitching.
Sly and determined, the tough representative
of the woman of the night district.
Her greatest achievement is the time she broke down
the stationed troop's top brass. Also a well
known face in Chinatown, her bed-top
diplomacy is Primavera's elegant weapon.

She has a large entourage due to her popularity,
though that means she has many rivals as well.

"Hey...
I wonder if you won't grant my request...
Hmm? Pleeeaaase~♪?

Miraluka

2012-03-23, 23:05

Meet Cyrus Saimura (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha5.htm), folks.
OMG! Is Heat Guy J!!! :heh:

Oh... Stella is that kind of woman :heh:.

Toony

2012-03-24, 02:41

The guy coming on 4/6 looks like Battler in a military suit.

Pokaru

2012-03-24, 03:05

Oh yeah, you're right. Ryukishi07 seems to like that kind of hairstyle. I'm more curious about the girl on 30/3 though.

Joly

2012-03-24, 13:10

Thanks again for providing translations Tamekichi!

Someone posted a link to this (http://twitpic.com/photos/kaoru_ls) and it has some photos of the Rose Guns Days characters with their names. Could someone read the ones in kanji? ;; :heh: And the guy that looks like Battler? ...His name is the same... (バトラー)

Toony

2012-03-24, 15:20

His name IS the same. Hahaha oh boy...

Oh and Stella would be a change of the end in Bernkastel.

legomaple

2012-03-25, 10:52

Keriaku

2012-03-25, 15:59

I'm pumped for info on the music!

Joly

2012-03-29, 13:20

Meryl Tanashi (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha7.htm) - new character update! ... Her family name is written the same way as Tanashi Miyoko from Higurashi. (It probably doesn't mean much though and they could just be teasing old fans with familiar names and appearances :heh:)

RedKey

2012-03-29, 14:27

So it's a loli tsundere this time? I'm in. Although I'm still fairly uncomfortable with the whole Club Primavera setting... it somewhat feels like Aiyoku no Eustia all over again :heh:
That said, I crave info about the soundtrack... given 07th Expansion's precedents, it will be godlike.

Tamekichi

2012-03-30, 12:51

Here's a translation! Hope you're all enjoying them! :D

Meryl Tanashi

She was as much an attraction to Club Primavera as Stella was.
But instead of bewitching, she was a lively drinker,
tremendously popular among the boozers and drunks.

Her child-like appearance was the complete opposite of her "older sister" disposition.
Very good at looking after others, she loved to instigate fights
for the sake of the younger girls. She'd ridicule and squabble with them, then dowse her troubles in alcohol. A gorgeous flower of the night. But she probably
couldn't have been doing all that if it she wasn't drinking so much.
When she's sober, she puts on a very lonely face, and asks many a question to Rose.

"Hey honey, we better stop soon. Any more, and even Meryl Tanashi won't be able to handle this!"

Joly

2012-03-31, 11:16

I'm enjoying them! I haven't been too hyped up about the novel lately, but Meryl sounds like a pretty interesting character.

The 07th expansion diary was updated today with this image:
http://www.07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/575.jpg

...It looks like they really are combining art styles...?

Rayneing

2012-03-31, 11:26

Hey, that says Ushiromiya Kinzo (右代宮金蔵)! He really did look like his grandfather, hahaha.

RedKey

2012-03-31, 12:27

Ushiromiya Kinzo:
"That's right. Alright, from today, you'll be called Genji."

^that screenshot just made my day

Rayneing

2012-03-31, 12:38

The origins of Genji finally revealed? I wasn't expecting that from Rose Guns Days of all things. It seems kind of weird to have that in a work focusing on a mostly different batch of characters, set in an alternate universe where World War 2 ends in completely different fashion.

RedKey

2012-03-31, 12:42

I think that falls under the "April Fools" category. It's not something we should read too much into.
Though I do wonder if that will really be the Rose Guns game interface.

LyricalAura

2012-03-31, 13:43

I don't care if it's a prank, Kinzo now looks like that in my headcanon.

Toony

2012-03-31, 15:43

The prequel to end all prequels

Yirba

2012-03-31, 17:00

Huh? It's going to use an ADV style as opposed to an NVL style?

Joly

2012-03-31, 17:11

Bah. I forgot it was April 1st in Japan already... (I'm still a day behind here.)

TW25

2012-03-31, 18:38

Last year on April 1st, Higanbana was announced and the website was updated. Because the same thing has happened this year with Rose Guns Days, I don't think it's a joke. Especially since the diary entry associated with the picture doesn't say anything ridiculous.

Personally, I think a Kinzo/Genji story is plausible. Just because WW2 ended differently in this world doesn't mean that the events before that have to be drastically different. Therefore Kinzo from Umineko can exist, just as an alternate version where his future will play out differently.

RedKey

2012-03-31, 18:45

If you ask me, even if Kinzo and Genji will really be in RGD it would sound more like an Easter Egg than something to be taken seriously. It's like putting Keiichi on Rokkenjima by saying 'Hey, if he lives in Hinamizawa in 1983 he could very well take a trip to Rokkenjima in 1986!'

It's true that we still don't really know if the various settings of the Ryukishiverse are connected (mainly because of our beloved troll witches), but this sounds way forced. Thus, I still think it's a prank.

Edit:
今回のエイプリルフール画像は如何でしたでしょうか！
And here's the April Fools message. We'll get to know more about that character in five days.

legomaple

2012-04-01, 18:00

If you ask me, even if Kinzo and Genji will really be in RGD it would sound more like an Easter Egg than something to be taken seriously. It's like putting Keiichi on Rokkenjima by saying 'Hey, if he lives in Hinamizawa in 1983 he could very well take a trip to Rokkenjima in 1986!'

It's true that we still don't really know if the various settings of the Ryukishiverse are connected (mainly because of our beloved troll witches), but this sounds way forced. Thus, I still think it's a prank.

Edit:

And here's the April Fools message. We'll get to know more about that character in five days.

what does it say?

Joly

2012-04-01, 23:40

It's just saying the Kinzo Ushiromiya screenshot is an April Fools Day joke. And like RedKey said, the actual bio for that character will be revealed on 4/6.

Yirba

2012-04-05, 11:13

Turns out that "Battler" is actually called Philip Butler…

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha8.htm

moichispa

2012-04-05, 14:32

Not exactly, butler is not written in capital letters so It must be his occupation. So all these Battler Ronove yaoi had a hidden meaning after all.

It seems he is just half-Japanese and, a sommelier? His description looks strange. And so Ronove like. We should wait for a better translation of his profile but It looks really interesting. At the magazine scans he appeared apart from the rest of characters too.

Rayneing

2012-04-05, 14:45

Uh, no one's surname is written with a capital letter at the start on the site, Butler could easily still be his surname. Though, I wonder what the kanji after the "Batora" katakana mean.

TW25

2012-04-05, 14:52

The kanji is for the title of Captain or Lieutenant.

Tamekichi

2012-04-07, 11:50

Here's a translation for the new character, there was a little more I was unsure about, including what 23番市 is.

Captain Philip Butler

I wonder just how many times this lecherous "breast connoisseur,"
a Captain in the garrisoned US armed forces, saved Primavera.
His mother being Japanese, he spoke Japanese fluently,
and, we being native Japanese, he showed great respect to us when we would get in contact.
If any burdensome troubles arose out of City #23, he could be counted on to resolve a large number of them.
Of course, we supplied him ample hush money, although only after allowing him him to spend a few glorious nights
with some of the more popular, unmarried girls.

Well, I guess he was also sympathetic. Even even if he was only an officer of middle rank.
As well, his was a world where one could not need to drink.

"I'm Philip Butler, Officer, United States Army.
If you have a complaint, you can drop by the garrison headquarters at any time..."

RedKey

2012-04-07, 12:13

Butler

"breast connoisseur,"

I see what he did there.

moichispa

2012-04-07, 12:44

Pervert Characters are getting older in every work

And yeah Butler seems to be his surname. I got confused with the double occidental name.

Yirba

2012-04-08, 05:41

Hmmm, so all the "Japanese" names are written in personal name, family name order? Interesting...

xBTAx

2012-04-08, 22:51

If he truly is another "breast sommelier", though...

Tamekichi

2012-04-12, 18:03

Here a translation of the newest character update (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha9.htm). His dialogue on the right is in Chinese, so I asked a Taiwanese friend of mine to translate it for me.

Lee MeiJiu

He was, in those days, the young leader of the Golden Dragons,
the Chinese Mafia group that controls City 22
and the very northern part of City 23.
There's a large Chinatown in the Northern part of City 23,
and their influence extends there as well.

If you were talking about the underworld of City 23,
I bet it'd be pretty difficult to overlook the Golden Dragons.
City 22's the homeland. As such, they were always trying to
gain control of the City 23 harbor. And he was in the vanguard of it all.
Having no relatives, he made a reputation as a capable hitman, then
climbed the corporate ladder up to management in what seemed like a flash.

"Everyone, out. I want to talk to her, alone."

moichispa

2012-04-13, 07:32

So this time we have random Chinese besides (probably) random English.

It will be harder to read at release time. Just Japanese knowledge or Atlas may not be enough.

Yirba

2012-04-13, 09:33

Oh, I'm sure all the text will be in Japanese. This game is for the Japanese market, after all.

Tamekichi

2012-04-19, 18:04

New character (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha10.htm)

Amanda Amamiya

Until Stella became the big attraction, Amanda was
Club Primavera's Number One girl.
By all rights, Amanda should have become Madame.
But the women of the night are a suspicious bunch.
As a result of a disagreement between several of the factions,
the greatest common divisor, Rose, was elected,
so Amanda began going around behind the scenes.

It's not hard to imagine that until Rose sprouted
any self-awareness, Amanda was a
great support for her as the new Madame.
How can I make it so the women of the night survive?
The two women were always thinking about this in earnest.

"...if that's the case,
even if it's impossible, I should be the Madame."

Tamekichi

2012-05-01, 18:31

No one noticed a new character (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha11.htm)!

Keireiji Souhei

An influential man in a large group of repatriation soldiers that frequent a bar called "Bar Nobushi",
I wonder if that's how we should introduce him.
As a commissioned officer, he commanded a large
group of soldiers, fighting in the southern jungle.
His reputation for leading the roughest men out on the front lines
was spreading to a great number of repatriation soldiers.
After the country was defeated, and the soldiers came back, and
no one extended any welcome to them, much less a job.
He said that he wanted to accept and care for all of the soldiers,
believing each and every one of them to be, without a doubt, worthy of respect.

"How can I say it... you been fucking showing up more lately.
Therefore, I like you."

moichispa

2012-05-01, 18:44

It seems people attention to this title is fading a bit. Or maybe they need more sexy women to get attention. Not sure of sure about what is the next character :heh:

I noticed the the last characters (the ones with question marks) was already names 林原樹里 (Julie hayashibara) and マダム・ジャンタ. Also these characters are named as character_naz1.htm and character_naz2.htm instead of the usual character_cha1.htm

There is going to be some new material of RGD at 07expansion event this week so we might get something new soon on the official page.

Yirba

2012-05-01, 19:14

After the initial announcement and the reveal of some of the details about the story, there hasn't really been that much new information. Well, the characters drawn by Ryuukishi07 will be revealed in a couple of weeks.

I was wondering what 'naz' in the filenames could mean… Nazi? Anyway, I'm curious to know what's so special about these characters.

Yeah, the 07th Expansion Storming Party will be held soon. I hear a trailer for the game will be released then. Should be interesting.

moichispa

2012-05-01, 20:07

I think that Nazi would be plausible. We have seen Americans and Chinese already but there wasn't any German or Italian character. We don't know exactly all details of the war outcome on the story so it still is possible.

But there is a little problem about the last 2 characters. On the diary section there are images of more characters. 3 woman and one guy(besides the bodyguards like characters behind the guys). So some of them can't not be included on the character page.

I'm starting to wonder how many characters there is really going to be because now it is sure that there are more than 16.

Toony

2012-05-01, 21:50

Yeah I think it's mainly because the current state of affairs has been more or less the same right now.

We at least get to see how impressive Ryukishi07's kyarakutaa dezain skills are.

THOSE SUITS

RedKey

2012-05-02, 13:01

I'm starting to wonder how many characters there is really going to be because now it is sure that there are more than 16.

It reminds me of the Umineko 'it's getting a little crowded in here' meme :heh:
Ryukishi just can't help but create a lot of characters.

Yirba

2012-05-02, 15:54

I think it's cool how in Umineko, things are paced in such a way that even though there are loads of characters, it doesn't become overwhelming.

I mean, imagine what it would've been like if all these characters had been there right from the beginning of the story. :p

Qilin

2012-05-03, 00:35

This seems like an interesting find. If nothing else, this should serve as a change of pace after Umineko and Higurashi. For now, it doesn't look like this will have much supernatural elements to it, but considering Ryukishi's previous works, there may very well still be.

Anyway, I'll be looking forward to this title for now and hope that some translation group picks this up when it comes out.

Oh, and is it just me or does the art style jump from one character to another? Will the inconsistent character designs show up in the game proper itself, I wonder?

Yirba

2012-05-03, 12:24

New character: Miguel kurashiki
http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha12.htm

This seems like an interesting find. If nothing else, this should serve as a change of pace after Umineko and Higurashi. For now, it doesn't look like this will have much supernatural elements to it, but considering Ryukishi's previous works, there may very well still be.

Anyway, I'll be looking forward to this title for now and hope that some translation group picks this up when it comes out.

Oh, and is it just me or does the art style jump from one character to another? Will the inconsistent character designs show up in the game proper itself, I wonder?

The characters were designed by three different artists (one of them being Ryuukishi07). Therefore their different art styles are are reflected in the drawings. We don't know what the game will actually look like yet, but I'm guessing that the characters will remain that way.

Oh, I'm pretty sure a translation group will pick this up.

TW25

2012-05-03, 16:01

I was wondering what 'naz' in the filenames could mean… Nazi? Anyway, I'm curious to know what's so special about these characters.

I assumed it was 'nazo' as in Mystery Character 1 and Mystery Character 2.

Yirba

2012-05-03, 16:35

Ah yes, that's probably more likely actually.

moichispa

2012-05-03, 16:40

So new character seems to be a moe-phsyco-crossdreser. I like it. And his name in in Spanish. That's not very typical for this setting.

zeniselv

2012-05-03, 16:49

So new character seems to be a moe-phsyco-crossdreser. I like it. And his name in in Spanish. That's not very typical for this setting.

it could also be portuguese.

Qilin

2012-05-03, 20:59

The characters were designed by three different artists (one of them being Ryuukishi07). Therefore their different art styles are are reflected in the drawings. We don't know what the game will actually look like yet, but I'm guessing that the characters will remain that way.

Oh, I'm pretty sure a translation group will pick this up.
That's too bad.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that the character designs will be a step up compared to the stuff in Umineko, but is it really so hard to come up with a consistent art style for everything? No matter how I think of it, it's a rather weird call to make. Anyway, that won't stop me from wanting to read this since the setting seems interesting enough.

I'll be looking forward to translations for this when it comes out. Thanks.

Yirba

2012-05-04, 16:34

I think it's a conscious decision to have three different art styles. Perhaps each art style is used for a certain group of characters?

Nigale86

2012-05-06, 20:00

I Agree with Yirba I was apprehensive at the start too cause Ryukishi07's Style is quite unique but check out these colored images I think they did a excellent job of blending the styles http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3kn4tH7e31roehtq.jpg

Nigale86

2012-05-06, 20:03

For me for some reason it feels nostalgic but it might be the quality of the images but I think the colors look a little muted see what you think http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3kn5sfSca1roehtq.jpg

I've also heard here http://strongwind2121.blog93.fc2.com/but this is just with google translate that the Rose Guns Days PV Video that was shown at the 07th Expansion Party on Saturday is going online sometime this week

Qilin

2012-05-06, 23:30

Nigale86

2012-05-07, 00:08

Joly

2012-05-07, 02:49

I love seeing the colored character designs, even Ryukishi07's. I don't think his own coloring style works too well with his drawings. His work usually looks great when colored by someone else. I remember one of the Higurashi books had some art done by him, but colored by another artist... and it was a very nice combination.

Also looking forward to the PV :D

Bern-san

2012-05-07, 14:21

Great images! Makes me so excited!
Although I expected Wayne to have yellowish hair instead of brown.

Tamekichi

2012-05-07, 19:05

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/clip.cgi

Blog Post 580

Google Translate again

But it says something about the Rose Guns Days PV being Released on Friday May 11th

Which make sense because that the usual day for character updates as well
Indeed, he says that the PV will be uploaded for the public this Friday, along with sort of having the same reaction we are to the colored versions of the designs: that they really bring a sense of unity, since they are all a similar style of coloring.

Anyways, here's a translation of last Friday's new character (http://07th-expansion.net/rose/character_cha12.htm), who seems like he'll be a lot of fun:

Miguel Kurashiki

Generally speaking, this man is insane.
Sometimes, repatriation soldiers come back
with bankrupt personalities, due to their harsh experiences on the battlefield.
I wonder if he's the representative for those crazy guys.

He's a simple minded, cold hearted, ruthlessly dangerous man.
He keeps company with women, but appears to be entirely without mercy.
If he didn't exist, Alfredo would have promptly taken control of
City 23, there's no doubt about that.
In those days, next to Alfredo, he was said to the most dangerous
man in the City 23 Underworld, although he's
probably the only one who hasn't realized it.

"I just don't understand these complicated matters.
Maybe it's because I'm suuuch a dunce! Teehee!"

Auria

2012-05-10, 10:12

The pv is out :3 no in-game-footage, but a nice introduction nonetheless. The English seems to be quite good as well.

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Klashikari

2012-05-10, 10:15

As promised, 07th Expansion has released the PV of RoseGunsDays, right on midnight like ougon patches.

It really didn't take long for me to like that op score.
Much more than the pictures we got recently, the HD version of the video really flesh out quite well the characters' design, more so their vibrant colors (heck, if I didn't know beforehand, I would have HARD time to realize that the likes of Alfred Akagi was in fact designed by Ryukishi). I wonder if they are also going for better resolution with RGD.

For those who are wondering, we helped 07th Expansion regarding the english translation of the quotes for the characters, as Ryukishi wanted westerner to enjoy the PV as well.
(Nope, no engrish for those who were expecting that).

[edit]: meh, too slow.

RedKey

2012-05-10, 10:38

I wonder if they are also going for better resolution with RGD.

I hope this so much. Something like 1280x720 would be a fresh change of pace from the usual 640x480 lo-res graphics used until now.
It's also very nice to see proper English grammar :heh: kudos to you guys!

LyricalAura

2012-05-10, 10:43

Based on the last two characters being labeled differently and the way the other characters have been introduced, I'm guessing that the framing story will be Jeanne Amakawa getting interviewed by Julie Hayashibara for a news piece, and Julie will tell her all about the history of Primavera.

EDIT:
I can't make out a lot of the kanji, but the Japanese introductions in the PV confirm that Jeanne and Julie are both from the 21st century, and Jeanne is the narrator. She also seems to be the head of the Japanese mafia, among other things.

momobunny

2012-05-10, 12:12

Wow I loved the PV, I definitely can't wait to see more of this. :3

Yirba

2012-05-10, 12:15

I love the PV… makes me really excited about this game.

It's great that Witch Hunt were able to help translate the text.

As for the resolution, as far as I know NScripter supports a maximum resolution of 800x600, so they'd have to use a different engine if they wanted a higher resolution than that.

Yes, ONScripter can scale the game to whatever resolution you want, but it can't re-scale the game while it's running. So if the resolution was 1280x720, the game wouldn't appear correctly on displays with a resolution lower than that (1024x768 is still extremely common). Also, some people like playing in window mode (as opposed to full screen), and a high resolution would make that impractical.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to Rose Guns Days. I hear there might be a trial version? Can't wait to find out more about this game. :)

st_nick5

2012-05-10, 17:11

Dunno if I've missed it, but do we know of any release date for this game?

Yirba

2012-05-10, 19:43

I think the only release date given has been 2012.

Slay

2012-05-13, 13:08

The PV has awakened different emotions in me, seriously
Music, atmosphere, and characters ... all wonderful
But, there were some characters that were not shown.

PS: I've made a quick spanish translation of the PV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4yKSnDsBXU

DoktorFunk

2012-05-16, 16:24

Yeah, the music is really cool. Its both classical and jazzy. I could have swore I was hearing Mozart's 40th Symphony near the beginning of the PV. Most of the characters look unique and interesting... except Philip Butler kind of reminds me of a character from another one of his stories >_>

Leo_Otaku

2012-05-17, 18:01

Looks great :) I can't wait for the game to arrive!

moichispa

2012-05-17, 19:09

Claudia and Alfred info is out.

And Alfred still seems done by Ryukishi. That hand style is unique

Yirba

2012-05-17, 19:17

I'm thinking that Jeanne Amakawa is also drawn by Ryuukishi07. The art style is similar.

Klashikari

2012-05-17, 19:28

Since we are talking about that kind of stuff, putting the artists and their respective characters:

Souichirou (Umineko: Episode 4): Rose, Richard, Stella, Meryl, Keireiji, Miguel, Julie
Suzuki Jirou (Higurashi: Tatarigoroshi-hen, Umineko: Episode 2): Leo, Philip, Lee
Ninagawa Yaiko (Monokoke): Wayne, Cyrus, Amanda
Ryukishi07: Claudia, Alfred, Jeanne

Souichirou got the spotlight, and I color me quite pleased with that, especially how this guy managed to design rose that way, and still pull some badass chars like Richard and Keireiji.
And good thing Suzuki only designed guys, because he really has trouble with girls (I swear, Tatarigoroshi really irked me...)

Toony

2012-05-18, 00:49

I happen to be on the Tatarigoroshi and Episode 2 manga as well. Guess I'll be seeing a lot of Suzuki Jirou in my near/distant future.

Bern-san

2012-05-19, 08:53

It's great that R07 thought about fans outside Japan and included a translation in the PV. Thanks both to him and you guys for doing it:D
I'm also satisfied with the amount of (hot) male cast, happy fangirl is happy.

While going through tumbril I found lots of stuff about Rose Guns Days:

- It was originally proposed to call the novel: “Guns and Rose”.

- RGD will consist of 7 chapters, i don’t know if they refer to the amount of “seasons” or would be the total that will contain the first novel.

- During this month we will know more about the history of the novel, hopefully with the release of a demo.

- Butler’s information shows that his birthday is on 07/15.
(info and images from beatingravity's tumblr)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5a8ifuB1qbzpclo1_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5a8ifuB1qbzpclo2_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5a8ifuB1qbzpclo3_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5a8ifuB1qbzpclo4_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5cuFgqY1qbzpclo1_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5cuFgqY1qbzpclo2_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5cuFgqY1qbzpclo3_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5cuFgqY1qbzpclo4_1280.jpg

And moar images from tumblr (most of them taken from pixiv)
I think this is a sketch...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3yrk4h4P01rtlx1go1_500.jpg

Don't know what they say but the image alone is quite funny
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m46zu5PfID1qjlxxwo1_500.gif

By Hanokage, Puella Magi Madoka Magica’s mangaka.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1irrgatzo1qjugdxo1_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3vbf8lNEp1qjugdxo1_500.png
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3teajKLCc1qjlxxwo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1and4hkQH1qjugdxo1_500.png
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m05p2buxJE1robw4ao1_500.jpg

This is actually my favorite one (cookies if someone makes an avatar out of it)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m05p8cAojO1robw4ao1_500.jpg

Drifloon

2012-05-20, 10:13

Butler's birthday is 7/15? Oooh boy...

L in Hinamizawa

2012-05-20, 16:42

Butler's birthday is 7/15? Oooh boy...

Why do you say that?

RedKey

2012-05-20, 16:43

Why do you say that?

It's the same day as Ushiromiya Battler's :heh:

L in Hinamizawa

2012-05-20, 18:58

It's the same day as Ushiromiya Battler's :heh:

Oh wow! :D
Thanks!!!

Yirba

2012-05-21, 09:24

Yeah, it's pretty much confirmed that Butler is a reference to Battler by now… :p

moichispa

2012-05-21, 11:22

But these references between 07thexpansion works are funny and a way to compensate fans who has been following older works.

Being it something as big as a character or a little joke as the Hawai trip.

Toony

2012-05-22, 05:17

I happened to play Umineko first so George's TOMITAKE FLASH shirt was completely ignored by me.

moichispa

2012-05-22, 09:54

New post at official diary.

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/clip.cgi

It seems to talk about Epitamine, Rose Guns days and Summer comiket.

Klashikari

2012-05-22, 10:43

Ryukishi made quite some interesting comments (rough summary, and I might have made some mistakes, so if anyone finds something odd to correct, please be my guest):

1) Announcing he will take part of the Epitanime event (France)

2) Stating he won't be attending the comiket, but Rose Guns Days will be available.

3) Thanks to his friends/companions, the work load drastically decreased for him, as he only has to take care of scenario and picture.

4) Ryukishi would like to go back to his starting point: making a non electronic game. And he mentions that 07th expansion actually started with a trading card game (Dai Nana Han").

5) His new ambition: attending the Game Market event (a famous non electronic game event), which has a stark difference with comiket.

6) His dream is to make his own game which would be enjoyed by many people during "offline meetings", although he will still work hard on novels. That being said, he is quite pumped for such challenge.

7) Speaking of which, he met BT during a original card event, and he did joke about himself writing novels (look where he went now :heh:)

8) He confesses that he is nearly 40 years old (what the?), growing a beard, but also losing some hair as result. Since he will be no longer in his thirties, he want to take on a challenge even more.

9) He feels like it would be impossible to finish Rose Gun first story by the end of May, but he wants to be done quickly with it.

10) Chiming about some delusions regarding his dream of his own board game, but heh.

Yirba

2012-05-22, 11:22

Interesting…

I actually thought 07th Storming Party started out creating Leaf Fight trading cards… Hadn't heard of Dai Nana Han.

Anyway, I would be interested in seeing what sort of board game Ryuukishi07 wants to make. Of course, I'm not sure where I can import Japanese board games from, let alone doujin board games. :p

moichispa

2012-05-22, 11:33

huh? A non electronic table game? It seems interesting. (Even if our possibilities of knowing more about it would be reduced :heh:) It is really curious to hear about it in a time when most gaming entertainment is online. Meeting with friends under the same roof to play something sounds funny.

and 40 sounds plausible I remember the celebration of his 36th birthday at Rokkenjima years ago.

And yeah, Rose guns days is coming soon. Nice.

About importing it I guess than any doujin specialized shop will sold it. That man is already know and probably his past works have been of good profit for them so that shops will sold it somehow don't worry ^^

Yirba

2012-05-22, 13:52

and 40 sounds plausible I remember the celebration of his 36th birthday at Rokkenjima years ago.

Ryuukishi07 is currently 38. He'll turn 39 in November.

RedKey

2012-05-22, 14:24

Yeah he mentions he will be turning 40 in a little while in Umineko Hane too.
That aside, card and board games... now that's something I'd like to see 07th Expansion pull off. It piqued my interest.

Slay

2012-05-22, 22:00

Did you know characters such as Rena and Mion are originally from Leaf Fight?
Hope more news about Dai Nana Han.
Good luck in France, Ryukishi07!

Yirba

2012-05-23, 16:25

I couldn't remember Mion being a Leaf Fight character, but here are Rena cards:

http://i47.tinypic.com/25sof7o.jpghttp://i45.tinypic.com/2co65br.jpghttp://i47.tinypic.com/345yh5t.jpg

Slay

2012-05-23, 18:53

I couldn't remember Mion being a Leaf Fight character, but here's a Rena card:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041030094008im_/http://07th-expansion.net/Graphic/Orika/Magical/DNRena.JPG

Yes, I heard there's a Mion too.

Look at this girl. Her name is Serika.
Could she be a "proto-rika"?
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af348/Slay-biohazard/serika.jpg

moichispa

2012-05-26, 15:47

So the last characters have been revelated.

It was so interesting to get every Friday a new characters :D

LyricalAura was right, Julie is from 21th Century and Jeanne seems to be one who tells the story.

Used Can

2012-05-27, 04:06

I really wonder what will the story be about. Just some kind of mafia story?
It certainly isn't part of the "When they Cry" series, and it doesn't seem like R07's typical suspense/horror story either.
I really don't know what to make out of this, but I think it is an interesting change of mood for R07's works. Though, I'd really like him to go back to suspense and horror.

Bern-san

2012-05-27, 08:33

Can somebody do a rough translation of the last 4 characters?
Well at least we have info about Julie and Jeanne going by moichispa's comment

Tamekichi

2012-05-27, 12:45

Can somebody do a rough translation of the last 4 characters?
Well at least we have info about Julie and Jeanne going by moichispa's comment

I can translate them either later today or tomorrow. Been slacking due to graduation. :p

moichispa

2012-05-27, 14:34

Sorry about not being able to translate it. My Japanese level is not very high and Ryukishi writing style is quite complicated. But somehow Jeanne seems easier, I wonder why.

I think I understand better the hard work that people who translated and is translating 07thexpansion works does. Thank you guys :heh:

Thanks for the translations Takemichi :D

Leo_Otaku

2012-05-27, 14:54

I wonder if there is time traveling on account that Wayne's attire seems way to 21st century XD

Yirba

2012-05-27, 15:51

I'm hearing that Witch Hunt will be translating Rose Guns Days? I take it that this is news from Epitanime, since I haven't heard them announce it online…

Klashikari

2012-05-27, 20:12

Yes, I've announced our plans to translate RGD, with a little surprise with it, although I can't disclose "this" yet.
Of course, whether or not we can keep the same pace we had with Umineko series will be determined by various factors, such like RGD itself, our personal lives etc.

Yirba

2012-05-28, 08:29

Nice… Also, if the "this" is what I think it is, that's great news!

Anyway, I can understand that the translation might take some time; I'll be patient.

Good luck to all of Witch Hunt. I look forward to playing the game… :-)

moichispa

2012-05-28, 12:56

Wow, thanks for translating. Take the time you need for it. we know that time is needed for quality and we all know that WH means quality. Don't forget to relax once on a while ok?

battle22

2012-05-30, 09:37

Oh my god WH!!!! I love youuu!!!! Thanks so much for translating this.

Tamekichi

2012-05-31, 13:38

Here's the last four bios. I included the Witch Hunt translations of the dialogue from the video because they're much better than I could do and WH is awesome. :p

The one person of all the women of the night that is a friend to Rose.
While everyone wears Western dresses, she's often seen being the only one wearing Japanese clothes.

Although her reserved manner seems out of place, she is a hard working woman of the night. If it had been a decent time, I'm sure things like the world of the night would never have become part of her life.
With all the woman living their lives in self-indulgence, she had a solid amount of savings in the bank, seemingly for her dream of having her own establishment someday.
This sort of diligence was not uncommon in Primavera during those days.

"I've had this dream
ever since I was a child."

He was part of the American mafia that was advancing on City 23.
He was their cruel and ruthless hit man.
However, he killed the American mob boss and took control of the
organization, then formed a plan to take control of City 23.
At the time, internal strife was weakening the mafia, but make no mistake,
there was also no more dangerous person in City 23 than him.
They needed a large amount of cash quick, to reconcile with the
organization back in America, so they were earning money with
considerably rough methods. Of course, they also had their eye on Club Primavera.

"Aha... I take it this is Primavera's answer, Miss Rose Haibara?

An aspiring young reporter from the Tokyo offices of the Ote Newspaper and the Hong Kong Daily, did I get it right?
A graduate of Tsinghua University. She's an extremely talented, quadrilingual woman, proficient in Chinese, Japanese, English, and French. She's learning ancient Japanese martial arts, and she's also an acting member of the Japanese-Chinese Culture Sports Exchange Youth Delegation.
But more importantly, she is probably the only unbiased reporter at either of those companies. An unbiased person in 21st century Tokyo, now that's something that's considerably hard to find nowadays, huh?

"I-It's a pleasure to meet you!
I'm Julie Hayashibara from the Daily Hong Kong News!"

And then there's me,
the Honorable President of "Spring Breeze," an Association for Japanese Patriots.
I'm also the chairman of the board for the Japanese Traditional Culture Preservation Society, and
the President of the Japanese People's Scholarship Society, among various other things I'm doing.
I suppose the general public has come to know me best by my title as the "Big Boss" of the Japanese Mafia.
Don't be frightened.
Is it your belief that I'm only nice to Japanese people?

"...hohoho.
would you be so kind as to indulge an old lady in tales of times past?"

Captain Bluebeard

2012-06-01, 14:17

Wait....Ryukishi isn't doing all of the art in this????? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
(I just died a little inside, but I think I'll be fine...)

Yirba

2012-06-01, 14:36

Ryukishi07 is only illustrating a few of the characters. I suppose it wouldn't make sense to exclusively use his drawings since it's not being marketed as a "sound novel".

-Kuroko-

2012-06-01, 15:12

Wait....Ryukishi isn't doing all of the art in this????? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
(I just died a little inside, but I think I'll be fine...)

Finally someone that shares my sorrow! I love R07 art, his character designs, facial expressions, everything! a 07th expansion novel without R07's drawing style it's just.. not the same.. everyone is happy about it but i'm mad and sad, when I read the afterword in Hane where R07 said he may stop drawing his novels.. I DID die a little inside..

RedKey

2012-06-01, 15:20

a 07th expansion novel without R07's drawing style

Calm down, it's not like he didn't draw anything... he did all the backgrounds and a few characters. He said he just asked Square Enix to introduce him to other artists to help with that boatload of work of his. Can't blame the poor man.

Yirba

2012-06-01, 15:38

he did all the backgrounds

Those are photos, though… :p

Leo_Otaku

2012-06-01, 22:33

Awesome I will have to get this game then now that there will be translation. I can't read enough Japanese at that level on my own. Can hardly wait!

A very good choice to use other artists! I'm overjoyed he is not doing the majority of the art. Everyone is not good at everything, but everyone is good at something. He does story best :)

Captain Bluebeard

2012-06-02, 05:08

Finally someone that shares my sorrow! I love R07 art, his character designs, facial expressions, everything! a 07th expansion novel without R07's drawing style it's just.. not the same.. everyone is happy about it but i'm mad and sad, when I read the afterword in Hane where R07 said he may stop drawing his novels.. I DID die a little inside..

My thoughts exactly, down to the last word. The large hands are part of the experience!

To be fair though, as much as I love his art, he probably had various factors to think of. After all, most people are thrown off by his art as it's not easy to get used to, which may end up hurting the sales (I know a bunch of people who never bothered with the Umineko VN because they stupidly were unable to get over the art).

Well, this isn't all bad I guess...He is drawing SOMETHING, at least. And personally, I loved the art in Umineko EP4 manga, but well, I wouldn't be sure so about Tatarigoroshi's and Umineko EP2 hideous art....

Bern-san

2012-06-02, 07:30

Thanks for the translations! (and congratulations for your graduation^^)

Hope I'm fast enough to get a copy, and really happy to know that it will get translated by you guys! Thank you sooooo much.
After it gets released I don't know if I will avoid or not spoilers...

I'm quite satisfied with the character designs since I love them all and thanks to the coloring it doesn't look that strange with 4 different artists. I didn't like Higurashi designs but grew quite fond of Umineko's

Yirba

2012-06-02, 11:55

I don't think people complaining about his artwork is the reason Ryukishi07 only drew some of the characters. He did say that it was to make the workload somewhat manageable.

If they were worried about sales figures, 07th Expansion would be a commercial company, not a small doujin group.

Captain Bluebeard

2012-06-02, 18:06

Yeah, sure, but they've actually come a long way since Higurashi's copyrighted BGMs, I figured it's only natural they'd start becoming a bit more proffesional (plus there are way too many people out there complaining about Ryukishi's art, and they're even making patches to change it with the PS3 one -which is actually MUUUUCH uglier in Higurashi's case- . The only reason he doesn't give an old rat's ass about them is that he seems to be having so much fun drawing it).

Yirba

2012-06-02, 19:23

Heh, if they made the games too professional, there'd be less reason to buy the (considerably more expensive) console ports. :p

Honestly though, I'm sure Ryukishi07 is aware of the criticism. And there's evidence that he's been trying to improve his drawing style. Still, I don't think he wants to disappoint those who think of his drawings as an integral part of the experience.

Leo_Otaku

2012-06-03, 14:56

Yirba

2012-06-03, 15:02

Where is this patch of the Higurashi art you speak of :) Sounds interesting

I don't think I should link to it, but you can probably find more information by searching for the terms "higurashi" and "patch" using your favourite search engine.

Essentially it replaces the game's art with the art from the PlayStation 2 version.

Leo_Otaku

2012-06-03, 15:09

For this game is it a series or just one game?

I don't think I should link to it, but you can probably find more information by searching for the terms "higurashi" and "patch" using your favourite search engine.

Essentially it replaces the game's art with the art from the PlayStation 2 version.

Thanks :) I'll try that I wonder if it works with the official translated one

RedKey

2012-06-03, 15:12

This is going to be a series. Seven games, in fact. And like Higurashi and Umineko, Episode 3 will contain 2 and 1 too and so on.

Yirba

2012-06-03, 15:17

For this game is it a series or just one game?

Only one game has been announced, and there's been no indication so far that it will be a series.

Thanks :) I'll try that I wonder if it works with the official translated one

It definitely works with the official one. I don't know of a patch which works with the original Japanese version.

This is going to be a series. Seven games, in fact. And like Higurashi and Umineko, Episode 3 will contain 2 and 1 too and so on.

Huh? Really? Does this come from Epitanime? I hadn't heard that…

Tamekichi

2012-06-04, 10:13

Thanks for the translations! (and congratulations for your graduation^^)
You're welcome! :D

RedKey

2012-06-04, 10:18

Huh? Really? Does this come from Epitanime?
That's right. Unless I completely misunderstood Ryukishi's words (my Japanese is not stellar, but I'm pretty sure he said that :heh:). Anyway, I'm sure summaries about Epitanime will come out soon enough.

Yirba

2012-06-04, 10:25

That's right. Unless I completely misunderstood Ryukishi's words (my Japanese is not stellar, but I'm pretty sure he said that :heh:). Anyway, I'm sure summaries about Epitanime will come out soon enough.

Ah, cool. A lot of people have written stuff about the Epitanime event on Tumblr, but I hadn't seen anything like that. Looking forward to the summaries. :)

TW25

2012-06-04, 15:36

Captain Bluebeard

2012-06-04, 18:21

This is going to be a series. Seven games, in fact. And like Higurashi and Umineko, Episode 3 will contain 2 and 1 too and so on.

Seven? Are you sure it's not Eight? (That Ryu will never cease surprising me...)

Where is this patch of the Higurashi art you speak of :) Sounds interesting

Just google 'tweaking higurashi', and you're there.

moichispa

2012-06-07, 17:23

World section has been updated.

東京都の分割統治 , チャイナタウン and 復員軍人たち have been added.

RedKey

2012-06-08, 09:59

The part about Rose Guns Days being a series was definitely talked about on Ryuukishi's blog as far back as January. (Entry 564)

There's also another entry where he speculates about how the series would be numbered (Higurashi - Chapter, Umineko - EP, Higanbana - Night) and his idea at that time was to use 'Season', but unless something was said at 07th Expansion Party or Epitanime, it is unknown if that is what he decided upon. (Entry 574)

Welp, I may be wrong then. Sorry. (at least I got the series thing right :heh:)

Anyway, on a more important note, Ryukishi said on his blog that
今回は、７月１日頃ころを目標もくひょうに、『ローズガンズデイズ』体験たいけん版ばんを発表しようと思いおもます！
Rose Guns Days trial will be released on July 1st!!!

Yirba

2012-06-08, 12:23

Oh, nice! I'll have to make do with automatic translation software for now, but I look forward to checking out the music, how the game operates, etc.

TW25

2012-06-09, 08:00

Looks like we're going to have to wait a little longer for the trial. In today's blog entry (583), he says the trial will be available at the fan event Endless Nine on July 1st and available online a few days after that.

Yirba

2012-06-19, 05:20

My Japanese is terrible, but here are a few things I managed to gleam from blog entry #584 (sorry if I get things wrong):

Rose Guns Days trial is nearly ready. Mastering is scheduled for tomorrow.
Ryukishi07 wants everyone around the world to play it (not sure if he's referring to the trial or the actual game).
Rose Guns Days uses ADV format instead of NVL format like 07th's previous games (see below for example).
Trial should give the player a better idea of what the world of Rose Guns Days is like.

Here's a screenshot that was posted for April Fools. So it's not from the actual game, but the ADV format will probably look similar to this:

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/Up_cg/575.jpg

RedKey

2012-06-19, 05:32

Ha-ah!! I called it! I knew that ADV style was not just a joke :heh: so so so so hyped for the trial.

st_nick5

2012-06-19, 08:06

Is anyone going to translate the trial? I'm getting really hyped for this game.

Yirba

2012-06-19, 08:46

It's also worth noting that that screenshot uses 640x480, so it's doubtful the game will be any different.

As for translation, Witch Hunt will be translating the full game, but there's no word on whether they'll translate the trial as well. Of course, they could start translating when the trial is released, and then they'd have less work to do when the full game is released. But they might be busy with their personal lives, so it's understandable if they choose not to start translating straight away.

There's also automatic translation if you're impatient, of course…