Saint Seiya Omega

[Goty]

lol there are some spoilers from Archange that says Hyoga get frezeed by Tokisada :heh:

Actually, that spoiler (unconfirmed) says that the new televimagazine has a picture of Hyoga freezing Tokisada, not the other way around.
The other supposed pic shows Shun fighting a rank 2 named Surtr, who has some sort of special defense.

What is confirmed about ep 78 is:

Shaina, Geki and other minor Saints stay behind keeping Pallasites soldiers from entering the castle. Inside the castle, the Saints are perplexed by its complex layout. Ikki and Integra ignore the others and go their separate ways, quickly disappearing. Europa shows up before them and introduces the Saints to four different paths, named Vanaheimr, Niflheim, Dvergr and Alfheimr.

The paths' names seem to be hints to who is at the end of each one.
Anyone trying to guess how the teams will split? It's a fun exercise.

[Kanon]

My guesses:Team 1: Seiya, Kouga, Subaru, Harbinger
Team 2: Shiryu, Ryuho, Haruto; later joined by Integra
Team 3: Shun, Eden, Fudo; later joined by Ikki
Team 4: Hyouga, Yuna, Soma, Kiki

Athena will probably go with team 1. Soma and Haruto might be switched depending on whether Tokisada will return.

[Miraluka]

Aquarius cloth confirmed for Hyoga vs Tokisada episode.

Gallia sends an illusionist to deal with Ikki and Integra by showing t beloved people ones from their past.

Even Lymnades Kasa had a hard time trying to figure out Ikki's weakness so I guess this illusionist did his homework.

[Kanon]

The spoilers aren't confirmed yet actually (not from the usual blogger). Let's wait until the scans comes out.

[ghstwrld]

GUH

When is the good sis Saint Yuna going to have relevance and impact again?

She's been getting mostly nothing but DUST!

;__;

[Key Board]

Yuna's just another (female) saint now
blame the S2 production team
Actually, even Kouga feels less relevant now

[JackRydden224]

Yuna's just another (female) saint now
blame the S2 production team
Actually, even Kouga feels less relevant now

Actually nobody is relevant anymore. The show lost all focus for weeks now.

[hamazura]

everyone is irrelevant, even our legendaries role is to show off as fanservice to old fans.
too many character to focus on.
if sso want to be good series again, they should do like 'the usual saint seiya'
kidnap saori, freeze everyone except our main chara, and fucking save athena with time limit against OP enemy :heh:

[Goty]

Aquarius cloth confirmed for Hyoga vs Tokisada episode.

Gallia sends an illusionist to deal with Ikki and Integra by showing t beloved people ones from their past.

Even Lymnades Kasa had a hard time trying to figure out Ikki's weakness so I guess this illusionist did his homework.

That spoiler was fake. The real deal was Shun vs the new guy and Hyoga freezing Tokisada:

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/444/xsmy.jpg

everyone is irrelevant, even our legendaries role is to show off as fanservice to old fans.

Seriously, already? They barely joined the battle. :heh:
Ikki's episode could easily end up as mere fanservice but the harsh way he used to teach them a lesson made it worth, proves he's still Ikki.

I agree that the cast is too big now, but that's pretty much how any shonen is these days.

Anyway, they were fighting a war in an open area, so naturally the focus would be all over the place (that's how war arcs go, isn't it? people who keep up with OP, naruto, bleach know what i'm talking about). I'm expecting things to seriously downsize now.

[Key Board]

Actually nobody is relevant anymore. The show lost all focus for weeks now.

at least, we got to see Ikki again
but yeah, I know what you mean..

everyone is irrelevant, even our legendaries role is to show off as fanservice to old fans.
too many character to focus on.
if sso want to be good series again, they should do like 'the usual saint seiya'
kidnap saori, freeze everyone except our main chara, and fucking save athena with time limit against OP enemy :heh:

Now that I think of it, SS0 1st season followed this formula too. It also helped that Mars actually had some personality.

Yeah, there's not much tension right now. Especially when EVERYONE is joining the last dungeon raid.
I expect Chronos? to do something terrible that will incapacitate/kill most of the cast
Then maybe we get a timeskip and the next season? Do they have enough budget for that?

[Galaxian]

Tamashii Nation 2013 revealed the Sagittarius New Cloth SCM...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/cf6cc8433938796213d82f9abf5094e5/tumblr_mviwr5Jxb11rjqx46o1_500.jpg

Hope it makes an appearance in the anime.

[Justin_Brett]

So did Tokisada get strong enough to actually wear his gold cloth without the curse?

[Kanon]

So did Tokisada get strong enough to actually wear his gold cloth without the curse?

He's wearing a chronotector in the pic. The Aquarius cloth is still on that wall with the rest of the unused cloths.

[j008]

Then maybe we get a timeskip and the next season? Do they have enough budget for that?

Are there plans for another season? I can't see this ending in the next few episodes.

[Miraluka]

The episode is airing.

Not bad:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/1454688_441669502601303_373654154_n.jpg

[ShiroiRyu]

OK GUYS !
It's in direct live ...
This OPENING is AWESOME !

God Athena versus God Pallas !
Fight, fight, fight ...
Subaru at the last boss for sure !>_<
Europe continue to speak to them ...
Not so much action on this episode but it's normal.

[Miraluka]

ZOMFG!

http://i.imgur.com/Fqfn8cCl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Fqfn8cC)

http://i.imgur.com/p3PdFtwl.jpg (http://imgur.com/p3PdFtw)

[ShiroiRyu]

Yep ...
Athena Exclamation ...
And the armor !

[Miraluka]

Can someone link the Opening?

[ShiroiRyu]

Not already on youtube ... but i hope in one hour max ...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/402099d6bf307914f6c1d76bcd536e79/tumblr_mvno907L1L1svhpylo2_1280.jpg

[Miraluka]

Aiacos, is that you!?

[Justin_Brett]

Not already on youtube ... but i hope in one hour max ...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/402099d6bf307914f6c1d76bcd536e79/tumblr_mvno907L1L1svhpylo2_1280.jpg

>Toei in charge of keeping twists secret

[Mad Pierrot]

Some pics

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/996663_499418393488478_1876222308_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1383774_499410013489316_2035873794_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1457742_499423543487963_1551314647_n.jpg

[Kanon]

ZOMFG!

http://i.imgur.com/Fqfn8cCl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Fqfn8cC)

It would have been even better if it had been Seiya, Shiryu and Hyoga. Unfortunately, there's no shot of Hyogya wearing the Aquarius cloth in the OP, so we can pretty much forget about that.

http://i.imgur.com/p3PdFtwl.jpg (http://imgur.com/p3PdFtw)

No more scarf :(
It looks pretty different from the myth cloth. It's better this way.

Some pics

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/996663_499418393488478_1876222308_n.jpg

My first thought was that it was a God cloth but it will probably be something like an Omega cloth instead. Will need a better screenshot to tell if it looks good.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1383774_499410013489316_2035873794_n.jpg

All that QUALITY.

No Subaru. That's as much confirmation as we needed he's the big bad.

[Miraluka]

Low quality audio but I find it good:
TqEyle0ZSMw

[ShiroiRyu]

5yHfOoPcXMc

I have this one ...
A little better ?

[Miraluka]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16q35l_nuevo-intro_shortfilms

This one is better.

[Kanon]

The opening is great. It's now my favorite of the three.

Jabu is in the OP! He's wearing a custom steel cloth like his friends.

The new Sagittarius cloth definitely looks better than the old one. I wonder what kind of explanation they're going to provide for its transformation, if any.

[Miraluka]

^ More cosmo burning Seiya?

[Kanon]

So the groups are:

1: Kouga, Soma, Yuna, Shun
2: Eden, Subaru, Haruto, Hyouga
3: Shiryu, Ryuho
4: Athena, Seiya, Kiki, Fudo, Harbinger (talk about overpowered)

My prediction were completely off :heh:

Ikki and Integra went on ahead, I don't think we know which road they took (haven't watch the full ep yet).

^ More cosmo burning Seiya?

Seiya is probably a little stronger than the other golds, but they should be roughly on the same level so there's no reason for only his cloth to evolve. Maybe he will reach the Omega too?

[Galaxian]

Low quality audio but I find it good:
TqEyle0ZSMw

5yHfOoPcXMc

I have this one ...
A little better ?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16q35l_nuevo-intro_shortfilms

This one is better.

Without the SaintSeiyaForos mark...

http://galaxianex.tumblr.com/post/65834379200/saint-seiya-omega-4th-opening-flashing-strings

;)

===

Episode 79 full preview: http://galaxianex.tumblr.com/post/65834880132/saint-seiya-omega-episode-79-full-preview-the

[Miraluka]

I had a good laugh reading that the final boss will be Suikyo who saw on his cloth that Next dimension will be animated on 2050 so hw went for Omega :heh:.

[hamazura]

wth! the final boss is subaru! wow! i cannot predict that at all! :heh:
sarcasm... :heh:

[Galaxian]

Pallasite Tokisada...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/ceee05ff337f997e3475d6f10421f70b/tumblr_mvnugnD8VK1rsx4y6o1_400.jpg

[houkoholic]

2: Eden, Subaru, Haruto, Hyouga

So Hyouga will fight Tokisada pretty much as predicted. Seeing how Omega is now just a massive fanservice to old fans, I think Tokisada will mess with Hyouga's mother complex as well as his bonds with his teachers/pal like Crystal Saint, Camus and Issac using his time manipulating powers etc like they always do (which would be the irony as Hyoga commented on Subaru's hot-headedness this episode as the reason for him to go with this team), then that will also give an excuse to "upgrade" Hyoga to become Aquarius gold saint with an updated cloth design (and plug two new cloth toys for Hyoga, yay!).


3: Shiryu, Ryuho

Looks like my predicition way before came true here. Also there's no way this team will not meet up with Paradox and Integra, which would be absolutely amusing just to watch Paradox's reaction. Paradox's going to go complete off the walls with her crazies.


Seiya is probably a little stronger than the other golds, but they should be roughly on the same level so there's no reason for only his cloth to evolve. Maybe he will reach the Omega too?

Legendary saint has plot hax armor upgrade. :heh:

[Endscape]

There's no way this team will not meet up with Paradox and Integra, which would be absolutely amusing just to watch Paradox's reaction. Paradox's going to go complete off the walls with her crazies.


Can you imagine Paradox's reaction if Shiryu praises Integra? I'm looking forward to it. :p

[Goty]

New song is ok, it's growing on me after watching it a few times, but animation-wise, new opening is probably my favorite. Nicely done.

Episode was pretty good too. Everyone is characterized really well (loved Hyoga calling Subaru "annoying" and Shiryu stopping Shun from helping the new generation).

Europa is easily the best Pallasite, always telling unwelcome truths, haha. Even Seiya was pissed off and went back to his hot blooded old self for a moment. I also liked how he questioned Atena's trust on a "maniac" like Harbinger, which was discussed here a while back (and she gave an explanation for it that seemed to be understood by Harbinger).

[hamazura]

haruto had grudge with tokisada
hyoga is aquarius saint just like tokisada
eden is.... just babysit subaru
and finally subaru... i really hoping tokisada will use time bending or whatever to subaru, then he will revert back to his old form (saturn? chronos?) or at least his memories so he will become fuzzy or anything when against pallas and reveal his true form (just like when kouga vs amor)

[Galaxian]

4th opening with English subs...

YI6vUziC2D8

[Justin_Brett]

Can you imagine Paradox's reaction if Shiryu praises Integra? I'm looking forward to it. :p

Considering how much the show likes humiliating Paradox now, he'll probably say her recreation of his move sucks.

[Miraluka]

http://i.imgur.com/JtpxVxC.gif (http://imgur.com/JtpxVxC)

[nishikinomaki]

o.O seiya and saori!

[Goty]

He even lost his cool when Europa was criticizing her. I think it's more than established at this point that Seiya and Saori have something going on offscreen. At least as far as toei is concerned.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

http://i.imgur.com/JtpxVxC.gif
Go Seiya! Tap that divine ass! :D And tap Shaina's too while you're at it :p. She's been waiting forever.

Ups... I forgot that Athena should be a virgin goddess. I wonder, will Saori lose her power after she "did it" with Seiya? :heh:

[Goty]

Fake summaries, scrap it.

[Justin_Brett]

>A girl coopting the series' most well known attack

That's probably going to make someone upset.

[Miraluka]

Not as long as Seiya never know about it... or Koga.


Btw, poor Titan. At first I thought Gallia, Hyperion and Egeon wanted to kill kim but it seems they're pitying Titan because he fell to a goddess' charm. They're not blaming him for it but feel they lost something important, an ally. Thats why I felt Hyperion's glance was giving off that vibe.

[Ozuma]

Pallas clearly knows how to use her loli charm. I guess she knows how to work it just as good (if not better) than Quess from Mobile Suit Gundam Char's Counterattack.

[Miraluka]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/1462875_10202338827976012_1279877107_n.jpg

[DXMichael]

It's been a while since I posted on this thread....at least...I think I posted on it XD

I'm guessing we can expect another 10-20 episodes before they all proceed to the next stage of the castle heh, but i'm actually not bothered about that, I want to see all the Non-Bronze Saints in action so I welcome it :p

I never watched the past Saint Seiya series although I have the gist on who everyone is, i'm sure if I was a die hard fan of the series i'd be in heaven with the older characters making several appearances, but I guess it has a nice add to it in a way that I know these guys are pure awesome :heh: I can't get enough of their screen time :p

[Goty]

Well, sorry about the previous summaries, those were fake. Fortunately the real deal is actually more interesting though.


November 17 - break

November 24
80 - The King of Time! Hyoga, the cold of the Absolute Zero!

Eden and Haruto progress in their way, until they meet a man who can manipulate time, and presents himself as the Pallasite rank 2 of"Deathwatch". The two of them and Subaru find themselves in trouble, but Cygnus Hyoga intervenes!

December 1
81 - Adorned with his Chronotector! One of the Four Heavenly Kings assaults!

"We must hurry before Pallas takes Saori-san's life". Kouga, Souma, Yuna, Shun make haste, but one of the Celestial Kings stands in their way. It is Aegaeon, owner of Juubakuraizanba!

December 8
82 - An extreme fighting spirit! Ikki vs Aegaeon!

A man who was once wounded by Aegaeon's sword, the Juubakuraizanba ... This is Phoenix Ikki. Kouga and the others find themselves in mortal danger facing the onslaught of Aegaeon...when Ikki makes his entrance.

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/82f547b8gw1eacdqe6xmhj20lc0sgn3y.jpg

[Miraluka]

http://i.imgur.com/y925VYOl.jpg (http://imgur.com/y925VYO)

[Key Board]

I'm sorry but which magazine is that scan from? I'm curious about other shows

[houkoholic]

Well, sorry about the previous summaries, those were fake. Fortunately the real deal is actually more interesting though.


November 17 - break

November 24
80 - The King of Time! Hyoga, the cold of the Absolute Zero!

Eden and Haruto progress in their way, until they meet a man who can manipulate time, and presents himself as the Pallasite rank 2 of"Deathwatch". The two of them and Subaru find themselves in trouble, but Cygnus Hyoga intervenes!

December 1
81 - Adorned with his Chronotector! One of the Four Heavenly Kings assaults!

"We must hurry before Pallas takes Saori-san's life". Kouga, Souma, Yuna, Shun make haste, but one of the Celestial Kings stands in their way. It is Aegaeon, owner of Juubakuraizanba!

December 8
82 - An extreme fighting spirit! Ikki vs Aegaeon!

A man who was once wounded by Aegaeon's sword, the Juubakuraizanba ... This is Phoenix Ikki. Kouga and the others find themselves in mortal danger facing the onslaught of Aegaeon...when Ikki makes his entrance.

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/82f547b8gw1eacdqe6xmhj20lc0sgn3y.jpg


So after all these years Shun still needs to be saved by Ikki, I guess something never changes? :heh:

[hamazura]

niiiiii-saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!
...
*ikki comes*
HOYOKU TENSOOOOO :heh:

[Miraluka]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1452136_634597039917288_439463290_n.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oLJpqBnl.png (http://imgur.com/oLJpqBn)

[ShiroiRyu]

Basical episode.
Just the end : I like Egeon.
And we saw Tokisada at the end.

[Galaxian]

Ep80's full previw: http://galaxianex.tumblr.com/post/66515412943/saint-seiya-omega-episode-80-full-preview-the

[AkitoW013]

No episode next week.
Yes ! Next episode is Tokisada vs Hyoga !

[Uribatake]

Compared to the first season, this show sure is getting pre-empted a lot this year. Assuming the second season will end in late March, it will clock at 47 episodes at most.

[Kanon]

79 was very good. I feared they would have Shun do everything but their victory over Surt was very much a team effort. And glad they didn't forget Shun has nebula stream/storm.

Looking forward to the next episode. Hyoga shouldn't have too much trouble against Tokisada unless the latter got powered up.

[Miraluka]

Trivia:
Compare Pallas' castle with the cattedrale di santa maria di fiore.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/1381315_195717163943518_741054348_n.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uTlt2a3l.png (http://imgur.com/uTlt2a3)

[Goty]

I liked how Shun calmly measured the Cosmo relflection ability, saying he was used to have his attacks bouncing back from when he fought Gods. That's how you portray a character with plenty of fighting experience, unlike the incompetent Shun from ND.

[Galaxian]

I liked how Shun calmly measured the Cosmo relflection ability, saying he was used to have his attacks bouncing back from when he fought Gods. That's how you portray a character with plenty of fighting experience, unlike the incompetent Shun from ND.

That's because Omega!Shun went to graduate school :heh:

[houkoholic]

I liked how Shun calmly measured the Cosmo relflection ability, saying he was used to have his attacks bouncing back from when he fought Gods. That's how you portray a character with plenty of fighting experience, unlike the incompetent Shun from ND.

Well to be fair ND takes place right after the Hades arc, so I'd be very worried that if after some 18+ years as in the case of Omega if Shun can't show some sort of maturity more fitting to his age and rank.

[Goty]

Haruto's voice actor Tatsuhisa Suzuki suffered (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-11-11/free-voice-actor-tatsuhisa-suzuki-hospitalized-after-parasitic-infection)from a serious infection, but it seems he's fine already and won't leave work.

Well to be fair ND takes place right after the Hades arc

Yeah, but that doesn't excuse Shun falling for the same things he fell in previous arcs..

[Miraluka]

Even Shiryu was a crybaby who still didn't get over Dohko's death. Even Touma the One Winged Angel felt disgusted at how he rejected Hyoga's pleas to help Seiya...:uhoh:
Touma: He thought a guy like you was his friend!!
Hear me well, you coward.
Everyone in the Sanctuary is doing their best to save Seiya. Despite I'm an enemy, I have respect for friendship. But you are the only one who cares for your own well being!! You should be ashamed of yourself!

A coward like you makes me want to throw up!!! DIE!

I have no time for such a boring man, it will only dirt my hands.

All this while punching Shiryu.

[Ozuma]

@Miraluka

It's because of shit liek that that I prefer Omega Bronze saints. I mean Yuna's mentor Pavlin bit the dust don't see her in a pissy or whiny mood. Hell she helped pull Kouga together in Gold saints arc.

Someone I talk to on another forum says that Kouga ain't worth Pegasus cloth cuz he didn't go to the Sanctuary to train like Seiya and earn it.

[Goty]

Even Shiryu was a crybaby who still didn't get over Dohko's death. Even Touma the One Winged Angel felt disgusted at how he rejected Hyoga's pleas to help Seiya...:uhoh:

All this while punching Shiryu.

Yeah, regarding Shiryu, i have issues with the way both him and Hyoga started losing their personalities after Poseidon - seriously, in Inferno and Elysios, they act almost like interchangeable identities. Then in ND Kurumada didn't seem eager to bring them back, and when he does, Shiryu acts out of character like that. Shiryu, who was always the wisest, the more bound by honor Bronze saint. Classic Shiryu wouldn't think twice to realize what Dohko would want him to do.

Kuru should take a lesson or two from the way the Legendary Saints are portrayed in Omega. I need to see more of Ikki (he is seriously tricky to handle without becoming obnoxious), but the other four are very satisfying so far.

[Ozuma]

@Goty

Word up. Shiryu is a wise mofo in Omega.

Ikki is a badass lovable douche

[Tetsu Aero]

Shiryu always wanted to settle down and plow the soil of rozan, he's said it several times. He was not out of character.

[Ozuma]

@Tetsu Aero

And Seiya wanted to find his sister. That doesn't mean he would neglect the wishes of Athena.

[Mad Pierrot]

Shiryu always wanted to settle down and plow the soil of rozan, he's said it several times. He was not out of character.

I found that chapter really weird because they treat Shiryu as a coward even though he was apparently blind, had to protect Shunrei and already lost a lot of blood in previous battles. Heck, even the guy who was trying to kill a comatose Seiya, Toma, treats him like a coward. It's like if the writer had double standards. It felt really wrong. But yeah, this is offtopic.

[houkoholic]

Yeah, but that doesn't excuse Shun falling for the same things he fell in previous arcs..

But this happens every single arc in the Kurumada manga that you get used to it because it's just... Kurumada's style. :heh: For example I mean after the Sanctuary Arc you would think that the 5 bronze saint don't get all surprised about light speed attacks anymore, but it still happens in Poseidon, Hades and ND over and over again....

[Goty]

@Tetsu Aero

And Seiya wanted to find his sister. That doesn't mean he would neglect the wishes of Athena.

This. He wouldn't just give up on everything and "plow the soil of Rozan" while there's an ongoing battle out there and friends in need. That's crazy. I'd expect him to settle down once things are peaceful for good.

But this happens every single arc in the Kurumada manga that you get used to it because it's just... Kurumada's style. :heh: For example I mean after the Sanctuary Arc you would think that the 5 bronze saint don't get all surprised about light speed attacks anymore, but it still happens in Poseidon, Hades and ND over and over again....

That's fair enough, but since there was a long time between the end of Hades (where they reached pretty much God-status) until Kurumada started ND, maybe it was natural to expect growth this time.

[Justin_Brett]

Seiya did say he wasn't interested in going along with Athena at first, since her dad basically abducted his sister to blackmail him.

And then that legitimate grievance got kind of forgotten.

[Ozuma]

@Justin Brett

Technically, Mitsumasa Kido is also Seiya's dad.

[Goty]

In the manga all kids training to become Saints were his biological sons, which i always found ridiculous. That's a plot point that was fortunately dropped in the anime version.:heh:

[Mad Pierrot]

@Justin Brett

Technically, Mitsumasa Kido is also Seiya's dad.

Also that, the original manga actually justifies Mitsumada sacrificing his 100 kids cos destiny. Well, the moral lessons have never been the series' strongest points.

[Goty]

Also that, the original manga actually justifies Mitsumada sacrificing his 100 kids cos destiny. Well, the moral lessons have never been the series' strongest points.

I don't know what's worse: the fact Mitsumasa was already father of God-knows-how-many when he became Athena's guardian..or how he presumably went around screwing women just to produce him potential Saints afterwards, since many kids were younger than Saori, including Seiya. :heh:

[Miraluka]

From what I got it seems Kido was a womanizer(hey, he was freaking rich) so he could have affair with whoever he wanted to(he picked each woman from different place to not raise suspicions over him), some of the women didn't know he was like that(smooth bastard) so those had affection for him but we never got to know about them besides Hyoga's mother who died by "accident" while traveling to Japan :rolleyes:.

[Ozuma]

Mitsumada knew how to really get around. ^^

[Galaxian]

I don't know what's worse: the fact Mitsumasa was already father of God-knows-how-many when he became Athena's guardian..or how he presumably went around screwing women just to produce him potential Saints afterwards, since many kids were younger than Saori, including Seiya. :heh:

Seiya is only a few months younger than Athena, that means he must have been conceived before Kido found her.

I guess the real reason why Kido was in Greece at that time was to find more women to sleep with :heh:

[Goty]

Seiya is only a few months younger than Athena, that means he must have been conceived before Kido found her.

Hm, i could swear Saori was 14.
Not that the ages weren't all absurd to begin, the scenes from their past are nonsensical if we believe Ikki is only 2 years older than Shun..:heh:

Another thing that always bothered me regarding the same matter was how Marin was apparently old enough to train little Seiya - she certainly didn't look like 10 when he started training!
Oh, and i love how the anime had 14 year-old Hyoga driving around Tokyo, not giving a shit.

[Mad Pierrot]

Probably Aiolos had the craziest age. He was only 14 years old yet he was already 1,8 m. Puberty was really nice with him.

[Hiroshi Amearai]

Probably Aiolos had the craziest age. He was only 14 years old yet he was already 1,8 m. Puberty was really nice with him.

And he talks about how he would leave it to the yound saints when he was so young himself. Also, Many gods were defeated by a bunch of underage kids :heh:

[n0m@n]

Werent the Gold Saints like 7 years old when they frst wore the gold cloth? The manga showed them wearing a god cloth so it was weird.....

[hamazura]

kurumada is so weird give that 13-14 absurd age nonsense.
just pretend that seiya.co is 17-18 years, and gold is 23+ :heh:

[Galaxian]

Hm, i could swear Saori was 14.
Not that the ages weren't all absurd to begin, the scenes from their past are nonsensical if we believe Ikki is only 2 years older than Shun..:heh:


Ikki was 15 (same as Eden), Shiryu and Hyoga were 14 (same as Souma), and Shun, Seiya, and Saori were 13 (same as Kouga, Yuna, Ryuho, Haruto, and Aria).


Werent the Gold Saints like 7 years old when they frst wore the gold cloth? The manga showed them wearing a god cloth so it was weird.....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4966ffb02a18a19888238ec136d8eba7/tumblr_muzls1zRwb1reov9bo1_500.png http://24.media.tumblr.com/f75181167dbd9ef73cc020aa55b5718b/tumblr_muzls1zRwb1reov9bo2_500.png

Mu, Aldebaran, Aioria, Shaka, Milo, and Camus were 7.
Deathmask, Shura, and Aphrodite were 9~10.
Aioria was 14.
Saga and Kanon were 15.

[Miraluka]

Wasn't Aioria 6 and Aioros 14?

[Galaxian]

Wasn't Aioria 6 and Aioros 14?

7, because he was 20 during the series which took place 13 years after.

[hamazura]

child abuse and violation, athena forcing underage children to stay at prison (temple) and always fight for her to death anytime anywhere :heh:

[Mad Pierrot]

child abuse and violation, athena forcing underage children to stay at prison (temple) and always fight for her to death anytime anywhere :heh:

What about women fighters being forbidden from showing their faces?

[Galaxian]

Full front view of the 1st Rank Chronotectors...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/345506b1a32d76fd33cfbd207cc8604c/tumblr_mwkfx7qlxq1rsx4y6o1_500.jpg

The way I see it is…

Aegaeon: Libra (the plates on the shoulders), Scorpio (the scorpion on the back), and Capricorn (the horns on the belt).

Galia: Cancer (the head-piece), Pisces (the shoulders), and Aquarius (the belt).

Hyperion: Leo (the lion on the chest), Aries (the horns on the belt), Taurus.

Titan: Sagittarius (the wings), Gemini (the neck and shoulders), and Virgo (the skirt-piece).

[Miraluka]

1. Titan
2. Gallia
3. Aegeon.
4. Hyperion.

Yeah, Hyperion is the most overdesigned so far.

[Birdway]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/1456633_1408934992676672_228158111_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/1460120_1408934902676681_1696917107_n.jpg

Meanwhile Saga...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1452130_1408934872676684_318123118_n.jpg

[hamazura]

lol saga :p

and hyperion cloth is sooo pinky gay (even shun and ikki's pink are better) :heh:

[omimon]

Ikki was 15 (same as Eden), Shiryu and Hyoga were 14 (same as Souma), and Shun, Seiya, and Saori were 13 (same as Kouga, Yuna, Ryuho, Haruto, and Aria).




http://25.media.tumblr.com/4966ffb02a18a19888238ec136d8eba7/tumblr_muzls1zRwb1reov9bo1_500.png http://24.media.tumblr.com/f75181167dbd9ef73cc020aa55b5718b/tumblr_muzls1zRwb1reov9bo2_500.png

Mu, Aldebaran, Aioria, Shaka, Milo, and Camus were 7.
Deathmask, Shura, and Aphrodite were 9~10.
Aioria was 14.
Saga and Kanon were 15.

There is no fucking way that Aldebaran was 7 in that picture.

Actually other than the 5 in front the back 4 DOES NOT look their age.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

There is no fucking way that Aldebaran was 7 in that picture.Crazy age aside, Aldebaran is supposed to have a big body. Not that it makes sense anyway.

Actually other than the 5 in front the back 4 DOES NOT look their age.Welcome to the Saint Seiya universe where Kurumada's weirdness reign supreme. :p

[hamazura]

There is no fucking way that Aldebaran was 7 in that picture.

Actually other than the 5 in front the back 4 DOES NOT look their age.

just relax and admit that kurumada sucks at giving age to character

[Miraluka]

Blame Toei. Kurumada's manga looks like brats while Toei made them look sometimes like characters from HnK.

BTW:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/1476661_1408934949343343_1788859259_n.jpg

[ShiroiRyu]

First part was meh ...
Second part like when Subaru showed some of his powers to Tokisada was pretty good.
Same for the totem of the 4 god armor. O_o
But Hyoga freezing Tokisada ...
Nope. :(

[Galaxian]

The First Clast Chronotectors...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/e78eabe4a92664d047290e0ab7592a5a/tumblr_mwqlejKZAB1rsx4y6o1_500.jpg http://31.media.tumblr.com/8d5c9d3f3e55d866164e38e0a807443e/tumblr_mwqlejKZAB1rsx4y6o2_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d798c23c442beae3a4edb0e65abf2328/tumblr_mwqlejKZAB1rsx4y6o3_500.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/d8e804812c6fcae977f8e039ccb39034/tumblr_mwqlejKZAB1rsx4y6o4_500.jpg

[Kanon]

Looks like Galaxian's early speculations about the Chronotectors were spot-on.

[Mad Pierrot]

just relax and admit that kurumada sucks at giving age to character

Yeah those ages are legit. They appeared in volume 13 in a character file. Probably the most confusing thing is that Marin has the same age, height, and weight as Seika. :twitch: Does this mean Marin is secretely a clone?

[Galaxian]

Yeah those ages are legit. They appeared in volume 13 in a character file. Probably the most confusing thing is that Marin has the same age, height, and weight as Seika. :twitch: Does this mean Marin is secretely a clone?

I'm sure at one point Marin and Seika were the same person, but then Kurumada decided to have them as separate characters. A lot of Saint Seiya was made up as Kurumada went along :heh:

[Galaxian]

Full preview: http://galaxianex.tumblr.com/post/67901051023/saint-seiya-omega-episode-81-full-preview

[Goty]

Blame Toei. Kurumada's manga looks like brats while Toei made them look sometimes like characters from HnK.

They did look younger in the manga, but not as young as they should. Obviously Kurumada came up with those ages to fit the shonen target audience.

Anyway, at least Toei revised the character designs from Asgard onwards so the Bronze Saints started looking shorter and more kiddish in the anime. Sometimes i wonder if they didn't realize the characters were supposed to be kids at first, when you remember scenes like Hyoga driving.

[Galaxian]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZzbNgYCEAAODUe.jpg:large

[Uribatake]

Anyway, at least Toei revised the character designs from Asgard onwards so the Bronze Saints started looking shorter and more kiddish in the anime. Sometimes i wonder if they didn't realize the characters were supposed to be kids at first, when you remember scenes like Hyoga driving.

That reminds me that when I was a kid watching the Sanctuary arc and came across some pictures showing Seiya and the other main characters wearing their v2 Clothes, I assumed they were their children in the future, because they looked younger to me. Little did I know that 17 years later Toei would actually produce a TV series about the next generation of Athena's Saints.

[Galaxian]

http://media.tumblr.com/367969958ebcc781adbb99484c4b77a6/tumblr_inline_mws8abITmY1r9d3n5.gif

http://media.tumblr.com/dfc08ccedefc9a01b2d97987db3ce6b8/tumblr_inline_mws8arwtFX1r9d3n5.gif

[Birdway]

https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1480580_10202024159738888_37562346_n.jpg

[n0m@n]

Wow, so First Class Parasite's Chronotectors are 3 times stronger than Gold Saints?
No wonder they look down on saints and the previous Gold Saints being a second class parasite.
Where's Ikki when you need him!? The saints will get stomped without him.

[Goty]

http://media.tumblr.com/dfc08ccedefc9a01b2d97987db3ce6b8/tumblr_inline_mws8arwtFX1r9d3n5.gif

That scene was pretty awesome. Hyoga freezing the atoms of Tokisada's attack was a fine way to show his current control over the Absolute Zero.

This episode was mostly predictable all around (it was obvious that the only way to stop an immortal would be freezing him forever), but i appreciated how they connected Tokisada's rescue to this new war's origins. It's also obvious at this point that the enemy is Cronos/Saturn, but the mystery of how and why he ended up becoming Subaru remains.

[Galaxian]

I said it a while back, my theory is that Ikki chased him into Subaru :heh:

I like that Hyoga doesn't even need to charge to reach absolute zero anymore. This episode makes it seem that absolute zero has pretty much become the default temperature for his attacks,

[Ozuma]

lol if Chronos took residence in Subaru because Ikki scared the shit out of him.

[Galaxian]

The video game Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers is out in the US.

[Ozuma]

@Galaxian

According to my pops the one I ordered from Asian whatever site for Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers will be here in a few days.

[Goty]

December's Tv Magazine scans:

http://i.imgur.com/QrSsqBL.jpg

Ikki vs Aegaeon and it seems Ryuho will be the first to awaken the Omega, facing Rhea.

(Note that those magazine drawings aren't always accurate indicatives of the actual events)

[Ozuma]

Remember when we were talking about what a bitch Shiryu is guys?

I'm talking to this one guy on another forum and he says Shiryu shouldn't be criticized for wanting to retire in Next Dimension.

Here he says:

Read properly dude, I know the whole Shunrei and Shiryu relationship is implied that they are together (I never call shunrei his lover since there has been no 100% confirmation in Next Dimension, but living together while raising a child pretty much says everything) I know that man. I never said they were like siblings for the last time.
Also it's not even close to be the same. Shiryu is a family man in Next Dimension, he has to provide for his girl and adopted infant (so judging by your reply, you probably think is okay to leave your woman and child by themselves to go blindlessly towards a dangerous quest with no way to ensure that they will be fine on their own, I asked you this question and didn't reply so I'm allowed to assume as much) with Kouga, Saori is athena and there's no time to be babysitting some kid who should already be able to take care of himself since he's a saint already.

Also dude shit-talks about Kouga to no end saying that he wouldn't last a minute in the Sanctuary where Seiya spent most his life. That and Kouga doesn't deserve the Pegasus cloth. Even though he attacked a god before Seiya bestowed the Pegasus cloth to him.

This has to be the weakest bit of the argument from him which we're having about Kouga:

Also a big problem with him, specially this season is that he needs to learn stuff that saints should already know (this actually applies to his team as well). He rarely uses his brain in fights unless someone tells him. In the original anime sure seiya did spam a lot, but that's not even his fault but most of the filler battles consisted in mostly doing this.

[Mad Pierrot]

I don't know about strength but I kind of agree with the Shiryu argument. Next Dimension poorly handled Shiryu's 20 page retirement. I was reading it with a friend and both were "What the heck is going on?"

Just imagine if Seiya focused on military men: Shiryu is a retired soldier who has served his country, suffered several wounds, he lost his general and even became disabled. Now he has to take care of people including a baby. Is not returning to the forces something only a "pussy" would do? Still, as we have mentioned before Kurumada is really bad with the moral lessons. He justified the sacrifice of 100 children.

[Galaxian]

So the magazine apparently confirms that the villain will be Chronos, Ikki snaps Aegaeon's sword in two (obviously), and Ryuho gets defeated by Rhea but when he sees Shiryu in danger, he awakens the Omega to help his father.

[Ozuma]

@Galaxian

lol that was talked about on the last page.

@Amaterasu
It isn't Mitsumada Kido's sacrifice of 100 orphans that pisses most people off its that shit with him and all those women he did. That has to be the most asinine element of the story.

Seiya also had a life besides being a Saint though he didn't abandon it to go find his sister Seika. He knew his priorities.

[Mad Pierrot]

Seiya also had a life besides being a Saint though he didn't abandon it to go find his sister Seika. He knew his priorities.

Seiya never stopped searching for his sister. The only reason he became associated with Saori in the first place was because he wanted help in finding her and even in the Hades arc the reason why he went to Sanctuary was to ask Marin about her identity. Heck, the final battle made it as Seiya's most important person was Seika. Then there is also Ikki who said lots of times he didn't care about Athena just his business and pointed it out.

[Ozuma]

@amaterasu4

The Seika sub-plot was terribly executed. Not only does she show up out of fucking nowhere at the end but it's only settled in which Seiya subsequently goes into a coma after being impaled by Hades blade.

The Poseidon arc he didn't leave Saori's side to do find Seika. Just goes to show he knows his duty as a Saint.

Also Ikki is nearly always paying attention to upcoming battles. So you can't compare the Next Dimension thing with Shiryu to Ikki.

[Miraluka]

Seiya couldn't just wake up of his coma and then go to find Seika.

Just when he wakes up he gets to know Saori just got into shit again.

[Goty]

So the magazine apparently confirms that the villain will be Chronos

I believe that was fake, it came with a different set of spoilers, one claiming Aegaeon's sword wasn't broken, and that Shun was shown alongside Ikki, which was disproved by the scan.

[Kanon]

December's Tv Magazine scans:

http://i.imgur.com/QrSsqBL.jpg

Ikki vs Aegaeon and it seems Ryuho will be the first to awaken the Omega, facing Rhea.

(Note that those magazine drawings aren't always accurate indicatives of the actual events)

He has to use the Omega against a rank 2 Pallasite? WTF? Unless Rhea is infinitely stronger than the previous enemies and on par with a rank 1 for some reason, that makes no sense. How about he tries to master the 7th sense first? The Kouga team clearly doesn't know how to use it otherwise they would have never had any trouble against the rank 3.

[Ozuma]

@Miraluka

Yeah I know that.

@Kanon

I wouldn't underestimate the rank-2 Pallasites. I mean even Seiya had difficulty against Europa.

[Kanon]

Europa strikes me as the strongest (and smartest) out of all of them though. On average, rank 2 are slightly weaker than Gold Saints, with a few of them being complete fodders like the one Kiki killed.

[Ozuma]

@Kanon

You mean Dione? That dude is a weakling. I mean the guy had difficutly taking on the Steel saints. Ah, now I remember the Rhea they're talking about. I at first thought they were talking about Rhea from mythology. :P

That guy has a healing factor so it makes sense that Ryuho may need to go Omega.

[Goty]

http://img.barks.jp/image/review/1000096741/COCX38357_w600.jpg

A Song Collection album will be released this December 25th, with new character songs by Tohru Furuya (Seiya), Hikaru Midorikawa (Kouga), Hiromi Tsuru (Pallas), Tatsuhisa Suzuki (Haruto), Tetsuya Kakihara (Ryuhou) and Shoko Nakagawa (Athena).

[musouka]

A Song Collection album will be released this December 25th, with new character songs by Tohru Furuya (Seiya), Hikaru Midorikawa (Kouga), Hiromi Tsuru (Pallas), Tatsuhisa Suzuki (Haruto), Tetsuya Kakihara (Ryuhou) and Shoko Nakagawa (Athena).

They're actually letting Furuya sing again? Hope he's learned something since Golden Heart.

[Galaxian]

Wish they had a song for Toru, Midorikawa, and Kakihara together. A Pegasus Saint trio :D

===

-LjWQsh4LYI

[Goty]

They're actually letting Furuya sing again? Hope he's learned something since Golden Heart.

Well, Furuya is a singer, or at least he thinks he is. :heh:
He even released his own albums, with tributes to famous characters he played (Seiya, Amuro Ray, Yamcha, Tuxedo Mask).

[ShiroiRyu]

Omega 81 : Not bad of a episode.
Really ... Egeon deserve his rank 1.
But Ikki is coming.

[Justin_Brett]

http://img.barks.jp/image/review/1000096741/COCX38357_w600.jpg

A Song Collection album will be released this December 25th, with new character songs by Tohru Furuya (Seiya), Hikaru Midorikawa (Kouga), Hiromi Tsuru (Pallas), Tatsuhisa Suzuki (Haruto), Tetsuya Kakihara (Ryuhou) and Shoko Nakagawa (Athena).

So does that mean she'll be fully powered by around that point, given the cover?

[Galaxian]

Full preview:

RUoS2NcwLXI

[hamazura]

super saiyan pose and aura is the best

[Miraluka]

http://i.imgur.com/6dSt0ful.jpg (http://imgur.com/6dSt0fu)

[Ozuma]

@Miraluka

On Shiryu in Next Dimension: If Seiya was in his spot and their positions were switched he wouldn't decide to retire. Remember in vol.2 chapter 7? Even after their brutal battle Seiya didn't give in to the pain inflicted on him in his fight with Shiryu and help to start his heart again. Seiya was like "Fuck this pain! I'm going to save you Shiryu!"

[Miraluka]

True, but that is what makes Seiya the hero of the series.


Btw, Internet is an interesting place:
http://i.imgur.com/dtifSlwl.jpg (http://imgur.com/dtifSlw)

[Ozuma]

lol @ this fanart that mocks Titan and Hyperion's convo's

https://24.media.tumblr.com/6c695ccc4912a192f4078a1c4781d8e4/tumblr_mx9cg7PLPG1r4161ao1_500.png

[Miraluka]

Or Titan's serious business while Aegeon is fighting :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/EMHnnpil.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SQVhyscl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tCFr4K0l.jpg

[Ozuma]

@Miraluka

When Titan was kissing her ass in ep 78 she definitely exceeded Mobile Suit Gundam Chars Counter Attack Quess's loli charm.

[Miraluka]

I don'tr remember that O.o

[Birdway]

Pachinko Saint Seiya:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqrO964-YYk

This based on the manga when Saga kills Shion.

EDIT:

Found this:
http://i.imgur.com/vIqbyD8l.png (http://imgur.com/vIqbyD8)

[Galaxian]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/1709019492ca1d17ef49d636bc876a19/tumblr_mxf2fsEopV1sfvplao1_500.jpg

[Miraluka]

That moment when you see Kaza without helmet...

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130504230949/saintseiya/es/images/e/e7/Kazamyth.jpg


Btw, Brave Soldiers:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1460203_673901555987210_1535816369_n.jpg

[Kanon]

^wow, I never knew what Caça looked like without his helmet. He's actually not all that ugly.

A new set of spoilers is out. Looks like...


We're gonna have Aquarius Hyoga in episode 86. Unfortunately, it's animated by Yashima so expect QUALITY.

[ShiroiRyu]

Pretty good episode.
The only bad part is : We now Ikki is not dead ...
But Egeon is dead.

[Goty]

^wow, I never knew what Caça looked like without his helmet. He's actually not all that ugly.

A new set of spoilers is out. Looks like...


We're gonna have Aquarius Hyoga in episode 86. Unfortunately, it's animated by Yashima so expect QUALITY.

Those spoilers were fake, they got the title and events of episode 83 all wrong. The staff, too.
I was doubtful already because there's the obligatory New Years' break and it's too soon for such detailed info up to episode 87..

Btw, this episode implied Shiryu and Ryuhou are following Gallia's path, and not Hyperion's as expected and those spoilers were saying. Were we fooled believing that was an obvious match up?
It makes sense if we consider that Hyperion seems to be the most loyal to "that person", and Subaru is going his way.

[Kanon]

It was around the right time for spoilers to come out so I thought they were real. My bad. I'll wait for scans before posting anything next time.

Regarding this week's episode...

Ikki managed to kill Aegaeon in a one-on-one fight. Boy does that make Genbu look bad. Does that mean the 1st ranks are not as strong as they were hyped to be, or is Ikki that much stronger than everybody else? I thought for sure Omega would be needed to beat them. If each legendaries takes care of the remaining 1st ranks, then what will be left for the young saints? Maybe Saturn will have his very own generals.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Ikki managed to kill Aegaeon in a one-on-one fight. Boy does that make Genbu look bad. Does that mean the 1st ranks are not as strong as they were hyped to be, or is Ikki that much stronger than everybody else? I thought for sure Omega would be needed to beat them. If each legendaries takes care of the remaining 1st ranks, then what will be left for the young saints? Maybe Saturn will have his very own generals.IMO in SSO S2, power consistency is pretty much kaput. And Genbu's death is more of a plot device to give Shiryu his golden cloth back instead of a genuine character-death (just like in Gundam SEED Destiny where Freedom Gundam got destroyed only to give Kira the Strike Freedom Gundam). Bottom line, any character here will win or lose when the plot dictates it with very little (if not zero) attention to power consistency.

[Galaxian]

Ep83 full preview:

Q8vtLyfwkTU

[Goty]

IMO in SSO S2, power consistency is pretty much kaput. And Genbu's death is more of a plot device to give Shiryu his golden cloth back instead of a genuine character-death. Bottom line, any character here will win or lose when the plot dictates it with very little (if not zero) attention to power consistency.

Ikki "sacrificed" himself to kill Aegaeon, they were both taken out at the same time, i don't see how that negates power consistency any more than any other Saint Seiya incarnation. Obviously the Legendary Saints are stronger than Genbu was, the other way around wouldn't make sense. Genbu didn't have years of actual fighting experience under his belt, he just came back to make up for Shiryu being out of comission.

Also, it's freaking Ikki. He always gets the job done one way or the other.
Bottom line, that's overreacting. Come back when Haruto defeats a 1st class. :heh:

If each legendaries takes care of the remaining 1st ranks, then what will be left for the young saints?

Don't forget Europa, he's clearly a major player here.

He seems to be planning something with the remains of Aegaeon's sword and is obviously following his own agenda.
I think this double K.O was a way to keep out a powerhouse like Ikki, but shonen logic dictates that the first one to go down is always the easier fight, so we'll see.

[Galaxian]

And then we get Shiryu struggling with a 2nd Rank... :heh:

[Ozuma]

@Galaxian

lol dude struggled like a mofo with the darkness Cosmo infection not surprised he wrestles fighting like a bitch with a 2nd class Pallasite.

Just goes to further show that 2nd rank Pallasite are no joke.

Remember guys: just because the old Saint Seiya Bronze's fought Poisedon, and Hades schmucks doesn't mean they're god tier. They don't have their Kamui's just their regular shit.

[houkoholic]

And then we get Shiryu struggling with a 2nd Rank... :heh:

My bet is that Shiryu is having a Goku moment like in the Cell Arc where Goku could have beaten Cell himself but he pulled back and wanted Gohan to fight -several EPs before he clearly stated to Shun the it would be easy for the old legendary saints to win and help the new bronze saints but then the new saints would not grow, Shiryu obviously wants Ryuho to grow and learn during this time they have together instead of him taking care of everything.

Also Shiryu didn't go naked in the preview - so he can't be getting serious. :D

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Bottom line, that's overreacting. Come back when Haruto defeats a 1st class. :heh:Oh, I didn't exclusively address Ikki's fight, but the overall SSO S2 like I said in my previous comment. Also, I seem to remember that Kouga and friends can't even scratch that Twin Scythe Pallasites at the sewer and pretty much got beaten by them, but shortly after, Subaru single-handedly kill them both at the same time with one strike after he got the Equuleus bronze cloth. After such impressive show of power, Subaru then return to his so-so self again in subsequent episodes. And that's just one example. Power consistency, where? :heh:

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk The Tormentor

Those scythe wielding Pallasites were 3rd class Pallasite's dude moreover, the cloth he had was pretty damn powerful when he got his hand on it. Plus, Subaru has the most unusual Cosmo out of all of them.

EDIT:

Also that episode was pretty much introductory for Subaru's debut as an Equeluus Saint.

Hell, Subaru's Cosmo brought Europa to his knees once when Kouga and the others fought him. If his power is as mysterious as it's foreshadowed than yeah I think you are overreacting.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

@Obelisk The Tormentor

Those scythe wielding Pallasites were 3rd class Pallasite's dude moreover, the cloth he had was pretty damn powerful when he got his hand on it. Plus, Subaru has the most unusual Cosmo out of all of them.If so, then why Kouga & co couldn't even scratch them aside from the plot demand it so?

Also that episode was pretty much introductory for Subaru's debut as an Equeluus Saint. Exactly. Since that is Equuleus Subaru's debut, he must look good in that episode no matter what the cost, including making Kouga and co look like incompetent jobbers in front of 3rd Class Pallasites.

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk ze Tormentor

It's more than just the plot too bro. Kouga, Yuna, Souma, Haruto,Eden and the rest of them were exhausted as fuck. Plus, their cloths were pretty damaged. Subaru was the only one with a cloth in-tact and not tired.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

That's what, five(?) powerful Bronze Saints being powerless in front of two 3rd class Pallasites who previously lost to Haruto and Steel Subaru. Also, didn't Kouga & co already had their rest in that underground shelter? So, I don't know about you, but I simply don't buy it.

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

Just because they're rested mentally and physically doesn't mean they're at peak condition. Some of them have problems cloth-wise, health-wise, strength-wise.

Also that rest they had in the underground place wasn't even that long.


EDIT:

Haruto and Subaru back when he was a Steel Saint were let off the hook because they had the upper hand due to strategies implemented.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

Just because they're rested mentally and physically doesn't mean they're at peak condition. Some of them have problems cloth-wise, health-wise, strength-wise.

Also that rest they had in the underground place wasn't even that long.

EDIT:
Haruto and Subaru back when he was a Steel Saint were let off the hook because they had the upper hand due to strategies implemented.I don't think this series is that well-thought out that the time of their rest matters (FYI, they rested twice in that underground shelter). Also, most of them except Haruto still has 60-70% of their cloths. You also forgot that the powerful Eden was perfectly fine and has no damage on his cloth. So that makes 1 powerful saint at his 90-100% + 4 saints at 60-70% + 1 saint at 30-40%. That should be more than enough to take care of those two 3rd Class Scythe Pallasites. But no..., the show had to nerve them all to give way to the super-amazingly-awesome Equuleus Subaru.

[hamazura]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

Just because they're rested mentally and physically doesn't mean they're at peak condition. Some of them have problems cloth-wise, health-wise, strength-wise.

Also that rest they had in the underground place wasn't even that long.


EDIT:

Haruto and Subaru back when he was a Steel Saint were let off the hook because they had the upper hand due to strategies implemented.

you are such a kouga.co fanboy.... just admit it that kouga.co is now an incompetent burden and useless bullying target in season 2.

omega season 2 is basically a show for legendary, our new bronzies is just fodder, and their role i believe is only to be bullied by pallasite and later will plot-armor win against saturn/subaru

[nishikinomaki]

i not gona said that if i was you that are rude talk. seiya save kouga many times and kouga save seiya from titan and pallas from repel arrow not only kouga Team got bullying even shun got bully by Egeon Class 1 pallasite even legendary saints had problems to even shiryu to. no body perfect

phoenix ikki said from Egeon thanks from kouga help that sword easy destroy by broke little damage from kouga. now kouga use his head now thanks for shun advise.

look like kouga team become true saints now for guidance from legendary saints.

[omimon]

Fact: Ikki is NOT dead. There is no way the producers have the balls to kill off one of the originals let alone fucking Ikki.

[Ozuma]

@hamazura

Good lord you sound like someone I argued with on another forum. -_-

It's already been made clear that the Pallasite's are different than the average opponents.

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

K that "Is not well thought out" is a conjecture bro. You have no proof to verify that statement.

Eden had never experienced fighting two 3rd class Pallasites at the same time. Once again, you're trying too hard to cherry pick at the details trying to find an error in power inconsistency.

Subaru's power is a wild card factor thus why they were all able to survive when Europa showed himself to Kouga, Souma, Ryuho and Eden.

@Omnimon

If they actually kill Ikki off. lol wow, you got guts Toei.

[hamazura]

well, saga mince him to atom level structure and he was like, rebirth infinite time :p

[Ozuma]

@hamazura

Him and Aegaeon's scuffle I'm calling what happened between him and Shaka happening again. If they did that whole montage with one of the phoenix feathers.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

K that "Is not well thought out" is a conjecture bro. You have no proof to verify that statement.By "not well-thought out" I meant this series doesn't go into full details about things. It's even pale in comparison to other shounen series like Naruto & Hunter x Hunter in terms of power definition and technique details.

Eden had never experienced fighting two 3rd class Pallasites at the same time. Once again, you're trying too hard to cherry pick at the details trying to find an error in power inconsistency.What's the difference if just in one episode before it, Eden can obliterate Thebe's ultimate Asteroid technique that made even Hati scared shitless and ran with his tail between his legs? :heh: Not to mention he disposed a 3rd-class Pallasite like Thebe easily like killing a rat. Now Eden suddenly cannot do anything against two 3rd-class Pallassites whose combination attack power is only a fragment of Thebe's ultimate asteroid. And you want me to believe that being consistent? Hell no. Oh, and what I said above is not "little details I cherry-pick". They're heavily featured in (if not the focus of) the episodes.

If you refuse to see inconsistency right before your eyes, that's your problem, not mine.

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

Okay, dude that's WAY messed up comparing Omega to Naruto. >_>

Why does it need to go into major details about things that should be obvious? It went into detail about the Seventh Sense and cloths. You're probably just not paying attention.

What's the difference if just in one episode before it, Eden can obliterate Thebe's ultimate Asteroid technique that made even Hati scared shitless and ran with his tail between his legs?

See and this is precisely why you don't understand what you're talking about.

Hati is in a difference class of strength and he knew his skills wouldn't stand up to Eden's. The two scythe wielders were too quick for him and the others to match-up against.

Just like there's a different level of strength among 2nd class Pallasites it's the same with 3rd class Pallasites.

I don't think you're even trying to understand it.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

Okay, dude that's WAY messed up comparing Omega to Naruto. >_>

Why does it need to go into major details about things that should be obvious? It went into detail about the Seventh Sense and cloths. You're probably just not paying attention.I didn't say it needs more details as this is a kid's show. But it would be nice if more details are added coz that means the writer is actually using more of his creativity.

Like, say, for example, a character in a shounen anime is attacking with fire, which one sounds more interesting?:
1. "He attacks with very hot fire"
2. "He attacks with fire which is above 6000 degree Celsius"

Same essence, different execution. SSO took the simpler first approach, while series like Hunter x Hunter took the more interesting and well-defined second approach.

Just in case you don't get it, the above are simplified examples. Don't take it literally.

Hati is in a difference class of strength and he knew his skills wouldn't stand up to Eden's. The two scythe wielders were too quick for him and the others to match-up against.

Just like there's a different level of strength among 2nd class Pallasites it's the same with 3rd class Pallasites.

I don't think you're even trying to understand it.Oh, they were too quick for him? Give me a proof or a line in the episode where it's said those twin's attack is quicker than what Eden is capable of aside from your own interpretation.

As for me, I have basis for saying Thebe's ultimate technique has waaaay more power then the combined scythe attack. You see, if Thebe's meteorite were to hit, it would clearly destroy that entire part/area of town down to the sewer. That's why Hati ran for his life just before Thebe's asteroid hits (he said so himself). Yet Eden is able to obliterate it. The Twins' attack, on the other hand, doesn't do that much damage to it's surroundings and they were in a confined sewer for god's sake. Yet, Eden can do nothing.

You can't be more obvious than this. If you still don't get it, I'll just stop now coz it's useless. You may have the last word or anything you wanna say.

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

lol seriously dude? I mean seriously?

The show really needs to describe the degree of heat and such? Oh wait, it did. In the fight with Hyoga he described the level of cold which he used, Dione described the abilities of his whip and etc.

Haruto is also clearly weary if he notes in the episode which they fight the twins "That technique is much more powerful than it was before."

Ryuho is missing his dragon shield, Kouga's cloth is beat up and same with Yuna and Souma. It's apparent Eden can't do much if his opponents are far too quick.

EDIT:

Eden didn't overwhelm the explosion and "beat it"

He pushed it back because Thebe couldn't handle the asteroid he brought down.

Another example of you not paying attention to the dialogue dude.

Hati specialized in his knife throwing, and having enhanced senses. He wasn't a top notch strength dude with super powerful techniques.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

lol seriously dude? I mean seriously?

The show really needs to describe the degree of heat and such? Oh wait, it did. In the fight with Hyoga he described the level of cold which he used, Dione described the abilities of his whip and etc.OMG, I just said "Just in case you don't get it, the above are simplified examples. Don't take it literally." in my previous post. Yet you actually still took it literally? :twitch: That's it, I've proved my point and I'm done. :cool:

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

You clearly want those meanings to be taken literally if you put it out at all.

Also you didn't make your point about power inconsistency if you neglected how powerful the twins were speed-wise and in terms of technique that made it difficulty for the tired Bronze's to use their moves.

Also you didn't pay attention to the dialogue that pointed out thatThebe couldn't control the humongous asteroid he brought down and made it easier to negate.

So yeah, no you didn't prove your point at all. You're running away dude.

[hamazura]

why this ozuma guy seems like really want to win the argument so badly? :heh:
its obvious that... yeah i dont want to continue this sentences :heh:

[AGear2Ax]

About the power levels...

The battle of Genbu, remember that he didn't finished his training. Also, He said that his dead was somehow written in the stars, he knew he must die for something greater to happen. Granted that it was a plot device to give Shiryu the libra cloth, but at least they put more meaning to it (it was the trigger for Athena finally going against Pallas).

The battle against the Scythe Twins... Anybody who pays attention should know that Subaru used the Equuleus Saint the second strongest attack right off the bat, unlike Koga and Co, who were using their regular attacks without burning their cosmo enough, given a lot more time they could surely defeat the twins without more problems.

And about Ikki... didn't that happen before? I'm pretty sure that thanks to the Phoeninx Cloth he re-spawns on Death Queen Island's Volcano :heh:

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

The battle against the Scythe Twins... Anybody who pays attention should know that Subaru used the Equuleus Saint the second strongest attack right off the bat, unlike Koga and Co, who were using their regular attacks without burning their cosmo enough, given a lot more time they could surely defeat the twins without more problems.Actually, the Subaru part is the least of the problem. It's the Eden, Kouga, and co that has a hard time with those twins that is the problem. Considering Eden's being perfectly fine and his attacks are fast lightning-based, him doing nothing for that period of time is just dumb and only function to stall time for Subaru to appear with his super-duper Equuleus technique. All that is, again, more dictated by plot (Equuleus debut FTW!) than a genuine established power-based fights. In comparison, you'll have no "debut must win & looks good"-rule in a better-written shounen series like the now-airing Hunter x Hunter. Ironically, both are pretty much meant for the same target audience.

[AGear2Ax]

Actually, the Subaru part is the least of the problem. It's the Eden, Kouga, and co that has a hard time with those twins that is the problem. Considering Eden's being perfectly fine and his attacks are fast lightning-based, him doing nothing for that period of time is just dumb and only function to stall time for Subaru to appear with his super-duper Equuleus technique. All that is, again, more dictated by plot (Equuleus debut FTW!) than a genuine established power-based fights. In comparison, you'll have no "debut must win & looks good"-rule in a better-written shounen series like the now-airing Hunter x Hunter. Ironically, both are pretty much meant for the same target audience.

Heh? But that isn't a standard thing on Saint Seiya? I mean: Saints attacks the enemy, enemy is unscratched and mocks the saints, saints burn their cosmo and do the same attack (sometimes a different attack) and this time it works defeating the enemy with one hit in most cases.

You know, I'll be more worried about their competence in battle that the thing about power levels consistency (which isn't that bad). Rememeber Surt's cosmo reflector? It was dumb to name the technique like that and shout its name for the enemies, and It was more dumb that Koga and Co didn't figure out the technique's weakness fast.

The battle with the scythe twins, yes, seeing Eden doing nothing was ridiculous and that was poorly written, but that doesn't mean that there's power level inconsistencies, the only thing it means is that the execution isn't very good. Like I said, given enough time, Koga and Co could have defeated the Scythe twins without more problems, but remember, they are dumb warriors and because of that they will always have some problems on their fights. And about Eden, who knows? He understimated the twins, or didn't want to destroy the sewers with his attack, again, it is more a issue about poor writing than about power level inconsistencies.

Just take a look of Hunter X Hunter, or Naruto like your previous examples. We have more knowledge about how the abilities and powers work on those worlds, and even better, we know what happens on the minds of the characters, unlike ss omega. I acknowledge the poor writing, but not the power levels consistency issue, as such thing cannot exist when we don't have enough information about them aside of: "you sense that huge cosmo?".

There will be power level inconsistencies if we are given a better explanation of them, we know the thoughts of the characters about them and those explanations contradicts one another, or things magically appear out of thin air.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

^ I'm glad you at least understand my comments and acknowledge how badly written SSO S2 is, unlike a certain other fella in the previous page who don't get my comments at all and act like SSO is a masterpiece of story-telling.

As for the power inconsistencies, I seem to remember there are a lot of examples in S2, but at the same time, I kinda forgot about them due to their forgettable nature :heh:. I seem to remember the first time Yuna & Soma got their upgraded Cloths, some twin 3rd-class Pallasites attacked with their most powerful technique, but they couldn't even scratch Yuna & Soma. But just few episodes later, Yuna & Soma got beaten by another low-level Pallasites. The contrast is just too strong for just few episodes. Even more eye-rolling than previous SS series. I remember things like that repeatedly happened to other bronze saints too in SSO S2. I'm sure you can find more cases like this in previous pages if you have the time to check them back. You may call that "routine", but I call it "power inconsistency".

[Ozuma]

The battle with the scythe twins, yes, seeing Eden doing nothing was ridiculous and that was poorly written, but that doesn't mean that there's power level inconsistencies, the only thing it means is that the execution isn't very good. Like I said, given enough time, Koga and Co could have defeated the Scythe twins without more problems, but remember, they are dumb warriors and because of that they will always have some problems on their fights. And about Eden, who knows? He understimated the twins, or didn't want to destroy the sewers with his attack, again, it is more a issue about poor writing than about power level inconsistencies.



Exactly.

Good lord, Obelisk how much longer are you going to complain about this?

Also that "low-level Pallasite" Methone fused with his sister (or stole her time to be more precise) and it allowed him to become stronger than he and his sister Ymir were individually.

The previous series had it's share of bad writing as well.

I acknowledge the bad writing in the series as well you just weren't even using that term (Which is more accurate) to describe things.

Look at things this way: SSO is a better spin-off series than DBGT which is perhaps the worst written spin-off in the history of spin-off series.
Also I don't consider SSO a "master-piece" I consider it decent and at least better with it's story-telling and the enemies and allies having more depth than those from Episode G (Which is worshipped like crazy).

@Hamazura

Dude, you're being real trollish right now.

[Ozuma]

@ AGear2Ax

Upon further reflecting (from the Saint Seiya Omega tumblr page) yeah I think you were on the money when you said Eden was worried about bringing the sewer down on them. In the previous season he had to move his fight with Kouga/Abzu away from them because he was going to bring out the big guns.

Same with when he fought Europa.

If Eden used his techniques he'd like endanger the other Bronze's.

Bad writing yeah. Power inconsistency no.

[nishikinomaki]

Oh gods you guys never mind.

Europa take that sword what he gona do for that ageon sword he planning some thing big evil again for sure.

[Ozuma]

@nishikinomaki

Making a big deal outta nothing. Like the bad writing is worse than Kuramada's those 100 orphans are actually Kido Sr.'s actual children.

Definitely going to loan to Mira and have him cause craze shit like he did that third class Pallasite Methone.

[Key Board]

I caught up with this
Kouga and the others aren't really relevant are they?
and I'd be more sad about Ikki's death if he didn't already die several times before

[nishikinomaki]

Ozuma

they copy the anime of saint seiya is not original manga if you watch anime saint seiya they never told those 100 orphans are actually Kido Sr.'s actual children. and from manga saori already know she athena but from anime saint seiya she dont know she athena but butler tatsumi told her she athena.

please stop talk nonsense even original anime saint seiya had plothole to only original is manga of saint seiya follow true story.

toei follow anime of saint seiya not manga that why in anime saint seiya 100 orphans are not kids mr Kido but in manga they kids mr kido.

if you hate omega them stop comment and never watch it like my other friends stop watch it they hate it but me not.

those watch saint seiya and omega if you want original story try reading manga not anime of saint seiya and seiya omega this two anime never follow original story of manga.

original story is saint seiya manga and saint seiya next dimension manga not anime saint seiya

i still watch omega even they not follow original from manga i enjoy to watch it.


Ozuma

try reading saint seiya manga and watch saint seiya anime there part not follow by anime in manga.

Ozuma

sorry i been out controle if i said like this will never mind we know what wrong in saint seiya omega story and saint seiya anime toei always make mistakes that why no body perfect.

i get mad if they kill phoenix ikki the strongest saint to all saints of athena i wonder if they gona follow saint seiya the lost canvas story all powerfull saints getting kill oh god idont like it and make another saint seiya anime and 200 years again and new reincarnation goddess athena. if that happen look like they gona copy digimon story.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Ok, Oz. I will give you another shot at this:

I acknowledge the bad writing in the series as well you just weren't even using that term (Which is more accurate) to describe things.You know, for someone who repeatedly badmouth me by saying "I'm not paying attention" again & again, you did it so spectacularly yourself. Did you forget my post just one page ago where I said the series is "not well-thought out"? Yes, that has the same meaning as "badly written" in this case. In fact, what I said is less harsh than bad writing. And look at your reaction to that:
K that "Is not well thought out" is a conjecture bro. You have no proof to verify that statement.Yeah, you denied it. But after AGear2Ax said the same thing I said (only with different term), you turn 180 and said you "acknowledge the bad writing". We have a double standard here, ladies and gentlemen :rolleyes:.

Furthermore, AGear2Ax at least agreed with me about SS not being too detailed about powers and abilities compared to other shounen like Naruto & Hunter x Hunter:
By "not well-thought out" I meant this series doesn't go into full details about things. It's even pale in comparison to other shounen series like Naruto & Hunter x Hunter in terms of power definition and technique details.Just take a look of Hunter X Hunter, or Naruto like your previous examples. We have more knowledge about how the abilities and powers work on those worlds, and even better, we know what happens on the minds of the characters, unlike ss omega. I acknowledge the poor writing, but not the power levels consistency issue, as such thing cannot exist when we don't have enough information about them aside of: "you sense that huge cosmo?".You, on the other hand, deny it:Okay, dude that's WAY messed up comparing Omega to Naruto. >_>
Why does it need to go into major details about things that should be obvious? It went into detail about the Seventh Sense and cloths. You're probably just not paying attention.


And when I asked you to provide "a proof or a line in the episode where it's said those twin's attack is quicker than what Eden is capable of aside from your own interpretation", you gave me this:
Haruto is also clearly weary if he notes in the episode which they fight the twins "That technique is much more powerful than it was before."Which doesn't say anything about the twins' and their attacks being quicker than what Eden is capable of like you previously said. So, nope, try again.


Good lord, Obelisk how much longer are you going to complain about this?I complain this long because I have to reply you to explain things to you again and again, yet you still don't get it. In comparison, AGear2Ax can understand my points from the get go.


Also that "low-level Pallasite" Methone fused with his sister (or stole her time to be more precise) and it allowed him to become stronger than he and his sister Ymir were individually.Like I said, I don't remember that episode much, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.


The previous series had it's share of bad writing as well.I never said the previous series is free of bad writing.



Now let's see if you can reply to these points of mine properly. If you still unable to do so, then don't bother. I might never do this argument with you again.

I enjoy a good healthy argument where communication go both ways (AGear2Ax can do it). But an argument where I have to repeatedly explain things just so the other party can understand is tiresome and a waste of time and effort.

[Ozuma]

@ nishikinomaki

Aye, broski I know full well that the anime is not canon. I'm dogging the manga for being weaker in some areas compared to the anime and spin-off. That plot reveal just seemed really a-grade stupid.

Additionally, with that being a fact Seiya should know that he and Saori are in a semi- incest type relationship seeing as how she's Mitsumada's Kido's adoptive daughter and he's his blood related child.

I know of the original manga though it's difficult to find some chapters of the series. As I touched on the Shiryu thing, Kuramada really went full-blow inconsistency with his character in Next Dimension.

On Omega-

I doubt they'll kill off Ikki although his temporary departure does do the Omega Bronze Saints a favor: it'll serve as encouragement to get serious and not rely too much on the classic Saints.

If Omega was a joke then I doubt it'd be listed as one of Toei's most popular works.

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

On the Genbu comment you made page(s?) back: it's not really that much power level inconsistency and etc. If anything Genbu dying and Shiryu inheriting his cloth was bound to happen. Once the Darkness Cosmo curse was lifted he would be active just like the rest of them.

Plus, following Shounen law when a member of the infamous Quirky Miniboss Squad of the story makes an appearance it's traditional that they demonstrate their power by either brutally injuring a prominent character or killing them. Genbu served as this for the First class Pallasite's, Hyperion's blade.

This sort of thing would happen in that anime/manga you talk about Hunter X Hunter, Yu-gi-oh, Berserk, Naruto and etc. Also as Aegaeon said "First level Pallasite/Heavenly King's" power is equated to the power of three Gold Saints. So really, Hyperion's blade plus a second class Pallasite power combined Genbu had no chance of surviving the encounter.

On the rest of your post:

You know, for someone who repeatedly badmouth me by saying "I'm not paying attention" again & again, you did it so spectacularly yourself. Did you forget my post just one page ago where I said the series is "not well-thought out"? Yes, that has the same meaning as "badly written" in this case. In fact, what I said is less harsh than bad writing.

You're over-exaggerating. I'm not "bad-mouthing you" I'm just a little agitated by some parts of your posts which are unnecessarily harsh towards Omega. You're acting like the writing made you lose brain cells or some shit like that.

Which doesn't say anything about the twins' and their attacks being quicker than what Eden is capable of like you previously said. So, nope, try again.

Eden's powers are too much for the area they're in. If Eden's powers got focus on that episode he'd likely tell them to clear the area; plus, that episode (like most Shounen for "look what I can do" types ) was a debut for Subaru's power. Eden didn't do anything yet so you can hardly say that it's a case of power level inconsistency. Also Eden didn't have a scratch on him. I have the whole series on my computer so I can bring it up anytime.

Like I said, I don't remember that episode much, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.

I'm not trying to be a douche when I say this but, dude: don't bring something like the "low-level Pallasite" who fought Yuna and Souma if you can't accurately recall the battle.

The most I'm going to agree with you is on the bad writing. The power level inconsistency I believe I pointed out by proving that whenever Eden used his skills he caused a great deal of area damage. Thus, why he needed to be careful when fighting Europa and Thebe.

EDIT: If you're wondering why I came across as hostile it's because I think you went overboard comparing SSO's writing to Naruto. There are far too many retcons in that series.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

You're acting like the writing made you lose brain cells or some shit like that.It's worse. It made me facepalm hard :heh:.

Eden's powers are too much for the area they're in. If Eden's powers got focus on that episode he'd likely tell them to clear the area; plus, that episode (like most Shounen for "look what I can do" types ) was a debut for Subaru's power. Eden didn't do anything yet so you can hardly say that it's a case of power level inconsistency. Also Eden didn't have a scratch on him. I have the whole series on my computer so I can bring it up anytime.I'm still waiting the "proof or a line in the episode where it's said those Scythe Twin's attack is quicker than what Eden is capable of" like you said in previous page below:The two scythe wielders were too quick for him and the others to match-up against.Your comment above still doesn't prove it.


I'm not trying to be a douche when I say this but, dude: don't bring something like the "low-level Pallasite" who fought Yuna and Souma if you can't accurately recall the battle.Pfftt...I still consider 3rd-Class Pallasite as low-level. That's why they're ranked 3rd, and some of them really want to get promoted coz they themselves consider rank 3 as a low rank :rolleyes:. So, even the characters themselves agree with me :P.


EDIT: If you're wondering why I came across as hostile it's because I think you went overboard comparing SSO's writing to Naruto. There are far too many retcons in that series.I'm comparing details of techniques and powers. Say what you will about Naruto's plot, but it has a lot more details than SS franchise. Even a reasonable member like AGear2Ax agrees with me on that.

[nishikinomaki]

Ozuma

tell me why you watch saint seiya omega i know you had reasons but others original fans
they dont like watch it omega. even i original fan of saint seiya why i reason watch it there two reason toei bring back this order not forget by new generations kids even rude to other original fan but in others fans not in other country they forgot about this now in other county not.

second reason i want kouga turn into god cloth omega thats all

i hope final battle gona super effect battle and i hope they not disappoints me

if this gona had season 3 i hope its zeus arc.

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

I made a mistake on the twins thing Eden could've indeed taken them out had there not been PIS involved. It happens in a lot of Shounen.

Pfftt...I still consider 3rd-Class Pallasite as low-level. That's why they're ranked 3rd, and some of them really want to get promoted coz they themselves consider rank 3 as a low rank . So, even the characters themselves agree with me :P.

(Facepalm)

The footsoldier Pallasite's (Rank 4 the ones who don't even get the honor of equipment to distinguish themselves from others like class 3 and 2 do) are the ones who are the "low level" ones. Even if Class 3 they're still a threat. Hell, it was made apparent that was the case when Brionac Loge used his bees to explode on Souma and gave him a serious injury.

In that episode the Steel Saints (save Subaru) who felt like fodder even complained that they could barely hold their own against the foot-soldiers shouldn't be involved. By the end of the episode one of them intervenes when a single of Brionac Loge's bees that was hidden lunged towards Souma was stopped by a Steel Saint who complained about the whole war in the beginning of the episode.

Class 3 Pallasite's don't really get as special benefits as the class 2 do who work under the class 1 Heavenly Kings. Though even then some class 2 Pallasite's lasted long in war waged in the second season. Hati is a testament to this.


lol @ saying Naruto should be a good measuring stick. If I was an irrational asshole I would end the convo right when you said "It has a lot MORE details than SS franchise". It retcons shit and makes a whole lot of mistakes. Shoot, there are even a hella lot more power inconsistency moments in Naruto than in SSO.


Btw so because AGear2Ax "agrees with you" he's reasonable? You don't see the inanity in that logic dude?

[Ozuma]

Ozuma

tell me why you watch saint seiya omega i know you had reasons but others original fans
they dont like watch it omega. even i original fan of saint seiya why i reason watch it there two reason toei bring back this order not forget by new generations kids even rude to other original fan but in others fans not in other country they forgot about this now in other county not.

I liked the old series too bit there were some pieces of it (like the whole Seika sub-plot) that were terribly remedied.

Some people I talk to on other forums have no problems with Omega. I mean yeah, some are only in it for the classic characters though there are also other people that like the original characters. This season is difficult to give spotlight to the Omega cast because it's fan-service in a way for fans of the old series.

However, I like said to someone else on another forum: It's helping bring a lot more popularity to the SS franchise as a whole. There wasn't really that much spotlight on SS even following the wrap up of the Hades OVA. Moreover, the Episode G manga,Next Dimension aren't given too much coverage.


i hope final battle gona super effect battle and i hope they not disappoints me

A friend of mine (along with some others) enjoyed Kouga pwning the shit out of Abzu. That and Kouga using the Sagittarius cloth in the battle.


if this gona had season 3 i hope its zeus arc.

Who knows what we'll see. ;)

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

I made a mistake on the twins thing Eden could've indeed taken them out had there not been PIS involved. It happens in a lot of Shounen.

(Facepalm)

The footsoldier Pallasite's (Rank 4 the ones who don't even get the honor of equipment to distinguish themselves from others like class 3 and 2 do) are the ones who are the "low level" ones. Even if Class 3 they're still a threat. Hell, it was made apparent that was the case when Brionac Loge used his bees to explode on Souma and gave him a serious injury.

In that episode the Steel Saints (save Subaru) who felt like fodder even complained that they could barely hold their own against the foot-soldiers shouldn't be involved. By the end of the episode one of them intervenes when a single of Brionac Loge's bees that was hidden lunged towards Souma was stopped by a Steel Saint who complained about the whole war in the beginning of the episode.

Class 3 Pallasite's don't really get as special benefits as the class 2 do who work under the class 1 Heavenly Kings. Though even then some class 2 Pallasite's lasted long in war waged in the second season. Hati is a testament to this.


lol @ saying Naruto should be a good measuring stick. If I was an irrational asshole I would end the convo right when you said "It has a lot MORE details than SS franchise". It retcons shit and makes a whole lot of mistakes. Shoot, there are even a hella lot more power inconsistency moments in Naruto than in SSO.


Btw so because AGear2Ax "agrees with you" he's reasonable? You don't see the inanity in that logic dude?Suit yourself. Say what you want about Naruto. It's not my business of how you see it.

AGear2Ax is reasonable coz he is quick to catch on my points, not because he agrees with me. Read his post again, he disagree with me about the power inconsistency in SS, but I still respect his opinion coz he thinks thoroughly & clearly and didn't deliver it in a too-emotional and offensive way like you yourself admit:
I'm not "bad-mouthing you" I'm just a little agitated by some parts of your posts which are unnecessarily harsh towards Omega.

If you're wondering why I came across as hostile it's because I think you went overboard comparing SSO's writing to Naruto.
____________________________

Now that you finally admit of making a mistake by saying the Scythe-brothers are quicker than Eden, my job is done.

Everything else are just personal opinions.

[Ozuma]

@Obelisk Ze Tormentor

DUDE, I said from the beginning that the battle was PIS. You went on a tangent about how it sucks because it did an episode which was a debut for another character.

Also I know what you were talking about. I disagree as well with them.

IF the episode wasn't some big debut for Subaru Eden could've likely fared well.

[Galaxian]

Spoilers for ep83-ep85

83 - Shiryu and Ryuho! The Spirit of the Five Old Peaks! (Dec 15)

Ikki died, he and Aegaeon killed each other, and the Saints are saddened thinking about him. Shiryu and Ryuho hasten forward and end up in an arena. Rhea, Rank 2 Pallasite and owner of Gae Bolg, the spear that can pierce all, awaits for them.

84 - A Shadow is Coming! The Gold Saints, Athena’s Protectors! (Dec 22)

The Saint continue running through the corridors, but they have not reached Pallas yet, so doubts begein to arise. Then Paradox, who hates Athena, appears to face Seiya and his companions. Her sister, Integra, appears as well, determined to stop her, and a fierce battle begins.

December 29 - No episode.

85 - Oppose to Destiny! Confession of Treason! (Jan 5)

Gallia, Rank 1 Pallasite, suddenly arrives. The Gold Saints attack one after another, but do not accomplish anything…

[Miraluka]

Even in ND the powers levels are irregular. Just look how Shun gets curbstomped by any saint.

[Ozuma]

@Miraluka

PIS

dominates Saint Seiya sometimes

[DmonHiro]

Oh no... Ikki's dead. How sad....
Let's all mourn our fallen hero....
SERIOUSLY? Are they actually trying to milk this as him having died?
It's like the 10th freaking time!

[Birdway]

Oh no... Ikki's dead. How sad....
Let's all mourn our fallen hero....
SERIOUSLY? Are they actually trying to milk this as him having died?
It's like the 10th freaking time!
Well, people who didn't watch the original series believed this.

People who went al the way to do that now know Ikki will be back.


And in my opnion, it was needed, Ikki wast too much powerful for the series own sake.

[Ozuma]

@Birdway

Agreed. Ikki has Storybreaker power.

[DmonHiro]

You give the guy a cloth named Phoenix and expect people to believe he'll stay dead?
And yeah, the only reason Ikki didn't stomp on Mars' ass was because he was... away... yeah...

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

And yeah, the only reason Ikki didn't stomp on Mars' ass was because he was... away... yeah...Don't think too much about it. Vague and lame reasoning has always been a staple of SS franchise since day one. Just go with the flow to enjoy it (I did). Although I agree with you that the story sometimes stretches your logic too far.

[Galaxian]

Actually, in the anime. Ikki's deaths were always vague enough that it could have simply be that he was seriously injured (even the Shaka fight was him being transferred into another dimension), so if needed they could actually say that this is the first time he actually "dies".

In the manga is a whole different story. He clearly gets blown up by Saga towards the end of the 12 Houses and effectively comes back to life. Nothing vague about it. :heh:

[Goty]

And yeah, the only reason Ikki didn't stomp on Mars' ass was because he was... away... yeah...

Ikki was presumably affected by Apzu's darkness too, so even if he was there, he probably couldn't do much fighting wise (as Seiya couldn't, either). At least he wasn't doing nothing.

Actually, in the anime. Ikki's deaths were always vague enough that it could have simply be that he was seriously injured (even the Shaka fight was him being transferred into another dimension), so if needed they could actually say that this is the first time he actually "dies".

In the manga is a whole different story. He clearly gets blown up by Saga towards the end of the 12 Houses and effectively comes back to life. Nothing vague about it. :heh:

Yeah, in the manga he spends a good while 'dead" until he suddenly comes back in Poseidon. An actual death never happened in the anime, although the other Bronze Saints did mourn his death after the Virgo temple.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Actually, in the anime. Ikki's deaths were always vague enough that it could have simply be that he was seriously injured (even the Shaka fight was him being transferred into another dimension), so if needed they could actually say that this is the first time he actually "dies".

In the manga is a whole different story. He clearly gets blown up by Saga towards the end of the 12 Houses and effectively comes back to life. Nothing vague about it. :heh:You're spot-on about the manga, Galaxian. Yeah, as I said in my previous post: being vague and undetailed about many things is a staple in SS franchise, so I'm not talking only about the anime. There are different elements of vague-ness between manga and anime, but it's still there in both media. Sometimes it's in the same spots, but sometimes in different spots. I also think "Ikki's death" you mentioned was better-executed in the anime than the manga. I find the whole "alive again after legitimately dead" harder to believe than the anime's "did he or didn't he?"-approach. In case anyone wondering, yes, I consider "all because of cosmo" excuses used for something or some events that really can't be explained otherwise as part of the vague/half-ass reasoning. So that's that.

But you know what? Like I said many times, I enjoy this franchise so much despite all the pitfalls I mentioned above. I've been a fan since the very first SS anime aired long ago. But don't blame me for noticing and addressing something in the franchise that other fans don't like.

[LKK]

Everyone, put an end to this back and forth insulting and bickering before we are forced to end it for you. Consider yourself warned.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

^ Nice to have you here, LKK maam ;).

Anyway, I forgot to address the latest episode itself. Tbh I was kinda pissed off since this is supposed to be my favorite character's big moment (aka. Ikki's fight to the death) yet the animation was so bad and stiff that the dialogues between Ikki and Aegeon took over the action almost entirely. It's like their fighting more with their words than their fighting skills. Even the animation when Ikki's fighting with Mira is a lot better than this. Shame on you, this episode's animator!

On another topic, Seiya's reasoning for Harbinger being a 'one of us' is real funny: because the Taurus Cloth chose him. So...how about that evil Cancer guy? The Cancer Cloth also chose him. Will Seiya acknowledge him of being 'one of us' too? Or is it because Taurus is a "good cloth" while Cancer is the "bad one"? This is why, in many occasions, I can't take the characters words in SS franchise that seriously. All in all, I think Seiya's just being too nostalgic and miss Aldebaran so much :heh:.

Now onto the thing I like about this episode. Seiya's WTF-logic aside, I like that Harbinger & Fudo still has some character growth in SSO S2 rather than suddenly turned good like what I was afraid of in the intial episodes of S2. Harbinger is your typical misunderstood violent guy while I sense a little bit of Virgo Asmita & Shaka in Fudo (his Buddhism aside). He still doesn't care that much about the corrupt humans, but takes interest in Athena and want to see her deal with all the crap she must face for the world's sake. I'd like S2 to keep this character-growth going so that I can keep enjoying this.

[hamazura]

ikki vs aegeon final clash is like kouga vs abzu wannabe with dat pencil thing effect :p

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

I also like the bit where Ikki took out Aegeon's turtle-shells thingy almost immediately. That thing was such an eyesore to me and Ikki just granted my wish by getting rid of it from the get go:hyper-^v^:. It's so ugly that Aegeon look so much better without it :heh:.

[AGear2Ax]

Aegeon with his Gravitontector looked like a Gundam and even more without those turtle-shells :heh:

Also, this episode shows that the Class 1 pallasites, even without their swords, are very strong. I always felt that they weren't that strong without those holy-blades.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Aegeon with his Gravitontector looked like a Gundam and even more without those turtle-shells :heh:That's why I like him without the shells thingy coz I'm also a Gundam fan :p.

[hamazura]

Aegeon with his Gravitontector looked like a Gundam and even more without those turtle-shells :heh:

Also, this episode shows that the Class 1 pallasites, even without their swords, are very strong. I always felt that they weren't that strong without those holy-blades.

aegeon just spamming JYUUBAKURAIZANBA! all the time :heh:

[Mad Pierrot]

For anybody wondering (this is the most active Seiya thread) Next Dimension returned from hiatus

Also the CGI film has a website

http://saintseiya2014.com/

[Galaxian]

For anybody wondering (this is the most active Seiya thread) Next Dimension returned from hiatus

Next Dimension goes on hiatus so much that it's kind of the McRib of the Saint Seiya franchise :heh:

[Birdway]

For anybody wondering (this is the most active Seiya thread) Next Dimension returned from hiatus


High chances of Death Toll dyin in hands of Vermeer.

[Goty]

Next Dimension goes on hiatus so much that it's kind of the McRib of the Saint Seiya franchise :heh:

One would think Kurumada would be cooking something really special, with all the time he takes..

[nishikinomaki]

Icant wait for Saint Seiya CGI Movie Gona be awesome Movie.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

For anybody wondering (this is the most active Seiya thread) Next Dimension returned from hiatus

Also the CGI film has a website

http://saintseiya2014.com/High chances of Death Toll dyin in hands of Vermeer.Icant wait for Saint Seiya CGI Movie Gona be awesome Movie.Might as well change the title of this thread into Saint Seiya General Thread. :D:heh:

One would think Kurumada would be cooking something really special, with all the time he takes..Unfortunately, Kurumada is no Togashi, so I'll keep my expectation low, just in case.

[hamazura]

i just realized that OMEGA is basically "power of nakama" :p
no wonder seiya.co never achieved omega, they always fight alone independence rather than gangbang the enemy like kouga :p

[Kazu-kun]

gangbang the enemy like kouga

Really? As far as I can tell, when Kouga and co. fight as a team, they always job. Usually, they get things done only when each of them fight alone (or as a team of two).

Also, I'm pretty sure the only one who will reach Omega from team Kouga will be Kouga himself (and maybe Eden). The others were nerfed way too much and have been mostly useless the whole season (especially Yuuna).

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

The others were nerfed way too much and have been mostly useless the whole season (especially Yuuna).Yeah, the truth hurts. Nerving, which is a form of power-inconsistency, is what I hate the most in an anime about fighting. Also, I don't see any further character development from Yuna or Soma. Well, in Soma's case maybe they can zombie-revived Scorpio Sonia to fight him. He never got to settle things with her. As for Yuna, all her problems are well behind her, so I don't know how they can develop her character further. Maybe they can have her actually fallen in love with someone this time? Just to make her character a bit more interesting. I remember Omega kinda ship KougaxYuna in S1, only to be back to zero in S2.

[AGear2Ax]

For anybody wondering (this is the most active Seiya thread) Next Dimension returned from hiatus

Also the CGI film has a website

http://saintseiya2014.com/
The character designs... What is that? Final Fantasy meets Saint Seiya? Did we need to see that radical change?

Really? As far as I can tell, when Kouga and co. fight as a team, they always job. Usually, they get things done only when each of them fight alone (or as a team of two).

Also, I'm pretty sure the only one who will reach Omega from team Kouga will be Kouga himself (and maybe Eden). The others were nerfed way too much and have been mostly useless the whole season (especially Yuuna).
Well, Koga is like a cosmo capacitor for the team... Just see the fight against Abzu, the episode when Genbu is killed and against the Time Gate. Koga is always storing the cosmo of the others to unleash a powerful attack.

Yeah, the truth hurts. Nerfing, which is a form of power-inconsistency, is what I hate the most in an anime about fighting. Also, I don't see any further character development from Yuna or Soma. Well, in Soma's case maybe they can zombie-revived Scorpio Sonia to fight him. He never got to settle things with her. As for Yuna, all her problems are well behind her, so I don't know how they can develop her character further. Maybe they can have her actually fallen in love with someone this time? Just to make her character a bit more interesting. I remember Omega kinda ship KougaxYuna in S1, only to be back to zero in S2.
S1 took a lot more of risks and put a little more of effort on their writing, trying different things that I think were a first for the SS franchise. S2 took a more "playing safe" route, and I think that it is even worse how they try to appeal more to older fans that the SS Omega fans.

The SSO staff should learn a thing of two from other shonen shows, where there are powerful non main characters on the same side of the MCs, because how the staff is dealing with the legendary Saints, isn't very good IMO.

[Kazu-kun]

Well, Koga is like a cosmo capacitor for the team... Just see the fight against Abzu, the episode when Genbu is killed and against the Time Gate. Koga is always storing the cosmo of the others to unleash a powerful attack.

I not denying that. I'm just saying it's retarded. I'm not watching only for Kouga. I doubt anyone is. So they should give everyone more chances to shine. The first season was far from perfect, but at least it gave all the characters besides Kouga a little more attention.

[AGear2Ax]

I not denying that. I'm just saying it's retarded. I'm not watching only for Kouga. I doubt anyone is. So they should give everyone more chances to shine. The first season was far from perfect, but at least it gave all the characters besides Kouga a little more attention.
I don't like that either... It's like some DBZ movies where everybody gives their strength to Goku to finish the enemy with a single very OP punch. That is insulting for the characters and throws away tru team work.

About the characters, I don't know what happened but S1 give us some character development... On S2 it is almost non-existent with some minor exceptions (Titan, Subaru, Eden at the beginning) and what could have been a great plot twist, I think it is ruined by now.

Also the young saints on S2 are just dumb in the fights, I mean, we could have some character grow seeing them being smart in the fights, but no, the best strategy for them if just to charge right in front of the enemy. Just see the most recent plan of them: "We are going to defeat Aegeon by destroying his sword". I think seeing them formulating a real plan/strategy could have been better. No wonder the enemy always mocks them despite their previous feats.

[Galaxian]

Season 2 has pretty much shoved Kouga to the curb and he'll stay there until Subaru turns evil.

[Kazu-kun]

Season 2 has pretty much shoved Kouga to the curb and he'll stay there until Subaru turns evil.

Kouga still gets to show off his stuff. He damaged Aegeon's sword after all. The problems is that the rest of the original cast have been complete forgotten.

[Kanon]

The problem with the second season is that it's trying to pander too much to old fans at the expense of what the first season has build. Kouga's team was nerfed to hell and back so that the legendary saints and Kiki would get to show off.

If this week's episode is any indication, it looks like they're starting to remember who the main characters are though. Or maybe they just like Ryuho, he does seem to have been relatively spared compared to Yuna or Souma.

[Birdway]

Ryuho always was gifted, since the series started he had a good technique, Rozan Shoryuha he had a better training and showed he could throw Rozan Hyakkyryuha without being pushed back by his own technique.

[Galaxian]

If this week's episode is any indication, it looks like they're starting to remember who the main characters are though. Or maybe they just like Ryuho, he does seem to have been relatively spared compared to Yuna or Souma.

Even Souma has had a couple of episode that are at least partially centered around him. However, the staff seem to unabashedly hate Yuna...

[Goty]

Ryuho always was gifted, since the series started he had a good technique, Rozan Shoryuha he had a better training and showed he could throw Rozan Hyakkyryuha without being pushed back by his own technique.

Yeah, Ryuhou was introduced as Palaestra's prodigy after all, and he was known as the strongest new Saint after Eden, before Kouga appeared. He was also the 1st to achieve the Seventh Sense.

I don't think Souma got so neglected though, he got to kill two 3rd class Pallasites himself, even if helped by Steel Saints and Yuna. Besides, the Legendary Saints weren't really doing anything until everyone reached the castle, it's not like this season was all about them. 83 is the first time we see Shiryu fighting..

[Justin_Brett]

"Paradox, how would you feel about trying to go kill Athena, ensuring the wrath of the FOUR gold saints currently guarding her?"

"Sure!"

[Birdway]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q77/s720x720/1476650_10151864421896376_48372997_n.jpg

[Galaxian]

Full preview for ep84...

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[ShiroiRyu]

Pretty basic episode.
Seriously ...
And the next one don't seem better.

[hamazura]

so.. thats how you trigger omega? just like that? cmon everyone had million chance to do it in season 1 :heh:
next episode looks even more boring, i dont like paradox...

[AkitoW013]

I liked the new opening with the sounds and the episode was ok for me, the graphics was ok too.

[Galaxian]

Rhea did not lived up to his hype and, after waiting years for a character that had a legendary spear in his arm, Gae Bolg was a disappointment...

[n0m@n]

So the Parasites whose names are known and alive at this point are the 3 First Class, and 2(3?) Second Class?

[Goty]

So the Parasites whose names are known and alive at this point are the 3 First Class, and 2(3?) Second Class?

Europa, Miller and Paradox. And well, Pallas herself.

It's interesting that while Europa keeps scheming here and there (he's even more mysterious in 83), Miller is nowhere to be seen. And Miller was interrupted and rescued by Europa, not just once, but twice. He was the only pallasite that Europa didn't want dead early. Wonder if there's a special reason for that.

[n0m@n]

Europa, Miller and Paradox. And well, Pallas herself.

It's interesting that while Europa keeps scheming here and there (he's even more mysterious in 83), Miller is nowhere to be seen. And Miller was interrupted and rescued by Europa, not just once, but twice. He was the only pallasite that Europa didn't want dead early. Wonder if there's a special reason for that.

It wont be weird if Europa betrays the First Class Parasites. It seems like he knows more of what will happen from now then anyone else.

[Birdway]

How are the chances of Sonia coming back to live?

Europa, Miller and Paradox. And well, Pallas herself.

It's interesting that while Europa keeps scheming here and there (he's even more mysterious in 83), Miller is nowhere to be seen. And Miller was interrupted and rescued by Europa, not just once, but twice. He was the only pallasite that Europa didn't want dead early. Wonder if there's a special reason for that.
Milller is the Mu from the pallasites side.

[hamazura]

i have a feeling europa is direct subordinate of subaru.... like amor

[Ozuma]

The problem with the second season is that it's trying to pander too much to old fans at the expense of what the first season has build. Kouga's team was nerfed to hell and back so that the legendary saints and Kiki would get to show off.

By doing so the second season is indeed a mixed bag. I mean Eden does get kudos for being the only one of the Omega Bronze saints that doesn't let himself totally knocked aside like a ragdoll by Ikki when he shows up to fight Mira.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

How are the chances of Sonia coming back to live?I think the chances are slim, unless the anime-producers want to complete their "good" Gold Saints line-up and don't have better candidate for Scorpio.

If there's no better candidate, I personally wish Shaina to get promoted to Scorpio. I think her character fits the cloth and she kinda earns it.

Btw, where the hell is Marin in all this? Now that her cloth is downgraded to Bronze and worn by Yuna (Aquila & Eagle is the same constellation, right?), does that mean she already found her lil-bro, retired, and live happily ever after? If so, at least show us, godammit! They even show that scientist who made the Steel Cloths from the old show, but not Marin?

[hamazura]

I think the chances are slim, unless the anime-producers want to complete their "good" Gold Saints line-up and don't have better candidate for Scorpio.

If there's no better candidate, I personally wish Shaina to get promoted to Scorpio. I think her character fits the cloth and she kinda earns it.

Btw, where the hell is Marin in all this? Now that her cloth is downgraded to Bronze and worn by Yuna (Aquila & Eagle is the same constellation, right?), does that mean she already found her lil-bro, retired, and live happily ever after? If so, at least show us, godammit! They even show that scientist who made the Steel Cloths from the old show, but not Marin?

marin becomes poseidon's marin-ers *uhm not funny*

[nishikinomaki]

Look like omega is power of friendship and trust Combine as one to spirits.

ryho the first unlock omega in kouga team

look like i saw this from lost canvas combine spirite as power they look like copy it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcqzAic4Luo

that mean Hakurei learn omega to lol ?.

[Ozuma]

Marin doesn't need to return. According to Next Dimension she finds her brother so if anything she deserves her happy ending.