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jopjopjop
2014-02-17, 23:39
They will probably fight her since her Longinus is being used to unseal 666.

n0m@n
2014-02-18, 00:28
Approximately one and half day till release aye.
Though it won't be weird for spoilers to come out tomorrow since there will be someone who gets a day before hand.

Tbolt
2014-02-18, 00:31
Thanks n0m@n, I think we have just about run out of ideas to speculate about and we need new material.

sky black swordman
2014-02-18, 03:51
he will just die. That's a pretty bold statement how did you come to that conclusion.Yes, it is a bit bold and @Superbia already posted it.

I don't think he's just going to commit suicide if all the strong people eventually die.I think Vali may end up going into seclusion and waits for his life to come to an end.

Hokoga
2014-02-18, 05:34
Yes, it is a bit bold and @Superbia already posted it.

I think Vali may end up go into seclusion and waits for his life to come to an end.

That's a long time to wait, at least he has Albion to keep him company.

cyberdemon
2014-02-18, 20:47
------NEW TO THIS THREAD WASSUP ! ! :)



That would be interesting i believe her name is boss lady shein, she runs the magicians correct . but is she even someone who is going to be in dialogue with dxd or is she going to be just a battle appearance ?

I see her betraying them eventually or being betrayed. I find the chances likely that in the end all of the longinus users will end up the DxD group. Th purpose of God making the longinuses was likely specifically to either protect the seal from anyone, even gods, who wish to release 666 or to kill 666 if it managed to escape. Even now we see the Longinus users slowly coming together as a group.

Tbolt
2014-02-18, 21:49
@cyberdemon that's an interesting idea if it was to be something like that. It could be something like the holy Longinuses start to influence the possessors and at first they don't know what's going on and start to be drawn to Ise, since the holy spear has already accepted Ise's dream over Cao Cao's and Cao Cao relies it and just goes with the flow. Since he is a male harem member he gets to get close to Ise.

n0m@n
2014-02-18, 22:39
Speaking of which, its regarding the upcoming High School DxD illustration book which will be released in the same day volume 17.

It will also contain the following:
-Short stories illustration that couldn't be included in the short story compilation volumes (Vol8, vol13,vol15).
-An illustration of Dulio (who has yet to have an illustration)

Yye1
2014-02-18, 23:03
^ The SS is the one in Xenovia's POV right? Damn, cant wait for that

n0m@n
2014-02-18, 23:36
Lol, so it must be Church related.
Also this is Rias's early design. So her old model looks even more like Tamaki from ToHeart2. Lucky they changed it and didnt make Itou Shizuka voice her...due to copyright...
http://www.anibro.jp/tokuten/image_fair/miyama_gasyu_DD17_rendo.jpg

XFire
2014-02-19, 01:09
Lol, so it must be Church related.
Also this is Rias's early design. So her old model looks even more like Tamaki from ToHeart2. Lucky they changed it and didnt make Itou Shizuka voice her...due to copyright...
http://www.anibro.jp/tokuten/image_fair/miyama_gasyu_DD17_rendo.jpg

Just my opinion, but I like the official version much better.

GrrDraxin
2014-02-19, 03:10
^ It IS official, it's just an early version. They probably also noticed she looked too much like Tamaki too, and gave her a bit of a makeover to her current incarnation, which looks far more refined... but it could also just be the low resolution of the sample. It doesn't look like a Miyama-zero version, but then again, hard to tell without seeing a higher res version. The eyes would give it away no problem.

As for Dulio getting an illustration, I would like it more if they were to have a combined cast image of the characters not yet illustrated up to now, so at least there is something to go by for those side individuals. While Michael was all fine and good to have in the anime, he might have looked considerably different if Miyama had illustrated him before then. At least with a character combo image, we can see what everyone who is of any relevance looks like.

n0m@n
2014-02-19, 10:06
Volume 17:
Contents

Life.0
Life.1 Praises During the Training!
Life.2 The School of the Underworld!
Life.3 The Direction of the Evil Intent
Life.4 The Youth Devil
New Life.
Brother?
Emperor.

There's two coloured illustration. One of them is a recycled one. But the other one...
is super gorgeous. Rossweisse and Ise bathing alone.

Gary29
2014-02-19, 10:10
Oh wow, Rossweisse and Ise bathing alone? I can't wait to see such an amazing colored illustration.

it_happens
2014-02-19, 10:40
As for Dulio getting an illustration, I would like it more if they were to have a combined cast image of the characters not yet illustrated up to now, so at least there is something to go by for those side individuals. While Michael was all fine and good to have in the anime, he might have looked considerably different if Miyama had illustrated him before then. At least with a character combo image, we can see what everyone who is of any relevance looks like.

--- I agree with you, but another cast image I would like to see is one of all the 13 users of the Longinuses since even some past possessors have been shown yet like, leonardo and slash dog ( well maybe since slash dog is from another project of the author he already has a image, but i have never seen it )

Chris38
2014-02-19, 11:31
An illustration of Rossweisse and Ise bathing is probably something that everyone wants to see.

Apart from that ... judging by the spoilers n0m@n posted, it seems that the first chapter is going to concentrate on some training with Sun Wukong and some 'lighter moments' of the novel and the rest of them are going to be more action based.

At least that's the impression that I get from those titles...

XFire
2014-02-19, 11:34
Volume 17:
Contents

There's two coloured illustration. One of them is a recycled one. But the other one...
is super gorgeous. Rossweisse and Ise bathing alone.

Finally, the Ross flag has been raised.

II Maestro
2014-02-19, 11:38
Rossweisse and Ise bathing alone? that sure is an amazing to happen especially to Rossweisse who is concerned not having a boyfriend wonder what sort of miracle made it happen.

DragoMuseveni
2014-02-19, 12:56
ISe And Rossweisse bathing.... well this is something new . I cant wait to see the training and how ise will recover ross if she get kidnapped , and if cao cao appears in this volume what is gonna happen he will fight . I have to many questions now .

n0m@n
2014-02-19, 17:19
About the two non-coloured illsutrations, yeah, it pretty much tells us by the image.

1.) Ross and Euclid
Euclid appears during Ise and Ross's date at Tokyo from nowhere. He came to invite Ross to the organisation.

2.) BB Saji and the Holy Cross wielder
Saji finally reaches BB.

II Maestro
2014-02-19, 17:24
Woah~! Good for Saji he finally reach BB.

Wonder what triggered for Saji to reach BB, Ise reach BB by pressing Rias breast well this is Saji we are talking about so he probably reach it normally since he doesn't have weird fetish like Ise.

Endscape
2014-02-19, 17:30
Saji reaching Balance Breaker, good for him!

I wonder if Odin will appear in this volume, considering Ross's grudge against him?

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 17:43
Woah~! Good for Saji he finally reach BB.

Wonder what triggered for Saji to reach BB, Ise reach BB by pressing Rias breast well this is Saji we are talking about so he probably reach it normally since he doesn't have weird fetish like Ise.

Event is focused on Sona's school... you can figure out the rest in your own :heh:

n0m@n
2014-02-19, 18:16
Where should I start...


First About Rossweisse:
-Yeah, she pretty much falls for Ise by the end of volume 17.
-She's called "Rose" by her grandmother(Rossweisse.)
-She's a prodigy who came up with a method to seal(not unseal) 666 when she was young even though the existence of 666 wasn't clear at that time)
-She gets taken by Euclid but gets saved by Ise at the end. Ise defeats Euclid and he gets captured by the Devils.


About Euclid:
-Yeah, he does show a liking to Rossweisse due to him seeing a resemblance between Ross and his sister. So he's obsessed with Grayfia.
-The reason why he chose Boosted Gear to make a replica off. Since his sister was taken by "red(Sirzechs)", he decided he should become "red(Sekiryuutei)" as well. He seriously is obsessed with Grayfia.
-His obsession was so great that he wanted to take Ross and eventually become his "sister".
-So his kidnapping of her was quite personal and it certainly seemed like he wanted ntr her. (I really wanted to say that word~)


Evil Dragons:
-The Evil Dragons that appeared in this volumes are Grendel, Ladon,Aži Dahāka.
-Ise fights Ladon. Though the later disappears afterwards.
-Ise and Sairaorg tag-team against Grendel. Grendel gets completely defeated and sealed so he won't return.
-Mass produced Evil Dragons are...dumb...just like Fafnir and the previous hosts of Hakuryuukou.


Sona's School:
-The main event occurred in that school.
-It gets assaulted by the terrorists.
-Saji shows his guts. Which eventually leads him to attain BB.


Ise's power-up:
-The power Ise showed in volume 16 is called Dividing Wyvern Fairly.
-He can also change the Wyvern to use "Boost" instead of "Divide" and mix them up.
-He now has access to Longinus Smasher which he used to defeat Euclid.


Others:
-Cao Cao himself doesn't appear but his Holy Spear does in order to help DxD out. Ise gets informed about him joining DxD from Azazel.
-Emperor Belial is a traitor and is linked with Rizevim. Though no one knows about it yet.
-Irina levels up as an Angel. She now has 4 wings.
-Next volume will be Irina main volume. Belial will most likely get involved since he has concerns something that took place in Ise's town and Irina+her parents has something to do with it.
-Xenovia wants to become the Student President hence she is studying hard. She has the highest score among her peer Devils where she scored the average of 90s. Damn she's smart.

Tbolt
2014-02-19, 18:19
Great updates n0m@n, thank you.

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 18:27
-So his kidnapping of her was quite personal and it certainly seemed like he wanted ntr her. (I really wanted to say that word~)

Emperor Belial is a traitor and is linked with Rizevim. Though no one knows about it yet


By ''ntr her'' you mean Grayfia right? and also by Belial, is it him alone? or the whole team since his team were pretty much able to solo a Bandersnatch

XFire
2014-02-19, 18:33
Where should I start...


First About Rossweisse:
-Yeah, she pretty much falls for Ise by the end of volume 17.
-She's called "Rose" by her grandmother(Rossweisse.)
-She's a prodigy who came up with a method to seal(not unseal) 666 when she was young even though the existence of 666 wasn't clear at that time)
-She gets taken by Euclid but gets saved by Ise at the end. Ise defeats Euclid and he gets captured by the Devils.


About Euclid:
-Yeah, he does show a liking to Rossweisse due to him seeing a resemblance between Ross and his sister. So he's obsessed with Grayfia.
-The reason why he chose Boosted Gear to make a replica off. Since his sister was taken by "red(Sirzechs)", he decided he should become "red(Sekiryuutei)" as well. He seriously is obsessed with Grayfia.
-His obsession was so great that he wanted to take Ross and eventually become his "sister".
-So his kidnapping of her was quite personal and it certainly seemed like he wanted ntr her. (I really wanted to say that word~)


Evil Dragons:
-The Evil Dragons that appeared in this volumes are Grendel, Ladon,Aži Dahāka.
-Ise fights Ladon. Though the later disappears afterwards.
-Ise and Sairaorg tag-team against Grendel. Grendel gets completely defeated and sealed so he won't return.
-Mass produced Evil Dragons are...dumb...just like Fafnir and the previous hosts of Hakuryuukou.


Sona's School:
-The main event occurred in that school.
-It gets assaulted by the terrorists.
-Saji shows his guts. Which eventually leads him to attain BB.


Ise's power-up:
-The power Ise showed in volume 16 is called Dividing Wyvern Fairly.
-He can also change the Wyvern to use "Boost" instead of "Divide" and mix them up.
-He now has access to Longinus Smasher which he used to defeat Euclid.


Others:
-Cao Cao himself doesn't appear but his Holy Spear does in order to help DxD out. Ise gets informed about him joining DxD from Azazel.
-Emperor Belial is a traitor and is linked with Rizevim. Though no one knows about it yet.
-Irina levels up as an Angel. She now has 4 wings.
-Next volume will be Irina main volume. Belial will most likely get involved since he has concerns something that took place in Ise's town and Irina+her parents has something to do with it.
-Xenovia wants to become the Student President hence she is studying hard. She has the highest score among her peer Devils where she scored the average of 90s. Damn she's smart.

-Ross flag confirmed
-Ise beats the shit out of Fake McSiscon
-CaoCao on the good side
-Sairong shows up
-Saji BB confirmed
-Xenovia isn't a moron

There appears to have been a schedule mishap. Somehow Christmas, New Years, Easter and my birthday have all landed on the same day.

Gary29
2014-02-19, 18:34
By ''ntr her'' you mean Grayfia right? and also by Belial, is it him alone? or the whole team since his team were pretty much able to solo a Bandersnatch

Pretty sure he was referring to Rossweisse, since she's the one he kidnapped.

Pretty good reason to hate Euclid, basically wanting to do the same thing to Rossweisse that Diodora wanted with Asia.

Ise's mini dragons being able to swap between Divide and Boost and mix it up is awesome.

But the biggest surprise... Emperor Belial is a traitor? Looks like we may see a Gremory Group vs the Rating Game Champion battle in the future.

Thanks a lot for these updates, n0m@n. Volume 17 is definitely looking to be my favorite yet.

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 18:42
Pretty sure he was referring to Rossweisse, since she's the one he kidnapped.




Nom@n said, Euclid wants to ntr HER
for example: ''Dude got ntr'ed by his friend'' and noman said Rossweisse got ntr'ed, doesn't that mean she's not the one getting ntr'ed?

so if it's her, Euclid is basically trying to ntr Grayfia right?

Gary29
2014-02-19, 18:47
Nom@n said, Euclid wants to ntr HER
for example: ''Dude got ntr'ed by his friend'' and noman said Rossweisse got ntr'ed, doesn't that mean she's not the one getting ntr'ed?

so if it's her, Euclid is basically trying to ntr Grayfia right?


If I read that correctly, that would only make sense if she liked him. As in, she would get NTR'd by him because he's going after someone else. But n0m@n was probably trying to say he wanted to NTR Ise by going after Rossweisse.

Hokoga
2014-02-19, 18:52
About Euclid:
-Yeah, he does show a liking to Rossweisse due to him seeing a resemblance between Ross and his sister. So he's obsessed with Grayfia.
-The reason why he chose Boosted Gear to make a replica off. Since his sister was taken by "red(Sirzechs)", he decided he should become "red(Sekiryuutei)" as well. He seriously is obsessed with Grayfia.
-His obsession was so great that he wanted to take Ross and eventually become his "sister".
-So his kidnapping of her was quite personal and it certainly seemed like he wanted ntr her. (I really wanted to say that word~) http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/bad-blood/yolks-2/48/shocked-again-icon.pngWow Euclid is almost as f*#ked up as Diodora
-Xenovia wants to become the Student President hence she is studying hard. She has the highest score among her peer Devils where she scored the average of 90s. Damn she's smart. Which is weird cause usually she is described as being an idiot. Can't wait to read about that bath scenehttp://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/bad-blood/yolks-2/72/nose-bleed-icon.png

n0m@n
2014-02-19, 18:52
Yeah, I was referring to Rossweisse. I just wanted to say the word "ntr".



Also additional info:
-Saji's BB is called "Malebolge Vritra Promotion".
-Fafnir events a cooking which involves Asia's panties. This made the previous Hakuryukou hosts, and several mass-produced Evil Dragons to find panties as a fascinating thing.

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 18:53
If I read that correctly, that would only make sense if she liked him. As in, she would get NTR'd by him because he's going after someone else. But n0m@n was probably trying to say he wanted to NTR Ise by going after Rossweisse.

That's what I was trying to say. :heh:
Noman probably made a mistake on that part :nod:

Yeah, I was referring to Rossweisse. I just wanted to say the word "ntr".



Also additional info:
-Saji's BB is called "Malebolge Vritra Promotion".
-Fafnir events a cooking which involves Asia's panties. This made the previous Hakuryukou hosts, and several mass-produced Evil Dragons to find panties as a fascinating thing.

wait... why promotion? I thought the promotion Balance Breaker can only be achieved if Ajuka tweaks the chess piece?

Wow Euclid is almost as f*#ked up as Diodora ]

Pretty boy devils never learn

peinmaximus@
2014-02-19, 18:53
n0m@n,now with the Longinus Smasher,Ise reached the god class?

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 18:59
Oh boy, here we go again!

n0m@n
2014-02-19, 19:02
That's what I was trying to say. :heh:
Noman probably made a mistake on that part :nod:

Why:eyespin:??



wait... why promotion? I thought the promotion Balance Breaker can only be achieved if Ajuka tweaks the chess piece?


It does have the name promotion in it, but its not the same as Ise's Triaina. Plus, it means that its a powerful version of Vritra Promotion which is not wrong.

n0m@n,now with the Longinus Smasher,Ise reached the god class?

Hmm, not actually sure. Ddraig said its really powerful, and he did defeat Euclid with it. Though its called the "Forbidden Move", so maybe?

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 19:06
Why:eyespin:??



Well, you said something about him trying to ntr Issei even though she has not fallen for him completely yet :heh:


It does have the name promotion in it, but its not the same as Ise's Triaina. Plus, it means that its a powerful version of Vritra Promotion which is not wrong.




Now that you mention it, I clearly forgot about his dragon king promotion

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 19:24
Wahaha. I called it right!

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4994624&postcount=1159

Anyway, damn you Belial!

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 19:39
By ''ntr her'' you mean Grayfia right? and also by Belial, is it him alone? or the whole team since his team were pretty much able to solo a Bandersnatch

His team wasn't able to solo a Bandersnatch, it was an alliance army that he led that defeated the monster.

Yye1
2014-02-19, 19:39
I am still processing the part about xenovia being smart... Also, whats this bout a date between Ise and Ross?!

DrakeKnight
2014-02-19, 19:40
Iam getting a feel that all the good dragons has perverted hearts

Damn this story is totally destroying my image of dragons. All those perverts dragons are worst then Ise who fascination with Breast

cyberdemon
2014-02-19, 19:41
Yeah, I was referring to Rossweisse. I just wanted to say the word "ntr".



Also additional info:
-Saji's BB is called "Malebolge Vritra Promotion".
-Fafnir events a cooking which involves Asia's panties. This made the previous Hakuryukou hosts, and several mass-produced Evil Dragons to find panties as a fascinating thing.

(blinks several times) uhh... I'd really like to know just what happened to Fafnir to make him this way if he wasn't always like that...

putting that aside so is Saji's BB a combination of all of the Vritra pieces or just a subspecies of his absorbtion line? Perhaps they all combined into a single sacred gear or even a new longinus as a result.

Seeing the picture of them. Maybe the Holy Cross user will be a future member of Saji's harem. She kind of has a Yandere look to her which this LN has been lacking a character of this type lol.


-Emperor Belial is a traitor and is linked with Rizevim. Though no one knows about it yet.
-Irina levels up as an Angel. She now has 4 wings.
-Xenovia wants to become the Student President hence she is studying hard. She has the highest score among her peer Devils where she scored the average of 90s. Damn she's smart.

-Didn't see that coming.
-So Irina leveled up from the self proclaiming angel to the self proclaiming four winged angel. lol
-what do you know she does have more than muscle in her brain. lol

peinmaximus@
2014-02-19, 19:45
Guys,then in vol 18 we will probably see the Red Dragon Emperor vs the ''Emperor'' Bellial?I see an epic fight coming between this two.
Obs:Cyberdemon,I think that is more probably that the Holy Cross user join in the Ise's harem.Only the MC can has a harem.This is the absolute law.kkkk

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 19:47
I am still processing the part about xenovia being smart... Also, whats this bout a date between Ise and Ross?!

I guess she reminded Issei about the date the group talked about in Volume 12.

Avaricia
2014-02-19, 20:06
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Obs:Cyberdemon,I think that is more probably that the Holy Cross user join in the Ise's harem.Only the MC can has a harem.This is the absolute law.kkkk

>Only the MC!
>THE MC!

Raiser is gonna burn this guy :heh:

kusabireika
2014-02-19, 20:07
oh here we go again 0_0 oh pain :meh:

so belial is a traitor -_- old maou supporter?, is ross grandmother a traitor too? i hope its ok to ask n0m@n plz?:T_T:

i wonder if saji bb and his sg is now consider longinus type sg maybe in the future :heehee:

Simonsy
2014-02-19, 20:08
What does NTR stand for?

Not the definition, the actual N, T, R letters?

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 20:14
-Next volume will be Irina main volume. Belial will most likely get involved since he has concerns something that took place in Ise's town and Irina+her parents has something to do with it.

I see some revenge thingy here. Maybe the Devil that previously lives in the town before Rias was exterminated by Irina's parents.

Rias did say that their was a Devil that lived in the town before him but vanished. That was when she was looking at the picture with the Holy Sword in it in Volume 3

InfinityDragonGod
2014-02-19, 20:22
I see some revenge thingy here. Maybe the Devil that previously lives in the town before Rias was exterminated by Irina's parents.

Rias did say that their was a Devil that lived in the town before him but vanished. That was when she was looking at the picture with the Holy Sword in it in Volume 3

If it does have to do with revenge, then maybe the Devil that might have been exterminated by Irina's parents was a relative or someone important to the Emperor Belial.

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 20:26
^That's what I was gonna say. I forgot to add that "related to Belial" part :(

kusabireika
2014-02-19, 20:29
0_0 maybe that the reason for belial switch for villain side but there maybe another reason..

i wonder if ross grandmother is a traitor too 0_0

lived_1714
2014-02-19, 21:22
NTR is netorare, which is someone steals girlfriends/lovers/wives from the main characters, which earns my nukes every damn time I cross one. Though I have a secret fetish known as netori.
Anyway, it's official guys, who steals girls from Issei means a Longinus Smasher to their faces, no exception. (But Jabberwocky did nothing like that! Poor Jabberwocky, he didn't want to have a mean look at Great Red.)
Though after this power up, we can place Issei on Tannin level, official, maybe on Tiamat eventually.

Tbolt
2014-02-19, 21:34
Hey Euclid! say hello to my little friend!!! Ddraig were going to use "Longinus Smasher", Leave it to me partner as Ddraig emits a laugh so evil it scares the other DxD members.

MMMMMMMMM! Roasted Euclid, tastes like chicken.

lived_1714
2014-02-19, 21:41
If only we can shoot Euclid with Gender-Swap Ray Gun, then Issei would have a "Grayfia" in his harem, seriously, seeing how beautiful she was in the hot spring, it swayed me so much that I wanted the scenario to happen.

Tbolt
2014-02-19, 21:58
Could that be Fafnir's new dinner dish, Yakitori chicken smothered in panties?

It seems like this Volume is going to start having the Pay Back we all have been wanting.

@lived_1714, If Ise was able to insert the Gender bender gun into his SG like he did Vali's crystal, along with using his dress break he would be the god of battle. No one would be safe.

Newhope
2014-02-19, 22:07
WOW the Rossweisse and Issei illustration is probably the hottest DXD novel picture in a long while, and Euclid is right she realy does look like a younger version of Grayfia.

Swordstriker21
2014-02-19, 22:45
Hey guys. Been a while since I posted but I just had to after that Ross pic. Hnnnngggghhh... Finally. My favorite girl getting her spotlight volume. Oh, and BTW, w/c color of nurse fuku do you want Ross-chan to wear? Pink or White? I personally prefer pink........

And I want to try Fafnirs recipe. Such a novel concept....

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 22:52
What if .... because of that, Fafnir will have his own cooking show in the Underworld (although the ingredients are kinda ... :heh:)!

kazzuya13
2014-02-19, 22:53
Who is the girl in the 17th volume cover?. It doesn't look like it is Rossweisse. Or am I wrong?

sky black swordman
2014-02-19, 22:55
Who is the girl in the 17th volume cover?. It doesn't look like it is Rossweisse. Or am I wrong?

It's Rossweisse.

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 22:55
That's Ross.

cyberdemon
2014-02-19, 22:57
Poor Albion. He officially has it worse than Ddraig and after they finally found some strength together. lol. Not only is he the Ketsuryuukou but his former hosts became followers of the panty dragon. lol. whatever happened to their sekiryuutei victims association? lol

oh great now I have the image of Fafnir standing in front of a pot and stiring a soup made of panties...

It's Rossweisse.

those clothes look too expensive for the 100 yen shop queen lol

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 23:00
Poor Albion. He officially has it worse than Ddraig and after they finally found some strength together. lol. Not only is he the Ketsuryuukou but his former hosts became followers of the panty dragon. lol. whatever happened to their sekiryuutei victims association? lol

oh great now I have the image of Fafnir standing in front of a pot and stiring a soup made of panties...

It became the Panties Appreciation Organization
~Add a chef's hat to Fafnir and the image is perfect. :D

cyberdemon
2014-02-19, 23:02
It became the Panties Appreciation Organization
~Add a chef's hat to Fafnir and the image is perfect. :D

no add a chef's hat made of panties, an apron with panty designs, while he is tooting a tune about panties.

Wonder how Albion is taking all this or is he bawling in the deepest corner of his SG. lol

Tbolt
2014-02-19, 23:07
Albion runs to talk to Ddraig but the only thing he can say is "Dude your on your on with this one."

jopjopjop
2014-02-19, 23:13
While Fafnir is harassing Asia, Rassei is waiting in the corner, silently muttering/thinking.. "Soon Fafnir, soon. Everything you have done to my master will be returned to you threefold".

After Rassei got his revenge, Ddraig and Albion will look up to him and hail him as their savior! And the Two-Heavenly Dragons lived happily ever after.

lived_1714
2014-02-19, 23:39
No, Issei will buy clothes for Rossweisse, I believe she will manage his money after this Vol. Can't let your lovers buy everything herself, that's not Issei's style.

ady623
2014-02-19, 23:42
So theres a translation for the picture where ise and ross are in the bath and holding hands is

"I won’t hand you over. I’ll never let him have you. If he ever appears in front of Rossweisse-san again, I’ll definetly beat him down."

i found it on tumblr so i thought i should share it

Tbolt
2014-02-19, 23:52
@lived_1714, The only problem with Rose managing Ise's money she is going to have to go through Ravel and I don't see that happening.

DrakeKnight
2014-02-20, 00:05
So much questions does Euclid died this volume?
How does Ross's grand mother fit in all this? (Is she one of the bad guys)
What Saji BB powers like

II Maestro
2014-02-20, 00:06
It would be interesting if Rossweisse really manage Ise's money currently the one managing Ise's money is Grayfia so it would be nice if Rossweisse has that role, Rias managing Ise's harem while Ravel manages Ise's schedule as a celebrity.

cyberdemon
2014-02-20, 00:08
@lived_1714, The only problem with Rose managing Ise's money she is going to have to go through Ravel and I don't see that happening.

Not really. Even though Ravel is Issei's manager who handles his daily life and schedule, the one who has been handling his money is Grayfia. Rose would just be taking over for Grayfia as Issei's accountant.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 00:10
So much questions does Euclid died this volume?

He didn't die. He was defeated and caught.

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 00:14
I'm not saying that would be a bad thing but I don't think Grayfia would just say here is Ise's money without consulting Ise. We will just have to see how the relationship grows in relationship to the other girls. But it should be fun watching. Just seeing what we have so far this Volume has so many things I wanted to see.

slugboy
2014-02-20, 00:28
Rose would just be taking over for Grayfia as Issei's accountant.
Thus adding another layer of comparison between Grayfia and Rose, if such a thing were to happen.

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 00:39
@jopjopjop, Can you see the smile on Azazel's face as he tortures Euclid back at the Grigori. All while the other Fallen Angles sit around eating popcorn and giving advice, Azazel! he doesn't need that toenail any more!

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 00:40
The spoilers failed to mention one of the hardest thing to speculate in Volume 17.
Who is Ross' granny that is supposed to be a famous magician? Is she a DxD original or from the myths?

@Tbolt, I sure do! :D

n0m@n
2014-02-20, 00:51
The spoilers failed to mention one of the hardest thing to speculate in Volume 17.
Who is Ross' granny that is supposed to be a famous magician? Is she a DxD original or from the myths?


Oops, you are right.
Sorry, Im not into old women so I forgot:heh:
Anyway her name is Göndul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ndul). Her name also appears in Norse Mythology. Rose told her that Ise's her boyfriend(Which made alot of kinda girl crazy).

teejmo
2014-02-20, 00:59
So, Rose's grandma went about getting kings to fight each other to the death... Well, that's kinda scary. I wonder if this is foretelling something - maybe "Emperor" Belial vs. "Great King" Bael or "Harem King" Ise

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 01:01
@ nom@n, thanks :D

@teejmo, yeah, that maybe why her character was used.

Ultragunner
2014-02-20, 01:08
hey, I thinking we're forgetting sth. Is Ise gonna get a kiss from Ross? Up until now, at the end of the vol for a particular girl, we usually get a kiss, right? For instance, Rias in vol 2, Asia in vol 6, Akeno in Vol 7. Sadly Koneko hasn't got any :mad: (has she?).

Oh come on Ishibumi, ya keep teasing us in a very cruel way :heh:

teejmo
2014-02-20, 01:11
As for Saji's Malebolge Vritra Promotion, Malebolge is the eighth circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno, and the punishment for sinners on this level is ... really bad. Like, for some, if they try to escape it, they get shredded to pieces by various demons. Ouch. So basically, Saji's BB is endless torture? Scary...

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 01:17
As for Saji's Malebolge Vritra Promotion, Malebolge is the eighth circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno, and the punishment for sinners on this level is ... really bad. Like, for some, if they try to escape it, they get shredded to pieces by various demons. Ouch. So basically, Saji's BB is endless torture? Scary...

a horde of demons ("Malebranche", meaning "evil claws") armed with grappling hooks
That may explain why the illustration of Saji's BB have grappling hook-like thingies.

Chris38
2014-02-20, 01:49
Thanks n0m@n for the spoilers, looks like volume 17 is going to be pretty interesting. Although, I don't know what to say about Ise becoming capable of using Longinus Smasher, just because he became capable of using Albion's stolen power without a risk to his life.

Even if it's not as powerful as the move that Ise used in Juggernaut Drive or during the 'combination move' with Great Red since Euclid survived after being hit by it.

I also thought that the confrontation between Euclid and Ise is going to last a little longer, unless he is going to be freed from the prison by Bellial, making the good guys realize that he is a traitor.

Saji attaining Balance Breaker is also a good thing and I wonder how powerful Irina is, in her '4 angel wings mode'.

The only remaining thing that I wonder about is ... how Xenovia actually managed to get such good grades in school :uhoh: :confused:

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 01:54
@Chris, Xenovia is seriously studying to gain some knowledge in Volume 15.
Xenovia says while flicking through the vocabulary notebook.
“I’ve found something I want to do. And in order to accomplish that I need knowledge. So I’m in the middle of studying hard.”

For the Longinus Smasher thing, that may may be to accentuate Ddraig's improving mental stability allowing Issei to access more of Ddraig's power.

II Maestro
2014-02-20, 02:08
Well longinus smasher is a taboo power that isn't meant for Ise to learn yet he was able to use it against Euclid though he survived.

Well considering Ise who is having an irregular growth for who knows what will happen with the mixture of Heavenly Dragon+Apocalypse Dragon+Ouroboros Dragon is a single body.

cyberdemon
2014-02-20, 02:10
Well longinus smasher is a taboo power that isn't meant for Ise to learn yet he was able to use it against Euclid though he survived.

Well considering Ise who is having an irregular growth for who knows what will happen with the mixture of Heavenly Dragon+Apocalypse Dragon+Ouroboros Dragon is a single body.

I'm half expecting Vali to die in the end of the series and have Divine Dividing removed by azazel and equipped to Ise for the final battle of the series. Lol

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 02:15
I wonder how strong is issei now 0_0, congrats saji


Poor albion :( I hope rassei revenge you against fanrir :(

Did vali appear in this volume also n0m@n? Uhm I hope it's ok to ask which side is Ross grandma? Good or Bad I hope it's ok to ask n0m@n :T_T:

Now I'm wondering what will saji limitation is it like issei stamina ?

I also wonder how strong saji bb teehee :heehee: the big question how did holy cross wielder fight saji in detail I'm curious what is her power, coz we know about holy spear and holy grail the only missing is holy cross :nod:

Need to wait a bit longer before this question may be answer, patience is a virtue :T_T:

Chris38
2014-02-20, 02:22
For the Longinus Smasher thing, that may may be to accentuate Ddraig's improving mental stability allowing Issei to access more of Ddraig's power.

Maybe, I hadn't thought from that angel.

Still, it's probably something that Ise is capable of executing while he is in his CCQ mode and it probably has some serious stamina requirements.

Since, like @II Maestro has said it's a taboo power.

On a different topic ... is Rossweisse 'power up' or rather 'hidden ability' is the simple fact that she is a prodigy who was capable of thinking up of a method to seal 666 when she was at a young age ... which, most likely means that she can think up some other things related to magic, or is her power up a completely different thing that is unrelated to the reason why Elucid tried to kidnap her...

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 02:34
On slight different topic I wonder what will happen to vali will be press something just like issei and learn the secret of ejod :p

Saji training from nightmerish hell has begun coz he will train by first and spar with the Longinus user :p because he gain a bb

Ok now I'm curious about irina power up and irina parent need to wait longer before the answer will obtain need alot of patience :T_T:

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 02:38
On a different topic ... is Rossweisse 'power up' or rather 'hidden ability' is the simple fact that she is a prodigy who was capable of thinking up of a method to seal 666 when she was at a young age ... which, most likely means that she can think up some other things related to magic, or is her power up a completely different thing that is unrelated to the reason why Elucid tried to kidnap her...

Well, since she did come up w/ a way to seal Trihexa maybe Qlipoth thinks she can reverse engineer the current seals placed by the biblical God to free it and maybe come up w/ a way to reseal it as insurance.

On another note since Malebolge is comprised of ten bolgia, each w/ a different theme, will Sajis BB gain techniques related to the ten ditches of the eighth circle of hell? He could possibly gain familiars or abilities that correspond w/ the Malebranche as well (Malacoda and co. anyone?). He'll be one hell of a technique type. The possibilities:D

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 02:38
On slight different topic I wonder what will happen to vali will be press something just like issei and learn the secret of ejod :p
The question is, whose butt will it be?

Phoenix221186
2014-02-20, 02:40
so i guess saji levelup cause he didn't want sona to be defeated like before ?

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 02:43
The question is, whose butt will it be?

Need we ask? Isseis of course:D

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 02:46
Need we ask? Isseis of course:D

Or Arthur/or first descendant :p

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 02:47
Need we ask? Isseis of course:D

When Vali slaps Issei's butt, Issei will yelp, "Aahhn" then Albion will say, "Oooh. I can feel some power rising within me" :twitch:

II Maestro
2014-02-20, 02:53
Albion reaction if it will really happen

Vali:Are you ready, Albion?
Albion:[ Ooooooh! Oooaaaaaaah! Oooooooh! ]
Albion began to sob loudly.

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 02:57
Vali: I have finally overcome the final obstacle! My power is now absolute! I have become the ultimate SEME!!!! Now Hyoudou Issei, submit your butt to me and be my UKE!!!!

(fujoshi cheers in the background...)

Kiba: I object!!! That butt is MINE!!!

black prince
2014-02-20, 03:04
Got this from somewhere
http://i.imgur.com/9ViwvFa.png

Ken Sanders
2014-02-20, 03:04
Rose told her that Ise's her boyfriend(Which made alot of kinda girl crazy).

Wow. I never thought that Rose had the guts to say that Ise is her boyfriend, which kinda worries me, though.

Considerably that she has been living in the Hyoudou Residence for a while now. But surely she does know the consequences of saying that line to all the girls in that house.

Especially each and every one of them wants a piece of him.(On a crazy level, that is)

Rias - I think she could accept that fact since she acknowledged his fiances' harem.

Asia - I think she might cry over this one with her usual thing.

Akeno - I think she might be a little bit angry and jealous along with her "affair points".

Koneko - Angry because her territorial lap got taken by Rose.

Ravel - She might have looked into the distance due to the situation again. Or angry and jealous.

Irina & Xenovia - The former is worried and asked God/Michael on what to do, the latter is obviously angry, at least.

Oh, the chaos of Harem Mayhem, sure is rolling around.

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 03:08
Got this from somewhere
http://i.imgur.com/9ViwvFa.png

Hot damn!!! That's one mean looking BB. Can't wait to see it's abilities. Those "tentacle spears" look mean. I'm guessing it's an evolved form of the absorption line. Kamen Rider DxD FTW:D

lived_1714
2014-02-20, 03:09
Dat Uke and Seme...

The new war between Red and White will begin again if Vali does that!!!

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 03:11
Dat Uke and Seme...

The new war between Red and White will begin again if Vali does that!!!

Who can say? Maybe Draig and Albion would actually like it:heh:

charasu
2014-02-20, 03:13
Got this from somewhere
same here:D
http://i.imgur.com/FwVCXEO.png

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 03:15
same here:D
http://i.imgur.com/FwVCXEO.png

Why are the devils in this series siscons? Sirzechs w/ Rias, Raiser w/ Ravel and now Euclid w/ Grayfia:heh: But I get it now. It does give out some NTR vibes huh? Luckily Issei is the NTR smasher.

charasu
2014-02-20, 03:19
Why are the male devils in this series siscons? Sirzechs w/ Rias, Raiser w/ Ravel and now Euclid w/ Grayfia:heh: But I get it now Nom. It does give out some NTR vibes huh? Luckily Issei is the NTR smasher.

don't ya forget sona and seraval:heh:
well NTR is some spice in romance, so this is good one i think, maybe...:confused:

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 03:22
Do wonder if kiryu become a devil will she become like issei but her dream male harem a harem queen? :heehee:

Ok I'm curious about Ross grandma which side is she allied with :T_T:

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 03:30
Do wonder if kiryu become a devil will she become like issei but her dream male harem a harem queen? :heehee:

Big twist: She's actually hella powerful and a major player. A powerful ranker in the Rating Game perhaps. Her megane and pigtails are just disguises. How bout that?

G147
2014-02-20, 03:37
Big twist: She's actually hella powerful and a major player. A powerful ranker in the Rating Game perhaps. Her megane and pigtails are just disguises. How bout that?

That might have worked in the past before the author confirmed her as a normal human only.

shegzy85
2014-02-20, 04:32
Hot damn!!! That's one mean looking BB. Can't wait to see it's abilities. Those "tentacle spears" look mean. I'm guessing it's an evolved form of the absorption line. Kamen Rider DxD FTW:D

Hello I'm new here. Got directed here from another site but I just gotta say something;

That's some really really cool balance breaker Saji achieved. I'd kinda know that his balance breaker was gonna be an armored type but that image really exceeded my expectation.

Hokoga
2014-02-20, 06:34
Vali: I have finally overcome the final obstacle! My power is now absolute! I have become the ultimate SEME!!!! Now Hyoudou Issei, submit your butt to me and be my UKE!!!!

(fujoshi cheers in the background...)

Kiba: I object!!! That butt is MINE!!!

lol, kinda reminded me of when Issei said "President Rias Gremory's virginity belongs to me!":heh:
well NTR is some spice in romance, so this is good one i think, maybe...:confused: All this talk about NTR makes me want to see a volume where Issei gets taken from his harem by another woman. Of course she would have to be someone powerful like a goddess who seduces and controls men easily, and all the girls would have to fight to get him back.

borisdrakoni
2014-02-20, 06:54
All this talk about NTR kinda makes me want to see a volume where Issei gets taken from his harem by another woman. Of course she would have to be someone powerful like a goddess who seduces and controls men easily, and all the girls would have to fight to get him back.

Lol, did you read the onsen side story? Though in the future there's always the possibility of Lillith/Ophis or Chichigami. Though for awhile now I've been wondering if Chichigami won't somehow turn out to be Ise from the future.

Avaricia
2014-02-20, 07:03
Do wonder if kiryu become a devil will she become like issei but her dream male harem a harem queen? :heehee:

Ok I'm curious about Ross grandma which side is she allied with :T_T:

Tiamat indisguise :hyper-^v^:

Hokoga
2014-02-20, 07:06
Lol, did you read the onsen side story? Though in the future there's always the possibility of Lillith/Ophis or Chichigami. Though for awhile now I've been wondering if Chichigami won't somehow turn out to be Ise from the future.
For Rizevim that would be a big let down, since he only took action because of Issei making contact with a god from another world(Chichigami).
For me it would just be a total MIND F*#Khttp://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/bad-blood/yolks/48/O-O-icon.png

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 08:18
Wow. I never thought that Rose had the guts to say that Ise is her boyfriend, which kinda worries me, though.

Considerably that she has been living in the Hyoudou Residence for a while now. But surely she does know the consequences of saying that line to all the girls in that house.

Especially each and every one of them wants a piece of him.(On a crazy level, that is)

Rias - I think she could accept that fact since she acknowledged his fiances' harem.

Asia - I think she might cry over this one with her usual thing.

Akeno - I think she might be a little bit angry and jealous along with her "affair points".

Koneko - Angry because her territorial lap got taken by Rose.

Ravel - She might have looked into the distance due to the situation again. Or angry and jealous.

Irina & Xenovia - The former is worried and asked God/Michael on what to do, the latter is obviously angry, at least.

Oh, the chaos of Harem Mayhem, sure is rolling around.

It's not going to bother the girls at all, the harem order is set and Rose is last in line.

XFire
2014-02-20, 08:24
Got this from somewhere
http://i.imgur.com/9ViwvFa.png

0_0

Damn, that actually looks even more badass than Ise's armor. Nice one, Saji.

Now if Sona would just fall for him already.... Actually, forget that, his suffering is too funny to end.

black prince
2014-02-20, 08:55
0_0

Damn, that actually looks even more badass than Ise's armor. Nice one, Saji.

Now if Sona would just fall for him already.... Actually, forget that, his suffering is too funny to end.

You're evil :heh: but I kinda agree, Saji's suffering is too funny :p

Gary29
2014-02-20, 08:59
It's not going to bother the girls at all, the harem order is set and Rose is last in line.

I thought only the top 4 (Rias, Asia, Akeno and Koneko) were set in stone? It'd be a nice twist if Rose was 5th.

II Maestro
2014-02-20, 09:45
Girls in ORC categories 3 Onee-san who like Ise(Rias, Akeno, & Rossweisse), 3 of the same age & year as Ise(Asia,Xenovia, & Irina), 2 younger than Ise(Koneko & Ravel).

Ise using dragon bits & longinus smasher he has finally become Strike Freedom Gundam.

darkofficer
2014-02-20, 10:10
0_0

Damn, that actually looks even more badass than Ise's armor. Nice one, Saji.

Now if Sona would just fall for him already.... Actually, forget that, his suffering is too funny to end.

His pain is our enjoyment.

And when will he notice that those 2 other girls like him

At least the vicepresident is improving ( i hope )

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 10:45
You're evil :heh: but I kinda agree, Saji's suffering is too funny :p

just wait till Ise tells Saji that he has had skinship with Rose in the bath. I see drugs and booze in Sajis future.

XFire
2014-02-20, 10:46
His pain is our enjoyment.

And when will he notice that those 2 other girls like him

At least the vicepresident is improving ( i hope )

Agreed.

Never :D

Well, she was mentioned in the teaser, so we can hope so. Apparently the author realized he went too far with the Ise x Kiba / Ise x Gasper jokes and is now hurrying to get them girlfriends. :heh:

Simonsy
2014-02-20, 10:47
Why are the devils in this series siscons? Sirzechs w/ Rias, Raiser w/ Ravel and now Euclid w/ Grayfia:heh: But I get it now. It does give out some NTR vibes huh? Luckily Issei is the NTR smasher.

Rise doesn't have a siscon. He is always going on about Rias and wants her bad.

He just put Ravel on his team to piss off Issei when they fought back then. Just to say "look I have my sister on my harem team"

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 10:58
Rise doesn't have a siscon. He is always going on about Rias and wants her bad.

He just put Ravel on his team to piss off Issei when they fought back then. Just to say "look I have my sister on my harem team"

Ravel was on her brothers team long before the story started.

jasper222
2014-02-20, 11:12
I thought only the top 4 (Rias, Asia, Akeno and Koneko) were set in stone? It'd be a nice twist if Rose was 5th.

Wasn't there a line from Rias' mom that she acknowledged Asia and Akeno as 2nd and 3rd? I don't know about Koneko though, a proposal is just a proposal until approved by the parents.

Diocar
2014-02-20, 11:39
Wasn t the objective to make ise develop his natural abilities instead of his SG?
And what do the mini dragons boost? The attacks that they reflect?
can he use the dragons for other things besides reflecting and dividing? Like for ex bite, scracth or breath fire?

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 12:02
Wasn't there a line from Rias' mom that she acknowledged Asia and Akeno as 2nd and 3rd? I don't know about Koneko though, a proposal is just a proposal until approved by the parents.


it's obvious that it would get approved since all the girls fawning over issei are all capable women.

the legal wife will be Rias the heir to the gremory family and we all know how a capable girl she is having her new one shot kill skill

2nd will be asia with twilight healing and she has rassei and fafnir 2 dragons as familiars

3rd is akeno who's half devil/fallen angel she possesses extreme skill in lighting and holy magic and since she's been absorbing the dragon aura from issei has now made a freaking lightning/holy dragon that can defend/attack at will

4th will be koneko who's being trained in senjutsu by kuroka and has the ultimate purification transformation wich can purify aka kill any evil being

5th is xenovia who has the complete excalibur/durandel once she masters all the forms from excalibur she's gonna be one hell off a beast

6th irina an ace angel who's gonna get her power up in volume 18 and we'll probably find out what the promise was between issei and irina since she mentioned it once before wich im assuming would be a marriage promise so she'll be put on her getting serious pants after vol 18 so myeah

7th ravel phoenix having a supply of phoenix tears means wealth and safety and also we don't even know what her combat capability is yet but we'll find out soon i hope
she fell in love with him once he beat the crap out of raiser and pretty much became obsessed with his every move after that wich in turn lead to her coming to japan and staying at issei's place + becoming his manager so yeah she's all about issei and we also have the approval of her parents since they asked him to take care of her

8th kuroka a master at senjutsu/genjutsu and other stuff i forgot
for people trying to argue i mean reread the novels she fawns all over issei thanks to him she got reunited with kurone and they're fixing their relationship thanks to him
i know she only wanted a dragon to impregnate her but she quickly changed that tune and fell head over heels for him

9th le fay a genius magician who's mastered pretty much everything at this point and has fenrir/gogmagar or something as familiars
also arthur has said multiple times that he approves of her staying with issei since she'll be able to have a happy life with him so you know it's a done deal especially since she's totally a huge fan of oppai dragon and acts all cutesy around issei we'll be seeing her going serious once issei and le fay make the magician pact

10th Ophis you don't think she's gonna stay a mascot forever right? she's probably gonna fuse with lilith at some point (and if she matures enough she'll probably transform into an adult form) and we know how she see's issei
he's her savior i mean she keeps bringing up great red but im sure she doesn't really care about fighting it anymore
she's enjoying her happy peacefull life with issei and the girls and always stay's close to him if that aint love i don't know what is

11th rossweisse another genius magician who's mastered multiple attack/defence magic spells and is also great with money so that'l come in handy when increasing the gremory's wealth


i think i got them all i mean the gremory family would be insane to reject ANY of these girls to be added to issei's harem
they're all capable/kind/intelligent/beautiful women they'l be sure to add to issei's strength/wealth/reputation wich in turn will all be added to the gremory's

jeez issei i love ya man but i think i wanna stab ya a few times with rusty forks

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 12:12
Hey, someone think if there was an improvement of Sona feelings to Saji after see him with his new Armor and getting the BB.

Or maybe she put more attention to issei after see him save her school even putting his life at risk of death.

Maybe the jealousy of saji activated his BB?

DragoMuseveni
2014-02-20, 12:49
I wonder how vali reacts when he see that previous hakuryuukous like panties . It will be kinda funny . I wonder if vali start to show interest in women

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 12:58
I wonder how vali reacts when he see that previous hakuryuukous like panties . It will be kinda funny . I wonder if vali start to show interest in women

the chance of vali showing interest in women is close to 0
it has been said multiple times by multiple people that vali has NEVER shown any interest in women
it's not that he hates them but he just doesn't care for romance or the womanly body although he did say he like'd women's hips or was it legs? i can't remember although he only said that because if he had to name a woman's body part is would be that so myeah he has 0 interest in women

hes a battle maniac and has an abnormal interest in issei since he knows issei is gonna give him his dream fight
the fight he desire's is a fight to the death with an unstoppable force and that's what issei is quickly turning out to be
it's probably also the reason why he saved asia in the dimensional rift since he knew if issei loses even a single girl it'l break him wich in turn will weaken him wich in turn will rob vali of the fight he desire's

DragoMuseveni
2014-02-20, 13:18
Maybe so but who knows , cuz ichibumi is good at suprising us with every book he launched . Who knows if vali character changes . If albion and draig who fought each other for over a milenium , maybe vali will change . Or maybe he will remain the same asshole till now

darkofficer
2014-02-20, 13:26
just wait till Ise tells Saji that he has had skinship with Rose in the bath. I see drugs and booze in Sajis future.

Wait till issei tell sanji that he saw sona naked or in a swimsuit. He will go berserk.

But now he can go balance breaker and turn into a giant dragon. Right ?

debrr07
2014-02-20, 13:35
Daayuuumm :mad::frustrated:

For some reason, maybe the Ise fanboy inside me, but it's annoying me that Saji's BB armor looks more awesome than Ise's BB armor...as long as it's not more powerful, I'm happy !

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 13:37
Wait till issei tell sanji that he saw sona naked or in a swimsuit. He will go berserk.

But now he can go balance breaker and turn into a giant dragon. Right ?

Currently issei is mentally preparing himself to fight against saji, he confirm it in VOL 15:

Sona-kaichou is wearing a one piece type swimsuit with cute patterns on it. This is simply something you would say is rare! Isn’t Kaichou in swimsuit something you wouldn’t be able to see so often!?
“I’m sure Ise-kun is the first man to see me in a swimsuit besides my family.”
Kaichou says something like that! Seriously!? Saji, I’m sorry! I think I stole another first-time thing from you again! It feels like I will be cursed to death by him for real……

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 13:44
Daayuuumm :mad::frustrated:

For some reason, maybe the Ise fanboy inside me, but it's annoying me that Saji's BB armor looks more awesome than Ise's BB armor...as long as it's not more powerful, I'm happy !

I am agree with you, I am also a little depressed about the fact that we dont have seen a picture issei using his Armor since Volume 9, we not have seen his Cardinal Crimson Queen and now activating his New Dragons to divide and reflect.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...dxd_v9_317.jpg

And the new armor of Saji BB looks cool.
http://forums.animesuki.com/group.ph...ictureid=52640

But we do not have seen Issei Armor development for a long Time. :(

Only the idea of that Vitra is the weakest Dragon King calm me. But the armor design is a little more impresive than issei armor.

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 13:59
Wait till issei tell sanji that he saw sona naked or in a swimsuit. He will go berserk.

But now he can go balance breaker and turn into a giant dragon. Right ?

I was just going to post that after the battle when Saji is doing hero poses to try and impress Sona, Ise is going to whisper in Sajis ear "hey Saji last week I saw Sona in her bathing suit at my house". Then stand back and watch the sparks fly.

II Maestro
2014-02-20, 14:00
Saji's BB looks nasty as you would expect of Vritra who is an evil dragon wonder how strong Saji is in physical combat since in his dragon king form he is always in a berserk state and lose control and would just go on a rampage.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 14:07
I am a little confused after read the blog of n0m@n,

So my favourite character finally takes the spotlight in volume 18. Though it felt like Saji was the other heroine of this volume…

Does he mean that saji act as a woman and while issei help him again he get the BB????

http://shincodezeroblog.wordpress.com/

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 14:30
I am a little confused after read the blog of n0m@n,

So my favourite character finally takes the spotlight in volume 18. Though it felt like Saji was the other heroine of this volume…

Does he mean that saji act as a woman and while issei help him again he get the BB????

http://shincodezeroblog.wordpress.com/

the first part of the sentence is refering to irina since she's the main char in volume 18 and also his favorite character he mentions it somewhere in this topic

second part is about that rossweisse should've been the main heroine in vol 17 but he felt like saji took a part of the spotlight
(that saji bastard taking up space that should've been for rossweisse)

i think that's what he meant or i could also be completely wrong >_>

XFire
2014-02-20, 14:50
Oh boy, the Saji hate is starting to rear its head. I wouldn't worry about him actually being stronger than Ise, though. Saji's the technique type, so Ise will still win out over him in power.

About Vali ever being interested in women, I have an idea about that.

There could be a SS where Ise gets gender-bent, and the usual antics occur. Sometime during this, Vali sees fem!Ise w/o realizing who it is and feels an inexplicable connection to her. After the story ends, Ise runs into Vali and co, and it turns out that Vali spent the whole day looking for the strange girl. His team is having a field day over the fact that he noticed a girl, while Vali just seems slightly confused at his own behavior. Ise meanwhile is quietly freaking out to himself.

peinmaximus@
2014-02-20, 14:55
Hey guys,someone know if Saji's BB is most powerful than Ise's BB?
I hope that not.Lately,the author is making others characters become most powerful than Ise(how Rias with her new skill and Gasper),that is the MC.
Also,lately,the author is given the best power up to others characters that are not the MC.This is illogical.
If one secondary character how Saji has a stronger armor than Ise,the MC,I will start think that the author has become crazy.
What you think,Wild Lion?

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 14:59
Oh boy, the Saji hate is starting to rear its head. I wouldn't worry about him actually being stronger than Ise, though. Saji's the technique type, so Ise will still win out over him in power.

About Vali ever being interested in women, I have an idea about that.

There could be a SS where Ise gets gender-bent, and the usual antics occur. Sometime during this, Vali sees fem!Ise w/o realizing who it is and feels an inexplicable connection to her. After the story ends, Ise runs into Vali and co, and it turns out that Vali spent the whole day looking for the strange girl. His team is having a field day over the fact that he noticed a girl, while Vali just seems slightly confused at his own behavior. Ise meanwhile is quietly freaking out to himself.

good thinking on the vali falling in love with a girl issei part
sadly it has already been mentioned in the novels that the gender bender gun that azazel invented has been sealed or destroyed since it transformed all the girls in the club into guys and it destroyed issei if i remember correctly also kiba as a girl was too much for issei to bear so it had to be sealed since we all know kiba would totally use it again to jump on issei at some point
damn issei you're really popular!

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 15:00
@pein no comment answering your question is kinda .....


I'm happy that saji has become strong :nod:

debrr07
2014-02-20, 15:11
Oh boy, the Saji hate is starting to rear its head. I wouldn't worry about him actually being stronger than Ise, though. Saji's the technique type, so Ise will still win out over him in power.

About Vali ever being interested in women, I have an idea about that.

There could be a SS where Ise gets gender-bent, and the usual antics occur. Sometime during this, Vali sees fem!Ise w/o realizing who it is and feels an inexplicable connection to her. After the story ends, Ise runs into Vali and co, and it turns out that Vali spent the whole day looking for the strange girl. His team is having a field day over the fact that he noticed a girl, while Vali just seems slightly confused at his own behavior. Ise meanwhile is quietly freaking out to himself.

Saji technique type or whatever type, him having the weakest Dragon King (don't get me wrong, Vritra still a boss) going up against Ise who has a heavenly dragon does not a stand a chance

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 15:13
Hey guys,someone know if Saji's BB is most powerful than Ise's BB?
I hope that not.Lately,the author is making others characters become most powerful than Ise(how Rias with her new skill and Gasper),that is the MC.
Also,lately,the author is given the best power up to others characters that are not the MC.This is illogical.
If one secondary character how Saji has a stronger armor than Ise,the MC,I will start think that the author has become crazy.
What you think,Wild Lion?

of course everyone is getting a power up they felt anger and despair at themselves for not being able to stand side by side with issei and not being able to help him against these insane opponents
they already almost lost him once they won't let it happen again and in terms of combat potential issei would destroy saji it has been mentioned that issei gains the longinus smasher in vol 17 just one of those and saji's toast remember the jaberwocky?
even sirzech's team couldn't take it down yet issei took it out with one longinus smasher
yes he had great red's help but still just imagine the sheer power that attack has to pull that off
issei has long since reached ultimate class in sheer power for saji that's nothing but a dream.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 15:32
Hey guys,someone know if Saji's BB is most powerful than Ise's BB?
I hope that not.Lately,the author is making others characters become most powerful than Ise(how Rias with her new skill and Gasper),that is the MC.
Also,lately,the author is given the best power up to others characters that are not the MC.This is illogical.
If one secondary character how Saji has a stronger armor than Ise,the MC,I will start think that the author has become crazy.
What you think,Wild Lion?

Hi friend, I understand your point of view, but we must remember that the name of this ARC is "The Legend of Oppai Dragon and his Lively Companions", for that reason the author is given the secondary characters power ups, although this made Issei lost his place as the "Central Pillar", BUT, from my point of view, if issei get a power up with his Dragon aura and NOT with the Armor, then he will be able do confront Rizevim Livan Lucifer, and returning to be "Central Pillar", the one most powerfull even without the armor, but this is just a future speculation, currently he is begining to activate the Longinus Smasher, and his Dragons to Divide, Reflect and Boost. As Draig Said, he is a Baby True Dragon.

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 16:18
@WILD_LION, I think you hit pretty close to home and I think everyone is getting there power ups because Rizevim still has some crazy strong allies.

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 16:25
I think vali need upgrade too to fight against his grandpa also to stand toe to toe with his rival issei because both them are heavenly dragon it's unfair if issei always have new power up and make him op then vali who consider op :heehee:

debrr07
2014-02-20, 16:36
Hey guys,someone know if Saji's BB is most powerful than Ise's BB?
I hope that not.Lately,the author is making others characters become most powerful than Ise(how Rias with her new skill and Gasper),that is the MC.
Also,lately,the author is given the best power up to others characters that are not the MC.This is illogical.
If one secondary character how Saji has a stronger armor than Ise,the MC,I will start think that the author has become crazy.
What you think,Wild Lion?

Tbh I find it refreshing that it's the other characters as opposed to the main character, Ise, getting stronger through their new power ups but obviously Ise will get a power up that will out do the rest

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 16:45
I think vali need upgrade too to fight against his grandpa also to stand toe to toe with his rival issei because both them are heavenly dragon it's unfair if issei always have new power up and make him op then vali who consider op :heehee:

I am agree with you @kusabireika, vali also need a power up, to confront Rizevim Livan Lucifer, but we must remember an IMPORTANT FACT, "Lilith is the bodyguard of Rizevim", this means that if Issei or Vali try to kill Rizevim, then Lilith will try to stop them. It was the same case when Xenovia try to kill him with her sword in VOL16, Lilith stop it with a finger.

We do not know what will happen with Lilith????
Or of where she comes, my doubt is:
1) Is she a NEW entity created with the power of Ophis?
2) Or the SOUL of someone was put in a new body created with a flesh of ""we do not know"?

We Only know that she is interested in Issei and she is the bodyguard of Rizevim, nothing more....

peinmaximus@
2014-02-20, 16:53
Wild Lion,you think that in vol 18 we will see an epic fight between Ise and Belial?
And when you think that Ise will start to discover his Infinite and Dream powers?

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 16:57
I am agree with you @kusabireika, vali also need a power up, to confront Rizevim Livan Lucifer, but we must remember an IMPORTANT FACT, "Lilith is the bodyguard of Rizevim", this means that if Issei or Vali try to kill Rizevim, then Lilith will try to stop them. It was the same case when Xenovia try to kill him with her sword in VOL16, Lilith stop it with a finger.

We do not know what will happen with Lilith????
Or of where she comes, my doubt is:
1) Is she a NEW entity created with the power of Ophis?
2) Or the SOUL of someone was put in a new body created with a flesh of ""we do not know"?

We Only know that she is interested in Issei and she is the bodyguard of Rizevim, nothing more....
Well for me I think maybe ophis or issei will handle lilith while vali fight his grandpa why I said this because issei new skill is good against lilith why because issei new powerup is good match up against her also issei has Longinus smasher but not as strong as great red + ddraig + issei Longinus Longinus smasher if you think logically about it, also vali must prove himself that he is strong so we need him to have powerup

Speaking of which I'm curious about the fight of saji and holy cross user I wonder how the fight goes,

I'm really curious where does Ross grandma loyalty lies good or bad

But I need to patient about Ross grandma :( info need to wait patiently :T_T:


Wild Lion,you think that in vol 18 we will see an epic fight between Ise and Belial?
And when you think that Ise will start to discover his Infinite and Dream powers?
Be patient you know the author must build up story before belial fight against rias peerage begun >_<

Chris38
2014-02-20, 17:03
^ Lilith is created from the power that was stolen from Ophis. Rizevim confirmed that in volume 16, in one of his 'talking scenes'.

Regarding the Ise becoming less powerful then the other members of the group, I think some of you have a mistaken perspective.

Since to me Ise is still the strongest member of the Gremory group and neither of the groups new moves have surpassed him from that position - although Gasper's Balor mode might provide him with some difficulties.

The reason why Ise is also getting less flashy 'power ups' is also because of the fact that he is the strongest member of the Gremory group and him gaining too many power ups ... would break the story in some way, by either making the enemies too powerful for the other members of the group to do anything to them or by having the enemies that Ise would confront become too easy for him to defeat.

Furthermore it's not like Ise isn't gaining any power ups, since him unlocking the capability to use Longinus Smasher on his own, definitely rises his 'level'.

@peinmaximus

I think that volume 18 would be too early for the confrontation between Belial and Ise, since I doubt his traitor status is going to be revealed in a single volume.

As for when Ise will start using his mixed Great Red and Ophis powers ... it will probably happen after we receive some hints that Ise's body is becoming more stable, and at the moment we have no hints about that.

If I have to put a guess, I think that we might see some development in that regard in volume 20, since I think that some time must pass with Sun Wukong's training, before this matter is going to be brought up.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 17:08
Wild Lion,you think that in vol 18 we will see an epic fight between Ise and Belial?
And when you think that Ise will start to discover his Infinite and Dream powers?

For the fight fight between Issei and Belial, i calculate an 85% of possibility, but we need more information to speculate the circumstances, but it will be great, "Demon Emperor against Dragon Emperor".

About the second question, currently i do not know, but i imagine that it will be after the autor finish of give power up to all issei friends, and return to give issei the main attention of all the members of DxD team.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 17:18
Well for me I think maybe ophis or issei will handle lilith while vali fight his grandpa why I said this because issei new skill is good against lilith why because issei new powerup is good match up against her also issei has Longinus smasher but not as strong as great red + ddraig + issei Longinus Longinus smasher if you think logically about it, also vali must prove himself that he is strong so we need him to have powerup

We also do not know what will happen with the "Confusion", I mean that for everyone Ophis is Lilith, and she is now the bodyguard of Rizevim Livan Lucifer, only a little number of people know the True about the case.

I mean, maybe isse free her from being the bodyguard of Rizevim.
Maybe ophis kill her and recover her powers.
We do not know???

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 17:28
We also do not know what will happen with the "Confusion", I mean that for everyone Ophis is Lilith, and she is now the bodyguard of Rizevim Livan Lucifer, only a little number of people know the True about the case.

I mean, maybe isse free her from being the bodyguard of Rizevim.
Maybe ophis kill her and recover her powers.
We do not know???

At least both of them handle lilith while vali focus on his grandpa :heehee:

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 17:44
Ise only needs two things to bring Lilith over, and that's a large great red stuffed animal and a Bento.

Avaricia
2014-02-20, 17:49
What the fuck! Tone down the bold letters!

Diocar
2014-02-20, 17:51
Ise should fight emp belial in a rating game, and in the end, when the only ones let are ise and rias belial should do some traitorous thing.
It would be a waste to not use belial's position in the rating games...

jasper222
2014-02-20, 17:52
it's obvious that it would get approved since all the girls fawning over issei are all capable women

i think i got them all i mean the gremory family would be insane to reject ANY of these girls to be added to issei's harem
they're all capable/kind/intelligent/beautiful women they'l be sure to add to issei's strength/wealth/reputation wich in turn will all be added to the gremory's

jeez issei i love ya man but i think i wanna stab ya a few times with rusty forks

Yeah I know but currently, I mean. I know that Missus Gremory recognizes 3 girls, and I wanted to know if the other ones are also recognized by her.

Also, if Le Fay, Bennia, and Sona would join the harem sooner or later. I know Abe backed out lol, but it wouldn't harm Issei to have a human in the group. :)

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 17:52
At least both of them handle lilith while vali focus on his grandpa :heehee:

Now that we are talking about Vali, what do you think will happen with Valli or CaoCao in the future?

I mean, both of them can betray DxD Team, even Vali said it, that for the moment he will be part of the team to get his objective(Kill Rizevim Livan Lucifer).

And CaoCao desire to kill Issei.

Do you think that in the future Kuroka and Le Fay abandon Vali team, to keep with issei?

Or maybe both of them abandon issei, to go with Vali?

What do you think?

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 17:53
What the fuck! Tone down the bold letters!

Errr were just used to pein just ignore it :T_T: it's unlikely he will stop either way lets change the topic I wonder what will be theories on vali powerup I wonder if it will be fanrir that might help vali gain some powerup and make albion cry :p

Yeah I know but currently, I mean. I know that Missus Gremory recognizes 3 girls, and I wanted to know if the other ones are also recognized by her.




Also, if Le Fay, Bennia, and Sona would join the harem sooner or later. I know Abe backed out lol, but it wouldn't harm Issei to have a human in the group. :)

Sona will be on saji harem I won't allow it :p because issei have many girls in harem it won't be bad if sona is given to saji because he did reach bb so part of the reason might be sona is in danger :nod:


Now that we are talking about Vali, what do you think will happen with Valli or CaoCao in the future?

I mean, both of them can betray DxD Team, even Vali said it, that for the moment he will be part of the team to get his objective(Kill Rizevim Livan Lucifer).

And CaoCao desire to kill Issei.

Do you think that in the future Kuroka and Le Fay abandon Vali team, to keep with issei?

Or maybe both of them abandon issei, to go with Vali?

What do you think?
Lets wait and see still for me vali and issei will be friendnemies :p

Gary29
2014-02-20, 17:56
Ise should fight emp belial in a rating game, and in the end, when the only ones let are ise and rias belial should do some traitorous thing.
It would be a waste to not use belial's position in the rating games...

It won't be possible to fight him in a Rating Game though, since if he's a traitor the Devils definitely won't let him partake in a fight where he can survive and get healed by their medics. Unless he initiates a Rating Game challenge to them sometime soon (as it would take way too long to reach him by normal rules) as a 'friendly game', but why do that when he can kill them in a real battle? It'd also have to be before he is revealed to be affiliated with Rizevim.

Now that we are talking about Vali, what do you think will happen with Valli or CaoCao in the future?

I mean, both of them can betray DxD Team, even Vali said it, that for the moment he will be part of the team to get his objective(Kill Rizevim Livan Lucifer).

And CaoCao desire to kill Issei.

Do you think that in the future Kuroka and Le Fay abandon Vali team, to keep with issei?

Or maybe both of them abandon issei, to go with Vali?

What do you think?

From what we know so far I think it's safe to say Cao Cao will be joining the good guys. Vali probably won't betray DxD given his current nature; he's not the same guy from Vol4 who joined the Khaos Brigade. Kuroka and Le Fay will probably stay with both, though I could see them leaving Vali's team if/when he runs out of opponents to kill. Living at Ise's house and being a part of Vali's team; then again if they join Ise's peerage, that'd occur after they leave Vali's team. And to make that theory possible, he has to let them leave for a reason outside no more enemies to fight, since I doubt he will run out of enemies during the storyline.

Nihgthawk
2014-02-20, 18:01
Got this from somewhere
http://i.imgur.com/9ViwvFa.png

So I was rereading some old volumes of DxD and came across this name, Shien, and thought it might be the women in the picture. She was mentioned in volume 14 in the Maverick Wizard chapter.

jasper222
2014-02-20, 18:08
Sona will be on saji harem I won't allow it :p because issei have many girls in harem it won't be bad if sona is given to saji because he did reach bb so part of the reason might be sona is in danger :nod:

If Sona gravitates towards Saji this time then I'm alright with it. But I think this is more on the destruction of the school rather than Sona being in danger. Sona is too intelligent to get caught in a trap the same way the Gremory girls do on a regular basis.

I also find it irritating that Sona's intelligence isn't rated as high as the Gremory members' special powers. I mean I find it better than Gasper's undeveloped Balor power, as far as RIGHT NOW goes.

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 18:12
If Sona gravitates towards Saji this time then I'm alright with it. But I think this is more on the destruction of the school rather than Sona being in danger. Sona is too intelligent to get caught in a trap the same way the Gremory girls do on a regular basis.

I also find it irritating that Sona's intelligence isn't rated as high as the Gremory members' special powers. I mean I find it better than Gasper's undeveloped Balor power, as far as RIGHT NOW goes.

Time will tell, beside she never foresaw it.... Sona is still strong due to her intellect she might be the brain of dxd :heehee:

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 18:16
Sona versus Azazel in a chess match.. who do you think would win? :confused:

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 18:19
Sona will be on saji harem I won't allow it :p because issei have many girls in harem it won't be bad if sona is given to saji because he did reach bb so part of the reason might be sona is in danger :nod:


The problem is that Sona has stated that she only see saji as a kid, At the time in which Issei suggested she take a date with saji, she said issei that she only see saji as her little brother.

And the big problem is that saji activates his BB while he was thinking in Issei, and not in Sona by the spoiler:

...... I can not be a " Issei Hyodo " . So , I 'll ...... ! - Saji-moto Shiro

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 18:21
Sona versus Azazel in a chess match.. who do you think would win? :confused:

In plain intellect sona , if its trickery or something related to that azazel

@WILD_LION I will firmly believe that sona will fall on saji sometime in the future and I won't argue with you so lets leave on that ok?

cyberdemon
2014-02-20, 18:21
Sona versus Azazel in a chess match.. who do you think would win? :confused:

Azazel would just use mind games rather than strategy to throw Sona off and force her to make mistakes. lol

Gary29
2014-02-20, 18:33
If Sona gravitates towards Saji this time then I'm alright with it. But I think this is more on the destruction of the school rather than Sona being in danger. Sona is too intelligent to get caught in a trap the same way the Gremory girls do on a regular basis.

I also find it irritating that Sona's intelligence isn't rated as high as the Gremory members' special powers. I mean I find it better than Gasper's undeveloped Balor power, as far as RIGHT NOW goes.

Since when do the Gremory girls get caught in traps on a regular basis? They're pretty smart. (I don't consider kidnapping falling for a trap)

Regarding Sona, I guess you can look at it from the perspective of Gasper Balor is sort of a broken power for the Rating Game (Like Rias' Extinguish Star), yet Sona's high level of intelligence doesn't really break the Rating Game system. Or devils are simply attracted to power over all else.

jasper222
2014-02-20, 18:41
Since when do the Gremory girls get caught in traps on a regular basis? They're pretty smart. (I don't consider kidnapping falling for a trap)

Regarding Sona, I guess you can look at it from the perspective of Gasper Balor is sort of a broken power for the Rating Game (Like Rias' Extinguish Star), yet Sona's high level of intelligence doesn't really break the Rating Game system. Or devils are simply attracted to power over all else.

Well, might have worded that incorrectly. But still, the Gremory girls get immobilized a lot.

That may be true about the devils, but I don't think they'd look for power really. If they did then they'd make capturing Issei or Kiba a priority, just that Issei's too much of an idiot to be consistent and Kiba's too loyal? I don't know what their criteria are.

Someone also tell me when Irina will get a volume to herself? I know Xenovia's next but her?

black prince
2014-02-20, 18:44
So I was rereading some old volumes of DxD and came across this name, Shien, and thought it might be the women in the picture. She was mentioned in volume 14 in the Maverick Wizard chapter.

If Holy Cross wielder's name is Shien then she is

Gary29
2014-02-20, 18:46
Well, might have worded that incorrectly. But still, the Gremory girls get immobilized a lot.

That may be true about the devils, but I don't think they'd look for power really. If they did then they'd make capturing Issei or Kiba a priority, just that Issei's too much of an idiot to be consistent and Kiba's too loyal? I don't know what their criteria are.

Someone also tell me when Irina will get a volume to herself? I know Xenovia's next but her?

That's probably because they're pretty big targets, and some enemies assume they can survive Ise's wrath. Gremory group is the #1 young devil's team right now I believe.

Are you talking about in Rating Games or the Khaos Brigade? You threw me off with "capturing" and "Ise's too much of an idiot to be consistent and Kiba's too loyal".

Next volume is Irina's, Xenovia's volume is volume 19.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 18:49
if we're talking about cao cao he really wants to fight issei again since he's fascinated with his existence but then again cao cao is gonna have to stand in line

i mean saoriaorg bael wants to fight him vali wants to fight him you name it they want a piece of issei that's just how insane his growth has been and he's entranced every male he's pretty much fought up to this point

vali isn't gonna betray DxD team unless they stand in his way wich they obviously won't
he'll just join when their interests collide and ignore them when they don't it's that simple he'll just stay close to keep a close eye on issei to see his growth for their fated fight

about kuroka and le fay they're both vali's pieces so either he lets them go or gives them to issei in a trade
since it's obvious they wanna stay with him so im thinking ishibumi (the author) i don't really remember his name? will just keep it as it is so they live at issei's and go to vali whenever he needs them

we probably won't be able to see anything change in this till issei become's a high class devil and gets his chess pieces
i foresee a tsunami of women coming at him once he does though since i mean he's one of the heavenly dragons able to fight god level opponents and he's also the famous oppai dragon hes strong/famous and rich since he's getting a cut from the oppai dragon franchise
hes a desirable piece of man meat isn't he i can only imagine the chaos that'l ensue once he become's a high class devil it'l be a treat!

Gary29
2014-02-20, 18:54
if we're talking about cao cao he really wants to fight issei again since he's fascinated with his existence but then again cao cao is gonna have to stand in line

i mean saoriaorg bael wants to fight him vali wants to fight him you name it they want a piece of issei that's just how insane his growth has been and he's entranced every male he's pretty much fought up to this point

vali isn't gonna betray DxD team unless they stand in his way wich they obviously won't
he'll just join when their interests collide and ignore them when they don't it's that simple he just wants to keep a close eye on issei to see his growth for their fated fight

about kuroka and le fay they're both vali's pieces so either he lets them go or gives them to issei in a trade
since it's obvious they wanna stay with him so im thinking ishibumi (the author) i don't really remember his name? will just keep it as it is so they live at issei's and go to vali whenever he needs them

we probably won't be able to see anything change in this till issei become's a high class devil and gets his chess pieces
i foresee a tsunami of women coming at him once he does though since i mean he's one of the heavenly dragons able to fight god level opponents and he's also the famous oppai dragon hes strong/famous and rich since he's getting a cut from the oppai dragon franchise
hes a desirable piece of man meat isn't he i can only imagine the chaos that'l ensue once he become's a high class devil it'l be a treat!

Vali doesn't have any Evil Pieces. They all work together as a team, but they're not his servants.

jasper222
2014-02-20, 18:58
That's probably because they're pretty big targets, and some enemies assume they can survive Ise's wrath. Gremory group is the #1 young devil's team right now I believe.

Are you talking about in Rating Games or the Khaos Brigade? You threw me off with "capturing" and "Ise's too much of an idiot to be consistent and Kiba's too loyal".

Next volume is Irina's, Xenovia's volume is volume 19.

Any evil team really, not including the Rating Games. I don't think the villains value power based on the games. I mean, Sona vs Rias match was full of limiters for the Gremory group.

I was talking about if power was valued over intelligence, then they should have gone after Issei and Kiba, the #1 and 2 of the Gremories.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 19:00
Vali doesn't have any Evil Pieces. They all work together as a team, but they're not his servants.

i remember it being stated somewhere that kuroka was worth 2 bishop pieces

i might be mistaken i can't remember that part since i don't really care about vali :/
we'll that just means they can just say goodbye to vali whenever they want to huh

we'll thats great i guess no needless hassle needed with vali

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 19:06
i remember it being stated somewhere that kuroka was worth 2 bishop pieces

i might be mistaken i can't remember that part since i don't really care about vali :/
we'll that just means they can just say goodbye to vali whenever they want to huh

we'll thats great i guess no needless hassle needed with vali

In fact, Kuroka has 2 bishop pieces, BUT from her old master, the same master that she killed long time ago, after she killed him, she escape, leaving koneko alone, that was the moment when koneko begin to hate her sister.

But the reason of why kuroka kill her old master was because he wanted to have babies with koneko.

Gary29
2014-02-20, 19:06
Any evil team really, not including the Rating Games. I don't think the villains value power based on the games. I mean, Sona vs Rias match was full of limiters for the Gremory group.

I was talking about if power was valued over intelligence, then they should have gone after Issei and Kiba, the #1 and 2 of the Gremories.

Oh okay, from your first post I thought you were referring to how high Gremory is rated in the Rating Games compared to Sona and her peerage, due to their overwhelming powers.

Well they probably realize they can't beat Ise, as for Kiba he doesn't have a power that is worth the effort to control. Another thing is unless the intelligent person is willing to join them, they can't control their ability like you can with power.

i remember it being stated somewhere that kuroka was worth 2 bishop pieces

i might be mistaken i can't remember that part since i don't really care about vali :/
we'll that just means they can just say goodbye to vali whenever they want to huh

we'll thats great i guess no needless hassle needed with vali

Yeah, she's worth 2 Bishop pieces. She killed her former master and became a Stray Devil before she joined Vali.

Edit:

But the reason of why kuroka kill her old master was because he wanted to have babies with koneko.

....Isn't it because he wanted to force Koneko above her limits and use her for her power?

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 19:09
Talking about Bishops, who do you think will be issei Bishops:
Asia and Ravel = 2 Bishops.
Or maybe Kuroka: = 2 Bishops.

After all Issei dislike the idea of take Asia and Xenovia from Rias.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 19:10
....Isn't it because he wanted to force Koneko above her limits and use her for her power?

That too, force Koneko above her limits, after discover her potential he wanted to have babies.

Gary29
2014-02-20, 19:14
That too, force Koneko above her limits, after discover her potential he wanted to have babies.

Where exactly does it say that? I don't remember anything like that at all.

Also, Ise doesn't have any problem with trading Asia and Xenovia from Rias. It's just a matter of who she's going to replace them with that he was worried about.

On a different topic, how do you think Rossweisse's relationship with Ise is going to change now that she's finally fallen in love with him? How is she going to act now?

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 19:15
Oh okay, from your first post I thought you were referring to how high Gremory is rated in the Rating Games compared to Sona and her peerage, due to their overwhelming powers.

Well they probably realize they can't beat Ise, as for Kiba he doesn't have a power that is worth the effort to control. Another thing is unless the intelligent person is willing to join them, they can't control their ability like you can with power.



Yeah, she's worth 2 Bishop pieces. She killed her former master and became a Stray Devil before she joined Vali.

Edit:



....Isn't it because he wanted to force Koneko above her limits and use her for her power? agreed with you @WILD_LION please reread that volume again

Will vali give in fanrir antics and converted to become fanrir followers I wonder what will albion reaction if that happen there might be white and gold dragon war :heehee:

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 19:17
it's quite confusing since xenovia and asia have both said they'd follow issei
but it might aswell be kuroka+ravel since for issei kuroka being worth 2 pieces might change to just 1 in this case he doesn't take asia from rias and everyone's happy

since it's true that issei doesn't want to take pieces from rias and even when he become's a high class devil he'll stay as rias's ultimate pawn

so the author might do it this way so that issei could call upon his pieces when he fights together with rias's team so they get more support and increase the cast even more this might be the more interesting way

jasper222
2014-02-20, 19:19
On a different topic, how do you think Rossweisse's relationship with Ise is going to change now that she's finally fallen in love with him? How is she going to act now?

I hope she eats her own words like that sensei from KissxSis. :heh:

Also, would like more classroom antics but with her included now. Like she calls Issei to answer a problem, then Issei can't, and Ross lets him off very well compared to other students.

There's no way Motohama and Matsuda wouldn't notice the newest harem member, they knew about Ravel after all.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 19:24
On a different topic, how do you think Rossweisse's relationship with Ise is going to change now that she's finally fallen in love with him? How is she going to act now?

I think that Rossweisse will begin to show her feelings to issei from now on, for me she is pure heart like Asia but very intelligent, but with a manic for the 100 yen stores.

I think that from now on she will be so jelous of Rias and Akeno, and maybe she also begin to suck issei power Dragon to improve, Well, Maybe do it.....

Gary29
2014-02-20, 19:24
it's quite confusing since xenovia and asia have both said they'd follow issei
but it might aswell be kuroka+ravel since for issei kuroka being worth 2 pieces might change to just 1 in this case he doesn't take asia from rias and everyone's happy

since it's true that issei doesn't want to take pieces from rias and even when he become's a high class devil he'll stay as rias's ultimate pawn

so the author might do it this way so that issei could call upon his pieces when he fights together with rias's team so they get more support and increase the cast even more this might be the more interesting way

That's a pretty interesting way to do it. Ise would be with his peerage and Rias' team all the time and they fight together everywhere except for Rating Games. Wait, wasn't that what would happen anyway?

That doesn't solve Xenovia really wanting to join Ise though, even if Asia decided to stay with Rias instead (which she probably wouldn't, due to her attachment to Ise, and I doubt he would want to or be able to tell her no).

I hope she eats her own words like that sensei from KissxSis. :heh:

Also, would like more classroom antics but with her included now. Like she calls Issei to answer a problem, then Issei can't, and Ross lets him off very well compared to other students.

There's no way Motohama and Matsuda wouldn't notice the newest harem member, they knew about Ravel after all.

Just imagine what will happen when they find out Ise is dating the most beautiful teacher at Kuoh Academy... there's gonna be another Great War, except this time in the human world :heh:

I think that Rossweisse will begin to show her feelings to issei from now on, for me she is pure heart like Asia but very intelligent, but with a manic for the 100 yen stores.

I think that from now on she will be so jelous of Rias and Akeno, and maybe she also begin to suck issei power Dragon to improve, Well, Maybe do it.....

Imagine the possibilities from having Rossweisse suck Ise's Dragon power... if she can create new types of magic, and creates something with the influence of a Dragon... that's going to be quite the destructive power.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 19:25
I hope she eats her own words like that sensei from KissxSis. :heh:

Also, would like more classroom antics but with her included now. Like she calls Issei to answer a problem, then Issei can't, and Ross lets him off very well compared to other students.

There's no way Motohama and Matsuda wouldn't notice the newest harem member, they knew about Ravel after all.

Or Ross visits Issei's class during lunch time and brings him a bento.

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 19:26
I hope she eats her own words like that sensei from KissxSis. :heh:

Also, would like more classroom antics but with her included now. Like she calls Issei to answer a problem, then Issei can't, and Ross lets him off very well compared to other students.

There's no way Motohama and Matsuda wouldn't notice the newest harem member, they knew about Ravel after all.

Yeah, you are right. :D

WILD_LION
2014-02-20, 19:27
Or Ross visits Issei's class during lunch time and brings him a bento.

Jajajajaja...that is a good scene. :D
Motohama and Matsuda will kick him.
The school will be the HELL for issei.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 19:29
it's quite confusing since xenovia and asia have both said they'd follow issei
but it might aswell be kuroka+ravel since for issei kuroka being worth 2 pieces might change to just 1 in this case he doesn't take asia from rias and everyone's happy

Kuroka's pieces would never turn into one. She still has the two pieces from his previous master. That's why she was branded as a Stray Devil and what makes her a Devil is the EP within her.
If someone wants to take her into their peerage, she would take the place of two bishops.

jasper222
2014-02-20, 19:30
Jajajajaja...that is a good scene. :D
Motohama and Matsuda will kick him.
The school will be the HELL for issei.

Rias barges in.

"Ro- Sensei! You can't do that! I'm the legal wife!"

Cue pandemonium. :D

Gary29
2014-02-20, 19:32
Or Ross visits Issei's class during lunch time and brings him a bento.

Now THAT I would love to see. Rossweisse acting cute is going to be adorable.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 19:36
Now THAT I would love to see. Rossweisse acting cute is going to be adorable.

i know!! i can't wait to read the girls reactions to seeing Rossweisse fawning all over issei! >_<

Rias is gonna go on a rampage or just gonna go eh i saw it coming my issei is just that wonderfull after all

jasper222
2014-02-20, 19:37
Question though, is Ross a christmas cake? How old is she really? Early 20's appearance-wise? Also, Rias. How old is she really? 100? 200?

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 19:38
Question though, is Ross a christmas cake? How old is she really? Early 20's appearance-wise? Also, Rias. How old is she really? 100? 200?

Ross is around 17-18 and the same for Rias i don't remember their exact ages again but it was around the same age as issei

since i remember rias asking rossweisse if she wanted to be a teacher or student and ross was qualified to be a teacher so that's what she chose even though she's the same age as everyone else

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 19:38
Question though, is Ross a christmas cake? How old is she really? Early 20's appearance-wise? Also, Rias. How old is she really? 100? 200?
What's important is their setting age. Rias is 18-19, Ross is 19-20. (not sure with Ross).

Since we're taling about age, Rias' birthday is on April 9th. Since the current timeline in DxD is November-December, we may see her birthday celebration in the future Volumes. :D

Gary29
2014-02-20, 19:40
Question though, is Ross a christmas cake? How old is she really? Early 20's appearance-wise? Also, Rias. How old is she really? 100? 200?

Ishibumi said she's about 18 years old. Rias is around the same age (late teens, so I would say 18 as well since she's a year older than Ise), not 100s of years old and changes her appearance like her mother does.

It'd be pretty cool if we get to witness Rias' birthday celebration in one of the future volumes. Though they might save that for a short story volume unless it ties to the plot somehow. Plus if it's in a short story volume, something can go hilariously wrong and it'll make it even more fun :heh:

jasper222
2014-02-20, 19:50
Ross is around 17-18 and the same for Rias i don't remember their exact ages again but it was around the same age as issei

since i remember rias asking rossweisse if she wanted to be a teacher or student and ross was qualified to be a teacher so that's what she chose even though she's the same age as everyone else

If that's the case then at the end of the series I hope Ross grows up to be like Grayfia.

Would also be shocking if Ross suddenly resigned from being a teacher in Kuou, applies part-time in Sona's school, and becomes a uni student and a classmate of Rugal so she has a non-taboo reason to visit Issei at school.

So many possibilities. Doesn't help that Ross is my 2nd favorite after Irina. You guys can have the mainstream girls. :D

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 20:00
If that's the case then at the end of the series I hope Ross grows up to be like Grayfia.

Would also be shocking if Ross suddenly resigned from being a teacher in Kuou, applies part-time in Sona's school, and becomes a uni student and a classmate of Rugal so she has a non-taboo reason to visit Issei at school.

So many possibilities. Doesn't help that Ross is my 2nd favorite after Irina. You guys can have the mainstream girls. :D

that would be interesting and yeah there's just too many possibilities

but the possibility of Rossweisse accepting the teachers position at sona's school is pretty high
she probably won't be becoming a student since she already has all qualifications she needs
even after she's fallen in love with issei there's still tons of other options to get closer to him

and about her turning into a grayfia i'd rather her stay rossweisse since her personality is cuter if it's about looks im okayish with that
since we've all seen grayfia isn't exactly a cutiepie (personality wise) and would probably disrupt the gentle balance between all the girls as being too overbearing and strict
grayfia was adorable at the onsen though but she was drunk at the time so that doesn't really count

peinmaximus@
2014-02-20, 20:16
n0m@n,How powerful is the BB of Saji?Is Saji's BB most powerful than the BB of Ise?
What happen in the fights Ise and Sairaorg vs Grendel,Ise vs Ladon and Ise vs Euclid?
The woman called Shien is the holy cross possesor?
And,for last,Lilith appears in this vol?

G147
2014-02-20, 20:18
n0m@n,How powerful is the BB of Saji?Is Saji's BB most powerful than the BB of Ise?
What happen in the fights Ise and Sairaorg vs Grendel,Ise vs Ladon and Ise vs Euclid?
The woman called Shien is the holy cross possesor?
And,for last,Lilith appears in this vol?

Can you just wait patiently. n0m@n's hard-copy hasn't even reached his hands yet. So all your questions are unanswerable right now.

cyberdemon
2014-02-20, 20:23
Talking about Bishops, who do you think will be issei Bishops:
Asia and Ravel = 2 Bishops.
Or maybe Kuroka: = 2 Bishops.

After all Issei dislike the idea of take Asia and Xenovia from Rias.

There is no doubt that his bishops are going to be Asia and Ravel. That fact has been shoved down our throats.

That is also the beauty of Valerie right now. Even if Issei takes Asia, Rias could just make Valerie into one of her servants to replace them.

It's also doubtful that Kuroka would ever want to be a servant to anyone again. She sticks around Vali because it interests her. That's all.

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 20:26
I have so many fanfic ideas in my head I'll just post some tidbits to let off some steam.

Rossweisse teaching Isseis class....

Ross: Hyoudou kun can you answer this problem?

Issei: ...... Sorry sensei. I can't.

Ross: Mou... You're always like that (*muttering Even though you looked so cool when you said you'd protect me...)

Issei: Eh? Did you just say something sensei?

Ross: N-nothing! A-a-anyway it'll be a problem if you can't solve something like this. S-s-so what I'm saying is... Y-you know... Since it's my job as sensei... I... I.. I'll make some time to t-t-tutor you after school so you b-b-better be prepared! (blushing furiously) A-a-anyway class dismissed! I'll see you after school Issei ku... Hyoudou kun!!!

*Rosswiesse runs off covering her cute, blushing face

Issei: Eh... (stupid blank look)

Matsuda and Motohama: Issei you f*cking bastard!!!

Asia: Issei san... (teary eyed)

Xenovia: Another strong rival has appeared...

Irina: I'll do my best too!!!

Kiryuu: Hmhmhm... Hyoudo kun never fails to disappoint.

Entire class: *death stares Issei

Oh, and as for pein kun, he's been doing that ever since he joined us when we were just starting the (now archived) forum so you kinda just have to get used to him guys.It stops being annoying after a while.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 20:27
There is no doubt that his bishops are going to be Asia and Ravel. That fact has been shoved down our throats.

That is also the beauty of Valerie right now. Even if Issei takes Asia, Rias could just make Valerie into one of her servants to replace them.

But Valerie isn't that much of an asset. Yes, she is the possessor of Sephiroth Graal but she is already broken down due to the excessive use of the SG and I don't think it would be healthy for her to use that even further.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 20:30
That is the beauty of Valerie right now. Even if Issei takes Asia or Xenovia, Rias could just make Valerie into one of her servants to replace them.

i don't think valerie is ever gonna become a piece the holy grails are just too powerfull and need to be sealed also gasper probably wouldn't stand for it he probably wants valerie to be able to have a normal life without being involved in fights

it would also break the whole novel i mean someone dies just bring them back with valerie? yeah not happening im pretty sure they'l be sealed someway wich would make valerie useless

and also like jopjopjop just said if she uses them anymore she'll probably break even further nobody wants to see that happen

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 20:33
i don't think valerie is ever gonna become a piece the holy grails are just too powerfull and need to be sealed also gasper probably wouldn't stand for it he probably wants valerie to be able to have a normal life without being involved in fights

it would also break the whole novel i mean someone dies just bring them back with valerie? yeah not happening im pretty sure they'l be sealed someway wich would make valerie useless

Or Ishibumi sensei could just nerf her abilities a bit. To what extent I'm not sure but I think it's still pretty early to write her off just yet.

cyberdemon
2014-02-20, 20:33
But Valerie isn't that much of an asset. Yes, she is the possessor of Sephiroth Graal but she is already broken down due to the excessive use of the SG and I don't think it would be healthy for her to use that even further.

The pieces can bring someone back from the dead as well. They would likely be able to help restore Valerie health quite a bit. Okita was dying from an incurable disease from his time and he's completely healthy after being resurrected. I have little doubt making her a servant will help improve Valerie's health and even if she doesn't use the grail there are other ways of fighting.

Leaving Valeries free though will creat complications because groups will be fighting over her powers. She'll be protected as a servant of the Gremory household though.

So Rias could make Valerie her servant. One of Issei's pieces could be a mutation piece which they could use. Azazel could place seals on the holy grail to prevent her from using it and damaging her mind even further.

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 20:37
Can you just wait patiently. n0m@n's hard-copy hasn't even reached his hands yet. So all your questions are unanswerable right now.

teehee true but you know he will keep asking the same question over and over again for me i will wait a little longer until n0m gave some spoilers abit :P

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 20:40
The pieces can bring someone back from the dead as well. They would likely be able to help restore Valerie health quite a bit. Okita was dying from an incurable disease from his time and he's completely healthy after being resurrected. I have little doubt making her a servant will help improve Valerie's health and even if she doesn't use the grail there are other ways of fighting.

Leaving Valeries free though will creat complications because groups will be fighting over her powers. She'll be protected as a servant of the Gremory household though.

valerie will be protected by the gremory family regardless if she joins or not you think anyone is dumb enough to make an enemy out of them at this point?

also i doubt making her a devil is gonna fix her mental health issues from using the holy grails
physical health issues sure but mental? dont think so

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 20:42
valerie will be protected by the gremory family regardless if she joins or not you think anyone is dumb enough to make an enemy out of them at this point?

also i doubt making her a devil is gonna fix her mental health issues from using the holy grails
physical health issues sure but mental? dont think so

unless gasper become a high class devil .... i think gasper will reincarnate her i think :kisskiss:

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 20:45
teehee true but you know he will keep asking the same question over and over again for me i will wait a little longer until n0m gave some spoilers abit :P

He's been doing that since forever. Remember the non stop questions during the volume 10 discussion on the archived thread? No offense btw pein. Just tone it down a bit.

Anyway am I the only one kinda expecting Elmenhilde getting in on the action instead of Valerie:heh: Since she did get that cute colored illustration w/ Bennia and Rugal when she fell flat on her butt:D

^That could serve as a good driving force for Gasper actually. From cross dressing boy to manliest cross dressing man surpassing Mil-tan. All for the sake of one vampire girl. Not bad. Not bad at all.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 20:47
unless gasper become a high class devil .... i think gasper will reincarnate her i think :kisskiss:


it's obvious ishibumi wants to hook up valerie and gasper no clue how hes gonna do it though

@swordstriker21 elmenhilde is a proud vampire who looked down upon the gremory group and every time she spoke i wanted to punch her she's a horrible character not cute nor likeable she hated the idea of even working together with them she looked at them as if they we're vermin not fit to be in the same room as herself
i doubt ishibumi is bringing her back i mean kunou was a waay better character then her and he has no intention of bringing her back so i really doubt it

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 20:50
it's obvious ishibumi wants to hook up valerie and gasper no clue how hes gonna do it though

Cross dress Valerie as a hot, blonde bishounen?:heh:

jasper222
2014-02-20, 20:59
valerie will be protected by the gremory family regardless if she joins or not you think anyone is dumb enough to make an enemy out of them at this point?

I've always wondered what would happen once Qlippoth was defeated. Will Vali go back and become a terrorist again? Will someone in Heaven be a traitor to Michael therefore prompting a Heaven arc?

Because it seems Qlippoth is the strongest organization and I hate the name, yet the members are legitimate demonic powerhouses. And unless Great Red and Trihexa form a group then I doubt the remaining villains will be organizations. More like monster of the arc.

I also want to see the Gremory team explore different dimensions.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 21:00
Cross dress Valerie as a hot, blonde bishounen?:heh:

i don't think casper is gonna like that one xD but it was hilarious so a high five from me!

no they'l probably get together in a few years or something we'll find out once they get that holy grail back so she can wake up

@jasper222 once qlippoth is defeated vali will go back to his list of strong opponents he wants to fight
a heaven arc could happen although once you have evil thoughts you immediatly become a fallen angel if im correct? so doubt betrayal would be the trigger
it's been revealed that emperor belial is a traitor (the number one in the rating game) so the next few volumes will probably revolve around him i think

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:06
i don't think casper is gonna like that one xD but it was hilarious so a high five from me!

no they'l probably get together in a few years or something we'll find out once they get that holy grail back so she can wake up

You gotta admit it'll be hilarious though:D

@jasper222 That could be an interesting development. Maybe then we'll finally get a trip to heaven arc. And Qlipoth may sound weird but since it means something like a representation of evil/impure things or something opposite holiness it's more than fitting.

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 21:08
gasper peerage compost of crossdressing vampires :P

jasper222
2014-02-20, 21:12
@jasper222 once qlippoth is defeated vali will go back to his list of strong opponents he wants to fight
a heaven arc could happen although once you have evil thoughts you immediatly become a fallen angel if im correct? so doubt betrayal would be the trigger
it's been revealed that emperor belial is a traitor so the next few volumes will probably revolve around him i think

Maybe Belial stages a coup? Where would he get the extra power to oppose the Maou though? This is what I'm worried about, the power inflation of the fights are too fast. Remember all this is happening and the school year isn't done yet. I hope Ishibumi doesn't pull something out of his arse.

About the Heaven arc, maybe it's the system that goes haywire? It's like the upcoming Avengers movie, where the main villain is a computer system, and iirc Heaven right now is running on fumes with a system running the show with Michael doing emergency maintenance.

Sorry for spoiling, I did my best and I don't know any other fictional world with a villain like that.

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:17
gasper peerage compost of crossdressing vampires :P

Just wait till he contracts Mil-tan and friends. Strongest rating game team ever right there :p

Gary29
2014-02-20, 21:20
Maybe Belial stages a coup? Where would he get the extra power to oppose the Maou though? This is what I'm worried about, the power inflation of the fights are too fast. Remember all this is happening and the school year isn't done yet. I hope Ishibumi doesn't pull something out of his arse.

About the Heaven arc, maybe it's the system that goes haywire? It's like the upcoming Avengers movie, where the main villain is a computer system, and iirc Heaven right now is running on fumes with a system running the show with Michael doing emergency maintenance.

Sorry for spoiling, I did my best and I don't know any other fictional world with a villain like that.

Hopefully Ishibumi has plans for arcs after this one aside from Destruction God Shiva, as DxD is way too good to end anytime soon. That's what I'm worried about.

Dedicating an entire arc to Heaven would be nice, that could also be done for Greek and Norse mythology, as well as going deeper into Japanese Shinto and other mythologies. That would keep DxD running for quite a long time. But I have a feeling that creating an entire arc for one mythology is no easy task... that, and eventually the power levels will be impossible to keep up with (and we don't want that).

Just wait till he contracts Mil-tan and friends. Strongest rating game team ever right there :p

Serafall would have something to say about Gasper taking her Mil-tan :heh:

Tbolt
2014-02-20, 21:20
Now that we are talking about Vali, what do you think will happen with Valli or CaoCao in the future?

I mean, both of them can betray DxD Team, even Vali said it, that for the moment he will be part of the team to get his objective(Kill Rizevim Livan Lucifer).

And CaoCao desire to kill Issei.

Do you think that in the future Kuroka and Le Fay abandon Vali team, to keep with issei?

Or maybe both of them abandon issei, to go with Vali?

What do you think?

After being beaten by Ise because he was human Cao Cao has a change of heart he no longer wants to kill Ise, but now is the newest member of the Ise male harem.

Not only did Arthur ask Ise to do the contract with Le Fay if you read close he also gave his sister to Ise. Vali says if he needs them he will call for them but then tells them to to stay at Ise's house, so Arthur has taken his sister out of Vali's team and by leaving Kuroka there he has pretty much taken her out of the team himself.

And if you notice when a girl gets attached to Ise she will never leave.

And about Rose falling in love with Ise there wont be any problems because she is not a new girl in the house she knows the score. She knows she will not take over the #1 spot and she knows all the girls are in love with Ise, and since Rias and Ise are a couple now a lot of the drama has calmed down so knowing that she will find her spot within the group.

And as for how she will act at school she will be her same old self, she takes being a teacher to seriously to fawn over Ise in front of other students.

I think someone kind of hit on this but Ise could take on the whole team so if Rias decides to concentrate on running the Gremory house and taking care of the kids the team would still be together.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 21:26
Cross dress Valerie as a hot, blonde bishounen?:heh:
That was what I was imagining Valerie would look like before Volume 16. Since Tepes Faction is a male-dominated one and she is involved in Gasper's crossdressing habit.. maybe she will be a crossdresser too. But she wasn't :(

I've always wondered what would happen once Qlippoth was defeated. Will Vali go back and become a terrorist again? Will someone in Heaven be a traitor to Michael therefore prompting a Heaven arc?

Because it seems Qlippoth is the strongest organization and I hate the name, yet the members are legitimate demonic powerhouses. And unless Great Red and Trihexa form a group then I doubt the remaining villains will be organizations. More like monster of the arc.

I also want to see the Gremory team explore different dimensions.
After Qlippoth, I think it would be Shiva's Arc.
Azazel and Son Wukong kinda hinted it in the meeting for the formation of DxD

Azazel said that a mythology is planning to mobilize their troops to defeat Qlippoth. (I'm guessing that's Shiva's)
Son Wukong said that DxD isn't just for defeating Qlippoth but for defeating other powers that may rise and disturb the peace in the future.

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:27
And if you notice when a girl gets attached to Ise she will never leave.

Hyoudou Issei super glue: Bonds not just women but men too:heh:


And as for how she will act at school she will be her same old self, she takes being a teacher to seriously to fawn over Ise in front of other students.


I object to that:D It'll be cliche but would still be a treat to read (for me) if she fawns over him in class and the hate/jealousy meters spikes up again:D

jasper222
2014-02-20, 21:29
Hopefully Ishibumi has plans for arcs after this one aside from Destruction God Shiva, as DxD is way too good to end anytime soon. That's what I'm worried about.

Dedicating an entire arc to Heaven would be nice, that could also be done for Greek and Norse mythology, as well as going deeper into Japanese Shinto and other mythologies. That would keep DxD running for quite a long time. But I have a feeling that creating an entire arc for one mythology is no easy task... that, and eventually the power levels will be impossible to keep up with (and we don't want that).

Oh my, an arc where curry is the main dish. Gremory to India? :heh:

About all the minor mythologies, I don't think Ishibumi should make an arc about them. Well if he does, then at least tie it in to a major faction. I recall something about each faction having a god on their side (or at least an ultimate-class being). If those beings are who Belial will recruit for his treachery then I'm all for it.

I think Heaven is next up on the list (after Shiva at least) since Xenovia and Irina are heavily involved with them (at least Irina is). Maybe God from the Bible is still alive, just trapped somewhere, so next arc is retrieval arc? I don't know. All I'm hoping is for Ishibumi to mix things up because I didn't care much about vampire politics at all, only Valerie and Gasper's budding relationship. Compared to everything before it, it was kind of anti-climactic.

And if Issei becomes ultimate class before he gets promoted to 3rd year, what happens to the story now? I'd really like to see what happens in a Kuou Academy without the onee-sama, and Xenovia-kaichou. ;)

After Qlippoth, I think it would be Shiva's Arc.
Azazel and Son Wukong kinda hinted it in the meeting for the formation of DxD

Azazel said that a mythology is planning to mobilize their troops to defeat Qlippoth. (I'm guessing that's Shiva's)
Son Wukong said that DxD isn't just for defeating Qlippoth but for defeating other powers that may rise and disturb the peace in the future.


Goku should just stick to training Issei to SSJ. And maybe slap a pussy like he did with Bulma's. :D

He's not wrong, then again DxD is also seen as a power, and with a force predominantly made of demons I'm sure the Angels, Fallen Angels, and other mythologies are worried.

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 21:30
Hyoudou Issei super glue: Bonds not just women but men too:heh:




I object to that:D It'll be cliche but would still be a treat to read (for me) if she fawns over him in class and the hate/jealousy meters spikes up again:D

what if after mil-tan become a devil enroll at issei school i wonder what will issei classmate will react :P

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:32
And if Issei becomes ultimate class before he gets promoted to 3rd year, what happens to the story now? I'd really like to see what happens in a Kuou Academy without the onee-sama, and Xenovia-kaichou. ;)

I'm interested in what Xenovia will do when she becomes kaichou too. What policies will she implement? Distribute free condoms to promote safe sex?:heh:

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 21:32
about Rossweisse she's never had a boyfriend and im assuming she's never fallen in love aswell
so she'll probably do whatever she thinks is best to get closer to issei to win his love what that is? i have no clue i remember her mentioning cooking some noordic food? maybe that'l be it? win a mans heart by filling his belly? i have no clue but i really wanna read it :3

jasper222
2014-02-20, 21:36
I'm interested in what Xenovia will do when she becomes kaichou too. What policies will she implement? Distribute free condoms to promote safe sex?:heh:

Add in paid tickets to a live demonstration too, with Issei and his non-onee-sama harem participating. :heh:

about Rossweisse she's never had a boyfriend and im assuming she's never fallen in love aswell
so she'll probably do whatever she thinks is best to get closer to issei to win his love what that is? i have no clue i remember her mentioning cooking some noordic food? maybe that'l be it? win a mans heart by filling his belly? i have no clue but i really wanna read it :3

Issei gulps as Rossweisse puts his right hand on her breast.

MUNYU

"R-Rossweisse-san."

"Please, call me Rose when we're alone."


AIIIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I know Rias is set in stone as the legal wife, but if Ross had just joined the race sooner and Issei was a bit more indecisive...

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:38
what if after mil-tan become a devil enroll at issei school i wonder what will issei classmate will react :P

I'm seeing Mil-tan as more of sensei material. Mahou shoujo lectures people! I'm betting s/he'll get into Sonas school too. Serafall sama is sure to support that:heh:

jasper222
2014-02-20, 21:40
Hyoudou Issei super glue: Bonds not just women but men too:heh:

Glue Dragon? Man the merchandise for the Gremory family just keeps on piling on. :bow:

Wonder what happened to the Sponge Dragon line. Do they have other varieties, like Sponge Princess and Sponge Vampire? :heh:

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 21:42
I'm seeing Mil-tan as more of sensei material. Mahou shoujo lectures people! I'm betting s/he'll get into Sonas school too. Serafall sama is sure to support that:heh:

:heehee: :heehee: :heehee: i wonder what will happen if vali grandpa meets mil-tan i wonder will his reaction same as vali? :heehee: :heehee: :heehee:

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 21:43
Issei gulps as Rossweisse puts his right hand on her breast.

MUNYU

"R-Rossweisse-san."

"Please, call me Rose when we're alone."


AIIIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


then rias and akeno walk in on them rias going issei... akeno showing a scary smile that says im the one that has an affair not you! and then they both jump on him and he gets squeezed to death by 3 pair of breasts? im game for that!

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:44
Glue Dragon? Man the merchandise for the Gremory family just keeps on piling on. :bow:

Wonder what happened to the Sponge Dragon line. Do they have other varieties, like Sponge Princess and Sponge Vampire? :heh:

I hear the sponge princess line is selling like hot cakes. Specially w/the male devil population. And they're not used for cleaning apparently...:heh:

jasper222
2014-02-20, 21:49
I hear the sponge princess line is selling like hot cakes. Specially w/the male devil population. And they're not used for cleaning apparently...:heh:

Damn. I wonder if Issei bought himself one too. :heh:

Come to think of it, I wonder how Issei takes care of himself now his harem is living with him. He's gotta be mega backed-up and I doubt Rias is taking care of him that way. Is he doing it in the school lavatories? :uhoh:

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 21:53
Damn. I wonder if Issei bought himself one too. :heh:

Come to think of it, I wonder how Issei takes care of himself now his harem is living with him. He's gotta be mega backed-up and I doubt Rias is taking care of him that way. Is he doing it in the school lavatories? :uhoh:

kiba helps him with that behind the scenes in the boy's toilets it's the only way to explain kiba's blazing obsession with him ;)

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 21:55
Damn. I wonder if Issei bought himself one too. :heh:

Come to think of it, I wonder how Issei takes care of himself now his harem is living with him. He's gotta be mega backed-up and I doubt Rias is taking care of him that way. Is he doing it in the school lavatories? :uhoh:

Course he did. It's Issei:heh: And as for that other problem... we can only hope he doesn't get too backed up. Maybe he'll go all meta break and beat up Ishibumis editors so he can have some "action":heh:

@sunsengnim Gwaaaaah!!! My eyes! MY EYES!!!

jasper222
2014-02-20, 21:56
kiba helps him with that behind the scenes in the boy's toilets it's the only way to explain kiba's blazing obsession with him ;)

That explains a lot. Kiba is a sword maniac after all. Vice Prez def gotta up her game now if she's about that Gremory life. :cool:

Course he did. It's Issei:heh: And as for that other problem... we can only hope he doesn't get too backed up. Maybe he'll go all meta break and beat up Ishibumis editors so he can have some "action":heh:

On a little serious note though, we get that he doesn't have time for himself. He can't watch his porn without getting embarrassed that even Matsuda and Motohama are pitying him, the last we hear about Issei masturbating is somewhere before volume 10, and his room's crowded with women all the time. I have a feeling Ishibumi is saving the bed scenes for last but for real, the guy is probably blue-balled right now with all the teasing and touching he has to endure.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 21:56
Damn. I wonder if Issei bought himself one too. :heh:

Come to think of it, I wonder how Issei takes care of himself now his harem is living with him. He's gotta be mega backed-up and I doubt Rias is taking care of him that way. Is he doing it in the school lavatories? :uhoh:

When he finally releases that, it will have the same force as the Longinus Smasher or Crimson Blaster would have. Rias and the others would be blown away. :eyespin:

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 21:58
When he finally releases that, it will have the same force as the Longinus Smasher or Crimson Blaster would have. Rias and the others would be blown away. :eyespin:

he'll destroy the damned house whenever he finally erupts who's gonna clean up that mess?

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 22:00
That explains a lot. Kiba is a sword maniac after all. Vice Prez def gotta up her game now if she's about that Gremory life. :cool:

No... Just no.... Kiba and Issei are dueling w/ their sturdy "swords" and then comes Cao Cao w/ his "divine spear".... !#@%#^%%$$....

Damn you! I can't un-imagine it anymore! Aarrrrgh:twitch:

Anyway let's just stop w/the antics before relentlessflame lectures us on thread rules again:) Back on topic I wonder what Shiens abilities will be. She does have the holy cross as a longinus. Any ideas peeps?

jasper222
2014-02-20, 22:03
When he finally releases that, it will have the same force as the Longinus Smasher or Crimson Blaster would have. Rias and the others would be blown away. :eyespin:

2 years glop glop?

Sorry for the SAO reference, couldn't help it. :heh:

he'll destroy the damned house whenever he finally erupts who's gonna clean up that mess?

Ophis.

"I, eat Ise's mess."

No... Just no.... Kiba and Issei are dueling w/ their sturdy "swords" and then comes Cao Cao w/ his "divine spear".... !#@%#^%%$$....

Damn you! I can't un-imagine it anymore! Aarrrrgh:twitch:

Anyway let's just stop w/the antics before relentlessflame lectures us on thread rules again:) Back on topic I wonder what Shiens abilities will be. She does have the holy cross as a longinus. Any ideas peeps?

Don't forget Arthur and his mighty Collbrande.

I think she's the final mark for Irina. She just has to be.

I hope Rias and Akeno catch up to the warriors, like Negi-style casters, mobile cannons instead of sitting ducks. Someone teach them evasive moves ffs.

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 22:03
No... Just no.... Kiba and Issei are dueling w/ their sturdy "swords" and then comes Cao Cao w/ his "divine spear".... !#@%#^%%$$....

Damn you! I can't un-imagine it anymore! Aarrrrgh:twitch:

Damn you too! Why can't you just keep that to yourself and made us read that? :upset:

~Yeah.. let's refresh our minds, bodies and spirits and calmly discuss the future events of DxD.

sunsengnim
2014-02-20, 22:04
No... Just no.... Kiba and Issei are dueling w/ their sturdy "swords" and then comes Cao Cao w/ his "divine spear".... !#@%#^%%$$....

Damn you! I can't un-imagine it anymore! Aarrrrgh:twitch:

excellent! although you kinda went too far thank god you didn't include sairoarg bael that would've turned out real messy

and thanks now I can't get it outta my head either and i started it! CURSE YOU!

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 22:06
Bwahahaha! I must share the pain!!! But seriously guys let's just stop and discuss some things a little more productive shall we? The mods have eyes... The mods have eyes...

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 22:07
Holy Cross - Incinerate Anthem - Chief Mourner’s Crucified Stand of Purple Flame --- Fire?

Swordstriker21
2014-02-20, 22:09
Holy Cross - Incinerate Anthem --- Fire?

Holy fire--- purification? No, that's a bit boring since Koneko has that already. There must be more impact to it... Amaterasu rip-off i.e. fire that doesn't stop until it burns the entire target? No, still too plain....

kusabireika
2014-02-20, 22:10
Holy Cross - Incinerate Anthem - Chief Mourner’s Crucified Stand of Purple Flame --- Fire?

cursed flame?

jopjopjop
2014-02-20, 22:12
cursed flame?

We already have that with Saji/Vritra.