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Daniel E.
2012-05-21, 06:45
New Tales game to be announced in early June:
The game is indeed a mothership title. The catch phrase for the game is "Are you prepared to destroy the world for the girl?" This phrase apparently has some ties to both the story and gameplay systems.
Previous titles were "high fantasy" games with swords and magic. This time, the game will have a more modern theme. The game's world view will be thick with cultural elements.
Full article: http://andriasang.com/con115/next_tales/
http://i.imgur.com/5Tf5x.jpg (http://imgur.com/5Tf5x)
http://i.imgur.com/ayMmZ.jpg (http://imgur.com/ayMmZ)
http://andriasang.com/con12z/next_tales_art/
articuzwolf
2012-05-21, 06:59
I just hope it was localised before 2020 :heh:
Shadow5YA
2012-05-21, 07:01
I just hope it was localised before 2020 :heh:
I was thinking the same thing. I guess that shows how highly we think of Namco.
MeoTwister5
2012-05-21, 08:25
Can we please have a 360 release Bamco kthxbai.
Chaos2Frozen
2012-05-21, 09:45
The catch phrase for the game is "Are you prepared to destroy the world for the girl?"
Ahhh... So it's one of THOSE kind of things... >.>
Von Himmel
2012-05-21, 10:31
Someone also mentioned something about the concept art. Noticed that the towns seem surrounded by desert and connected by railways? He said that it might be because the world is at it's limit (if you've played World Destruction or watch Regios then you'll probably get what I meant.) and that's probably why it's like that.
...and considering that the theme is about sacrificing your girl / saving the world, I don't think it's kinda off >_>;
Klashikari
2012-05-21, 10:49
Can we please have a 360 release Bamco kthxbai.Not really the best idea, in term of audience and especially "cash potential" if you ask me.
MeoTwister5
2012-05-21, 10:58
Well I'd rather have a cheap passable port if I may. It makes sense in terms of audience potential in Japan where PS3 rules, but in the rest of the planet where 360 still remains at the top, probably not so much. So years after Vesperia I'm still waiting for my next main series game.
To me it's still really the way Bamco doesn't market the Tales series as they do others, but meh, I'd say it's their own fault for the most part why the Tales series isn't as big as it could be.
Klashikari
2012-05-21, 11:00
As mentioned by Baba (Tales of producer), their team specifically set their game for the Japanese audience, and it is only afterwards they oblidge to make release for the western market.
And frankly, that's quite understandable, since the sales in Japan just slaughter any count they can ever have in the western market.
SilverSyko
2012-05-21, 12:53
I'm not the biggest enthusiast of the Tales series, but I admit the supposed "modern" theme and those concept arts of this upcoming title really have me intrigued. Tales has been pretty much nothing but medieval fantasy worlds with some scif-fi elements as far as I know, so this step outside normal ground is an interesting thing to see and it really piques my curiosity.
All-in-all, I'd like to see something darker from this series. The games all tend to be rather lighthearted, but considering the target audience though, that's probably unlikely to change. :uhoh:
Can we please have a 360 release Bamco kthxbai.
No, you won't. Your only chances are PS3 and/or WiiU. The 360 is a complete bomb in Japan, there's zero chance it gets another Tales. And last I checked, the Wii had more market penetration than the 360, so I wouldn't really say it's on top everywhere outside of Japan.
All-in-all, I'd like to see something darker from this series. The games all tend to be rather lighthearted, but considering the target audience though, that's probably unlikely to change. :uhoh:
They actually aren't that light-hearted. Cities are constantly destroyed, usually along with the people in them. People/characters die protecting your group all the time. You're betrayed in every damn game since at least Abyss. Just because the characters are able to crack some jokes in skits and such doesn't mean there aren't dark elements to it.
Shadow5YA
2012-05-21, 16:43
Well I'd rather have a cheap passable port if I may. It makes sense in terms of audience potential in Japan where PS3 rules, but in the rest of the planet where 360 still remains at the top, probably not so much. So years after Vesperia I'm still waiting for my next main series game.
To me it's still really the way Bamco doesn't market the Tales series as they do others, but meh, I'd say it's their own fault for the most part why the Tales series isn't as big as it could be.
The 360 isn't that great. The gap between the 360 and PS3 in the States is far smaller than the gap between the PS3 and 360 in Japan.
Daniel E.
2012-05-21, 17:35
First promo video:
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Not a lot to see, though. :heh:
The game will be officially announced on June 2, but there will be another commercial a bit sooner than that.
Shinji103
2012-05-21, 21:13
As a big romance buff, I'm happy to note how that line for the new game sounds like a nice romance game line. :D C'mon Bamco, you gave us Emil and Marta in ToS 2, give us more of that. :D
There's been romance of some degree in most of the Tales games that I've played. They aren't thrown in your face (with the exception of Graces and maybe Xillia), but they're still there. Though having not played Ratatusk, not sure if maybe they're on screen making out and such and that's what you mean. :p
Chaos2Frozen
2012-05-21, 21:55
As a big romance buff, I'm happy to note how that line for the new game sounds like a nice romance game line. :D C'mon Bamco, you gave us Emil and Marta in ToS 2, give us more of that. :D
Well with a catch phrase as dark as that, I was kinda hoping the protagonist would be more along the lines of Ratatosk (Not Emil) and Yuri than the standard Tales Hero.
Not that there's anything wrong with the normal heroes, it's just that the situation probably requires someone with a different 'mindset'.
...Plus It's abit overkill if Yuri wins Number One Character 4 times in a row :heh: Onosaka-san would really cry :heh:
Though having not played Ratatusk, not sure if maybe they're on screen making out and such and that's what you mean. :p
No visual on-screen make out, but apparently it does feature the first confirmed in-game kiss ;)
SilverSyko
2012-05-21, 22:54
If they're gonna pitch such a decision as the tagline for the game, I really hope the main character doesn't pull a "I'll save the world AND you" option out of his ass again like other protagonists have. Have him actually choose one or the other. :heh:
I'd prefer they keep the romance downplayed as well. Too much focus on that will eventually just start taking away from whatever other characterization the characters may have to offer.
BTW on a random note, am I the only one who sees something like Manhattan Island in New York surrounded by a dried up Hudson River in one of those concept arts?
Chaos2Frozen
2012-05-21, 23:22
If they're gonna pitch such a decision as the tagline for the game, I really hope the main character doesn't pull a "I'll save the world AND you" option out of his ass again like other protagonists have. Have him actually choose one or the other. :heh:
That might be a bit too literally, it could mean that the protagonist would fight against the world to protect the girl.
Von Himmel
2012-05-22, 11:40
Anyone knows what's the translation for this picture? http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/ExeForce87/next-tales-tease03.jpg
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/ExeForce87/next-tales-tease03.jpg
No, you won't. Your only chances are PS3 and/or WiiU. The 360 is a complete bomb in Japan, there's zero chance it gets another Tales. And last I checked, the Wii had more market penetration than the 360, so I wouldn't really say it's on top everywhere outside of Japan.
well it can be multiplatfrom.
anyway lack of platfrom announcement make it sound fishy. it can be something out of field like online
well that how i fell
Nivek von Beldo
2012-05-26, 14:08
well it can be multiplatfrom.
anyway lack of platfrom announcement make it sound fishy. it can be something out of field like online
well that how i fell
I think Nintendo didn't want to know about Tales of..., after the Tales of Grace fiasco(the game was rushed to the Xmas and them to compete against FFXIII not a good choice indeed, and by that, the western leadership didn't want to bring it outside after found about the 'Improved Version for PS3')
anyway today quote is
"I wonder if humans are strong because they have something to protect?"
Chaos2Frozen
2012-05-26, 18:28
Ah so it's constantly changing? Because the one I got from http://abyssalchronicles.com/ is
"What we need is a 'choice.' Either her life, or the whole world - It's entirely my own 'choice' to risk!"
Also, they're developing a new strategy game for the Android, Tales of the World: Tactics Union (http://tow-tu.tales-ch.jp/)
yes
try to find list but this what i can find for now (not in any order)
"You'll regret not stopping it here until your death!"
"You remove them in secret, as though they were never there -- that's your specialty, eh?"
"If you continue to fight alone, one day you'll be engulfed in loneliness."
"We've observed the shape of the container. Next is to see if its depth cannot be measured."
try to find list but this what i can find for now (not in any order)
From Tales Of Forums:
19 Days (beginning) - 12 Days: "Are you determined to destroy the world for the sake of one girl?"
11 Days: "Papa told me that a real promise is one you make by looking the other in the eye."
10 Days: "I've seen the form of a vessel, next to measure its depth."
9 Days: "Stealthily erasing it and making it as if it were never there ... That's your speciality, right?"
8 Days: "You'll regret that you didn't stop here until the day you die!"
7 Days: "If you continue to fight alone, one day you'll be engulfed in loneliness."
6 Days - present: "I wonder if humans are strong because they have something to protect?"
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-02, 04:36
Well, Holy Shit- It's Tales of Xillia 2 (http://abyssalchronicles.com/?fn_mode=comments&fn_id=903).
http://i.imgur.com/mx0TK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qKYgj.jpg
http://i.minus.com/iW5HrAxPUz4F3.gif
lol @ Namco nailing action combat better than Ninja Theory have for DMC.
Also off gaf.
Tales of Xillia 2
- PS3, release date is sometime in Winter, actual date will be announced on June 27.
- The main character is Rudger Will Krusnik (Takashi Kondo), the heroine is El Mel Mata (Mariya Ise).
- The game is set a year after ToX, in Elenpios.
- The character designs this time are by Daigo Okamura, a Bandai Namco illustrator and art director on the Tales series.
- Realistic proportions, third person camera, story decisions with branching cutscenes, etc.
- The battle system uses a weapon shift system where Rudgar can change in realtime between twin blades, a hammer, and twin pistols. Very fast paced and action packed.
- Animation by Ufotable once again, with Ayumi Hamasaki contributing to the theme song once more.
No, you won't. Your only chances are PS3 and/or WiiU. The 360 is a complete bomb in Japan, there's zero chance it gets another Tales. And last I checked, the Wii had more market penetration than the 360, so I wouldn't really say it's on top everywhere outside of Japan.
The problem with the Wii's market penetration is that most of them are gathering dusts since a lot of buys weren't conventional gamers thanks to Wii Sports (And Nintendo is going to be in trouble if lighting doesn't strike twice). Only Nintendo games sold well on that system, an RPG like Xillia is much better suited to the Ps3... as shown by Graces F selling more in its first week than it did in its entire lifetime on the Wii.
360 has slaughtered the Wii in America the biggest market since Kinect period, not an argument whatsoever. Wii is behind the 3DS, Ps3, PSP and Vita in Japan..... There's a reason why the Wii U is coming out this year...
This Tales game was always going to be on the PS3, Xillia was outstanding for them in Japan.
I had sneaking suspicion on the last day when the X on the countdown site got shaded...who would've thunk?
This also practically spoils the "twist" of Xillia. I'm completely hyped, because Xillia was tons of fun. Man, I hope the whole team from the first game comes back like Symphonia 2....
Von Himmel
2012-06-02, 06:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hltlt036iw
Hey have anyone heard about the ne--- oh wait I guess everyone did :uhoh:
Tales of Xillia 2
- PS3, release date is sometime in Winter, actual date will be announced on June 27.
- The main character is Rudger Will Krusnik (Takashi Kondo), the heroine is El Mel Mata (Mariya Ise).
- The game is set a year after ToX, in Elenpios.
- The character designs this time are by Daigo Okamura, a Bandai Namco illustrator and art director on the Tales series.
- Realistic proportions, third person camera, story decisions with branching cutscenes, etc.
- The battle system uses a weapon shift system where Rudgar can change in realtime between twin blades, a hammer, and twin pistols. Very fast paced and action packed.
- Animation by Ufotable once again, with Ayumi Hamasaki contributing to the theme song once more.
I'm quite hyped about this eventhough I never played the first one. I hope they'll fix the battle system and add more mystic artes :(
Daniel E.
2012-06-02, 06:14
Well color me surprised, eventhough the folks at gamefaqs speculated this days ago, I sure as hell didn't believe them. :meh:
Here's another video:
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interesting that it Xillia 2. not really the first Tales sequel but seem it namco answer to XIII-2
also seem weapon change system seem very interesting
Klashikari
2012-06-02, 06:54
I'm a bit concerned that Xillia 2 might be even more rushed than X1, but at least that means they won't have the time for a Xillia director's cut, which might lead to Xillia2 being more complete than its predecessor.
- Realistic proportions, third person camera, story decisions with branching cutscenes, etc.
Notice that in the screens. I don't know it just looks weird to me, and wrong for a tales game. Tales had always this kind of anime feel to it, but this looks like a cheap rendered CGI anime.
Von Himmel
2012-06-02, 07:22
I didn't notice that it'll have story decision with branching cutscenes... :heh: Well I hope it will have big impact to the story rather than only affecting small and unimportant parts of it :(
Here's another video:
I wonder how the weapon system will be implemented here. I mean, would it go with only one-type of equippable weapons for each characters or must we equip 3 types of different weapons for each characters?
I'm a bit concerned that Xillia 2 might be even more rushed than X1, but at least that means they won't have the time for a Xillia director's cut, which might lead to Xillia2 being more complete than its predecessor.
there maybe less technical quirk but expect re used asset
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-02, 07:36
http://i.imgur.com/mx0TK.jpg
So are they aiming for the oldest Protagonist with the youngest Heroine :heh: ?
interesting that it Xillia 2. not really the first Tales sequel but seem it namco answer to XIII-2
Well people often unfairly compared XIII-2 to TOS2... :uhoh:
Well people often unfairly compared XIII-2 to TOS2... :uhoh:
then this is fair comparison then :p
Well people often unfairly compared XIII-2 to TOS2... :uhoh:
They do? This is the first I heard of. :heh:
The male character design, for some reason, also reminds me a LOT of valkyria chronicles. He definitely has the militaristic vibe about him.
They do? This is the first I heard of. :heh:
The male character design, for some reason, also reminds me a LOT of valkyria chronicles. He definitely has the militaristic vibe about him.
Really? he looks to me like a grown up version of Ruca.
Von Himmel
2012-06-02, 08:56
...he looks more like Kurt because of his hair to me. :(
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-02, 09:06
They do? This is the first I heard of. :heh:
I'm surprised you didn't hear about it; the whole 2 new playable character (guy and girl) along with the 'Pokemon' system to fill in for the remaining party slot because the previous team's characters aren't available save from certain missions.
After they announced the new Tales series would be the sequel of Xillia, I'm not really please with this announcement....
Quite disappoint with the first Xillia. Probably because of its battle system and way to get the Grade Points... (That's why I still not able to finish 1st playthrough)
Anyway, this is too early to tell whether Xillia 2 will better than its prequel or not....
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-02, 11:38
Partial 6th Tales Popularity Poll Results:
Character You Would Want As A Younger Brother/Sister
1. Elise Lutus (Tales of Xillia)
2. Sophie (Tales of Graces)
3. Genis Sage (Tales of Symphonia)
4. Mao (Tales of Rebirth)
5. Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia)
6. Jude Mathis (Tales of Xillia)
7. Karol Capel (Tales of Vesperia)
8. Hubert Oswell (Tales of Graces)
9. Leon Magnus (Tales of Destiny) (...eh?!)
10. Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia) (...what?!)
Favorite Mascot Character
1. Repede (Tales of Vesperia)
2. Mieu (Tales of the Abyss)
3. Tipo (Tales of Xillia)
4. Viva-kun
5. Quickie (Tales of Eternia)
6. Corrine (Tales of Symphonia)
7. Tokunaga (Tales of the Abyss)
8. Rappigs (Tales of the Abyss)
9. Oresoren (Tales of Legendia)
10. Tenebrae (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World)
SilverSyko
2012-06-02, 12:20
Aaaaaaand there goes most of my interest. Mainly since the first game hasn't even been localized yet.
Pretty disappointed to be honest. I was hoping to see something original and unique for this series, not a direct sequel.
Daniel E.
2012-06-02, 13:03
Another video showing a bit of exploration, the new option to choose between 2 possible outcomes and a few other things already shown in other videos:
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Well now, this is interesting. Kind of disappointed that it's not a completely new title and because I don't know a goddamn thing about Xillia, but I do like the premise and the design of the main character here. Could be fun.
Aaaaaaand there goes most of my interest. Mainly since the first game hasn't even been localized yet.
The UK Bamco Rep has been teasing something since this morning, but it's literally just a tease at the moment. There's a decent chance that the implication is Tales of Xillia, at least in the UK, will be localized soon. And since the PS3 is region-free...
As for me, there's only two things that would make me not want to get this game at launch. First, if it gets a localization announcement (or Xillia 1 does, with implication that 2 will follow within a year), in which case I'd rather wait and enjoy it more fully. Or two, which may trump the first one regardless, is if it follows what ToS2 and FFXIII2 did, and force you into using certain characters with a monster for the last slot(s). There's nothing to even suggest this second one is a possibility other than not being shown any playable characters besides Ludger/Rudger/Roger/whatever so far, so here's hoping it won't be an issue.
I'd hope it's more than just teasing. Xillia is one of those games I've beeen following since the first rumors and really I want to play. And since it's PS3 it doesn't matter where it gets released either.
Partial 6th Tales Popularity Poll Results:
Character You Would Want As A Younger Brother/Sister
1. Elise Lutus (Tales of Xillia)
2. Sophie (Tales of Graces)
3. Genis Sage (Tales of Symphonia)
4. Mao (Tales of Rebirth)
5. Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia)
6. Jude Mathis (Tales of Xillia)
7. Karol Capel (Tales of Vesperia)
8. Hubert Oswell (Tales of Graces)
9. Leon Magnus (Tales of Destiny) (...eh?!)
10. Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia) (...what?!)
Favorite Mascot Character
1. Repede (Tales of Vesperia)
2. Mieu (Tales of the Abyss)
3. Tipo (Tales of Xillia)
4. Viva-kun
5. Quickie (Tales of Eternia)
6. Corrine (Tales of Symphonia)
7. Tokunaga (Tales of the Abyss)
8. Rappigs (Tales of the Abyss)
9. Oresoren (Tales of Legendia)
10. Tenebrae (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World)
Hmm, I already have two little sisters so I'm pretty much set on that front. Still, I like Rita. But... Yuri as a younger brother sounds like it could be rather interesting.
Repede as mascot is a given.
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-02, 17:32
Hmm, I already have two little sisters so I'm pretty much set on that front. Still, I like Rita. But... Yuri as a younger brother sounds like it could be rather interesting.
One older Sister and younger brother for me; not exactly clamoring for a third either.
Mah, at least the polls aren't going to be a Vesperia land-slide like two years ago :heh: But I didn't think Elise would be that popular that fast.
When the main popularity poll comes out it should be interesting to see; I still predict Vesperia superiority, but strong threats coming from Xillia and maybe even Graces.
Repede as mascot is a given.
Yeah apparently the Rule of Cool outweighs the Rule of Cute here :heh:
Shadow5YA
2012-06-02, 21:00
The new battle system looks interesting, but other than that... eh.
Shinji103
2012-06-02, 22:49
HELLZ YEAH! XILLIA 2!!! :D
I'm not ashamed to admit my first question is "do Jude and Mila come back?" :) Quite possibly. we have another chance to see that pairing get some actual conclusion, or at least maybe actually make their feelings for each other official. (Jude's feelings for Mila were pretty obvious and Mila specifically stated she loved Jude, just not to him directly) After all, Loyd got some nice moments with whichever girl of ToS 1 you chose in a specific scene during ToS 2. :D
orpheus2
2012-06-03, 03:05
HELLZ YEAH! XILLIA 2!!! :D
I'm not ashamed to admit my first question is "do Jude and Mila come back?" :) Quite possibly. we have another chance to see that pairing get some actual conclusion, or at least maybe actually make their feelings for each other official. (Jude's feelings for Mila were pretty obvious and Mila specifically stated she loved Jude, just not to him directly) After all, Loyd got some nice moments with whichever girl of ToS 1 you chose in a specific scene during ToS 2. :D
I agree with you. I want to see some real closure.
I wonder what will this tales deconstruct this time around.
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-03, 06:51
Remaining 6th Tales Popularity Poll Results:
Favorite Overall Character:
1. Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia) [Seriously?! You Three again?!]
2. Leon Magnus (Tales of Destiny) [Seriously?! You Three again?!]
3. Asbel Lhant (Tales of Graces) [Seriously?! You Three again?!]
4. Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
5. Alvin (Tales of Xillia)
6. Milla Maxwell (Tales of Xillia) [New Strongest Female:eek:!]
7. Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia) [I][Isn't it great? Onosaka-san :heh:?]
8. Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
9. Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) [No longer the strongest female character...]
10. Jude Mathis (Tales of Xillia)
11. Emil Castagnier (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World) [Slowly climbing... But where's Marta?!]
12. Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss)
13. Kratos Aurion (Tales of Symphonia)
14. Raven (Tales of Vesperia)
15. Cheria Barnes (Tales of Graces)
16. Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia)
17. Jade Curtiss (Tales of the Abyss)
18. Sophie (Tales of Graces)
19. Spada Belforma (Tales of Innocence)
20. Reid Hershel (Tales of Eternia)
21. Leia Rolando (Tales of Xillia)
22. Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
23. Pascal (Tales of Graces)
24. Cless Alvein (Tales of Phantasia)
25. Elise Lutus (Tales of Xillia)
26. Presea Combatir (Tales of Symphonia)
27. Tear Grants (Tales of the Abyss)
28. Richard (Tales of Graces)
29. Gaius (Tales of Xillia)
30. Estelle (Tales of Vesperia) [Estelle...:sad:]
Ideal/Best Partners:
1. Yuri Lowell and Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia) [Invincible Duo]
2. Jude Mathis and Milla Maxwell (Tales of Xillia) [As expected of Xillia]
3. Asbel Lhant and Cheria Barnes (Tales of Graces) [New most Popular Tales Couple?!]
4. Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia) and Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss) [Oioi...:eyebrow:]
5. Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia) and Jade Curtiss (Tales of the Abyss)
6. Luke fon Fabre and Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss)
7. Emil Castagnier and Marta Lualdi (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World) [Second most Popular Tales Couple?!]
8. Yuri Lowell and Repede (Tales of Vesperia)
9. Leon Magnus and Judas (Tales of Destiny and Destiny 2) [What is this?! I don't even-!!]
10. Lloyd Irving and Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia)
Milla the hottest and strongest female tales protagonist? I think so. I must say though, its very difficult to top Yuri for the number one spot.:heh:
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-03, 07:41
Milla the hottest and strongest female tales protagonist? I think so. I must say though, its very difficult to top Yuri for the number one spot.:heh:
Don't forget there's the Miyuki Sawashiro factor as well :eyespin:
Yeah I didn't think any of the new characters since Vesperia could dethrone Yuri just yet, but I never expected the Number 2 and 3 had such rock-solid grip on their rankings :eyespin:
Don't forget there's the Miyuki Sawashiro factor as well :eyespin:
Yeah I didn't think any of the new characters since Vesperia could dethrone Yuri just yet, but I never expected the Number 2 and 3 had such rock-solid grip on their rankings :eyespin:
Yes, having Miyuki in there is always a factor for any character she does. What surprised me is how low Tear was in the rankings.:twitch:
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-03, 07:50
Yes, having Miyuki in there is always a factor for any character she does. What surprised me is how low Tear was in the rankings.:twitch:
Mah despite the Yukana-factor Abyss was some time ago, and unlike the male characters, female characters don't really stand the test of time.
Another example is Colette, who despite channeling the best of Mizuki Nana, falls very far down the list :heh:
Klashikari
2012-06-03, 07:54
Generally speaking, the sheer domination of fangirls is a huge factor for that. Also, unless a female character is headstrong or quite quirky, they don't exactly remain on top in Tales poll.
Tear, Colette and Estelle are nice and all, but "bland" to be blunt, which is a far cry from Milla who is a full fledged "lead character" (and before you ask, my favorite female characters in ToS and ToV are actually Colette and Estelle, so the bland mention isn't exactly my thoughts but heh).
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-03, 08:01
Generally speaking, the sheer domination of fangirls is a huge factor for that. Also, unless a female character is headstrong or quite quirky, they don't exactly remain on top in Tales poll.
Actually not only the girls, but the more popular guys tend to be the funny-troll characters... To be exactly, the funny-trollish-middle-age-ish guy character :heh:
Which seems to be alot easier to achieve than 'badass' Anti-hero and with more staying power :heh:
Tear, Colette and Estelle are nice and all, but "bland" to be blunt, which is a far cry from Milla who is a full fledged "lead character" (and before you ask, my favorite female characters in ToS and ToV are actually Colette and Estelle, so the bland mention isn't exactly my thoughts but heh).
You mean quite literally, Nice Girls don't get far :p
But then again, there's Cheria climbing up to be the Third Popular Female Character...
Remaining 6th Tales Popularity Poll Results:
Favorite Overall Character:
1. Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia) [Seriously?! You Three again?!]
2. Leon Magnus (Tales of Destiny) [Seriously?! You Three again?!]
3. Asbel Lhant (Tales of Graces) [Seriously?! You Three again?!]
4. Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
5. Alvin (Tales of Xillia)
6. Milla Maxwell (Tales of Xillia) [New Strongest Female:eek:!]
7. Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia) [I][Isn't it great? Onosaka-san :heh:?]
8. Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
9. Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) [No longer the strongest female character...]
10. Jude Mathis (Tales of Xillia)
11. Emil Castagnier (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World) [Slowly climbing... But where's Marta?!]
12. Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss)
13. Kratos Aurion (Tales of Symphonia)
14. Raven (Tales of Vesperia)
15. Cheria Barnes (Tales of Graces)
16. Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia)
17. Jade Curtiss (Tales of the Abyss)
18. Sophie (Tales of Graces)
19. Spada Belforma (Tales of Innocence)
20. Reid Hershel (Tales of Eternia)
21. Leia Rolando (Tales of Xillia)
22. Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
23. Pascal (Tales of Graces)
24. Cless Alvein (Tales of Phantasia)
25. Elise Lutus (Tales of Xillia)
26. Presea Combatir (Tales of Symphonia)
27. Tear Grants (Tales of the Abyss)
28. Richard (Tales of Graces)
29. Gaius (Tales of Xillia)
30. Estelle (Tales of Vesperia) [Estelle...:sad:]
Ideal/Best Partners:
1. Yuri Lowell and Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia) [Invincible Duo]
2. Jude Mathis and Milla Maxwell (Tales of Xillia) [As expected of Xillia]
3. Asbel Lhant and Cheria Barnes (Tales of Graces) [New most Popular Tales Couple?!]
4. Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia) and Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss) [Oioi...:eyebrow:]
5. Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia) and Jade Curtiss (Tales of the Abyss)
6. Luke fon Fabre and Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss)
7. Emil Castagnier and Marta Lualdi (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World) [Second most Popular Tales Couple?!]
8. Yuri Lowell and Repede (Tales of Vesperia)
9. Leon Magnus and Judas (Tales of Destiny and Destiny 2) [What is this?! I don't even-!!]
10. Lloyd Irving and Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia)
some how the list is both surprising and predictable
Von Himmel
2012-06-04, 01:10
But then again, there's Cheria climbing up to be the Third Popular Female Character...
She's not exactly bland... but yeah :heh: I think it's probably because of her fashion sense :p oh and frozen rain!
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-04, 02:57
She's not exactly bland... but yeah :heh: I think it's probably because of her fashion sense :p oh and frozen rain!
*point fingers*
Klashikari was the one said 'bland', I said 'nice' :p
Surprisingly, gameplay seems to be a very big factor in popularity :heh: I'll bet that's why Rita was the Number One girl :p
Surprisingly, gameplay seems to be a very big factor in popularity :heh: I'll bet that's why Rita was the Number One girl :p
I'm sure it helps, but I wouldn't say it's a huge factor. Look at Flynn. He's only playable for maybe a third of PS3 Vesperia, yet he got #16 overall. It seems characterization from skits and story impact has more importance. Just look at Judith. I'd assume she'd be relatively popular, and she's playable for like 80-90% of Vesperia, and she didnt' even place. Same for Patty. While Patty got some great characterization from skits, neither of them had any real importance to the story (beyond Judith's initial introduction, she was basically a tour guide of the beast-spirit things).
Chaos2Frozen
2012-06-04, 10:10
I'm sure it helps, but I wouldn't say it's a huge factor. Look at Flynn. He's only playable for maybe a third of PS3 Vesperia, yet he got #16 overall. It seems characterization from skits and story impact has more importance. Just look at Judith. I'd assume she'd be relatively popular, and she's playable for like 80-90% of Vesperia, and she didnt' even place. Same for Patty. While Patty got some great characterization from skits, neither of them had any real importance to the story (beyond Judith's initial introduction, she was basically a tour guide of the beast-spirit things).
No, I mean gameplay as in how much fun people had with them, or in other words how haxx they are :heh: Both Yuri and Rita have infinite combo :eyespin:
Of course all this is baseless theory so take it as you will :p
I think, Flynn's popularity shot up from the Vesperia Movie...
So does Milla, actually. :p
kuroishinigami
2012-06-04, 10:31
Never thought Jude would rank that high, even the seiyuu of Xillia don't like Jude (they jokingly attributed it to knowing the person behind the character though :heh:). Top three is just meh, I was hoping Milla might break at least the top 3, but no luck this time it seems ><
Nightengale
2012-06-04, 10:41
HELLZ YEAH! XILLIA 2!!! :D
I'm not ashamed to admit my first question is "do Jude and Mila come back?" :) Quite possibly.
Hell yeah.
First thing in my mind when I saw that tagline was hoping it referred to Jude x Milla, as much as that tagline would break his characterisation from Xillia itself. :heh:
Excorsism
2012-06-04, 23:13
Hoping for Jude x Milla to come back too. So Jude is 16 now, lol. Not too much of a difference. Silly Namco, instead of exploring this world in the first one, they do it via making a new game instead. :uhoh:
Some more info came out on the two characters:
Ludgar Will Kresnik: (again, romanization is not yet official) is 20 years old and is a normal young man who's currently living with his older brother. He's good at housework and is an excellent cook.
Elle Mel Martha: has a quote in the magazine that says she needs to go to the "Land of Canaan" to help her father. She's a level-headed and lively little girl who went on a journey to fulfill her wish of going to Canaan. She hates tomatoes.
Lulu is Ludgar's pudgy yet active cat who doesn't shy away from strangers. Lulu might even be the boss of the neighboring cats (what).
In the game's reveal, they showed us that making choices is a major feature of the game. The magazine apparently gives a funny example of one of the choices Ludgar has to make for Elle about her hate for tomatoes:
(Ah! Elle hates tomatoes!)
L1: "I wouldn't say I like or dislike them, but they are tasty."
R1: "Got it. I won't put tomatoes in it, then."
Source (http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/?fn_mode=comments&fn_id=908)
Ludgar Will Kresnik: (again, romanization is not yet official)
It'll probably end up being Rudgar. It seems to be more thematic based on various name meanings, and it seems to be how characters pronounce it in the trailer (then again, can't 100% go by how a character pronounces someone's name).
Lulu might even be the boss of the neighboring cats (what).
I think that's supposed to be "neighborhood cats", so he's like the tough one that the other cats respect. In other words, a Fat!Cat version of Repede.
Shinji103
2012-06-16, 10:43
I'm still waiting for the trailer that teases us with the old casts' return........ :D
Excorsism
2012-06-28, 17:25
Leia and Alvin are back, woopie! That means the whole cast is back.
Leia and Alvin are back, woopie! That means the whole cast is back.
Not necessarily. There are plot reasons that at least two of them shouldn't be playable.
Shinji103
2012-06-29, 09:57
Leia and Alvin are back, woopie! That means the whole cast is back.Source?
Dang minimum character limit.
Excorsism
2012-06-29, 13:16
Not necessarily. There are plot reasons that at least two of them shouldn't be playable.
Source?
Dang minimum character limit.
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Red_Spyro/1c867d59.jpg
Well, all I really care about is Jude/Milla/Leia anyway. Here's hoping they're playable and not fixed at a certain level (I'm looking at you ToS2).
Shinji103
2012-08-01, 21:59
I'm starting to wonder if this game is really going to make it for its intended November release. We've seen very few updates here or on the homepgae for the game.
Wait till TGS then we gonna to have lot of update
Von Himmel
2012-08-02, 12:11
But we do have an update showing new Elise and that old man look..? I didn't save the picture though.
well we have several video
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http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/019/428/l_50226cf4067b0.jpghttp://www.famitsu.com/images/000/019/428/l_50226cf4c17a4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OSvM6.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/tJE3p.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/AF0xr.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/H25G7.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9YzVD.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/hMcbZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7zNEh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7W3uu.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/09019428.html
Shinji103
2012-08-08, 13:27
Imo, Elise's old hairstyle suited her best. Rowen...............I'm not sure how I'd describe that. :heh:
Let me put it this way; if Jude and Milla don't show up in some way, I'm gonna cry. And then I'm gonna go homicidal. :eyespin:
momobunny
2012-08-08, 13:44
Yay Elise is back! She's my favorite Tales of Xillia character, though I do agree that her old hairstyle suited her more... but I don't hate her new hairstyle and her outfit is cute so I still like the new design. :3
Agreed on Elise's hair. But if this is the old anime cliche of "cutting hair = becoming more assertive", then she's more than welcome to sport a pixie-cut. Imagining cute Elise saying the insane crap that Tipo said warms my heart.
http://gematsu.com/gallery/tales-of-xillia-2/august-9-2012/
New Xillia 2 trailer with some awesome gamplay:
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Well, this PV seems to all but confirm that Ludger is gonna be a (mostly) slient protagonist. Quite the break of tradition for a tales game, and not a decision I can find myself supporting.
Is it me, or does that after-battle pose make the characters look really infantile and stupid =02?
Seems like Jude has appeared for the sequel:
http://i.imgur.com/aK8Om.jpg
kuroishinigami
2012-08-29, 21:09
Image change? He looks so different from xillia's Jude lol. I wonder how milla will looks like and if she will be playable.
Another scan came up, this time of Ludger's other form he transforms in to.
http://i.imgur.com/mx7hh.jpg
Looks a lot like that dude from the Xillia opening that fights Jude and Milla(wears black and red). Tales of Xillia 2: Ratatosk (>.>)...
That was Gaius in the Xillia 1 opening, I believe. And this form looks better than the slightly modified, silly version that they showed before.
That being said, Ratatosk was a bad idea the first time, it's a bad idea this time. Seriously, one character with an alternate form-like thing is enough.
kuroishinigami
2012-08-30, 21:03
I just realized ludger's last name is krusnik. Foreshadowing about his connection to spear of krusnik in xillia 1?
You just noticed that? :heh:
The spear was named after his ancestor.
Von Himmel
2012-08-31, 05:13
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/30/tales-of-xillia-videos-demonstrate-linke-artes-and-introduce-characters/
..you know I can't help but feel that there'll be an abundant amount of link artes with Ludgar + the others but there will only be a little for other charactes + other characters ._.
Nightengale
2012-08-31, 09:49
Jude, getting half-assed fashion tips from Gauis may not be necessarily be a good idea... :heh:
You need to go all the way if you want to pimp the Black & Red like Gaius did. :p
Still, kinda disappointed at the returning character's design. They kinda lost part of their memorable charm imo.
Shinji103
2012-08-31, 11:18
Yeah, I'm not too crazy about any of the characters' new designs either. :( They look funky now. And not the good kind of funky. Alvin's goatee, Reia's hat (well, the hat's not that bad), Elize's hair, Rowen's.....juat about everything, and definitely Jude's hair. Meh.
I hope they didn't treat Milla's new appearance to this new taste of fashion, but I'm probably swimming up the river there.....
kuroishinigami
2012-09-02, 21:35
Jude's inner clothes looks so similar to lloyd from symphonia now lol. His hair doesn't help too.
A new commericial that does feature some anime scenes.
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Shinji103
2012-09-08, 14:10
Still no sign if Milla, eh? Guess they're holding that bck for a surprise appearance. Or at least they'd better be. :p
Unfortunately, with the heroine of the game being 8 years old, I don't see any nice romance in this one unless Milla comes back. Or they do an epilogue 10 or so years later with Ludger unaged for whatever reason. It's happened before. :heh:
Milla has made her appearance:hyper-^v^:
http://i.imgur.com/w6j4c.jpg
Abyssalchronicles has noticed a few things to take notice as well.
http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/?fn_mode=comments&fn_id=960
Excorsism
2012-09-11, 11:25
So we'll finally get our Jude x Millia end? Haha!
Shinji103
2012-09-11, 11:34
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! And they didn't ruin it with a terrible new outfit and look! :D
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Although it is curious about the small discrepancies, like the feminine form of speech in her quote and the difference in her appearance.
Though, the blurb in that blog link is a bit off; it's actually "the swordswoman who completed her mission as Maxwell at the age of six." Thus why she isn't Milla Maxwell anymore; she completed her duties as Maxwell's successor and is living her own life, which would also explain her change in form of speech. (trying a new makeover or something)
But then that translation sounds off too, because Milla was 20 in Xillia 1. (but it is the literal translation)
By the way, Gaius and Myuze are also both on the other scan in that blog link.
Excorsism
2012-09-11, 11:42
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! And they didn't ruin it with a terrible new outfit and look! :D
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Although it is curious about the small discrepancies, like the feminine form of speech in her quote and the difference in her appearance.
Though, the blurb in that blog link is a bit off; it's actually "the swordswoman who completed her mission as Maxwell at the age of six." Thus why she isn't Milla Maxwell anymore; she completed her duties as Maxwell's successor and is living her own life, which would also explain her change in form of speech. (trying a new makeover or something)
But then that translation sounds off too, because Milla was 20 in Xillia 1. (but it is the literal translation)
By the way, Gaius and Myuze are also both on the other scan in that blog link.
Yeah that seems a bit weird. Either that means a reincarnation/avatar of the actual Milla with a more pragmatic personality/I don't even know and care because Milla is back! Which begs the question, how old is she now? It's about time Namco lets a certain ship sail with that ending they gave us last game :mad:.
Von Himmel
2012-09-11, 12:37
..I really need to finish Xilia soon. :heh: I don't know what happens that make her return, but at least we're getting her back.
Oh I hope she stays as a playable characters too :( but now that when I think about it, there's no other new playable characters other than Ludger in this game..I hope Gaius will also be playable too just like what's written in that abyssal chronicle
http://i.imgur.com/RZrMp.jpg
Looks like if you get Xillia 2 at launch you'll get these two costumes. Milla looks good in anything, doesn't she?:heh:
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/13/tales-of-xillia-2s-first-print-includes-classic-tales-costumes-for-jude-and-millia/
Also two videos, the first which showcases Elises abilites and the secoond which is a trailer for the DVD release or the 2012 Tales of Festival. The second one got me hyped seeing all the different tales seiyuus.:D
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Von Himmel
2012-09-19, 03:49
I've just finished ToX a couple of minutes ago and while browsing ToX2 gamefaqs forum, this information came up:
According to SummonerPascal from the Tales forums, the other Milla is from the alternate world, where she destroyed Ark Noah and prevented the creation of the Kresnik Spear/Lance, but lost her powers, all she was 6 years old. (really?!) Apparently has having no friends and was arrogant and prideful. She lives in Ni Akeria (alternate world version) with the two elder twin sisters of the two Great Spirits before meeting Ludger. Speaking of Ludger he apparently has a support skill to copy the support skill of anyone he's linked to.
Info also seems to come from here.
http://tokkurin.net/archives/50786889.html
and here.
http://taletalesource.blog69.fc2.com/
Can't read japanese, though.
...I dunno, it feels kinda stupid plot for me, especially after finishing the first game. It does make Milla appearing in this game more believable though :heh:
TGS trailer and ufotable impresses me once again.
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Oh yes and Madoka Magica costumes will be available for the girls too.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-09-23/madoka-magica-costumes-offered-in-tales-of-xillia-2
Edit: From talesunion.com
And for those wondering why Ludger is unvoiced in this trailer, the official explanation is that they weren't finished with recording and finalizing his lines prior to the recording, but he'll be voiced come the game's final release.
Von Himmel
2012-09-23, 10:36
Don't forget that all the DLCs from Xilia 1 could also be transferred to this game according to this : http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/?fn_mode=comments&fn_id=971
Maybe I'll buy some costumes next month to prepare for Xilia 2... that Dhaos outfit for Milla is kinda cool.
Yeah, thats a great move by namco to do. That Dhaos one is my favorite for Milla, still gotta see Milla fight in the Asbel costume to decide on that.
Instead of a Kyuubei accessory, they should've let you put the Kyuubei costume on Lulu.
Also, these Madoka costumes are really making me consider importing it. If they confirm Leia or Milla has Kyoko (leaning toward Kyoko if they base it off of weapon), it's going to be hard not to. Especially since I have the pre-order costumes for Milla and Jude from Xillia 1. Though I'm not sure if I'd have to get the Asian version since that's the Xillia version I got or if it'd just check for any DLC.
I finally found this thread. I looked all over the game forum section and really weird to find it here, but, oh well.
Anyway, the Madoka series sure his making it way in any shape or form in any medium it could find. I really like this idea, considering that I've recently been following this game after finishing Graces. Ufotable and the animation for this game looks amazing, and I wonder what Madoka costumes and accessories will come later on.
It's still worrying that chances of this sequel will probably not be localized unless sales for North America or whatever localization are great.
consider how "well" graces sales. as long if you keep enthusiast high enough we may get this
Well I continuously hear reports of Baba saying he wants to localize Tales games but it really depends if the western market is interested in this franchise anymore. Graces fell flat on its face so I was really shocked that Xillia got the OK. I thought Graces was great imo, but I guess other people just didn't see it that way.
It's still worrying that chances of this sequel will probably not be localized unless sales for North America or whatever localization are great.
They've already confirmed Xillia for 2013. As long as that doesn't bomb, which it shouldn't, there's no real reason not to get Xillia 2. Remember, it's not just North America. There's also Canada and Europe, and Europe has a HUGE Tales fanbase. They aren't going to localize it for Europe and then not release it in America given how low the costs are for just authorizing and printing compared to the returns.
Graces fell flat on its face so I was really shocked that Xillia got the OK.
It didn't really do that badly. It at least turned out a profit, and that was just based on US numbers. It doesn't take into account Europe or Canada.
I know Europe's version came out recently so I guess its too early to see how its selling right now? Their LE has a fantastic package so I can certainly see it doing well.
Shadow5YA
2012-09-23, 15:05
I really hope Millia and Jude don't end up usurping the spotlight in this one. If they're going to make a different character (Ludgar) the protagonist, then I would like him to stay the protagonist.
Well I continuously hear reports of Baba saying he wants to localize Tales games but it really depends if the western market is interested in this franchise anymore. Graces fell flat on its face so I was really shocked that Xillia got the OK. I thought Graces was great imo, but I guess other people just didn't see it that way.
I don't know what to think of that, but I will say this: I loved and enjoyed Graces to absolutely no end. I personally thought the story, characters, and the gameplay was fun, but many people whom I talk to about this game said that everything about it was cheesy and overdone. I guess the whole "friendship" theme sort of turned people off, but isn't that a most common premise for JRPG's? Who know, great game still.:)
They've already confirmed Xillia for 2013. As long as that doesn't bomb, which it shouldn't, there's no real reason not to get Xillia 2. Remember, it's not just North America. There's also Canada and Europe, and Europe has a HUGE Tales fanbase. They aren't going to localize it for Europe and then not release it in America given how low the costs are for just authorizing and printing compared to the returns.
It didn't really do that badly. It at least turned out a profit, and that was just based on US numbers. It doesn't take into account Europe or Canada.
I know that Xillia is getting localized worldwide next year, it's like I said, I'm still sort of new to the Tales series. Based on what I've read and heard about Japanese games getting the ok for localization, how can you not be skeptical. I mean we still haven't gotten the PS3 port for Vesperia, and other anime games I will not mention because I want to get this said series relevant to this thread. Anyway, I like the visuals and the direction of Xillia, and when it does come I have faith that it'll do well enough to convince Namco or whatever to localize the sequel for a release.
I admit I don't know how the localization process works, but it seems that fan demand isn't really enough to ensure that sales will be good. Could be wrong here, but it's like I said, I don't know how localization works, so yeah.:eyespin:
Klashikari
2012-09-23, 15:35
Though I'm not sure if I'd have to get the Asian version since that's the Xillia version I got or if it'd just check for any DLC.
Asian DLC are known not to work with JP games and vice versa. You better have the DLC of the same region, otherwise you will have a nasty surprise.
I know that Xillia is getting localized worldwide next year, it's like I said, I'm still sort of new to the Tales series. Based on what I've read and heard about Japanese games getting the ok for localization, how can you not be skeptical. I mean we still haven't gotten the PS3 port for Vesperia, and other anime game I will not mention because I want to get this said series relevant to this thread. I like the visuals and the directing of Xillia, and when it does come I have faith that it'll do well enough to convince Namco or whatever to localize the sequel for a release.
I admit I don't know how the localization process works, but it seems that fan demand isn't really enough to ensure that sales will be enough.Vesperia is absolutely not a good example. The issue is probably the same as Tales of Symphonia PS2 version that never came out of Japan. The reason is simple: the publisher would obviously not allow their work to be "borrowed" by anyone else, so for Vesperia PS3 to be localized, it would require Sony as the publisher to start the localization from scratches, which is seen obviously as a waste of time and money, considering how old the game is, and how people who are interested probably played the Xbox version.
The demand for such thing is drastically different if you look how publishers work for localization (Abyss is a different case, since it is Nintendo that took the initiative, a bit why Symphonia managed to get on US/EU gamecube, despite the western market hardly interested Namco at that period).
Asian DLC are known not to work with JP games and vice versa. You better have the DLC of the same region, otherwise you will have a nasty surprise.
I've heard they're interchangeable for Xillia, and I think I got the Japanese alt costumes + Asian pre-order costumes, but I'd need to check later.
Asian DLC are known not to work with JP games and vice versa. You better have the DLC of the same region, otherwise you will have a nasty surprise.
Vesperia is absolutely not a good example. The issue is probably the same as Tales of Symphonia PS2 version that never came out of Japan. The reason is simple: the publisher would obviously not allow their work to be "borrowed" by anyone else, so for Vesperia PS3 to be localized, it would require Sony as the publisher to start the localization from scratches, which is seen obviously as a waste of time and money, considering how old the game is, and how people who are interested probably played the Xbox version.
The demand for such thing is drastically different if you look how publishers work for localization (Abyss is a different case, since it is Nintendo that took the initiative, a bit why Symphonia managed to get on US/EU gamecube, despite the western market hardly interested Namco at that period).
Okay, I understand that, sorry for my lack of knowledge and poor choices ofwording. It's like I said, the whole deal about localization is still new to me. It was just my own skepticism and what I've heard about localization. That's all. Once again sorry, if I say something pretty unnecessary or pointless. I'll be more careful next time.
Shinji103
2012-09-24, 23:16
TGS trailer and ufotable impresses me once again.
T4vtDrmSsx4Yes, beautiful trailer indeed. The JudexMila fan in me would have preferred seeing a sneak peek at the scene of Jude meeting this "new" Mila and his reaction, though.
On that note, if the news of this Mila being an alternate Mila and not the Mila from ToX 1 is true..........what does this mean for JudexMila?
And LOL at Elize wondering if there will be anything romantic this time. YES PLEASE! :D
Von Himmel
2012-09-26, 08:06
http://i.imgur.com/Mst2p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mst2p.jpg
Gaius and Muse will be playable in Xilia 2 :D I've been fan of Gaius since I fought him the first time... his artes were pretty amazing.
I wonder if this Gaius/Muse is the one from alternate world or the one from the original Xilia 1 world.
OK so does this mean Xillia 2 will have the biggest cast of playable chracter?
thought i wondering if chose do effect the playable character
Von Himmel
2012-09-29, 03:42
I think Vesperia still has more characters in it. Could be wrong though since I never have the chance to play it :(
well vesperia have 8 (9 if you count loli pirate for PS3). Xillia 2 have 6 returning character + 2 (Gaius and Muse) + ludger which make it even. but i have feeling there will be more (like Julius)
anyway
http://www.otakustudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/TalesofXillia2-e1348496875905.jpg
TGS trailer and ufotable impresses me once again.
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Oh yes and Madoka Magica costumes will be available for the girls too.
That trailer blew me away. Can't stop the reply button. :D
I really wish they keep the awesome theme but eh, same as Japanese audio, this one will probably be out of reach. :(
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Hey, it's Preza! Alternative one, or...?
Von Himmel
2012-09-30, 05:19
Perhaps her ghost/illusion since she still used the same costume like the one in ToX 1..not to mention that it seems she knows Alvin well(?)
Aww, that's a shame. Let's hope you're wrong. ^^
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201210/04022179.html
Leia, Milla and battle vids. Jude's vid looks so slick.
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-leia-episode-milla-introduction-and-battle-videos
Von Himmel
2012-10-04, 14:11
I'm interested in that weak link artes..I wonder how that work :twitch: Also, it seems Agria also appears in this game :D
Kaioshin Sama
2012-10-04, 14:17
well vesperia have 8 (9 if you count loli pirate for PS3). Xillia 2 have 6 returning character + 2 (Gaius and Muse) + ludger which make it even. but i have feeling there will be more (like Julius)
anyway
http://www.otakustudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/TalesofXillia2-e1348496875905.jpg
Interesting costume design for Milla there.
http://i.minus.com/ibIomhzFTvu7c.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ibkPrqoa1A7JqI.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ibpW4yGRYn3fyA.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ijfaqXR6tBT6O.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ivAFWOzrHuMth.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ip91662VJMQIs.jpghttp://i.minus.com/iblhabsJudI50V.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ipyoUBc3ua9wu.jpghttp://i.minus.com/ivIFTR4lH0Zz6.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/e74Jl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yYy3M.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/TFNgb.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/MVM1b.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/DicTS.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/WaF6E.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ktJke.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/0ctrR.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/UzDMe.jpg
Costumes aren't looking half bad. Detail on the DLC costumes from Gematsu:
Download character costumes for Tales of Xillia 2‘s collaboration with Code Geass: Akito the Exiled have been revealed:
Ludger – Akito Hyuga
Gaius – Zero
Leia – Kanon Maldini
Alvin – Suzaku Kururugi
Milla – Reila Malkal
Elise – Nunnally
Jude: ??
Muse – C.C.?
Rowen – Jeremiah Gottwald
These will be released on November 1 for 500 yen each.
Download character costumes for the game’s Puella Magi Madoka Magica collaboration have also been revealed:
Milla – Homura Akemi
Elise – Madoka Kaname
Leia – Mami Tomoe
These will be released on November 15 for 500 yen each. Kyubey, the “Messenger of Magic,” will also be available as an attachment for 200 yen.
Ludger’s Voice and other bits
During the first playthrough of the game, Ludger’s voiced dialogue will be minimal. On your second playthrough, you will have the option to ‘turn on’ Ludger’s voice.
As previously announced, Tales of Xillia 2 includes a set of Tales of Xillia 1 story digest movies. These have been revealed to total at five in number, and can be chosen after the game’s opening movie.
Gaius and Muse have been officially confirmed as full party characters.
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-at-machi-asobi-code-geass-and-madoka-magica-dlc-detailed-ludgers-voice-more
Von Himmel
2012-10-06, 08:40
That Leila costume is instant buy :D Muse costume will be too... though I'm not too fond with the male characters design. Even Zero costume is a bit weird for me.
I find the lack of Kyouko disappointing.
darkchibi07
2012-10-06, 20:38
I find the lack of Kyouko disappointing.
You would think it would been perfect for Leia considering they're both staff/spear wielders. Though I don;t know if Leia could pull off a ponytail.
She totally could. But instead of going by personality or weapons, they just went by color theme. So even if Musee gets a Puella costume, she'll likely be Sayaka.
man i'm seriously tempted to import this game D:
So now we have 100 cats to find in Xillia 2. As if finding cats in symphonia wasn't annoying enough.:eyespin:
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-has-special-order-system-100-cats-to-find
So now we have 100 cats to find in Xillia 2. As if finding cats in symphonia wasn't annoying enough.:eyespin:
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-has-special-order-system-100-cats-to-find
But these cats will raid and pillage innocent civilians for your gain.
Shadow5YA
2012-10-09, 21:24
So now we have 100 cats to find in Xillia 2. As if finding cats in symphonia wasn't annoying enough.:eyespin:
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-has-special-order-system-100-cats-to-find
IIRC, you had to find dogs in Symphonia.
IIRC, you had to find dogs in Symphonia.
Oh yeah, your right. Well, same difference I suppose.:heh:
Cats was Graces, to warp you to the Cat Island or whatever.
New vids came up for Gaius, Muse, Rowen, Elise and Milla.
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-videos-gaius-and-muse-intros-elise-and-rowen-episodes-and-milla-special-attacks
Von Himmel
2012-10-10, 22:08
It really seems that the character development that isn't complete back in ToX 1 will be developed further in this game... Somehow it really reminds me of character arc in Legendia :heh:
Nightengale
2012-10-13, 23:04
It really seems that the character development that isn't complete back in ToX 1 will be developed further in this game... Somehow it really reminds me of character arc in Legendia :heh:
I loved the 2nd half of Legendia, so if this is going along that veins, I'm all for it. ( minus the EXCESSIVE backtracking ) :D
Xillia 2 academy announced.
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-academy-outfit-dlc-announced
Also an interview with Baba which has some interesting details. For me, the dual audio issue and the Vesperia PS3 localization was the most intriguing.
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/interview-tales-producer-hideo-baba-on-tales-of-xillia-more
and the hype meter goes up thanks mura
http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ToX2-Scan_10-23_001-600x407.jpg
The Milla from the first Xillia has been confirmed now.
http://i.imgur.com/i6Fnk.jpg
Von Himmel
2012-10-24, 08:44
HYPE HYPE
I don't think we could actually use her as party member but it's really good to see her back.
Shadow5YA
2012-10-24, 08:46
So... are we really going to see two Millias?
If they converse that is gonna be a lot of work for Sawashiro Miyuki.:heh:
So... I see she's developed a clock/gear fetish.
So... I see she's developed a clock/gear fetish.
Makes me think she has some connection to Ludger's transformation since clocks show up when he turns into that form.
More vids, Muse looks pretty fun to play as.
http://gematsu.com/2012/10/tales-of-xillia-2-videos-dlc-gaius-musee-episodes-more
Well, the clock/gear thing was a very big part of the zone or whatever you call it where the final battle took place in Xillia 1. That's likely where it comes from. Though Ludger is a Kresnick, which has a connection to Maxwell and likely that zone.
Shinji103
2012-10-27, 06:42
The Milla from the first Xillia has been confirmed now.
http://i.imgur.com/i6Fnk.jpg:twitch:
Well this is gonna be insteresting. There have been plenty of anime characters with girls, but I wonder how Jude will handle the presence of (technically) two of the girl he likes? :heh:
Nightengale
2012-10-28, 05:38
:twitch:
Well this is gonna be insteresting. There have been plenty of anime characters with girls, but I wonder how Jude will handle the presence of (technically) two of the girl he likes? :heh:
How Jude handles? More like...
http://i.imgur.com/DeN6L.jpg
It begs the question whether or not Jude even sees the new 'Milla' the same way he did with the original...
If he did, it would technically solve all the problems, but it just somehow doesn't feel as... right.
Key Board
2012-10-28, 05:45
I'm not sure if Jude has enough drive for that
He seems very.. what's the word... relenting? when it comes to Millia
Actually when I first heard the tagline for Xilia 2 (would you destroy the current world for a girl?)
I thought Jude had decided to go full Lelouch. I was disappointed when it was referring to something else.
..
Nightengale
2012-10-28, 06:37
Actually when I first heard the tagline for Xilia 2 (would you destroy the current world for a girl?)
I thought Jude had decided to go full Lelouch. I was disappointed when it was referring to something else.
..
Heh, I had the same thought. :heh:
Especially given the parallels between Jude & Gaius back in Xillia 1, and what Gaius's motives and methods were back in Xillia.
Shinji103
2012-10-28, 10:32
How Jude handles? More like...
http://i.imgur.com/DeN6L.jpgDidn't take long for the fan artists to capitalize on that, eh? :D
It begs the question whether or not Jude even sees the new 'Milla' the same way he did with the original...
If he did, it would technically solve all the problems, but it just somehow doesn't feel as... right.I agree on the not feeling right thing.....unless they develop JudexNew Milla some. Still, honestly I would be disappointed if Bamco didn't try and capitalize on the potential of MillaxJudexMilla in some way. Even Elize wanted to see something romantic happen this time. :D (maybe a subtle hint from Bamco? ;))
Actually when I first heard the tagline for Xilia 2 (would you destroy the current world for a girl?)
I thought Jude had decided to go full Lelouch. I was disappointed when it was referring to something else.
..Maybe I'm just slow, but that thought never occured to me at all. :heh:
Von Himmel
2012-10-28, 12:38
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/672891-tales-of-xillia-2/64450255
http://tokkurin.net/archives/50792364.html
..it looks like we can change the model of our character with another character. For example, I could have Elise using Jao's model... the bad news is, they still retain their original moves and voice. The good news, it looks like there will be several cameo characters models that we can use.
Honestly I'm looking forward to this more than costume in-game/dlc.
For alt!Milla, it looks like she's getting more development with Ludger. So either Jude doesn't care because it's not "his Milla", or he's going to go full on yandere on Ludger.
Looks like Cless and Stahn will make cameos to fight them in the arena.
http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/?fn_mode=comments&fn_id=1007
Jellyfish Marine
2012-10-30, 23:53
The prologue and OP have been released (officially or not, I'm not sure).
Here you go: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19244615
Apparently they were first uploaded to Youtube but I can't locate them there...
I am pretty much convinced that Elle is related to Ludgar by blood. In the prologue, her father sported twin blades and could morph into a corpse shell. Judging that those two qualities are kind of a signature of the Kresnik brothers, my bet is that Elle's father is actually a Kresnik, or at least has Kresnik blood. It is possible that...
1) he's Ludgar's missing father/Parallel world's Ludgar father (he looked too young though. Nevertheless, since there are space-time-parallel-dimension things going around here , I wouldn't be surprised if he really does turn out to be Ludgar's dad);
2) he is actually Ludgar (does not seem likely to me, but I have to admit that they resemble each other a bit); or
3) he's just a relative, e.g. Ludgar's uncle
I am a little disappointed with the OP animation. While it is well-drawn and well-animated, it does not excite nor move me as much as how TOX1's OP did--it's like they just compile all cut-in animations to fit the length of the song. If I hadn't known, I would have thought that it is a mediocre MAD/AMV...
Jellyfish Marine
2012-10-31, 04:15
Somebody has uploaded his video play of the first half of Chapter 1 on Niconico douga.
1. You have to make decision for Ludgar's EVERY SINGLE talk, even whether to call Julius "Julius" or "Big brother"...
2. He really does not talk AT ALL. At first I thought it would be an interesting feature but it ended up boring me a lot. I couldn't really get the feel of his character at all...and it felt really weird...
The game kind of throws you right into a battle with someone who oh-so-mysterJulius. That person taunted Ludgar a bit, saying that "the judgement" is very harsh and he wondered if someone like Ludgar would be able to stand it. He talked about the importance of making right decision..blahblahblah, before finishing Ludgar off.
Ludgar woke up. Lulu was lying beside him. He glimpsed at the alarm clock and realized that he was running late. Quick dash to the door.
Turned out it was the big day for Ludgar. What could have been more frightening than a job interview for the country's biggest company? Answer: having to clear a dungeon as part of the said interview, and with your brother as a no-nonsense proctor, who ensured you with laughter that he wouldn't be so extreme as letting you die here. Ludgar(you) proceeded to terminate all the monster and hurried back to report to Julius. Suddenly, a monster appeared to attack a lady (who appeared out of nowhere). Here you have the choice to help her or turn to Julius and ask him to help her. Up-nushi chose to help the lady, who when Ludgar managed to defeat the monster and helped her getting up...suddenly pulled out a knife to his throat. Julius reprimanded Ludgar for being to naive, asking him if he didn't find it strange that the lady suddenly appeared out of nowhere? Julius had to fail his brother because of this.
Elle's escape scene as seen in the prologue video.
kuroishinigami
2012-10-31, 04:31
Hmm, so they kinda took the silent hero approach, at least on the first playthrough. I actually prefer the non-silent type in my tales so I hope this won't get carried on to other tales title after this.
Jellyfish Marine
2012-10-31, 05:01
Hmm, so they kinda took the silent hero approach, at least on the first playthrough. I actually prefer the non-silent type in my tales so I hope this won't get carried on to other tales title after this.
Actually, what made me felt really odd when watching the play video was that Ludgar did not seem to be a silent type. He talked and made responses to other people, EXCEPT that we did not get to hear his voice.
Ludgar: ..........................(said to Jude that he's going to the train station anyway)
Jude: You're going to show me the way? Thanks!
Ludgar: .....................(making self-introduction)
Mr. B: Oh, I see, you're Julius's younger brother, huh?
It felt like you're cursed not to hear his voice while all other characters in the game can converse with him just fine...and that's starting to get on my nerve. I should probably wait until someone upload a video play from a second play...that should be better.
On a side note, my fear for the flood of Yaoi doujinshi is likely to become true =_=ili I really like how Ludgar interacts with his brother and Jude, but umm...how do I put this...?
[Ludgar shakes hand with Jude]
Me: Oh! That's really nice! They're going to become good friends! (I'm a sucker for good friendships)
...some 10 seconds later, a realization slowly sank into my mind...
Me: Crap...this is super gonna be a material for Fujoshi(s)...oh no...=_=ili
There's a New Game + option to give him voice. It makes me want to speed run a first playthrough.
darkchibi07
2012-10-31, 13:44
It makes me worried how this story will handle all these playable characters considering it's all about Ludger.
kuroishinigami
2012-10-31, 21:50
There's a New Game + option to give him voice. It makes me want to speed run a first playthrough.
I'm not good at doing speed run >_<
And this is why I hate Sony move to block some of save file transferring for some games. If what they're concerned about is just trophy achievement, they should have just blocked people from getting the trophy when using transferred save file, but with what they did right now, I can't even use save file from my friend to enjoy the game how I wan to.
Baba seems to be working on the next tales game.
http://gematsu.com/2012/11/work-on-the-next-tales-game-has-begun
It only makes sense. Games take a long time to make. You can't wait until the previous one is completely done and released to begin working on the new one. Honestly, I'd be surprised if they weren't already working on the game after the next one, and possibly spitballing ideas for the one after that.
Jellyfish Marine
2012-11-01, 10:27
I'm not good at doing speed run >_<
And this is why I hate Sony move to block some of save file transferring for some games. If what they're concerned about is just trophy achievement, they should have just blocked people from getting the trophy when using transferred save file, but with what they did right now, I can't even use save file from my friend to enjoy the game how I wan to.
I read somewhere in 2ch's TOX2 thread that you can probably transfer save file albeit you will get no trophy achievement. Maybe it worths giving a try?
There's a guy broadcasting his 2nd round play on Niconico, and he's my Kami-sama for now:) Things are 3xtimes better with Ludgar actually talking XD The first two chapters were kind of rushed in storytelling, but things started to get better and esp. after the Alt.timeline things had been explained. As usual, the casts are likeable and charming. Character's chapters are really good too.
Anyone planning to get some Geass DLC? I would recommend Milla's, Muse's, and Ludgar's ones; they looked really nice in the game. Jude's Suzaku was terrible though...
Von Himmel
2012-11-01, 10:47
Baba seems to be working on the next tales game.
http://gematsu.com/2012/11/work-on-the-next-tales-game-has-begun
Xillia 3? :D
Anyone planning to get some Geass DLC? I would recommend Milla's, Muse's, and Ludgar's ones; they looked really nice in the game. Jude's Suzaku was terrible though...
I think I'm getting one for Milla and Leia.. dunno about the other though. I still don't see any costume dlc that took my likings for the boys.
also.. it seems that we have multiple endings in this game? I'm worried whether I could get good ending or not if there's critical choice later in the game
Hiroshi Amearai
2012-11-01, 10:53
I haven't reached the end yet but somehow I got myself spoiled, lol. But it really concern me how they said that Milla Maxwell and Muse didn't appear in the ending at all. What happened to them? I wanna know, lol. Maybe Tales of Xillia - Milla Saga next? lol
Kaioshin Sama
2012-11-01, 11:59
Xillia 3? :D
Man at this rate we're closing in on a Tales game a year. If someone had told me at the time I first played Tales of Phantasia on an emulator back in high school that I was playing the first of what would eventually become a long spanning franchise of anime inspired action RPG's I'd never have believe them it just seemed like such a revolutionary one off experiment at the time. I remember just the fact that they got a full vocal song onto an SNES cart at the time completely blew my mind.
Man at this rate we're closing in on a Tales game a year. If someone had told me at the time I first played Tales of Phantasia on an emulator back in high school that I was playing the first of what would eventually become a long spanning franchise of anime inspired action RPG's I'd never have believe them it just seemed like such a revolutionary one off experiment at the time. I remember just the fact that they got a full vocal song onto an SNES cart at the time completely blew my mind.
It really just goes to show you that Baba is really making an effort to make the Tales Franchise a major one in Japan. You can almost put it in the bank that you'll see at least one new or remade tales game each year.
Kaioshin Sama
2012-11-01, 12:47
It really just goes to show you that Baba is really making an effort to make the Tales Franchise a major one in Japan. You can almost put it in the bank that you'll see at least one new or remade tales game each year.
It really seems to have taken off this generation and under his watch (he started with Vesperia right?) in a way not previously seen. It was always something of a well-regarded franchise, but it definitely seems like Namco Bandai wants it to seriously compete in the JPRG scene as a top title now. I think it bears mentioning that when first starting up Tales of Graces f and my last Tales game having been Abyss on PS2 (skipped Vesperia) the thing that immediately threw me for a complete loop was just how gorgeous the graphics suddenly looked comparatively and that's just based off of a Wii game and not even designed with HD in mind. Not to say HD hasn't been very kind to this franchise since Xillia even looks about the same magnitude of difference better over Graces that it is to Abyss, but the increased effort in character modeling, animations and overall aesthetics (everything just looks less stiff somehow) between gens is hard not to notice and I think is the biggest difference therein.
That said I think in spite of disappointments like FFXIII that the JRPG scene in general is starting to see a bit of a resurgence in North America as well towards the end of the current gen. Whereas at the start of this generation the attitude seems to have been that JRPGs were stale and not innovating or showcasing enough variety I think that has proven to not be true in the end.
Jellyfish Marine
2012-11-01, 18:18
Xillia 3? :D
I think I'm getting one for Milla and Leia.. dunno about the other though. I still don't see any costume dlc that took my likings for the boys.
also.. it seems that we have multiple endings in this game? I'm worried whether I could get good ending or not if there's critical choice later in the game
From what I read in a 2ch thread, apparently you will get a sort of bitter-sweet ending for the first play. It is speculated that you can get a True End on the second play. Haven't visited that thread since yesterday so I'm not sure how it's really going. I personally think that it is highly likely since there're lots of new decision-making events that only appear in the second play (based on the live broadcast I'm following).
Ludgar's Geass costume was quite good on eyes; it made him looked more manlier than his default costume ^^" On the other hand, I don't like Leia's one though. The costume only was fine but her Karen hairstyle somehow gave odd feelings ^^"
So they already got the next Tales planned? If they really are going to release a new game per year then they got to be extra careful about the quality... Not sure if I should take people from 2ch seriously, but apparently there are some hardcore fans who are unhappy with the recent Tales. Is Symphonia and Vesperia that godly? They keep referring to that two titles a lot. I didn't like Symphonia's protagonist so I've never really check it out :(
I figured it would have different endings and im really curious how much their are and what happens in them.
Symphonia and Vesperia are really good, but those people on 2ch are just being your common "things were better before, now they suck!" kind of people.
As for endings, there are 4. Good, semi-good, bad, and special. Special is an ufotable animated hot springs visit. It rocks.
Oh yeah i saw the special on youtube...and it was hilarious :heh: . How many anime cutscenes are there this time around btw? As for vesperia and symphonia i loved vesperia but i haven't played symphonia yet unfortunately.
I think I heard five, plus the opening and the four endings.
Mind to share the Special one :3
So five animation scenes plus the op and four endings? That seems about the usual number. Man for some reason xillia 2 just sounds way more interesting then the first xillia (even though im really looking forward to that one). Hopefully xillia 1 sells well so we can get the real prize aka xillia 2! :D @rrw not all of it but... (slightly NSFW) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLKeId8yEEg
^ ahh thanks but i found better ver
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OMG! :heh: every Tales fan (Boys and Girls) squeeing everywhere :hyper-^v^:
other ending can be viewed in same channel
Thanks :D
Here is what i believe all the endings are
Bad end - Ludgar kills elle(?) but it is too late and the world is about to end either that or ludger saves the world but killed elle.
Semi good end - Ludget takes over a company and meets grown up elle who is his new partner
Good end - Grown up elle reads some stuff about lugger and how successfull he is
Also still no final boss vids? :( (i love watching those it gives me a perfect feel about the battle system.)
Not quite:
I haven't read too much of the bad ending's lead-up events, but I think Elle sacrifices herself. Don't think Ludger kills her.
Semi-good: Ludger meets Elle's mother, but she isn't her mother yet since Elle is from the future/alternate world or something.
Good: Actually, Ludger is one of the only character she doesn't read anything about (the others being Milla and Musee).
Ah sorry my mistake then :heh:
I thought ludget killed her because of the blood on his face and julius sad but maybe thats something entirely different
As for the good ending huh couldda sworn that was ludger :heh:
kuroishinigami
2012-11-01, 20:43
I read somewhere in 2ch's TOX2 thread that you can probably transfer save file albeit you will get no trophy achievement. Maybe it worths giving a try?
There's a guy broadcasting his 2nd round play on Niconico, and he's my Kami-sama for now:) Things are 3xtimes better with Ludgar actually talking XD The first two chapters were kind of rushed in storytelling, but things started to get better and esp. after the Alt.timeline things had been explained. As usual, the casts are likeable and charming. Character's chapters are really good too.
Anyone planning to get some Geass DLC? I would recommend Milla's, Muse's, and Ludgar's ones; they looked really nice in the game. Jude's Suzaku was terrible though...
Really? Then I guess I'll wait for my friend to finish his first playthrough while playing the new super robot wars since I don't care that much about trophy :D or maybe some kind soul here would be kind enough to share their clear save file once they finish their first pay through? :D
As for DLC, I actually kinda hate the DLC approach so I never bought them, although I kinda understand about this approach for costume from another franchise(like geass or Madoka). At least Namco is still good enough to release the full game instead of selling the later part as DLC :heh:
Von Himmel
2012-11-01, 23:05
Really? Then I guess I'll wait for my friend to finish his first playthrough while playing the new super robot wars since I don't care that much about trophy :D or maybe some kind soul here would be kind enough to share their clear save file once they finish their first pay through? :D
As for DLC, I actually kinda hate the DLC approach so I never bought them, although I kinda understand about this approach for costume from another franchise(like geass or Madoka). At least Namco is still good enough to release the full game instead of selling the later part as DLC :heh:
Save files would probably be uploaded in gamefaqs.. you just need to hack it so that you can play it with your account lol.
Seriously though, it's a good thing that this didn't get released at the same time as SRW:OG. At the very least I could save some money first until late Nov to buy OG.
kuroishinigami
2012-11-01, 23:28
Save files would probably be uploaded in gamefaqs.. you just need to hack it so that you can play it with your account lol.
Seriously though, it's a good thing that this didn't get released at the same time as SRW:OG. At the very least I could save some money first until late Nov to buy OG.
Save file is hackable to be used on other account? I hope you won't mind if I PM you for the know-how since that will help me a lot :D
BTW, for people that doesn't mind being spoiled and watch xillia2 playthrough video, how does it look playing as Ludger? Is his change weapon on the fly feature as fun as it sound?
^ ahh thanks but i found better ver
97nqctrjnOQ
OMG! :heh: every Tales fan (Boys and Girls) squeeing everywhere :hyper-^v^:
other ending can be viewed in same channel
My dream come true, ufotable hot spring ftw!:D
Edit:Saw all the other vids on that channel too, though one was taken down because of copyright so the rest may not be up for too long.
When he heard the name maxwell and took a battle stance, so many feels swirled inside me.:hyper-^v^:
Von Himmel
2012-11-02, 00:25
Save file is hackable to be used on other account? I hope you won't mind if I PM you for the know-how since that will help me a lot :D
BTW, for people that doesn't mind being spoiled and watch xillia2 playthrough video, how does it look playing as Ludger? Is his change weapon on the fly feature as fun as it sound?
I could explain it here, you know? :heh: We need game genie/xploder so that we can change other param.sfo file to your param.sfo file... problem is, I don't have both game genie/xploder so I usually ask my friend that have it to change it for me (especially after I lost all my save files from my old ps3 :uhoh:).
As for Ludger.. from what I've seen in the stream, I couldn't sa much because the enemies were all too weak at that moment. I've heard that there's already someone who posted his walkthrough in YT, so maybe you could check it?
anyway, someone already got 9999 hit combo :heh:
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kuroishinigami
2012-11-02, 01:03
I see. so we need to buy additional program to do it. Thanks for the info :). Now on to find some save file for Japanese games, because gameaqs usually don't have them XD(gamefaqs doesn't have one for xillia 1 either)
Shinji103
2012-11-02, 03:34
Geez, seriously how the heck are people already finishing the game? :twitch: And btw, all those special hot springs ending videos are removed. :heh:
Unfortunately I already spoiled myself a bit on those spoiler tags, but just tell me one thing guys, no details; does anything romantic actually happen this time?
Geez, seriously how the heck are people already finishing the game? :twitch: And btw, all those special hot springs ending videos are removed. :heh:
Unfortunately I already spoiled myself a bit on those spoiler tags, but just tell me one thing guys, no details; does anything romantic actually happen this time?
i have download ver.
well there is some romance but more tragedy
Geez, seriously how the heck are people already finishing the game? :twitch: And btw, all those special hot springs ending videos are removed. :heh:
Don't worry, I've already made sure that the best part (http://yoshi-x2.tumblr.com/post/34746004969/i-regret-nothing) is around for everyone to enjoy. :heh::heh::heh:
Special ed (Low Quality)
http://www.mediafire.com/?6w20xoy5k2ibw1u
enjoy
Jellyfish Marine
2012-11-02, 08:30
Not quite:
I haven't read too much of the bad ending's lead-up events, but I think Elle sacrifices herself. Don't think Ludger kills her.
Semi-good: Ludger meets Elle's mother, but she isn't her mother yet since Elle is from the future/alternate world or something.
Good: Actually, Ludger is one of the only character she doesn't read anything about (the others being Milla and Musee).
No...no... ;________;
I kind of held on a faint hope that there would be at least one ending where Elle opted to stay with Ludger, becoming a part of family or something...
Anyway, was it heavily implied that the lady whom Ludger met was Elle's mother (alt. or not)? I am still inclined toward the idea that Elle is some sort of his granddaughter rather than a daughter. Hmm, but then again with the alternate world stuff @-@ /me getting confused...
No...no... ;________;
I kind of held on a faint hope that there would be at least one ending where Elle opted to stay with Ludger, becoming a part of family or something...
Anyway, was it heavily implied that the lady whom Ludger met was Elle's mother (alt. or not)? I am still inclined toward the idea that Elle is some sort of his granddaughter rather than a daughter. Hmm, but then again with the alternate world stuff @-@ /me getting confused...
She outright says her name, and Ludger remembers Elle telling him what her mom's name was. It's 100% her (normal, not alt).
Anyone have a link to the anime cutscenes? They got taken down :(. Also...
Apparently alt milla dies no matter what you do...god damn its been a while since we had a party member death like what since abyss?
Shinji103
2012-11-02, 16:20
So how do you get the game ending to go which way? I.e. do you get the good endings by picking good answers through the game and the bad ending by picking bad choices, or is there one single point in the game that decides which ending you get?
Well I know that if you let alt milla go sending her to her doom at one point in the game you get the bad ending (or something like that)
Jellyfish Marine
2012-11-02, 22:49
She outright says her name, and Ludger remembers Elle telling him what her mom's name was. It's 100% her (normal, not alt).
Thanks for the info. :)
...If I can reach the Land of Kanaan, then I will wish to Seirei Baba for a DLC ending where she survives ;_______; It wretched my heart watching how Jude and co. treated her (though I kinda understand their feelings too...). Tonight's play video will start around the point where Milla has come back. I just hope that Jude and co. won't go happy happy right away and forget about Alt. Milla =_=
EDIT: Just watched that part. Poor Elle ;_;...
...The one who composed Gaius Manjuu CM song was Wingal....
Von Himmel
2012-11-03, 05:02
Looking at gamefaqs it seems that there are already many people who got it (goddammit ._.).. mine was still stuck shipping so I don't know when I'll get it >_>;
anyway it seems that there are several hi-ougis extension in this game and not just dual hi-ougi between Ludger x character. It's not confirmed yet so I don't know whether it's true or not.
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Von Himmel
2012-11-05, 16:20
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19286389
more hi-ougis that has been found... or maybe it's all of them? Beware of spoilers though.
Anyway the game is pretty fun. While it's tiresome to kill all those enemies on the map, it feels like it's more rewarding than its prequel since every e.core matters lol.
Shinji103
2012-11-08, 18:18
So is there any more word on what Ludger choice(s) at which point(s) of the game get you which endings?
Von Himmel
2012-11-09, 04:57
So is there any more word on what Ludger choice(s) at which point(s) of the game get you which endings?
I think the choices that matter are the last choice in the ending and some part in the middle of the game where you could get a bad ending.. simply put, you could say that the choices aren't that important? It still gives me a feeling that I could roleplay Ludger character the way I want to though so I'm fine with it :p
It standard JRPG choice system really. Most of them only have few change that effect for short period of time. like choosing which part you take. different bonus, ETC. only few of them effect the ending
Von Himmel
2012-11-09, 05:43
It standard JRPG choice system really. Most of them only have few change that effect for short period of time. like choosing which part you take. different bonus, ETC. only few of them effect the ending
Oh yeah I forgot that some choices also affect some routes :heh: For example, you could get Leia first or later based on the choice you made in the beginning of chapter..2, I think.
Shinji103
2012-11-09, 18:12
So which choices are the one(s) that decide which ending you get?
So which choices are the one(s) that decide which ending you get?
Dunno how much other option will effect the ending.
but pretty much choice before and after final boss is the one that decide the ending.
shmaster
2012-11-09, 18:21
This is how endings work
Bad End- Choose to protect Julius
Normal - Let Elle die
Good - Choose to sacrifce Ludgar
Parody - ASk Cless and co. to help you
Daniel E.
2012-11-09, 23:48
Can I ask you guys to be a bit more careful about how you use spoiler tags?
Using them with a one liner and no label is pointless, since nobody can't tell wich post you are replying to (if any), or if you are simply mentioning something different.
Von Himmel
2012-11-11, 04:12
I've just finally finished it... damn, the ending was pretty good ;_; This game is probably one of the few RPG that I enjoyed playing in PS3 lol
Anyway for those who wants to know the choice to get the endings, you could see this page (beware of spoilers though) : http://gameclear.org/tox2/ . It also has the correct choice to choose to get affections from party members
So sorry :(. Anyway after having a better grasp of the story this is defenitely the darkest tales of game and i really hope tox 1 does well so we can get this.
Hagoshod
2012-12-19, 23:15
>Download soundtrack
>Annoying young girl.mp3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/tenshousouhazan/izumi_wut.jpg
Dr. Casey
2012-12-19, 23:17
Is Annoying Young Girl a bad song?
Hagoshod
2012-12-21, 20:39
Naw, it's good. I made a blog post about it (http://chichichichipndale.deviantart.com/journal/Some-JRPGs-are-ballsy-343760381) and made a remix of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN1dfobkJUs)
Oh wow. No wonder I can't find ToX1 and 2 in the "games" section. So it has its own section under "anime" all along D:
Anyway, yeah, like several of the posts said before, the ending is pretty freaking good. One of the only 'Tales of...' that made me tear up. I'm talking about the "TRUE END" by the way.
Ludger starting humming THE SONG, and when Musee went over to touch Gaius' hand ;_;
Overall, ToX2 is a great game; I think it actually exceeded ToX1 in many ways (gameplay, story, characterization, etc.). Though, it's a bitch to platinum (on my 3rd playthrough because I'm too impatient)... but I guess that could also mean that the game is worth it since it's so re-playable.
Excorsism
2013-01-27, 06:20
Well... I finished the game and I do not like any of the endings except for the cameo and debt ending, :frustrated:.
We all know Jude x Milla is the OTP. The game just doesn't follow through like it should. But this is just the rantings of a butthurt shipper.
That aside, the ending cinematic you get in the "true" ending was incredibly lame. Like, really.
Could've used more of the scenes between the two like in Jude's last character episode. That's some good stuff.
I feel empty and terrible, :(. Back to fulfilling my fantasies with images from pixiv.
kuroishinigami
2013-01-28, 21:10
This is Ludger story, not Jude's anymore :heh:
Excorsism
2013-03-13, 02:06
Well, at least Japan knows where all the goodies are at with their fanbooks and stuff. Long live Jude x Milla!
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Red_Spyro/32770900_big_p12.jpg
Chaos2Frozen
2013-05-10, 07:07
Namco Bandai Yearly Revenue Up (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/10/namco-bandai-yearly-revenue-up)
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 sold 1.5 million copies, falling short of its 1.7 million projections. The Japan-only title Tales of Xillia 2 also fell short of Namco Bandai’s expectations of 650,000 copies with 500,000 sold.
kuroishinigami
2013-05-12, 02:37
Well, they overestimate how much they're going to sell for Xillia 2. There's no way Xillia 2 going to oversell the 15th anniversary title Xillia since basically the one playing Xillia 2 is going to be Xillia player - the players who thought Xillia was not good enough. That's the bad thing about sequel IMO, it's never going to attract more new player who doesn't even bother playing the original game.
Chaos2Frozen
2013-05-12, 02:39
Well, they overestimate how much they're going to sell for Xillia 2. There's no way Xillia 2 going to oversell the 15th anniversary title Xillia since basically the one playing Xillia 2 is going to be Xillia player - the players who thought Xillia was not good enough. That's the bad thing about sequel IMO, it's never going to attract more new player who doesn't even bother playing the original game.
It can be done, but it has to have some vast improvements with very positive user feedback.
kuroishinigami
2013-05-12, 03:20
Hmmm... the problem is I can't think of any direct sequel(I'm not talking about FF VI-FF VII type sequel here, more like FFX - FFX-2 type of sequel) that make some vast improvement.
Besides, even the story in Xillia 2 itself basically expect the player to at least has some knowledge of Xillia setting to enjoy it, what's with all the returning character at all, which basically show that Baba-P and Namco Bandai target Xillia player as the potential customer. I think they just overestimate the number of Xillia player that they think will come back to play with what basically is an improvement of Xillia(although I do kinda wish Baba-P retain the system of being able to change your party member on the fly to make some nice combo).
Tekken Tag OTOH, is a different case altogether, since basically it's very different from the normal Tekken. I guess they, just like a lot of major Japanese game developer, really tend to overestimate their sales forecast.
Kirayuki
2013-05-12, 04:29
Take into account the fact that many things from the 1st one are recycled into the 2nd game too.
Well, they overestimate how much they're going to sell for Xillia 2. There's no way Xillia 2 going to oversell the 15th anniversary title Xillia since basically the one playing Xillia 2 is going to be Xillia player - the players who thought Xillia was not good enough. That's the bad thing about sequel IMO, it's never going to attract more new player who doesn't even bother playing the original game.
Xillia 1 sold over 700k, possibly lifetime 1m. 650k is not over that. :p
Hmmm... the problem is I can't think of any direct sequel(I'm not talking about FF VI-FF VII type sequel here, more like FFX - FFX-2 type of sequel) that make some vast improvement.
From my understanding, Tales of Destiny 2 accomplished this task and sold more than Destiny 1.
kuroishinigami
2013-05-12, 11:36
Xillia 1 sold over 700k, possibly lifetime 1m. 650k is not over that. :p
Yes, I know that Xillia sold over 700k, but IMO Namco Bandai still overestimate their product if they think almost 85% of those buyer are going to return buying a sequel with just a little update(and I don't think they sold more than 1m, considering Japanese game sales trend, very high 1st week sales, then almost no sales after that). They could have took FFXIII and FFXIII-2 number to estimate how many % of returning customer will buy for a direct sequel product with minor update in a current gen console (it's 697k to 1,7 million coppies BTW, not surprising considering criticism with the game).
From my understanding, Tales of Destiny 2 accomplished this task and sold more than Destiny 1.
Wait, Destiny 2 sold more than Destiny 1? I'm having a hard time believing that since Destiny 1 got a complete remake on PS2 while Destiny 2 only got a port on PSP.
In fact, Wikipedia number(I know, not the most accurate source, but it's something) says that Destiny 1 on PS1 sold for 1,139,000 copies while destiny 2 sold only for 977,000 copies for PS2(around 85%, but Destiny was the outlier considering its the most successful tales game saleswise in Japan), and remember, Destiny 2 was majorly improved over Destiny 1 since they're made on different generation of console, which usually lead to more expectation from their old customer(I still remember how excited I was with FFXIII, which turn out to be a big disappointment :heh:).
Kirayuki
2013-07-06, 10:49
Seems like TOX 2 will be coming to Europe in 2014, just announced today on Japan Expo
https://twitter.com/Klashikari/status/353518269073854465
Chaos2Frozen
2013-07-06, 10:50
Yup, oh Hell yeah :eyespin:
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/06/tales-of-xillia-2-is-coming-to-the-west-in-2014/
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/06/tales-of-xillia-2-is-coming-to-the-west-in-2014/
Tales of Xillia 2 coming to the west next year sweet! 2014 is definitely looking up for me now. The great gaming news (disregarding Xbox 1) just keep coming! Can't wait to get the Puella Magi Madoka Magica skins from the PSN or hopefully as a pre-order bonus.:)
If we assume the same timeframe for release as Xillia 1, which was announced July 6th (HRMMM), 2012, then we're likely looking at Summer 2014 for Xillia 2. Not too bad.
Can't wait to get the Puella Magi Madoka Magica skins from the PSN or hopefully as a pre-order bonus.:)
Well, they obviously won't be a pre-order bonus. We get the same pre-order bonus that Japan gets, which was Yuri!Jude, Asbel!Milla, and Emil!Ludger. We might get the Madoka costumes on the PSN, but I wouldn't suggest holding your breath. Honestly, they're the only reason I imported it, since I figure there's a 3% chance at best of getting them here.
Very nice news indeed. So glad they're pushing to get more tales games over.
And I've been stuck in the middle of my Xillia 2 playthrough for the longest time, so I think I'll just wait for this instead. Would also be great if they decide to incorporate dual audio (yay!) like symphonia HD is doing, and unlock Ludger's voice from the start as a bonus. :heh:
Doubtful on both counts. It'd be beyond weird to have dual audio in X2 and not X1, so unless they change course and add it to X1, don't expect it. And unlock Ludger's voice doesn't do much, but it would involve having to recode stuff, so that's more than I'd expect them to do.
Doubtful on both counts. It'd be beyond weird to have dual audio in X2 and not X1, so unless they change course and add it to X1, don't expect it..
please don't crush my dreams of hearing Miyuki Sawashiro in-game ;_;
kuroishinigami
2013-07-08, 00:25
They might give japanese voice over as paid dlc after launch if the new symphonia sells well. It's BanNam after all, they're always looking for more money from extras :heh:
Von Himmel
2013-07-08, 00:49
I'll buy it for Sugita, Miyukicchi and Hayamin :heh: though I'm also interested in seeing how the english VA will voice Alt.Milla
They might give japanese voice over as paid dlc after launch if the new symphonia sells well. It's BanNam after all, they're always looking for more money from extras :heh:
This is a possibility as well. And as long as it were no more than $10, I'd buy it.
kuroishinigami
2013-07-08, 22:08
5$ for each character's Japanese voice(with villain's voice being free) :p
Chaos2Frozen
2013-07-08, 22:12
5$ for each character's Japanese voice(with villain's voice being free) :p
$2 for spell's sound effects.
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