Licensed + Crunchyroll Hitsugi no Chaika (Coffin Princess Chaika) [seasons 1 & 2] [Archive] - Page 4

ellessarr

2014-06-08, 20:23

man i really have mixed feelings toward this serie, all the rush for near the end do something which was supposed to be did in the first or second episode???, this was supposed to be told in the beginner, i'm starting to suspect who probably some important inf which was also told in the beginner probably will be pop-up near the end just to make some "filler" moments to strench(in a weird way) the anime for the second season.

i really dont know if even not aware of the manga or novel if i'm not still feel the "rush" feeling, because is too hard to not notice it.

another thing which i really dislike is the poor threatment akari is getting here in manga she is much more fun and living than that completly emotionless/inexpressive robot in anime, she is serious but less pokerface than here.

askara

2014-06-09, 05:45

That would be very inappropriate and most likely not what she would want to do with her father's remains. She wants to bury him, not use him against his wishes like everyone else is doing.

i dont see why not, i mean you are not wacking people with the remain, using the remain doesnt physically touch/damage them and she already carry them everywhere she go and by using them she can easily kick everyone's ass and collect all the remain much faster and give him a proper burial

Arya

2014-06-09, 05:56

another thing which i really dislike is the poor threatment akari is getting here in manga she is much more fun and living than that completly emotionless/inexpressive robot in anime, she is serious but less pokerface than here. Yep, I am an anime viewer, but the way she was (not) showed in the flash back was unfair even for her. Considering that the interesting part of the flash back, apart from the trainer guy, has been Akari and the way she was different from the grown-up Akari that we know. Not that Toruu's sad story wasn't sad, but, well, just not so interesting. For me obviously.

Death Usagi

2014-06-09, 15:21

I want my Red Chaika back :(

NinjaRealist

2014-06-09, 19:44

I want my Red Chaika back :(

Red Chaika is the anime babe of the season as far as I'm concerned.

Guido

2014-06-09, 19:57

For the Chaika storyline the current arc of episodes reminds me a little bit to the first episodes of the first Fullmetal Alchemist anime. I mean the Chaika party is traveling throughout the continent, meeting and getting involved with different characters, and, nonetheless, they end up helping them.

After watching the eighth episode, I do have my doubts on Emperor Gaz. I mean the leaders of the Six Nations refer to him or imply he was a sort of fiend or a most hated enemy of the continent. However, nothing recorded in the Library neither proves nor disproves that claim.
Furthermore, the band of bandits encountered by Tooru and co. happened to be former citizens of the Gaz Empire from the countryside, and while they never saw the Emperor for real except hearing the usual rumors spread by the common folk, they lived normal lives in their respective homes until the outbreak of the war.
It implies that the citizens themselves, or at least those from the countryside, did not suffer a sort of brutal treatment while being ruled by the Emperor when he was still active and alive.
Again, since there's virtually null information on Arthur Gaz that last statement can neither be proved or disproved. However, I am wary about the rumors on Arthur Gaz performing human experiments to further progress his research in magic and alchemy. Although, the Gaz Emperor may have seen and behaved ruthless and dreaded against the enemies of the Empire, but concerned, at least, with the welfare of the Empires' citizens, but that's just my personal theory.

ReddyRedWolf

2014-06-10, 10:30

From what we know the continent owes its technology to the guy.

He may not be some ruthless tyrant but some Mad Scientist that earned enemies through envy because he was immortal and a really powerful wizard.

The 8 heroes does not seem heroic at all more like mercenaries. From what we can get is that they murdered the real Chaika in cold blood.

Since we do not have a timeline of events maybe the reason there is so many Chaika is that Gaz through Mad Magic Science wanted his daughter back creating clones of her. This involved human experimentation.

The six nations leaders could've created their own worst nightmare by sending mercs or assassins after Gaz who killed his daughter. He was a reasonable guy until they gave him a reason to be unreasonable.

Our heroic antagonist is starting to question what is justice. If he can only hear what is being said in the council chamber he'd learn the current peace is a false peace.

Tenzen12

2014-06-10, 11:14

So far there wasn't anyone who would confirm Gaz was actualy nice fellow and it's clear there had to be reason for rebellion in first place as well.

Anh_Minh

2014-06-10, 11:31

There was no confirmation he was horrible either. So far, it looks like some people just wanted power so they offed the top guy.

Tenzen12

2014-06-10, 12:02

So far it doesn't look anyhow. In first place which "people" was supposed want his power? Heroes maybe? Hardly, if they wanted power so badly to wage war for it, they would need bigger ambitions. And if somone above them, it would be him/her who would take his body instead.

Also after Emperor Gaz death noone tried keep that huge imperium together which means it wasn't for territory either.

Anh_Minh

2014-06-10, 13:11

Tenzen12

2014-06-10, 14:02

That's exactly point. Do you realy thing you can get group of who know how many power hungry people rise their armies in civil war and just after king is killed devide fairly and honestly territory on equal parts?

That would be most honorable group of villains that didn't actualy had good intention I saw in anime or actualy any work regarldless of medium.

On top of that any wars especialy civil ones are difficult to lead without support of people.

Death Usagi

2014-06-10, 21:08

Red Chaika is the anime babe of the season as far as I'm concerned.

Princess of bondage.

:D

Vaans

2014-06-11, 07:45

I wonder, why is this tagged as harem?

EroKing

2014-06-11, 08:38

http://i.imgur.com/AqjrCJZl.png (http://imgur.com/AqjrCJZ)

Sidapa

2014-06-11, 09:23

I wonder, why is this tagged as harem?

I think it is because there are multiple females who like Toru in some way.

tsunade666

2014-06-11, 09:50

I think it is because there are multiple females who like Toru in some way.

that's not true.

The story can't be called a harem if you ask me.

askara

2014-06-11, 10:02

both red and white Chaika like him including Akari and presumable the dragon girl in the near future i dont think it is wrong to call it harem

wakbob

2014-06-11, 13:37

OMG todays episode. Dat cliffhanger.

EroKing

2014-06-11, 13:49

Akari : "Fredrica, I don't mind if you kill Brother, but please avoid leaving any large wounds, as I intend to have him stuffed."

Gold :heh: :heh:

ChampDream

2014-06-11, 14:03

Things got interesting this episode.

EroKing

2014-06-11, 14:25

I'm pretty confident Akari will be fine, doubt this show would do something to kill itself :heh:
However,
http://i.imgur.com/JyC5R5Wl.jpg (http://imgur.com/JyC5R5W)
some fans must have raged at that scene thinking "Who said you could touch my lovely Akari?!!!" :x

Quite obvious that all the captured girls are most likely brain-washed and being used as soldiers. Somewhere during the episode though I was thinking they might be using all of their memories to fuel that giant flying fortress and in the end killing them all Valvrave style, thankfully this show isn't that dark :uhoh:

HayashiTakara

2014-06-11, 15:23

I'm just going to say it, Touru and Chaika deserved to be tricked like that. Who in their right mind would trust a stranger in enemy territory? A girl who just happen to be wandering around unmolested by guards, when the entire fortress is void of life. Yeah let's follow her, it can't possibly be a trap /eyeroll

Flower

2014-06-11, 15:45

Now that was an exciting episode ... I was glued to the screen throughout the entire thing!

And, hate to say it, but I reeaaalllllllllyyyyyy want Toru to take down the youngest prince there, they both fight dual wield with short blades, and if anyone could knock that self absorbed, sadistic, spoiled brat off of his high horse it could be Toru.

Poor Frederica though! Yes, I know she can heal and what not, but still ... never like to see things like that happen.

I wonder if Leyla will be another Chaika clone, though?

Am also hoping Frederica will be able to be the ticket out for Vivi and Zuita, and that the mutual escape will hope further their friendship. :)

Great story.... ^^

tsunade666

2014-06-11, 16:18

thankfully this show isn't that dark :uhoh:

Ah, its that dark. Or rather the original is dark. Blame the anime for changing and making things up like a joke.

Random Wanderer

2014-06-11, 16:32

Quite obvious that all the captured girls are most likely brain-washed and being used as soldiers. Somewhere during the episode though I was thinking they might be using all of their memories to fuel that giant flying fortress and in the end killing them all Valvrave style, thankfully this show isn't that dark :uhoh:

...I think it's darker. Theory: Layla is the real Chaika Gaz. The girls are being taken and either murdered or mutilated. One way or another, they are being turned into copies of her, and being sent out to retrieve remains and bring them back here. Most likely the girls get "taken apart" by the child psychopath and reassembled as Chaikas. Chaika seemed... suspiciously enthusiastic about them needing to get inside that fortress, despite not having cast any detection magic to find the remains or anything else. I think there are subconscious commands in her mind telling her to go to the fortress.

And yes, I do indeed think this show is that dark.

HandofFate

2014-06-11, 17:04

episode 10 sure has a lot of interesting scenes.
Kind of laughed at how the series keeps making excuses to remove Fredericka from the battle so she doesn't just step on everything. My reaction when she got stabbed and thrown away wasn't "noo Fredericka" it was "these guys are going to get their butts kicked when she heals up"

The Duke's son, how is he able to tell Akari is a saboteur? Also it seems like its been forever since Akari or Toru use their Iron Blood hypnosis technique.

Kind of meh on the standard "Lord taking all the girls of the village" story. I kind you kind of have to one scenario of this in this type of fantasy medieval setting. Assuming the people in the knights armor are all girls that are mind-controlled like Akari, why girls in the first place? Are their minds easier to control or something?

Dumb Toru and Chaika getting tricked.
Anyway, I think the girl in the hood is going to be another Chaika clone.
Anyway, looking forward to some Toru vs. Akari action next episode.

Anime Online

2014-06-11, 19:29

I wonder how are flying fortresses supposed to fight each other. Are they going to have a shooting match? Or just bump into each other until one falls onto the ground?

blakstealth

2014-06-11, 20:08

I wonder how are flying fortresses supposed to fight each other. Are they going to have a shooting match? Or just bump into each other until one falls onto the ground?guns guns guns

Man, it was hard seeing Akari so helpless like that. Hope the Ricardo and Grad get their just desserts.

Master_Yoma

2014-06-11, 21:15

Frederica really wants to kill Tooru should run

Esclair

2014-06-11, 22:30

...I think it's darker. Theory: Layla is the real Chaika Gaz. The girls are being taken and either murdered or mutilated. One way or another, they are being turned into copies of her, and being sent out to retrieve remains and bring them back here. Most likely the girls get "taken apart" by the child psychopath and reassembled as Chaikas. Chaika seemed... suspiciously enthusiastic about them needing to get inside that fortress, despite not having cast any detection magic to find the remains or anything else. I think there are subconscious commands in her mind telling her to go to the fortress.

And yes, I do indeed think this show is that dark.

This was my impression too. If they were just being turned into soldiers, they wouldn't need only the young girls. However, most of the girls look way too old to be made into Chaikas though. Anyways, this episode was just AWESOME. So much tension.

Top Sergeant

2014-06-11, 22:31

Mr. Wizard is in for a surprise when he opens a door and finds a set of irritated dragon's jaws waiting for him. ;)

dark998

2014-06-11, 23:32

Compared to Abarth and Dominica which were pretty much alone, these new enemies are on another level: Gavarni with his dual blades, a skilled wizard with mind control and many strong knights, all packed inside a huge flying fortress. Plus the biggest surpise with the reveal of another Chaika, though this one has a different name and unlike Trabant and Bogdan, her speech is perfectly fine. Can't wait to see her looks without the robe.

Things are heating up with the other flying fortress coming closer and now Toru has to fight Akari for real too. Next Wednesday is so far away.

Benigmatica

2014-06-12, 01:56

Things are heating up with the other flying fortress coming closer and now Toru has to fight Akari for real too. Next Wednesday is so far away.

Yeah, same here... On the other hand, I wonder if Richard already dissected those village girls from Duke Garvarni's domain?

Arya

2014-06-12, 02:28

Finally an engaging episode and an engaging opponent who apparently is able to be a threat to Toru and the girls.
I have to agree the way Toru was tricked sounded dumb. I mean, he a saboteur and fell so easily. This together with the how-to-take-out-Frederica-from-the-picture of the week moment. She got pierced and thrown away :heh: I guess I can call her the biggest plot device I've seen as of late. If not the biggest the more blatant :D
The peak of the episode surely has been Akari being defeated and being threatened by that young sadistic prince. And she also got brainwashed. If this show had been less lighthearted I would have been worried for her. Still I look forward to see their fight.
I hoped that the other Chaika was the red Chaika, but nope.

Tenzen12

2014-06-12, 07:01

Dumb Toru and Chaika getting tricked.
Anyway, I think the girl in the hood is going to be another Chaika clone.
Anyway, looking forward to some Toru vs. Akari action next episode.

Well Chaika being dumb is nothing new, though one could argue she is just inexperienced. And Touru is not realy dumb, he only act like one cause he can't say no to Chaika (that's why I take disliking him a lot recently).

Guardian Enzo

2014-06-12, 07:20

Does anyone know if there's a reason the author is using car names for so many characters, or is it just a gag?

Ickarium

2014-06-12, 07:32

Probably a gag. Not the first time, after all. Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha is the same, really. Pretty much everyone except possibly Nanoha are based on vehicles. Testarossa. Yuuno (also used as Euno in official stuff) as in the Mazda Eunos. Teana (Nissan Teana). List goes on. :)

jeroz

2014-06-12, 07:41

probably the same reason why there are so many western music references as names in JJBA. Sometimes you just grab the names from the stuff you like.

ReaperxKingx

2014-06-12, 07:56

probably the same reason why there are so many western music references as names in JJBA. Sometimes you just grab the names from the stuff you like.

Yeah, it even extends even more than that. A dude I knew when to Japan said that westerner names and words are used only because they sound cool. I didn't believe him at first until he showed me a picture of him with a Japanese person wearing a shirt that says Ketchup.

Benigmatica

2014-06-12, 08:29

Does anyone know if there's a reason the author is using car names for so many characters, or is it just a gag?

Well, the author uses firearms as family names for his characters like Scrapped Princess.

Guardian Enzo

2014-06-12, 08:30

Yeah, never finished that one so I'd totally forgotten about that.

blakstealth

2014-06-12, 08:33

Yeah, it even extends even more than that. A dude I knew when to Japan said that westerner names and words are used only because they sound cool. I didn't believe him at first until he showed me a picture of him with a Japanese person wearing a shirt that says Ketchup.hahhahahahha

I also saw a shirt from Japan that said "STANDARD BLACK CAT" with a cat face on it.

zztop

2014-06-12, 10:06

Well, the author uses firearms as family names for his characters like Scrapped Princess.

Personally awaiting the arrival of Earl Lamborghini, Countess Ferrari and Lord Toyota to make an appearance in Chaika. :D

dark998

2014-06-12, 10:32

Well Chaika being dumb is nothing new, though one could argue she is just inexperienced. And Touru is not realy dumb, he only act like one cause he can't say no to Chaika (that's why I take disliking him a lot recently).

He can say no, like during their recon at Soara. Chaika wanted to storm the fortress right away but Toru said "nope".

Most of the time he does say yes because Chaika's sad puppy face is very hard to resist.

Tenzen12

2014-06-12, 10:46

that's not exactly "nope", it's just "wait a moment" and correct decission would be leave fake Chaika behind. Touru is paid to protect her life and help her collect parts not follow every whim of little princess.

And yeah, I am aware it's because her puppy eyes.

HandofFate

2014-06-12, 11:36

I must be dim, but what are the car names in Chaika? I don't know anything about cars lol.

Random Wanderer

2014-06-12, 11:53

I must be dim, but what are the car names in Chaika? I don't know anything about cars lol.

Acura, Trabant, Gaz, Bogdan/Bohdan just to name a few.

Preciize

2014-06-12, 14:21

Hate these cliffhangers, now I gotta wait till next week to see what happens. Don't like seeing Akari being controlled either :frustrated: Looking forward to seeing Toru give Ricardo and the wizard a beating.

Edit: Does anyone know how many LN volumes the anime will cover?

Cloudedmind

2014-06-12, 14:42

Preciize

2014-06-12, 15:07

All of them. The final LN, which I think is volume 10 will be released around the same time the anime concludes.

Well, yeah but that's including the second season (airing in the fall season IIRC). I'm wondering about just this first season.

speck123

2014-06-12, 15:19

Well, yeah but that's including the second season (airing in the fall season IIRC). I'm wondering about just this first season.

Probably ends at volume 6. Current episode is from volume 5, and both vol.5 and vol.6 look to be from the same arc.

Preciize

2014-06-12, 20:13

Probably ends at volume 6. Current episode is from volume 5, and both vol.5 and vol.6 look to be from the same arc.

Wow, so approximately 2 episodes per volume? No wonder people were saying this anime is being rushed :heh:

Iby

2014-06-13, 01:48

Yeah, it's "rushed novel adaptation season" apparently :heh:
Some tokuten goodness.
http://i.imgur.com/T5nTqDj.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/BWs8IcI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZeMXDCo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BANyjxz.jpg
Also illustrations by Namaniku for Radio episodes by Team Gillete and Team Chaika (http://hibiki-radio.jp/?radio_id=387):
http://i.imgur.com/zJ4b2vm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ptm1ITM.jpg

Preciize

2014-06-13, 10:30

dark998

2014-06-13, 22:59

Some tokuten goodness.
http://i.imgur.com/T5nTqDj.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/BWs8IcI.jpg

BD tokuten so good. Eagerly waiting for proper scans.

Guido

2014-06-14, 17:05

Episode 09.

Unlike the seventh episode, this one in particular was packed in character exposition focusing on Tooru's past.

What Chaika made clear to Tooru makes so much sense to me.

After listening to Tooru's sad tale of his past involving Hasumin, Chaika states that even painful memories are so dear and powerful.

Almost at the end of the episode, Tooru feels sad for Chaika when she replied to him she cannot choose which memories to sacrifice as magic fuel, then says in response that she should save only the beautiful memories.

These are just my personal statements, but memories whether be for better or worse play a track that measures what each person experiences and learns throughout his or her lifetime.
To me I could interpret what Chaika expressed on the value of memories that all memories amount for a person living a fullfilled life, regardless of good or bad.

Now, in anyway I am not demeriting about how Tooru felt upon recalling his sad memories. I believe his outlook is in part a response for the audience to take note that Tooru cannot completely let go off the past.

EroKing

2014-06-14, 22:49

http://i.imgur.com/kEA7EjSl.jpg (http://imgur.com/kEA7EjS)

Preciize

2014-06-14, 23:31

http://i.imgur.com/kEA7EjSl.jpg (http://imgur.com/kEA7EjS)

Someone mind telling me what it says? (if it's of any importance)

Mubyoshi

2014-06-15, 21:45

Just finished episode 10. Chaika's naivety is starting to piss me off.

Guido

2014-06-16, 01:25

At last, caught with all of you guys.

I fooled myself a little on whom was the identity of the third person in leagues with Gavarni and the Wizard, and everything pointed at that girl Layla. Furthermore, if my suspicions toward Layla will prove correct, then Chaika's going to experience a bit of a disturbing truth in the next episode, although she shouldn't be surprised.

Honestly, the fortress that requires a Gundo in order to fly something that was previously hinted at the beginning of the episode when Chaika replied to Tooru that she would need of a special type of Gundo in order for them to take to the skies.

I simply putting 2 and 2 together that Layla has the knowledge how to operate that thing.

Freeze the video at 19:57, and you'll see Layla is wearing some nice yellow on her fingernails.

HandofFate

2014-06-18, 14:58

Rofl @ ep11.
So we have our Chaika, Red Chaika, and now Slut Chaika.

Annoyed that Toru seemed to seriously think Akari betrayed them. Really? How many years have you been with her, no suspicious of mind control or anything. I know you can't use magic, but you know it and drugs exist.

I cracked up when Frederica appeared only to be removed from battle again right away by getting brainstabbed and carried away to get raped by that spider thing.

EroKing

2014-06-18, 15:05

http://i.imgur.com/vMhcazWl.jpg (http://imgur.com/vMhcazW)
Bloody hell...

http://i.imgur.com/htp7GJ1l.jpg (http://imgur.com/htp7GJ1)
WHAT THE HELL? Did they seriously kill her off just like that?

ChampDream

2014-06-18, 16:38

so this episode confirmed that there someone using the Chaikas.
The part with Frederica sure suprise me and it feel kinda of silly.

Random Wanderer

2014-06-18, 16:38

WHAT THE HELL? Did they seriously kill her off just like that?

Genre-savvy says no.

HandofFate

2014-06-18, 17:37

I call that in her human form, she hides her brain in a different location or something, lol.

HayashiTakara

2014-06-18, 19:22

*sigh, this series is starting to frustrate me with how stupid and slow the main characters are.

Flower

2014-06-18, 20:16

Poor Frederica... that seriously looked painful. (And from next ep's pv it looks like there are more of those spider thingees, not just one.)

Why do I have the feeling that Zita and Viva are going to get demolished by Akari?

Hafta admit I really feel kinda sorry for Blue Chaika... talk about living a life of despair. :(

I still want that wizard and the duke's son to get their just deserts, though.

All that being said... curses at the cliffhanger!

Master_Yoma

2014-06-18, 21:12

Things just got real and that kid just got way more creepier

Now there a blue one

Zangor17

2014-06-18, 21:49

doubt fredrica is dead she is their only way off the fortress unless i am missing something here.

Death Usagi

2014-06-18, 22:07

Where is Princess of Bondage Red Chaika when you need her?

blakstealth

2014-06-18, 22:16

How many stabs does it take to kill a dragoon?

dark998

2014-06-18, 23:40

Layla is much hotter than expected. And unlike Trabant and Bogdan apparently is not suited for direct combat because she relies on drugs (and femenine charm) to achieve her objectives. And all this also means that the very first scene way back to episode 1 was not original at all...well played, Bones.

Pretty hype episode in general with events happening on multiple fronts, really gives the feeling of reaching season climax. One more to go and Im almost sure the final episode will be even better than this one.

Benigmatica

2014-06-19, 01:19

Where is Princess of Bondage Red Chaika when you need her?

I think she's busy gathering remains somewhere... Too bad that she was not there in Soara.

Anyways, can't wait for the final episode before the second half airs in Fall. As for Frederica, it's sad to see her go... or is it?

AC-Phoenix

2014-06-19, 01:44

I have my doubts about Frederika's demise.
I'm more shocked that all the Hero's were beheading Chaika together instead of just one of them.
So yeah the real Chaika probably died at the age of 14, thats thats why all the other chaika's think they are 14 too.
So yeah the question now is whether they are all real(Like parts of the original ones personality) or all fake.

serenade_beta

2014-06-19, 01:45

If they are gonna use Frederica like this, they need to do that soon, that.
OH MY GOD, They killed Frederica!

Arya

2014-06-19, 02:28

mmm, a good episode overall, just ... if I'm used to Frederika being used in the most random ways, in this episode Toruu completely lacking of attachment toward Akari put me off. I mean, she has to really mean nothing to you if you are ready to dismiss her like that. But, oh well, character wise Gilette-sama and his crew are saving the show for me. Oh, and red Chaika obviously :D
And why does the blue Chaika speak normally? Did she gained it when she freed herself by the imposed duty or was a needed feature to be more alluring?

zero7090

2014-06-19, 05:35

holyshit, that scene shocked me even more than the red wedding.

Tenzen12

2014-06-19, 06:13

"How you could beyatray Chaika?" Is that realy question you should asking Touru? I know he is appearently obssesed with fragile loli, but I can't belive that after all these years he doesn't even realise who she actualy care about.:rolleyes:

Frederica getting promptly removed again, makes clear that author doesn't have clue what he should do with her.

Once again another not quite good episode. I have hard time belive it's written by same author as Scrapped Princess and Polyphonica (though It indeed looks like something written by author of Outbreak Company)

EDIT: I did not meant say that OC was bad, as it wasn't.

ReddyRedWolf

2014-06-19, 06:54

Guardian Enzo

2014-06-19, 07:08

Enjou-kosai Chaika is an interesting addition to the mix. I rather like the idea of an army of Chaikas all gifted with different manner of persuasive tools to gather the remains.

renuac

2014-06-19, 07:53

"How you could beyatray Chaika?
Frederica getting promptly removed again, makes clear that author doesn't have clue what he should do with her.

Once again another not quite good episode. I have hard time belive it's written by same author as Scrapped Princess and Polyphonica (though It indeed looks like something written by author of Outbreak Company)

EDIT: I did not meant say that OC was bad, as it wasn't.

Given that this is an anime adaptation and that we know things have been changed quite a bit from the novels, it seems unfair to blame the author. The scriptwriter(s) on the other hand...

For all that its episodes have been really uneven, I'm enjoying this series. It has a kind of earnest charm, much like Chaika herself.

Sayaka Rei

2014-06-19, 08:20

Wow, what a great episode! Surely the show went on darker colors ... the fights are well done ... considering the huge amount of material is not easy to adapt, I congratulate the scriptwriter, well done! ;)

Tenzen12

2014-06-19, 08:51

Given that this is an anime adaptation and that we know things have been changed quite a bit from the novels, it seems unfair to blame the author. The scriptwriter(s) on the other hand...

For all that its episodes have been really uneven, I'm enjoying this series. It has a kind of earnest charm, much like Chaika herself.

Some arcs were supposedly rushed, but in comparison StB or MS there is virtualy no complains about way it was adapted. No implication that characters was butchered or that Frederica actualy has actual role in novels.

But yeah, I agree scriptwriter didn't coped with it well either.

desrtsku

2014-06-19, 09:56

I'm not feeling very well. This episode made me feel really uncomfortable.

Dammit, why?

yulinard

2014-06-19, 10:18

Interesting the target is the capital. Layla is getting revenge on those that used her.

Could it be the one who is coordinating the Chaika's is some higher up or noble in the capital?

From what Layla said girls are turned to a Chaika. The difference in personalities could be a remnant of their original selves.

White Chaika is a mage, Red Chaika is a warrior, Blue Chaika is a seductress.The two former is embarrassed just by being exposed in their undies , Layla well she is a slut.

She just want to start a war. Maybe this author get influence from maoyuu when people who is not ready for end of war start stirring troubles.

I think there are two distinct Chaikas. Perfect Chaika with some kind of usb plug on her neck who wear rose like costume and failed Chaika like Vivi.

jhpace1

2014-06-19, 11:56

The "USB plug on her neck" is to allow Chaika to use her Gundo with her own thoughts and memories as the magic fuel. Doubtless you would find hundreds of people with similar cyborg implants in them from the long war.

I still don't know if "the Chaikas" are sleeper agents activated at the wizard king's death, or a last-minute program he initiated before his death. We have three - why not dozens? Strange that they would be "survival of the fittest", rather than working together to a common goal. All their goals are different.

Death Usagi

2014-06-19, 12:38

OH MY GOD, They killed Frederica!

You Bastards!

blakstealth

2014-06-19, 12:57

lol what is this

Random Wanderer

2014-06-19, 12:57

I have no clue where you're coming up with this. If it's from the novels, SHUT THE HELL UP AND RESPECT THE SPOILER POLICY. If not, it's a pretty bizarre claim.

Anh_Minh

2014-06-19, 15:52

The biggest surprise for me was Blue Chaika. I thought she'd be Yellow or Green.

I wonder if all the Chaikas are going to combine? And if the informer is Arthur Gaz, watching his daughters gather his real body?

HandofFate

2014-06-19, 18:13

Along with the emperor remains, wonder if each chaika also only has one real remain of chaika as well to fuel their body

like one is the head, one's an arm, and ones a leg.

dahak

2014-06-19, 18:17

I wonder if all the Chaikas are going to combine? And if the informer is Arthur Gaz, watching his daughters gather his real body?

I'm currently assuming he's the Dragoon that mind broke Layla. Not that that rules out him being Gaz.

Mubyoshi

2014-06-19, 19:07

Holy shit everyone in this show is starting to piss me off! I'm forcing myself to finish this now that I've already come along this far.

Chase

2014-06-19, 19:14

I love how Toru didn't recognize Akari was acting strange and just treats it as if she's just sided with the enemy.

sikvod00

2014-06-19, 19:44

^ That part actually annoyed me. Toru is generally quite competent, but his one-track mind can be off-putting and makes him appear crass at times.

NinjaRealist

2014-06-19, 22:54

So how many times does Frederica get dubiously killed off in this series? How many more times does it have to happen before it's considered a running gag?

dark998

2014-06-19, 23:04

I love how Toru didn't recognize Akari was acting strange and just treats it as if she's just sided with the enemy.

Remember that Toru is right into the heat of battle and has virtually no info about the enemies there to think "someone is controlling her through magic!", I don't think he has been exposed to that sort of skill before to figure it out easily. Zita could because she is a wizard as well.

dniv

2014-06-19, 23:05

Flower

2014-06-19, 23:20

So how many times does Frederica get dubiously killed off in this series? How many more times does it have to happen before it's considered a running gag?

I didn't think last week or this week was funny at all... I cringed both times. :(

You know though, I have been thinking more and more about Layla... it seems she was primarily given cunning and intelligence alongside the use of drugs/potions/pharmacuticals/etc. She strikes me as having a weak body (unlike Bogdan), and the use of sexuality for pursuing her goals makes for a consistent character sketch at least. But her keen intelligence allowed her to see around herself, as it were, and her "programming" to a degree. Once seen for someone with her level of smarts it cannot be unseen - I could easily see how that would birth despair and rage and a desire for revenge.

But looking back at earlier eps Toru seems to have good vibes with Bogdan. I wonder what will happen with Layla? Will she be slain as a "lost cause" (like the Duke's youngest son seems to me to be at the moment), or will she escape and run free like Bogdan did? Will she join Toru and co. like Frederica did, or just go off on her own without continuing to pursue the remains only to pop up later? Or something else?

Also, I wonder if Guy will do something next ep....

ReaperxKingx

2014-06-19, 23:21

So how many times does Frederica get dubiously killed off in this series? How many more times does it have to happen before it's considered a running gag?

Its probably done to ensure that the battles are more intense. Frederica is most likely the most powerful character present. Battles would be done before they even started if she was present so those quirks where she looks like she gets killed serves as a way of allowing battles to be more frantic and more action pack.

Albeit annoying ways, there should be better ways. You would expect a Dragoon who has numerous battles under her belt to have s sense of wariness, though it looks like it only serves of her being to confident and carefree thus allowing these moments.

Chase

2014-06-19, 23:24

Remember that Toru is right into the heat of battle and has virtually no info about the enemies there to think "someone is controlling her through magic!", I don't think he has been exposed to that sort of skill before to figure it out easily. Zita could because she is a wizard as well.
I know that he didn't have any info as far as that type of magic but he could reasonably conclude she wasn't herself. My problem is that he should have known SOMETHING was wrong with her based purely off the way she was acting. She's his sister, they are on a mission and she just all of a sudden wants to kill you? Come on now.

Random Wanderer

2014-06-19, 23:36

You know though, I have been thinking more and more about Layla... it seems she was primarily given cunning and intelligence alongside the use of drugs/potions/pharmacuticals/etc. She strikes me as having a weak body (unlike Bogdan), and the use of sexuality for pursuing her goals makes for a consistent character sketch at least. But her keen intelligence allowed her to see around herself, as it were, and her "programming" to a degree. Once seen for someone with her level of smarts it cannot be unseen - I could easily see how that would birth despair and rage and a desire for revenge.

But looking back at earlier eps Toru seems to have good vibes with Bogdan. I wonder what will happen with Layla? Will she be slain as a "lost cause" (like the Duke's youngest son seems to me to be at the moment), or will she escape and run free like Bogdan did? Will she join Toru and co. like Frederica did, or just go off on her own without continuing to pursue the remains only to pop up later? Or something else?

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j389/Madcat6204/hitsuginochaikaepisode11horror_zps254de4fb.png~ori ginal

She caused this. She not only knew what they were doing, she made it happen! She helped them!

She does not get to walk away. :mad:

Flower

2014-06-19, 23:49

No arguments or disagreements there Random Wanderer.

Still, something in me feels she is absolutely and utterly miserable inside. I am not excusing anything she was actively involved in. I still feel pity for her though - even how she looks and dresses so provacatively looks revolting in a way, and I feel like part of her knows it and feels trapped, imprisoned somehow, with no way out.

Well, I could be overthinking things here....

NinjaRealist

2014-06-20, 00:08

I didn't think last week or this week was funny at all... I cringed both times. :( .

I cringed the first time. The second time felt almost comical except for Chaika's reaction. Frederica pops up for like thirty seconds, says a line, and then gets stabbed in the head. It felt like a gag to me.

No arguments or disagreements there Random Wanderer.

Still, something in me feels she is absolutely and utterly miserable inside. I am not excusing anything she was actively involved in. I still feel pity for her though - even how she looks and dresses so provacatively looks revolting in a way, and I feel like part of her knows it and feels trapped, imprisoned somehow, with no way out.

Well, I could be overthinking things here....

I got the same feeling from her. She seems like a tortured soul who acts tougher than she is to hide it.

HandofFate

2014-06-20, 00:35

I already consider it a running gag for Frederica to get removed from battle since the 2nd time she just appeared out of nowhere and ended a battle, from there I was like "okay, from now on, they're going to have to make excuses to get rid of her" and they did.

Anyway, I love it, lol.

Tenzen12

2014-06-20, 00:54

I didn't think last week or this week was funny at all... I cringed both times. :(

You know though, I have been thinking more and more about Layla... it seems she was primarily given cunning and intelligence alongside the use of drugs/potions/pharmacuticals/etc. She strikes me as having a weak body (unlike Bogdan), and the use of sexuality for pursuing her goals makes for a consistent character sketch at least. But her keen intelligence allowed her to see around herself, as it were, and her "programming" to a degree. Once seen for someone with her level of smarts it cannot be unseen - I could easily see how that would birth despair and rage and a desire for revenge.

But looking back at earlier eps Toru seems to have good vibes with Bogdan. I wonder what will happen with Layla? Will she be slain as a "lost cause" (like the Duke's youngest son seems to me to be at the moment), or will she escape and run free like Bogdan did? Will she join Toru and co. like Frederica did, or just go off on her own without continuing to pursue the remains only to pop up later? Or something else?

Also, I wonder if Guy will do something next ep....

To be honest, I wonder if she acts out of free will even now. Even if it's for revenge she still collects remants, not mention her new path startded AFTER she was explicitly told about her past from that Chaika herder.

But I am inclined agree with her regarding to White Chaika and just assume her feelings for Touru are also only construct. Unfortunetely this kind of stuff are the end wave-handed as unimportant soure of temporary angst regardless.

Anh_Minh

2014-06-20, 01:24

I know that he didn't have any info as far as that type of magic but he could reasonably conclude she wasn't herself. My problem is that he should have known SOMETHING was wrong with her based purely off the way she was acting. She's his sister, they are on a mission and she just all of a sudden wants to kill you? Come on now.

I wonder if it isn't because saboteurs - even close friends and family - fighting on opposite sides was a common thing?

HandofFate

2014-06-20, 01:48

I wonder if it isn't because saboteurs - even close friends and family - fighting on opposite sides was a common thing?

I want to say that doesn't apply much here. In other organizations in other series, maybe.
But from the flashback we saw, the saboteurs shared a very tight tribal bond with eachother. Extending it to peddlers that frequent their town. They're not just empty mercenaries with money as their desire.

Toru even in this instance critized Akari for not acting in the proper saboteur way. (which I agree with others, Toru is being dumb here for seriously thinking Akari turned instead of some other outside influence, he's usually much more compliant on these matters)

Tenzen12

2014-06-20, 01:49

Akari and Touru was never in war, plus they work as tag team either you employ both of them or none.

Anh_Minh

2014-06-20, 01:50

I want to say that doesn't apply much here. In other organizations in other series, maybe.
But from the flashback we saw, the saboteurs shared a very tight tribal bond with eachother. Extending it to peddlers that frequent their town. They're not just empty mercenaries with money as their desire.

Toru even in this instance critized Akari for not acting in the proper saboteur way. (which I agree with others, Toru is being dumb here for seriously thinking Akari turned instead of some other outside influence, he's usually much more compliant on these matters)

He criticized her for betraying her master. That's what he couldn't get his mind around. But he didn't have a problem with her fighting him.

So if two saboteurs have opposing masters, even if they personally get along...

dahak

2014-06-21, 10:49

I wonder if it isn't because saboteurs - even close friends and family - fighting on opposite sides was a common thing?

I'm currently considering the thought that the Iron Blood transform might eat memories to fuel it.

Which would explain certain behavioural peculiarities including Toru reminding Akari they have a contract in case the transform had made her forget.

Hero of the day

2014-06-21, 12:01

Some awkward scenes but understandably the studio is rushing things so yeah... At least they made it up for the fight scenes. I can watch Tohru and Akari go at each other all day, though clearly Tohru is holding back. Akari bossing around big burly armored men is surprisingly appealing and screams gangsta.

articuzwolf

2014-06-21, 14:11

Random Wanderer

2014-06-21, 14:26

something is bothering me, isn't the Emperor Gaz's remains are magic fuels? not to mention a strong one as well
so why Chaika needs to buy magic fuel? just use the remains to fuel whenever she was in the pinch, at least momentarily

and about that flying castle, it uses remain as fuel and memories from the tortured girls.
So can I conclude that remain does not enough 'output' to fuel the flying castle by itself?
will the remnant run out of magic fuel if it keep being used (like a battery)?

Chaika isn't going to use her father's remains, because she believes she is gathering them to for an honorable burial. Not to mention that it probably takes some work to hook up an ordinary gundr like the car or her rifle to the remains, given the way magic fuel is usually packaged.

I'm sure the remains would be enough for the fortress. The thing is they seem to be explicitly gathering a lot more magic fuel than they should need. With that in mind, they also seem confident that they can defeat the other fortress that was created as a twin to the one they're using, even though their own fortress ended up failing during the war and being forced to make an emergency landing (suggesting the other fortress is even better than theirs); and also defeat the army that's being sent their way. I think they have something, some sort of superweapon probably, that they're stocking up magic fuel for.

Miraluka

2014-06-22, 23:17

http://i.imgur.com/2dcKOVZ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/MN7vu5z.gif

Iby

2014-06-23, 00:39

Two more dat asses characters by Namaniku ATK:
http://i.imgur.com/jGtTtP8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i1rOhpB.jpg

tsunade666

2014-06-23, 04:45

http://i.imgur.com/2dcKOVZ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/MN7vu5z.gif

lol. where did you even get this? people playing too much darksoul :heh: :heh:

Kyral

2014-06-23, 05:34

http://i.imgur.com/2dcKOVZ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/MN7vu5z.gif

Being Frederika is suffering. :heh:

Love it how Chaika always freaks out (playing Dragoon Souls). Another nice detail is that Frederika is in the Dragon's Covenant.

Death Usagi

2014-06-23, 09:05

http://i.imgur.com/2dcKOVZ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/MN7vu5z.gif

OMG They killed Frederika!! YOU BASTARDS!

Iby

2014-06-23, 11:53

dark998

2014-06-25, 12:54

ID555

2014-06-25, 13:32

Surprised they put some romantic development in there, when shows nowadays usually tease all the way till the end. Lots of teasers for future events too. Pretty good finale.

crimsonflair

2014-06-25, 13:56

What just happened to Vivi?

Key Board

2014-06-25, 14:05

my chestburster can't be this cute

wakbob

2014-06-25, 14:12

This episode was a masterpiece.
I've never seen a finale that amazing.

~snip snip~

Flower

2014-06-25, 14:17

Please do not ask questions for spoiling future events in the anime thread - do so in the light novel thread. It is tantamount to setting yourself and potentially someone else for an infraction and even temp bans.

That being said, I also thought it was a pretty good ending overall. Am looking forward to season two.

One thing I chuckled about were the rather anticlimactic battles. Akari walks into the control room. Thud. Over in two seconds. :heh:

EroKing

2014-06-25, 14:18

http://i.imgur.com/CPOfyUnl.jpg (http://imgur.com/CPOfyUn)
Hell yea! Best girl lives! Bring on season 2~! :D

Hiroi Sekai

2014-06-25, 14:25

Well then, it looks like:

Vivi's gonna have to convert to Schick or Philips. I told her to go with the rechargeable Gillette, but she went for the disposables.

Blanchimont

2014-06-25, 14:26

Vivi morphed into a Chaika?

Been a pleasant series, though a bit darker than anticipated. Will be nice seeing the cast's return in Fall.

Dop

2014-06-25, 14:26

One thing I chuckled about were the rather anticlimactic battles. Akari walks into the control room. Thud. Over in two seconds. :heh:

Yes, that was brilliant. If only she'd done that the first time!

Great way to end the season, looking forward to the next season as this has been a really enjoyable watch.

Mind you I'd be VERY surprised if Gillette is dead. Would seem a waste to kill him off at this point.

Breimoon

2014-06-25, 14:33

she seems to have turned in a Chaika?? Why? And i don't think i saw a scar on the nexk like other chaikas

Kaengel

2014-06-25, 14:38

Now we're talking about an interesting event. Gilette's death, if confirmed, at this point of the story is surprising but act as the trigger for Vivi's transformation into Chaika.
I'm ok with this. I want moar.

Do we have a date for the second season ?

Hiroi Sekai

2014-06-25, 14:40

Do we have a date for the second season ?
The ending card mentioned October 2014, so the Fall season.

Flower

2014-06-25, 14:40

All I saw was October of this year.

edit:ninja'd :/

@ breimoon... I am not 100% sure if Vivi turned into a Chaika per se, but the hair did go white like the MC Chaika.... and admittedly we know very little about the Chaika clones in general, so let's not rule out something like that as possible.

That being said, it is possible she turned into something else too (I did not get a close look).... Maybe more will be clearer in season 2, or the question could be asked in the novel thread.

deadlight

2014-06-25, 14:56

were there two "Guys" behind Gilette there during the attack?

DiabloCthulhu

2014-06-25, 14:58

Nah, Gilette isn't dead, there was a Guy (two copies of him, actually) behind him, and he most likely teleported Gilette somewhere.

ChampDream

2014-06-25, 15:00

amazing episode, I like the part with Toru and Chaika at the end.
I'm suprise to what happen to Gilette and Vivi's reaction, I really want to know what happen to her?
I really want to watch second season right now.

blakstealth

2014-06-25, 15:01

Why couldn't there have been development between Akari and Toru? I know it was obvious from many episodes ago how it was gonna be with him and Chaika, but goddammit lol.

Decent finale. Glad Fredrica's death was just some troll tactic, and I know for sure that Gilette is not out of the game. Those 2 Guys behind him doe

And I can't believe that Vivi was a Chaika...what can this mean?!?!

Random Wanderer

2014-06-25, 15:02

@ breimoon... I am not 100% sure if Vivi turned into a Chaika per se, but the hair did go white like the MC Chaika.... and admittedly we know very little about the Chaika clones in general, so let's not rule out something like that as possible.

Her eyes turned purple as well, just like every Chaika: a color that, to my knowledge, we haven't seen in anyone else.

I don't approve of this, by the way. I may have to rally a mob with torches and pitchforks to have a "talk" with the author. :mad:

HayashiTakara

2014-06-25, 15:19

So... Vivi is a Chaika clone too... er..... that's certainly left field. If they were trying to make the audience sympathetic towards Layla and the psychopath, they failed, there was nothing likeable about them.

So Toru is going to be a Dragoon Cavalier huh? Well that's an interesting twist. And man, the iron blood technique thing is so crappy, They've yet to show it being amazing, or any different from their normal self.

Shungin12

2014-06-25, 15:29

8/10 toru mostly likely will become dragoon Chevalier
Vivi is a chaika?
Gilette dead? i doubt it
Very happy to see Fredrica alive she is a beast
The most shock thing about this episode was Vivi possible being a chaika.
If i remember correctly in that ep. where toru was in that mist and got ntr. Maybe that's just a coincidence

askara

2014-06-25, 15:41

Gilette is obviously not dead, there is two of the informer guy(or was it him? how comes there is 2?) behind him.

but yea the anime must skipped tons of stuff i mean we still know nothing about phycho kid and Gado. it feel more like plot summary than adaptation of the LN but meh this happen to most LN anime for some reason. i mean whats the hurry?

HandofFate

2014-06-25, 15:58

Wow, lots of deaths, and also alot of hints of what's to come in the final episode.

Not sure about anyone else, but I was fine with the magic rifles, dragoons, I buy the body parts full of magical energy. But not a fan or accepting of the giant floating fortresses at all.
Anyway, other stuff in this arc.

lol @ Federica using an outer body. And she shows why she keeps getting killed off by destroying a whole pack of dog spiders with no contest.

Its been a while since Toru or Akari used the Iron Blood thing. But lol, very anti-climatic fights.
The Kid just walks into Toru's knife. Anyone else could have done this. And the other guy just has his brains smashed in one hit.

Big surprise @ ViVi turning Chaika O_o Wonder if there was any hints to her backstory that might have been cut of showing this possibility, since seems most of Gilette's unit is full of strays he's picked up along his journeys.

It was leading to it, but didn't expect Chaika + Toru to share a kiss (though an oxygen kiss)
They were lucky Akari didn't see them attempting to have a real kiss.

Blanchimont

2014-06-25, 16:12

Wow, lots of deaths, and also alot of hints of what's to come in the final episode...
You mean next season? As this was the last episode of this season...

Random Wanderer

2014-06-25, 16:25

Big surprise @ ViVi turning Chaika O_o Wonder if there was any hints to her backstory that might have been cut of showing this possibility, since seems most of Gilette's unit is full of strays he's picked up along his journeys.

I don't think it has anything to do with what she was before. After watching the previous episode and this one, I've been wondering if I might have had a fundamental misunderstanding of the Chaikas. Layla said she "awakened" as a Chaika one day. And now this... These may just be ordinary girls, transformed somehow into these corpse-collectors. But why, how, by what? There are still so many pieces of the puzzle missing, and I can't accept whoever or whatever this was doing this to Vivi. It's horrifying.

orion

2014-06-25, 16:31

I don't think it has anything to do with what she was before. After watching the previous episode and this one, I've been wondering if I might have had a fundamental misunderstanding of the Chaikas. Layla said she "awakened" as a Chaika one day. And now this... These may just be ordinary girls, transformed somehow into these corpse-collectors. But why, how, by what? There are still so many pieces of the puzzle missing, and I can't accept whoever or whatever this was doing this to Vivi. It's horrifying.

Maybe Vivi was a Chaika clone all along, a Chaika "mole". She was programmed to be on the other side to collect the remains. No rule states that Chaika couldn't be working on the side of the ruling party doing the same thing that the more visible Chiaka clones are doing.

When Gillette "disappeared", that was her signal to awaken and leave. If Gillette is not there, then that group won't be looking for Chaika clones anymore so she isn't needed anymore and can be sacrificed if she is not skillful enough to get out of there. Or ....maybe she was actually programmed to protect Gillette. Gillette could be a Gaz descendant, next in line or his clone.

White Chaika has 2 legs, 2 eyes and 1 hand so maybe there aren't too many parts of Emperor Gaz left and the controllers can go to phase 2. That means ditching the clones not needed like Vivi.

desrtsku

2014-06-25, 17:38

Dammit, I really have mixed feelings about that one scene. Alien used to be one of my favourite horror movies. Now, I can't look at it the same way ever again. Chibi Frederica too cute. Holy stool, she was.

That was a great watch, looking forward to the rest.

Chosen_Hero

2014-06-25, 18:19

Yet another dissapointing season finale (man, this anime season is shockful of them:(), I like the anime just fine and know there is still season 2 it's just, I don't know how to explain it but something feels off.

HandofFate

2014-06-25, 18:20

I wonder with Vivi turning Chaika, and the blue Chaika have any connection?
Like since this is written by the same author of Scrapped Princess.

All these girls have the latent potential to be Chaikas. But there can only be X number at the same time, so when blue Chaika died, it opened up a spot, and whoever got triggered next will take her spot.

zztop

2014-06-25, 18:23

1) It's interesting to think that just as there are multiple Chaikas, so too could multiple Guys exist.
Presuming the Guys saved Gilette, I wonder why save him. Guess we'll have to wait for Season 2.

2)I wonder if there ever was a real Vivi, or if Vivi was just a false persona for this new Chaika, which broke when she thought Gilette died.

Vaans

2014-06-25, 20:43

Good ending.

Ricardo is finally dead and so is Layla. Totally did not expect Viivi turning into Chaika. White hair, purple eyes, supposedly thick eyebrows. Yup, that's a sign over there.

Toru and Chaika kissed! Woohoo! Toru was going to kiss her again until Akari interrupted. I don't believe that Gilette is dead either. Because thats kinda cheap. Plus if he's really dead, where's his corpse? That laser attack isn't powerful enough to vaporize anyone as there were still corpses laying around. Must not forget about Frederica, I'm also glad that she's alive and okay.

I feel bad about those girls who where captive and carved. Not a single one was saved. Oh well...

Random Wanderer

2014-06-25, 20:49

Top Sergeant

2014-06-25, 20:53

I loved Akari's revenge, it was very much in line with her character.

No threats, no shouts, no monologue. Just hit him in the head with a hammer and be done. :)

bakato

2014-06-25, 20:59

she seems to have turned in a Chaika?? Why? And i don't think i saw a scar on the nexk like other chaikas

I don't know. That scene looked more like Allen Walker-style hair. You know where extreme psychological trauma turns hair white.

Gilette is obviously not dead, there is two of the informer guy(or was it him? how comes there is 2?) behind him.

but yea the anime must skipped tons of stuff i mean we still know nothing about phycho kid and Gado. it feel more like plot summary than adaptation of the LN but meh this happen to most LN anime for some reason. i mean whats the hurry?

That said I can't believe this would actually get a second season after all the content butchering.

Off to become a dragon cavalier? The most obvious foreshadowing I ever heard.

Random Wanderer

2014-06-25, 21:05

I don't know. That scene looked more like Allen Walker-style hair. You know where extreme psychological trauma turns hair white.

That won't turn your eyes purple at the same time, though. Also, speaking naturally, once hair has grown from the scalp a particular color, it stays that color (unless you dye it or whatever, of course). Even if all further hair that is grown would be white, hair already grown would not change color.

Master_Yoma

2014-06-25, 21:10

Wow Fredrica with a chestburster chibi of her self just creepy cute :heh:

7/10 waiting for season 2

videoman190

2014-06-25, 21:37

Didn't like they treat Fredrica like Kenny but at least she can regenerate. She has to live if she wants to fight Toru.

Hiss13

2014-06-25, 22:13

This has been mentioned already, but for you folks who are still wondering about Gillette's survival beyond just the "didn't find the body" trope, here's a screenshot for you to pay close attention to:

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j389/Madcat6204/HitsuginoChaikaepisode12Gilette_zpsdb5204a7.png~or iginal

I actually didn't notice this until I went to that scene a second time. That image was actually pretty creepy though.

So much just happened in this episode. Vivi became a Chaika out of rage. Gilette disappeared. Frederica got an even more chibi form.
The fact that Toru may become a Dragon Cavalier intrigues me.

I am assuming that the old man with the third eye in the promo picture for the second season is Emperor Gaz? :eyespin:

Personally, as someone who is coming into this as an anime-only person, I find this series to be pretty good as a stand-alone.

All of these disconnected thoughts. :heh:

Esclair

2014-06-25, 22:16

I actually didn't notice this until I went to that scene a second time. That image was actually pretty creepy though.

So much just happened in this episode. Vivi became a Chaika out of rage. Gilette disappeared. Frederica got an even more chibi form.
The fact that Toru may become a Dragon Cavalier intrigues me.

I am assuming that the old man with the third eye in the promo picture for the second season is Emperor Gaz? :eyespin:

Personally, as someone who is coming into this as an anime-only person, I find this series to be pretty good as a stand-alone.

Yeah, I think they did a good job for people who didn't read the LN's. With other other, it's very obvious when they omit stuff because things feel really rushed or details are missing which make you scratch your head. Chaika seems to have been rewritten in a way where the cut content isn't noticeable unless you already knew about it, and anything important is moved to other parts of the story that do get adapted.

Anyways, a fairly solid ending to the 3 episode arc and the mid season finale. Can't wait for CHAIKA CHAIKA!

Also:
http://i.imgur.com/xcGFYrs.jpg

Naotsugu

2014-06-25, 22:36

Was I the only one who thought that Ricardo was very much like Ryunosuke from Fate/Zero?

Iby

2014-06-25, 23:30

I've got the episode to novel volume comparison for those who interested (thankfully people started adding those for the novel adaptations on wiki):
1-2 - Vol.1
3-4 - Vol.2
5-6 - Vol.4
7 - Vol.3
8 - Original
9 - Original first half + second half based on a story from Vol.1
10 - Vol.5
11 - Vol.5 + Vol.6

9 is Vol. 5 afaik, minus the second flashback (from Vol. 1)

Well, you can edit the wikipedia entry (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A3%BA%E5%A7%AB%E3%81%AE%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%8 2%A4%E3%82%AB#.E5.90.84.E8.A9.B1.E3.83.AA.E3.82.B9 .E3.83.88) if you know better.

And...
12 - Vol.6
So, 1.5 episode for a volume? Great.

dark998

2014-06-25, 23:36

Great episode as expected. Liked a lot how each character in the main cast managed to solve their personal duels (Toru defeats Ricardo, Chaika knocks out Layla, Akari crushes Grad's head and Fredrika using her dragoon firepower to mow those spider monsters).

That scene where Chaika saves Toru, packed with kiss and almost another one, was pure gold. OTP was delivered so hard. And the anime is only halfway done.

Vivi's transformation was quite the twist, so far all the Chaikas were introduced as unique characters but was not expecting a known side cast member to become one as well. Gillette is most likely alive but I wonder if Layla survived too..off-screen death in anime usually is not definitive.

All in all very nice first half with likable cast, decent storyline and good action. October is so far away.

frodonk

2014-06-26, 02:09

"My greatest weakness is when my brain gets damaged, I can regenerate any damage to my body but not my brain."

gets stabbed in the brain..

"just kidding! I can totally have a chibi version of me burst out of my chest. I can't really die"

once again, why point out that the only way to kill a dragoon was to target it on the head, and when the enemy does exactly that, she survives?

but I did enjoy the ride, and I don't mind the s2 announcement. Now if only every other good series this season had an s2 too.. :D

Flower

2014-06-26, 02:11

Benigmatica

2014-06-26, 02:13

This has been mentioned already, but for you folks who are still wondering about Gillette's survival beyond just the "didn't find the body" trope, here's a screenshot for you to pay close attention to:

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j389/Madcat6204/HitsuginoChaikaepisode12Gilette_zpsdb5204a7.png~or iginal

I'm hinting that those Guy clones are turning Gillette-sama into one of them! I don't want that to happen...

Speaking of that episode, it's a surprise that Vivi is actually a Chaika clone! So I guess it's four Chaika clones appeared in the first half. Of course, make it three since Layla is dead.

I wonder if Emperor Arthur Gaz made eight Chaika clones? And also, I wonder if the emperor is responsible for making Guy clones scattered around the continent?

With that said, a great finale to the first half... I can't wait for the second this Fall!

Oh well, might as well watch Scrapped Princess for the time being.

Flower

2014-06-26, 02:15

You know we actually do not know if the Guy copies are "clones" per se, like the Chaikas, having physical bodies. For all we know they could be something else....

frodonk

2014-06-26, 02:15

she did say that she learned to do that after she was defeated, and I thought it was when those creepy crawly things stabbed her.

if it was before that then there's no issue and I stand corrected :D

dark998

2014-06-26, 02:19

Well, you can edit the wikipedia entry (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A3%BA%E5%A7%AB%E3%81%AE%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%8 2%A4%E3%82%AB#.E5.90.84.E8.A9.B1.E3.83.AA.E3.82.B9 .E3.83.88) if you know better.

I will once I read fully up to that point. That chinese site with translatable text is a godsend.

serenade_beta

2014-06-26, 04:51

In general, it was a good interesting RPG-fantasy-ish anime. Chaika was cute. The OP sucked.
As far as the last episode goes, everything just went way over too easily. The guy commanding the army just dies without really having a death scene. A hammer to the head. A stab. Gets slammed. Well, realistic in that sense. *shrug*
Then that pink girl suddenly turns into Chaika? :heh: Oh I get it, Chai(化)ka! :heh:
Though I doubt that guy is dead. No corpse always is suspicious.

The way the arc characters ended was unfortunate, but the most unfortunate thing is Frederica. Character setting is so powerful, she is such a plot device.
Oh, we don't want her to ruin the story, so let's kill her off.
But wait, she isn't dead because... *insert excuse*! And let's use her to get rid of those BETA things we introduced and had no real point to the story.
At least in the last arc, she "died" to go off-screen. The one with the red Chaika. She just... disappeared.
Now that I think about it, no closure to all of the dead girls from the city either.

So I guess 8/10? or 7/10?
Can't wait for Yellow, Green, and Rainbow Chaika in season 2.

Was I the only one who thought that Ricardo was very much like Ryunosuke from Fate/Zero?

Meh, lacked the impact.

askara

2014-06-26, 05:44

Originally Posted by frodonk View Post
"My greatest weakness is when my brain gets damaged, I can regenerate any damage to my body but not my brain."

gets stabbed in the brain..

"just kidding! I can totally have a chibi version of me burst out of my chest. I can't really die"

once again, why point out that the only way to kill a dragoon was to target it on the head, and when the enemy does exactly that, she survives?

but I did enjoy the ride, and I don't mind the s2 announcement. Now if only every other good series this season had an s2 too..

i think she mentioned she know her weakness so though up a way to counter this which is by using a Chibi version to control a normal body to conceal her weakness the brain

now that i think about it collect the parts like arms and leg is dandy and all but what will happen when Chaika collect the butt and penis? i mean its kinda vulgar

Breimoon

2014-06-26, 06:57

i think she mentioned she know her weakness so though up a way to counter this which is by using a Chibi version to control a normal body to conceal her weakness the brain

now that i think about it collect the parts like arms and leg is dandy and all but what will happen when Chaika collect the butt and penis? i mean its kinda vulgar

it will probably just be with the full torso with maybe just things like heart removed.

articuzwolf

2014-06-26, 07:23

never once I thought frederica was dead in the previous episode
never thought she'll come back smaller as well :heh:
TBH, I like that small form better...
considering she's mostly used as comic relief in the first place (and emergency transportation)

Avrorrange

2014-06-26, 07:54

Was I the only one who thought that Ricardo was very much like Ryunosuke from Fate/Zero?

Same thing popped up in my mind, especially with how he found himself getting opened up is the thing he has been looking for all the time.

Iby

2014-06-26, 08:56

The last ones from Namaniku:
http://i.imgur.com/HCZK8GH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BDnzhJv.jpg

BTW anyone saw that both girls are
nopan
in the art for a 2nd season (http://seventhstyle.com/2014/06/26/hitsugi-no-chaika-fiery-nopan-drama/)? ;)

HandofFate

2014-06-26, 09:00

Why did Chaika have to do the oxygen kiss to Toru when she could have did the Float spell underwater anyway and it had oxygen. Chaika such a sneaky girl stealing the first kiss like that lol.

Random Wanderer

2014-06-26, 10:50

Why did Chaika have to do the oxygen kiss to Toru when she could have did the Float spell underwater anyway and it had oxygen. Chaika such a sneaky girl stealing the first kiss like that lol.

She was forcing oxygen into his lungs. Same principle as when it's done during CPR. Just because she could create air around him doesn't mean he would necessarily be in a condition to breathe it.

"My greatest weakness is when my brain gets damaged, I can regenerate any damage to my body but not my brain."

gets stabbed in the brain..

"just kidding! I can totally have a chibi version of me burst out of my chest. I can't really die"

once again, why point out that the only way to kill a dragoon was to target it on the head, and when the enemy does exactly that, she survives?

That's because it wasn't her true brain. She had already created a second body inside the first for redundancy. Now, there was likely still a nerve cluster there, so it would have sent a significant shock through her, but since she kept her real brain secure inside her smaller body the damage wasn't lethal.

You know we actually do not know if the Guy copies are "clones" per se, like the Chaikas, having physical bodies. For all we know they could be something else....

Given that Guy has never been shown to have a physical presence, I suspect those are projections of some sort. In which case he, she, or it may be able to make as many at a time as he, she, or it wants.

EroKing

2014-06-26, 10:55

http://i.imgur.com/jwEPRFAl.jpg (http://imgur.com/jwEPRFA)

tsunade666

2014-06-26, 11:14

^where is ero/blue chaika?

woah! I just notice white chaika just forgot to wear her panties.

wakbob

2014-06-26, 11:44

Rainbow Chaika?
I wanna see that.
qq baka tsuki needs to translate it already

HandofFate

2014-06-26, 12:33

She was forcing oxygen into his lungs. Same principle as when it's done during CPR. Just because she could create air around him doesn't mean he would necessarily be in a condition to breathe it.

He was fully conscious, he didn't get knocked out, he just fell in the water.

Blanchimont

2014-06-26, 12:40

Going back to Vivi's transformation scene...

It's pretty obvious that the trigger for the transformation was the (perceived) loss of Gilbert. But is there more to it? In this thread there has been some theories that Vivi was a 'dormant' Chaika all along, to a new Chaika appearing every time one dies.
However... if we remember how Ricardo acted to bring out the full magic fuel potential out of those unfortunate girls, it might make more sense to think that the psychological trauma, in Vivi's case, was absolutely necessary to achieve the magic potential needed to serve as trigger.

I'm also reminded of something else in that train of thought. When Guy appeared and distracted Layla in the fortress earlier, the scene doesn't really make much sense. This is a guy who literally appears out of thin air to Chaika(s). And we can assume, based on Chaika, that happens a lot. There's really no reason for someone like Layla, who must have known of him, to be that surprised/perplexed, nor for such a length of time considering our Chaika was able to stage a counter-attack. But what if Layla had had a similar trigger for her 'awakening', and Guy reminded her of it? In a strange way, that would make sense.

We still don't know what the Chaikas are. We do know they are not the original daughter of Gaz at this point, at least not the physical part. We do know, thanks to this episode, that new Chaikas can emerge from girls, but we're not sure who the carriers are. Are there only designated girls with 'Chaika' dormant inside them, or are all girls susceptible to transformation? I suppose we will find out next season, hopefully...

Also, about emperor Gaz himself. Basic premise of this story seems to be that he's dead. But honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the author went for a twist in that regard. One such would be that he detached himself from his physical body at the time of his 'defeat', and spread his consciousness in whatever encompassing magic field there is in that world. And he needs the body parts to concentrate it again in order to 'resurrect' himself. So he uses avatar(s), Guy(s), to go around creating Chaikas to collect the aforementioned parts. (This scenario is pure guessing, of certain concepts encountered in Scrapped Princess, extrapolated over the world of Chaika.)

Random Wanderer

2014-06-26, 12:49

He was fully conscious, he didn't get knocked out, he just fell in the water.

He had multiple injuries, was sinking rather than swimming, and was not-responsive. She acted appropriately.

justsomeguy

2014-06-26, 13:26

The story's not over yet, so I can't say much, other than:
1) I hope Gillete's team gets more of a role in the second season, because thus far they haven't accomplished much.
2) This season's finale should have clear and lasting consequences in the world and storyline. After all, the dead include an entire region's worth of women, the ruling family of that region, a fortress's entire contingent of soldiers, and the fortress and army sent to stop them. It'll be very disappointing if all of this was ignored, and Layla didn't actually succeed in causing instability.
3) Despite the story elements being dark, the atmosphere of the show itself is rather sterile when it's not comedic. I'm not sure whether this is due to whatever content was cut out or to Toru's and Akari's blase attitudes, but there needs to be improvement on that front.

Score: 8/10, at 50% complete. Looking forward to the second season. The presentation needs some work, but the storyline is interesting (as dead evil wizards' gambits tend to be).

Anh_Minh

2014-06-26, 14:27

Is every girl a freaking Chaika? Will Akari turn into one (the better to seduce her brother)? Will Frederica? (A dragoon Chaika could get things done pretty quick, if she can stay on task.)

And if a Dragoon Cavalier gets dragoon powers, does a normal Cavalier get horse powers, and if so, what are they?

Flower

2014-06-26, 14:33

A horse is not a fayla, so no powers transfer as offered by the dragoon to the one who forms a contract with it, I would think.

As for everyone being a Chaika we have only had one "surprise transformation" per se. If others start happening (in s2) then I will wonder. But it is true that very little about the Chaika in general is known, even to the Chaika themselves....

Random Wanderer

2014-06-26, 14:33

The idea struck me last night that, given how that mysterious shape from Layla's memories looks like a dragoon, what if the Chaika transformation is some sort of dragoon contract, similar in some way to the dragoon cavalier contract? Except, presumably, non-consensual on the human's side. We really don't know much at all about what dragoons are capable of, or what their magic can actually do to a human.

Ickarium

2014-06-26, 16:15

My theory at this time is this. Gaz was allegedly hundreds of years old. If he, ah, 'sowed his royal oats' at the time, he could have hundreds or even thousands of descendents scattered about.

Basically Vivi's great great great great grandmother had sex with Gaz at one point, or such. And she's his descendent. Which, sadly for her, triggers some evil spell that turns her into a Chaika. Basically all of the Chaikas really ARE Gaz's descendents. Just ... not his actual daughter except metaphysically. And yeah, the transformation needs great despair of some sort.

Sageblink

2014-06-26, 16:22

So Vivi turned into a Chaika. Not cool but I was thinking something like that would happen once Layla revealed the truth. We had a focus on Vivi for 3 episodes.
Is it just a coincidence or each time a Chaika dies, another one is summoned ?

I've been thinking about it (yeah, sh*t happens sometimes)... When Crazy-kid told Layla that he couldn't become Emperor Gas at the end, I think he really meant it.
Like, maybe the gathering of the remains is to bring back the Emperor, but in a host (à la Chaika style).

It's really strange that the 3 Chaikas we encountered so far are always helped by 2 people.

Crazy idea : once all the remains are gathered, you have to kill one of your helpers to use black magic and bring Emperor Gas in the body of the other one. Toru... Be careful !
Oh, and Gilette, be careful too now that Vivika is in the place.

Crazy ending speculation : they will use this trick to actually free all the simili-Chaikas expect for one who will turned into THE Chaika, mostly the main one. They will bring back Chaika, not the Emperor.

Speculation ends here 'caused it's already too messed up. ;)

frubam

2014-06-26, 19:46

orion

2014-06-26, 20:51

Anyone think that Vivi is the 'true' Chaika, ie Emperor Gaz's daughter? Probably the best explanation right now considering she shares Chaika's characteristics, but no neck scar.

The end to the Tooru/Rich fight was rather anticlimatic. I mean, Tooru just stabbed him as if Rich just walked into it. Didn't feel much like a victory, but oh well =0\.

The series implied that the real Chaika got beheaded in Layla's flashback. That's the reason for the neck scar. We really haven't seen a full view of Vivi's neck. It's been covered iirc.

Vaans

2014-06-26, 21:15

I wonder how Toru would perform a contract with Frederica?

King Lycan

2014-06-26, 21:44

I wonder how Toru would perform a contract with Frederica?

My guess it'll be some kind of blood ritual.

MrTerrorist

2014-06-27, 04:08

What a good season finale.
Layla's group ended up being defeated by the people they messed with.
And the revelation that ViVi is a Chaika as well might bring more conflict with Toru's group.
Can't wait to see the other Eight Heroes and other Chaikas as well.

Myssa Rei

2014-06-27, 04:34

I wonder how Toru would perform a contract with Frederica?

Flashbacks of Zefiris and Shannon here. D-Knights again!

Tenzen12

2014-06-27, 05:24

My guess it'll be some kind of blood ritual.

My guess would be Mana transfer

Rogue66

2014-06-27, 05:54

Last episode was quite interesting, ViVi turning into Chaika after hearing Gillette is dead but not likely. Toru's mite become a Dragoon Cavalier. Am happy their a season 2 because if they had ended it here it would have been bad. In all enjoyable series cant wait for the next part.

ninryu

2014-06-28, 09:06

This anime is really good. Sure, it may not be as high-budget as Black Bullet or as heavy as Gokukoku no Brynhldr, but it is definitely my favorite for this season.

Chaos2Frozen

2014-06-28, 09:52

Oh god, Chibi-chest-bursting-Frederica has got to be the most "I've seen some shit...0_0" moments for me :twitch: :eyespin:

EDIT:

...Anybody got an Avatar gif for it :D ?

Hypernova

2014-06-28, 10:35

Oh god, Chibi-chest-bursting-Frederica has got to be the most "I've seen some shit...0_0" moments for me :twitch: :eyespin:

EDIT:

...Anybody got an Avatar gif for it :D ?
http://i.imgur.com/eMcgfc0.gif
Closest I found on the komica forum.

Damn scene deserves a spot on the weirdest-shit-ever list in anime history.

Chaos2Frozen

2014-06-28, 10:50

The best part was the screaming sound she made gasping for air lol :heh:

blakstealth

2014-06-28, 10:53

I honestly thought some weird alien bug creature was gonna come outta there...like Alien lol.

Proto

2014-06-28, 10:58

Flashbacks of Zefiris and Shannon here. D-Knights again!

Indeed. The entire series I've been thinking 'Scrapped Princess much?' to myself.

EroKing

2014-06-28, 11:14

http://i.imgur.com/bxAhWXc.gif http://i.imgur.com/Sh5TOdB.gif http://i.imgur.com/yAWbUN0.gif http://i.imgur.com/76x660r.gif http://i.imgur.com/tzys1C2.gif http://i.imgur.com/Uw4YkQh.gif http://i.imgur.com/QoAekYQ.gif

http://i.imgur.com/rEiXgx8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/rEiXgx8)

Top Sergeant

2014-06-28, 14:10

Chaos2Frozen

2014-06-28, 19:22

Kafriel

2014-06-29, 04:21

Finished watching 6~12 in one go. Final verdict:

1) The plot: the planet is plagued by the C-virus, a horrible disease that turns girls into Chaikas! Okay, the story is incomplete and it was an intended plot twist, but there are SO MANY holes...let's take it inversely...

Fredrica hid her true self around her abdomen, where she got stabbed through one episode ago, shouldn't her second body have died right around then?

Grad is the only mage on the fortress, but he controlled a freaking army of animated soldiers, homonculus monsters AND the bloody fortress!? Just how strong was he, who was that guy? He even made his own mind control magic...but I guess he was just a nobody, got offed by Akari in a few seconds and only played second fiddle to duke psycho killer.

Red Chaika and her group...how many remains have they gathered? Why didn't the two teams join together, since they have a common goal? (the two Chaikas fighting over Tohru doesn't cut it for me). What happened to them anyway, shouldn't a guy have told them about the fortress too?

In many battles, neither Tohru nor Akari used their iron blood skill despite having time to prepare beforehand...I know, it's wasted time, but still. Anyway, enough of that! Moving on~

2) Animation & design: no problems here, it was pretty good through the first cour, fluid motions and many ways to draw Chaika, lots of variety in town colors and article palette for the rest of the characters. The one character that I didn't like was Zita...iunno, she was just too flat and has stitches on her neck, it's just weird o_0

3) VA/Music/sfx: Don't like the OP, don't care about the ED, but at least the rest of the themes played were pretty good. Decent VA performances, though with little room for mistakes, considering how all of the characters are very limited. Which brings us to...

4) The characters!!! Probably the lowest point of the series: we have a couple of mercenaries helping an artificial existence carry out a programmed mission, an immortal monster who wants to die by their hands and a guild group that officially does...nothing. Who funds Konrad with all his failures!? The most interesting characters in the story are Arthur Gaz and the 8 "heroes". Unfortunately, they are all relics of the past, so there's little room to explore their characters...

Final score: 76/100. It was an entertaining first season, can't say I'm looking forward to the second one, but I'll try and remember to keep watching when it comes out.

Chaos2Frozen

2014-06-29, 04:37

Fredrica hid her true self around her abdomen, where she got stabbed through one episode ago, shouldn't her second body have died right around then?

Because it wasn't through her brain.

Grad is the only mage on the fortress, but he controlled a freaking army of animated soldiers, homonculus monsters AND the bloody fortress!? Just how strong was he, who was that guy? He even made his own mind control magic...but I guess he was just a nobody, got offed by Akari in a few seconds and only played second fiddle to duke psycho killer.

Well you know what they say about one trick ponies.

Red Chaika and her group...how many remains have they gathered? Why didn't the two teams join together, since they have a common goal? (the two Chaikas fighting over Tohru doesn't cut it for me). What happened to them anyway, shouldn't a guy have told them about the fortress too?

But she did offer to join up... At the expense of abandoning or killing White Chaika. Plus on the only similar goal they have is to gather the pieces, but it's clear Red Chaika has other plans after that.

Kafriel

2014-06-29, 05:00

Because it wasn't through her brain.
Oh, so she would have to get stabbed through the brain and through the chest at the same time in order to die? I guess that just makes her immortal...until someone dissects her vertically...unless she has another mini-me in one of her wrists, you never know :O

But she did offer to join up... At the expense of abandoning or killing White Chaika. Plus on the only similar goal they have is to gather the pieces, but it's clear Red Chaika has other plans after that.
We never got to know what the red group wanted to do though...anyway, I'll leave this one, assuming that guy is the one issuing the Gaz hunt - hopefully this will be explained in S2.

Well you know what they say about one trick ponies.

Yeah =/

Flower

2014-06-29, 05:08

She herself said that stabbing her through the brain (in particular near where her horn is in dragon form) is the way to kill her. After she was defeated by having exactly that done to her by Toru she developed the two layer system. She is a shapechanger, of course, so can do strange stuff like this (though prolly most viewers were not expecting the two layer thing, even if it makes sense in a way).

Essentially she IS overpowered. That's because she is a dragoon, who are the most powerful of the magic beasts in that setting. This was mentioned early on in the eps if I remember right.

****

The aim of the red group was to gather the remains and use them as tools to help Chaika Bogdan take revenge on those who fought against and those who deserted Emperor Gaz by killing them all in turn. Pretty straightforward. She wanted the others to help with that. Except Chaika Trabant - her she wanted dead.

****

I don't think there are many humans in the series that could take a direct hit from the warhammer to the skull and live - no matter how skilled a wizard is in mind control magic stuff like that is not much help against an angry, grudge-bearing trained killer smashing your head in with her weapon of choice. :\

Tenzen12

2014-06-29, 06:32

Oh, so she would have to get stabbed through the brain and through the chest at the same time in order to die? I guess that just makes her immortal...until someone dissects her vertically...unless she has another mini-me in one of her wrists, you never know :O

To be exact she has to be stabed through here brain IN her chest to die.

AC-Phoenix

2014-06-29, 06:44

lolzorz

2014-06-29, 07:00

As for Grad's apparently absurdly powerful mind control skills, I think a large part of it had to do with Layla's drugging abilities, which made people more susceptible to his magic.

Galacticichi

2014-06-29, 17:12

http://i.imgur.com/2dcKOVZ.gif
http://i.imgur.com/MN7vu5z.gif

I need more of these lol :hyper-^v^:

Flower

2014-06-29, 17:39

As for Grad's apparently absurdly powerful mind control skills, I think a large part of it had to do with Layla's drugging abilities, which made people more susceptible to his magic.

Hmm... for some reason I totally missed the connection of Layla's drug knowledge possibly contributing to Grad's mind control. It would certainly make a lot of sense....

dark998

2014-06-29, 21:05

http://i.imgur.com/rEiXgx8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/rEiXgx8)

Chaika's hair covering all the right places :).

jzmagic

2014-06-29, 21:44

Poor Akari, good thing she didn't see the kiss b/w her bro and Chaika

Iron Maw

2014-06-29, 21:52

Finally caught up and finished. Solid finale despite some hiccups (plot contrivances, Tohru acting OC, Tohru being handed the idiot ball, etc) especially after some pretty throw away episodes like 7 and 8. Still holds as one of my top 5 shows this season through it drop from its frontrunner status it once had. There is no question watch season 2, especially this setup

http://i.imgur.com/eMcgfc0.gif
Closest I found on the komica forum.

Damn scene deserves a spot on the weirdest-shit-ever list in anime history.

Oh god, that scene was so this:
http://www.nformant.net/whatdog.gif

Dragons are REALLLLLLY weird in this show. :eyespin:

The story's not over yet, so I can't say much, other than:
1) I hope Gillete's team gets more of a role in the second season, because thus far they haven't accomplished much.
2) This season's finale should have clear and lasting consequences in the world and storyline. After all, the dead include an entire region's worth of women, the ruling family of that region, a fortress's entire contingent of soldiers, and the fortress and army sent to stop them. It'll be very disappointing if all of this was ignored, and Layla didn't actually succeed in causing instability.

I think there will be some cracks for the shaky peace the world is in (especially with warmongering leaders like that fortress commander) but since most of major damage was averted and concentrated in one region, so I'm not expecting anything immediate. I think Vivi might play a part in that conflict somewhere though.

Shenlong

2014-06-30, 03:25

Finishing Chaika just made nostalgic for Scrapped Princess and curious if it'll hold up a decade later, and after rewatching the first ep.. yup.

MrTerrorist

2014-06-30, 03:57

I got a question. Why is Jasmine, Toru's older sister figure, was called Hasumin in the anime?

Nachtwandler

2014-06-30, 04:09

I got a question. Why is Jasmine, Toru's older sister figure, was called Hasumin in the anime?

It's Engrish, dude. But some resources just don't use logics.

MrTerrorist

2014-06-30, 05:56

It's Engrish, dude. But some resources just don't use logics.

Which was Engrish and a mistake? Jasmine or Hasumin?

ReddyRedWolf

2014-06-30, 09:12

Which was Engrish and a mistake? Jasmine or Hasumin?

Maybe they somehow read J as an H.

Note in Spanish Jesus is read as he-Sus.

WE won't know for sure if a LN translator doesn't elaborate the original material

tsunade666

2014-06-30, 09:49

Maybe they somehow read J as an H.

Note in Spanish Jesus is read as he-Sus.

WE won't know for sure if a LN translator doesn't elaborate the original material

This can't be confirmed because sometimes, Japanese translation for names just like to screw the western around. Trying to romanized some names into english just doesn't seem right when an official english name was released. Sometimes translators and readers just scratch their head on how it turn into like that.

The translation release for novel use Hasmine though the manga translation is Jasmine but just like what you explain. J can be read as H sometimes so not sure on what is the actual translation unless an official name was release in english.

OkamiNoKaze

2014-07-02, 01:15

Like others I love how short the fights against the kid and the mage were, especially the mage, a simple "thud"

dark998

2014-07-02, 12:35

http://i.imgur.com/rEiXgx8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/rEiXgx8)

Chaika's hair covering all the right places :).

Aw man, just noticed the image is not a proper full scan, a bit of the sides are missing. Also part of the bottom but that's water only so no big deal.

http://chaika-anime.jp/goods/img/contents/bluray-shop-image3.png

Flower

2014-07-04, 13:24

Licensed by Sentai: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-04/sentai-filmworks-licenses-chaika-the-coffin-princess-7-summer-anime-titles/.76300

Guido

2014-07-06, 16:02

I won't say good-bye to Chaika either, since the second season will come in autumn and there's still so much plot left to watch.

I do feel disappointed upon not reviewing the 11th episode due out of being overwhelmed for two weeks with laziness, and now the summer season has recently started. Fortunately, I managed to watch today the end of season for Chaika, and I have my thoughts for the episode.

Overall, I do feel terrible for the fate of all Chaikas, including Layla. I have this notion that each and every Chaika was created out of each of the original Chaikas' emotions. From Laylas' memories we got confirmation that the original Chaika got killed by the heroes.

Maybe I think more of the Chaikas on possible approaches on what route would the original Chaika have taken.
For example, the Red Chaika, Chaika Bohdan, feels revenge for Gaz's emperor death and wants to wreak retribution against the enemies who caused his death.

Our protagonist White Chaika, Chaika Trabant, only wants to gather the Emperor remains to give him a proper burial and feels no animosity whatsoever against the whole world.

Finally, Layla, the last Chaika introduced towards the end of this season. She learned the truth, and she swirled in rage for her entire existence to be used as a tool for a yet to be revealed party. She attempted to escape her fate at being Chaika, and exacted revenge upon the current world so as to throw into chaos the plans of the "Powers that Be".
Likely, Layla was the closest at escaping from the grasp and destiny confined by those "Powers to Be"

Nevertheless, I must also take into account that ultimately both the mission, emotions, and memories for all Chaikas are pre-programmed within them by those powers.
So, up to some extent Layla escaped their fate, yet she was bound by the inevitably of that fate at being a tool, and once being used then she'll get discarded.

Of course, I do not forget Guys' words from the eleventh episode that at times there can be irregulars. I can interpret that line that the Powers are in expectation that some of the Chaikas will break off from their programmed mission and treading a different path, which will likely throw into conflict with their plans.
This was plausible with Layla learning the truth, refusing to be Chaika anymore, realizing her own existence, and exacting her revenge.

Fortunately for those powers, the plan for Layla and his cohorts failed before could start a new war and put all the world into disarray. With Layla's threat over the Powers continue to surmise, supervising, and assessing the rest of the Chaikas carrying on their programmed missions.
This is what I interpret at the scene where regardless of learning the truth from Layla, White Chaika, is still determined to carry on with her mission and continues her quest for the remains along with Toru and Akari by her side, as Guy is seen from a distance teleporting.

Brother Coa

2014-07-10, 18:58

Just finished the show and I must say that at 50% complete it has done what every show should - it kept me interested and wanting for more.

Characters are still in developing phase and are interesting, Frederica and Chaika FTW!!!
The world they created for the show is awesome, I like the fuse of technology and magic.
Sure some things are rather... odd. And there are many plot holes ( but this is to be expected as show is only 50% done ).

All in all realistically 8/10 but for me it was more 9/10. Really good anime that is underrated :)

As for season 2... I am expecting to see Emperor Gaz resurrect when all his remain are in one place together. Then he will explain everything and show us how evil he is and all Chaikas will fight to kill him. Or maybe he was just misunderstood good guy, I don't know. But I know one thing - Chaika and her friends deserve to live in some village house, in peace at the end of the series ( Red Chaika as well, I really liked her even if she appeared only in like 2 episodes ).

Ickarium

2014-07-10, 19:09

I don't know what's going on. I do wonder about that dragon-esque figure that one of the Chaikas saw that talked to her, though. I'm wondering if Gaz had a pact with some sort of really, REALLY powerful dragoon, and that creature in the yandere way they seem to have (Frederica certainly acted like one) is acting to bring him back to life.

I'm also wondering if Gaz wasn't evil. Everyone insists he was, but we haven't seen the 'heroes' being too idealistic thus far. It could be bad propoganda. Who knows.

Brother Coa

2014-07-11, 02:42

I'm also wondering if Gaz wasn't evil. Everyone insists he was, but we haven't seen the 'heroes' being too idealistic thus far. It could be bad propaganda. Who knows.

Yeah, this bugs me as well, I mean the man was very anti-social ( even his subordinates doesn't know how he looked like ) and we only know that he lived much more than ordinary humans and that he gave the world technology it currently use.

But we also must take into account that everybody is blaming him for wars that were fought and were only finished when he was killed and his empire in ruins. I mean... he was one tough Emperor to beat, 6 nations had to unite to stop him.

But that war was most likely fought by allied nations themselves to gain control over his technology and magic fuel minds for themselves, as we have seen in the allied capital not everyone are pleased with current peace. And the last thing is about heroes, I agree that they are shady. Killing an evil emperor is one thing, killing his young daughter who may not have been evil at all is another.

Death Usagi

2014-07-11, 09:20

I feel like Gaz was envied by several countries that had corrupt intents where they teamed together to defeat Gaz. If he wasn't evil, I don't really think Chaika would want to give him a proper burial.

Tenzen12

2014-07-11, 12:36

Envy and jealousy IS NOT enough to unite six freaking countries in revolution against emperor. Unless there is oppression or poverty there are no revolutions and mere technology would not be enough to change this. Rome, Russia, France, Germany it's always same.

Only difference are movements for independence which might come from national sentiments, but these aren't agressive on it's own.

Secret of eternal or life might be strong reason enough, but I can't imagine anything else worthy enough.

Ickarium

2014-07-11, 21:42

*points Tenzen to the literary Trojan War or certain parts of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms* :) Wars started by jealousy and envy are a standard staple of certain types of epics, actually.

Brother Coa

2014-07-11, 21:48

Well this was anounced before but now it's offocial: Sentai Filmworks has acquired the licensing rights to Hitsugi no Chaika! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2014-07-11/sentai-filmworks-licenses-chaika-the-coffin-princess/.76528)

Myssa Rei

2014-07-12, 01:29

The huge cover-up seems genuinely skeevy though.

ninryu

2014-07-12, 07:35

Fuck, that was really good, there were a lot of twists I didn't expect. I consider this anime the great surprise of the season. Can't wait for the next season.

revive4563

2014-08-07, 10:43

I watched this in this whole week. I had no preliminary knowledge and no expectations but I like this.
After all, white Chaika makes you think that wants to protect her, even if it was her ability.
This is the plot.

...Oh, and Fredrica (Joker) was awesome character. I hope he become dragoon cavalier in season 2.

btw about subtitle, "Toru" is wrong...It was not an accent of Japanese name "Toru".
I don't know the spell but obviously it is an accent of western name. "Thor" or "Tor" maybe.

Brother Coa

2014-08-12, 16:08

After reading the manga as well and some addition info I have to ask: what is in fact the ultimate goal of Chaika collecting all of her father's remains?

My theory is that, judging from the explanation of that thing from the beginning of 1'st episode and the fact how Chaika as herself exists, when all of Gaz remains are grouped together, on a special place and when using right spell ( burial rites, that was so obvious ) - he could actually resurrect. Several Chaikas are probably created to collect all the remains, each one with her own purposes and tactics, guided by that mysterious Guy ( who may in fact be Gaz's loyal servant ).

The only question is: is he good or bad guy? If he is the men represented on photo for season 2 promotion I cannot say that he looks like a good guy. But than again he invented and gifted to the world the technology it currently posses. Some may say that even the wars that were fought were only fought so that everyone could loot and control his inventions. I also suspect the title that was given to 'heroes', giving how all of them had the guts to mercilessly kill little child ( manga version ). Yes, she is his daughter, but she is child nonetheless and a child who is was probably innocent of his 'crimes'. Can't agree to call people like that 'heroes at all', but history is written by victors in the end, even Gillette's people doubted the righteousness of their goal ( manga again, little present in anime as well ).

All in all, after watching anime twice and reading manga I cannot wait for season 2 start.