Mahou Sensou [Archive] - AnimeSuki Forum

shadow1296

2013-07-29, 18:47

this seriously went under the radar
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5549/esmf.jpg

Story Synopsis:
Synopsis
Nanase Takeshi is a normal high-school student with a slightly traumatic past. You could say he's hard-working but in reality, he really cares about what others think about him. For some reason, he is going out with his childhood friend, Isoshima Kurumi, but otherwise, he's a pretty normal guy. One day, however, he sees a girl wearing a uniform he had never seen before, who had collapsed on his school grounds. She is Aiba Mui and her appearance marks the beginning to a series of weird incidents. She once said, "to be honest, I'm a magic user and sorry... I turned you into one too."

its a light novel but i don't know how many volumes are out and the first chapter of the manga is scanlated

cloud04

2013-07-29, 18:49

vol 1 prologue was done by chinatown

im just a bit sad of the manga art on this one

shadow1296

2013-07-29, 20:35

vol 1 prologue was done by chinatown

im just a bit sad of the manga art on this one

yeah the manga art is slightly lacking and i checked the novel illustrations and they are very very good and not for fanservice reasons,

here's a few of them

http://s3.zerochan.net/Mahou.Sensou.240.1458350.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458350)http://s3.zerochan.net/Mahou.Sensou.240.1458347.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458347)http://s3.zerochan.net/Aiba.Mui.240.1458339.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458339)

cloud04

2013-07-29, 21:17

yea i know luna lia <3
kinda having a hard time to contact the tlor for the manga version LOL

cloud04

2013-07-29, 23:40

NGNL already has anime visual but seems Mahou Sensou so far listed

Bakaizer

2013-07-30, 00:27

looks great, i've ready the manga not yet the light novel though

and I heard there will be an anime adaptation, sweet :)

tm902541

2013-08-01, 01:11

yeah the manga art is slightly lacking and i checked the novel illustrations and they are very very good and not for fanservice reasons,

here's a few of them

http://s3.zerochan.net/Mahou.Sensou.240.1458350.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458350)http://s3.zerochan.net/Mahou.Sensou.240.1458347.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458347)http://s3.zerochan.net/Aiba.Mui.240.1458339.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458339)

It seems that you've read through Light Novel, questions about Mui

Mui is a Brocon?

shadow1296

2013-08-01, 02:14

It seems that you've read through Light Novel, questions about Mui

Mui is a Brocon?

how does me saying i checked out the novel illustrations translate into me actually reading the novel i just simply stated my opinion in art comparison, i wish i could read japanese but i can't so i'm in the same boat as you

cloud04

2013-08-01, 02:34

prologue is already done by chinatown just google it..i dont think mui is a brocon..probably just really concerned i guess?

cloud04

2013-10-10, 00:44

hmm ch 2 is..gonna take awhile before 3 onwards comes out

Amario

2013-10-10, 03:47

Very nice chapter especially with the sudden transfer and the childhood friend Kurumi entering the scene. All the more when they broke into Takeshi's house didn't she get taken but then appears at the academy?
Well it should be explained clearer in the next chapter what actually happened.

Saphirra

2013-10-10, 06:37

Uhm, heard about this novel sometime ago but never notice that the art is so wonderful, and after reading 2 chapters of the manga I see it has some potential. I'll tell more of my thought after reading vol 1 of the novel. XD

blackwhite67

2013-10-11, 16:30

finalfury

2013-10-11, 18:24

Please do not separate the two of them. I really like this pairing, but being a light novel = first girl trope most of the time so I'm worried.
Childhood friend is hitting all the right notes but the other girl is too. >.>

Ddraig

2013-10-11, 23:07

cloud04

2013-10-11, 23:10

^kurumi and MC arent really dating

Murakumo

2013-10-12, 02:03

somehow Kurumi rings all the "sleeper cell" alerts in my head after chapter 2

Amario

2013-10-12, 11:57

After reading the second chapter I cant help but thinking there might me NTR stuff happen later on after seeing the second girl appearance and her behavior have potential to piss off a lot of other guys already.

No. There is no "NTR" crap with this series. I have no idea why people start mentioning that abbreviation for some series. Honestly.
Her behavior to them won't matter much since Kurumi has transferred just like Takeshi to that magical academy.

cloud04

2013-10-12, 12:58

No. There is no "NTR" crap with this series. I have no idea why people start mentioning that abbreviation for some series. Honestly.
Her behavior to them won't matter much since Kurumi has transferred just like Takeshi to that magical academy.

all i see is kurumi fighting mio in the lines of "takeshi is mine"
No. There is no "NTR" crap with this series. I have no idea why people start mentioning that abbreviation for some series. Honestly.
Her behavior to them won't matter much since Kurumi has transferred just like Takeshi to that magical academy.

all i see is kurumi fighting mio in the lines of "takeshi is mine"
[images]https://www.dropbox.com/s/np1dvxof4tykxrt/img007.jpg[images]
since when does a harem become NTR..seriously ppl are too obsessed w/ the NTR crap

Bakaizer

2013-10-12, 20:27

How many chapters in the manga and volumes in the novel so far?

cloud04

2013-10-12, 20:58

How many chapters in the manga and volumes in the novel so far?

novel has 6
manga probably has uhh..5+
already ordered the tank but we gonna take our time scanlating it coz we using tanks ;p

Amario

2013-10-14, 04:06

novel has 6
manga probably has uhh..5+
already ordered the tank but we gonna take our time scanlating it coz we using tanks ;p

The manga version is Comic Alive right? in the last issues the series chapters were repeated.

And yes your right the novel is 6 volumes in. Kurumi illustrations are just awesome. xD

YagimotoKazuhiro

2013-10-14, 05:08

This plot is not bad actually.

The light novel art is pretty good too.

You guys should give it a read.

cloud04

2013-10-14, 10:08

This plot is not bad actually.

The light novel art is pretty good too.

You guys should give it a read.

not all can read light novels..hence why im working on the manga version instead ;p

cloud04

2013-10-15, 08:07

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1374950_523861517702446_2067356220_n.jpg
key visuals..it kinda looks weird to the eyes..esp the nose

blackwhite67

2013-10-15, 08:09

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1374950_523861517702446_2067356220_n.jpg
key visuals..it kinda looks weird to the eyes..esp the nose

Yeah. The nose is a little too curled, but everything else is good. So it passes the design test.

cloud04

2013-10-15, 08:15

its close to the original chara design so its fine for me as well..

Feng Lengshun

2013-11-20, 12:43

Even after I've read the manga, I still asks why is there Saber and Gilgamesh on the anime poster.

Still, it seems interesting alright. And if the illustrations I saw in the trailer, which are good in any case, is any indication, we seems to have one yandere and one psychopathic main character in here. Or at least a main character who likes to make a psychopathic grin. That's always a plus in my book. In addition, it became an anime in just six novels, that's something there, usually it's when it's 10+ or so volumes.

Definitely following.

blackwhite67

2013-12-07, 16:49

OP's out. Check it out here (http://llamaop.wordpress.com/). Unfortunately, I'm going to have to rate this as second rate.

zerodragon

2013-12-07, 17:08

OP's out. Check it out here (http://llamaop.wordpress.com/). Unfortunately, I'm going to have to rate this as second rate.

must say i am a little disappointed in this opening. it is too soft for me to like. why could it have a more action like strike the blood opening

blackwhite67

2013-12-07, 17:29

must say i am a little disappointed in this opening. it is too soft for me to like. why could it have a more action like strike the blood opening

I suppose we have the actual series to blame. When an OP is made or chosen, it usually reflects the rhythm and genre of the series. Strike the Blood was very action packed so its opening was fast-paced, but Mahou Sensou is, from what little I've seen of it, more dramatic and character development focused. All in all, this OP is very appropriate.

cloud04

2013-12-07, 17:31

we just have to wait for the series itself to show i guess
<btw TLor is MIA yet again so mahou sensou stalled

zerodragon

2013-12-07, 17:39

I suppose we have the actual series to blame. When an OP is made or chosen, it usually reflects the rhythm and genre of the series. Strike the Blood was very action packed so its opening was fast-paced, but Mahou Sensou is, from what little I've seen of it, more dramatic and character development focused. All in all, this OP is very appropriate.
you do have a point, although from what i have seen, i thought this series was of a similar line.:heh: oh well, we will just wait and see:D

we just have to wait for the series itself to show i guess
<btw TLor is MIA yet again so mahou sensou stalled

:confused:oh yeah, he was doing the Trans for LN. oh well, if people like the anime, someone may pick it up if he doesn't get back to it.

cloud04

2013-12-07, 17:41

you do have a point, although from what i have seen, i thought this series was of a similar line.:heh: oh well, we will just wait and see:D

:confused:oh yeah, he was doing the Trans for LN. oh well, if people like the anime, someone may pick it up if he doesn't get back to it.

ah the tlor i had for this is different from the one doing the LN but yea..that guy went MIA..so this series+dagasy+r-15+shurabara are stalled

Avaricia

2013-12-15, 14:14

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1374950_523861517702446_2067356220_n.jpg
key visuals..it kinda looks weird to the eyes..esp the nose

Chrome Shelled Regios :heh::heh::heh:

bastek66

2013-12-16, 00:23

I read some things about it... This is like typical action harem but only two girls plus Sunohara that is actually Gil but with fire powers?

Ougon

2014-01-10, 04:35

No. There is no "NTR" crap with this series. I have no idea why people start mentioning that abbreviation for some series. Honestly.
Her behavior to them won't matter much since Kurumi has transferred just like Takeshi to that magical academy.

all i see is kurumi fighting mio in the lines of "takeshi is mine"

all i see is kurumi fighting mio in the lines of "takeshi is mine"
[images]https://www.dropbox.com/s/np1dvxof4tykxrt/img007.jpg[images]
since when does a harem become NTR..seriously ppl are too obsessed w/ the NTR crap

Did you guys forget about the incident with Gekkou?

This does have ntr hints in it. (By NTR I mean MC going jelly over Kurumi.)

Avaricia

2014-01-10, 05:30

Is the lil bro also a magician or just your typical hater?

Ougon

2014-01-10, 05:55

BW95

2014-01-10, 06:35

He became a Magician after following Kurumi into the other world. Nanase Family (with the exception of Takeshi) is composed of A-*oles, specially the Mother and Gekkou. So much that you wanna rip him apart whenever he shows up.

Dammit so I was right.

I hear what happened between him and Gekkou. Can you just tell us with a simple yes or no if their feud ever gets resolved?

Ougon

2014-01-10, 06:53

Bi*chy whiner learned that Takeshi and Kurumi were going out, and as usual whined, got violent, and rampaged. In Vol 6 things got out of hand again, and he goes berserk due to jellyness and slashes Kurumi. Takeshi who watched Kurumi get killed before his very eyes, goes berserk himself. The volume ends with Kurumi (in the process of) dying and Mui lamenting at the hopelessness of the situation. After a while Mui attacks Gekkou and the Magicians from Trailers attack Takeshi. (Takeshi and Gekkou were still fighting while all of this was happening)

@GEMC

2014-01-10, 06:54

what of relationship does takeshi have with his mother and brother?

BW95

2014-01-10, 06:56

Bi*chy whiner learned that Takeshi and Kurumi were going out, and as usual whined got violent, and rampaged. In Vol 6 things get out of hand again, and he goes berserk due to jellyness and slashes Kurumi. Takeshi who watched Kurumi get killed before his very eyes, goes berserk himself. The volume ends with Kurumi (in the process of) dying and Mui lamenting at the hopelessness of the situation

You're telling me we got to deal with this motherf*cker for the next five volumes as well as the entirety of the anime? And he's not even dead yet?

Ougon

2014-01-10, 07:03

Scrawny little plonker wasn't all that important until Volume 5, that's where things with whiner escalated. The first 4 volumes were really good, all until volume 5 where that hateful little ^#&@%& appeared.

what of relationship does takeshi have with his mother and brother?

I think your familiar with the relationship between Tatsuya and his mother right? Takeshi and that failure of a mother have a relationship similar to theirs'.

BW95

2014-01-10, 07:10

Scrawny little plonker wasn't all that important until Volume 5, that's where things with whiner escalated. The first 4 volumes were really good, all until volume 5 where that hateful little ^#&@%& appeared.

I think your familiar with the relationship between Tatsuya and his mother right? Takeshi and that failure of a mother have a relationship similar to theirs'.

Oh so he doesn't become a magician until volume 5? Also, Takeshi doesn't let himself get pushed around by him does he?

araragi92

2014-01-10, 07:15

It's a harem genre or there are just 2 girls who like the MC?
I watched the first episode and it was pretty generic sure but still enjoyable.

Ougon

2014-01-10, 07:18

Oh so he doesn't become a magician until volume 5? Also, Takeshi doesn't let himself get pushed around by him does he?

He became a magician as soon as he arrived in the Ruined World, which was like in the beginning of the story. Plonker trashes Takeshi, and kidnaps Kurumi, leaving Takeshi (and readers) raging.

BW95

2014-01-10, 07:29

He became a magician as soon as he arrived in the Ruined World, which was like in the beginning of the story. Plonker trashes Takeshi, and kidnaps Kurumi, leaving Takeshi (and readers) raging.

At least Takeshi's got a legitimate excuse to kill him now. Kill the #$%^&* and get the girl. Everybody wins. I mean except the #$%^&*.

@GEMC

2014-01-10, 07:31

so kurumi is already dead after volume 6

araragi92

2014-01-10, 07:33

He became a magician as soon as he arrived in the Ruined World, which was like in the beginning of the story. Plonker trashes Takeshi, and kidnaps Kurumi, leaving Takeshi (and readers) raging.

This is why the NTR was created, it is supposed to make you rage.

Avaricia

2014-01-10, 08:30

He became a Magician after following Kurumi into the other world. Nanase Family (with the exception of Takeshi) is composed of A-*oles, specially the Mother and Gekkou. So much that you wanna rip him apart whenever he shows up.

What about the dad? I saw him talking about his dad on the 1st chapter of the manga

Bi*chy whiner learned that Takeshi and Kurumi were going out, and as usual whined, got violent, and rampaged. In Vol 6 things got out of hand again, and he goes berserk due to jellyness and slashes Kurumi. Takeshi who watched Kurumi get killed before his very eyes, goes berserk himself. The volume ends with Kurumi (in the process of) dying and Mui lamenting at the hopelessness of the situation. After a while Mui attacks Gekkou and the Magicians from Trailers attack Takeshi. (Takeshi and Gekkou were still fighting while all of this was happening)

Kurumi got the hots for Takeshi right? can't she just reject him directly... :3
I thought Kurumi hated all men apart from Takeshi... so how come she said she can just talk to Gekkou to make up with Takeshi on episode 1?

He became a magician as soon as he arrived in the Ruined World, which was like in the beginning of the story. Plonker trashes Takeshi, and kidnaps Kurumi, leaving Takeshi (and readers) raging.

Did he side with the ghost trailers? Also, what are his powers?

Kadi

2014-01-10, 08:42

This is why the NTR was created, it is supposed to make you rage.
Which is why I don't mind Gekkou too much. He's made to be hated, so I hate him. I just have problems with the other characters... and the writing in general, really. It's like... the "building blocks" for an awesome story are there, but the author failed to put them together properly and much of it comes crashing down, with only a few admittedly awesome moments every now and then. Some of the "building blocks" chosen were busts, too, but let's not go there. A shame, really, since I want to like this. If the writing were good, Kurumi could have become one of my favorite characters of all time.

Ougon

2014-01-10, 08:45

so kurumi is already dead after volume 6

Not clear yet. We have to wait till Volume 7 to find out.

What about the dad? I saw him talking about his dad on the 1st chapter of the manga

Kurumi got the hots for Takeshi right? can't she just reject him directly... :3

He is indifferent towards his son too. Though not as much his failure mother.

She is in crazy love with him, to the point of being obsessed. She flat out rejected and trampled over whiner after becoming aware of his feelings towards her, fueling his rage towards Takeshi.

PS: Takeshi loves Kurumi too.

BW95

2014-01-10, 08:58

Not clear yet. We have to wait till Volume 7 to find out.

He is indifferent towards his son too. Though not as much his failure mother.

She is in crazy love with him, to the point of being obsessed. She flat out rejected and trampled over whiner after becoming aware of his feelings towards her, fueling his rage towards Takeshi.

PS: Takeshi loves Kurumi too.

Men besides Takeshi should go extinct.

Winning line.

What about Aiba?

@GEMC

2014-01-10, 09:07

Takesha will definitely cut that tr*sh to pieces and his mother should just go hell she has no right to be Takeshi's mother

P.S I really love Takeshi's Badass(Psycho) Face :o :o :o

Johnny

2014-01-10, 09:27

Has it been said what happened two years ago between the brothers i.e going by what manga stated, or has the family's shitty indifference always been this way...?

Ougon

2014-01-10, 11:43

Winning line.

What about Aiba?

She fell in love with him, and feels jealous over his feelings for Kurumi.

Has it been said what happened two years ago between the brothers i.e going by what manga stated, or has the family's shitty indifference always been this way...?

Little whiner went bonkers when he learned about Kurumi and Takeshi, things got violent between him and Takeshi, and he got himself into an accident, after which Nanase family became indifferent towards Takeshi.

Noble101

2014-01-10, 12:31

If they have feelings for each other, why are they fake dating?

Kadi

2014-01-10, 12:42

waffler

2014-01-10, 12:43

Wait whaaaat theres ntr in here?!?! O:<

Avaricia

2014-01-10, 13:00

Not clear yet. We have to wait till Volume 7 to find out.

He is indifferent towards his son too. Though not as much his failure mother.

Better than Tatsuya's dad

She is in crazy love with him, to the point of being obsessed. She flat out rejected and trampled over whiner after becoming aware of his feelings towards her, fueling his rage towards Takeshi.

PS: Takeshi loves Kurumi too.

Hilarious!

Ougon

2014-01-10, 13:26

Takeshi's awareness of his own feelings for Kurumi is vague at best... then there's the fact that he systematically broke his own backbone and... character to bear his family situation, if you view him favorably.

By volume 6, he is pretty much aware that he is in love with her.

If they have feelings for each other, why are they fake dating?

Takeshi was too late in becoming aware of his feelings, and after he did, they just didn't have any chance because of all the hectic things going on.

Wait whaaaat theres ntr in here?!?! O:<

Not exactly NTR, but just some elements of it. Read all the other spoilers for further clarification.

Kadi

2014-01-10, 15:49

Oh. Guess I should continue reading them. Got stuck at the beginning of V5 because of... , considering Takeshi's attitude towards a certain ... development then. You can probably guess which one.

ghost013

2014-01-10, 17:44

Saw the first episode of the anime and read through the thread, got a couple of questions

So first things first...

So all Gekkou does is kidnap Kurumi. So how is that NTR and why are people so mad?

Just to clarify, Kurumi & Takashi definitely like each other. Mui likes Takashi and Kazumi is just there? Does he play any role at all? Also does Kurumi ever find out about Mui and Takeshi's kiss?

Kleeyook

2014-01-10, 17:55

So all Gekkou does is kidnap Kurumi. So how is that NTR and why are people so mad?

Can't be helped. The so called NTR has existed in any media since we exist but we didn't care much. It's because the Japanese otaku community promoted NTR in so many doujin and VN that it became a huge genre that whenever people heard about another guy trying to steal the MC's girl, they'll rage... We became so sick of it and people who like it are either too open-minded or assholes.

Considering that whenever I visited sankaku where there are articles about NTR, everyone there saying it's hot. No one bothers to mention something about the husband being cheated. This NTR-business simply makes normal people rage just by being mentioned, and people I don't want to know getting an erection...

BW95

2014-01-10, 17:56

Saw the first episode of the anime and read through the thread, got a couple of questions

So first things first...

So all Gekkou does is kidnap Kurumi. So how is that NTR and why are people so mad?

Look, a lot of people don't actually use the technical definition of NTR. When we say NTR, we are using it in a broader sense to refer to any event that evokes a female possessiveness in us/males. In short, anything like a girl being taken away by some guy other than her one true pairing.

waffler

2014-01-10, 18:13

loool when people said ntr i was assuming that gekkou kiss or rapes kurumi or something but all he does was kidnap her? how is that ntr? o.o

ghost013

2014-01-10, 18:13

AAAhhhh, I see.

finalfury

2014-01-10, 18:25

Author is a sadist confirmed. :heh:

Thank heavens my belief about the MC turned out to be accurate.

The story doesn't seem that horrible compared to how the anime introduced it tbh. :x

ZodiacBeast

2014-01-10, 19:22

So when does the next volume come out? I want to know what happens to Kurumi.

I've just watched the first episode and I'm seriously thinking about reading in minute detail the LNs to see what's different.

EDIT: Oops, forgot to check if it was being translated or not. So far it appears that Baka-Tsuki is just getting started. Oh well.

Kadi

2014-01-10, 20:28

I don't expect the translation on BT to continue any time soon... not unless there's a new translator.

ZodiacBeast

2014-01-10, 20:41

I don't expect the translation on BT to continue any time soon... not unless there's a new translator.

...damn.

It appears that (due to my limited command of the Japanese language and Amazon's Japanese page) that the next book comes out tomorrow. Hopefully somebody will read it sooner than later and hook us up with some info.

cloud04

2014-01-10, 20:50

wait there's a BT for this?i only know prologue was done by chinatown

@GEMC

2014-01-11, 00:19

Does takeshi only has evasive magic

Ougon

2014-01-11, 04:56

Yeah, that's the only one. Though he has a magical sword called Twilight, which is one of the best magical swords out there.

There have been few other hints, that there may be more to Takeshi than meets the eye, which was kinda confirmed in vol 4, where Violet learned "something" about Takeshi.

@GEMC

2014-01-11, 05:03

does his brother use a sword too

cloud04

2014-01-11, 05:38

pretty much bro vs bro

Ougon

2014-01-11, 06:08

does his brother use a sword too

Yeah. Whiner has an attack type magic called "angel hunt".

pretty much bro vs bro

Hmm, what do you mean?

cloud04

2014-01-11, 06:10

Yeah. Whiner has an attack type magic called "angel hunt".

Hmm, what do you mean?

? his brother is also a magician.. and w/ the ghost trailer too

Ougon

2014-01-11, 06:12

? his brother is also a magician.. and w/ the ghost trailer too

I thought you were talking about the entire the story being just about one brother vs another one.

@GEMC

2014-01-11, 06:41

what level does takeshi has in terms of swordmanship

Avrorrange

2014-01-11, 07:23

Did the scumbag little brother take Twilight from the MC? He said he wants to have it in the early parts of vol 5.I still don't know what happens at the end of vol 5 or the entirety of vol 4 since the Chinese translation team has subbed only parts of vol 5 and skipped vol 4 entirely.

Ougon

2014-01-11, 08:37

Avrorrange

2014-01-11, 08:55

Little trap stole it, and even remodeled it to his own magic which allows him to move and attack at massive speeds.

I hope the scumbag dies.

Ophis

2014-01-11, 09:02

wow, the guy kidnapped his brother's girl and even stole his sword? :upset: Fuck this guy man. What is he going to steal next? Takeshi's underwear??:frustrated:

Avrorrange

2014-01-11, 09:54

wow, the guy kidnapped his brother's girl and even stole his sword? :upset: Fuck this guy man. What is he going to steal next? Takeshi's underwear??:frustrated:

I don't know about Kurumi,but Gekkou definitely NTRed Takeshi with his sword lol!

Avaricia

2014-01-11, 12:05

Flame Blonde dude anime original character?... If not, mind spoiling me his role?

BW95

2014-01-11, 12:07

Flame Blonde dude anime original character?... If not, mind spoiling me his role?

Yeah. Where is this guy on the romantic radar?

Ophis

2014-01-11, 20:15

I don't know about Kurumi,but Gekkou definitely NTRed Takeshi with his sword lol!

F*ck, the only thing I despise more than having the MC's girl stolen, is having the MC's weapon stolen, it's just sad. :sad:
How did Gekkou stole Takeshi's sword? Did he beat him?

BW95

2014-01-11, 20:26

F*ck, the only thing I despise more than having the MC's girl stolen, is having the MC's weapon stolen, it's just sad. :sad:
How did Gekkou stole Takeshi's sword? Did he beat him?

I agree. Author's clearly setting this f*cker up to get owned by Takeshi's hidden power.

How hard could it have been to steal it? It's easy to steal something if the owner doesn't know someone's going to try.

Johnny

2014-01-11, 21:13

Flame Blonde dude anime original character?... If not, mind spoiling me his role?

Yeah. Where is this guy on the romantic radar?
Yeah, this. After the first episode/chapter it seemed it would be heading in the Takeshi/Mui route and Kazumi would be the free agent for Kurumi...

Frozt

2014-01-11, 21:17

Yeah, this. After the first episode/chapter it seemed it would be heading in the Takeshi/Mui route and Kazumi would be the free agent for Kurumi...

Actually, it's been confirmed that Takeshi loves Kurumi and for Mui and Takeshi to be a couple after the latest volume, Kurumi has to die..
I don't read the series because of its story, but I do like reading its summaries.

BW95

2014-01-11, 21:20

Mui like Takeshi, but he knows he's got the hots for Kurumi.

Asahi

2014-01-12, 02:00

Actually, it's been confirmed that Takeshi loves Kurumi and for Mui and Takeshi to be a couple after the latest volume, Kurumi has to die..
I don't read the series because of its story, but I do like reading its summaries.

How was it confirmed he loves Kurumi though? I browsed through the latest volume and didn't see anywhere that said so. At the end of the volume, he just sorta showed some jealousy when some dude calling her by her first name or something...

Avrorrange

2014-01-15, 04:07

Just finished reading the first chapter of the fifth volume. Is Takeshi's father really his father? Given that his mother was the lover of the original wielder of twilight around sixteen years ago, it wouldn't have been surprising if he was actually Takeshi's real father. That would explain why Takeshi's 'father' was so cold to him, not to mention why the English teacher commented that the wielder of Twilight is just like his "father" a number of volumes ago.

@GEMC

2014-01-15, 05:45

What is takeshi's mother involvement in the magic world and what is his mother reaction after she learned that takeshi acquired the twilight

Avrorrange

2014-01-15, 06:17

What is takeshi's mother involvement in the magic world and what is his mother reaction after she learned that takeshi acquired the twilight

As far as I know,Takeshi's mother was one of the "Fifteen great Magicians" who divided the world into two. She was an Evasion Magic? instructor at the precursor of what later became the Academy.She was also the teacher of the founder of Trailer. During the war, she 'seduced' one of her students,the best friend of the founder of Trailer, and had him switch sides to Wizards Bless.She lost her magic after the war.

@GEMC

2014-01-15, 07:13

did she know takeshi is in the Academy?
what is the background of the original wielder of twilight?
how powerful was the twilight?

Avrorrange

2014-01-15, 07:20

did she know takeshi is in the Academy?
what is the background of the original wielder of twilight?
how powerful was the twilight?

She knows Takeshi's in the Academy. She even sends him his uniform. I won't describe how powerful twilight is. I can't remember it!:p Takeshi's mother was the previous wielder of Twilight. It's been implied that the student she seduced either created Twilight's enchantment or was the original wielder. He was one of the two best friends of the leader of Trailer, and was implied to be one of its original members. Takeshi's mother apparently seduced him and had him switched sides. He either gave Twilight to Takeshi's mother or at the very least created the enchantment on Twilight as a symbol of his love. He was killed during the war by his best friend when he blocked an attack meant for Takeshi's mother. The leaders of Trailer hates Takeshi's mother as a result of that incident.They blame her for the death of their friend.Incidentally, it all happened sixteen years ago, which is why I think that student may actually be Takeshi's real father. Back then, Takeshi's mother was also using her maiden name, and was implied not to be married.

cloud04

2014-01-15, 07:21

uhh wait..if takeshi is the child of both mother and real father..why the hell would the mom be bi*chy w/ him?

Avrorrange

2014-01-15, 07:34

uhh wait..if takeshi is the child of both mother and real father..why the hell would the mom be bi*chy w/ him?

That's just my speculation. Current facts point to the conclusion that the salary man Takeshi calls his father might not be his. At one point, the Trailer member who infiltrated the school as an English teacher also mentioned the phrase "like father like son" in reference to Takeshi(it may be a translation error but it clearly implies a lot).About his mom's relationship with him,I think she's up to something. In volume 2, it's been revealed that she's perfectly aware that Gekkou's an annoying brat while she regards Takeshi as a kind young man. She's glad that Takeshi's gone because the brothers might erupt into a massive fight. At the same time,she also cries at one point when she thinks about Takeshi, lamenting the fact that she has distanced herself from him. Another speculation about why Takeshi's mother doesn't prefer him may be what Trailer's deputy leader suggested:Takeshi's mother didn't really fell in love with her student but merely used him.

Avrorrange

2014-01-15, 07:38

Wut? I thought Takeshi's mother despises him?...

Like I said, she breaks down at one point during volume 2, and even cried on his uniform--before sending it to him.

@GEMC

2014-01-15, 08:09

how many student are there in Academy?

Ougon

2014-01-15, 09:58

She even trained Takeshi, and they kinda reconciled, but she is still all Gekkou..

It seems Takeshi and Gekkou has gone MIA (declared dead by most), and Kurumi survived!

BW95

2014-01-15, 10:03

She even trained Takeshi, and they kinda reconciled, but she is still all Gekkou..

It seems Takeshi and Gekkou has gone MIA (declared dead by most), and Kurumi survived!

Wait a minute. What do you mean she's all Gekkou and is he Takeshi's full brother?

vanca

2014-01-15, 12:22

It seems Takeshi and Gekkou has gone MIA (declared dead by most), and Kurumi survived!

Oh blessed the writer! Thanks for the info. Haven't had the chance to read the LN, but after watch eps 1 anime and then read few chapters of manga, I'm fond of Kurumi. I already find her interesting and somewhat feels that she's actually much deeper than her initial impression seemed to be, even before I read some info/spoilers about her back story and relationship with other characters. That's why I'm also worried when I knew about her situation at the end of vol. 6.

One question I'm curious. How close Kurumi with Oigami Takao, really? Quite numbers of readers apparently like their interactions too. At least it's more popular compared to Gekkou and Kurumi.

Avrorrange

2014-01-15, 20:20

She even trained Takeshi, and they kinda reconciled, but she is still all Gekkou..

It seems Takeshi and Gekkou has gone MIA (declared dead by most), and Kurumi survived!

Whiner's definitely not dead then. Too bad.

BW95

2014-01-15, 20:57

Avrorrange

2014-01-16, 01:21

@Ougon no Kemono, from what you've read of the novels, is it possible for the anime to get back on track plot-wise? They may have screwed up the beginning, but can they still follow the novel or have they deviated too much?

If they don't screw up the rest.

ReinZwei

2014-01-16, 01:22

cloud04

2014-01-16, 01:41

1st epi was so different already

Ougon

2014-01-16, 03:23

Wait a minute. What do you mean she's all Gekkou and is he Takeshi's full brother?

She still prefers little tard despite knowing his flaws. Yes, as things stand now, it would be more correct to say that he is his brother, than saying that he is not.

One question I'm curious. How close Kurumi with Oigami Takao, really? Quite numbers of readers apparently like their interactions too. At least it's more popular compared to Gekkou and Kurumi.

Like their interactions??? It's other way around.

Kurumi hates him, and all the other men with the exception of Takeshi. Whenever he comes around he just pisses readers and Takeshi off.

@Ougon no Kemono, from what you've read of the novels, is it possible for the anime to get back on track plot-wise? They may have screwed up the beginning, but can they still follow the novel or have they deviated too much?

They probably won't get back on track, seeing as they screwed with the anime from get-go. I think they are trying to match it to the fantasies of the 3rd graders.

The outline they are using is still the same though.

Avrorrange

2014-01-16, 03:46

@Ougon no Kemono, given you have read ahead, do you think that Takeshi's actually the son of his mother's student?I doubt they will reveal it(if it's true) until a long time later, but do you think the author's trying to suggest it based on things revealed so far?This idea just couldn't get out of my mind. Given that his mother was apparently the lover of this person sixteen years ago and she doesn't seem to be married by then. Just so happens, Takeshi's fifteen, making him some sort of posthumous child likely.

omegasereon

2014-01-16, 12:10

The author doesn't really like the anime.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-01-16/even-magical-warfare-original-creator-didnt-think-the-anime-was-a-good-idea

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-16, 12:14

Ouch, that's harsh, though not unjustified. Would it get cancelled, by any chance?

When asked how he felt, Suzuki replied, "Like I've been jabbed with a bamboo sword." [...] As for his favorite characters, Suzuki chooses Mui ("she's just easy to write") and Gekkō ("he lives so honestly that I'm jealous of him"). He concluded the interview by promising a happy ending "since it's a magical girl story."

Shinbashi notes that he answered "disinterestedly."

This guy's good at being sarcastic.

BW95

2014-01-16, 12:22

Note that he doesn't like anime adaptations in general. Not this specific one. He was actually surprised at how well MADHOUSE did with the first episode.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-16, 12:26

He feels that the anime is fairly interesting, though, and is surprised at how much they have been able to do with the material.

Notice how ambiguous this statement is; well I think F/sn anime is fairly interesting--I never said that it's not bad though (it was, as an adaptation and as a work, but back then it did got my interest). And remember:

Shinbashi notes that he answered "disinterestedly."

Besides, what if I find something to be interesting due to how bad it is? Like the classical trope So Bad, It's Funny.

Kadi

2014-01-16, 13:27

Is it just me or did the ANN person not understand the interview at all?

Ougon

2014-01-16, 13:37

Is it just me or did the ANN person not understand the interview at all?

Nope, you were not the only one to have such thoughts.

新橋：スズキヒサシ先生、「魔法戦争」ＴＶアニメ放送開始おめでとうございます！いまのご心境は？

スズキヒサシ：ありがとうございます。いまの心境……やっぱり竹刀突っ込み入るよね（笑）。みたいな感じです。

That part was simply off.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-16, 19:33

tuckersister

2014-01-16, 20:04

Takashi's sword, Twilight belong to one of the 15 magicians. Who exactly was it (I know it's a female)?

Also, is Takaski's mother a magican? Is she connect to the legendary 15 magician from 16 years ago? Which of the main characters's magic gradually become more better?

omegasereon

2014-01-16, 20:06

Ougon

2014-01-16, 20:24

Mind explaining? I kind of read that as "My heart felt like getting stabbed/tsukkomi'd using/by shinai". Pretty equivalent with the one ANN translated, though I'm not an expert on Japanese by any means.

As literal as possible,

Hisashi: Thank you very much. My state of mind at present…… of course that shinai tsukkomi (retort) would be thrown in (lol), something like that/somewhere along that line.

tuckersister

2014-01-16, 21:54

Takashi's mother must of been really strong back in the day. I mean she's one of the 15. That's got to count for something.

BW95

2014-01-16, 22:09

Takashi's mother must of been really strong back in the day. I mean she's one of the 15. That's got to count for something.

Now she's got nothing. How the mighty have fallen.

tuckersister

2014-01-16, 22:38

I wonder if there are any other magicians in the Nanase family. You never know.

Avrorrange

2014-01-16, 23:37

Just watched episode two.Again, that was another heavily mutated episode.

rickiminato

2014-01-17, 02:01

so the mother of takeshi are a teacher and his father a student right
whom his mother wants more to takeshi or gekkou?
the family of kurumi are magician?

Avrorrange

2014-01-17, 02:32

so the mother of takeshi are a teacher and his father a student right
whom his mother wants more to takeshi or gekkou?
the family of kurumi are magician?
That's just my speculation based upon facts revealed so far. Like I said before, we now know that 16 years ago, Takeshi's mother supposedly "seduced" her student and became his lover. Takeshi was born roughly a year later(take into mind conception to birth generally takes about 10 months). Takeshi's mother was also supposed to be unmarried 16 years ago seeing she was still using her maiden name back then. No character has directly suggested this may be the case. His mother likes Gekkou more. Currently, there's nothing to suggest that Kurumi's parents are magicians.

cloud04

2014-01-17, 05:03

wow the manga is fast..vol 2 manga covers vol 2 of LN already

Noble101

2014-01-17, 06:53

Is there a specific reason why the mother cares more for gekkou than takashi?

Avrorrange

2014-01-17, 08:59

Is there a specific reason why the mother cares more for gekkou than takashi?

He's supposedly more talented than Takeshi and better looking than him.

Ougon

2014-01-17, 09:05

He's supposedly more talented than Takeshi and better looking than him.

She also said Whiner resembles her (bitchy part I guess) while Takeshi resembles her husband.

Noble101

2014-01-17, 09:10

He's supposedly more talented than Takeshi and better looking than him.

Wow, her and gekkou annoy me. What kind of mother is she? Hopefully takeshi will put them in their place.

Avrorrange

2014-01-17, 09:18

Wow, her and gekkou annoy me. What kind of mother is she? Hopefully takeshi will put them in their place.

She seems to still care about Takeshi but overall prefers her younger son.At any rate, it's karma for the mother now that Gekkou has joined trailer.I'd very much like the see her reaction when she finds out. It's pretty much her fault that her son's an annoying idiot. She knows perfectly well what his flaws were, but chose not to stop him, perhaps even encouraging them due to her favoritism.

@GEMC

2014-01-17, 09:19

If takeshi resemble his father(salaryman) then the theory of Takeshi being the son of student that his mother seduce is wrong

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-17, 09:21

He's supposedly more talented than Takeshi and better looking than him.

...Steel Ball Run. Wait, Reverse Steel Ball Run, I mean.

So, the MC's power is just the "Seeing into future" power or something? Haven't watch the second episode yet due to connection problems.

Avrorrange

2014-01-17, 09:24

If takeshi resemble his father(salaryman) then the theory of Takeshi being the son of student that his mother seduce is wrong

Perhaps, but I AIN'T GIVING UP!:D Just wondering what exactly is her relationship with her husband or is the 'salary man' really normal.

Ougon

2014-01-17, 09:26

...Steel Ball Run. Wait, Reverse Steel Ball Run, I mean.

So, the MC's power is just the "Seeing into future" power or something? Haven't watch the second episode yet due to connection problems.

Don't worry about the second episode, because I can see the author weeping.

It was implied that he may have the special type magic (that exception within the exceptions one) too.

Avrorrange

2014-01-17, 09:30

Don't worry about the second episode, because I can see the author weeping.

It was implied that he may have the special type magic too.
Is it just me or did they exchange Takeshi's dialogue with Mui? IIRC, Mui was pretty embarrassed when Takeshi asked if she's a 'pureblood' and even tried to dismiss it as nothing special. In the anime, she brought up the topic herself and even seems to have bragged about it.

Ougon

2014-01-17, 09:37

Is it just me or did they exchange Takeshi's dialogue with Mui? IIRC, Mui was pretty embarrassed when Takeshi asked if she's a 'pureblood' and even tried to dismiss it as nothing special. In the anime, she brought up the topic herself and even seems to have bragged about it.

That's just the tip of the ice burg, they made this so stupid that I can't even begin to describe it.

They messed with the order of explanations while reveling them which caused immense confusion among anime only viewers, raped the introduction of the "real" members of the trailers, and the list just goes on and on.

BW95

2014-01-17, 09:39

She seems to still care about Takeshi but overall prefers her younger son.At any rate, it's karma for the mother now that Takeshi has joined trailer.I'd very much like the see her reaction when she finds out. It's pretty much her fault that her son's an annoying idiot. She knows perfectly well what his flaws were, but chose not to stop him, perhaps even encouraging them due to her favoritism.

You mean since Gekkou joined trailer?

Avrorrange

2014-01-17, 09:45

You mean since Gekkou joined trailer?

OOPS! Yeah, pretty much. Perfect karma.

That's just the tip of the ice burg, they made this so stupid that I can't even begin to describe it.

They messed with the order of explanations while reveling them which caused immense confusion among anime only viewers, raped the introduction of the "real" members of the trailers, and the list just goes on and on.

I don't have any hope for this anime anymore. They are probably going to rush it. They might even rush to volume six and leave some stupid anime original ending--seeing Gekkou doesn't actually become a major villain until vol 5.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-17, 10:18

I don't have any hope for this anime anymore. They are probably going to rush it. They might even rush to volume six and leave some stupid anime original ending--seeing Gekkou doesn't actually become a major villain until vol 5.

I remember seeing a poster with Gekkou on it... or was that one of the novel's illust? And I'm only following to see how bad could it be. Well, there goes the chance of it ever getting a decent anime since it'll probably won't ever have a second season due to low BD prospect. It'll probably stuck in a limbo even deeper than the Maikaze Touhou OVAs.

JTeague

2014-01-18, 11:34

I came to the forums with questions and they've been answered by spoilers! Only to give me more questions.

For instance, does Gekkou really love Kurumi? My impression, from how he's described, is that he just wants everything that Takeshi has. If one were to actually Psychoanalyze it sounds like he believes he's supposed to be better than Takeshi and deserves what Takeshi has more than Takeshi deserves it himself. Is that impression wrong?

Also, is it possible that Takeshi's mother not liking him is Guilt Transference?

If Takeshi's real father was that other student. IF that's the case, then whether or not she loved him he did die for her, and she did keep his child. Maybe she feels guilty and ends up treating Takeshi badly for it since she reminds her of him, and she sees Gekkou as someone who's wholly hers that she can give the world too. Also maybe she has a hard time getting close to Takeshi, since he, like his hypothetical father, is the type that would also die for others without a second thought. Gekkou on the other hand is selfish, so he'd be more of a survivor by putting himself first. This is what I imagine his mothers line of thinking could be, it's not really my personal view so don't flame me on "being selfish doesn't make you survive since gekkou sucks". I'd agree with you, so please me nice.

^^ Not sure if I should spoiler wrap it or not but just in case..

Ougon no Kemono if you see this give it a read please.

Ougon

2014-01-18, 11:46

I came to the forums with questions and they've been answered by spoilers! Only to give me more questions.

For instance, does Gekkou really love Kurumi? My impression, from how he's described, is that he just wants everything that Takeshi has. If one were to actually Psychoanalyze it sounds like he believes he's supposed to be better than Takeshi and deserves what Takeshi has more than Takeshi deserves it himself. Is that impression wrong?

It's precisely because Twerpko loves Kurumi that he wants to steal everything away from Takeshi, because Twerpko believes Takeshi took Kurumi away from him.

Though, the poor Twerpko wasn't even in the race to begin with.

Also, is it possible that Takeshi's mother not liking him is Guilt Transference?

If Takeshi's real father was that other student. IF that's the case, then whether or not she loved him he did die for her, and she did keep his child. Maybe she feels guilty and ends up treating Takeshi badly for it since she reminds her of him, and she sees Gekkou as someone who's wholly hers that she can give the world too.

Well, as I've said, the evidence we've been given until now, points towards that Takeshi's father is the same as Twerpko's, in other words, the current husband of Youko.

^^ Not sure if I should spoiler wrap it or not but just in case..

Ougon no Kemono if you see this give it a read please.

Open the Spoiler tags in the Quote above to read my reply.

yuiichi9

2014-01-18, 12:28

Don't worry about the second episode, because I can see the author weeping.

It was implied that he may have the special type magic (that exception within the exceptions one) too.

What kind of power? Did they reveal that info?

BW95

2014-01-18, 12:48

Don't worry about the second episode, because I can see the author weeping.

It was implied that he may have the special type magic (that exception within the exceptions one) too.

How was it hinted?

tuckersister

2014-01-18, 17:15

What's the short summary of Vol 7 besides Kurumi's survival?

araragi92

2014-01-18, 21:32

Just saw the pictures in the volume 6

Who Kurumi kiss?

Someone who has read the LN can explain? :)

Ophis

2014-01-18, 21:36

Just saw the pictures in the volume 6

Who Kurumi kiss?

Someone who has read the LN can explain? :)

Seems to be a girl.:twitch: I'm really curious too.

araragi92

2014-01-18, 22:09

Seems to be a girl.:twitch: I'm really curious too.

I think too, and in the volume 5 she kiss Takeshi too, she likes to kiss people :D

BW95

2014-01-20, 10:39

New manga chapter! Interesting background. This just make the anime even worse.

ghost013

2014-01-20, 11:56

Ch 3.

Better chapter, not as rushed unlike the anime. However, I still feel like there are some gaps in story flow. Can anyone tell me the manga follows the LN more closely?

endarion88

2014-01-23, 17:57

still nothing about vol 7? i mean except that semi spoiler about kurumi fate?

DevilHighDxD

2014-01-23, 18:29

So pretty that even college student is asking her out at middle school age... Just wow! Getting chased around by pedophile is no wonder she developed any-men-beside-Takeshi androphobia.

Avaricia

2014-01-23, 18:33

sgtlonestar91

2014-01-23, 23:40

Just wondering but is any site translating these novels or are the people comparing the anime to the story in the novel all reading the japanese books?

Kadi

2014-01-23, 23:44

There is not really an English translation, so we who know what's going on have either read the Japanese original or a Chinese translation, I guess.

cloud04

2014-01-23, 23:44

DevilHighDxD

2014-01-23, 23:56

i dont remember that being said in the manga version though..doesnt she hate any except takeshi and ida?

Oh, this is new development from the latest anime episode explaining the origin of Kurumi's androphobia.

vanca

2014-01-24, 01:58

So pretty that even college student is asking her out at middle school age... Just wow! Getting chased around by pedophile is no wonder she developed any-men-beside-Takeshi androphobia.
i dont remember that being said in the manga version though..doesnt she hate any except takeshi and ida?

It doesn't help that she doesn't have anyone else to confide, lives alone in that huge mansion with just an old butler for her company. Takeshi was the only one who really tried to break her shell and be nice to her for who she really was, without any ulterior motives. This was what makes Takeshi different from Gekkou in Kurumi's eyes, despite both was her childhood friends. That's why he's the only person she believes and feels comfortable around for long time, understandable that she then become that dependent on him. Kurumi really has solid reason for choose Takeshi, not Gekkou or other guys.

I think it's not that she only likes Takeshi and Ida. It's just that, over the time, her hates toward men gradually subsides. Now her traumatic fears only appears when guy(s) approaching her are clearly wants to pursue her romantically or touches her excessively. I think she's fine into ordinary interactions with boys.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 02:08

As a person with arachnophobia, I could understand it. I could pretty much control it unless it's really big and gets close. Doesn't mean I won't try to immediately kill or avoid any though...

Say, how was the circumstance behind Ida's turning in the LN?

bones

2014-01-24, 03:07

Kleeyook

2014-01-24, 03:35

Although, the anime utterly fails at evoking any sympathy for her whatsoever. All I was thinking yeah I get it you have obsessed guys after you, go get a bodyguard or something what is with this fake boyfriend nonsense.

People normally don't have bodyguards for this kind of stuff unless they're extremely rich, politicians or mafias though.

bones

2014-01-24, 03:53

She comes from a rich family didn't you see that big-ass house she lives in.

Kadi

2014-01-24, 04:18

So you want her to be guarded by a bodyguard even in the classroom? Sure. It's not like the girl had no problems with socializing already...

bones

2014-01-24, 04:40

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 04:48

By bodyguard, something like Sousuke Sagara but more sane? Sir, unfortunately that would turn the title into Full Magic Panic with the guy being the main character and Kurumi the main heroine.

Did I say unfortunately? I meant fortunately. Sorry, I stuttered.

vanca

2014-01-24, 06:10

Oh, forgot to mention. Anime skipped this but, actually in novel, Kurumi's past was darker, as she wasn't only stalked but also kidnapped for some time. That's why her trauma is severe. And Gekkou recently made it worse, by make her experiencing that kind of painful situation again (he kidnapped her). And yet that guy still keep insisting to everyone that he's the better match for Kurumi, what a LOL-worthy d*ck.

Avrorrange

2014-01-24, 06:17

A bodyguard is supposed to create a safe environment for her to do that. Any problems she has with socializing, can be solved by her and to a lesser extent her friends. I just don't see the solution she came up with as a viable one. Why would she be needed to be guarded even in the classroom? Is it impossible for Takeshi or any other friend to help her out without being romantically involved?

Problem is--what friends? The light novel goes into more detail. The guys at her school lusts after her while the girls despise her because they were jealous of her looks. They even ganged up on her once--putting mud into her shoes. Mui's like her first female friend.So before that, Takeshi's the only one she can rely upon.

bakapervert

2014-01-24, 06:40

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 07:11

Can someone tell me in more detail about the cause of the rift between Takeshi and Gekkou in LN? Just watch episode 3 of the anime and it looks like Takeshi accidentally push Gekkou into the path of oncoming car, or is it Takeshi pushing Gekkou out of the harm way? Doesn't really clear there what actually happened.

From what I've read from the pages before, that seems to be the main point: it isn't clear whether it was an honest accident, a murder attempt, or a rescue attempt.

Avrorrange

2014-01-24, 07:39

Can someone tell me in more detail about the cause of the rift between Takeshi and Gekkou in LN? Just watch episode 3 of the anime and it looks like Takeshi accidentally push Gekkou into the path of oncoming car, or is it Takeshi pushing Gekkou out of the harm way? Doesn't really clear there what actually happened.

Gekkou was way more annoying and provocative during that scene in the LN than the anime.He basically said that Takeshi doesn't deserve Kurumi because he's better than him in both looks and in kendo.

bakapervert

2014-01-24, 07:43

Avrorrange

2014-01-24, 07:45

No way that's a murder attempt. So even in LN its also not clear what actually happened? Who got crashed by the car? The anime only show the bouken crushed, but both actually carry bouken. Hopefully its a rescue attempt. I want more reason to hate the whiny bi**h.

In the novel, Gekkou pushed Takeshi first, and during the collision between his body and Takeshi's, his body moved backwards towards the road.Takeshi then gave an additional push.Takeshi doesn't actually know if he actually wanted to save him but accidentally pushed him further out or did he intentionally pushed him out onto the road due to the provocation I mentioned earlier. Either way, his hand just pushed him out whether it was accidental or not. At any rate, too bad the bi%ch survived it.

Ougon

2014-01-24, 07:53

Rejoice you leechers~

This is getting translated, the angry little ones whining in here will pipe down hopefully.

For more info check BT forums out.

bakapervert

2014-01-24, 07:58

In the novel, Gekkou pushed Takeshi first, and during the collision between his body and Takeshi's, his body moved backwards towards the road.Takeshi then gave an additional push.Takeshi doesn't actually know if he actually wanted to save him but accidentally pushed him further out or did he intentionally pushed him out onto the road due to the provocation I mentioned earlier. Either way, his hand just pushed him out whether it was accidental or not. At any rate, too bad the bi%ch survived it.

So the bastard really got crashed? Does it have any permanent effect on him? A legitimate reason to hate Takeshi?

Avrorrange

2014-01-24, 08:04

So the bastard really got crashed? Does it have any permanent effect on him? A legitimate reason to hate Takeshi?

The scum can no longer practice kendo.

His whole motive in the series can basically be boiled down to this:
That b@$t@rd brother of mine betrayed me by taking my girl as well as leaving me crippled.He's taken everything I value from me! He even tried to get me killed.I WANT REVENGE!REVENGE!

Ougon

2014-01-24, 08:05

The twerp can't swing the stick anymore due to that accident.

Edit: Ninja'd

Oh well, I'll add something then,

The chief of twerpy mountain, wants to take everything away from Takeshi, he can only feel enjoyment by tormenting Takeshi.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 08:13

Avrorrange

2014-01-24, 08:15

If it weren't for his shallow motivation for starting the fight, I could actually sympathize with his hate to a certain degree.

Well, at this let's just quote Speedwagon on Dio, with appropriate changes: You blame your patheticness to your brother, but you are already pathetic from the birth!

Problem is that Gekkou was the one who pushed his brother first. If Takeshi really did plan to push him out onto the road, it's just retaliation. Most people would have just retaliated if they were attacked for some random reason.

tuckersister

2014-01-24, 08:23

How much does Takashi knows about his mom so far?

Also, his mom's name is Youko.

bakapervert

2014-01-24, 08:33

The scum can no longer practice kendo.

His whole motive in the series can basically be boiled down to this:
That b@$t@rd brother of mine betrayed me by taking my girl as well as leaving me crippled.He's taken everything I value from me! He even tried to get me killed.I WANT REVENGE!REVENGE!

Kinda feel a little pity he got crippled...... Okay, I lied. You got your just dessert as**ole. XD

But if he got crippled, how can he back in action in the later volume then?

Breimoon

2014-01-24, 08:36

did magic heal his injury?

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 08:39

Problem is that Gekkou was the one who pushed his brother first. If Takeshi really did plan to push him out onto the road, it's just retaliation. Most people would have just retaliated if they were attacked for some random reason.

Indeed, but as I've said, if it was less petty and he could actually admit that he was wrong (or realize it deep down), he would be pretty okay. And I actually prefer it that way. I like cool and/or noble antagonist over pathetic and clearly evil ones.

Avrorrange

2014-01-24, 08:46

Kinda feel a little pity he got crippled...... Okay, I lied. You got your just dessert as**ole. XD

But if he got crippled, how can he back in action in the later volume then?

He's just crippled in kendo, that's all. He can still move and all.At any rate, maybe he used magic to heal himself back to full strength.I haven't read about how well he fights. Just speculating.

erdii

2014-01-24, 10:43

by the way can some tell me why Kurumi didn't confess to Takeshi if she really liked him. why this fake relationship ?

JTeague

2014-01-24, 14:29

I guess in retrospect Gekkou's whole mindset get's alluded too a lot before hand.
I haven't read the light novel, but in the manga it has a club captain confessing to Kurumi because he assumes (although correctly) that they're fake dating and acts like he'd be a better match for her.
In the anime it has some random guy confess to Kurumi because he assumes (although correctly) that their relationship is on the outs and acts like she'd say yes.
Other than further explaining Takeshi and Kurumi's relationship, they completely disregard Takeshi's existence as her boyfriend. Like he doesn't matter or doesn't suit or they themselves would be in comparison.

Exactly like Gekkou.
I think that's really neat, it establishes a sort of baseline for Gekkou early on before you even get to know him and his character well. It's especially neat because they seem so superfluous at the time, but help you understand things later on as an object of comparison. Like it's really thought through ahead of time.

Kadi

2014-01-24, 16:59

Let's be fair: Gekkou was a nutcase before the accident, too. It just gave him the last push.

And he can still swing a sword. Just... I imagine legwork is impossible (thus, he also can't get 100% power behind his swings) and moving too much will make his leg hurt and stuff?

And Kurumi never confessed because she never had to. She had Takeshi and the situation seemed stable, why risk it?

cloud04

2014-01-24, 19:38

And Kurumi never confessed because she never had to. She had Takeshi and the situation seemed stable, why risk it?

guess the fake makes it real for her huh XD
true why risk it..you got your man already even if its "fake"

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 19:38

In the past, yeah. In the present? Because Mui.

CheesusCrust

2014-01-24, 20:11

In the past, yeah. In the present? Because Mui.

Like, she doesn't confess because of Mui? Does Mui know they are fake dating?

BW95

2014-01-24, 20:24

by the way can some tell me why Kurumi didn't confess to Takeshi if she really liked him. why this fake relationship ?

I don't know. Why don't heroines just confess to the main protagonist if they already like him?

araragi92

2014-01-24, 20:25

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-24, 21:21

Like, she doesn't confess because of Mui? Does Mui know they are fake dating?

Because Mui just had to kiss Takeshi, and Takeshi was actually calling her with her first name implying some sort of chemistry there. Mui might not know that they are fake dating, but if she finds out then it's all game for her to try to snatch him away. Heck, even if she doesn't, that doesn't discount the possibility of Takeshi falling for her because Kurumi never confessed.

She's a threat to their relationship, if she wants to ensure it protected, then she will have to step out of her comfort zone. Unfortunately, that will not happen, because Drama.

vanca

2014-01-25, 01:20

In the episode 3 Takeshi wants to stop pretending to be in relationship with Kurumi after Mui believe Kurumi and him are really dating, he also said they should stop the fake relationship if someone falls in love with someone.

That + blocks the kiss with Kurumi and not with Mui, these hints lead me to believe he has feelings for Mui, its the feeling that i had after watched this episode.

Those were just part of red herrings thrown by author to keep us guessing the result of that romance drama for some time :heh: Poor Takeshi, author try so hard on made his feelings as ambiguous and hard-to-read as possible, his intentions as vague as possible not only to Kurumi-Mui but also to Gekkou, creating some misunderstandings on the way, with that typical male lead's blockhead. But thank God he slowly but certainly come out from that mud, finally realize on who he loves.

As @JTeague said above, no matter whether your opinion on this series is good or bad, I acknowledge the author's ability to plan things before hand. The romance part, too. It's like author knows since the start on who he wants Takeshi to fall in love with, then deliberately created red herrings to throw some people's prediction off. All the points you mentioned above are some of examples, plus why Takeshi can call Mui by her given name easily but he couldn't for Kurumi since few years ago. Let me just say Takeshi's reasons for all of those are not because he loves Mui rather than Kurumi.

Ougon

2014-01-25, 06:46

This LN is filled with red herrings, if we hadn't spoiled things, people would be going WTF everywhere.

I guess the only ones who will really enjoy this series, would be those who have not read the spoilers.

PS:

Editor Hunting-

Looking for competent editors for Mahou Sensou Light Novel.

Anyone up for it? If someone is, then just give a shout on the BT Forums.

tuckersister

2014-01-25, 08:57

I think someone unaffiliated saved Takashi and Gekkou before disappearing in Vol 7.

I still rooting that there are other magicians within the Nanase family.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-25, 18:32

^^ ...tempting, but I don't think my English skill is enough just yet. I think I still need another year of writing stories before I reach that point.

By the way, Ougon, I'm still wondering about whatever happened to Ida in the LN. Like the circumstance behind his turning inyo magician here, how he is in the romantic map, and his backstory... well, he is my favorite haracter so far after all, no doubt because he really looks like Gilgamesh.

cloud04

2014-01-25, 20:20

ougon picking it up?

Ougon

2014-01-25, 20:34

cloud04

2014-01-25, 20:36

Nope, I am not the man~ I just translated the Terminology page, and added few things.

Jin ssi is the translator, I am only gonna proofread it.

PS: By the way, were you guys the ones who were translating the Manga?

i was yea..but im just gonna release ch 3 and 4 of our version and probably drop it..then MSD will continue it..and im rather surprised..vol 2 of the manga=vol 2 of the novel already

Ougon

2014-01-25, 20:43

i was yea..but im just gonna release ch 3 and 4 of our version and probably drop it..then MSD will continue it..and im rather surprised..vol 2 of the manga=vol 2 of the novel already

Yeah, IIRC author was crying about the manga as well.

cloud04

2014-01-25, 20:44

Yeah, IIRC author was crying about the manga as well.

really??not art wise?im not sure if its close to the LN but its different from how epi 1 did

BW95

2014-01-25, 20:44

Yeah, IIRC author was crying about the manga as well.

Dang. You'd think that manga adaptations would be more faithful than anime. Why would they do this?

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-25, 20:47

Because money? Or because general incompetency of Japanese writers? (note: I'm talking about whoever's writing the manga's storyline)

Ougon

2014-01-25, 20:51

Well, chapter 1 is about almost fifty% done, you can compare it to the first chapter of the manga. The manga seems to have butchered a lot of things out.

BW95

2014-01-25, 20:51

Because money? Or because general incompetency of Japanese writers? (note: I'm talking about whoever's writing the manga's storyline)

I don't see how money could be the problem. Manga is manga and drawings are drawings. Changing the story wouldn't really affect either. What possible benefit would changing the plot yield?

cloud04

2014-01-25, 20:52

Well, chapter 1 is about almost fifty% done, you can compare it to the first chapter of the manga. The manga seems to have butchered a lot of things out.

well true expected from anime that they will cut alot..but for a manga..was hoping it was gonna be close ._.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-25, 21:20

I don't see how money could be the problem. Manga is manga and drawings are drawings. Changing the story wouldn't really affect either. What possible benefit would changing the plot yield?

Hey, don't ask me. I'm not the guy who made the decision, ask those guys who did what were they thinking. Still, maybe changing the story could makes the pace faster thus we get to the interesting part faster? That was what the people in the anime team was thinking after all... or maybe they just thought about cleaning up the plots? As a fanfic reader, I've seen a few stories that are actually better than canon after all (like Enslaved to ZnT or Dark Wings to I.S.), maybe it's the same thought?

Kadi

2014-01-26, 00:31

It's all about money. Some of the readers of one LN will want to read its manga, asap. Thus they buy the magazine the manga is released in. In the magazine are a LOT of other LN-based mangas... and if something in them catches the reader's interest, he buys the LNs for that, too. Either to find out what happens next or because they're interested in a heroine or "the truth", who knows. In the end, it doesn't matter. The publisher earns and earns and earns. It's the same with making anime to increase the interest in the novels.

In the end, people hardly care about quality anymore. If they did, we wouldn't have train wrecks such as the Mahou Sensou anime... and I call it a train wreck because of the dialogue, the (lack of) character development, the info dumping, the pacing overall and not because it's "inaccurate" or whatever as an adaption. Just... people don't expect quality anymore, either. If I start bitching about dialogue and pacing, way too many people don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-26, 00:50

Hm... but what sort of money would they gain from butchering the manga though? And from what I've seen, quality story do brings more money than you do with just pretty images. I mean, that's what happened with Madoka Magica and F/sn. If it's just the image, then Hidamari would be more popular than it is now and Fate had a pretty bad, well, just so-so drawing originally; yet both are the cash-cow franchise of their respective company (well, Shaft already had a lot of cash-cow franchises though...).

And all in all, wouldn't it be less effort to follow the already established storyline instead of breaking it apart? You only need to pay attention to the screenplay instead of the scenario writing too...

Avrorrange

2014-01-26, 00:52

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-26, 00:55

That might be, but a lot of people values good adaptation. I mean, every now and then I see people bitching about how it's different even if it's pretty good on it's own. But that again, if they were that smart, they wouldn't have made as many mistake as they do now... on that note, is the manga that bad?

Avrorrange

2014-01-26, 00:56

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-26, 02:19

The anime is on a whole different level...

JTeague

2014-01-27, 11:01

I think someone unaffiliated saved Takashi and Gekkou before disappearing in Vol 7.

I still rooting that there are other magicians within the Nanase family.

Maybe they got picked up by a rogue family therapist/magician?

Stranger things could happen.

I wonder if Gekkou is going to get somewhat redeemed at some point to pair up with Mui.
Maybe Takeshi will decide to redeem him a bit by beating him half to death with a brick and telling him what a little turd he is.
Then Mui will be kind to this half dead Takeshi look alike.
The end.

There does seem to be a bit of a sibling theme though? Takeshi and Gekkou, Mui and her brother, Ida and his sister. A lot of characters seemed to partly define who they are in reference to their relationship with their sibling.
A rogue family therapist/magician could do quite well in this world.

Amario

2014-01-27, 13:43

well true expected from anime that they will cut alot..but for a manga..was hoping it was gonna be close ._.

The fact that Kurumi and Ida already became magicians right off the bat it was annoyed me, but well nothing can be done now....
And lets not forget about the manga version....

Ougon

2014-01-28, 18:53

The hypocrisy in the anime thread is really rubbing me the wrong way... Seriously how can the geniuses in the anime thread deduce that Takeshi's mother was the previous owner of the Twilight?

Awrya

2014-01-28, 19:12

Maybe a time traveller who, after seeing it revealed in an episode, decided to travel into the past and show off his detective skills?

For those who have read the novel and watched the anime, how is the pace so far?
For a 1-cour the number of volumes adapted is usually 2-3, how many do you think will be adapted?

Ougon

2014-01-28, 19:15

cloud04

2014-01-28, 19:54

Or maybe they peaked in here and are trying to be smart ass.

Anime is gonna cover up to the 6th volume.

wait what till v6?i assumed it was til just v4..

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-28, 20:03

The hypocrisy in the anime thread is really rubbing me the wrong way... Seriously how can the geniuses in the anime thread deduce that Takeshi's mother was the previous owner of the Twilight?

Because they've seen other people here saying about it? And those people had read/lurked on the LN thread?

Ougon

2014-01-28, 20:05

wait what till v6?i assumed it was til just v4..

It can be easily deduced with the promotion posters, that anime will be covering, at the very lest, six volumes.

We should be done with the fourth volume around episode 7-8, after which the whiner arc will start.

Because they've seen other people here saying about it? And those people had read/lurked on the LN thread?

I've even seen few names lurking down here.

Feng Lengshun

2014-01-28, 20:43

I've even seen few names lurking down here.

Not including invisible ones too. Personally, my first thought when I DID watched the episode 2 "It must be a plot device and the former owner will later appear as either an antagonist or possible harem member." Kinda like what I did when I heard the name Izanagi Princess in Kikou Shoujo ep 1.

Ougon

2014-01-28, 20:57

Not including invisible ones too. Personally, my first thought when I DID watched the episode 2 "It must be a plot device and the former owner will later appear as either an antagonist or possible harem member." Kinda like what I did when I heard the name Izanagi Princess in Kikou Shoujo ep 1.

Yes, that's the only real conclusion one would arrive at by deducing the info provided by the anime.

Takashi's mother is totally not in the picture yet. It would have been believable if they attempted this hypocrisy after certain events, but no, they just had to go "I am the smart^$$".

cloud04

2014-01-29, 17:22

oh nice music clip for ED is out..and seems ED song torrent is out too

DevilHighDxD

2014-01-30, 16:03

I have a question if someone can answered that on the first page of the thread that show the novel's picture, is that girl with the big knife Kurumi?

Ougon

2014-01-30, 16:14

I have a question if someone can answered that on the first page of the thread that show the novel's picture, is that girl with the big knife Kurumi?

Nope, that's not Kurumi. The identity of that one should be revealed pretty soon.

PS: I'll throw in a hint, If you can bare through the OP, there is some enormous foreshadowing about that one.

huynhlan

2014-01-30, 17:03

Err, I have quick question about the little brother, does he ever said to kurumi something like, "I am more talented and handsomer than takashi so you should pick me"? I f he does I really want to know kurumi reply to this, I hope she said something like "in your dream, fool. Takashi is way better in look and skill than you".

omegasereon

2014-01-30, 22:36

Nope, that's not Kurumi. The identity of that one should be revealed pretty soon.

PS: I'll throw in a hint, If you can bare through the OP, there is some enormous foreshadowing about that one.

Is she related to twilight?

ghost013

2014-01-31, 00:35

dark44

2014-01-31, 02:23

if she was twilight and choose gekko????????? he must be more talented than Takashi

shadow1296

2014-01-31, 16:11

I don't think she is twilight, but either a manifestation of takashi's own power or twilight's original owner

Awrya

2014-01-31, 18:06

Any chance one of you guys can re-upload it somewhere?
The image on the first page won't load up for me with Chrome, Explorer and going to the link also doesn't show anything.

shadow1296

2014-01-31, 18:13

http://s3.zerochan.net/Mahou.Sensou.240.1458350.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458350)http://s3.zerochan.net/Mahou.Sensou.240.1458347.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458347)http://s3.zerochan.net/Aiba.Mui.240.1458339.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458339)

here's some sorry i accidentally deleted the one in the beginning post also that first image that i posted that i accidentally deleted was of the headmaster fightinghttp://s3.zerochan.net/Shijou.Momoka.240.1458333.jpg (http://www.zerochan.net/1458333)

haseo0408

2014-02-01, 15:05

wait what till v6?i assumed it was til just v4..

Are You kidding me!? They plan to adapt 6 volumes in just 12 episodes, Are they crazy? I´m watching the anime because I like the story but I´m getting a bad feeling about this.

Vezon

2014-02-06, 19:40

So I'm just watching the anime but does Kurumi and Orgami get close in anyway in the novel?

BW95

2014-02-06, 19:46

Alright, so we know Gekkou's a little turd, but where are we with Mui's brother?

araragi92

2014-02-06, 19:59

So I'm just watching the anime but does Kurumi and Orgami get close in anyway in the novel?

I don't know but on wikipedia they are hints

as the story progress she become more like the actual heroine; with her traumatic past linked with Takeshi and Gekkou, her complex relationship with both, and the affections Takeshi, Gekkou, and Takao Oigami all harbor toward her.

He later forms a close bond with Kurumi, even calls her by her first name, "Kurumi", much to the ire of Takeshi

In my opinion, it's not impossible Kurumi develops feelings for Oigami after have watched the last episode.

He saves kurumi + this scene scream "NTR incoming":

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/199/qtad.png (https://imageshack.com/i/5jqtadp)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/594/ftqn.png (https://imageshack.com/i/giftqnp)

vieri32

2014-02-06, 20:36

BW95

2014-02-06, 20:42

Mui is a SISCOM, Takeshi uses it as a substitute for his brother, his obsession with his brother gets to the point of wanting to have sex with him as we saw in epsodio 5, Takeshi grabbing her and talking her brother's name.

More joy for all Takeshi according to the ligth novel loves Kurumi, as Kurumim is madly in love with Takeshi.

not like Mui, I hate people who use others as surrogates.

I hate being the rebound guy, too, but let's not jump to conclusions. There is a definite possibility for Mui to actually fall for Takeshi, especially after he stuck his neck out to save her twice.

vieri32

2014-02-06, 21:02

More from what I read so far, Kurumi always seemed true to Takeshi, she always rejected all Oigami, and when she discovered that she liked her Gekkou also rejected.

What was your reaction when Kurumi, Takeshi Oigami was furious when she called by his first name?
Kurumi no feelings for Oigami because it cuts all its advanced?

BW95

2014-02-06, 21:19

You read the LN?
Because i read some summaries on 4chan and it seems she is friendly with Ida and Oigami even if she says to hate all men except Takeshi.

Can you give us a link? I can't figure out how to navigate 4chan.

tuckersister

2014-02-06, 21:21

Same here.

Feng Lengshun

2014-02-06, 21:22

Mui is a SISCOM, Takeshi uses it as a substitute for his brother, his obsession with his brother gets to the point of wanting to have sex with him as we saw in epsodio 5, Takeshi grabbing her and talking her brother's name.

More joy for all Takeshi according to the ligth novel loves Kurumi, as Kurumim is madly in love with Takeshi.

not like Mui, I hate people who use others as surrogates.

You mean Brocon, right? And the way you phrased it as if Takeshi loves/yaoi for his brother and Yui's brother and usig her as a substitute...

(Rolls on the floor) ahaha, god I can't even imagine it! Still, everyone seems to start to hate this whole series ever since the anime aired, don't they?

vieri32

2014-02-06, 21:30

You read the LN?
Because i read some summaries on 4chan and it seems she is friendly with Ida and Oigami even if she says to hate all men except Takeshi.As a friend or a romantic way? or so as a friend?
From what I've read so far, she really loves very Takeshi, being the one to touch her without rejection.