Saijaku muhai no Bahamut

[digitalak27]

I'm still wondering about that short story

[setsuna86]

I'm still wondering about that short story

As the title says, it's a small story about Airi's observation of Lux.

[bakato]

As the title says, it's a small story about Airi's observation of Lux.

I'm getting stalker/brocon vibes.

[DragonKing0117]

Hey Setsuna, or if anyone else is willing to, can I ask you for some help in translating the Dragride (Drag-Ride?) info on the light novel's official site? This section here (http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/bahamut_project/dragride.html)? I'm trying to make a page for the Dragrides (Drag-Ride?) on the wiki, but I'm running into the wall on how I want the page to look just from just what's been translated in the novels, hence trying to gather info from the official site.

EDIT: I guess it only has to be the ones that have shown up in what's been translated so far if spoilers might be a problem.

[akim36]

VOL 2 is finished and up!

[setsuna86]

Hey Setsuna, or if anyone else is willing to, can I ask you for some help in translating the Dragride (Drag-Ride?) info on the light novel's official site? This section here (http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/bahamut_project/dragride.html)? I'm trying to make a page for the Dragrides (Drag-Ride?) on the wiki, but I'm running into the wall on how I want the page to look just from just what's been translated in the novels, hence trying to gather info from the official site.

EDIT: I guess it only has to be the ones that have shown up in what's been translated so far if spoilers might be a problem.

Can you send a version doc of this page. I'll see what I can do.
BTW, as for how the page should look, you can present the Drag-Rides by types:

Flying, ground and customized type (see terminology on BT.) and explain them with info from what's been translated and the official site.
I could gladly do it, but not now. It might be in two months. So try to do what you can. And I'll help a bit.

[Nagakun]

Well.. it good to know there is one wiki for it.. (=w= ||)

Good luck, and I will take a look into it once in a while

[akim36]

@setsuna86
so im guessing youre on hold till Madan comes out this week and start translating that?

[setsuna86]

@setsuna86
so im guessing youre on hold till Madan comes out this week and start translating that?

Yes, I want to take at least a small break before Madan is released.

[araragi92]

It was great. Divine Raiment <Avesta> can steal a Divine drag-ride’s ability which enables him to use <Reload On Fire> on the Bahamut. My hatred for Barzeride grows throughout the chapter, it made the fight even better.

I will read the epilogue later.

[DragonKing0117]

Can you send a version doc of this page. I'll see what I can do.
BTW, as for how the page should look, you can present the Drag-Rides by types:

Flying, ground and customized type (see terminology on BT.) and explain them with info from what's been translated and the official site.
I could gladly do it, but not now. It might be in two months. So try to do what you can. And I'll help a bit.

I'll see what I can do on that front.

Should I add a section for Divine Drag-Rides on that page as well, along with individual pages for each specific one, or make a section for the Divine Drag-Rides on that page along with an individual page that lists all the Divine Drag-Rides and their information?

Ah, and Madan is about to come out soon as well huh? Got it, I can wait until after you're finished up with that first.

EDIT: It seems that for the site, each web page is basically just a giant image file with hot links to the various sections set on different parts of it, so I may have some trouble making a version doc out of it.

[XFire]

That was great. Asshole got royally served, Lux reveals technique number two, Kurulucifer continues to switch between Derecifer and Trollcifer at will, and Lisha is still Lisha. Everything I wanted.

[Fenrisulfr]

You can take a screenshot of it and send it as a image file.

[DragonKing0117]

You can take a screenshot of it and send it as a image file.

Depends on how Setsuna wants it. If it's just image files, than I can PM him the images that are cropped to only show what needs to be translated. Of course, if he just wants the text itself, I can use the version of Smart OCR that I got a while back to get the text on a Word Document and go from there, though that'll take a bit longer.

[setsuna86]

Depends on how Setsuna wants it. If it's just image files, than I can PM him the images that are cropped to only show what needs to be translated. Of course, if he just wants the text itself, I can use the version of Smart OCR that I got a while back to get the text on a Word Document and go from there, though that'll take a bit longer.

You can just send me the image files, I also have Smart OCR, I'll convert them into word doc.

[DragonKing0117]

You can just send me the image files, I also have Smart OCR, I'll convert them into word doc.

Got it. I'll send them now then.

[Gun_Seraph]

So after reading Volume 2, I basically had my theory confirmed:

The world they live in was presumably seeded by ancient humans via advanced technology. Due to unknown reasons -I'm guessing the abyss had something to do with it, also in-fighting and possibly anti-technology advocates- that civilization declined, and it's only remnants are the drag-knights (ancients space-suits?) and the ruins (big if: remnants of the ships the ancient humans came with)0000000000

And another theory:
Lux and Airi have silver hair, Lux has high aptitude. Kuruculfer who we now know is a survivor of the ancient race, the box she was found in probably a cold sleep/stasis pod also has silver hair and high aptitude. Furthermore she is considered a vital "key" to the ancient technology From what we have learned of Fugil -Lux's self-proclaimed not-brother- he also has silver, presumably high aptitude and a whole lot of working knowledge concerning ancient tech and the secrets of the world

So is there any new information supporting or disproving my hunch?

Also, thank you Setsuna and DualxBlades for the translations. Thank you very much.

[setsuna86]

So after reading Volume 2, I basically had my theory confirmed:

The world they live in was presumably seeded by ancient humans via advanced technology. Due to unknown reasons -I'm guessing the abyss had something to do with it, also in-fighting and possibly anti-technology advocates- that civilization declined, and it's only remnants are the drag-knights (ancients space-suits?) and the ruins (big if: remnants of the ships the ancient humans came with)0000000000

And another theory:
Lux and Airi have silver hair, Lux has high aptitude. Kuruculfer who we now know is a survivor of the ancient race, the box she was found in probably a cold sleep/stasis pod also has silver hair and high aptitude. Furthermore she is considered a vital "key" to the ancient technology From what we have learned of Fugil -Lux's self-proclaimed not-brother- he also has silver, presumably high aptitude and a whole lot of working knowledge concerning ancient tech and the secrets of the world

So is there any new information supporting or disproving my hunch?

Also, thank you Setsuna and DualxBlades for the translations. Thank you very much.

I also thought the same thing. And that hunch is highly possible.
BTW, Kuru has blue hair, not silver.

[senjiro]

Thanks setsuna.
Lol kuru is so cuteeeee, and airi at first i was thinking she was tsun-tsun, but is a imouto.(who never wants her oniichán going out with any girl but her).
Poor lizhe, kurulu steal first and scond lux's kiss.
The maid seems a little airhead too nnot?
And regards ragnarok...
Is not a monster but the battle will succed when lux has to marry, total war beetwen kingdom(lizhe&queen) holy country(kurulu&maid) academy(phi-chan&principal) and cute imouto ...! Who will be the winner? Wait the next vol. My friends., ... oh wait.. i almost forgot new girls..,... poor lux, you better think about leaving the kingdom or run away to the ruins....

[setsuna86]

Got it. I'll send them now then.

I received them.

[DragonKing0117]

Found an old post that had a basic translation of what the stats were.
asked a tlor just for this lolz
"close combat ability: a+, mobility: a, control: d, long range firepower c+, durability: b, power output: a+
top left and clockwise"
I'll find a way to include them in the page.

[Zakoo]

I'm in real good mood so I will do the divine drag ride, I did my best to stick with setsuna translation but since I didn't read V2 in english right now, not everything is the same swith it to your heart content to make sure we match

Close range fighting potency ( What I would call duelist capacity) : C+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D
Long range fire potency : A+
Resistance/durability : B
Propulsion potency :A

Weapons :
Cannon
Blade
Blaze gun

Type : Flying type

Special armement :
-Seven head dragon ( Seven heads)
An over powered long range cannon composed of 7 muzzles
-airborn fortress ( legion)
Weapons with auto propulsion ability, the maximum amount at the same time is 16

Divine Raiment :
Heavenly Voice
Including yourself, give the ability to control the gravity to the designated field

Arie's report : ( Attention traduction of bold sentence aren't sure)

The divine drag ride of the new kingdom princess
Reflecting her personnality, its abilities are specially directed towards offense. Seeing how much her special armements and divine raiment are strong, it seems highly impossible to dodge everything. The weak point is in the maneuverability, it is very difficult to control and the attrition is very high, the current Risha is unable to use it for long time.



Close range fighting potency : C
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : C+
Long range fire potency : B+
Resistance/durability : C
Propulsion potency :B

Weapons:
Blade
Rifle
Wire tail

Type : Flying Type

Special armements:
-freezing cannon
Ennemy hit by this sniper will be frozen. Normal use is also possible ( unscope in short)
-Auto shield
Seven shield specializing in defense, they react to the ennemies attack and move by themselves.

Divine raiment :

Wise Blood : Ability to see the future in a set period of time. The limit is only a few seconds ahead.

Arie's report
No crack in both offense and defense, such is the divine drag ride of Kurulucifer. Not only the freezing canon and her shield are dangerous but if she were to use her ability to see the future the ennemy stands no chance.
In the case you had to fight against her, even you onii san would have a hard time against her.




Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : A
Maneuverability : D
Long range fire potency : C+
Resistance/durability : B
Propulsion potency : A+

Weapons :
Dagger

Type : Flying type

Special armements :
-Chaos Blade
An enormous black sword. It can even cut a drag ride energy bullet

-Link Burst
Internal type ability
By launching a force field which interferes with the matter around the user, manipulation such as moving little object is possible

Divine raiment :
Fire on Reload
Compressing phenomenon or energy and releasing it stronger just after

Arie's report :

The divine drag ride which is said to be used by the unknown "Black hero". It is said that alone it destroyed in a single night the 1200 drag ride of the Arcadia empire army during the revolution.
The handiness of the divine drag ride is especially difficult, I think the strain on the user is quite the thing.



Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D+
Long range fire potency : D+
Resistance/durability : A
Propulsion potency : B+

Weapons :
Halbarde ( a spear )
Blaze gun
Dagger
Wire tail

Type : ground type

Special weapons

-Devil's glow
Two cannons directly connected to the shoulders of the drag ride
-UNKNOWN

Divine raiment :

-Avesta
UNKNOWN

Ari's report : (pardon this

The divine drag ride of Barezeride kuroisha of the four great family. I hate to say it but the truth is that it's very strong. Each of the basic abilities are quite high and its divine raiment is formidably strong


Now come the divine drag ride you didn't see yet.

Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D+
Long range fire potency : D+
Resistance/durability : A
Propulsion potency : B+

Weapons :
Dagger

Type : Ground type Type

Special armements :
- Pearl Anchor
Launching from varous places, those are wires which capture the ennemy

-Baiting floor
Directly sending energy to make a captured ennemy explodes

Divine raiment :

Missing Fate
Launch a wave in the vicinity which nullifies all the other divine drag ride divine raiment and reduce their propulsion potency ( OP shit)

Firfie is a beast btw

Arie's report :

The divine drag ride used by Firfie, the childhood friend of nii-san. In close range fight, its destructive power is frightful and even at mid range she can pull you to her with her Pearl Anchor, aside extremely far place it is an extremely dangerous opponent. Moreover the way she moves is very irregular, it's the kind of typeI wouldn't want to fight




Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B+
Maneuverability : E+
Long range fire potency : B
Resistance/durability : C+
Propulsion potency : A

Weapons :
Dagger
Blaze gun

Type : flying type

Special armements :

-lightning lance
Because of the electrical choc generated by the piercing attacks of her lance, movements of the opponents and drag ride are scelled

-Starlight Zero
By compressing to the limit all the energy in a single bullet, a devastating and over powered large scale explosion occurs ( i'm sure the attack is this, but the kanji used aren't recognized by my brain)
Because she strain is very violent, if fighting alone the use is limited at two times per day.

Divine raiment :

Divine Gate
An ability which make instant movement possible as long as it is within the field of light deployed.

Arie's report :

the divine drag ride that the strongest of the academy as well as the leader of the knight Serise uses.
Aside her special armement, her long range fighting ability aren't very high, but because of divine gate and the instant movement it doesn't really matter for her. That's unfair. But because the consumption is very high, if other people were to use it they would immediatly runs dry.



Well I never translated and since none english nor japanese are my natural language it went like this in my head japanese => French => English so it may get awkward sometime. Just send PM if the sentence are too weird or if more details are needed.

Let's just say it will make less work for your favorite translator, even if the laboratory takes all my time those are things i can do at least.

[setsuna86]

I'm in real good mood so I will do the divine drag ride, I did my best to stick with setsuna translation but since I didn't read V2 in english right now, not everything is the same swith it to your heart content to make sure we match

Close range fighting potency ( What I would call duelist capacity) : C+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D
Long range fire potency : A+
Resistance/durability : B
Propulsion potency :A

Weapons :
Cannon
Blade
Blaze gun

Type : Flying type

Special armement :
-Seven head dragon ( Seven heads)
An over powered long range cannon composed of 7 muzzles
-airborn fortress ( legion)
Weapons with auto propulsion ability, the maximum amount at the same time is 16

Divine Raiment :
Heavenly Voice
Including yourself, give the ability to control the gravity to the designated field

Arie's report : ( Attention traduction of bold sentence aren't sure)

The divine drag ride of the new kingdom princess
Reflecting her personnality, its abilities are specially directed towards offense. Seeing how much her special armements and divine raiment are strong, it seems highly impossible to dodge everything. The weak point is in the maneuverability, it is very difficult to control and the attrition is very high, the current Risha is unable to use it for long time.



Close range fighting potency : C
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : C+
Long range fire potency : B+
Resistance/durability : C
Propulsion potency :B

Weapons:
Blade
Rifle
Wire tail

Type : Flying Type

Special armements:
-freezing cannon
Ennemy hit by this sniper will be frozen. Normal use is also possible ( unscope in short)
-Auto shield
Seven shield specializing in defense, they react to the ennemies attack and move by themselves.

Divine raiment :

Wise Blood : Ability to see the future in a set period of time. The limit is only a few seconds ahead.

Arie's report
No crack in both offense and defense, such is the divine drag ride of Kurulucifer. Not only the freezing canon and her shield are dangerous but if she were to use her ability to see the future the ennemy stands no chance.
In the case you had to fight against her, even you onii san would have a hard time against her.




Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : A
Maneuverability : D
Long range fire potency : C+
Resistance/durability : B
Propulsion potency : A+

Weapons :
Dagger

Type : Flying type

Special armements :
-Chaos Blade
An enormous black sword. It can even cut a drag ride energy bullet

-Link Burst
Internal type ability
By launching a force field which interferes with the matter around the user, manipulation such as moving little object is possible

Divine raiment :
Fire on Reload
Compressing phenomenon or energy and releasing it stronger just after

Arie's report :

The divine drag ride which is said to be used by the unknown "Black hero". It is said that alone it destroyed in a single night the 1200 drag ride of the Arcadia empire army during the revolution.
The handiness of the divine drag ride is especially difficult, I think the strain on the user is quite the thing.



Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D+
Long range fire potency : D+
Resistance/durability : A
Propulsion potency : B+

Weapons :
Halbarde ( a spear )
Blaze gun
Dagger
Wire tail

Type : ground type

Special weapons

-Devil's glow
Two cannons directly connected to the shoulders of the drag ride
-UNKNOWN

Divine raiment :

-Avesta
UNKNOWN

Ari's report : (pardon this

The divine drag ride of Barezeride kuroisha of the four great family. I hate to say it but the truth is that it's very strong. Each of the basic abilities are quite high and its divine raiment is formidably strong


Now come the divine drag ride you didn't see yet.

Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D+
Long range fire potency : D+
Resistance/durability : A
Propulsion potency : B+

Weapons :
Dagger

Type : Ground type Type

Special armements :
- Pearl Anchor
Launching from varous places, those are wires which capture the ennemy

-Baiting floor
Directly sending energy to make a captured ennemy explodes

Divine raiment :

Missing Fate
Launch a wave in the vicinity which nullifies all the other divine drag ride divine raiment and reduce their propulsion potency ( OP shit)

Firfie is a beast btw

Arie's report :

The divine drag ride used by Firfie, the childhood friend of nii-san. In close range fight, its destructive power is frightful and even at mid range she can pull you to her with her Pearl Anchor, aside extremely far place it is an extremely dangerous opponent. Moreover the way she moves is very irregular, it's the kind of typeI wouldn't want to fight




Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B+
Maneuverability : E+
Long range fire potency : B
Resistance/durability : C+
Propulsion potency : A

Weapons :
Dagger
Blaze gun

Type : flying type

Special armements :

-lightning lance
Because of the electrical choc generated by the piercing attacks of her lance, movements of the opponents and drag ride are scelled

-Starlight Zero
By compressing to the limit all the energy in a single bullet, a devastating and over powered large scale explosion occurs ( i'm sure the attack is this, but the kanji used aren't recognized by my brain)
Because she strain is very violent, if fighting alone the use is limited at two times per day.

Divine raiment :

Divine Gate
An ability which make instant movement possible as long as it is within the field of light deployed.

Arie's report :

the divine drag ride that the strongest of the academy as well as the leader of the knight Serise uses.
Aside her special armement, her long range fighting ability aren't very high, but because of divine gate and the instant movement it doesn't really matter for her. That's unfair. But because the consumption is very high, if other people were to use it they would immediatly runs dry.



Well I never translated and since none english nor japanese are my natural language it went like this in my head japanese => French => English so it may get awkward sometime. Just send PM if the sentence are too weird or if more details are needed.

Let's just say it will make less work for your favorite translator, even if the laboratory takes all my time those are things i can do at least.

Thanks for the help. Now, I'll just translate the first page of Airi's report for each parameter

[Fenrisulfr]

I sent you 3 pms but just to highlight the names:
Pearl Anchor = Pile Anchor
Baiting Floor = Biting Flare
Chaos Blade = Chaos Brand

[digitalak27]

You know, if you think about it Philipe was the first one to kiss Lux. She said it at the end of the first chapter of volume 2.

[cloud04]

so Lindwyrm and Bahamut are somewhat the same?i mean the consumption for both is high

[setsuna86]

so Lindwyrm and Bahamut are somewhat the same?i mean the consumption for both is high

Well, that's right. BTW, it's not Lindwyrm, but Lindwurm.

[Zakoo]

Which make me think that Kurulu indeed have the weakest divine drag ride. With all the chara and possible theory behind her it wouldn't be too weird for her to have a new one or the kakusei form is horribly OP

[belatkuro]

Weakest in terms of specs. The abilities of her Divine Drag are pretty good and in her hands, it's pretty powerful. She just got screwed over Azi Dahaka's abilities.

[XFire]

Weakest in terms of specs. The abilities of her Divine Drag are pretty good and in her hands, it's pretty powerful. She just got screwed over Azi Dahaka's abilities.

Pretty much. Azi Dahka has the best ability so far, it's just that Lux is f***ing LUX so abilities or no he's still the strongest.

[DragonKing0117]

I'm in real good mood so I will do the divine drag ride, I did my best to stick with setsuna translation but since I didn't read V2 in english right now, not everything is the same swith it to your heart content to make sure we match

Close range fighting potency ( What I would call duelist capacity) : C+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D
Long range fire potency : A+
Resistance/durability : B
Propulsion potency :A

Weapons :
Cannon
Blade
Blaze gun

Type : Flying type

Special armement :
-Seven head dragon ( Seven heads)
An over powered long range cannon composed of 7 muzzles
-airborn fortress ( legion)
Weapons with auto propulsion ability, the maximum amount at the same time is 16

Divine Raiment :
Heavenly Voice
Including yourself, give the ability to control the gravity to the designated field

Arie's report : ( Attention traduction of bold sentence aren't sure)

The divine drag ride of the new kingdom princess
Reflecting her personnality, its abilities are specially directed towards offense. Seeing how much her special armements and divine raiment are strong, it seems highly impossible to dodge everything. The weak point is in the maneuverability, it is very difficult to control and the attrition is very high, the current Risha is unable to use it for long time.



Close range fighting potency : C
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : C+
Long range fire potency : B+
Resistance/durability : C
Propulsion potency :B

Weapons:
Blade
Rifle
Wire tail

Type : Flying Type

Special armements:
-freezing cannon
Ennemy hit by this sniper will be frozen. Normal use is also possible ( unscope in short)
-Auto shield
Seven shield specializing in defense, they react to the ennemies attack and move by themselves.

Divine raiment :

Wise Blood : Ability to see the future in a set period of time. The limit is only a few seconds ahead.

Arie's report
No crack in both offense and defense, such is the divine drag ride of Kurulucifer. Not only the freezing canon and her shield are dangerous but if she were to use her ability to see the future the ennemy stands no chance.
In the case you had to fight against her, even you onii san would have a hard time against her.




Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : A
Maneuverability : D
Long range fire potency : C+
Resistance/durability : B
Propulsion potency : A+

Weapons :
Dagger

Type : Flying type

Special armements :
-Chaos Blade
An enormous black sword. It can even cut a drag ride energy bullet

-Link Burst
Internal type ability
By launching a force field which interferes with the matter around the user, manipulation such as moving little object is possible

Divine raiment :
Fire on Reload
Compressing phenomenon or energy and releasing it stronger just after

Arie's report :

The divine drag ride which is said to be used by the unknown "Black hero". It is said that alone it destroyed in a single night the 1200 drag ride of the Arcadia empire army during the revolution.
The handiness of the divine drag ride is especially difficult, I think the strain on the user is quite the thing.



Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D+
Long range fire potency : D+
Resistance/durability : A
Propulsion potency : B+

Weapons :
Halbarde ( a spear )
Blaze gun
Dagger
Wire tail

Type : ground type

Special weapons

-Devil's glow
Two cannons directly connected to the shoulders of the drag ride
-UNKNOWN

Divine raiment :

-Avesta
UNKNOWN

Ari's report : (pardon this

The divine drag ride of Barezeride kuroisha of the four great family. I hate to say it but the truth is that it's very strong. Each of the basic abilities are quite high and its divine raiment is formidably strong


Now come the divine drag ride you didn't see yet.

Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B
Maneuverability : D+
Long range fire potency : D+
Resistance/durability : A
Propulsion potency : B+

Weapons :
Dagger

Type : Ground type Type

Special armements :
- Pearl Anchor
Launching from varous places, those are wires which capture the ennemy

-Baiting floor
Directly sending energy to make a captured ennemy explodes

Divine raiment :

Missing Fate
Launch a wave in the vicinity which nullifies all the other divine drag ride divine raiment and reduce their propulsion potency ( OP shit)

Firfie is a beast btw

Arie's report :

The divine drag ride used by Firfie, the childhood friend of nii-san. In close range fight, its destructive power is frightful and even at mid range she can pull you to her with her Pearl Anchor, aside extremely far place it is an extremely dangerous opponent. Moreover the way she moves is very irregular, it's the kind of typeI wouldn't want to fight




Close range fighting potency: A+
Mobility : B+
Maneuverability : E+
Long range fire potency : B
Resistance/durability : C+
Propulsion potency : A

Weapons :
Dagger
Blaze gun

Type : flying type

Special armements :

-lightning lance
Because of the electrical choc generated by the piercing attacks of her lance, movements of the opponents and drag ride are scelled

-Starlight Zero
By compressing to the limit all the energy in a single bullet, a devastating and over powered large scale explosion occurs ( i'm sure the attack is this, but the kanji used aren't recognized by my brain)
Because she strain is very violent, if fighting alone the use is limited at two times per day.

Divine raiment :

Divine Gate
An ability which make instant movement possible as long as it is within the field of light deployed.

Arie's report :

the divine drag ride that the strongest of the academy as well as the leader of the knight Serise uses.
Aside her special armement, her long range fighting ability aren't very high, but because of divine gate and the instant movement it doesn't really matter for her. That's unfair. But because the consumption is very high, if other people were to use it they would immediatly runs dry.



Well I never translated and since none english nor japanese are my natural language it went like this in my head japanese => French => English so it may get awkward sometime. Just send PM if the sentence are too weird or if more details are needed.

Let's just say it will make less work for your favorite translator, even if the laboratory takes all my time those are things i can do at least.

Thank you for the help.

Well, that's right. BTW, it's not Lindwyrm, but Lindwurm.

Isn't it Lindworm? Seeing as they're using the actual names of various dragons?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindworm

[Zakoo]

No problem but be careful I got some failure as people noticed it. Especially in chaos blade, i was kind of sure it was this while it's called chaos brand, should have watched the kanji more carefully itstead of going foolishly into the katakana.

[setsuna86]

Thank you for the help.



Isn't it Lindworm? Seeing as they're using the actual names of various dragons?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindworm

Based on the katakana, it's Lindwurm. And Lindwurm is the german of Lindworm, so you can say it's basically the same.
But I'll use Lindwurm (as it is based on katakana).

[bnguyen14]

I am gonna love volume 5 when setsuna find the time to translate it. I love the cover.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0DKi53CMAAj95c.jpg:large Kurulucifer's toughest rival?

[kazzuya]

I wonder if Leviathan and Kagustuchi will be introduce.

[DragonKing0117]

I am gonna love volume 5 when setsuna find the time to translate it. I love the cover.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0DKi53CMAAj95c.jpg:large Kurulucifer's toughest rival?

I didn't realize it before, but she's got heterochromia! Going by appearance alone, she already looks like she'll debunk Kurulucifer from best girl. (Of course it doesn't matter to me because those two and the other cover girls all MY best girls and I won't let anyone take them! ;))

On the same note but different aspect, Kurulucifer doesn't really have any competition you know.

Lisha gets blocked by EVERYONE whenever she tries for Lux. :heh:
Philphie doesn't seem to be aggressively vying for the position.
Blondie was shy around men to the point of being labled a man hater if I remember correctly.

Kurulucifer may actually get competition this coming volume.

EDIT: On another note this reminds me of that saying, "Once you go black, you never, go back." :heh:

[bnguyen14]

I didn't realize it before, but she's got heterochromia! Going by appearance alone, she already looks like she'll debunk Kurulucifer from best girl. (Of course it doesn't matter to me because those two and the other cover girls all MY best girls and I won't let anyone take them! ;))

On the same note but different aspect, Kurulucifer doesn't really have any competition you know.

Lisha gets blocked by EVERYONE whenever she tries for Lux. :heh:
Philphie doesn't seem to be aggressively vying for the position.
Blondie was shy around men to the point of being labled a man hater if I remember correctly.

Kurulucifer may actually get competition this coming volume.

True true, the new girl seem to have the attitude to put up a fight. Actually, I really like her design. :love:

[bakato]

I didn't realize it before, but she's got heterochromia! Going by appearance alone, she already looks like she'll debunk Kurulucifer from best girl. (Of course it doesn't matter to me because those two and the other cover girls all MY best girls and I won't let anyone take them! ;))

On the same note but different aspect, Kurulucifer doesn't really have any competition you know.

Lisha gets blocked by EVERYONE whenever she tries for Lux. :heh:
Philphie doesn't seem to be aggressively vying for the position.
Blondie was shy around men to the point of being labled a man hater if I remember correctly.

Kurulucifer may actually get competition this coming volume.

EDIT: On another note this reminds me of that saying, "Once you go black, you never, go back." :heh:

True true, the new girl seem to have the attitude to put up a fight. Actually, I really like her design. :love:

I thought it was just her hair in the way, but heterochromia, too!? She's hit ALL my weak points.

[bnguyen14]

New ship alliance has been establish.

Member:
bnguyen14
DragonKing0117
bakato

[DragonKing0117]

I thought it was just her hair in the way, but heterochromia, too!? She's hit ALL my weak points.

Those wouldn't happen to include these would they?:
The color black
Twin-tails
Heterochromia
Yamato Nadeshiko
Zettai Ryouikki
Katanas
A color scheme that works well with the MC
Having bigger boobs than Kurulucifer


EDIT:New ship alliance has been establish.

Member:
bnguyen14
DragonKing0117
bakato
HEY! I never said I was on board! :frustrated:
Yet. :cool:

[bakato]

Those wouldn't happen to include these would they?:
The color black
Twin-tails
Heterochromia
Yamato Nadeshiko
Zettai Ryouikki
Katanas
A color scheme that works well with the MC
Having bigger boobs than Kurulucifer


I already listed them before.

This new girl hits all my weak points.

1. For starters, her chest is bigger the Kuru's.
2. I've always been a sucker for those sexy kimonos that not only emphasize an hourglass figure, but also look elegant.
3. I've really taken to twintails since that twintail anime, the illustrator of which is coincidentally the same as this series'.

But yours too. Except for Yamato Nadeshiko. In my book these girls have long hair like Miyuki from Mahouka.

[bnguyen14]

Hey there, why are you fighting over my waifu? First come first serve.....wait, does that mean Lux already have her? DAMN ITTTTTTTTTT

[DragonKing0117]

Hey there, why are you fighting over my waifu? First come first serve.....wait, does that mean Lux already have her? DAMN ITTTTTTTTTT

No, it means I already made like Red and caught every best girl there ever was. Harem MCs got nothing on me.

But yours too. Except for Yamato Nadeshiko. In my book these girls have long hair like Miyuki from Mahouka.

Can't Yamato Nadeshiko have long hair, or am I mistaken?

[bnguyen14]

No, it means I already made like Red and caught every best girl there ever was. Harem MCs got nothing on me.

I am in the process of making myself, Bnguyen14 original signature and well...she probably gonna be on it :naughty:

[digitalak27]

I honestly think Kurulu has more chemistry with Lux than anyone else. How do I know? My anime soul tells me so! TEAM KURULU UNITE!!!!!!

[dont_play_never_lose]

I honestly think Kurulu has more chemistry with Lux than anyone else. How do I know? My anime soul tells me so! TEAM KURULU UNITE!!!!!!

Wrong, the little sister go him. Completely. Team Imouto!!!!

[DragonKing0117]

Brace yourselves...
The ship wars are coming...

[XFire]

Brace yourselves...
The ship wars are coming...

Are you kidding? Shipping wars are my stress relief.

[Ravagerblade]

After reading the Airi side story and even the first two volumes, I'd have to say Airi is an arrogant jealous little b*tch of a sister, always calling Lux useless without her, she's so damn spoiled even with her situation. Try putting yourself in your brothers shoes for once.

Lux may be naïve about some things but he's way better than his sister so far.

[digitalak27]

After reading the Airi side story and even the first two volumes, I'd have to say Airi is an arrogant jealous little b*tch of a sister, always calling Lux useless without her, she's so damn spoiled even with her situation. Try putting yourself in your brothers shoes for once.

Lux may be naïve about some things but he's way better than his sister so far.

Well I'm glad that you didn't even include all the parts where Airi was helping Lux in her own way, you know like collecting data of his battles and constantly thinking of ways for him to be.............. Oh I don't know, safe? Yea that's the word and all sarcasm aside, I see where your coming from but think about it, Lux is her only family left and so its going to be obvious that she'll get annoyed when he places himself in dangerous situations. Also I don't know how you think that she's spoiled, its been establish that the siblings are getting screwed by the new empire.

[ZeKeR]

I say... new girl's probably gonna outmatch Kuru in terms of trolling... heck, its probably gonna evolve to ero-trolling and I think she'll be the second one to kiss him... in front of the girls... a very deep one (btw can anyone speculate their reactions should they see some girl they arent familiar with doing that which they long to do?)

[senjiro]

Lol i imagine that, new girl kiss him in front of all of them, kuru making a little smile meaning bring it on, challenge acepted.
Rest of them the same face as lizhe when she saw kurulu kiss.
After that? All put in dragon mode and ragnarok begin. While airi scold lux in a corner...

[bakato]

Can't Yamato Nadeshiko have long hair, or am I mistaken?

I meant that Yoruko here wouldn't count as a Yamato Nadeshiko because in my book they have long, STRAIGHT hair like Miyuki from Mahouka and they have a sort of responsible, older sister-like vibe. Yoruko's twintails, which as I said I'm a fan of, unfortunately works against her in this regard.

[SineMora]

brace yourselves...
The ship wars are coming...

it's on!

+1 to yoruko ship!

[DragonKing0117]

I meant that Yoruko here wouldn't count as a Yamato Nadeshiko because in my book they have long, STRAIGHT hair like Miyuki from Mahouka and they have a sort of responsible, older sister-like vibe. Yoruko's twintails, which as I said I'm a fan of, unfortunately works against her in this regard.
1. She does have straight hair, and people with twin-tails normally have straight hair anyway.
2. The little sister vibe part is understandable since I believe the majority are older sister like or only children. However there are ALWAYS exceptions.

[Zakoo]

After reading the Airi side story and even the first two volumes, I'd have to say Airi is an arrogant jealous little b*tch of a sister, always calling Lux useless without her, she's so damn spoiled even with her situation. Try putting yourself in your brothers shoes for once.

Lux may be naïve about some things but he's way better than his sister so far.

Actually :

She is tsun tsun to no end on her brother, she is well aware that if he hadn't done the coup d'état the empire would have only used her. And by using her we all understand what it means since her sole value was being a woman. She is very grateful to her brother to what he did for her but it's too embarassing to say it "now" after 5 years being separated away.


The spoil is for sure since she says it herself later. I have my own theory which also says that since her body is very frail, it was impossible for her to travel with her brother around the world while searching for Fugil. Let alone possibly being targeted by assassins (after all, it's not like they have OVERLY outstanding features like silver hair). Hence the whole show about them becoming dogs of the new kingdom : at least she had a place to stay more or less at peace.

She is also well aware of the last part of my second paragraph ( the fact her brother shouldered everything while she lived the life of an ojou-sama, true she killed herself at night to translate things but this is nowhere near Lux), and again is very gratful, she simply can't say it to her brother by fear of burdening even more.

How do they say in japan ? Oh yeah, the heart of a woman is something ununderstandable by a man.

Now on a side note, because the whole Yoruko vs Kurulu is funny for me, I do wonder how the book will be done, will they fight each other or will they team up? Because so far only Kurulu had the honor of not fighting Lux and went straight for the pair up.

[senjiro]

Regards airi, i said she was a little tsun. And obvious she get the better deal as ojousama(wich is even better how she was treated in old empire) clear lux was not to allow airi doing nasty things(as him) but the way she treat him(so far 2 vol) is a little off, if notice they are the only fámily each other have.(she cares about him, but sometimes only for scold him).
At the end she fit in tsundere imouto who brag and scold her oniichan as proof of her care...

Ship?
+1 for kurulu, phi-chan and new girl...
I think lizhe is going pester the principal for not allowing more lover request for lux(she is princess for something not?), if not i can see all the girls requesting one week as lovers...

[DragonKing0117]

You kinda have to feel sorry for Lisha. I mean, no matter what she does in trying to advance her relationship with Lux, she gets blocked. Even Philphie has blocked her, and heaven knows what she's trying to do half the time. :heh:

[Y Ddraig Goch]

So far the harem's composed of Lisha, Kuru, Phiphie and the strongest third year. Does Airi count?

[Zakoo]

Of course not. She is jalous of having her dear brother taken by other girls (she is well aware of the girls's feeling unlike her brother) but nothing more.

You kinda have to feel sorry for Lisha. I mean, no matter what she does in trying to advance her relationship with Lux, she gets blocked. Even Philphie has blocked her, and heaven knows what she's trying to do half the time.

Give Setsuna 2 months and you will see.

[bakato]

1. She does have straight hair, and people with twin-tails normally have straight hair anyway.
2. The little sister vibe part is understandable since I believe the majority are older sister like or only children. However there are ALWAYS exceptions.

When I say straight hair, I literally mean wearing their hair straight and not tying them up.

Tvtropes explains it better.

With some notable exceptions, yamato nadeshiko will be of medium height, willowy, modestly endowed, and good-looking without being too beautiful or too cute; they will have pale skin and long dark hair with full, straight bangs and side-bangs.

As for twintails:

Used as a visual clue that the character is young or immature.
If an older woman is trying to disguise herself as a child, expect her to sport pigtails. Also can be found on an older woman if the writers want the audience to grasp that she's child-like in temperament: playful, fun, and possibly innocent. (If the character is evil, this may indicate that she is a Psychopathic Womanchild to some degree.)

By definition, a twintailed character can never be a yamato nadeshiko. It just doesn't work. Twintails express cuteness while a yamato nadeshiko is defined by maturity.

So far the harem's composed of Lisha, Kuru, Phiphie and the strongest third year. Does Airi count?

What kind of question is that?

[cloud04]

When I say straight hair, I literally mean wearing their hair straight and not tying them up.

Tvtropes explains it better.



As for twintails:



By definition, a twintailed character can never be a yamato nadeshiko. It just doesn't work. Twintails express cuteness while a yamato nadeshiko is defined by maturity.



What kind of question is that?

sister is always there XD

[akim36]

sister is always there XD

whether he likes it or not :D

[ZeKeR]

but afaik nobody has ever beaten Kuru's multi-kiss with him yet and if the whole academy finds out (I'm sure Relie will make that so once she finds out and will agitate the girls), the second Battle for Lux begins and its gonna make the first one just a mere child's play.

[DragonKing0117]

By definition, a twintailed character can never be a yamato nadeshiko. It just doesn't work. Twintails express cuteness while a yamato nadeshiko is defined by maturity.

I beg your pardon? From Doraemon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Doraemon) under the main five folder. It's the third character listed.Shizuka Minamoto (Sue)
Voiced by: Masako Ebisu (1973), Michiko Nomura (1979 - 2005), Yumi Kakazu (2005 - ) (Japanese), Cassandra Lee (English)
The local Love Interest who is popular among every boy in town. Has stereotypical Yamato Nadeshiko characteristic of kind, caring, and feminine. Perhaps the only flaw about her is her dreadful violin skills. She loves bathing.
Beware the Nice Ones
Brainy Brunette
Censor Steam: Whenever she takes a bath.
Characterization Marches On: In the start of the story, Shizuka mostly laugh at Nobita and hardly believes him. Notable in the first Doraemon Long Story that at start she laugh at Nobita for telling that he has dinosaur as a pet but later she believes him.
The Chick
Closer to Earth
Dreadful Violinist: The sound she produces with her violin is the only thing rivals Giant's singing voice in destructive power.
Girlish Pigtails
Girl Next Door
House Wife: In the future. Ironically, several chapters and episode has her stated that she want to be either air hostess or kindergarten teacher.
Innocently Insensitive: Her actions sometimes do Nobita more harm than good, albeit unwittingly.
Ms. Fanservice: And this is supposed to be a children's series...
Innocent Fanservice Girl: Briefly fooled by a robot into walking outside nude.
Panty Shot: Too often to count.
Bathtub Scene: Became a lampshaded Running Gag later on.
Stripperific: Suneo designs a costume for her and comes up with this. Shizuka doesn't take it well.
Nice Girl
Official Couple: With Nobita, yes, they proved it with Time Travel.
Pink Means Feminine: Her pink dress.
The Smurfette Principle
Token Good Teammate: Out of the main characters. Along with Doraemon, arguably.
Tomboy and GirlyGirl: A Girly Girl to any of the Female characters' Tomboy.
Yamato Nadeshiko

This is her. http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_78137.jpg

[hitotake]

http://i.imgur.com/r7czvIY.jpg
isn't she is the girl on the cover of vol 5 ?
that smile seems evil one, kurumi? :heh:

[NovelReader]

http://i.imgur.com/r7czvIY.jpg
isn't she is the girl on the cover of vol 5 ?
that smile seems evil one, kurumi? :heh:

Yes she is.
Does anyone know when vol 5 comes out?

[hitotake]

Does anyone know when vol 5 comes out?
ah thanks :D
from amazon jp , seems december
http://www.amazon.co.jp/【Amazon-co-jp限定】最弱無敗の神装機竜《バハムート》5-書き下ろし4PリーフレットSS付き-GA文庫-明月-千里/dp/4797377631/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0PKR3G3NHKBDKDQ9DEQA

[NovelReader]

ah thanks :D
from amazon jp , seems december
http://www.amazon.co.jp/【Amazon-co-jp限定】最弱無敗の神装機竜《バハムート》5-書き下ろし4PリーフレットSS付き-GA文庫-明月-千里/dp/4797377631/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0PKR3G3NHKBDKDQ9DEQA

Bleh long wait I guess. Will just deal with narou novels for now.

[Zakoo]

I'm kind of searching another LN right now too, I won't have anything between Altina 07 and saijaku 05. We should do a LN advise thread since we have heavy japanese readers.

[digitalak27]

I'm kind of searching another LN right now too, I won't have anything between Altina 07 and saijaku 05. We should do a LN advise thread since we have heavy japanese readers.

Try gakusen toshi asterisk. It's another another novel done by setsuna.

[senjiro]

I'm kind of searching another LN right now too, I won't have anything between Altina 07 and saijaku 05. We should do a LN advise thread since we have heavy japanese readers.

Gakusen toshi
Unbreakable machine doll
Táte no yuusha,
Mushoku tensei this is true harem, reicarnate máge.
Danmachi
Oredorei
Ufff i dunno what you like, gakusen is being tl for setsuna too. And is harem battle.
Rakudai kishi.
There are a lot of ln ...
my top arifureta.

[zerodragon]

I am gonna love volume 5 when setsuna find the time to translate it. I love the cover.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0DKi53CMAAj95c.jpg:large Kurulucifer's toughest rival?

well call me impressed, this is the first girl out of this LN i find really nice to look at. the only other girl i like so far is the childhood friend, for some reason the other don't do it for me:heh:

[techblade]

Girls that wear black kimonos are considered evil which I like!! Especially if they end up going after the MC in the end.

[bnguyen14]

well call me impressed, this is the first girl out of this LN i find really nice to look at. the only other girl i like so far is the childhood friend, for some reason the other don't do it for me:heh:

Honestly, they look really good together xD those eyes. The new Absolute Duo? ;)

I still can't get over the fact that I love her design. Due to katana, long black hair, presumably strong personality, with lots of confident, she would look good in a kimono :heh:. My type of girl. WHY CAN'T 2D BE REAL?!?!

[NovelReader]

I'm kind of searching another LN right now too, I won't have anything between Altina 07 and saijaku 05. We should do a LN advise thread since we have heavy japanese readers.

I'm planning on reading sekai no owari encore since vol 2 is coming out soon...but college classes are killing me....so probably planning on read those 2+saijaku 5 and rakudai 6 if it comes out soon during winter break :D

[Jirachier]

So I just finished reading volume 2 and a few spoilers here in there way before, and I've got to say I'm quite sad about something.

When I start following a series, be it a manga, light novel, anime or a tv series I always do a little research to know what it's about, mostly I just read the synopsis and a few people's opinion and when I read that the protagonist of Saijaku Muhai no Bahamaut defeated his country's army on his own, an army made of 1200 drag-knights, and all this at this age of 12 and he was hailed as the strongest, I thought to myself this is so awesome.
But just like with many other series my expectations get destroyed every time the premise is about someone so powerful.
In the first volume he fought the equivalent of 100 drag-knights(I don't remember the exact number) yet he was bedridden for a while, this is a guy who at the age of 12 destroyed 1200 drag-knights, that's like 10% of it. If someone has X amount of stamina and using all of it completely will make you die/bedridden then there is absolutely no way that using only 10% of it will do ANYTHING to you, if he was fighting like 600+ I may understand but come on, and he's supposed to be even more skilled right now.
In this series, I don't know how old are the oldest drag-knights but I'm gonna assume that they're at least up to 30 years old, so normally the most powerful ones will be the ones at that AGE and possessing the highest degree of talent, teenagers won't be appearing everywhere at the highest level of ability comparable to the absolute strongest because normally the ones at the top have equal amount of talent but MUCH more experience and time to train, yet in here the author just spams teenage girls with the highest level of strength, you might argue that Lux is also strong but that's the thing, he is the protagonist, the supposed "exception to the rule", kind of like Matrix, you can't make several people on that level and except it to make sense or be any fun.
There is the 3rd year strongest in the academy, Kurulucifer(Airi notes in the description of Fafnir that even Lux will have trouble against her), the girl in volume 4 might even be better than Lux according to his imouto. This is a guy who defeated over a thousand drag-knight, an entire country's army on his own, it should take several of the strongest divine drag-knights combined to fight him on equal footing. Any argument like maybe the 1200 that he fought were weak or whatever is not plausible because the country actually fell, the defeat of those 1200 drag-knights was crucial to this, the people at the top aren't gonna be like "let's send the 1200 weakest most incompetent guys we have and once they lose we will surrender the country".

I am not saying the series is bad, on the contrary it is very good. I just wish authors would stop lying about the level of strength a protagonist has and expect us to ignore their explicit statement and just go with it, if your protagonist is THE strongest, and in this case by A LARGE margin, at least that's what the premise leads you to believe then you better make him that strong and throughout the entire series. There are many series where protagonists start off at the bottom of the food chain and get stronger over time and I love them too except I don't get lied to so my expectations are set to that level, I know what I'm reading. Authors shouldn't tell someone who's a fan of overpowered characters that the protagonist is the strongest then proceed to destroy his little dream.

[Zakoo]

Wow you wrote so much with so few blank I don't even know where I should answer.

About the first remark, I do understand where it comes from but here is the tricky part : Bahamut wasn't repaired after the battle 5 years ago. Arie did some maintenance but this can't be called as "repaired", it was a drag night barely usable thus the burden on the user was especially great.
We also got the fact that Lux didn't use his divine drag ride for 5 years. To do an analogy, even after a 5 years break, even the strongest dude in any sports isn't a the top of its peak. Expect some muscular pains.

Now second part, 5 years before women weren't even allowed to use drag ride, thus it was unknown at how much strong they were. Now we know they are stronger than men, the sole reason they are considered as "equal" is because the men have more experiences, but give those girls 4 years and they certainly are stronger than them.

In short the important point here isn't :"the hero is as OP as the others girls", No, the whole story is "the hero is a man and is more OP than women while he shouldn't be thus there's something wrong here." Lux by very definition shouldn't be that strong, if he is, there's a whole story behind and it will be a main plot, what were the Acadia? Authors aren't stupid, you don't write things like "any blood related member of the Acadia family has silver hair" (> implying something is special about them otherwise it's strictly impossible to maintain over long duration such phenotype) without any second thoughts.

As i said it's still volume 2, wait volume 4 girls, the story is unveiled a bit.

[Jirachier]

Bahamut wasn't repaired after the battle 5 years ago. Arie did some maintenance but this can't be called as "repaired", it was a drag night barely usable thus the burden on the user was especially great.

Was that explicitly stated ? Because if the author did not mention it I personally have no way of coming to that conclusion to excuse Lux's current level of power.

We also got the fact that Lux didn't use his divine drag ride for 5 years.


I don't remember if it was in volume 1 or 2 but It was stated that he didn't have "many" opportunities to use it, not none.

To do an analogy, even after a 5 years break, even the strongest dude in any sports isn't a the top of its peak. Expect some muscular pains.

If someone had a certain level of strength and reduced the amount of training he did for 5 years, his strength is might go down by as far as half, not 90%.

Now second part, 5 years before women weren't even allowed to use drag ride, thus it was unknown at how much strong they were. Now we know they are stronger than men, the sole reason they are considered as "equal" is because the men have more experiences, but give those girls 4 years and they certainly are stronger than them.

That's only valid for his own empire isn't ? In the other countries female were drag-knights for a long time. And that's the thing even if you assume that on average a single female is worth 2 males for example then you can say he defeated 600 female drag-knights which is still huge.

In short the important point here isn't :"the hero is as OP as the others girls", No, the whole story is "the hero is a man and is more OP than women while he shouldn't be thus there's something wrong here." Lux by very definition shouldn't be that strong, if he is, there's a whole story behind and it will be a main plot, what were the Acadia? Authors aren't stupid, you don't write things like "any blood related member of the Acadia family has silver hair" (> implying something is special about them otherwise it's strictly impossible to maintain over long duration such phenotype) without any second thoughts.

Yes that is what the story turns out to be, I'm not refuting that. My point was the author makes you think you're reading one thing but ends up being something different.

[Zakoo]

About women we do not know about the others countries indeed ...

As for Bahamut :

“I ‘ve already finished the output adjustment of that Machine Dragon. It has to the bitter end been analyzed by me who’s still studying, but… I cannot guarantee more than ten minutes…”

In short we have a machine that can barely work for 10 minutes while he used it during one night 5 years ago, I'm not engineer, but I understand it the way I wrote it.
What was said in V2 is that he did odds job about covering ruins, but it was using his wyvern.

If someone had a certain level of strength and reduced the amount of training he did for 5 years, his strength is might go down by as far as half, not 90%.

I really wonder about that. It goes from being able to do a marathon to simply not being able to run 5 km.

[Jirachier]

About women we do not know about the others countries indeed ...

As for Bahamut :



In short we have a machine that can barely work for 10 minutes while he used it during one night 5 years ago, I'm not engineer, but I understand it the way I wrote it.

What was said in V2 is that he did odds job about covering ruins, but it was using his wyvern.

Ths is only about operational time, right ?
But if you want to fend off an army of 1200 drag-knights you need both the operational time to survive for a long time AND the skill to fight them SIMULTANEOUSLY, so if only his operational time is affected by this, then he should be able to display the same level of might expect it only lasts 10 minutes, aka the level of strength to fight 1200 drag-knights for 10 minutes which he hasn't shown.

Something else to keep in mind, these 1200 drag-knights were an extremely important part of the country's military, if all the girls being introduced as as good as the protagonist then other countries must have a few people on that level too right ? Then how come the other countries that allowed women to be drag-knights let the old empire live for so long if the level of skill Lux has is emulated by at least a few individuals in every country, why not send like 4-5 girls on the level of Lux and crush the country.

[Zakoo]

Who knows ? Maybe because they don't have the same amount of divine drag ride maybe ? And even if the capital army is getting down doesn't mean the border army (the front) goes down too for example.

On the 7 ruins, 3 are on the empire, it's not even known if all the ruins appeared, and even if they did appear, maybe they aren't as "inoffensive" as the garden ( ie garden is the ruin most discovered in V2, therefore doing the hypothesis that most of the drag ride come from there isn't false) thus leading in the situation where conquering a ruin is an impossible task, hence not having many machine and even less the rare one : the divine.

Indeed the girls are stronger than men, but the differences in aptitude only shows once using divine drag ride when the usury is strong, on normal drag ride it's a whole different matter.

I mean we barely have 4 novels ( and in your case 2), you can't expect both geo political explications of the past and current situation, character developpment, plot, drama and romance at the same time in 270 pages of moonrunes (which in short make less than 270 pages), that's impossibru.

[laon]

Someone thought that Lux isn't OP enough?

Wow and I thought that he's almost at Kirito level at asspulling deus ex machina.

[bakato]

So I just finished reading volume 2 and a few spoilers here in there way before, and I've got to say I'm quite sad about something.

When I start following a series, be it a manga, light novel, anime or a tv series I always do a little research to know what it's about, mostly I just read the synopsis and a few people's opinion and when I read that the protagonist of Saijaku Muhai no Bahamaut defeated his country's army on his own, an army made of 1200 drag-knights, and all this at this age of 12 and he was hailed as the strongest, I thought to myself this is so awesome.
But just like with many other series my expectations get destroyed every time the premise is about someone so powerful.
In the first volume he fought the equivalent of 100 drag-knights(I don't remember the exact number) yet he was bedridden for a while, this is a guy who at the age of 12 destroyed 1200 drag-knights, that's like 10% of it. If someone has X amount of stamina and using all of it completely will make you die/bedridden then there is absolutely no way that using only 10% of it will do ANYTHING to you, if he was fighting like 600+ I may understand but come on, and he's supposed to be even more skilled right now.
In this series, I don't know how old are the oldest drag-knights but I'm gonna assume that they're at least up to 30 years old, so normally the most powerful ones will be the ones at that AGE and possessing the highest degree of talent, teenagers won't be appearing everywhere at the highest level of ability comparable to the absolute strongest because normally the ones at the top have equal amount of talent but MUCH more experience and time to train, yet in here the author just spams teenage girls with the highest level of strength, you might argue that Lux is also strong but that's the thing, he is the protagonist, the supposed "exception to the rule", kind of like Matrix, you can't make several people on that level and except it to make sense or be any fun.
There is the 3rd year strongest in the academy, Kurulucifer(Airi notes in the description of Fafnir that even Lux will have trouble against her), the girl in volume 4 might even be better than Lux according to his imouto. This is a guy who defeated over a thousand drag-knight, an entire country's army on his own, it should take several of the strongest divine drag-knights combined to fight him on equal footing. Any argument like maybe the 1200 that he fought were weak or whatever is not plausible because the country actually fell, the defeat of those 1200 drag-knights was crucial to this, the people at the top aren't gonna be like "let's send the 1200 weakest most incompetent guys we have and once they lose we will surrender the country".

I am not saying the series is bad, on the contrary it is very good. I just wish authors would stop lying about the level of strength a protagonist has and expect us to ignore their explicit statement and just go with it, if your protagonist is THE strongest, and in this case by A LARGE margin, at least that's what the premise leads you to believe then you better make him that strong and throughout the entire series. There are many series where protagonists start off at the bottom of the food chain and get stronger over time and I love them too except I don't get lied to so my expectations are set to that level, I know what I'm reading. Authors shouldn't tell someone who's a fan of overpowered characters that the protagonist is the strongest then proceed to destroy his little dream.


Alright, you've gotta get your numbers right.

1. He destroyed 1200 drag-knights without killing them and that knocked him out for a month. Here, he disarmed 100 and got off with a day. I'd call that a pretty big difference.
2. Not talent. Age only gives you experience and there's also aptitude values. The antagonist of volume 1 also knew a technique that Lux invented that beat Lisha. None of these girls are nearly as accomplished as Lux and his fights have shown him to be in a league of his own, defeating opponents the girls struggled with all on his own.
3. Celestia is older than Lux so it's reasonable to say that he'd be stronger if he was as old as her, but don't forget to factor in her cheat ability.

If you wanna call bullshit on something, call it on the idiot of an architect that lead to a bath house roof collapsing under the wight of one adolescent boy, a bag of panties, and a cat.

Wow you wrote so much with so few blank I don't even know where I should answer.

About the first remark, I do understand where it comes from but here is the tricky part : Bahamut wasn't repaired after the battle 5 years ago. Arie did some maintenance but this can't be called as "repaired", it was a drag night barely usable thus the burden on the user was especially great.
We also got the fact that Lux didn't use his divine drag ride for 5 years. To do an analogy, even after a 5 years break, even the strongest dude in any sports isn't a the top of its peak. Expect some muscular pains.

Now second part, 5 years before women weren't even allowed to use drag ride, thus it was unknown at how much strong they were. Now we know they are stronger than men, the sole reason they are considered as "equal" is because the men have more experiences, but give those girls 4 years and they certainly are stronger than them.

In short the important point here isn't :"the hero is as OP as the others girls", No, the whole story is "the hero is a man and is more OP than women while he shouldn't be thus there's something wrong here." Lux by very definition shouldn't be that strong, if he is, there's a whole story behind and it will be a main plot, what were the Acadia? Authors aren't stupid, you don't write things like "any blood related member of the Acadia family has silver hair" (> implying something is special about them otherwise it's strictly impossible to maintain over long duration such phenotype) without any second thoughts.

As i said it's still volume 2, wait volume 4 girls, the story is unveiled a bit.

Being rusty isn't possible. Have you forgotten Lux has been competing in tournaments against other drag-knights with a wyvern and winning in spite of never attacking with a handicap? He's been training himself this whole time for the inevitable battle against his brother.

[Jirachier]

Who knows ? Maybe because they don't have the same amount of divine drag ride maybe ? And even if the capital army is getting down doesn't mean the border army (the front) goes down too for example.

Lux fought the army in the capital, which is the most important location in any country, no one will surround their base with the weakest of their forces.
If the military strength of your capital is only at that level then your borders aren't going to be any better.

On the 7 ruins, 3 are on the empire, it's not even known if all the ruins appeared, and even if they did appear, maybe they aren't as "inoffensive" as the garden ( ie garden is the ruin most discovered in V2, therefore doing the hypothesis that most of the drag ride come from there isn't false) thus leading in the situation where conquering a ruin is an impossible task, hence not having many machine and even less the rare one : the divine.

Even if they don't have as many divine drag-knights, if there is truly others at the same skill level as Lux then sending a handful of people is more than enough to conquer the former empire.

Indeed the girls are stronger than men, but the differences in aptitude only shows once using divine drag ride when the usury is strong, on normal drag ride it's a whole different matter.

I mean we barely have 4 novels ( and in your case 2), you can't expect both geo political explications of the past and current situation, character developpment, plot, drama and romance at the same time in 270 pages of moonrunes (which in short make less than 270 pages), that's impossibru.

Yes we can't except to know everything, but some things are very obvious if you think about it.

1. He destroyed 1200 drag-knights without killing them and that knocked him out for a month. Here, he disarmed 100 and got off with a day. I'd call that a pretty big difference.

Stamina doesn't work that way. Let's say you're a human and you have X amount of stamina, if you use your entire stamina you can cross Y distance but you'll immediately pass out because you'd have exhausted ALL of your stamina. If the same person uses his stamina and crosses Y/10 distance then he won't pass out because he used a VERY low amount of his stamina. Following that reasoning if Lux uses Bahamut for 20 seconds he has to pass out for like an hour, that makes no sense, logically there is a threshold and only after exceeding do you start passing out, the more you exceed it the longer you pass out and this threshold can never be as low as 10% of your maximum, it should at least be 60% or more.


2. Not talent. Age only gives you experience and there's also aptitude values. The antagonist of volume 1 also knew a technique that Lux invented that beat Lisha. None of these girls are nearly as accomplished as Lux and his fights have shown him to be in a league of his own, defeating opponents the girls struggled with all on his own.

Talent and Aptitude are set at birth, what age gives you is experience(understanding strategies, tactics, how to deal with certain attacks, etc) and skill(using your talent to learn certain techniques and master them to a higher extent). You say that none of the girls are nearly as accomplished as Lux but I'm certain that if Lux were to fight with the third year strongest or Kurulucifer he would have an EXTREMELY tough fight which completely contradicts all of his previous accomplishments, but it would still happen.

3. Celestia is older than Lux so it's reasonable to say that he'd be stronger if he was as old as her, but don't forget to factor in her cheat ability.

Lux should be considered an anomaly, he reached a supreme level of skill by the age of 12 and did something as amazing as defeating over a thousand drag-knights on his own, saying he would be stronger than her if he was older is basically saying she has the same level of talent as him which quite frankly is absurd, when you create an once in a century prodigy you can't turn around and create someone with the same level of talent in his era, it's so improbably that it should be considered by authors as an impossibly and not do it.

Being rusty isn't possible. Have you forgotten Lux has been competing in tournaments against other drag-knights with a wyvern and winning in spite of never attacking with a handicap? He's been training himself this whole time for the inevitable battle against his brother.

That would enforce my point even more, the guy had 5 more years to get better, yet he can be matched by several teenage girls ? It's absurd.

There is no logic to it, the author just went "hey guys, so this guys is the strongest", then "oh btw, now that he showed how OP he is 5 years ago, please ignore all that because i want other teenage girls to be able to match him, thanks".

[Breimoon]

well, he did tie against the princess 's divine draig and he was using a simple one with weights to match his divine's one feeling(resulting in lower mobility) and without attacking even once. So that would mean he is stronger than at least the princess if he were to go full throttle.

[bakato]

Stamina doesn't work that way. Let's say you're a human and you have X amount of stamina, if you use your entire stamina you can cross Y distance but you'll immediately pass out because you'd have exhausted ALL of your stamina. If the same person uses his stamina and crosses Y/10 distance then he won't pass out because he used a VERY low amount of his stamina. Following that reasoning if Lux uses Bahamut for 20 seconds he has to pass out for like an hour, that makes no sense, logically there is a threshold and only after exceeding do you start passing out, the more you exceed it the longer you pass out and this threshold can never be as low as 10% of your maximum, it should at least be 60% or more.

Talent and Aptitude are set at birth, what age gives you is experience(understanding strategies, tactics, how to deal with certain attacks, etc) and skill(using your talent to learn certain techniques and master them to a higher extent). You say that none of the girls are nearly as accomplished as Lux but I'm certain that if Lux were to fight with the third year strongest or Kurulucifer he would have an EXTREMELY tough fight which completely contradicts all of his previous accomplishments, but it would still happen.

Lux should be considered an anomaly, he reached a supreme level of skill by the age of 12 and did something as amazing as defeating over a thousand drag-knights on his own, saying he would be stronger than her if he was older is basically saying she has the same level of talent as him which quite frankly is absurd, when you create an once in a century prodigy you can't turn around and create someone with the same level of talent in his era, it's so improbably that it should be considered by authors as an impossibly and not do it.

That would enforce my point even more, the guy had 5 more years to get better, yet he can be matched by several teenage girls ? It's absurd.

There is no logic to it, the author just went "hey guys, so this guys is the strongest", then "oh btw, now that he showed how OP he is 5 years ago, please ignore all that because i want other teenage girls to be able to match him, thanks".

But also remember that this time, Bahamut was tuned by Airi to lessen the burden on Lux. As for your stamina analogy, Bahamut doesn't just tax the body, but the mind as well and when Lux took out those 1200, he was going way over his limits. It wouldn't have been surprising if he'd died.

Not at all. Did you even read volume 2? He beat a guy who was not only using Fafnir's armaments and divine raiment, but who also stole his Reload on Fire. I think it's safe to say Kurulucifer wouldn't have stood a chance against him. Same with Liz. She couldn't even beat him when he was only using his heavy Wyvern and she was using a divine drag-ride. Also recall that the antagonist of volume 1 managed to beat Lisha's divine drag-ride with a normal one with his special technique. Although he did wear her down with the Abyss beforehand.

[Zakoo]

Being rusty isn't possible. Have you forgotten Lux has been competing in tournaments against other drag-knights with a wyvern and winning in spite of never attacking with a handicap? He's been training himself this whole time for the inevitable battle against his brother.

What are you saying sire ? The tournament he did were when the empire was still alive, it was when he was 11 years old, after his mother died and he chooses to destroy the empire.

And Serise isn't stronger than him, no way hahahaahahahaha, stronger than Lux? hahahaha hell no guys hell no.
You will understand in V4 ...

After rereading the page, I still don't understand which part the author is at fault? If you make a hero OP you need to create others OP near him otherwise it's boring. Expecting killing pokemon level 1 with a level 99, see?

Are you blaming him for not explaining the whole geo politicial situation? The author is writing with the idea of doing each volume a bit of background, thus it needs time. As I said you are asking the impossible you can't have so much info in so little papers.

Blaming for him to be cold after V1? As I said you got this wrong, he didn't touch his divine drag ride for 5 years, with a machine repaired by a noob (his sister), ofc he gets tired after this, you expect him to do push ups?

[bakato]

What are you saying sire ? The tournament he did were when the empire was still alive, it was when he was 11 years old, after his mother died and he chooses to destroy the empire.

And Serise isn't stronger than him, no way hahahaahahahaha, stronger than Lux? hahahaha hell no guys hell no.
You will understand in V4 ...

After rereading the page, I still don't understand which part the author is at fault? If you make a hero OP you need to create others OP near him otherwise it's boring. Expecting killing pokemon level 1 with a level 99, see?

Are you blaming him for not explaining the whole geo politicial situation? The author is writing with the idea of doing each volume a bit of background, thus it needs time. As I said you are asking the impossible you can't have so much info in so little papers.

Blaming for him to be cold after V1? As I said you got this wrong, he didn't touch his divine drag ride for 5 years, with a machine repaired by a noob (his sister), ofc he gets tired after this, you expect him to do push ups?

An Official Mock battle which made use of Drag-Ride was held once a month in the coliseum of the royal capital.

As there was also a prize depending on the military record, it was the nickname attached to one who boasted of the most participation frequency from his combat style, and Lux was called so, but––

That's great to hear. I asked whether Celestia was actually stronger than him, but I didn't get a concrete answer.

[Zakoo]

Hmm yeah you are right indeed. Totally forgot about this part of V1.

[Jirachier]

But also remember that this time, Bahamut was tuned by Airi to lessen the burden on Lux. As for your stamina analogy, Bahamut doesn't just tax the body, but the mind as well and when Lux took out those 1200, he was going way over his limits. It wouldn't have been surprising if he'd died.

When he fought 1200 he wasn't going "over his limit", that's just an expression, but you could say it is his limit. In my analogy I was trying to say if your stamina(I don't mean it necessarily as in physical stamina, but any kind like mental too) has a maximum value of X, then using X/10 will not be taxing to the point of making you lose consciousness for even a second.

Not at all. Did you even read volume 2? He beat a guy who was not only using Fafnir's armaments and divine raiment, but who also stole his Reload on Fire. I think it's safe to say Kurulucifer wouldn't have stood a chance against him.

Exactly, he was barely able to defeat one talented MALE drag-knight who was using his abilities to the fullest extent, just ONE. Someone who has the skill to knock out an entire army on his own should not struggle against one opponent even if this person was stealing abilities from another drag-knight, it made him stronger but at best he was as strong as facing two divine drag-knights.

Same with Liz. She couldn't even beat him when he was only using his heavy Wyvern and she was using a divine drag-ride. Also recall that the antagonist of volume 1 managed to beat Lisha's divine drag-ride with a normal one with his special technique. Although he did wear her down with the Abyss beforehand.

Yes Liz is kind of the exception, probably because she's also super good at being a mechanic so it's okay for her not to be so good as a drag-knight.

After rereading the page, I still don't understand which part the author is at fault? If you make a hero OP you need to create others OP near him otherwise it's boring. Expecting killing pokemon level 1 with a level 99, see?

Are you admitting that the girls are as OP as him ?

And what I'm trying to say is that the author makes you think the protagonist is the strongest without contest, without equal or rival, without anyone being anywhere near his level when he is at full strength. But then he proceeds to spam characters who can face him on equal ground.
You're saying that it would be boring if he had no one as OP as him, first of all if that is the opinion of the author then all I am asking is for him to be clear about it, that Lux is not so strong that no one can fight him, if that is the kind of story he wants to write, just don't say one thing and write another, if I wanted to give an extreme example it would be like being told that a book is about Math then gave you a Philosophy book, that is not what I signed up for.
I also to address something that I read a lot which is the notion that if a protagonist is so OP that no one can match him then a story will be boring, this idea is untrue, it's just that people have been reading so many series of weak-to-strong, strong-to-stronger which makes them believe that an OP character with no one on equal term would be boring, it all depends on what the author wants to do and how competent he is at it.
In fact in Bahamut itself it would've been very interesting, if Lux can defeat 1200 ordinary drag-knights then in my opinion that would be the equivalent of maybe around 5 super first class drag-knight riders on the level of Kurulucifer, something like that, that would make him an extremely powerful individual with a lot of impact on the world but it wouldn't make him so strong that he cannot be taken down, it would just means that you can't beat him individually but if a country sent their best riders and they ganged up on him they would challenge or even beat him. Does every series really need a protagonist who is matched ? I'm pretty sure 99.999 of everything out there has a struggling protagonist, an OP protagonist with no equal would be a breath of fresh air to be honest, something like Onepunch-Man but with a serious tone.

[bakato]

When he fought 1200 he wasn't going "over his limit", that's just an expression, but you could say it is his limit. In my analogy I was trying to say if your stamina(I don't mean it necessarily as in physical stamina, but any kind like mental too) has a maximum value of X, then using X/10 will not be taxing to the point of making you lose consciousness for even a second.

Exactly, he was barely able to defeat one talented MALE drag-knight who was using his abilities to the fullest extent, just ONE. Someone who has the skill to knock out an entire army on his own should not struggle against one opponent even if this person was stealing abilities from another drag-knight, it made him stronger but at best he was as strong as facing two divine drag-knights.

Yes Liz is kind of the exception, probably because she's also super good at being a mechanic so it's okay for her not to be so good as a drag-knight.

Now I don't understand your analogy at all. In the past, Bahamut wasn't as tuned to Lux as it was now and fighting 1200 drag-rides would've taken a bit longer than a hundred. Furthermore, even among divine drag-rides, Bahamut is particularly difficult to control so it becomes even more taxing.

Barely? Trust me. If spoilers are to be believed then Lux wasn't in any danger at all. He had another card up his sleeve and I don't think you understand what a monster Azi was having TWO divine raiments and Fafnir's auto shield and nearly unlimited operational time thanks to stealing energy. Two in one is a lot different than two on one. Plus, it was also stealing his energy too. Furthermore, recall that stealing Bahamut's ability means Lux no longer has access to it.

So Lux was basically fighting a two in one divine drag-ride with a divine drag-ride minus its divine raiment, which is it's only ability, all the while having his energy constantly sapped. In spite of these overwhelming odds, Lux still won. Believe me, the girls are talented, but they're nowhere near his level.

Also, said army of 1200 was probably just normal drag-rides and don't forget to give credit to Bahamut that had its divine raiment when Lux took out those 1200.

[Zakoo]

Are you admitting that the girls are as OP as him ?



As I said no ... They are nowhere near his level. Pretty much, all the girls would team up he would still beat them.

Hint :

http://i.imgur.com/NTDZz4v.jpg

But it needs to be written with some drama, as if he would struggle against them, otherwise it's boring.

[Jirachier]

Now I don't understand your analogy at all. In the past, Bahamut wasn't as tuned to Lux as it was now and fighting 1200 drag-rides would've taken a bit longer than a hundred. Furthermore, even among divine drag-rides, Bahamut is particularly difficult to control so it becomes even more taxing.

Lux's sister did say that he can only use it for 10 minutes but the explanation was kind of vague as to why, if Bahamut isn't as good as it used to be or whatever, because it sure as hell seems just as excellent as other divine drag-rides if not better.
In my analogy I was trying to explain how stamina is something that unless you're starting to approach the limit of it, it won't hurt you. IRL if you use just a tiny bit of stamina to do an activity or even 10% of the stamina you possess you won't feel exhausted, only when you use a significant percentage of stamina do you start feeling like you're about to die. Just look at the other divine drag-riders, they pretty much use their drag-rides for as long as Lux is doing so yet they don't lose consciousness.

Barely? Trust me. If spoilers are to be believed then Lux wasn't in any danger at all. He had another card up his sleeve and I don't think you understand what a monster Azi was having TWO divine raiments and Fafnir's auto shield and nearly unlimited operational time thanks to stealing energy. Two in one is a lot different than two on one. Plus, it was also stealing his energy too. Furthermore, recall that stealing Bahamut's ability means Lux no longer has access to it.

Well yes he was fighting without his divine raiment but that was because it was stolen from him IN the fight, it was his fault(yes I know the antagonist was threatening Kuruluficer but still). After it was stolen from him he was indeed fighting a pretty strong drag-ride but supposedly his skill as a drag-knight towers over his opponent. If Lux wasn't in any danger as you said then I blame the author for trying to create a dramatic scene where readers are like "oh not what is going to happen" even if it's not the reality.

So Lux was basically fighting a two in one divine drag-ride with a divine drag-ride minus its divine raiment, which is it's only ability, all the while having his energy constantly sapped. In spite of these overwhelming odds, Lux still won. Believe me, the girls are talented, but they're nowhere near his level.

So for example would Lux beat the 3rd year high strongest for example ?

Also, said army of 1200 was probably just normal drag-rides and don't forget to give credit to Bahamut that had its divine raiment when Lux took out those 1200.

That's the assumption I was working with even though it makes absolutely no sense for an army not to have ONE divine drag-knight on their side, that's just too convenient man. The entire country probably had like what 3000 drag-knights or less ? yet they won't even send one divine-drag knights to command a good chunk of their army


As I said no ... They are nowhere near his level. Pretty much, all the girls would team up he would still beat them.

Hint :

Spoiler for image spoil:

I thought the second mode activation was something he only learned recently from Lisha, so it doesn't really count lol
I'm trying to argue that with the level of strength he showed 5 years ago he should be much stronger than anybody.

[Amanomurakumo]

Lux's sister did say that he can only use it for 10 minutes but the explanation was kind of vague as to why, if Bahamut isn't as good as it used to be or whatever, because it sure as hell seems just as excellent as other divine drag-rides if not better.
In my analogy I was trying to explain how stamina is something that unless you're starting to approach the limit of it, it won't hurt you. IRL if you use just a tiny bit of stamina to do an activity or even 10% of the stamina you possess you won't feel exhausted, only when you use a significant percentage of stamina do you start feeling like you're about to die. Just look at the other divine drag-riders, they pretty much use their drag-rides for as long as Lux is doing so yet they don't lose consciousness.



Well yes he was fighting without his divine raiment but that was because it was stolen from him IN the fight, it was his fault(yes I know the antagonist was threatening Kuruluficer but still). After it was stolen from him he was indeed fighting a pretty strong drag-ride but supposedly his skill as a drag-knight towers over his opponent. If Lux wasn't in any danger as you said then I blame the author for trying to create a dramatic scene where readers are like "oh not what is going to happen" even if it's not the reality.



So for example would Lux beat the 3rd year high strongest for example ?



That's the assumption I was working with even though it makes absolutely no sense for an army not to have ONE divine drag-knight on their side, that's just too convenient man. The entire country probably had like what 3000 drag-knights or less ? yet they won't even send one divine-drag knights to command a good chunk of their army




I thought the second mode activation was something he only learned recently from Lisha, so it doesn't really count lol
I'm trying to argue that with the level of strength he showed 5 years ago he should be much stronger than anybody.

5 years ago he spent a month in a coma as a result of using a high-tech device, which doesn't correspond to any real-world technology, so who knows what kind of side-effects it would have on the user.
After using it in volume 1 he was tired enough to sleep for a whole day.
It seems pretty reasonable for someone who has use a lot of energy to sleep longer than normal. And stamina is not really something that can be measured and given a definite numerical value. People can continue functioning for far longer than their normal endurance would allow, if they have their pain receptors blocked by something like adrenaline or drugs. Maybe Bahamut has some function like that. A man was once documented who suffered brain damage and was incapable of falling asleep, and continued to remain awake for weeks on end like that until he eventually died.

[haseo0408]

http://i.imgur.com/r7czvIY.jpg
isn't she is the girl on the cover of vol 5 ?
that smile seems evil one, kurumi? :heh:

I don´t about you but Kurumi is my favorite character of all Date A Live, no contest, if this girl only a 1/3 of what Kurumi is then I´m going to like her a lot. :D

[bietchie11]

Will the author include some rapey situation for Lux in the future with that Kurumi wanabe?
Lux is the perfect Uke after all.

[ZeKeR]

Will the author include some rapey situation for Lux in the future with that Kurumi wanabe?
Lux is the perfect Uke after all.

if he turned S... he'll subject the girls to ero punishments... and being his girls that they are, they WILL like it.

why not have them read a 50 shades of grey similar book where a princess gets... "compromised" by a noble for lulz and giggles.

[DragonKing0117]

if he turned S... he'll subject the girls to ero punishments... and being his girls that they are, they WILL like it.

why not have them read a 50 shades of grey similar book where a princess gets... "compromised" by a noble for lulz and giggles.

This isn't Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance. Unlike the girls in that series, the girls here have enough interaction with men that they don't need books like that for their sexual interests and fantasies.

[ZeKeR]

This isn't Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance. Unlike the girls in that series, the girls here have enough interaction with men that they don't need books like that for their sexual interests and fantasies.

but they are susceptible to Lux turning S instead of the meek lovable kiddo they know tho XD

and 'sides, one of the girls at school apparently wants to collar him...

[cloud04]

but they are susceptible to Lux turning S instead of the meek lovable kiddo they know tho XD

and 'sides, one of the girls at school apparently wants to collar him...

one?dont you mean all XD

[DragonKing0117]

one?dont you mean all XD

Isn't he already collared by the Queen though :heh:

[cloud04]

Isn't he already collared by the Queen though :heh:

sharing is caring XD

[tsunade666]

Hmm... I'm reading volume 2 but so far I still can't see the reason why lux and airing are in debt. In volume 1 they are freed but their are put in surveillance and given a debt so large I think its 1/5 of the coat for the country(not sure. Can't remember it clearly) but the thing is. Isn't lux the one who made the rebellion possible? I think he instigated it to save his sister and big boob air head. He use the resistance while the resistance also gets aid from him. For someone who is a hero and key figure that made the rebellion possible.

I don't understand why they are in debt.

[anonfr]

Hmm... I'm reading volume 2 but so far I still can't see the reason why lux and airing are in debt. In volume 1 they are freed but their are put in surveillance and given a debt so large I think its 1/5 of the coat for the country(not sure. Can't remember it clearly) but the thing is. Isn't lux the one who made the rebellion possible? I think he instigated it to save his sister and big boob air head. He use the resistance while the resistance also gets aid from him. For someone who is a hero and key figure that made the rebellion possible.

I don't understand why they are in debt.

It's more or less a cover. The former prince of the "evil empire" walking around unmolested after the empire was overthrown would be strange. If anything, a former royal family would be executed after a coup. So, Lux is put in debt. Now, as far as the masses are concerned he's been punished accordingly, more or less. So, since he's been punished and everyone knows about it, he can walk around more or less unmolested and do what he has too without people being overly suspicious. In contrast if Lux took credit for being a hero of a rebellion, it would feel more like a power struggle in the royal family instead of a rebellion at all. It could rob people of a real sense of change. Or something like that. There's a big backlash too it is the main point.

As for "What he has to do" it's a little more complicated. He's looking into his brother, but I never got a sense that was the full story of it. I sort of feel like he's up to more than just that. Though, between harem antics I've not seen much investigating going on..

[tsunade666]

As for "What he has to do" it's a little more complicated. He's looking into his brother, but I never got a sense that was the full story of it. I sort of feel like he's up to more than just that. Though, between harem antics I've not seen much investigating going on..

This is true. He kept mentioning about it but so far. It left untouched yet. The central plot hasn't move that far yet.

A cover story... hmm but living a life in debt :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: yeh, right. No sane guy will live like that. He could run away from the country or go into hiding but not living like that. Though I can understand Airi's reason for researching about Bahamut but for Lux... nah, -_- though I can contribute it too him wanting the help the people because when his a prince. He can't connect to his people.

[Zakoo]

He flees where to? Arie used to have a very weak constitution, that's why she doesn't practice drag ride or sword skills, would she be able to always travel around the world fleeing assassins?

But I do understand your point, he didn't do anything to search for Fugil.

[cloud04]

He flees where to? Arie used to have a very weak constitution, that's why she doesn't practice drag ride or sword skills, would she be able to always travel around the world fleeing assassins?

But I do understand your point, he didn't do anything to search for Fugil.

well where would he start looking to begin with?the guy just disappeared

[tsunade666]

well where would he start looking to begin with?the guy just disappeared

Its better to search for clues outside of the empire than stay for the empire and pray tell that he will come back.

[anonfr]

This is true. He kept mentioning about it but so far. It left untouched yet. The central plot hasn't move that far yet.

A cover story... hmm but living a life in debt :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: yeh, right. No sane guy will live like that. He could run away from the country or go into hiding but not living like that. Though I can understand Airi's reason for researching about Bahamut but for Lux... nah, -_- though I can contribute it too him wanting the help the people because when his a prince. He can't connect to his people.

I just told you the reason that he's still in the empire with the debt. I never said it was a good reason. It's just, the reason as stated so far.

Its better to search for clues outside of the empire than stay for the empire and pray tell that he will come back.

I've thought about that too. Maybe Lux thinks (correctly, I guess) that his Brother is scheming something that will harm the new kingdom, so he hangs around to be ready for him.

I think maybe you're setting your story telling standards too high though, this is a harem mech series after all. You just gotta take it for what it is and enjoy what it gives.

I don't really disagree with your points. I think there's a difference between in story logic and actual logic.

[bakato]

Its better to search for clues outside of the empire than stay for the empire and pray tell that he will come back.

Search how? In case you didn't notice, he's been collared, and not just literally. If he runs now, the New Kingdom will put a hit out on him and he'll have to spend his entire life on the run with Airi. Also, he's got no resources or connections to track Fugil down so going outside the kingdom is pointless.

[tsunade666]

Search how? In case you didn't notice, he's been collared, and not just literally. If he runs now, the New Kingdom will put a hit out on him and he'll have to spend his entire life on the run with Airi. Also, he's got no resources or connections to track Fugil down so going outside the kingdom is pointless.

its not pointless if he uses the people that run away from the new empire. Your forgetting lux can be pretty scheming if he wanted too like what he did to make the empire fall. His still a prince and Airi is a princess though the previews empire is vocal against female, they will still follow lux as a previews prince and a strong drag ride user. he makes his name even before the whole rebellion fiasco.

As for running. his a prince from the fallen empire. that status alone can get him connection on the right people and look at what he found when he plans to make the empire fall.

and I know this is harem story. you don't need to use too much brain here but its just some part of the story is pretty jarring as always.

[bakato]

its not pointless if he uses the people that run away from the new empire. Your forgetting lux can be pretty scheming if he wanted too like what he did to make the empire fall. His still a prince and Airi is a princess though the previews empire is vocal against female, they will still follow lux as a previews prince and a strong drag ride user. he makes his name even before the whole rebellion fiasco.

As for running. his a prince from the fallen empire. that status alone can get him connection on the right people and look at what he found when he plans to make the empire fall.

and I know this is harem story. you don't need to use too much brain here but its just some part of the story is pretty jarring as always.

Scheming? He took Bahamut and destroyed a significant portion of the empire's army, which left them vulnerable to the ensuing rebellion. I wouldn't call that scheming. He's a bastard prince so I somehow doubt the remnants of the empire would follow him.

Exactly. A FALLEN empire. He's got no status and even when he was a prince he made no attempt to make connections. Flugil, on the other hand, was very deeply involved in the empire's darker side, such as its investigation and experiments with the ruins. This knowledge alone gives him value that would make the higher ups of other countries lend him an ear.

[tsunade666]

Scheming? He took Bahamut and destroyed a significant portion of the empire's army, which left them vulnerable to the ensuing rebellion. I wouldn't call that scheming. He's a bastard prince so I somehow doubt the remnants of the empire would follow him.


Did we read the same thing?

Fugil, who tightly wrapped himself in a robe from head to toe, sat on a seat at the table illuminated by a candle flame, and slightly stuck out his head.

“The matter is proceeding as planned, little brother. As you planned, everything is going well.”

“Thank you.”

Lux bowed and then put the Sword Device which he was wearing on the table.

“I’m also ready.”

“As expected of you, little brother.”

Lux begin instigating and planning the rebellion when his childhood friend and sister was in line to be used as guinea pig.

Though I won't call it scheming but more like using the rebels to get what he wanted.


Though the eldest might be also using the youngest. While Lux plan is ongoing. So sa Fugil. with the talk between the two. I can't help but doubt that Fugil is the one planting ideas to Lux to instigate the rebels.

“Was I wrong?”

As his gaze fell to the water’s surface of the pond, Lux Acadia muttered.

The expression of the youth who wore the imperial family’s mantle on his body was cold and stiff.

“No, you did well.”

Fugil answered in a calm tone.

“The Honor of being the youngest in the empire history to have obtained the license of Drag-Knight. Using the opportunity of having been invited into the Imperial Court for that commendation, your ability to report to Father –– to His Majesty the Emperor was splendid. It was hardly thinkable of you who have just turned 12.”

The Reinforcement law of the system of androcracy. The heavy taxation due to military expansion. Human experiment of powerful drugs using poor citizens.

Lux Acadia had carried out the statement of wanting you (the emperor) to cancel all of that.

“But, His Majesty the Emperor didn’t even take the trouble to hear you out. Your doubt is also justifiable. This empire has completely accelerated (grown) in the wrong direction.”

“…………”

Even to his eldest brother, Fugil who held the same opinion, Lux Acadia did not change his complexion.

To his younger brother who showed neither resentment nor disappointment even after he was deprived of his greatest chance, Fugil continued his words.

“It seems to have been decided that your little sister will also go to the remote region in two months. Poor child, even though she still bedridden due to illness after losing her mother in that incident…”

“…………”

“I wonder whether it was to boost the morale of the army of frontier guards as well as a diplomatic purpose. His Majesty’s way of doing is candid. Once you oppose him, he will show no mercy even to his relatives.”

“What do you think, Nii-san? About the situation of this Empire.”

Lux Acadia turned his face to Fugil and asked.

It was not the expression of a pretty boy where childishness remained; it was a different look.

It was an inhuman ruler’s smile.

It was the transcendent smile of a person who cleared away ethics and emotions.

“The Empire now is smeared with depravity. Corruption, disparity, tyranny, heavy taxes and oppression. The gear which once went amiss accelerates without stopping. His Majesty the Emperor and the ministers did not even listen to my report.”

Lux Acadia spun his words with a calm tone.

“––Despite this, no one tries to stop it. No one tries to correct it. Let alone the people of lineage that hold authority, even the other chief vassals and feudal lords.”

“…You’re right.”

To that fact which was indifferently spitted out, Fugil agreed.

“He neither takes the populace’s life into consideration nor corrects injustice; he doesn’t carry out his duty, either. Nobles, who only steal, force and covet. They have certainly lost the pride of “Standing above others”. Even their subordinates and dependents are so. The current nobles themselves should know their depravity. However, once he turns to the side which exploited –– to the side which receives benefit, he will never consider going as far as to cast away his profits and position in order to save the people. He can permit as many times as he likes the “irrational misfortune of others”.”

“…………”

After Lux Acadia slightly nodded to Fugil’s words,

“Yes… That’s why this empire –– the world doesn’t change anymore. It can’t be changed. As long as the empire’s army monopolizes the Drag-Rides, revolt will only be the final coating of tragedy. I’ve heard about many stories of resistance and even uncalled massive slaughters.”

“Yes. But, there is nothing we can do now––”

“––No, I don’t think so.”

Interrupting the words of Fugil who resigned himself, Lux Acadia said clearly.

“So, there is something I have to tell you. Will you hear it? It’s for that reason that I come today to the imperial capital.”

Lux Acadia’s smile which wore a shadow and Fugil with a perplexed face.


If Lux can plan to instigate and use the rebels to destroy the empire then he can also use the rebel army to find his brother. Finding Fugil is his current goal. And currently his probably the only one that can stop the empire when they attack the new kingdom. Given that

“Although the New Kingdom was born, there are still the Old Empire’s remnants remaining. They escaped into the neighboring countries which were supporting the Empire, getting cooperating organizations, and even now –– aim at the recapture of the government by military power (force).”

“…………”

In fact, there had been rumors that the rebel army of the Old Empire was superior in number than the regular army of the current New Kingdom.

However, they just haven’t showed up these several years.

Him being a prince has higher value to start the gathering of empire's backer than the run away nobles or soldiers from the empire.

Really political talks and movement. he can do better.

The reason that I can accept for Lux accepting being the chore prince is because he also wanted it.

(What have I ever done for the citizens in those days?)

What Lux had obtained five years ago was the title of Prince and several privileges.

He was thinking whether even the young him could not do something as a prince of a great Empire which lasted several hundred years.

And, the day of fate.

As the result of the fact that he himself personally moved––, the ideal which Lux painted as a Prince was smashed up.

Therefore, right.

As he became the chore Prince, Lux was saved for the first time.

The people of the town with whom he could not even get in touch with well until now.

Every place and every job.

With odd jobs for five years, he felt like having slightly gotten used to being a familiar existence.

He intended to be able to understand the words “for the people” that he had spoken.

(I’m selfish, eh…)

Lux has plans but so as Fugil

“The Drag-Knights, of the, army, as well, as His Majesty the Emperor, everyone,… This is, from the plan––”

“Ku, hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!”

The man laughed loudly.

And after suddenly opening his eyes wide, he glared at Lux.

“I was saved the trouble thanks to you. I never thought that you would be going so far. Thanks to you, this easily advanced farther than what I planned. If you were done without being able to properly defeat the army, I would have had no choice but to call the Abyss using the “flute”.”

Taking out a golden flute never seen before from his breast pocket, the man laughed.

“If I called a large quantity of Abyss, it would be easy to destroy this country, but the cleaning up afterwards would be troublesome. You save me the trouble. Goddamn Prince.”

“Kahah…!”

Lux once again vomitted blood and fell on the floor.

He could not stand up anymore…

As if blood disappeared from his whole body, he grew weak.

The sensation of certain death wrapped Lux’s whole body.

“But, you deserve respect. At this age, you manage Machine Dragons better than anyone else, and without using trickery, you fought to put an end to the history of this rotten Empire. By using me and borrowing Count Atismata’s strength, you wonderfully destroyed this country. You’re splendid, little brother! I praise your bottomless resolve and pride, and your talent!”

[peinmaximus@]

Lux already have kissed the blonde girl of the cover of the volume 3?

[DragonKing0117]

Lux already have kissed the blonde girl of the cover of the volume 3?

I'm pretty sure he's only kissed Kurulucifer, who happened to steal both his first AND second kisses, back to back.

[XFire]

I'm pretty sure he's only kissed Kurulucifer, who happened to steal both his first AND second kisses, back to back.

Nope, Phillipe stole his first kiss years ago.

[DragonKing0117]

Nope, Phillipe stole his first kiss years ago.

Really? When was that revealed? Vol 3 or 4? Well, either way, Kurulu, took his second and third kisses then.

[cloud04]

Really? When was that revealed? Vol 3 or 4? Well, either way, Kurulu, took his second and third kisses then.

go back and read

[Nagakun]

Lux just did what he think is right when he repel against the empire at first due to his personal reasons, but he doesn't seem to scheme a lot and that he got things he plan to do, and one is to look for his older brother.

But I still prefer kiss and then kiss one more time moment myself hahaha

[ZeKeR]

regarding our poor kiddo's kisses... what exactly WOULD happen if Phi decided to kiss him in front of his sister and the girls... and the new girl of v5 looks like she's a Kurumi clone.

also, he's hoping that the new empire isn't like his old family... hope... such a fragile thing which is cemented on verisimilitude.

[Zakoo]

Dunno about Yoruko being a Kurumi clone, you are going way too far into her personnality. Physically speaking they do look like each others but after this ...

[ZeKeR]

Dunno about Yoruko being a Kurumi clone, you are going way too far into her personnality. Physically speaking they do look like each others but after this ...

heterochromia and black hair reminded me so hard brah XD

although I'm wondering what kind of character is she....

[peinmaximus@]

Who is Phillipe?

[ZeKeR]

Who is Phillipe?

his childhood friend. you'd know her as "Phi"

[arandomdude6]

Who is Phillipe?

Her name is not Phillipe, it is Philphie

[cloud04]

Who is Phillipe?

sounds like a dude's name

[haseo0408]

sounds like a dude's name

Because it is a male name, in my country we use the variant Felipe for guys.

[Nagakun]

And that girl want Lux to call her by Phi no matter what at first after meeting again.

Well, the whole class got their own laugh at first.

[RED IV]

guys just came from the wiki and I gotta say whoever is editing that please keep up the good work cause most of the times people discover a cool anime,light novel,manga,etc is from seeing the wiki

[Weather]

Been starting to read this series, although the beginning is a lil weak.

Spoiler free but in how much does the story really kick in? (a la Blade Dance?)

[techblade]

Been starting to read this series, although the beginning is a lil weak.

Spoiler free but in how much does the story really kick in? (a la Blade Dance?)

Blade Dance is good due to EST but this series don't have such a girl sadly. MC's background is ok in bahamut but his personality sucks.

[cloud04]

in terms of girls then vol 2 is a pure win

[bietchie11]

We only care about girls, don't we?

[ZeKeR]

We only care about girls, don't we?

well Lux IS sort of the girls' pet since he's running around the school being the lovable meek boy that he is (since that prologue at v2 when one of the girls said the third years will monopolize him, I'm assuming that the onee-sans will "reward" him like burying his head on their chest. still... I'm waiting for the principal to troll with him again) when not being OP as hell although his sister does not approve.

[techblade]

in terms of girls then vol 2 is a pure win

You are talking about that flat chested girl right? Sadly she would have been perfect if not for the flatness. Lolis can pull it off since they have room to grow but not her she was totally barren considering her body type. Guess a girl gotta have one flaw or two to be human.

[Trung-t-rung]

well Lux IS sort of the girls' pet since he's running around the school being the lovable meek boy that he is (since that prologue at v2 when one of the girls said the third years will monopolize him, I'm assuming that the onee-sans will "reward" him like burying his head on their chest. still... I'm waiting for the principal to troll with him again) when not being OP as hell although his sister does not approve.

Well, there are a lot of carnivore type MC these days so I actually prefer an uke type MC like Lux.
I'm sure the girls were charmed by his heroic gallant figure when in battle as well as his meekness of a shota kouhai in dailylife. I guess that's what they called gap-moe.:heh:

[Amanomurakumo]

Well, there are a lot of carnivore type MC these days so I actually prefer an uke type MC like Lux.
I'm sure the girls were charmed by his heroic gallant figure when in battle as well as his meekness of a shota kouhai in dailylife. I guess that's what they called gap-moe.:heh:

As long as the MC is not Ichikaish, any kind will do for me.

[DragonKing0117]

As long as the MC is not Ichikaish, any kind will do for me.

Speaking of Ichika, I may need to read Infinite Stratos again. I remember hearing somebody say that he lost some of his denseness in the latest volumes, but seeing how it's Ichika, I have a good reason to not believe it. I'll still check it out anyway.

[XFire]

We only care about girls, don't we?

With few exceptions, yes. Of course, those exceptions are also the best series out there so....

[RED IV]

the mc who's interaction with his harem I am loving is the one from trinity seven

[XFire]

the mc who's interaction with his harem I am loving is the one from trinity seven

He's one of the exceptions, yes. I mean, that series has some of the best girls around and people still read it for Arata himself.

Though, Arata is an exception among exceptions. Lux isn't really that bad of an MC, though he hits one too many of the traditional pitfalls for my taste (passive personality, easily embarrassed, gets jerked around a lot).

[Ophis]

If you guys want a really great MC, I recommend "Tsuki Tsuki!". Nanjou Shinobu is a one heck of a badass MC. I personally think he's better than even Arata. :p

[Trung-t-rung]

If you guys want a really great MC, I recommend "Tsuki Tsuki!". Nanjou Shinobu is a one heck of a badass MC. I personally think he's better than even Arata. :p

While Arata has his trolling persona, Shinobu has both trolling ability and a trap form so Shinobu is automatically superior.:cool:

[ZeKeR]

but in v3 wasn't Lux "volunteered" by the girls to crossdress for something? I won't be surprised if some go to the point of filling out his request form just to call them "onee-chan" or somewhere along the lines.

[Direwolf18]

While Arata has his trolling persona, Shinobu has both trolling ability and a trap form so Shinobu is automatically superior.:cool:


::shudders::

Why did you make me remeber that.

[Riki]

but in v3 wasn't Lux "volunteered" by the girls to crossdress for something? I won't be surprised if some go to the point of filling out his request form just to call them "onee-chan" or somewhere along the lines.

nope, he was requested to cross dress for an incident.

[XFire]

If you guys want a really great MC, I recommend "Tsuki Tsuki!". Nanjou Shinobu is a one heck of a badass MC. I personally think he's better than even Arata. :p

He was at first, but he gets a little more passive later on. At least towards Luna. DOesn't make it less hilarious, though.

Personally, I'd love a little cross-over. They'd get along great.

[hitotake]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0DKi53CMAAj95c.jpg
just notice it now , is she Heterochromia? her left eyes seems have different color (more like red?)
if it's true (not because effect from hair or my eyes that see it wrong :heh:)

can be the reason she wear blindfold on image from vol 4 because her eyes kinda special ability or something anything mentioned on vol 4? :confused:

well for it's rare to see heterochromia character, i think i will like her (well i like kurumi too) :D

[Direwolf18]

I do believe she is hitotake. I for one can't wait until we meet her. I had looked at this and went meh with the first description of the mc, but her art alone made me give it the push of reading the entire first volume and I'm glad I did.

[DragonKing0117]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0DKi53CMAAj95c.jpg
just notice it now , is she Heterochromia? her left eyes seems have different color (more like red?)
if it's true (not because effect from hair or my eyes that see it wrong :heh:)

can be the reason she wear blindfold on image from vol 4 because her eyes kinda special ability or something anything mentioned on vol 4? :confused:

well for it's rare to see heterochromia character, i think i will like her (well i like kurumi too) :D

Yeah, we kinda established she had heterochromia a few pages back. :heh: She ended up being compared to Kurumi? from some series. It's been a while since then so I don't know which.

As for people with heterochromatic eyes having powers relating to their eyes, it's fifty-fifty on that point. Half the time they will, the other half they don't.

[XFire]

Yeah, we kinda established she had heterochromia a few pages back. :heh: She ended up being compared to Kurumi? from some series. It's been a while since then so I don't know which.

As for people with heterochromatic eyes having powers relating to their eyes, it's fifty-fifty on that point. Half the time they will, the other half they don't.

What you did there.

I see it.

[Zakoo]

She's blindfolded simply to restrain her power, there has been no hint about her having "magical power" coming from the eyes.

[Direwolf18]

Yeah, we kinda established she had heterochromia a few pages back. :heh: She ended up being compared to Kurumi? from some series. It's been a while since then so I don't know which.

As for people with heterochromatic eyes having powers relating to their eyes, it's fifty-fifty on that point. Half the time they will, the other half they don't.

Date-a-live is the ln.

But we are approaching damn near 100% of the person with said eyes being discriminated against because of them and only the MC seeing past it. My personal favorite is Tigre nonchalantly comparing Elizevarrets eyes to his old cat and leaving it as that. She was totally not expecting that reaction and was used to peopl either being repulsed, or giving her false compliments because of her powers (doesn't involve the eyes) and rank.

[DragonKing0117]

What you did there.

I see it.

Honestly, that wasn't even intentional. :heh: Well thanks anyway.

In other news, the latest chapter of the manga is out. It covers from Lux being transferred in to the welcoming party. Philphie is adorable with her forcing Lux to call her Phi-chan as Usual. Once again we are reminded that even in a Lisha-centric volume, every character and their grandmother will block her romantic attempts on Lux. :heh: Kurulucifer is still best girl, Airi teases her brother, Lisha overdresses while everyone is still in a school uniform, Lux sheds manly tears, and this girl:
http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/15080/004.0/compressed/d017.jpg?v=11415680621
Just look at the upper left panel, there seems to be one in every series, eh?

[hitotake]

I do believe she is hitotake. I for one can't wait until we meet her. I had looked at this and went meh with the first description of the mc, but her art alone made me give it the push of reading the entire first volume and I'm glad I did.
at first i kind of reluctant to read it because IS anime (mech suit but ...) , i only watch first season and still don't understand what is the plot (i haven't read the LN so i cant really say anything ... ). :heh:
but description of this series about (the weakest undefeated) and tsundere on this series don't hit or do domestic violence to the mc also the illustration is good.
i think that was my reason to read this series , and now i'm glad i was not wrong :D

She's blindfolded simply to restrain her power, there has been no hint about her having "magical power" coming from the eyes.
i can only think she is very dangerous if she need to restrained like that :heh:
either she have bad personality (abusing her power) or her power simply dangerous for other :heh:


http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/15080/004.0/compressed/d017.jpg?v=11415680621
Just look at the upper left panel, there seems to be one in every series, eh?
i think i see mil tan from dxd there :heh:

[obnuchious]

i think i see mil tan from dxd there :heh:

see that one too

or that could be Bob (from Psycho Romance...) or the 'nurse' from Zettai Karen Children

[DragonKing0117]

So yeah, thought I'd bring it up here since it relates to it but, I need some help with the wiki. For whatever reason, one of the staff is deleting some of the LN images for Volume 1 that were on there:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/a/aa/SaijakuBahamut_v1_00b.jpg/800px-SaijakuBahamut_v1_00b.jpghttp://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/e/e2/SaijakuBahamut_v1_147.jpg/389px-SaijakuBahamut_v1_147.jpg
Now the color illustration, I can somewhat understand for obvious reasons, but the non-color one I can't. Especially since the other images that she left alone include:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/1/1c/SaijakuBahamut_v1_107.jpg/379px-SaijakuBahamut_v1_107.jpg
Anyway, if someone who is great with wiki work can help me figure out how to solve the problem without having to resort with tweaking the images for whatever reason or not including them at all, that would be a great help.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

So yeah, thought I'd bring it up here since it relates to it but, I need some help with the wiki. For whatever reason, one of the staff is deleting some of the LN images for Volume 1 that were on there:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/a/aa/SaijakuBahamut_v1_00b.jpg/800px-SaijakuBahamut_v1_00b.jpghttp://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/e/e2/SaijakuBahamut_v1_147.jpg/389px-SaijakuBahamut_v1_147.jpg
Now the color illustration, I can somewhat understand for obvious reasons, but the non-color one I can't. Especially since the other images that she left alone include:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/1/1c/SaijakuBahamut_v1_107.jpg/379px-SaijakuBahamut_v1_107.jpg
Anyway, if someone who is great with wiki work can help me figure out how to solve the problem without having to resort with tweaking the images for whatever reason or not including them at all, that would be a great help.

Its pretty obvious why they're deleting it. The two images depict "sexual actions" the one that was kept is her basically showing the symbol there's nothing ridiculous about that

[DragonKing0117]

Its pretty obvious why they're deleting it. The two images depict "sexual actions" the one that was kept is her basically showing the symbol there's nothing ridiculous about that

No I sorta get that part, which is why I could easily understand the color one. It just sort of irks me that a new wiki to an ecchi series is getting like this while all the popular ones with anime out and that have been around a lot longer can get away with images like this in their novels on the wiki. :hmm:

Well, I know Queen's Blade Wiki managed to get that 18+ warning label on their site, but this isn't really that kind of series, so I don't want to do that. Any ideas?

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

No I sorta get that part, which is why I could easily understand the color one. It just sort of irks me that a new wiki to an ecchi series is getting like this while all the popular ones with anime out and that have been around a lot longer can get away with images like this in their novels on the wiki. :hmm:

Well, I know Queen's Blade Wiki managed to get that 18+ warning label on their site, but this isn't really that kind of series, so I don't want to do that. Any ideas?

here's an idea wait and be patient simple as that.

[DragonKing0117]

here's an idea wait and be patient simple as that.

Haaa... that's what it comes down to for now isn't it? http://www.hwork.de/mu/Smileys/onions/lonely.gif

Well, I'll just continue working on the wiki and hope something hits me along the way.

[Rokumonsen]

A friend recommended me to read this novel. Is it good?

[tsunade666]

A friend recommended me to read this novel. Is it good?

its good. typical harem story.

[cloud04]

seems kasuga manga just got animated...only a matter of time before this one gets one as well :))

[nero12]

seems kasuga manga just got animated...only a matter of time before this one gets one as well :))

yup seems that way...btw are there eng scans of the said manga, dandelion was it?

[hitotake]

yup seems that way...btw are there eng scans of the said manga, dandelion was it?
sadly no , all i can find is raw version ( and i can say i like akane and kanade on that manga) :D
imo kanade have same chara design (or same) as one character from bahamut (but with more upgrade?) :heh:

[ZeKeR]

that aside, where is the obligatory "boob wars" in this harem? it would be funny to see the girls start comparing their assets when Phi would casually say that Lux would often cop a feel when they slept together and another Lux hunt would happen because of the notion that "having a guy rub your ta ta's makes 'em larger" and Kuru kicks it off.

[DragonKing0117]

that aside, where is the obligatory "boob wars" in this harem? it would be funny to see the girls start comparing their assets when Phi would casually say that Lux would often cop a feel when they slept together and another Lux hunt would happen because of the notion that "having a guy rub your ta ta's makes 'em larger" and Kuru kicks it off.

This would earn you a cookie...

If it weren't for the fact that the only person I can reasonably see starting something like this is Lisha. I'm pretty sure Kurulu doesn't really care about it all that much, but Lisha, in her scheme to get Lux's heart, would start it off only for it to backfire completely and have her lose, again, to Kurulu who'd just be doing it for the lulz.

[cloud04]

yup seems that way...btw are there eng scans of the said manga, dandelion was it?

and its a 4koma as well..4komas are a pain

[nero12]

and its a 4koma as well..4komas are a pain

wat!? 4koma comedy are my favourite type of manga behind tragedy!!:p

[cloud04]

wat!? 4koma comedy are my favourite type of manga behind tragedy!!:p

yea they are fun, but working with them is a pain

[Zakoo]

This would earn you a cookie...

I'm pretty sure Kurulu doesn't really care about it all that much,

That's what her face says, deep in her mind actually ...

[ZeKeR]

that's what her face says, deep in her mind actually ...

aww yis xd

[assmdxd]

i want to start reading this novel but some i can"t find it ... why
and where can i read it or at least download pdf

[akim36]

go to setsunas blog

[DarkSilverSky]

i want to start reading this novel but some i can"t find it ... why
and where can i read it or at least download pdf

You can read it at setsunablog and if you want pdf you can probably find them in the comments.

[Kuronosu]

Just start reading this series, and like it very much.
also i never know Kasuga Ayumu was so good at drawing Mecha.
Can't wait to see Yoruko Divine Drag-ride!

[KyuubiUnleashed]

Vol 5 Cover
http://i.imgur.com/ZcfMvVB.jpg

[RED IV]

cannot wait to meet the new girl

[DragonKing0117]

In the latest news, Setsuna's currently translating manga chapter 5.

[NovelReader]

Sigh so much to read this month. Rakudai 6 and Saijaku 5..

[nooneagain]

I want to read this! haha
but I want to know of the mc's personality archetype? is he close to being a sensual guy? or a calm and silent type? lol
and lastly is he a senpai to the girls? or are they of the same age?

[Trung-t-rung]

I want to read this! haha
but I want to know of the mc's personality archetype? is he close to being a sensual guy? or a calm and silent type? lol
and lastly is he a senpai to the girls? or are they of the same age?

Probably a shy shota character wit a hidden badass side. And he's a second year in the academy so there'are still heroines older than him.

[nooneagain]

^how far have you read already?

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

^im gonna ask this question why cant u just read it if u wanna read it read it regardless of the story

[nooneagain]

@Imperialflame....hmmm you got me hahah
okay, I should have said, I'm considering reading it
I might read it but not for now, I have other things to do.
I was just curious about the mc's personality and other info, I have gone to other sites, but I didn't get the info that I'm looking(maybe I wasn't looking further enough XD) so I came here to ask few questions regarding LN. sorry if I turned out to be annoying though

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

its got nothing to do with annoying but its one of those if u wanna read it read it and what if the character is a nusance u wont read it. I can live with that especially since u'll answer most of the questions rather quickly in many cases

[nooneagain]

ahh I see. thanks.. haha thought you were mad. I'll be back after I read it a bit.

[Zakoo]

Horrible month.

Saijaku v5, runes factory 4, and exams in one week.

Horrible month.

[digitalak27]

can someone translate this? Its the synopsis of the novel.

書き下ろしショートストーリー4Pリーフレット付き!!
※無くなり次第終了となりますのでご了承ください。


旧帝国『最後の従者』にして、――『最凶の刺客』、登場!

「初めまして主様。暗殺でも、雑用でも――わたくしの身体をお好きに使っていただいても構いま せんわ」
ルクスの前に現れた少女、切姫夜架。かつて『帝国の凶刃』と呼ばれた彼女は、ルクスを慕い世話を焼こうとし つつ、
新王国の滅亡と帝国の再興を求め、学園に波紋を呼ぶ。

そして、ついに王都で始まった校外対抗戦――全竜戦で新たな強敵も現れる一方、
反乱軍による『帝都奪還計画』を阻止すべく、ルクスは執政院から重大な任務を与えられる。

秘められた過去の因縁と、新王国を狙う策謀が姿を現したとき、王都は未曾有の危機を迎え、開戦 する!

王道と覇道が交錯する、“最強"の学園ファンタジーバトル第5弾!

[Zakoo]

旧帝国『最後の従者』にして、――『最凶の刺客』、登場!

The last follower of the empire, the "most cruel assassin" appears.

「初めまして主様。暗殺でも、雑用でも――わたくしの身体をお好きに使っていただいても構いま せんわ」
ルクスの前に現れた少女、切姫夜架。かつて『帝国の凶刃』と呼ばれた彼女は、ルクスを慕い世話 を焼こうとし つつ、
新王国の滅亡と帝国の再興を求め、学園に波紋を呼ぶ。

"Nice to meet you my master. For assassination, or for other use, I wouldn't mind if you were to use my body as you felt like it."
The girl who appeared in front of Lux, Yoruko kirihime. In the past she used to be called the blade of the empire, now ( not sure of what's next ) burning of passion towards Lux, she wishes for the renewal of the empire and the destruction of the kingdom, bringing disorder to the school.

そして、ついに王都で始まった校外対抗戦――全竜戦で新たな強敵も現れる一方、
反乱軍による『帝都奪還計画』を阻止すべく、ルクスは執政院から重大な任務を与えられる。

And finally beginning at the capital, the tournament. In the midst of such fights, a new powerful ennemy appears, while at the same time to prevent the incoming attack from the rebel troops, Lux is given by the ministry an important task.

秘められた過去の因縁と、新王国を狙う策謀が姿を現したとき、王都は未曾有の危機を迎え、開戦 する!

( don't understand the first part, something along) the cause of the hidden past and the disclose of the machination which aim at the kingdom. For the first time, the capital will face an unprecedented crisis, the fight begins !

王道と覇道が交錯する、“最強"の学園ファンタジーバトル第5弾!

Awkward translation, reading for yourself and reading for others are so different actions.

[RED IV]

旧帝国『最後の従者』にして、――『最凶の刺客』、登場!

The last follower of the empire, the "most cruel assassin" appears.

「初めまして主様。暗殺でも、雑用でも――わたくしの身体をお好きに使っていただいても構いま せんわ」
ルクスの前に現れた少女、切姫夜架。かつて『帝国の凶刃』と呼ばれた彼女は、ルクスを慕い世話 を焼こうとし つつ、
新王国の滅亡と帝国の再興を求め、学園に波紋を呼ぶ。

"Nice to meet you my master. For assassination, or for other use, I wouldn't mind if you were to use my body as you felt like it."
The girl who appeared in front of Lux, Yoruko kirihime. In the past she used to be called the blade of the empire, now ( not sure of what's next ) burning of passion towards Lux, she wishes for the renewal of the empire and the destruction of the kingdom, bringing disorder to the school.

そして、ついに王都で始まった校外対抗戦――全竜戦で新たな強敵も現れる一方、
反乱軍による『帝都奪還計画』を阻止すべく、ルクスは執政院から重大な任務を与えられる。

And finally beginning at the capital, the tournament. In the midst of such fights, a new powerful ennemy appears, while at the same time to prevent the incoming attack from the rebel troops, Lux is given by the ministry an important task.

秘められた過去の因縁と、新王国を狙う策謀が姿を現したとき、王都は未曾有の危機を迎え、開戦 する!

( don't understand the first part, something along) the cause of the hidden past and the disclose of the machination which aim at the kingdom. For the first time, the capital will face an unprecedented crisis, the fight begins !

王道と覇道が交錯する、“最強"の学園ファンタジーバトル第5弾!

Awkward translation, reading for yourself and reading for others are so different actions.
Thanks for the translation,really appreciate bro

[SineMora]

So wait, she was there to kill Lux? OHOHOHOHOHOOOOO BOY.... and with the coming war, I smell teamwork... and a delicious volume!

[Zakoo]

So wait, she was there to kill Lux? OHOHOHOHOHOOOOO BOY.... and with the coming war, I smell teamwork... and a delicious volume!

I must be pretty bad if you understood such things, what parts made you think this so I can change it?

[Ophis]

So wait, she was there to kill Lux? OHOHOHOHOHOOOOO BOY.... and with the coming war, I smell teamwork... and a delicious volume!

LoL how the hell did you interpret it that way? :twitch:

[hitotake]

So wait, she was there to kill Lux? OHOHOHOHOHOOOOO BOY.... and with the coming war, I smell teamwork... and a delicious volume!
for me i think she want lux to use her (for anything) :heh:

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

for me i think she want lux to use her (for anything) :heh:

precisely she believes that Lux as the last member of the old empire is her master she's not there to kill Lux its more like she's there to work for Lux in any capacity... this sounds fun

[XFire]

So wait, she was there to kill Lux? OHOHOHOHOHOOOOO BOY.... and with the coming war, I smell teamwork... and a delicious volume!

How did you get that? It literally says she called him her master and said he could use her for whatever he wanted.

[Zanfow]

旧帝国『最後の従者』にして、――『最凶の刺客』、登場!

The last follower of the empire, the "most cruel assassin" appears.

「初めまして主様。暗殺でも、雑用でも――わたくしの身体をお好きに使っていただいても構いま せんわ」
ルクスの前に現れた少女、切姫夜架。かつて『帝国の凶刃』と呼ばれた彼女は、ルクスを慕い世話 を焼こうとし つつ、
新王国の滅亡と帝国の再興を求め、学園に波紋を呼ぶ。

"Nice to meet you my master. For assassination, or for other use, I wouldn't mind if you were to use my body as you felt like it."
The girl who appeared in front of Lux, Yoruko kirihime. In the past she used to be called the blade of the empire, now ( not sure of what's next ) burning of passion towards Lux, she wishes for the renewal of the empire and the destruction of the kingdom, bringing disorder to the school.

そして、ついに王都で始まった校外対抗戦――全竜戦で新たな強敵も現れる一方、
反乱軍による『帝都奪還計画』を阻止すべく、ルクスは執政院から重大な任務を与えられる。

And finally beginning at the capital, the tournament. In the midst of such fights, a new powerful ennemy appears, while at the same time to prevent the incoming attack from the rebel troops, Lux is given by the ministry an important task.

秘められた過去の因縁と、新王国を狙う策謀が姿を現したとき、王都は未曾有の危機を迎え、開戦 する!

( don't understand the first part, something along) the cause of the hidden past and the disclose of the machination which aim at the kingdom. For the first time, the capital will face an unprecedented crisis, the fight begins !

王道と覇道が交錯する、“最強"の学園ファンタジーバトル第5弾!

Awkward translation, reading for yourself and reading for others are so different actions.

From the moment i saw her illustration i knew she wouldn't disappoint me and there we go =D

[cloud04]

so she wants lux to rule again something like that?

[DragonKing0117]

so she wants lux to rule again something like that?

She just wants Lux period if the synopsis is anything to go by. :heh:

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

so she wants lux to rule again something like that?

my impression is that she wants Lux to rebel against the new empire and while using her as a tool bring the old empire back to power.... wait until she realizes he was the black hero who helped destroy the empire.

[Nishaven]

From the moment i saw her illustration i knew she wouldn't disappoint me and there we go =D

Can you post the illustration please?

[ChuckE]

How strong MC in comparison to other characters?

[DragonKing0117]

I am gonna love volume 5 when setsuna find the time to translate it. I love the cover.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0DKi53CMAAj95c.jpg:large Kurulucifer's toughest rival?

Here she is!

[RED IV]

Here she is!
Attention all Kurulucifer fans,your queen has tough competition in this round

[Zakoo]

How strong MC in comparison to other characters?

Divinity and its believers. (Volume 4)

[RED IV]

Divinity and its believers. (Volume 4)
I don't get it

[Breimoon]

Think of Jesus and his harem of 12 apostles.

[ChuckE]

Divinity and its believers. (Volume 4)

Followed:D

[Zakoo]

I don't get it

Because you didn't read V4 that's all, once you read it you will understand how almightly Lux is, no kidding.

[XFire]

How strong MC in comparison to other characters?

There isn't a comparison to be had.

Lux has several things going for him.

One is Bahamut and its "Reload on Fire" ability which is basically Kiritsugu Emiya's Time Alter without limits or after effects.

Two, he's a genius. And I don't mean genius as in him being instinctively better. I mean genius as in he can literally predict everything that is going to happen in a battle of hundreds of Drag-Rides without flaw, and manipulate it however he wants.

Three, he designed the Three Royal Techniques (or whatever they're called) which include Quick Draw, which is so fast a Divine Drag Ride user can't see it, and an Overload technique that one shotted Azi Dahaka with both Lux's and Kuru's abilities.

And this isn't even everything. Remember in the very first chapter where one Drag Ride was killing 1200 other Drag Rides all at once? That was Lux. He's invincible in direct combat.

[RED IV]

Because you didn't read V4 that's all, once you read it you will understand how almightly Lux is, no kidding.
Then please enlighten through PM or else setsuna will kill us both

[ChuckE]

There isn't a comparison to be had.

Lux has several things going for him.

One is Bahamut and its "Reload on Fire" ability which is basically Kiritsugu Emiya's Time Alter without limits or after effects.

Two, he's a genius. And I don't mean genius as in him being instinctively better. I mean genius as in he can literally predict everything that is going to happen in a battle of hundreds of Drag-Rides without flaw, and manipulate it however he wants.

Three, he designed the Three Royal Techniques (or whatever they're called) which include Quick Draw, which is so fast a Divine Drag Ride user can't see it, and an Overload technique that one shotted Azi Dahaka with both Lux's and Kuru's abilities.

And this isn't even everything. Remember in the very first chapter where one Drag Ride was killing 1200 other Drag Rides all at once? That was Lux. He's invincible in direct combat.

I finished the 1st volume and MC does not seem to be THAT powerful. Yes he is strong and all but not overpowered.
And I'm curious

What was the sword in the prologue? I mean the one
I’ll give that to you. The “power” that will change fate—that sword device that is. So flee while taking that with you. This castle will go down very soon, lady.”

and also

How strong is Fugil is?


So I believe it's too much spoilers to ask. :heh:

[Zakoo]

Then please enlighten through PM or else setsuna will kill us both

Everything is in the picture posted some pages before :

http://i.imgur.com/NTDZz4v.jpg


@above : we don't know for fugil yet.

[RED IV]

Everything is in the picture posted some pages before :

http://i.imgur.com/NTDZz4v.jpg


@above : we don't know for fugil yet.
does this form offer new abilities

[NovelReader]

does this form offer new abilities

Its his overlimit mode, he had to use it in vol 4 to defeat Hayes.

[ZeKeR]

speaking of which, I still rather want to know what the nature of his requests are for the ladies, be it his juniors or the onee-san seniors.

[DragonKing0117]

Think of Jesus and his harem of 12 apostles.

Because of you, I now have the idea of genderbent apostles following Jesus in a harem comedy setting and genderbent Jesus and his reverse harem of 12 slaves apostles.

On that note, I've also been given the idea to a story involving the concepts of the 12 apostles.

[XFire]

Think of Jesus and his harem of 12 apostles.

Because of you, I now have the idea of genderbent apostles following Jesus in a harem comedy setting and genderbent Jesus and his reverse harem of 12 slaves apostles.

On that note, I've also been given the idea to a story involving the concepts of the 12 apostles.

http://i.imgur.com/Y8Zma6R.jpg

[rickiminato]

Who is the enemy of the volume 4?

[DragonKing0117]

http://i.imgur.com/Y8Zma6R.jpg

This made my day... for what two hours have been of it. :heh:

As for Volume 4, it's best to just wait patiently as trying to find spoilers here is like trying to find water in the desert. :heh:

[NovelReader]

This made my day... for what two hours have been of it. :heh:

As for Volume 4, it's best to just wait patiently as trying to find spoilers here is like trying to find water in the desert. :heh:

Yup, don't feel like spoiling too much.

[Amanomurakumo]

Yup, don't feel like spoiling too much.

The bad guy is a person who wants to do evil deeds.:heh:

[Mirable]

character information Yuruko
http://i.imgur.com/rR86A3e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rj4AL5.jpg
http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/cat381/021038/

For more information if you interesting go here.

http://i.imgur.com/kF7fnu7.jpg

[bakato]

character information Yuruko
http://i.imgur.com/rR86A3e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rj4AL5.jpg
http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/cat381/021038/

For more information if you interesting go here.

http://i.imgur.com/kF7fnu7.jpg

Her Drag-Ride looks frickin' awesome. You've got some serious competition Philphie.

[Ophis]

character information Yuruko
http://i.imgur.com/rR86A3e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rj4AL5.jpg
http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/cat381/021038/

For more information if you interesting go here.

http://i.imgur.com/kF7fnu7.jpg

Okay. Yuruko, I shall now make you my waifu!!! :love:

Her Drag-Ride looks frickin' awesome. You've got some serious competition Philphie.

Drag-Ride? What Drag-Ride? :rolleyes: Me see nothin' like dat. :p

[bakato]

http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/images2/1412/20141209sashie03.jpg

Lux you player. With Yoruko putting the moves on you, you still have room to play with Celestia?

[SineMora]

character information Yuruko
http://i.imgur.com/rR86A3e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rj4AL5.jpg
http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/cat381/021038/

For more information if you interesting go here.

http://i.imgur.com/kF7fnu7.jpg

Beaten kuru by a freaking mile. Stop the coincidence a girl suddenly busts out of the door in their love nest... That archetype isn't welcome here! LET HER DO LUX GOOD, REAL GOOD!

[hitotake]

《夜刀ノ神（ヤトノカミ）》 "yato no kami" is her drag ride name? (cant read the kanji) :heh:
and drake type ..

[bnguyen14]

character information Yuruko
http://i.imgur.com/rR86A3e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rj4AL5.jpg
http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/cat381/021038/

For more information if you interesting go here.

http://i.imgur.com/kF7fnu7.jpg

I was right! Kurulucifer's rival is crashing da party!

[Ophis]

They're doing a 3P there. The pics are all connected. fufu :naughty: /jokes

Seriously, Celestia and Yuruko are so in my strike zone that they're now my "Twin Goddesses". :love:

[SineMora]

http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/images2/1412/20141209sashie03.jpg

Lux you player. With Yoruko putting the moves on you, you still have room to play with Celestia?

Lux needs to rebuild an empire not a puny kingdom... He needs every noblewoman from every country that he can get to make it legit.

[DragonKing0117]

This is Yato-no-Kami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yato-no-kami). Considering snakes are basically dragons in most Asian mythology, Yoruko's Drag-Ride being a snake deity makes sense.

On that note... Damnit Yoruko! Why are you so hot! :sad: My loyalty to Kurulucifer as best girl is slipping! No, screw that, I'll take them both as best girl!!!

[ZeKeR]

how does it feel Lux, to have felt your first large boobs from the strongest female(?) rider there is?

[bnguyen14]

My loyalty to Kurulucifer as best girl is slipping! No, screw that, I'll take them both as best girl!!!

Nice joke mate, as if there was such a thing call "loyalty" in this =.= as soon as the better girl appear, you jump ship (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ and don't go around two timing! You'll get yourself kill! by the girls

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Nice joke mate, as if there was such a thing call "loyalty" in this =.= as soon as the better girl appear, you jump ship (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ and don't go around two timing! You'll get yourself kill! by the girls

i agree loyalty changes so quickly its boring

[Hiyono]

character information Yuruko
http://i.imgur.com/rR86A3e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6rj4AL5.jpg
http://ga.sbcr.jp/bunko_blog/cat381/021038/

For more information if you interesting go here.

http://i.imgur.com/kF7fnu7.jpg
A wild Strike Freedom appears!

[cloud04]

wow her unit looks more like a final boss LOL oh and vol 1 of the manga is out

[DragonKing0117]

Nice joke mate, as if there was such a thing call "loyalty" in this =.= as soon as the better girl appear, you jump ship (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ and don't go around two timing! You'll get yourself kill! by the girls

Hey, hey, it's all in fun you know. Personally I don't generally have best girls for harem series, I prefer all the girls (HAHAHA! :D), though I like some more than others. Despite that, I do admit that no matter what happens, I don't think anyone will beat Kurulucifer in terms of personality even if I like a different girl more. *Cough*Yoruko*Cough* So I can safely give her Best Personality and not think anyone else will get it.

[ZeKeR]

who knows, she may very well take a "first" of Lux where Kurulu could not take (I doubt if the girls actually even find out she kissed him... twice even and will take it not too kindly) or even Airi has not done and Phi is silent.

[DragonKing0117]

who knows, she may very well take a "first" of Lux where Kurulu could not take (I doubt if the girls actually even find out she kissed him... twice even and will take it not too kindly) or even Airi has not done and Phi is silent.

Lizsharte walked in on the two during the second kiss, so at the very least, she knows. Also, this is Kurulucifer we're talking about. She probably told Lisha she kissed him twice just to troll her. :heh: It's not like every character doesn't already troll her anyway. :rolleyes:

[cloud04]

i bet after the vol she'll probably enroll to the class they she probably says, she's his "plaything"

[DragonKing0117]

i bet after the vol she'll probably enroll to the class they she probably says, she's his "plaything"

Why don't you just go straight to the point and say toy? :eyebrow: It's like what the official translators did to that particular answer of a certain masochistic witch. :heh:

[cloud04]

Why don't you just go straight to the point and say toy? :eyebrow: It's like what the official translators did to that particular answer of a certain masochistic witch. :heh:

plaything sounds more naughty ;p

[ChuckE]

Just finished the second volume.
And I have a question

What monster Barzeride was talking about? I mean Rangarok or something like this...Is it somewhere in volume illustrations for the next volumes?

[DragonKing0117]

Just finished the second volume.
And I have a question

What monster Barzeride was talking about? I mean Rangarok or something like this...Is it somewhere in volume illustrations for the next volumes?


Going by Volume 3 illustrations, it's a giant squid. Maybe it's a Kraken.

[hitotake]

This is Yato-no-Kami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yato-no-kami). Considering snakes are basically dragons in most Asian mythology, Yoruko's Drag-Ride being a snake deity makes sense.

On that note... Damnit Yoruko! Why are you so hot! :sad: My loyalty to Kurulucifer as best girl is slipping! No, screw that, I'll take them both as best girl!!!

divine drag ride with "you see me you dead" origin background and used for assassination :heh:

still i like the design even i cant tell which one is the leg parts :D

[Zakoo]

Kitaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, it's finally here, right in the middle of my week of exam, hell yeah.

Here is a little image of my goddess, the one I never betrayed, the only one my kururucifer :

http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_628845Saijaku10000.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=628845Saijaku10000.jpg)

Seems like Yoruko is stronk, very STRONK