Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Discussion about Other Topics

[Verisimilitude]

He'd also like to do more about the Kuroba's too, since he envisions them doing totally different things from what Tatsuya does.

[pampz21]

So Kyouko is Satou's favorite character....Hmmmm;HMmm otona no miryoku.

Anyway he wanted to write a past episode for Miki; I guess he doesnt have time or freedom to put it in the current story arc anymore; Cuz Miki is able to use his magic properly now.

A SS for Erika and Leo would be something I want to read; It can be put anywhere from past to present story as a matter of fact he can put it in the Rozen arc.

[IceHism]

Miki and erika+ leo side story? I wonder where the author intends to take the direction of this story if he plans to do that.

Found an Dengeki interview with the author where he talks about Mahouka and Dowl Masters. Some info on Vol 14, how he views the anime and more.
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/920/920654/

If anyone could summarise it bettter than Google it would be great.

I hope someone will translate this soon. I always wanted to know more about the author himself.

[Lucarion]

I gave it a run through google translator and here's what I got out of the interview. (I'll only mention the parts that I could somehow make-out)

According to Satou-sensei: Of course, he was happy to see his work animated. But even he had a few gripes with the anime, such as missing little details, and said that the Nine Schools Arc didn't lend itself well for animation, and felt that a lot of it probably went past the heads of the people who haven't read his work and therefore, have no idea what's going on. When asked by the interviewer about the book being superior, he mentioned that he's just happy the anime exists and to just take it is as another thing to enjoy. Enjoy the anime if you enjoy the anime; enjoy the novels if you like the novels. He just wants people to have fun with his work which he believes is his primary objective.

Other fun pieces of information include:

1) He likes the seiyuu cast. Also, he says his character's voices have changed into the voices of the seiyuus in his head. (He laughs after that)

2) He's an avid fantasy and scifi reader, and is apparently a fan of Michael Moorcock's "Elric Saga" (makes sense), and the scifi series "Perry Rhodan" (which I now believe might have influenced how Mahouka was written and arranged in a major way.)

[pampz21]

Miki and erika+ leo side story? I wonder where the author intends to take the direction of this story if he plans to do that.



I hope someone will translate this soon. I always wanted to know more about the author himself.

Iam wondering if it your normal Royalty BS ;one princess thrown out of the candidacy but retained her guardian then few years later they want to put her back as a candidate because the favorite turn out to be an ass.

[IceHism]

I gave it a run through google translator and here's what I got out of the interview. (I'll only mention the parts that I could somehow make-out)

According to Satou-sensei: Of course, he was happy to see his work animated. But even he had a few gripes with the anime, such as missing little details, and said that the Nine Schools Arc didn't lend itself well for animation, and felt that a lot of it probably went past the heads of the people who haven't read his work and therefore, have no idea what's going on. When asked by the interviewer about the book being superior, he mentioned that he's just happy the anime exists and to just take it is as another thing to enjoy. Enjoy the anime if you enjoy the anime; enjoy the novels if you like the novels. He just wants people to have fun with his work which he believes is his primary objective.

Other fun pieces of information include:

1) He likes the seiyuu cast. Also, he says his character's voices have changed into the voices of the seiyuus in his head. (He laughs after that)

2) He's an avid fantasy and scifi reader, and is apparently a fan of Michael Moorcock's "Elric Saga" (makes sense), and the scifi series "Perry Rhodan" (which I now believe might have influenced how Mahouka was written and arranged in a major way.)

Unfortunately I haven't read Perry rhodan or heard of it until now. Never actually realized it is the most popular sci-fi opera in the world. Read through the wiki link but what are some examples of mahouka's structure being similar to Perry rhodan's?

I honestly don't think anyone who watches the anime only actually know what's going on with the story. No sense of overarching plot in the show. All the little but important things getting cut out. I'm glad its there to promote the light novel but the anime has way too many flaws.

[renuac]

I gave it a run through google translator and here's what I got out of the interview. (I'll only mention the parts that I could somehow make-out)

According to Satou-sensei: Of course, he was happy to see his work animated. But even he had a few gripes with the anime, such as missing little details, and said that the Nine Schools Arc didn't lend itself well for animation, and felt that a lot of it probably went past the heads of the people who haven't read his work and therefore, have no idea what's going on. When asked by the interviewer about the book being superior, he mentioned that he's just happy the anime exists and to just take it is as another thing to enjoy. Enjoy the anime if you enjoy the anime; enjoy the novels if you like the novels. He just wants people to have fun with his work which he believes is his primary objective.

Putting yourself through the agony of Google translator was brave of you: thanks ^^

How refreshing to see an author who openly criticises the anime adaptation's shortcomings. It sometimes seems like they kind of have to sound entirely positive even about mediocre adaptations so good for Satou-sensei for bucking that trend. And of course he's quite right about just enjoying the anime on its on terms.

So Kyouko is Satou's favorite character.... Hmmmm;HMmm otona no miryoku.

Her and the "Saegusa Mayumi and Watanabe Mari sempai combo" :p

I think he's also saying that vol.4 has a lot of scenes he likes, such as the Monolith Code match against Third High and the scene in which Miyuki sheds tears after the victory, Tatsuya taking out No-Head and the dance scene at the end of the volume.

And for my fellow Tatsuya x Miyuki shippers, all the other scenes Satou-sensei mentions really liking also involve the Shiba siblings: Tatsuya's "awakening" in vol.7, Tatsuya reviving Miyuki in vol.8 and the scene in which they take down the parasite entity together. Yep, definitely powerful and interesting scenes: keep 'em coming, sensei.

[~oNe~]

2) He's an avid fantasy and scifi reader, and is apparently a fan of Michael Moorcock's "Elric Saga" (makes sense), and the scifi series "Perry Rhodan" (which I now believe might have influenced how Mahouka was written and arranged in a major way.)

man, this title quiet long time ago, sound interesting, if nothing happen next month i try seek in library:D

[Lucarion]

Unfortunately I haven't read Perry rhodan or heard of it until now. Never actually realized it is the most popular sci-fi opera in the world. Read through the wiki link but what are some examples of mahouka's structure being similar to Perry rhodan's?

I honestly don't think anyone who watches the anime only actually know what's going on with the story. No sense of overarching plot in the show. All the little but important things getting cut out. I'm glad its there to promote the light novel but the anime has way too many flaws.

Not only that...At first after giving the wiki a quick run through, I thought it just influenced the story structure and setting. When I read it more carefully...I couldn't stop giggling.

Perry Rhodan had a HUGE influence on Mahouka. I haven't even heard of the series until yesterday, but just looking at the wiki made me see a pretty strong connection.

I don't think I can find the words right now to explain it myself...I'll do a bit more research into it, but basically the things it influenced are:

1) The in-world terms such as psions and the "Idea dimension". Also uses Einstein's theories as a basis for some of what happens in the story.
2) The characterization (Tatsuya's character in particular, especially in regards to his godlike and nigh immortal status).
3) The political battles and power struggles (especially between beings of great powers and intelligence.)
4) Complex plot developments and backstories.
5) The emphasis on the setting and an emphasis on the wonders of science and "the great destiny of man".
6) The action.
7) The magic. (Some being in the universe have the ability to warp and bend reality a bit like mages.)


And there's probably a lot more...

It fascinates me. :) So I'll probably looking into this more for a while. I could also probably find some connection with Elric of Melnibone and Tatsuya (seeing as I am an Elric fan myself XD) but for now I'm going to be researching a bit more into the Perry Rhodan universe to see just how deep its influence into my favorite LN series goes.

Putting yourself through the agony of Google translator was brave of you: thanks ^^

How refreshing to see an author who openly criticises the anime adaptation's shortcomings. It sometimes seems like they kind of have to sound entirely positive even about mediocre adaptations so good for Satou-sensei for bucking that trend. And of course he's quite right about just enjoying the anime on its on terms.



Hey there renuac. ^_^ Nice to see us all here again.

But yeah...it's nice of Satou-sensei to be such a good sport about everything.

Also, LOOOKIE LOOKIE! We've got a LOT more stuff to work with now! :D

[Verisimilitude]

Well, I think it was kinda clear from the beginning that Mahouka was very much influenced by SF, and I'm glad the author is so passionate about the genre.

[kusabireika]

Not only that...At first after giving the wiki a quick run through, I thought it just influenced the story structure and setting. When I read it more carefully...I couldn't stop giggling.

Perry Rhodan had a HUGE influence on Mahouka. I haven't even heard of the series until yesterday, but just looking at the wiki made me see a pretty strong connection.

I don't think I can find the words right now to explain it myself...I'll do a bit more research into it, but basically the things it influenced are:

1) The in-world terms such as psions and the "Idea dimension". Also uses Einstein's theories as a basis for some of what happens in the story.
2) The characterization (Tatsuya's character in particular, especially in regards to his godlike and nigh immortal status).
3) The political battles and power struggles (especially between beings of great powers and intelligence.)
4) Complex plot developments and backstories.
5) The emphasis on the setting and an emphasis on the wonders of science and "the great destiny of man".
6) The action.
7) The magic. (Some being in the universe have the ability to warp and bend reality a bit like mages.)


And there's probably a lot more...

It fascinates me. :) So I'll probably looking into this more for a while. I could also probably find some connection with Elric of Melnibone and Tatsuya (seeing as I am an Elric fan myself XD) but for now I'm going to be researching a bit more into the Perry Rhodan universe to see just how deep its influence into my favorite LN series goes.



Hey there renuac. ^_^ Nice to see us all here again.

But yeah...it's nice of Satou-sensei to be such a good sport about everything.

Also, LOOOKIE LOOKIE! We've got a LOT more stuff to work with now! :D
so so :T_T: no hindu reference :T_T:
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welcome back :T_T:
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[Lucarion]

OK, guys? I made a huge booboo.


The part about the Elric and Perry Rhodan, as well as the bit about him saying that you should enjoy the story however you want to enjoy it checks out. But I got someone who actually speaks Japanese to tell me what exactly the interview contained and well...

I made one mistake.

Well, the misunderstanding comes from the part about his insecurities regarding his work not being suitable for adaptation and not being understood by non-readers, but Satou-sensei was overall very pleased with the anime. No gripes with it at all. I read wrong. Sorry.

Additional info: the works of "菊地秀行" (Hideyuki Kikuchi) largely influenced the concepts and principles behind the magic of Mahouka.


so so :T_T: no hindu reference :T_T:
http://eemoticons.net/Upload/Kanade Avatar/Kanade 021.jpg

welcome back :T_T:
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There is, there is. XD He just didn't mention it in the interview, and gave us more stuff to work with though. The mythology is obvious just from reading the story and putting all the pieces together. ^_^ Remember that a piece of art is usually various bits and pieces stolen from other works of art. Like a beautiful Frankenstein's monster.

[kusabireika]

OK, guys? I made a huge booboo.


The part about the Elric and Perry Rhodan, as well as the bit about him saying that you should enjoy the story however you want to enjoy it checks out. But I got someone who actually speaks Japanese to tell me what exactly the interview contained and well...

I made one mistake.

Well, the misunderstanding comes from the part about his insecurities regarding his work not being suitable for adaptation and not being understood by non-readers, but Satou-sensei was overall very pleased with the anime. No gripes with it at all. I read wrong. Sorry.




There is, there is. XD He just didn't mention it in the interview, and gave us more stuff to work with though. The mythology is obvious just from reading the story and putting all the pieces together. ^_^ Remember that a piece of art is usually various bits and pieces stolen from other works of art. Like a beautiful Frankenstein's monster.
I know im just teasing you :kisskiss:
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Well I didnt know about it so it's my fault X___X
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[renuac]

Additional info: the works of "菊地秀行" (Hideyuki Kikuchi) largely influenced the concepts and principles behind the magic of Mahouka.

Interesting. I can certainly see the resemblances between Tatsuya and D (or with Izayoi Kyoya, for that matter). And Zhou could be Dr Mephisto's twin brother :p

I can see how the parasites, the in-depth explanations of magic and the fusion of magic and technology could all be influenced by Kikuchi's works.

[TrueAlchemist]

Found an Dengeki interview with the author where he talks about Mahouka and Dowl Masters. Some info on Vol 14, how he views the anime and more.
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/920/920654/

If anyone could summarise it bettter than Google it would be great.

Thanks you for the link.

The author said he want to write side story about Miki's past and side story focused on Erika and Leo........

I have a bad feeling about this:sad:

Well, I think, if he had a spare time to write Doll master, he should write the volume for side stories for these two characters. It is true, a lot of fans like to hear about the behind story of Erika, Leo, Miki, Honoka, and Mizuki in detail, but no one would want to hinder the story progress of Mahouka.

By the way, what is the sales volume of doll master?
If it is low, Kadokawa will probably persuade Tsutomu to write about the volume for other characters besides this doll master.

So Kyouko is Satou's favorite character....Hmmmm;HMmm otona no miryoku.



You are right. I think Tsutomu likes the women (not girls lol) who kick ass more than sitting behind.

[~oNe~]

Not only that...At first after giving the wiki a quick run through, I thought it just influenced the story structure and setting. When I read it more carefully...I couldn't stop giggling.

Perry Rhodan had a HUGE influence on Mahouka. I haven't even heard of the series until yesterday, but just looking at the wiki made me see a pretty strong connection.

I don't think I can find the words right now to explain it myself...I'll do a bit more research into it, but basically the things it influenced are:

1) The in-world terms such as psions and the "Idea dimension". Also uses Einstein's theories as a basis for some of what happens in the story.
2) The characterization (Tatsuya's character in particular, especially in regards to his godlike and nigh immortal status).
3) The political battles and power struggles (especially between beings of great powers and intelligence.)
4) Complex plot developments and backstories.
5) The emphasis on the setting and an emphasis on the wonders of science and "the great destiny of man".
6) The action.
7) The magic. (Some being in the universe have the ability to warp and bend reality a bit like mages.)


And there's probably a lot more...

It fascinates me. :) So I'll probably looking into this more for a while. I could also probably find some connection with Elric of Melnibone and Tatsuya (seeing as I am an Elric fan myself XD) but for now I'm going to be researching a bit more into the Perry Rhodan universe to see just how deep its influence into my favorite LN series goes.



Hey there renuac. ^_^ Nice to see us all here again.

But yeah...it's nice of Satou-sensei to be such a good sport about everything.

Also, LOOOKIE LOOKIE! We've got a LOT more stuff to work with now! :D

Thats it:eyespin:.....
no wonder mohouka world in 2096 look irregular/weird if compare to this current world we live in.
Effective of 'magic' really overshadowing real tech in mahouka universe:heh:

but seriously, keep magic aside, mahoukaverse weapon tech only certain part are trully advance like ekoskeleton suit....
other than that.....meh, our world current tech still 'overkill'....

plus, tech base mahoukaverse magic like decomposition beam and barrier already exist but as a barrier we still dont understand how they make it work, mizuki 'crystal eyes' already use by on-foot and mobile unit, leo panzer still under development for mobile unit but most current priority are highspeed aircraft/space shuttle, and i think 'high speed rifle' to againts magician probably are mobile railgun in rifle form:rolleyes:

[TrueAlchemist]

I do not know whether it is a good place to post.
But, anyone tried the App game of Mahouka, the Lost Zero, yet.
I think, it is a good game to enjoy for Mahouka fans.

[Echizen777]

I do not know whether it is a good place to post.
But, anyone tried the App game of Mahouka, the Lost Zero, yet.
I think, it is a good game to enjoy for Mahouka fans.

Lost Zero thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=127840)

It's in the anime section.

[TrueAlchemist]

Thanks you Echizen777

[TrueAlchemist]

Dengeki Mao 2014 November issue will have the trump cards with Mahouka

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[Clutchdog]

Has there been any discussion about licensing the novels now that the anime is out? They're obviously very popular in Japan, but I have a slight worry that it might be deemed as less profitable in the western market.

Although, No game no life did get licensed as well and it's arguably even more controversial.

[IceHism]

Has there been any discussion about licensing the novels now that the anime is out? They're obviously very popular in Japan, but I have a slight worry that it might be deemed as less profitable in the western market.

Although, No game no life did get licensed as well and it's arguably even more controversial.

Never seen any discussion about that.

I don't think it will. NGNL is under a different publisher and the author for it is Brazilian so he might have a lot of interest in spreading his work throughout the western world. It's also really comedic in nature

I don't really know if Satou even cares about the western market but i still don't think it will get licensed. Oreimo never got licensed here either despite the fact that LN was a megahit and you can probably guess why it never really did...

[Echizen777]

There are at least 4 fighting cards

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img213.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/3/8/0/2/xxxwgwingzero-img600x450-1411803053c1c2q520880.jpg

Didn't find the back of Miyuki and Mayumi's cards though.

[IceHism]

I asked for this interview to get translated



Author of 'The Irregular at Magic High School' Tsutomu Sato gives interview in Dengeki online

Translation by tokpopandbeyond@www.onehallyu.com

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Held during the current "Evolution declaration! Dengeki FIGHTING Fair". In Dengeki Bunko online is going to be 4 interviews with different authors,by the Dengeki online team.The third one,is an interview with Sato Tsutomu sensei.

And this time,it is an interview with Tsutomu Sato sensei whose work 'The Irregular at Magic High School' turned into an anime and his most recent work 'DOWLS Masters' including SF robot action combined with robot ESP has been published recently.Dengeki online asked Tsutomu Sato sensei about the opportunities and the feelings of publishing his works and what triggered his debut.

I contributed a work for the Media Works Dengeki Novel Prize

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-Please tell us first about how did you apply for the Dengeki Novel Prize

Tsutomu sensei:I applied for the Dengeki Novel prize award,because,not only it was announced on the Web,not only because it is an evaluation towards my main profession,but the biggest motivation for me is the implication that this competition is a trial of strength.This was also,written on the web,so i wrote a new work and applied.Apart from that,the main reason why i chose to compete for the Dengeki Novel Prize is because there is a ground where the work of various genres is received for the grand prix.That is the one thought that it matches my type.

-For the new series 'DOWL Masters',the submitted manuscript of that time seems to become the base,how long did it take you to make any revisions?

Tsutomu sensei:I hardly keep the original form,to keep my work at a good level I do make revisions.It goes without saying that i even change the title.The name 'DOWL' was also considered to be 'Titanic DOWL' and 'Gigantic DOWL',also i thought about using the abbreviation 'Gigadoll'.The character of Mayuri was initially a man and the name of the heroine wasn't Reine.

I also recomposed the story from the beginning.The subbmited manuscript starts from the 'Hazy Moon' scene,where the escaped troops are beaten down.The battles of Aoi,Akari and Ryuuichi,were only slightly mentioned.More directly,the main event was the development that the island port of the artificial celestial bodies was attacked.The parts that have not been changed are the police,the Solar System Alliance,the construction of the DOWLs,the creation of the Cyclonics.I set up these parts which really became the framework for the story.

-Please,tell us how did you have the chance for a new series.

Tsutomu-sensei:Because there was a gap in the publication schedule of 'The Irregular at Magic High School',i wanted to do a new series so,i asked the editor if i could do it and that's the occassion that triggered the new series.Another reason is because the anime version of the 'Irregular at Magic High School' is being aired, i thought that this is a good timing for a chance to start a new series.I was blessed with good luck to be able to see my debut turning into an anime series,but the cards in my hands were only a single series and the present conditions included uneasiness too.

-It seems to be hard to write 2 series in parallel,how did you managed?

Tsutomu-sensei:The switching in my head between the stories do not bother me,but when the amount of work truly increases,then it is hard (laughs)

-On the topic of beginning a new series,i heard that there was another candidate except 'DOWL Masters',what kind of work could that be?

Tsutomu-sensei:Eh..Yes this work is said to be 'boy meets girl',no,it is even called 'young man meets boy'.I say it honestly that other than 'DOWL Masters' i don't think that there was a better planning for a light novel.But,for this work i also received the evaluation of 'This is not like Tsutomu Saitou work' from my editor.Besides,whether it will sell or not 'DOWL Masters' is the kind of work that i wanted to write,that is why now i am allowed to publish 'DOWL Masters'.

-Both the 'Irregular at Magic High School' and 'DOWL Masters' are stories that take place in the future,is this some kind of obsession for Tsutomu-sensei?

Tsutomu-sensei:This may not be an obsession,but when writing a story that takes place in the past,you must get a grip of this era by doing historical research,right? To write for the world of the future and working to bring all the things together as to match and make sense is hard,but because it is exactly like that it can be carried out in my head.Because i wear two pairs of straw sandals one of a salary man and one of a writer,it is the reason why it is difficult to assign much time to matter for inquiry.If I want to become a full-time writer,i may write a historic work ,but only after I check thoroughly the historic facts.


After the postscript is perceived,how do you think writing about robots?

Tsutomu-sensei: I am allowed to write for fun.When we are talking about a robot-theme story,for the writer especially isn't something special.I think that it is not different from an action novel basically.I particularly reduced the element of shooting in 'DOWL Masters' and hand to hand fight becomes the central figure.Therefore in the story there was some similarities with the romantic novels and the swordsman novels.

I rather adopt restrictions to what extend i set up a scene moving in outer space,but how far does it take you to ignore those restrictions?It is said that the choice is rather special.Because it is set in outer space and because there is no air in outer space,the wings cannot move,so,you must let a booster to jet out in order to move further,i do not know whether i am understandable by the readers,i cannot judge unless i look to the sales of the second volume which comes out in december.

-In many anime series,i feel that description to retro-fire(rocket jet engine)is rarely described,but such thing is described in detail in 'DOWL Masters'

Tsutomu-sensei:I'm aware of it,that is my obsession,right?

When you create a series do you know exactly the length of the story?

Tsutomu-sensei:How much will it take,i think it is up to sales,but i intend to bring it into conclusion compactly.

-For someone who hasn't read 'DOWL Masters' I would like you to descripe us the charm and the reading highlight of this work.

Tsutomu-sensei:Because it is a story about robot battles.At first you can read it while imagining the battle between large size robots raising above ground into space travelling all over and fighting.I turn on the description to help the imagination and the pleasure doubles if you can read the story having in mind the image of a whole body armor soldier(robot) at the same level as a 5 stored building fighting with a spear and a Japanese halberd.

In 'DOWL Masters' we have 4 main characters.Each and everyone of these get into the Titanic Dowl for their own reasons.The person who cuts down the others for the shake of his own pride,the person who accepts oneself and sticks to responsibility,The person who is trapped by the past and wants to defeat the enemy,the person who is thirsty for power above anything else.Among those characters,for the girls of the story,it is understandable why they came to the 'DOWL' and there are some characters whose objectives are still obscure.Moving back and forth,love and hatred create the drama which plays a serious part.Also the circumstances do not allow our characters to stop from developing and while they are at a loss it is enjoyable for the reader.Romance,also will became a serious element of this work.Later,this is partly a promise,this work will include quite such scenes between girls.Of course,it is all in age range.

I want to write stories that the characters evolve with all their strength

-Next,I will ask you about the 'Irregular at Magic High School'. A work which is already been published by the Web media.Tell us the process of how it was published for the Dengeki Bunko.

Tsutomu-sensei:In the beginning through the site that i contributed,i received a call from my editor Miki.That time I thought continuing as an amateur,i felt that was on my limit mentally and physically.But,i thought that if it was provided as an income in a form of publication,then i would might get permission to conclude this work.I wrote the details of this story at the end of the first volume of 'The Irregular at Magic High School'

While i was adding episodes to the story which were not included in the postscript,in fact there was a teaser from another company too.It's just that the other company came later in contact than the ASCII Media Works.After all,i think that the one that had invited you earlier is your first priority and i tried to catch the editorial's department attention with my work,but with my first try they rejected the 'Irregular at Magic High School' with poor results,then i proposed 'DOWL Masters' because i thought it was a good time to promote it.I did not know if i got to convice the company.

-It must have called you because he read the work for the competition entry,was it like that?

Tsutomu-sensei:It looks that it happened like this.But the name by which i submitted my work and the name which was published on the web,are different.But even though those two names could not be connected to each other my editor noticed it (laughs)

-Does that mean that Tsutomu sensei wants to write 'The Irregular At Magic High School'?

Tsutomu-sensei:I wanted to write about cool characters who participate in excilarating and energetic activities.The time i begun to write 'The Irregular at Magic High School' a gentle hero appeared,if anything i'm being selfish,because there's a friendly heroine too and the story progresses as those two find trouble.I think works of such type were many,not limited to light novels.At that time,by chance i was looking for a book to read to the kids of the lower grades of elemenatery school,but the bookstore did not have the adventure fighting scene-like thing that i was reading in my childhood days.It is not that the quality of the written work is poor,it's that there's only picture books about good manners.I felt dissatisfaction in such a place.

It is a little insane and somewhat refreshing,words may not be a good idea but we have characters who remain calm even if they kill.I wanted to draw that kind of characters who can change with all their might and move forward.

Moreover,the motive is the theme of the poor/inferior student.The evaluation of the organization and value of the people are another thing.Because i wanted to write not only about the existence of the students but also about their popularity
Having made the chief character a high school student, i also 'imagining myself as a high school student' .This is because i thought that high school students have a tendency to have an illusion of themselves.Although,i want to say that it is not only this.

About the world situation in the novel,if one step was wrong i came back over and thinking about the time frame i rewrote it.I had the desire of no longer wanting to waste what was already reflected,things like technology in everyday life,or the traffic congestion.I also thought if there is really magic or supernatural powers from the old times how does it act?I made a game using these kind of questions.In that way i made a combination of a various parts that came to become 'The Irregular at Magic High School'.I did the same for 'DOWLS Masters',too.

-From the episode, which is currently published, teacher please tell me your favorite episodes and a favorite character.

-Tsutomu sensei:Because this is my own writing,i think as a whole it is interesting.All the episodes are my favorites but volume 4 includes a lot of my favourite scenes.The scene where Miyuki sheds tears after game scenery ,the games for the Monolith Code,the scene that Tatsuya shoots by magic from a high-rise building.And the dance scene of Tatsuya and Miyuki is a favorite in particular.

Then the scene of Tatsuya's awakening in volume 7,also the scene from volume 8 where Tatsuya uses 'Regrowth' on Miyuki.There for the first time Tatsuya and Miyuki interact in a true sence of the term. It was an impressive scene for me.Tatsuya and Miyuki cooperate once again at the end of Vol.11 with a combined attack.I think of that scene as the main attraction.

My favorite characters are the senior combination of Saegusa Mayumi and Watanabe Mari,also Fujibayashi Kyoko of the 101 iIndepended Magic Equiped Battalion.Girls that you do not get bored to watch.As for Fujibayashi Kyoko,she is very clever,she is someone who could know a lot.Even if not measured in a sense of emotional distance,but it is someone like an adult woman who could take over there.

-If you had the chance to write an episode about one sub-character,which one would you choose to bring on the spotlight?

-Tsutomu sensei:If I had the chance to write freely....there is a problem in the productivity of my own ,though,i would include without disregard the second cousins of Tatsuya,the Kuroba siblings(Kuroba Ayako and Kuroba Fumiya) of the Fourth High School.It seem that I want to write'The twins of the Magic High school'.Because I think their active roles will be totally different from those of Tatsuya and the rest,this is the place that it comes in complete contrast.

If we are going to talk a little bit realistic,we made a side story about focusing on the past of Leo (Saijou Leonhart) and Erika(Chiba Erika),at the same episode where Yoshida Mikihiko appears.

-The anime is facing a climax today,what were your thoughts when you heard that your work was going to be animated?

-Tsutomu sensei:I was very glad,at the same time I remember the surprising feeling of 'I really did it!' Aside from the latter half of the 9 schools competition arc and the Yokohama Disturbance arc,i thought that the Enrollment arc was hardly suitable for anime adaptation.Even so,skipping all of a suden the Enrollment arc and starting the anime from the 9 schools competition arc, a non-reader of the novels will not understand well what happens.At that point i thought that it would not work out,but the anime adaptation was already decided and i was trully glad to think of anything else.

-And how was it watching the anime adaptation?

Tsutomu sensei:I think i may be watching it under a favourable light,but after watching the anime 2,3 times i think that it is an enjoyable work to watch.I think that an anime series is not created in order to explain in detail the small things.I wanted especially the anime to pursue a unique representation and i asked for it.A novel is a novel,the good point of an anime,is that it's an anime.I think that is enough.

-What are the differences between the anime and the novel?

Tsutomu sensei:The anime is in motion.That's the biggest difference,the anime has sound,the characters are moving,there are lines,it reaches the person who watches it directly.I think these are the points where the anime is superior.At the same time i realised once again the difference between making a video and writing a composition.That part can be cleared up if the novel is 'invisible',which is something in which the anime cannot go along.There are several places of such parts and it made me think a lot,i believe that this experience has helped me a lot in the new series.

However,since we have 'motion' in the anime,i will stop because it does not require much explaining to do.At that point,because I can write novels very well,there may be the superiority of novels.

-After the anime started airing,are there any parts that are affected in terms of writing?

Tsutomu sensei:The voices of the characters who speak in my head,became the voices of the voice-actors now (laughs).When you write a novel,because I am the type who writes while imagining the picture in my head,the impact/influence is greater.

-'The Irregular at Magic High School','DOWL Masters',when we are talking about the works of Tsutomu sensei,a solid setting is a key point.Is the setting as a whole thought before starting to write or will you add it while you write the novel?

Tsutomu sensei:It is ideal to think of everything before the process of writing,but that does not go well in practice.Even if i strengthen a setting as much as possible beforehand,the one that i revise while writing makes me feel that the quality is much better,when i finish it.At that time,i perform additions and corrections of the setting as far as they do not contradict with those previously announced.However,you have to decide from the beginning of writing the things that 'You Cannot Do' so that it prevents you from changing some core facts.

-For example what kind of thing cannot be in the world of'The Irregular at Magic High School'?

Tsutomu-sensei:Firstly,the fact that teleportation magic does not exist.Also the fact that there is not the act of transformation.The magic is permanent.At the same time there is a limit to the usage of magic by the heroes and you may have but you cannot use strong magic.

-The 14th volume of 'The Irregular at Magic High School' including the Ancient City Ressurection Arc released the 10th of September.Let's talk about this a little.

Tsutomu-sensei:After the Parasite Doll incident a foreign agent named Zhou flees from Yokohama to Kyoto where he hid in a faction.After two months around the time for the 'Thesis Competition' Tatsuya receives a message from Yotsuba Maya delivered by the Kuroba siblings for the disposal of a certain someone.The message says'I want your help for capturing Zhou'.While Tatsuya cannot understand why Maya is 'asking' instead of 'commanding' Tatsuya accepts the job and takes Miyuki with him.While Tatsuya and Miyuki go for the 'Kushima' family which is the center of the opposition against the 'Traditionalists' they have a fateful meeting with an artificial genius magician.....that is the development.

As an entertainment writer,I want to write fun novels.

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/manga/2/131187.jpg

When you're not writing novels ,what do you do?

Tsutomu-sensei:Before i start writing a novel ,i have a lot of stress that's why i go to batting centres or i go and practice golf swing and i blast the ball earnestly.Otherwise,i spend my time doing research on the library on a topic of my interest.But nowadays,i work at daytime and at night time i write,so i have zero free time and i do my muscle training inside the room.

-Please tell us about a good book that you read,an author that you admire.

Tsutomu-sensei:I like fantasy and translated works of Science Fiction.Of course i read light novels too.Until i became a writer i read a lot of japan made Science Fiction stories and other fantasy stories.I also read a lot of modern action stories.I like the works of Hideyuki Kikuchi sensei
and also Yumemakura Baku sensei and Yoshiki Tanaka sensei,the works of Satoshi Konno in particular.
When it comes to foreign releases as a writer I was affected by space opera series like the 'Perry Rhodan' series and Michael Moorcock's 'Elric of Melnibone' saga series.

I think there is a portion of the roots of fantasy impact of the translated space operas in my works and the influence of romantic novel is stacked on top of that.In addition,the great idea of magic in the'Irregular at Magic High School' is like the 'magnificent miracle' used in the 'Akasic Records'in the 'Alien Series' of Hideyuki Kikuchi.

-When did you began to write a novel for the first time?

Tsutomu-sensei:The first novel i wrote was 'The Irregular at Magic High school' ,i was a simple reader until then.

-What was the chance that made you write'The Irregular at Magic High school?

Tsutomu-sensei:The opportunity came while I was reading works in the contribution site of the novel.I thought 'Well,wouldn't be good to see a novel on my own here?'and so i started writing.

-What is the main appeal of the Web novels?

Tsutomu-sensei:It is simple,because the money for buying books dissapeared steadily (laughs), i thought that i should find something else to read,so i started reading Web light novels.The difference between a web novel and a book light novel lies in the degree of completion.A novel becoming a book is higher in the degree of completion and as a reading material is really firm.But ,there is something interesting about Web light novels.'Sword Art Online' is also a novel that was originally written as a web-based novel.The fact that there is a variety of works,that is the main appeal of the Web novels.

-Tsutomu-sensei is the type to write everyday? Or is the type to write massively to some extend?

Tsutomu-sensei:I write after an idea is solidified.Because i'm working everyday on the idea,until i begin to write,it can be said that i write every day in that sense.In reality writing in a form of a light novel means that you write massively to some extend.

-In the Web and the paper media,are there anything that you have to be careful when you write a novel?

Tsutomu-sensei:Rather than the Web and the print media,ever since i became a commercial writer from an amateur writer,i came to suffer from selection of words.Then,i came to make a more detailed calendar.

-You select words....

Tsutomu-sensei:Yes, when i wrote for the Web,there was that part for which i had the feeling to leave it like this,but when i came to check for the meaning of words one by one,i had to keep in mind the correct japanese meaning of the words.

-What kind of thing is this calendar?

Tsutomu-sensei:In what order will the story be connected?What kind of things are happening at other places at the same timing?It is like a calendar that follows the events of the characters in the novel.After i summarize the events in the calendar,i actually begin to write.

-The publication of 'DOWL Masters' has just started a few days ago, from now on have you decided what kind of schedule will you follow for the publication of 'The Irregular at magic High School' and 'DOWL Masters'?

Tsutomu-sensei:It hasn't been decided clearly yet,but i think both series are going to be published in turns alternatively.When the 'Irregular at Magic High School' short stories become available ,'The Irregular at Magic High School' will continue.Judging from the present possibilities,i think that both the series will end about the same time,maybe,'DOWL Masters' will be completed a little earlier.

-What kind of work do you want to challenge,if you were told that you may write a new work in your favourite genre?

Tsutomu-sensei:I want to challenge a previously rejected plan,this time again and i want to shape the ideas that are warmed from the old days of 'The Moon Princess:A Modern Version'.But,since i think that this story is going to take longer than 'The Irregular at Magic High School' i do not know whether it can be materialised (laughs).

-Currently,a presentation has been held for 'The 'Declared revolution! Dengeki Bunko fighting Fair'.Do you have something that you want to evolve,like something that you want to fight for?

Tsutomu-sensei:A little while ago,i told you that i came to take time to choose the words ,but i think that i want to become able to write smoothly and faster than i talk.Because it is a waste of time when the flow of thoughts stops in order to choose the presentation.If that part can evolve,i think that my productivity may rise more.

-Finally,would you like to send a message towards our readers?

Tsutomu-sensei: As an entertainment writer,from now on and in the future i intend to aim writing fun novels.However, this 'fun' is irregural and may sometimes become a great wild pitch.Still,because i want to deliver fun in many ways,from now on too i'm looking forward to meet with you,with best regards.



It's pretty interesting. This makes me more curious about his other series though since that one seems to be very character development focused.

[Echizen777]

Thanks.

DOWL Masters could end before Mahouka then. Is it me or he confirmed that there will be Yuuri in it as well?

[yellowsnake]

http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=388f571e0cb30f24359aec0bf895d192/3ee255ed2e738bd4f01a4e4ea28b87d6277ff969.jpg
Best girl.

[Echizen777]

http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=388f571e0cb30f24359aec0bf895d192/3ee255ed2e738bd4f01a4e4ea28b87d6277ff969.jpg
Best girl.

Too bad Lina will never participate in the NSC...Or maybe if she joins a school this year...

[yellowsnake]

http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/4ce189b8d442b9f312281d35cec84b701414089359_full.jp g
What's Eimi doing?

[Echizen777]

What's Eimi doing?

Playing detective, in Yuutousei she was doing this with Honoka and Shizuku when they were stalking Tatsuya.

[TrueAlchemist]

I also posted in vol. 14 thread, but I will post it here as well.

The vol. 15 (魔法科高校の劣等生(15) 古都内乱編<下>) will be released on January 10th, 2015.
http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/i/new.html

I have not seen any SAO x Mahouka pictures in this thread, so let me post two pictures.
http://thumbnail.egloos.net/700x0/http://pds21.egloos.com/pds/201410/25/49/b0012149_544aa4a4d1e54.jpg
http://thumbnail.egloos.net/700x0/http://pds21.egloos.com/pds/201410/25/49/b0012149_544aa4a75a0cf.jpg

There was an event called, Mahouka FES. 2014.
This picture was used as a center piece of this event. No one has posted this in the thread, yet, so I am uploading it for other fans who have not seen it.
https://38.media.tumblr.com/7f7df6136a314fa5c7f89fdbdb91fee7/tumblr_nds3lqusVS1r0l9xto1_500.jpg

[bakato]

I also posted in vol. 14 thread, but I will post it here as well.

The vol. 15 (魔法科高校の劣等生(15) 古都内乱編<下>) will be released on January 10th, 2015.
http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/i/new.html

I have not seen any SAO x Mahouka pictures in this thread, so let me post two pictures.
http://thumbnail.egloos.net/700x0/http://pds21.egloos.com/pds/201410/25/49/b0012149_544aa4a4d1e54.jpg
http://thumbnail.egloos.net/700x0/http://pds21.egloos.com/pds/201410/25/49/b0012149_544aa4a75a0cf.jpg

There was an event called, Mahouka FES. 2014.
This picture was used as a center piece of this event. No one has posted this in the thread, yet, so I am uploading it for other fans who have not seen it.
https://38.media.tumblr.com/7f7df6136a314fa5c7f89fdbdb91fee7/tumblr_nds3lqusVS1r0l9xto1_500.jpg

Damn. Tatsuya looks good. As for Miyuki, meh.

[TrueAlchemist]

Damn. Tatsuya looks good. As for Miyuki, meh.

Tatsuya's illustration is just too GOOD!!!
From my opinion, he is like better looking version of Hei from "Darker than Black"

[yellowsnake]

202,592　魔法科高校の劣等生　14　古都内乱编　上

Finally reached 200k.

[Chris38]

Well, it seems like in the latest 2014 edition of Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! (This Light Novel is Amazing!), Mahouka has gotten some quite high points.



Since it's on the 13th place in the top 60 light novels list.

Miyuki is on 11th place of the top 30 female list (and before you ask Mayumi isn't anywhere in the top female list and no other female character from Mahouka has managed to get on that list)

Finally ... Tatsuya is on the 5th place in the top 30 male list. (And similarly to Miyuki's situation ... no other male character from Mahouka has managed to get on that list)

[pampz21]

Index X Mahouka colab
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3bcQH2CQAAn08u.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3gdVicCYAAbzLo.jpg

Just change my phone's primary photo =3

[expertsource]

ah. they had been putted index with mahouka. index is awful. i had watched it just because of accelerator. the other parts of accelerator is just totally awful. especially 3 girls talks. in one episode they talked certainly 15 minutes. it is a nightmare. no index with mahouka!

[Flere821]

ah. they had been putted index with mahouka. index is awful. i had watched it just because of accelerator. the other parts of accelerator is just totally awful. especially 3 girls talks. in one episode they talked certainly 15 minutes. it is a nightmare. no index with mahouka!
Lolwut, did you mistook Railgun with Index? Because IIRC there's no girls talk in Index. Either way, the anime adaptions of those sucked, just like the anime for Mahouka sucked, you're better off reading the source material for those (the LNs for Index, manga for Railgun).

[allfictions]

ah. they had been putted index with mahouka. index is awful. i had watched it just because of accelerator. the other parts of accelerator is just totally awful. especially 3 girls talks. in one episode they talked certainly 15 minutes. it is a nightmare. no index with mahouka!
Well aren't you full of rainbows and sunshine, "expert".
Lolwut, did you mistook Railgun with Index? Because IIRC there's no girls talk in Index. Either way, the anime adaptions of those sucked, just like the anime for Mahouka sucked, you're better off reading the source material for those (the LNs for Index, manga for Railgun).
This guy knows what's up.

[kusabireika]

Ok... what happen here >_>
http://eemoticons.net/Upload/Kanade Avatar/Kanade 047.jpg

I wonder when will be the new volume release ... can't wait :T_T:
http://eemoticons.net/Upload/Kanade Avatar/Kanade 045.jpg

[Liebe]

Volume 15 comes out on January 10. Not that bad I think.

[millie10468]

Just came to say, Mahouka's the best-selling LN of the year with 1,599,614　copies sold :)

[IceHism]

Just came to say, Mahouka's the best-selling LN of the year with 1,599,614　copies sold :)

What the.... And i thought this stood no chance against SAO or even kagerou daze.

[millie10468]

What the.... And i thought this stood no chance against SAO or even kagerou daze.

*1.　1,599,614　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
*2.　1,403,681　Sword Art Online
*3.　1,106,631　Kagerou Days
*4.　*,826,719　Monogatari Series

It's a slim lead over SAO. Although, SAO ranked twice, with Progressive being billed as a different series.

[Verisimilitude]

Some stats to consider:

2013 sales to 2014 sales: 947,772 to 1,599,614 (40.7% increase)
No of Volumes sold: 4 (2013) vs 2 (2014)

Also, since Vol 13 sold 226,371 and 14 sold 206,593, that means 1,166,650 of vol1-12 were sold this year. Say what you want about the anime, but I think it definitely helped to boost sales.

[IceHism]

Some stats to consider:

2013 sales to 2014 sales: 947,772 to 1,599,614 (40.7% increase)
No of Volumes sold: 4 (2013) vs 3 (2014)

Also, since Vol 13 sold 226,371 and 14 sold 206,593, that means 1,166,650 of vol1-12 were sold this year. Say what you want about the anime, but I think it definitely helped to boost sales.

How much did vol 9-12 sell in 2013 together?

[Verisimilitude]

How much did vol 9-12 sell in 2013 together?

550,372 (or 58% of the total). This year 13-14 sold only 27% of the total. So looks like there was definitely a huge anime boost.

[Maxaumus]

Who do you think the siblings will be paired with and hopefully not each other since that wouldn't be a real choice for tats, do you think his friends will find out he's silver and a Yotsuba

[yellowsnake]

http://www.myself-bbs.com/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=NjE3MzJ8MjhlODIxNDJ8MTQxNzgzMTAxOHwwfDM2OTM5&nothumb=yes

LMAO

[allfictions]

...what am I looking at!?

(don't think can unsee it)

[Wandering Soul]

http://www.myself-bbs.com/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=NjE3MzJ8MjhlODIxNDJ8MTQxNzgzMTAxOHwwfDM2OTM5&nothumb=yes

LMAO

Why am I looking at the love child of Jumonji and Accelerator:heh:

[Echizen777]

...what am I looking at!?

(don't think can unsee it)

Well, their abilities are similar to a degree :heh:.

[Echizen777]

Volume 15 cover and summary here (http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newreleases/978-4-04-869167-3/).

Tatsuya, Masaki and who?

Can someone translate the summary?

[bakato]

Volume 15 cover and summary here (http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newreleases/978-4-04-869167-3/).

Tatsuya, Masaki and who?

Can someone translate the summary?

From what I can make out from google translate, the guy in the back is a new character from a Yotsuba branch house. He, Masaki, and Tatsuya are going to make a united front to protect the Ancient City.

[pampz21]

Volume 15 cover and summary here (http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newreleases/978-4-04-869167-3/).

Tatsuya, Masaki and who?

Can someone translate the summary?

After reading it; I get the feeling that this is the arc that Mayumi would fall.

[Echizen777]

From what I can make out from google translate, the guy in the back is a new character from a Yotsuba branch house. He, Masaki, and Tatsuya are going to make a united front to protect the Ancient City.

If Tatsuya and Masaki fight together, doesn't it mean that he will know about his hidden magics? Tatsuya can fight well without using them but it's unlikely that he will fight like that during the whole volume, and that Masaki won't notice it.

[~oNe~]

Finally a new character but which school he come from??

From what I can make out from google translate, the guy in the back is a new character from a Yotsuba branch house. He, Masaki, and Tatsuya are going to make a united front to protect the Ancient City.

wait... Yotsuba branch house beside Kuroba???

[bakato]

Finally a new character but which school he come from??



wait... Yotsuba branch house beside Kuroba???

I think. Google can't get the surname right.

[Echizen777]

Finally a new character but which school he come from??



wait... Yotsuba branch house beside Kuroba???

There are several specialized branches in the Yotsuba clan, Kuroba is specialized in information gathering but there are other ones, and other potential heirs. Miyuki is the candidate of the Shiba and Fumiya of the Kuroba.

[bakato]

Ah. Also notice that the author and illustrator have cleverly positioned him to hide his school uniform. He can't be first high and he definitely has to be a first year. So what are the other possibilities?

[amtro]

Oh great, another Yotsubigot who doesn't know about half the stuff Tatsuya is capable of doing. I am mentally groaning from just imagining a teenage Aoki.
And no, this new guy is not some Yotsuba secret weapon. When you feed the text to google translate it translates Shiba to Tsukasa Nami (administer wave or some shit). The red text says that Ichijo Masaki and the Yotsuba secret weapon, Shiba Tatsuya make a stand in Kyoto. No mention of new guy.

[tigerdave]

Oh great, another Yotsubigot who doesn't know about half the stuff Tatsuya is capable of doing. I am mentally groaning from just imagining a teenage Aoki.
And no, this new guy is not some Yotsuba secret weapon. When you feed the text to google translate it translates Shiba to Tsukasa Nami (administer wave or some shit). The red text says that Ichijo Masaki and the Yotsuba secret weapon, Shiba Tatsuya make a stand in Kyoto. No mention of new guy.

This spoiler has me excited. I want Masaki to see Tatsuya use his full arsenal (except for Material Burst) and find out how terrifying Tatsuya truly is. Plus it would add to the storyline, as Masaki would try to understand how Tatsuya could be a Course Two student. It would be interesting to see Masaki exhaust the investigative powers of his clan to solve the mystery that is Shiba Tatsuya...

[bakato]

Oh great, another Yotsubigot who doesn't know about half the stuff Tatsuya is capable of doing. I am mentally groaning from just imagining a teenage Aoki.
And no, this new guy is not some Yotsuba secret weapon. When you feed the text to google translate it translates Shiba to Tsukasa Nami (administer wave or some shit). The red text says that Ichijo Masaki and the Yotsuba secret weapon, Shiba Tatsuya make a stand in Kyoto. No mention of new guy.

Obviously that's Tatsuya.

So Tatsuya us boy magic nurses with the good looks of Miyuki and homogeneous, meet in Kushima Mitsuyoshi.

This is the new guy. If google translate got it right.

So to amend my previous statement, the new guy is, judging by what's shown of his uniform, a first high student who's joined the conflict. Tatsuya "ultimate weapon of the Yotsuba", "Cardinal" George, and Ichijou "Crimson Prince" have banded together to end the civil war.

[Echizen777]

Kushima Mitsuyoshi is the name of Kudou Minoru given by GT, it can't be him since he is blond haired.

[yellowsnake]

So Misaki and Tatsuya is going to be working together? Also, Shippou is on the cover too I'm curious to see what Shippou is going to do.

[caminhas]

Kushima Mitsuyoshi is the name of Kudou Minoru given by GT, it can't be him since he is blond haired.

maybe parade?

[IceHism]

Oh, no girls on the cover. That's surprising

I wonder who is the big boss at the end and what is going to be the point and theme of this arc and how it will contribute to the overarching plot. And it doesnt look like zhou is gonna get captured so that will probably be good.

[Echizen777]

maybe parade?

Don't think he would show a character using Parade on a cover like that but who knows. yellowsnake might be right, it could be Shippou, it's 1st High uniform, we saw the uniforms of the other schools in the anime, drawn by Kana herself and they are the only ones with an uniform like that maybe his family got informations and he will act as the heir of his clan.

This spoiler has me excited. I want Masaki to see Tatsuya use his full arsenal (except for Material Burst) and find out how terrifying Tatsuya truly is. Plus it would add to the storyline, as Masaki would try to understand how Tatsuya could be a Course Two student. It would be interesting to see Masaki exhaust the investigative powers of his clan to solve the mystery that is Shiba Tatsuya...

It can't be played like that because, Tatsuya is no more a Course 2, it's likely that Masaki never knew that he was one since they all have the flower of their uniforms in the NSC though he could have noticed it in Yokohama and Masaki never underestimated him. It's possible we will learn about his discussion with Zhou in volume 7. If he tries to investigate on him it will be after this arc IMO since they will work together.

[caminhas]

Don't think he would show a character using Parade on a cover like that but who knows. yellowsnake might be right, it could be Shippou, it's 1st High uniform, we saw the uniforms of the other schools in the anime, drawn by Kana herself and they are the only ones with an uniform like that maybe his family got informations and he will act as the heir of his clan.

maybe, but the color of the eyes of the character are sky blue, very different from the brown of shippou's eyes. but oh well it could be a redesign.

[tigerdave]

Don't think he would show a character using Parade on a cover like that but who knows. yellowsnake might be right, it could be Shippou, it's 1st High uniform, we saw the uniforms of the other schools in the anime, drawn by Kana herself and they are the only ones with an uniform like that maybe his family got informations and he will act as the heir of his clan.



It can't be played like that because, Tatsuya is no more a Course 2, it's likely that Masaki never knew that he was one since they all have the flower of their uniforms in the NSC though he could have noticed it in Yokohama and Masaki never underestimated him. It's possible we will learn about his discussion with Zhou in volume 7. If he tries to investigate on him it will be after this arc IMO since they will work together.

Good point about the uniform. Still, it seems like Masaki and George recognize Tatsuya for his tactics and gram demolition, but consider him to be a weak magician overall. I think George pretty much said that, actually. Which would be understandable given that Tatsuya served as an engineer and seemed like a one-trick pony during the Monolith Code matches. By one trick I mean that the only noteworthy magic Tatsuya used was gram demolition, at least by their standards.

[Echizen777]

maybe, but the color of the eyes of the character are sky blue, very different from the brown of shippou's eyes. but oh well it could be a redesign.

True... Maybe it's that Shigaraki or something?

Good point about the uniform. Still, it seems like Masaki and George recognize Tatsuya for his tactics and gram demolition, but consider him to be a weak magician overall. I think George pretty much said that, actually. Which would be understandable given that Tatsuya served as an engineer and seemed like a one-trick pony during the Monolith Code matches. By one trick I mean that the only noteworthy magic Tatsuya used was gram demolition, at least by their standards.

I remember they theorized that he was weak because he was not used to use low spec CADs but they know he is an excellent martial artist and George saw him catch bullets with bare hands, if they think he is weak then they are very stupid.

[Maxaumus]

You know I've been wondering but what age are you considered legal in Mahouka? Since we have people serving in the military as young as 13 yet at the same time Tats has to use a false identity for legal reasons while working for flt

[bakato]

You know I've been wondering but what age are you considered legal in Mahouka? Since we have people serving in the military as young as 13 yet at the same time Tats has to use a false identity for legal reasons while working for flt

If you're referring to Masaki, he never served in the military. He was a volunteer during a border crisis.

[Maxaumus]

I was talking about Tatsuya,Misaki,and Angelina all of them are under 18 and have served in the military, and Erica has stated that she has done missions with her family as well. If your right he still was in fighting in a military operation when he was 13. which is still weird considering Tatsuya has to use the Tarus Silver idenetiy for legal reasons

[amtro]

Tatsuya's involvement in the military is strictly confidential. He has been affiliated with the 101 because he's seen as a WMD.

[Maxaumus]

The 101 invited him to a training session for who knows what, and allowed a 13 yr old to enter combat before they knew he was strategic class. Also not so confidential Kazama revealed him to his classmates and told Kudo he was strategic class. Do you really think they haven't spread that info. Though none of this answers why he can't legal publish or claim credit for his work but is allowed in the military

[Liebe]

Not because he is underage but because of his connection with the Yotsuba.

[amtro]

The connection with the Yotsuba is not the biggest problem. Age is indeed the greatest hurdle he faces as a magic engineer because as an underage there are rules and regulations for working hours, how much he can earn and the taxes he pays, all which he blatantly disregards.
This a guy who bribes, kills, drives, drinks and drives after drinking while being underage. The kid doesn't even have a magic artificer license, yet he works as one of the elites in the field. He clearly doesn't have enough capacity to give a shit about the rules, hell he probably thinks he's above them.
So as long as he's not caught, he's golden. Now I'm not saying that he's working black, I am saying that the persona of Silver exists for a reason. Remember that the Yotsuba run several phony businesses they use to launder money. They aren't going to give him any trouble for the stuff he does, if anything they might compliment him for acting like a true Yotsuba.

[Echizen777]

The 101 invited him to a training session for who knows what, and allowed a 13 yr old to enter combat before they knew he was strategic class. Also not so confidential Kazama revealed him to his classmates and told Kudo he was strategic class. Do you really think they haven't spread that info. Though none of this answers why he can't legal publish or claim credit for his work but is allowed in the military

They didn't say he was Strategic Class but that he was a soldier. Nobody among his relations at school know that he is a Strategic Class magician though it seems Erika will realize it soon. The legal age to become a soldier and an engineer is probably different, considering the usefulness of magic for combat it's likely that there are special rules allowing them to join the military at a young age.

[Maxaumus]

They have enough info now to put the pieces together since they heard his military alias and saw his decomposition and regrowth

[bakato]

I was talking about Tatsuya,Misaki,and Angelina all of them are under 18 and have served in the military, and Erica has stated that she has done missions with her family as well. If your right he still was in fighting in a military operation when he was 13. which is still weird considering Tatsuya has to use the Tarus Silver idenetiy for legal reasons

Tatsuya and Angelina are strategic-class magicians. Their value as military assets to their respective countries are incalculable and supersedes any legal obstacles concerning their age. If you mean Masaki, as I said it was simply a time of crisis that he volunteered. Technically, while he fought on the battlefield, he never served in the military. The circumstances were the same as the Yokohama invasion. You're gonna have to quote that part about Erica.

The Taurus Silver identity isn't for legal reasons. It simply an alias to prevent him from getting too much attention.

[tigerdave]

This a guy who bribes, kills, drives, drinks and drives after drinking while being underage. The kid doesn't even have a magic artificer license, yet he works as one of the elites in the field. He clearly doesn't have enough capacity to give a shit about the rules, hell he probably thinks he's above them.


Where are you getting the drinking and driving from? Or are you just making it up to prove a point? Has Tatsuya even had any alcohol in any of the light novels?

[bakato]

Where are you getting the drinking and driving from? Or are you just making it up to prove a point? Has Tatsuya even had any alcohol in any of the light novels?

I don't remember him driving anything other than his motor bike or something. As for drinking, he did have a toast with 101 during the Nine School Competition.

[amtro]

Tatsuya had a drink in vol 10 after he dropped off Miyuki at her etiquette classes. He also has a car.

[Guest2]

The 101 invited him to a training session for who knows what, and allowed a 13 yr old to enter combat before they knew he was strategic class. Also not so confidential Kazama revealed him to his classmates and told Kudo he was strategic class. Do you really think they haven't spread that info. Though none of this answers why he can't legal publish or claim credit for his work but is allowed in the militaryI feel the answer has been covered several times throughout the novel since its been explained Tatsuya is supposed to keep a low profile as guardian as well as preventing powerful institutions from investigating his background and making the connection he and Miyuki are Yotsuba. Which Maya's butler reminds Tatsuya about in v11. This also links with the military requirement mentioned by Kazama to Kudo in v4 that they can use him if his connection to the Yotsuba is kept hidden. Its all done to protect Miyuki's identity and way of life according to Hayama and Tatsuya.



The connection with the Yotsuba is not the biggest problem. Age is indeed the greatest hurdle he faces as a magic engineer because as an underage there are rules and regulations for working hours, how much he can earn and the taxes he pays, all which he blatantly disregards. The kid doesn't even have a magic artificer license, yet he works as one of the elites in the field.
Ummm, seeing that Tatsuya only needs a license to gain respect and be recognised when looking for a job as an artificer, already works for FLT only part time as a hobby, has his income managed though a pseudonym that is assumed to be an adult so probably does pay taxes, would only be affected by underage rules on how little he can be paid not how much he can earn, all means his connection with the Yotsuba is really the main secrecy concern as far as I see it.



This a guy who bribes, kills, drives, drinks and drives after drinking while being underage. He clearly doesn't have enough capacity to give a shit about the rules, hell he probably thinks he's above them.
So as long as he's not caught, he's golden. Now I'm not saying that he's working black, I am saying that the persona of Silver exists for a reason. Remember that the Yotsuba run several phony businesses they use to launder money. They aren't going to give him any trouble for the stuff he does, if anything they might compliment him for acting like a true Yotsuba.Lol, while I agree he never gives a damn about the rules or law(we saw this fact shock Maki in v12) due to his personal power and powerful backers(who always have to clean up after he rampages), this is shown not to be limited to him alone and all the more powerful 10 master clans like Saegusa, Yotsuba and Juumonji clans have been shown throughout the novels to disregard the law when it suits them. In v7 they talk about being given such privilege due to the fact they must do there part for defense of their country despite.


And I believe all the larger vehicles he owns and uses(all actually stated to be owned by his father as he is under age), are I believe stated to be self-driving and controlled by computers. Tatsuya shouldn't have broken any driving laws at least....yet.

[Maxaumus]

No the question wasn't really answered just the reason for his circumstances, since the question is what is the legal age in mahouka.

[yellowsnake]

http://myself-bbs.com/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=NjE5Mjd8OTJiYmZhNmJ8MTQxODI1MTY4MHwwfDM3MDIz&nothumb=yes

Looks like she's going to have her own route.

[Maxaumus]

who is the she your talking about?

[bakato]

Tatsuya had a drink in vol 10 after he dropped off Miyuki at her etiquette classes. He also has a car.

Yeah. A "drink." It was never said to be alcoholic and I doubt he'd be drinking on the job.

[Echizen777]

Yeah. A "drink." It was never said to be alcoholic and I doubt he'd be drinking on the job.

Not that alcohol can affect him.

The only time I remember him drinking alcohol(only a little) was during his birthday when Miyuki bought champagne for him.

[bakato]

Not that alcohol can affect him.

The only time I remember him drinking alcohol(only a little) was during his birthday when Miyuki bought champagne for him.

Well, he was 18 by then and I found out the legal age in Japan is 20.

[amtro]

He's 17, to my knowledge.

[dai ca superman]

Found this pic on twitter. Preview pic from Dengeki Magazine Vol 41.
may be he's Miki's brother
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4dUxywCYAAO3np.jpg

[Echizen777]

^I guess it means he will be in volume 15?

They are in 2096, Tatsuya has his car to drive Miyuki and it's now possible for cars to drive people automatically, the legal to have a driving license can be 16 or maybe lower, there is no way he would drive illegagly his sister, especially when it's for her ojou formation, same to drink alcohol. They can even have sex and avoid pregnancy with ease.

[pampz21]

Found this pic on twitter. Preview pic from Dengeki Magazine Vol 41.
may be he's Miki's brother
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4dUxywCYAAO3np.jpg

Oh wow Miki's brother looks like Miki.:heh:

[expertsource]

yet in the picture, miki's big brother's eye is not blue. that's not him

[Echizen777]

yet in the picture, miki's big brother's eye is not blue. that's not him

Having the same eye color is not obligatory. For example Mayumi's eyes are red, her sisters have blue eyes.

[Guest2]

No the question wasn't really answered just the reason for his circumstances, since the question is what is the legal age in mahouka.Well, specifically in regards to the comments about....

Since we have people serving in the military as young as 13 yet at the same time Tats has to use a false identity for legal reasons while working for flt....Knowing the actual legal age would have no meaning since its been stated in the v11 Tatsuya is still a minor. His father officially owns all his stuff except for the Silver Taurus patents that are co-owned by Tats and Ushiyama.

V12 states he is officially civilian except when he's called upon as a special Lieutenant and not an actual regular soldier in the JSDF. And in v7 Kazama mentions there are regulations that allow him to temporarily draft the civilian magician Tats for National Security. Which I assume would allow them to draft and monitor any walking magical nukes no matter what their age.

[TrueAlchemist]

Thanks you for the picture. We all know, Miki is the second son.
I wonder what kind of role Miki's brother will play. It would be good for Tatsuya to get another ally, but if his brother shows up to ruin Miki and Tatsuya's plan to lure out Zhou, it may be another plot twist.

[Lucarion]

Thanks you for the picture. We all know, Miki is the second son.
I wonder what kind of role Miki's brother will play. It would be good for Tatsuya to get another ally, but if his brother shows up to ruin Miki and Tatsuya's plan to lure out Zhou, it may be another plot twist.

I just want to see more Koichi involvement. Things always get more interesting when that guy enters the picture.

[Echizen777]

Thanks you for the picture. We all know, Miki is the second son.
I wonder what kind of role Miki's brother will play. It would be good for Tatsuya to get another ally, but if his brother shows up to ruin Miki and Tatsuya's plan to lure out Zhou, it may be another plot twist.

Miki was supposed to bait them so that his family will support him right? I think it's safe to say that he is an ally. If I remember right Mikihiko was said to be more talented than his brother at SB magic, maybe they don't get along well but there are too many characters like that so I hope it's not the case.

[TrueAlchemist]

I just want to see more Koichi involvement. Things always get more interesting when that guy enters the picture.

Mayumi may tag along with Tatsuya, Miyuki, Minami, and Mikihiko to Kyoto.
This volume may be only used for Mayumi to accept her feeling towards Tatsuya unless Zhou targets her to revenge Saegusa for betraying Zhou and sending an assassin (Nakura).

And, Koichi's involvement may happen again because Koichi is afraid of Zhou getting caught by Yotsuba, and he is making an assumption that Yotsuba and Kudo are working together to catch Zhou. In truth, it is a deal between Kudo Retsu and Shiba Tatsuya, and formally, it has nothing to do with Yotsuba and Kudo, but Koichi does not know about this, so he may feel threatened especially when he just lost Nakura.

maybe they don't get along well but there are too many characters like that so I hope it's not the case.

Yes, I was having similar assumption, so I am thinking about the possible plot twist where his brother ruins everything at the last moment.

Or, Miki's brother may want to help Tatsuya just like Miki because Tatsuya was the one who helped Miki to regain his confidence. And, without Tatsuya and the creation of magic engineering class, Miki would still be in "Weed" class, so Miki's brother may decide to help Tatsuya.

[Liebe]

Uh, aren't those both spoilers and "off-topic"?

[bakato]

Oh wow Miki's brother looks like Miki.:heh:

Apparently this pic is from a short story. Judging by the illustrations, it sheds light on the incident that made him depressed in the beginning of the story and a teaser about his romance with Mizuki in the latest Nine Schools Competition.

[Echizen777]

Apparently this pic is from a short story. Judging by the illustrations, it sheds light on the incident that made him depressed in the beginning of the story and a teaser about his romance with Mizuki in the latest Nine Schools Competition.

It is included in volume 14 or in a separate book? And there are other illustrations than the one where he is with his brother?

It reminds me of what he said in his interview, it means there is one for Erika and Leo too.

[bakato]

It is included in volume 14 or in a separate book? And there are other illustrations than the one where he is with his brother?

It reminds me of what he said in his interview, it means there is one for Erika and Leo too.

It was from the magazine.

[TrueAlchemist]

It is included in volume 14 or in a separate book? And there are other illustrations than the one where he is with his brother?

It reminds me of what he said in his interview, it means there is one for Erika and Leo too.

At least, it is not from volume 14.
I think, Dengeki Magazine Vol 41 was published after the release of vol. 14.

[amtro]

Mahouka Out of Order is out, Drama CDs still nowhere in sight. The wait continues...

[pampz21]

I wish we get the vol. 5 b*tch ova.

[AceTrigger]

Vol.6 sells 7560 BD/2064 DVD, total 9,624. This volume will cross 10k in the 2nd week, so I’m thinking the anime will keep its 10k average at this rate.

[bietchie11]

I wish we get the vol. 5 b*tch ova.

Who is the b*tch?

[caminhas]

we need the beach episode, and mayumi bathing ASAP

[pampz21]

Who is the b*tch?

Lol...her name starts in "M" and likes to tease people in lewd manner but usually backfires on her.:heh:

Anyway its weird that we dont have an OVA announcement as most of anime have it.:twitch:

[IceHism]

Lol...her name starts in "M" and likes to tease people in lewd manner but usually backfires on her.:heh:

Anyway its weird that we dont have an OVA announcement as most of anime have it.:twitch:

I don't think we're gonna get a season 2 by madhouse either since MH isn't known for season 2s.

I'm hoping the task goes to a different studio with a different director tho

[Neo-Illusions]

I don't think we're gonna get a season 2 by madhouse either since MH isn't known for season 2s.

I'm hoping the task goes to a different studio with a different director tho

That's disappointing to hear. I though Mahouka S1 was fairly well adapted.
Are you hoping a different studio picks it up because madhouse isn't known for second seasons or did you actually not like the first season?

[Verisimilitude]

There's a lot more factors involved in getting a second season. Read this for a general guide for anime sales:
http://www.someanithing.com/sales-faqguide

[Lucarion]

I don't think we're gonna get a season 2 by madhouse either since MH isn't known for season 2s.

I'm hoping the task goes to a different studio with a different director tho

I'm actually hoping against it. I kind of just want to forget that the anime ever happened. I'm glad some people had fun with it, but, for my case, the anime just brings up too many twisted memories.

[Darkbacon]

The anime wasn't bad IMO but they did leave out a few things. At least instead of doing the normal 2-3 episodes a volume though they did like 4-5 giving slightly more details overall. It would be nice to see a 2nd season mostly cause I want to see 2 Strategic Class fight :3

[pampz21]

I'd love a season 2 as it means that the series is popular.but I'd like a different studio to make it or if Madhouse adapts it again;I'd like a different director for it as different people have different priorities.

Edit: One more week till release.

[Darkbacon]

I still haven't read Volume 14 yet is there a translation anywhere?

[Echizen777]

I still haven't read Volume 14 yet is there a translation anywhere?

A bit of chapter 1 is translated on BT and there are summaries on the forum.

[Iramohs]

Apparently chapters 4 and 5 are done but they're not being released until chapters 1-3 are fully translated. Half of chapter 1 has been translated on baka tsuki though.

[IceHism]

Manabu Ono announced that he had some plans in spring 2015. Some people think it's either a new season of saki or another season of Mahouka.

[slavsya]

Manabu Ono announced that he had some plans in spring 2015. Some people think it's either a new season of saki or another season of Mahouka.
We shall oversee about that, but Im not expecting a new season yet.. :)

[AceTrigger]

Look who is in Ep.1 of Drrr!! S2 :heh:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6_taefCYAESPCy.jpg:large

[IceHism]

Look who is in Ep.1 of Drrr!! S2 :heh:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6_taefCYAESPCy.jpg:large

That dengeki bunko marketing LOL

[Darkbacon]

I'm so ready for vol 14 and 15 to be translated so I can read them!!! So much hype and in the next arc things are going to get crazy

[pampz21]

Someone uploaded the Drama CD of the game.

8cMCwj0j1VU

Poor Miyuki cant get involve on the experiment. :heh:

Well it was fun and shows the girls personality real well.

I felt that Mayumi; Honoka and Mari all had their fun especially Tatsuya; being in lead.
Only downside was that of Erika's; it felt romantic and sad at the end.:T_T:

Well either way Miyuki still won anyways cuz she get to go in 4 dates. :cool:

We even get a special surprise date; Our very own... Leo thanks for the troll Satou :heh:

EDIT: I'd say the funniest is Honokas. BG are so good.

[caminhas]

Someone uploaded the Drama CD of the game.

8cMCwj0j1VU

Poor Miyuki cant get involve on the experiment. :heh:

Well it was fun and shows the girls personality real well.

I felt that Mayumi; Honoka and Mari all had their fun especially Tatsuya; being in lead.
Only downside was that of Erika's; it felt romantic and sad at the end.:T_T:

Well either way Miyuki still won anyways cuz she get to go in 4 dates. :cool:

We even get a special surprise date; Our very own... Leo thanks for the troll Satou :heh:

EDIT: I'd say the funniest is Honokas. BG are so good.

so anyone can translate it?


oh yeah, talking about drama cd i forgot about listening to the audio drama i downloaded about yokohama

[Echizen777]

Miyuki, why did you ruin Honoka's date? :heh: That's not fair.

so anyone can translate it?


oh yeah, talking about drama cd i forgot about listening to the audio drama i downloaded about yokohama

Yokohama? Is it about something serious?

[caminhas]

Miyuki, why did you ruin Honoka's date? :heh: That's not fair.



Yokohama? Is it about something serious?

yes, it's basically yokohama hen in audio drama, if i remeber correctly it was released together with Reminiscence

[IceHism]

*1.　78,915　154,958　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.15

9 days of sale.

So far, the anime isn't boosting the latest volume sales at least from looking at the two week sales. Depends on week 3 sales i guess.

[Iramohs]

So far, the anime isn't boosting the latest volume sales at least from looking at the two week sales. Depends on week 3 sales i guess.

The anime did boost the sales of the volumes released last year though.

[Clutchdog]

What do you mean it's not a boost? Have you even looked at the pre-anime sales of the novels. Vol 15 will end up somewhere around 200k sales, that's considerably more than pre-anime. Vol 13 charted below 150k, before the anime.

[amtro]

Someone uploaded the Drama CD of the game.

8cMCwj0j1VU

Poor Miyuki cant get involve on the experiment. :heh:

Well it was fun and shows the girls personality real well.

I felt that Mayumi; Honoka and Mari all had their fun especially Tatsuya; being in lead.
Only downside was that of Erika's; it felt romantic and sad at the end.:T_T:

Well either way Miyuki still won anyways cuz she get to go in 4 dates. :cool:

We even get a special surprise date; Our very own... Leo thanks for the troll Satou :heh:

EDIT: I'd say the funniest is Honokas. BG are so good.

Mari confirmed virgin. The thing Miyuki said about only seeing Lina as a rival for onii-sama's affection was bull, she was jealous and pissed as hell when Honoka wanted Tatsuya to wash her back.

[Echizen777]

Mari confirmed virgin. The thing Miyuki said about only seeing Lina as a rival for onii-sama's affection was bull, she was jealous and pissed as hell when Honoka wanted Tatsuya to wash her back.

She meant magic rival, Miyuki is even jealous of robots.

After Tatsuya listening to girls talk in volume 5 I was sure Mari was not a virgin...

[amtro]

It wasn't Mari the one who spoke of extra marital sexual relations, it was Shizune. We assumed Mari was sleeping with Shu from that one offhand comment about them going on a date in vol 4. "whoever interrupted her would rue the day"

[Echizen777]

It wasn't Mari the one who spoke of extra marital sexual relations, it was Shizune. We assumed Mari was sleeping with Shu from that one offhand comment about them going on a date in vol 4. "whoever interrupted her would rue the day"

Personally I didn't understood it like this, she was recovering and in a hospital :uhoh:. I think she just wanted to be alone with her boyfriend who is frequently traveling.

With the volume 5 example I wanted to say that sex has been banalized in their era, so for someone like Mari who has a boyfriend I thought she was not a virgin.

[caminhas]

dammit am i the only one non-russian here?

[pampz21]

dammit am i the only one non-russian here?

am not russian; I just know japanese by ear icant read moones tho. :heh:

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/992/992553/mahousk_001_cs1w1_298x.jpg

[caminhas]

am not russian; I just know japanese by ear icant read moones tho. :heh:

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/992/992553/mahousk_001_cs1w1_298x.jpg

yeah, i managed to get some bits of the video too, mayumi and mari in particular were pretty cute.

man they look stunning in the picture, wish a bigger version were avaiable

[bietchie11]

man, i truly appreciated that our Mahouka has a stable and reliable team of translators and editors.
Seriously, Tate and Mushoku MT issues make me realize how lucky i am as a follower of One True Tatsuya.

[Echizen777]

Well, no. It's implied that Cocytus is an AoE magic with Miyuki simply having the ability pinpoint the effect to a high degree. See here:



And the second time it's used is of course as an AoE attack in the Yokohama arc.

And here within the same quote is also the other point of refute, this time to your claim of Cocytus not being faster.
Innate magics are faster than any magic wielded by cads (excluding Bironac) due to the user being able to sidestep the activation sequence. And since both Masaki and Katsuto use cads for their magics we can infer that Miyuki would be faster.
I assume this is only for "Innate" magics, not family inherited ones. So, for example most of the Yotsuba, as well as any BS magician.

This is also where the problem with Tatsuya vs Miyuki lies. Tatsuya using decomposition as is would most likely be at least comparable with Miyuki's speed but since he would naturally have to use Trident against her to actually harm her, Miyuki would have the edge in speed. So it simply comes down to how lethal Cocytus is for him.

I don't remember a AOE magic being casted on a single target, I assume she said this because her control was not perfect and Cast Jamming was still active. AOE is not a magic you can use and choose targets to avoid, all those in the Area of Effect are affected, if she could choose to avoid cetain targets she would have not let her Zone Interference hinders Tatsuya and Lina. It was not implied to be AOE in Yokohama, as I said Miyuki can target 16 people at once, Erika even said: ". As expected of Miyuki, magic that only targets and strikes at enemies is simply awesome."

This is not AOE but multi targeting.

Remember first at this time that CADs were not as efficient since Tatsuya had just met with Sanada and started perfecting them. Innate magics are not faster than magic used with CADs but magicians with innate magics are faster at casting their magics even without a CAD, a CAD make them even faster. Generally, casting speed is not too different only for NS magic, OSM magic and Ancient Magic and Cocytus is OSM so that's why she can cast it rapidly even without one but a Specialized CAD is always better, Fumiya is the same type of magician as her and uses a Specialized CAD for his MI magic, Tatsuya can use Decomposition without CAD but it's faster with his Specialized CAD. Katsuto's CAD is in the form of a phone like Miyuki and Minami(Volume 2) and yet he used Phalanx in Volume 7 by waving his hands, same as Miyuki, certainly because he is Juumonji so he is good at using his innate Move type magic even without one, if you take the team battle in Volume 10 it was mentioned several times that Tatsuya and Katsuto were acting faster than everyone else. Masaki's specialized magic is Rupture and he always fights with a Specialized CAD so the activation is even faster, but Miyuki lacks a specialized CAD for Cocytus so she must be slower.


Also in regards to Echizen post, Rupture isn't a innate/born specialized ability. Cocytus is and it should be faster than Miyuki's regular magic, meaning it's more likely than not superior in speed to Masaki's rupture.

It is his inborn magic as a Ichijou. They are the only ones who can use Rupture.

[somerand]

I don't remember a AOE magic being casted on a single target, I assume she said this because her control was not perfect and Cast Jamming was still active. AOE is not a magic you can use and choose targets to avoid, all those in the Area of Effect are affected, if she could choose to avoid cetain targets she would have not let her Zone Interference hinders Tatsuya and Lina. It was not implied to be AOE in Yokohama, as I said Miyuki can target 16 people at once, Erika even said: ". As expected of Miyuki, magic that only targets and strikes at enemies is simply awesome."

This is not AOE but multi targeting.

Remember first at this time that CADs were not as efficient since Tatsuya had just met with Sanada and started perfecting them. Innate magics are not faster than magic used with CADs but magicians with innate magics are faster at casting their magics even without a CAD, a CAD make them even faster. Generally, casting speed is not too different only for NS magic, OSM magic and Ancient Magic and Cocytus is OSM so that's why she can cast it rapidly even without one but a Specialized CAD is always better, Fumiya is the same type of magician as her and uses a Specialized CAD for his MI magic, Tatsuya can use Decomposition without CAD but it's faster with his Specialized CAD. Katsuto's CAD is in the form of a phone like Miyuki and Minami(Volume 2) and yet he used Phalanx in Volume 7 by waving his hands, same as Miyuki, certainly because he is Juumonji so he is good at using his innate Move type magic even without one, if you take the team battle in Volume 10 it was mentioned several times that Tatsuya and Katsuto were acting faster than everyone else. Masaki's specialized magic is Rupture and he always fights with a Specialized CAD so the activation is even faster, but Miyuki lacks a specialized CAD for Cocytus so she must be slower.



It is his inborn magic as a Ichijou. They are the only ones who can use Rupture.

Rupture isn't an innate ability like Cocytus/decomposition. It might be the clans specialisation that they have a disposition towards but it isn't a born specialised ability from birth.



"("Rupture" is a magic that possesses A-Rank destructive power...... Maybe.)

The Ichijou Family's far-famed ability "Rupture" was a Dispersal-Systematic Magic that vaporized all fluids within the target's body.

Once the fluids from a biological target were vaporized, the body would tear apart.

For internal combustible machines, once the fuel evaporated, the car would immediately explode. This was also the case for battery liquid. Even if there were no flammable liquids on board, there was still engine oil, lubricants, coolant. There was practically no machine that didn't use some sort of fluid. Thus, as long as "Rupture" was activated, the Ichijous could destroy any machine at will.

This was the perfect magic for both anti-personnel and anti-armor combat. "Rupture" was designed solely for military use, so naturally it infringed upon the rules for Monolith Code."



""The thing is, I heard from Kazama-kun that the enemy Tatsuya-kun was facing may have been using the Kudou's 'Parade'. If that really is the case, we'll have to give them a warning. The one who taught the Kudou 'Matoi', which they developed into Parade, was my predecessor after all."

The whole thing's such a pain, Yakumo sighed.

That indiscreet remark however passed Miyuki by.

"The precursor to the Kudou's secret technique 'Parade', was taught by Sensei's master..."



As seen in the quotes, both rupture and parade are systematic magic designed. They aren't innate born specialised abilities like Cocytus/ Decomposition. They are simply closely guarded secret activation sequences by the families.



""Come now...Tatsuya, 'Parade' is one of the Kudou Family’s closest guarded secrets. Did you think I would know this secret?"

Amid her laughter, Maya deflected the question.

"Oba-ue once learned from Elder Kudou directly. Even if you do not know the Magic Sequence, I’m sure you at least know the ins and outs, correct?"



Just like how flying magic was unusable for people before the 9SC board leaked the activation sequences, Parade/ Rupture could be used by other that have a disposition for that type of systematic magic if they got their hands on the secret activation sequences closely guarded by the families. They aren't some innate ability that can only be used by the one person. (At least that's how I interpreted what we have learn about them so far)

[Echizen777]

I don't really see the difference, it doesn't change that they are better with this magic, just like Tatsuya is with his Decomposition and Miyuki is with her Cocytus, all of these magics exist due to the researches of the Magic Institutes, they are all a part of Modern Magic. They developed a Dispersion type magic after their researches, their subjects was to use magic as a weapon and now the Ichijou are all born with the genes permitting them to use this magic. Knowing the Magic Sequence would be useless if you are not an Ichijou because you would not be able to use it, same for Phalanx and all the others magics. 9th lab wanted to fusion Ancient and Modern magic and that's what they did.

Magic sequences are used for Modern magic, as long as there is a CAD you can load it an the Activation Sequence will start. Tatsuya would be unable to use Masaki's Rupture by pulling the trigger of his Red CAD and vice versa but another Ichijou could. Nobody would like to reveal the secrets of his techniques to anyone. Unlike Yotsuba who are all born with a different ability of 2 types, other members of the 28 families are born with only one magic that the created through researches. Tatsuya can see all the MS anyway and he can't use all this, there is an AS for Decomposition too since it can be loaded in a CAD.

[Clutchdog]

I don't remember a AOE magic being casted on a single target, I assume she said this because her control was not perfect and Cast Jamming was still active. AOE is not a magic you can use and choose targets to avoid, all those in the Area of Effect are affected, if she could choose to avoid cetain targets she would have not let her Zone Interference hinders Tatsuya and Lina. It was not implied to be AOE in Yokohama, as I said Miyuki can target 16 people at once, Erika even said: ". As expected of Miyuki, magic that only targets and strikes at enemies is simply awesome."

This is not AOE but multi targeting.

Remember first at this time that CADs were not as efficient since Tatsuya had just met with Sanada and started perfecting them. Innate magics are not faster than magic used with CADs but magicians with innate magics are faster at casting their magics even without a CAD, a CAD make them even faster. Generally, casting speed is not too different only for NS magic, OSM magic and Ancient Magic and Cocytus is OSM so that's why she can cast it rapidly even without one but a Specialized CAD is always better, Fumiya is the same type of magician as her and uses a Specialized CAD for his MI magic, Tatsuya can use Decomposition without CAD but it's faster with his Specialized CAD. Katsuto's CAD is in the form of a phone like Miyuki and Minami(Volume 2) and yet he used Phalanx in Volume 7 by waving his hands, same as Miyuki, certainly because he is Juumonji so he is good at using his innate Move type magic even without one, if you take the team battle in Volume 10 it was mentioned several times that Tatsuya and Katsuto were acting faster than everyone else. Masaki's specialized magic is Rupture and he always fights with a Specialized CAD so the activation is even faster, but Miyuki lacks a specialized CAD for Cocytus so she must be slower.
Think of it as Miyuki being able to shape the area of effect to her will. If it's a single target magic then there wouldn't be such a passage in the novel. So this really is just a bunch of useless text. Accept it and move on.

Sigh. Echizen, you don't understand what you're saying. It doesn't matter what type of CAD it is, it'll use an activation sequence = slower than innate magic. Tatsuya uses Trident, it's slower than regular decomposition, but it also has three decomposition magics in the single activation sequence.

From now on. If you're going to argue then prove your point with quotes. If you're going against a direct quote from the novels that says Cocytus is an AoE magic. Then you provide your own, or it's just nonsense. Same with saying CAD's are faster than innate magic.
What you're doing now is just a waste of everyone's time.

[TrueAlchemist]

Hey guys. This information is related to Mahouka App game, but it is interesting information, so I am sharing this in the thread.

Mahouka App game and Final Fantasy Agito and Final Fantasy Reishiki.

http://pds27.egloos.com/pds/201501/30/49/b0012149_54ca9c244a117.jpg

[caminhas]

Hey guys. This information is related to Mahouka App game, but it is interesting information, so I am sharing this in the thread.

Mahouka App game and Final Fantasy Agito and Final Fantasy Reishiki.

http://pds27.egloos.com/pds/201501/30/49/b0012149_54ca9c244a117.jpg

seems kinda lame... looks like they just cut the mahouka cast face and put over in the in game sprite of reishiki

[novalysis]

I wonder, why is the author pairing Minami with Minoru Kudou?

[Echizen777]

I wonder, why is the author pairing Minami with Minoru Kudou?

Maybe to show that Minoru is a lady killer? Minoru is supposed to die soon but with Tatsuya telling him what is his problem I believe that he will find a way to fix his problem. I said it in another thread IIRC that he could be chosen as Miyuki's partner and it would create some drama between her and Miyuki.

[Iramohs]

Maybe to show that Minoru is a lady killer? Minoru is supposed to die soon but with Tatsuya telling him what is his problem I believe that he will find a way to fix his problem. I said it in another thread IIRC that he could be chosen as Miyuki's partner and it would create some drama between her and Miyuki.

Minoru's genes are defective though. Minami and Minoru both have unstable lifespans so I doubt the Kudou would want that pairing(assuming Minoru lives past 20).

[Blonddude42]

Minoru's genes are defective though. Minami and Minoru both have unstable lifespans so I doubt the Kudou would want that pairing(assuming Minoru lives past 20).

I wouldn't say defective just yet. Unless you have actually read volumes 14 & 15. Its hard to get the full meaning of something from spoilers. Although in all honesty, they probably are, just not quite in the way we they are.

[bakato]

Hey. I didn't know where to post this, but you guys remember that crossover with SAO?
It's being translated here (http://dreadfuldecoding.blogspot.com/2015/01/dream-game.html).

[MalaIT]

Hey. I didn't know where to post this, but you guys remember that crossover with SAO?
It's being translated here (http://dreadfuldecoding.blogspot.com/2015/01/dream-game.html).
What is this?

[IceHism]

What is this?

There was a collab with sao. It seemed like they just dressed each other in each other's clothes but it seems there's two stories that come with it. One written by each author.


I kinda wish they both wrote the same story instead of having two different parts like the collab with oregairu's author and hentai ouji's author. I wanna see the different writing styles clash, interact, and play off each other.

[caminhas]

Hey. I didn't know where to post this, but you guys remember that crossover with SAO?
It's being translated here (http://dreadfuldecoding.blogspot.com/2015/01/dream-game.html).

crossover with SAO.............................. *ugh* :eyebrow:

[Echizen777]

There was a collab with sao. It seemed like they just dressed each other in each other's clothes but it seems there's two stories that come with it. One written by each author.


I kinda wish they both wrote the same story instead of having two different parts like the collab with oregairu's author and hentai ouji's author. I wanna see the different writing styles clash, interact, and play off each other.

From what I read, it looks like they will fight though since Tatsuya is supposed to be the boss and that the second part is called Versus II. Versus I was a SAO X Accel World crossover with Kirito VS Haruyuki.

[bakato]

crossover with SAO.............................. *ugh* :eyebrow:

I thought the same, but it isn't that bad considering they each wrote a different part so you can read them in their respective author's writing styles.

Apparently some people can't be bothered to open the link and read the intro provided by the translators so here it is.

As some of you know, the Sword Art Online series has been cooperating with the Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei. Aside from Kirito dressing as Tatsuya and vice versa, another collaboration was a crossover story written jointly by the authors of both series. The crossover was written in two parts. The first part, titled Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei X Sword Art Online: Dream Game -Crossover- (due to it being an overly long title, I'll refer to it as just "Dream Game -Crossover-"), was written by the author of Mahouka, Satou Tsutomu, and was published on volume 39 of the Dengeki Bunko Magazine. The second part, titled Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei x Sword Art Online: Versus II (how original... at least it's shorter, I guess), was written by the author of SAO, Kawahara Reki, and published on the following volume of the Dengeki Bunko Magazine.

Although I personally don't really have that much of an interest in Mahouka (though, luckily, Pryun does, so I managed to get his help on this project), apparently, Kirito and company join at the 67-68% point of the story... Anyway, I'm not really sure how interesting this story is going to be, but there's only one way to find out... The synopsis? Basically, Tatsuya and Miyuki from Mahouka somehow get stuck in ALO. And Tatsuya becomes a 'boss monster' whose role seems to be to guard his sister. So basically, just the usual Mahouka, but in ALO.

So...Anyone wanna bet on who's gonna get their ass kicked?

[bakato]

From what I read, it looks like they will fight though since Tatsuya is supposed to be the boss and that the second part is called Versus II. Versus I was a SAO X Accel World crossover with Kirito VS Haruyuki.

So...Anyone wanna bet on who's gonna get their ass kicked?

[bietchie11]

I wonder, why is the author pairing Minami with Minoru Kudou?

Obviously to add another dead-weight to Tatsuya.

[Echizen777]

So...Anyone wanna bet on who's gonna get their ass kicked?

I would have said Kirito but these kind of story usually end without any side winning. It should be entertaining though, I like the story so far. I just hope Tatsuya won't be OOC in Kawahara's story.

[Iramohs]

Obviously to add another dead-weight to Tatsuya.

You mean Minoru? Minoru is someone who doesn't need a babysitter at all. Minami is combat magician trained by the Yotsuba from childhood. Neither of them are dead weight.

[novalysis]

Minoru's genes are defective though. Minami and Minoru both have unstable lifespans so I doubt the Kudou would want that pairing(assuming Minoru lives past 20).

Unless Minoru doesn't live pass 20.....

In that case, I think the pairing makes a terrifying amount of bittersweet sense. The Kudou's wouldn't have to be as worried about the fine print that whoever marries Minoru will be widowed at a young age.

[Echizen777]

You mean Minoru? Minoru is someone who doesn't need a babysitter at all. Minami is combat magician trained by the Yotsuba from childhood. Neither of them are dead weight.

He needs a nurse when he is not in good condition though :heh:

[novalysis]

He needs a nurse when he is not in good condition though :heh:

I am trying to think... why would Miyuki lease out Minami to Minoru?:heh:

That sounds abit wrong...

[somerand]

I am trying to think... why would Miyuki lease out Minami to Minoru?:heh:

That sounds abit wrong...

I'm sure Miyuki wouldn't mind lending Minami to Minoru a couple of days a week so she can have some alone time with her onii-sama.

[Armando99]

I thought the same, but it isn't that bad considering they each wrote a different part so you can read them in their respective author's writing styles.

Apparently some people can't be bothered to open the link and read the intro provided by the translators so here it is.



So...Anyone wanna bet on who's gonna get their ass kicked?


Do you even need to ask? First he uses Gram Demolition then he kicks his ass with his martial arts. That is all he needs. Need say anymore?

[Iramohs]

I am trying to think... why would Miyuki lease out Minami to Minoru?

That sounds abit wrong...

I'm sure Miyuki hates the fact that Minami lives with them. Anytime she can have alone with Tatsuya is a win for her.

[Aciald]

Do you even need to ask? First he uses Gram Demolition then he kicks his ass with his martial arts. That is all he needs. Need say anymore?

Actually it's even worse than that. Right off the bat we are informed Tatsuya can use decomposition to wipe out the virtual world and get a good nights sleep but decides not to.

Still, it's fun to read because outside of the Mahouka setting this is the author portraying Tatsuya and Miyuki just as he envisions them. Sometimes gets lost in the Mahouka universe but those two are pretty damn cold blooded themselves.

Tatsuya's biggest concern in the fight is that they don't seem to have bones he can break, and Miyuki is full 'oh it's a shame onii-sama had to rip that boys lungs out... I should make some tea.'

Freaking cold blooded both of em. Yotsuba to the bone.

[Echizen777]

I'm sure Miyuki wouldn't mind lending Minami to Minoru a couple of days a week so she can have some alone time with her onii-sama.

But Tatsuya was busy, if Minami is missing, who will prtotect Miyuki then?

[somerand]

But Tatsuya was busy, if Minami is missing, who will prtotect Miyuki then?

Tatsuya was her guardian alone for many years without Minami, Miyuki will survive the exact same way they did long before Minami was around. Besides if an opponent is powerful enough to take Miyuki down then Minami isn't likely to be doing all that much "protecting".

[Armando99]

Minami isn't going anywhere. Remember, she is Miyuki's guardian albeit second to Tatsuya. Her place is always with Miyuki. They even made excuses on why she had to be in the student council so she could be with Miyuki.

Also, let us not underestimate the power and ability of Minami.

[somerand]

Minami isn't going anywhere. Remember, she is Miyuki's guardian albeit second to Tatsuya. Her place is always with Miyuki. They even made excuses on why she had to be in the student council so she could be with Miyuki.

Also, let us not underestimate the power and ability of Minami.

I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that Minami would be sent to Minoru.

[bietchie11]

While i said dead-weight (which he is at the moment), there are many things left to be seen.

For example, what is his personality like? How much obligation toward his clan does he impose on himself? ect

I do have high hope that Minoru will end up in the same way as Miki.

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On another topic, i feel relieved that i haven't acquired the incest fetish.
Just read the Elysion and i was like "nope, not gonna ship them".
It seems Tatsuya and Miyuki is simply the only special case for me.

[pampz21]

While i said dead-weight (which he is at the moment), there are many things left to be seen.

For example, what is his personality like? How much obligation toward his clan does he impose on himself? ect

I do have high hope that Minoru will end up in the same way as Miki.

----------------------------------------------------

On another topic, i feel relieved that i haven't acquired the incest fetish.
Just read the Elysion and i was like "nope, not gonna ship them".
It seems Tatsuya and Miyuki is simply the only special case for me.

By what do you mean "end up like Miki?"
do you think god can cure him?

Iam not fond of incest but cousins are OK in my book.

[Echizen777]

Actually it's even worse than that. Right off the bat we are informed Tatsuya can use decomposition to wipe out the virtual world and get a good nights sleep but decides not to.

Still, it's fun to read because outside of the Mahouka setting this is the author portraying Tatsuya and Miyuki just as he envisions them. Sometimes gets lost in the Mahouka universe but those two are pretty damn cold blooded themselves.

Tatsuya's biggest concern in the fight is that they don't seem to have bones he can break, and Miyuki is full 'oh it's a shame onii-sama had to rip that boys lungs out... I should make some tea.'

Freaking cold blooded both of em. Yotsuba to the bone.

He didn't kow what would have happened though, so it was risky. He was unable to use it when he tested it too. Tatsuya would wreck Kirito under normal circumstances but in the virtual world he is an expert swordsman with high level martial skills, and his reactions are fast enough to deflect projectiles.

[MalaIT]

I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that Minami would be sent to Minoru.
Miyuki: "Minami, this is an order. Go to look after Minoru!"
Minami: "U-Understood"
Minami agrees but then begins to fidgeting.
Miyuki: "What?"
Minami: "U-Um, what should I do Miyuki-sama with Minoru?"
Minami say starting to blush slightly..
Miyuki: "W-What? U-Um..what..yes, imagines that Minoru is an onii-sama and attend to Minoru lovingly!"
At the request of Minami initially Miyuki seems hesitant but then seems to have a flash of inspiration.
Minami: "Acknowledged..Miyuki-sama!?"

[bietchie11]

By what do you mean "end up like Miki?"
do you think god can cure him?

Iam not fond of incest but cousins are OK in my book.

Have problems-> solved by Tatsuya-> remain loyal to him as the payment while striking to be better by himself afterward

and get a nice piece of ass along the way.

[Echizen777]

Have problems-> solved by Tatsuya-> remain loyal to him as the payment while striking to be better by himself afterward

and get a nice piece of ass along the way.

Spoilers say that he is using his magic recklessly without considering commoners, so there is no way he will become like that. Plus Tatsuya only told him what was the cause of his problem, he will likely solve this alone, helped by his clan during the 4 years he has to live.

[pampz21]

Have problems-> solved by Tatsuya-> remain loyal to him as the payment while striking to be better by himself afterward

and get a nice piece of ass along the way.

Thats gonna Be hard as theyre on a different school; but I get what you mean; rather than ass; Miki is so lucky to have a pair of handsful of that "manju".:heh:

[bietchie11]

Spoilers say that he is using his magic recklessly without considering commoners, so there is no way he will become like that. Plus Tatsuya only told him what was the cause of his problem, he will likely solve this alone, helped by his clan during the 4 years he has to live.

That's exactly the first and foremost quality to be able to stand beside Tatsuya.

Ability to ruthlessly solve any threats by any means necessary.

[Armando99]

He didn't kow what would have happened though, so it was risky. He was unable to use it when he tested it too. Tatsuya would wreck Kirito under normal circumstances but in the virtual world he is an expert swordsman with high level martial skills, and his reactions are fast enough to deflect projectiles.


I was under the assumption that Tatsuya had at least his basis skills and magic and not necessarily the strategic ones. Besides, even with just his martial arts alone, Tatsuya will and I mean will defeat Kirito quite handily. After all, Tatsuya is pretty much at master level, per sensei.

I don't remember Kirito having high level martial skills. He always fought with his sword and never hand to hand. I could be wrong but I don't remember reading any of it.

[Echizen777]

I was under the assumption that Tatsuya had at least his basis skills and magic and not necessarily the strategic ones. Besides, even with just his martial arts alone, Tatsuya will and I mean will defeat Kirito quite handily. After all, Tatsuya is pretty much at master level, per sensei.

I don't remember Kirito having high level martial skills. He always fought with his sword and never hand to hand. I could be wrong but I don't remember reading any of it.

Pretty sure that he will be able to use Decomposition at a certain moment, as of now he said that all magics can't be reproduced, he only used a psion bullet and Miyuki some ice magic.

Kirito has a Martial Arts skill which supports his Swordmanship, he doesn't use it barehanded.

[pampz21]

That's exactly the first and foremost quality to be able to stand beside Tatsuya.

Ability to ruthlessly solve any threats by any means necessary.

Lol the only one like that Erika tho; Leo and Miki has their own sense of code of conduct. Beside Tatsuya isnt ruthless; the fact that unless Miyuki's life on the line; He's pretty much harmless.:heh:

[MalaIT]

Hey. I didn't know where to post this, but you guys remember that crossover with SAO?
It's being translated here (http://dreadfuldecoding.blogspot.com/2015/01/dream-game.html).
In the story there is the following line:
Last time――in other words, one year ago――this had also happened..
Is there another translated story like this, a previous episode, anyone have the link?

[bietchie11]

i am surprised with the lack of reaction when the "Onii-sama" part is translated.

This sub-forum is no longer fun as it used to be.

[Echizen777]

i am surprised with the lack of reaction when the "Onii-sama" part is translated.

This sub-forum is no longer fun as it used to be.

It can't be helped. We are too behind, originally we learnt about this thanks to TrueAlchemist's summaries and there were a lot of reactions but now we are just waiting for the translation to read and have more details.

[bakato]

I was under the assumption that Tatsuya had at least his basis skills and magic and not necessarily the strategic ones. Besides, even with just his martial arts alone, Tatsuya will and I mean will defeat Kirito quite handily. After all, Tatsuya is pretty much at master level, per sensei.

I don't remember Kirito having high level martial skills. He always fought with his sword and never hand to hand. I could be wrong but I don't remember reading any of it.

Don't be too sure about that. Remember that this is a VRMMO. Things like physical strength are quantified and determined by stats. The only things that actually depend on the player are reaction speed, equipment, and knowledge of game mechanics like sword skills.

Tatsuya is a boss monster so we can expect him not to lose stat-wise. Reaction speed is somewhat iffy. Kirito is proven to have the best reflexes among players and he's certainly not lacking in combat experience. Plus, odds are he'll have his swords handy when they do fight. He definitely has the edge in knowledge of the game, but Tatsuya's a quick study so I'm sure that won't last too long.

Pretty sure that he will be able to use Decomposition at a certain moment, as of now he said that all magics can't be reproduced, he only used a psion bullet and Miyuki some ice magic.

Kirito has a Martial Arts skill which supports his Swordmanship, he doesn't use it barehanded.

He said he could use Decomposition, but he can't risk it because he doesn't know what'll happen. The author never even mentioned Restoration, but I suspect that was deliberate because there's no reason for it not to work and then it'd be no contest.

All in all, it's gonna be interesting watching these two different protagonists interact.

In the story there is the following line:

Is there another translated story like this, a previous episode, anyone have the link?

According to the reference,

The first 8 Mahouka limited edition BDs apparently also came with a side story, titled "Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Dream Game" (8 parts). That's most likely the past event that is continuously being referred to in this story.

[yellowsnake]

http://mahouka.jp/img/bddvd/jk_vol9.jpg

lol

[caminhas]

http://mahouka.jp/img/bddvd/jk_vol9.jpg

lol

now kiss!!!!!!!!

[Guest2]

Don't be too sure about that. Remember that this is a VRMMO. Things like physical strength are quantified and determined by stats. The only things that actually depend on the player are reaction speed, equipment, and knowledge of game mechanics like sword skills.

Tatsuya is a boss monster so we can expect him not to lose stat-wise. Reaction speed is somewhat iffy. Kirito is proven to have the best reflexes among players and he's certainly not lacking in combat experience. Plus, odds are he'll have his swords handy when they do fight. He definitely has the edge in knowledge of the game, but Tatsuya's a quick study so I'm sure that won't last too long.Morisaki makes a comment in v5 relating to how experienced modern magicians have super fast reflexes/senses because of the magic they practice or something like that. Based on this info Kirito should technically only have the advantage of equipment and game knowledge and game experience, which may still be more than enough at the beginning.

[bietchie11]

Do you know where can i watch the newest Yoku wakaru mahouka? Please PM me.

[IceHism]

Reading Tatsuya and Miyuki in ALO was so lolol. Definitely looking forward to any updates.

I like how miyuki got excited at the thought of bringing harm to people.

[Echizen777]

Do you know where can i watch the newest Yoku wakaru mahouka? Please PM me.

The one with Mari and co? You can find them all here (http://mahouka.us/).

[bietchie11]

The one with Mari and co? You can find them all here (http://mahouka.us/).

Thanks, Mayumi fan.

[pampz21]

Thanks, Mayumi fan.

......

>_>

Anyways how nostaglic; I wish they didnt cut off Miki and Mizuki's interaction in the anime;its one of the most funny and cute scenes. Oh how I wanted to see it animated. ;)

[bakato]

Morisaki makes a comment in v5 relating to how experienced modern magicians have super fast reflexes/senses because of the magic they practice or something like that. Based on this info Kirito should technically only have the advantage of equipment and game knowledge and game experience, which may still be more than enough at the beginning.

But by no means superhuman and it would only apply to magicians who have used personal acceleration magic a good number of times. Does Tatsuya even have the skill to use that level of magic? Not that it would matter anyways since Tatsuya's been trained in combat since birth.

All I'm saying is, that Kirito shouldn't be that outmatched in this area.

[dai ca superman]

Get some pics from Dengeki Magazine Vol 42:
May be some side stories from Nine Schools Competition 2nd year that author had said before.
Btw, Shizuku's so cute :))
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9aQz_ICEAAU6cB.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9cgD5jCUAAC9qy.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9cl1cKCcAA1dLN.jpg:large
And Lina - 'New char' from Android game Lost Zero. Coming soon :))
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ctkMdCIAA4lX2.jpg

[Armando99]

But by no means superhuman and it would only apply to magicians who have used personal acceleration magic a good number of times. Does Tatsuya even have the skill to use that level of magic? Not that it would matter anyways since Tatsuya's been trained in combat since birth.

All I'm saying is, that Kirito shouldn't be that outmatched in this area.


Let's see, a trained and experienced, real life killer vs a "game" trained swordsman/fighter.

Based on what I have read so far, it looks like his fighting ability is intact in VR. He was able to beat the attackers rather easily. It also seems that he can use some of his magic and analyze their results as well indicating he retained his intelligence (genius level). So far, everything seems to be in his advantage.

[Echizen777]

Let's see, a trained and experienced, real life killer vs a "game" trained swordsman/fighter.

Based on what I have read so far, it looks like his fighting ability is intact in VR. He was able to beat the attackers rather easily. It also seems that he can use some of his magic and analyze their results as well indicating he retained his intelligence (genius level). So far, everything seems to be in his advantage.

Intelligence doessn't change because of the VR. For his physical skills, they have probably been converted into points. He is strong enough to be considered a Boss character after all.

[Armando99]

Intelligence doessn't change because of the VR. For his physical skills, they have probably been converted into points. He is strong enough to be considered a Boss character after all.


This is the main point, his intelligence did not change in VR. His programming as well as technical skills could probably enable him to take over the program or at the least to make changes to it as long as he can find any access port.

[Blonddude42]

Do you think Tatsuya would be able to counter magic and sword skills with his limited magic use? Because if he can Tatsuya is incredible OP here. Kirito's advantage in equipment has been proven by himself to not make too much of a difference. His only advantage is that he knows what is going on because Tatsuya seems to be winging it right now.

[Echizen777]

This is the main point, his intelligence did not change in VR. His programming as well as technical skills could probably enable him to take over the program or at the least to make changes to it as long as he can find any access port.

I don't think it's possible to hack it from the game, with the NerveGear the player is uncounscious in reality wile he is interacting with the virtual world, you can't program or do anything like that. It is said they are here thanks to an OOPart though, and this subject has not been heavily touched in the LN so...

Do you think Tatsuya would be able to counter magic and sword skills with his limited magic use? Because if he can Tatsuya is incredible OP here. Kirito's advantage in equipment has been proven by himself to not make too much of a difference. His only advantage is that he knows what is going on because Tatsuya seems to be winging it right now.

Magic, yes, Sword Skills, I don't think so. They are only physical moves.

[IceHism]

I think its funny that for 7 volumes of the blu ray, each sold an average of 10k without the expected drops. I think season 2 might be coming sooner if the bd volumes still succeed at this rate.

[Iramohs]

I think its funny that for 7 volumes of the blu ray, each sold an average of 10k without the expected drops. I think season 2 might be coming sooner if the bd volumes still succeed at this rate.

It's good that the sales are decent, but the LN sales should be more important. Mahouka was the best selling LN last year in Japan. The anime definitely played a major part in that.

[IceHism]

It's good that the sales are decent, but the LN sales should be more important. Mahouka was the best selling LN last year in Japan. The anime definitely played a major part in that.

I'm a bit disappointed on that front since I thought the show could boost it up to SAO level sales. Like mahouka, SAO has always been popular as an LN but the anime took it to new highs and it wasn't a small increase either.

Latest volume is poised to sell 200k by 4th week so its not too bad.

[bietchie11]

You guys should take it easy.

We all know Tatsuya will win.

However, this is the friendly cross-over between 2 authors. Therefore our author will allow the pro-gamer Kirito-chan somehow comes out even with Tatsuya since he has interpersonal relationships needed to maintain.

Taking this seriously is as silly as treating "Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax" as a reliable "character's combat prowess" gauge.

[Blonddude42]

Wait a minute. Maybe instead of fighting they will end up teaming up. Kirito has helped out boss level monsters before. Anyone remember the elephant jellyfish hybrid thing?

[bakato]

You guys should take it easy.

We all know Tatsuya will win.

However, this is the friendly cross-over between 2 authors. Therefore our author will allow the pro-gamer Kirito-chan somehow comes out even with Tatsuya since he has interpersonal relationships needed to maintain.

Taking this seriously is as silly as treating "Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax" as a reliable "character's combat prowess" gauge.

The author's already nerfed Tatsuya quite a bit already. It was obvious from the start that they'd have to bring Tatsuya to Kirito's turf considering their natural abilities, but this is a good chance to see Tatsuya's strength without his usual cheat abilities.

Wait a minute. Maybe instead of fighting they will end up teaming up. Kirito has helped out boss level monsters before. Anyone remember the elephant jellyfish hybrid thing?

Reki's part is called "Versus." Remember the Accel World crossover.

[Blonddude42]

The author's already nerfed Tatsuya quite a bit already. It was obvious from the start that they'd have to bring Tatsuya to Kirito's turf considering their natural abilities, but this is a good chance to see Tatsuya's strength without his usual cheat abilities.



Reki's part is called "Versus." Remember the Accel World crossover.

Nope. Care to bring me up to speed?

[bakato]

Nope. Care to bring me up to speed?

Reki's part of this crossover is called "Versus II." He originally did a SAO x Accel World Crossover called "Versus" where he arranged a fight between Kirito and Haruyuki.

[Blonddude42]

Reki's part of this crossover is called "Versus II." He originally did a SAO x Accel World Crossover called "Versus" where he arranged a fight between Kirito and Haruyuki.

Thanks. That helped.

[Armando99]

You guys should take it easy.

We all know Tatsuya will win.

However, this is the friendly cross-over between 2 authors. Therefore our author will allow the pro-gamer Kirito-chan somehow comes out even with Tatsuya since he has interpersonal relationships needed to maintain.

Taking this seriously is as silly as treating "Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax" as a reliable "character's combat prowess" gauge.


Better yet, "just when Tatsuya was about to inflict the "coup de grace" to Kirito, the system started experiencing technical trouble and brought Tatsuya and Miyuki back. End of crossover story.

[amtro]

Am I the only one who noticed that the first damn thing Tatsuya did when he got to ALO was start abusing the Incarnate System? Other spells are understandable, but making a hole in a tree with a regular psion bullet because of its "intent" sounds an awful lot like the IS bullcrap Haruyuki pulls off in Accel World.

[bakato]

Am I the only one who noticed that the first damn thing Tatsuya did when he got to ALO was start abusing the Incarnate System? Other spells are understandable, but making a hole in a tree with a regular psion bullet because of its "intent" sounds an awful lot like the IS bullcrap Haruyuki pulls off in Accel World.

I didn't read anything like that. In this virtual world, gram demolition deals actual damage. Oh and it's been updated.

[amtro]

No, in SAO and AW the incarnate system works based on intent, focus and willpower. Tatsuya's psion bullet dealing actual damage can be attributed to the IS, which is present in ALO, SAO, AW and GGO as well.

[bakato]

No, in SAO and AW the incarnate system works based on intent, focus and willpower. Tatsuya's psion bullet dealing actual damage can be attributed to the IS, which is present in ALO, SAO, AW and GGO as well.

I know that. I'm asking where you read that the physical bullet dealing physical damage was due to intent.

[IceHism]

No, in SAO and AW the incarnate system works based on intent, focus and willpower. Tatsuya's psion bullet dealing actual damage can be attributed to the IS, which is present in ALO, SAO, AW and GGO as well.

well, if interference strength(which kind of sounds like how much you want your magic to affect phenonmenon) in mahouka is like willpower which would let them use the incarnate system, then it sort of makes sense

But hey, at least the powers come from an actual system and not something they have just cause they are the mc

[amtro]

I know that. I'm asking where you read that the physical bullet dealing physical damage was due to intent.

#Thought Particles#(Psions)

Thoughts are ultimately what drive the IS.

[bakato]

Thoughts are ultimately what drive the IS.

IS doesn't work in ALO or regular VRMMORPGs that don't run off the soul. Everything here is run strictly by algorithms so effects like IS are impossible. The effects of Gram Demolition here are is just the system's interpretation of Tatsuya abilities based on his CAD.

[amtro]

IS is present in every VRMMORPG based on Kayaba Akihiko's SAO, it's just more prevalent in AW.

[BalorView]

http://i.imgur.com/Ntz74CK.jpg

:cool::cool::cool:

[Armando99]

http://i.4cdn.org/a/1424068150122.jpg


:cool::cool::cool:


This is really good!!
Thanks!!!!

[pampz21]

http://app.famitsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/00142.jpg

[Armando99]

http://app.famitsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/00142.jpg


This is really good. There are a few missing that I would like to see included in the picture. HAREM all the way!! Go! go! Tatsuya.

[AceTrigger]

Lol the saltiness is real


http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2wkv7w/ranime_awards_2014_winner_thread_2_everything/

[Chirst]

Got all video CG of out of order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y1BXfInfrk#t=62

[Ultragunner]

Lol the saltiness is real


http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2wkv7w/ranime_awards_2014_winner_thread_2_everything/


LOL, I can't stop laughing, praise the Lord!!! :p

Well, it looks like Mahouka the anime, despite all the flags we gave it, has managed to pull off something very unexpected, a cult of "OneTrueTatsuya" LMAO :heh::heh::heh:

[IceHism]

I don't like the anime but i love seeing anime-only watchers being salty about the anime lol

[amtro]

Got all video CG of out of order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y1BXfInfrk#t=62

I see "Ichijou Masaki" there. Ahaha, he got knocked out too.

[bietchie11]

Lol the saltiness is real


http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2wkv7w/ranime_awards_2014_winner_thread_2_everything/


Oh, hi there, AceTrigger!
This is GODSUeYAaah

[Infinite Universe]

Hello, I just wish to know of the relationship between Koichi and Maya. I understand that Koichi fears the Yotsuba clan. . . but is there ever a chance that they will get back together?

[pampz21]

Never knew that Nico Nico started a popularity poll for best female of summer 2014.
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/dd_naranja_vcf/blomaga/ar662782
I felt sorry for Miyuki losing to Illya; but I guess she made a good fight as Fate series are goddamn popular.

[amtro]

The Out of Order game is pretty funny. Has Shizuku threatening to seduce Tatsuya so Miyuki's morale will go crap and she'll win against Miyuki in Pillars Break.

[tigerdave]

Hello, I just wish to know of the relationship between Koichi and Maya. I understand that Koichi fears the Yotsuba clan. . . but is there ever a chance that they will get back together?

I don't think Maya intends to be with anyone. Considering what she went through, I doubt anyone in the clan had or has the balls to try and convince her otherwise.

[bietchie11]

Got all video CG of out of order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y1BXfInfrk#t=62
Good stuff buddy

[Iramohs]

I don't think Maya intends to be with anyone. Considering what she went through, I doubt anyone in the clan had or has the balls to try and convince her otherwise.

There's no point. Marriage for magicians like the Yotsuba are just a way of strengthening their bloodline. There's no love/feelings involved. Perfect example is Miya and Tatsurou.

[Ultragunner]

Got all video CG of out of order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y1BXfInfrk#t=62

Good goddddd!! Mayumi in actual underwear :love: :love: :love:

I'm such a pervert :p

P.S: that moment with Pixie is priceless LOL :heh:

[AceTrigger]

http://i.imgur.com/JiNXKu7.png

beautiful girls~



Oh, hi there, AceTrigger!
This is GODSUeYAaah
oh hey there!

[Echizen777]

Don't want to sound like Pampz but Miyuki is much better with a ponytail :heh:.

[pampz21]

That's not a ponytail! :frustrated:

I didn't notice it before when I uploaded a smaller version but Erika has knife. :eyespin:

PS:
Got all video CG of out of order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y1BXfInfrk#t=62

Thanks for the fun bruh; Erika and Miyuki are still the best.


Edit: http://i1.pixiv.net/c/480x960/img-master/img/2015/02/26/20/45/10/48977328_p0_master1200.jpg

[Armando99]

That's not a ponytail! :frustrated:

I didn't notice it before when I uploaded a smaller version but Erika has knife. :eyespin:

PS:


Thanks for the fun bruh; Erika and Miyuki are still the best.


Edit: http://i1.pixiv.net/c/480x960/img-master/img/2015/02/26/20/45/10/48977328_p0_master1200.jpg


Did you also upload this in Erika forum?

[Echizen777]

Erika with a teddy bear? That's so out of character :heh:

Edit: New bits of the crossover have been translated.

Who were those thinking that Miyuki would be sad if they were not blood-related? :heh:, it's amusing but I find ultimate waifu Miyuki collapsing for such a silly reason forced and out of character .

Kirito's team will appear soon

[AceTrigger]

I would like an OVA about this


http://i.imgur.com/L9I1Wls.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v8SvNdu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vnjebOs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QesZ3hT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bWOc1dx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KcfPyEr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OfWe2JI.jpg

[pampz21]

Did you also upload this in Erika forum?

Nope :D

Erika with a teddy bear? That's so out of character :heh:

Edit: New bits of the crossover have been translated.

Who were those thinking that Miyuki would be sad if they were not blood-related? :heh:, it's amusing but I find ultimate waifu Miyuki collapsing for such a silly reason forced and out of character .

Kirito's team will appear soon

Whats wrong with Teddies; I got one too. Well its not like I sleep with it tho.

I would like an OVA about this


http://i.imgur.com/L9I1Wls.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v8SvNdu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vnjebOs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QesZ3hT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bWOc1dx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KcfPyEr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OfWe2JI.jpg

Tatsuya looks wierd; its either the dual-weilding or the sword is too long. Miyuki looks too uncomfortable or it doesnt suit her. Leo and Shizuku looks natural.

[Rava]

[...]

Tatsuya looks wierd; its either the dual-weilding or the sword is too long. Miyuki looks too uncomfortable or it doesnt suit her. Leo and Shizuku looks natural.

Yeah, Tatsuya and Miyuki look like they naturally have something ELSE in their hands and someone swapped items with a bad photoshop.

[bakato]

Erika with a teddy bear? That's so out of character :heh:

Edit: New bits of the crossover have been translated.

Who were those thinking that Miyuki would be sad if they were not blood-related? :heh:, it's amusing but I find ultimate waifu Miyuki collapsing for such a silly reason forced and out of character .

Kirito's team will appear soon

All finished. Ugh. Tatsuya was completely outmatched. In the end, this whole story leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[yellowsnake]

I would like an OVA about this


http://i.imgur.com/L9I1Wls.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v8SvNdu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vnjebOs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QesZ3hT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bWOc1dx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KcfPyEr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OfWe2JI.jpg

Tatsuya should have been king.

[IceHism]

All finished. Ugh. Tatsuya was completely outmatched. In the end, this whole story leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Kirito confirmed more OP than Tatsuya
either that or the author had to significantly gimp Tatsuya so Kirito could win.

[bakato]

Kirito confirmed more OP than Tatsuya
either that or the author had to significantly gimp Tatsuya so Kirito could win.

Tatsuya was obviously glimped. Imagine if he had his Regrowth.

[BalorView]

http://blog-imgs-74.fc2.com/b/u/h/buhidoh/002_thumb_20150221005721.jpg

http://blog-imgs-74.fc2.com/b/u/h/buhidoh/003_thumb_20150221005726.jpg




Mayumi, why are you so cute ? :p