View Full Version : Monster no Goshujin-sama
Original Title: モンスターのご主人様
Alternative Title: Monster Tamer / Master of Monsters
Author: Higure Minto (日暮 眠都)
Illustrations: Napo (ナポ)
Status: Started on 2013/12/14 - ongoing
Link: Web Novel (http://ncode.syosetu.com/n9543bw/)
Currently being translated by RE:Translations (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ljoXDy-ti5N7ZYPbzDsj5kvYFl3lEWaJ1l3Lzv1cuuM/preview?pli=1)
According to wikia, volume 1 is going to be released on August 30.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818114424/monster-tamer/images/6/6f/MT01.jpg
An entire school has been tossed into a fantasy world without knowing what happened. Suddenly monsters attack and kill a lot of students, but then other students started to fight back with cheat abilities. A few days later, everyone has been divided into the Stay Home Group and Exploration Group. The exploration group wanted to see if there’s anything else to find and take care off in the forest that they are in. They are armed to brim with cheats and makeshift weapons. The Stay Home Group doesnt have cheat abilities…. after the Exploration Group leaves, the stay home group gets split as a riot ensues. Student killing student, girls getting raped by their fellow classmates… and our MC starts to run towards the forest. After running, evading lots of monsters… he wounds up in a cave, exhausted and almost ready to die… when a Slime approaches him. It first tried to eat his hand and all he could do was “...please… someone out there… help me….”
casgoldsmith
2014-08-27, 15:12
kawai slime
Finally! Art's not looking too bad either.
NovelReader
2014-08-27, 15:27
Lily and Rose finally came out!
maybe its because I have a rather unpleasent memories of it but,
girls getting raped by their fellow classmates…
makes me really worried and kinda hesitant of trying to read this.
nacer666
2014-08-27, 16:02
It is the entire school not a single class.
It is the entire school not a single class.
Fixed.
maybe its because I have a rather unpleasent memories of it but,
makes me really worried and kinda hesitant of trying to read this.
What the MC does with the rapists is reaaally nice~ Truly gentle~ :cool:
Lily's ability is a little broken and her personality is so~....dere?
Fixed.
What the MC does with the rapists is reaaally nice~ Truly gentle~ :cool:
Lily's ability is a little broken and her personality is so~....dere?
what did he do?
Okashira
2014-08-27, 22:21
what did he do?
He finds a rape scene later, for the guilty party they chop up their extremities and then kill them "not quickly". The monster girls carry out most of it.
I eyed the start of this a while ago.... If I'm not mistaken, there is.....
slime sex :heh: Love struck Lily is of course super cute
He finds a rape scene later, for the guilty party they chop up their extremities and then kill them "not quickly". The monster girls carry out most of it.
I eyed the start of this a while ago.... If I'm not mistaken, there is.....
slime sex :heh: Love struck Lily is of course super cute
I need to you to clarify. By "extremities," I assume you mean their "lower parts."
NovelReader
2014-08-27, 22:28
He finds a rape scene later, for the guilty party they chop up their extremities and then kill them "not quickly". The monster girls carry out most of it.
I eyed the start of this a while ago.... If I'm not mistaken, there is.....
slime sex :heh: Love struck Lily is of course super cute
Lily is cute. Can't wait for Gebera's illustrations
Okashira
2014-08-27, 22:29
I need to you to clarify. By "extremities," I assume you mean their "lower parts."
extremities are extremities. Arms and legs
Then again, it's been a long while. Maybe I should check again.
nacer666
2014-08-27, 23:17
His ability seems to only affect 'special' female monsters and give them an ego.
Only female monster? next he'll acquire a lamia and change his name to "darling" then. :heh:
I like the way he deals with rapists though.
Argh, now I wanna know what's gonna happen when he return to the campus....
NovelReader
2014-08-27, 23:55
Only female monster? next he'll acquire a lamia and change his name to "darling" then. :heh:
I like the way he deals with rapists though.
Argh, now I wanna know what's gonna happen when he return to the campus....
He rescues Kato and she joins his party. Everyone else still alive is with Silang's group but that is years away.
Welsh_Dragon
2014-08-28, 02:53
Read the first 5 chapters and this is a pretty good novel so far.
Look interesting, might give a try
MrClover
2014-08-28, 05:23
Just reading a few chapters (thanks RE:TRANSLATIONS) and im really liking this very much. Especially the MC manning up early on. He's willing to kill bad guys/classmates whenever he needs to, no drama or fuss about it
On a side note, i noticed RE:TRANSLATIONS has a lot of differnt projects, i hope you guys keep it up. Thanks for the hard work.
His ability seems to only affect 'special' female monsters and give them an ego.
Slime and Magicall Doll initially don't seem to have any gender. Looks like he is the one responsible for them getting female personality.
Also, tried to use MT on the last chapter. Couldn't really get what is going on, but it looks like the whole situation with the fall of Colony was not casual and much more messed up from what it looked like
Looks like some Cheat ability users figured out they are not just gaining powers from monster hunting, but also gaining much more from powerful humans deaths, so the whole situation was intentionally set up.
SineMora
2014-08-28, 06:55
Hell yis! Finally...
A Master of Monster thread...
I wonder if he gained a high tier monster in the future like for example a dragon or a behemoth.
I guess the author hates men.
Alright, gentlemen, you have stirred my interest. Where do I read the translation (if there is one)
kazenoade
2014-08-28, 08:43
^ first post (currently 5ch). enjoy
well atleast we know this guy doesn't mess around.
Girl on the volume cover is Lily in Miyo (girl lily find that died) form?
Puppet is Rose I guess.
I read first few chapters, looking forward to more. I like a little revenge :)
Wonder what more monsters there will be, Would be awesome to see him gain dragon familiar, that's a flying mount! travel has never been easier.
ShiroiRyu
2014-08-28, 09:08
So ... If i understand, the webnovel is translated ...
And so i have to read them ... because i like monsters girls.
It's a good reason ?
well atleast we know this guy doesn't mess around.
Girl on the volume cover is Lily in Miyo (girl lily find that died) form?
Puppet is Rose I guess.
I read first few chapters, looking forward to more. I like a little revenge :)
Wonder what more monsters there will be, Would be awesome to see him gain dragon familiar, that's a flying mount! travel has never been easier.
A dark hero is much more interesting than a straight cut hero.
He rescues Kato and she joins his party. Everyone else still alive is with Silang's group but that is years away.
I feel sorry for Kato, she's really lonely. From what I could get from MT, the MC completely distrusts her and doesn't interact much with her. She envies the way Lily and Rose are treated, like a real family, while she's alone and treated as a stranger.
By the way, was Kato actually raped or the MC saved her before this happens?
Most of what I know comes from MT, so if anyone sees something wrong with what I posted, feel free to correct. I'm afraid my brain lost it's functions along the way :T_T:
Slime and Magicall Doll initially don't seem to have any gender. Looks like he is the one responsible for them getting female personality.
Also, tried to use MT on the last chapter. Couldn't really get what is going on, but it looks like the whole situation with the fall of Colony was not casual and much more messed up from what it looked like
Looks like some Cheat ability users figured out they are not just gaining powers from monster hunting, but also gaining much more from powerful humans deaths, so the whole situation was intentionally set up.
It seems his ability is able to guess the gender of the monster.
“Your name is Lily.”
Giving it a girl’s name felt right, somehow.
Thinking normally, it would be strange to give a woman’s name to a creature without a clear gender. My cheat ability must have guessed her gender.
“From now on, your name is Rose. My best regards from now on.”
The humble Magical Puppet, Rose. Because Lily is lily, I decided to give our second companion the name of a flower. The monster is sexually neutral, or rather, asexual.
The only info I know about his ability is that the monster needs to be unique/special and must not be male.
[spoiler]slime sex :heh: Love struck Lily is of course super cute
haha, it seems there is. After that, Lily's deredere personality is super cute too.
gunner56
2014-08-28, 10:06
A dark hero is much more interesting than a straight cut hero.
*Portraying a pathos tone here*
Since time immemorial, the audience exalted epic heroes. Through the passage of time, we used to despise villians, sometimes we even sympathize for them. Now, in contemporary literature, we praise the anti-hero.
Times have changed...
I found some character designs on wikia.
Mashima Takahiro (MC) (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818114645/monster-tamer/images/b/b2/MT05.jpg)
Lily - Original Form (http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818114503/monster-tamer/images/1/10/MT02.jpg)
Lily - Miho's Form (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818114603/monster-tamer/images/9/9c/MT04.jpg)
Rose (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818114521/monster-tamer/images/7/70/MT03.jpg)
Kato (http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818114701/monster-tamer/images/0/0f/MT06.jpg)
Singally
2014-08-28, 10:35
I feel sorry for Kato, she's really lonely. From what I could get from MT, the MC completely distrusts her and doesn't interact much with her. She envies the way Lily and Rose are treated, like a real family, while she's alone and treated as a stranger.
By the way, was Kato actually raped or the MC saved her before this happens?
I'm also wondering.. is it like one certain infamous scene from the SAO web novel or is it like the light novel version?
Okashira
2014-08-28, 11:21
About the MC, it's hinted that his power can't function on males, basically;
he suspects that it's related to the ability to give birth. Which is funny since the birth is asexual; but "being able to give birth" is due to having the ability of amassing large quantities of magic power; which is what apparently needed to "connect" with the MC
The monster girls basically don't have a personality until they "connect" to the MC; Lily described this as "changing from living in a monochrome world, to one full color and sensations"; it's apparently a passive skill, and they only approach the MC after they have awakened.
They apparently have a hard time to coping with their new found feelings, which is why Lily started eating him first thing :heh:
I feel sorry for Kato, she's really lonely. From what I could get from MT, the MC completely distrusts her and doesn't interact much with her. She envies the way Lily and Rose are treated, like a real family, while she's alone and treated as a stranger.
By the way, was Kato actually raped or the MC saved her before this happens?
It wasn't detailed, but it's pretty much heavily implied that....
It's left to the impression of the viewer. Basically, from the MC perspective he only noticed the issue when there it was already struggling noises inside; and when he arrived he only put his attention on whacking the offenders, her current state wasn't detailed.
I vote that it's more implied that it happened, due to her bad state afterwards; there is also the cruel precedent to Miho (raped even after death) but as I said if the reader wants to believe it didn't happened, it's possible to do so.
She was naked and trembling when the MC arrived
This series is about bonding and relationships (not romantic ones, but the romance is cute), as of the first arc everyone has "traumas", and stuff that it's hard to overcome, and the subplot of the story is about bonding even with their problems, and overcoming them with the emotional support of the group (which is why this is among the most interesting works on narou).
I feel sorry for Kato, she's really lonely. From what I could get from MT, the MC completely distrusts her and doesn't interact much with her. She envies the way Lily and Rose are treated, like a real family, while she's alone and treated as a stranger.
By the way, was Kato actually raped or the MC saved her before this happens?
No way she wasn't raped. We know that the guys went as far as doing necrophilia over Miho's body, Kato was held captive some time, may be even some days, she was naked and bound with some guy assaulting her that time. As well, from the spoilers, she is frightened from the men up to degree to decide later to not showing herself to the class and hiding together with MC's familiars. Well, ,may be in LN version this necrophilia/rape incidents will be altered by attempts.
And after some time she managed to befriend with Mashima's familiars and later with Mashima himself.
The only info I know about his ability is that the monster needs to be unique/special and must not be male.
What about unique/special ? So, Lily being able to use magic and mimic, and Rose being faster and stronger than the first doll was what made them able to be tamed ?
slime sex Love struck Lily is of course super cute
haha, it seems there is. After that, Lily's deredere personality is super cute too.
Wha? They really did something like that ? (I mean,it's OK with Lily, but wasn't MC feeling uneasy about defiling Miho's body/image ?
nacer666
2014-08-28, 11:49
The mc was late for kato and miho but later he saved a loli elf from rape by a villain cheat.
PuddingGod
2014-08-28, 11:52
slime sex Love struck Lily is of course super cute
haha, it seems there is. After that, Lily's deredere personality is super cute too.
Wha? They really did something like that ? (I mean,it's OK with Lily, but wasn't MC feeling uneasy about defiling Miho's body/image ?
the passage of time tends to change many things. the mc is a growing boy afterall lol.
He doesn't want Lily to be defiled by eating "trash". Even if Lily got stronger in doing so he would still chose of her not eating "trash"
No way she wasn't raped. We know that the guys went as far as doing necrophilia over Miho's body, Kato was held captive some time, may be even some days, she was naked and bound with some guy assaulting her that time. As well, from the spoilers, she is frightened from the men up to degree to decide later to not showing herself to the class and hiding together with MC's familiars. Well, ,may be in LN version this necrophilia/rape incidents will be altered by attempts.
And after some time she managed to befriend with Mashima's familiars and later with Mashima himself.
Yeah, I was pretty sure too that she was really raped. But since I did not get a confirmation yet, there was still a tiny hope deep inside :(
What about unique/special ? So, Lily being able to use magic and mimic, and Rose being faster and stronger than the first doll was what made them able to be tamed ?
@Okashira gave an explanation about this in his post above ^
slime sex Love struck Lily is of course super cute
haha, it seems there is. After that, Lily's deredere personality is super cute too.
Wha? They really did something like that ? (I mean,it's OK with Lily, but wasn't MC feeling uneasy about defiling Miho's body/image ?
He was. But after talking with Lily he understood that was not Miho nor was Miho's personality affecting Lily. Even if Lily had Miho's face, she was still Lily. More or less something like this. :heh:
Bonta Kun
2014-08-28, 14:58
The school kids being stuck/taken to a different world and what not is meh, can't say I'm all for that setting but the monster taming part is interesting, thats the hook for me.
If the MC acquires even more unique monsters I'll keep reading even if the story ends up turing to crap.
Altho the MC being quite the avenger is rather a breath of fresh air, just hope he doesn't go all emo later on.
Around chapter 5 I saw mentions of suspected human settlements nearby, and that the expedition team had gone to find them. Have any been found so far or is it still uncharted bat country? Also, does the MC decide to travel or stay mostly stationary in his cave base? Thanks in advance.
The mc was late for kato and miho but later he saved a loli elf from rape by a villain cheat.
Is that Elf girl by any chance Silane(シラン)? Does she join his "family" after that?
Around chapter 5 I saw mentions of suspected human settlements nearby, and that the expedition team had gone to find them. Have any been found so far or is it still uncharted bat country? Also, does the MC decide to travel or stay mostly stationary in his cave base? Thanks in advance.
There is some kind of town close to the forest. I'm not so sure but the setting is more or less this:
1000 school kids get summoned to that World to save the Kingdom and it's people from the monsters. Long story short, they're summoned heroes from another World.
And yes, the MC does some exploring around.
Again, not sure if everything, if any at all, which I posted is correct. :heh:
PS: Does the cheat abilities come with some kind of rape drive? Because, really, there's too much rape attempt in this for people who came from the modern society. :uhoh: Still, the novel is damn good, it's even worth the damage my brain is receiving from MT. :heh:
Okashira
2014-08-28, 22:26
PS: Does the cheat abilities come with some kind of rape drive? Because, really, there's too much rape attempt in this for people who came from the modern society. :uhoh:
Of course not. Basically they are just a bunch of brats, and suddenly they obtained a great power, "enough to get everything you want", and furthermore they are no longer regulated by anything in a foreing land with no hope of returning home. Add to that a couple of near dead experiences and seeing people around you die meaninglessly, and it ended up like that.
In other words, it's the Hokuto no Ken logic, all over again.
Of course not. Basically they are just a bunch of brats, and suddenly they obtained a great power, "enough to get everything you want", and furthermore they are no longer regulated by anything in a foreing land with no hope of returning home. Add to that a couple of near dead experiences and seeing people around you die meaninglessly, and it ended up like that.
In other words, it's the Hokuto no Ken logic, all over again.
Well, I know that. It was more like a rhetorical question, I was just expressing my exasperation :heh: I kind of understand why they went insane, but still.... :(
Of course not. Basically they are just a bunch of brats, and suddenly they obtained a great power, "enough to get everything you want", and furthermore they are no longer regulated by anything in a foreing land with no hope of returning home. Add to that a couple of near dead experiences and seeing people around you die meaninglessly, and it ended up like that.
In other words, it's the Hokuto no Ken logic, all over again.
so, they're just bunch of kids who given a basket full of sweets each person?
it this harem, or is he mostly attracted to Lily.
Wandering Soul
2014-08-28, 23:55
Just read the first five chapters and this is pretty good so far. I feel bad for Kayo and hope she can cope with what happened.
zerodragon
2014-08-28, 23:56
Just read the first five chapters and this is pretty good so far. I feel bad for Kayo and hope she can cope with what happened.
same, pretty awesome read so far
Well, I know that. It was more like a rhetorical question, I was just expressing my exasperation :heh: I kind of understand why they went insane, but still.... :(
I don't. I think the plot is rather juvenile so far. Its like a fanfic, where rape is used to produce "DRAMA".
I also think the main character is a bit of a hypocrite.
Okashira
2014-08-29, 01:27
it this harem, or is he mostly attracted to Lily.
Basically, Rose is too respectful and prude, so far she doesn't even think on tempting him at all.... It's hinted that the things that she needs to overcome are unrelated to romance, her feelings are akin the ones of a knight towards her liege.
Garbera, while extremely innocent and pure, due to her body age being rather old, she probably has the best body out of the girls :heh: her complete ignorance on male / female relationships adds to her a mysterious charm that is incredibly entrancing, even though she doesn't even try to act as a seductress; she manages to catch Takahiro's attention from time to time :heh: It's also somewhat hinted that she can overcome her issues without romance, mentally she is closer to a child rather than a teenager.
Aaaaaand.... Takahiro, raised in a regular japanese household with normal moral values, has promised himself only to be "that" towards Lily, and to cherish her properly, never betraying her..... While his personality is respectful & doesn't push much for romance, Lily's character is the carnivorous type, and whenever they have private time she will do something, and Takahiro is quite receptive of her "I'm a boy after all" :heh: Lily's need of Takahiro is incredibly strong, thus unlike the others; some loving will do her some good.
That's where I was.
Welsh_Dragon
2014-08-29, 01:50
Who is Garbera? And is rose still in that wooden puppet form?
This looks interesting, but I guess its sorta dark with people dieing and all. Surviver horror ? Set like Cradle of Monsters ?
Okashira
2014-08-29, 02:08
Who is Garbera? And is rose still in that wooden puppet form?
Duh, spoiler tags.
A large White spider who has femme fatale looks; a high class monster but she is mentally immature, and she knows "little" about life outside following her predator instinct; she had a really rough start with the party but Takehiro quickly understood her and opened up to her, paving a path for her to become part of the family.
I don't remember if it was Garbera or a variation of it; I think she was also named after a flower?
Rose decided to "become cuter" because she wants to be embraced by Takehiro (implied the non sexual way, it already happened once when he was injuried); but were I am she still hasn't taken steps to that; she counts with the support of the student girl who is tagging along the family, she promised to supervise Rose after they pleaded friendship.
Duh, spoiler tags.
A large White spider who has femme fatale looks; a high class monster but she is mentally immature, and she knows "little" about life outside following her predator instinct; she had a really rough start with the party but Takehiro quickly understood her and opened up to her, paving a path for her to become part of the family.
I don't remember if it was Garbera or a variation of it; I think she was also named after a flower?
Rose decided to "become cuter" because she wants to be embraced by Takehiro (implied the non sexual way, it already happened once when he was injuried); but were I am she still hasn't taken steps to that; she counts with the support of the student girl who is tagging along the family, she promised to supervise Rose after they pleaded friendship.
so is the student girl Kato?
So is she still a wooden doll?
Welsh_Dragon
2014-08-30, 03:35
Looks like chapter 6 is up now.
SineMora
2014-08-30, 04:58
Duh, spoiler tags.
A large White spider who has femme fatale looks; a high class monster but she is mentally immature, and she knows "little" about life outside following her predator instinct; she had a really rough start with the party but Takehiro quickly understood her and opened up to her, paving a path for her to become part of the family.
I don't remember if it was Garbera or a variation of it; I think she was also named after a flower?
Rose decided to "become cuter" because she wants to be embraced by Takehiro (implied the non sexual way, it already happened once when he was injuried); but were I am she still hasn't taken steps to that; she counts with the support of the student girl who is tagging along the family, she promised to supervise Rose after they pleaded friendship.
Uhhh... Our beloved "Dear Fair Lady"? Only more smaller and (a lot) healthier?
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120124035724/darksouls/images/7/73/Quelaag's_Sister.jpg
NOTE: I'm a proud Chaos Servant Member.
Chapter 6 is out and....
Slime sex did really occur :nod:
About Miho, did I understand wrong or did she really like Takahiro? I had a hunch when Takahiro said that she knew his name despite their never talking before.
Chapter 6 is out and....
Slime sex did really occur :nod:
About Miho, did I understand wrong or did she really like Takahiro? I had a hunch when Takahiro said that she knew his name despite their never talking before.
I think so too coz
when lily embrace takahiro, she said she wants fulfill the last wish/regret of the girl she mimic, so i suposse miho had a crush on taka and being raped and not able to confess her love to him remain as regret, r last think...:heh:
Even so LOL? Hajime until ch. 24 or so dont do t with yue, rudi until vol.6 dont do it with eris, and taka....
So fast...:heh:
Okashira
2014-08-30, 14:36
Chapter 6 is out and....
Slime sex did really occur :nod:
About Miho, did I understand wrong or did she really like Takahiro? I had a hunch when Takahiro said that she knew his name despite their never talking before.
It's pretty likely that....
Miho's last regret probably was "to part from your loved one"; I certainly doubt about 'that loved one' being Takahiro; since they had like 0 interaction at all. Plus, even though she was kind to him once; it's not hinted that it had a deeper meaning.
Lily most likely is just partially influenced by that "your loved one" bit, even though the identity of "him" was completely different (it's hinted that Takahiro came to this conclusion as well)..... After all, Lily got "info" from Miho, it's not hinted that she has that much of a clear grasp on "Miho" yet
There is of course,
Miho's childhood friend and suitor, who is crazy about her, liked her from way back and was the one who saved her from the colony's collapse.
It has been hinted that his reaction to "Lily" is gonna be a strong one, specially since it doesn't matter how one looks at it; when she is around her Master, Lily simply looks like a girl in love ♪
Miho's childhood friend and suitor, who is crazy about her, liked her from way back and was the one who saved her from the colony's collapse.
It has been hinted that his reaction to "Lily" is gonna be a strong one, specially since it doesn't matter how one looks at it; when she is around her Master, Lily simply looks like a girl in love ♪
Too bad that guy could not save Miho in the end. Why did she die and he is still alive?
Okashira
2014-08-30, 16:28
Too bad that guy could not save Miho in the end. Why did she die and he is still alive?
Duh, spoilers..... Or maybe not because it was translated already?
Anyway :
He saved her from the colony's collapse, but Miho didn't die then. For what I got, what he did was basically take Miho and Mana (who tagged along) to a safe place (that hut that repels monster); and then he rushed in a frantic fight to find the expedition group, so that they return and bring some sort of control to the situation. He succeded on that, and I'm not sure of his movements after that; but it's hinted that he returned and couldn't find her; and still hopes on finding her.
Obviously, the reason for Miho's death is that she was found by a malicious human party later, I can't remember when it was; but it was way later than the colony's collapse.
I'm not sure of this, but when Takahiro and "Miho" sneak into the human north fort; wasn't that childhood friend guy in a mission on the east along most of the cheats? (it's hinted that he is searching for her); I think that up to the latest episode (skimming through), he is still unaware of Miho's current condition.
His frantic fight earned him the sympathy from some members of the expedition group, who were cheering on the pairing; some even said inwardly something like "that's too sad" when they saw Lily's lovestruck mode on Takahiro.
Duh, spoilers..... Or maybe not because it was translated already?
Anyway :
He saved her from the colony's collapse, but Miho didn't die then. For what I got, what he did was basically take Miho and Mana (who tagged along) to a safe place (that hut that repels monster); and then he rushed in a frantic fight to find the expedition group, so that they return and bring some sort of control to the situation. He succeded on that, and I'm not sure of his movements after that; but it's hinted that he returned and couldn't find her; and still hopes on finding her.
Obviously, the reason for Miho's death is that she was found by a malicious human party later, I can't remember when it was; but it was way later than the colony's collapse.
I'm not sure of this, but when Takehiro and "Miho" sneak into the human north fort; wasn't that childhood friend guy in a mission on the east along most of the cheats? (it's hinted that he is searching for her); I think that up to the latest episode (skimming though), he is still unaware of Miho's current condition.
His frantic fight earned him the sympathy from some members of the expedition group, who were cheering on the pairing; some even said inwardly something like "that's too sad" when they saw Lily's lovestruck mode on Takahiro.
So anyone wanna bet on how he reacts when he sees "Miho"? I'm all in for the annoying denial reaction.
amatsunagi
2014-08-30, 16:40
Lily character design is just what I imagined her to be, well, close~ ^^
Futabasha Monster is more fervent than MFbooks... and that's kind of bad on my wallet orz
Kind of surprised that Mana is using a shield, or maybe I just forgot about it
Lily character design is just what I imagined her to be, well, close~ ^^
Futabasha Monster is more fervent than MFbooks... and that's kind of bad on my wallet orz
Kind of surprised that Mana is using a shield, or maybe I just forgot about it
If I'm not mistaken, Takahiro only gives Mana a shield and no weapons because he doesn't trust "humans".
amatsunagi
2014-08-31, 12:41
Guess I miss that little fact, I thought he didn't give her anything at all (I should re reread the first part), and have Rose stick with her, or in another words, watch her.
Okashira
2014-08-31, 14:32
Whoa, amazing....
The last stretch of chapters have been amazing, the bonding between "friends" have been great, and the betrayals and deception have been equally good if not even better. It's wonderul how the series hinted that there is the presence of a "maoh like" villain being that humany has to battle, to later disprove that and show us again how the only evil of the world, is the one in the heart of men.
Silane, the talented knight captain who believed on Takahiro, and who Takahiro was tilted towards believing after several bonding experiences; who was even hinted to be his human "ally" and had the possibility of greatly healing Takahiro's trust issues; was brutally murdered while helping Takahiro and fighting off one of the enigmatic antagonist which was kept under warps until the latest reveals.
While Takahiro and his family are no match for the antagonist, Silane raises as a zombie and starts eating the arm of who killed her in a successful "surprise attack"; after realizing that as a ghoul, Silane is an "special existence" among ghouls with great magic power; Takahiro further stretched his deduction pointing out that she awakened as a ghoul when her grand-daughter was about to be killed. Reading that there is an intention in her actions even though she has lost her sanity; Takahiro decides to reach towards Silane's heart and purposely tries to use his "tame skill" for the first time (all of the previous captures, where basically accidental).
The current chapter ends as he makes his resolve, and when he realizes that his ability works the best, the closer he is; thus he needs to perform hand contanct on the raging Silane.
If I'm reading this right, apparently the book version added more "Lily perspective" bits.
From what has been posted, a lot of the novels added needed fleshing out for the characters and tightened up the story a bit.
Did Takahiro just dump Kato Mana off when they got to a human settlement/safe area, or did he learn to at least trust her slightly?
Okashira
2014-08-31, 15:10
Did Takahiro just dump Kato Mana off when they got to a human settlement/safe area, or did he learn to at least trust her slightly?
The original plan was to have Mana, Takahiro and Lily sneak into a human patrol that they bumped into, and see if they can leave Mana safely in the human settlement. Ayame decided to tag along in replacement of Gerbera, after sensing her uneasiness; and Asalina apparently can't separate from Takahiro without dying, so those 2 are forced to tag along; Ayame is travelling in a "cavity" that Lily made in her torso big enough for her.
When they were fine tuning the details of the plan after spotting the humans, the lead of the patrol (it was Silane, right?) noticed that "there it was something in the woods" and called out; Takahiro realized that they had to move out, but when he called to Mana, she crouched down and started trembling, almost crying; only able to blurt out apologies to Takahiro--- who asked Rose to take her along with the forest group (Gerbera & Rose).
So yeah, Mana's distrust of "humans" is perhaps stronger than Takahiro's; and while Takahiro and Mana distrust each other, they can more or less "act civil" with each other as long as no serious topic pops up (like the relying in each other).
It's hinted that just as Lily has been healing Takahiro to some extent, Rose has been doing so with Mana; Rose and Mana's one on one conversations are among the highest points in the series, they are always incredibly interesting; psychologically Mana is probably the most able memember of the cast, she always points out important things and can destruct her opponent's logic / arguments if necessary (it stopped a losing fight once); and some of that has been rubbing into Rose.
Wandering Soul
2014-08-31, 16:08
The original plan was to have Mana, Takahiro and Lily sneak into a human patrol that they bumped into, and see if they can leave Mana safely in the human settlement. Ayame decided to tag along in replacement of Gerbera, after sensing her uneasiness; and Asalina apparently can't separate from Takahiro without dying, so those 2 are forced to tag along; Ayame is travelling in a "cavity" that Lily made in her torso big enough for her.
When they were fine tuning the details of the plan after spotting the humans, the lead of the patrol (it was Silane, right?) noticed that "there it was something in the woods" and called out; Takahiro realized that they had to move out, but when he called to Mana, she crouched down and started trembling, almost crying; only able to blurt out apologies to Takahiro--- who asked Rose to take her along with the forest group (Gerbera & Rose).
So yeah, Mana's distrust of "humans" is perhaps stronger than Takahiro's; and while Takahiro and Mana distrust each other, they can more or less "act civil" with each other as long as no serious topic pops up (like the relying in each other).
It's hinted that just as Lily has been healing Takahiro to some extent, Rose has been doing so with Mana; Rose and Mana's one on one conversation are among the highest points in the series, they are always incredibly interesting; psychologically Mana is probably the most able memember of the cast, she always points out important things and can destruct her opponent's logic / arguments if necessary (it stopped a fight once); and some of that has been rubbing into Rose.
After what Mana went through I'm not surprised that she has those trust issues but it's good that she can at least talk civilly with Takahiro and she's getting help from Rose.
Whoa, amazing....
It's wonderul how the series hinted that there is the presence of a "maoh like" villain being that humany has to battle, to later disprove that and show us again how the only evil of the world, is the one in the heart of men.
BTW is the current antagonist one of the transported earthlings, or some natives do have Abilities (cheats) as well ? And were there other students like MC unlocked their not-so-obvious cheat abilities after the Fall of Colony mess ?
the enemy has some version of monster control ability, though different one from what MC uses, may be temporary mass control without familiar bonds
[SPOILER=]After what Mana went through I'm not surprised that she has those trust issues but it's good that she can at least talk civilly with Takahiro and she's getting help from Rose.
Well, to begin with, since the poor girl is completely dependent from him in the monsterland, she doesn't really have option to afford herself to be bitchy.
amatsunagi
2014-09-01, 14:21
@kioras:
and added more content to reach the quota of the book~
@Trikr:
The antagonist name (for now) is Juumonji Tatsuya, a member of exploration group. He is targeting the other cheat students, get stronger so that he may attain the ability that can return him back to Earth. Sakaue Kouta works along with him (he is a bit reluctant), who has the ability to "lure monster to him". He doesn't directly control the monster, but let the other monster, "with intelligence" to do it. and by the way, Elf Ghoul or maybe Elf Lich? now that's new to me...
Okashira
2014-09-01, 15:27
The antagonist name (for now) is Juumonji Tatsuya, a member of exploration group. He is targeting the other cheat students, get stronger so that he may attain the ability that can return him back to Earth. Sakaue Kouta works along with him (he is a bit reluctant), who has the ability to "lure monster to him". He doesn't directly control the monster, but let the other monster, "with intelligence" to do it. and by the way, Elf Ghoul or maybe Elf Lich? now that's new to me...
Speaking off, I'm kinda interesting on some bits....
Didn't Takahiro suspected that there is at least a 3rd malicious evil party? Someone with a communication ability who set the fundations to the plan from long before Sakaue got to the fort? It's been only 3 days after his arrival; it's kinda far fetched to think the plan was designed in that time.
I'm already looking forward to zombie Elf moe; I wonder if they can do something about her skin, after all she already has "rotten zombish traits" (though that's even better from my perspective :heh:)..... Speaking of, since her original name doesn't have anything to do with flowers, I wonder if we are going to bump into a development where she loses the memories of her life, and is in need of a new identity / self; after all if she merely regains what she lost, she'll have "too little trauma" to properly fit with the group.
I really, really hope that she gets tamed, while failing here would be an interesting "emotional weight" to be added to Takahiro's party, since Silan's presence is strong I want her to get into the group, specially since she has "grand-mother but call me onee-san" aura; let alone skills and proficiences no other named character has, so far.
thatoneguy
2014-09-01, 16:59
hey this looks like a really good novel and i am going to read it later today or tomorrow but can someone give me an idea on how fast the translations are
Finally caught up with te latest chapter. Definitely an interesting read...updates kinda' random though huh?
I'm already looking forward to zombie Elf moe; I wonder if they can do something about her skin, after all she already has "rotten zombish traits" (though that's even better from my perspective :heh:)..... Speaking of, since her original name doesn't have anything to do with flowers.
Looking forward to that as well. I always did like her from her introduction. Her presence and overall personality really helped in fixing his trust issues as well. Oh, but wait...
Rotten zombish traits? Didn't she regenerate all of those back to normal as well since it seems to be one of her new undead monster powers?
If successful, will she be an Undead Elven Sword Mage I guess? Maybe she'll keep her spirit contract limit break too. Still, at the very least he can bring her back to sanity (Although being undead will bring certain troublesome issues in the future huh).
Flower name huh...what flowers are related to Elves, ghouls, or death & rebirth?
dragon1412
2014-09-02, 07:49
Finally caught up with te latest chapter. Definitely an interesting read...updates kinda' random though huh?
Looking forward to that as well. I always did like her from her introduction. Her presence and overall personality really helped in fixing his trust issues as well. Oh, but wait...
Rotten zombish traits? Didn't she regenerate all of those back to normal as well since it seems to be one of her new undead monster powers?
If successful, will she be an Undead Elven Sword Mage I guess? Maybe she'll keep her spirit contract limit break too. Still, at the very least he can bring her back to sanity (Although being undead will bring certain troublesome issues in the future huh).
Flower name huh...what flowers are related to Elves, ghouls, or death & rebirth?
marigold, acacia, chrysanthemums and to a certain extent, cypress, lily as well as rose ... I'm personally have more favor on Acacia since it represent both life and death.
nacer666
2014-09-02, 11:16
Isn't silane the little girl's aunt?
Okashira
2014-09-02, 12:37
Mikihiko : A guy looking extremely tired in the morning, with a girl in the same room.... Cou- Could this be that legendary "Last night was wonderful" (<- female voice) moment!?
Takahiro : I'm weak on cold mornings, you should know of this already.
Mikihiko : Ah. Certainly. Tahahaha. My bad.... But, Takahiro coming up with that non-chalant refutal; doesn't that mean that I hit the mark, Mizushima-san?
Mizushima : E? Ah, Hn.----- What should I say now? Fufu.
Mikihiko : SUS ・ PI ・ CIO ・ US!? She is happy I asked!
Obviously there it was some tentacle rape going on, during the previous night :heh: I didn't added some bits about Miki raging about not having such experience with who he likes, and I'm a little bit unsure about the last line.
Silan / Silane (still not sure on how to type this :heh:) Is Kei / Kay's grandmother, I think? The little loli elf just calls her nee-sama, Takahiro's party killed her older brother group after they turned into ghouls, and Silan mentioned something in the lines of "it's a knight's disgrace to live off as a undead, and turn against your comrades".
Finally caught up with te latest chapter. Definitely an interesting read...updates kinda' random though huh?
I'm pretty sure he writes on a "xx pages per day" schedule; if it's "time to update" and he has enough for two chapters he throws 2, and if it's "time to update" and he has less pages than what he wants for that chapter, he delays the "time to update"..... At least that the impression I got so far.
.... Basically I got the feeling that if he delays something a lot, we'll be compensated by lenght and lots of interesting stuff inside.
amatsunagi
2014-09-02, 14:31
The plan may already stand since the time the colony is still around. worse, the destruction of the colony is part of the plan, and some people ride on it just to reap it's benefit like Juumonji here.
Silane is too old to be aunt (even if she is, and an elf on top of that) thus nee-sama is more appropriate.
The update is weekly unless the author is delayed by RL works, around Sunday or Monday . The time switch to the next day if it's delayed, so it might be Tuesday for 3 weeks and if delayed again, turn into wednesday. The publication also (may) increase the motivation, notice that Shinka no Mi is getting updated recently due to green light, and the same thing can happen to this one.
^^ Thanks for the update info & scene translation, that was fun.
I think she is Kay's aunt of great aunt or something (well, they talk & act more like sisters anyway). They were related to one those ghouls? He did ask if they knew them & I thought it was only as fellow soldiers. Not sure but from what I can make out it seemed Kay's parents were one of the casualties of their frontier village? (or is it all the inaccurate info's in my head just merging messily)
Oh, If all goes well, Rose will probably become a life size Rozen Maiden eh? But you know, with an axe instead of frilly clothing.
Kaito Yamakage
2014-09-02, 20:08
This series....is hard to rate...
The story is good, though I hate how often they just break off in 2-5 chapter discussions in the middle of emergency situations. The monologue circles back and forth and stretches on forever. At some point I just started speed reading through the 6-7 paragraph blocks between each line of dialogue and I'm pretty sure I caught all the important detail.
It's not like those blocks of text were particularly detail heavy or story important, they were literally just "should I go left, or was right better, no maybe left is the best, but then in common psychology right is said to be the best?, maybe I should flip a coin?" Then if you were to write 8 paragraphs based on those thoughts that's kind of what I felt like I was reading at times.
Still the rest of it was good enough to put up with that... just a bit of a headache at times, but otherwise up to current good story.
Shilan about to become a member of his family. Juumonji is about to die, Sakagami is a pawn, fear dat Big Berta. They did mention the Queen rank monsters above High ones a while back.
Somehow I don't really feel satisfied though... both of those two ^ better die within the next few chapters.
Okashira
2014-09-02, 21:57
They were related to one those ghouls? He did ask if they knew them & I thought it was only as fellow soldiers.
Hmmm.... For what I remember, Silane was pretty surprised when she saw the rings, then she mentioned that even if it was the rings only; it was fine, because there is people behind that as long as they don't know for sure, are waiting for news. During the funeral Takahiro mentioned that she was a little bit too emotinally invested in the funeral, and eventually she looked grim and started speaking about her older brother.... this is a funeral, right? Didn't she even properly mention that now it's only Kei and herself now, or did she not? So I just assumed the worse and read into by adding 1 + 1.... I Might be wrong, since I'm taking implied events as granted?
The story is good, though I hate how often they just break off in 2-5 chapter discussions in the middle of emergency situations. The monologue circles back and forth and stretches on forever. At some point I just started speed reading through the 6-7 paragraph blocks between each line of dialogue and I'm pretty sure I caught all the important detail.
One thing about this series is that "nothing happens". There is so far no "greater objective to fulfill"; Takahiro has taken like close to 30 chapters to see if the fort is decent enough to drop Mana there, and when it comes to battles hasn't most of the characters fought only once on what, 3 or 4 books worth of content?
Having "nothing going on" is irrelevant, and perhaps it helps as it's all about the character portrayal and interactions and their worries; which sometimes gives us some pretty fun conversations or build a pretty good ambiance..... Like, when Takahiro arrived to the fort, the reader could literally touch Takahiro's distrust and doubts--"You better get out of there NOW", I kept thinking; which was compelling at the time.
But of course, there is what you mentioned, since the character perspective is given too much weight; there are times where urgence is more than needed, but instead we get rougly 5 pages of characters presenting their stand on the obvious (Rose can somehow made this not look so bad, but even then this isn't good)..... I wonder if they are going to change some places where this is too bad that in the final book version? I mean, there is an editor advice there.
I get this feeling that a big chunk of the charm of the series is going to decay once Takahiro gains a proper "greater objective" and starts chasing after it, btw.
Reading using MT..
Google...
Kato mana
Honyaku....
Kato shinsai
Online-translator.com...
Kato fish to eat
Need to learn Japanese...
Using 3MT to read...comparing 3 Translation result...
techblade
2014-09-03, 18:33
Seems translation of chapter 7 have been released a bit ago. Wish these chapters were longer but the story is interesting nevertheless.
darkofficer
2014-09-03, 18:37
i don't know why but it seems like if the mc can't tame it he won't trust it
techblade
2014-09-03, 18:42
Wonder when the MC will finally leave the damn forest.
casgoldsmith
2014-09-03, 19:28
sex with a slime? Well, this is exciting
Kaito Yamakage
2014-09-03, 19:37
Wonder when the MC will finally leave the damn forest.
Probably never, the countries of that world surround the forest, and the purpose of heroes there is to try and reach/clean out the origin of the monsters in the inner parts of the forest. (which the strongest hero in history died fighting in the inner parts)
There's basically nothing for them outside of the forest except humans that hate monsters.
Also, the place where they appeared in the world was on the border of the outer edge of the forest and the middle section, basically they were right in the "easy" monster zone between the place where humans live and the "medium-hard" monsters are.
So that dragon at the begining was an easy one...
techblade
2014-09-04, 00:10
Well damn at least this story has the MC getting to have sex with a girl and not a tease like most stories even if she is a slime...no need for lube!
and the purpose of heroes there is to try and reach/clean out the origin of the monsters in the inner parts of the forest. (which the strongest hero in history died fighting in the inner parts)
What's their motivation for having that suicidal purpose ? Got accustomed to the role of heroes of Humanity ? And BTW what problems do human kingdoms have with the forest ? Just cannot agree with existence of monsters, or does forest spread and threaten to human lands, or even most of the territories of that world are monster-plagued forest with pieces of human lands struggling for survival ?
^I think all their information about the forest is from their old legends and may not be super accurate (aside from a certain legendary creature, which was spot on). I don't remember any info about the monsters source, reasons for rampage or anything...so far. (Or again, I'm simply not remembering it or my mind skipped what little info there is)
One fact about this I find amusing is that the MC really is mister average nobody. Unlike a lot of the otherworld summoning or reincarnation stories, he really was just a normal non-otaku, guy with no hidden talents, defining hobbies or a special quirk or skill whatsoever that might give him an edge (just in the beginning of course, gotta' have a story). The situation also didn't present any advantage at all so far from being a otherworlder with modern knowledge (Hah! Take that 'useful' modern education! ...oh wait...).
Archmagination2002
2014-09-04, 06:18
The file for chapter 7 isn't actually linked in the Re: Translations page for Master of Monsters.
kazenoade
2014-09-04, 06:21
^ here link for ch7
http://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0GaFaWmQnANeXJPcmNfYU1zNkU&usp=sha ring
Kaito Yamakage
2014-09-04, 07:25
What's their motivation for having that suicidal purpose ? Got accustomed to the role of heroes of Humanity ? And BTW what problems do human kingdoms have with the forest ? Just cannot agree with existence of monsters, or does forest spread and threaten to human lands, or even most of the territories of that world are monster-plagued forest with pieces of human lands struggling for survival ?
As El said most of that isn't completely clear yet.
Basically, the origin of heroes is that, XXXX years ago humanity was on the brink of destruction and the monsters ruled, the heroes came in groups of 1-5 every 100~ years and that allowed humans to push back the monsters into the forest and build kingdoms.
Now, those kingdoms all have their boundaries and each of them builds castles and villages bordering outer edge of the forest where all the monsters are left. The smaller villages are basically used as sacrifice buffers to take hits from the monsters and prevent them from reaching the rest of human territory. (these kingdoms are hinted to be around all the edges of the forest N, S, E, W probably not in a full circle but basically hinting that the forest is huge and central to the primary threat of monsters)
The heroes are basically seen as Gods and worshiped with zeal for that reason and they're desired to help clear the monsters for more space for the humans.
The origin of monsters isn't known, but the closer you get to the center of the forest the stronger the monsters get with 3 layers being mentioned, the outer edge, middle zone, and inner forest (where everyone basically certainly dies if they go). Gabera is basically the standard for inner forest.
Monsters don't have an ego, so they pretty much kill indiscriminately unless being ordered by an outside force/ability/some higher monster. The only things mentioned so far as to motives for the monsters are their similarities to elves spirits and how the ability of the MC gives them ego awakening them to the world.
The humans reason for killing monsters is just because their history is bent around fearing and the need to kill them to survive, though they currently seem to have the advantage thanks to the heroes.
The heroes don't really have a specific reason to fight for the humans that's been shown yet, which is why the MC and some others are pretty annoyed over this crappy setup and think it's a joke that some of the other students are taking it seriously pretending to be heroes. Other than that not much has been mentioned.
The heroes are basically seen as Gods and worshiped with zeal for that reason and they're desired to help clear the monsters for more space for the humans.
But this time only about 30% of students have cheat abilities granting them high combat capabilities. I wonder how other powerless 70% are being treated by locals.
Looks like if the last chapter situation turns out good with bad guy being done for, another dilemma may be created
either to let Lily consume the corpse of villain. From one side he looks like complete scumbag. But not just it may grant Lily some great combat capabilities, also considering Takahiro's suspicion about more cheat ability users participating in the conspiracy, access to Juumonji's memory will clear up what's really going on.
But this time only about 30% of students have cheat abilities granting them high combat capabilities. I wonder how other powerless 70% are being treated by locals.
Looks like if the last chapter situation turns out good with bad guy being done for, another dilemma may be created
either to let Lily consume the corpse of villain. From one side he looks like complete scumbag. But not just it may grant Lily some great combat capabilities, also considering Takahiro's suspicion about more cheat ability users participating in the conspiracy, access to Juumonji's memory will clear up what's really going on.
All the students have cheat abilities, it's just that only 30% discovered how to use them. If I'm not mistaken, all of them are treated equally or at least well.
Kaito Yamakage
2014-09-04, 12:20
All the students have cheat abilities, it's just that only 30% discovered how to use them. If I'm not mistaken, all of them are treated equally or at least well.
Yeah, they're trained in magic and the sword to try and awaken their abilities.
Basically, it's just a matter of training them until they figure it out, so they're all treated well by the people of that world as they're like golden eggs just waiting to hatch.
I doubt he'll ever let Lily eat another human, he's afraid it will mess with her personality and at the same time be an insult to what he did to Miho. If he does let her eat someone it would be if in the case Kato dies or someone like that.
Well I read the 7 chapters, I was originally thinking it was going to be like Cradle of monsters, but its more like Cage of Eden... with super powers? O_o.
I enjoyed it alot, just to wait patiently for the translaters now (hoping they continue the process). I think the slime is awesomesauce, and her usefulness seems amazing for a blob. I like the protagonist for his dark approach to the story, in how he commands his harem Monsters and will now kill/eat if he has to or feels it appropriate to survive.
Probably the only thing I can complain about is how he blabbed on about how thinks he defiled Miho? wtf that feels like a 180 turn around in personality. 1, He tells himself he stole her existence ? what ? she was already dead mate? You infact kept her existence alive through Lilly. Its a mimic/copy of her existence. Not like you erased her existence to nothing like she never existed. You might have an argument if that was the really case. So how is it unforgivable?. It unforgivable if you let her die while having the power to save her....... She wasn't someone he could save tho(since he wasn't there on the time of death). You have an awesome slime, utilize it. I thought eating her was a sound discussion (as it also gave her a human form to communicate). But if this whole unforgivable act was because he choose not to give her a burial? Then that's fine, but he made no mention of it as the reason. (Since burial is generally considered an important farewell ritual for the dead)
2, He hardly knew her, says he only spoke to her once or twice. So wheres this strong attachment of his coming from?, If he had a crush on her then it be more apparent
So hes already pathetically apologizing when he had decided to take his avenger path. He suppose to be over the "good morals" barrier!
On a side note, I am curious about Mana. Did she know Miho? does she know she was raped and killed? Shes not really talking but keeps observing her silently(Lilly). I want to know what shes thinking >< (I too want to know the truth if she got raped or not, but the translation didnt mention anything of it, so I can assume she got lucky in the nick of time) Being saved is better for the story tho.
On a side note, I am curious about Mana. Did she know Miho? does she know she was raped and killed? Shes not really talking but keeps observing her silently(Lilly). I want to know what shes thinking >< (I too want to know the truth if she got raped or not, but the translation didnt mention anything of it, so I can assume she got lucky in the nick of time) Being saved is better for the story tho.
Mana and Miho were left in that cabin together so that they would be safe from monsters. Since they were together you can guess that the chance of Mana being raped to be 100%. The mental damage Mana received from those experiences was huge.
Mana and Miho were left in that cabin together so that they would be safe from monsters. Since they were together you can guess that the chance of Mana being raped to be 100%. The mental damage Mana received from those experiences was huge.
Heh, I see. So shes rather suspicious/surprised with the change of personality, or already came to the conclusion Miho is dead.
But with that, I now see how shes in emotional turmoil
I strongly doubt Rose will have anything more than a knight relationship with the MC.
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This novel is really nice, some themes are heavy but stories with the protagonist rising from the very bottom are my favourite, I'm sick and tired of guys starting with omega level powers or capable of cleaving a mountain 2 after a month of decent training.
ShiroiRyu
2014-09-06, 17:15
Finally read the seven chapters !
Oh man ... Lily is pretty damn cute ... My only hope is she will have a "proper" physic boy ... Not the one from Miho !
A original appearance you say?
I don't think it is possible, she is a slime after all, at max it would be the slime form molded in a female body without human features, similar to Rose.
She could absorb more people and create a original personality and body mixing them together, the author could use this twist when she reaches higher levels and the risk of damaging her base becomes lower. The MC fears her eating many people could screw the actual Miho personality.
ShiroiRyu
2014-09-06, 17:39
She could absorb more people and create a original personality and body mixing them together,
It's what i thought actually.
Using all theses corpses to have her own "body".
But yes, if i remember, the sex part in chapter 6, she was with the lower body of a Slime.
It's what i thought actually.
Using all theses corpses to have her own "body".
But yes, if i remember, the sex part in chapter 6, she was with the lower body of a Slime.
I remember it differently... just think of it as lily change a part of her body to that of a full human miho while having sex.... she can use partial mimicking so its possible to mimic miho and have sex while using her slime body as a bed...
And if she had sex using her slime body... there wont be a scent of sex in the cabin....
Finally read the seven chapters !
Oh man ... Lily is pretty damn cute ... My only hope is she will have a "proper" physic boy ... Not the one from Miho !
Well her "true" body seems to be the only body she can bend and mold, which is the blob/slime. When she takes the form of somethings shes eaten, I suppose it could be plausible for her to mix and match, but I'd prefer it not, as really its a disruption in her forms. I do know however the slime from Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou, molds her body in the form of a girl, mincing the parts from the other girls. But its still her original slim body. Which I think is closer to what you are asking. But I personally think its interesting for Lilly to be using a dead girl. So I sorta hope it stays that way. I dont mind if she changes into other people shes eaten at random. Which I do hope she eats more girls, which I know sorta makes me sound evil saying.
The MC fears her eating many people could screw the actual Miho personality.
I was under the impression that the memories and personality was like a recording. I thought that was how it was explained. I know he didnt want her eating the rape guys because they were trash, and there recordings would be trash. But I wasnt under the impression everything molded in her own personality, that wasn't explained that way unless I got something wrong.
Miho didnt really have an attatchment to him, as he hardly knew her. So I kinda think it be interesting if she noms up a few other girls to randomly switch from time to time. Lilly's amazing in that regard. I not suggesting she eats every girl they meet on there journey. But she gains new forms, and a source of intel/weakened cheat abililies looking through memories. Thats what I think makes Lilly amazing. I kinda hoping the author explores that.
ShiroiRyu
2014-09-06, 20:01
. I do know however the slime from Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou, molds her body in the form of a girl, mincing the parts from the other girls.
It's was my reference ...
Erubetie ... :love:
In same time, i prefer our Kyubi.
I think they ha sex when she used Miho form and the day after the MC woke up on her slime body, then she cuddled him the morning after with the upper body human parts when keeping the slime sofa under him.
From what I understood Miho died with the regret of not confessing/loving to/the person she really liked, a regret so strong it passed into Lily, the guy probably wasn't MC, Lily received the info and decided the person SHE loved was the right one.
Someone can spoil me Miho cheat ability Lily should have inherited?
Okashira
2014-09-07, 04:37
Few things that have been talked about....
- Kato finds out about Lily on the very same day that she meets Takahiro :heh: (but not on the same chapter, obviously). Kato falls asleep first and then Lily switches to slimedere mode, and Kato wakes ups during their conversation; she wasn't surprised on the least and "suspected something odd" from early on.
- Lily and Takahiro don't sleep around that much (to my taste :heh: :heh:) but they do flirt a lot. A lot of the flirting is even in her slime form (I loved that), and she only switchs to human when their temperature rises too much.
Whenever they deep kiss, Takahiro muses that he isn't "drinking" human saliva but rather slime liquid :heh:, and it doesn't seem to be harmful to the health (I don't think he would stop if it was harmful, though :heh:).
New chapter is out. Looks like Takahiro succeeded with undead Silane and got better understanding of his power. Most part of the chapter takes place in some kind of spiritual world he got himself in and had to work on understanding Silane and restoring her heart and mind.
Oh? New Chapter! Yay~
New chapter is out. Looks like Takahiro succeeded with undead Silane and got better understanding of his power. Most part of the chapter takes place in some kind of spiritual world he got himself in and had to work on understanding Silane and restoring her heart and mind.
Indeed. Mucho meta-physical.
I wonder how much chanche have this novel to see a anime, I've seen worse stuff getting one but the gore and rape theme from the get go lower its chance. If it was toned down or removed in the light novel we could speculate more...
Mahesvara
2014-09-13, 16:54
I want a anime too (or manga)...
also i have questions (i can't understand machine language, sorry)
1)Can Garbera fully transform to human?
2)What kind of relationship between MC and Garbera? (I know master-familiar one)
3)Are there other party members other then Lily, Rose, Mana, Garbera? And who are they?
4)In wiki, it says Mc has magic ability other then his tamer skill, what is that?
Sorry for my Engrish
Will Lily eat other humans after eating Mizushima Miho?
amatsunagi
2014-09-13, 17:28
I want a anime too (or manga)...
also i have questions (i can't understand machine language, sorry)
1)Can Garbera fully transform to human?
2)What kind of relationship between MC and Garbera? (I know master-familiar one)
3)Are there other party members other then Lily, Rose, Mana, Garbera? And who are they?
4)In wiki, it says Mc has magic ability other then his tamer skill, what is that?
Sorry for my Engrish
1. Nope, you can cut off and take the upper-half though to make her look completely human (Which Gerbera herself suggested to Takahiro when she wants to come along with him to the fortress :heh:)
2. As of now, I guess it is close to Father and child *kichikichikichi~
3. The latest members are: Ayame (Balloon Fox) and Atalina (Parasitic Plant) and Silane (if not, I'm going to complain right to the author page)
4. I forgot if Takahiro has learn any magic yet, but he does have the potential. Takahiro received maryoku (mostly from Gerbera) from his "family" and thus can use magic.
What kind of monster is Silane?
What kind of monster is Silane?
Well, she was...
an Elven Knight, but because of certain...circumstances...she was "unlived". Due to the high magic of the area, she immediately revived as a 'special' type of Undead/Ghoul/Zombie that regenerated any damage or injury. Currently an undead elven berserker attacking anything nearby but the MC's trying to rectify that.
So its an undead elf?Cool!!
And about Lily,nobody answered,does she eat another human after Mizushima Miho?
Did the MC figure out why some monster cant be tamed by his cheat ability?
And about Lily,nobody answered,does she eat another human after Mizushima Miho?
So far, he hasn't allowed her to eat any other human corpses. He stopped her the 2nd time cuz' the rapists they killed was "unworthy" or their residual thoughts might just "taint" her. Maybe he might allow it if they're in unavoidable circumstances (like needing info or something & that fresh corpse isn't gonna' be missed).
Did the MC figure out why some monster can't be tamed by his cheat ability?
So far, it seems his Taming ability is passive & can only work on "special" monsters or has certain conditions needed (He feels or realizes at a glance when a monster is a possible new comrade). I think one of them is their magical capacity(?) or something. He already had some sound theories but nothing 100% concrete. (yeah, I can't remember much from the gibberish that I've read)
The first time he consciously used his powers is with the current mad ghoul.
GreyZone
2014-09-13, 20:47
Finally started to read this too and it starts hilariously by breaking the 4th wall:
[...]
have you read a story about getting transferred to another world?
It's unfortunate, but I have not.
However, according to a friend I'm talking with, students from modern Japan getting transferred to fantasy-like parallel worlds is a seemingly popular theme among the youth.
[...]
Finally started to read this too and it starts hilariously by breaking the 4th wall
It's more amusing if you remember than he's monologue-ing while alone & currently dying in a cave.
Mahesvara
2014-09-14, 06:13
1. Nope, you can cut off and take the upper-half though to make her look completely human (Which Gerbera herself suggested to Takahiro when she wants to come along with him to the fortress :heh:)
2. As of now, I guess it is close to Father and child *kichikichikichi~
3. The latest members are: Ayame (Balloon Fox) and Atalina (Parasitic Plant) and Silane (if not, I'm going to complain right to the author page)
4. I forgot if Takahiro has learn any magic yet, but he does have the potential. Takahiro received maryoku (mostly from Gerbera) from his "family" and thus can use magic.
Thanks amatsunagi :)
so
Do Ayame and Atalina have human bodies? And how powerful are they?
Thanks :heh:
Thanks amatsunagi :)
So
Do Ayame and Atalina have human bodies? And how powerful are they?
Thanks :heh:
Well, for those two...
So far, they're simply what they look like, a monster fox & a parasitic vine plant thing.
Ayame's senses are pretty good too considering it's a dog type, its ability to spit out fireballs also gives whoever it's assisting a powerful ranged attack.
Atalina is currently attached to MC's arm and feeds of his magic. He can use it's vines like a whip or grappling hook and It can also spit out bullet like seeds comparable to a handgun(?).
Is there a translation for chapter 8 and up?
jaydreadzz
2014-09-14, 14:23
i only noticed this Thread just now....... Wow cant believe the Slime is Kawaii :smile:
Mahesvara
2014-09-15, 10:44
This novel tempted me to restrart Japanese lessons :D
Also Re:Translations site says chapter 9-10 completed but i can't find any info about chapter 8 release date, are they anyone know something about it? (I don't intend to put pressure on translators, i am just curious)
Was explained if MC is limited to female monsters or they can even be neutral gender(like wood doll)?
Okashira
2014-09-16, 15:22
Was explained if MC is limited to female monsters or they can even be neutral gender(like wood doll)?
It was explained already, monsters are all basically "gender neutral" since apparently there are no "male / female" distinctions and reproduction is asexual.
The mc can only tame monsters that are "special", (for example, lily can cast magic, which is abnormal for a slime, or garbera who is white with high magic capacity instead of the usual black); it's hinted that the monsters that are "special" are the ones that have the ability to give birth, ergo it's normal to conclude that they are "female"; whenever the MC tames a monster his "gut feeling" tells him that it's a "girl"; he deduces that his ability probably grasps the monster's true nature.
is this harem? or does the MC mainly only like Lily.
Okashira
2014-09-16, 18:11
is this harem? or does the MC mainly only like Lily.
So far it's portrayed as a family and I hope that it doesn't change. One lover / waifu and the rest are "daughters"; from the more or less 10 girls around him so far, only 3~4 of them are mentally mature enough for "love", and from those 3~4, only 1 likes him (which is obviously the lover).
Where is the love for this serie? -__-
Mahesvara
2014-09-21, 08:42
Where is the love for this serie? -__-
Really, i too love this but i can't read either Japanese or MT. Is there an update for chapter 8?
Avrorrange
2014-09-21, 10:20
Is the zombie elf knight in the harem?Also,does she smell or rot like all zombies do?Also, is Mana still travelling with the group?
Is the zombie elf knight in the harem?Also,does she smell or rot like all zombies do?Also, is Mana still travelling with the group?
Takahiro was able to bring Silane's consciousness back in the latest chapter(31) and thus making her part of his haremfamily. Since Silane was special and had a lot of magic power, she had a one hell of broken regenerative power, thus no rotten flesh.
Yes, Mana is still with Takahiro's group.
Okashira
2014-09-21, 11:00
The reason of why there it has been little discussion about this, I figure it's because in the last 2 weeks or so, no raws and no translation has been released.
Is the zombie elf knight in the harem?Also,does she smell or rot like all zombies do?Also, is Mana still travelling with the group?
- Mana is still with the group (they separated shortly during this arc, but still count as "together"). Speaking of, Rose properly deducted that Mana can't "afford" to separate with Takahiro because she can only feel calm around the "family", even if she personally distrusts and dislikes Takahiro to some extent, she can't afford to pull away.... So yeah, the current mission of "getting a safe place for Mana to stay" is doomed to fail; since she can only be around the monster family (this actually brings an interesting prospect, as the human settlement seems to have accepted Takahiro even with all of his circumstances and taboo factor).
- About the elf zombie, the answer is "we don't know yet". Well, first; this isn't an harem (only one "girl" likes him). And second, the last chapter (31 of the second arc) ended up with Takahiro reaching her consciousness, but so far we don't know what she is going to do with her sanity back. There is also the fact that there is still antagoinst left to fight; I doubt that Silane bitting some pieces off was enough to do him in (otherwise Takahiro would be finished, since he was bitten as well? I can't recall. Zombies probably work differently in that world; killing by biting would be too simple for the climax of the arc).
About her "rotting", we haven't been explained the mechanics yet, but since she is a high grade zombie, she might be able to regenerate enough to look "normal". I mean, having a true zombie heroine would be way tooo cool :heh: there is no way that they are going to go for that, instead of sticking to her original beauty.
Kaito Yamakage
2014-09-21, 12:12
Ghoul* it's a bit different than a Zombie, if we go off the usual image as long as she eats some flesh she'll recover to "normal".
Though since she is a unique version her regeneration is likely high as well. We'll probably learn more in the next chapter.
I would say more it isn't harem "yet", Mana's feelings are pretty obscure but she has some sort of attachment to him underneath all that trauma of humans/men, Rose has budding feelings she's still learning to cope with. Gabera wanted to monopolize him from the start.
Most likely it will go the harem route with the MC accepting multiple heroines.
Some of the more interesting developments on that end will come with Lily and the way Mihos personality develops in her.
GreyZone
2014-09-21, 12:57
Does Kato stay with the MC?
- Mana is still with the group (they separated shortly during this arc, but still count as "together"). Speaking of, Rose properly deducted that Mana can't "afford" to separate with Takahiro because she can only feel calm around the "family", even if she personally distrusts and dislikes Takahiro to some extent, she can't afford to pull away.... So yeah, the current mission of "getting a safe place for Mana to stay" is doomed to fail; since she can only be around the monster family (this actually brings an interesting prospect, as the human settlement seems to have accepted Takahiro even with all of his circumstances and taboo factor).
Since I read from MT I could be wrong but, are sure that Mana feels that way about Takahiro?
What I got from reading the novel, Mana's desire is similar to Rose's. Since Rose was spending a lot of time with Mana and their wishes coincided, Rose could deduce what Mana actually desired. Rose understood that after seeing Mana ardently watching the fort where Takahiro went to.
Mana said that Rose might not understand yet what kind of feelings a girl held for the boy who saved her from those terrible experiences and that she did not intend to convey those feelings to Takahiro.
The chapter where Rose and Mana talk about their feelings concerning Takahiro is 22. If anyone who can understand japanese could check and tell us how exactly Mana feels, here`s the link Chapter 22 (http://ncode.syosetu.com/n9543bw/40/) :)
Okashira
2014-09-24, 02:56
(Very liberal, not literal, skips some parts, didn't get others, BTW -> :heh: :heh: :heh: :heh: :heh: )
Consciousness returns to my body.... It looks like in the real world, very little time as elapsed.
Silane is leaning over my shoulder, her teeth still cleaved on me; I tell Lilly that there it is nothing to worry about.
My sight returns to Silane.
Powerlessly lying on me with her face buried in my shoulder, this might be a fitting scene between lovers. Of course this isn't anything dreamy like that.
I release my shoulder from her teeth, but her arms are still around me, we are still glued to each other, her face is still buried in my shoulder.
Suddenly, sounds akin to a cat drinking milk can be heard. I can feel a chill running thought my back, is this fear, or perhaps pleasure?
The tongue of a girl throughly crawles across my skin.
No spot is left uncovered. This act somehow combines the obscenity of a harlot mature woman with the childlish innocence of a young pet. The sound of Silane's elated licking never stops.
What's actually being licked, is every drop of blood that is sapping out of my injury.
I separate from her, her once clean, serious face looks now as one covered in blood and melted by ecstasy.
That face that isn't disturbed in the least by the blood, oozes a strange sense of feminine appeal.
Her tongue traces her lips. A gesture that treats the remaining blood in her flesh as it was a precious and delicious nectar....
Silane : "Ah. Fu......."
Silane : "Fufufufu"
Silane's eyes were unfocused, but the moment her eyes meet me, it's like a switch was flipped inside her....
Hahahahahah...... So, just like Lily and Garbera, Silane can't fight her primal instincts at first :heh:
If you have your shipper glasses on, Silane's loyalty oath sounds like a deep, eternal love confession :heh:
Takahiro is the one that landed the killing blow on the agonizing Jumonji, because he didn't want Silane nor anyone in the family to have the stigma of being a monster that killed a Yuusha.
The fight continues, they still need to mop up.
Whooo~, double update! (Though the second one seemed short because of the first)
Undead Elf, Silane GET-!
Avrorrange
2014-09-24, 05:58
Whooo~, double update! (Though the second one seemed short because of the first)
Undead Elf, Silane GET-!
So she likes the MC more than just as a family member?
Okashira
2014-09-24, 17:23
So she likes the MC more than just as a family member?
So far, we don't really know, I would like to know more about her inner perspective; specially I would like to know her last thoughts, I would really like side chapters about her.
So far, what we know about her....
- Takahiro went through great lenghts to make Silane "not see him as a hero", but rather, just an individual. It's hinted that trust between them flourished more thanks to that.
- Silane has been powerless in front of many tragedies, rather than seeing the tragedies in front of her eyes, she was never at the right place at the right time. Currently has only one living relative and her hometown was destroyed.
- Small bits : * She has a small secret that Takahiro knows. * Takahiro taught her some things that she thought as impossible before (like, that "heroes" are "humans" and not "perfect"). * She openly believed and defended Takahiro when he was under suspicion of consipiring against the fort.
Now, as the current chapter, her respect of Takahiro greatly increased because she perceived him as someone who made possible the impossible (For this, she relates his existence to the first legendary Yuusha that taught them hope eons ago), and she added that she is grateful about having a new chance to protect the things that she couldn't (I wonder if she died frustrated at her "failure"?).
If you have your shipper glasses, the most "suspicious" thing was, that when she truly came back to, she grabbed Takahiro's hand with sparkling eyes, said some words of gratitude, and then as she looked like she was going to add something more; she swallowed her own words and returned herself to "the expression of a knight", and proceeded to speak formally about something else.
What I think it's interesting about Silane is that she had a previous personality; I wonder how is that "going to clash" with her new found spiritual connection with Takahiro. If things would have proceeded normally, they would probably only had a firendly instructor / trainee relationship, he has already trained some under her.
Oh, and Takahiro has shown talent towards Silane's unique magic skills, the nature of that magic is actually what her "secret" is about
I'm expecting some cheap comedy like Silane tugging on Takahiro's scuff in front of everyone saying "please master, I want to drink that again" :heh:
Sudden new update today out of nowhere~
A new threat comes yonder, some sort of Doppelganger shadow queen (who apparently also knows MC and his whole entourage). Guess we now know the source of the monsters inside men.
And a certain 'fallen' student may yet still be alive? Or possible double, more questions than answers as usual.
---
Oh, and Takahiro has shown talent towards Silane's unique magic skills, the nature of that magic is actually what her "secret" is about
Huh, I don't remember that part.
I'm expecting some cheap comedy like Silane tugging on Takahiro's scuff in front of everyone saying "please master, I want to drink that again" :heh:
Hah, maybe later still. So maybe she ranked up from Undead->High Vampire now maybe?
Chapter 8 translated in re:translation.
^Oh? Nice.
Also seems like the current story arc in the Web Novel is slowly coming to a close. There were a lot developments & the possible aftermath of the last events would certainly be interesting.
Silane's & the past hero's line "A world where wishes come true" were arc words after all.
What up with Kato?Is she evil or planning something?
What up with Kato?Is she evil or planning something?
She's not evil. What Mana is doing is, purposely making Takahiro suspicious of her so that he will continue distrusting humans, thus prolonging the time she can stay with him.
I think she`s a bit strange,wasnt she raped?She doesnt act like a girl who went through a traumatic experience.
I think she`s a bit strange,wasnt she raped?She doesnt act like a girl who went through a traumatic experience.
She's only that way around Takahiro, when it comes to meeting other people, she really freaks out. Later on, Mana will explain her situation better, her trauma was so great that her mind broke, she kind of became a living corpse, a "monster". You could say that Takahiro is the last emotional suport of Mana, though Rose will help her to overcome her trauma later on.
Okashira
2014-10-10, 03:57
One of the most important aspects of Mana is how....
basically, she learned to survive by "killing herself", that "saying" makes perfect sense in japanese, however it doesn't come that clear when translated, but it means to "ignore your emotions"; eventually it will be magnificently revealed that by "killing her own impulses" Mana not only ignores her natural need of expressing her own pain, but also ignores the basic need of wanting happiness; and those two bits are hurting her.
Oh, and it's obvious that she can't control herself at all times, as mentioned that becomes pretty obvious later when they meet more people.
There it has been a zillion of important reveals and stuff and what not in the latest string of chapters; pretty much a pretty big reveal per chapter during the whole climax of the end of the second arc..... but what has been the more significant one for me? Captured monsters can be male :heh: :heh: (well, Anton can probably morph into a girl, so that gets us a whole new dimension).
.... So, where is my new update? where is my new events? why was the incident conclusion not included at the end of the actual arc that the incident was meant to be covered into? Where is my dere dere elf zombie ghoul nee-san moe Silane? ..... Erm, I mean, Yeah, waiting for more updates.
Where is my dere dere elf zombie ghoul nee-san moe Silane? ..... Erm, I mean, Yeah, waiting for more updates.
Aye, I feel ye'. But the story currently has it's serious pants on so it will only let loose after cleaning up the mess...literally & figuratively.
But yeah, I really want to see that as well. :heh:
He can make male monsters part of the family? But from what you've said seems like this Anton guy is another entity with no fixed gender, maybe he just morphed in a male but in reality is neutral like Lily at the start?
Is even true if the MC is becoming more able to use his power, maybe crossing the genre barrier is a power up?
techblade
2014-10-10, 06:56
With the background on Kato Mana being what it is makes me like her more but sadly she probably won't get any love since she is damaged goods. I don't think dirty otakus like non virgin girls.
Okashira
2014-10-10, 09:53
He can make male monsters part of the family? But from what you've said seems like this Anton guy is another entity with no fixed gender
Anton technically is male, Anton power is shape shifting, that's why I said what I said, the base form is male as hinted by the name; so that's that.
With the background on Kato Mana being what it is makes me like her more
This series is all about healing, so the fact that she is like that guarantees some spotlight rather than the opposite.
There is also the fact that Mana (& Lilly) are pretty much 100% certain to awaken an ability when the time calls for it, so that's more future spotlight.
Well that chapter explained some info I wanted to hear. I kinda rolled my eyes at this line "For Takaya, Mizushima Miho is someone that he would stake his life protecting." Obviously, he didnt. He left her to die/get raped. If you really wanted to protect someone, You'd be in reach to get to them.
And more the reason for Lilly needs to obtain more forms she can rotate between (avoiding anyone who personally knew Miho)
Well that chapter explained some info I wanted to hear. I kinda rolled my eyes at this line "For Takaya, Mizushima Miho is someone that he would stake his life protecting." Obviously, he didnt. He left her to die/get raped. If you really wanted to protect someone, You'd be in reach to get to them.
Wow, that conclusion is a bit harsh about the kid. I think you misunderstood his intentions or something.
From what little we know of him, he did quite admirably. He was, to some extent, able to protect & take Miho & her friend to safety despite the chaos (even noting that he realized that the cabin can't be entered by monsters).
It is implied that even if he was in the Defense group, he wasn't that powerful compared to the Expedition ones (or maybe even the ones who started the chaos), and thinking that the girls was safe, did what was needed, tried to get help (despite the fact that he might not be that powerful enough to catch up fast).
He prioritized his childhood friend (or it was really the only thing he could do at the time) & when she was at least safe, he did what he thought was right at the time & try to get reinforcements as quickly as possible. He did what he can...
But alas, it ended in tragedy. Maybe it was the lack of foresight, maybe he didn't really expect them to be found so easily or didn't expect or want to believe that the remaining people have actually sunk that low. Maybe he didn't get to see most of the true horror or the madness that occurred in the colony. Whatever the factors were, all he did just wasn't enough & it ended as such.
laclongquan
2014-10-11, 02:04
It's the harsh bet of life that he made and he lose, that's all.
IT's clear he had two route ahead:
Find the expedition team. Going through unknown terrain filled with monster. And carrying two baggages? Impossible.
Leave them behind on a hidden hut, protected by magic, and go forward alone. This is obvious the safer bet, because the chance others find and killed them is smaller than the certain death of the first choice.
Win some, lose some~
With the background on Kato Mana being what it is makes me like her more but sadly she probably won't get any love since she is damaged goods. I don't think dirty otakus like non virgin girls.
Well, they can go *next ten paragraphs censored*
Ahem. Anyway, I hate the term "damaged goods". I make no claims of feminism, as should be evinced by my love of harem series, but come on.
darkofficer
2014-10-11, 12:24
Well, they can go *next ten paragraphs censored*
Ahem. Anyway, I hate the term "damaged goods". I make no claims of feminism, as should be evinced by my love of harem series, but come on.
we had this kind of discusion also about zest. some of my favorite characters are
''used goods ''
Well, they can go *next ten paragraphs censored*
Ahem. Anyway, I hate the term "damaged goods". I make no claims of feminism, as should be evinced by my love of harem series, but come on.
Yeah, here we are not talking about cheating, poor mana was raped, so yes she deserve find a lover what can heal her heart, either will be MC or the childhood friend.(of friend)
I agree too, only one girl is not virgin, she cannot be with MC? Jápanese tards:heh:
we had this kind of discusion also about zest. some of my favorite characters are
''used goods ''
*Descends into a screaming rampage on reflex*
Oh wait, you're not bashing. Nevermind.
And yeah, I remember that. Then we found out she was a virgin anyway, which kind of annoyed me.
laclongquan
2014-10-12, 03:08
It's a troll tactic from author.
Wow, that conclusion is a bit harsh about the kid. I think you misunderstood his intentions or something.
From what little we know of him, he did quite admirably. He was, to some extent, able to protect & take Miho & her friend to safety despite the chaos (even noting that he realized that the cabin can't be entered by monsters).
It is implied that even if he was in the Defense group, he wasn't that powerful compared to the Expedition ones (or maybe even the ones who started the chaos), and thinking that the girls was safe, did what was needed, tried to get help (despite the fact that he might not be that powerful enough to catch up fast).
He prioritized his childhood friend (or it was really the only thing he could do at the time) & when she was at least safe, he did what he thought was right at the time & try to get reinforcements as quickly as possible. He did what he can...
But alas, it ended in tragedy. Maybe it was the lack of foresight, maybe he didn't really expect them to be found so easily or didn't expect or want to believe that the remaining people have actually sunk that low. Maybe he didn't get to see most of the true horror or the madness that occurred in the colony. Whatever the factors were, all he did just wasn't enough & it ended as such.
You might say I am harsh, but I believe he did make a grave error on judgment. He was too naive. He thinks a stone that keeps monsters away was going to keep the girl "supposely" he loves safe ? Did he not just witness the Coup that just happened. A stone wont keep rogue cheat users way. While taking them with him could of been dangerous, leaving them alone without any help is just as bad. He betted on finding the Expedition team even tho the risk was high. They have no idea where the expedition team is, at best they would know the direction they left in. Yet he took that gamble and started a search for them anyway? alone ? Theres no certainty that he can find them quickly, if at all. In the end, his high risk bet lost. Mana is "suspected" of being raped. Miho died, even if "suspected" by Takaya she committed suicide on her own, while getting raped. He should of played it safe, and stayed within there reach.
This is all under the assumption he loved Miho, so he should been there to protect his girl even if he died trying. This is the result of his failure. The harsh reality. But honestly, I wouldn't be that suprised if its revealed, he got scared and ran way in fear.
Okashira
2014-10-12, 12:46
This is all under the assumption he loved Miho, so he should been there to protect his girl even if he died trying. This is the result of his failure. The harsh reality. But honestly, I wouldn't be that suprised if its revealed, he got scared and ran way in fear.
Anyway, there are details that are explained, but left un-shown; for example it's hinted that the three of them spent some time in the cabin without anything happening, probably a week or 2, maybe even 3; so it's not like he made a wild bet without knowing absolutely anything (he might have gotten a false feeling of safety, it's not like he discarded Mio on day one).
So, basically, his choice was to just wait indefinitely; which seems pretty bleak as they have nothing; or to gather the expedition group and try to bring things to normal as soon as possible. Any option was a bet, and the way the story is written, any bet that he might have placed on would have ended horribly, so that's that.
And yeah, I'm waiting for Takaya / Kouya or whatever is spelled to show up.
The harsh reality. But honestly, I wouldn't be that surprised if its revealed, he got scared and ran way in fear.
And yeah, I'm waiting for Takaya / Kouya or whatever is spelled to show up.
Aye. That is indeed a possibility. For now I guess we wait to see him & maybe find out more details from his point of view.
Also want to see Silane being cute as soon as possible too. Ah, that somehow reminded me of Mana & Rose's talk about the "uncanny Valley" of her work to be 'cuter'/more human as well.
He thinks a stone that keeps monsters away was going to keep the girl "supposely" he loves safe?
Problem is - rioters are stronger than him if not personally, then as group. He managed to escape with girls because they weren't personally targeted. The only chance to really protect her is to find somebody stronger. So it's either:
1. Drag them with him risking death by monster and moving much slower
2. Leave them at safe-ish location and hope he will find people who will smash rioters sooner than something will happen.
Staying with them in a hut is just waiting to die himself and everything bad happening anyway. Those rapists? They were noted as ability users. Many against one, probably in ambush = he would've died and rest would've been same.
That`s why he should have risked to take them with him.
At the time, the cabin seem a safer bet. Taking them with him is almost a guarantee death sentence. Between the 2 choice, he take the seemingly safer route. Them get found was unforeseen circumstance. Plus he's a kid. Hell, the girls probably agreed with him.
techblade
2014-10-12, 20:28
Yea 2 girls that haven't discovered their cheats are heavy baggage in a forest full of monsters.
It true that taking them together with him was dangerous,but dont you think that letting them alone in a cabin near the place where a bunch of rapist were is even more dangerous?
Amanomurakumo
2014-10-12, 20:38
It true that taking them together with him was dangerous,but dont you think that letting them alone in a cabin near the place where a bunch of rapist were is even more dangerous?
We don't actually know how close the cabin was to the original group.
The kid probably felt that no one would find the cabin since the forest is huge and dense with foliage.
If you are going to blame a fictional character for choices made for the sake of creating drama within the story, you may as well condemn the author for not writing a sugary sweet story full of rainbows and unicorns where everybody is happy and nothing bad happens.
It`s not like i`m trying to blame or criticize him on purpose.I just expressed my opinion according to the subject you were talking about, it wasnt me who started the discussion about the decision being right or not.
yuzen003
2014-10-12, 22:06
If he took them there was a 100% chance that they would encounter monsters and he was not strong enough to take on monsters and protect the helpless at the sametime. The MC encountered a monster just getting back to his cave so the encounter rate is pretty high and they have an unknown distance they would need to travel. Leaving them at the hut they had supplies and there was at least a chance that they would stay safe until he could get help.
He went with the odds that he thought would keep the girls safest, and unfortunately circumstances went against him. There are no guarantees that taking the girls would have been a better option, for all anyone knows it might have resulted in all 3 of them dying.
He's pretty much stuck in a damn if you do and damn if you don't situation.
He could of... you know.. stayed with them. As the safe bet. Well as long as he "knew" the risk he took and accepts the consequences. Then I dont really have much to add anymore. Whats done is done.
yuzen003
2014-10-13, 16:47
Hindsight is 20/20 but look at it from his prespective
1a. The rioters have the potential to be a greater threat then the monsters, they are currently not focused on this area of the forest but it could happen at anytime
1b. The only people with the ability to surpress the rioters would be with the expedition group which is an unknown and potentially long distance away
2. The girls are very vulnerable and will potentially die from a single hit from a monster or rioter
3. His ability is not strong enough to guarantee he would be able to win against the rioters or any unknown monsters he might encounter while trying to reach the expedition group (he was described as "typical")
What are his options?
Everyone stays
Everyone goes
Girls stay he goes
If everyone stays he knows it is only a matter of time until the rioters start exploring, no one went to get help from the expedition group so they're on their own. They'll be okay for a while but if/when the rioters start branching out into that part of the forest and he has to fight multiple rioters he's going to get killed anyways. We know that the hut was discovered by multiple rapists so it would likely have been a dead end.
If everyone goes, he runs the risk of a random encounter getting the girls killed. If he has to protect them it is going to divert some of his attention and increases the odds that he will get hurt and if he goes down that is a death sentence for the girls. Theoretically possible but pretty long odds, a single mistake will end up with Miho, Kato, or all of them dead.
If the girls stay and he goes it becomes question of speed. There is still the risk rioters will find the hut, but since he is going to get help there is the possibility that help will arrive before then. He left the girls in a "safe" location so if there is a monster encounter he knows he can concentrate on safety or just run without worrying about the monster re-focusing on another victim.
When he finds out what happened he might wish he stayed, but at the time he went with what seemed like the least bad option.
He could of... you know.. stayed with them. As the safe bet.
Safe bet... WHUT? It's the only option that was 100% sure dead end - it was just a matter of time before rioters would've found them and killed him. He was unable to protect girls from Rioters by himself, it's 100% sure fact. Even with equal ability there is more of them. At least if he run after Explorers there was a chance that he would find them sooner than Rioters would find the hut.
It can be argued which risk was higher for girls - monsters or rioters, but everybody staying wasn't an option.
Safe bet... WHUT? It's the only option that was 100% sure dead end - it was just a matter of time before rioters would've found them and killed him. He was unable to protect girls from Rioters by himself, it's 100% sure fact. Even with equal ability there is more of them. At least if he run after Explorers there was a chance that he would find them sooner than Rioters would find the hut.
It can be argued which risk was higher for girls - monsters or rioters, but everybody staying wasn't an option.
So chasing after an expedition squad whos where abouts is unknown is the safe bet? I wouldnt call that a plan either. Its a search and hope, like finding a needle in a haystack. The expedition squad had a huge start on them anyway. But whats done is done, the consequences have been laid out. The fact that he went alone could mean hes killed anyway. If he gets lucky and did find them and didnt die. Great! but its all too late.
Well, a factor against us is that we are "observers", we get to see the bigger picture as well as points of views from different people & just how much it ended badly in different events.
We can freely say stuff like "You should have done this", "Fool, don't do that!", "Didn't he know that yada yada yada?" as well as the "would or could have's". We have the time, calm & safe environment/atmosphere to think about all that, which wasn't the case for kids.
They did reach "safety" but what came next was once again possibly influenced by several factors like: Their mental states & how traumatized they were, just how much did they stay there together (even if they spent days or weeks there, the pressure, trauma & paranoia definitely didn't help on the thinking & planning process, even more so if the guy actually only stayed a few hours & immediately went to action), if they were even able to procure supplies to stay, etc.
So again, we really need to meet Miho's childhood friend & hear his side of the story to understand more. But even in the latest WB chapter he is yet to be introduced to the MC.
My memory is failing me but I think he did reach the expedition people & went with them I think, can't remember the destination or their plans though.
i want ask this questions
1. how many woman in his harem?
2. how many woman MC sleep with?
3.how many monster that MC conquer??
From what I read in the spoilers from this thread,there are 4 monster girls and 1 human girl:
- Lily the Slime Girl(She can assume humam form, the only one he had sex with)
- Rose the Wooden Doll Girl
- Spider Girl(Dont remeber her name,she has the upper part human,lowe part spider if i`m not mistaken?)
- Zombie Girl(Dont remember her name)
- There is also Kato, a normal human girl,the MC was exploring the forest when he found her being raped,he killed the guys and saved her.He doesnt seem insterested in her.
This is what I know from reading the thread,if i`m mistaken please correct me.
From what I read in the spoilers from this thread,there are 4 monster girls and 1 human girl:
- Lily the Slime Girl(She can assume humam form, the only one he had sex with)
- Rose the Wooden Doll Girl
- Spider Girl(Dont remeber her name,she has the upper part human,lowe part spider if i`m not mistaken?)
- Zombie Girl(Dont remember her name)
- There is also Kato, a normal human girl,the MC was exploring the forest when he found her being raped,he killed the guys and saved her.He doesnt seem insterested in her.
This is what I know from reading the thread,if i`m mistaken please correct me.
Some sort of plant girl and a boy.
Breidaluk
2014-10-14, 12:36
What's the best translator to use in this novel?
I hate resurecting a topic but I hate leaving it die in the shadow even more, someone have news about it?
Mahesvara
2014-10-25, 12:10
Yeah i like this too. Did translator dropped it?
dirtloot
2014-10-26, 07:43
An update!! And hooo boy. That Kaga guy feels mighty suspicious!!!
laclongquan
2014-10-26, 08:29
The Re Translation team is keeping this up. And chapter 9 is up
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DL6dpctSl_DME-4cnnZ8mkfCIb9nIMlu8P8JhDU-it8/edit
Lazaroth
2014-10-26, 09:24
So, what is kaga trying to do? Will kaga attack MC? Please, i'm very curious about it.
So, what is kaga trying to do? Will kaga attack MC? Please, i'm very curious about it.
Yep, he will. But will be chopped to pieces as a result :heh:
So, what is kaga trying to do? Will kaga attack MC? Please, i'm very curious about it.
yes he will attack MC.
he'll die. In a very bad way.. minced meat
Schion93
2014-10-26, 23:41
I wanna ask if someone can PM or post a summary of what happens in the latest chapters (volume 3 of raws has two chapters up now)
Okashira
2014-10-27, 01:53
So, 3rd arc , 55 & 56.
- Yuna survived ♥♥♥ ..... But, now she is looking pretty suspicions, because she gave a wrong report to the east fort.
- The capital shows a lot of interest on the expedition group, but acts as if the other students didn't even exist.
- Takahiro was branded for extermination by the expedition group; thinking that the attack on the north fort was his doing.
- The north fort roughly suffered over 90% personel losses (that's from a little over 2000 people). The survivors are mostly non combatant even.
- They are still on emergency state, because it's likely that many of the desceased humans and monsters to become zombified if left there.
- Takahiro voluntereed to dispose of the monster's remains. Preferred method? Have Lilly eat everything :heh: :heh: Yeah, so we can expect a major upgrade in performance after eating so many monster types.
- ..... What's Lilly's first and foremost and absolutely most important improvement? She is getting cuter , Takahiro can't help himself and hugs her in the spot. I'm pretty sure this is the first time he has been "on the offensive"; most of their contact has been either Lilly initiating, or Lilly setting the proper mood for him to follow.
- Silane is still busy with the fort work, she'll probably appear next chapter.
Schion93
2014-10-27, 02:21
So, 3rd arc , 55 & 56.
- Yuna survived ♥♥♥ ..... But, now she is looking pretty suspicions, because she gave a wrong report to the east fort.
- The capital shows a lot of interest on the expedition group, but acts as if the other students didn't even exist.
- Takahiro was branded for extermination by the expedition group; thinking that the attack on the north fort was his doing.
- The north fort roughly suffered over 90% personel losses (that's from a little over 2000 people). The survivors are mostly non combatant even.
- They are still on emergency state, because it's likely that many of the desceased humans and monsters to become zombified if left there.
- Takahiro voluntereed to dispose of the monster's remains. Preferred method? Have Lilly eat everything :heh: :heh: Yeah, so we can expect a major upgrade in performance after eating so many monster types.
- ..... What's Lilly's first and foremost and absolutely most important improvement? She is getting cuter , Takahiro can't help himself and hugs her in the spot. I'm pretty sure this is the first time he has been "on the offensive"; most of their contact has been either Lilly initiating, or Lilly setting the proper mood for him to follow.
- Silane is still busy with the fort work, she'll probably appear next chapter.
thanks and this is from the latest chapters?
So, 3rd arc , 55 & 56.
- Takahiro was branded for extermination by the expedition group; thinking that the attack on the north fort was his doing.
Wha, how are people aware of Takahiro's taming ability to blame him? I thought Lily is playing schoolgirl Miko, the other familiars are hiding and MC was not gonna reveal his ability.
Wha, how are people aware of Takahiro's taming ability to blame him? I thought Lily is playing schoolgirl Miko, the other familiars are hiding and MC was not gonna reveal his ability.
Since the fort he is in was attacked, he had to fight so...... you know what happens, right?
Kaito Yamakage
2014-10-27, 04:07
Two chapters suddenly came out, lol.
The generic monster controller that came out at the end of part 2 had a contact in the first expedition group that he got information from, that person has some sort of clairvoyance like ability.
Since the MC didn't team up with the other monster dude and refused the expedition group faction villain, he was also spotted by soldiers during the fortress attack controlling monsters, so the expedition group found out and has plenty of reasons to go against him.
And to add the issue with Miho's almost-boyfriend. Seems like Mrs Shit is meeting Mr Fan...
From what I've read seems like Kaga was a characther created just for making the MC affirm his positionof hating humans and don't trust anyone.
Probably he asked the MC to be alone with him for a beating so he could take the top spot in the cave, or giving some info and betraying later.
Even with all the spoilers in this topic is fun to guess what happens.
SineMora
2014-10-27, 05:55
From what I've read seems like Kaga was a characther created just for making the MC affirm his positionof hating humans and don't trust anyone.
Probably he asked the MC to be alone with him for a beating so he could take the top spot in the cave, or giving some info and betraying later.
Even with all the spoilers in this topic is fun to guess what happens.
I like this setting... screw with humanity, let's face it we're all bastards.., Two World Wars, Global Warming, Great Recession, and still not learning from either of the three... Time to go down the demon lord route...
techblade
2014-10-27, 08:18
I like this setting... screw with humanity, let's face it we're all bastards.., Two World Wars, Global Warming, Great Recession, and still not learning from either of the three... Time to go down the demon lord route...
Be total badass if he went the demon lord route. Its legitimate self defense if all of humanity attacked him first!!
The monsters that are in his family is it possible for them to undergo some time of evolution?
Lazaroth
2014-10-27, 11:10
What happen if mc found rou?
Tame rou or.......
Xellos-_^
2014-10-27, 15:24
MC can ony tame female Monsters.
so nothing on Rou other Neotore Rou with MI :D
Was it already said that it can only be females?
Rose was never a female,wooden dolls dont have a gender. She developed a female ego because of the MC`s ability.(Or at least thats what I thought)
Xellos-_^
2014-10-27, 15:34
Female only.
Rou is a male with so many resist skills he probably couldn't even detect MC cheat ability being used, instead MC would say "no good" and run like Bolt.
I've read MT of the next chapter, if I got it right Kaga is (was) a idiot who thinked with his neither regions. Seems like I was right with both my theories, exchange of info and beatdown.
And seems like we can say MC cheat work only on female monsters and monsters without a fixed gender, slime/doll and then "inject" into them a female persona, probably because a male/female love is easier to produce.
A male tamed monster was introduced some chapter ago, that should conflict with the cheat rule but seems like is shape-shifter, then maybe it was in a grey zone because it can produce female body parts, or it just forgot its original gender and was going around in a male body.
It could even be the MC power levelling up and starting to remove some limitations, after all enemies killed by his tamed mon are always exp points gained.
techblade
2014-10-27, 17:55
Rou could easily kill the MC before he knew what hit him.
One of Rou's minion could do it for him.
amatsunagi
2014-10-27, 18:05
Comparing Takahiro and Rou is just too much... (= へ=)
OK we get it Rou is too OP for this MC, but if we continue on the topic of Rou's OP'ness then you should do it on Re:Monster [Light Novel & Manga] (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=126349) OP'ness lol :heh:
Okashira
2014-10-27, 20:22
The monsters that are in his family is it possible for them to undergo some time of evolution?
Let's see.....
- Asalina & Ayame : They are new borns, I guess we can expect something once they reach adulthood.
- Gerbera : Has already over 500 years of battle experience and she is in-itself an evolution of something, so there is little room here.
- Rose : Already happened, she swapped all of her body parts and gained a completely different shape (right now she is like a cute village maiden) (Let's hope she adds a samurai sword to that :heh: ). The more she works as a crafter, the stronger the wood she can work becomes, so in theory she "doesn't have a limit".
- Mana & Miho / Lilly : They are "human", so they can awaken a cheat ability and I expect them to do so once the drama hits a strong point.
- Silane : Impossible to tell right now as we don't know her case. She previously was close to the "world's strongest" not counting summoned people; since "now" she is stronger than "then", I see very little room & need for growth.
Speaking of Rou is silly. Re:Monster is all about power levels and stuff (to the point I stopped caring about the cast detailed upgrades since they are too constant). This series is more about psychological baggage and stuff with pretty much no focus on fighting; it's a totally different genre. It's as senseless as placing an action hero in a drama play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9Ismh1elM)
Let's see.....
- Asalina & Ayame : They are new borns, I guess we can expect something once they reach adulthood.
- Gerbera : Has already over 500 years of battle experience and she is in-itself an evolution of something, so there is little room here.
- Rose : Already happened, she swapped all of her body parts and gained a completely different shape (right now she is like a cute village maiden) (Let's hope she adds a samurai sword to that :heh: ). The more she works as a crafter, the stronger the wood she can work becomes, so in theory she "doesn't have a limit".
- Mana & Miho / Lilly : They are "human", so they can awaken a cheat ability and I expect them to do so once the drama hits a strong point.
- Silane : Impossible to tell right now as we don't know her case. She previously was close to the "world's strongest" not counting summoned people; since "now" she is stronger than "then", I see very little room & need for growth.
Speaking of Rou is silly. Re:Monster is all about power levels and stuff (to the point I stopped caring about the cast detailed upgrades since they are too constant). This series is more about psychological baggage and stuff with pretty much no focus on fighting; it's a totally different genre. It's as senseless as placing an action hero in a drama play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9Ismh1elM)I only knew about Lilly, Ross, and the spiderwoman, just started reading the untranslated chapters(currently on ch11).
But now I'm going to take a short break and search my house for that movie(Last Action Hero) which I haven't seen in years.:heh:
What makes people think he can only tame female monsters? Is there something in this story that saids that ?. That be pretty lame to be honest. Make him seem like he has some pervert power. If its something like they have to have a certain amount of intelligence, then that would make sense and be logical.
Does main character gets stronger himself ? i mean he should have something extra ordinary to attract all these monsters .
What makes people think he can only tame female monsters? Is there something in this story that saids that ?. That be pretty lame to be honest. Make him seem like he has some pervert power. If its something like they have to have a certain amount of intelligence, then that would make sense and be logical.
Takahiro's power only works on monsters that can reproduce themselves, in other words, monsters with a lot of magic power.
Amanomurakumo
2014-10-28, 05:07
Let's see.....
- Asalina & Ayame : They are new borns, I guess we can expect something once they reach adulthood.
- Gerbera : Has already over 500 years of battle experience and she is in-itself an evolution of something, so there is little room here.
- Rose : Already happened, she swapped all of her body parts and gained a completely different shape (right now she is like a cute village maiden) (Let's hope she adds a samurai sword to that :heh: ). The more she works as a crafter, the stronger the wood she can work becomes, so in theory she "doesn't have a limit".
- Mana & Miho / Lilly : They are "human", so they can awaken a cheat ability and I expect them to do so once the drama hits a strong point.
- Silane : Impossible to tell right now as we don't know her case. She previously was close to the "world's strongest" not counting summoned people; since "now" she is stronger than "then", I see very little room & need for growth.
Speaking of Rou is silly. Re:Monster is all about power levels and stuff (to the point I stopped caring about the cast detailed upgrades since they are too constant). This series is more about psychological baggage and stuff with pretty much no focus on fighting; it's a totally different genre. It's as senseless as placing an action hero in a drama play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9Ismh1elM)
Hey it could work...
In The Producers they thought that "Springtime for [a certain WW2 Dictator]" would bomb and set out to use that to their advantage in a scam, but it ended up being a hit, because the lead actor portrayed his role humorously.
I'm sure putting an action hero in a drama is workable. Lots of dramas have action in them anyway.
Does main character gets stronger himself ? i mean he should have something extra ordinary to attract all these monsters .
Well, some of his "kin" has been teaching him some basic magic like body strengthening, it's also stated that he once went to a dojo as well so he also practices with a sword when he can.
In the latest chapters, he also teams up with 2 of the small ones when he has to fight, he's still gonna' need a lot of battle experience though.
Hmm, arthand...are ye' a dwarf lad?
Lazaroth
2014-10-28, 11:05
Is it Silane some kind of hero because okashira said (She previously was close to the "world's strongest")?
Okashira
2014-10-28, 12:32
Is it Silane some kind of hero because okashira said (She previously was close to the "world's strongest")?
- Elf.
- Knows lots of magic (her basic is a flame sword, I think? She also secretly uses summon spirits, which is actually shunned by "humans")
- High in the line of command in her settlement (was she the knightmaster's right hand or something?)
- Never neglects training, in fact she teaches the other soldiers as a instructor.
She seems more like one of the elite than strongest in the world.
But she was killed beacause the enemy had hostage then probably she was just so powerful.
Maybe she is a elf with centuries of fighting experience, and now some of the limits on her mortal body are gone, her stats should skyrocket.
Okashira
2014-10-28, 14:09
She seems more like one of the elite than strongest in the world.
..... Ah. Yare Yare daze.
Juumonji : "You are saying some pretty conceinted things."
Juumonji : "Or what is it, Are you insane? Or do you have some suicidal tendencies?"
Silane : "Nothing of the sort, I will surely stop you here"
(Juumonji dives into Silane with his sword, she counter attacks and injures his ear).
Juumonji : "Arhgh, How-- How dare you!!"
(Silane started overwhelming Juumonji with a serie of slashes)
Knight Grandmaster : "Please proceed, Takahiro-dono!"
Knight Grandmaster : "The time that Silane is buying, please don't let it go to waste"
Takahiro : "Bu- but to leave Silane here all alone...."
Knight Grandmaster : "There is no other alternative-- * skips * Furthermore have you never thought it was strange? How come an Elf obtained one of the key positions as a knight commander in this fort??"
(Elves are "looked down" by the church / capital since they are considered "close to monster" (the world enemy), they usually get high risk low reward type of jobs; like trying to expand habitable territory).
(Silane activates her spirit magic and starts pressing Juumonji even more).
Silane : "Juumonji Tatsuya, you too; perhaps it would be better of you not to understimate us".
Mikihiko : "Ahh, I get it, so Takahiro didn't knew about it?"
Mikihiko : "In this Charia fort, Silane is the absolute best knight".
Takahiro (monologue) : "The strongest knight belonging to a fort which is placed in the last line of defense that humanity has against the advancing menace---- That means that such strength is a perfect example of the best of the best....".
Takahiro (monologue) : "Thinking about it, when the Grandmaster organized a retrieval operation and it was necessary to dive into the sea of trees to retrieve the students---- Considering the importance that this country gives to world transition, it would be not strange for the weight of that responsibility is to fall on the world's finest".
A little bit different from how I remember it; meaing that it sounds like there is more people like that. Also, the "world's strongest" doesn't mean "stronger than the braves", which was what caused her death; since Juumonji was even bigger than a brave, being really souped out after so many cheat killings (souls = exp).
Speaking off, I think I remember being around 90 years old? I need to check, but I don't remember where it was mentioned.
Then she was strong and really skilled in battle, someone with only raw power gained by killing weaklings and stealing their strenght and not much experience in a real death fight put against someone like her was fodder.
techblade
2014-10-28, 14:28
What with all the stories lately where Elves are considered lower class beings compared to humans WTF. It used to be they were mythical beings that controlled spirits and lived in the forest with arrogance while shunning human contact.
Is exactly for that, too much cliche, new writers decided to mix things a bit.
I've noticed even in Mushoku Tensei elves are seen how close to demi-humans but because they haven't fought against humanity in the great war their treatment is a bit better.
What with all the stories lately where Elves are considered lower class beings compared to humans WTF. It used to be they were mythical beings that controlled spirits and lived in the forest with arrogance while shunning human contact.
Lol japanese writes doesnt really like elves and most of the stories they usually get raped etc... I am also annoyed by that but what can you do about it .
Then she was strong and really skilled in battle, someone with only raw power gained by killing weaklings and stealing their strenght and not much experience in a real death fight put against someone like her was fodder.
Too great difference in raw power was able to overcome skill and experience...
BTW with that quick gaining powers from murdering summoned fellows and Takahiro landing the finishing blow on the main power grinder - did he got his own strengthening cause of that?
Wasn't she defeated because her niece was toke hostage?
If I'm not wrong MC use a dryad on his arm how weapon for close combat right?
Deltoren
2014-10-28, 16:33
Let's see.....
- Asalina & Ayame : They are new borns, I guess we can expect something once they reach adulthood.
- Gerbera : Has already over 500 years of battle experience and she is in-itself an evolution of something, so there is little room here.
- Rose : Already happened, she swapped all of her body parts and gained a completely different shape (right now she is like a cute village maiden) (Let's hope she adds a samurai sword to that :heh: ). The more she works as a crafter, the stronger the wood she can work becomes, so in theory she "doesn't have a limit".
- Mana & Miho / Lilly : They are "human", so they can awaken a cheat ability and I expect them to do so once the drama hits a strong point.
- Silane : Impossible to tell right now as we don't know her case. She previously was close to the "world's strongest" not counting summoned people; since "now" she is stronger than "then", I see very little room & need for growth.
Speaking of Rou is silly. Re:Monster is all about power levels and stuff (to the point I stopped caring about the cast detailed upgrades since they are too constant). This series is more about psychological baggage and stuff with pretty much no focus on fighting; it's a totally different genre. It's as senseless as placing an action hero in a drama play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9Ismh1elM)
Silane? who is she?
EDIT: nevermind read what she is but she is dead isnt she so how is she one of his monster family girls
BTW with that quick gaining powers from murdering summoned fellows and Takahiro landing the finishing blow on the main power grinder - did he got his own strengthening cause of that?
He wasn't able to take the finishing blow cuz' "something" interfered & "kill stealed" the fool.
Wasn't she defeated because her niece was toke hostage?
If I'm not wrong MC use a dryad on his arm how weapon for close combat right?
If I remember correctly, her spirit technique is like a limit break ability that greatly strengthens her but it has a time limit so she was eventually overwhelmed when its usage limit ran out. The cheat like ability & stats of the "hero" were that great a factor.
Silane? who is she?
EDIT: nevermind read what she is but she is dead isnt she so how is she one of his monster family girls
The place's high magical atmosphere(?) can affect corpses & turn them undead + Silane's high stats turned her to a powerful undead that revived after only a short time. She went berserk but the MC somehow managed to return her to sanity.
Silane? who is she?
EDIT: nevermind read what she is but she is dead isnt she so how is she one of his monster family girls
She died but came back as an overpowered Ghoul. Takahiro used his ability to bring her consciousness back and made her part of his family.
Wasn't she defeated because her niece was toke hostage?
If I'm not wrong MC use a dryad on his arm how weapon for close combat right?
No, the reason she lost was because Juumonji was simply too strong for her.
Oh, I got it wrong then, she had a good start but then Juubitch used his cheat for...well, cheating.
NotteBoy97
2014-10-28, 20:10
Question how did the taming for the fox and plant go? :bow:
sasuke706
2014-10-28, 20:27
Question how did the taming for the fox and plant go?
What taming? The fox cub desperately followed him home after he got nearly killed and the plant loved him from the moment it started growing out of his hand. They weren't exactly difficult like Spider was. Probably doesn't help that all his monster companions are gained by being in really bad situations or being half-dead anyway, though.
As a side note, I hope the author focuses on the plot more in the upcoming chapters. I got caught up today and I found myself getting headaches and skipping chunks of the bizarrely long slice of life chapters—like Rose's feminine makeover with Mana's advice—because several things about them were really wearing on me. Basically, I didn't find them fun to read, and it's not because I have a problem with SoL in general.
Lazaroth
2014-10-28, 20:55
Whos Juumonji?
Summary please ~
sasuke706
2014-10-28, 21:33
Whos Juumonji?
Summary please ~
One of the Cheat powered students from the First Expedition, sent back with two others to gather survivors of the colony's downfall.
To describe his role in detail:
He's a "warrior" with strength, speed, and reflexes that exceed Spider's, and can use up to 4th level magic (there's only 5 levels, and he can instant cast level 2 and only takes a few seconds to cast a level 3). He's described as having a tall stature and being heroic, comes off as kind like your generic hero. The funny part is his cheat ability is described as average (although on the faster side) for the overpowered students despite him being able to take on the strongest native knight and come out with only a graze.
But he's actually an asshole. He plots to kill the other students because they essentially give good experience points (9 students (1 cheat, 8 regular) increases his magic by 10% after they die). He believes that if he can get strong enough by sacrificing students, he can go back to Earth with his cheat ability. There's no basis behind this revealed yet.
After the strongest of their three-man party goes off to look for survivors (I'm not sure how her name is supposed to be read, but she's the fastest student or something and one of the top 10 cheats), he and another cheat (who while a magician who can use fifth rank magic also has amazing physical abilities) are left behind in the fort where the protag is staying.
He uses another student who was hiding his ability to have a massive amount of monsters attack the fortress. He uses this chance to surprise kill the cheat magician he was with and 8 regular students, along with numerous knights. Silane, the strongest knight apparently, confronts him and buys time for a little bit, but is pretty one-sidedly slaughtered. He, being the genius he is, decides to bring her battered corpse to show the protag because he wanted gloat points.
He fights Spider for a bit, but starts gradually overtaking her. And during this time, Silane comes back as a zombie and bites the shit out of him. Protag forcefully adds her to his "kin" and recovers her sanity, and she joins up now with increased abilities with Spider to deal a fatal blow to Juumonji.
As the protag is about to finish him off to literally end his suffering, he gets kill stolen by a Queen Monster or something that also takes a moment to eat his corpse. Doppelgangers take his form for no real reason to talk to the protag directly after that. And that's the end of him.
And about the girl of the trio:
She, like the magician hero, seems to be legitimately kind-hearted. She's also extremely fast to the point where the protag can't keep up with her fighting whatsoever.
As of the latest chapters, she's pursuing the protag because she falsely suspects he was part of the fortress's downfall. Unless his kin get stronger, I'm pretty sure she can easily outclass them in a fight.
As a side note, I think it'd be interesting if the protag ends up killing her. I only think this because protagonists in general (this story included) only have habits of hitting or killing men and just want a change of pace. Odds are if she does somehow die, it won't be by the protag's hand though.
Another random fun fact I like:
Apparently about half the expedition force's students split off to go do their own thing. The expedition leader doesn't consider it defecting since he believes they're free to go whenever they want.
I like how the author's planning ahead for more random cheat encounters.
Then again, they never said how many confirmed kills there was in the colony's fall. As far as I recall, none of the cast wanted to go back to check to see if the colony really was entirely destroyed or not.
Takahiro's power only works on monsters that can reproduce themselves, in other words, monsters with a lot of magic power.
Ah nice. Good its something decent.
SineMora
2014-10-28, 23:46
One of the Cheat powered students from the First Expedition, sent back with two others to gather survivors of the colony's downfall.
To describe his role in detail:
He's a "warrior" with strength, speed, and reflexes that exceed Spider's, and can use up to 4th level magic (there's only 5 levels, and he can instant cast level 2 and only takes a few seconds to cast a level 3). He's described as having a tall stature and being heroic, comes off as kind like your generic hero. The funny part is his cheat ability is described as average (although on the faster side) for the overpowered students despite him being able to take on the strongest native knight and come out with only a graze.
But he's actually an asshole. He plots to kill the other students because they essentially give good experience points (9 students (1 cheat, 8 regular) increases his magic by 10% after they die). He believes that if he can get strong enough by sacrificing students, he can go back to Earth with his cheat ability. There's no basis behind this revealed yet.
After the strongest of their three-man party goes off to look for survivors (I'm not sure how her name is supposed to be read, but she's the fastest student or something and one of the top 10 cheats), he and another cheat (who while a magician who can use fifth rank magic also has amazing physical abilities) are left behind in the fort where the protag is staying.
He uses another student who was hiding his ability to have a massive amount of monsters attack the fortress. He uses this chance to surprise kill the cheat magician he was with and 8 regular students, along with numerous knights. Silane, the strongest knight apparently, confronts him and buys time for a little bit, but is pretty one-sidedly slaughtered. He, being the genius he is, decides to bring her battered corpse to show the protag because he wanted gloat points.
He fights Spider for a bit, but starts gradually overtaking her. And during this time, Silane comes back as a zombie and bites the shit out of him. Protag forcefully adds her to his "kin" and recovers her sanity, and she joins up now with increased abilities with Spider to deal a fatal blow to Juumonji.
As the protag is about to finish him off to literally end his suffering, he gets kill stolen by a Queen Monster or something that also takes a moment to eat his corpse. Doppelgangers take his form for no real reason to talk to the protag directly after that. And that's the end of him.
And about the girl of the trio:
She, like the magician hero, seems to be legitimately kind-hearted. She's also extremely fast to the point where the protag can't keep up with her fighting whatsoever.
As of the latest chapters, she's pursuing the protag because she falsely suspects he was part of the fortress's downfall. Unless his kin get stronger, I'm pretty sure she can easily outclass them in a fight.
As a side note, I think it'd be interesting if the protag ends up killing her. I only think this because protagonists in general (this story included) only have habits of hitting or killing men and just want a change of pace. Odds are if she does somehow die, it won't be by the protag's hand though.
Another random fun fact I like:
Apparently about half the expedition force's students split off to go do their own thing. The expedition leader doesn't consider it defecting since he believes they're free to go whenever they want.
I like how the author's planning ahead for more random cheat encounters.
Then again, they never said how many confirmed kills there was in the colony's fall. As far as I recall, none of the cast wanted to go back to check to see if the colony really was entirely destroyed or not.
Once again proves Humans are Bastards...
Doing a anime for this novel will not be easy, the animation studio will have to tone down sex and gore, some things seems even strange in the plot...
Sure, they can just transmit a late night and put all the blood they want (yosuga no Sora, Madoka Magika).
Once again proves Humans are Bastards...
Not all of them. The magician also prove buman are kind.
Was re-reading chapter 8 to move onto chapter 9 and I seen this in chapter 8
I do not have the right to do as I would like with the memories of the deceased.
I simply feel indebted to Mizushima Miho. A long as there’s no imminent risk to me, I plan to not touch her “Memories” aside from her “Knowledge”
This is whats starting to piss me off about this guy. Mihos dead, shes not coming back. I was under the impression that this is survival and he would do whatever it takes under reasonable means to survive, such as using Lilies ability to gather a source of intel from the dead. Since when was he indebted to Miho ? Did I miss a chapter ? Was he in love with her? Far as I read, he hardly knew her.
I dont want to start hating this series because the main character starts becoming a retard :/. Isnt he suppose to be already pissed off how humans betrayed him? or so didnt give a dam about him. I'd be fine if he simply forgot about asking Lily to relay any useful intel from Miho over the last few days/weeks, but whats this not asking on purpose because hes indebted?.
I am sorta confused where the author is taking this character. At one point it looked like he was going to become a badass and serious about surviving, But hes tune is constantly changing :/
I still think this story has some good interesting potential, I just hope the author really doesn't botch it :/
Didn't Lily personality start to resemble Miho or something?
If so, it make sense he didn't want bad personality to interfere with her mind.
Althalus57
2014-11-06, 15:04
Hi guys,
I fiished to read the tranlated chapters a few days ago and would like to thank the translators and people thathelped them.
Moreover, after reading this thread I have a question: if the zombie is a member of the MC's family, does it mean that she can reproduce (necrophilia is not really what I like ^^) ?
Thank you in advance for your answers.
I think contagious bite count.
Amanomurakumo
2014-11-06, 16:36
Was re-reading chapter 8 to move onto chapter 9 and I seen this in chapter 8
This is whats starting to piss me off about this guy. Mihos dead, shes not coming back. I was under the impression that this is survival and he would do whatever it takes under reasonable means to survive, such as using Lilies ability to gather a source of intel from the dead. Since when was he indebted to Miho ? Did I miss a chapter ? Was he in love with her? Far as I read, he hardly knew her.
I dont want to start hating this series because the main character starts becoming a retard :/. Isnt he suppose to be already pissed off how humans betrayed him? or so didnt give a dam about him. I'd be fine if he simply forgot about asking Lily to relay any useful intel from Miho over the last few days/weeks, but whats this not asking on purpose because hes indebted?.
I am sorta confused where the author is taking this character. At one point it looked like he was going to become a badass and serious about surviving, But hes tune is constantly changing :/
I still think this story has some good interesting potential, I just hope the author really doesn't botch it :/
He does make use of Miho's memories, her knowledge.
But since Miho's personality has been inherited by Lily, he wants to keep Lily the way she is, and not screw her up by mixing in the personalities of psychotic assholes. And while he may not care about other humans, he at least doesn't want to hurt Lily as she is important to him, and recalling Miho's last memories would be traumatic, as Lily is in effect, Miho reincarnated, even if only in personality.
Yeah, for someone who understood humans are trash on his own skin is a bit strange how he still mingles with them , it would make more sense if he becomes a hermit with the family or something like that.
I have to say I really like the take this story did with the setting. Instead of fantasy and stuff like MMOs, it went really good in the path of survival horror. You can get to feel how fragile people are and their minds (even the MC, for example).
Okashira
2014-11-10, 12:32
Eye-patch elven zombie moe♥♥♥♥ (aka, 57 is out).
(Browsed quickly since I'm supposed to be working) Currently Silane :
- Can still use her spirit magic.
- Due to being undead, Silane lost her ability to use curative magic (was a "3rd level", the highest level a human can get by training).
- Can still act as a deputy knight.
- Her death is kept a secret for everyone other than the knights that saw her raging as a zombie.
- Needs to hide her "proof of knighthood" (knights are given a.... was it a ring? that has a magic stone; this stone changes color blue = human, yellow = zombie, red = "inhuman", Silane's stone is red).
- Silane is the second case of an undead regaining it's human senses, the first one was an arch litch that supposedly terrorized humanity long ago (it's considered a fable now, I suspect him to be deep in the forest). That's why Takahiro considers Silane more of a "demi-litch" rather than a zombie / ghoul.
+ Oh, Rose is developing an interest in magic stones (that's the new route her crafting is going to take? Incorporating magical properties?).
+ Humanity has decided to give up on he Charia fort, reconstruction work would take years and way too many personal, right now they can only make sure it doesn't become infested by the undead by properly handling the corpses, and then leave.
+ Takahiro was invited to the Grandmaster's home country. So, she was a princess all along? I can't remember when it was mentioned.
Amanomurakumo
2014-11-10, 12:38
Eye-patch elven zombie moe♥♥♥♥ (aka, 57 is out).
(Browsed quickly since I'm supposed to be working) Currently Silane :
- Can still use her spirit magic.
- Due to being undead, lost her ability to use curative magic (was a "3rd level", the highest level a human can get by training).
- Can't still act as a deputy knight.
- Her death is kept a secret for everyone other than the knights that saw her raging as a zombie.
- Needs to hide her "proof of knighthood" (knights are given a.... was it a ring? that has a magic stone; this tone changes color blue = human, yellow = zombie, red = "inhuman", Silane's stone is red).
- Silane is the second case of an undead regaining it's human senses, the first one was an arch litch that supposedly terrorized humanity long ago (it's considered a fable now, I suspect him to be deep in the forest). That's why Takahiro considers Silane more of a "demi-litch" rather than a zombie / ghoul.
+ Oh, Rose is developing an interest in magic stones (that's the new route her crafting is going to take? Incorporating magical properties?).
+ Humanity has decided to give up on he Charia fort, reconstruction work would take years and way too many personal, right now they can only make sure it doesn't become infested by the undead by properly handling the corpses, and then leave.
+ Takahiro was invited to the Grandmaster's home country. So, she was a princess all along? I can't remember when it was mentioned.
a demi-lich is supposed to be an ancient lich that throws away it's physical form, only occasionally possessing it's skull to defend it's resting place as a floating skull, otherwise traversing dimensions in spirit form. And they are more powerful than a regular lich. (At least that's the D&D version)
Eye-patch elven zombie moe♥♥♥♥ (aka, 57 is out).
I think the eyepatch was to give Silane the illusion/impression of injury since it was a big mess. 'Tis a shame that she lost her healing magic though (cuz' of dark alignment? Maybe she gained some new black magic?).
I think the Grandmaster is said to be a princess of a small country Silane (or Elves in general?) is affiliated with. If he affiliates with them, he could potentially bring trouble to them as well.
No mention of Mana so far. Still hiding in a room or the cave?
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Oh, also good to hear TensaiTranslations is planning to work on this.
Amanomurakumo
2014-11-10, 18:58
I think the eyepatch was to give Silane the illusion/impression of injury since it was a big mess. 'Tis a shame that she lost her healing magic though (cuz' of dark alignment? Maybe she gained some new black magic?).
I think the Grandmaster is said to be a princess of a small country Silane (or Elves in general?) is affiliated with. If he affiliates with them, he could potentially bring trouble to them as well.
No mention of Mana so far. Still hiding in a room or the cave?
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Oh, also good to hear TensaiTranslations is planning to work on this.
Mana is being used to cast a spell.:heh:
techblade
2014-11-10, 19:21
Guess its too much of a task to get a fast translator to pick this up.
NotteBoy97
2014-11-11, 19:21
New chapter on Retranlation
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