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relentlessflame
2014-11-01, 03:22
The purpose of this thread is to discuss your speculation and theories on the future direction of the plot of the High School DxD Light Novel after Volume 18. So, to participate in this thread, you are expected to already be familiar with Volume 18 and everything before it, so there is no need for spoiler tags. However, please do not post actual teasers/spoilers about future content in this thread; this should only be for your own speculation and theories, not spoilers.

Once the next set of content is released, please discuss what happens in the appropriate thread for that content. A new thread can be created for speculation on what happens after that. You can, however, post again in this thread if you want to report in on what aspects of your speculation came true (and perhaps where you went horribly wrong!).

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If you want to discuss a related topic, please feel free to request another thread be created about that topic.

Gary29
2014-11-01, 12:18
Speculation after volume 18? Alright, let's kick off this thread with some volume 19 speculation then!

What sort of power-up do you think Xenovia will gain if she gets Ex-Durandal stolen from her? Obviously she can't fight until she gets another weapon or gets it back.

On another topic, once Miyama-Zero is back to her usual self, what would you like to see illustrations of?

-Ise's True-Queen and Vali's Empireo Juggernaut Overdrive (color)
-Crom Cruach (color)
-Some of the other legendary Evil Dragons, like Apophis or Azi Dahaka (or Nhǫggr if/when it appears)
-Dulio using his Longinus, Zenith Tempest (color)
-Diehauser Belial vs Raiser (color)
(I would have liked a color illustration of Yaegaki Masaomi vs Irina and Ise together for v18, but oh well)

jopjopjop
2014-11-01, 12:21
The question is, will Ex-Durandal be stolen in the first place? I know it's quite obvious to see that it being stolen would be how the story will go but with the quotes, I don't see any indication that Ex-Durandal was stolen or used against them by the previous wielder.

Only thing said is that Xenovia doesn't know how to use it and is using it in the wrong way.

LowCholesterol
2014-11-01, 12:56
Speculation after volume 18? Alright, let's kick off this thread with some volume 19 speculation then!

What sort of power-up do you think Xenovia will gain if she gets Ex-Durandal stolen from her? Obviously she can't fight until she gets another weapon or gets it back.

On another topic, once Miyama-Zero is back to her usual self, what would you like to see illustrations of?

-Ise's True-Queen and Vali's Empireo Juggernaut Overdrive (color)
-Crom Cruach (color)
-Some of the other legendary Evil Dragons, like Apophis or Azi Dahaka (or Nhǫggr if/when it appears)
-Dulio using his Longinus, Zenith Tempest (color)
-Diehauser Belial vs Raiser (color)
(I would have liked a color illustration of Yaegaki Masaomi vs Irina and Ise together for v18, but oh well)


maybe she will regretting about she only using it's power and then she get the way to use ex-durandal efficiently

and about the illustration i wanted


- Cao-Cao using his balance breaker vs evil dragon
- Dulio last attack to Walburg (color)
- Gabriel naked! (color)
- Trihexa appeared (color)
- Azazel and Blazer Shining Aura Darkness Blade in Balance Breaker

Chichiryuushintei
2014-11-01, 13:15
On another topic, once Miyama-Zero is back to her usual self, what would you like to see illustrations of?

-Ise's True-Queen and Vali's Empireo Juggernaut Overdrive (color)
-Crom Cruach (color)
-Some of the other legendary Evil Dragons, like Apophis or Azi Dahaka (or Nhǫggr if/when it appears)
-Dulio using his Longinus, Zenith Tempest (color)
-Diehauser Belial vs Raiser (color)
(I would have liked a color illustration of Yaegaki Masaomi vs Irina and Ise together for v18, but oh well)


Wait, does this mean that Volume 19 will have the regular 6-10 illustrations? Because if it does Ill be so happy :D
-CCQ and EJOD; (Color)
-Crom Cruach; (Color)
-Dulio using Zenith Tempest; (Color)
-Tobio Ikuse with Akama- I mean Canis Lycaon;
-Ecchi scene with Xenovia. In the bathtub. After making babies. Do I need to say that it needs to be in color?

jopjopjop
2014-11-01, 13:21
Wait, does this mean that Volume 19 will have the regular 6-10 illustrations? Because if it does Ill be so happy :D
-I'd like to see CCQ and EJOD;
-Crom Cruach;
-Dulio using Zenith Tempest;
-Tobio Ikuse with Akama- I mean Canis Lycaon;

Of course not. We can even have only the cover.

Chichiryuushintei
2014-11-01, 13:24
Of course not. We can even have only the cover.

Y U must crush my hopes and dreams to pieces? T_____T

LowCholesterol
2014-11-01, 13:35
Y U must crush my hopes and dreams to pieces? T_____T

don't give your hopes up. there are possibilities

DragoMuseveni
2014-11-01, 15:29
I just want to see Gabriel . And CCQ . And EJOD . I really want to see them . And i want to see vali getting a true power up to crush lilin

G147
2014-11-01, 20:37
don't give your hopes up. there are possibilities

The recent Oda Nobuna Volume says otherwise. Miyama only gave 1 illustration the cover. ( ._.)

Always86
2014-11-01, 21:14
Any chance we might see an Infinite Stratos situation and have another artist take over. I enjoy the DxD story a lot but part of the fun is sexy/cool drawings.

GrrDraxin
2014-11-01, 21:59
If only art styles could be inherited. It would be nice if there were other artists that could take over without a noticeable change in the designs. In this case, it would be like going from Miyama-Zero to Miyama-One, totally different person, but same art style and quality.

jopjopjop
2014-11-01, 22:16
After rereading details about Volume 19, the previous wielder must be someone really powerful for Kokabiel, an enemy, to even praise him by saying he's a person with unrivaled strength.

And if he was regarded that high, then that raises Dulio's status much higher as he's known as the strongest exorcist even with a person like the previous wielder amongst their ranks.

DOmus
2014-11-03, 16:27
But even if he was the previous user, is he capable of wield the sword without problems, or even using it?, because only the current user(if im not wrong) is capable of bringing the sword back from it dimension, so Xenovia can just hide it there and job done...or the previous users still have the authority to use it?

I would like to see Tosh as the illustrator if Miyama leave the job

jopjopjop
2014-11-03, 16:32
That's why I said in my earlier post here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5321234&postcount=3) that there's no indication that the previous wielder was able to take hold of Durandal in the first place.

My previous post just highlights the previous wielder's strength.

~By the way, I kinda called it (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5165039&postcount=759). Ishibumi included that part in the preview. :cool::heh:

GrrDraxin
2014-11-03, 21:33
I would like to see Tosh as the illustrator if Miyama leave the job

Who's this Tosh guy? Link to an example, please?

DOmus
2014-11-03, 21:47
Who's this Tosh guy? Link to an example, please?

Shokugeki no Soma, Menkui!, Harem Time....mostly H mangas

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/12114/047.0/compressed/kshokugeki-no-soma-4563005.jpg?v=11384083181
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/056/5/0/harem_time_color_by_codegeman-d4qzjev.png

Got the feeling that Crom Cruach gonna help DxD in the upcoming volumes, maybe training issei in a secret dragon art, mixing his heavenly trait with the evil one, making a heavenly evil dragon or something like that

aw454wtr
2014-11-04, 04:48
After rereading details about Volume 19, the previous wielder must be someone really powerful for Kokabiel, an enemy, to even praise him by saying he's a person with unrivaled strength.

And if he was regarded that high, then that raises Dulio's status much higher as he's known as the strongest exorcist even with a person like the previous wielder amongst their ranks.

If the author follows the mythology in the "Song of Roland" a French poem, durandal was a sword given by an angel to Charlemagne, who gives it to Roland a paladin who is said to have driven back an army of 1000 men single handedly with durandal

jopjopjop
2014-11-04, 04:56
If the author follows the mythology in the "Song of Roland" a French poem, durandal was a sword given by an angel to Charlemagne, who gives it to Roland a paladin who is said to have driven back an army of 1000 men single handedly with durandal

Yes, Roland is strong, although in this case, the previous wielder is stronger.

Reasons are:

Kokabiel who was present in the war and lived all those days should have known both Roland and the PW (I'll just call the previous wielder as PW :heh:), but the one that he praised as having unrivaled strength is PW not the original wielder, Roland.
From my interpreted quotes, when Arthur challenged PW to a fight, PW was said to be the strongest of all the wielders.

jopjopjop
2014-11-04, 07:31
Speculation time : :heh:

Trying to find out what's the purpose of Kunou's reappearance, I reread Worship☆Dragon-God Girl.

In that SS, Kunou was there to help build a temple for Ophis. I wonder if her purpose this Volume is close to this objective again? Trying to build something .. or maybe even reforging Kusanagi no Tsurugi?!

G147
2014-11-04, 07:31
Well whoever the previous wielder is, i think it's interesting to be able to see a battle between two of the strongest human swordsman.

As for Kunou going to Kuoh Town. Maybe she's there because she's accompanying a few Youkais that are going to Kuoh Academy.

Tbolt
2014-11-04, 08:00
Well whoever the previous wielder is, i think it's interesting to be able to see a battle between two of the strongest human swordsman.

As for Kunou going to Kuoh Town. Maybe she's there because she's accompanying a few Youkais that are going to Kuoh Academy.

Now that would work, you can never have enough cute Fox youkai.

Gary29
2014-11-04, 08:24
Speculation time : :heh:

Trying to find out what's the purpose of Kunou's reappearance, I reread Worship☆Dragon-God Girl.

In that SS, Kunou was there to help build a temple for Ophis. I wonder if her purpose this Volume is close to this objective again? Trying to build something .. or maybe even reforging Kusanagi no Tsurugi?!

Spoiler alert: Xenovia's power-up is being given the Kusanagi! :D

jopjopjop
2014-11-04, 08:40
She just then needs to get / use Arthur's Collbrande and she will be the first to wield all famous holy swords. :D

charasu
2014-11-04, 09:20
Spoiler alert: Xenovia's power-up is being given the Kusanagi! :D

hmmm ekusukaliburu, durandaru and kusanagi???:twitch:
my.... xenovia using santoryuu now:twitch:
:heh:

G147
2014-11-04, 09:26
I think the Kusanagi requires Yamata no Orochi to be sealed inside it to function, without Orochi it's just a normal sword. And unfortunately Orochi is already gone. So the Kusanagi is now worthless. ( ._.)

jopjopjop
2014-11-04, 09:29
hmmm ekusukaliburu, durandaru and kusanagi???:twitch:
my.... xenovia using santoryuu now:twitch:
:heh:

Shouldn't it be kyuutoryuu? :eyespin:

DragoMuseveni
2014-11-04, 09:33
I wish to see a powerful japanese god . We`ve seen all kinds of god but no japanese one

Royalknightftw
2014-11-04, 12:16
I wish to see a powerful japanese god . We`ve seen all kinds of god but no japanese one

The japanese Gods will be the setting for Slash Dog IIRC.

jopjopjop
2014-11-04, 12:25
The japanese Gods will be the setting for Slash Dog IIRC.

Not the gods per se (Susanoo, Amaterasu, and such) but the four (five) gods (Suzaku, Byakko, etc).

RED IV
2014-11-04, 12:44
the ones who need to power up are Rias and Akeno

Royalknightftw
2014-11-04, 13:01
^ Already done, Extinguish Star and Dragon lightning (not sure if a dragon with lightning is called power up though )

G147
2014-11-04, 18:53
Akeno has her Fallen Angel Mode as well.

Royalknightftw
2014-11-04, 19:04
^Ah yes she is starting to learn more about her fallen angel potential

LowCholesterol
2014-11-05, 06:32
Rias need to make the faster technique than Extinguish Star, i guess

it's okay if she is on the team which mean she will be protected until the preparation is complete, but what if she is on the one on one fight against a powerful enemy which could only defeated by an attack which have same power like Extinguish Star

DragonKing0117
2014-11-05, 14:41
^ Already done, Extinguish Star and Dragon lightning (not sure if a dragon with lightning is called power up though )

It's not a dragon with lightning, it's a dragon made of lightning. Get it right! :frustrated:

Also on the note of when Miyama Zero decides to make more illustrations for DxD, I want:
CCQ Issei
Slash Dog and Jin
EJO Vali
The Evil Dragons (Mainly Grendel and Crom Cruach)
Valerie
Gasper Balor
Hero Faction (Leonardo, Heracles, Jeanne, Siegfried)
Arthur Pendragon
An official illustration of Mil-tan. Seriously, we only know what he looks like thanks to the Manga and Anime.
And thanks to SEason 3 Hype,The Youth Devils with their Peerage (excluding Rias and Sona's)

Direwolf18
2014-11-05, 14:57
Now Aisa has a lightning dragon. Although he is a baby he does spend a significant amount of free time sitting on the dragon gods head and receiving training from her. He is totally going to be a powerhouse in a few decades.


What Akeno does is create lightning in the form of a dragon.



While ol of that stuff is good and all dragon king what I really want to see is Gabriel.

G147
2014-11-05, 21:13
There's a difference, Rassei shoots out Blue Lightning. Akeno's is Holy Lightning.

jopjopjop
2014-11-12, 16:53
Its just a week before the release of Volume 19 and there's not much speculations, if not none, floating around. Probably because the quotes isn't translated yet.

Anyway, let's start throwing some ideas here to maybe hype Volume 19's release:

What do you think Tsubaki's BB's ability would be? Will her history affect that ability? (She was isolated when she was a kid because she was able to summon abnormal beings through her mirror)
~
What do you think Durandal's true nature is when it is said that Durandal can cut through anything/everything? Or is its sharpness even relevant to its nature?

DragonKing0117
2014-11-12, 17:19
What do you think Durandal's true nature is when it is said that Durandal can cut through anything/everything? Or is its sharpness even relevant to its nature?


Imagine: Durandal can cut through ideals. In that way, it is similar to Ruler in that it can do more than just the basic assumption of what it can do.

Gary29
2014-11-12, 17:33
How do you cut through ideals? I can understand Hauteclaire being able to purify hatred, but I can't figure out how Durandal can cut ideals. :twitch:

Tsubaki's BB could be similar to what Gasper Balor can do (in the sense of summoning monsters), but I doubt it. She might be able to summon multiple mirrors at once though.

I don't think its sharpness is related to Durandal's true nature that way; I think it's more of "There's so much more to Durandal's true nature than just power" sort of thing.

jopjopjop
2014-11-12, 17:38
@Gary She can do that already in Volume 17.


What I envision Tsubaki's BB would be something like Kuisha's hole. Where he can either reflect (original ability) or absorb the attack with a mirror then fire it using another one.

She can also use it to teleport people using the same method. This is the basic concept. Enter a mirror, exit from another.

This ability coincides with her SG's name, Mirror Alice, which Alice used as a gateway to go to another world.

Rokumonsen
2014-11-12, 18:04
^ Damn. If that happens Rizevim's definitely gonna have to take Tsubaki.

jopjopjop
2014-11-12, 18:33
^ Damn. If that happens Rizevim's definitely gonna have to take Tsubaki.

Not literally to another world. The reference I gave was from Lewis Caroll's Through the Looking Glass. Alice (the girl in Alice in Wonderland) used a mirror to go to another world.


What I had in mind is Tsubaki can use her mirrors to either use them offensively/defensively (redirect attacks / reflect them) or use the mirrors for strategic and tactical purposes, another weapon for Sona to use.

DragonKing0117
2014-11-12, 18:56
How do you cut through ideals? I can understand Hauteclaire being able to purify hatred, but I can't figure out how Durandal can cut ideals. :twitch:

Tsubaki's BB could be similar to what Gasper Balor can do (in the sense of summoning monsters), but I doubt it. She might be able to summon multiple mirrors at once though.

I don't think its sharpness is related to Durandal's true nature that way; I think it's more of "There's so much more to Durandal's true nature than just power" sort of thing.

Something similar to purifying hatred, cutting/erasing a person's ideals, ex.) using the ability makes a person lose their objectives for whatever they're doing like if you use the ability on a person trying to murder you, they lose the will to do so and leave you alone.

Of course, I was joking around when I said it, so don't take it so seriously. It's just fun speculation.

Gary29
2014-11-17, 14:43
Looking back at the preview of volume 19, we're most likely going to get another training section like volume 17 had:


Tobio's quote mentions a sparring match with Vali.
We need more info on [Penetrate].
From volume 17's Afterword, we're probably gonna get details on the abilities of Saji's BB.


So, that's gonna be fun. :D

~3 more days until its release!