Crunchyroll Punchline (Noitamina) [Anticipation] [Archive]

Dr. Dahm

2014-11-27, 15:21

Gainax director, famous VN writer on script, one of KlK animators as character designer and MAPPA. I doubt it will be yor generic ecchi-comedy.

See I look at it as guy that happened to work on a project out of Gainax long past their creative prime and nothing else before or since, eroge writer who I've never heard of, some guy that worked on a goofy fun show as an animator now doing some character designs to provide a familiar feeling and a studio with a pretty good track record who has unfortunately clearly been handed a project by Aniplex/Sony to fill time on a block they seem to be looking to axe due to generally low profit potential as opposed to their usual sort of fare. Last time that happened we got the kind of interesting at first but ultimately incredibly disappointing and forgettable Terror in Resonance and that held more potential promise than this looks like it ever will at face value

Realistically this just looks like an attempt to make some money out of the block as it's being slashed down to 30 minutes again by going more otaku friendly and nothing be it the staff, description or preview gives me any reason to suspect otherwise. If people are into pantsu comedy and looking for high budget ecchi material I have a feeling this will satisfy them, but there's no reason to suspect any more than just that.

Nachtwandler

2014-11-27, 16:00

eroge writer

You want to make me facepalm? He worked on a bunch of very famous non-ero mystery VNs. I don't even know how someone who are into anime never heard about Ever 17, 999 or Zero Escape.

Dr. Dahm

2014-11-27, 16:19

You want to make me facepalm? He worked on a bunch of very famous non-ero mystery VNs. I don't even know how someone who are into anime never heard about Ever 17, 999 or Zero Escape.

Just never really heard of them lol. :heh: I've been following anime for a good couple of decades long before some of the newer markets like LN/VN's cropped up, but have never really followed those scenes all that much so there's probably tons of people from that scene that have been increasingly making their way into anime that I've just never heard of. This guy could very well be super famous within that scene for all I know but I've literally never heard his name before today.

Tyabann

2014-11-27, 17:49

If nothing else this looks like the most original thing Uchikoshi has ever done. :heh:
Judging by the preview, I'd say that MAPPA is trying to play on the usual Trigger territory.
You mean the studio with two TV anime and a 20-minute short film, all of which are quite different from each other?
Unless you're referring to Gainax? Which, um, isn't unusual or odd considering that the staff for this are literally from Gainax?
What are you trying to say here, exactly?

AntonKutovoi

2014-11-28, 01:52

If nothing else this looks like the most original thing Uchikoshi has ever done. :heh:

You mean the studio with two TV anime and a 20-minute short film, all of which are quite different from each other?
Unless you're referring to Gainax? Which, um, isn't unusual or odd considering that the staff for this are literally from Gainax?
What are you trying to say here, exactly?

Ok, I think I should've actually say that it reminds me of Hiroyuki Imaishi's works :p

marconii2002

2014-11-28, 15:36

Visuals are out http://blog.getchu.com/archives/52088261.html

Nachtwandler

2014-11-28, 15:49

All of them were already posted on ANN

BTW. One guy just made me notice a funny wordplay with the title: Punchline/Panchira in

Shadow5YA

2014-11-28, 16:04

If nothing else this looks like the most original thing Uchikoshi has ever done. :heh:

Agreed.

I enjoyed Ever17 and the Zero Escape series on DS, but I'd like to see if Uchikoshi can write something that doesn't involve mental time travel :heh:

IceHism

2014-11-28, 16:46

Ever17 writer is good but seriously, the premise just looks really uninteresting in general. I think the other noitamina announced shows are my cup of tea. Its not really the genre I have a problem with , just I don't care about what this series is going to explore with that premise.

LuxorMG

2014-11-29, 05:41

I thought this was just another ecchi show or something, but saw Kotaro Uchikoshi and I was like WHAT??

Last I heard, Uchikoshi was trying to get the third game in the 999/VLR series greenlit. I guess he's paying the bills or something, tbh.

Westlo

2014-11-30, 02:23

Just never really heard of them lol. :heh: I've been following anime for a good couple of decades long before some of the newer markets like LN/VN's cropped up, but have never really followed those scenes all that much so there's probably tons of people from that scene that have been increasingly making their way into anime that I've just never heard of. This guy could very well be super famous within that scene for all I know but I've literally never heard his name before today.

999 and Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward are well beyond the usual VN fare in terms of mindshare. They're pretty much considered cult classics in video game circles, 999 was one of those super expensive DS games until it finally got a second run print a few years back.

They're pretty much Phoenix Wright status compared to typical VN fare or eroge writer crap you cast this guy as. Meta critic ratings of 82 and 88 as well as actually winning awards in western video game media shows that.

Tyabann

2014-11-30, 03:34

Meta critic ratings of 82 and 88 as well as actually winning awards in western video game media shows that.
They're also not particularly great, especially given how much they reuse from earlier Infinity games, IMO.

bastek66

2015-01-07, 08:59

http://i.imgur.com/peA59JC.jpg (http://imgur.com/peA59JC)http://i.imgur.com/cLcQK3T.jpg (http://imgur.com/cLcQK3T)http://i.imgur.com/Rw9Zmz1.jpg (http://imgur.com/Rw9Zmz1)http://i.imgur.com/14dDqfa.jpg (http://imgur.com/14dDqfa)

Articalys

2015-02-18, 01:15

http://www.shokotan.jp/information/news/002308.php

OP song is a collaboration between Shokotan and Dempagumi, written by Hyadain.

kyuudere

2015-02-18, 08:02

From /a/ :

-The cast will be announced tomorrow.
-Mihara Michio (Kaiba, Kemonozume, Space Dandy, etc) storyboarded eps 8, 9, and 12.
-Storyboard for ep 12 is being completed this week.
According to him, 4/5ths of the series are "pretty serious", and with plenty of action.
-Yoneyama Mai, Saitou Kengo confirmed for working primarily on Punchline at the moment. Rumor has it the same is true for most of TRIGGER's and Khara's young animators (Iseki, Handa, Mimiya, etc)
-OP is called Punchline, sang by Shokotan, composed by Hyadain

Kakkou

2015-02-18, 09:16

Since no one brought up the wordplay here besides Punchline/Panchira-in:

秩父ラブラ / Chichibu Rabura / Chichi Burabura (ちちぶらぶら) / Shaking tits
成木野みかたん / Narugino Mikatan / Seigi no Mikata (正義の味方) / Champion of justice
伊里優太/ Iridatsu Yuuta / Yuutai Ridatsu (幽体離脱) / Out-of-body experience
曳尾谷愛 / Hikiotani Ito / Hikiota Niito (ヒキオタニート) / Shut-in otaku NEET
台初明香 / Daihatsu Meika (ダイハツメーカー) / Daihatsu manufacturer

(*成 can be read as ‘Sei’)

Guardian Enzo

2015-02-18, 09:20

Episode 12? What's that now?

Izayoi Sakamaki

2015-02-18, 10:49

12 episodes for a Noitamina show ?

Tyabann

2015-02-18, 11:06

Tsuritama and Kids on the Slope both had 12 episodes, it's not unheard of. :heh:

MisaoFan

2015-02-18, 11:07

12 episodes for a Noitamina show ?

noitaminA did such format in a few anime they are aired there in the past, this isn't new for them at all, even if it was rarely used.

Nachtwandler

2015-02-18, 12:56

This. Just that 11x format is more common for NoitaminaA doesn't mean it's series never had more standard length. BTW current SaeKano is listed as 13 eps (most probably we'll get 2 at the end of March as KimiUso is still 22 eps)

kyuudere

2015-02-18, 14:06

12 episodes for a Noitamina show ?

Tsuritama and Kids on the Slope both had 12 episodes, it's not unheard of. :heh:

noitaminA did such format in a few anime they are aired there in the past, this isn't new for them at all, even if it was rarely used.

As they said, noitaminA show sometimes consists of 12 episodes. House of Five Leaves also had 12 episodes.

by the way, here is the picture of Mihara's storyboard :

http://s.kaskus.id/images/2015/02/19/6407515_20150219014826.jpg

from /a/ again :
Mihara's storyboards. Ep 9 on the left, about half of ep 12 on the right.
The first half of ep 12 is all action, so it took a regular episode's worth of sheets to do it.

http://s.kaskus.id/images/2015/02/19/6407515_20150219015024.jpg

I checked Mihara (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1718)'s track record :

Garo: Honoo no Kokuin (TV) : Storyboard (ep 16)
Kaiba (TV) : Script (ep 4), Storyboard (ep 4), Episode Director (ep 4), Animation Director (ep 4), In-Between Animation (ep 4 all), Key Animation (3 episodes)
Paranoia Agent (TV) : Storyboard (ep 9 ["HR"]), Animation Director (3 episodes), Key Animation (OP; eps 4, 12-13)
Space Dandy (TV) : Script (ep 6), Storyboard (ep 6), Episode Director (ep 6), Animation Director (ep 6), Art design (ep 6), Alien Design Team (eps 1, 4-7, 12), Guest Alien Design (ep 2), Key Animation (ep 6), Story Drafting (ep 6)
Space Dandy Season 2 (TV) : Animation Director (ep 12), Alien Design Team (eps 2, 6, 10), Guest Alien Design (eps 4, 7, 12-13), Key Animation (eps 3, 9, 12-13)
(The) Tatami Galaxy (TV) : Storyboard (ep 7), Episode Director (ep 7), Animation Director (ep 7), Key Animation (ep 7)
Terror in Resonance (TV) : Storyboard (ep 10), Key Animation (ep 10)
IMO episode 10 of Zankyou no Terror was satisfying, after lots of dull episodes before (5-9).

Also he's also experienced as Key Animators in many movies (Paprika, Jin-Roh, Millenium Actress, Spriggan, Ninja Scroll, Urusei Yatsura Movie) and series.

I could tell that the last episode would be really worth to watch.

Mihara's twitter :
https://twitter.com/mictimiha
https://twitter.com/mictimiha/status/566259710093848577

bastek66

2015-02-19, 11:49

Voicecast
Iridatsu Yuuta: Inoue Marina
Narugino Mikatan: Amemiya Sora
Hikiotani Ito: Kotobuki Minako
Daihatsu Meika: Kugimiya Rie
Chichibu Rabura: Tomatsu Haruka
Chiranosuke: Yoshida Yuri
New PV
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Sagitta Luminis

2015-02-19, 12:45

Looks like a crossbreed between Kill la Kill and Rolling Girls.

MisaoFan

2015-02-19, 15:19

Looks like a crossbreed between Kill la Kill and Rolling Girls.

That's what I thought at first glance as well. The obligatory excessive pantyshots reminds me of Agent AIka in how well it was used, though not as slightly explicit.

After reading the latest news of this anime as kyuudere told me, I'm guessing the plot will directly go right to the Madoka Magica/SamuMenco/YuYuYu route due to the misleading nature of the premise.

Tyabann

2015-02-20, 00:23

That bike slide... :heh:

I'm really surprised that the main dude isn't voiced by Yoshitsugu Matsuoka or someone worse. Marina Inoue is a pleasant surprise.

kyuudere

2015-02-20, 01:09

That bike slide... :heh:

I'm really surprised that the main dude isn't voiced by Yoshitsugu Matsuoka or someone worse. Marina Inoue is a pleasant surprise.

This. I'm glad this is full female cast. Otherwise they choose Yoshitsugu again :heh:
I'm getting bored of his voice. :heh:

bastek66

2015-02-20, 07:19

I wonder why they changed Chichibu's design
http://i.imgur.com/33JZkXq.jpg (http://imgur.com/33JZkXq)

Sagitta Luminis

2015-02-20, 07:22

I wonder why they changed Chichibu's design
http://i.imgur.com/33JZkXq.jpg (http://imgur.com/33JZkXq)
Because that green hair looks like moss.

Maxulous

2015-02-20, 20:21

I wonder why they changed Chichibu's design
http://i.imgur.com/33JZkXq.jpg (http://imgur.com/33JZkXq)
I definitely prefer the design on the left.

kyuudere

2015-02-21, 06:50

Following the 2nd PV introducing the main voice cast, the official website for Noitamina's upcoming TV anime Punchline has announced its premiere schedule for April 9, at 24:50 (JST). In addition, an advance screening event with the five main voice actresses: Marina Inoue (Yuuta Iridatsu), Sora Amamiya (Mikatan Narukino), Minako Kotobuki (Ito Hikiotani), Rie Kugimiya (Meika Daihatsu) and Haruka Tomatsu (Rabura Chichibu) is scheduled to be held at Odaiba Cinema Mediage at 19:30 on March 15. Their talk show part (no anime episode) will be lice-broadcasted (http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv210846336) on Nico Nico Live.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/02/21/noitaminas-new-tv-anime-punchline-premiere-day-set-for-april-9

mangatron

2015-03-14, 04:17

https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/yande-re-315004-punchline.jpg?w=500 (https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/yande-re-315004-punchline.jpg)

Boobies! Pantsu! ........MINT COLORED STOCKINGS Gyaaaar I want to pet that cat :heh::uhoh::heh:

https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/yande-re-312658-ass-cleavage-iwasaki_shouta-megane-pantsu-punchline-shimapan-sweater.jpg?w=500 (https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/yande-re-312658-ass-cleavage-iwasaki_shouta-megane-pantsu-punchline-shimapan-sweater.jpg)

Count me in on this series :D

kyuudere

2015-03-15, 07:48

OlGBUDRPqjI

Pocari_Sweat

2015-03-15, 09:02

Wtf I just watch? :heh:

Did I just watch like a PV of To Love Ru thats going to be on noitamina?

MisaoFan

2015-03-15, 09:12

Wtf I just watch? :heh:

Did I just watch like a PV of To Love Ru thats going to be on noitamina?

Of course you are, with the whole panties part playing a vital role to the series in the same manner as Chu-Bra!!. But they are also including some weird superhero comedy elements à la Samurai Flamenco with addition of superpowers from the very beginning.

kyuudere

2015-03-15, 09:13

New Key Visual

http://www.punchline.jp/assets/img/kv2.jpg

OP song by Shokotan

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http://www.famitsu.com/news/201503/15074054.html

Uchikoshi interview, here is the quick summary from /a/ :
-There's a game being released in tandem
-There's a twist
-It starts out mosly as a comedy, and gets serious later
-There are 5 insert songs by Komuro Tetsuya, one of them is "Enka-like"
-Apparently they said to keep watching at least until episode 6.

Sacredus

2015-03-15, 09:17

Lets see... Masou Mahou Shoujou, loooots of patsu, and a talking cat. Yep, it's A-TX sho... Noitamina? What? Ecchi on Noitamina? :confused:
Well... it's look... crazy. Maybe it will be actually good.

Edit:

Uchikoshi interview, here is the quick summary from /a/ :
-There's a game being released in tandem
-There's a twist
-It starts out mosly as a comedy, and gets serious later
-There are 5 insert songs by Komuro Tetsuya, one of them is "Enka-like"
-Apparently they said to keep watching at least until episode 6.
So we can aspect another Madoka like troll? Well, why not.

MisaoFan

2015-03-15, 09:33

Lets see... Masou Mahou Shoujou, loooots of patsu, and a talking cat. Yep, it's A-TX sho... Noitamina? What? Ecchi on Noitamina? :confused:
Well... it's look... crazy. Maybe it will be actually good.

Edit:

So we can aspect another Madoka like troll? Well, why not.

That's why I said earlier in the thread that the moment I saw the staff (the writer specifically) and other promotional stuff, I knew this will definitively enter right into the Madoka/SamFlam/YuYuYu territory.

kyuudere

2015-03-15, 09:43

Never played Uchikoshi's VN / 999 before, but from what I heard, he often use plot twist such as Alternate worlds, timelines, Blick Winkel.

And here is the ED Song by Koyama Shigeto

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Guardian Enzo

2015-03-15, 09:53

I guess this is what NoitaminA looks like when they stop pretending.

Dragonria

2015-03-15, 10:37

So much pantyshot, i don't know if i can handle this....(nosebleed)

Nachtwandler

2015-03-15, 10:42

People don't take it serious. Remember old Gainax series like FLCL with tons of ecchi and absurd premise but great overwise

Pocari_Sweat

2015-03-15, 10:54

I guess this is what NoitaminA looks like when they stop pretending.

Truly truly a sad sight.

Dragonria

2015-03-15, 10:56

the tag line of the anime "Once he sees underwear, humanity is destroyed!!" (on the first page)

I think we got our twist

Sagitta Luminis

2015-03-15, 11:31

OlGBUDRPqjI
That... Actually looks interesting. Except the pantsu shots, I'll never get used to that kind of thing.

bastek66

2015-03-15, 11:41

That... Actually looks interesting. Except the pantsu shots, I'll never get used to that kind of thing.
The title is pun on panchira. It's unavoidable.

kyuudere

2015-03-15, 11:44

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-30728.html

Just like what /a/ summarize, there will be a game for Punchline. Actually Uchikoshi started working the game first before making the story for anime, which based on that game.

totoum

2015-03-16, 00:45

People don't take it serious. Remember old Gainax series like FLCL with tons of ecchi and absurd premise but great overwise

Pretty much this, especially since even though this is MAPPA for some reason the staff is actually full of young khara/trigger people as well as the usual former madhouse veterans you usually find on MAPPA shows..

It legit is one of my most anticipated shows this spring.

edit:

Here's the OP

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Tyabann

2015-03-16, 02:17

GOD this looks great.

Anyone else remember Abenobashi? That was another really dirty, really interesting show. And this looks significantly tamer than that. :heh:

I guess this is what NoitaminA looks like when they stop pretending.
Truly truly a sad sight.

Welcome to Fall of 2011, guys. Or hell, last year, which had a fucking light novel adaptation run in the block.

So we can aspect another Madoka like troll? Well, why not.

...Is every anime with a dark(?) twist like Madoka now?

MisaoFan

2015-03-16, 02:44

Welcome to Fall of 2011, guys. Or hell, last year, which had a fucking light novel adaptation run in the block.

They are also airing Saekano this spring which is too a light novel adaptation and has the same director (Kanta Kamei).

They also aired Robotics;Notes that just so happens to be a video game adaptation, a first for them.

Tyabann

2015-03-16, 03:03

They are also airing Saekano this spring which is too a light novel adaptation and has the same director (Kanta Kamei).

Even that's different from something like Nanana (which I did enjoy, mind you).

com_gwp

2015-03-16, 13:42

People don't take it serious. Remember old Gainax series like FLCL with tons of ecchi and absurd premise but great overwise.

I'm sure we all understand there's the possibility for this to be a surprise; we're seeing a MAPPA production being scripted by Kotaro Uchikoshi after all.

Regardless, this is a far cry from what NoitaminA was originally concieved for.

totoum

2015-03-16, 13:59

I'm sure we all understand there's the possibility for this to be a surprise

Well the staff is telling us there's a twist at ep6...

I'm pretty much over NoitAminA, people can pretend NoitaminA is airing on NTV if they want, they've aired NoitaminA-ish shows for years, Death Parade airing this season, Ore Monogatari airing next season.

MisaoFan

2015-03-16, 16:07

Well the staff is telling us there's a twist at ep6...

I'm pretty much over NoitAminA, people can pretend NoitaminA is airing on NTV if they want, they've aired NoitaminA-ish shows for years, Death Parade airing this season, Ore Monogatari airing next season.

A fun fact to mention is NTV hasn't yet properly established a named programming block to assemble the anime stuff they had as of yet. The current lineup choice noitaminA is using these days really resemble MBS' Animeism a lot for a number of reasons, just a financial excuse to keep it alive really.

bastek66

2015-03-16, 18:18

Regardless, this is a far cry from what NoitaminA was originally concieved for.
Post like this are pointless when Saekano airs and earlier we had masterpieces like Guilty Crown.
Besides, even if something fit old noitamitA standard doesn't meant it's good (like that anime about guy in love with florist who's haunted by ghost of her dead husband).

com_gwp

2015-03-17, 00:19

Post like this are pointless when Saekano airs and earlier we had masterpieces like Guilty Crown.
Besides, even if something fit old noitamitA standard doesn't meant it's good (like that anime about guy in love with florist who's haunted by ghost of her dead husband).

I don't mean to imply otherwise. I'm just pointing out the general cynicism at what the block has become over the years.

Pocari_Sweat

2015-03-17, 06:59

Post like this are pointless when Saekano airs and earlier we had masterpieces like Guilty Crown.

Saekano and Guilty Crown masterpieces... :heh:

I guess some people weren't around when old noitamina was around.

kyuudere

2015-03-17, 07:15

Saekano and Guilty Crown masterpieces... :heh:

I guess some people weren't around when old noitamina was around.

Guilty Crown is masterpiece in its own way :heh:

But to be honest what's noitaminA's best show ?
I don't watch too much anime, but I think Mononoke and Tatami Galaxy are their best.

Pocari_Sweat

2015-03-17, 07:27

Guilty Crown is masterpiece in its own way :heh:

But to be honest what's noitaminA's best show ?
I don't watch too much anime, but I think Mononoke and Tatami Galaxy are their best.

Depends on what you're tastes are but for me it's their josei works - Honey & Clover, Nodame Cantabile, Paradise Kiss and in recent times Usagi Drop. But I also like and can understand people who like their more experimental shows like Mononoke, Katanagatari and Tatami Galaxy.

But the trashy light novels they started to adapt as if it was some run of the mill A-1 Pictures or JC Staff show... nope.

This PV so far. Looks like an excuse to be arthouse but really being a crass fanservice show.

com_gwp

2015-03-17, 07:28

Saekano and Guilty Crown masterpieces... :heh:

I guess some people weren't around when old noitamina was around.

I'm 80% sure that was sarcasm.

RollingPenguin

2015-03-17, 12:53

TV noitamina is dead, noitamina movies on the other hand look like some of the best things they have ever released.

dexecutioner

2015-03-17, 12:55

Well the staff is telling us there's a twist at ep6...

I'm pretty much over NoitAminA, people can pretend NoitaminA is airing on NTV if they want, they've aired NoitaminA-ish shows for years, Death Parade airing this season, Ore Monogatari airing next season.

That's because NTV loves to air late night anime (same with tv asahi but their anime wasn't good which is why they quit doing it...) and they've been airing late night anime even before noitaminA.

Personally, I think Aniplex ruined noitaminA. Ever since they took over, its been a series of flops.

I hope Punchline will be good.
late for realizing this but Punchline when said in japanese sounds like Panchira. Oh them and their puns.

bastek66

2015-03-17, 13:55

Personally, I think Aniplex ruined noitaminA. Ever
since they took over, its been a series of flops.
But AnoHana was huge success and Saekano vol.1 sold 9k.

MisaoFan

2015-03-17, 14:32

TV noitamina is dead, noitamina movies on the other hand look like some of the best things they have ever released.

I assume you were talking about how shows that felt like they were imported from either MBS or Tokyo MX have already taken over noitaminA that simply leads to much dismay for many of its former fans.

Guardian Enzo

2015-03-17, 16:29

It was nice that NoitaminA was an hour of anime that wasn't driven by the same imperatives as the rest of the schedule. There's dozens of slots every season for LN adaptations and cute girls being cute - there are almost none for the type of shows NoitaminA was set up to produce. It's not like losing those two slots was harmful for fans of those other kinds of anime - they still owned the rest of the schedule. So I think it's perfectly natural to mourn the passing of the old block.

That said, totoum is right - NoitaminA has really been dead for a while, it's just that now the body is really starting to rot. Best to get past it and bury the corpse. And yes, NTV is airing interesting stuff quite often these days.

Tyabann

2015-03-17, 17:04

But to be honest what's noitaminA's best show ?
I don't watch too much anime, but I think Mononoke and Tatami Galaxy are their best.

There's also Silver Spoon, UN-GO, AnoHana (arguably), and Samurai Flamenco. People say Shiki is good too.

It was nice that NoitaminA was an hour of anime that wasn't driven by the same imperatives as the rest of the schedule. There's dozens of slots every season for LN adaptations and cute girls being cute - there are almost none for the type of shows NoitaminA was set up to produce. It's not like losing those two slots was harmful for fans of those other kinds of anime - they still owned the rest of the schedule. So I think it's perfectly natural to mourn the passing of the old block.

Few things with this: you and other people are quick to write off LN adaptations and basically anything with an all-women cast, when there are plenty of such shows just as worthwhile as anything that's ever aired on noitaminA. Putting a solid distinction between the block and Those Other Shows People Who Aren't Me Like is a bit ridiculous IMO.

As has been mentioned, noitaminA was "set up to produce" adaptations of josei manga, but hasn't done so exclusively since 2007.

I realize that the block has fallen -far- from people's (and my own) expectations of it, but (as has, again, been mentioned) there are numerous shows every year that are functionally the same kind of programming as Trapeze and Tatami Galaxy, you just need to look a little harder now.

That said, totoum is right - NoitaminA has really been dead for a while, it's just that now the body is really starting to rot. Best to get past it and bury the corpse. And yes, NTV is airing interesting stuff quite often these days.

Your feelings on panties aside, Punchline strikes me as something far more appropriate (compared to Saekano or Nanana) for what noitaminA has been doing for years now: being an extension of Aniplex's Anime no Chikara, which was, if you recall, largely about producing original anime series with talented or famous staff.

Besides, there's not only the Project Itoh movies but the -three- other series this year, all of which look pretty interesting and bereft of "moeshit". While complaints about noitaminA's lineup are nothing new I feel it's a bit early to declare the block a "rotting corpse" yet.

kuromitsu

2015-03-18, 04:24

Few things with this: you and other people are quick to write off LN adaptations and basically anything with an all-women cast, when there are plenty of such shows just as worthwhile as anything that's ever aired on noitaminA.
Personally my problem is not with all-female casts, it's that inevitably they end up as the main vehicles of the show targeting an audience that I'm not part of... and usually there's little else to watch these for. It's only every once in a while that we get a show like, say, Red Garden. And as for LN adaptations, look, I'm perfectly willing to believe that there really good LNs out there that are more than generic wishfulfillment fantasies and generic romance/adventures. It's just that I haven't seen any. :heh: (Nothing wrong with wishfulfillment fantasies and romance/adventuers, but the LN variety is not my cup of tea.) The last LN-to-anime show I gave a chance was Hataraku Maou-sama, and it was a huge disappointment for me. So there's that.

I'm not one of those who claim that LN adaptations are killing anime (in every age there's something that is killing anime), and in any case in my experience the crap to good ratio has been mostly the same for ages and so far I've always found worthwhile shows to watch. But I do find the current trend tedious. I'm sure I wouldn't if I was part of the target audience, but as I am not... :heh:

As has been mentioned, noitaminA was "set up to produce" adaptations of josei manga, but hasn't done so exclusively since 2007.
Minor correction, Noitamina was set up to try to appeal to a young adult female target audience, those who normally don't watch anime. Hence the adaptations of various shoujo/josei manga with stories that could be expected to be popular with that age group, and, at least in the beginning, involving artists who were also popular with the target demographic (aka: how I learned that Kinki Kids' Kouichi is actually a pretty good voice actor, if only more shows were able to afford him).

And I think they tried to stick to the "try to appeal to an adult female demographic" for quite a long time? Even after they tweaked the original setup to target women who are already watching anime, there was, from their post-2007 shows, Moyashimon, Hakaba Kitarou, Antique Bakery, all that Nodame, Genji, Kuuchuu buranko, House of Five Leaves, Tatami Galaxy, Kuragehime, Shiki... shows that were either squarely targeted a female audience, or at least included it.

Personally I think it was around the time of Fractale and AnoHana when there was a very clear change.

MisaoFan

2015-03-18, 04:48

And as for LN adaptations, look, I'm perfectly willing to believe that there really good LNs out there that are more than generic wishfulfillment fantasies and generic romance/adventures. It's just that I haven't seen any. :heh: (Nothing wrong with wishfulfillment fantasies and romance/adventuers, but the LN variety is not my cup of tea.) The last LN-to-anime show I gave a chance was Hataraku Maou-sama, and it was a huge disappointment for me. So there's that.

If you want to watch good LN adaptations, take a look at the past and you might give Baccano!, Spice & Wolf, Durarara!! (season one) and Humanity is Declined (Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita) to learn the fact that this particular line I paraphrased is very true in my part, marathon them as you please when there's nothing else to do. There's also Sunday Without God which is also enjoyable for me, there's plenty of said shows like these before 2010s.

kuromitsu

2015-03-18, 05:15

If you want to watch good LN adaptations, take a look at the past and you might give Baccano!, Spice & Wolf, Durarara!! (season one) and Humanity is Declined (Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita) to learn the fact that this particular line I paraphrased is very true in my part, marathon them as you please when there's nothing else to do. There's also Sunday Without God which is also enjoyable for me, there's plenty of said shows like these before 2010s.
Oh yeah, true, I forgot about Baccano and Durarara (although I didn't like DRRR nearly as much as Baccano). There's not many of this sort nowadays, though...

(Sunday Without God started out decent but then turned into kind of meh IMO and I dropped it.)

AntonKutovoi

2015-03-18, 05:29

Well, Fate/Zero is LN adaptation as well. And Slayers. From the recent memory - The Pilot's Love Song. Show had it's share of problems, but still was pretty good.

moodie

2015-03-18, 09:35

i hate seeing ppl compare this to rolling girls

but at the same time i can see why because of the wacky nature i hope its good tho the synopsis already makes me believe its gonna be funny af

Tenzen12

2015-03-19, 04:57

Minor correction, Noitamina was set up to try to appeal to a young adult female target audience, those who normally don't watch anime. Hence the adaptations of various shoujo/josei manga with stories that could be expected to be popular with that age group, and, at least in the beginning, involving artists who were also popular with the target demographic (aka: how I learned that Kinki Kids' Kouichi is actually a pretty good voice actor, if only more shows were able to afford him).

And I think they tried to stick to the "try to appeal to an adult female demographic" for quite a long time? Even after they tweaked the original setup to target women who are already watching anime, there was, from their post-2007 shows, Moyashimon, Hakaba Kitarou, Antique Bakery, all that Nodame, Genji, Kuuchuu buranko, House of Five Leaves, Tatami Galaxy, Kuragehime, Shiki... shows that were either squarely targeted a female audience, or at least included it.

Personally I think it was around the time of Fractale and AnoHana when there was a very clear change.

That's actually wrong, noitaminA isn't supposed target adult female demographic, or to be exact it isn't supposed target adult female demographic ONLY. Anyone who isn't teenage boy is. To put it simply more mature audience without regard of gender.

kuromitsu

2015-03-19, 05:27

That's actually wrong, noitaminA isn't supposed target adult female demographic, or to be exact it isn't supposed target adult female demographic ONLY. Anyone who isn't teenage boy is. To put it simply more mature audience without regard of gender.
Pssst, note the past tense. :heh:

That was the original idea, which they deviated from since then, a little at first and pretty much completely by now.

Westlo

2015-03-19, 08:30

Pssst, note the past tense. :heh:

That was the original idea, which they deviated from since then, a little at first and pretty much completely by now.

It was never the original idea, he's saying the point of Noitamina was to expand the audience beyond the young male audience. It wasn't strictly a josei block like some people around here act like it was, older males were also targeted by this block at first. Hence stuff like Ayakashi, Mononoke, Moyasimon and Hakaba Kitaro which comprise 4 of the first ten shows of the block.

kuromitsu

2015-03-19, 11:19

It was never the original idea, he's saying the point of Noitamina was to expand the audience beyond the young male audience. It wasn't strictly a josei block like some people around here act like it was, older males were also targeted by this block at first. Hence stuff like Ayakashi, Mononoke, Moyasimon and Hakaba Kitaro which comprise 4 of the first ten shows of the block.
But that's wrong. The idea behind Noitamina was to target the so-called F1 demographics, which is women in their 20-30s. IIRC they even mentioned this in various interviews at the time.

The first series on the block were Honey&Clover, ParaKiss, Ayakashi, Juuousei, Honey&Clover II, Hataraki Man, Nodame, Mononoke - all shows whose main target is a young adult female demographics. (Just because something is not based on a shoujo manga and isn't romance doesn't mean its primary target audience can't be female...)

Later on they changed the formula and widened the target demographic.

vaden

2015-03-19, 16:13

Can we move the general noitaminA discussion to the appropriate thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=101520)?

TJR

2015-03-19, 18:34

As always, a convincing business case is required for any venture. While the overarching purpose was to expand the anime audience, the 20-30 year old female demographic was the only target they identified.

noitaminA actually emerged from Fuji's TV drama division and depended on their experience with sponsors who market products to young women. This was the business case, and early on, the same producers (with Yoko Matsuzaki in charge of programming) responsible for TV dramas coordinated the slot.

Obviously, the business case has changed (contrary to popular belief, viability of the original plan was shaky from the beginning. The numbers just didn't work), and such contents as Punchline reflect a different target audience.

Just because something is not based on a shoujo manga and isn't romance doesn't mean its primary target audience can't be female...

They were trying to vary their programming. Far from being an attempt at block suicide, the more esoteric works were intended to draw in young women with a liberal arts bent.

Archon_Wing

2015-03-24, 18:06

Looks questionable for any slot.

But despite this, I don't get this noitamina is dead stuff; I mean sure you get your Guilty Crowns and crap that slipped in and it's distressing but it's not like we don't have stuff like Shigatsu and Terror in Tokyo.

desrtsku

2015-04-02, 09:17

I think I'll be picking this up because of the chara design, Mappa and dumb fun.
Not interested in the panchira theme though. (since I'm mainly a panmoro person)

Stark700

2015-04-02, 15:18

CR got it Territories:
PUNCH LINE will be available in the following territories: United States (and its territories), Canada, Central and South America (including the Caribbean), United Kingdom and Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, and their territories, Netherlands, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, Russia and MENA.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/02-1/crunchyroll-adds-punch-line-anime-to-spring-lineup

Stark700

2015-04-09, 11:21

Episode 1:

Welp, that was fun. Comedy wise at least, I found it amusing and the concept of underwear is actually part of the show's premise lol. Not sure I like Yuuta much though but I find his spirit form to be quite amusing. ED song is alright I suppose but I expect the story to get more complex from here on and out.

Going to stick around for more~

MisaoFan

2015-04-09, 13:24

It's pretty strange and very wacky, but I really enjoyed it.

Having a premise that revolves around underwear is already done before, in fact Chu-Bra! actually had one (assuming if anyone actually watched it and then have vibes of it when watching the show :heh:). On the other hand, I believe Yuuta's phobia of underwears might have an actual reason as it progresses and so far from what I see, whenever he sees more than a single pantyshot (specifically twice), he'll die of nosebleeds (likely due to powerups) and then revives as a ghost in a new timeline, very indicative that time travel is in the plot.

Chiranosuke is pretty interesting as a character, he'll be the one who helps Yuuta to overcome his troubles, what's more important however is that Yuuta needs to get used to pantyshots without any doubt, but then considering what's happening, I wouldn't know.

I also didn't knew that Yuuta is actually familiar with the girls in an apartment before, I like how they change their own underwear similar to real life, how the way they are drawn are sometimes pretty creative. Tetsuya Komuro's OST sounds rather catchy with a retro touch, I actually liked how his (soon to be memorable) tracks are used in some scenes.

Might keep watching I guess.