View Full Version : Licensed Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry (A Chivalry of the Failed Knight) Anticipation
Stark700
2015-03-09, 01:15
http://i.imgur.com/vW2wlsF.jpg
The April issue of Square Enix's Monthly Shonen Gangan magazine is announcing on Thursday that an adaptation of Riku Misora's Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry (A Chivalry of the Failed Knight or Worst One's Cavalry) light novel series has been green-lit.
Plot Summary/Premise:
There are modern-day magicians called Mage-Knights. Although Kurogane Ikki is a student at an institution that trains Mage-Knights, he has no particular talent in magic and is labeled the "Failure Knight" or "Worst One." Getting way less than average marks in the scorings, he was forced to repeat a year. But with the arrival of a new head of the institution, a new rule was created: knights whose abilities are compatible, as decided by the board, must share rooms and attend practice and training together throughout their school years to bring up their abilities to the max. It is a rule to implement the absolute verdict of ability.
Ikki’s roommate, Stella Vermillion, turns out to be a princess of another foreign country. Stella is a Rank A knight: the type of genius in magic who only appears once a decade. When Ikki walked in on her while she was changing her clothes, it caused a huge misunderstanding (since neither yet knew of the new rule) which eventually ended up in a duel between the two of them. The punishment (or as some might see it, the prize) of the losing side is Eternal Submission to the winning side.
Forced to live the same room and practice magic together throughout all their school years, how will Stella and Ikki’s relationship evolve?
Preview:
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Another LN adaptation.
ANN source link:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-09/a-chivalry-of-the-failed-knight-light-novels-get-anime/.85769
Miraluka
2015-03-09, 01:16
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/rakudai-kishi-no-eiyuutan-r11615
Based on WN that spawned an LN and manga version.
Kurohane
2015-03-09, 01:20
Sweet! An anime adaption of this series!
AntonKutovoi
2015-03-09, 02:43
Oh look, another cliched magical-school comedy. And I swear I've seen a girl's design at least five times in a different series. The most recent one - Mio from Shinmai Maou no Testament.
omega253
2015-03-09, 03:06
Oh look, another cliched magical-school comedy. And I swear I've seen a girl's design at least five times in a different series. The most recent one - Mio from Shinmai Maou no Testament.
This isn't as cliche as you'd think it would be. Check out the first volume of the LN and you might find yourself a bit surprised. :heh:
LG-MAX 2.o
2015-03-09, 03:11
This isn't as cliche as you'd think it would be. Check out the first volume of the LN and you might find yourself a bit surprised. :heh:
the girl was kissed by another man who is not the protagonist?
MisaoFan
2015-03-09, 03:18
The premise is somehow questionable, I still don't know what is the purpose for the MC to enter the school in the first place. I do like the fact that he doesn't have any magic even if the way he stands out from others might not translate to a necessarily good thing. I hoped that he somehow might have a personality of a old school battle shounen protagonists without the post-modern traits that plague throughout him (like the Marty Stu trait, something I really dislike if it's taken to the extreme).
The checklist themes used in the premise is like a crossover of Dragonar Academy with Absolute Duo and the girl appearing in most of the novel covers is like a slightly different and otherwise mature version of Claire Rouge from Blade Dance of Elementalers.
I might watch it just for the fact I actually still love the genre since it is capable at delivering series about flawed yet admirable protagonists which we get every once in a while (Lord Marksman and the Vanadis, Trinity Seven).
Marcus H.
2015-03-09, 03:21
Another thing you guys have to take into consideration is the fact that Japan won WWII in this series, apparently.
Guardian Enzo
2015-03-09, 03:27
Another thing you guys have to take into consideration is the fact that Japan won WWII in this series, apparently.
Oh Goody - not just a formula LN, but a Nationalist wish-fulfillment one too. A priceless combo.
Amiluhur
2015-03-09, 03:46
This isn't as cliche as you'd think it would be. Check out the first volume of the LN and you might find yourself a bit surprised. :heh:
I've read few manga chapters and honestly . . . It was so soul-crushingly bland. The first meeting with the heroine was totally unbearable (how many times already we've seen "MC bumps into naked heroine and punishes him in retaliation" crap?), the very concept of the Mage Knight just seem trying too hard at "being special soldiers" and made up of overused ideas seen on million times already, the expository bits were especially cringeworthy how they were cramed in the dialogues of each characters. "Failed Knight" is a nickname grating on my nerves given how easily the MC trashes the ridiculously powerful heroine. And finally, i dropped it when the MC turns out to be having "tragic past" that's forcibly shoehorned into the narrative
The One Above God
2015-03-09, 04:00
First Akagami, then OPM, and now this?! :heh: Series I'm following are getting adaptions one after another. I wonder what's next...:heh:
Eisdrache
2015-03-09, 05:33
I am still amazed by people who are able to tell how the adaption will work out before it has aired or know the premise without reading the source. I sure can't.
Marcus H.
2015-03-09, 05:48
^ Let's not be ignorant about how web novels write. Besides, there's the manga as a basis for what to expect in the anime, and you can't really say that those who are cautious of this series are talking things out of their ass.
NovelReader
2015-03-09, 05:50
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/rakudai-kishi-no-eiyuutan-r11615
Based on WN that spawned an LN and manga version.
Wait, it started as a WN? Never knew that, I really want to read further then. If its possible, do you have the link for that?
MisaoFan
2015-03-09, 05:59
Oh Goody - not just a formula LN, but a Nationalist wish-fulfillment one too. A priceless combo.
Mahouka already did it before and it was done in an almost unbearable way. Add to the fact that the MC practically had no flaws and is the very definition of Marty Stu serves as an insult to the injury for some people.
I have to note that not every light novel follows the same supernatural romance action formula, but there's quite a lot of them that got animated recently.
The main character is Mahouka v2.
How is that"failed" again?
Another blatant lies.
The One Above God
2015-03-09, 06:25
^Hey, at least the MC in this one is not as OP as Tatsuya. I mean he barely even wins his fights with higher tier opponents. The only things the MC has are skills. He is also more expressive, not to mention that his character is more likable. Also, he is not a siscon :heh:
MisaoFan
2015-03-09, 06:26
The main character is Mahouka v2.
How is that"failed" again?
Another blatant lies.
Here's I'll tell you why:
The next time a LN that have the word "failed" (or something similar) in it gets animated, I pray to god that the MC is an actually flawed character that starts as a wimp in honor of the series' title and then slowly develop his skills like the battle shounen MCs from the past. I might not like wimps or Marty Stus, but I'll take the former since they're flawed even if I don't enjoy seeing them over for being utter crybabies whenever they trip and fall over a cute girl or just run away from what would be seen as elaborate rambling against another person.
winhlp32
2015-03-09, 07:13
GUYS! It's not cliche I swear!
It's actually not a harem, I swear!
The main protagonist is actually a badass in this one, unlike all the other wimpy teenage boys, I swear!
Unlike other crappy LNs, this one is different and actually good, I double swear!!
GUYS! It's not cliche I swear!
It's actually not a harem, I swear!
The main protagonist is actually a badass in this one, unlike all the other wimpy teenage boys, I swear!
Unlike other crappy LNs, this one is different and actually good, I double swear!!
Then the title should renamed to "A chivalry of the badass knight." :heh::heh:
Eisdrache
2015-03-09, 07:53
^ Let's not be ignorant about how web novels write. Besides, there's the manga as a basis for what to expect in the anime, and you can't really say that those who are cautious of this series are talking things out of their ass.
The manga counts as source, I already addressed that in my post. It's my belief that you should judge every story on it's own regardless of how many similar ones you have read before.
I actually didn't mind the MC in this one. Sure, he isn't Ikta Solock, and he has his cliche moments with the female MC, but he's portrayed well. I also generally enjoy characters that are strong, but normally looked down upon for whatever reason. Guess in a way, it is similar to Mahouka :heh:, but I dont' think it'll be that bad, from what I've read of the manga.
I actually didn't mind the MC in this one. Sure, he isn't Ikta Solock, and he has his cliche moments with the female MC, but he's portrayed well. I also generally enjoy characters that are strong, but normally looked down upon for whatever reason. Guess in a way, it is similar to Mahouka :heh:, but I dont' think it'll be that bad, from what I've read of the manga.
But the reason for he got looked down by people is simply ridiculous.:uhoh::uhoh:
Rakudai Kishi gets an anime conversion? Really? Aha! Hang on a sec!
*moves down into the cellar and closes the door*
HELL YESSSSSS!!!!
*comes back with a neutral face, but failing to hide a smile*
Okay, let's not mince words here. For me, this is awesome, awesome news. Not because this show does anything completely new. Not because this show is particularly clever. By genre, it's a classic Ecchi Magical Fighting School show that come a dime a dozen, and if you can't stand this genre, take the next exit.
But: It has some of the most likable and endearing characters I've come across in hundreds of mangas/LNs I've read.
The male MC Ikki is called the "failed one" because the year before he totally failed the ranking exam. That was essentially due to outside interference (his "family" trying to ruin him), but he's an excellent swordfighter with some very limited (yet powerful) magic skills, but calling him Tatsuya or Gary Stu is way overblown. He's got a nice open personality and a spine. Capable, but not omnipotent, determined and confident. Once he ends up in embarrassing situations, he tries to man up and deal with them, and not shrivel away. Pretty rare nowadays.
The female MC Stella is a prodigy in swordsmanship and fire magic and the princess of a small European nation, coming over to hone her skills in this Japanese magic school. To give detractors their due: She is pretty, plot-laden and naturally tilts when the male MC walks in on her changing - par for the course. What's unusual is that regardless of her flaring temper (think fire magic) she is not violent by disposition. She is 1 parts tsun and 3 parts dere, which makes her very _endearing_, especially since the LN offers many scenes in which her POV is explained from the first-person perspective, so we get to understand exactly what moves her and why.
The huge strength of this show, and what makes Rakudai Kishi enter my personal top10 list, is the character development between Ikki and Stella. I absolutely recognize that this is my _personal_ preference, but for those who enjoy nonstandard character development, this show is a treat. I'll spoilertag their development from LN volume 1-4 to be sure. Careful, this IS spoilerish.
I mean it. This _is_ spoilerish. Turn back unless you really don't mind being spoiled.
Starting out extremely bad, Ikki's attempt to "compensate" Stella for his eyeful is creative, but totally crazy, and so his promise to "take responsibility for it" prompts Stella to ask him to commit harakiri ;)
The school chairwoman makes clear that she assigned both of them to the same (double occupancy) room, and they should settle their dispute and "living rules" in a duel. Stella is livid and demands that the loser is to be the victor's servant for life. Naturally, she ends up losing (lol)... Hikki only asks for a fresh start as roommates and friends.
From this starting point on, things develop very unusually fast, so only bullet points up to volume 4:
o Both don't putz around cluelessly, but realize that they actually like the other very much
o Two separate confessions in both directions (Stella's is pretty amazing)
o Agree to become boyfriend/girlfriend (in secret due to Stella's position as princess)
o First requited kiss
o More than just requited kisses
o Marriage proposal accepted (still problematic, since Stella is still a princess)
Taking this as backbone to the show, the other ingredients which could otherwise simply ruin things like Ikki's yandere imouto with incestuous tendencies Shizuku, her trap companion Alice and the likes, work fine to _incite_ shenanigans, but they don't really overshadow the main couple. Which is what ruins too many other LNs of this kind, which neglect the main pairing for additional characters that I don't really care about.
So, to finish the rant: This show will have more than its share of oblivious Iknowitallafterwatching5minutes naysayers regurgitating wisdom from the cesspool blogs. And I don't give a wet fart.
Ikki is one of the most reasonable and likable MCs I know. Stella is among the most endearing tsunderederes out there and a joy to behold (and no, I'm not just talking about her ample plot). And the development of their relationship is so uncharacteristically _pleasing_ to follow that I'm going to pray that this show gets a good animation team.
So there, I'm really psyched! One of my favorite guilty pleasure shows gets a conversion! YAY :)
Kismet-chan
2015-03-09, 08:36
GUYS! It's not cliche I swear!
It's actually not a harem, I swear!
The main protagonist is actually a badass in this one, unlike all the other wimpy teenage boys, I swear!
Unlike other crappy LNs, this one is different and actually good, I double swear!!
I can't tell if you're being serious or not. :heh:
This series just sounds and looks like literally EVERY harem series from the past year and a half. Loser protag who eventually becomes badass, super proficient super special mage chick who's also a ~*princess*~, a forced/fated partnership, "battle school" setting, big tits and red ponytail style, that stupid and contrived as hell "he walked in on her while she was getting dressed! LOL!" bullshit...
I also love how there's extremely little diversity between the novel volume covers. It's like the artist is in on some joke the author doesn't get, screaming "HEY everyone! Look! MORE of the SAME!"
All we need now is for the girl to transform into a freaking vampire fairy demon dragon when hyper-pissed, get in the inevitable "the protagonist ignored her or/and she was captured and tortured, so now she's EEEEVIIIIIIL, but his kiss + cheesy speech will save the day" episode, and we'll have FULL fucking BINGO.
GreyZone
2015-03-09, 08:37
Oh look, another cliched magical-school comedy. And I swear I've seen a girl's design at least five times in a different series. The most recent one - Mio from Shinmai Maou no Testament.
It's definitly not "cliche".
I've read few manga chapters and honestly . . . It was so soul-crushingly bland. The first meeting with the heroine was totally unbearable (how many times already we've seen "MC bumps into naked heroine and punishes him in retaliation" crap?), the very concept of the Mage Knight just seem trying too hard at "being special soldiers" and made up of overused ideas seen on million times already, the expository bits were especially cringeworthy how they were cramed in the dialogues of each characters. "Failed Knight" is a nickname grating on my nerves given how easily the MC trashes the ridiculously powerful heroine. And finally, i dropped it when the MC turns out to be having "tragic past" that's forcibly shoehorned into the narrative
While the premise is not very original you seem to have stopped reading so early that you stopped at the premise itself and didn't even get a glimpse at the story.
The main character is Mahouka v2.
How is that"failed" again?
Another blatant lies.
Wrong. He is definitly not Tatsuya, not even close. He can get super strong for a minute, but then becomes unable to fight for multiple hours afterwards. I am pretty sure Tatsuya has no such limitation. Also Ikki does not have any invincibility hax like Tatsuya.
Why are so many people complaining about the "similar setting" only now? Maybe you should look at the differences to other series instead, because those are the things that really define this series.
Then the title should renamed to "A chivalry of the badass knight." :heh::heh:
His personality is "badass" and his fighting capabilities are "very creative", but do not manage to reach the level of "badassness". Ikki is not what people would consider a Gary Stu.
It's more like Rock-Paper-Scissors, where certain skills are the weakness of other skills in a circular fashion. the first volume of the LN should make it obvious. Ikki's real "strength" is being creative and adaptable, not someone who blows away the next enemy who appears just by using pulverisation magic, as a certain someone does in Mahouka...
The One Above God
2015-03-09, 08:40
Rakudai Kishi gets an anime conversion? Really? Aha! Hang on a sec!
*moves down into the cellar and closes the door*
HELL YESSSSSS!!!!
*comes back with a neutral face, but failing to hide a smile*
Okay, let's not mince words here. For me, this is awesome, awesome news. Not because this show does anything completely new. Not because this show is particularly clever. By genre, it's a classic Ecchi Magical Fighting School show that come a dime a dozen, and if you can't stand this genre, take the next exit.
But: It has some of the most likable and endearing characters I've come across in hundreds of mangas/LNs I've read.
The male MC Ikki is called the "failed one" because the year before he totally failed the ranking exam. That was essentially due to outside interference (his "family" trying to ruin him), but he's an excellent swordfighter with some very limited (yet powerful) magic skills, but calling him Tatsuya or Gary Stu is way overblown. He's got a nice open personality and a spine. Capable, but not omnipotent, determined and confident. Once he ends up in embarrassing situations, he tries to man up and deal with them, and not shrivel away. Pretty rare nowadays.
The female MC Stella is a prodigy in swordsmanship and fire magic and the princess of a small European nation, coming over to hone her skills in this Japanese magic school. To give detractors their due: She is pretty, plot-laden and naturally tilts when the male MC walks in on her changing - par for the course. What's unusual is that regardless of her flaring temper (think fire magic) she is not violent by disposition. She is 1 parts tsun and 3 parts dere, which makes her very _endearing_, especially since the LN offers many scenes in which her POV is explained from the first-person perspective, so we get to understand exactly what moves her and why.
The huge strength of this show, and what makes Rakudai Kishi enter my personal top10 list, is the character development between Ikki and Stella. I absolutely recognize that this is my _personal_ preference, but for those who enjoy nonstandard character development, this show is a treat. I'll spoilertag their development from LN volume 1-4 to be sure. Careful, this IS spoilerish.
I mean it. This _is_ spoilerish. Turn back unless you really don't mind being spoiled.
Starting out extremely bad, Ikki's attempt to "compensate" Stella for his eyeful is creative, but totally crazy, and so his promise to "take responsibility for it" prompts Stella to ask him to commit harakiri ;)
The school chairwoman makes clear that she assigned both of them to the same (double occupancy) room, and they should settle their dispute and "living rules" in a duel. Stella is livid and demands that the loser is to be the victor's servant for life. Naturally, she ends up losing (lol)... Hikki only asks for a fresh start as roommates and friends.
From this starting point on, things develop very unusually fast, so only bullet points up to volume 4:
o Both don't putz around cluelessly, but realize that they actually like the other very much
o Two separate confessions in both directions (Stella's is pretty amazing)
o Agree to become boyfriend/girlfriend (in secret due to Stella's position as princess)
o First requited kiss
o More than just requited kisses
o Marriage proposal accepted (still problematic, since Stella is still a princess)
Taking this as backbone to the show, the other ingredients which could otherwise simply ruin things like Ikki's yandere imouto with incestuous tendencies Shizuku, her trap companion Alice and the likes, work fine to _incite_ shenanigans, but they don't really overshadow the main couple. Which is what ruins too many other LNs of this kind, which neglect the main pairing for additional characters that I don't really care about.
So, to finish the rant: This show will have more than its share of oblivious Iknowitallafterwatching5minutes naysayers regurgitating wisdom from the cesspool blogs. And I don't give a wet fart.
Ikki is one of the most reasonable and likable MCs I know. Stella is among the most endearing tsunderederes out there and a joy to behold (and no, I'm not just talking about her ample plot). And the development of their relationship is so uncharacteristically _pleasing_ to follow that I'm going to pray that this show gets a good animation team.
So there, I'm really psyched! One of my favorite guilty pleasure shows gets a conversion! YAY :)
Meh, you summed it up quite nicely :heh:
I can't tell if you're being serious or not. :heh:
Neither can I. What he wrote is right, though. It is no harem, I think Ikki can don the 'badass' cap even though he doesn't try to be, and the show is indeed unusual in some aspects.
This series just sounds and looks like literally EVERY harem series from the past year and a half.
No harem, but yes, its genre is Ecchi Magic Fighting School. Big surprise that you'll find common elements everywhere. Naturally the same is true for every other genre, too...
I also love how there's extremely little diversity between the novel volume covers. It's like the artist is in on some joke the author doesn't get, screaming "HEY everyone! Look! MORE of the SAME!"
Smart people might be able to realize that this means that this show is not a harem after all, but that this indicates a true pairing.
All we need now is for the girl to transform into a freaking vampire fairy demon dragon when hyper-pissed, get in the inevitable "the protagonist ignored her or/and she was captured and tortured, so now she's EEEEVIIIIIIL, but his kiss + cheesy speech will save the day" episode, and we'll have FULL fucking BINGO.
Ah, snap. No Bingo, then :)
Kismet-chan
2015-03-09, 09:06
Neither can I. What he wrote is right, though. It is no harem, I think Ikki can don the 'badass' cap even though he doesn't try to be, and the show is indeed unusual in some aspects.
No harem, but yes, its genre is Ecchi Magic Fighting School. Big surprise that you'll find common elements everywhere. Naturally the same is true for every other genre, too...
Smart people might be able to realize that this means that this show is not a harem after all, but that this indicates a true pairing.
Ah, snap. No Bingo, then :)
Smart people might also realize that the majority of my post was me being facetious. :)
Minus the harem part. Fine, it's not a harem. Whatever. Genericism still persists throughout most of the rest of it at an initial glance. Keywords being "initial glance".
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2015-03-09, 09:11
In spite of the yay/nay comments, I'm personally looking forward to this adaptation.
omega253
2015-03-09, 09:42
the girl was kissed by another man who is not the protagonist?
Ehm, no. Mentar sums it up quite nicely.
I've read few manga chapters and honestly . . . It was so soul-crushingly bland. The first meeting with the heroine was totally unbearable (how many times already we've seen "MC bumps into naked heroine and punishes him in retaliation" crap?), the very concept of the Mage Knight just seem trying too hard at "being special soldiers" and made up of overused ideas seen on million times already, the expository bits were especially cringeworthy how they were cramed in the dialogues of each characters. "Failed Knight" is a nickname grating on my nerves given how easily the MC trashes the ridiculously powerful heroine. And finally, i dropped it when the MC turns out to be having "tragic past" that's forcibly shoehorned into the narrative
Well, at least you tried it. :heh:
Amiluhur
2015-03-09, 09:48
While the premise is not very original you seem to have stopped reading so early that you stopped at the premise itself and didn't even get a glimpse at the story.
Whenever i see a series, be it manga or anime, that introduces itself as such, i can always immediately realise that it's not going to do anything for me. Because let's be honest, it'll probably spend way more time cramming their content full with tedious stereotypes and tiresome clichés than dealing with narrative complexity and thematic depth. As a matter of fact, it made me jaded towards LN adaptations for quite some time.
Whenever i see a series, be it manga or anime, that introduces itself as such, i can always immediately realise that it's not going to do anything for me. Because let's be honest, it'll probably spend way more time cramming their content full with tedious stereotypes and tiresome clichés than dealing with narrative complexity and thematic depth. As a matter of fact, it made me jaded towards LN adaptations for quite some time.
In this case, I'm sure that nobody would find a statement like "This show is nothing for me" contentious. But if you word it in the form "This show is cliche crap because", then wouldn't you agree that you should first know a bit more than ~30 pages?
I'm not saying that you necessarily fall into this category, but it's an observation I made that most of those people who love to regularily denigrate shows for being "cliche" and shallow tend to have the least factual knowledge on them. They can't be bothered to find out what a show is about, so they pick up the first few obvious points and use them to "verify" their preconceived notions (which all too often turn out to be objectively wrong). And while this is still perfectly fine in the "Nothing for me" area, this is just oblivious and sloppy in the "Nothing for anyone" area. *shrug*
RnK is a member of an overbooked genre, but it has several very unusual features that _in my opinion_ lift it above the fray - for those who share my interests.
Amiluhur
2015-03-09, 10:29
^30 pages? I said in my first post that i've read few chapters of it. I was waiting til it did something interesting, which it didn't.
dexecutioner
2015-03-09, 10:41
No harem, but yes, its genre is Ecchi Magic Fighting School. Big surprise that you'll find common elements everywhere. Naturally the same is true for every other genre, too...
It's not even that Ecchi despite the heroine having big bazongas. Even the panty shots are seldom there. It's sad that people judge a series as Harem right away (Most light novels are the victim of this) just by it's covers and illustrations without thinking it just may be a marketing strategy or gimmick to lure the readers.
I hope diomadea is not gonna animate it. They've destroyed a lot of good LNs.
But I have to say lot of GA's series are getting animated... What's next Bahamut? I sure wish so.
^30 pages? I said in my first post that i've read few chapters of it. I was waiting til it did something interesting, which it didn't.
...until his backstory was thematized, you wrote, which was on page 28. *shrug*
But hey, whatever. You didn't like it, that's fine. I still do object to people claiming that it's all generic and cliche, since when it comes to characters and character development, this show is _very_ uncommon.
homohominilupus
2015-03-09, 11:46
Talk about lucky,I started reading this about a week ago and now the anime is anounced:)
Looking fowrard to this:D
Sagitta Luminis
2015-03-09, 12:24
I may be beating a dead horse here, but I am sick and tired of the cliched harem and light novels tropes. Actually, I am sick of seeing these sorts of series at all. The poor Gary Stu everybody makes fun of and call a loser, even though he is ridiculously over-powered; the way too-perfect heroine that is supposed to be really awesome, but ends up being nothing more than the MC's love interest. This entire genre is nothing but a teenager's wish fulfillment. The fact that these stories are popular and sell well enough to justify such a lunatic amounts of novels and mangas that basically tell the same story over and over again, is both amazing and depressing.
bastek66
2015-03-09, 12:26
I can't remember when last time here freshly announced anime got so much shit on so fast.
Anyway, Stella is Love
Sagitta Luminis
2015-03-09, 12:40
Just to clarify, I am not shitting on this particular adaption, as I am not familiar with either it or the source material. It very possibly could end up as a very entertaining anime, I just wanted to use this opportunity to let out my frustration at the lack of creativity in a medium that I love for its creativity.
kyuudere
2015-03-09, 12:54
Well....I never read the LN, and when I checked the manga, I think the art is good. If they managed to find a studio who can do this kind of art + nice action (and make the fan service low), it might be a decent adaptation. :heh:
Wandering Soul
2015-03-09, 12:54
Long wall of text
Thanks for summing things up pretty well.
Another series that I am following got an adaptation l.
MisaoFan
2015-03-09, 13:03
I may be beating a dead horse here, but I am sick and tired of the cliched harem and light novels tropes. Actually, I am sick of seeing these sorts of series at all. The poor Gary Stu everybody makes fun of and call a loser, even though he is ridiculously over-powered; the way too-perfect heroine that is supposed to be really awesome, but ends up being nothing more than the MC's love interest. This entire genre is nothing but a teenager's wish fulfillment. The fact that these stories are popular and sell well enough to justify such a lunatic amounts of novels and mangas that basically tell the same story over and over again, is both amazing and depressing.
Light novel isn't a genre, but a medium like manga or anime. It features a wide range of genres and stories and anime adaptation counterparts have been there since the 90s, just that they didn't become more common until lately.
Sagitta Luminis
2015-03-09, 13:08
Light novel isn't a genre, but a medium like manga or anime. It features a wide range of genres and stories and anime adaptation counterparts have been there since the 90s, just that they didn't become more common until lately.
I am very well aware of light novels and web novels being a medium, I was referring to a particular trend of light novels that have gotten quit popular in the last few years. Actually, I watched an interesting video not long ago about that very subject.
Just to clarify, I am not shitting on this particular adaption, as I am not familiar with either it or the source material. It very possibly could end up as a very entertaining anime, I just wanted to use this opportunity to let out my frustration at the lack of creativity in a medium that I love for its creativity.
May I do the same? Because just like you, who feels frustrated about a perceived lack of creativity in this genre, I am sick and tired from whiners/haters who feel it is not only their right, but even their duty to disseminate their displeasure over the fact that animes are made in a genre that they don't even like in the first place. I feel annoyed by this. I feel annoyed by the fact that nowadays you can't watch this kind of show without having at least a dozen elitist hand-wringers coming in, displaying
1) their prejudice over the anime theme/genre ("how can so many animes be made over THIS?")
2) their ignorance over the contents ("I can't be bothered to look more into this")
3) their divine verdict regardless ("this is cliche uncreative crap")
4) their superior taste
Why do you do this? Why can't you retreat into the echo chamber cesspools where this kind of dumping is appreciated and rewarded? Look at the site name: Animesuki. Loving anime. Why don't you go to those threads where you can find anime you love, instead of loitering around in those threads of anime you dislike, while annoying those people around who do?
If you have substantial criticism on this thread's show, please say so by all means. But if not, then what's the point in walking into a gay bar yelling "GOD I REALLY HATE THIS FAGGOTRY"?
Sagitta Luminis
2015-03-09, 14:25
May I do the same? Because just like you, who feels frustrated about a perceived lack of creativity in this genre, I am sick and tired from whiners/haters who feel it is not only their right, but even their duty to disseminate their displeasure over the fact that animes are made in a genre that they don't even like in the first place. I feel annoyed by this. I feel annoyed by the fact that nowadays you can't watch this kind of show without having at least a dozen elitist hand-wringers coming in, displaying
1) their prejudice over the anime theme/genre ("how can so many animes be made over THIS?")
2) their ignorance over the contents ("I can't be bothered to look more into this")
3) their divine verdict regardless ("this is cliche uncreative crap")
4) their superior taste
Why do you do this? Why can't you retreat into the echo chamber cesspools where this kind of dumping is appreciated and rewarded? Look at the site name: Animesuki. Loving anime. Why don't you go to those threads where you can find anime you love, instead of loitering around in those threads of anime you dislike, while annoying those people around who do?
If you have substantial criticism on this thread's show, please say so by all means. But if not, then what's the point in walking into a gay bar yelling "GOD I REALLY HATE THIS FAGGOTRY"?
Wow, no need to be so salty over this. Especially when I'm trying to be civil.
My problem is not that this genre exist, if people like it then I'm glad they can find enjoyment in something The real problem is the lack of diversity. This is definitely not the only fandom suffering from the syndrome of when something gets popular a gazillion copies start popping out after the smell of fresh cash and overflow the market. IE first person shooters.
Kismet-chan
2015-03-09, 15:41
I keep trying to find some unique way to respond, but Sagitta pretty much summed up all my feelings on that subject. :heh:
AnimeFangirl
2015-03-09, 15:52
There are modern-day magicians called Mage-Knights. Although Kurogane Ikki is a student at an institution that trains Mage-Knights, he has no particular talent in magic and is labeled the "Failure Knight" or "Worst One." Getting way less than average marks in the scorings, he was forced to repeat a year. But with the arrival of a new head of the institution, a new rule was created: knights whose abilities are compatible, as decided by the board, must share rooms and attend practice and training together throughout their school years to bring up their abilities to the max. It is a rule to implement the absolute verdict of ability.
Ikki’s roommate, Stella Vermillion, turns out to be a princess of another foreign country. Stella is a Rank A knight: the type of genius in magic who only appears once a decade. When Ikki walked in on her while she was changing her clothes, it caused a huge misunderstanding (since neither yet knew of the new rule) which eventually ended up in a duel between the two of them. The punishment (or as some might see it, the prize) of the losing side is Eternal Submission to the winning side.
Forced to live the same room and practice magic together throughout all their school years, how will Stella and Ikki’s relationship evolve?
This sounds like a combination of Absolute Duo and every "hero supposedly sucks but is actually overpowered" series ever. Does this bring anything new to the table? At all?
Wow, no need to be so salty over this. Especially when I'm trying to be civil.
You may be trying to be civil, but what you are doing is still flat-out annoying to many people.
This sounds like a combination of Absolute Duo and every "hero supposedly sucks but is actually overpowered" series ever. Does this bring anything new to the table? At all?
Is there really anything "new" anywhere anymore?
The characters and character development are very much atypical. For details see here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5462530#post5462530)
GreyZone
2015-03-09, 18:00
Calling Rakudai "cliché" makes as much sense as calling Log Horizon a "Sword Art Online rip-off", i.e. most people who get such an impression, only superficially look at the series and dismiss it.
Well it's not surprising, as it happens all the time lately and, sadly, it is more often true than not, though relying on such statistical tendencies too much leads to unjustified prejudice, as we can see in this thread.
Marcus H.
2015-03-09, 20:04
Well, this reveals a lot about the current state of the light novel industry AND the anime series they churn out.
Let's see. Maybe this shows up in my Light Novel Challenge. If the anime once again lacks polish like in Absolute Duo and World Break, I'll happily drop this.
Shinji103
2015-03-09, 21:13
Well color me intrigued. What I'm hearing from the people who've actually read the novel is pretty good, and the only real complaints I'm seeing are from people who haven't even read it. Buy me a ticket to this show.
On the matter of the complaints, it does get tiring to see people taking one look at the premise and judging it without knowing anything more. I certainly won't deny that there's a large number of anime out there that fall into a pattern that could even be called "cliche," but how will you spot the ones that don't fall into this group if you just dismiss everything that comes across your desk?
So really, we could do without the judging-without-watching statements. We already have enough trolling hater-blogs out there like Seventhstyle. In the meantime, mark this down for my "definitely check out" list.
AnimeFangirl
2015-03-09, 22:27
The characters and character development are very much atypical. For details see here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5462530#post5462530)
Oya oya oya? He actually gets the girl, sort of?
A shoujo anime disguised as a harem magical school series? That... has potential... depending on how quickly they get to that point. Okay, will move series from 'Absolutely will not watch' to 'Will try one episode.'
LG-MAX 2.o
2015-03-09, 22:33
I read the 12 chapters of manga, and I can say that is not the crap that I thought it was, to be honest, the protagonist does not need a harem, Stela offers him help in all areas, even in the emotional, and the coolest is that the two are friends, she's not a bitch or annoying tsundere.
the his fighting style is incredible, it is and you can easily get attached to him, I will read the light novel, something I did not make a series a long time.
of course, I only spoke of the good parts.
Shinji103
2015-03-09, 22:59
Oya oya oya? He actually gets the girl, sort of?
A shoujo anime disguised as a harem magical school series? That... has potential... depending on how quickly they get to that point. Okay, will move series from 'Absolutely will not watch' to 'Will try one episode.'Why does romance = shoujo? Lots of anime have romance and the MC getting together with the girl, and they certainly aren't all shoujo. Not that I have anything against shoujo, mind you.
And just fyi, if one episode were enough to determine the quality of a whole series, that would be a problem in itself.
Even if the source material is good I really doubt the adaptation would do it justice considering the track record of similar adaptations in the last couple of years. It really depends on whether it's 1 or 2 cours and what studio is handling it.
Well, this reveals a lot about the current state of the light novel industry AND the anime series they churn out.
Let's see. Maybe this shows up in my Light Novel Challenge. If the anime once again lacks polish like in Absolute Duo and World Break, I'll happily drop this.
Not really. There's plenty of diversity in LNs, the problem is that the majority of them are untranslated or don't get adaptions.
Most of the people saying they have no diversity probably don't even know series like Biblia koshodou exists nor how much it sells.
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 03:04
Not really. There's plenty of diversity in LNs, the problem is that the majority of them are untranslated or don't get adaptions.
Most of the people saying they have no diversity probably don't even know series like Biblia koshodou exists nor how much it sells.
Don't worry, I know the Biblia series. That's not gonna change the fact that Biblia still has no anime while some others get this rather paradoxical privilege.
Amiluhur
2015-03-10, 03:10
I find its mainly the smaller studios that depend heavily on these to try to turn at least a minor profit. Its pretty sad, but most studios still just lack the resources and planning to do any better. Not every studio can be like Sunrise or I.G and adapt more high-tier source material and oftentimes diverse IPs for all audiences. A lot of the anime industry is sadly just a matter of fighting over table scraps from the LN market in the hopes of landing that one surprise 7-10K hit like a NoGameNoLife or Yahari Love Comedy
I really don't see how mentar is the salty one, if anything it's the guy coming into this thread crying about a lack of creativity (implying anime is creative... L O L) in mai animu's that salty...
Don't worry, I know the Biblia series. That's not gonna change the fact that Biblia still has no anime while some others get this rather paradoxical privilege.
Doesn't Biblia have (or about to have) live action movies? That's not exactly a consolation prize. It's not like Biblia needs a low budget one cour anime to promote itself....
Is there really anything "new" anywhere anymore?
People see new stuff all the time! (only because they didn't watch/read stuff that did it before....)
So I heard that apparently the Axis powers won WW2 in this alternate timeline. So how does that work exactly? Does this mean there are Jews in the background setting getting murdered in concentration camps or are they all already extinct?
Oya oya oya? He actually gets the girl, sort of?
A shoujo anime disguised as a harem magical school series? That... has potential... depending on how quickly they get to that point. Okay, will move series from 'Absolutely will not watch' to 'Will try one episode.'
Well, obviously "that point" will take a bit longer than episode 1. But if you really want to know the speed of the progression.
Again, this is MEGA spoiler area, only proceed if you REALLY don't mind to be spoiled
Presuming normal speed (4 eps per volume), I would expect this:
o Stella is at his throat in ep1 (understandably though)
o She will be taken aback and curious at the beginning of ep2, and on a friendship level end of ep2
o She will be angry/jealous at him in ep3 (again, for a good reason), and he'll be heartbroken over her reaction
o She will have an _amazing_ scene which amounts to a public confession in ep4, rekindling his spirit in a crisis
o He will do one of the smoothest, and most genuine counter-confessions evah in ep4
o They end volume 1 as (secret) couple, sealed with a kiss on his cheek
o During volume 2, after some initial mutual frustration about lack of progress between each other, they correct the placement of the kisses. Relationship solidifies.
o From volume 3, I'll only list one scene. Stella is slightly feverish, but fully aware. This warrants another spoiler level, because this is NSFW. It also demonstrates the kind of person Ikki is.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/1/13/Rakudai_Vol_3_Color_3.jpg/800px-Rakudai_Vol_3_Color_3.jpg
"Hey Ikki… do you want to… do it with me?"
Ikki's eventual response: "Stella, I love you, and I want to say so proudly in front of everyone. Shizuku and Alice of course, and even people we don't know… even Stella's parents. I think these feelings inside me are the most wonderful emotions. But… if our relationship changes like this right now, I think I would feel guilty in front of your parents. I think I should stand proudly in front of them."
Both Stella and Ikki had mature bodies. It wasn't like there was any fear of what others might think. But still―Ikki thought there was a proper procedure for such important things. Stella was a precious treasure raised by her parents. If he would get involved, he had to at least greet them. He thought that was rather expected of a man.
[... some parts omitted for brevity ...]
Suddenly, Stella entwined her fingers with Ikki's. She gave a firm smile with her feverish expression.
"I said something strange, and bothered you to think about it so seriously. Sorry."
She apologized to Ikki. That expression was feverish and hot, but it wasn't just from illness.
「I love you, and I want to say so proudly in front of everyone.」
…He thought of me that importantly….
In truth, Stella hadn't been thinking of Ikki as much as he had been thinking of her. Stella had only been looking only at Ikki in front of her, but Ikki had been looking toward the people in her background, as well as keeping the relationship between them going into the future in mind as well.
It―made her very happy. Because he was thinking so seriously about their relationship, treating it as something important.
I say that, but… what was I doing!?
Just by taking off her clothes a little, from getting a little excited, she had forgotten her chastity. Not just today. It kept happening recently. A unicorn would shun such a maiden.
Ikki is more like a maiden, isn't he?
In other words, yes, there is significant, fast development. Do _not_ judge Stella merely on episode 1, where she will initially seem like every other run-of-the-mill tsundere due to her anger. From episode 2 on, you'll quickly realize that she is very different (and actually, pretty amazing)
Haak: The WW2 aspect plays exactly _zero_ role as far as I've read (up to vol3). Some people just looooove to stir the sh*tpot.
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 03:44
^ To be fair, though, if that doesn't have any importance, why even add that to the concept of the story?
^ To be fair, though, if that doesn't have any importance, why even add that to the concept of the story?
Where is the problem in a fictional story? Essentially, the only time this was even mentioned was to introduce a national hero ("guiding Japan to victory in WW2"). That is all. The story makes no attempt of revisionist history or something.
One either has to be completely clueless or really malicious to bring this up as a point against the show.
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 04:45
Okay, no need to be fired up, Mentar. I read the first chapter and it seems like it's good enough (about at the level of Absolute Duo's manga, I guess).
Okay, no need to be fired up, Mentar. I read the first chapter and it seems like it's good enough (about at the level of Absolute Duo's manga, I guess).
Oh, that was not aimed at you, sorry if I gave this impression ^_^;
I'm referring to the 4ch thread I've seen. A place I usually avoid like the plague, for a good reason.
The 48th Ronin
2015-03-10, 07:02
Just finished the first 2 volumes recently and it's already having an anime? Talk about luck.
Looking forward to this.
omega253
2015-03-10, 10:01
Oh, that was not aimed at you, sorry if I gave this impression ^_^;
I'm referring to the 4ch thread I've seen. A place I usually avoid like the plague, for a good reason.
You saw it too, right? The anons are hung up on the 'generic' summary and the whole 'Japan won WW2' thing.
I guess people can see this as generic, but can't they at least give it the 3-episode rule? :heh:
That said, I only hope that when the first episode comes, some of the viewers will admit that they were wrong about their expectations.
Stark700
2015-03-10, 13:49
Site is up now
http://www.ittoshura.com/
How much do you guys want to bet that the main character is voiced by Kirito's VA and Stella is voiced by Yoko Hikasa?:heh:
Miraluka
2015-03-10, 19:52
Studio seems to be IMS.
dexecutioner
2015-03-10, 20:18
Studio seems to be IMS.
Please don't say that T.T
Shinmai was kinda meh Budget-wise(even the first episode)
GreyZone
2015-03-10, 20:19
Studio seems to be IMS.
Mind to post the source?
And is it Cavalry or Chivalry? I always though it was Chivalry, but the homepage/twitter used "Cavalry" as a hashtag... so confusing...
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 20:33
Shinmai was kinda meh Budget-wise(even the first episode)
Really? It looked much crisper compared to Twintails, Absolute Duo and World Break.
Mind to post the source?
Domain of the website seems to be from IMS.
And is it Cavalry or Chivalry? I always though it was Chivalry, but the homepage/twitter used "Cavalry" as a hashtag... so confusing...
Original Japanese title has "kyabaruri" (cavalry).
ImperialFlameGod8190
2015-03-10, 20:53
Really? It looked much crisper compared to Twintails, Absolute Duo and World Break.
That doesnt do me many favors since Duo and World Break are utterly horrendous i've never seen Twintails but from what i could tell its doing zero favors
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 22:30
I was talking about the art quality, not the story. :eyebrow:
ImperialFlameGod8190
2015-03-10, 22:33
^well if u wanna talk art quality its still not great for both as far as im concerned
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 22:38
Oh screw that. If you're daring me to do some comparisons, I'm not doing it.
Studio seems to be IMS.
Looks like we're in for some QUALITY.
Marcus H.
2015-03-10, 22:52
IMS was better in Shinmai Maou than Twintails, which looked like some scenes were done in MS Paint. Still, that's a main concern for many, because we don't know if their next series would be Twintail'd too.
MisaoFan
2015-03-11, 04:39
Please don't say that T.T
Shinmai was kinda meh Budget-wise(even the first episode)
Inari Konkon Koi Iroha is the only series that have the best production values from the studio and that's only their first work, everything else sucks in comparison (especially Gonna be the Twintails). Hope the budget for their new series look more in line with Inari than the rest. Anyone else agreed with me?
LG-MAX 2.o
2015-03-11, 05:29
Well, obviously "that point" will take a bit longer than episode 1. But if you really want to know the speed of the progression.
Again, this is MEGA spoiler area, only proceed if you REALLY don't mind to be spoiled
Presuming normal speed (4 eps per volume), I would expect this:
o Stella is at his throat in ep1 (understandably though)
o She will be taken aback and curious at the beginning of ep2, and on a friendship level end of ep2
o She will be angry/jealous at him in ep3 (again, for a good reason), and he'll be heartbroken over her reaction
o She will have an _amazing_ scene which amounts to a public confession in ep4, rekindling his spirit in a crisis
o He will do one of the smoothest, and most genuine counter-confessions evah in ep4
o They end volume 1 as (secret) couple, sealed with a kiss on his cheek
o During volume 2, after some initial mutual frustration about lack of progress between each other, they correct the placement of the kisses. Relationship solidifies.
o From volume 3, I'll only list one scene. Stella is slightly feverish, but fully aware. This warrants another spoiler level, because this is NSFW. It also demonstrates the kind of person Ikki is.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/1/13/Rakudai_Vol_3_Color_3.jpg/800px-Rakudai_Vol_3_Color_3.jpg
"Hey Ikki… do you want to… do it with me?"
Ikki's eventual response: "Stella, I love you, and I want to say so proudly in front of everyone. Shizuku and Alice of course, and even people we don't know… even Stella's parents. I think these feelings inside me are the most wonderful emotions. But… if our relationship changes like this right now, I think I would feel guilty in front of your parents. I think I should stand proudly in front of them."
Both Stella and Ikki had mature bodies. It wasn't like there was any fear of what others might think. But still―Ikki thought there was a proper procedure for such important things. Stella was a precious treasure raised by her parents. If he would get involved, he had to at least greet them. He thought that was rather expected of a man.
[... some parts omitted for brevity ...]
Suddenly, Stella entwined her fingers with Ikki's. She gave a firm smile with her feverish expression.
"I said something strange, and bothered you to think about it so seriously. Sorry."
She apologized to Ikki. That expression was feverish and hot, but it wasn't just from illness.
「I love you, and I want to say so proudly in front of everyone.」
…He thought of me that importantly….
In truth, Stella hadn't been thinking of Ikki as much as he had been thinking of her. Stella had only been looking only at Ikki in front of her, but Ikki had been looking toward the people in her background, as well as keeping the relationship between them going into the future in mind as well.
It―made her very happy. Because he was thinking so seriously about their relationship, treating it as something important.
I say that, but… what was I doing!?
Just by taking off her clothes a little, from getting a little excited, she had forgotten her chastity. Not just today. It kept happening recently. A unicorn would shun such a maiden.
Ikki is more like a maiden, isn't he?
In other words, yes, there is significant, fast development. Do _not_ judge Stella merely on episode 1, where she will initially seem like every other run-of-the-mill tsundere due to her anger. From episode 2 on, you'll quickly realize that she is very different (and actually, pretty amazing)
Haak: The WW2 aspect plays exactly _zero_ role as far as I've read (up to vol3). Some people just looooove to stir the sh*tpot.
Indeed, Stella is cool, that surprised me.
AnimeFangirl
2015-03-11, 06:47
Why does romance = shoujo? Lots of anime have romance and the MC getting together with the girl, and they certainly aren't all shoujo. Not that I have anything against shoujo, mind you.
And just fyi, if one episode were enough to determine the quality of a whole series, that would be a problem in itself.
Romance is not equal to shoujo, but these we love each other but we can't be together because I'm this and you're that plots are very common in shoujo, hence the comment.
And just fyi, if one episode were enough to determine the quality of a whole series, that would be a problem in itself.
Episode 1 just has to be good enough to get me to watch episode 2. Episode 2 should make me watch 3. 3 -> 4. And on and on till the end. That's my anime-watching style.
Haak: The WW2 aspect plays exactly _zero_ role as far as I've read (up to vol3). Some people just looooove to stir the sh*tpot.
It's not really about that (though it would've been bad if it was). I just couldn't help but find the Unfortunate Implications a little amusing. It's just a little bit strange to have a nice escapist fantasy world full of magic and comedy hijinks and then get a random "Hitler probably won" moment. I'm sure it's no big deal or anything, though it doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence in me when it comes to its world building.
In any case I just read the first two chapters of the manga and...yeah it is pretty generic and predictable. But there is a little potential to it so maybe I'll see how it goes. It probably isn't going to be the next TAMNI I've been waiting for but I can always hope (Although one person did tell me I made a mistake in dropping Tokyo Ravens...)
GreyZone
2015-03-11, 08:33
It's not really about that (though it would've been bad if it was). I just couldn't help but find the Unfortunate Implications a little amusing. It's just a little bit strange to have a nice escapist fantasy world full of magic and comedy hijinks and then get a random "Hitler probably won" moment. I'm sure it's no big deal or anything, though it doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence in me when it comes to its world building.
You should consider the fact that the Magic Knight "Blazers" existed before the war (and we don't even know how long before that), so it is VERY likely that history diverged long before that, including the participants in the war. As far as I read (middle of vol. 2) Germany was not even once mentioned. It's likely that even Japan's role in it may have been different in this alternate history.
Marcus H.
2015-03-11, 08:38
They should have gone for a World War II where fights are between Blazers.
That would have been fun.
Miraluka
2015-03-12, 20:27
Inari Konkon Koi Iroha is the only series that have the best production values from the studio and that's only their first work, everything else sucks in comparison (especially Gonna be the Twintails). Hope the budget for their new series look more in line with Inari than the rest. Anyone else agreed with me?
Isn't a budget issue but a time management issue on their shedules.
Like it's known, IMS was working on Shinmai while they're supposed to be doing Twintails.
The group split up after Inari Kon Kon, so we can probably think of Date-A-Live II as the real start of IMS in terms of its current (and likely intended) structure.
Aldnoah Zero has monopolized much of the talent on Inari, including subcontracted studios (AIC, acca effe, Kelmadick).
dexecutioner
2015-03-14, 02:12
The group split up after Inari Kon Kon, so we can probably think of Date-A-Live II as the real start of IMS in terms of its current (and likely intended) structure.
Aldnoah Zero has monopolized much of the talent on Inari, including subcontracted studios (AIC, acca effe, Kelmadick).
I thought IMS used to be AIC ASTA? Since they did the SnO movie. And ASTA is known for having inconsistent quality. Which is why Twintails and Shinmai are like that.
Getting off topic though. I really hope they follow the LN and don't add unnecessary ecchi scenes.
I thought IMS used to be AIC ASTA? Since they did the SnO movie. And ASTA is known for having inconsistent quality. Which is why Twintails and Shinmai are like that.
The history of AIC is rather complicated since they reorganized several times and played loosely with branding.
I guess the best way to put it is that the producers responsible for AIC's later output (maybe from around 2009-2013) run Production IMS. One of them was originally in charge of the old AIC ASTA, which took three forms:
a satellite team in Nishitokyo (everything up to and including Bamboo Blade; technically the early stages of Oreimo as well until the first episode was finished)
a new team in Nerima (first season of SnO; I think Sunred as well, but I can't verify this)
a reorganized version of the Nerima team under new management (SnO S2, Campanella, Jinrui, Aura, Persona). Essentially, the SnO S1 group split three ways and were distributed among AIC Build, AIC Classic, and AIC ASTA.
This IMS producer managed the first two, but not the third, which was eventually absorbed into A-1 Pictures almost wholesale.
rladls2121
2015-03-15, 02:29
I have to watch this.
The fact "Japan won World War 2" is one of the reasons for this.
Light Novel, Anime, Manga and "Japan won World War 2".
This existence meaning, just what is this mixed feeling?
This kind of genre really interests me.
Anime is anime and light novel is light novel but mixed in with some parts of reality.
It also show tiny parts of the country's attitudes at the same time.
Did someone says wish fulfilling?
Yes, we all wishes for many things, whether good or bad.
The important part is that if "Japan won World War 2", then what is this series outcome of it?
It also leaves me wondering how the author put this kind of thought, but his/her actual feelings is.
But why World War 2 topic has to come in?
Again the biggest reasons watch it, and eventually how will the author ends the story writing the novel?
Someone who said IMS did better on Testament series than Twintail series.
To me, it is unfortunate.
Not many people love Twintail series, as someone said only just by watching anime PV or was it the gender bendering part.
The series wasn't mainly about gender bendering though.
Gender bendering part is just because of Twirl and her Little-Girls attribute, which that part was cut off in anime, unfortunate.
I have to watch this.
The fact "Japan won World War 2" is one of the reasons for this.
Light Novel, Anime, Manga and "Japan won World War 2".
This existence meaning, just what is this mixed feeling?
iirc, the fact that they won was just briefly mentioned. Its not like it matter to the current plot. I may be wrong(just read until half of 2 vol)
rladls2121
2015-03-15, 02:57
Just briefly mentioned, yes that's the point.
It has to be mentioned.
I do not know why, but author has to mention it for some reason.
The meaning behind of "Japan won World War 2".
For some others, that existence itself is maybe a scar from the past.
Although older generation does not read or watch these things so maybe not really a problem for younger generation, at most I think.
My selfish conclusion:
When it comes to this topic, things are not really bright no matter which perspective it comes from.
But just by mentioning this topic as a part of the fictional plot for this kind of series is really easy to mention for someone that is looking at the past dark history too lightly.
Im looking forward to it.
bastek66
2015-03-15, 07:03
That part about Japan winning WW2 makes many people asspained.
MisaoFan
2015-03-15, 07:30
That part about Japan winning WW2 makes many people asspained.
How so? I don't see how people (outside of Japan and maybe rest of East Asia I mean) can be frustrated over a part of Japanese history they don't really know about regardless of right wing problems and the like?
How so? I don't see how people (outside of Japan and maybe rest of East Asia I mean) can be frustrated over a part of Japanese history they don't really know about regardless of right wing problems and the like?
The invasion of Normandy excepted, for many Americans, WWII is remembered more for the war with Japan than the war in Europe. Japan blindsided us with the attack on Pearl Harbor. The battles across the Pacific were hard and long-fought. The idea that Japan won WWII can give Americans a jolt. It did to me.
Marcus H.
2015-03-15, 09:28
To me, I wonder why the author had to add that particular detail when it didn't really bring anything new to the story itself. They can just take out that WWII shit and no one would bat an eyelid.
GreyZone
2015-03-15, 10:18
The invasion of Normandy excepted, for many Americans, WWII is remembered more for the war with Japan than the war in Europe. Japan blindsided us with the attack on Pearl Harbor. The battles across the Pacific were hard and long-fought. The idea that Japan won WWII can give Americans a jolt. It did to me.
Except in real life there were no Sword Magicans who fought during the war. The most important fact is that they did exist BEFORE the war, which means that history diverged long before this. For all we know, South Africa may be the country that started WW2 in this alternate history... and Japan may be part of the "Allies". Fact is, there is no proof either way, but people jump to conclusions immdietly.
Except in real life there were no Sword Magicans who fought during the war. The most important fact is that they did exist BEFORE the war, which means that history diverged long before this. For all we know, South Africa may be the country that started WW2 in this alternate history... and Japan may be part of the "Allies". Fact is, there is no proof either way, but people jump to conclusions immdietly.
Just to be clear, I have no problems with alternative history stories. I quite like them, in fact. I'm just stating that my initial reaction to the single statement "Japan won WWII" was to take a mental step back and say "Oh?"
rladls2121
2015-03-15, 14:03
Like you said, LKK, alternative history also intrigues me too.
Of course I do not know how much the author fully grasps his own country's past, present, and futures.
And then just by looking at how other surrounded countries influenced because of Japan.
As we read and watch this series, we'll see and of course some people already saw the creators of this series attitudes and sincere feelings towards their own country's history.
But most of all, the female characters and which leads to male main funny misunderstandings.
Well, the novel was meant to be read by japanese readers, so if that affect american readers, I guess that doesnt mean a lot to the author. Iirc, they won because the ancestor of the mc and the magic/power he had was super op, its not like they won because he said they won and thats it.
rladls2121
2015-03-15, 14:30
Japanese readers are of course are Japanese readers.
That's right, in reality some Japanese old ancestors are being looked down and pointed finger at because of something they did.
With this one of the novels, even though it leads to misunderstanding it might encourages some Japanese to be more proud of their ancestors.
But if that's the problem then things are actually for the better.
However for Japanese readers, they might have to deal with how their ancestors honors will be tainted just because of what happened in the past in reality.
Some are unnecessarily grudges, and some are rather reasonable.
But grudges are still grudges that makes relationship loosing the bonds between countries that they weaved.
Yes, the Japanese readers, or should I say just novel readers, the future they want, I wonder how will they create their world just by imagining those areas?
Zangor17
2015-03-15, 21:42
happy this is getting an anime. my only question is when will it air? this year or next?Really looking forward to this.
happy this is getting an anime. my only question is when will it air? this year or next?Really looking forward to this.
I'd mark it for Fall at the earliest.
bastek66
2015-03-19, 00:02
Either Summer or Winter cause Shinmai2 is set on Fall.
The 48th Ronin
2015-03-19, 03:37
Wait, is it already certain that IMS will produce this?
Wait, is it already certain that IMS will produce this?
Some mention has been made about domain name registration (domain names for the IMS and Shinmai websites were registered through the same company, GMO Internet), but it may be coincidence.
A search indicates that Frontier Works actually registered the name. Furthermore, the company previously secured YuriKuma.jp through GMO, so I'd hesitate to suggest a connection to IMS.
MisaoFan
2015-05-10, 07:51
Key visual announced:
http://moca-news.net/article/20150510/2015051021000a_/image002.html
Director: Shin Oonuma
Series Director: Hitoshi Tamamura
Series Composition: Shougo Yasukawa
Character Designer: Sei Komatsubara
Sound Director: Jin Aketagawa
Animation Production: Silver Link, Nexus
GreyZone
2015-05-10, 07:56
Key visual announced:
-snip-
Director: Shin Oonuma
Series Director: Hitoshi Tamamura
Series Composition: Shougo Yasukawa
Character Designer: Komatsubara Sei
Sound Director: Jin Aketagawa
Animation Production: Silver Link, Nexus
Silver link? Oh yea! It's not IMS what a relief! May I ask what the source for the info is?
MisaoFan
2015-05-10, 08:01
Silver link? Oh yea! It's not IMS what a relief! May I ask what the source for the info is?
There, the link:
http://moca-news.net/article/20150510/2015051021000a_/01/
Nachtwandler
2015-05-10, 08:06
Silver Link is extremely busy recently. Hope they don't overwork themselves.
GreyZone
2015-05-10, 08:14
There, the link:
http://moca-news.net/article/20150510/2015051021000a_/01/
Thank you.
Marcus H.
2015-05-10, 08:41
Series Director: Hitoshi Tamamura (only known work is director of Non Non Biyori episode 5)
Series Composition: Shougo Yasukawa (series composition in Shokugeki no Souma, also works in several J.C. Staff productions)
Character Designer: Komatsubara Sei (also an experienced key animator in many series)
Sound Director: Jin Aketagawa (very experienced sound director)
Animation Production: Silver Link, Nexus (Nexus assists in the production of some notable anime, like Prisma Illya S1, Mahouka, Saekano and others)
Nachtwandler
2015-05-10, 09:03
Hitoshi Tamamura
He is more known because of Koutetsu no Vendetta project that had a good potential but was caught in development hell.
MisaoFan
2015-05-10, 09:27
He is more known because of Koutetsu no Vandetta project that had a good potential but was caught in development hell.
He was also the series director behind Invaders of the Rokujouma!? recently.
wow i wasnt expecting silver link since they already work soo hard how many is that so far for this year? 6 now. i really wish they would turn some more sequels, like strike the blood! please...but hey this looks good as well they have a better handle of harem then most studios that produce only harem. Wow Shin Oonuma is doing this its probably going to be great. He has done really good work over the years im glad.
The VAs for Ikki, Stella, Shizuku and Arisu.
Ikki - Ryōta Ōsaka
Stella - Shizuka Ishigami
Shizuku - Nao Tōyama
Arisu - Shintarō Asanuma
P.s. the visual looks nice. :D
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2015-05-10, 10:52
So Akito from OniAi, Mai from Cardfight Vanguard, CHITOGE of all people from Nisekoi, and Crow from Yugioh 5Ds huh? 'Tis will be a very interesting series indeed.
GreyZone
2015-05-10, 10:59
wow i wasnt expecting silver link since they already work soo hard how many is that so far for this year? 6 now. i really wish they would turn some more sequels, like strike the blood! please...but hey this looks good as well they have a better handle of harem then most studios that produce only harem. Wow Shin Oonuma is doing this its probably going to be great. He has done really good work over the years im glad.
This series is not part of the harem genre though.
This series is not part of the harem genre though.
rly? lol mb well i meant light novel adaptions mb ive been writting on several different topics
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max1000x1500/encyc/A17062-2667562532.1431264433.jpg
Visual looks good!
CrowKenobi
2015-05-10, 11:18
bakato, you might want to upload the image to an image hosting site since ANN will eventually enforce their no hotlink policy.
RaymondSageClark
2015-05-10, 11:21
rly? lol mb well i meant light novel adaptions mb ive been writting on several different topics
Rakudai is one of those LN's with a few harem elements but if you read it you can see how this is not a harem. That's the main reason why the main source is so good, also MC is not a betafag like 90% of the series out there and Stella is a miracle of the universe.
Frontier
2015-05-10, 12:37
Why is IMS hated?
Likely because quite a few of their adaptions have suffered from QUALITY or off-model animation, and people were worried that would likely happen to Rakudai if it were to be adapted by them :uhoh:.
wow i wasnt expecting silver link since they already work soo hard how many is that so far for this year? 6 now.
For greater output, there seems to be increasing reliance on a co-production model.
RaymondSageClark
2015-05-10, 12:57
Why is IMS hated?
Because every single adaptation they make is literally BUY THE BD'S! also they focus on fanservice and cut tons of information from the main source.
MisaoFan
2015-05-10, 14:13
Because every single adaptation they make is literally BUY THE BD'S! also they focus on fanservice and cut tons of information from the main source.
Inari Konkon Koi Iroha is the only exception to the rule then.
I hope when the anime airs the people realize that does not have harem tropes as some making out to be them label it as harem/ ecchi. I feel like there so hate for it.
I hope when the anime airs the people realize that does not have harem tropes as some making out to be them label it as harem/ ecchi. I feel like there so hate for it.
once all the hate is gone u usually see ppl discussing how much they enjoy it
it happens every season
ImperialFlameGod8190
2015-05-10, 16:22
I hope when the anime airs the people realize that does not have harem tropes as some making out to be them label it as harem/ ecchi. I feel like there so hate for it.
People dont harem/ecchi TV shows its the characters more specifically the males that they usually hate. I mean seriously every guy has imagined a harem once or twice and since u rarely see a character that deserves a harem its a big time pain.
GreyZone
2015-05-10, 16:28
People dont hate harem/ecchi TV shows its the characters more specifically the males that they usually hate. I mean seriously every guy has imagined a harem once or twice and since u rarely see a character that deserves a harem its a big time pain.
That's true to some extent. I still remember how I hoped that Rito gets some development in the to-love-ru manga... I gave up in early to-love-ru darkness and wish I could have gotten my time back...
That's true to some extent. I still remember how I hoped that Rito gets some development in the to-love-ru manga... I gave up in early to-love-ru darkness and wish I could have gotten my time back...
damn to love ru is part of the ecchi/harem holy trinity with sora no otoshimono and dxd
personally i love harems the MC doesnt bother me since i only pay attention to the countless of females anyways lol
GreyZone
2015-05-10, 17:52
damn to love ru is part of the ecchi/harem holy trinity with sora no otoshimono and dxd
personally i love harems the MC doesnt bother me since i only pay attention to the countless of females anyways lol
To give an example of what I hoped from it: Something like Rosario+Vampire (manga only). The main character also started as an complete wimp and idiot, however he actually made progress throughout the story and has aspirations of not just relying on the females all the time, but to fight side-by-side with them. Compared to that Rito was just (unwillingly) gathering a harem. Why did the girls fall in love? Because "he is kind". Even in the Ecchi department to-love-ru failed. After 100 times of tripping to cause an Ecchi situation it stops being funny and no, being self-conscious about Rito's "luck" does not excuse another 1000 times of tripping over invisible objects. But maybe I am just incompatible with this kind of gag-manga.
Anyways, I am looking forward to Rakudai mostly because it deconstructs it's own genre quite a bit. At first it seems like "another generic magic high-school ecchi battle harem series", but then the unexpected things happen one after another: no harem, no un-foreshadowed asspull power ups, the MC is not "inherently special by birth", actual relationship progress in the first volume without the MC stalling his "decision" for 10 or so volumes, etc.
Even the very first scene which is basically the MC running into the typical "entering a room with a girl changing" is resolved in quite an original way instead of the usual "kya!!!!! *bloody violence by female character*". Instead the reaction is quite a bit more natural and less over-the-top comical (ok, maybe it is over-the-top comical, but still...).
I can't wait for this series to air!
Zangor17
2015-05-10, 23:33
visuals look good. I like Silver Link's animation style and they do good work so really looking forward to this one.
The 48th Ronin
2015-05-12, 20:21
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max1000x1500/encyc/A17062-2667562532.1431264433.jpg
Visual looks good!
This just strengthens the hype. :D
Stark700
2015-05-15, 11:46
Promo video:
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Shinji103
2015-05-15, 11:58
Bah, nothing but novel illustrations so far. Nothing to hype about yet.
"A Tale Of Worst One"? Really?
once all the hate is gone u usually see ppl discussing how much they enjoy it
it happens every season
i realize best to ignore them these type of show will away be made no matter how much westerners think.
anyway I'm getting a ef a tale of memories feel with the animation.
RaymondSageClark
2015-05-15, 13:23
Meh, that PV doesn't show anything. We must need to wait until the real designs.
blitz1/2
2015-05-15, 17:41
Ah, Toyama as an imouto, this will be nice.
AceTrigger
2015-05-19, 03:10
I just caught up with the manga ver. and I'm definitely impressed.
First couple of episodes will probably receive some criticisms but after that, people are going to love this show.
Marcus H.
2015-05-19, 03:19
We're also in good (and very stylish!) hands with Shin Oonuma on the credits list.
We'll definitely see his influence on the show as soon as we see the first PV with footage.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2015-05-19, 14:41
I know about the one on the right, the smoker, but can anyone tell me about the creepy kid and the maiden? Are they ok or evil?
I know about the one on the right, the smoker, but can anyone tell me about the creepy kid and the maiden? Are they ok or evil?
Those are
Members of the Hagun Academy student council.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2015-05-20, 08:01
Those are
Members of the Hagun Academy student council.
I know that, thanks though. But since the preview showed them specifically out of all of them, just wanted to ask if their roles will be as influential as the person of the right.
I know that, thanks though. But since the preview showed them specifically out of all of them, just wanted to ask if their roles will be as influential as the person of the right.
Not sure if they're influential enough on the plot but one of them will compete in the Seven Star Sword Art Festival.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2015-05-20, 16:45
Well, one thing is certain, I don't trust the smoker and the crazy shrimp. As for the maiden, meh, she's eye candy so she'll be tolerable for a while.
The anime will be aired on October 2015. :)
Izayoi Sakamaki
2015-06-29, 10:35
The anime will be aired on October 2015. :)
source ? pls
edit : I found it =) http://www.ittoshura.com/
Nachtwandler
2015-06-29, 11:01
I wonder how Silver Link plan to handle 3 shows this Fall?
MisaoFan
2015-06-29, 11:39
i wonder how Silver Link plan to handler 3 shows this Fall?
They're also applying the same tactic within this summer as well.
Nachtwandler
2015-06-29, 12:13
Actually yes. I somehow forgot it
GreyZone
2015-06-29, 12:42
OMG, so they really are going to duel Gakusen Toshi? I didn't expect that.
I wonder how Silver Link plan to handle 3 shows this Fall?
The anime is co-produced with another studio so technically it's 2.5 shows.
The 48th Ronin
2015-06-29, 23:22
Why are people so adamant of pitting this with Asterisk? Do they even have the same air day and air time?
Nachtwandler
2015-06-29, 23:26
They are both popular LNs of the same publisher
GreyZone
2015-06-30, 00:26
Why are people so adamant of pitting this with Asterisk? Do they even have the same air day and air time?
Can't talk for others, but they are the only "magic highschool" LNs that I care about at all. I doubt I am the only one who thinks that.
Endscape
2015-06-30, 01:25
They are both popular LNs of the same publisher
Not to mention they're both battle fantasy series with a high school setting, plus the MC's are sort of similar.
The most notable difference is Asterisk is definitely a harem but Rakudai is hardly one. Rakudai is also actual romance instead of the usual romantic comedy.
this series be sure Romantic
not harem
Rakudai comes 10.2015
İ cant wait :D
ImperialFlameGod8190
2015-07-02, 07:04
The most notable difference is Asterisk is definitely a harem but Rakudai is hardly one. Rakudai is also actual romance instead of the usual romantic comedy.
Unfortunately its a crappy romance because there's far more romantic comedy then true romance. The number of true romantic moments can be counted on 1 hand while the romantic comedy side is far clearer.
Since im assuming its a 1-cour thats a given but what is more fascinating is if they do volumes 1 and 2 only or do 1 2 and 3. The amount of material is slightly too large for a typical 4 4 4.
Thats gonna be the thing that makes it interesting.
Botan_TM
2015-07-02, 08:10
Unfortunately its a crappy romance because there's far more romantic comedy then true romance. [...]
Crappy romance or romantic comedy, point is that here we got a couple.
Unfortunately its a crappy romance because there's far more romantic comedy then true romance. The number of true romantic moments can be counted on 1 hand while the romantic comedy side is far clearer.
True, but what I actually wanted to point out was I think this series will show more true romantic moments between the main couple than other series in one-cour.
Izayoi Sakamaki
2015-07-15, 08:15
Official website has the "guess who is voicing a character? (http://asterisk-war.com/)" which I saw today. So far I only got Ayane Sakura, Nao Toyama, Misaki Kuno and Minami Takahashi (?). I actually knew what the guy's voice sounds but I can't put my finger who voiced him. Let's see how much will Aniplex prove us wrong or not.
Wrong topic no ?
MisaoFan
2015-07-15, 08:16
Wrong topic no ?
I'm actually referring to Asterisk War, sorry if I went into the wrong thread since I didn't pay much attention to what I'm searching for.
So looking at the 2 cour adaptation of the copy-pasta harem of Gakusen, how the studio in charge of Rakudai is going to manage that? I mean the fanbase of gakusen is bigger than the one of Rakudai and leavig aside the readers of the LN, the animeonly people are going to throw tons of shit against the adaptation.
I have serious doubts of how they are going to manage this competition with just 12 (?) episodes.
bastek66
2015-07-19, 17:21
I don't think there is a problem. They might adapt first 3 volumes and it will have good "open" ending since everyone knows that only Stella matters.
AceTrigger
2015-07-20, 00:12
I can already tell the Fall is gonna be an annoying season with all the Rakudai vs. Gakusen debate..
Izayoi Sakamaki
2015-08-12, 11:05
ALI PROJECT will perform the ending theme
http://natalie.mu/music/news/156870
Comiket is this weekend so hopefully a new PV will be released soon.
Stark700
2015-08-12, 22:11
Preview:
bMIarTOSN7o
Kurono and Ikki's hair look slightly brownish.
Stark700
2015-08-12, 23:33
Latest key visual
http://i.imgur.com/7UmViNy.jpg
I really love how Ikki and Stella looks, the animation seems pretty good too.
The main thing here is how many episodes we're going to have.
Wandering Soul
2015-08-13, 00:05
I really love how Ikki and Stella looks, the animation seems pretty good too.
The main thing here is how many episodes we're going to have.
I'm guessing this will be a 12 episode adaption. The pacing will probably be 4 episodes per volume. The latest visual shows they are at least going up to volume 3.
ayanami0000
2015-08-13, 00:21
I think it's a great title and maybe one of the coolest series name I've ever see/heard. I guess I should add this to my watchlist. Thanks for sharing
Marcus H.
2015-08-13, 01:09
Loving the OP, which I assume is the song used for the PV.
Seiyū list:
黒鉄一輝:逢坂良太
ステラ・ヴァーミリオン:石上静香
黒鉄珠雫:東山奈央
有栖院凪:浅沼晋太郎
綾辻絢瀬:小林ゆう
東堂刀華:金元寿子
新宮寺黒乃:東内マリ子
日下部加々美:相坂優歌
西京寧音:井口裕香
折木有里:橘田いずみ
兎丸恋々:M・A・O
御祓泡沫:潘めぐみ
桐原静矢:松岡禎丞
倉敷蔵人:細谷佳正
黒鉄龍馬:有本欽隆
Marcus H.
2015-08-13, 01:23
Translated:
Ikki Kurogane: Ryouta Oosaka [known as Maou Sadao in Hataraku Maou-sama and Nagate Tanikaze in Sidonia no Kishi]
Stella Vermillion: Shizuka Ishigami [known as Ayame Kajo in Shimoneta and Ikumi Mito in Shokugeki no Souma]
Shizuku Kurogane: Nao Touyama
Nagi Arisuin: Shintarou Asanuma [known as Izayoi Sakamaki in Mondaiji]
Ayase Ayatsuji: Yuu Kobayashi
Touka Toudou: Hisako Kanemoto [known as Ika Musume, Amy in Suisei no Gargantia and Haruka Kotoura in Kotoura-san]
Kurono Shinguuji: Mariko Higashiuchi [known as Torao Kanegami in Nourin, has roles in two other anime]
Kagami Kusakabe: Yuuka Aisaka [known as Muse in Amagi Brilliant Park and Kotone Noda in Sakura Trick]
Nene Saikyou: Yuka Iguchi [known as Index in Toaru Majutsu no Index, and Kaga in KanColle]
Arisa Oriki: Izumi Kitta [known as Cordelia in Milky Holmes and Misaki Tokura in Cardfight Vanguard]
Renren Tomaru: MAO [known as Vorona in Durarara!, Yuuri Wakasa in Gakkou Gurashi and Hiei in Arpeggio of Blue Steel Movies]
Utakata Misogi: Megumi Han [known as Gon in Hunter x Hunter]
Shizuya Kirihara: Yoshitsugu Matsuoka [known as Kirito in Sword Art Online and Souma in Shokugeki no Souma]
Kuraudo Kurashiki: Yoshimasa Hosoya [known as Arata Wataya in Chihayafuru and Reiner Braun in Attack on Titan]
Ryouma Kurogane: Kinryuu Arimoto [known as Whitebeard in One Piece]
The One Above God
2015-08-13, 04:55
Ikki and Stella's respective VAs fit very well IMO. Not sure about the others.
I can picture Hosoya as Kuraudo pretty well.
GreyZone
2015-08-13, 08:22
I am REALLY happy now that this isn't done by IMS instead. That trailer looked great... there is one thing though... WHY is Stella's hair PINK at some points in that trailer? It seems to vary between Magenta and Pink during the trailer.
Can't wait to see lots of buzzwords in the episode threads too!
Kuroageha
2015-08-13, 16:49
I am REALLY happy now that this isn't done by IMS instead. That trailer looked great... there is one thing though... WHY is Stella's hair PINK at some points in that trailer? It seems to vary between Magenta and Pink during the trailer.
Can't wait to see lots of buzzwords in the episode threads too!
Silver Link is no better though.
C3 had lots of quality ant its PV was praised at first, this one is below that.
Shinji103
2015-08-13, 17:07
I am REALLY happy now that this isn't done by IMS instead.You really need to check the trailer (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5589404#post5589404) and screenshots (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5619922#post5619922) for IMS' DAL movie.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2015-08-13, 17:16
So, Edward Newgate plays Ryouma Kurogane huh? Consider me sold.
Marcus H.
2015-08-13, 18:21
You really need to check the trailer and screenshots for IMS' DAL movie.
I see your DAL Movie and counter that with the TV broadcast of Twintails.
Kuroageha
2015-08-13, 18:23
I see your DAL Movie and counter that with the TV broadcast of Twintails.
Outsourced because IMS was doing Shinmai at that time.
Nachtwandler
2015-08-13, 18:31
But animation wise both Shinmai and DAL 2 was below average. Not on ARMS level but still below average.
And giving movie as example is not valid. Movies have much higher budget and production time.
Silver Link is no better though.
C3 had lots of quality ant its PV was praised at first, this one is below that.
we are really gonna go back THAT far to talk badly about silver link lol
GreyZone
2015-08-13, 18:32
Outsourced because IMS was doing Shinmai at that time.
Yea, but going by the recent Shinmai:Burst trailer...
Also you can't compare a movie with a TV series, because a movie tends to have higher budget (though some Studios like DEEN show that even that is no guarantee for good animation)
Yea, but going by the recent Shinmai:Burst trailer...
Also you can't compare a movie with a TV series, because a movie tends to have higher budget (though some Studios like DEEN show that even that is no guarantee for good animation)
you aslo shouldnt talk about pv quality to tv quality....cuz ive seen some horrendous shaft pvs that almost made me drop koufuku but luckily the anime was better
Nachtwandler
2015-08-13, 18:34
C3 was made more in SHAFT stile. So it's strange to talk about "quality" out there. I don't remember much details but I was satisfied with action there. And recently Silver Link did Illiya which is really good animation wise
Preview:
bMIarTOSN7o
Dafuq is this!? This better not be the opening. Sounds like an old man.
Izayoi Sakamaki
2015-08-13, 19:59
Silver Link must show us Taimadou Gakuen PV too
Kuroageha
2015-08-13, 20:08
But animation wise both Shinmai and DAL 2 was below average. Not on ARMS level but still below average.
And giving movie as example is not valid. Movies have much higher budget and production time.
Isn't a matter of budget but time of schedule for working on it.
we are really gonna go back THAT far to talk badly about silver link lol
Both are fantasy LN adaptations, of course it makes sense the comparison :eyebrow:.
Yea, but going by the recent Shinmai:Burst trailer...
And that's why I said it is no better. Just compare the color palette and cell works used on Rakudai seems very low quality.
Silver Link must show us Taimadou Gakuen PV too
And they're working on Shomin Sample as well... :uhoh:
Marcus H.
2015-08-13, 20:23
I feel "pale" or "pastel" is the more appropriate term. Stella's fiery red hair is replaced by a more pinkish hue, for example. It does need getting used to.
Top Sergeant
2015-08-13, 22:14
The depictions of the characters looks very good!
Nachtwandler
2015-08-14, 03:26
Isn't a matter of budget but time of schedule for working on it.
It's a matter of both. And I made a point about it. You can't compare movie to TV-series.
Botan_TM
2015-08-14, 04:29
At first I was negatively surprised by song, but after listening it a few times I think it is nice and match series. And personally I don't really mind Engrish.
I don't like change of Stella's hair colour, red match her better than pink. Also for some reason I don't like imouto design.
From the other hand, combats scenes looks good.
I see one problem, it looks like we will get "point of no return" in episode 4, too far for people who use 3 episodes rule.
The 48th Ronin
2015-08-14, 08:07
Is that the OP for this show? It sounds like it's from an 70s/80s tokusatsu series. :heh:
I see that silver link animation art style. I'm rather fond of it so this will be nice. How they use a more pastel or watery drawing while forgoing rough lines. Similar to what I see from prisma Illya pictures. Besides, Strike the blood and Yuri kuma arashi were also visually pleasing so I think this could go fine. Though they are doing three shows in one season so the quality could degrade a lot after a few episodes.
I see that silver link animation art style. I'm rather fond of it so this will be nice. How they use a more pastel or watery drawing while forgoing rough lines. Similar to what I see from prisma Illya pictures. Besides, Strike the blood and Yuri kuma arashi were also visually pleasing so I think this could go fine. Though they are doing three shows in one season so the quality could degrade a lot after a few episodes.
It's co-produced by Silver Link and another studio, so it should be fine.
The novels also seem to have hit the 1 million copies mark, so it has now become a hit series.
Kurohane
2015-08-15, 21:03
Is that the OP for this show? It sounds like it's from an 70s/80s tokusatsu series. :heh:
It reminds of "Drastic My Soul" from Scryed. I believe it's the same singing group too.
First episode of the anime will get an early screening event on 27th September with some of the main cast attending and OP theme performed by the artist.
AceTrigger
2015-09-01, 12:26
The site is now updated with the character designs: http://ittoshura.com/character/index.html
The site is now updated with the character designs: http://ittoshura.com/character/index.html
Also updated with the airing date: Saturday, October 3rd, 23:00 on AT-X.
GreyZone
2015-09-01, 12:57
^Does this mean that this will be uncensored? Well there isn't much to censor in the first place.
^Already corrected. Didn't see the AT-X one until later, but yeah, perhaps uncensored, even though there indeed shouldn't be too much to censor.
The site is now updated with the character designs: http://ittoshura.com/character/index.html
It's just me or Stella looks little bit too healthy?
AceTrigger
2015-09-01, 16:08
Wait a minute, Gakusen Toshi Asterisk is also on October 3rd.. Not sure if I like that..
It's just me or Stella looks little bit too healthy?
She is a healthy girl after all.
It's just me or Stella looks little bit too healthy?
What does that even mean?
Marcus H.
2015-09-01, 19:02
Oh, dat flustered face by Stella. Makes me want to pet her head and tell her that Izumo is joking. :heh:
Oh, dat flustered face by Stella. Makes me want to pet her head and tell her that Izumo is joking. :heh:
"Don't worry stella, all that cake you eat for the last week means nothing" :heh:
GreyZone
2015-09-01, 20:30
"Don't worry stella, all that cake you eat for the last week means nothing" :heh:
Her ability to eat as much cake as she wants would make lots of people envyous.
ah yes... Rakudai finally got animated
why I love this series? Because the MC is not a dense one but actually pretty decisive and badass
:heh:
I just hope the animation would be pretty good especially during battle scene
I just hope the animation would be pretty good especially during battle scene
I don't worry about that. Oonuma Shin never fails to deliver the fight scenes in Prisma Illya. :D
Kuroageha
2015-09-10, 18:26
If have a feeling this is gonna be like Absolute Duo or even worse because the plot progression is slow as snaiio pace.
GreyZone
2015-09-10, 19:41
If have a feeling this is gonna be like Absolute Duo or even worse because the plot progression is slow as snaiio pace.
You don't have to worry about that. That is not going to be an issue.
If we're getting only one cour, then it's just gonna be another Blade Dance.
Kuroageha
2015-09-10, 21:17
You don't have to worry about that. That is not going to be an issue.
As a novel reader, I'm aware of what is going to unfold.
But yeah, like bakato said, blade dance would be a better comparison.
GreyZone
2015-09-10, 21:27
As a novel reader, I'm aware of what is going to unfold.
But yeah, like bakato said, blade dance would be a better comparison.
Oh, I thought you ment the overall pace, but you were talking about the pace of the main story (i.e. the tournement itself). And yes, while everything "aside" (escpacially relationships) from the story is quite fast paced, the main story itself is progressing at a rather medium pace, but I don't think that it's "too slow".
AceTrigger
2015-09-21, 23:28
What a cutie
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/02.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/03.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/04.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/05.jpg
What a cutie
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/02.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/03.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/04.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/05.jpg
Where did you get this?
AceTrigger
2015-09-22, 00:07
Where did you get this?
The anime official Twitter retweeted a link to this.
The One Above God
2015-09-22, 08:43
What a cutie
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/02.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/03.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/04.jpg
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F*ck yeah, Stella!!!
dmaxzero
2015-09-22, 10:00
As cliche as these shows can be, and tiresome as they have become. This one is slightly more interesting mainly because the dynamic of the main duo. The MC is not an idiot and the main heroine is not an stupid airhead, which make them bearable and you can even root for them to some extent. Battles are nice as well.
Not a sliver of hope for this adaptation, but I will check it out because the LN is rather amusing among the vast sea of cliche works with beyond lame adaptations.
This one is slightly more interesting mainly because…..
thats where i stop they are entertaining because they are more of the same…now if u like that fine but we all know why we are here and we all expect something out of it based on its demography and genre
GreyZone
2015-09-22, 13:42
This one is slightly more interesting mainly because…..
thats where i stop they are entertaining because they are more of the same…now if u like that fine but we all know why we are here and we all expect something out of it based on its demography and genre
What "demography" though? LNs don't have demographics like manga. And rather than "because it is part a certain genre" it's more like "because it is NOT part of a certain genre".
Draco Spirit
2015-09-22, 14:20
I'll be trying it out at least. Sometimes these kind of shows go and give you a pleasant surprise in characterisation.
KnightShade
2015-09-22, 14:32
I'll be trying it out at least. Sometimes these kind of shows go and give you a pleasant surprise in characterisation.
well in your in luck when it comes to the mc's. the rest of the cast...not so much
What "demography" though? LNs don't have demographics like manga. And rather than "because it is part a certain genre" it's more like "because it is NOT part of a certain genre".
using the term demography as target audience not the way japan uses it for anime and manga or w.e
I actually really like this LN, and don't think it's too slow. The adaptation might only be okay, but the LN is really good. I really like the plot and the characters. Hopefully the adaptation satisfies me. If it does then it'll probably be my favorite show this season... other than perhaps Heavy Object and maybe One Punch Man.
Edit: This show is nothing like those one-a-season Absolute duo type shows. This is actually quality.
Wandering Soul
2015-09-22, 16:59
What a cutie
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/02.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/03.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/04.jpg
http://2015sep.image.akibablog.net/images/22/column_ga/05.jpg
Dat Stella:love:.
Stark700
2015-09-28, 18:52
12 episodes listed
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-09-28/aria-double-a-rakudai-kishi-no-cavalry-valkyrie-drive-mermaid-listed-with-12-episodes/.93514
I also thought of posting that but given that, in this case, they may have simply not stated if it'll be 1 or 2 cours (I believe it's only 1), I decided not to.
Frontier
2015-09-28, 20:58
Considering the trend, I was almost expecting a split-cour announcement :heh:.
12 episodes.... well at least we can watch Stella in action.
I only interest of Ikki battle using his 1min and split second action
12 episodes listed
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-09-28/aria-double-a-rakudai-kishi-no-cavalry-valkyrie-drive-mermaid-listed-with-12-episodes/.93514
Blade Dance confirmed.
Blade Dance confirmed.
And... Why?
And... Why?
We're never gonna see the tournament.
That's why, nowadays, I only hope to see a good adaption with good animation.
I try not to hold my hopes high, the producers usually manage to betray them...
The 48th Ronin
2015-09-29, 08:54
Why are we expecting a 2-cour? How many volumes have been released again? :heh:
That's why, nowadays, I only hope to see a good adaption with good animation.
I try not to hold my hopes high, the producers usually manage to betray them...
I don't really mind. Compared to Blade Dance, the plot here is significantly better and volume 3's a good place for a send off considering the badass battle there.
The One Above God
2015-09-29, 09:30
If it's just 12 episodes, then the best part to end the cour is around volume 3.
This is just an assumption, if this season does the job in a really good way MAYBE, just MAYBE we can have S2 with all the tournament thing.
But even with that 12 episodes means lots of rush.
Stark700
2015-09-29, 14:28
Sentai license
http://www.sentaifilmworks.com/news/sentai-filmworks-licenses-chivalry-of-a-failed-knight
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