Voltron: Legendary Defender (Netflix)

[Galaxian]

Netflix and Dreamworks Animation announced to new upcoming titles. One is an original series by Guillermo del Toro called Trollhunters, and the other one is a "reimagining" of Voltron.

Source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-05/netflix-dreamworks-deal-expands-to-includes-voltron-reimagining/.97244)

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[moodie]

does this qualify as an anime?

[MeoTwister5]

As long as it's still about a super force of space explorers, I'm in.

[SILENTANIMELOVER]

And it makes us forget about Voltron Force. That disappointed me.

[Utsuro no Hako]

New Voltron, new Macross, new Vampire Hunter D, and of course Gundam the Origin ... all we need now is an Akira remake.

[Cerilla]

While there is no further info, I assume this will be 3DGC. Mecha shows nowadays really love their CG.

[Faux Mecha]

does this qualify as an anime?

Transformers Prime/Beast Hunter & the currently running Robots in Disguise (2015) were animated by Polygon Pictures whom you all know is your average anime studio who also did the adaptation for Knights of Sidonia & uh? Aijin the demi human? they do both the typical 2D & 3D CG animes, but that Transformers show was not treated as anime due to how westernized the feel is, almost having a Pixar/Dreamworks style to it, they did also Tron Uprising & one of the Star Wars spin-offs.

[Galaxian]

Series' logo and imagery...

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/voltron-legendary-defender-netflix-poster-406x600.jpg (http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Voltron-Legendary-Defender-Nerdist-Exclusive.jpg)

[Frontier]

Series' logo and imagery...

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/voltron-legendary-defender-netflix-poster-406x600.jpg (http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Voltron-Legendary-Defender-Nerdist-Exclusive.jpg)
The silhouette reminds me of the Voltron Force design for Voltron. I seriously hope this is better then that series :uhoh:.

[quigonkenny]

Series' logo and imagery...

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/voltron-legendary-defender-netflix-poster-406x600.jpg (http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Voltron-Legendary-Defender-Nerdist-Exclusive.jpg)
That doesn't look like the Lion Voltron...

[Faux Mecha]

That doesn't look like the Lion Voltron...

um, what makes you said that? its clearly still the same old traditional lion design just streamlined like the Force version of the cartoon, i mean you can see the freaking arms having lion head silhouette hands,

also its kind of funny Toei never remade Beast King GoLion for the modern era for the Japanese audiences, its more popular overseas & the western demographic along with Armored Armada Dairugger XV that became the Vehicle Voltron,

that along with Mach GoGoGo aka Speed Racer which the anime's stopped being remade till today with the last one being a spinoff which is Mach GoGoGo Girl, instead we have western made cartoon versions, don't get me on that live action movie..............

[Galaxian]

First teaser, first full look at Voltron, and a June 10th release date.

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[LoweGear]

The leg insertion sequence is so Gaogaigar that I wouldn't be surprised if they were influenced by that. :heh:

Though seeing old-school mecha combination innards makes me feel optimistic about this one.

[Faux Mecha]

that awkward moment when a western adaptation of Beast King Go-Lion tries to become a part of the 90's Brave series & Eldran series with the transformation sequence. :heh:

[Illsteir]

New trailer:
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Can't stop hearing Finn from Lance :heh:

[LoweGear]

That... actually looks good.

[darkchibi07]

So how long until one of the guys gets injured, captured, or killed and then the princess takes over? :p

[LoweGear]

Found this link to an interview that hasn't been posted here before, and I like how many anime inspirations they mention in the making of this show, especially Gundam, and even the original GoLion.

VOLTRON: LEGENDARY DEFENDER Cast, Release Date, and More Revealed (Exclusive) (http://nerdist.com/voltron-legendary-defender-netflix-cast-release-date-showrunner-interview-dreamworks-animation/)

[Galaxian]

The animation reminds me a lot of Avatar/Legend of Korra, but slightly choppier.

I wonder if they going to have Keith take over the black lion from Shiro later on.

[SILENTANIMELOVER]

I was a little worried after the crap-tastic Voltron Force, but after seeing the trailer, I'm kind of stoked.

[Faux Mecha]

still trying to get used to princess Allura now re imagined as a dark elf alien.

[foxbox360]

still trying to get used to princess Allura now re imagined as a dark elf alien.

I dig dark elves:cool:

[videoman190]

Let's not forget in Golion is set after WWIII and the Earth exploded! I would like it if the source material is close to Golion as possible.

[quigonkenny]

So how long until one of the guys gets injured, captured, or killed and then the princess takes over? :p
However many episodes the first season is going to be? Subtract 2 or 3.

Kind of hoping they'd resurrect the original theme somehow, as iconic as it's always been. Maybe they're holding out on showing that.

I imagine that was Zarkon and Haggar we saw talking to each other. Don't mind the monstrous look on Zarkon, assuming that is him, but his son Lotor needs to be an "evil space-bishie", like the original. Not liking Haggar's voice, if that was her. Not suitably over the top stereotypically evil witchy. She should basically be Empress Palpatine.

[wavehawk]

I'm...kind of okay with this so far. Will see how it goes before I can say I like it or hate it yet.

[wingdarkness]

The CG is the downer...Everything else looked pretty respectable, but that's the reason I'll probably pass...

[SILENTANIMELOVER]

So you'd rather want stuff like spaceships, robots, and vehicles hand-drawn over CG? That would make season and episode production take way too long.

[Ithekro]

I've found CG with drawn details seems to work fairly well for ships at least.

[LoweGear]

Couple of new preview clips:

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I've certainly seen worse CGI in animated shows (I'm no fan of what Sidonia did), so to me this show's CG is in my view respectable at least.

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Think the music is a bit weak on this one though.

[Illsteir]

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[Illsteir]

New trailer: "Roar"
https://youtu.be/7MfB_0nTi-4

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I did not like of this CGI used , but maybe I'll change my opinion, I loved sidonia and Ajin after watching the episodes.

[Faux Mecha]

I did not like of this CGI used , but maybe I'll change my opinion, I loved sidonia and Ajin after watching the episodes.

don't forget the Zoids TV series, despite the age of the CGI used it was somehow a huge hit back in the day, also the fact the CGI somewhat improves with each new series released, becoming more fluid & the smaller details on the Zoids are even seen to have movement on their own.

[LoweGear]

And here's something you don't get much from anime: Pre-airing reviews:

First Impressions: Netflix's Voltron Legendary Defender ('http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2016-06-06/first-impressions-netflix-voltron-legendary-defender/.102916')

'Voltron Legendary Defender' Episode 1 Review: All Hail Mecha Alien Space Lions ('http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/06/06/voltron-legendary-defender-episode-1-review-all-hail-mecha-alien-space-lions/#22cb4cce9430')

Voltron Legendary Defender Episode #1 review - The legend is back ('http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/voltron-legendary-defender-review-episode-1/')

First episode looks to be 68-70 minutes long.

Also, another preview clip:

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[Galaxian]

Saw season 1. The series is very good, Voltron is used sporadically (they spent more time as lions), a lot of comedy peppered throughout, the CGI was great, and "Pidge" is the best character IMO.

That said, the the season does end abruptly (I feel as if there should have been at least one more episode), there are a lot of unanswered questions, and Keith is by far the less developed character.

[Neki Ecko]

I have a chance to look at Season One and I was very impressed about it. It feels kinda nice that they use more moves then the OHK Blazing Sword. I really enjoyed all of the characters including my series MVPs of "Pidge" and Lance. I cant wait to see more episodes.

[shadow1296]

So just finished "season one" and here's a review
It's very good and how a reboot should be done, but its not without its problems.

The Good

-The first episode, it is very well done "tv movie" like first episode, it establishes the lore, characters, and conflict in a nice hour and four minute run with some decent action here and there
-Shiro and "Pidge" these two are clearly the stars of the series and for what the writers try to do with them they do an excellent job
-The action is pretty decent as well for both 2d and 3d animation no there are some recycled scenes here and there but they don't really hurt the overall fights
-those references these references are scattered throughout the series and they range from subtle to the blatantly obvious even then they don't hurt the story in any way because of how they are used, like for instance in the first episode they subtly reference how in the original at first the black lion key is missing by making it the pilots weapon that's missing and for a more obvious one the princess literally says the voltron connection sequence
-the character and lion designs

The Average

-Alura, Keith, Hunk, and Lance These guys are just average, and what development they do get either doesn't exist, doesn't stick, or happens way too late to even matter
-The villians what can i say there an evil empire and that's all you really need understand really, there a massive threat and all the twists centered around them can be predicted by episode one
-the comedy it ranges from incredibly funny to downright cingeworthy

The Bad

-THAT ENDING there is no reason for it none absolutely none and yet they gave us that it makes you feel like netflix forgot to release an episode or an entire half season. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for it
-the Butler out of all the characters i can say this one was a truly bad character its as if all he exists to be is a comic relief and nothing more which is sad really because there is clearly more to him then that
-unexplored/dropped plot threads there are a few not many plot threads that are brought up never used and then dropped
-predictable yes its a little predictable does that hurt the story no, a story can be good even if its predictable, but if you don't like that then its not for you

What i hope for next season
-more development for the rest of the cast
-"Pidge" to look more like the Flashback "Pidge" and to finish that arc the started for "Pidge"
-more varied locals all in all its a good watch and i do recommend people give it a shot before ditching it

[Illsteir]

That said, the the season does end abruptly (I feel as if there should have been at least one more episode)

Yeah. It felt more like a mid season break rather than a finale.

Also, will this thread get transferred to Currently Airing or at least the Sports and Entertainment section? I think this show is good and it would be a shame if it just goes below the radar to some.

[LKK]

Also, will this thread get transferred to Currently Airing or at least the Sports and Entertainment section?
Moved to Current.

[Galaxian]

Season 1's least developed character is also the one shrouded in more mystery: Keith.

Why did the Lions seemingly reached out for him first? Why was his "happy place" his old shack in the middle of nowhere? What was the deal with the quintessence? And of course the giant canon he was able to unlock in the Red Lion.

[Illsteir]

Moved to Current.
Thanks! :D

Season 1's least developed character is also the one shrouded in more mystery: Keith.

Why did the Lions seemingly reached out for him first?
Wild theory: his ancestor is the Blue Lion's original paladin who decided to settle on Earth 10,00 years ago.
Why was his "happy place" his old shack in the middle of nowhere?
He's described as the lone wolf of the group. But, yeah. Not seeing anyone close to him, even a family member, in the projection is rather strange.
What was the deal with the quintessence?
The scene where he got doused with it? It's magical life juice. It's not really that surprising when his burns healed instantly.
And of course the giant canon he was able to unlock in the Red Lion.
It probably has something to do with piloting experience. The more you get accustomed or connected to your lion, the more equipment you unlock. Plus he's fighting the Big Baddie in that battle. And as rpg exp goes, he's probably getting a lot :heh: .

[SILENTANIMELOVER]

I just finished watching Voltron this afternoon. I'M IN LOVE!!!! Best Voltron remake ever!

[Faux Mecha]

i' m not sure how they handled the original origin story for the Voltron itself in this version,
the Voltron or GoLion in the unedited Beast King GoLion version was a once a living being known as the 'five headed beast' referring the five lion heads that makes up his head, hands, & feet, who was considered the most powerful warrior in the universe but was so mad with power that even after defeating the most powerful entities in the galaxies was not even enough to satisfy him that he dared to even challenge a god, as he was about to strike a blow on said god, in this case a goddess, punished him by splitting his body into five parts & scattered them through out the universe & removing his sentience as a result, in the final climax of the original anime, the Voltron/Golion somehow manages to regain back his sentience but not sure his mindset has changed after his individual components spent time being piloted by humans which are the main cast.

[mangatron]

https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/voltron_princess_allura.jpg?w=600 (https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/voltron_princess_allura.jpg)

Allura :love: Please be mean to me :p:heh:

[ReddyRedWolf]

Just binge watched.

Okay is it just me or is this show slow paced?

I see taking stuff from the 2011 Voltron Force. Weapons unique to each lion and personal hard light weapons.

I didn't like Lance's wannabee rivalry with Keith and his womanizing ways.

They turned Keith into the Lancer and that's Lance's job.

Hunk was supposed to be the Big Guy not the scared fat guy.

Like with Voltron 2011 Pidge has a twin brother. Guess no chance of a Vehicle Voltron. Pidge... Well that is awkward.

Shiro given his character design and anime origin I'm scared for him.

As for the Galra whoa an actual threat. Fleets and all with sparse but dangerous robeasts.

Earth is at the ass end of the universe and not part of a Galaxy Alliance. Hopefully once it comes up to speed it becomes a rallying point of free planets.

Speculation and prediction:
Zarkon pulled a Sauron helping build and pilot Voltron. His connection to the Black Lion is like the One Ring. This is why Alfor hesitated in using Voltron. But given his AI said he should've used Voltron there must be a way to break the connection.

It wouldn't surprise me if Zarkon builds his own evil Voltron.

Given Zarkon's comment that Keith fights like a Garla speculation is Keith is actually Lotor. He could be half Altean.

[RDNexus]

Does anyone know if the japanese have or are watching the series?
If yes, what's their opinion of it? Specially in regard to the original story.

[orion]

Speculation and prediction:


Given Zarkon's comment that Keith fights like a Garla speculation is Keith is actually Lotor. He could be half Altean.

But...

In the older series, Keith and Lotor have a competition going on. Lotor is jealous of Keith x Allura. So maybe that comment was making a reference to the older series.

[ReddyRedWolf]

But...

In the older series, Keith and Lotor have a competition going on. Lotor is jealous of Keith x Allura. So maybe that comment was making a reference to the older series.

Well this series has new twists so I wouldn't make it pass them to do it.

[shadow1296]

Speculation and prediction:
Zarkon pulled a Sauron helping build and pilot Voltron. His connection to the Black Lion is like the One Ring. This is why Alfor hesitated in using Voltron. But given his AI said he should've used Voltron there must be a way to break the connection.

It wouldn't surprise me if Zarkon builds his own evil Voltron.

Given Zarkon's comment that Keith fights like a Garla speculation is Keith is actually Lotor. He could be half Altean.

i really doubt he is half altean, descended from one maybe, like his ancestor is the blue lion pilot but half one? that means there is a pure blooded altean living on earth who has been alive for 10,000 year, now if he was part galra that be a different story, it would explain why red was hesitant to let him pilot it, the way he fights, and maybe why that soldier helped them escape at the end, its also a little more plausible because the galra are still around but the alteans were wiped out 10,000 years ago

[ReddyRedWolf]

i really doubt he is half altean, descended from one maybe, like his ancestor is the blue lion pilot but half one? that means there is a pure blooded altean living on earth who has been alive for 10,000 year, now if he was part galra that be a different story, it would explain why red was hesitant to let him pilot it, the way he fights, and maybe why that soldier helped them escape at the end, its also a little more plausible because the galra are still around but the alteans were wiped out 10,000 years ago

Prince Sincline aka Prince Lotor in Golion was half Garla half Altean. Daibazaal raped an Altean later giving birth to Sincline. Daibazaal murdered her later when she begged him to pardon his prisoners.

Alteans in this setting are humanoid shape shifters.

[shadow1296]

that only gives more credibility to the fact keith is half galra, you bring up lotor being half galra and altean but there is no lotor in this series yet, but there is a character who has a strong connection to him keith so they may have thought to put lotor's backstory in keith's a little, and according to the show as far as we know altea was erased and its people with it with the only two being alive are allura and the butler and until stated otherwise that means its impossible for keith to be half altean there are no pure blooded alteans left alive, plus zarkon said he fights like a galran not an altean, second keith is the first to bring out voltron's hidden weaponry and hiven the revelation about zarkon its highly possible that voltron was created by the galra in this universe which could explain that, and the lions could have been programmed later to reject galran pilots because of what zarkon and the galra were doing which would explain why the galra weren't able to pilot he red lion when they had it and why keith wasn't able to at first. look its clear that the authors know the source material yet they still want to do their own story its clear judging from the fact that sven/shiro is still around and they clearly have no plan to make allura a pilot

[juve]

I loved the series remake. BUt I wish they kept the original voltron formation music and visual.

[orion]

that only gives more credibility to the fact keith is half galra, you bring up lotor being half galra and altean but there is no lotor in this series yet, but there is a character who has a strong connection to him keith so they may have thought to put lotor's backstory in keith's a little, and according to the show as far as we know altea was erased and its people with it with the only two being alive are allura and the butler and until stated otherwise that means its impossible for keith to be half altean there are no pure blooded alteans left alive, plus zarkon said he fights like a galran not an altean, second keith is the first to bring out voltron's hidden weaponry and hiven the revelation about zarkon its highly possible that voltron was created by the galra in this universe which could explain that, and the lions could have been programmed later to reject galran pilots because of what zarkon and the galra were doing which would explain why the galra weren't able to pilot he red lion when they had it and why keith wasn't able to at first. look its clear that the authors know the source material yet they still want to do their own story its clear judging from the fact that sven/shiro is still around and they clearly have no plan to make allura a pilot

I applaud Pidge being female and Allura being a commander.

But...they said that you had to earn Red Lion's respect before it would agree to partner with you. Maybe the Red Lion was waiting to see what he could do and that was what the delay was about, not about Keith's species. Keith could still be human. After 6,000 years (period where human cilvilzation existed), he prob is majority human anyways if he has a drop of anything else in his system.

[Elder]

i really doubt he is half altean, descended from one maybe, like his ancestor is the blue lion pilot but half one? that means there is a pure blooded altean living on earth who has been alive for 10,000 year, now if he was part galra that be a different story, it would explain why red was hesitant to let him pilot it, the way he fights, and maybe why that soldier helped them escape at the end, its also a little more plausible because the galra are still around but the alteans were wiped out 10,000 years ago

In the original Golion, Sincline is the son of Daibazaal (Zarkon) and an Altean woman. In this continuity we know there was past association between Zarkon and Altea since he was one of the original paladins/space knights and that Alteans are shapeshifters. So it's definitely possible for Keith being the son of Zarkon due to his Altean heritage to change shape and there is the curious fact that he can operate the Galra systems without an interface such as parts from the droids or Shiro's cybernetic hand. Furthermore Voltron is being done by the same studio that did Avatar and we are seeing a lot of repeated tropes here especially with Lance= Sokka and Hunk=Bolin so Keith being an Zuko expy is also plausible.

that means its impossible for keith to be half altean there are no pure blooded alteans left aliv

Not that we know of though and Coran and Allura have are not fully knowledgeable of current events due to being in stasis (such as their ignorance of Zarkon being alive or the current state of Balmerra). There is a theory that the traitor that shut down the shield in the last episode, the Second-in-Command to Sendak's rival is really an Altean Infiltrator/Shape Shifter.

[DMurphy]

In the original Golion, Sincline is the son of Daibazaal (Zarkon) and an Altean woman. In this continuity we know there was past association between Zarkon and Altea since he was one of the original paladins/space knights and that Alteans are shapeshifters. So it's definitely possible for Keith being the son of Zarkon due to his Altean heritage to change shape and there is the curious fact that he can operate the Galra systems without an interface such as parts from the droids or Shiro's cybernetic hand. Furthermore Voltron is being done by the same studio that did Avatar and we are seeing a lot of repeated tropes here especially with Lance= Sokka and Hunk=Bolin so Keith being an Zuko expy is also plausible.



Yeah, the Keith=Zuko comparison is one that's already been made a few times (hell, I made it not long ago), and he's definitely at least the same character archetype?

Whether that translates into a similar storyline, I have absolutely no idea, but it's definitely possible.

[quigonkenny]

I think you guys are reading far, far too much into that one line. I don't know how many people over the course of Star Trek have been told, by a Klingon they were fighting with, "You fight like a Klingon", yet none of them was secretly half-Klingon... It's a warrior race trope.

[Galaxian]

I think you guys are reading far, far too much into that one line. I don't know how many people over the course of Star Trek have been told, by a Klingon they were fighting with, "You fight like a Klingon", yet none of them was secretly half-Klingon... It's a warrior race trope.

Well, IMO, Keith is such and empty slate in season one that he could use a bit of speculation. :heh:

[RDNexus]

Any news of Season2? Because, well, that cliffhanger... :heh:

[orion]

Well, IMO, Keith is such and empty slate in season one that he could use a bit of speculation. :heh:


Couldn't it just be that Keith is a strong fighter? Suspecting him to be another race just devalues what humans can achieve imo.

[DMurphy]

Someone's probably already mentioned this, but:

In Voltron Force, which these characters are all originally from, Keith is secretly (part?) Arusian. The Arusians have been altered into the Alteans in Legendary Defender, and they seem to be related to the Galra (since Zarkon is apparently the former Black Paladin). We've also had a few mentions now of how Alteans can pretend to be other species.

[Galaxian]

Couldn't it just be that Keith is a strong fighter? Suspecting him to be another race just devalues what humans can achieve imo.

But it would make his character at least somewhat interesting, because as it stands now he is the most boring member of the main cast.

At the beginning of the season they seem to be going for a "lone wolf" type of character for him, but that gets dropped after the first episode only to somewhat come back for the last two.

[Frontier]

Well, IMO, Keith is such and empty slate in season one that he could use a bit of speculation. :heh:
I think a part of the reason Keith is like that, and the least developed of the whole cast so far, is because of how well-rounded and seasoned they've made Shiro into.

When you take into account that Keith is, traditionally, the lead character and the pilot of the Black Lion while Shiro's counterpart in the original Voltron/GoLion is most known for dying...it feels like they're setting up something.

[Galaxian]

I think a part of the reason Keith is like that, and the least developed of the whole cast so far, is because of how well-rounded and seasoned they've made Shiro into.

When you take into account that Keith is, traditionally, the lead character and the pilot of the Black Lion while Shiro's counterpart in the original Voltron/GoLion is most known for dying...it feels like they're setting up something.

I hope it does because there were moments when Shiro got really close to a Gary Sue, which is disconcerting since he's essentially an original character.

[RDNexus]

Shiro's not an original character, the creators simply researched the original story (a good move, I must say) and implemented that into Shiro's character concept.

[Galaxian]

Shiro's not an original character, the creators simply researched the original story (a good move, I must say) and implemented that into Shiro's character concept.

Was Sven anything like Shiro? No. Therefore he's essentially a brand new character for this show.

He's not like Pidge/Katie with which they took an established character and the tweaked and added some stuff.

Voltron =/= GoLion.

[RDNexus]

But it's a good sort of homage to GoLion, which I feel glad for having been done.
I don't give a damn that Sven got switched by Shiro, I even barely remember the old Voltron series at all.

[Elder]

Was Sven anything like Shiro?

Neither are Keith/Kogane, Lance/Takashi, Fala/Allura and Raible/Cora anything close to the originals. Most of them are more by your criteria are original characters. They just have the old names stuck to them except with Shiro they used his Japanese name and he does have traits of the original character and they all but acknowledged those anime roots in the finale.

Voltron =/= GoLion.

But in this case with the use of terminology/ideas from Golion, they are clearly signalling, Legendary Defender is not just taking elements from Voltron, but of both shows including Golion, but with a large dose of original concepts from Studio Mir.

[quigonkenny]

Someone's probably already mentioned this, but:

In Voltron Force, which these characters are all originally from, Keith is secretly (part?) Arusian. The Arusians have been altered into the Alteans in Legendary Defender, and they seem to be related to the Galra (since Zarkon is apparently the former Black Paladin). We've also had a few mentions now of how Alteans can pretend to be other species.
Voltron Force is not "where all these characters are from". The V:LD iterations of these characters are pretty clearly an amalgamation of these characters from all the preceding iterations. Voltron Force, Voltron: Defender of the Universe (the original English adaptation), even Golion. With a healthy dose of tweaking by the current staff, as has been stated. I've never seen Voltron Force, but I would imagine Keith's unique heritage in that series was foreshadowed by something a bit more substantial than a backhanded compliment during combat by Zarkon.

[Elder]

No the whole fact that he is able to use the Galra tech without an interface suggests that. The other stuff just suggests he might be V:LD's version of Sincline.

[Galaxian]

No the whole fact that he is able to use the Galra tech without an interface suggests that. The other stuff just suggests he might be V:LD's version of Sincline.

You're talking about when he opened the door, right? I wondered about that too, but just wrote it off as a comedic moment.

[Galaxian]

"Season 2" is coming later this year.

Source (http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/07/21/comic-con-2016-voltron-legendary-defender-season-2-announced)

[Random14]

Yay, good news. I was afraid we'd have to wait until 2017. I was a bit skeptical (after how a lot of Dreamworks' other series turn out, not to mention the last Voltron cartoon, ugh), but this was a very good series.

A bit too much of Last Airbender and Korra in there, no surprise given who the staff is, but Lance and Corrin felt too much like Sokka (and all his humor), and Princess Allura was like Katara mixed with Yue's design. Not a bad thing, just hard to not compare them.

I do hope Keith gets more screen time next season, with him being bumped from leader to the team fighter/cynic in this reboot, he kind of fades into the background against the more... colorful personalities. He still contributes, but it was a bit of a disappointment after his introduction (back then I was still expecting Shiro to not get a lion). Not to mention being the practical/ruthless voice in a kids' cartoon, so he's always wrong. On the bright side, Shiro is awesome (partially thanks to all the screen Keith lost), and Pidge has a great personal connection to their overall mission.

Probably the best Voltron cartoon ever (good animation and great action), and I hope season 2 keeps up the quality. Though the Devil's Due comic is probably still my favorite version of Voltron ever, but this comes close.

[Galaxian]

Season 2 trailer is out: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-10-03/netflix-dreamworks-voltron-season-2-trailer-posted/.107225

This pretty much confirms that Shiro... I going to be just fine, otherwise they wouldn't be laying it on so thick...

[quigonkenny]

Season 2 trailer is out: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-10-03/netflix-dreamworks-voltron-season-2-trailer-posted/.107225

This pretty much confirms that Shiro... I going to be just fine, otherwise they wouldn't be laying it on so thick...
Keep in mind that his character actually died in the original. And laying the angst on thick is pretty common in series aimed at the teen crowd, which this is to some degree. Personally, I hope he "dies" as far as the main characters are concerned, but manages to stick around in an unexpected fashion, maybe in deep cover in the Galra Empire, under the employ of that presumed Galra/Altean double-agent we keep seeing.

[Random14]

With all the angst in the trailer, I expect him to survive... but it would be interesting if this time they kept him around long enough for us to care about him, then killed him off (unless his twin brother or something then pops up later, I think Golion had something like that, my memory is fuzzy). Or even just separated him from the team, forcing Keith to step up (which would at least give him more screen time).

Though I'm leaning towards them just playing it up, not after all the trouble Keith went to to bond with the Red Lion, or the battle for the Black Lion at the end of the first season. And Allura is pretty good at the mission control thing, though it would be following the original to have her move up to pilot too.

[orion]

I also think that he is going to survive. Princess Allura should stay in Mission Control as she powers the castle. Trailers are meant to make you want to watch the season.

It would make a better twist as everyone is expecting Shiro to die.

[quigonkenny]

With all the angst in the trailer, I expect him to survive... but it would be interesting if this time they kept him around long enough for us to care about him, then killed him off (unless his twin brother or something then pops up later, I think Golion had something like that, my memory is fuzzy). Or even just separated him from the team, forcing Keith to step up (which would at least give him more screen time).

Though I'm leaning towards them just playing it up, not after all the trouble Keith went to to bond with the Red Lion, or the battle for the Black Lion at the end of the first season. And Allura is pretty good at the mission control thing, though it would be following the original to have her move up to pilot too.
Yeah, Shiro's brother joined the team after his death in the original Golion. In the original Voltron, he never died, and there was no twin. It was him the whole time.

[orion]

Season 2 trailer is out: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-10-03/netflix-dreamworks-voltron-season-2-trailer-posted/.107225

This pretty much confirms that Shiro... I going to be just fine, otherwise they wouldn't be laying it on so thick...


Well they are laying it on more in this review below.




http://collider.com/voltron-legendary-defender-season-2-review/#netflix.

Jan 20th is the day Season 2 starts. :D

[jcdietz03]

I loved this remake.
It's much better than I remember the original series being.
Voltron is not an instant solution to the team's problems, and I remember the original series it being just exactly that.
I also like how the castle is a "support ship." In the original, the castle had a defense shield but spent all its time on planet Eris.
From the original I remember Allura being the weakest character, but in this she's the strongest character. She's the team leader even more than the lead pilot is. They gave her some super powers too which wasn't really necessary but didn't get in the way of that other stuff.

The villain team characters are weak as ever though. Hopefully it is improved for the sequel. For the evulz indeed.

[quigonkenny]

Second season's up.

[RDNexus]

Whole season again?

[Random14]

Yeah, 13 episodes, as usual for Netflix. Another great season, its not the end, I hope they have news for the next season by next comic-con. Just wish the Coran humor wasn't quite so overdone (again), but oh well. Great action scenes, and Keith definitely got more screen-time this season.

I knew they would end the season with mentioning Prince Lotor. Can't have a Voltron story without him. And huh, so Shiro has officially vanished, leaving Keith to take over as the Black Lion pilot. At least Shiro took back the bayard from Zarkon first. Wonder how they'll handle finding a replacement pilot. Guess that depends on where they go from here, as before they were always on the run (requiring Allura for quick escapes), but now....

They haven't won the war, but Zarkon is out of action for a while at least. And they have more allies now as well as still quite a few plot threads left hanging. Keith's heritage, Pidge's family, etc. Not to mention Haggar's past, though the conclusion of that battle between Allura and Haggar was really a deus ex machina. Although I haven't seen every episode yet (skipped one or two) so maybe I missed some hints, but yeah, hope they explain that later. That does tie into the "fantastic racism" trope though, since we now see good Galra and Allura knocks Haggar's hood off.

So the ominous trailer was accurate, at least Shiro was around for the whole season. And Keith did manage to move the black lion earlier, so we'll see. I wonder if Keith will switch over to black, or someone else could step in.

[RDNexus]

Shiro vanished? Or died?

[Funkatron]

Space Mall is the best episode. EVER

[Galaxian]

Just as good as season 1 if not better. Keith had a much needed character development and the season had a proper finale unlike the previous one.

As for the ending. I give kudos to the writers. Whoever replaces Shiro won't have his robot arm, so the black bayard is going to be needed.

For the replacement, Keith is the obvious choice, since he has the Black Lion in the original and the season has be laying it on pretty thick, but this season also show the bond between Keith and Red might just be the strongest among all the Paladins, so I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps the Red Lion and someone else takes Black... Like Princess Allura. After all, pink glow is pretty close to purple glow. :heh:

Now, Shiro himself, my first guest is that he has been teleported somewhere in the universe and is stranded there until half way through season 3. Another guess is that he has become one with the Black Lion.



Space Mall is the best episode. EVER

I saw it as a parody/homage to Paul Blart - Mall Cop. :heh:

[quigonkenny]

Now, Shiro himself, my first guest is that he has been teleported somewhere in the universe and is stranded there until half way through season 3. Another guess is that he has become one with the Black Lion.
I believe either the original Japanese series or the original Voltron series had a somewhat similar development with the character(s) analogous to Shiro. Something about being separated from the team and imprisoned by the bad guys...

And I'm betting a lot of people have been waiting two seasons for those last three words Hagar utters...

And speaking of Lotor, I'm wondering if we've already seen him. They never did say who that masked Galra was who was stealing wormhole rocks... Should be either him or Mama Keith.

[TnAdct1]

I believe either the original Japanese series or the original Voltron series had a somewhat similar development with the character(s) analogous to Shiro. Something about being separated from the team and imprisoned by the bad guys... That was in the original Voltron series (as his Japanese equivalent is killed in GoLion).

[RDNexus]

ANN: Voltron: Legendary Defender Season 3 Slated for 2017 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-04/voltron-legendary-defender-season-3-slated-for-2017/.114331)

[Galaxian]

The first teaser for season 3 has surfaced. It reveals August 4 as the premier date.

[Illsteir]

The first teaser for season 3 has surfaced. It reveals August 4 as the premier date.
Here it is:
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[Galaxian]

Second Season 3 trailer is out...

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[Random14]

Yay, August 4! The downside is that its only seven episodes this time instead of thirteen, but I think they said the next batch after that is in October. So shorter "seasons" but more often, which sound good to me (just hope they don't use too many cliffhangers).

So the big question is of course what happens to the Black Lion now. Too bad none of the other lions can sub in and form the head (one of the few good ideas from that last awful series), but looking forward to the next season.

[Galaxian]

There was another trailer shown at the SDCC panel (they also saw the first episode of the new season), it has a completely different tone to this one and it's very spoiler heavy.

[Illsteir]

New trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy6BXq0Pg6A

Looks like Lotor has a harem (0:52)
And is that Haggar's cat (0:30)?

[orion]

Yay, August 4! The downside is that its only seven episodes this time instead of thirteen, but I think they said the next batch after that is in October. So shorter "seasons" but more often, which sound good to me (just hope they don't use too many cliffhangers).

So the big question is of course what happens to the Black Lion now. Too bad none of the other lions can sub in and form the head (one of the few good ideas from that last awful series), but looking forward to the next season.

Princess Allura becomes the pilot, I bet. :)

[Illsteir]

Just watched all of it and I think it's the weakest season by far.
The back stories made it up for it though.

Holy crap, the writers managed to insert Sven here! Accent and all!

[Random14]

Yeah, its a bit of a step down from the first two seasons. I just hope the next chunk of episodes make up for it. Several sub-plots are still on hold (like Pidge's and Keith's families).

The new piloting arrangements took a bit of a convoluted route. As I expected, despite how the first two seasons portrayed a close relationship between pilot and lion, here they switch around kind of fast. Its nice to see Lance more serious though. I kind of wish Lance had just stayed with the blue lion, though it was a thrill to see Allura in the pink suit, and to see them in the traditional spots.

And not sure how I feel about the plot expanding into multiversal danger. A mirror universe with Sven (accent and all) was kind of fun though. Lotor's kind of like Azura, complete with super-skilled miniboss squad. The flashback/origin episode was good (Haggar and her cat), glad to get more background. Although I'm left wondering where Lotor came from then, considering what happened to their minds. And looks like Shiro's in for even more suffering, but at least he's back (though still missing time).

[ReddyRedWolf]

The Blade of Malmora is at an interesting position. They formed as a counter to excess of the Galra Empire in conquering the universe. Knowing in the long run it would be bad for the Galra as they can't secure their territories. By joining Voltron they have effectively become freedom fighters in bringing down the Garla empire.

Here is the thing. The Blade of Malmora aren't appreciated by the conquered people because they are Garla. A call back to the distrust Allura had when she discovered Keith is a half-Galra. At the same time a moderate has taken over the empire. Lotor isn't saying the Galra shouldn't conquer the universe but treat their conquered people fairly and let them assimilate. It is not that Lotor is nice, see what happened to Throk, but he is pragmatic in enlightened self interest. The territories he has sounds like what the Space Mall are on. The only oppression is from a Mall Cop.

The aftermath of Season 2 has left both Voltron and the Garla Empire headless. Now both Keith and Lotor will step up on the plate. Given they likely already met the rivalry would be interesting. Lotor may not just see him as a worthy opponent but a potential ally as he is a half Garla.

While there are complaints in the Garla officers of Lotor employing half-Garla generals I'm more convinced Lotor is like Lance who just wants an alien harem.

[orion]

Yeah, its a bit of a step down from the first two seasons. I just hope the next chunk of episodes make up for it. Several sub-plots are still on hold (like Pidge's and Keith's families).

The new piloting arrangements took a bit of a convoluted route. As I expected, despite how the first two seasons portrayed a close relationship between pilot and lion, here they switch around kind of fast. Its nice to see Lance more serious though. I kind of wish Lance had just stayed with the blue lion, though it was a thrill to see Allura in the pink suit, and to see them in the traditional spots.

And not sure how I feel about the plot expanding into multiversal danger. A mirror universe with Sven (accent and all) was kind of fun though. Lotor's kind of like Azura, complete with super-skilled miniboss squad. The flashback/origin episode was good (Haggar and her cat), glad to get more background. Although I'm left wondering where Lotor came from then, considering what happened to their minds. And looks like Shiro's in for even more suffering, but at least he's back (though still missing time).


About Shiro....

Can you really say "he's" back? This one is a clone.

So.. does this mean that Lotor is Hagar's son?

[DMurphy]

Regarding Shiro being a clone: That's not been confirmed.

[orion]

Regarding Shiro being a clone: That's not been confirmed.


It was announced in that escape episode that they were beginning the experiment as the pod descended to that planet. He even had a brief flashback about being used because he had a response. Plus, the Black Lion didn't let Shiro back into the cockpit.

[DMurphy]

It was announced in that escape episode that they were beginning the experiment as the pod descended to that planet. He even had a brief flashback about being used because he had a response. Plus, the Black Lion didn't let Shiro back into the cockpit.

Sigh.

It was announced that 'Project Kuron' was entering its third phase, but that doesn't mean 'this Shiro is a clone.' It means that they most likely let him go intentionally, but that doesn't mean he's a clone, and nor does the Black Lion not letting him back in. We don't even know if the Galra have cloning technology, they've never indicated that they do before.

Other possibilities:

Shiro has been brainwashed and is a sleeper agent who will take the Black Lion back to the Galra.

Shiro has been possessed by whatever interdimensional goo creatures seem to have taken up residence in Haggar and Zarkon.

Shiro's actually fine, the Black Lion just doesn't recognise him as leader anymore,
and Project Kuron just involves putting a tracker in him or something.

This isn't a clone, but it is an alternate universe Shiro.

Never assume you know something when what you mean is that you believe it. That's a very quick way to end up disappointed and confused.

[Galaxian]

Season 4 (though really it's the rest of S3) will come out October 13th according to the teaser.

[orion]

Sigh.

It was announced that 'Project Kuron' was entering its third phase, but that doesn't mean 'this Shiro is a clone.' It means that they most likely let him go intentionally, but that doesn't mean he's a clone, and nor does the Black Lion not letting him back in. We don't even know if the Galra have cloning technology, they've never indicated that they do before.

Other possibilities:

Shiro has been brainwashed and is a sleeper agent who will take the Black Lion back to the Galra.

Shiro has been possessed by whatever interdimensional goo creatures seem to have taken up residence in Haggar and Zarkon.

Shiro's actually fine, the Black Lion just doesn't recognise him as leader anymore,
and Project Kuron just involves putting a tracker in him or something.

This isn't a clone, but it is an alternate universe Shiro.

Never assume you know something when what you mean is that you believe it. That's a very quick way to end up disappointed and confused.



I doubt I'll be confused. It's pretty easy to follow.

[Galaxian]

Something I made for season 3:

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[shadow1296]

okay this half season was just not good, it starts with a cliche episode about keith not being fulfill his voltron duties because of his mamora duties just so they can make shiro black's pilot again, and it really didn't get better, there was one standout episode though and that was an episode about pidge's brother which would have been an emotional episode if the netflix thumbnail for the episode didn't already reveal what was going to happen

[Dark Wing]

Having finally watched the entire series so far I have a confession....I am a shameless Lotor x Allura shipper. There I said it!

[Yu Ominae]

Watched the sixth season in one go and I’m doing the seventh to catch up.

[foxbox360]

Having finally watched the entire series so far I have a confession....I am a shameless Lotor x Allura shipper. There I said it!

you are in for a disappointment for that ship comes season 6.:upset:

[orion]

you are in for a disappointment for that ship comes season 6.:upset:

I wasn't. I'm on the Keith ship. :heh:

He's the only one that unites all 3 species by marriage. Now if his mom is related to the royal family, then it's a done deal. :)

[Random14]

The only downside is that there's only one more season to go. The show's had a great run, I'm glad this last season they went back to the full 13 episodes rather than the half-seasons they were releasing for a while.

[Yu Ominae]

Eight season is out for a while now.

I'll have to binge it.

[orion]

Eight season is out for a while now.

I'll have to binge it.

Have fun! :uhoh::heh: