Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut (Undefeated Bahamut Chronicle) Anticipation

[Stark700]

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Plot Summary:
The story of the light novel series revolves around Lux, a former prince of an empire named Arcadia that was overthrown via a rebellion five years earlier. Lux accidentally trespasses in a female dormitory's bathing area, sees the kingdom's new princess Lisesharte naked, and incurs her wrath. Lisesharte then challenges Lux to a Drag-Ride duel. Drag-Rides are ancient armored mechanical weapons that have been excavated from ruins all around the world. Lux used to be called the strongest Drag-Knight, but now he's known as the "undefeated weakest" Drag-Knight because he will absolutely not attack in battle. After his duel with Lisesharte, Lux ends up attending the female-only academy that trains royals to be Drag-Knights. (ANN)

It looks like Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut is getting an anime adaptation.

Director: Masaomi Ando
Character Design: Keiko Kurosawa
Studio: Lerche

Anime announcement video:
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Official site:
http://saijaku.jp/

[cloud04]

well expected sooner or later it was gonna have especially since rakudai got one and both mangas appeared just 1-2 weeks apart
although o.o the vid is under MF? o.O

[Mitcher]

Sweet! Although I expected it to come out in 2016 or so, this is great.

Kurulucifer. :D

[Kismet-chan]

The LN art is very nice. I'll give it that much. But the premise and characters just sound like the same thing I've seen again and again and again.

[Eisdrache]

I'll never understand the 'I have seen this many times before therefore I don't like it anymore' argument. Not only does it apply to basically every show in every season but also as long as you enjoy the setting, why would you care if there are other stories with a similar plot.

Regardless, having a positive impression from the chapters that I have read I do look forward to seeing this animated.

[MisaoFan]

Full staff announced:
Director: Masaomi Ando
Series Composition: Yuko Kakihara
Character Design: Keiko Kurosawa
3DCG: Orange
Animation Production: Lerche

It's nice to see Lerche works on a series whose CGI effects doesn't belong to Larx Entertainment (which do well that department in most of the studio's series) so that's fine. It seems Ayumu Kasuga is responsible for the artwork for an anime adaptation for the third time as well. As far the PV goes, music sounded a bit like Tatsuya Katou though considering his repetitive music gimmicks used in his recent works as of late, I can already see where it'll be handled.

Premise-wise, it's prettily unoriginal but I liked the idea of having a hero who used to be strong and then loses his strength all of a sudden due to a shred of dark past and therefore he wants to go back to his old days. Whatever that said, I'll see where it goes.

[Zakoo]

So hyped for this I'm ready

http://i.imgur.com/FlKl0TP.gif

[cloud04]

Full staff announced:
Director: Masaomi Ando
Series Composition: Yuko Kakihara
Character Design: Keiko Kurosawa
3DCG: Orange
Animation Production: Lerche

It's nice to see Lerche works on a series whose CGI effects doesn't belong to Larx Entertainment (which do well that department in most of the studio's series) so that's fine. It seems Ayumu Kasuga is responsible for the artwork for an anime adaptation for the third time as well. As far the PV goes, music sounded a bit like Tatsuya Katou though considering his repetitive music gimmicks used in his recent works as of late, I can already see where it'll be handled.

Premise-wise, it's prettily unoriginal but I liked the idea of having a hero who used to be strong and then loses his strength all of a sudden due to a shred of dark past and therefore he wants to go back to his old days. Whatever that said, I'll see where it goes.

have you read the series?

[Sacredus]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally! I loved LN's!

@cloud04
Probably not. At least he didn't call it IS ripoff (and we all know it's coming). And since I mentioned about it. Bahamut is so ****** better that IS. Story, characters, fights... and sadly peopple will compare this to shitty IS (meh story, Char is only good written character and fights are... just kinda ok) because "armors looks similar!111" xP

[MisaoFan]

have you read the series?

I don't think so. Will still give the anime a shot though.

[Eisdrache]

I'm pretty sure you didn't since your summary(?) is slightly off.

[cloud04]

Summary is pretty much what vol 1/manga summaries look like

[Valky]

Lerche is quite busy this year. Good for them.

Still got the LN in my backlog, I guess I'll read it after the anime finish.

[The One Above God]

First Rakudai, now this?! :heh: If both of them end up in the same season then it'd be great :heh: Or at least in subsequent seasons

[MisaoFan]

I'm pretty sure you didn't since your summary(?) is slightly off.

Let me quote what I said before by expressing thoughts of what I think about the premise alone:

I liked the idea of having a hero who used to be strong and then loses his strength all of a sudden due to a shred of dark past and therefore he wants to go back to his old days.

[moodie]

wow all these titles getting me excited! thx god these ln adaptions are being spread out to different studios cuz last time we have 2 harems by 1 studio. Kinda ruined the the quality.

[RaymondSageClark]

Yay another harem full of cliche like everything else on the previous season ....

[tsunade666]

Well this is nice to pass time. Nice visuals.

[Frontier]

Hey, it looks like Bell from DanMachi grew up, switched eye colors with the Heroine, and became a prince :heh:.

The Mecha design, while some look a little IS-ish, seems really cool and the one in the Key Visual looks pretty sweet :cool:.

I also quite like the character designs :).

Masaomi Ando is a serviceable director, even if often he ends up working on shows that suffer from QUALITY and budget issues, and Yuuko Kakihara did a pretty good job scriptwise on Machine-Doll in my opinion. So not a bad staff there ;).

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

unfortunately i'm gonna be the guy to say it but Bahamut is a poor man's Infinite Stratos you heard me right POOR MAN's. IS has better characters and thus far executed what it does better. IS's main weakness (besides Ichika being ur typical dense harem character) is the fact that from the translated parts it severely lacks a story. Bahamut has a decent storyline but its weaker in almost everything else. It feels more like Bahamut just took IS's idea gave it a bit of a story and hoped that it would be enough to sell.

[bakato]

unfortunately i'm gonna be the guy to say it but Bahamut is a poor man's Infinite Stratos you heard me right POOR MAN's. IS has better characters and thus far executed what it does better. IS's main weakness (besides Ichika being ur typical dense harem character) is the fact that from the translated parts it severely lacks a story. Bahamut has a decent storyline but its weaker in almost everything else. It feels more like Bahamut just took IS's idea gave it a bit of a story and hoped that it would be enough to sell.

At least this guy

can win on his own.

[Sacredus]

unfortunately i'm gonna be the guy to say it but Bahamut is a poor man's Infinite Stratos you heard me right POOR MAN's. IS has better characters and thus far executed what it does better. IS's main weakness (besides Ichika being ur typical dense harem character) is the fact that from the translated parts it severely lacks a story. Bahamut has a decent storyline but its weaker in almost everything else. It feels more like Bahamut just took IS's idea gave it a bit of a story and hoped that it would be enough to sell.

So you came here to troll, huh? IS and good characters? Where? Who (beside Charlotte)? That is lame joke or just provocation. Maybe Bahamut was inspired by IS, but is better at any point that than "original" (well, maybe beside fanservice - but when series exist just to show patsu...).

[Wandering Soul]

Was waiting for this to get an anime ever since Rakudai and Gakusen got animes. Too bad I can already see all the incoming IS comparsions.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

So you came here to troll, huh? IS and good characters? Where? Who (beside Charlotte)? That is lame joke or just provocation. Maybe Bahamut was inspired by IS, but is better at any point that than "original" (well, maybe beside fanservice - but when series exist just to show patsu...).

I hardly came to troll im just one of those people that wont say o this show is perfect just because i like it. As for better characters thats an opinion frankly and there's nothing wrong with that.

[RaymondSageClark]

I hardly came to troll im just one of those people that wont say o this show is perfect just because i like it. As for better characters thats an opinion frankly and there's nothing wrong with that.

I agree with you about your previous post and IS (just because IS is more interesting than bahamut or the other one, can't remember the name). BUT, you're lying because you always said your show is better than everything else on the forum, is matter to check all other threads and how you get nailed every time.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

I agree with you about your previous post and IS (just because IS is more interesting than bahamut or the other one, can't remember the name). BUT, you're lying because you always said your show is better than everything else on the forum, is matter to check all other threads and how you get nailed every time.

Hm thats a fair view i do get nailed sometimes.

The sad fact is that its being put out the same time as Rakudai Kishi because those two are carbon copies of one another just a different setting. The character roles are frightenly similar which makes it even funnier. Well lets see what happens.

[IceHism]

Is this GA bunko?

[GreyZone]

Hmm... can anyone tell me how this (the source material) compares to Rakudai LN and Gakusen Toshi LN? If this got its own strong points in the source material, I may consider taking a look at the anime and/or the source material.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Hmm... can anyone tell me how this (the source material) compares to Rakudai LN and Gakusen Toshi LN? If this got its own strong points in the source material, I may consider taking a look at the anime and/or the source material.

As far as Rakudai goes IMO the two of them play out very similarly character wise and the only major difference is the role of the MC. Gakusen Toshi is a completely different monster compared to both. My advice is if it interests you as an idea read the source material though the person who wrote the summary at the begining is 100% wrong and doenst seem to have read the material.

[Eisdrache]

unfortunately i'm gonna be the guy to say it but Bahamut is a poor man's Infinite Stratos you heard me right POOR MAN's. IS has better characters and thus far executed what it does better. IS's main weakness (besides Ichika being ur typical dense harem character) is the fact that from the translated parts it severely lacks a story. Bahamut has a decent storyline but its weaker in almost everything else. It feels more like Bahamut just took IS's idea gave it a bit of a story and hoped that it would be enough to sell.

IS is similar to DAL in the sense that you mainly watch the show for the designs. Certainly not for the story and definitely not for character development. To begin with, IS and Bahamut aren't even that similar to begin with so comparing them makes little to no sense.

[Estzero1]

Is this GA bunko?

Jap, it is. There are a few GA Bunko adaptation recently.

[Asuras]

Not only does it apply to basically every show in every season but also as long as you enjoy the setting, why would you care if there are other stories with a similar plot.

You're right. Nothing is original. Originality as an idea is pretty paradoxical, considering everything that is made is ultimately a variation of things that already exist or have been done before.

There's modifying an idea, and then there's following a an over-used formula to the 'T'. In most cases nowadays, when people complain about seeing something too much, it's because the series is another offender in the long line of atrociously formulaic plots and characters.

There are two problems here:
1) Taking a formula that on its own is used and abused far too much
2) Changing very little with the formula, or using additions/options that are similarly over-used.

There's nothing inherently wrong with using a certain formula, but doing nothing particularly novel with it (as most fail to do) makes for a series that seems all the more like a carbon-copy. You get bored of them.

[Kismet-chan]

I'll never understand the 'I have seen this many times before therefore I don't like it anymore' argument. Not only does it apply to basically every show in every season but also as long as you enjoy the setting, why would you care if there are other stories with a similar plot.

Believe it or not, not everyone likes seeing the same thing over and over. Go figure. It's called having a preference and people are entitled to whatever theirs is.

[Zakoo]

God people didn't even bother reading the LN and already get bias just by seeing one video and reading one summary.

I will write it now, all those anime aren't the same, they all have differences, if you can't see them it's simply because you are either biased or because they don't suit your taste, no problem it's human, I have the same issue with all sports and FPS video games, but don't bother shittying your hate here please.

[Amiluhur]

Because we're on a thread about the premises and summaries of upcoming TV show. Hence it follows that people are going to comment based on said premises and summaries. At least til the show air, you can't really blame people for judging it based on how it's trying to present itself on the surface.

[Zakoo]

Because we're on a thread about the premises and summaries of upcoming TV show. Hence it follows that people are going to comment based on said premises and summaries. At least til the show air, you can't really blame people for judging it based on how it's trying to present itself on the surface.

I totally can, instead of being emotive and begin to talk crap, better be rational -Do not judge a book based on its cover-.

[Amiluhur]

Then you're basically asking people to read the book first before commenting, which in essence is the complete opposite of the whole purpose of this thread.

[Trung-t-rung]

unfortunately i'm gonna be the guy to say it but Bahamut is a poor man's Infinite Stratos you heard me right POOR MAN's. IS has better characters and thus far executed what it does better. IS's main weakness (besides Ichika being ur typical dense harem character) is the fact that from the translated parts it severely lacks a story. Bahamut has a decent storyline but its weaker in almost everything else. It feels more like Bahamut just took IS's idea gave it a bit of a story and hoped that it would be enough to sell.

Except Bahamut is superior to IS in probably every way.
IS doesn't even bother to develop its characters right. We never got to see the conflict in Cecilia household and how her father left. We also never got any plot line involved Char's father and how her father just force his own daughter to become a boy and her own feeling about that. We know that Houki doesn't like her sister but we also never saw the dynamic between them or their parents.
The less said about Ichika's incompetence the better.
Evry fucking battles is tournament format save for the Gospel fight. Almost every volumes follows the "harem hijinks + tournaments + tournaments interrupted + girls fight while Ichika being useless support."
Bahamut actually bothers to develop its character in their own arc and even in later arcs, their problems and past still matters to the plot.
We got political shitstorm, awesome fight scenes with ACTUAL STAKES and character developments for each fights.
And thanks God, the characters actually use their mecha suit like their were supposed to be, F*CKING SUPERWEAPON!, only used during training, missions and self-defense instead of using them at pools or for catfights.:frustrated::frustrated:

IS is similar to DAL in the sense that you mainly watch the show for the designs. Certainly not for the story and definitely not for character development. To begin with, IS and Bahamut aren't even that similar to begin with so comparing them makes little to no sense.

I'm not sure how DAL is similar to IS, it got actual plot, twists and turns and an interesting villain instead of harem hijinks nad the plot JUST BEING WASTED!:frustrated:

[Zakoo]

Then you're basically asking people to read the book first before commenting, which in essence is the complete opposite of the whole purpose of this thread.

No maybe let's just talk about what we can, graphic, music, video quality, let's even try to do a bingo, will the blue pettanko character be a tsundere or a yandere, will the hero be a donkan or have some guts ...

Instead of being affirmative about things without any proof (IS rip off, shitty harem anime) we can instead try to be interrogative ...

Thus what I said, let's try to be rational for once instead of emotional. Anime is like food, if before eating you think it's going to be disgusting you won't ever like it.

[Amiluhur]

No maybe let's just talk about what we can, graphic, music, video quality, let's even try to do a bingo, will the blue pettanko character be a tsundere or a yandere, will the hero be a donkan or have some guts ...
What're you even talking about? The commercial video doesn't reveal much aside from some still images of the characters. Let alone the personalities of each heroines. So what's there to comment about all these?

Instead of being affirmative about things without any proof (IS rip off, shitty harem anime) we can instead try to be interrogative ...
Is it really too much to ask that you accept that people can make reasonable predictions about the future based on current evidence? If it makes you happy, I'll acknowledge that as a golden rule people won't know with complete certainty what a show is like without actually seeing it (I never actually said otherwise). Is it possible that this show will totally play its generic premise straight? I suppose. But again, it seems totally naive, knowing anything about anime, to say this is at all likely. Hence the reason why some people have little enthusiasm and very low expectations for it.

Thus what I said, let's try to be rational for once instead of emotional. Anime is like food, if before eating you think it's going to be disgusting you won't ever like it.
As far as i'm concerned, nobody's being emotional here.

[Eisdrache]

Believe it or not, not everyone likes seeing the same thing over and over. Go figure. It's called having a preference and people are entitled to whatever theirs is.

There is nothing wrong with having a preference.

There is something wrong however with calling the story 'the usual harem crap' (in whatever variation) without having any knowledge of the source. There are several people who do read the LN and will gladly give their insight whether your worries are justified or not. Although this does require a somewhat open mindset.

The best way is to get an impression yourself, at least in my opinion. Watch 2-3 episodes and drop it if it's not to your tastes.

[moodie]

For ppl who think looking at the synopsis and cover means u know it's generic here's something for u. Watch bladedance and world break.2 similar looking anime but completely different

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Yare yare i acknowledge that IS lacks a quality story but whatever. This will be interesting and having read the source i am looking forward to it.

[IceHism]

Jap, it is. There are a few GA Bunko adaptation recently.

I'm surprised at all the GA bunko adaptions recently yea. I guess they are having some sort of festival. Of which I really only expected danmachi to get an anime

[Nachtwandler]

There was their 10th anniversary recently

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

God people didn't even bother reading the LN and already get bias just by seeing one video and reading one summary.A large majority of people also never read the novels of Jurassic Park, Die Hard, Jaws, and LOTR. But they can still appreciate good movies after they “blindly” saw the aforementioned movies without even touching the source material. Some people talking negative about the premise is normal (believe it or not, some people also mocked & made fun of Jurassic Park’s premise before it shown in theaters). What matters is the execution of the actual stuff. Let’s together see how good this adaptation really is as an anime later when it airs.

I totally can, instead of being emotive and begin to talk crap, better be rational -Do not judge a book based on its cover-.As far as anime-watchers go, so far, this series only provided a premise and PV that consist largely of still shots that we can’t even begin to judge the quality of it. So, some people commenting on (not necessarily judging) the premise is just fine. Let them decide whether they want to stick with this series until the first episode airs or not. That’s what advertisement is for.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

The biggest mistake in this case is the summary that the dude gave its totally wrong and that will confuse people more then anything else. Make no mistake i like Bahamut but i dont think its well suited for an anime and when u compare it to recent stories and whats flopped and done well this one leads more towards the flop category ANIME-wise the story is quite good but anime wise it leaves a lot to be desired.

For anime only watchers i will simply say this. The first 2 episodes if it follows the material properly for a 3 volume 1 cour will be extremely bad for many people who like this genre. Wait until episode 4 before you judge it because that will be the key to the series.

[Galaxian]

Are Bahamut, Hundred, and Cavalry coming out in the same season? Because they are basically the same anime.

[moodie]

Are Bahamut, Hundred, and Cavalry coming out in the same season? Because they are basically the same anime.

They said that about last season

This joke is getting old

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

For ppl who think looking at the synopsis and cover means u know it's generic here's something for u. Watch bladedance and world break.2 similar looking anime but completely differentIt really doesn’t help your argument when your examples are also two generic harem-fantasy anime. In this case, people who judged the anime as being generic are right :heh: (we're talking about anime here). And yes, I’ve seen both of them.

Yes, the story might be better in LN and the anime might benefit from more seasons, but as is, they're both generic harem-fantasy anime series.

[moodie]

It really doesn’t help your argument when your examples are also two generic harem-fantasy anime. In this case, people who judged the anime as being generic are right :heh: (we're talking about anime here). And yes, I’ve seen both of them.

Yes, the story might be better in LN and the anime might benefit from more seasons, but as is, they're both generic harem-fantasy anime series.

yes they are "generic" but the stories are completely different...isnt the point of ppl ridiculing genericness claiming that its all the same copy and pasted material.

i picked the 2 most identically "generic" ln adaption and they are far from the same

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

yes they are "generic" but the stories are completely different...isnt the point of ppl ridiculing genericness claiming that its all the same copy and pasted material.No kidding. No two stories are ever the same. Otherwise, the author will be lambasted for plagiarism :heh:. The keyword here is that they’re “similar”. There are always differing factors in each work but both share the same blue-print. People complain about multiple “generic anime series” when they share the same basic genre-blueprint but did nothing special with it. Granted, what’s “special” is subjective, but the complain is still valid, subjectively speaking.

[moodie]

No kidding. No two stories are ever the same. Otherwise, the author will be lambasted for plagiarism :heh:. The keyword here is that they’re “similar”. There are always differing factors in each work but both share the same blue-print. People complain about multiple “generic anime series” when they share the same basic genre-blueprint but did nothing special with it. Granted, what’s “special” is subjective, but the complain is still valid, subjectively speaking.

but isnt that exactly how shoujos are? now i could use any other genres but most shoujos ive seen are basically as similar as most harems but no one seems to go on a discussion spree about it. usually genres fall under their tropes and cliches but it seems like harem is the biggest target of the hate.

i just dont understand it....its like someone calling my child ugly...i cant take it

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

but isnt that exactly how shoujos are? now i could use any other genres but most shoujos ive seen are basically as similar as most harems but no one seems to go on a discussion spree about it. usually genres fall under their tropes and cliches but it seems like harem is the biggest target of the hate.

i just dont understand it....its like someone calling my child ugly...i cant take itNo, shoujo is a veeery broad genre, just like shounen. Maybe what you meant is “reverse-harem” or “otome series” where female MC is surrounded by pretty boys? As for why those never get as much flak, well, maybe because most of the guys never watched and never interested in them? So, they don’t have anything to say about them? :heh:

As for why harem-fantasy genre is the biggest target of “same-ness”, maybe that’s because they’re restricting themselves due to their own nature. Usually, it’s always come down to a lone male MC with some kind of special power in the setting where he can be surrounded by girls and the said archetypical girls falling for him one-by-one while he is continuing on his own mission which indirectly charms the girls. Usually, the said male MC have to fight mini-bosses in each arc or fight a final boss in an overarching story with the support of his harems. That's it.

With Mecha-genre, you can go practically everywhere with the story as long as there’s humanoid mechas that the characters can pilot (see how drastically different Gundam, Evangelion, & Code Geass are from each other). The same can be said to other genre such as Sci-fi, Space Opera, High fantasy epic, Horror, Thriller, Comedy, etc. There’s more room to develop a unique story than harem that “follow the rules”. That’s why people love, for example, The Devil is a Part-timer coz it broke free from the standard and focusing more on the fish-out-of-water comedy, not on how the male MC wooing the girls.

[moodie]

Damn that was an insightful post thx u tbh

First time someone discussed something about anime without attacking or using insults

Sorry mods if I got off track

[Frontier]

Are Bahamut, Hundred, and Cavalry coming out in the same season? Because they are basically the same anime.
I can see that for Bahamut and Hundred, but from what I've seen and read about Cavalry, it's much more different compared to the other two and what people assume it is. It's apparently not even a Harem, which automatically set them very much apart :heh:.

[Darthtabby]

As for why harem-fantasy genre is the biggest target of “same-ness”, maybe that’s because they’re restricting themselves due to their own nature. Usually, it’s always come down to a lone male MC with some kind of special power in the setting where he can be surrounded by girls and the said archetypical girls falling for him one-by-one while he is continuing on his own mission which indirectly charms the girls. Usually, the said male MC have to fight mini-bosses in each arc or fight a final boss in an overarching story with the support of his harems. That's it.

Personally, one thing that bugs me about a lot of these series is how many of them are set in some sort of magic academy (re: high school). I'd like to see more straight up fantasy series that aren't bound to a school setting.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Personally, one thing that bugs me about a lot of these series is how many of them are set in some sort of magic academy (re: high school). I'd like to see more straight up fantasy series that aren't bound to a school setting.

Thats because school life settings are the best way to keep harems in a controlled setting. School life settings also give u the big harem events like hot springs and beach trips. Of course the most important reason School girl uniforms are the best way to emphasize huge boobs. :heh:

[Trung-t-rung]

Thats because school life settings are the best way to keep harems in a controlled setting. School life settings also give u the big harem events like hot springs and beach trips. Of course the most important reason School girl uniforms are the best way to emphasize huge boobs. :heh:

Well, it's not like the series actually focus that much on school setting.
The best way I can describe the setting without spoiling anything is that it's more like what you'd expect from Index Science side arc. The school for more SoL scene and battles at exotic locations or within the city.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Well, it's not like the series actually focus that much on school setting.
The best way I can describe the setting without spoiling anything is that it's more like what you'd expect from Index Science side arc. The school for more SoL scene and battles at exotic locations or within the city.

make no mistake i know bahamut so i know what happened i simply responded to the question of why so many of these shows take place in school settings.

[Trung-t-rung]

make no mistake i know bahamut so i know what happened i simply responded to the question of why so many of these shows take place in school settings.

It's more relatable to its group of readers. Some school setting are more justified than other more justified than other.

[dmaxzero]

Remember also that these Light Novels are done for the japanese market, in this case for school/high school people. So, its relatable and caters on ideals and fantasies typical to that age.

[Zakoo]

The sole thing I　know　is　that　if　you　guys　have　enough　of　the　high 　school　setting,　when　this　new　wave　of　trans ported in another world/resurected with previous life memories/getting cheat power is going to get adapted, you are going to cry.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

The sole thing I　know　is　that　if　you　guys　have　enough　of　the　high 　school　setting,　when　this　new　wave　of　trans ported in another world/resurected with previous life memories/getting cheat power is going to get adapted, you are going to cry.Or, you know, we can always look for other series as an alternative watch during the season. Speaking in the same harem-fantasy genre, we can always look for better series if, for example, this would-be anime doesn’t impress us in the first five episodes or so. And if there’s nothing good in the harem-fantasy genre, we can always turn to other genres for better watch. So, we can always be on the sideline watching these “similar” harem-fantasy series milk itself dry until something comes up from the said genre that’s unique enough to interest us (eg, Hataraku Maou-sama, Outbreak Company, No Game No Life, etc). In short, we can just wait until something special appears, no crying needed.

[Izayoi Sakamaki]

No airing date yet ? I thought October like Rakudai Kishi but nothing, perhaps more infos at Comiket ?

[MisaoFan]

No airing date yet ? I thought October like Rakudai Kishi but nothing, perhaps more infos at Comiket ?

Airdate is winter 2016 maybe.

[~Yami~]

Yes! this one is worth the hype

Similar action scene with IS... but thousand times better hero and heroine..

[Newprimus]

I think speculation on the series and how it'll go is fair, but a lot of people here are outright judging the series purely based on the type of story it is.

I see IS comparisons. To be honest, you can compare this to Rakudai, IS, Blade Dance, and a whole host of other stories. They all follow the basic outline of a main character thrust into a setting that antagonizes him/her but he/she prevails and overcomes the obstacles with his/her special power. This practically describes potentially millions of stories out there. Hell, even Blazing Saddles of all things is like this. It even features the protagonist unwillingly thrust into the new setting, just like every single one of the LN examples I gave above.

To be honest I can get tired of trends too. I don't mind harem stories, but I'm extremely wary of any story that I dub the "TateYuusha clone." Shieldbro probably isn't the first story of its kind, but there's been this huge onpour of TateYuusha web/light novel clones: all about a marginalized main character who gets transported into an alternative universe where he's STILL marginalized, but he overcomes his obstacles through a special power, sheer effort, or through some piece of knowledge that is ordinary in his original world but is unique in the alternative one. The reason why I'm harder on these stories than some harem flick, is because these stories have a very strong moral stance. The protagonist is persecuted, the world is wrong, and he/she is the one in the right. The story has to do a really good job convincing the audience of its morality, or else they don't take the protagonist's side and thus do not believe in the story. Harem stories usually do not try to preach such a strong moral distinction.

In the end, what this means is that mostly subjective tastes. I don't mind harem antics, but TateYuusha clones put me on an initial alert and it takes a reading to see if it stands on its own merit. Still, I don't judge for sure until I've had a taste of it.

As for this series, I've read the first two volumes and it does get some things right. One, all the heroines are likeable. The tsundere mellows out pretty fast. Also the protagonist's initially strange way of fighting makes sense later. I'm not entirely onboard with the appeal of drag-rides. Their concept in context of the story is more or less exactly the same as IS units and Blade Dance's spirits. All of these enable their user to achieve supernatural abilities, and all these stories feature schools focused on training people in their use. I however greatly prefer Blade Dance's implementation for a sole reason: They are actual characters.

Also I didn't really feel the harem antics either. Other series seem to do it better. Once again I favor Blade Dance's way of doing it.

Still, Bahamut's MC gets really badass when he pulls out the stops. Much more than Ichika from IS.

[BladeMancer]

I think speculation on the series and how it'll go is fair, but a lot of people here are outright judging the series purely based on the type of story it is.

I see IS comparisons. To be honest, you can compare this to Rakudai, IS, Blade Dance, and a whole host of other stories. They all follow the basic outline of a main character thrust into a setting that antagonizes him/her but he/she prevails and overcomes the obstacles with his/her special power. This practically describes potentially millions of stories out there. Hell, even Blazing Saddles of all things is like this. It even features the protagonist unwillingly thrust into the new setting, just like every single one of the LN examples I gave above.

To be honest I can get tired of trends too. I don't mind harem stories, but I'm extremely wary of any story that I dub the "TateYuusha clone." Shieldbro probably isn't the first story of its kind, but there's been this huge onpour of TateYuusha web/light novel clones: all about a marginalized main character who gets transported into an alternative universe where he's STILL marginalized, but he overcomes his obstacles through a special power, sheer effort, or through some piece of knowledge that is ordinary in his original world but is unique in the alternative one. The reason why I'm harder on these stories than some harem flick, is because these stories have a very strong moral stance. The protagonist is persecuted, the world is wrong, and he/she is the one in the right. The story has to do a really good job convincing the audience of its morality, or else they don't take the protagonist's side and thus do not believe in the story. Harem stories usually do not try to preach such a strong moral distinction.

In the end, what this means is that mostly subjective tastes. I don't mind harem antics, but TateYuusha clones put me on an initial alert and it takes a reading to see if it stands on its own merit. Still, I don't judge for sure until I've had a taste of it.

As for this series, I've read the first two volumes and it does get some things right. One, all the heroines are likeable. The tsundere mellows out pretty fast. Also the protagonist's initially strange way of fighting makes sense later. I'm not entirely onboard with the appeal of drag-rides. Their concept in context of the story is more or less exactly the same as IS units and Blade Dance's spirits. All of these enable their user to achieve supernatural abilities, and all these stories feature schools focused on training people in their use. I however greatly prefer Blade Dance's implementation for a sole reason: They are actual characters.

Also I didn't really feel the harem antics either. Other series seem to do it better. Once again I favor Blade Dance's way of doing it.

Still, Bahamut's MC gets really badass when he pulls out the stops. Much more than Ichika from IS.
Agree with the reincarnation/teleported to another world thing. There is too many but I don't mind as long as they are good and they are executed well.

[KnightShade]

I think speculation on the series and how it'll go is fair, but a lot of people here are outright judging the series purely based on the type of story it is.

I see IS comparisons. To be honest, you can compare this to Rakudai, IS, Blade Dance, and a whole host of other stories. They all follow the basic outline of a main character thrust into a setting that antagonizes him/her but he/she prevails and overcomes the obstacles with his/her special power. This practically describes potentially millions of stories out there. Hell, even Blazing Saddles of all things is like this. It even features the protagonist unwillingly thrust into the new setting, just like every single one of the LN examples I gave above.

To be honest I can get tired of trends too. I don't mind harem stories, but I'm extremely wary of any story that I dub the "TateYuusha clone." Shieldbro probably isn't the first story of its kind, but there's been this huge onpour of TateYuusha web/light novel clones: all about a marginalized main character who gets transported into an alternative universe where he's STILL marginalized, but he overcomes his obstacles through a special power, sheer effort, or through some piece of knowledge that is ordinary in his original world but is unique in the alternative one. The reason why I'm harder on these stories than some harem flick, is because these stories have a very strong moral stance. The protagonist is persecuted, the world is wrong, and he/she is the one in the right. The story has to do a really good job convincing the audience of its morality, or else they don't take the protagonist's side and thus do not believe in the story. Harem stories usually do not try to preach such a strong moral distinction.

In the end, what this means is that mostly subjective tastes. I don't mind harem antics, but TateYuusha clones put me on an initial alert and it takes a reading to see if it stands on its own merit. Still, I don't judge for sure until I've had a taste of it.

As for this series, I've read the first two volumes and it does get some things right. One, all the heroines are likeable. The tsundere mellows out pretty fast. Also the protagonist's initially strange way of fighting makes sense later. I'm not entirely onboard with the appeal of drag-rides. Their concept in context of the story is more or less exactly the same as IS units and Blade Dance's spirits. All of these enable their user to achieve supernatural abilities, and all these stories feature schools focused on training people in their use. I however greatly prefer Blade Dance's implementation for a sole reason: They are actual characters.

Also I didn't really feel the harem antics either. Other series seem to do it better. Once again I favor Blade Dance's way of doing it.

Still, Bahamut's MC gets really badass when he pulls out the stops. Much more than Ichika from IS.
i think this is why i couldn't stand NGNL...

really hope Bahamut airs this season but i expect winter 2016 as this season is pretty stacked as it is

[Wandering Soul]

Next season is Fall 2015, season after that would winter 2016.

[KnightShade]

Next season is Fall 2015, season after that would winter 2016.

The former is a couple weeks away. You get the point.

[dmaxzero]

At this point I think is unrealistic to think that any story is original in any way to another one, most formulas have already been done and its simply authors trying to tell a tale they feel comfortable with and audience that enjoy them. Now is mostly about who is doing the formula better than who is being original with it.

I do like Bahamut, is not great but is what IS could have been without an overly dense and idiotic Ichika. Though I would like to see a show of this trend without the harem and the romantic element downplayed, postponed to a later part of the story or simply non existant.
The author will need to invest in the world building and character development to keep the show in motion, would be more interesting IMO.

[Esclair]

At this point I think is unrealistic to think that any story is original in any way to another one, most formulas have already been done and its simply authors trying to tell a tale they feel comfortable with and audience that enjoy them. Now is mostly about who is doing the formula better than who is being original with it.



There are a lot of story formulas I wish people DO copy and do their own variation of, but don't...

I'm still waiting for a spiritual successor to Code Geass :(

[Stark700]

Latest key visual
http://i.imgur.com/BDY0uIF.jpg

January (Winter 2016) premiere:

https://twitter.com/saijaku_anime/status/653080116558327808
http://saijaku.jp/

[~Yami~]

Lishtarte is the shortest girl? okay! I thought Anri is so this is surprising :heh:

the art is looking good..
keeping the hype alive

[The One Above God]

That key visual screams harem already :heh:. Wonder how many would get turned off by just seeing that? Hopefully not to many.

[tsunade666]

Who are the girls on the far left? I only read up to vol 2 and didn't bother with spoilers because this series isn't really one of my priorities but more of something to read when there isn't anything to read.

[Stark700]

Mutsumi Tamura: Lux Arcadia
Lynn: Lisesharte Atismata
Yukiyo Fujii: Krulcifer Einfolk
Yurika Kubo: Philuffy Aingram
Risa Taneda: Celistia Ralgris
Ari Ozawa: Airi Arcadia

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-11/mutsumi-tamura-lynn-star-in-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-tv-anime/.94077

[tsunade666]

Mutsumi Tamura: Lux Arcadia
Lynn: Lisesharte Atismata
Yukiyo Fujii: Krulcifer Einfolk
Yurika Kubo: Philuffy Aingram
Risa Taneda: Celistia Ralgris
Ari Ozawa: Airi Arcadia

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-11/mutsumi-tamura-lynn-star-in-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-tv-anime/.94077

Eh? the far left is Airi? though I should have known.

But I still didn't know the blond girl. Celestia Ralgris? ...hmmm >_>

[bakato]

Latest key visual
http://i.imgur.com/BDY0uIF.jpg

January (Winter 2016) premiere:

https://twitter.com/saijaku_anime/status/653080116558327808
http://saijaku.jp/

I don't think their heights are accurate.

[AntonKutovoi]

This harem MC isn't voiced by Matsuoka, why does this MC isn't voiced by Matsuoka? What heresy is this?

[blitz1/2]

This harem MC isn't voiced ny Matsuoka, why does this MC isn't voiced by Matsuoka? What heresy is this?

Because his reign is over.

[bakato]

Because his reign is over.

And thank god.

[Wandering Soul]

Even his reign would come to an end eventually.

[NWJY]

give chance to others

[dmaxzero]

While I am actually bit tired of the school setting magic sword boy story in Light Novels, this one is actually fun to read for me at least. Hope it somewhat delivers, I am not expecting much out of it.

[KnightShade]

Because his reign is over.

more like his schedule is too packed

[AnimeFangirl]

http://i.imgur.com/X8zokIj.png
Bell-sama? You got tired of pwning everything in Danmachi and made your way over here?
I'll watch the first episode, just to say I did. And just to see if it will really be as ridiculous as the description makes it sound. Depending on how good the mecha battles are, this might be decent.

[dark998]

^ I have high hopes for the mecha battles, especially after seeing Orange work with Fafner Exodus and Comet Lucifer.

[KnightShade]

lux's VA is a chick? why!

*cringe

[bakato]

lux's VA is a chick? why!

*cringe

Fine by me. He was always missing a pair.

[~Yami~]

Fine by me. He was always missing a pair.

:heh::heh::heh: oh god this is funny

well, Bell-kun is not a right comparison for Lux
at least we know that Lux is a beast in the battlefield (oh well, it is safe to say that most of the casts are pretty strong)

[Phantomlurker]

Fine by me. He was always missing a pair.

(Tips hat) well played, sir. Well played.

[darkofficer]

That key visual screams harem already :heh:. Wonder how many would get turned off by just seeing that? Hopefully not to many.

i guess people will say it is a IS clone i will bet upon it.

[bakato]

i guess people will say it is a IS clone i will bet upon it.

It is, but that's no reason for demerits. Truth be told, IS was the first real "lone-boy-in-an-all-girls-mecha-school" genre and it blowing up spectacularly wasn't fair to future attempts like this one. Here's my advice, erase the memory of that shit called IS and replace it with your experience with this series. Let us all bury IS in the past and hope it stays there.

[Phantomlurker]

It is, but that's no reason for demerits. Truth be told, IS was the first real "lone-boy-in-an-all-girls-mecha-school" genre and it blowing up spectacularly wasn't fair to future attempts like this one. Here's my advice, erase the memory of that shit called IS and replace it with your experience with this series. Let us all bury IS in the past and hope it stays there.

Is it dead tough? I am pretty sure it tries to keep coming back, one way or another, like some kind of zombie. Maybe we should shoot it in the face with a shotgun, burn the rests and say: never again.
Anyway, is it me, or the ln illustrations look more like anime screenshots than the actual anime visuals?

[bakato]

Is it dead tough? I am pretty sure it tries to keep coming back, one way or another, like some kind of zombie. Maybe we should shoot it in the face with a shotgun, burn the rests and say: never again.
Anyway, is it me, or the ln illustrations look more like anime screenshots than the actual anime visuals?

It's not really IS's fault though. As XFire once said, we're the idiots bringing it back. We can't really help ourselves, we're just too curious about the mysteries left unsolved.

[Phantomlurker]

Correct me if I am wrong but... wasn't the big high school battle harem anime kickstarted by IS? And if gifting is any sign, the reincarnation wave is about to start, making bahamut probably the last anime of the current wave. So, we'll have the closest novel to IS finish what that one started huh?.... weeeird...

[MisaoFan]

Correct me if I am wrong but... wasn't the big high school battle harem anime kickstarted by IS?

It actually came earlier than that, just that Infinite Stratos was responsible for the huge wave of it right now.

[bakato]

Correct me if I am wrong but... wasn't the big high school battle harem anime kickstarted by IS? And if gifting is any sign, the reincarnation wave is about to start, making bahamut probably the last anime of the current wave. So, we'll have the closest novel to IS finish what that one started huh?.... weeeird...

School battle harems wasn't anything new. IS is more known for one male in an all-girls school.

Gifting doesn't really qualify as a reincarnation story in my opinion.

[FlareKnight]

In the end read a few chapters of the manga. Could be interesting to see how this show turns out. Will keep an eye on it.

[bakato]

TRUE, nano.RIPE Perform Undefeated Bahamut Chronicle TV Anime's Theme Songs (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-12/true-nano.ripe-perform-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-tv-anime-theme-songs/.95281)

TRUE's doing the op. I'm getting a bad feeling.

[MisaoFan]

TRUE, nano.RIPE Perform Undefeated Bahamut Chronicle TV Anime's Theme Songs (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-12/true-nano.ripe-perform-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-tv-anime-theme-songs/.95281)

TRUE's doing the op. I'm getting a bad feeling.

How so? I thought her songs were ok but nothing remarkable to write about.

[bakato]

How so? I thought her songs were ok but nothing remarkable to write about.

Exactly and I looked into their track record, which is short.

[dark998]

TRUE, nano.RIPE Perform Undefeated Bahamut Chronicle TV Anime's Theme Songs (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-12/true-nano.ripe-perform-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-tv-anime-theme-songs/.95281)

TRUE's doing the op. I'm getting a bad feeling.

Id rather have TRUE doing the OP than nano.earRAPE, to be honest.

[Stark700]

Coming 1/11

Character Designs/Visuals for the upcoming series:
http://i.imgur.com/rL0245a.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wrj8cxQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/brmPxmo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/72cqsqJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WllRlqF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZhzdRNT.jpg
http://saijaku.jp/

Update:
Preview #2 (with animated footage) is out:
LYTSjZL0rl4

[Kuroageha]

Kasuga Ayumy is very special on his designs, faces and hips.

The anime designs don't give the original artist style vibe when the characters move, specially the faces but isn't bad either.


I see CG fights, which studio is doing the CG animation?

[AceTrigger]

Kasuga Ayumy is very special on his designs, faces and hips.

The anime designs don't give the original artist style vibe when the characters move, specially the faces but isn't bad either.


I see CG fights, which studio is doing the CG animation?

I think it's Orange. Not 100% sure tho.

[dark998]

Yep, Orange is handling the 3DCG in this one too. In fact they are collaborating in around 3-4 shows next season. And talking about collaboration the 2D visuals by Lerche look neat as well, hype level moderately rising.

[~Yami~]

I hope the battle CG would be as good as Rakudai or Asteriks though... must be awesome to watch

[The One Above God]

I'm still bothered by "Philuffy"...

[Sacredus]

I'm still calling her fluffy-chan xP

Trailer and designs look good so... HYPE.

[Stark700]

Sentai licensed it.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-28/sentai-filmworks-licenses-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-anime/.97014

[Sacredus]

Sentai licensed it.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-28/sentai-filmworks-licenses-undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-anime/.97014
God, please, don't let them give this to hulu.

[AceTrigger]

God, please, don't let them give this to hulu.

Let's hope so cuz..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXI9x1hUsAIYRCz.jpg

[Nvis]

Itto shura's a website, wtf?

I'm here for Celistia.

[EroKing]

http://i.imgur.com/zSz341vl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zSz341v)

[Hakuro]

http://i.imgur.com/zSz341vl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zSz341v)

Blue the best.

[FlareKnight]

Blue the best.
Maybe, but for the picture I've got to give it to the blonde :).

[Wandering Soul]

Blue the best.
This one speaks the truth.

[tsunade666]

The princess is also nice but the childhood friend has big assets but I got to agree. The teasing blue is the best.

[Hakai]

http://i.imgur.com/zSz341vl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zSz341v)

Flat is the best

[Sacredus]

People here have such good taste. It's funny that they use Lisha to promote series when Krulcifrer just stole whole show (in LN). Or they do this just because first Vol. is focused on her?

Anyway, let's hope that Sentai will give this to CR.

[EroKing]

http://i.imgur.com/xp0senXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xp0senX)

[FlareKnight]

http://i.imgur.com/xp0senXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xp0senX)
Get a good feel for that trio based on facial expressions alone :heh:.

Definitely good pose and expression for Lisha :).

[Hakai]

Phi-chan's left leg :rolleyes:

Lisha looks absolutely adorable though

[The One Above God]

Dayum, all of them have ZR...

[bakato]

Op out. Sounds decent.

[Medivh]

Counting down to the anime

http://i.imgur.com/Cxe0ImE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fg46Bpz.jpg

source:https://twitter.com/fumi_tadaura

[Medivh]

8 more days!!!
http://i.imgur.com/vJHrbQp.png

[LKK]

Thread locked for review.

Edit: I removed nearly 20 posts because they crossed the line of civil discussion and descended into attacks and acrimony. So let me remind everyone of the ground rules.

You like the series. Good. You can say so. You can say why you're looking forward to the show. But you can't attack those who don't.They are allowed to hate the show.

You hate the series. Good. You can say so. You can say why you won't be watching the show. But you can't attack those who do. They are allowed to like the show.

Notice the pattern? You can't attack the others. No snide insinuations either. They count as attacks as well. Be civil and play nice. Otherwise this thread will be closed again and for a longer time period.

Thread open.

[RXKing]

People here have such good taste. It's funny that they use Lisha to promote series when Krulcifrer just stole whole show (in LN). Or they do this just because first Vol. is focused on her?

Anyway, let's hope that Sentai will give this to CR.

Relax, the best girl will have it screen and poster later

[Medivh]

But best girl won't appear in this season.

[Vaans]

But best girl won't appear in this season.

And whose that best girl you're talking about?

[Riki]

But best girl won't appear in this season.


Kirihime Yoruka? She's not in the PVs' . Cameo at the end perhaps?

[Medivh]

Yea, Yoruka. Hopefully they don't rush the adaptation for her to appear.

[FlareKnight]

Yea, Yoruka. Hopefully they don't rush the adaptation for her to appear.Agreed, just pace it properly. There's just no point if you get to a really great character if the whole show is a rushed mess in the process. At that point, the character won't save it.

[Arya]

mmm, don't know what to expect from this show. Considering the comments blue seems to be the best (and just by the looking I personally agree, even if it doesn't really matter), but since she is not the main heroine I'm a bit vary on what to expect.
I mean, characters make 94% of a show for me, so having Krulcifrer so good could be fine, but also frustrating. :heh:


Generally speaking instead may I expect some balance between the MC and the girl/s, spotlight wise? I don't like when the MC does everything and the girls are just there, or vice-versa. The MC is useless and the girls have to do all the work :rolleyes:

[Hakai]

mmm, don't know what to expect from this show. Considering the comments blue seems to be the best (and just by the looking I personally agree, even if it doesn't really matter), but since she is not the main heroine I'm a bit vary on what to expect.
I mean, characters make 94% of a show for me, so having Krulcifrer so good could be fine, but also frustrating. :heh:
All four of them are main heroines, blonde one(smaller breasts) will just get focus for the first 3/4 episodes

Generally speaking instead may I expect some balance between the MC and the girl/s, spotlight wise? I don't like when the MC does everything and the girls are just there, or vice-versa. The MC is useless and the girls have to do all the work :rolleyes:
The MC and girls are all strong
If any of them ever seem 'useless' and in need of 'rescue' it's because of handicaps/bad situations

[Arya]

All four of them are main heroines, blonde one(smaller breasts) will just get focus for the first 3/4 episodes

Usually in harem shows there is a clear distinction between the main heroine and the rest of the cast (see how you could instantly spot the blond loli as such). It may not be apparent all the time depending on the execution, but usually that's how it works in harem series. That's what I mean when I say main heroine.
In any case I will give it a try as usual.


The MC and girls are all strong
If any of them ever seem 'useless' and in need of 'rescue' it's because of handicaps/bad situations
A bit vague, but thanks! :) (oh, not asking for more detailed info, it's just that it's more a matter of general feeling/portraying than single events).

[Hakai]

Usually in harem shows there is a clear distinction between the main heroine and the rest of the cast (see how you could instantly spot the blond loli as such). It may not be apparent all the time depending on the execution, but usually that's how it works in harem series. That's what I mean when I say main heroine.
In any case I will give it a try as usual.
Honestly in 2 translated Volumes so far, Krulcifer didn't feel any less important than Lisha
But maybe that's just me


A bit vague, but thanks! :) (oh, not asking for more detailed info, it's just that it's more a matter of general feeling/portraying than single events).
I'd have liked to give you more details but that'd be posting spoilers

Battle wise expect the MC to get more 'spotlight'(isn't that kinda expected?) But the heroines get necessary enough fights as well

[Arya]

Honestly in 2 translated Volumes so far, Krulcifer didn't feel any less important than Lisha
But maybe that's just me

Well, you are reading the LN that is a whole different thing, I was talking about anime adaptations, all depends on how they decide to adapt it. In any case probably it's more me than you. I usually don't watch harems if I don't like the main heroine.


I'd have liked to give you more details but that'd be posting spoilers

Battle wise expect the MC to get more 'spotlight'(isn't that kinda expected?) But the heroines get necessary enough fights as wellAh, that's good. What I mean is that's enough telling me you impression in that regard as you did.

[Hakai]

Let's just say as long as they don't screw up/stay faithful to the Novels we should expect equal amount of Lisha and Krulcifer in all screen time, developments and importance(the same probably goes for other two as well depending on how many volumes they cover)

[Medivh]

Airi with her forever angry face.
http://i.imgur.com/lKWSqKg.png
Well, from the light novel, there is a feeling of 3 main girls. All the girls will have some screen time fighting.

[Kuroageha]

Which would be a proper point to stop the anime without cutting material or having to add an original end?

[Medivh]

Either volume 3 or 4. 3 for better pacing. 4 for better ending.

[RXKing]

We'll see about that when anime comes out

[RegulusNemea]

Will wait till Drag-Ride scale models

[Hakuro]

If the studio decides to adapt 4 volumes in 12 episodes then that's gonna be a mess, or rushed or with some cuts. 3 volumes is the best option but I don't have high expectations from this adaptation, at least for now.

7 days left?

[Medivh]

No.6 is a surprise
http://i.imgur.com/Ov8IMFq.png

[bakato]

Still no PV on action?

[Hakai]

Not really surprising for me
With five left I'm expecting four of our heroines and either Yoruka or Luno :heh:

[RXKing]

@medivh. Same here, i thought its yoruka but what we got is the headmaster instead....

@regulusnemea that's a good signature u got there

[kusabireika]

uhm I wonder if the protagonist can crossdress "praying really hard". ^^? :blush:
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk308/0kusabireika0/Emoticons/EcoIn.cOM.vN-Emo-Cat-Princess-6_zpsoj6okazm.gif

must wait patiently. ^^ :nod:
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk308/0kusabireika0/Emoticons/EcoIn.cOM.vN-Emo-Cat-Princess-9_zpsbopbgfuw.gif

[Zakoo]

5 : Serize
4 : Firfie
3 : Krucifer
2: Risha
1: Lux - form may change-

[Medivh]

Just use the official spelling. Might confuse newcomers.

No.5 is here!!
http://i.imgur.com/QXR2754.png

Update of the website. Contain some new pictures of episode 1.
http://saijaku.jp/story

[Sacredus]

And no.4.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYIwDOfUAAATThk.png

Also, it's look like AnimeLab and The Anime Network got simulcast on this so... Funi or Hulu? God, please, no.

[Medivh]

A look at lux and his wyvern
http://i.imgur.com/RSp2EJv.jpg

Short MV version of ED
jIJ9ejpBcMk

As long as they don't use yellow subs like rakudai, im fine with it.

[RegulusNemea]

Lux's voice makes me cringe

What have you done Lerche ;_;
http://www.onsen.ag/index.html?pid=saijaku

[Stark700]

Hulu....got it instead. *exclusive*

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-08/undefeated-bahamut-chronicle-to-stream-on-hulu/.97376

[Sacredus]

Another good series will be butchered.

[moodie]

is this what happened to rakudai and why we had yellow subs

[Sacredus]

Yep. And don't forget about cancer level translation like "It's just a matter of soon or later".

[RegulusNemea]

It would be painful to watch now

[Cloudedmind]

Yeah, I canceled my Hulu paid subscription two weeks after getting it because it ended up just being a waste.

[Hakuro]

Lux voice is terrible, but at least with Hulu subs we can laugh at this.

[Hakai]

Are they supposed to be that bad? :heh:

I always watch my stuff from torrent or streaming sites so never really noticed which ones came from Hulu

[RegulusNemea]

Lux sounds like a crybaby-type
I regret listening to the webradio :T_T:

[Wandering Soul]

Are they supposed to be that bad? :heh:

I always watch my stuff from torrent or streaming sites so never really noticed which ones came from Hulu
I don't know much about Hulu subs but apparently they have yellow subs and often cringe worthy translations.

[Sacredus]

Are they supposed to be that bad? :heh:

I always watch my stuff from torrent or streaming sites so never really noticed which ones came from Hulu
Just look what they did with Rakudai (http://www.crymore.net/2015/10/04/officialsubs-review-sentai-filmworks-rakudai-kishi-no-cavalry-episode-01/).

[Hakai]

Well, f**k :heh:

[moodie]

im kinda scared that CR will stop picking up heavy hitting harem light novel adaptions as things go on

well i guess ill have to wait a bit extra for better subs oh well

[Kuroageha]

Death is the only way out.

[Medivh]

About lux voice, I don't find it bad. I guess I have a higher tolerance than others.

I just hope they at least don't use yellow subs.

Here's something to cheer people up.
http://i.imgur.com/QlQfEVS.png

[KnightShade]

About lux voice, I don't find it bad. I guess I have a higher tolerance than others.

I just hope they at least don't use yellow subs.

Here's something to cheer people up.
http://i.imgur.com/QlQfEVS.png

the only series where i can say flat is justice.
#and justice for all...

[Sacredus]

About lux voice, I don't find it bad. I guess I have a higher tolerance than others.

I just hope they at least don't use yellow subs.

Here's something to cheer people up.
http://i.imgur.com/QlQfEVS.png

Not helped... And why best girl is third and Lisha second?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYTC6c4VAAAR5be.png

[bakato]

Hmmm. So who's gonna be number 1?

[Hakai]

Hmmm. So who's gonna be number 1?

Either Lux or Luno

[RXKing]

Either Lux or Luno

its lux obviously

[RXKing]

Not helped... And why best girl is third and Lisha second?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYTC6c4VAAAR5be.png

can u post it too in the social group?

[Medivh]

Why is she holding a chilli?

[Hakai]

its lux obviously

Well yeah, either way :heh:
You do know who I mean by Luno right?

[bakato]

Why is she holding a chilli?

Maybe she's trying to say she's hot?

[RegulusNemea]

It's here.
Now we wait for tonight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYYnnUGUwAAz7uh.png:large

[Hakuro]

Can't wait for the rage of the haters after episode 1, at least after Blue's intro everything is going to be ok.

[~Yami~]

as manga-only reader, I don't get why people over-hyped toward Kurulucifer... but well let's see :heh:

well, for me, I think Bahamut put a quite good start... but people probably rage at the yellowish-subs.. exactly like what happened at Rakudai before

"less than 24 hours" hype!!!!

[moodie]

because ur a manga reader and not a light novel read, the real source material

[Hakuro]

Krulcifer literally carry the LN alone because Lux is annoying af and the rest of the girls aren't good either.

[bakato]

It's here.
Now we wait for tonight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYYnnUGUwAAz7uh.png:large

Oh...It's just Lux.

[Zakoo]

Krulcifer literally carry the LN alone because Lux is annoying af and the rest of the girls aren't good either.

Honestly, Lisha is a real good heroin, she isn't crashed by hardship, do her best and never give up -nearly-, love challenges, mad scientist, loli with boob, twintail, red eyes aaaaand tsundere.

It just happen Krucifer is better.

Anyway, I can't enjoy the show as I read until V7 but I can say to everybody that they should at least watch until episode 4 to have a final judgement, aside of course if you totally hate anime with ecchi tag and in this case, it can't be helped, this anime is simply not for you.

[Medivh]

Krulcifer literally carry the LN alone because Lux is annoying af and the rest of the girls aren't good either.

Why do you find lux annoying?

[bakato]

Why do you find lux annoying?

Who wouldn't? He's emo.

[KnightShade]

Honestly, Lisha is a real good heroin, she isn't crashed by hardship, do her best and never give up -nearly-, love challenges, mad scientist, loli with boob, twintail, red eyes aaaaand tsundere.

It just happen Krucifer is better.

Anyway, I can't enjoy the show as I read until V7 but I can say to everybody that they should at least watch until episode 4 to have a final judgement, aside of course if you totally hate anime with ecchi tag and in this case, it can't be helped, this anime is simply not for you.

Wait till episode 4 guys...

Its last season all over again. I like saijaku and have enjoyed both lns but lets not fall into the same trap of hyping up viewers. That didnt work out well the last time.

[Zakoo]

Are you sure we have the same definition of Emo?

Wait till episode 4 guys...

Its last season all over again. I like saijaku and have enjoyed both lns but lets not fall into the same trap of hyping up viewers. That didnt work out well the last time.

Not hypyng the show actually, I'm not even sure I will like it you know? I love reading book but I'm not so hard on anime, especially since I consider adaptation never give the whole glory of the original. But I also dislike when people judge a book only on the cover or an anime after one episode, that's why I'm putting a message hoping people will read it and won't go berserk ASAP. ( Though maybe episode 1 may be good?)

[KnightShade]

Are you sure we have the same definition of Emo?



Not hypyng the show actually, I'm not even sure I will like it you know? I love reading book but I'm not so hard on anime, especially since I consider adaptation never give the whole glory of the original. But I also dislike when people judge a book only on the cover or an anime after one episode, that's why I'm putting a message hoping people will read it and won't go berserk ASAP. ( Though maybe episode 1 may be good?)

I got you.

In this day and age people tend to expect to be wowed up front. But that makes the slow burns all the more effective imo

[RXKing]

Well yeah, either way :heh:
You do know who I mean by Luno right?

Either i dont know or i forget. Can u pm me for the explanation :eyespin:

[Hakai]

The similarities it appears to have to IS might end up turning off some people

And It's not like we don't have a large group of people who'll basically just watch the first episode to come and say how awful and generic it was and they are dropping it or giving it one more episode

I don't expect the anime to be as well received as the Ln because of the reasons above and adaptions are never as good as the original and it may end up becoming much worse(hopefully this one doesn't )

[BladeMancer]

Krulcifer literally carry the LN alone because Lux is annoying af and the rest of the girls aren't good either.
Lux is annoying? I'd like to hear the reason why considering when I read Bahamut he was a pretty level headed MC.
The other girls are good, it's just that flat is justice pretty much. Also have you heard of Yoruka? She (imo) surpasses Kurulucifer for me.

[RXKing]

Honestly, Lisha is a real good heroin, she isn't crashed by hardship, do her best and never give up -nearly-, love challenges, mad scientist, loli with boob, twintail, red eyes aaaaand tsundere.

It just happen Krucifer is better.

Anyway, I can't enjoy the show as I read until V7 but I can say to everybody that they should at least watch until episode 4 to have a final judgement, aside of course if you totally hate anime with ecchi tag and in this case, it can't be helped, this anime is simply not for you.

How about celestia?

[Medivh]

DVD & BD sales CM
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[RegulusNemea]

Honestly, Lux got better vol.5 onwards :heh:

[RDNexus]

Honestly, Lux got better vol.5 onwards :heh:
Precisely way ahead from where the adaption will surely stop... As usual.
That "it gets better from Volxx onwards" ends up being a huge turn-off to many, no matter which story it is.

[Hakai]

Lux's character already seems pretty developed from very early on the story

If the only way you're gonna judge his character is by how smooth he is with the girls then you are probably looking for another harem to read/watch without caring about the other aspects of the story

He's a shy guy with a somewhat awkward personality and there is nothing wrong with that

[Stark700]

Episode 1:

Hmm, bath scene in the first 4 or so minutes. OP song is catchy, Lux often praising the girls, action reminds me of IS somewhat, and well...yeah, pretty generic stuff. I expect the censored parts to be uncensored in BDs.

[Hakuro]

Lux's character already seems pretty developed from very early on the story

If the only way you're gonna judge his character is by how smooth he is with the girls then you are probably looking for another harem to read/watch without caring about the other aspects of the story

He's a shy guy with a somewhat awkward personality and there is nothing wrong with that

Saying there is nothing wrong with Lux is like saying there is nothing wrong with Ichika. Lux isn't shy or ankward, he's just dense and if we need to describe him - even if can be considered as buzzword -, he's just another beta and boring main character who's afraid of girls and has random moments when he can be decent.

If anyone is looking for a good MC, this is not the anime for you and just wait for Hundred in that case.

[BladeMancer]

Saying there is nothing wrong with Lux is like saying there is nothing wrong with Ichika. Lux isn't shy or ankward, he's just dense and if we need to describe him - even if can be considered as buzzword -, he's just another beta and boring main character who's afraid of girls and has random moments when he can be decent.

If anyone is looking for a good MC, this is not the anime for you and just wait for Hundred in that case.
At least it isn't annoying, and Lux makes up for it being a monster at combat. Also he's justified at being afraid of girls, I mean how would you deal with that famous volume 3 scene? Most of them are damn competitive for his affection

[Hakai]

Saying there is nothing wrong with Lux is like saying there is nothing wrong with Ichika. Please
Lux isn't shy or ankward, he's just dense and if we need to describe him - even if can be considered as buzzword -, he's just another beta and boring main character who's afraid of girls and has random moments when he can be decent.
He is shy and awkward.
If him not being used to women is enough to for you to call him a shitty Mc then this is not the story for you

He's a battle genius and has a really interesting set of abilities, that is crucial for a 'Action' series Mc

His character also has good background and he still has some big plans/motivations for the future

I'm by no means saying that he is perfect, not everyone has to like him but now days people only judge Mcs based on their attitude around women which is just sad, there's a lot more to a character other than that

[imbuement]

Please

He is shy and awkward.
If him not being used to women is enough to for you to call him a shitty Mc then this is not the story for you

He's a battle genius and has a really interesting set of abilities, that is crucial for a 'Action' series Mc

His character also has good background and he still has some big plans/motivations for the future

I'm by no means saying that he is perfect, not everyone has to like him but now days people only judge Mcs based on their attitude around women which is just sad, there's a lot more to a character other than that

Approved +1.

PS: If someone just want a MC that "verygood" with girls and women, then rewatch SchoolDays, or rather Ra*ce OVA series"... Or you guys only found your pleasure with Gigolo?

:)

[Hakuro]

Please

He is shy and awkward.
If him not being used to women is enough to for you to call him a shitty Mc then this is not the story for you

Again, shy and ankward is just an excuse, he's dense but at least not at Ichika levels. Almost all harem MC's are like this, and that's killing the harem genre.

He's a battle genius and has a really interesting set of abilities, that is crucial for a 'Action' series Mc

Obligatory abilities and good fighting skills, same as before.

His character also has good background and he still has some big plans/motivations for the future

Same as any other harem MC, is there anything special about Lux? nothing at all.

I'm by no means saying that he is perfect, not everyone has to like him but now days people only judge Mcs based on their attitude around women which is just sad, there's a lot more to a character other than that

You're not into good stories after all, that's why you don't know who's a good main character. Viewers and LN readers are tired of the same type of MC's over and over - there you have as example different mc's like the ones from Shinmai Maou (debatable), Hagure, Swords and Wizards, Hundred, Mandan and others -, so the only option to mitigate how boring these cliché elements are is making them less stupid and dense so they can have a really good relationship with the harem.

Where Bahamut stands out over the inmense group of harem stories are the girls, Lux isn't one of the strong points of the LN and the adaptation is showing that since episode 1.

[Riki]

woah woah Yoruka was in the opening in the anime so, it's going to be a reach to Vol 4-5? Lol, another rushed anime if it's like that.

[Medivh]

Nice to see best girl in the OP.

[BladeMancer]

Again, shy and ankward is just an excuse, he's dense but at least not at Ichika levels. Almost all harem MC's are like this, and that's killing the harem genre.



Obligatory abilities and good fighting skills, same as before.



Same as any other harem MC, is there anything special about Lux? nothing at all.



You're not into good stories after all, that's why you don't know who's a good main character. Viewers and LN readers are tired of the same type of MC's over and over - there you have as example different mc's like the ones from Shinmai Maou (debatable), Hagure, Swords and Wizards, Hundred, Mandan and others -, so the only option to mitigate how boring these cliché elements are is making them less stupid and dense so they can have a really good relationship with the harem.

Where Bahamut stands out over the inmense group of harem stories are the girls, Lux isn't one of the strong points of the LN and the adaptation is showing that since episode 1.
Now I know this discussion will be removed by mods, but I will still make one more comment before I leave.
Lux has a really good relationship with his harem. It might not show in episode 1 but these types of series won't just have an immediate harem and he will just be a suave mofo (excuse the language). He needs to build and connect, and he is still in the process of connecting. This is something entirely new for him, considering he had been doing work for other people hence his nickname and then suddenly he's regaining a little status back and a harem to boot. Who wouldn't be a little unsettled with the change of circumstances Lux had? I certainly wouldn't

[Hakuro]

woah woah Yoruka was in the opening in the anime so, it's going to be a reach to Vol 4-5? Lol, another rushed anime if it's like that.

Antimagic all over again?

@Blademancer, let's leave the discussion about Lux since I agree about how mods will react. Let's focus on the girls.

[Medivh]

Showing yoruka does not mean that volume 4-5 will be adapted. Why are you guys so worked up? Personally, I think it would be better if it adapted to volume 4 for the better ending.