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Top Sergeant

2016-06-25, 19:45

Liked the saluting and standing at attention as Harukaze went down.

Next year they will drain the harbor and we'll have Hai-Furi 2: Space Destroyer Harukaze!

rladls2121

2016-06-25, 21:02

So the Harekaze is sunk.
Did any characters died in this series?
If not, then it is a miracle.

tsunade666

2016-06-25, 21:02

nice ending. I actually liked the series that has serious problem of ups and down. It won't be memorable but it sure give an impression. I actually liked the salute at the end when the ship start sinking (even though I start thinking of why not stop it)

Nice gun fights and clever use of tactics but one needs to just stop thinking or just plain old enjoy it. I enjoyed it more than the harem crap that i watched this season. I don't need to cringe every now and then though I did question the brains of the maker but that is just me being mean.

Plus one thing. why people keep on insisting in space rodents? why not mutant rodents? it made more sense to me.

arkhangelsk

2016-06-25, 21:09

The first half of Ep12 was relatively good, the last half was relatively meh. I mean, the entire flow was predictable (you knew Graf Spee was going to show up). The biggest surprise was that our principal stayed in her command chair rather than driving a ship (something the show itself lampshaded). And yes, that whole thing about Harekaze suddenly shifting from damaged but afloat to sinking is really cheesy and the whole reunion scene was indeed "Yeah, whatever" because Moka-chan wasn't built up.

And really, girls (pointing at the cooking staff), stopping your ship from sinking is your job.

Overall, Haifuri wasn't a really great anime. But at least to me, it didn't disappoint because it coughs up its limitations at a pretty early stage. I saw the ship leaving the harbor, and I know that it will not be "relatively realistic" - it lost most of its points in that arena then but at least it can't disappoint me. By episode 3 or so, it is clear it will be heavily character oriented. So I wasn't really disappointed at the hamsters, or the lack of a complex plot or deep thinking to keep the world fully consistent.

For the most part and kinks aside, it did the one thing it did suggest it'll emphasize well, the characters. Making 30 (actually 27 or so because the cooking staff are a "hub-type") unique characters is quite an accomplishment.

Thus I can treat its flaws with :heh: instead of :frustrated: and that makes it a passable anime.

serenade_beta

2016-06-25, 21:13

4/10

The anime was doomed from the start because of the setting. The 1st episode definitely caught the viewers' attention with the mysterious events that occurred, but it turns out the big revelation is that...
It's a berserker virus that evil, eveeeeil scientists created, that are in rodents, that the rodents happened to only appear on ships, that also can jam electronic devices.
.......Sure.
Oh, and such an incredible virus had a cure discovered by our beloved genius scientist in a few episodes.
So yeah, that was a disappointment. I'd say the only thing that could have saved that was if they announced this anime was a prequel to 28 Days Later.

Next, the characters are too invincible. Assuming that everything exploding and being shot was real, I'm surprised at the lack of, forget death, injury. Yeah, I was riding on a high-speed water jet and collided with an object that sent me flying.
But no problem.
Oh, but if I turn into a zombie, I lose this invincibility and get knocked out by some super swordsman girl.

And then the story wasn't particularly good either.
Captain is out there charging like an idiot (though considering everyone's invincibility, it makes sense). And I can't say she really fixed that habit of hers.
Right before the climax, you have some stupid festival... which apparently might be a real tradition, which most viewers both don't care about and find sudden considering the situation you are trying to save your best friend from zombies and whatever.
The Bloomer Maids that these kids are trying to become....... didn't exactly show their moves. They lost to students who weren't even in the right of mind. Yeah, adults in anime have to be stupid in order for the kids to play a role, but still, the goal of these students showed nothing to qualify for such admiration. It's like Captain Falcon knee-ed them and just keeps on taunting, "Show me your moves""Show me your moves""Show me your moves""Show me your moves"
And I assume the last scene is supposed to be emotional? Except no one could tell it was in a near-sinking state until it suddenly decided to sink, and the fact it sunk in the harbor should make it fairly easy to salvage.
Oh, and nothing to show they actually got rid of the rodents. Boy, 2nd season will be the virus spreading across the lands, huh.

That said, I didn't give it a 1/10 because despite having more holes than swiss cheese, it wasn't a hugely bad anime. It was watchable, even if it was worth a facepalm or two. And I generally had a good laugh (at it).
All in all, Captain's facial expression in the last episode summarizes the anime well
http://i66.tinypic.com/2hfm8mt.jpg

Master_Yoma

2016-06-25, 21:19

Harekaze serve her crew well But got to say Akeno came up with one crazy plan

8/10 gooding to miss Mii-chan

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2016-06-25, 21:20

A good, but underwhelming finale.

The Mike/Moka reunion scene was very good (which it needed to be), but I think the episode should have ended with just those two chatting, alongside the ocean, against a brilliant sunset hanging over the horizon. Replace the long, drawn-out, and sudden Harekaze sinking with a minute or two of a final sweet Mike/Moka scene, and I think it would have nicely capped off an excellent feel-good finale.

As is, I like the episode overall, but I come away with two major issues:

1. Moka was badly shortchanged overall, and this final episode didn't really offer enough to make up for it. A terrible under-use of a character with good potential.

2. The Harekaze sinking struck me as a painfully transparent and desperate attempt to add "Oomph" to the finale, where I could just hear the show's makers going "See? See? We did live up to that Episode 1 twist! This show is very bold and serious military drama after all!"

No, sorry, it's too late Hai-Furi. It would have honestly been better if you just took your lay-up to a simple straightforward total happy ending and played that up as best you could. Besides, the Harekaze sinking is such an "Um... Ok? Whatever? I guess the Japanese government is out of a helluva lot of money" thing to happen at this point. Don't get me wrong, in a less light show where characters endured worst than some close calls, maybe this would have worked. But here? Nah, not really.

Still, Hai-Furi is a decent show overall. It's hard for me to not think of how much better it could have been, but it's a solid 7/10.

I feel the lack of character development was apparent for a majority of the cast outside of just Akeno and Mashiro mostly. Heck, I don't even remember the names of most of the characters outside of those two, Coco, Rin (one of the few crew members to actually speak up about Akeno's stupid actions before), Macchi (mainly because her name was fangirled so much), Kaede (because she made herself suddenly stick out with her kicking ass), Maron (all the screaming about the engine), Minami (the only actual loli and doctor on the whole ship), and Mina. I even forgot Moka and her crew existed at times unless Akeno brought them up and kept thinking the Musashi like the Neuroi-possessed Yamato in Strike Witches 2.

It definitely feels like they tried to do a Girls und Panzer type of thing with the girls but the problem for me is that, outside of simply working different areas of the ship, most of the girls outside of the bridge crew didn't feel that different from one another unless they were purposely made to be like Maron.

Girls und Panzer at least "categorized" a type for each tank crew (History, volleyball, Disciplinary, pseudo-NEETs, etc.) and then made sure each of the girls within each category was a bit unique from each other despite having similar interests by being in that category. It made it feel a lot easier to remember each of the girls' names for me.

I also felt the same way with the Harekaze sinking. It wasn't bad, but it didn't feel necessary either. And it also felt convenient since they reported it taking on water in the middle of battle. They were even preparing to abandon ship before reinforcements showed up, prompting them to continue fighting, do the boarding, and returning WHILE it was still taking on water. You'd think the Harekaze would have sunk before it ever made it back to port, which actually probably would have made its sinking better IMO.

So the Harekaze is sunk.
Did any characters died in this series?
If not, then it is a miracle.

Nope, no one died.

Not a single person even shed any blood that I recall. The worst we had was unconsciousness.

Tempester

2016-06-25, 21:28

Imagination is a wonderful thing. (https://a.pomf.cat/icvkpx.webm)

Infinite Zenith

2016-06-25, 21:30

Imagination is a wonderful thing. (https://a.pomf.cat/icvkpx.webm)

Oh no you didn't :heehee:

Yamada II

2016-06-26, 02:58

Episode 12

So Misaki gets permission from the principal to carry out her reckless plan of stalling the Musashi to let reinforcements arrive to take over. Mei had quite a lot of fun there, launching all torpedoes at once. They buy time, but the result is the Harekaze taking one hell of a beating with the engine room flooding, fires erupting in different places along with extensive damage to their weapon firing parts. They survive till reinforcements arrive which include the Germans' Spee. Mii-chan is here to help. And this leads to the second part of their extremely reckless plan – boarding the Musashi.

That rash driving though. They banged the Harekaze straight into the Musashi to stop it. They were like, "neko this ship! It's going down anyway, might as well blow it up". The reunion was quite good. And in the end, they reach solid land. But after that beating the Harekaze took due to the recklessness, the ship which supported Misaki and her crew all this time sinks. It didn't feel off at all. Kinda like giving the show a proper ending. The dangerous journey at sea is now over, something like that.

Overall this has been a good show. They went full serious where needed and kept the moe moe stuff out of the way when serious. It had the cute girls doing stuff aspect but those didn't feel bad at all. It took the ships stuff quite seriously which was good. There was an actual sense of danger here as things weren't all fun and games. They really were in danger out at sea and episode 11 perfectly showed that with Misaki being unable to decide whether to evacuate or go in. My biggest complaint, apart from the drops in the artwork at times, is the development that mutant rodents are causing the everyone to go wild. That honestly felt stupid. It would have been better if it was something like someone is trying to give the Bloomers a bad name and have them wreak havoc here and there. In fact, anything would have been better than mutant rats. That being said, the ship battles were always exciting to watch. The girls putting Misaki's plans to action to stop ships was cool. It was a pretty good show to watch. It it weren't for that stupid development it would have been better.

Ernietheracefan

2016-06-26, 07:19

Imagination is a wonderful thing. (https://a.pomf.cat/icvkpx.webm)
Damn you, admiral..:heh:

A good song for Harekaze..

Sheba

2016-06-26, 08:53

So the Harekaze is sunk.
Did any characters died in this series?
If not, then it is a miracle.

And the virus was a fucking joke. Even flu have killed people.

MeoTwister5

2016-06-26, 09:03

I was on the edge of my seat the entire final naval battle. OTOH I actually felt a wee bit teary eyed as everyone stood at attention while Mike gave the sinking Harekaze a final salute, even if it is rather outlandish to let it sink in harbor and right beside the pier of all places.

All in all probably the biggest surprise this season. It actually surpassed any and all expectations I had at the start and I'd gladly watch a second outing.

Scarletknive

2016-06-26, 10:00

And the virus was a fucking joke. Even flu have killed people.

I thought the virus only caused the infected to go insane? (From what I see...) :confused:

Benigmatica

2016-06-27, 04:36

Episode 12:
Well, the Harekaze hold enough to not only rescue the Musashi crew, but also ferry Capt. Akeno Misaki and her crew-mates back home before it sank to the sea. We'll surely miss that destroyer!

It was a nice ending for Haifuri, but it seems that Production IMS won't tell us what happened to Abyss which that company is responsible for the hate virus.

chaos_animagic

2016-06-27, 15:22

I thought the virus only caused the infected to go insane? (From what I see...) :confused:

yea, the virus only made ppls go crazy, not actually kill anyone that's infected...

if anything, people that's infected won't try to kill each other (of the same Hive) as they act and work together as one mind.

As for the Sinking ship... I salute to the poor Plushies that's going down with the ship, I'll miss you Shark-san.

lfhoule

2016-06-28, 10:37

First off, one has to wonder if Hai-Furi's Akashi has Arpeggio's (manga) Akashi's mental model locked up in one of her holds building stuff to stick on Harekaze, because how else can one explain why she would have, laying around, an Imperial Army Type 4 rocket mortar to slap on the stern of Harekaze. Yeah, it was a real weapon developed towards the end of the the war.:eyespin:
Anyway, an exciting final episode for a fun little series that was enjoyable to watch, despite some issues with overall plot. 8/10, and I hope that they do some sort of sequel for it.

Kakurin

2016-06-28, 13:16

The final episode was fun. As was the case with practically every episode after the rat-reveal, just shut off the logic part of your brain and have fun with it. Overall evaluation of the series depends on how well you could adjust the expectations following said rat-reveal. I'd say it was solid and fun, nothing too special, nothing too bad.

I particularly liked the animation of the combat scenes though, when I think back of the heavy use of 3D CG in Kancolle, urgh...

As for the sinking of the Harekaze. Thought it was a nice closing scene. Wasn't really bothered by it since if they choose so they can just refloat Harekaze in the future. One of the advantages of sinking at harbour. :heh:

Ernietheracefan

2016-06-28, 15:49

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmB_xPgUkAADjOB.jpg

Triple_R

2016-06-28, 18:18

I feel the lack of character development was apparent for a majority of the cast outside of just Akeno and Mashiro mostly. Heck, I don't even remember the names of most of the characters outside of those two, Coco, Rin (one of the few crew members to actually speak up about Akeno's stupid actions before), Macchi (mainly because her name was fangirled so much), Kaede (because she made herself suddenly stick out with her kicking ass), Maron (all the screaming about the engine), Minami (the only actual loli and doctor on the whole ship), and Mina. I even forgot Moka and her crew existed at times unless Akeno brought them up and kept thinking the Musashi like the Neuroi-possessed Yamato in Strike Witches 2.

Well, you did list off 9 Harekaze crew members here. That's not bad!

If you compare to the various Star Trek tv show crews, you're rarely given more than 9 regular crew members to truly care about.

Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Sulu, Chekov, Uhura - Off the top of my head, those are the only 7 crew members I remember that well from the original series.

Picard, Riker, Data, Geordi, Crusher, Troi, Worf, Wesley, Tasha Yar, Guinan - Off the top of my head, those are the 10 TNG crew members I remember well, and 2/3 of them were rarely around.

One thing I liked about Hai-Furi is that the bridge crew and the Chief Engineer and the Doctor did seem like the most important characters, very similar to what you see in Star Trek.

If anything, Hai-Furi might have tried too hard to flesh out the entire crew of the Harekaze - Some of that time might have been better spent building up Moka and giving her more screen-time.

I also felt the same way with the Harekaze sinking. It wasn't bad, but it didn't feel necessary either. And it also felt convenient since they reported it taking on water in the middle of battle. They were even preparing to abandon ship before reinforcements showed up, prompting them to continue fighting, do the boarding, and returning WHILE it was still taking on water. You'd think the Harekaze would have sunk before it ever made it back to port, which actually probably would have made its sinking better IMO.

Agreed. If they had to sink the Harekaze, I think I would have preferred it if it had sunk shortly after crashing into the Musashi.

tsunade666

2016-06-30, 09:20

I liked the series. it's one of the good ones for spring season but I would have prefered if the whole mutant rodent didn't' happen. The unnecessary drama isn't forced into the viewers and they should have continued with the training exercise in the beginning. I would probably enjoy it more. I still liked the series but they are trying to hard for me to appreciate it. I liked the idea of adding some unexpected plot twist but it didn't mesh well with the story.

mangatron

2016-06-30, 10:18

https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yande-re-360067-high_school_fleet.jpg?w=350 (https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yande-re-360067-high_school_fleet.jpg)

High School Feet :p

Faux Mecha

2016-06-30, 11:05

i still find it amusing that characters who speak German suddenly go back to speaking Japanese, what is up with that? for dramatic effect!? :heh:

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2016-06-30, 13:58

https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yande-re-360067-high_school_fleet.jpg?w=350 (https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yande-re-360067-high_school_fleet.jpg)

High School Feet :p

No Kaede and/or Mina?! :frustrated:

Mashiro is good though. :D

Ernietheracefan

2016-06-30, 14:17

No Kaede and/or Mina?! :frustrated:
And no Captain Loli & Captain MacGuffin either.:heh:

Wandering Soul

2016-07-01, 12:25

https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yande-re-360067-high_school_fleet.jpg?w=350 (https://mangatron.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yande-re-360067-high_school_fleet.jpg)

High School Feet :p
I like Mike and Mashiro as much as the next guy, but some of the other girls should get a shot.

BWTraveller

2016-07-01, 16:35

I rather liked this series. But I feel like I somehow missed some important points. I'm re-watching now, but I can't for the life of me recall an explanation of why the Sarushima sank when it was hit with nothing but a dummy shell.

Panzercracker

2016-07-02, 10:43

Liddo-kun

2016-07-06, 07:41

Liddo-kun

2016-07-19, 11:03

Scarletknive

2016-07-19, 21:37

Now reached the final episode of this anime. Would have to say that it's a nicee way to wrap things up.

A question remains though...
Is there an organisem, like maybe a leader of the virus that's controlling those people? Hmm, hopefully there would be a season 2.

Score for me is 8.5/10

To answer that question... well, yeah need S2 to answer it. To be honest, there are too many questions left unanswered, more on the company Abyss.

But that might depend on sales (Which sad to say, it stopped at 8k+)

lfhoule

2016-07-20, 06:12

To answer that question... well, yeah need S2 to answer it. To be honest, there are too many questions left unanswered, more on the company Abyss.

But that might depend on sales (Which sad to say, it stopped at 8k+)

Also, our fearless crew needs a boat, seeing that the Harekaze is at the bottom of the harbor presently... so they either raise and refurbish Harekaze (with the next re-fit including a Soviet era 13.5" naval recoilless rifle mounted on the stern, just because Akashi has one in a crate somewhere), or give them another "paper" Kagero to man.

Ernietheracefan

2016-07-20, 12:56

Happy birthday, Mike..!! :D

SPARTAN 119

2016-07-20, 23:31

Started a few days ago and now on episode 8. This show is surprisingly enjoyable. :)

Although the plot armor is going really strong.. they get shot at since the start of episode 1 and still no casualties or any major damage to their ship. O_O

Finished it a few days ago, and I've got to say I enjoyed Haifuri a lot more than I thought I would, going beyond "cute girls on a ship" to actually have a plot that kept me excited for the next episode, even if there were a few plot holes here and there, and I agree, the plot armor is just incredible.

8/10

No Kaede and/or Mina?! :frustrated:

Mashiro is good though. :D

Or in other words, needs more brown sugar XD!

Edit: I think I've found you're Brown Sugar Fix! (http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3253536) Or at least the part that mangatron is interested in.

Liddo-kun

2016-07-21, 08:10

Finished it a few days ago, and I've got to say I enjoyed Haifuri a lot more than I thought I would, going beyond "cute girls on a ship" to actually have a plot that kept me excited for the next episode, even if there were a few plot holes here and there, and I agree, the plot armor is just incredible.

8/10

Agree on what you said about "going beyond cute girls on a ship". Well, they actually risk their lives here, and they battled to save people from being infected on the last ep.

Thinking again.. the mood in this show would probably feel a lot different if even one person in their ship got shot to pieces, so I'm glad that the plot armor is there.

To answer that question... well, yeah need S2 to answer it. To be honest, there are too many questions left unanswered, more on the company Abyss.

But that might depend on sales (Which sad to say, it stopped at 8k+)

Hmm,, maybe they would have enough funds for a few special episodes to at least explain where exactly the virus came from, and why those mice are carriers for it. :confused:

Ernietheracefan

2016-07-30, 07:26

https://67.media.tumblr.com/09ac20dbccda6ff250e227fe46f0a7ff/tumblr_ob4kxjOG8W1sbis1ho1_1280.jpg

l.kostas

2017-02-01, 23:06

High School Fleet Teases Projects in the Works (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-02-01/high-school-fleet-teases-projects-in-the-works/.111728)

l.kostas

2017-02-15, 07:12

High School Fleet Anime's 2-Part OVA Ships on May 24 (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-14/high-school-fleet-anime-2-part-ova-ships-on-may-24/.112226)
The official website for the High School Fleet (Haifuri) television anime announced on Tuesday that the series' original video anime (OVA) is slated for May 24 on both Blu-ray Disc and DVD. Online retailer Amazon is listing the release as 48 minutes long. The OVA itself will have two parts, and the release will include a main disc and bonus disc.
The first part of the OVA will air on BS11 on March 31 at 11:30 p.m.

Liddo-kun

2017-02-18, 06:23

Thanks for the info Lkostas. :)

l.kostas

2017-03-25, 08:50

High School Fleet OVA's Promo Outlines Story (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-25/high-school-fleet-ova-promo-outlines-story/.113915)

Infinite Zenith

2017-03-25, 09:07

It's less than a week away — I'm excited to check this out, but I can wait to learn the story.

Julio C

2017-03-25, 12:25

I hope it's an action packed OVA and with being a two part OVA, it should be long enough for that.

Infinite Zenith

2017-03-25, 12:36

More than likely, first part is going to build up to it, and second part will be action.

Julio C

2017-03-25, 12:52

So part 1 one next and part 2 the week after?

Infinite Zenith

2017-03-25, 13:33

Unless I'm mistaken, Part II is coming on May 24, a ways to go yet.

Julio C

2017-03-25, 14:18

That's whack. I guess I will wait instead.

nicky.

2017-03-28, 22:55

Wow, had no idea there was an OVA for this series coming out. I enjoyed it quite a bit; I'll be looking forward.

xizro345

2017-03-31, 11:34

And the first part aired today.

Most of the "drama" seems to come from the fact that (apparently) the class - and the Harekaze crew - is going to be disbanded. Coco's the main point of view (she first hears it from Mina), but the idea is also used to show what the others are doing after the ending and the exams.
The beginning also describes a bit what is happening after the whole mess with the rats. Oh, and the Harekaze is still in the port, though it seems they're going to dispose of it (or repair it? it's left purposely unclear at this point) soon.
The entire cast is shown, more or less, including Mina and her captain.

EroKing

2017-03-31, 13:11

https://c.l3n.co/i/srmZDo.md.jpeg (https://lensdump.com/i/srmZDo)

arkhangelsk

2017-04-01, 05:12

And the first part aired today.

That's the line they are trying to push, but they won't dare.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-04-02, 15:33

Infinite Zenith

2017-04-02, 16:38

We don't know if that's going to be the route yet, though. It was a good OVA, though; I enjoyed seeing everyone again. Some screenshots are available here (https://infinitemirai.wordpress.com/2017/04/02/kouko-nosa-in-a-pinch-high-school-fleet-hai-furi-ova-part-one-review-and-reflection/) for all interested parties.

nicky.

2017-04-02, 19:25

I liked seeing the crew again too.
It started.. ..off so cute & fun, then had to end like that. Whyy? :(
Bet the part two will resolve it though.

l.kostas

2017-05-19, 12:06

High School Fleet OVA's Promo Video Previews 2nd Part (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-05-19/high-school-fleet-ova-promo-video-previews-2nd-part/.116316)

^ ANN, dailymotion video. The YouTube video on the official website is region-locked to Japan.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/05/19/the-blue-mermaids-are-back-in-new-high-school-fleet-ova-preview
The OVA consists of two episodes: "Coco Nosa in a Pinch!" and "Coco Nosa in a Pinch?!" (No, that's not a typo -- the second title is the first title with an added question mark.)

Infinite Zenith

2017-05-24, 10:40

Regarding an older Tweet stating there might be more to Hai-Furi (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/02/01/high-school-fleet-tweet-sets-fans-hearts-a-flutter), there's been no word on whether or not it'll be a second season or movie. It's likely we will hear more within the next while, now that the second OVA is out, and I'm personally hoping for a second season.

xizro345

2017-05-24, 22:23

About the second part...

As expected, Coco's fears were unfounded, and the class remained together.
Also, they get a new ship - same class as Harekaze.

lfhoule

2017-05-25, 02:13

About the second part...

As expected, Coco's fears were unfounded, and the class remained together.
Also, they get a new ship - same class as Harekaze.

So, another Kagero class... did they get one of the "actual" Kagero class ships, or, like Harekaze was a made up (dummy) ship in the class, the new one is a made up one?

xizro345

2017-05-25, 10:52

I'm not expert on ships, but it looked like the same with a different designation. In fact I believe it had another name but they changed it to Harekaze.

Infinite Zenith

2017-05-27, 15:58

I'm not expert on ships, but it looked like the same with a different designation. In fact I believe it had another name but they changed it to Harekaze.

Orikaze was the name, but Akeno was permitted to rename the ship owing to their exemplary conduct and actions.
This was a fitting ending (https://infinitemirai.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/kouko-nosa-in-a-pinch-high-school-fleet-hai-furi-ova-part-two-review-and-reflection/) that, even if predictable, definitely captures the spirit of Hai-Furi.

blakstealth

2017-09-08, 18:22

Just finished everything. While the show itself wasn't bad, I think the OVAs could've done WAAAYYY more. It would've been a great opportunity to flesh out the world a bit more, especially getting some more perspective from the public about the incident. What happened to those researchers that caused the whole mess? Are they going to be punished? And the whole act of getting signatures turned out to be a waste of time. But that's not what was weird. What was weird was that the girls looked like they were about to show their petition (to the principal) so they don't get disbanded. But then that whole part is skipped to a new day where they open the orders only to be located to a new Harekaze. Coco calls it their plan a success, suggesting that the petition swayed the final decision...even though it didn't. I wonder how the discussion went down that night. Did (the principal) just tease them and told them the usual "we see what you've done and we'll consider the options" bullshit? The narrative was so weird; it makes little sense. And I guess the girls from Musashi were the ones that spread the rumor judging by the principal scolding them at the end.

If I can show any sympathy for OVA 2, it would be for shiro-chan's plushie. poor thing

Infinite Zenith

2017-11-22, 10:58

it looks like someone got around to giving the TV Tropes page on Hai-Furi a good fixer upper. All of the inaccuracies and speculations have been removed...finally, a page that is readable :)

One of the things that was removed in the cleanup was the notion that Akeno's nicknames for everyone were popular nicknames for cats, and it's gotten me curious: are the nicknames like "Mike", "Moka", "Tama" and "Shiro" really popular cat names? I've done some looking around and it seems like 1) this is not the case and 2) that it's only really one person (https://yaranakya.wordpress.com/2016/04/12/hai-furi-or-navy-catfight/) who's making such a claim. If there is substantial documentation that everyone has a cat-related nickname, (e.g. magazine scans, official character profiles, interviews), I'd love to hear them.

Magewolf

2017-11-22, 21:07

Infinite Zenith

2018-04-07, 09:41

Unverified sources state that Hai-Furi will be getting a movie (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-07/high-school-fleet-gets-new-anime-film/.130080). I would've preferred a second season, not a fan of that six-month wait between theatrical screenings and home releases.

Liddo-kun

2019-05-12, 05:06

Full song with subtitles. :)

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arkhangelsk

2020-10-29, 15:46

So, we have the film. I liked what it showed and it gave everyone a chance to shine and show their personalities. Now for some random, unimportant things that nevertheless caught a reaction.
15:00 Yes, I get it that Hiei developed a vacancy, but I think most sane navies will throw the offer first at the captain, not the deputy just because she has better theoretical grades (which clearly are not worth as much as they think, based on what happened). It seems that even in a world without airplanes, Japan is Japan.
21:50 I must say, I completely agree with the opinion of the purple haired girl whose name I've forgotten. Yes, where you take the hit makes a difference (though not nearly enough if you are in a tiny toyboat!), and yes if it is a contact fuze there's a chance a grazing shot would fail to detonate, but no sane bridge crew would choose to take a torpedo hit. In making the penalties for getting torped so ridiculously low (3 seconds instead of an instant out) that it is "smart" thing to game the system, this exercise is literally planting bad habits in the trainees. :frustrated:
26:45 Yes, that's the problem with Harekaze's crew sometimes, isn't it. They just lack that thing called Reliability... nice show for reminding us why they are not that well-placed in the school ranks :)
33:44 What is this, low realism simulation ... I get what they are trying to show, but really, can this thing really display much more than the luck of both sides? At least any way it rolls, Yokosuka is getting quite, uh, honored by the results, with their students shoving aside senior students in the other schools :heh:
49:13 These orders are most realistic, a lack of clear priorities and a desire to avoid responsibility on the part of the bureaucrat :)
53:16 This is pretty showy - those things must have enormous magnification.
57:00 I actually do like how Moka handled that one :)
1:13:00 I don't know, I'll be praising the gunnery team who prepared the firing data and the navigation team who made sure the relative positions are correct for indirect firing :)
1:16:00 Again ... the realism is stunning... :heh:
1:20:00 Nice highline transfer.
1:23:00 Really? They are going to say Moka really is aiming the guns herself... :heh:
1:29:20 As usual, Harekaze's crew has the jobs of the Navigator and the Navigation team reversed :heh:
1:34:00 And we have the trope of being able to predict the collapse of an unfamiliar structure to the second!
1:37:20 I refused to believe you caught that thing out of the air.

Infinite Zenith

2020-11-14, 23:56

So that's where I remember vaguely reading about the obstacle course! Anyways, we do have a dedicated thread on High School Fleet: The Movie (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=151039), and I think as more people have a chance to check things out, discussions on the film will begin in earnest.

Infinite Zenith

2020-12-07, 11:05

I became interested in re-watching Hai-Furi's original 2016 series after finishing the movie, and upon revisiting the series, I found it to remain a relatively fun one. The Totalitarian Virus was no less bizarre the second time around, but beyond this, the series stands up against the test of time reasonably well. I also found it to be a considerably more peaceful watch this time around.

As memory serves, I remember that during the anime's original run, early in the season, we had a bunch of discussion on the various materials around the series, and looking back, a lot of it ended up being tangential to the series proper. However, some of the posters made some particularly dubious claims, and believing them to be true would result in misconceptions or incorrect assumptions about the series that highlight why fan translations and materials from image boards like 4chan aren't trustworthy.

I ended up writing a post about the dangers of putting too much faith in fan translations and image boards after my re-watch that address four particularly egregious claims, and I've summarised them here:

The training torpedo sank the Sarushima

Wrong, in fact this is one of the things that the people at /a/ immediately contest -- an armed 93cm Long Lance would have blown the Sarushima in half, as LSCs literally have no armor (or modern missile destroyers for that matter). They simply weren't built to defend against an attack like that, because torpedoes no longer figure in modern (Cold War and onward) ship to ship combat.

Now the fact that an UNARMED Long Lance would have sunk the Sarushima though? That's where conspiracy theory and wild mass guessing steps in.

What this implies: If Akeno's decision resulted in the Sarushima sinking, it would show that she was completely inexperienced and makes calls on gut feelings alone, without a care for the consequences. This paints her character in a bad light and means her decisions for the rest of Hai-Furi are unsound. But, this isn't the case.

Why this is wrong: The torpedo used, to clarify, was a Type 93 with an inert training warhead, which would have completely different effects when deployed. These differences do not defeat the purpose of training with them, the aim is to help crews practise aiming and leading. Akeno explicitly orders a training torpedo used, hence, it was a Type 93 without a live warhead. Furthermore, modern naval vessels are built so that they consist of individual watertight compartments, and this allows ships to stay afloat even if their hull sustains damage. While the girls panic and assume they've sunk the Sarushima in episode two, a single torpedo would not be able to do so, and the list seen is probably just for dramatic effect.

The Hunt for Red October directly influenced Hai-Furi

According to this (http://www.hai-furi.com/special/report/) the production crew watched The Hunt for Red October as reference material:

なかなか参考資料が少ない作品だと思いますが、参考にされたものはありますか？

吉田　鈴木さんから参考資料を貸していただいたり、映画はいくつか観ました。『レッドオクトーバーを追え』などですね。船内の生活の参考にしています。

Whether its for script reference, of just crew conditions, is up to debate. :heh:

What this implies: In the aftermath of this claim, memes sprung up surrounding Hai-Furi, some benign, and others, disingenuous. By suggesting that the story and themes from The Hunt for Red October made their way into Hai-Furi, this falsely creates the impression that the latter is all-serious, with themes about late Cold War politics.

Why this is wrong: Myssa Rei misread the interview and did not provide a full context for things. In the interview being linked to, they were only interviewing Reiko Yoshida, who spoke about a range of topics pertaining to Hai-Furi. She mentions The Hunt for Red October as being one of several references she used, and in the other questions, Yoshida states that Hai-Furi was about overcoming difficulties.

@Myssa Rei Y'know, the staff was greatly inspired by "The Hunt of Red October" upon making Hai-Furi.

No, they weren't.

Takaaki Suzuki himself Tweeted about the absence of air power

I think that people should be MORE worried about another tweet by someone connected with the production itself, rather than getting angry at how airpower was just taken out of the picture by authorial fiat (because the sheer butterfly effect this would cause is already driving some people up the wall).

Why this is wrong: The question of why heavier-than-air flight is absent was a legitimate one. In a world like Hai-Furi's, having helicopters and helicopter carriers would allow for the Blue Mermaids to conduct search-and-rescue, emergency evacuation, observation and cargo-lifting duties with a much greater efficiency. It was not us "getting angry at how air power was taken out of the picture": from a practical perspective, it made little sense to exclude them, hence the discussion. The actual reason was so there's a chance for the World War Two-era ships to shine in the spotlight, which is acceptable for the story's sake.

The extra information you seem to be referring to were kind of Q&A Tweets from Military Adviser Takaaki himself:

https://i.imgur.com/Qbnq3QN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jwxZ2QZ.jpg

- Airplane was failed to be invented/developed, so no aerodynamic flying objects in this world
- This means no Aircraft carrier too. But there could be warships which have and only have planned would appear?

- Japan was not involved in WW2 because of Methane clathrate mining. Thus WW2 only involves Europe countries.
- No airplanes means no anti-airplane weapons

- Harekaze, Musashi, etc. were old ships being reuse for education purpose and ocean practice
- Line drawn at bridge indicates which school the ship belongs to (Red: Yokosuga, Blue: Kure, Yellow: Maizuru)
- Timeline setting is "Now" but not limited to that
- Electric devices and Sonar system on the ships are basically updated to the modern system being used by latest ships

- No airplanes means that the world still has much waiting to be explored
- Ships in the show are basically replicating the structure of the real things, only the ship's wheel being moved to the bridge (in order for easier drama)

What this implies: Assuming those were actually from Takaaki himself and translated correctly, it suggests that society in Hai-Furi were the sort of people who would give up when faced with difficulty. "Air power was too hard to develop, and since we failed, that's the end of it", is what I'm hearing. This is a very dangerous assumption to make, certainly painting the society in Hai-Furi in a negative light and defeating the purpose of the whole story, which was about overcoming challenges.

Why this is wrong: The account being linked to does not belong to Takaaki, and the Tweets were taken out of context. The original text only states that a director's commentary stated powered flight was unsuccessful but doesn't offer more details for why or what happened subsequently. So no, this wasn't a definitive piece of "authorial fiat" shutting down discussions. I find it interesting that Myssa Rei chose to only take screenshots of the Tweets rather than link to them directly. I get that screenshots can survive even if the Tweets are deleted, but it does make it a little tricker to get access to the text itself.

The writers didn't do their research for Hai-Furi's geology

The explanation given by Mashiro’s mother for the reason for the subsidence of Japan’s landmass being partly due to the over-mining of the undersea deposits of Methane Hydrate doesn’t make any sense. There’s a chance that she was genuinely misinformed, however.

What this implies: The writers didn't care enough to make Akeno and Mashiro's world believable.

Why this is wrong: This was posted to TV Tropes under the "artistic license" trope (another way of saying "look at us, we're smarter than the writers"). This isn't the case for this instance; I took a geology course as an elective during university, and one of the topics covered was subsidence. Subsidence from natural gas extraction is very much a real concern. Moreover, there are methane hydrate deposits near and in Japan. At scale, mining these could very well cause the ground to subside, so the explanation for how Hai-Furi's world ended up this way is plausible.

Conclusions

I am fully aware that this post comes four years too late to the discussion, and it's unlikely to change the minds of those who agreed with the myths above that I've busted, but the aim of this post is to hopefully help future readers coming upon this thread to better discern reality from fantasy, and not accept some of the claims said here that ended up being untrue. Similarly, I know that Myssa Rei was a well-known and respected poster around these parts, who was fond of bringing technical details to the discussion, but this does not mean that she was always right about everything. If anything, it shows that viewers shouldn't be so hasty to assume everything from an image board or a non-official source's translations are true. After this exercise, by induction, since Myssa Rei had struck out on all of these items, one wonders if her information for other series, like Girls und Panzer, is also reliable (i.e. wrong about Hai-Furi, wrong about everything else). I also notice that Myssa Rei dropped out of the discussions here after the fifth episode, which coincides with the timing of when I started questioning the authenticity of the Tweets surrounding the absence of flight, and also speculated that rather than mind control, it must've been a rabies-like virus (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5852232#post5852232) (this theory was, in fact, vindicated in episode eight. Where's my praise at? :p). Coincidence?

Infinite Zenith

2023-03-21, 12:38

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