Digimon Universe: App Monsters [Archive]

LAboy 456

2016-07-20, 04:57

First set of secondary characters (or characters without a buddy Appmon) has been revealed - all coming from the main character (Haru Shinkai)'s class:

http://img.animate.tv/news/visual/2016/1468976437_1_1_a1d7ba75c31b40e81df050e90efb0363.jp g(from left to right)

Yūjin Ōzora: Makoto Furukawa (Saitama from "One-Punch Man" and Justice "Seigi" Akazuka from "Taboo Tattoo")
Aoi Kashiki: Mai Fuchigami (Nagisa Shiota from "Assassination Classroom" and Miho Nishizumi from "Girls und Panzer")
Watson (Takeru Wato): Ryou Hirohashi (Sora Naegino from "Kaleido Star", Tails from "Sonic X" and Minoru Mineta from "Boku no Hero Academia")

;)

LAboy 456

2016-08-04, 08:28

2nd PV:

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Non-region blocked: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4mp4pn

:)

LAboy 456

2016-08-28, 13:11

3rd PV (1st CM):

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Non-region blocked: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4qfxbk

:)

LAboy 456

2016-09-09, 07:34

New visual key:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max650x650/cms/daily-briefs/106278/digimon-universe-kv.jpg:cool:

LAboy 456

2016-10-01, 18:04

Great first episode with good focus on the main character and his struggle from his introspection. There's still quite a lot to go (and more characters to be introduced), but his shy attitude might grow in confidence with time. That last scene was really intriguing, though...

By the way, very good OP and ED - loved the art on the latter... :cool:Shouldn't this be moved to the "Current Anime Series" section? :confused:

sefgen3189

2016-10-02, 02:18

I am actually excited for this, I can't find a subbed version of episode 1 though

Idealist 99

2016-10-02, 04:40

Shouldn't this thread move to Current Anime Section.
Well , I already suspect MC's Best friend to have a dark side.
He acts way too perfect to be real , Its obvious that he faking his personality.
Question is , What's his issue with MC ? He already has everything MC doesn't have.

Dengar

2016-10-02, 05:00

I went ahead and watched the raw because I am an impatient person.

So I don't completely understand what's going on, but I'm impressed by the aesthetics. The Applialize jingle is so incredibly catchy.

The whole thing really does not feel like digimon to me (in a good way, digimon should stay digimon, "kinda digimon but not" isn't going to work, it needs to be its own thing).

Also the vibes I'm getting remind me of Megaman Battle Network/Star Force. In a good way too.

So each Appmon is more or less based on a phone app or net function, with its powers and attacks being strongly tied to that aspect. Gatchmon appears to be based on a net search function. Messemon seems like a chat client, and that other one we saw is maybe the phone camera?

B214

2016-10-02, 12:12

So why is this called Digimon instead of Appmon....

snowey

2016-10-02, 13:46

I lost brain cells watching this its xros wars all over again

DMurphy

2016-10-02, 14:04

I actually really liked this first episode. It's got a nice aesthetic and a good sense of tone, and it felt fast-paced and fun. I can appreciate both that the 'smartphone apps' thing is a pretty bold conceit for a Digimon series, and that it makes a lot of business sense as a counterpart to Tri, even if it's not exactly a concept I like.

I found the main character kiiiind of obnoxious, though? His 'am I a main character' schtick wore a little thin, but I suspect the show will forget about it before long.

All in all, it reminded me of Hunters, but done a lot better, with a much clearer idea of what they were going for. Hunters was kind of a mess, and also kind of soul-suckingly boring, but it had an interesting concept, so it's nice to see Toei revisiting some of those ideas.

So why is this called Digimon instead of Appmon....

Probably on account of it being a Digimon series.

Kind of a silly question, really.

Galaxian

2016-10-02, 14:22

So why is this called Digimon instead of Appmon....

Because it's easier to promote the newest entry in a franchise than a brand new series.

Dengar

2016-10-02, 17:27

People treating this as "a new digimon series" will be disappointed though. I prefer to see it as a spinoff riding Digimon's tailwind. It has some nods and similarities, but is clearly trying to be its own thing.

When your target audience is a new generation entirely, you can't count on nostalgia to carry the show.

They tried to be new with Xros Wars, but everyone except me hated it for allegedly "breaking the rules". So this time they go with something different entirely. I totally see the logic here.

DMurphy

2016-10-02, 18:18

In all honesty, I would have more patience for people going 'bah, it's not really Digimon!' if we didn't go through this circus with a metric ton of Digimon series. We went through it with Tamers, and with Frontier, and with X-Evolution, and with Xros Wars, and now with this. The 'it's not really Digimon' song is practically fandom's anthem at this point.

It's a series about Digital Monsters partnering up with humans to fight other Digital Monsters -- those and having the brand name attached are really the only prerequisites for being a Digimon series. Hell, X-Evolution didn't even have humans involved, manga basis notwithstanding.

(I'd also have more patience for it if a lot of it wasn't couched in misinformation -- like when that interview came out and certain Youtubers who will remain unnamed were insisting it said that they only called it Digimon for marketing reasons, when they literally never said that and instead enthusiastically talked about how closely they'd studied 01 to try and pinpoint exactly what about it made it so successful.)

It is certainly a very different take on Digimon, and I'd definitely agree that it's the most different take on the concept that we've had in the franchise so far. That might not be for everyone! It is, however, still Digimon, and like as not, this is how all long-running franchises grow: They experiment with different concepts, they work with different interpretations and angles on their core theme, and then the elements that work well get repeated in future installments, and the elements that don't get left behind.

On an unrelated note: I didn't realise it when first watching, but there is a blatant Yggdrassil reference in the OP.

Blueknight78

2016-10-02, 18:22

probably gonna drop it, not just because dont really feel like a "digimon serie" but because it's feel too much more like really a game promotion than a real anime" all that things about he "searching weaknes" and have to tap/write it, make the anime look a little "dumbass for me", i feel more like they where just "promoting some mobiles app, really don't really clicked on me, i will give one or 2 more episodes before really drop it.

Galaxian

2016-10-02, 19:47

I feel that I would be more open with this series if it didn't carry the Digimon name, because that comes with certain expectations that this anime doesn't appear to be able to meet.

Also, the setting reminds me a lot of Cyber Sleuth, but, since that was a Digimon entry done right, it simply ticks me off even more.

Credit where credit is due though, the opening song is pretty cool.

B214

2016-10-02, 22:13

I lost brain cells watching this its xros wars all over again

Xros Wars was still better than this. >_>

Because it's easier to promote the newest entry in a franchise than a brand new series.

By ruining a long known franchise in return.

Chosen_Hero

2016-10-02, 22:49

Yeah, this feels like it will get annoying real quick, heck I think it already has.

Diluc

2016-10-02, 23:21

Guys let's give a chance with this series at least until they show us if them still keep "the Evolution" part for Appmon
After all "Evolution" is the strongest trademark in Digimon franchise.
Xross was forgivable because X-fusion still part of evolution in form of fusion.

Chichiryuushintei

2016-10-02, 23:28

Idealist 99

2016-10-03, 02:47

From the OP, it seems like the kid fuses with the Appmon.

I loved that in Tamers, so I'm down for that.

The kid was kind of annoying with the whole "main character" shtick, but hopefully that's done for.

Eh, it's worth a shot.

The Protagonist reminds me of Takuto from Tamers.
A Shy , timid and low self-steam Boy with a huge crush on a Classmate! Just like Takuto.

Dengar

2016-10-03, 03:06

By ruining a long known franchise in return.

Yes, because because of one show that doesn't adhere to your nostalgia standards, all the other shows that you did like when you were a kid suddenly turned into a pile of shit.

Do you even realise how nonsensical that argument is?

I wish I knew why the nostalgia brigade always have to be so melodramatic and annoying about their personal subjective opinions.

Faux Mecha

2016-10-03, 06:07

man it sure feels weird when this was released along side Adventure Tri despite not having any of the original Digimon designs appearing at all,
so any chance this will have a crossover with the old series that includes Tamers, Frontier, Savers, & Xross Wars universe?

Stark700

2016-10-03, 07:12

I think the first episode was alright, not great but not bad either. I had fun watching it with the the themes although the battles so far feels a bit cartoony.

Haru's voice bothers me somewhat as it sounds a bit high pitched for a kid. However, I did like how they portrayed Gatchmon so far.
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c46b714539f6a052a2c22330a09383c91475489455_full.pn g

B214

2016-10-03, 08:48

Yes, because because of one show that doesn't adhere to your nostalgia standards, all the other shows that you did like when you were a kid suddenly turned into a pile of shit.

Do you even realise how nonsensical that argument is?

I wish I knew why the nostalgia brigade always have to be so melodramatic and annoying about their personal subjective opinions.

I don't really care about nostalgia, if i did i wouldn't have like Xros Wars. I'm just saying that them treating this Appmon as Digimon is like calling Duel Masters Yu-Gi-Oh! simply because both are card games. They're just putting the word "mon" in the name there and say this is now Digimon casually. My complain is just that.

AntonKutovoi

2016-10-03, 10:08

There are monsters, they are digital, thus Digimon name fits just fine.

Wandering Soul

2016-10-03, 10:15

First episode was alright. The whole "main character" got old fast, but other than that, not much else to say.

Faux Mecha

2016-10-03, 10:25

i will start nicknaming Gatchmon as Googlemon from now on, Messagemon as Twittermon,

also wearing goggles makes you a main character? pfffttt..... say that to Masaru Daimon, he doesn't need a pair of goggles to punch god in the face [/spoiler alert]. :heh:

Dengar

2016-10-03, 17:06

Masaru was wearing the goggles in his heart though.

Dengar

2016-10-08, 03:54

So episode 2 is out, and I was mistaken, the word isn't "AppliGattai" (which rolls off the tong pretty well) but "AppGattai", which... is something I suppose I'll have to get used to.

Other than that, I don't know much, because I do not understand the Japanese. But it seems that AppLink either adds some stats and a new ability to an Appmon, or changes them into a different Appmon altogether. Not sure why one or the other happens, but I don't think the episode explained that (yet).

Guido

2016-10-09, 16:45

Last week's Sunday I watched the first episode and today rewatched it.

Whereas there are many people out there that understand AppliMon being Digimon I disagree.

From the first episode I got right away that AppliMon are an entirely different species from Digimon, nevertheless, still related.

I could think of the following analogy: AppliMon are to Digimon like Neanderthals were to Human beings in the real world.

The gist from watching the first episode two times is that Gatchmon's search led it to Haru, and Gatchmon is searching for a particular, memory chip card. However, there are other AppliMon, working for a mysterious A.I., keeping tabs on Haru and every human in the real world under surveillance.
The panic alarm almost went on when one of the AppliMon minions found out that Haru got an AppliDrive and made it to work inside the A.I. field to do battle against the Messemon character.
Nevertheless, the enemy AppliMon resumed keeping watch on Haru after its boss commanded it do so.
What's most unsettling towards the end of the first episode is that:

Haru's brother-like, childhood friend of his is actually not that kind-hearted as it seemed to be when he was first introduced.

My two cents is that either he's actually a spy or brainwashed by that unseen force to keep an eye on Haru without him noticing.

Basically, we've entered a new era in the Digimon franchise one where the mobile application networks are at their peak of their craze and popularity, and thus the AppliMon were borned.

Since, I feel that the old Digimon era is finishing and coming to a sort of spiritual end, specially taking into account the death of Kouji Wada, I feel this new dawn comes as a sort of refresh to Digimon.

Nonetheless, time will tell if the AppliMon universe stands out on its own without having to rely on stepping in its predecessor's shadow and becoming its own story, since I got the feeling as well this show was made to compete against other, kiddie mainstream shows; in this case, for example, Yokai Watch.

Honestly, while the battles do not impress me as much the suspense factor delivered as the characters are being spied upon by the mysterious A.I. without their knowledge gives me some effective creepiness that for the time being makes me to stick with this show.

Dengar

2016-10-09, 18:39

The word is "Appmon" or "Appli Monster".

As for it being digimon, apart from it being a spin-off more suited for the current era, someone did make the very astute observation:

There are monsters, they are digital.

Justice Knight

2016-10-10, 08:47

lol u usually give every anime 3 ep before dropping, I cant even survive past 2 ep for this series. I know its a new concept but too weird, gonna wait 10 ep later and try again.

Dengar

2016-10-10, 10:49

Is it weird because the concept of the show itself is weird? Or is it weird because it has digimon in the name?

B214

2016-10-10, 11:23

Watching this episode just made me rethink why is this called Digimon again cause it feels completely like a separate franchise.

Dengar

2016-10-10, 16:52

Watching this episode just makes me wonder how long it takes for people to get tired of saying the same thing over and over and over.

Galaxian

2016-10-10, 17:04

I'm surprised that I actually like Gatchmon himself. Everything else is either meh or bad so far.

Dengar

2016-10-10, 17:14

Maybe I'm just strangely attached to this show, but honestly, thank you for the honest opinion. It feels relieving that even among people who don't like it there's still people who judge the show on its own merits. V_V

EDIT: I happened to grab this from an interview about the upcoming PS4 game, Digimon World: Next 0rder:

You have a new series coming out in Japan called Digimon Universe: Appli Monsters. What are your thoughts on it?

Habu: “I’m not on that project, but the Appli Monsters team wants to make something that targets a younger audience. It’s really different from Digimon overseas, which is more for adults. We want to deliver a good game to guys in their 20s and make a really high quality game for adults, so that’s the biggest difference from Appli Monsters. Maybe if Appli Monsters goes on for a couple of years and becomes really popular, we can make something that both Appli Monsters kid fans and adult fans can enjoy.”

(Full Interview (http://gematsu.com/2016/10/interview-digimon-world-next-order-producer-kazumasa-habu-nycc-2016#rRj35um1FdYc2PUu.99))

In short, we still have Digimon (Remember, Cyber Sleuth only came out earlier this year). This is a new show targeting a new audience. Which is something I've been saying all along. Surely people understand this?

DMurphy

2016-10-10, 18:06

In all honesty, with the way people are going 'Oh, it's a new era for Digimon now, this means we will never have a Digimon series like we're used to again, alas, poor Yorick, I knew it -- a Mons show of most infinite jest, of most excellent fancy' you'd think that this is the first long-running franchise they've ever encountered. Or that there isn't a much more traditional Digimon series coming out intermittently in cinemas right now.

The other thing to consider is -- well, Bandai and Toei don't want to oversaturate the market. This was a big part of why Digimon declined so suddenly around Frontier (along with other problems like a somewhat deleterious shift in demographic) -- the market was oversaturated with Digimon merchandise, and as a result costs spiraled while profits plummeted, because that's what market oversaturation does.

Tri is currently airing and getting a ton of merchandise for it. Next Order only recently came out in Japan, and is still to come out in Europe and the US, and is getting a ton of merchandise as well. Cyber Sleuth is not all that far behind us either. All of these things hew to a very traditional idea of what Digimon is, and they are all aimed at roughly the same audience -- young men and women in their late teens and early twenties.

A series that takes a very different take on the franchise, and which aims itself at -- well, at an age slightly younger than the demographic Digimon has usually targeted in the past, really -- is good, because it allows Toei and Bandai to rake in more money (which they can put towards more Appmon, but they could equally put towards, say, a Digimon Adventure 04, or Digimon Next Order II: Now Even More Orderly) while maintaining a degree of market segregation.

Even for people who don't specifically like Appmon -- I'm, um, somewhat on the fence about it currently, but we'll see -- that's good news. That's a net positive for the franchise as a whole, which means you're more likely to get Digimon products you will like.

Dengar

2016-10-10, 18:19

In fact, the producers are quite aware of how popular Digimon still is among young adults right now. It's the reason why we got Cyber Sleuth in the first place, and why we are getting Tri and Next 0rder.

I don't understand why people are being so dramatic about their dislike of this show. It's like they think this show is ruining everything and has no right to exist.

B214

2016-10-10, 19:18

Watching this episode just makes me wonder how long it takes for people to get tired of saying the same thing over and over and over.

Wow so i'm not even allow to point out how the narration itself is calling the show Appmon making it look like a different franchise now. I guess i might as well just keep quiet now cause apparently i'm not allow to say what i think.

Dengar

2016-10-11, 02:00

First of all, I have absolutely no authority to decide what you are and are not allowed to say. Just because I get tired of hearing the same complaint over and over and over does not in some way mean it becomes a crime to do so, it just means I, the person Dengar, am incredibly annoyed by it. The real question is, why would you care what I think?

Faux Mecha

2016-10-11, 05:16

did President Obama actually appeared as a cameo in ep.2 as the 'Lost VIP no-jitsu'? :heh:

Dengar

2016-10-11, 08:26

I'm fairly sure he did (in a 'no celebrities were harmed' fashion). Is there any injoke about this that I'm missing?

Faux Mecha

2016-10-11, 11:05

seriously, every time Leviathan's logo/face appears on the screen, the first thing i think of is 'L' from Death Note.

DMurphy

2016-10-11, 13:24

I'm fairly sure he did (in a 'no celebrities were harmed' fashion). Is there any injoke about this that I'm missing?

Pppossibly insofar as it might be a reference to Hunters, where Obama also had a cameo, but more likely it's just that Obama is the most recognisable Head of Government and second most recognisable Head of State in the world, so having him show up makes for an easy visual shorthand for 'VIP.'

Dengar

2016-10-12, 16:18

http://virus.wikidot.com/leviathan

Could this be the reference?

DMurphy

2016-10-12, 16:23

http://virus.wikidot.com/leviathan

Could this be the reference?

Usually I'd go 'naaah, it's a coincidence', but the fact that it was created in 1999 (making for a nice 01 reference, which we know from the interview with the writers/producers was one of the main inspirations for App Monsters) and was an attempt to simulate neural nets (which would tie in well with what we've heard about Leviathan being an AI) and would spawn seven threads (potentially setting us up for either Demon Lords or Appmon versions of the Demon Lords -- and the OP already has a pretty overt Yggdrassil reference, so) makes me think it might be.

Dengar

2016-10-12, 17:01

DMurphy

2016-10-12, 17:22

Well, since Leviathan is a rather specific name to give to an AI that supposedly lives somewhere in the dark web, I figured it could possibly reference something to do with hacking or viruses and that was the closest matching thing I could find in a simple google search.

In all honesty, it didn't strike me as all that specific, largely because we've had several references to the internet as an ocean, and the dark web as being analogous to the deep seas, and the Leviathan is obviously a sea monster.

But now I'm actually wondering if maybe, in the planning stages, Leviathan came first and the 'the internet is an ocean' references came later.

Dengar

2016-10-13, 02:10

The 'internet is an ocean' thing is a fine complimentary reference, but if you ask me personally, it's kind of weak by itself.

Guido

2016-10-13, 23:02

I guess now I know why people are feeling uneasy with this show past two episodes. Every time that Haru appRealizes Gatchmon into the real world too much and unnecessary fanfare plays out consuming running time. Plus, that voice repeating "Gatchmon" and his stats is starting to make me feel fed up.

As for the rest of the episde, it played generic and ordinary, since the AppLink fusion only involves Gatchmon merging with other Appmon one at a time in order to form DoGatchmon. It is a pity, that Haru and Gatchmon cannot bio-merge to become a powerful digivolution to Gatchmon.

BTW, I did not forget the Obama reference in this episode.

http://virus.wikidot.com/leviathan

Could this be the reference?

Thanks for the links. Up to now I'd known about the Leviathan references from the Bible, but remained without knowledge about an actual virus designed with the same name.

Perhaps, a coincidence but likely fitting for the end villain in the AppliMon show. Hopefully, the Demon Lord Leviamon may or not make a full appearance in this show along with the others.

About the net, doesn't the Digital World has the Dark Ocean (http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Ocean) serving as a counterpart to the application network's dark web?

DMurphy

2016-10-14, 08:31

About the net, doesn't the Digital World has the Dark Ocean (http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Ocean) serving as a counterpart to the application network's dark web?

The Dark Ocean is, I think, meant to not be digital at all -- it's a separate world, like the World of Dreams the kids end up in, that just happens to lie very close to the Digital World.

Dengar

2016-10-15, 18:40

Leviamon? Dark Ocean? Wrong show.

Also the complaints about stock footage sounds rather unfair since no one complains when digimon does it.

noctis_lucis

2016-10-15, 23:54

Every time that L appeared I could't avoid thinking about L, it's like he has become the big bad or something.

Faux Mecha

2016-10-16, 01:10

probably funnier if not!Obama somehow also plays a key role when Leviathan starts manifesting in the real world or becoming a Buddy with his own Appmon.

Dengar

2016-10-17, 06:38

So DoGatchmon gets its own Appmon chip. However, it seems some conditions need to be met before it can be used on its own.

Faux Mecha

2016-10-17, 09:52

oh dear, i did not know MMORPG games have feelings &.........parents? (not programmers by the way but actual boy & girl Appmons making love)
they hated their life because they were born badly programmed games thus a total flop?
oh & the green golem almost looks like a Minecraft character,

also i think the jokes are bordering on breaking the 4th wall here with Haru complimenting DoGatchmon looks like he's made of CGI........ despite in anime format he IS animated using CG...... :heh:
the DoGatchmon fusion failure Shukamon is a NEET? well that explains everything, at least its not a berserker Dark Digi-Evolution that Haru should feel lucky in a way.

FlareKnight

2016-10-17, 11:59

Not a bad first few episodes.

I hate to say this to Haru, but if the game died in the first few months...most people probably hated it. If there was any kind of cult following that might have allowed the game to survive in some manner.

Now we've seen the possible first super combination for Gachimon, but also what happens when the fusion dance fails :heh:.

Will also say...not a huge fan of the guy doing the voices for the "App-Realize" stuff. Kind of annoying honestly and makes me want to skip past the stock footage just to not hear him.

Still, a decent show.

Bgunit

2016-10-17, 16:14

Quick question how many standard type app min because my theory is that there will only be 7 god types one for each type and I think all appmon will be used for the god types.

Dengar

2016-10-17, 16:55

Asking that is kinda pointless since nobody knows the answer.

Bgunit

2016-10-17, 17:28

So in case anybody is curious about my theory here it is there should be 56 standard grade appmon and I think this is how the appmon evolves: standard + standard = super + super = ultimate + ultimate = god. If this is true then for the buddy appmon to reach god grade their human partners must have 7 other standard appmon. If this is all true I think there should be 3 more humans with appli drivers that will debut in the anime.

DMurphy

2016-10-17, 19:23

I mean, while that's definitely possible, it's pretty specific and we don't have much reason to believe it's the case.

(Although, that having been said, I'm calling now that Yujin, Ai, and Watson are all going to get partners, and that Yujin might have one already, since he seems to have a secretly evil thing going on.)

Actually, at the moment, I'm wondering if the Leviathan plot might end up being resolved pretty quickly. Apparently you need seven of the special Appmon to go and fight him, and two of them have already been accounted for -- that's awfully quick by any standard.

Not to mention, they're playing their hand regarding Leviathan pretty early. I mean, they revealed his name in the second episode, I don't think even Bagramon got revealed that fast. Digimon tends to thrive off injecting a certain amount of mystery into their storylines, so revealing information this quickly is a shade unusual.

Dengar

2016-10-18, 10:40

The enemies were called "The bagra army" so.... yeah.

That being said, I don't see what's wrong with revealing the villain's name early. Where is the harm?

DMurphy

2016-10-18, 11:44

The enemies were called "The bagra army" so.... yeah.

That being said, I don't see what's wrong with revealing the villain's name early. Where is the harm?

There's no harm in it at all -- I've seen plenty of excellent shows where they reveal their villain in the very first episode.

But I never said it was a problem, I said it was unusual.

Idealist 99

2016-10-19, 01:56

Still waiting for Eri to appear.
Has anyone notice that Gatchmon has the same voice as Pikachu and Shota from Pokemon ?

Dengar

2016-10-19, 02:21

I think you are mistaken. They seem to be voiced by different people.

OkamiNoKaze

2016-10-21, 22:04

Do you think we'll get a "Tindermon" or "Pandoramon"? Oh, or how about a birdlike appmonthat likes to crash into buildings. What app types do you all think should have an appmon?

Dengar

2016-10-22, 03:40

Well some types of apps, in particularly games, should probably be conflated into one. Like those half a million RPGs where you buy some kind of crystal to randomly roll for stuff and hope you actually get something that isn't shit like the majority of possible 'prizes'.

Guido

2016-10-22, 10:18

With the RAWs I was able to understand that Haru and Gatchmon need to get all SevenCodes in order to beat Leviathan, however, things begin to take a twisted turn with the character of Rei getting introduced already searching and collecting the SevenCodes. Hence, I do imagine he's going to be a thorn to Haru's side for, at least, the show's earlier story arcs.

Ok. With that covered I want to comment that this third episode marked a change of pace from the whole "let's AppliLink or AppliFuse in order to beat the infected Appmon" routine.
To me it was likeable the time spent focusing on RolePlaymon as a fleshed-out character with worries, anxieties, and a defeated mood since it took quite hard toll that its game got shut down due to users complaining at how unbalanced the difficulty settings were designed. However, Haru's love for fantasy novels quickly made him to adapt and enjoy RolePlaymon's game to his heart satisfaction, and, thus the Appmon managed by itself to get rid of the virus upon learning from Haru that its game was, indeed, fun after all.

Galaxian

2016-10-23, 11:03

Do you think we'll get a "Tindermon" or "Pandoramon"? Oh, or how about a birdlike appmonthat likes to crash into buildings. What app types do you all think should have an appmon?

I just want Pokemongomon. :heh:

Dengar

2016-10-23, 12:02

Instead of one based on pokemon go, it would have to be one based on the concept of AR-game in general. Just like RPGmon.

Kyero Fox

2016-10-23, 22:51

Any Sexy digimon yet? lol

Dengar

2016-10-24, 09:16

I doubt that'll be a new while. We've only just defeated our first boss and he was only a Super grade. Notice how almost all Standard grade appmon are all roughly the same height and proportions? Super grade appmon appear to be similar in this regard as well.

Maybe as they grow in power, their proportions gradually become more humanlike?

To comment on this show's use of CG. It seems the show uses CG in a very specific manner, rather than randomly to cut costs. It makes you look at an appmon and immediately say "Hey, that's a Super grade digimon, I wonder how powerful they are".

Faux Mecha

2016-10-24, 12:13

Dengar

2016-10-24, 17:15

Define "ugly as heck". As well as "better".

Faux Mecha

2016-10-24, 23:33

Define "ugly as heck". As well as "better".

the CG for the new female Appmon at the end looked out of place to me, so far DoGatchmon, Shuukamon, & Scorpmon seems to be okay as they somehow blend well with the 2D environment.

Dengar

2016-10-25, 12:08

Maybe a little less budget went into that scene?

Guido

2016-11-06, 10:38

a Halloween episode eh? sadly a missed opportunity to have the horror themed OG universe Digimons appearing as cameos, but oh well,

am i the only one who thinks DoGatchmon yelling out loud at Scorpmon for a surprise attack dumb? i mean what is the point of sneaking around him when you do that,

also the CG Appmons looked ugly as heck, i know we can't expect X-Evolution level of CG but still they could have done better.

For the time being, I can overlook those animation flaws, since to me the episode turned that well with Cameramon planning out ahead its whole strategy to attempt stealing the AppliDrive from Haru, even as far as fooling the crowd into making them believe that capturing Haru formed part of a special event in order to get a prize.

Returning with DoGatchmon, yelling out aloud at the midst of a sneak attack is foolish, I know. Particularly, when Haru went through all that trouble searching for blind spots in camera technology to create an opening for DoGatchmon at Scorpmon.

Finally, although Cameramon either is gone for good or incapacitated for the time being, I at first thought that it was enabled to AppliFused due to Leviathan's influence...

That or there was a human that enabled Cameramon to Appli drive.

Still, I'm suspecting Haru's childhood friend, Yujin, basing my comments from the way he stared at Haru with those blank eyes since the end of the first episode.

DMurphy

2016-11-06, 12:14

It was a human. We get a shot of a silhouetted human using an Appli Driver.

Or, I say 'silhouetted,' but Haru later says that they were 'dressed in black,' so it seems they were actually in a black bodysuit.

Also, when we saw Yujin in his halloween costume, it included a black bodysuit.

Idealist 99

2016-11-23, 08:21

Well , One thing is clear.
This anime has nothing to do with Digimon , It just Put Digimon on the title to get some attention.
I would rather prefer a Spin-off Digimon Adventure with a huge connection with Tri series.

Little late but here is a poster with Haru and Ai
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M9J9jzR_Gbw/WCXcSOydRtI/AAAAAAAAGjk/8pJXed2IoNM/s640/IMG_20161111_085705.jpg

It making me wanna see the episode that featuring the cultural festival.
Anyway , Hau reveal to have a crush on Kashiki Ai ! I'm wondering if he going to maintain that crush or move on with Eri.
I mean , Who Better ? Eri or Ai .

I can see Ai's father Playing as major role in the future episode since he is a researcher.
Maybe , He was involve with The Birth of Leviathan and Appmon.

AntonKutovoi

2016-11-23, 12:23

Well , One thing is clear.
This anime has nothing to do with Digimon , It just Put Digimon on the title to get some attention.

And once again, what is Digimon? Digital monsters. This show have monsters and they are digital.

DMurphy

2016-11-23, 16:00

And once again, what is Digimon? Digital monsters. This show have monsters and they are digital.

This. It always makes me shake my head when people start going 'They just put Digimon in the title for marketing!' because that has literally never been how marketing works, and also because it's literally about digital monsters who evolve into other digital monsters.

Appmon is closer to being an archetypal Digimon show than Xros Wars ever was, and you don't see people going "Well, this is not Digimon, this is an entirely new show that they've slapped the name onto."

Idealist 99

2016-11-23, 16:00

And once again, what is Digimon? Digital monsters. This show have monsters and they are digital.

That case , Porygon is also a Digimon.
Speaking of which , I probably will have tough choice with Shipping in Appilmonster.
Both Ai and Eri look so well and they have good personality.
Atleast Haru already has a crush on Ai unlike some other oblivious guy.

Also , Is Haru voiced by a girl ? He feels somewhat girly !

DMurphy

2016-11-23, 16:41

That case , Porygon is also a Digimon.

That's a poor argument and you know it. Stop pretending you don't understand.

Kurohane

2016-11-24, 01:02

Wow, that scene at the end with Mienumon shown as the one who created that apptuber was actually quite intimidating and opens plenty of fridge horror.

Also , Is Haru voiced by a girl ? He feels somewhat girly !

Yes, he's voiced by a female seiyuu

Guido

2016-11-26, 11:43

Eri's introduction into the show appeared bland to me, and then I thought her backstory might have been interesting but turned out was nothing new under the sun.

She and Dokamon compliment each other well personality likewise, if I have to say, but her "look at me" personality truly bugs me to no end.

On the other hand, I have expectations upon Rei once his character starts to make a move.

Dengar

2016-11-26, 13:02

Eri's voice actress kinda lacks soul to me. She's okay when she's not in her idol persona, but when she goes all high and mighty it just feels off.

Kurohane

2016-11-26, 13:35

I feel the anime staff is trying too hard to prove that the ideas in Hunters weren't wrong, but no one thought the pure ideas were wrong (except making Nene an idol; I will never get over that), just the execution of it.

Eri's introduction episodes were not very well constructed, and a bit underwhelming. Nothing wrong with her character though. I like how all the characters so far come across as flawed individuals, like you would expect from a human being. I think they do the next character better though.

DMurphy

2016-11-26, 14:34

In all honesty, neither Eri nor Astra seemed to have particularly great introductory episodes. They've both grown on me a little in the episodes since, but their introductions were pretty poorly done -- Astra's even more than Eri's, I think.

Dengar

2016-11-26, 14:41

I also feel like the show is stretching the limits of how long it can keep up the introductions. I really hope something relevant happens soon. Maybe more of the seven codes showing up.

Kurohane

2016-11-26, 14:57

Just last episode though, the entire plot was Mienumon essentially putting the fake apptuber out there and see what would come of it. Just a reminder that nothing the main characters do are out of the eyes of Leviathan. I don't mind the episodes taking time to have fun with themselves, because once the main plot starts up, things are going to get rather serious.

Dengar

2016-11-26, 15:47

I'm assuming the fourth guy will stay out of scope for a little bit or play the antagonist for a little while as the plot picks up.

I'm just hoping the plot will pick up soon.

Faux Mecha

2016-11-30, 09:28

so Leviathan is just essentially Skynet? well minus time traveling robots that looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

chaos_animagic

2016-11-30, 21:16

so Leviathan is just essentially Skynet? well minus time traveling robots that looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Yea, looks like it

Security Program gone rogue and is taking over the world.

Only difference is... Leviathan seems to be working very very slow... while Skynet pretty much instantly took over all computer operated machines and killed off 80% of humans in under 30 mins.

More or less Leviathan is like a kid when compared to Skynet, LOL

Dengar

2016-12-02, 07:57

I brought this up a while ago, but if you ask me, the inspiration for Leviathan's name came from here: http://virus.wikidot.com/leviathan

Combined with the fact that the internet is treated like an ocean and the Leviathan is a sea monster.

Kurohane

2016-12-02, 22:34

Hackmon is hax. Keeping up with the formula we'll see his app fusion in the next episode.

Also if I keep hearing Eri and Astra's catchphrases 3-4 times an episode... just please, tone it down.

Dengar

2016-12-03, 13:46

Well, repetition kinda works a lot for kids.

alex_drian

2016-12-03, 16:14

Hackmon is hax. Keeping up with the formula we'll see his app fusion in the next episode.

Also if I keep hearing Eri and Astra's catchphrases 3-4 times an episode... just please, tone it down.

You don't see many anime for kids, right?

Guido

2016-12-03, 18:35

This episode was more entertaining and funny with or without Eri's usual, idol routine. To be honest, Eri looks cuter and tsundere everytime she messes at cooking and doing proper meals; I know the girl-cooking-failure trope is a tired cliché, but the animators nailed it right by infusing it into Eri's character.

Moreover, I liked how this episode played as another pace changer like the third one did, since at first I suspected Perorimon behind the data incidents, but it turned out to be another Appmon. In fact, the episode itself felt to me that fleshed out most of Perorimon's personality, and my guts are telling me that from now on Dokamon will be in the middle kowtowing to either side for peace whenever Eri and Perorimon will start arguing.

Yes, they got two of the SevenCodes, but they do not know that Rei's gotten one earlier, and, likely, he has acquired another SevenCodes.

Wandering Soul

2016-12-03, 22:16

Dengar

2016-12-04, 04:52

Trust me, the target audience will not complain. They love catchphrases.

AntonKutovoi

2016-12-05, 04:11

Eri's voice actress cosplayed as Haru:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy5sTgqUUAAdPPA.jpg

Kurohane

2016-12-08, 16:35

And this is why I don't trust emails.... When it sounds too good to be true, that's because it's really not.

So that's what the watches are for...

Rei is an interesting character. Wonder what his stakes are in all this. I think they did a good balance of making him both intimidating and likeable.

So Leviathan has already taken over both the idol and fast food industries.

Eri's voice actress cosplayed as Haru:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy5sTgqUUAAdPPA.jpg

Then who did Haru's VA dress up as? or was she there?

Guido

2016-12-10, 11:28

So far, out of the three main charas Torajirou holds the most fleshed out past. His past dealing in between succeeding his family traditions versus following his personal desires put a considerable strain during his middle childhood days, and, thus delivering to me a level of gravitas to actually care for his character.

Nevertheless, his trademark pun is not only a cringe for my ears having to listen to it every time he utters it but also makes me pissed off; though I do admit that Eri's tagline worn out on me hearing it over and over in the same episode that she got introduced, Torajirou surpassed her due to me taking an instantaneous dislike for his pun from the second time and onwards.

Although his past with Musimon revealed and explained from when, how, and why he caught his trademark pun, nevertheless, I'm fed up with it.

DMurphy

2016-12-17, 19:39

More and more, I feel like Leviathan is definitely not the final villain. Because, if you think about the pacing -- two of its four lieutenants have already been defeated, the protagonists have 3/7 Seven Codes, and with our main four all definitely introduced now, the plot focus is likely going to shift to focus more on the Seven Codes.

It seems almost more likely that Leviathan will be the villain for the first 24-26 episodes, and then the latter half of the series (if it's 50 or so episodes long) will have a new villain.

Dengar

2016-12-18, 12:42

DMurphy

2016-12-18, 13:41

Wow ok I definitely should not visit here until I've seen the subs, lol.

Well, now that I already have.. Isn't this like how Digimon shows usually structure themselves.

Although I'd like to point out that it could be like with Xros, where the halfway point gives us a mid-boss, and then the plot changes, introducing new lieutenants to fight.

Probably the less said about Xros Wars' plot change the better, since I would call that a soft retool, as opposed to something like, say, Adventure's multiple arcs, or Saver's slightly awkward tone transitions. Xros Wars' second half isn't just a different arc, it's practically an entirely different show, with a completely different design aesthetic, tone, and focus.

A large part of that actually probably is because Bagramon was the villain throughout. While other Digimon shows keep themselves fresh by cycling through villains at a fairly rapid clip, Xros Wars starts to feel its pacing problems fairly early on, and the soft retool seems to be in part because the Digimon formula doesn't lend itself very well to having a single antagonist throughout.

But I digress.

If you mean 'do Digimon shows usually structure themselves with multiple villains' -- yes, they do, of course. But the show has been very keen to big Leviathan up as being the final boss, and more than, say, Devimon or Cherubimon or even Ken as the Kaiser, he's tied into the show's themes and motifs in a fairly fundamental way, if that makes sense.

Which makes it interesting to see exactly how the series will change itself up when Leviathan is gone. Will the next villain be Leviathan's creator, and explore the creation of the Appmon? Will, actually, Leviathan's death signal a transition where more familiar Digimon start showing up and Appmon are contextualised as being a subset of them? Will L-Corp take the lead as the main antagonists?

There are a lot of interesting ways to play it, potentially, so it'll be fun seeing where the series goes after Leviathan -- or if it'll find a way to extend Leviathan's shelf life, so to speak.

(But if you mean 'don't Digimon shows usually seem to have their main plots halfway down when they're twelve episodes through' -- no, no, they decidedly do not.)

Idealist 99

2016-12-18, 14:53

https://68.media.tumblr.com/32c529b069a928a2450356bf7b0138cd/tumblr_oic4amh48T1qbo867o1_1280.png

Oh my , Haru finally making some progress toward Ai-chan.
I was worried about a potencial love-triangle between him , Ai and Eri but I guess I don't have to worry about that.
Does anyone notice the striking similarity between Haru and Takuto from Digimon tamer?
For starter ,
Both of them are voiced by girls.
Both of them has timid nature
Both of them has a crush on their classmate
Both of them shows feminine traits

Anyway , I will look forward Haru's Best friend (Yuujin) becoming his greatest enemy while his great Rival (Rei) becoming his Best Friend .

Dengar

2016-12-18, 14:55

DMurphy

2016-12-18, 15:10

I don't think they should suddenly bring digimon into this. "Similar but different" still means different. And they're fundamentally different. They're about as similar as Demons from SMT are to Digimon.

I think that's a standpoint that only makes sense if you buy into the 'this isn't really Digimon' narrative -- which is an idea that only makes sense if you ignore, for example, interviews by the show's creators in which they enthusiastically talk about how they want this series to be a throwback to Adventure, and how inspired they are by Adventure, and how they want to scale Digimon down to its core features.

Or if you ignore the fact that, you know, it's a show about Digital Monsters who are partnered with humans who make them evolve using digivices.

Which isn't me saying that other kinds of Digimon will show up. As I often find myself doing on these threads, I'm advocating that there is a difference between what you know will happen, what you think will happen, and what you want to happen, and that a certain amount of cognitive bias doesn't solid evidence make. Them showing up can only be dismissed out of hand if you're drinking the Kool-Aid of the hysterical arm-flailing Idealists of the world.

Dengar

2016-12-18, 15:27

Kurohane

2016-12-18, 15:37

I think that's a standpoint that only makes sense if you buy into the 'this isn't really Digimon' narrative -- which is an idea that only makes sense if you ignore, for example, interviews by the show's creators in which they enthusiastically talk about how they want this series to be a throwback to Adventure, and how inspired they are by Adventure, and how they want to scale Digimon down to its core features.

I'm glad they were inspired but didn't copy from Adventure.

Also I'm not arguing that it won't happen, but rather, I'm arguing that them crossing over (in anything but a crossover special) is a terrible idea. And it probably would serve no purpose anyway.

*remembers Hunters* No, I don't want to go through that again!

DMurphy

2016-12-18, 15:43

"Like Adventure, inspired but Adventure, but different from Adventure."

Also I'm not arguing that it won't happen, but rather, I'm arguing that them crossing over (in anything but a crossover special) is a terrible idea. And it probably would serve no purpose anyway.

Also, my argument was exactly that. The demons from SMT are also digital monsters partnered with human beings.

-- Of course it's different from Adventure. It's a different entry in the franchise, they weren't just going to re-air Adventure again, that's not news. A statistical majority of Digimon shows are not, in fact, Adventure.

(And SMT is as irrelevant and disingenuous a point as when Idealist brought up Porygon, because they're from entirely different franchises.)

It's not crossing over, either, really, because Appmon is a Digimon series, and Appmon are Digimon. Whether it's a bad idea or not is a matter of opinion, and mine is that it would be completely down to how they execute it -- but there's nothing crossover-y about taking some of the recurring creatures of your franchise and putting them in another installment of your franchise.

Dengar

2016-12-18, 16:04

The entire setting follows entirely different rules. It just isn't compatible. There isn't even a digital world. Appmon come from the internet itself.

Appmon is a sub-franchise, a spin-off. That puts it on the same level as "a different franchise". The only thing it has in common with Digimon is that the name is in the subtitle.

It's like what Persona is to SMT.

Or what ATOM is to Action Man.

DMurphy

2016-12-18, 16:08

The entire setting follows entirely different rules. It just isn't compatible. There isn't even a digital world. Appmon come from the internet itself.

Every entry in the franchise has followed different rules.

Appmon is a sub-franchise, a spin-off. That puts it on the same level as "a different franchise". The only thing it has in common with Digimon is that the name is in the subtitle.

Ohhh, I see. Well, if you can just show me where a producer or writer has said "this is a sub-franchise/spin-off, and we consider it to be functionally a different franchise," in no uncertain terms, then we can definitely come to an agreement there.

Otherwise you're just talking nonsense again, because we've looped back around to 'what you think is not the same as what you know.'

Dengar

2016-12-18, 16:15

It's not so much what I know, but rather what I observe just by looking at the show.

And please don't call other people's views nonsense just because they don't match your own.

Guido

2016-12-18, 16:23

The preview for this particular episode was misleading, because it briefly suggested that the episode itself would had been all about Torajirou and Eri facing each other at bitter showdowns.

That might have been the case shortly at the beginning and towards the end of this episode, but I'm glad it was misleading since most of it was invested on Torajirou's obsession competing at becoming the best AppTuber at the expense of hurting his true fans who truly loved his first videos and isolating himself from Musimon.

In fact, Torajirou and Musimon are my favorite partner-couple since so much of their past and their close friendship is being fleshed out, as well exploring each of the two as individual characters as well. It's clear that amongst the duo Musimon is the voice of reason, and Torajirou has become who he is thanks to the former's sincere friendship and encouragement.

For an exception and another change of the pace, the Appmon defeated by Mediamon did not possess a 7Code, but I'm glad they're done introducing all the Appli-Drivers.
Rei has already been introduced since episode three or so, and it's a matter of time he gets to make his move properly into the show.

DMurphy

2016-12-18, 16:32

It's not so much what I know, but rather what I observe just by looking at the show.

And please don't call other people's views nonsense just because they don't match your own.

So I was right to say that you were getting what you think confused with what you know. Of course. :rolleyes: You should have said that at the start instead of wasting time with nonsense.

For an exception and another change of the pace, the Appmon defeated by Mediamon did not possess a 7Code, but I'm glad they're done introducing all the Appli-Drivers.
Rei has already been introduced since episode three or so, and it's a matter of time he gets to make his move properly into the show.

I admit, while you're right about it being a change of pace -- and a probably needed one at that -- I did have a moment of 'goddammit, I was hoping it'd be another 7Code' when watching that episode.

Kurohane

2016-12-18, 16:50

I wonder, is there ever going to be a specific reason why certain Appmon possess the 7 codes. I understand Trash and Mail apps to some extent, but a RPG game app?

DMurphy

2016-12-18, 16:56

I wonder, is there ever going to be a specific reason why certain Appmon possess the 7 codes. I understand Trash and Mail apps to some extent, but a RPG game app?

I think I heard something about there being seven types of Appmon, so one of each type has a code? So Mailmon is Social, Gomimon is Tool, and Roleplaymon is -- idk, Entertainment?

LostSome

2016-12-18, 17:39

I think I heard something about there being seven types of Appmon, so one of each type has a code? So Mailmon is Social, Gomimon is Tool, and Roleplaymon is -- idk, Entertainment?

Roleplaymon is Game. Entertainment is more about music, art, etc. like Musimon.

Dengar

2016-12-19, 02:00

So I was right to say that you were getting what you think confused with what you know. Of course. :rolleyes: You should have said that at the start instead of wasting time with nonsense.

So... Instead of being a decent person and not call things nonsense because they don't align with your own views.... You continue to call things nonsense just because they don't align with your own views. Got it.

Kyero Fox

2016-12-19, 08:17

How is this about Digimon? lol sounds more like a slice of life anime.

Dengar

2016-12-24, 03:39

Guido

2016-12-24, 15:17

At first I thought that the ninth episode would've been an all filler, but appearances were deceiving at surface level.

The first part of this episode was funny watching all AppMon antics as were competing to be the best, however, the second part of the episode truly moved the plot forward.

Appmon and AppliDrivers for first time seriously discussed on Leviathan and its true nature. Hence, from what I learned was that Leviathan is the Applimon's Universe version of Skynet except that the former is working its way to someday overtake and wipe out humanity at an immensely slower pace than the latter did in its own universe.

What I liked most about the conversation was the kids discussing a deeper topic at how Artificial Intelligence beings like Applimon, for example, are no different from real world people. Hence, everyone gathered gave serious thoughts on their determination to stop Leviathan for the good sake of both humans and Applimon.

Finally, Hackmon (and later Rei's) chaotic but much anticipated entrance, and the little creep finally shedding onto the light the reason as to why the AR fields are chaotic, since the fields themselves are a simulated construct on what Leviathan will do once overtaking the real world and tearing apart, hence, the meaning of the AR fields can also be interpreted as a warning to the AppliDrivers taking them out of context.

DMurphy

2016-12-24, 15:57

So now that I finished all the subs until this point, I'm not sure what I've seen in the spoiler. They mentioned something about how two "lieutenants" were already defeated. But they only defeated one enemy over the past two episodes, and there hasn't really been any poohah about them being a "lieutenant" of anything. Nor has there been any mention of how many of them there are in the first place.

We saw Mienumon, Sakusimon, and an unnamed Appmon talking with Leviathan (well, one of them was sleeping), and it was pretty heavily implied that Cameramon was on par with them, back in episode four. Cameramon and Sakusimon have both been defeated. That's two, leaving Mienumon and Thus Far Unnamed Sleeping Digimon.

You're actually coming across as a little creepily obsessed with me now, since the only thing you've said on this thread for a while is passive-aggressively alluding to something I've said. Which is weird, it's not like I even insulted Taiyang from RWBY or anything.

Appmon and AppliDrivers for first time seriously discussed on Leviathan and its true nature. Hence, from what I learned was that Leviathan is the Applimon's Universe version of Skynet except that the former is working its way to someday overtake and wipe out humanity at an immensely slower pace than the latter did in its own universe.

Well, it looks like Leviathan is working with somewhat more limited tools, or at least a very different set of tools. It doesn't seem like it has access to things like nukes, or robot soldiers, or anything like that -- it has 'corrupting Appmon,' and it doesn't seem able to control them as much as just turn them evil; and it has surveillance; and it has digitising humans, but that seems to be more or less it, and we don't know what the circumstances need to be for that last.

It's in a bit of a bind, not least because it seems to have a pretty limited ability to interact with the real world, whereas Skynet could cause massive destruction right off the bat.

Diluc

2016-12-25, 11:25

How is this about Digimon? lol sounds more like a slice of life anime.

It's not the first time, Digimon tamer went with slice of life genre at early season.

Dengar

2016-12-25, 11:49

We saw Mienumon, Sakusimon, and an unnamed Appmon talking with Leviathan (well, one of them was sleeping), and it was pretty heavily implied that Cameramon was on par with them, back in episode four. Cameramon and Sakusimon have both been defeated. That's two, leaving Mienumon and Thus Far Unnamed Sleeping Appmon.

You might be right. I didn't get that vibe from Cameramon. Lieutenants usually command people though... But again, you might be right, idk.

That being said, have you so little faith in your own arguments that you must accompany them with ad hominem every time?

DMurphy

2016-12-25, 13:24

That being said, have you so little faith in your own arguments that you must accompany them with ad hominem every time?

I think dismissing people being rightly creeped out by you as just ad hominem attacks is a bit disingenuous, but that's not a topic for this thread.

Sageblink

2016-12-25, 17:09

https://media.tenor.co/images/54451401d52c0dd2fe9ee5752857d53c/raw

Alright guys.
I'll throw myself in just to say that I kinda like this show.
Yeah sure, it's a spin-off of digimon with the regular formula MotW and no plot-twist whatsoever but deep inside, I kinda like this.

Except the catchphrases. Too much, too annoying.

DMurphy

2016-12-25, 17:50

Except the catchphrases. Too much, too annoying.

The catchphrases really vexed me at first, and now I almost don't notice them. Which is not really a point in the show's favour, if it uses those catchphrases so much that they've effectively just become white noise.

orion

2016-12-25, 19:27

One catchphrase is a little bit annoying but I'll get used to it.

It's a shame Rei's brother got kidnapped by mistake.

Sageblink

2016-12-25, 20:09

The catchphrases really vexed me at first, and now I almost don't notice them. Which is not really a point in the show's favour, if it uses those catchphrases so much that they've effectively just become white noise.

One catchphrase is a little bit annoying but I'll get used to it.

It's a shame Rei's brother got kidnapped by mistake.

Well, to be fair, I watched a few episodes in a row so that may be why the catchphrases irritated me that much.
Didn't get the part where they say this was a mistake, regarding Rei's brother.
I may not have paid enough attention. :heh:

Still, I can't figure what's the purpose of the super-appmon chip.
Does DotGatchamon needs to be summon with it before he can fusion with another appmon ?

orion

2016-12-25, 20:52

Well, to be fair, I watched a few episodes in a row so that may be why the catchphrases irritated me that much.
Didn't get the part where they say this was a mistake, regarding Rei's brother.
I may not have paid enough attention. :heh:

Still, I can't figure what's the purpose of the super-appmon chip.
Does DotGatchamon needs to be summon with it before he can fusion with another appmon ?

Well, the person who solved the riddle was Rei (Leviathan was looking for someone who was smart enough to solve that puzzle.). The first person who went inside the portal was Rei's brother who ran ahead of Rei.

Guido

2016-12-25, 21:37

First of all, MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone.

On-Topic

It was just too good to be true going for episode tenth's calling title.

I liked how since the ninth episode the plot is getting better and better now that Rei has made his presence within the storyline.

He's badass and he's cruel, yet why I cannot condone his coldness and indifference towards Haru and the others I'm convinced he's not part of Leviathan working for the A.I.

He might be dark, but he could be opposing Leviathan under his own terms and means; an anti-hero trope of character of sorts.

The pacing for the battles was good, and from looks Rei seems more than meets the eye when it comes to Leviathan, the Seven Codes, and the Appli-arise. I mean he Appli-rise a fused AppMon form for Hackmon without any need to go through the standard procedure like Haru and company do for their Appmon partners.
I guess the key lies with those deactivated chips that Gatchmon mentioned and Rei used to Appli-arise Hackmon straightforwardly into the Appli-fusion Raidramon.

I have the impression that Rei's arc could end up becoming one of the best for this show, but I'll wait and see it episode by episode.

Dengar

2016-12-27, 06:46

I think dismissing people being rightly creeped out by you as just ad hominem attacks is a bit disingenuous, but that's not a topic for this thread.

I'm not sure why you would turn this into a personal matter. The argument didn't even seem outside your capability to contest. This whole "getting creeped out" just to somehow discredit my argument hurts it more than it helps.

I didn't realise you were talking about Cameramon. You mentioned Cameramon. I was like, "oh, I didn't look at it that way". If you left all these personal attacks out of it, nothing would be wrong and you wouldn't come across as some kind of dick.

Sageblink

2016-12-27, 07:49

Well well, that explained a lot : the last episode I saw was n°11. I started the 13th and realised I might have missed one where all my questions were answered.

Silly me. :heh:

Edit : so I'm settled on this. Eri is the most annoying with her dokka punchy. It just make no sense to begin with...
Astra make the effort to play with his catchphrase at least...

Dengar

2016-12-27, 07:51

I'm not sure myself what the benefit is of Super Applialize over just plain AppGattai. I mean you get the same appmon either way.

I mean, I can understand that to AppLink two Super appmon you need a workable Super Appmon Chip, but when it's just the one by itself, what's the benefit?

Sageblink

2016-12-27, 08:09

Dengar

2016-12-27, 08:21

That only explains why you want the chip, not why you need Super Applialize. The episode itself shows that you can just use AppLink as long as the support appmon has a functional Chip.

DMurphy

2016-12-27, 09:26

I'm not sure why you would turn this into a personal matter. The argument didn't even seem outside your capability to contest. This whole "getting creeped out" just to somehow discredit my argument hurts it more than it helps.

I didn't realise you were talking about Cameramon. You mentioned Cameramon. I was like, "oh, I didn't look at it that way". If you left all these personal attacks out of it, nothing would be wrong and you wouldn't come across as some kind of dick.

It's odd, because you're going "Hm. I don't know why you would say these things. It's so weird. What could you be driving at. You get nothing from this. So inexplicable. What could it be," like -- maybe, maybe, there's no conspiracy or secret agenda here, I'm just saying that you're creepy and coming over as obsessed because you're creepy and coming over as obsessed, because of a pattern of behaviours from you that has now been going on for weeks.

I know. Wild. Sometimes the simplest explanation really is the truth.

Dengar

2016-12-27, 09:33

You... Really should look in the mirror some time. Learn some introspection. I have done nothing to you at all in this thread. You're the one coming across as a crazy person for no reason.

I engage your arguments. You keep saying things about me... And occasionally engage my arguments.

Dengar

2016-12-28, 05:58

Interesting tidbit.

I've been playing Steins;Gate 0, and while playing that, the topic of "Technological Singularity" came up. The theory states that by the year 2045, Artificial Intelligence will be so advanced, that all further technological advancement will be performed by AI rather than humanity.

I wonder how many other hidden references to (computer) science and AI are hidden in this show?

Idealist 99

2016-12-28, 08:03

Yuujin seem pissed because everyone trying to take his Haru away from him.

Sageblink

2016-12-28, 19:04

That only explains why you want the chip, not why you need Super Applialize. The episode itself shows that you can just use AppLink as long as the support appmon has a functional Chip.

Maybe if you want to do a fusion like this : (Appmon+Appmon) X third Appmon ? :uhoh:

It's a bit blurry right now. It may also be that fusion is fragile and can be broken easier than a applialized Super-Appmon ?
(I don't even know what i'm talking about with all those strange words...)

chaos_animagic

2016-12-29, 00:45

Idealist 99

2016-12-30, 01:20

ep 13's Christmas disappearing...

doesn't really make all that sense unless they time skip over the actual 24 and 25th day...

cause all that disappear is "digital", I am 100% sure paper calendars are still there.

But I guess they need some way to make a Christmas special.

It make me believe that the entire population is stupid since they would skip over 24 & 25 December just because of a Digital calendar.
Its like The entire world is completely dependent on Digital apps that they can't be make their OWN DAM DECISION.

No wonder Leviathan gain so much power !

Well , atleast Haru made progress with Ai.
Hopefully , Ai won't turn out to be like Jerry from Digimon Tamers who get an Appmon that gets killed permanently.

Sageblink

2016-12-30, 06:56

It make me believe that the entire population is stupid.

I think you can stop there... Each time an Appmon attacks, i'm like "what the..."
The whole population is freaking out.
I know the target of the show are mostly kids, but I would be scared to death to get a smartphone growing up with a show like this.

Dengar

2016-12-30, 07:31

I'm going to chalk this one up to "Kids show, don't think too much about it" to be honest.

That said, the "noooooo guy" makes me chuckle for some reason.

Guido

2016-12-31, 16:30

Eris' puns were cute and funny.

Although I frowned upon the drop in animation quality for this episode, it kept throwing at the audience juicy developments on Rei.

Like I previously suspected, Rei's not a follower of Leviathan, however, that doesn't mean he's welcoming to have partners or forming alliances with others.

From his impatience and exasperation it's clear to tell that Rei will do anything to retrieve his kid brother from Leviathans' clutches, even if he has to go into a frenzy or resorting to unorthodox methods in order to crush Leviathan.

His arc has been the most interesting chuckling suspense bits here to there every moment.

Kurohane

2017-01-01, 16:45

Ah, Sakusimon was voiced by Tsubasa Yonaga. That's awesome!

I wonder that one line by him to Haru about Rei being his enemy is just going to be "villains just saying stuff to be dramatic" or not.

orion

2017-01-01, 17:12

Ah, Sakusimon was voiced by Tsubasa Yonaga. That's awesome!

I wonder that one line by him to Haru about Rei being his enemy is just going to be "villains just saying stuff to be dramatic" or not.

Well, the only thing they have to do is put Rei's brother in danger and Rei will be an enemy. :heh:

Hiro Hayase

2017-01-17, 06:23

There is a moral here where people should not take fortune telling, horoscopes, and blood type affinity too seriously. It's like cheap excuse for giving up on yourself.

Here's some ship tease... between Haru and Eri in the beginning. Eri and Astra got their super appmon chip and a seven code digimon chip.

I wonder when that ogre digimon will finally move?

Dengar

2017-01-17, 08:14

I'm fairly sure Haru is supposed to get shipped with Ai-chan.

Kurohane

2017-01-17, 11:03

I'm fairly sure Haru is supposed to get shipped with Ai-chan.

Seriously, I doubt a pair will become official in this series. Haven't had one since 02.

DMurphy

2017-01-17, 14:36

Even in the original, the most popular ship was tied between TaixSora or YamatoxSora, and both were teased. Seriously, I doubt a pair will become official in this series, since it was only in 02 we had official pairs, and that was due to the director going behind everyone's backs.

... Where do people get these ideas.

For clarification: We know for a fact that both Kakudou, the series' co-creator, and Hiromu Seki, the other co-creator and the producer of Toei Animation, knew about the pairings in Adventure and planned the 01 ones from the beginning of 01, and the 02 ones from the beginning of 02. They've been pretty clear about that. Some of the individual episode writers weren't told, because it wasn't relevant to their episodes, but that's it -- and there's no way a director could go 'behind everyone's backs,' because episodes have to be scripted, edited, approved, storyboarded, animated, edited again, checked, approved before they go to release. It would simply be impossible. Think.

Kurohane

2017-01-17, 16:40

... Where do people get these ideas.

For clarification: We know for a fact that both Kakudou, the series' co-creator, and Hiromu Seki, the other co-creator and the producer of Toei Animation, knew about the pairings in Adventure and planned the 01 ones from the beginning of 01, and the 02 ones from the beginning of 02. They've been pretty clear about that. Some of the individual episode writers weren't told, because it wasn't relevant to their episodes, but that's it -- and there's no way a director could go 'behind everyone's backs,' because episodes have to be scripted, edited, approved, storyboarded, animated, edited again, checked, approved before they go to release. It would simply be impossible. Think.

Okay, okay, geez. Did I offend you in any way to elicit such as response?

I admit I used hearsay, and that was my miss. I edited my post.

DMurphy

2017-01-17, 17:40

Sorry if I was a bit sharp with you. Generally speaking, misinformation grates on me quite badly, because what inevitably happens is someone says something untrue, someone else then repeats that and either embellishes or condenses it somewhat, altering the meaning again, and then someone else repeats it, and you end up with a situation where you get this kind of received knowledge being treated as fact.

Which is a problem we've already seen happen with Appmon -- not on this subject, but on the subject of its intended fidelity to the franchise as a whole: Someone mistranslated a line from an interview, and then other people repeated it sans context but with embellishment, and then that eventually led to it a whole bunch of people taking it as read that the creators said "we're only calling this Digimon for the money," when what they had actually said is "we're trying to return to the basics and strip away the trappings of the franchise," and had in the same breath rhapsodised on how much inspiration they had taken from Adventure, while next to them one of Adventure's co-creators had talked about their involvement with Appmon.

(It's also a problem we see a lot with discussion surrounding Adventure, and especially regarding shipping.)

It's one of the reasons why I spend an eerily large amount of time on this forum reminding people that they need to scrutinise the difference between what they know and what they believe -- because misinformation can spread like wildfire, especially when access to primary sources is somewhat gated by the existence of a language barrier.

Diluc

2017-01-17, 21:39

Idealist 99

2017-01-18, 11:39

I am never fan for MC get best girl but for this case I will ship Eri x Haru and Ai x Rei. In Digimon history MC often never end up with the best girl, the best girl either taken by rival (YamatoxSora, NenexKiriha) or taken by another guy ( Ruki x Riou).
Haru x Ai is too flat out, pair him with Eri will give dynamic, the optimist Ai should be good paired with Gloomy Rei.

You forgot Davis and Kari.
The poor guy even had a crush but didn't stood a chance against TK and suffer a rejection in the Drama CD.

Well, I think the series might already picked Ai for Haru.
Specially since Haru seem similar to Takuto who ended up with Jeri instate of Rika.

Seriously, I doubt a pair will become official in this series. Haven't had one since 02.

You forgot Taiki and Akari !

Kurohane

2017-01-18, 11:46

You forgot Taiki and Akari !

I didn't because they never became official.

Dengar

2017-01-23, 03:38

So... Timemon is basically The World?

AntonKutovoi

2017-01-23, 05:29

I kinda expected Timemon to say "Super Appmon God" or "Supper Appmon Blue", instead of "Ultimate Appmon" :heh:

Bgunit

2017-02-14, 11:11

Say guys on wikimon it says there are 80 standard appmon so here's my theory there will be 40 super grade (minus sukasimon) 20 ultimate grade (minus damedamon) and 10 god grade and maybe the god grade appmon can fuse to to create 5 super god grades if there are no more standard grade appmon to be introduced.

Dengar

2017-02-14, 13:03

Yeah that's not really how it works. After all, one Super grade appmon can have many different possible combinations of Standard grade appmon. For example, in the anime we've seen that CAmera...mon and Shootmon make Scopemon. But Rocketmon and Shootmon also combine to make Scopemon.

Dengar

2017-02-14, 18:38

Okay so sorry for the double post, but I've been doing some google searching and found something interesting.

https://books.google.nl/books/about/The_Minerva_Virus.html?id=R3IwAAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

Read the book's synopsis and see if it makes some bells ring.
I get this feeling that the writers of this show may be familiar with this story.

Kurohane

2017-02-14, 18:55

Sounds a lot like D-reaper, which in turn sounds like what's going on here.

Idealist 99

2017-02-16, 06:31

By the way , I believe that Digimon and Appmon are different digital life-form.
They does not any similarity except having "Mon" at the end of their name and the shows title having Digimon Universe in the title.

LAboy 456

2017-03-17, 06:06

New visual key:

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/appmon/images/news/2017031701.jpg

LAboy 456

2017-03-20, 08:14

Can't wait to see Yuujin finally getting some character development in the next phase of the series...

LostSome

2017-03-31, 17:57

About Rei's brother, he's probably...
Yuujin ?
At least, I think it makes sense.:heh:

DMurphy

2017-03-31, 21:56

Quite possibly. I'm still certain that Yuujin is the man-in-black-with-an-Appli-Driver who's working with/for Leviathan.'

alex_drian

2017-04-01, 04:33

mmm Ai and Watson maybe will get Appmon? they stand out compared to background characters

Diluc

2017-04-03, 09:41

Second Op is out and it is truly fantastic.
There are several future leak, i am not going to say what. Just see the opening yourself.

Dengar

2017-04-04, 02:45

Don't worry, I already had all of that stuff spoiled to me by people who can't resist posting promotional material everywhere I go.

LAboy 456

2017-04-10, 05:53

Offmon is so cute... :)

orion

2017-04-10, 22:56

And...in ep. 27, Yuujin appears, torpedoing any Haru x Eri ship in sight. Go Yuujin, protect your man! :heh:

Dengar

2017-04-11, 01:28

Great, now even the writers are showing their love of underage yaoi. >_< This is so frustrating.

Diluc

2017-04-11, 05:19

No worry guys we have been through this before, remember?
Remember Taichi and Yamato errr wait that were friendship, remember Daisuke and Ken waitaminute that were friendship too or Takuya and Koji ehh silly me they were camaderie or Marcus and Thomas.....nevermind they were just friend oh right i know!!! Taiki and Kiriha hahahahaha how could i forgotten them.......aren't them were frenemy...
Alright i give up:uhoh: but let's think positive here because this is kid show and Haru has confirmed crush to Ai so this yaoi shipping definitely will not happen.
Plus i am sure we will see Yuujin defect from team soon, his join to team very suspicious.

orion

2017-04-11, 19:31

orion

2017-04-17, 23:16

Great, now even the writers are showing their love of underage yaoi. >_< This is so frustrating.

Cheer up! Not only is Yuujin prob powering Offmon with his life force. he may not even be human. Does Yuujin dream of electric sheep? :heh:

Dengar

2017-04-23, 03:05

orion

2017-05-04, 20:52

Why do kids shows HAVE to have that one episode where the moral of the story seems to be "it's ok to treat children like shit as long as they have a younger, cuter sibling, and the older one just has to suck it up"? I don't think that's a good message to send at all.

Gatchmon wasn't being treated like sh*t. He was jealous that Offmon was getting all the attention because he's the youngest. Gatchmon is the older sib of the team and has to act like one. Granted, Haru should pay equal attention. Gatchmon has to realize that cute, cuddly and slightly clumsy will win the day on most occasions. :heh:

Offmon has that cute, cuddly appearance to him, even has baggy clothes. He's designed to encourage people to care for him.

Dengar

2017-05-06, 06:30

Gatchmon wasn't being treated like sh*t. He was jealous that Offmon was getting all the attention because he's the youngest. Gatchmon is the older sib of the team and has to act like one. Granted, Haru should pay equal attention. Gatchmon has to realize that cute, cuddly and slightly clumsy will win the day on most occasions. :heh:

Offmon has that cute, cuddly appearance to him, even has baggy clothes. He's designed to encourage people to care for him.

Thank you for demonstrating the shitty behavior I'm talking about.

orion

2017-05-06, 09:52

Thank you for demonstrating the shitty behavior I'm talking about.

You're welcome. This behavior is common when new/cute kids are in families. The older sibling has to adjust as they are no longer the center of the universe. Parents have to remember to spend equal time. Gatchmon just overreacted.

Dengar

2017-05-06, 10:41

...No he didn't. Well, the running away part might be overdoing it, but they did actually treat him like shit.

...And he's not even a younger fucking sibling. He's just another guy's buddy Appmon. He's treating his own Appmon like shit because his friend's looks cuter. How is that not shitty?

This isn't about "attention", this is about being treated like shit. Offmon doesn't even need special attention, given how much stronger he is than everyone else already.

There's no way you can justify stealing someone else's food to give it to another guy. Or show concern for someone who's absolutely fine while completely ignoring the guy who almost got hurt. There wasn't even a fucking thank you for helping Offmon, just a "don't be mean to Offmon". It's not Gatchmon's fucking fault that Offmon cries if you so much as fucking look at him.

orion

2017-05-06, 12:07

Dengar

2017-05-06, 12:13

"It was a snack"... Yes, it was, and it was his. You seem to make very light of being a dick and taking other people's stuff. It doesn't matter if it's "just a snack", you don't touch other people's stuff without their consent. Offmon giving it back to him wouldn't change the fact that Haru was a dick.

DMurphy

2017-05-07, 11:09

I recognise that 'sharing is good!' is a common theme in children's fiction, and -- yeah, sharing is good, but I also wish that 'respect other people's boundaries and personal property, nobody is obliged to share their things with you if they don't want to' was a theme that showed up more.

Honestly, we could use more children's fiction that stresses the idea that people have a right to say no, and that their right to say no is important and should be respected.

On a related note, I'm not sure 'people who are cuter than you will always take priority' is the best message to give to children.

orion

2017-05-07, 22:10

<snip>

On a related note, I'm not sure 'people who are cuter than you will always take priority' is the best message to give to children.

It may not be the best message, but sometimes reality can be painful.

Younger sibs will get more attention because they are more needy. Offmon even has a cute berserker side. :heh:

DMurphy

2017-05-08, 07:19

It may not be the best message, but sometimes reality can be painful.

Younger sibs will get more attention because they are more needy. Offmon even has a cute berserker side. :heh:

Ah, yes, because the role of children's fiction has always been to communicate the crushing, painful inequality of the world to its target audience -- a target audience which for Appmon, is approximately 2-6 years old.

Regardless, 'you don't have the right to say no to people, and you need to give up your stuff to other people' is, and has always been, a poor message.

orion

2017-05-08, 19:36

Ah, yes, because the role of children's fiction has always been to communicate the crushing, painful inequality of the world to its target audience -- a target audience which for Appmon, is approximately 2-6 years old.

Regardless, 'you don't have the right to say no to people, and you need to give up your stuff to other people' is, and has always been, a poor message.

I think the target audience is a lot older due to the themes being shown. So far....we've had child abduction, and attempted murder, running away from home. I'd bet more 10+.

The game is all ages.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/game/43750/digimon-universe-appli-monsters-nintendo-3ds

DMurphy

2017-05-08, 19:50

I think the target audience is a lot older due to the themes being shown. So far....we've had child abduction, and attempted murder, running away from home. I'd bet more 10+.

The game is all ages.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/game/43750/digimon-universe-appli-monsters-nintendo-3ds

All of which are themes that are only considered ~taboo territory~ for children's television in the US and a few other countries. In Japan, or hell, even in the UK, those would not be considered remarkable fare for small children's television.

Also, age ratings are meant to indicate whether something's content is appropriate for specific age groups: It being 'all ages' translates to 'small children can safely enjoy this without parental supervision.' Think a G rating.

But, even if it was aimed at the 10+ age group -- it's not, but even if it was -- that still wouldn't be an appropriate moral message for it.

orion

2017-05-08, 20:17

All of which are themes that are only considered ~taboo territory~ for children's television in the US and a few other countries. In Japan, or hell, even in the UK, those would not be considered remarkable fare for small children's television.

Also, age ratings are meant to indicate whether something's content is appropriate for specific age groups: It being 'all ages' translates to 'small children can safely enjoy this without parental supervision.' Think a G rating.

But, even if it was aimed at the 10+ age group -- it's not, but even if it was -- that still wouldn't be an appropriate moral message for it.

You're not going to find a 2 yo or 6 yo watching this at 7 AM (airing time for this show in Japan). This is not for their age group imo. This title is aimed for an older age group. The game is all ages, but at the same time a 2 yo won't be playing this either.

DMurphy

2017-05-08, 21:13

You're not going to find a 2 yo or 6 yo watching this at 7 AM (airing time for this show in Japan). This is not for their age group imo. This title is aimed for an older age group. The game is all ages, but at the same time a 2 yo won't be playing this either.

Actually, yeah, you would. 7am is literally the timeslot that the 2-6 demographic shows are in.

Like, literally, that's the same time as the Nichi Asa Kids timeslot, the block of programs that has, for the last thirteen years, been one of the most successful children's programming blocks in Japan, run by the same channel, with shows that start at about 2-6 age range (which air at 7am or so) and end at about 6-10 age (which usually air at 8am).

Dengar

2017-05-09, 12:33

I find the idea that somebody thinks that 7 AM is in fact, not a time slot for very young kids, quite hilarious. It's like you don't even know how young kids work.

orion

2017-05-10, 20:57

I find the idea that somebody thinks that 7 AM is in fact, not a time slot for very young kids, quite hilarious. It's like you don't even know how young kids work.

I wouldn't have my 2 yr old or 6 yo watching stuff like this at 7 AM on a Sunday. They would still be asleep or waking up for church.

Dengar

2017-05-11, 11:24

I don't know any kids who are still asleep at 7 AM.

Kurohane

2017-07-21, 17:56

The fight between Globemon and Charismon was epic!

BassGSnewtype

2017-07-22, 14:24

Agreed, makes you wonder where they'll go from here.

Dengar

2017-07-23, 05:53

Well, we still have an evolution stage to go. I'm assuming they will start to unlock that power fairly soon. Perhaps from an AppFusion with the Ultimate Four?

videoman190

2017-07-23, 18:25

Agumon a Digimon will appear in Appmon!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-07-22/agumon-to-appear-in-digimon-universe-appli-monsters-anime/.119160

DMurphy

2017-07-23, 19:23

Agumon a Digimon will appear in Appmon!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-07-22/agumon-to-appear-in-digimon-universe-appli-monsters-anime/.119160

As I recall, I predicted months ago that regular-continuity Digimon would show up sooner or later, although I thought it'd have happened way earlier than this. I definitely recall a few people throwing wobblies at me over that.

Kurohane

2017-07-23, 19:58

And Chika Sakamoto will return to voice him, good. Because it's not Agumon without her.

Dengar

2017-07-24, 16:29

As I recall, I predicted months ago that regular-continuity Digimon would show up sooner or later, although I thought it'd have happened way earlier than this. I definitely recall a few people throwing wobblies at me over that.

I'm fairly sure people just disagreed with you and did not think it was very likely to happen.

DMurphy

2017-07-25, 12:15

I'm fairly sure people just disagreed with you and did not think it was very likely to happen.

If it makes you feel better to think that, bro.

Dengar

2017-08-09, 07:53

Judging from the next episode preview, it's going to be a crossover cameo.

Diluc

2017-08-09, 22:32

They said this is new brand spin off of Digimon franchse but reintroducing Agumon is same all over mean Appli Universe is continuation of main flagship spin off.

Dengar

2017-08-20, 15:22

The episode contradicts what you say though. Agumon is explicitly a videogame character from an in-universe videogame, on the same level as the other game characters that appeared that episode. It really was only a cameo. It was the new making a homage to the old.

Kurohane

2017-08-20, 18:35

This was a funny episode with a temple being based off a famous American prison.

Also setting up what we've all had questions about since the end of the very first episode: what's up with Yuujin?

DMurphy

2017-08-20, 21:03

They said this is new brand spin off of Digimon franchse but reintroducing Agumon is same all over mean Appli Universe is continuation of main flagship spin off.

Yeah. I know. I did point out months ago that this was a Digimon series, not some brand new non-Digimon things, several times. I remember, a few people threw massive, screaming tantrums over it. Some people still are.

orion

2017-08-20, 22:01

This was a funny episode with a temple being based off a famous American prison.

Also setting up what we've all had questions about since the end of the very first episode: what's up with Yuujin?

My bet he's another AI programmed to protect Haru since his granddad was murdered by Leviathan. Once Leviathan is defeated Yuujin will lose his purpose for existence which causes him to worry.

Kurohane

2017-08-29, 10:46

Has Yuujin always been this way or is the one here now a replacement due to unfortunate circumstances? I'm curious how they'll handle it.

Edit: Also, I've thought about this before, but didn't see a good point to voice it until now. If the Applidrive Duo is the only one Yuujin has, then who was the shadow that used the original to App-gatai Scopemon way back before?

Edit 2: The reveal itself wasn't such a shock, but what happened those last few minutes, gosh dang! Bootmon getting cut down like that was freaking savage! Haru is going to be reeling from this one for a while! But I'm afraid the twists will just keep on coming without pause.

orion

2017-08-29, 12:29

But that took a lot of preparation and future predicting for Yuujin to be inserted there since age 5. Leviathan would have to have known in advance that Medusa was going to target Haru. Maybe he was replaced with or subjugated by the current AI when he got captured by Leviathan.

Kurohane

2017-08-29, 12:40

orion

2017-08-29, 12:59

Episode 1 disproves that since he's always had those red eyes.

It's interesting because this twist in no way explains everything. I still don't think the shadow Appli Driver during Scopemon and Warudamon was him.

No, I meant the AI being reprogrammed by inserting a dominant AI into the system (The human version would be brainwashed). The body stays the same. The red behind the pupil was always there. It's how he was built.

Kurohane

2017-08-29, 13:26

With red glowing eyes being Leviathan's distinguishing trait, it's safe to say Yuujin was always one of Leviathan's machination. He may not have been sent out because of Haru, but something that was later added on after they came into contact.

DMurphy

2017-08-29, 14:02

Leviathan does have a reason to want to keep tabs on Haru even before he gets an AppliDriver, too, since Haru's grandfather is its and Minerva's creator.

Dengar

2017-08-30, 05:38

So... I thought I was prepared for this episode, but uhhh, I was not. That was kind of heartwrenching.

orion

2017-08-30, 21:38

I'm going to have faith in Yuujin. All those years of friendship can't be abolished by a program switch. Right?

Diluc

2017-08-30, 23:23

I'm going to have faith in Yuujin. All those years of friendship can't be abolished by a program switch. Right?

Silly, obviously that would happen.
Unless they want to take different approach since Digimon renowned to be darker compared other children anime show.

Kurohane

2017-09-07, 22:19

I believe Yuujin is fully aware of his actions. His motives may be more complex than at first glance. He truly believes Haru is the strongest main character. So that Haru fulfills his role, he'll willingly be an obstacle to help him grow stronger.

Edit: Wow, I haven't seen such mind break in a digimon series since Tamers.

I still have my suspicions that later it will show Yuujin really has grown beyond his programming; it's such a common thing. All the interactions with Offmon won't become a waste too.

Dengar

2017-09-10, 11:29

Well I was always wondering. If he was supposed to be the mole since the beginning, what's he doing with an Appli Drive in the first place?

Sageblink

2017-09-10, 11:39

Well I was always wondering. If he was supposed to be the mole since the beginning, what's he doing with an Appli Drive in the first place?

Double agent for Minerva I guess ?
I would be dissappointing if he's just acting that way to motivate the kids to go Kami-mode. Now that Levianthan got a body, I can be defeated. If that was the plan all along, I could have been done without such drama. But again, that's a TV show...

Kurohane

2017-09-10, 13:36

This episode:
https://s25.postimg.org/qfidqmchb/People.png

Okay, so this how they'll turn into chips-

https://s25.postimg.org/v2ofsdzu7/Grinder.png

Indeed, what's that?

https://s25.postimg.org/uefl9g14f/image.png

What the-?!

https://s25.postimg.org/59okw11nz/WTF.png

WHAT THE FUCK?!

And we've hit full Cerebrus Syndrome...

BassGSnewtype

2017-09-10, 15:14

Double agent for Minerva I guess ?
I would be dissappointing if he's just acting that way to motivate the kids to go Kami-mode. Now that Levianthan got a body, I can be defeated. If that was the plan all along, I could have been done without such drama. But again, that's a TV show...

Maybe this is some kind of wager between Leviathan and Minerva, would humanity be happier as data or would there be some who could rise up to oppose the idea, why else would a Leviathan mole have an upgraded Applidrive from the start?
It's all just a big wager between to AIs.

Dengar

2017-09-10, 15:30

Maybe Yuujin was specifically designed to appear as a suitable Appli Driver and therefore fool Minerva into providing an Appli Drive?

Of course, Minerva might have known about this in advance and still provided one as part of her own batman gambit.

Kurohane

2017-09-10, 19:45

What may be happening to Yuujin now may actually reflect Leviathan's own origins. "Yuujin" is becoming his own entity independent of YJ14 and trying to separate. If so, that would be some serious irony.

Eri strikes the Gainax pose!

BassGSnewtype

2017-09-23, 00:47

Well, that's one way to fix a Data rely, but.....what happens after...I won't say anymore.

orion

2017-09-23, 10:22

Dengar

2017-09-25, 01:25

I wouldn't call that "evil". The world isn't all black and white like that.

Kurohane

2017-09-27, 21:38

The last few minutes of the episode was hype! Be My Light really gets the adrenaline rushing. Looking forward to the finale!

BassGSnewtype

2017-10-02, 12:46

Jeez what an ending (the battle was awesome too) and the way they set it up it feels like they left it open for a sequel (let's hope they don't screw that up if they do.)

Wandering Soul

2017-10-02, 17:37

That was a more than satisfying conclusion (excluding that last minute Minerva power up). App Monsters was originally a nice way to fill the gaps between Tri episodes, but I actually ended up enjoying it more than I'm enjoying Tri at the moment.

App Monsters isn't my favorite season (that title still goes to Tamers), but despite it's flaws (pacing issues, lackluster villains, etc) it is one of the Digimon series that I have a more favorable impression of. Out of the 8 series, it would probably be around 4th place.

I'm actually surprised that a digimon season stuck with one major villain to the very end. No reveal that there is actually a bigger and stronger antagonist, the series set up Leviathan as the main villain at the start and they stuck with that until the end.

BassGSnewtype

2017-10-04, 11:15

Didn't they tote Bagramon as the main villain of Xros Wars until the end?
And end i say the end I don't include Young Hunters I consider that a separate story in its own right.

Wandering Soul

2017-10-04, 15:32

Didn't they tote Bagramon as the main villain of Xros Wars until the end?
And end i say the end I don't include Young Hunters I consider that a separate story in its own right.
I actually forgot about that.

Dengar

2017-10-13, 16:42

I enjoyed the show a lot. I went in without any expectations whatsoever (either good or bad) and seem to have gotten rewarded for it. I will acknowledge some pacing issues. And some plot issues maybe should not have been foreshadowed so dang early (looking at you, Yuujin), but overall I really enjoyed the show.

orion

2017-10-13, 19:23

Dengar

2017-10-15, 05:19

See, foreshadowing is nice, but to foreshadow events that aren't going to be relevant until episode 40 (and to repeatedly keep foreshadowing this) makes me kinda impatient.

Guido

2017-10-15, 20:53

I slacked off with this show at the beginning of the current year and lost track until finding out that it finished about two weeks ago. Still, I remain undeterred to continue giving coverage to the episodes from where I left. Thankfully, since I did not bother to read all the comments in this thread I saved myself from being spoiled. However, to be thoughtful for the newbies that recently had found and had picked this show I'll be giving my following reviews inside spoiler tags. In addition, to avoid cluttering the thread with too many posts done by myself I'll put three episode reviews per post.

After Rei returned the stolen App codes to Haru and company, the kids daily lives returned to normal in time for Christmas.

After watching this episode, it made to reflect how this current society and generation are so much intertwined with the use of app media and technology in our daily lives that if it's gone, hypothetically speaking, the nations too reliant on technology would be thrown into a deep chaos.

BTW, Ai finally met Gatchmon, and it was such a nice and personal reunion seeing Haru introducing Gatchmon to Ai, because the Appmon sobbed with tears of frustration after hearing Ai's prayer for Christmas to be returned back.

Then, the fight against Calendarmon became too much beating around the bush, since the Appmon couldn't do jack against the mighty power of DoGatchmon, which Haru super apprealized from the DoGatchmon chip.

Lastly, the last two minutes at the end of this episode not only foreshadowed the taste of things to come in a far future but helped to move plot forward.

In this episode, Ai has become an unofficial member of the AppliDrivers, or a.k.a Chosen Children, joining in their activities. All four kids wrote wish letters for New Year, and everyone became inspired once learning Haru's letter to wish for all to defeat together Leviathan. Nonetheless, the jolly mood was interrupted when learning from Watson-kun that all electronic locks and appliances were throwing the city into chaos due to not opening unless solving a puzzle.

Gatchmon deduced the culprit to be the appmon known as Puzzlemon, and all three Applidrivers went after its trail. After enduring Puzzlemon's tiring puzzles, all three kids apprealized their Appmon into their Super Grade forms, and each of them made quick work of Puzzlemons' separate parts.

Points to notice:
1. Puzzlemon and Messemon (the first appmon Haru & Gatchmon defeated way back to episode one) have met and befriended each other before, but they aren't relatives.

2. Hackmon asked Rei if it was a good idea returning the stolen AppCodes to Haru and company to which he replied that those kids can handle at finding the rest of the 7 Codes. Right now, Rei was intrigued as to why Mienumon salvaged Sasukimon's chip, and what it is trying to do for Leviathan.

3. Every where around the city buildings and light screens bear Leviathan's logo on them, and the HQ's are actually run by Mienumon who has greeted another of her comrades coming to visit, the oni-like Coachmon.