View Full Version : Seichou Cheat de Nandemo Dekiruyou ni Natta ga, Mushoku dake wa Yamerarenaiyoudesu
Original Title : 成長チートでなんでもできるようになったが、無職だけは辞められないようです (Seichou Cheat de Nandemo Dekiruyou ni Natta ga, Mushoku dake wa Yamerarenaiyoudesu) <I’ve Became Able to Do Anything with My Growth Cheat, but I Can’t Seem to Get out of Being Jobless>
Author : Tokino Yousuke
Status : 151 WN chapters
Length : 0.5 Million Japanese Characters
Webnovel : Syosetsu (http://ncode.syosetu.com/n9863da/)
Translation : NU (http://www.novelupdates.com/series/ive-became-able-to-do-anything-with-my-growth-cheat-but-i-cant-seem-to-get-out-of-being-jobless/)
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I, Ichinosuke, failed to get a job for 100 consecutive times. Furthermore, my record is still being updated as unemployed.
On my way to a job interview, I was involved in an accident with a truck and tragically passed away.
And then, a Goddess bestowed upon me the ability to grow at a speed 400 times faster than normal, before sending me to a game-like otherworld.
However, knowing that I would not become stronger even if I continued growing while jobless, I aimed to get a job, but I found out that it was my terrible fate to remain jobless.
As my Growth Cheat and Jobless Cheat existed side-by-side in this otherworld, an adventure record, no doubt certified by the job-placement agency as a harmful book, begins here.
1. Is the MC OP?
Very
2. Is this a harem?
Yes
3. Is there snusnu in this novel?
True
Since this got LN, thread is made
Super yandere sister is the best~
This got a LN? It wasn't so great, well the sister was the best, that's true. But it was a bit too stupid sometimes.
Oh? Sasuga Hentaiga, always introducing some new novel to us~.
By the way, is the super yandere sister in that illustration? Is she the sister of the MC? Give us more juice Tora-kun, like some characters' descriptions. :cool:
Ruki0089
2016-09-17, 03:25
Again? Ero Tora can you find something that more dark and filled with hatred and revenge?
cabman11
2016-09-17, 03:41
Ophis isn't that picture from one of those ads I keep seeing on narou?
Ophis isn't that picture from one of those ads I keep seeing on narou?
Dunno? It's been a really long time since I last used narou.
The character from my avatar is called Mille, she's from an online game called Kanpani Girls.
^^^^^Yup~ Maken Harem is better than this~
Well even if it's fastfood, it has best sister and got published so good enough~
^^^^Sister will only come later in the story
Sasuke and Kaito read this too it seems, let's wait for his wimmenz list lol~
^^^I like dark, but hate revenge
Revenge is stupid and angsty
^^^I like dark, but hate revenge
Revenge is stupid and angsty
I mostly agree with you and most revenge stories turn out to be stupid. Well there is the one nice though.
Well it's about time I caught up to this one, once I catch up I will report my impression of it.
Edti: The problem of this work is, that while even usually not being too great (but good enough to enjoy anyway) it keeps throwing completely stupid episodes in between. I know that it is supposed to be comedial, but it is not even funny and is just stupid (if the rest was great this might make a good contrast, but the rest is normal at best)...
Btw. why is Yamerarenaiyoudesu without spaces?
medassin
2016-09-17, 06:05
i till read this. Very interesting.
^^Coz yamerarenaiyoudesu is read at once
Margaret is funny yo~ lol :heh:
Btw the translation already reached 54 ch
^ Well the chapters in this one are short. If it was Yaritsukai the trasnlation would have yet to pass the few chapters in the beginning where Shuuya is alone.
There is the baka-duo and now the baka-cat...
What is the deal with the sister? Is she a demon lord or something? Or maybe a goddess of yandere? And why she is so attached to MC in the first place?
Kaito Yamakage
2016-09-17, 10:45
This would have been better without distractions https://www.youtube.com/embed/bbUqEPUZ-ds pretty much sums up what happens for half the chapters. All those pointless side characters, it pretty much killed itself.
^Nooo! Princess Zelda was raped! :heh:
Those side characters are funny though~
^^She is maoubest girl
This would have been better without distractions https://www.youtube.com/embed/bbUqEPUZ-ds pretty much sums up what happens for half the chapters. All those pointless side characters, it pretty much killed itself.
I can't but agree with this. The beginning is nice and the yandere-sister POV is nice too (or rather than POV it is more of storyline), but some of the sidetracking is fairly stupid (going to fight a dragon to get catwine, even the MC realizes this is stupid, all of the cat arc is just stupid anyway) and to make things worse there is the idiot-duo + brats that not only isn't really funny, but slows down the pace enough for anyone to notice that the "main" arc is sidetracking too.
Btw. the video is funny, anyone who have ever played any RPG must thing the same too.
darkofficer
2016-09-17, 11:29
who's the guy with the red hair ??
^That's dumb Joffrey lol~
^^^^
^^
Your sense of humor sucks :heh:
darkofficer
2016-09-17, 11:48
and who are the girls in his harem if i may ask
Caught up, well I get mostly the same impression as I had before.
His harem:
Wolf: calm swordfighter, brought up by deamon lord, slave, has strong loyalty to the MC (in short dog)
Half hobit: attracts monsters when in dark becausee of which she had it rought (impossible to turn off), slave
Japanese girl: strong htomishiri, when puts on a mask (not metaphor) is chyuunibyou. Because of one lazy goddess got a really useless job when moved to that world and the job was so high rank that nobody could change it, slave (well not MC's, but as if she was)
Homunculus: good in creating things. Has to get MP from MC&co because she can't produce them herself, interestingly enough, she isn't slave (well created by MC)
sister has yet to arrive and with her there is one knight girl that is after MC, but is 100% gonna get forbidden any approach to him by yandere imouto
Caught up, well I get mostly the same impression as I had before.
His harem:
Wolf: calm swordfighter, brought up by deamon lord, slave, has strong loyalty to the MC (in short dog)
Fox (half I think): attracts monsters when in dark becausee of which she had it rought (impossible to turn off), slave
Japanese girl: strong htomishiri, when puts on a mask (not metaphor) is chyuunibyou. Because of one lazy goddess got a really useless job when moved to that world and the job was so high rank that nobody could change it, slave (well not MC's, but as if she was)
Homunculus: good in creating things. Has to get MP from MC&co because she can't produce them herself, interestingly enough, she isn't slave (well created by MC)
sister has yet to arrive and with her there is one knight girl that is after MC, but is 100% gonna get forbidden any approach to him by yandere imouto
is the fox girl Carol who had the temptress job?
Geh, sorry my memory. Corrected.
medassin
2016-09-17, 21:41
so, has his imouto join harem :confused:
The One Above God
2016-09-18, 00:45
Haru looks too cutesy in the illustrations...a bit too different from the more cool beauty impression I got from reading.
^Yup~ MC thought Haru is older at first.
^^Reunion is close
^^^Update on harem members :
- Haru
- Carol
- Marina
- Fuyun
- Pionia
- Stella
- Mili
- Norn
- Kanon
^Yup~ MC thought Haru is older at first.
^^Reunion is close
^^^Update on harem members :
- Haru
- Carol
- Marina
- Fuyun
- Pionia
- Stella
- Mili
- Norn
- Kanon
Lol :heh: .
Lol :heh: .
GYAHAHAHAHAAHAHA :heh:
Though it wasn't me who said that first, but the homunculus Pionia~
When MC asked whether she's the 4th harem member
She said no, and it's Fuyun-sama instead :heh:
I rofl-ed then :p
Well, this is not as funny as Nagaikoto or Saratoga, but quite funny yo~
The latest be Rookanga boxing fight :eyespin:
^ Yeah, I know, I read that chapter too.
As for boxing, neta is good and all, but there should be some real content too...
^I know that you know~
New chapter~ Legal Loli Time~
Natsume01
2016-09-27, 16:03
@wuhugm: Can you write a description for every harem members (except Haru and Carol)?
A short one is okay. Just a few sentences.
And I agree, Miri is the best girl (imouto best chara).
The chapters are really short. Well, it makes it easier for the translator. He released quite a few chapters recently.
Please tell me we won't see the Idiot Couple too much.
^Fumu. They are not snusnued yet so can't say for sure they will be in the harem... But most likely.
- Marina
A teleported from Japan. 21 years old. Got joke cheat from the goddess so unable to maintain livelihood and fell to slavery. Bought by mysterious girl, Kanon.
- Kanon
Mysterious stall owner and fraudster. Marina was her slave but she entrusted her to MC for a reason.
- Mili
Best girl.
- Norn
A city guard who's the first human MC met. He saved her from almost being bandits plaything. Has a crush on MC but hides her feeling because of Haru. Later left the town with best girl to meet MC.
- Pionia
Loli goddess' homunculus.
Several goddesses might enter the harem too but I dunno...
Idiot Couple pops out in unimaginable places :heh:
obnuchious
2016-09-28, 01:13
Idiot Couple is a bundle of weeds . . . very hard to kill and always appearing in unsuspecting places, in which MC sometimes has to clean up after their mess
^Idiot Couple NTR-ed
New chapter
Mixed bathing with loli
- Marina
A teleported from Japan. 21 years old. Got joke cheat from the goddess so unable to maintain livelihood and fell to slavery. Bought by mysterious girl, Kanon.
How did she end up like this? Was it that the world is not just so goddess hated her for no reason, didn't let her choose the gifted cheat and mocked her by giving something useless, and even after that the girl was unlucky enough for not even managing to make it as a regular commoner ? Or was it her own fault for making a fool's choice while choosing her cheat and failing hard (despite of having startup capital from that hero guy) afterwards?
^
Hahaha~
Did you remember that MC got 2 cheats from 2 goddesses by mistake?
1 is the fat lady and the other is lazy goddess
Marina got her cheat from the lazy goddess, and once again she just haphazardly bestowed cheat
Her cheat is "magician" job... magician as in circus trickster lol :heh:
On top of that, very unlucky since the startup items have been pillaged, leaving nothing :p
She tried to survive as a performer but extremely shy too so failed and became a slave~
She wished to get a job that allows her to make many friends as she had none in the original world and the lazy goddess just randomly chose one the seemed that it might be it, and she became performer.The problem was, that she was shy as hell thus gaining nothing from the job and the job was for some reason really high class thus no priest was able to change it, leading to her becoming slave. After that she gains the second personality (self suggestion) when Kanon gives her a mask and tells her it is magical item etc (in reality just a mask, nothing special).
So it was completely goddess's fault by doing a genie's trick distorting her wish. Somehow not funny, the poor lonely girl just wanted to get socially adapted and instead fell to the very bottom of the social hierarchy (and being slave in that world is not easy).
Natsume01
2016-09-29, 14:54
@wuhugm: thanks for the info.
Who is Stella?
What do you mean by NTR-ed?
Lol, that lazy goddess should do a better job. Poor her, it's not easy to be a slave.
^A cat
I want Elize to be NTR-ed from Joffrey~ That idiot couple would then learn something hehe :D In the first place, why is a non-heroine appeared so big in the cover :p
Yea... Slave is being stained by various liquids...
Natsume01
2016-10-01, 05:17
^A cat? Why is it in the harem?
...
Who are the goddesses who may be in the harem?
Mixed bath with loli? The loli being Carol?
^ For about the same reason Fuyun (male horse) is. Hentaiga is basing it on the list of MC's harem Pionia made.
In reality Stela is something like catgirl, but heavily into the cat part. She can speak though.
Natsume01
2016-10-01, 05:48
^ What, a MALE horse?!
What kind of list is that?
Why is Pionia with the MC? She's a homonculus made by a Goddess, right?
^^^Yup, Carol so bold~
^^More like girlcat lol~
^The knowledge or was it lazy goddess gave it to him to manage his hikki world :heh:
They often visited his world, so probably enter the harem later?
That list Pionia came up with when he brought many girls into the hikki world
Natsume01
2016-10-01, 10:37
^ Hikki Wolrld? What's that?
Oh some goddesses in the harem. How many of them visit him? The 'orc' goddess too?
The translator released two chapters. So it was this horse. He just named it.
^Ah ah~ Best girl Fuyun, along with Centaur~
When the Jobless level reached 80, it unlocks a new skill, Hikki World, literally. Well, it's a sub-space that you can alter as you wish with mana. At first it's connected to God Realm which caused several goddess to visit it. Not orc goddess.
Natsume01
2016-10-01, 12:26
^ it's not even female right?
Oh, what's with that skill. How many goddesses are there in that world? Was it 6?
^7
New chapter~
Bathing with loli got interrupted... Goddamnit...
Yeah, confession scene got interrupted.
And because of that the MC has decided to boil himself up. Cause, you know, the water in the hole is 99% not cooled as he cooled only the water directly in the pool.
^Hothothot!
Series ended. MC dead.
Lol... He snusnued his Wolf right off the bat..
^Indeed :heh:
New chapter!
Wuii~ Reunion with yandere sister! Hell yeah :D
Ruki0089
2016-10-27, 22:50
Yandere... Imouto....~
RUN~!
Natsume01
2016-10-30, 16:22
^^ How did that go?
travelingbum
2016-10-30, 16:38
nothing happened yet.
since it's just Haru meeting the 2 and unknown if little sister is currently with them.
^We knew Millie traveled with the 2 of them
And since 5 people are needed for the King's Tournament, it will be : Hal, Marina, Norn, Canon, and Millie
travelingbum
2016-11-01, 01:12
^haha new raw came out
she had already left 30min before she arrived lolnow to wonder if he will stay long enough.
^30 Minutes bruh
Millie is heading to where her bro at.
Wish for reunion.
travelingbum
2016-11-01, 03:55
would 417 become part of the harem though.... lol
^If we're using the numerical reading like 893=Yakuza
417 new name would be Shiina
But her previous master was Daijirou, right?
Maybe he already enjoyed her to his heart's content? :heh:
There you go, Shiina
And everyone before named her Shiina too lol :heh:
Will it be a near miss with sister?
darkofficer
2016-11-14, 13:06
somehow i feel bad for the hero all of those girls but with heavy restrictions
somehow i feel bad for the hero all of those girls but with heavy restrictions
The most pitiful is that loli...
Got xxx-ed by bandits for days until the hero saved her :( ugh...
ooPeaToo
2016-12-15, 09:17
Cover volume 2 :D
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81CoDnjXgRL.jpg
Ruki0089
2016-12-15, 09:24
Did he fu** them?! Yes?!
^^Oh my~ That's lewd~ To the 1st page~
^Yes
Ruki0089
2016-12-15, 09:29
When he fu** his girls for the first time?
The Green One
2016-12-15, 09:54
Read it and find out.
That purple haired girl has gotten me interested... Also curious as to why the wolf girl has heart eyes...
darkofficer
2016-12-15, 13:08
that are haru and carol right ?
^Ye, exactly~
Haru is supposed to be this cool woman, but why she looks like cute underage girl? :heh:
^ Look where her hand is and you might imagine what she was doing with MC only a few moments ago. So it's only understandable that she is doing such a dull/chilldish face. Koborechatta, tehe
Except for that she doesen't really look so childish.
Poor hero.. dt.. you're mc best bro...
The Green One
2016-12-16, 00:47
^Ye, exactly~
Haru is supposed to be this cool woman, but why she looks like cute underage girl? :heh:
A cool and mature wolf in public, and a tender and fawning puppy desiring her Master's love and attention in private.
Natsume01
2016-12-28, 14:50
What happened to the author? There wasn't a lot of releases these past months.
If only Miri didn't forbid Norn and Kanon to speak about her, Norn could've told them(Haru and the others) that Ichino's little sister is here and is searching for him. So close~
Well, there's a chance Miri and Ichino will meet in that 'dungeon'.
^Haihai~ New chapter boi~
Finally MC going to fully utilize his growth and jobless cheats.
And since he gonna stay in that island for 2 days, big chance for reunion with sister~
Natsume01
2016-12-31, 05:53
^Haihai~~ Just read it~ The chapter was way too short for all the wait but I'm grateful.
Ah finally! Really with his Cheat Growth in 48h he'll have 2 years worth of experience. Too bad the monster there are weak (that's what they said before right? Unless he underestimated the power of the Monkeys.)
Well yeah, let's hope he'll meet her. He should since without her he can save Shiina.
As for the LN:
Volume 1 has a chapter in Haru's POV.
Volume 2 will have one with Caro's POV.
Volume 3 will be an original story.
Somethindarker
2017-01-04, 17:11
I just picked this story up for the hell of it cuz my cousin told me there's rumors of a manga or anime adaptation being announced soon or something. Gotta say this line right here;
“Oops, my bad … I ended up falling asleep. I am a Goddess.”
made me laugh out loud. Like somehow falling asleep while transferring someone to another world is okay because you're a goddess. Haha still makes me chuckle.
medassin
2017-01-13, 23:17
ichino: my imouto is maou lol :heh:
Cover volume 2 :D
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81CoDnjXgRL.jpg
is the purple hair gir carol?l
^Yes
New raw chapter boi~
Grinding~
Natsume01
2017-01-16, 20:18
^ New raw chapter boi~
This bakacouple will never cease to surprise me. They seriously thought they were heroes (and monster tamer?) when they get hurt so easily?
This vampire, what the hell is he doing here? He's gonna get killed if he tries to kill Ichino, and by his own master (The Super Maou aka brocon imouto)
^bacouple got pinned by table stomped by Centauros who ate their food which actually poisoned and they got bone fracture making them unable to participate the fight while Centauros is just fine and now eating grass outside~
Natsume01
2017-01-17, 05:00
^ Yeah that made me laugh. How can it even be fine? It was enough poison to kill a small(?) dragon.
And even after eating that feast, it still went to eat grass.
I wonder who Centauros really is?
^Shoot, in the new chapter author said that Centauros' past (lol) is revealed in the LN vol 2. Go buy it you.
LifeHowling
2017-03-01, 12:37
Is slave's liberation going to be raised in the novel? Or breaking/removing of the collar at least? The fact protagonist's friend is a slave and government can sell her again should raise concern, I think. Is it possible to write to the author about this subject?
^No, MC enjoys having slaves...
Is slave's liberation going to be raised in the novel? Or breaking/removing of the collar at least? The fact protagonist's friend is a slave and government can sell her again should raise concern, I think. Is it possible to write to the author about this subject?
Firstly, who should the friend be? If it's supposed to be the chuuni/shy two personality one, then it's questionable whether she is a friend.
Secondly, no, goverment can't sell her, because... you know, it doesen't own her. Subordinate of MC's sister owns her and she has 0 need/wish to do so even if the sister would (and she wouldn't) allow it.
Thirdly, freeing slaves is just plain stupid. There is not 1 good reason to do so and hundreds not to. Only possible exception would be freeing slaves of other people (cause you want them to your party), but that is a serrious crime (stealth), so most Japanese MC's don't have the guts to do so.
darkofficer
2017-03-03, 08:00
Is slave's liberation going to be raised in the novel? Or breaking/removing of the collar at least? The fact protagonist's friend is a slave and government can sell her again should raise concern, I think. Is it possible to write to the author about this subject?
why do you want to cantact the author about??
medassin
2017-03-31, 22:55
miri adventure (^_^)b
how long chap until miri meet ichino ?
^Supposed to be next chapter
But there hasn't been update for weeks
They have not reunited yet and sadly the author hasn't released a new chapter since February 16. :sad:
Ichino is currently trapped on a island due to a new unknown jobless skill he got. This island has the Demon Lord's powerful monsters(that even the hero party couldn't handle) sealed on it, but the seal is is about to release within a few hours, so he plans on leveling up in order to stop the monsters from leaving the island.
This island is also where the Demon Lord's(Miri) power is sealed and now the seal is coming undone, Miri sensed it and is now on her way to that island.
But this is like 50-56 (raw)chapters away from the recently TL'ed chapter.
medassin
2017-04-01, 21:29
Ichino is currently trapped on a island due to a new unknown jobless skill he got. This island has the Demon Lord's powerful monsters(that even the hero party couldn't handle) sealed on it, but the seal is is about to release within a few hours, so he plans on leveling up in order to stop the monsters from leaving the island.
This island is also where the Demon Lord's(Miri) power is sealed and now the seal is coming undone, Miri sensed it and is now on her way to that island.
But this is like 50-56 (raw)chapters away from the recently TL'ed chapter.
lol, so sad :(
Does this have any relation with slave harem ? Or the author is the same and just using different pen name ?
They share several matching factor in the story.
Both mc most potent cheat/skill are 20x exp and 1/20 exp need, making 400x faster growth,
both mc only use slave
both mc could set 2nd/xrd job for himself and 2nd job for party
both mc 1st slave are dog/wolfkin
both mc 2nd slave are loli and have quite vast knowledge
The differences are this one have shorter story each chapter but the plot have much better flowing than slave harem. Also no boring sex stuff and lively tsukkomi character.
^No connection imho
This novel clearly adopted many things from slave harem
But the exp cheat and slave harem's systems are already imitated by many other novels that it becomes normal
And this has non-slave heroines such as Fuyun
Care to tell me which novel have similar quick level up cheat to these? (no instant high level up like sugar or skeleton which could be said already kansuto)
I know the author really love horse/donkey. Died by horse, op donkey, and now beastial. :heh:
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In town cheat the heroine/second wife is a camel. orz
^:heh:
This : Bocchi (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=139896) ?
Most of that kind of novels are dead already, no updates for a long long time
Or either so bad that I instant dropped
Latest up 2016/02, better not touch it... orz
Natsume01
2017-04-02, 07:32
^ Yeah, it's going to be two months without an update, the author is not even saying why, especially so after he said in one of the earlier chapter that he'll post a chapter a week.
What makes me even more mad is that his other work is being updated EVERY day and for this one it's always an extremely short chapter every month.
EDIT 04/12:
Seems like we'll be getting a new update this Sunday and there'll be more frequent releases around May.
すみません、同時連載のほうが忙しいのではなくて、現在四作品同時に書籍化作業でしかも締め切りが波状攻撃 のようになっている状況で(2作品校正作業、2作品原稿執筆作業)というバカなことをしていて手も足も出て いない状況でして なんとか今度の日曜日には更新できると思いますので、どうかお許しください あと、同時連載のほうは5月には最終回になるので、その後はこちらの連載頻度も上がると思いま す。
I didn't quite understand: is he saying that his other work is going to end in May?
^Fucking guy is doing publication works for 4 of his novels at the same time, insane. Yes, one of his other work will end in May so this one will get updated more often.
New chapter
【無職Lv97 火魔術師Lv60★ 水魔術師Lv56 風魔術師Lv56 土魔術師Lv60★】
Somethindarker
2017-04-15, 21:40
^Fucking guy is doing publication works for 4 of his novels at the same time, insane. Yes, one of his other work will end in May so this one will get updated more often.
New chapter
【無職Lv97 火魔術師Lv60★ 水魔術師Lv56 風魔術師Lv56 土魔術師Lv60★】
Well I've read 2 of his other works(at least I think they were his), they're all... meh. I'd rather him finish his other works and put all his focus on 1 work.
I'm going to be so irked if the story switches back to that tournament in the cat village next chapter.
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Question: Is he supposed to gain a new skill every 5 levels?
Before the most recent chapter the level of his current active jobs were: 【[Unemployed Lv 90] [Fire Magician Lv 12] [Water Magician Lv 1] [Wind Magician Lv 1] [Earth Magician Lv 12]】
But in the most recent chapter the level of those active jobs are: 【[Unemployed Lv 97] [Fire Magician Lv 60] [Water Magician Lv 56] [Wind Magician Lv 56] [Earth Magician Lv 60]】
So now I'm curious if he got a new skill after reaching [Unemployed Lv 95](Jobless)
^I think it was every 10 levels?
Lv 90 was [My World] skill, right?
My memory of this is fuzzy but I dun think he had 18 Jobless Skills at Lv 90
Natsume01
2017-04-16, 06:56
Finally a new chapter. Took him long enough. If the work that's going to end in May is the one he updates every day, I hope he'll update this one every day too (or at least 2-3 times a week).
^&^^ I think it was every 10 levels too. So he'll have to wait until [Unemployed Lv 100]
I hope he won't go back to the tournament now. First should be the siblings' reunion and Shiina' rescue.
^That cat tournament is boring as hell :heh:
Here some illustrations :
http://i.imgur.com/vuovz8Z.jpg http://i.imgur.com/o0ioPdU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sPF9pAc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VRRfxzj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RNCbaAr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LArKNll.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/I9Jokzd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8tclW7q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vuovz8Z.jpg
This is Norn rite ?
Is her weapon supposed to be a spear ? It resemble a cutter I used for working on plamo and pepakura. :heh:
Cover for Vol 3, Kanon and Marina
Why do they look better than the main heroine lol :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/TxumVVA.jpg
Cover for Vol 3, Kanon and Marina
Why do they look better than the main heroine lol :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/TxumVVA.jpg
Maybe because their both giving off that hot lesbian vibe.
Marina looks like she should be shouting "EXPLOSION!"
^Megumin is not that stacked :heh:
sparhawk1610
2017-04-20, 05:12
^Megumin is not that stacked :heh:
But she have enough of Chuuni in her for that :heh: (with mask ofc)
Ruki0089
2017-04-20, 06:32
That's megumin copycat with nice set of boob...:heh:
^Megumin is not that stacked :heh:Besides not having the red eyes, I feel like she wouldn't be that out of place within the Crimson Demon clan and the first chuuni arch wizard who came to mind was Megumin.
Although Kanon looks different than I expected, I always pictured her as a tanned onee-san in short shorts.
Cover for Vol 3, Kanon and Marina
Why do they look better than the main heroine lol :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/TxumVVA.jpg
Best girl Miri where ?
Best girl Miri where ?
https://i.imgur.com/o0ioPdU.jpg
^ I mean in the cover or atleast in adventurer or maou costume.
Natsume01
2017-05-13, 12:06
Seems like the author has finished his other story. Still no updates.
He also started another series, which he's going to update daily if I read it correctly.
Does someone knows if he is planning to do the same for this one? (maybe ask him if possible)
^He said the update rate for this will increase
But let's face it, this is popular as LN so author will milk it as much as possible by delaying the WN
Yeah, he said it'll have more updates, didn't say how much.
This is popular ...? It's kinda boring and the team rocket duo kinda annoying.
^Shit dorei harem meikyuu is even more popular than this :heh:
^Shit dorei harem meikyuu is even more popular than this :heh:
How can that be ? All I read in dorei harem were only carnal desires. They only sleep, eat/cook, sex and repeat without any real adventure. While in seichou cheat we have comedy, adventure, tsuntsun, and super donkey.
I've wrote before that this and dorei have lots of similarities in party member and job/level system, but I prefer seichou cheat a lot more than dorei.
^It was from the time when people don't know any better :heh:
An update
From now on it will be twice a week
Thank god, I thought the author was going to focus solely on whatever new series he made.
Ew, so this was stalled for 3 months.
Only 2 chap increased since last time I read this at early march.
Natsume01
2017-05-16, 15:29
^ It was stalled for two months then he released a chapter, and go back on hiatus for one month.
He just released a chapter, but it was barely 2k words. And it was again about that stupid tournament.
At least it got a bit better.
^^ Yeah I was worried too that he'll completely concentrate on that new series.
Still why won't he release this one daily like the other series and this new series.
How are the sales for this light novel?
At least, it's twice a week now. Let's just hope he will increase it later and not decrease it, and that the chapters gets a bit longer. Well, it's short even for the other series but it's shorter than before now.
With this this wn is the same as dorei harem, in term of very slow release. :twitch:
^Dorei harem is practically dead though
This one's author is very much alive
Natsume01
2017-05-19, 09:51
New raw chapter~!
As boring as ever... He said that the tournament is even longer than what he thought in the beginning. Ahhh, seriously, we won't go back to the MC until the two chapters. And the chapter is still as small.
New chapter
Still that tournament
Nobody cares
Natsume01
2017-05-24, 03:12
^ Read it yesterday.
Didn't even to comment on it.
How stupid... What the hell was the point of this battle?
Next chapter should return to MC. And I hope this time it will lasts until he gets back (and meet his sister).
medassin
2017-05-26, 06:24
anyone have illu of vol3 <3
New chap
Finally back to MC yay~
Natsume01
2017-05-27, 16:09
^ Read it.
Finally~ It really better not go back to that boring tournament next time. Well it most likely won't, but we never know with this author.
Still a pretty short chapter and, well, boring. It may have been only a few hours in the novel since the monster is supposed to come but for us it literally has been months. Feel like he's still going to battle it in a few months.
^^ no one posted any. If you're asking for volume 03, does it mean you have the illustrations for v01-v02? If so, can you post it here? (or pm)
personax
2017-05-27, 16:36
New chap
Finally back to MC yay~
So what happen in the recent chapter?
^New chapter
Pionia best girl
Natsume01
2017-05-30, 10:35
^You were faster.
Hmm, Piona best girl with Miri~
Still a boring chapter though.
^It's not boring
The jokes with Pionia is great :heh:
^ It was a pointless filler chapter
Natsume01
2017-05-30, 13:43
^ It's just like Hokoga said. As if the chapters weren't short and released slowly, the author keeps releasing useless chapter.
Kind of feels like the author is stalling with this new chapter as well.
But what are the chances that he will MAX level(Lv 60) his [Water Magician Lv 56] [Wind Magician Lv 56] jobs from killing those sea monsters, and then somehow get skills that let's him swim really fast & breath under water or a skill that let's him fly in the sky using wind?
^Padding into the sea and mamono swarmed the boat
The overuse of "Slash" is bothering me
Natsume01
2017-06-02, 12:51
^^ I also think he'll MAX level his two magician jobs. But I doubt he'll get those skills. Well maybe the flying skill.
^ What do you mean? Are you bothered by the fact that he is only using this?
Now that I think about, he really use it a lot. Why not use his skills from the magician job (Wind/Water)? He trained them for a reason.
Or maybe it was just too increase his MP pool to use Slash even more. Ahaha :D
If he got surrounded, he could use it with both hand while turning around. (Horizontal Slash for hitting more monsters).
The author may be stalling, but at least Ichino is finally fighting. Didn't want a chapter with only a conversation between Caro and him.
What kind of monster do you think it is? Something that even Miri at full strength couldn't beat or at least didn't really want to fight.
I liked that little flashback on Earth. Mri even used magic to solve that problem there.
Natsume01
2017-06-06, 08:57
New raw chapter~
Yep, I knew the name will be Leviathan. "Umi no Maou", huh.
Wow, quite the cheat monster. Even Goddesses can't beat that easily.
Well, Miri could beat it with her Black Magic that pierces everything (the one she used when she met the two Goddesses).
Finally an interesting chapter!
Can't wait for Ancient Nova next chapter~
But the island was struck by Leviathan's thunder...
RIP Shiina :(
Natsume01
2017-06-06, 11:46
Yep, finally an interesting chapter.
^ If it will really kill with one attack (Ancient Nova + Boost = 10times the skill), I doubt it'll be in the next chapter. After all the drama on this Maou(Monster), do you really think the author will let it end so easily. I guess it'll be kind of funny if it does, though.
Don't say that~! Now's the time for the Hero(Maou) Miri to appear and save her.
What!? SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT!!!!!
Cool chapter.
But damn, will they miss each other again!?
Natsume01
2017-06-09, 11:00
Great Chapter!!!
NOoooooooooo! Caro, WHY?! Damn! Will they really not meet up?
They better do meet up. Man, why did she have to do it at that timing...
Thanks to Caro what should have been a great chapter turned into an irritating one, so does this mean that Miri stole all of the experience points from by killing Leviathan?
Natsume01
2017-06-09, 15:59
^ Yeah, exactly. She's so irritating... I wanted to say it on the previous comment, but I can understand why she did what she did. He could've died and she wasn't supposed to know Miri was there unlike us.
...Still really hated her right then.
I don't think so, he should receive some even if he was a bit far away. But since he's in his "space" maybe she'll.
I don't think so, he should receive some even if he was a bit far away. But since he's in his "space" maybe she'll.Remember in the first arc when Ichino & Haru first went into a dungeon together and Haru intended on beating the monsters to a near death state and having Ichino to finish them off so he could gain experience points, but he refused?
The reason she went about it that way was because they weren't in a party together and if she killed all the monsters then Ichino wouldn't gain any experience points.
If they were in a party together then he would receive some experience points, but their not; so only Miri gets the experience points since she's the one who finished it. (Is this what is called a kill-steal?)
Natsume01
2017-06-10, 16:54
^ Oh right, forgot about that. It's been a while... Need to reread this. Will do it when the TL catches up a bit, since the TL is good. (Glad it's not some bad mtl.)
Are you sure that it's only the person who kills it in the end that earns all the experience points?
Just to confirm: was it said explicitly?
If so, that's sounds awful, anyone could wait and steal the last hit to earn all the experience points.
Even if she got it all, all he could level up was the [Jobless]. While it is kind of his most important job and gets really good skill with it, Miri needs to level up too.
And she wants to get stronger for him, so he wins too.
But man, every time I think about what Caro did, I get angry... Hard to get it out of my head.
When I saw that he didn't kill it and that he couldn't re-cast (normally) the skill, I thought she'll come. And she did but not in the way I though she will.
I think the author is trying to delay their reunion. What do you think?
New chapter
Well, at the very least Millie knows that MC was there and the current master of Shiina
Natsume01
2017-06-13, 07:31
Yeah! At least Shiina told her who is her third and current master.
They should meet in that city.
EDIT:
New chapter~
Well, he's not going to change that job. That's (almost a) certainty.
I wonder what kind of skills he'll get.
So how did he leveled up? Is it thanks to the monsters before Leviathan or did he get some EXP from it even if he wasn't in the party?
Ahhhh, 3 chapters of that tournament left. Well, at least it's only 3. I thought it'll be more seeing how slowly it went before.
New chapter
So he got EXP afterall?
New chapter~
Well, he's not going to change that job. That's (almost a) certainty.
I wonder what kind of skills he'll get.
So how did he leveled up? Is it thanks to the monsters before Leviathan or did he get some EXP from it even if he wasn't in the party?
Ahhhh, 3 chapters of that tournament left. Well, at least it's only 3. I thought it'll be more seeing how slowly it went before.Who knows... But if he did level up due to the Leviathan then that would pretty much contradict what was said in the first Arc and make the party rings(rings that allow him to temporally form a party with other people) pointless.
Hopefully those 3 chapters are short.
^ There is still a chance of cooperation EXP. In other words you might be getting separate EXP for damage done and for last atack (all after the kill), but that would be seriously gamish.
Natsume01
2017-06-16, 19:25
^^ Well, all his chapters are barely 2k JP words so it's really short.
But yeah I agree with you, that tournament really is boring.
^ That's what I think. Don't forget that the goddess in the beginning said that manga/LN/games were made so that they'll make people used to the new world. So it's normal if you think it's gamish.
I think that as long as you deal some serious damage, you will earn some EXP at the end and that the last attack is worth more.
EDIT:
New chapter~~
Ooh, it got a bit more interesting thanks the Miri. How did she get here so fast?
Oh right, she can use Teleport Magic.
Why was Kanon supposed to listen to Walf's order? Don't remember it.
New chapter
Back to the tournament
Boring~
Why was Kanon supposed to listen to Walf's order? Don't remember it.Because he's a pompous bastard who thinks he has the authority to order people around.
New chapter
Back to the tournament
Boring~Boring indeed.
Hopefully Miri can make the next chapter a little more interesting.
Natsume01
2017-06-20, 13:18
^^ Really? That was all? Wow, I thought there was something else.
Yeah this chapter was boring, the only thing I liked is that Miri appeared. I just hope the next will be more interesting with her in it.
It's always fun when she's here.
^ The hell?!
Since Miri appeared where Haru is, I guess there's more chance that she meet her onii-chan. I hope it'll be in this volume (meaning in the next 3 chapters). But with this author, who knows~
I feel like he'll drag it longer.
New chapter
Quite interesting
1-hit-kill lol~
Natsume01
2017-06-23, 09:18
Well, now. She came, she killed, she left. All in an instant.
Why didn't she stay with Haru and Marina if she wanted to meet him?
It would have been more sure.
So she knows Marina real name (in Kanji) and she knew who she was even on Earth.
Hmmm, interesting.
That last line... Her yandere knows no bounds. Well, if she killed them, her brother will hate her for sure so she won't.
^Probably there's another reason for the killing
What's her relationship with Marina?
Their age so far apart...
Natsume01
2017-06-23, 09:52
^ Yeah that's what I thought too. I was just joking.
Well, knowing her it wouldn't be past her to do that, if not for her brother.
I don't know. There wasn't any clue in all the chapters. I didn't even think she'll know her.
How old is Marina again?
^25/26 I guess
Her LN age is lower 19/21?
Somewhere around that
Natsume01
2017-06-23, 12:07
^Are you sure she was that old?
I think she was around 20/21 like Ichino.
You read the LN of this too?
EDIT:
Just checked the Character Listing (ch82 at Tseirptranslations).
She is 21. (http://tseirptranslations.com/2016/12/gc-characters.html)
Sorry for a little short epilogue.Really?
The chapters(after the hiatus) before this was just as short.
Well I guess the next arc is supposed be more interesting, the author says that Ichino and Miri will reunite in the next arc but I have my doubts.
This arc is over
I should just let this thing pile up before touching it again
Natsume01
2017-06-27, 10:32
^^ You can say that again. The chapters got so short since he returned.
Well it's true that this one is shorter (~1.6K vs ~2.2K)
Nothing to say for this chapter except the part where he says they'll meet.
I hope they really do.
I wish he'll stop those chapters with the Bakacouple. They're boring, and not that funny.
^Yeah maybe I'll do so too. Will see how are the first chapters of the next volume first.
Natsume01
2017-06-30, 11:58
New chapter~~
「ん? あぁ。海釣りの大会で妹のミリが四百二十キロの本マグロっていう魚を釣り上げた時の話なんだけどな 」
「はい、イチノ様っ! 話の続きは絶対に後で聞かせてくださいね!」
「わかってるっ! ダイオウイカとのバトルの話はあとでする!」
Man, that's too much. What kind of adventures did Miri have on Earth?!
It's now time to hunt some pirates. If he takes their ship, he'll get at the Port more quickly/easily.
^Yea
1 week skipped like shit
Author should use that time to develop Caro as a heroine
Natsume01
2017-06-30, 13:59
^ I agree a bit but honestly it would have been boring. One whole week with the two of them in a boat. It would have been too boring to read.
Replace Caro by Piona and now we have a deal.
I like her, she's more funny. Her scenes with Ichino are good.
^Piona is there too
Both can be developed
But he chose to skip to pirate attack
One of the problems with wn storytelling is there needs to be a "huge event" to revolve around
Like world destroying threats appearing one after another
Would the world be destroyed if the MC doesn't intervene every time?
Natsume01
2017-06-30, 14:40
^ Yeah I know but you didn't talk about her and they'll be in the boat all the time so she won't be there that much.
IIRC his 'My World' can only be opened at the same place if he enters too so they'll have to either take the boat in and take it out everytime, only let Caro in (so no Piona/Ichino scene) or let her out (but she can't since her mana will be used rapidly = dead).
Yeah, I'd like some peaceful scene from time to time. But too much and it'll become way too boring. You'll need a good author for that.
Well let's hope the Pirate Attack won't be boring.
finnaly finish reading till latest part.....
kinda irritating seeing caro tratment.....
with the reason waiting her to become 18 old!?
and at least give her some way for self defense -_- make her learn earth/grass magic or give her sickle based weapon she had farmer job after all.....
when the other 3 fighting, caro only stand there and some times casting charm ...... orz
and THAT FREAKING LEVIATHAN out there for easy transport and strong pet for god sake, he didn't consider tame it??? even though caro already mention a way for escaping island via tamed monster?????
>seeing pirate
>prepare tomato and full barrel wine
>try asking a way, if showing hostility sink the ship
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since when pirate became so nice with only tomato and wine????
New chapter out
They attack Ichino and get beat up but since it was getting annoying Ichino took out a cane/wand pointed it towards the sea and activated a lower power version of the Ancient Flames and caused s huge explosion, then he pointed the wand towards the pirate ship and they surrendered.
Turns out the pirates are actually just fishermen but something happened to the fish in the sea and Ichino thinks it's because of Leviathan but the fishermen tell him it's because of that crafty demon Miri(Miryu?).
End of chapter.
^Well, that was a funny and fun chapter :heh:
But really, how do you stop a ship? :heh:
Natsume01
2017-07-06, 09:27
Well that was a funny chapter. Been a while since one.
So Miri is the cause. Wonder what she has done.
^ Ahaha, I don't know either. How do you stop a ship?
So next chapter tomorrow. He could have posted both today...
iirc ichi have blacksmith job with magic steel recipe inside..... why still use steel sword? :v
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dunno why but seeing word torikaji ippai it's funny for me:heh:
Natsume01
2017-07-07, 12:16
New chapter~~
よし、無視だ無視。放置してそのまま逃げよう――と思ったのだが、今度は海賊たち全員が俺を 拝み、
Yeah as if they'll let you, and as if you'll really do nothing.
Caro really knows everything~~ Impressive, knowing that she was a slave, didn't go out that much. Well, her parents taught her and she read books but still.
「勿論皆を説得いたします!」
At least, you've shown who's the boss.
^There must be at least 1 walking dictionary character in every story :heh:
So this pirate thing is like yakuza or mafia, a necessary evil
This is a nice new chapter
also, Caro's pantsu
Natsume01
2017-07-14, 17:04
「… それはどうかな? 実は人間のフリをした凶暴な悪魔かもしれんぞ?」
He is kind of right. Though if his sister heard this, he'll got into some serious problem.
Lol'd at the last sentence. He probably went down first to see it, unconsciously I mean.
How can the author even forgot to update this when the chapters are so short and when he still post that slime story daily?
He even posted two chapters of that on that day (tuesday).
They are always passing by each other!
Pisses me off!
The hell is this? Soap Opera!?
Give me a break!
fumu, will onhold this wn till the update finnaly show the sibling reunion :v
New chapter
Haru and Marina arrived there and wanna visit the pirates
Estranged slaves' life so harsh
New chapter
Haru and Marina arrived there and wanna visit the pirates
Estranged slaves' life so harsh
So Haru and Marina travel separately from the protagonist? This is the fault of MC sister?
I thought MC would never part with Haru.
Natsume01
2017-07-25, 08:59
^ No no, you got it wrong. It has nothing to do with his sister.
It's because of some teleportation magic that sent Ichinojo and Caro in a island.
They're going to join again in the port (pirates).
Haven't read the last two chapters, will wait until a few chapters.
^^ So they're not going to meet in this chapter? What the hel!!
I didn't read this for some soap opera. She's one of the most interesting chara in this novel so I really hope we got to see their reunion soon.
New chapter is about arm wrestling with pirates
Every time I look in this thread, it's about more dawdling and no reunion with sister... Making it really hard to get around to reading this.
^ No no, you got it wrong. It has nothing to do with his sister.
It's because of some teleportation magic that sent Ichinojo and Caro in a island.
They're going to join again in the port (pirates).
Haven't read the last two chapters, will wait until a few chapters.
^^ So they're not going to meet in this chapter? What the hel!!
I didn't read this for some soap opera. She's one of the most interesting chara in this novel so I really hope we got to see their reunion soon.
Thank you very much for your answer.
Do you think Haru is the most interesting character? Totally agree with you. I do not like the sister of the protagonist. I feel MC will have a lot of problems with it. She is the final boss.
I'm afraid he'll somehow hurt Haru. She also served as MC sister. I do not like moments when friends of the protagonist for some reason pass to the side of the enemy. A sister can force her.
Can you please answer 3 more questions:
1) Who, at the moment, enters the MC harem? (A list of names is desirable).
2) The main character took Carol as his second wife? He doubted everything. Although even Haru agreed.
3) According to the comments in the topic, new villains appeared. Was there a drama with them? I hope no one harmed the girls of the main character.
I alas can not read in Japanese. But after reading the comments, there were three more questions. If you are not tired of me, please respond.
1) Who are Shiina, Caro and Kanon. Are these new minor characters or new candidates for the MC harem?
2) How is the Norn doing? Did Miri still make her into a slave and masochistic? And how are things with Pionia?
3) The main character did not release his slaves from slavery? If not, how many slaves does he have now? And how much does his sister have?
Natsume01
2017-07-25, 12:00
^ Well for some of the questions, you've the translated version by Tseirp.
I'll try but don't really remember everything.
1)
Shiina = If I remember correctly she was an homunculus made by Miri (when she was a Demon Lord). She's in the dungeon that's located in the island the MC and Caro got transported.
Caro = She already appeared in the translated version since a while ago. She's the slave Ichinojo bought, the one who had the power to attract demons/monsters thank to her pheromones(or whatever). Ichinojo saved her by changing her job so that she won't always attract demons.
Kanon = she appeared in the translated version too. She's the demon who served Miri when she was still a demon lord. She's also the master of Marina and the one who gave 'ownership' of Marina to MC. In the recent translated chapter, she was found by Miri in the underground arena (beneath the casino).
2) Well I guess she's doing good. She followed Miri to search for Mc. She gets a bit mistreated by Miri but nothing really much. (well, she's not dead). She's not a slave, she followed Miri of her own will. Something you should know if you read the translated version.
Piona, it's going good but we don't really have a lot of scenes with her. Last time I read, she was the one who helped the MC when he was stranded in the island. She made a ship/boat for him.
3) He did not, he wanted to but Haru and Caro didn't want to. They said they wanted to stay a slave and pay him back for everything he has done for them.
Haru, Caro and Marina, I guess. Marina was Kanon's slave but she gave the ownership to MC when she had to go since it'll be too dangerous for Marina to follow her (and that she didn't know she was a demon). His sister, 0. She has not slave. In the last chapter, there's just Norn and Kanon who follow her.
Already said it but you should read Tseirp's translation. There are good quality and not that far from the author.
^^As of the latest chapter, MC accepted Caro, but they decided to inform Haru first before doing anything
No harem girls harmed in this story
(Actually series with that is so rare coz usually the readers will boycott such series)
(Will only work in a series with that kind of vibe from the start, like Soul Spinner)
^^As of the latest chapter, MC accepted Caro, but they decided to inform Haru first before doing anythingCaro is currently 17 but Ichinojo wants to wait until she's 18 before they do(it) anything.
Caro is currently 17 but Ichinojo wants to wait until she's 18 before they do(it) anything.
Not anymore
The chapter before the last, MC already acknowledged her as a woman, but feel bad with Haru if they do anything when they are currently separated.
(Actually series with that is so rare coz usually the readers will boycott such series)
Is it bad that no girl from the harem was hurt?
I understand that if MC, because of certain circumstances, raped one of the girls to make her his.
But I do not understand the essence of netorare, especially if the hero is strong. There are of course hentai, where the main character is a weakling.
His girlfriend is raped, and he just cries in the end and does not try to do anything. Even report to the police.
But I do not like stories where villains are raping girls of the main character, while he because of the distance between them can not save her.
^It depends on the type of the series (excluding hentai)
For things like Game of Thrones, the absence of rape is weird instead
Lawless Isekai should be like that as well in reality, but most of them eventually become peaceful Isekai
Japanese authors can't stick with their settings tbh
If they want no rape, should set the Isekai police force as excellent or something
Most of the time they just leave it to chance and plot armor
Almost no series in narou has super bad development nowadays though, I see no need to worry so much
Not anymore
The chapter before the last, MC already acknowledged her as a woman, but feel bad with Haru if they do anything when they are currently separated.I haven't read the last 3 chapters so I didn't know.
^It depends on the type of the series (excluding hentai)
For things like Game of Thrones, the absence of rape is weird instead
Lawless Isekai should be like that as well in reality, but most of them eventually become peaceful Isekai
Japanese authors can't stick with their settings tbh
If they want no rape, should set the Isekai police force as excellent or something
Most of the time they just leave it to chance and plot armor
Almost no series in narou has super bad development nowadays though, I see no need to worry so much
I correctly understand: Isekai is something like a section of short novel? It seems to be translated as a different world.
So this is all novels, where the main character gets into another world?
But then I did not understand about the police.
For example, when you hit the medieval world. Can there be an excellent police? It seems to me at this time the guards themselves and even the commanders are ready to rape the beautiful girls of the protagonist.
For example, ranobe "Welcome to the Man-Eating Dungeon". The first girl who lived in the village with the main character was raped by the whole village.
After that, you start to wonder: if you suddenly get into another world, then what will this world be like?) If in a similar to the given ranobe, it's somehow sad.
^If you hadn't notice, most webnovels currently around is about MC transported to fantasy world (isekai)
The act of getting to this barbaric world itself opens the possibility of rape and bad things just like in Earth's conflict areas
But then many of such series is relatively peaceful, like Death March or Smartphone
I think in order for Isekai to be peaceful there needs to be a system to maintain law & order, for example excellent police or karma system (some series have this, quite cool)
dragon1412
2017-07-26, 03:05
^If you hadn't notice, most webnovels currently around is about MC transported to fantasy world (isekai)
The act of getting to this barbaric world itself opens the possibility of rape and bad things just like in Earth's conflict areas
But then many of such series is relatively peaceful, like Death March or Smartphone
I think in order for Isekai to be peaceful there needs to be a system to maintain law & order, for example excellent police or karma system (some series have this, quite cool)
I actually agree with this. And the reverse as well. When I read novel, Most of the times they go to extreme on both ends, the peaceful one is like Erotora noted, but there is the reverse which mainly CN novel are more dominant in it, though no less JP novel is guiltless of it either, the world clearly have a functioned society yet people keep doing whatever they feel like, killing and stuff. Personally, for the idea of normal society to functioned is like what Erotora said, need some sort of proof to maintain order, Remember the crime system in Death march ??? yeah, like that, people don't expect to get away for whatever they do. While in the reverse case, I can only think of post Appocalypse novel where the society it self is destroyed would lead to it
I actually agree with this. And the reverse as well. When I read novel, Most of the times they go to extreme on both ends, the peaceful one is like Erotora noted, but there is the reverse which mainly CN novel are more dominant in it, though no less JP novel is guiltless of it either, the world clearly have a functioned society yet people keep doing whatever they feel like, killing and stuff. Personally, for the idea of normal society to functioned is like what Erotora said, need some sort of proof to maintain order, Remember the crime system in Death march ??? yeah, like that, people don't expect to get away for whatever they do. While in the reverse case, I can only think of post Appocalypse novel where the society it self is destroyed would lead to it
Oh, Death March has that, ain't it?
Dun even remember coz it barely describe how society works in favor of more cooking chapters :heh:
But yea, wish Isekai works be more "logical"
kari-no-sugata II
2017-07-26, 05:02
http://www.historytoday.com/sean-mcglynn/violence-and-law-medieval-england
There certainly weren't police around in the middle ages, but there was a system of crime and punishment. Trial by jury is very old.
Throughout the whole medieval period there was popular demand for malefactors to receive punishment that was both harsh and purposefully terrifying. This reflected people's investment in the social order and their anxiety at any perceived threat to it. Such was this enthusiasm and the desire to see justice being done there was even an executions transfer market: bids were made to stage the executions of condemned men in front of home crowds.
The need for governmental action against violent crime was strong. Manor records from England reveal that deaths from manslaughter were far commoner than accidental deaths. Then, as now, protagonists of violent crimes came in all shapes and sizes, with young men forming the largest group of those responsible for manslaughter and murder. Medieval crime statistics are hugely problematic. Evidence from England suggests that in the thirteenth-century there was approximately one annual killing for every twenty villages; by the early 1500s estimates would appear to indicate violent crimes running at the annual rate of twenty per 100,000 of population, ten times that of the nineteenth century.
Male prejudice was highly apparent in rape cases. When rape was made a capital felony in 1285, jurors would condemn only those in holy orders as, unlike laymen, they could plead benefit of clergy to avoid the noose. The writings of misogynistic monks portraying women as stereotypical temptresses and latter-day Eves could twist opinions into expressing the view that some women deserved to be raped; the accused frequently resorted to the effective defence of besmirching the moral character of his victim. Rape, as an offence against the king's peace, was a serious crime, but one with an extraordinarily high acquittal rate. Questions of proof of consent, the lack of witnesses, and the reluctance of an all-male jury to pass a death sentence all conspired to mitigate punitive legislation. A number of studies highlight this glaring injustice. In the English Midlands between 1400 and 1430, of 280 rape cases, not one led to a conviction. For the country as a whole in the first three-quarters of the thirteenth century, only one prosecution out of 142 resulted in so much as a fine (two others, of clerics, were dealt with - how we do not know - by the more lenient church courts).
I think in order for Isekai to be peaceful there needs to be a system to maintain law & order, for example excellent police or karma system (some series have this, quite cool)
For example: "No Game, No Life". There, even the war is replaced by a game. Hence, no rape will be.
Male prejudice was highly apparent in rape cases. When rape was made a capital felony in 1285, jurors would condemn only those in holy orders as, unlike laymen, they could plead benefit of clergy to avoid the noose. The writings of misogynistic monks portraying women as stereotypical temptresses and latter-day Eves could twist opinions into expressing the view that some women deserved to be raped; the accused frequently resorted to the effective defence of besmirching the moral character of his victim. Rape, as an offence against the king's peace, was a serious crime, but one with an extraordinarily high acquittal rate. Questions of proof of consent, the lack of witnesses, and the reluctance of an all-male jury to pass a death sentence all conspired to mitigate punitive legislation. A number of studies highlight this glaring injustice. In the English Midlands between 1400 and 1430, of 280 rape cases, not one led to a conviction. For the country as a whole in the first three-quarters of the thirteenth century, only one prosecution out of 142 resulted in so much as a fine (two others, of clerics, were dealt with - how we do not know - by the more lenient church courts).
That's how you dream to get into the world of sword and magic, to collect a harem. And then you read the story and you realize that you can easily lose this harem. Especially if you take into account the plot, where you do not get a special ability from the gods (or in another way). If you are weak in a new world, then you can not save anyone.
dragon1412
2017-07-26, 08:39
well, good thing is, Isekai genre is slowing down a lot lately, and might completely diffused in around 1 or 2 years. People don't like it too much when there is template everywhere
well, good thing is, Isekai genre is slowing down a lot lately, and might completely diffused in around 1 or 2 years. People don't like it too much when there is template everywhere
But is there a similar genre that can replace it?
And can someone write me 5-6 novels similar to this one. That is, where the harem is not just for travel and adventure, but the protagonist has sex with his girls.
dragon1412
2017-07-26, 09:21
it less a problem of a new genre replaced it, and more of the entry gate is getting higher and higher. When Isekai genre 1st bloomed, we only have roughly 20 titles or so and it attract reader with success. As of now, there might be literally hundreds of them, if not even reaching 1 thousand. Basically, every template they could use, any special ability they could think of, any new world they makes is likely to have already written somewhere with different name. To stand out, new writers in Isekai have to write a piece that's good enough to attract readers. So it's became very hard for new authors to write in Isekai genre, and the competition is even worse in LN. It is 1 things for author who ride the popularity of the wave when it's start, but now it is subsided.
TLDR: the Isekai genre is exhausting it potential. People create pretty much anything with it and raise the bar to latecomers.
There is also the issue of readers, like how people reading too much jokes and have their laughing point increase to ridiculous standard unknowingly, experienced reader have it bar raise way higher to 1 genre when it is using too much.
The Green One
2017-07-26, 09:40
You know, no one is actually forced to read a genre, if they feel a genre is tired, burnt out, overdone they can just try the revolutionary idea of just NOT reading new entries in it if they don't like it so much. Reading it anyway and complaining about it is just kind of goofy.
http://www.historytoday.com/sean-mcglynn/violence-and-law-medieval-england
There certainly weren't police around in the middle ages, but there was a system of crime and punishment. Trial by jury is very old.
The law is of less importance than the enforcement of it
I mean, Somalia can create whatever law they want, but the warlords will never follow it coz the country lacks the power to enforce it
Hence Isekai MC usually needs to be OP to be "The Law" in that world
I prefer the Isekai settings to be altered instead of having the MC be The Judge, Jury, and Executioner :)
Explain to me please: Canon, this demoness, who gave MC Marina / Malina. She seemed to be free in the translated chapters. When did she become a slave to some Walf?
I'm still behind a few chapters but I just wanted to let you guys know that a new chapter was released today.
OH MY GOD! This chapter is so funny!
That One Piece reference
Also Oil Maker lol :heh:
Another raw chapter is up
So let me just confirm this, as of raw chapter 188, MC still haven't met his sister even once?
Also, right now MC is alone with caro and Miri is with Haru and Malina?
^They keep missing each other like a soap opera :heh:
Even in the latest chapter, they're supposed to encounter each other in the next chapter, but I won't get my hopes up :heh:
New chap
Many unimportant things happened
GodTurtleOm
2017-08-11, 14:55
I'm still curious about Miri's lines from 178 about how, if it comes to it, she's willing to kill Haru and Marina (who she was already familar with). It feels like the story still has at least one or two big reveals left in it.
^There are many more reveals, like in the latest chapter that Daigorou that ex-yuusha might show up etc, but this damn author keeps prolonging thing!
GreyZone
2017-08-14, 12:42
^They keep missing each other like a soap opera :heh:
Even in the latest chapter, they're supposed to encounter each other in the next chapter, but I won't get my hopes up :heh:
Urgh... All those "missing each other for 100s of chapters" or "having very dumb misunderstandings lasting for 100s of chapters" plotlines can go to hell. I kinda dropped ZTJ for doing that and I am indefinitly stalling this one as well until I get confirmation that TL reached the part where they meet.
BTW, at what chapter is the RAW right now?
GodTurtleOm
2017-08-14, 20:08
It's at chapter 190, but they aren't just barely missing each other anymore. The sister is fairly aware of what's going on with him and what he's been up to, and seems to building up to her own reveal. Right now they're both on opposite sides (geographically) of the some port town, which during its prime fishing season has a heavily conflicted bit of territory.
Haru and Marina are trying to meet up with Ichinojo and Carol, but there aren't many boats in operation. Miri kicked out the "pirates" which were originally responsible for securing a portion of the waters for the fishermen against the opposing towns, so it's fallen to Ichinojo to support the fishermen. All he knows is that the supposed former Demon Lord Miryuu has kicked out all the pirates for some unknown reason. Miri seems to just be waiting with Norn and probably Kanon for everyone to arrive, and I'm hoping we'll find out exactly what her plan is, and why she might want to kill Marina or Haru.
I can only assume that Miri did something to Ichinojo in their last life has caused his irregularities in this world. Even without the 400x experience growth, Jobless shouldn't have been able to grant extra job slots or allow hot-swapping of jobs. I have no clue how Marina factors into her plans though, or how she even has any history with her.
darkofficer
2017-08-14, 20:42
i wonder why does the mc wait with carol.?
Xellos-_^
2017-08-15, 18:41
he consider her a little kid
New chapter
Another meaningless chapter
http://i.imgur.com/I9V2ZOr.jpg?1
darkofficer
2017-08-29, 08:52
oh really ??
well the only plus side is that carol will probaly get snusnu'd
Finnaly? At beginning of cp or the end of cp?
Finnaly? At beginning of cp or the end of cp?
End
Thought it's freaking short anyway you can just read the entire chapter :eyespin:
Ichinojou gonna kill his sister
https://i.imgur.com/S9pzUTm.jpg
darkofficer
2017-09-07, 10:57
why would he ??
^They are in disguises and she hurted Haru
darkofficer
2017-09-07, 11:24
hmmm demon lord vs op person
Iroha Isshiki
2017-09-23, 07:52
It's not worth the wait anymore for me, as I thought I should never picked this series again after dropping it. Chapters became short, now I think author wants to rush the sister route, damn it, not worth the time I spent waiting for the reunion, forcing it.
But anyway I hope he gives us a better plot about this arc.
Imouto route
Millie/Miryuu stats :
……………………………………………………
名前:ミリュウ
種族:ヒューム
職業:闇魔術師:Lv60★
HP:120/120
MP:440/440
物攻:100
物防:100
魔攻:550
魔防:495
速度:130
幸運:10
装備:セーラー服 運動靴
スキル:【空間魔法Ⅲ】【闇魔法Ⅷ】【MPUP(微)】【魔攻UP(微)】【魔防UP(微)】
取得済み称号:迷宮踏破者Ⅳ
転職可能職業:平民Lv1 闇魔術師Lv60
……………………………………………………
Real :
……………………………………………………
名前:ミリュウ
種族:ヒューム
職業:魔王:Lv39
HP:505/505
MP:330/330
物攻:504
物防:505
魔攻:2004
魔防:1550
速度:251
幸運:30
装備:セーラー服 運動靴
スキル:【空間魔法Ⅲ】【闇魔法Ⅹ】【調合Ⅳ】【MP吸収】【MP節約】【ステータス偽造】【魔王の権威】 【悪魔召喚】【魔獣特攻】【月の力】
取得済み称号:迷宮踏破者Ⅳ
転職可能職業:平民Lv1 薬師Lv1
天恵:薬学
……………………………………………………
Ichinojou Stats :
……………………………………………………
名前:イチノジョウ
種族:ヒューム
職業:無職Lv99 火魔術師Lv60★ 水魔術師Lv60★ 風魔術師Lv60★ 土魔術師Lv60★
HP:444/444(10+90+90+90+90)(×1.2)
MP:403/2416(8+300+300+300+300)(×2.0)
物攻:394(9+80+80+80+80)(×1.2)
物防:403(7+90+90+90+90)(×1.1)
魔攻:3608(4+450+450+450+450)(×2.0)
魔防:2406(3+400+400+400+400)(×2.0)
速度:356(4+80+80+80+80)(×1.1)
幸運:55(10+10+10+10+10)(×1.1)
装備:綿の服 皮の靴 鉄の軽鎧 アクラピオスの杖
スキル:【剣装備Ⅱ】【スラッシュⅡ】【回転切りⅡ】【剣術強化(中)】【二刀流】
取得済み称号:レアハンター スキルマニア 職業マニア 迷宮踏破者Ⅳ 剣の道 見習い魔術師の極み 狩人の極み 見習い法術師の極み 拳闘士の極み 槌使いの極み 見習い鍛冶師 の極み 火魔術師の極み 水魔術師の極み 風魔術師の極み 土魔術師の極み 四大魔術師
無職Lv99 平民Lv75 農家Lv3 狩人Lv60★ 木こりLv14 見習い剣士Lv40★ 見習い魔術師Lv40★ 行商人Lv6 見習い槍士Lv8 剣士Lv60★ 弓士Lv1 見習い錬金術師Lv37 魔術 師Lv67 斧使いLv1 槌使いLv40★ 拳闘士Lv60★ 遊び人Lv13 魔記者Lv1 見習い法術師Lv40★ 解体士Lv1 見習い鍛冶師Lv40★ 錬金術師Lv33 法術師Lv48 音楽家Lv1 歌手Lv12 ダンサーLv12 芸術家Lv10 魔法剣士Lv12 火魔術師Lv60★ 水魔術師Lv60★ 風魔術師LvLv60★ 土魔術師LvLv60★ 侍Lv6 剣聖Lv1 剣闘士Lv1 槌士Lv1 鍛冶師Lv10 ボクサーLv1 光魔術師Lv1 闇魔術師Lv1
天恵:取得経験値20倍 必要経験値1/20
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New chapter
Still adventuring with imouto alone
Outdoor Chef Job Unlocked (Nobody Cares)
Sigh... The few chapters with Mili is way better than the entirety of this novel -__-
The Green One
2017-11-15, 10:32
No one is forcing you to read it if you hate it this much you know.....
^Nah, I mean just read recent stories with Mili in it, way way better
Also, new chapter is just up, and we can see "girls" who like MC :
静かな浜辺・元海賊アジト(ミリュウ)
フロアランス・マーガレット洋服店マーガレット
マイワールド(ハルワタート)
フロアランス・マーガレット洋服店ノルン
マイワールド(キャロル)
マイワールド(マリナ)
New chapter
Millie killing the harem
Also comic is out (https://comic-walker.com/contents/detail/KDCW_MF00000053010000_68/)
darkofficer
2017-11-21, 13:14
so all the work haru and carol did is now for nothing....
ShadowSamurai365
2017-11-21, 14:18
Unless I miss something, I seem to recall someone in this thread; saying how Miri going into that world was a good thing. Who was that again (although, I can guess....)?
Imouto is all you need :heh:
darkofficer
2017-11-21, 14:51
Imouto is all you need :heh:
screw that for this one i was rooting for carol now milli has ruined it
^Aah, you're Carol's fan
Not only she must ask permission from Haru, now she must ask's Millie's now too :(
Let's hope the girls survived coz right now they are being showered by Millie's thousand dark blades :heh:
ShadowSamurai365
2017-11-21, 21:29
Does anyone know what's the current stats of Ichino and the girls at?
Waks! The harem is killing each other :eek:
There's 4-koma manga
https://i.imgur.com/rqRWJHF.png
darkofficer
2017-11-24, 11:59
so lili actually ruins averything
^Mili yo~
She makes this much more interesting~
Even Pionia and Shiina fought each other :D
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