Knight's & Magic

[arkhangelsk]

I like the fact that no one on his side is trying to undermind our MC, he is able to win over his doubters and that is so fresh. Seems like every movie, anime, TV has someone that resents the MC for being better and goes out of their way to try to destroy them, instead he wins everyone over

Me too, this is a very pleasant show to watch all the way - it is very well optimized to actually work with the Gary Stu protagonist.

[~Yami~]

even though the match totally looks like Gundam vs Zaku unit, the battle showed that Ernesti is not capable to make mass-produced units

King Ambrosius took note of this and use Ernesti's talent in correct way

even though everything looks rushed, they made it become enjoyable
no one simply wanted to see too many physics, mechanics stuff so it is a good thing that they skip the process and showed the result

[LevelSeven]

ep7

ok, the ending of the battle with the old man looking at the mechas...somehow this anime makes me more interested in mechas as a whole as well :eek: i wont watch tons of mechas now but i somehow get the feeling of mecha-lovers, the models in this episode really looked great!

oh, and the battle between granpa and grandchild was really coooool :D

[zztop]

Very intrigued by that too. Always loved & love white-haired anime characters, especially female.

Then again, it might just be Ernesti's mom. She's white-haired and hot to boot, I kinda miss her.

All I can say is, that's not Ernesti's mom. Saying any more than that is a big spoiler.

[ars89]

Mt assumption for who the lady was at the end is that it might be someone form the "village" that the king mentioned to Olver.

[arkhangelsk]

even though the match totally looks like Gundam vs Zaku unit, the battle showed that Ernesti is not capable to make mass-produced units

King Ambrosius took note of this and use Ernesti's talent in correct way

even though everything looks rushed, they made it become enjoyable
no one simply wanted to see too many physics, mechanics stuff so it is a good thing that they skip the process and showed the result

Yes, and one thing this LN actually manages to avoid doing is the good old Adults are Useless (or even missing) trope. Smart and talented as the children are, the adults here have their own prominent roles and work well with the children. Awww...

[alex_drian]

mmm The next arc with the ahite-haired woman is anime original or is in the LN?

[kari-no-sugata II]

mmm The next arc with the ahite-haired woman is anime original or is in the LN?

It's from the LN. They might blow through the next arc in 1 episode though, or at least most of it...

[PreSage]

Looks like we may finally see Ernesti's custom Silhouette Knight next ep! I've been waiting to see that mech since the OP in ep 1! Interesting that they never showed him actually working on his personal Knight.

...and am I the only one that keeps getting "King of the Jungle" vibe whenever that grandson Prince shows up? :heh:

[zztop]

Ep 8 preview, Secret & Quest.
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JP Wiki page for Knights says the anime will have 13 eps released in 3 Blurays in October, December & February 2018.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%83%84%26%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B8%E 3%83%83%E3%82%AF

Vol 1 - 2017年10月27日予定
第1話 - 第4話

Vol 2 - 2017年12月22日予定
第5話 - 第8話

Vol 3 - 2018年2月23日予定
第9話 - 第13話

4 eps each in Vols 1-2, 5 eps for Vol 3.
Likely the anime will cover 5 LNs in 13 eps, like Danmachi and Akashic Records.

Bluray 1 is priced at 12000 yen (~USD110) and will have audio commentary by director Yamamoto Yusuke and the VAs for Ernie (Takahashi Rie), Addy(Ohashi Ayaka) and Chid(Sugawara Shinsuke).
http://knights-magic.com/bd/

[Kurapica]

I love this series so much.

The battle between the Academy and Ernie's troups wasnt as onesided as i wouldve thought but it was clear that Ernie's models are on another level. Both sides showed their merit and have the drive to be even better in the future.

I absolutely loved the duel between the King and the Prince for the Golden unit. It was even better than Ernies fights. Everyone is showing such great spirit. I almost feel bad for secretly hoping some powerful foe is coming to gatecrash their party. :)

[felix]

Great episode.

Although some of the "greatness" is how straight forward it is compared to regular shows, I'm enjoying the ride very much. The structure of the episodes does make me wonder if this was at some point designed as a 10min show, since it's so fast it gives the impression I'm watching two episodes story/arc wise.

Also, based on the Alfs appearance and the dialog with the sleeping queen, this may just me but it feels like Ernesti is actually half Alf or [some-part] Alf at least.

[sasabit]

I'm pretty sure the queen just figured out Eru wasn't part of their world, I doubt he is alvish in any way

[PreSage]

Great episode.

Although some of the "greatness" is how straight forward it is compared to regular shows, I'm enjoying the ride very much. The structure of the episodes does make me wonder if this was at some point designed as a 10min show, since it's so fast it gives the impression I'm watching two episodes story/arc wise.

Also, based on the Alfs appearance and the dialog with the sleeping queen, this may just me but it feels like Ernesti is actually half Alf or [some-part] Alf at least.

I'm pretty sure the queen just figured out Eru wasn't part of their world, I doubt he is alvish in any way

I also briefly suspected Ernesti to be part Alf (though it's unlikely) but how can the Queen suspect he isn't part of this world when he was originally born into this world, albeit with remnants of his previous life's memory.

The monster crystal as fuel reminds me of the dragon's heart from Escaflowne.

Unless I missed it but they didn't really explain how Ernesti was able to make the reactor stone malleable when he doesn't have the same powers as the Alf. From what I saw, it looked like he somehow channeled the same power from the monster crystals that fuel the Knights?

[Magewolf]

I also briefly suspected Ernesti to be part Alf (though it's unlikely) but how can the Queen suspect he isn't part of this world when he was originally born into this world, albeit with remnants of his previous life's memory.

The monster crystal as fuel reminds me of the dragon's heart from Escaflowne.

Unless I missed it but they didn't really explain how Ernesti was able to make the reactor stone malleable when he doesn't have the same powers as the Alf. From what I saw, it looked like he somehow channeled the same power from the monster crystals that fuel the Knights?

It looked like he was using his armor as a waldo to manipulate the mithril. So I guess he was using tools to do it instead of doing it by hand.

[IceHism]

I wonder if using such a powerful catalyst will be equivalent to basically the nuclear reactors in the freedom and justice in seed? Would be interesting to see if his mech will have infinite mana or something like that.

[sasabit]

I also briefly suspected Ernesti to be part Alf (though it's unlikely) but how can the Queen suspect he isn't part of this world when he was originally born into this world, albeit with remnants of his previous life's memory.

The monster crystal as fuel reminds me of the dragon's heart from Escaflowne.

Unless I missed it but they didn't really explain how Ernesti was able to make the reactor stone malleable when he doesn't have the same powers as the Alf. From what I saw, it looked like he somehow channeled the same power from the monster crystals that fuel the Knights?

She is old asf and probably the wisest among the alves so she may have met another reincarnator. Even if that's not the case I'm still sure she's seen enough shit to see through him, if she doesn't have some kind of magic to do that already. Judging by Eru's surprised reaction and not confused by her mumbo-jumbo, he knew what she was talking about when she said he knew different laws than the other humans.

[zztop]

It looked like he was using his armor as a waldo to manipulate the mithril. So I guess he was using tools to do it instead of doing it by hand.

That's correct. The LNs also mention the process is extremely tiring and cumbersome even for Ernie, since he's still only human. It took nearly a full year for him to handcraft the 2 reactors.

[ReddyRedWolf]

She is old asf and probably the wisest among the alves so she may have met another reincarnator. Even if that's not the case I'm still sure she's seen enough shit to see through him, if she doesn't have some kind of magic to do that already. Judging by Eru's surprised reaction and not confused by her mumbo-jumbo, he knew what she was talking about when she said he knew different laws than the other humans.

Maybe the guy or gal that came up with the idea of Silhouette Knights?:heh:

Once they said they can manipulate Mithril because they have magic crystals Ernie already knew how to bypass that problem.

As Ernie said they already use rods that have crystals for everyday use. It is not out of the question Silhouette Gears also use them as it requires Mana usage. With miniaturized Magius engines it makes it easier though Ernie on his own is probably more efficient.

If the village is the only source of Ether Reactor production that means either Fremevilla exports Ether Reactors or they are stolen by other countries over the centuries.

Fremevilla is a super power but it doesn't take over other countries as it is busy protecting the rest of humanity, dwarves and Alvs. Their Elves are different.

Oh Ernie should write a treatise on how to take down a Fort class. That is twice he took them down due to piercing and electrifying their brain stems.

[zztop]

Eru introduces gunpla models to the world!
http://i.imgur.com/4LNYZmk.png

[alex_drian]

OMG, Ikagura is beautiful

And I like the idea of the mecha-chariot

[Anh_Minh]

I expected the elves (or Alvs) to be more elf-like, rather than rabbit-eared.

Also, when did the Order of the Silver Phoenix get so big?

I wonder if Ernesti's going to look for excuses to hunt more big magic beasts?

[ReddyRedWolf]

Also, when did the Order of the Silver Phoenix get so big?


Three years and more went by. Ernesti, Addy, Kid and Bat should be highschoolers now.

Also Edgar and Nora had noticeable growth spurts. Only Ernesti remains fun size.:heh:

They recruited from the lower years for Knighsmiths and High School for Knight Runners.

Oh the mob dwarf girl knightsmith finally speaks!

[zztop]

I expected the elves (or Alvs) to be more elf-like, rather than rabbit-eared.

Also, when did the Order of the Silver Phoenix get so big?

I wonder if Ernesti's going to look for excuses to hunt more big magic beasts?

LN describes the elves as having the typical pointed ears.
Rabbit ear elves here are an anime-original design; anime staff is being creative. :heh:

[James Rye]

Knights on speed, like every episode is a timeskip but Ernie stays eternal trap. Now he can even make his own ether cores using a mecha-tech/mage hybrid for the Life Song. This boy is doing all those revolutions for his hobby, damn!!! Even in front of Queenie BigTitsaf he still goes on and on about robots and looks like he is about to die out of happiness to finally get to know the secrets no human has any use/can't live long enough and he learns all their secrets in 3 months and creates a way to make an ether reactor all by himself.
FOR HIS HOBBY!!!

[Faux Mecha]

am i the only one here who keeps mispronouncing the Alvs as 'Elvis'? :heh:

[zztop]

Concept art for the mecha cockpits featured in Knights:
https://twitter.com/TENJIN_hidetaka/media

Note how Ernie's pre-Ikaruga cockpits come with booster padding on the chairs and pedals on account of his small size.
Also not how some art dates back to Jan-Feb 2017. There was a lot of preparation leading up to Summer.

[Anh_Minh]

Three years and more went by. Ernesti, Addy, Kid and Bat should be highschoolers now.

Since the mock battle? How long did the prince and former king sit on their mechs, since it was their first battle?

[Side-streetdog]

They really rush, Queen battle not even proper half episode.
War arc already in next episode, I wondered where this season will end.

[RDNexus]

It seems said War Arc spans across LN4&5, which means the adaptation may go up to Vol05.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Since the mock battle? How long did the prince and former king sit on their mechs, since it was their first battle?

Kid and Addy's big sister was third year middle school when they were first years. After the mech stealing incident she graduated making them second years. The prep time for the mock battle was ten months i guess some overlap with third year middle school. After the mock battle they graduate some months later. It was months later the ex-king asked Ernie for a mech as they made MP version of Tzen and the Lab made the Karadatolle.

[John117xCortana]

Does the Queen know that he's not a 'local'?

[Faux Mecha]

i still think Ernie needs to come up with a nuke-scaled weapon to fight effectively against an entire continent-sized swarm of demons along with the Behemoth classes, except said nuke is entirely magic based & does not give out any radiation at all.

[felix]

i still think Ernie needs to come up with a nuke-scaled weapon to fight effectively against an entire continent-sized swarm of demons along with the Behemoth classes, except said nuke is entirely magic based & does not give out any radiation at all.Nuke scale weapons may be too much, better to not just have them at all in a sense.

On the other hand I wouldnt mind Ernie making himself a nice floating castle/carrier-ship.

I mean don't all mecha anime have those more or less?

[LevelSeven]

ep8

well well well, i must say, i got a little hyped for the 9th ep, i want to see MCs mecha :D

[Anh_Minh]

Kid and Addy's big sister was third year middle school when they were first years. After the mech stealing incident she graduated making them second years. The prep time for the mock battle was ten months i guess some overlap with third year middle school. After the mock battle they graduate some months later. It was months later the ex-king asked Ernie for a mech as they made MP version of Tzen and the Lab made the Karadatolle.

So when you said three years, you meant since the behemoth, not since the founding of the Order or since the mock battle?

[ReddyRedWolf]

So when you said three years, you meant since the behemoth, not since the founding of the Order or since the mock battle?

Closer to the Telestale was developed by the next arc. Note Ernie spent three months in the village. Time goes fast but he is still a chibi. I fear the Serati shotacon sisters may have cursed him.:uhoh::heh:

As said there are noticeable growth spurts with Edgar and Nora.

[zztop]

Ep 9 preview, Force & Justice.
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Airships (not made by Ernie), and the return of Kerhilt!

[felix]

Well damn! :heh:

At least now we know Ernie is definitely getting an airship.

[Kurapica]

Everything is moving so fast. I now just want a huge battle with a really threathening enemy.

[DemonneoPT]

Episode 9:

The animation was really cool. I have to admit but this series turned out to be way better than i expected. Sure, it's still rushed as hell and some characters still have that "cute" element (typicall from the current LN) i'm not really fan about but the story is really focused on the mechas and the evolution of it's magic and tech with all of the impact said evolution has in the world. One would expect such issues would be in the second plan to favor the usual harem bs and fanservice but surprisingly it's what the anime is all about!
If this had already a finished manga i would definitely read it!

[James Rye]

A bit sad we got so much mechas. I like it more when it got human armies and mechas mixed in it. But then again, the humans got nothing to tear down a mecha with. I mean, that trebuchet with the big stone? What a joke, a sad one. If they had magic cannons or magic rocket launchers, or mines or grenades, that would be a different talk but so they don't even have real artillery; they need mechas for that too.

Still great fights, albeit fast ones. Each episode feels like three put in one. I kinda wanna see the one who invented those flying ships, that guy or girl must be a genius similar to Ernie.

[FlameSparkZ]

A bit sad we got so much mechas. I like it more when it got human armies and mechas mixed in it. But then again, the humans got nothing to tear down a mecha with. I mean, that trebuchet with the big stone? What a joke, a sad one. If they had magic cannons or magic rocket launchers, or mines or grenades, that would be a different talk but so they don't even have real artillery; they need mechas for that too.

Still great fights, albeit fast ones. Each episode feels like three put in one. I kinda wanna see the one who invented those flying ships, that guy or girl must be a genius similar to Ernie.
The trebuchet was a pathetic attempt at trying to damage a mech. I wasn't expecting such a thing... :heh:

But it's an interestng development, vaguely foreshadowed when the "new" mechs made by Ernie were stolen.
I guess Zaloudek spent all this time studying the new technology, learned how to apply it, made a test prototype, and finally the mass-produced Tyranto.

...meanwhile, what did Ernie do? Man, they're in for quite a surprise :rolleyes:

[IceHism]

Looks like ernesti will either make some airships of his own or something to counter the flying ones. I wonder what we have in store for us. Nadesico? Yamato? White Base? Galactic Stardestroyers?

Nice fights. Though the enemies are really using outdated technology if we go by how fast ernesti can develop them.

[felix]

^ Ernie probably will make magic missiles. Or anti-mech sniper rifles.

Really liked Ikaruga this episode. Seems there's no issue with magic consumption either.

[4th Dimension]

Or will simply blast away into the skies on his mech because FUCK gravity, I have mana for days.

Also in this episode Ernesti finds his true calling, as a merchant...

A MERCHANT OF DEATH!

Which works on many levels.

Also merchants? Really? With a guy going around in a mech clearly designed for royalty?

I have to give props to the "evil bad dudes" and their dedication to making everything they make really tell EVERYONE that they are BAD DUDES. From hosting all their meetings during night (because fuck the cost of candles and fires), making sure their mechs use obviously evil names and spikes for days, having a deamon thing above the throne room that dominates the room and using red lighting on everything and even making the MOON above their castle RED.

In any case, it has been clear from the start that this franchise is more interesting in mecha porn about how the mechs operate and how they are used than ANYTHING else. So it's kinda the shame that the Anime tends to gloss over that too in it's mad dash through content.

[Anh_Minh]

What did Ernesti do to his sword to be able to cut through armor like that?

[4th Dimension]

Ehh, all the swords seem inexplicably able to cut through pretty much anything (including armor) that's not either a shield or a sword no matter the thickness of either.

Allthough I suspect the answer is either RIDICULOUS OBSCENE amounts of mana or some sort of magical shenanigans with his sword making it a POWER SWORD

[FlameSparkZ]

What did Ernesti do to his sword to be able to cut through armor like that?
Ehh, all the swords seem inexplicably able to cut through pretty much anything (including armor) that's not either a shield or a sword no matter the thickness of either.

Allthough I suspect the answer is either RIDICULOUS OBSCENE amounts of mana or some sort of magical shenanigans with his sword making it a POWER SWORD
Probably acceleration? Ikaruga does move at some insane speeds :heh:

[blakstealth]

Just started watching this. Man, that ED is so classic 8 bit lol. Really like the mech designs as well. Ikaruga's my fave.

[zztop]

Some background info from the LN on Martina, Zaloudek and the Phoenix "merchants".

-Emrys' motivation for getting involved is to rescue his Aunt Martina and cousins(the 2 princesses) from Zaloudek. Although his father, Leothamus, knew of the danger his sister was in and Zaloudek's long term threat to Fremevilla, he's also unwilling to drag the nation into an unwanted war and aompromise their demon beast defenses.
So, he recommended using the Silver Phoenixes as a special ops force to deal with the issues as necessary. The Silver Phoenixes operate as "merchants" so Fremevilla can claim plausible deniability if Zaloudek asks.

-Part of Zaloudek's strategy was to kill/capture the Kuschepercan royals and high nobles to cut down official resistance. They correctly guessed in the event Martina escaped, she'd likely seek refuge at the lands of Duke Fernando, her husband and King Augusti's brother. So they sent an advance force to capture the Duchy and kill Fernando to cut off Martina's escape.

- The Cristobal - Eleonora wedding is a political one to further strengthen Zaloudek's grip on Kuscheperca. Cristobal doesn't like his sister's plan, but is willing to go along with it for their greater good.

PS. The Zaloudek castle and throne room looks evil as hell. Was Satan the architect? :heh:

[Vaans]

Ikaruga is finally in operation and what a great time to see its potential more is by saving a princess.

Pacing seems...odd. Thankfully, someone shared what the anime cut out from the LN which explains a lot. I need to check the light novel thread for some spoilers.

[alex_drian]

What did Ernesti do to his sword to be able to cut through armor like that?

Seems a plasma blade


I have to give props to the "evil bad dudes" and their dedication to making everything they make really tell EVERYONE that they are BAD DUDES. From hosting all their meetings during night (because fuck the cost of candles and fires), making sure their mechs use obviously evil names and spikes for days, having a deamon thing above the throne room that dominates the room and using red lighting on everything and even making the MOON above their castle RED.

Yeah, when you put it like that is funny.


When they throw a rock at the mecha seriously I laughed, I was like "men, fucking seriously?", probably the pilot too.

[Polarpew]

Jeez, they seriously overdid it with the whole "EVIL" Nation thing. In the novels they weren't that extreme. Second prince was battle crazy but wasn't such a douche like in this episode. He even said he didnt like the princess since she's such a wuss in the novel, not like here where he's all sadist +100%

^ Ernie probably will make magic missiles. Or anti-mech sniper rifles.

Really liked Ikaruga this episode. Seems there's no issue with magic consumption either.

something that's always bugged me, are the demon cores used an infinite energy resource? For that matter where the heck is the other countries getting their ether reactors from? An alternative source or they all have their version of reclusive bunny-elves?

[Wandering Soul]

O
I have to give props to the "evil bad dudes" and their dedication to making everything they make really tell EVERYONE that they are BAD DUDES. From hosting all their meetings during night (because fuck the cost of candles and fires), making sure their mechs use obviously evil names and spikes for days, having a deamon thing above the throne room that dominates the room and using red lighting on everything and even making the MOON above their castle RED.

In any case, it has been clear from the start that this franchise is more interesting in mecha porn about how the mechs operate and how they are used than ANYTHING else. So it's kinda the shame that the Anime tends to gloss over that too in it's mad dash through content.

Yeah, while watching the only thing I could think was "Wow, they really want you to know that this nation is evil".

[Master_Yoma]

Well that country fell really fast and they didnt think at all about how to get the princess out at well the main road not very smart of them

[zztop]

Well that country fell really fast and they didnt think at all about how to get the princess out at well the main road not very smart of them

They thought the Duchy they were running to was safe. They didn't expect the enemy to conquer it beforehand and set a trap.
Plus the airships and new tech is more powerful then Kuscheperca's stuff.

[Convoy]

Things are finally getting interesting.

[FlameSparkZ]

something that's always bugged me, are the demon cores used an infinite energy resource?
I haven't read the light novel, so I'm just going with the info provided in the anime, combined with a bit of deduction :heh:

An Ether Reactor acts as an artificial organ with a demon's core (Catalyst Crystal) as its main component. It takes in Ether from the air, converts it into Mana and stores it, which serves as an energy source.

The bigger the demon's core, the better, but it's also harder to fine-tune and make it into an efficient power source...and Ikaruga has the two cores from the giant demon beasts. :eyespin:

Pretty sure last week's episode explained how they work.

For that matter where the heck is the other countries getting their ether reactors from? An alternative source or they all have their version of reclusive bunny-elves?
I'd say...the latter? :heh:

[zztop]

Recap manga of Ep 8:
http://i.imgur.com/sa41V65.png

Ika-chan is a great mecha nickname - de geso!

For that matter where the heck is the other countries getting their ether reactors from? An alternative source or they all have their version of reclusive bunny-elves?

This is never addressed in the LNs; it's a rather big hole in the world building.

[LoweGear]

Recap manga of Ep 8:
http://i.imgur.com/sa41V65.png

Ika-chan is a great mecha nickname - de geso!



Well it does have multiple arms :heh:

[4th Dimension]

This is never addressed in the LNs; it's a rather big hole in the world building.
Also the fact that the westerners consider the dudes that all they do is constantly fight using their mechs to keep monstrosities at bay as incompetent at using them?!?! And where are the westerners getting the experience when not at war?

I think the thing with ethel reactors is what they are made off, which allows an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE denser magical code inscription.

[zztop]

Also the fact that the westerners consider the dudes that all they do is constantly fight using their mechs to keep monstrosities at bay as incompetent at using them?!?! And where are the westerners getting the experience when not at war?

I think the thing with ethel reactors is what they are made off, which allows an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE denser magical code inscription.

It's implied some westerners take Fremevilla's role for granted. Like in Vol 2 during the Telestale theft, Zaloudek tells Kerhilt to steal the mechs since "monster exterminators don't deserve to use such amazing tech; only we can put it to its proper use".

[Sinestra]

Damn that escalated quickly they really want viewers to hate this empire. They have literally no redeeming quality. But it seems although hey able to recreate back weapons and strand crystal they dont have much imagination with the rest of their units. But they do have flying ships so that alone gives them a huge one up. Having air power makes all the lesser nations basically fodder. Castle walls dont mean shit now.

[Faux Mecha]

using a primitive trebuchet against super advanced magic powered mechs, whoever gave that order thinks they are heroes of legend that does not use common sense, :heh:

the so called "evil-looking" Zaloudek architecture is more in line with the old school Super Robot anime villains, than say whatever faction is seen in a Gundam series, unless you count their weapons & Mobile Suit design being "demonic-spikey-alien-monster-mutant" so the protagonists can beat the crap out of the things without feeling sorry because they lacked human features despite being a humanoid robot,

i wait for somebody to replace the Zaloudek SK army cheering in front of their king with "Sieg Zeon!!" or "all hail Britannia!!"

[4th Dimension]

It's implied some westerners take Fremevilla's role for granted. Like in Vol 2 during the Telestale theft, Zaloudek tells Kerhilt to steal the mechs since "monster exterminators don't deserve to use such amazing tech; only we can put it to its proper use".
Sure, that is an explanation but it never rung true with me. The Frewateverians don't seem to have significantly lower tech things and unlike the westerners they have a REALL interest in maintaining and having best Knights because literally their lives depend on it. Unlike the Westerners who really only need them for skirmishing with one another.

Damn that escalated quickly they really want viewers to hate this empire. They have literally no redeeming quality. But it seems although hey able to recreate back weapons and strand crystal they dont have much imagination with the rest of their units. But they do have flying ships so that alone gives them a huge one up. Having air power makes all the lesser nations basically fodder. Castle walls dont mean shit now.
Ehhh, the airforce as shown is only superior because this is fiction. Those things don't seem to move that quickly, don't seem to fly that quickly as such there is 0 reason for them not to be target table by ground based long ranged weapons and be hit AS easily as a behemoth. And they would fall out of the sky MUCH more easily than a behemoth since they probably can't be carrying loads of armor.
On top of it all their main weapon, the MAGICAL Knight drop requires them to be moving slow enough and low enough right over the target to drop them off. Which again makes them prime target.

The reason aircraft are problematic for engagement from the ground is
A) because they are quick and maneuverable, making getting a bead on them difficult.
B) this manouverability makes it possible for them to pick approaches and be over the target before it can react
C) planes can fly so high that specific AA (both rocket and cannon based) can have trouble lobbing their projectiles high enough in gravity and with air resistance to hit the target.

None of these are actually true for those airships. They aren't that quick or maneuverable, they are large relatively slow moving loud targets and most importantly magic projectiles probably have no mass and therefore don't suffer gravity problems.

[Magewolf]

Sure, that is an explanation but it never rung true with me. The Frewateverians don't seem to have significantly lower tech things and unlike the westerners they have a REALL interest in maintaining and having best Knights because literally their lives depend on it. Unlike the Westerners who really only need them for skirmishing with one another.


Ehhh, the airforce as shown is only superior because this is fiction. Those things don't seem to move that quickly, don't seem to fly that quickly as such there is 0 reason for them not to be target table by ground based long ranged weapons and be hit AS easily as a behemoth. And they would fall out of the sky MUCH more easily than a behemoth since they probably can't be carrying loads of armor.
On top of it all their main weapon, the MAGICAL Knight drop requires them to be moving slow enough and low enough right over the target to drop them off. Which again makes them prime target.

The reason aircraft are problematic for engagement from the ground is
A) because they are quick and maneuverable, making getting a bead on them difficult.
B) this manouverability makes it possible for them to pick approaches and be over the target before it can react
C) planes can fly so high that specific AA (both rocket and cannon based) can have trouble lobbing their projectiles high enough in gravity and with air resistance to hit the target.

None of these are actually true for those airships. They aren't that quick or maneuverable, they are large relatively slow moving loud targets and most importantly magic projectiles probably have no mass and therefore don't suffer gravity problems.

Actually they drop the mechs at the very limit of the range of the magic attacks. So they only come under attack for the few seconds they are doing that and after that they can float along as slowly as they want since nothing can reach them. They make any kind of fortifications useless since they can bypass walls and they can just move their forces to take advantage of weak points at will.

[Sinestra]

Sure, that is an explanation but it never rung true with me. The Frewateverians don't seem to have significantly lower tech things and unlike the westerners they have a REALL interest in maintaining and having best Knights because literally their lives depend on it. Unlike the Westerners who really only need them for skirmishing with one another.


Ehhh, the airforce as shown is only superior because this is fiction. Those things don't seem to move that quickly, don't seem to fly that quickly as such there is 0 reason for them not to be target table by ground based long ranged weapons and be hit AS easily as a behemoth. And they would fall out of the sky MUCH more easily than a behemoth since they probably can't be carrying loads of armor.
On top of it all their main weapon, the MAGICAL Knight drop requires them to be moving slow enough and low enough right over the target to drop them off. Which again makes them prime target.

The reason aircraft are problematic for engagement from the ground is
A) because they are quick and maneuverable, making getting a bead on them difficult.
B) this manouverability makes it possible for them to pick approaches and be over the target before it can react
C) planes can fly so high that specific AA (both rocket and cannon based) can have trouble lobbing their projectiles high enough in gravity and with air resistance to hit the target.

None of these are actually true for those airships. They aren't that quick or maneuverable, they are large relatively slow moving loud targets and most importantly magic projectiles probably have no mass and therefore don't suffer gravity problems.

Yes i agree. But the problem is no one else has them. As such no one would even know how to deal with them. When a new weapon is deployed on the battlefield the first thing the opposition needs to do is to create counter measures. But right now the only person capable of comprehending something to counter them would be Erine. I mean we have a kingdom that thought it was a good idea to use a catapult to shoot at Knightrunner. Walls and any other fortification are useless now they can just fly over them and drop Knightrunners and since no current projectiles can reach them they are safe after they drop. That changes the balance of power and the very nature of combat which has been the same it seems for thousands of years. At this point you would need AA turrets on castle walls to keep them away. I actually want to see the explanation for how they created these airships especially the power source. I am sure Erine would love to shoot one down and reverse engineer it.

[4th Dimension]

Ehhh, as far as anime shows it they pretty much have to be almost right at the top of the drop point, since those mechs don't seem equipped to do the deceleration on their own so they need to be dropped relatively close to the ground. And even if you could drop them from higher, you will still not get that much of a range. They should be WELL within the firing range of mech staves well before the drop.

While this might allow you to drop your forces wherever, now that any potential enemy is probably aware of this (unless their intelligence utterly sucks or they have somehow imprisoned most of the population of the capitol) there are ways of countering what are essentially paratroopers with near equal mechs of your own. While paras can land in your rear, they are ALSO then instantly incircled by the enemy. If the landing operation does not provide an instant win but is faced by stiff resistance they are quite likely fucked.
Not to mention that you should be loosing ships in each such drop that comes over a defended position. And those seem quite a bit more expensive than random ass mechs.

But this is fiction so they will probably be treated as invulnerable "air force" that the mechs on the ground FOR SOME REASON can't hit even though they aren't moving or maneuvering that much as seen in the latest episode where Eru's forces kept missing them for some reason.

[4th Dimension]

Yes i agree. But the problem is no one else has them. As such no one would even know how to deal with them. When a new weapon is deployed on the battlefield the first thing the opposition needs to do is to create counter measures. But right now the only person capable of comprehending something to counter them would be Erine. I mean we have a kingdom that thought it was a good idea to use a catapult to shoot at Knightrunner. I actually want to see the explanation for how they created these airships especially the power source. I am sure Erine would love to shoot one down and reverse engineer it.
Yeah, as a shock weapon first time they are introduced they WILL seem as invulnerable. Also it will not help that there aren't that many that have faced them and lived. But unless EVERYONE on the continent is dumb, all other nations will quickly start thinking REAL hard how to counter them. Now most of these plans might not work, but some will, and they shouldn't remain an invulnerable weapon for long. Especially as I say because they allready HAVE the weapons to fight them. It's just the matter of tactics.

The bigger problem are large amounds of new Eru pattern mechs than the silly airships.

Catapult to me frankly seemed like a desperation move. They had it there and were throwing everything they could at the enemy they did not expect.

I heard from guys that read the LNs that they actually use levitation magic and such rather than Eru's brute force "blast yourself up by the force of AIR BURSTS (EXPLOSIONS)" way of flight.

[Anh_Minh]

Sure, that is an explanation but it never rung true with me. The Frewateverians don't seem to have significantly lower tech things and unlike the westerners they have a REALL interest in maintaining and having best Knights because literally their lives depend on it. Unlike the Westerners who really only need them for skirmishing with one another.

But that's the thing: they train to fight dumb beasts. Very strong beasts with magic powers, but dumb beasts anyway. The other guys train to fight people.

(I agree with you on how plot-armored those airships are, though.)

[4th Dimension]

But that's the thing: they train to fight dumb beasts. Very strong beasts with magic powers, but dumb beasts anyway. The other guys train to fight people.

(I agree with you on how plot-armored those airships are, though.)
You do have a point there. On the other hand combat experience is combat experience.

You can train all your life and still shit your pants in terror in actual combat once somebody actually starts coming for your head. Like Guair's pilot did in the Behemoth fight.

And they mostly seem to train to fight other SKs as far as it was shown.

[Anh_Minh]

That makes me think: even if other countries have their own Hidden Elf Villages, where do they get monster crystals to make the Reactors with? Does Fremmvilla really supply everyone? Is it all their fault?

[Magewolf]

That makes me think: even if other countries have their own Hidden Elf Villages, where do they get monster crystals to make the Reactors with? Does Fremmvilla really supply everyone? Is it all their fault?

The elves said they mostly used mined crystals because they were more uniform and easy to work with. They did not say where the mines were so they might be in the west or there could be mines all over.

[arkhangelsk]

Jeez, they seriously overdid it with the whole "EVIL" Nation thing. In the novels they weren't that extreme. Second prince was battle crazy but wasn't such a douche like in this episode. He even said he didnt like the princess since she's such a wuss in the novel, not like here where he's all sadist +100%

This anime has clearly gone for the lighthearted, simple route from the start. To do this, it is easiest if the enemy is pretty purely black, so they can be sliced and diced and we won't feel the least bit of sympathy for them. The novel might have gone for a "deeper" route.

The airships are a fine example of how a country that does not have to spend most of its free budget on real, operational needs can gain an edge - they can afford to divert funds to do some basic research and come up with something which requires a different set of engineering. How did NO ONE find out about that fleet of airships, though?

[~Yami~]

I'm just glad that this is children-friendly anime... I feels little bit worried about the princess and her companions after all
My guess is the princess might marry the "young master"... and I'm cheering for the servant to fall in love to Ernesti

putting that aside, the kingdom should already know about the invasion since 2 big kingdom already fell in just several days
I wonder why they told Order of Silver Phoenix + young master to deal with this serious business
too bad they couldn't finish the commander though... usually second meeting would be tougher

[zztop]

This anime has clearly gone for the lighthearted, simple route from the start. To do this, it is easiest if the enemy is pretty purely black, so they can be sliced and diced and we won't feel the least bit of sympathy for them. The novel might have gone for a "deeper" route.

The airships are a fine example of how a country that does not have to spend most of its free budget on real, operational needs can gain an edge - they can afford to divert funds to do some basic research and come up with something which requires a different set of engineering. How did NO ONE find out about that fleet of airships, though?

The LNs also use the lighthearted simple route. The enemy's pretty black there too, although the anime's exaggerating some parts (ex. super-evil castle).

[4th Dimension]

Ehh the young master isn't marrying her (unless you meant Eru) since he is like her cousin. The sister of the old king I think married the conquered country I think.

And their "secret" mission is to extract the family from the conquered country.

Also Eru has pretty much constantly been characterized as someone not really caring for the human element behind the robots as long as robots fight....

[~Yami~]

Ehh the young master isn't marrying her (unless you meant Eru) since he is like her cousin. The sister of the old king I think married the conquered country I think.

And their "secret" mission is to extract the family from the conquered country.

Also Eru has pretty much constantly been characterized as someone not really caring for the human element behind the robots as long as robots fight....

oh really? I thought she is a random princess from neighboring kingdom so they would be a perfect couple instead :heh:
Eru is only matched with stubborn girl like Addy or the princess' servant

[Faux Mecha]

considering Ernie's technological advancements that he puts effort into building new SK units due to his obsession, makes me wonder why he did not build something simple first: a freaking car!!, i mean the people there still uses horse drawn carriage, would it hurt for Ernie to put his mini magical engines of his power suits in a wheeled vehicle? maybe he wasn't much of an automobile enthusiast, just all freaking mechs. :heh:

[4th Dimension]

oh really? I thought she is a random princess from neighboring kingdom so they would be a perfect couple instead :heh:
Eru is only matched with stubborn girl like Addy or the princess' servant
If you asked him he would probably say that his ideal partner is his mech. Dude pretty much only sees mechs meching things.

maybe he wasn't much of an automobile enthusiast, just all freaking mechs. :heh:
You pretty much answered it yourself. If it's not mech he is not interested. Recall his comment from during the behemoth fight "Only robots are supposed to kill other robots". He would consider using anything but mechs to do things as cheating, because in his opinion the mechs are the pinnacle of human civilization.

[Anh_Minh]

Ehh the young master isn't marrying her (unless you meant Eru) since he is like her cousin. The sister of the old king I think married the conquered country I think.
Eh, marriage between related royalty isn't uncommon.

Besides, if I got it right (which may well not be the case), the older redhead is Fremvilla's king's sister, and wife of the conquered king, but not the blond princess' birth mother. The younger redhead is her daughter, and the blond's half-sister. (Which is why crazy Prince threatened to marry her instead.)

The point is, the "young master" and the blond princess aren't actually first cousins by blood.

[tsunade666]

The redhead is the sister of the king of FremV but her husband is the brother of the dead king of conquered country. The place they are fleeing to are her husband territory, I think its east side of the conquered country. The duke's land.

[4th Dimension]

Eh, marriage between related royalty isn't uncommon.

Besides, if I got it right (which may well not be the case), the older redhead is Fremvilla's king's sister, and wife of the conquered king, but not the blond princess' birth mother. The younger redhead is her daughter, and the blond's half-sister. (Which is by crazy Prince threatened to marry her instead.)

The point is, the "young master" and the blond princess aren't actually first cousins by blood.

I don't think the Anime went into this AT ALL so all of my info is from third parties.

Ah yes. The annoying princess is indeed not related to the "young master".

The older redhead is married to the brother of the Princess's father. I think this brother is the "Duke Fernando" where they were trying to flee. So the girls are cousins. The older redhead is indeed as you say the daughter of the old Fremwhateveria's king, and therefore she is aunt to the young master and her daughter is his cousin.

Yes cousins marrying isn't really an odd thing for royalty, and god knows Anime did even worse things... but we all know that Eru being a Marty Sue will probably be having her swoon after him, unsuccessfully since he is only interested in robots.

PS: DAMN ninja'd :)

[alex_drian]

Is a good that this not the type of story about everybody blame to Ernesti for make the original prototype that somehow started this mess. I always think that is a shit writing.

Tremble before the King Carlitos! lol, I spit a little.

[4th Dimension]

There is no reason to blame him. Unless somebody wants to go down the idiotic path OH NOES THIS IS TOO DANGEROUS AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVENTED. But he is specifically inventing weapons of war. Weapons of war by the very definition bring destruction and death.

[Anh_Minh]

This anime has clearly gone for the lighthearted, simple route from the start. To do this, it is easiest if the enemy is pretty purely black, so they can be sliced and diced and we won't feel the least bit of sympathy for them. The novel might have gone for a "deeper" route.

The airships are a fine example of how a country that does not have to spend most of its free budget on real, operational needs can gain an edge - they can afford to divert funds to do some basic research and come up with something which requires a different set of engineering. How did NO ONE find out about that fleet of airships, though?

That's because in addition to being the only ones with an R&D budget, they're also the only ones with an intelligence service. (Fremvilla has one overworked young girl.)

[4th Dimension]

Ehhh, Efremveltajfians also have dedicated institutions to Mecha engineering. It's just that developing new Knights, that is discovering how to improve is pretty hit and miss so it takes time.

[arkhangelsk]

You pretty much answered it yourself. If it's not mech he is not interested. Recall his comment from during the behemoth fight "Only robots are supposed to kill other robots". He would consider using anything but mechs to do things as cheating, because in his opinion the mechs are the pinnacle of human civilization.

Another realistic reason is that they don't have the engineering base to build cars. Ernesti is pretty bright and he is adding a lot to mecha design, BUT he is still working off an established base which gives him a lot of the basics. That engineering base is just nonexistent for cars and trucks.

[The 48th Ronin]

Tremble before the King Carlitos! lol, I spit a little.

He hates people that don't want to be cool. :heh: :p :D

[Chosen_Hero]

Another realistic reason is that they don't have the engineering base to build cars. Ernesti is pretty bright and he is adding a lot to mecha design, BUT he is still working off an established base which gives him a lot of the basics. That engineering base is just nonexistent for cars and trucks.

Take a carriage, then install a power source, it doesn't have to be as powerful as an SK core just enough for it to move. Then you install some sort of steering wheel and connect it to the front wheels, proceed to profit. I mean, it's not like japanese mecha jesus gary stu-kun comes from a world where cars exist or something, clearly making mechs, power suits and airships is so much easier and less complicated, especially if your hobby was building gunplas.:rolleyes::heh:

[LoweGear]

Take a carriage, then install a power source, it doesn't have to be as powerful as an SK core just enough for it to move. Then you install some sort of steering wheel and connect it to the front wheels, proceed to profit. I mean, it's not like japanese mecha jesus gary stu-kun comes from a world where cars exist or something, clearly making mechs, power suits and airships is so much easier and less complicated, especially if your hobby was building gunplas.:rolleyes::heh:

Well, Eru's driving motivation in life is MECHS MECHS MECHS, cars don't really appeal to him in that particular manner. Now, levitating airships do because that's one of things usually paired with mecha that he's only seen in reality now.

Basically, cars are in the been-there-seen-that-before zone.

[arkhangelsk]

Take a carriage, then install a power source, it doesn't have to be as powerful as an SK core just enough for it to move. Then you install some sort of steering wheel and connect it to the front wheels, proceed to profit. I mean, it's not like japanese mecha jesus gary stu-kun comes from a world where cars exist or something, clearly making mechs, power suits and airships is so much easier and less complicated, especially if your hobby was building gunplas.:rolleyes::heh:

Give the show a little credit. I know the time compression used in this show doesn't make it visceral, but Ernesti spent three years just learning how mechs were currently being built to the point he can incorporate some new elements onto what is a very well established basic mech frame. It took him years more to build up to the point he can build his Ikaruga. He's a genius and he's going unrealistically fast, but there is still a process involved. If he has to make a car, he'll have nothing to go on but two decade old memories of their basic shape.

[4th Dimension]

Eh. I don't think the material science is really a barrier to cars. Allthough makimg cars without access to rubber for wheels won't make them comfortable at all. Then again his mecha to me has quite a few flaws that tend to be ignored.
The real barrier to motorization us probably that all resources for engines are needed to make knights. And the fact that all roads seem atill at the level of dirt track which means they become basically impassable for wheeled transport in the rainy season.

And yeah he really doesn't care about them, this is after all the person who said that every family should have a mechs, and he doesn't, possibly, have time to use his reality bending MC powers to dedicate time to viehicles.

[Chosen_Hero]

Give the show a little credit. I know the time compression used in this show doesn't make it visceral, but Ernesti spent three years just learning how mechs were currently being built to the point he can incorporate some new elements onto what is a very well established basic mech frame. It took him years more to build up to the point he can build his Ikaruga. He's a genius and he's going unrealistically fast, but there is still a process involved. If he has to make a car, he'll have nothing to go on but two decade old memories of their basic shape.

Sorry but any credit I could give to this series disappeared the moment:

- Japanese kun was able to configure a mech in a few minutes.

- Said MC is able to create mech due to knowing how to code and make gunplas.

- When Ernie was schooling the very people whose job it is to make them damn things.

- The anime wants me to believe no engineer/mechanic in that world for 200 years (please correct me if I'm wrong on the years) even thought of improving on the SK, which is ludicrous considering that there was no one or rules to stop them from doing so. Seriously, it's unreal to believe that an arms race didn't happen during that time, especially considering how badly the giant turtle thing owned them, if THAT thing always existed there was no reason for them NOT to try experimenting improving them.

Besides, even if he is obsessed with mechs, he could have tried making other things from our world using that worlds magic and clearly advanced technology on the side as a way to fund his mecha research and development instead of going through such a roundabout way to get one. Instead all that happens is that the world literally bends itself over backwards to please him when it's most convenient.

[4th Dimension]

Oh Eru is Marty Sue EXTRAORDINAIRE and possibly even a writer insert. So I don't give an F about him, except in cases his blatant mecha mental issues are on display. I care more about mechs and such. Because I think the writer tried to make them plausible in how they work, well excepting the common mecha tropes of controlling 4 full motion limbs with two handles and pedals.

So in my mind I tend to replace the Marty Sue with a team of engineers or something.

Also yeah, 100% like you calling MAXIMUM BS on him decompiling the entire Mech OS after seeing it FOR THE FIRST TIME and then somehow using just basic commands to fight, and not only was he faster he was somehow more AGILE than anyone else. So yes utter BS.

But the rest, eehh while it's argument is not unassailable the franchise does have some things to defend Eru's performance design wise.

The show doesn't say that nobody tried making new mech in centuries, more that it takes that long to accumulate enough new things and optimizations to warrant creating an entirely new mech with different parts and such. Once the Fremeveliwhateverian mecha scholars get their hands on Eru's prototypes they pretty quickly get out improved variants that optimize things much better.

His two real improvements the fiber weaving and the siluethe arms really are things that others might not have thought of. Arms especially since for them the Robot is not a machine, but more just an upscaled knight, and since knights don't have more than two arms....

What IS BS also is him seemingly being AMAZING at magic surpassing his teachers or something. Sure, he was a genius level programmer on Earth, but programming shouldnt' at all be a new thing given that it's the basis of their magic and magic seems to be available pretty much to anyone willing to shell out the dosh for a staff and to learn. Given that it's BONKERS to think that their knowledge of magical programming would be inferior to his. It's like saying that because somebody is a genius graphical engine programmer, he would also be the same level genius right from the start if he switches to a completely different programming language/enviroment with alien syntax, he would instantly outshine the veteran programmers in that field. That is BS.

[arkhangelsk]

Sorry but any credit I could give to this series disappeared the moment:

- Japanese kun was able to configure a mech in a few minutes.

He was able to do that after spending years of using magic, including flying. On a conceptual level, there is no difference between him sending impulses to modify his flight spell so it takes him where he needs it to, and sending similar impulses to a magical drive so his mech's changes its motion.

Said MC is able to create mech due to knowing how to code and make gunplas.

If that's the case, he won't have to fight to put himself in Mecha class, did he? The previous experience gave him a heads up, but he still had to learn for years. His learning cycle is compressed, but there is still a learning cycle.

What IS BS also is him seemingly being AMAZING at magic surpassing his teachers or something. Sure, he was a genius level programmer on Earth, but programming shouldnt' at all be a new thing given that it's the basis of their magic and magic seems to be available pretty much to anyone willing to shell out the dosh for a staff and to learn.

While I'm basically just letting this show take me for the ride, if forced to process it, I'll say what he might have brought is a new way of looking at those same spells, more systematically than the norm. Just like you might find it easier to remember Chinese characters if you can sort them based on radicals and the like rather than trying to remember each as a "bitmap". His learning techniques are to a great extent teachable - that's why the twins also got well above their level in magic once Ernesti started teaching them.

[4th Dimension]

He was able to do that after spending years of using magic, including flying. On a conceptual level, there is no difference between him sending impulses to modify his flight spell so it takes him where he needs it to, and sending similar impulses to a magical drive so his mech's changes its motion.
Ehhh, as far as I understand his flying magic, he flies by pushing out gusts of air to propel himself. This isn't something utterly simple and requires "touch" that can only gained by training, but it still pales in comparison to manually operating the entire mech. When flying the only things he is manipulating is the dirrection of his wind blast and it's intensity. On the other had in that fight what it seems he was doing was basically manually issuing commands to every single servo in the mech. Despite never driving one ever. That's LOADS of commands and is computationally something we can't really do counciously and even our computers struggle with keeping robots balanced. At the verry least I would have expected him to face plant at least once to show he is getting a hand of it, but no, he is leaping running and jumping, performing feats of dexterity BEYOND the mech pilots who actually have computer support.
It's like jumping in the cockpit of a B1 flying wing bomber completely disengaging the computer support (without which flying wing designs are essentially death traps) and then taking the aircraft to the edge of it's envelope and beyond. Oh and you wouldn't be using the actual controls but would be making all inputs via a keyboard....

What would have made more sense to me if we want him to do ridiculous shit, would be that he has spent years developing another control system, potentially a VR one or something. It would still be ridiculous that he managed to do that in such short time, but would make more sense than operating it entirely manually.

While I'm basically just letting this show take me for the ride, if forced to process it, I'll say what he might have brought is a new way of looking at those same spells, more systematically than the norm. Just like you might find it easier to remember Chinese characters if you can sort them based on radicals and the like rather than trying to remember each as a "bitmap". His learning techniques are to a great extent teachable - that's why the twins also got well above their level in magic once Ernesti started teaching them.
The key problem is that magic is not something that is strange or new or obscure or limited to select few with ability. Magic seems to be usable by anyone with the tools and knowledge. Soo I find it unrealistic that there would be that much that he could contribute after studying magic for like couple of years, given that it has been studied for centuries freely by basically anyone who wanted to take a crack on it.

[Anh_Minh]

Yeah, I made the point that they've been programming robots for longer than we've been programming anything, but somehow programming knowledge from our world is a huge leg up.

At some point we've got to accept that the MC is super good at shit and just tune out the explanations - they never really make sense. (I don't mean that for K&M specifically.)

At least Smartphone's honest. The MC's super good at shit because God decided he would be.

[DemonneoPT]

Indeed, since the beginning i also said it made no sense for a programmer to suddenly become a super magitech engineer. It would be better if Erni was a genius from a future version of our world where advanced mechas were already possible but without the magic. Make him a cripple bound to a wheelchair or some exoskeleton suit (since it's the future we are talking here), where he was unable to pilot the mechas he loved so much but was still able to study, program and build them. Then, with a new healthy body in an alternative fantasy world, where magic was a real thing and already developed to some extent but the science behind building constructs was still lacking, he could use his superior mecha and overall scientific knowledge from the modern world and apply it to the magic components he has been studying in the school to stand out from the other students. That way he could still have the dream/motivation of piloting a mecha of his own and his achievements would actually make sense given Ernie's background. Or something like that to properly justify his isekai plot besides the usual wish fulfilment "i'm OP" just because.

[ScrewySquirrel]

Indeed, since the beginning i also said it made no sense for a programmer to suddenly become a super magitech engineer. It would be better if Erni was a genius from a future version of our world where advanced mechas were already possible but without the magic. Make him a cripple bound to a wheelchair or some exoskeleton suit (since it's the future we are talking here), where he was unable to pilot the mechas he loved so much but was still able to study, program and build them. Then, with a new healthy body in an alternative fantasy world, where magic was a real thing and already developed to some extent but the science behind building constructs was still lacking, he could use his superior mecha and overall scientific knowledge from the modern world and apply it to the magic components he has been studying in the school to stand out from the other students. That way he could still have the dream/motivation of piloting a mecha of his own and his achievements would actually make sense given Ernie's background. Or something like that to properly justify his isekai plot besides the usual wish fulfilment "i'm OP" just because.

Programmer redoing magic is an older trope. "The Wiz Biz" came from 1987. The general idea is that Programming is a relatively "New" science in our, more advanced society, so using programming to link with magic this represents a way no one else has looked at Magic in almost all of these kinds of stories. Program is basicaly breaking complex tasks down into VERY simple, repetitive routines, and rebuilding from that

[DemonneoPT]

Yes, but that does not justify half of the stuff he has been doing in the anime. It would be way more interesting if the author had built his story based solely on what the knowledge from an isekai character could do in a medival fantasy world. As it is right now, the best way to go along with this show is thinking Ernie is just a super genius that is not only making a revolution in the world but also able to achieve impossible feats just because, like the stuff some of the users have already pointed out in this thread. That's why i think the episodes where we see him building and testing the new mechas have been the best ones so far, while the ones we see him making solo kills or whatever the least interesting.

[zztop]

Preview for Ep10, War & Princess.
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Anime's website was been updated with designs for the Zaloudek characters.
http://knights-magic.com/character/

PS. I'd always imagined Horatio Collazo to look older and shabbier, so the creepy megane design's a surprise.
https://twitter.com/naitsuma_anime/status/903181337330302976/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fknights-magic.com%2F

[ReddyRedWolf]

The whole Kuschpercha invasion bored me in text and it bored me here too.

They skipped the meeting between King Leotamus and Emyrys. Fremevilla can't send their entire forces for war as demon beasts are their primary threat. Emyrys being a musclehead wants to go anyway to save his aunt and cousin. So Leotamus sends the Order of the Silver Phoenix and Azure Hawk knights as a covert force to rescue his sister and niece.

Just one thing he sent a blood knight (Ernesti) to support another (Emyrys). Oh those poor Zaloudek troops, they believed the tech used on their Tyrants was developed by Zaloudek on its own.

Kay Ernie appearing whenever Silhouette Knights are mentioned is like Goblin Slayer whenever goblins is uttered.

[4th Dimension]

snip.

Yeah there are a lot different ways this could have been handled... But then it wouldn't be going with the main concept of this, and that is...
Mecha-otaku ends up in another world with mechs
and this allowes a lot of mecha otaku's to consider Eru their insert....

[Anh_Minh]

Wow, Addie was super generous this week. She was about to share her hug pillow with the princess.

Also, looks like Ernie could have prevented a big war if he'd just crashed the ship he was on. Shot out the engines or something.

[blakstealth]

lmao those thieves were taken out in a matter of minutes.

[Fufufu]

A cool character (scar woman) just died in today episode

[blakstealth]

A cool character (scar woman) just died in today episodeIt's always a sad day when a pretty character dies.

[4th Dimension]

Wow, Addie was super generous this week. She was about to share her hug pillow with the princess.

Also, looks like Ernie could have prevented a big war if he'd just crashed the ship he was on.Shot out the engines or something.
No no no. That would have gotten in the way of him fanboying and gushing about it.
Also I am given the impression the Enemy!Eru (only of the Airship Otaku type (no he isn't another guy from another world)) was't even present in the original material, sooo him surviving this war pretty much given.

What I want to learn more is about his teleportation/trap door powers.

Not in the scene
https://i.imgur.com/4yIGNc4l.jpg

Not in the scene
https://i.imgur.com/BosXFUwl.jpg

Bwah, what.. wher.. where did you pop up from?!?!
https://i.imgur.com/qutL6a0l.jpg

[Anh_Minh]

No no no. That would have gotten in the way of him fanboying and gushing about it.
He could have fanboyed over the pieces. Which under the laws of "you break it, you own it", would have belonged to him. Turnabout for the theft of SK.


Also I am given the impression the Enemy!Eru (only of the Airship Otaku type (no he isn't another guy from another world)) was't even present in the original material, sooo him surviving this war pretty much given.

What I want to learn more is about his teleportation/trap door powers.

Not in the scene
https://i.imgur.com/4yIGNc4l.jpg

Not in the scene
https://i.imgur.com/BosXFUwl.jpg

Bwah, what.. wher.. where did you pop up from?!?!
https://i.imgur.com/qutL6a0l.jpg

Behind the captain's chair? Or behind the ladder.


Also: developing love triangle in the older trio?

[ReddyRedWolf]

Differences from the LN.

*They had a lot more people in Silhouette Gears. Nora and the Azure Hawk Knightsin your base silently killing your dudes.
*The royals weren't on a horse carriage but was on the Mech carriage.
*Ernie attacked the levitate ship severely damaging it. Wanting to take it apart to know how it works and take it home.
*Ernie was stopped because the Bronze Fang Knights attacked the convoy. Emyrys used Gordosleo for them to frak off.
*The inventor wasn't on the ship and had to get second hand account.
*The levitate ship limped as it encountered the levitate ship of the sword maniac who is the son of the one eye general.
*Leader of the Fang knights convinced the general not to commit seppuku till he gives intel to Zaloudek royals and redeem himself fighting the Grim Reaper group.
*Comedy: Emyrys saying they are not merchants to Ernie and they should do it for free. But his aunt's agreed to Ernie's terms so they'll not look like beggars.
*Silver Phoenix and Azure Knights harassing the Black Knights for day destroying their supplies to maintain their Tyrants and food before they encounter the new mechs.
*Silver Phoenix knightsmiths teaching their Kucheperan counterparts how speed up work using Gears.
*The Fang tried to kill Ernie in bed but Addy being with him blew the guy away. She has been sneaking to his bed. Fremevilla taught its people to be light sleepers because of the constant threat of demon beasts. There was another attempted kidnapping of the princess but was stopped by Kid.
*Oh yes the Fang leader got away. But all her troops were killed or caught.

[4th Dimension]

Behind the captain's chair? Or behind the ladder.
No? He somehow popps up from "below"? Where he wasn't moments before?....
https://i.imgur.com/5EXUXPpl.jpg
I could use some euphemisms to insinuate things buuuuuttt....

Also: developing love triangle in the older trio?
Triangle?

[John117xCortana]

Is the enemy spy lady in the anime dead or just unconscious?

[4th Dimension]

Supposedly dead. If not captured, but they don't mention. Last we see her in a wrecked burning mech with the non-running haired knight above her.

[Master_Yoma]

Well that was kind of easy of them to break those girls out even though it took Archid some it took some convincing to get the Princess to come

[ReddyRedWolf]

Well that was kind of easy of them to break those girls out even though it took Archid some it took some convincing to get the Princess to come

Yeah it is as if nobody has heard of magic.:heh:

Makes me think Fremevilla has more emphasis on Magic Combat due to the threat of Demon Beasts and the abundance of crystals.

The West probably has a limited amount of crystals going around.

[orion]

Is the enemy spy lady in the anime dead or just unconscious?

Well...her unit was impaled and thrown to the ground in a very violent manner. Her cockpit area has collapsed and blood is splattered on the back wall. She's prob dead.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Now we know what to tell future generations, who was that lady with the scar and her group of friends? No one son, just a wasted set of breasts and her reverse harem, even I felt unsatisfied with her end^^;;.

[PreSage]

If I was Kid, I would have knocked Eleonora right out and threw her in the cockpit instead of wasting my time listening to her nonsense. She is one of the most annoying Princess characters I've encountered in anime. Seriously, her father was killed, her people and kingdom destroyed and she doesn't even remotely contemplate getting revenge for it? Or even thought about living to lead the remnants of her people to a better life? Augh...:bash:

[blakstealth]

I actually found the princess to be pretty funny in her responses to Kid when he tried to save her. It's like she's playing a parody of those types of "woe is me" archetypes.

[Anh_Minh]

Triangle?
Dietrich seemed a bit put out at how well his friends were getting along. But maybe he just doesn't like holding the candle.


*The Fang tried to kill Ernie in bed but Addy being with him blew the guy away. She has been sneaking to his bed. Fremevilla taught its people to be light sleepers because of the constant threat of demon beasts. There was another attempted kidnapping of the princess but was stopped by Kid.

... Does that mean Kid sneaked into the princess' bed?

If I was Kid, I would have knocked Eleonora right out and threw her in the cockpit instead of wasting my time listening to her nonsense. She is one of the most annoying Princess characters I've encountered in anime. Seriously, her father was killed, her people and kingdom destroyed and she doesn't even remotely contemplate getting revenge for it? Or even thought about living to lead the remnants of her people to a better life? Augh...:bash:

Though I agree she chose a terrible time and place to express her angst, she has understandable doubts about her ability as a leader. I mean, if nothing else, she does suck at it.

[zztop]

Dietrich seemed a bit put out at how well his friends were getting along. But maybe he just doesn't like holding the candle.


... Does that mean Kid sneaked into the princess' bed?

Addy was sneaking into Ernie's bed in the LN.

The WN also affirms the Edgar x Helvi pairing.

Now we know what to tell future generations, who was that lady with the scar and her group of friends? No one son, just a wasted set of breasts and her reverse harem, even I felt unsatisfied with her end^^;;.

Kerhilt's death here follows the WN's pacing of events.
The LN version in Vol 4 is rewritten so she escapes (but her team is all captured/killed). Her fight with Edgar and death was shifted to Vol 5.

[MrTerrorist]

Is Zaloudek a Kingdom or an Empire? Which translation is correct?

[ReddyRedWolf]

... Does that mean Kid sneaked into the princess' bed?




Nope he heard the ruckus of the assassin Eleonora's maid retainers being murdered and the kidnapping attempt.

[~Yami~]

wow Kid managed to gain a waifu :heh: but she is a princess so probably still far away
but he did his best to teach her how to be a proper princess

congratulations for Edgar... he finally slained his nemesis although I still don't get about "shield-throw" thing for dealing with ranged enemy.. should have made "shield boomerang" instead :heh:

Kuschperchka's mecha got upgraded with 4 slots magic weapon now :heh: too op

and when would we get the battle of Robot Otaku again? Eru needs to test his Ikaruga to its maximum potential after all

[Vaans]

Ernie could've destroyed that levitation ship if he really wants too.

Eleonora is difficult to handle.

[Side-streetdog]

A lot of scenes different from novel in this episode, not just cut or shorten like previous.
Now I smell original ending.

[Faux Mecha]

please don't tell me Ernie & creepy glasses guy who builds the levitation ships will end up becoming friends due to their interests despite being enemies, unless the joke is war can be stopped thanks to people from opposing sides who shared the same hobby & wants to enjoy it in peace, in this case for being nerdy fanboys. :heh:

[ReddyRedWolf]

please don't tell me Ernie & creepy glasses guy who builds the levitation ships will end up becoming friends due to their interests despite being enemies, unless the joke is war can be stopped thanks to people from opposing sides who shared the same hobby & wants to enjoy it in peace, in this case for being nerdy fanboys. :heh:

Not the same type of nerds.

The levitate scientist has more in common with Wernher von Braun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun), father of modern rocketry. He wants to conquer the skies with his invention.

Ernie likes mechs because they are cool.

Technology is neutral it can be used for good or evil. However it must be said the practical purpose of the Silhouette Knight is combat whether demon beasts or human opponents.

Levitate ships are like planes or rockets they have non-combat applications.

That is where their difference lies. The glasses guy was willing to have Zaloudek as a temporary ally of convenience to proliferate his technology. Ernie his focus is to build weapons and to build tools that make those weapons. Even if he'll have to steal an idea to apply them.

[felix]

Well that was kind of easy of them to break those girls out even though it took Archid some it took some convincing to get the Princess to comeYeah I was like "Just punch her, she needs it!" the whole conversation.

Your people are dead or being trampled under foot there's no room for goody goody pacifism here.

(Glad some people found it funny, the princess's humor totally didnt work on me)

[John117xCortana]

Somehow I get the feeling that there won't be a season 2.

[4th Dimension]

Your people are dead or being trampled under foot there's no room for goody goody pacifism here.


Well far be it from me to denegade being a rebel for rebel sake, but it could be argued that her accepting the terms of peace and willingly becoming the Carlos's wife, she could do more for her people than leading them in a potentially (from what she knew then) USELESS and bloody rebellion that will just ensure imposition of even harsher retaliations on her peiple.

This is really only good move if there is reason they could actually win in the end.

[zztop]

Somehow I get the feeling that there won't be a season 2.

I don't think there's enough source material for a S2.
Vols 6-7 is a new ongoing story arc that still isn't over yet.
Plus the novel's focus on mecha engineering and building makes the series pretty niche by otaku standards.

[orion]

Well far be it from me to denegade being a rebel for rebel sake, but it could be argued that her accepting the terms of peace and willingly becoming the Carlos's wife, she could do more for her people than leading them in a potentially (from what she knew then) USELESS and bloody rebellion that will just ensure imposition of even harsher retaliations on her peiple.

This is really only good move if there is reason they could actually win in the end.

You're assuming that she would be alive long enough after the wedding to ensure that her country is safe. She could have been poisoned later after all the official business for turning over the country to Carlos occurred. Given what was done to her off camera (drugged, held hostage), she should have left when the option occurred.

[Isaac Gravity]

The latest twist to the opening was a nice throwback to older mech animes (showing us some key drama moments before hitting the high point of the song) not enough usage of sound effects though admittedly what little they placed was distracting overall.

The show is still a total treat but I really wish the pacing would slow down a bit. That battle against the ant queen a couple of eps back as well as the major R&D shakeups (in a series that really prides itself in such) felt rushed/too short.

Would have also loved to many of the stuff ReddyRedWolf mentioned animated.

That scientist can't be from that world, right? The airships advancements from just stealing one of Ernie's old prototypes is way to much of a tech jump.

Finally, lol @Zaloudek's super robot anime villain inspired homeland.

[Anh_Minh]

Yeah I was like "Just punch her, she needs it!" the whole conversation.

Your people are dead or being trampled under foot there's no room for goody goody pacifism here.


It's not pacifism, it's low self-esteem. She thinks she's a terrible leader (which she is) and that she can't do anything on the outside except get people killed (which isn't entirely true - she really just needs to be there and smile, maybe sign whatever her aunt tells her to). As far as princesses go, she's a terrible role model for little girls, but it's not like she's the only female on this show. Or, uh, like little girls are the target audience.

[4th Dimension]

That scientist can't be from that world, right? The airships advancements from just stealing one of Ernie's old prototypes is way to much of a tech jump.
No. The airships have nothing to do with Eru. They are an entirely native development and fly in different manner to Ikaruga.
And they make as much sense as Eru's tech leaps. Unless you are saying that noone except the protagonist is allowed to be smart.

[The 48th Ronin]

Is Gojass Tieria Erde on drugs? :heh:

And I salute Kid for his patience. Now, you're a knight. :heh:

[zztop]

Takahashi Rie (Ernie) and Takumi Yasuaki (Edgar) pilot some real-life mecha!
KpJ-JfD1368

Ikaruga cockpit design:
https://twitter.com/TENJIN_hidetaka/status/904369364186546176/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fknights-magic.com%2F

That's a LOT of controls compared to the other mecha models.

[Faux Mecha]

seeing that video makes me wonder what happened to Suidobashi Heavy Industry's Kuratas or for an older unit TMSUK's T-52 Enryu rescue mech along with its descendants.

[PreSage]

Although Ernie is depicted as a cute hero, but I keep getting this "kids a cold assassin" vibe during his fights. He doesn't seem to notice or care about the human fighter inside, whether he kills them or not. He just enjoys mech fights. Pretty cold-hearted, in way.

[4th Dimension]

Oh I think that's kinda intentional, or at least obvious.
For him when he is fighting, he isn't fighting other humans that are fighting using robots.. he is fighting robots, and the human is just the wetware that controls the robot..

[Isaac Gravity]

Unless you are saying that noone except the protagonist is allowed to be smart.

Funny, I don't ever recall myself ever even hinting at such an assumption so it'd be wise if you refrain from doing the same.

But given what was seen & vaguely explained so far on the show, tech like an airship esp. at that scale goes beyond the scope of imagination the builders of that world have shown to have (until given a little push) thus far hence my question about the Zaloudek scientist.

[4th Dimension]

Well their tech base seems to support them since they don't seem much more than a wood and metal construction floated via magic. So the only thing that was needed was someone getting the idea. God knows there have been PLENTY of people who were in front of their times.
And frankly the probably most ridiculous part of the setting was allways the fact that it seemed litlle to no development was happening mech wise despite a LOT of funding going to it before Ernie. This addresses that somewhat.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Although Ernie is depicted as a cute hero, but I keep getting this "kids a cold assassin" vibe during his fights. He doesn't seem to notice or care about the human fighter inside, whether he kills them or not. He just enjoys mech fights. Pretty cold-hearted, in way.

In the LN some characters do acknowledge Ernie is scary with his mentality. Like all the wrecked mechs are his payment not the Silver Phoenix Merchants but his alone.

His thinking after all mechs should kill mechs. Wrecked mechs are beautiful too.

Ambrosius was right. Great power like that with such a prodigy was dangerous. Good thing Ernie is at their side.

King Leotamus sent Ernie to ensure his headstrong son the crown prince comes back alive.

Zaloudek's mistake was thinking Fremevilla wouldn't do anything. A country the size of or exceeding the entire Occident/West that doesn't have limitations in manufacturing Silhouette Knights. They attack their citizens and steal their tech now they have the gall to attack those related to the royal family and an ally country?

[zztop]

Ep 11 preview, Hit & Away.
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Meanwhile, Vol 8 of the Knights & Magic LN will release this 30 Sept 2017.
This release will break the author's tradition of releasing 1 volume a year.

The anime will cover up to Vol 5 of the LN, and concludes the Zaloudek war arc.
Vol 6-8 is a brand new story arc (if my info is right).

[Greenish Growth]

It looks like a Tholian in that screenshot.

[Tiberium Wolf]

Ep 11 at 15:50 the etherite seems to be in penis shape :D

[RDNexus]

You noticed it too, huh? :D

[4th Dimension]

The thing with the parts that use ethernite... well having such short life on Ether Reactors is kinda fine for a war weapon. You better don't count on your vehicle surviving more than couple of battles, because it probably won't, before sustaining enough damage for it to need a refit, if you are fighting equal forces. Also you better be able to mass produce these things or you will be ground away.

[Anh_Minh]

Ernie missed another opportunity to cripple the opposition by shooting all its airships. The dead prince showed it's not that hard for a Knight standing on a ship to destroy it.

[4th Dimension]

Knowing how his designs guzzle the mana I would guess he was already approaching his limit.

Were there other ships besides the ones that the Prince and the Inventor were on board? Maybe the Inventor's one was in formation, so landing on it would expose him to fire from other ships...
Wait...
Do those things even have ANY weapons except those Knights they can drop?

Because not adding some artillery on them is kinda WEIRD.

[Magewolf]

The thing with the parts that use ethernite... well having such short life on Ether Reactors is kinda fine for a war weapon. You better don't count on your vehicle surviving more than couple of battles, because it probably won't, before sustaining enough damage for it to need a refit, if you are fighting equal forces. Also you better be able to mass produce these things or you will be ground away.

But it seems like Ether Reactors are the main limiting factor on making mechs. For making the bodies you can just throw more dwarves at them but Reactors are handmade by very rare lazy elves.

[thundrakkon]

Of course! To fight a medieval Gundam, you'd need to build a medieval Mobile Armor dragon. And probably like all Gundam versus Mobile Armor, it will likely end the same. However, Ernie won't have the ultimate mobile suit until he builds a Gunbuster!

I'm going to guess that the mad scientist on the other side will eventually join Ernie's knight order.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Ernie missed another opportunity to cripple the opposition by shooting all its airships. The dead prince showed it's not that hard for a Knight standing on a ship to destroy it.

All airships in that battle was destroyed in the LN except for the flagship which Ernie took as spoils of war. Black Knight remnants had to walk for days back to the occupied capital.

Other differences are:
The Prince jumped to his death with his mech.
The tower type six armed Silhouette Knights were destroyed on the way to where the Princess was.
Kuchepercha got new upgraded mechs that can take on Tyrants.
Ernie pretty much wiped out the main mass of Black Knights by himself.
Again scientist guy wasn't at that battle. Oh he did offer new weapons but he came out of the shadows after the Princess ordered everybody out having a breakdown in grief.

That conversation with the prince Ernie sounds like a Sociopath.:heh:

Okay the part about the Ether Supplier and the Ether Levitator I haven't read yet as it is likely from the next volume. The former looks suspiciously like Alve design. Zaloudek has a resource that Fremevilla doesn't in Etherite which is solid Ether. Assuming they do not have a means of building their own Ether Reactors they are wasting their own supply and taking it from other countries via salvage. Ether Reactor friendly wise Fremevilla has it better due to their own manufacturing.

Oh dear Ernie is gonna geek out on the giant robot dragon.

[zztop]

Knowing how his designs guzzle the mana I would guess he was already approaching his limit.

Were there other ships besides the ones that the Prince and the Inventor were on board? Maybe the Inventor's one was in formation, so landing on it would expose him to fire from other ships...
Wait...
Do those things even have ANY weapons except those Knights they can drop?

Because not adding some artillery on them is kinda WEIRD.

The ships have no weapons, at this point they're just glorified transport vessels.
Given they are the 1st fully manned flight units in the world, I think Zaloudek was counting on the element of surprise against their enemies. Failed to account for other mad geniuses like Ernie though...

[blakstealth]

I was expecting Ernie to develop missiles or rockets, but propelling Javelins in the air ain't half bad either! hopefully, this Mobile Armor gives the group some challenge. It's always fun to see Ernie steamroll through everything, but there's gotta be a balance.

[Master_Yoma]

Well that was a one sided battle and another one after that

[Anh_Minh]

Knowing how his designs guzzle the mana I would guess he was already approaching his limit.

Were there other ships besides the ones that the Prince and the Inventor were on board? Maybe the Inventor's one was in formation, so landing on it would expose him to fire from other ships...
Wait...
Do those things even have ANY weapons except those Knights they can drop?

Because not adding some artillery on them is kinda WEIRD.
I doubt they'd have anti-air weaponry in any case. They pretty much counted on being the only flyers.

All airships in that battle was destroyed in the LN except for the flagship which Ernie took as spoils of war. Black Knight remnants had to walk for days back to the occupied capital.
Well, that's better.

Ernie pretty much wiped out the main mass of Black Knights by himself.

Except this part.

[4th Dimension]

I doubt they'd have anti-air weaponry in any case. They pretty much counted on being the only flyers.
Then they aren't thinking like military. The first question, after when can we have them, should allways be how big guns can we mount in them. :D

Does anyone know why the javelins had those lines on them? Wire guidance? Because they were ridiculously precise for supposedly magical unguided rockets.

[Vaans]

I find it funny how Cristobal went crazy and killed himself along with his ship because of Ernie.

Eleonora finally deciding to be a queen.

Wyvern vs Demon next episode. Its gonna be an exciting match.

[arkhangelsk]

Wyvern vs Demon next episode. Its gonna be an exciting match.

Depends, is this going to be 12 or 13 episodes? If its the former, it'll be popped like a pimple.

My favorite part of this episode is when the poor prince tries to bribe Ernesti, and the 2nd favorite is when he wants all the silhouette knights for himself. This character is very well made to allow spouting such lines off without making him look totally unlikable :heh:

[4th Dimension]

I wouldn't say "likable". He clearly isn't really right in his head.

On the other hand the offer was a joke. Eru is de-facto the 2nd or 3rd most powerfull man in his own country already anyway. There was literally nothing Cristobal could have offered him that would offset that.

[zztop]

Then they aren't thinking like military. The first question, after when can we have them, should allways be how big guns can we mount in them. :D

Does anyone know why the javelins had those lines on them? Wire guidance? Because they were ridiculously precise for supposedly magical unguided rockets.

I think the lines are wire guidance. If you rewatch the scene, you can see the lines disconnecting from javelins the moment they start descending.

Depends, is this going to be 12 or 13 episodes? If its the former, it'll be popped like a pimple.

My favorite part of this episode is when the poor prince tries to bribe Ernesti, and the 2nd favorite is when he wants all the silhouette knights for himself. This character is very well made to allow spouting such lines off without making him look totally unlikable :heh:

Anime will be 13 episodes.

As 4th Dimension said, Ernie's definitely mad. So is Oracio. The difference is one's mad for mecha, one's mad for aviation.

[4th Dimension]

According to someone who read the LNs (I think) they need those to supply power to the jets which are on the lances, and provide some guidance I guess.

So yeah they are basically wire guided.

[IceHism]

Man this show will be over soon but I just want to see ernie make shit. I haven't seen a systems fiction anime in a while and I rather enjoy the exposition dumps. So I guess sometime later, kid and the princess will hook up. And lol at prince trying to negotiate with Ernesti.

[Faux Mecha]

so essentially Ernie's role is a stereotypical obsessive mad scientist character who only cares about satisfying his fanboy boner & not caring about morals of casualties, you should be thankful he's on the side of the good guys, he could pull a doctor Willy at any moment. :heh:

[arkhangelsk]

I wouldn't say "likable". He clearly isn't really right in his head.

Yes, he's a bit crazy, but you don't dislike him or quietly wish for that other guy to win, do you. Personally, I really did think they found a way to make him look somewhat cute as he says it.

[zztop]

so essentially Ernie's role is a stereotypical obsessive mad scientist character who only cares about satisfying his fanboy boner & not caring about morals of casualties, you should be thankful he's on the side of the good guys, he could pull a doctor Willy at any moment. :heh:

The same can be said of Oracio too.
But, he's more hammy in his acting.

[ReddyRedWolf]

I read a bit of the next volume about Etherite as explained by Ernie. Boy this show is rushed. Etherite is so damn common found underground but is considered so damn useless as when exposed to air it evaporates into Ether.

The Ether Supplier solidifies Ether into Etherite so as a last resort it can be injected to the Ether Reactor. As said it is too much of a good thing as it wears out the reactor.

What was skipped here much like Kucheperca's Revantier is Zaloudek's armed Levitate ships which are an intermediate between the unarmed Levitate ships and the Drake Levitate battleship.

[4th Dimension]

Man this show will be over soon but I just want to see ernie make shit. I haven't seen a systems fiction anime in a while and I rather enjoy the exposition dumps.
I know some people like to harp on story story story, but I too have no problems with exposition dumps and would be fine with going into details on things. So yeah, from what I hear of the novels the focus is a LOT on the "mechgenering" aspect.

Eru is still a Marty Sue and could easily be replaced by 2-3 characters, but eh. I have stopped caring about that long ago.

so essentially Ernie's role is a stereotypical obsessive mad scientist character who only cares about satisfying his fanboy boner & not caring about morals of casualties, you should be thankful he's on the side of the good guys, he could pull a doctor Willy at any moment. :heh:
The same can be said of Oracio too.
But, he's more hammy in his acting.
E&O seeing each other's designs: Ohhh that's soo cool!
O: ATTACK my CREATION Attack! - roasts thousands
E: *completely oblivious to the casualties* that was cool, but let's see if you can take this *vaporizes hundreds*
O: Oh no.. is what I would have said have I not been THE LORD OF THE SKIES! COUNTER THE ATTACK! * deflects it wasting half his "own" army
etc etc etc....
Those two will be the death of the countries. :D
Eru has the edge here a tiny bit, in that he at least pilots what he makes, but not by much.

Yes, he's a bit crazy, but you don't dislike him or quietly wish for that other guy to win, do you. Personally, I really did think they found a way to make him look somewhat cute as he says it.
A lot of it is down to how things are framed, and part of it is his looks. They could have easily framed things differently (showing the pilots dying horribly each time he unveils some "cool" new move) and it would have been MUCH more creepy.

[zztop]

1 panel manga for Knights.
http://imgur.com/a/xDGjL

Ep 9: Eru's having so much fun as an angel...of DEATH! :eyespin:

[~Yami~]

ah... Ernie's negotiation with the prince is probably the best part of this show
someone like Eru is probably really hard to be found in other series :heh:
and congratulations, Kid... your youth is going full speed

[blitz1/2]

Damn, it's a war between 2 nerds and the collateral damage is the nations.

[zztop]

Takahashi Rie sketched all the characters she's voiced so far, to celebrate having 250k Twitter followers.
https://twitter.com/taka8rie/status/907030990492655616

Ernesti's on the lower right hand side.
You may also notice Megumin and Emilia too.

[zztop]

Ep 12 preview, Knight & Dragon.
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1 more episode left!

[Faux Mecha]

this needs a second season, too short for mecha anime standards unless it's an OVA.

[RDNexus]

The LNs are only a couple volumes ahead of where the Anime seems to plan to stop, so... :upset:

[zztop]

The LNs are only a couple volumes ahead of where the Anime seems to plan to stop, so... :upset:

The anime will cover up to Vol 5.
Vols 6-8 is a new story arc, enough to fit into 1 cour.

Author's just starting the newest arc for Vol 9 on Shosetsuka ni Narou.
If he can pick up his writing speed then more volumes can be released per year; until now it's mostly been 1 volume each year.

[alex_drian]

Again, I'm relieved that the plot don't went for the stupit route of blame to Ernie for all this shit, seriously I don't know if that is a problem of the writing or the japanese culture usually. For example in Mahouka that fuckers blame to their MC for a new magic that he created and was weaponized for someone and caused a genocide or in Symphogear where MC was blamed for SURVIVE in a freaking terrorist attack where she was the only survivor.

But well, Ernie isn't the kind of person that thinks or care for the consequences, he could have fun even in Muv Luv.

[Faux Mecha]

so Ernie's own flying battleship is inspired by........ the Gotengo? assuming it's front hull is also a drill.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Changes from the LN.
-The Silver Phoenix Knights weren't surprised by the Drake at their encounter as they were hunting for it as fortresses were being attacked. The SPK split to two groups. Edgard and Helvi's group didn't encounter the enemy but Ernie, Di and Addy's group did.
-The Sword guy was defeated but didn't run. Di's team was rearguard for the retreating Kucheperca forces. His mech was far more wrecked luckily Addy was there with a carriage to bring it instead of abandoning the mech.
-Major deviation from the LN the Drake escaped to the upper atmosphere as recommended by Horatio if it can't win against Ikaruga. Ernie tried to pursue but had to stop due to Ether poisoning. There are higher concentration of Ether in the upper atmosphere which is why the Drake escaped there due to Mana loss and damage incurred.
-The levitate ship rebuilt was supposed to be the dead prince's flagship remodeled.

I have to disagree with Ernie on his stance on anti-AA mechs on battleships. I guess he didn't watch Macross with its Destroids filling that role.

Horatio built what the Alves consider a useless large Ether Reactor with probably real blood. He doesn't look like an Alve so where did he learn to build one?

Oh FYI the West used to have Demon Beasts like the ancient dragons but they were all wiped out to extinction.

Guess that explains why the Occident has Silhouette Knights. Humanity pushed back Demon Beasts all the way to Fremevilla frontier. However Fremevilla only has the means to manufacture mass produced Ether Reactors as only Alves can make them.

[zztop]

Changes from the LN.
-The Silver Phoenix Knights weren't surprised by the Drake at their encounter as they were hunting for it as fortresses were being attacked. The SPK split to two groups. Edgard and Helvi's group didn't encounter the enemy but Ernie, Di and Addy's group did.
-The Sword guy was defeated but didn't run. Di's team was rearguard for the retreating Kucheperca forces. His mech was far more wrecked luckily Addy was there with a carriage to bring it instead of abandoning the mech.
-Major deviation from the LN the Drake escaped to the upper atmosphere as recommended by Horatio if it can't win against Ikaruga. Ernie tried to pursue but had to stop due to Ether poisoning. There are higher concentration of Ether in the upper atmosphere which is why the Drake escaped there due to Mana loss and damage incurred.
-The levitate ship rebuilt was supposed to be the dead prince's flagship remodeled.

I have to disagree with Ernie on his stance on anti-AA mechs on battleships. I guess he didn't watch Macross with its Destroids filling that role.

Horatio built what the Alves consider a useless large Ether Reactor with probably real blood. He doesn't look like an Alve so where did he learn to build one?

Oh FYI the West used to have Demon Beasts like the ancient dragons but they were all wiped out to extinction.

Guess that explains why the Occident has Silhouette Knights. Humanity pushed back Demon Beasts all the way to Fremevilla frontier. However Fremevilla only has the means to manufacture mass produced Ether Reactors as only Alves can make them.

Some more extra stuff:

-Eleonora's mech is a 2 seater, with Isadora as main pilot. This is because Eleonora has no experience piloting mechas before.

-Delvincur does not have defensive walls of its own. Instead it is protected by a fortress network located outside the city, the very same one being attacked now. If Kuscheperca can capture it, it's a beeline to the capital and their win.

[PreSage]

The 2 mech genius battles in the last few episodes is more entertaining than earlier episodes. Too bad we're onto our last ep.

This series has been entertaining for me this season. Will miss the quirks and amusements when the series ends.

[blakstealth]

Final episode next week already?!?!? NOOOOOOO

Also love Ernie's reason to destroy the drake: so that the relevance of robots stays high and not shirt to warships and big things.

[Anh_Minh]

Until this ep, I hadn't realized the prince and the sword maniac were two different characters...

[The 48th Ronin]

Eru doesn't let logic get in the way of his mecha war fantasy. :heh:

[Faux Mecha]

so apparently in Ernie's logic anything that is like equivalent to the Gundam franchise's Mobile Armor units is a big no no in a humanoid mecha development, i think he will be triggered if he saw the RX-78GP03S Gundam Dendrobium Stamen.

[arkhangelsk]

I have to disagree with Ernie on his stance on anti-AA mechs on battleships. I guess he didn't watch Macross with its Destroids filling that role.

Well, they aren't very glamorous though. I think I remember those brown things generally showing up, firing a few shots, and then explode from the enemy of the week.

[zztop]

2 mad geniuses:
https://i.imgur.com/q1m126L.png

At least Eru hasn't called himself Ruler of Robots or Kawaguchi Meijin II - yet.

[Sinestra]

Did this MOFO just build a Mobile Armor? Also, i thought the prince survived then i realized then i realized him and sword dude are two different characters. Nothing like putting two mad geniuses against each other with the fate of the world hanging in the balance.

[u2L2rQ]

i think they going to kill off Oracio in the anime, cuz' Oracio is not on board the Wyvern Battleship during the final face-off with Ikaruga in the LN.

[zztop]

Ep 13 preview, Heaven & Earth.
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Final episode!!!

[Wandering_Youth]

You know this anime was actually quite enjoyable for me even though it's so niche. I just wished that maybe they could of time some more world building for the anime about the othernations and more about the magical beasts.

[ScrewySquirrel]

Well, it seemed to me to set up for a second season that would cover the 6th through 8th light novels

[u2L2rQ]

the whole anime is meh... i'd better re-read the LN again...to wash off the bitter taste the anime brought me

[zztop]

You know this anime was actually quite enjoyable for me even though it's so niche. I just wished that maybe they could of time some more world building for the anime about the othernations and more about the magical beasts.

The novels tend to focus more on mecha development over worldbuilding. However, the next arc does have some worldbuilding on the Bocuse Sea of Trees east of Fremevilla and its "inhabitants".

You can check out the LN page for spoilers, if you wish.
https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=124024&page=55

[DemonneoPT]

The pace was way too rushed but i found this title quite enjoyable even tho it had some of the typical LN tropes i usually dislike. A battle of mad geniuses and the technology that is able to change the world is always an interesting concept to me and i'm glad i gave this anime a chance. The animation was also surprisingly good which was a big plus!

[sasabit]

Why does Kid get the princess even though he barely did anything? ): I wanted to see a trap centered harem :D

[Blueknight78]

Why does Kid get the princess even though he barely did anything? ): I wanted to see a trap centered harem :D

because the trap is not the only "male in the serie"??, i would be opposite i'm glad it not turned in just another "haremish crap novel which only the "harem lovers can "love.

i really liked this serie since i don't read the novel, i don't know all the rush but from a "anime only watcher" i really enjoyed it, i really like when a serie can threat "equal" all his characters rater than have the mc "having everything" and beat everyone, it's just so "boring and too stupid otaku selfish cliche(my opnion), i will give it a 8/10, my only complain goes to agree with the girls in that serie which the males are "too dense", omg this aways will be something to happen in anime and novels but still was a fine serie and a big surprise for me.

[Anh_Minh]

Well, at least Edgar is sensitive enough to know Hevia was also talking about him, even if he doesn't know why.

[felix]

Hope this sells toys. We need more "robot heart" :heh:

Needless to say I liked it a lot. Especially how straight forward it is.
It feels like we haven't had a light heated series that's NOT a comedy in a long time.

Ending was good. The extra villain speech sold it.

[Flower]

Not so bad on the whole - enjoyable fluffy silliness mixing robots and a fantasy setting. It may be the first mecha series I have been able to watch through to the end in quite a long time, though I don't think it was of exceptionally high quality of the like. Just lighthearted and watcheable for me.

Maybe a 7/10 or so?

[LoweGear]

I actually ROFL'd at how while they did the Gundam-standard "newtype communication" scene, the merits they were arguing about here was about whose technology was better. It's definitely a lot more refreshing than the pseudo-philosophy most Gundams spout out that's for sure (and at least this time they were both fully clothed) :D

[zztop]

Not so bad on the whole - enjoyable fluffy silliness mixing robots and a fantasy setting. It may be the first mecha series I have been able to watch through to the end in quite a long time, though I don't think it was of exceptionally high quality of the like. Just lighthearted and watcheable for me.

Maybe a 7/10 or so?

That's why readers say it's one of the non-standard isekai webnovels out there, with its strong mecha focus and no-harem status.

Thing now is we're going to get the animes of the standard isekai webnovels, like this season's Smartphone. Death March, Shield Hero, Kenja no Mago...

[blakstealth]

Man, I liked this show more than I thought I would. So enjoyable. I initially dismissed it it when I saw the title and how the apostrophe is used, but I'm glad I picked it up.

[Master_Yoma]

Ernesti really is just a mecha freak

7/10 seemed like they skiped a lot

[ReddyRedWolf]

I actually ROFL'd at how while they did the Gundam-standard "newtype communication" scene, the merits they were arguing about here was about whose technology was better. It's definitely a lot more refreshing than the pseudo-philosophy most Gundams spout out that's for sure (and at least this time they were both fully clothed) :D

Indeed that was something else.

If we go by the anime ending, I haven't finished the LN yet, Oratio won. He proliferated his flight technology. Ultimately that was what he wanted not weapons.

Zaloudek lost much of its forces I have to wonder how much they have on other occupied countries if they can maintain that given Kucheperca will likely proliferate Fremevilla Silhouette Knight technology they got.

Zaloudek can move against Kucheperca as they have their princess hostage. If I was Fremevilla I'd be setting up a betrothing between Kid and Elenora for stronger ties. Again Marquis Serrati would be a winner in this.

[zztop]

Indeed that was something else.

If we go by the anime ending, I haven't finished the LN yet, Oratio won. He proliferated his flight technology. Ultimately that was what he wanted not weapons.

Zaloudek lost much of its forces I have to wonder how much they have on other occupied countries if they can maintain that given Kucheperca will likely proliferate Fremevilla Silhouette Knight technology they got.

Zaloudek can move against Kucheperca as they have their princess hostage. If I was Fremevilla I'd be setting up a betrothing between Kid and Elenora for stronger ties. Again Marquis Serrati would be a winner in this.

My impression was that Catalina committed suicide by poison in the end rather than be captured by Kucheperca.
As for Kid, he and Emrys are off in Kucheperca since Vol 6. Emrys got a diplomatic posting there and asked Kid to follow him. (The Kid x Eleonora ship rises again offscreen!)

Assuming the anime's following the LN in this regard, I wonder if the LNs will reintroduce Oracio Gojass again. A rival to match Ernie in both tech skills and madness.

[IceHism]

I am unsure whether there will be a season two or not but this series has been really fun with its focus on mecha development. The fight scenes overall have been great as well. I'd be on board for a season 2 if there is one.

[Faux Mecha]

so Ernie's ship was meant to be a ramming ship? the Gotengo similarities doesn't end there except maybe his version does not have the iconic drill hull,

not sure the "it's not just for show!" when the Ikaruga tries to push back the Drake line is a reference to Amuro's line in Char's Counter Attack which also involves the Nu Gundam trying to push the asteroid fortress Axis from falling to Earth.

[Fufufu]

Did that princess kill herself?

[James Rye]

Timeskip the Anime. I mean, we didn't had a single episode in this series without a timeskip, didn't we? A very fast paced anime with one of the fastest failed Invasion done over several months/years I've seen so far. Didn't hurt the enjoyment much though, the characters were fun albeit mostly underdeveloped or remaining mostly in their comfort zone/character quirk/role and the action was fun and the mechas were awesomeawesomeawesome!

[zztop]

Did that princess kill herself?

Yes. Implied she poisoned herself, based on the fallen glass with mystery liquid.

[Fufufu]

Yes. Implied she poisoned herself, based on the fallen glass with mystery liquid.

But her eyes were open as if she was drunk. Guys who read LN can tell us what happened to her.

[MrTerrorist]

But her eyes were open as if she was drunk. Guys who read LN can tell us what happened to her.

I haven't read the novels but bits and pieces of info from some users. So here's what i remember correctly:

* Captain Kerhild didn't join the Copper Fang Knights trying to steal Eru's new mechs a second time and was able to escape.

* In the novels, it was Crown Prince Carlitos, Cristobal and Catalina's older brother who lead the invasion of the Kusheperca kingdom, forced Eleonora to marry him and the one who kills himself when the Silver Phoenix Knights beat his forces.

* And Catalina didn't commit suicide as her last appearance was vowing to avenge her brother's death and her kingdom's humiliating defeat.

[arkhangelsk]

Not so bad on the whole - enjoyable fluffy silliness mixing robots and a fantasy setting. It may be the first mecha series I have been able to watch through to the end in quite a long time, though I don't think it was of exceptionally high quality of the like. Just lighthearted and watcheable for me.

Maybe a 7/10 or so?

About the same here. Not quite good enough to motivate me to purchase merchandise, but enjoyable enough to finish.

[chaos_animagic]

It was a interesting and fun series of building Mechas.

Also, I noticed the narrator keeps on saying "that another story for another time" a lot, LOL


Well, at first (beginning) of this series I was thinking it would be a more stable progress of Mecha evolution, but this series had it go in a "jump progress" style where Mechas "power level" jumped in large leaps.

Going from Standard humanoid to Humanoid with added guns

to suddenly going into centaurs, and then goes into flying.

Technically there wasn't that much Mechas built in this series, most of them are just unique types that isn't mass produced and usually for limited uses.


And too bad the MC didn't like non-humanoid Mechas... otherwise there could be a lot more unique Mechas that can be mass produced to go around. Such as animal Mechas that can help in all sorts of ways for Daily Life.

The only non-humanoid Mecha MC kept was Airship... mainly cause it's a Vehicle and not based on Living Organisms.

Overall this series is nice to watch, but I would have expected more unique Mechas and progression. Giving this series a 8 out 0f 10.


Not sure if it'll have another season and what it would even be about...

[zztop]

It was a interesting and fun series of building Mechas.

Also, I noticed the narrator keeps on saying "that another story for another time" a lot, LOL


Well, at first (beginning) of this series I was thinking it would be a more stable progress of Mecha evolution, but this series had it go in a "jump progress" style where Mechas "power level" jumped in large leaps.

Going from Standard humanoid to Humanoid with added guns

to suddenly going into centaurs, and then goes into flying.

Technically there wasn't that much Mechas built in this series, most of them are just unique types that isn't mass produced and usually for limited uses.


And too bad the MC didn't like non-humanoid Mechas... otherwise there could be a lot more unique Mechas that can be mass produced to go around. Such as animal Mechas that can help in all sorts of ways for Daily Life.

The only non-humanoid Mecha MC kept was Airship... mainly cause it's a Vehicle and not based on Living Organisms.

Overall this series is nice to watch, but I would have expected more unique Mechas and progression. Giving this series a 8 out 0f 10.


Not sure if it'll have another season and what it would even be about...

Next season will definitely have more mechgineering, plus an adventure arc.

[DragoonKain3]

So yeah, Eru (or his previous incarnation) really must not liked Mobile Armors. Acted like a real Mobile Suit fan. :heh:

All in all, I enjoyed the show; I say B+ and lost lots of points for its pacing. (5 volumes in 1 cour? That's insane!)

It is one of the few actual mecha shows, as this year it's few and far between. I personally would have liked for them to focus more on the mech developing aspect, but with only one cour, I guess they really had to end it here for it to feel conclusive enough with the ending. A lot of the loose threads have been wrapped up with the defeat of that particular empire, but man, the campaign against them lasted only like 3 episodes. Easily could have been a cour by itself, but considering how quick they beat them, it actually felt like it was just a trifling matter. But eh, time constraints and everything.

Emrys and Isadola though.... almost as HHNNNGGGG worthy as Eru/Addy. They sure like to glomp their respective LIs, and I just find it cute seeing so much skinship. XD

Shame about Kid though. Just like a certain other mecha show, the princess looks to have chosen duty over love lol. :heh:

[zztop]

So yeah, Eru (or his previous incarnation) really must not liked Mobile Armors. Acted like a real Mobile Suit fan. :heh:

All in all, I enjoyed the show; I say B+ and lost lots of points for its pacing. (5 volumes in 1 cour? That's insane!)

It is one of the few actual mecha shows, as this year it's few and far between. I personally would have liked for them to focus more on the mech developing aspect, but with only one cour, I guess they really had to end it here for it to feel conclusive enough with the ending. A lot of the loose threads have been wrapped up with the defeat of that particular empire, but man, the campaign against them lasted only like 3 episodes. Easily could have been a cour by itself, but considering how quick they beat them, it actually felt like it was just a trifling matter. But eh, time constraints and everything.

Emrys and Isadola though.... almost as HHNNNGGGG worthy as Eru/Addy. They sure like to glomp their respective LIs, and I just find it cute seeing so much skinship. XD

Shame about Kid though. Just like a certain other mecha show, the princess looks to have chosen duty over love lol. :heh:

Animes for Danmachi and Akashic Records also covered 5 vols in 1 cour.
Knights isn't the first.

Don't worry about Kid.
He and Emrys are off in Kucheperca in the next arc. Emrys took a diplomatic post there and asked Kid to follow him. So he'll get another chance with the princess.

[AnimeFangirl]

Just finished episode 8.
Alv Queen, "Making ether reactors is so hard nobody but Alvs can do it."
10 minutes later Ernesti makes not one but TWO ether reactors all by himself.
I don't know, show, I just don't know any more.

[Faux Mecha]

Just finished episode 8.
Alv Queen, "Making ether reactors is so hard nobody but Alvs can do it."
10 minutes later Ernesti makes not one but TWO ether reactors all by himself.
I don't know, show, I just don't know any more.

& nobody complained in Gundam 00 that everyone suddenly have Trans-Am technology. :heh:

[IceHism]

Just finished episode 8.
Alv Queen, "Making ether reactors is so hard nobody but Alvs can do it."
10 minutes later Ernesti makes not one but TWO ether reactors all by himself.
I don't know, show, I just don't know any more.

They taught him cause they deemed him worthy of the knowledge.

[Magewolf]

Just finished episode 8.
Alv Queen, "Making ether reactors is so hard nobody but Alvs can do it."
10 minutes later Ernesti makes not one but TWO ether reactors all by himself.
I don't know, show, I just don't know any more.

There was a ten month timejump of backbreaking labor that the anime did a bad job of showing.

Actually the anime took place over more then three years which was not shown very well in general.

[4th Dimension]

Look, for your enjoyment just accept that Eru does Eru things and that does include being good or better at things that people were actually trained for and he is just a newb.
Watch it for robots being man's romance.
https://i.imgur.com/x66ckl9l.jpg

[arkhangelsk]

I thought the show made it clear what it is and washed out anybody that cannot accept this guy as a Marty Stu by the end of episode 1.

[AnimeFangirl]

Yeah, I thought I had accepted it but that was just... I don't know, man.
Anyway I finished it. I have nothing to say. It was what it was.

Btw, what happened to the king? I thought Ambrosius abdicated so his son could take over, but in episode 13 he's back in charge again?

[4th Dimension]

Nah, he did abdicate. I don't know what happens in the ending, but he is probably just put in charge of Eru and his shenanigans.

[zztop]

Nah, he did abdicate. I don't know what happens in the ending, but he is probably just put in charge of Eru and his shenanigans.

Most likely, although will check back the LN to see if the anime deviated in this regard.

Checked out the translated LN covering the end of the anime, some things were different:

- Horacio doesn't board the Wyvern ship in the LN. He stays behind on land, but escapes Delvincourt for Zaloudek once the Kuschepercans arrive.
- Catalina doesn't commit suicide, she chooses to face Eleanora and her army in the throne room. She surrenders and is taken as political prisoner.
- The remaining Western countries gang up to attack a weakened Zaloudek. Its remaining forces must retreat to defend their country.
- The Western countries later make an armistice with Zaloudek so they can get their hands on its airship tech. Many are interested in getting Horacio and the Wyvern ship plans, but he and the plans seem to have disappeared. (It's implied he escaped again once he realized his country was on the losing side.)

[AnimeFangirl]

I see. Killing off Catalina and Cristobal makes it seem like they have no intention of making season 2. Otherwise they wouldn't change the LN events so dramatically for fear of it biting them in the posterior later down the line.

About the King, I suspect they changed it because Ernesti and his party haven't had any interactions with the new king at all. It would be strange to bring him out at this late point, so they just stuck with the old king we all know and love.

[Kurapica]

I loved this show. One of the best this past season and definitely the most enjoyable one. Ticked a lot of right bocex for me.

7.5+

I hope there will be a new season in the near future.