Infinite Dendrogram

[msg]

Print set to release in November
Chosen as Hobby Japan 10th anniversary project

Official LN site (http://dendro.jp/)
Licensed by J-Novel Club (https://j-novel.club/c/infinite-dendrogram-volume-1-part-1/)
Author : Sakon Kaidou
Illustraition : Taiki

July 15, 2043. On that day, a Full Dive VRMMO was released, its unique system called ＜Embryo＞ allowing each player to follow an extremely varied—or rather, an “infinitely” varied pattern of evolution. That game’s name?

＜Infinite Dendrogram＞

Possessing an element that, until now, had never been achieved by VRMMOs and was considered a technical impossibility, ＜Infinite Dendrogram＞ took over the entire world, becoming a major hit in the blink of an eye.

One and a half year had passed since the launch of ＜Infinite Dendrogram＞. A young man named Mukudori Reiji had finished his university entrance exams and began living alone in Tokyo. In order to celebrate the end of that lengthy studying period, after being invited by his older brother long ago, he finally started playing the game.

This is a story where the line between game and reality is blurred.

And also, a tale of reminiscences.

http://i.imgur.com/CRInSbx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RfNA8wE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sYQiXCY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/C9tmp7n.jpg

[Village Idiot]

Love the art.

Looks right out of a Tales game.

[FormerLurker]

Art looks amazing, that said can we have a synopsis?

[SineMora]

*inhale* MAIN FEMALE LEAD IS FLAT AS THE GUY!!!

On the other side, that sword is dangerously close to breaking apart

[hinakuya]

Any summary / synopsis about the plot?

[SamVision]

That's a really stupid looking sword.

[msg]

The awkward looking sword is fashion like a tree branch (hence the title - dendrogram).The sword can shapeshift into other weapons such as an axe, a spear etc and infinite number of blades can grow onto each other blade just like a tree diagram...
it's freaking overpowered sword that can grow infinitely
...and if you look again at one of the pictures, theres a barrel machine gun

Anyone want to translate the sypnosis from the web novel link that i post above?
i'm too lazy

PV

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[darkage]

Sorry but the youtube link isn't working for me.

[SineMora]

The awkward looking sword is fashion like a tree branch (hence the title - dendrogram).The sword can shapeshift into other weapons such as an axe, a spear etc and infinite number of blades can grow onto each other blade just like a tree diagram...
it's freaking overpowered sword that can grow infinitely
...and if you look again at one of the pictures, theres a barrel machine gun


That fucking bear with a gatling gun, we're doomed...

Fairy Fencer F... now I'm waiting for Advent Dark Force EN Steam version... (Marianna ~<3)

[obnuchious]

this is supposed to be fantasy . . . why the heck is a machine/chain gun with bullet belt there?
@_@

[darkdhaos]

this is supposed to be fantasy . . . why the heck is a machine/chain gun with bullet belt there?
@_@

It's not a fantasy world, it's a VRMMORPG.

[Ophis]

It's not a fantasy world, it's a VRMMORPG.

Is this VRMMORPG turned reality or simply a VRMMORPG all along? The thread is tagged as "high fantasy", so...

[The One Above God]

Looks like serioustututz started translating the series. Just finished chapter 1 and it's quite interesting. Damn, I want that game. That or Royal Road from LMS.

[tsunade666]

my first impression when I see the main. Jaune and Blake?

If the volume 1 is finished. I will checked this one.

[The One Above God]

Just finished the Prologue arc. It's been great so far. I want to see more Embryos. Shou's Embryo is fucking awesome. A bear riding a tank...well, it's a game, afterall. Anything goes.

[bakato]

Breezed through it surprisingly quickly, though I can't say it was because it was really good. I found the characterization somewhat jarring. This guy jumped on the "knight-in-shining-armor" train a little too abruptly. There was practically no buildup to this development.

On another note, is this sort of zanpakuto mechanic really fair realistically?

[msg]

Just finished the Prologue arc. It's been great so far. I want to see more Embryos. Shou's Embryo is fucking awesome. A bear riding a tank...well, it's a game, afterall. Anything goes.
Not exactly "änything goes" - The bear is the only character in the game that deviates from the game "üsual"mechanics and style characterization (so far).How he does that no one knows and the system seems to accept it.Maybe he's cheating :D.He's kinda mysterious and claimed that he's the MC older brother that invite him to the game ( and of course the MC having doubts about him ) He did ask him how come he was able to play as a bear
God not only does he has a tank i (think) he got a missile launcher a howitzer type cannon and a freaking laser!!!


Breezed through it surprisingly quickly, though I can't say it was because it was really good. I found the characterization somewhat jarring. This guy jumped on the "knight-in-shining-armor" train a little too abruptly. There was practically no buildup to this development.

On another note, is this sort of zanpakuto mechanic really fair realistically?

I think the author intended that way with multiple flashback of some players "real" life background story in later part of the story.
The embryo/dendrogram system should be fair.All the players have to conform the game rules playing system (even the bear)

[NeoAnkara]

OK the prologue(chapter 0) seems promising enough with the world building without being to overbearing. Time to read if the rest of the series live up to this.

[NeoAnkara]

Well that is rather interesting prologue. Not that great but good enough to keep me interest. I guess one more title from HJ Bunko to look forward too aside for Rokujouma.

[NeoAnkara]

Now that's beary interesting development. Look like we won't struck in the beginner course for a too long.

[The One Above God]

Wow, I didn't expect him to die so early :heh:. I thought his first death won't be due until much later in the story. Ray better start learning how to fight in Dendro for real, rather than just grinding levels.

[NeoAnkara]

Well he still need to have sufficient power to have a chance to partake in the story. Maybe not until Nemesis get on to the second form that he can avenge the PK.

[NeoAnkara]

*5,336　*,**5,951 Infinite Dendrogram Vol.1

A good start.

[The One Above God]

We've just been shown how thin the line between VR and actual reality is. From Ray acknowledging that Nemesis looks no different from a real girl, to the subtle things like him thinking there might come a time where he might enjoy the food in the game better. One thing I'm curious about is what happens to Embryos when their Master dies? Do they enter sleep? Do they remain conscious, just not spawned?

Anyway, I'm interested to see how they're gonna deal with the PK. Also, I'm really liking the chemistry between Ray and Nemesis, they're great together.

[The One Above God]

Nemesis is becoming cuter. Also, that huge waste of money :heh:. I'm getting some bad flashbacks from that one.

[NeoAnkara]

I know that feeling. Just as you save money and buy the equipment in the next instant you get the item one grade higher from random drop.

[The One Above God]

Worse is when you find out you still could have cleared the stage you were gearing up for with weaker equipment -_-. All that money could have been saved for higher level stuff..

[NeoAnkara]

At the very least it can still be used instead of leveling character to beat boss only to find out that he is immune to it's power.

[Kunagisa]

*5,336　*,**5,951 Infinite Dendrogram Vol.1

A good start.

http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/227664/blogkey/1567065/

Apparently it broke 10k, which is HUGE for how dead the light novel industry as a whole is right now. Seems to do well for the eBook version too.


PV


TFW just read the prologue and watched this and got spoiled by the comments (probably not even intended to be a huge spoiler I suppose). For some reason I didn't even notice "it" when all the hints are there, though obviously hindsight is 20/20.

For anyone who didn't realize it, his bro is King of Destroy as shown by the first account that commented on the video (unless that's a troll?). When are you supposed to find out about this anyway?

Anyone know if there's significant difference between the bunko and web version?

[NeoAnkara]

http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/227664/blogkey/1567065/

Apparently it broke 10k, which is HUGE for how dead the light novel industry as a whole is right now. Seems to do well for the eBook version too.

I think we just need to wait till countdown to anime is launched. I can see this as popular series in the long run.

[Kunagisa]

I think we just need to wait till countdown to anime is launched. I can see this as popular series in the long run.

I like your optimism, but seems a bit early to predict anything right now.

We do know a manga serialization is supposed to be coming this winter (NEEDLESS' mangaka). Hopefully that brings more people in. Promotion is too important and budgets are too limited. Anywayyyyy, read on and off for the past few days and finished the second arc while commuting and cooking. For the most part I enjoyed this quite a bit. Some random thoughts before I dive into the very, long arc three.



The infinite possibility thing extending both ways is something that I think is unique about this story.


Due to the yolo mechanic for NPCs, I feel like the players are more similar to NPCs due to being able to respawn, whereas the NPCs are more human like.
While I’m not entirely sure how this ties into the mentality of the Type Maiden Embryo wielders, I sure as hell LOVE the varieties of UBMs (unique boss monsters) due to this.

So far, the PvP aspect of it seems somewhat imbalanced, for around 100k players, 100 or less Super Jobs seem a lot. MCs are all special snowflakes, but I am not seeing any weakness for Ray especially after the equipment he got is literally perfect match for the Embryo upgrades. I suppose you can explain it as the game system being smart (and partially sentient really), but seems just screams convenient writing. BUT, because of some cliché, anything outside of the box can be surprisingly entertaining, so this is both a plus and minus.

The PvM aspect seems pretty damn fun though. I quite enjoy how arc 2 came out at the end. Having multiple phases through a fight is great. I do wish the fights are more hotblooded though, because the lack of real physical punishment, there needs to be more work on making the fights adrenaline rushing rather than seeing it passively playing out. GorsMaize is definitely better than Galdlander’s fight so I hope the trend continues. Though Jabberwock's revelation about Galdlander's supposed full potential is a great post hoc knowledge, I like the author's devotion to the settings.

However ... info dumping needs to be done in a slightly more refined way (and definitely not during a boss fight). To quote a friend regarding his complaint about this story, show rather than tell would've been better.

BearBro is TOO damn awesome, hope he shows up more later. Lost my shit when he cleared that map, also lost my shit at the flashback.

Nemesis is quite boring actually. This is my biggest complaint for this story. she needs more development. I am not even sure is she’s supposed to be a romantic interest at all. For a heroine, she’s as boring as it gets. Literally any side character with any sort of screen time is more interesting than her. She has 0 character besides being a weapon.


Speaking of romance, I do wish there is a bit more on this front but the story has been interesting enough that this is not needed.


I am quite ambivalent about Mary’s role reversal.

I also don’t like the random cultural references, I hope he makes them vaguer rather than just censoring the word with random ○mittance in the bunko version.

The story still lacks a clear central plot.


While this is advantageous for keeping readers interested, but the vagueness could also work against people’s view of the series as a whole. Ultimately, people do want to ask what’s the point of all this.
The hints that have been dropping here and there, such as Type Maidens and their Masters personalities, hints of the 14 AIs and God + 13 disciples during the lost technology era, and most glaringly IS THIS REALLY A GAME etc., do give ideas, but I hope the idea is more refreshing than VRMMO is real. The story needs something DIFFERENT, because let’s face it, anything VRMMO related is being labeled as a repeat of SAO, Log Horizon, and Overlord.



Those are just personal opinions, which are very likely subject to change on a whim, feel free to disagree. For others who read a lot more than me, this story might not be revolutionary; however, I do consider the settings rigorous. Hopefully the sales keep up and HJ continues to promote this series as I see some great potential (more BearBro!!).

HOLY SHIT CHAPTER/ARC 3'S AWESOME. I guess author-san really pulled out all stops for this.

Shunyu vs. Figaro
BEARBROOO
Hugo and Franklin
Rook's background
THAT MYSTERIOUS CHARACTER THAT LURKS IN THE BACKGROUND WITH THE LOLPET
etc. etc.


Officially a huge fan of this series.

PS: Mary a cute!

[Natsume01]

It really became quite famous. Sales are going well. I've seen a lot of fanart.
Is there really going to be a manga? (link please)

^ Could you give us some spoiler?

[amatsunagi]

my cute little sister recommended this to me and heya~! another fan is born here kujira~!!

[Kunagisa]

http://i.imgur.com/5sMRyn6m.jpg (https://twitter.com/Dendro_hj/status/806111152992178178)

Volume 2 cover.


Is there really going to be a manga? (link please)

^ Could you give us some spoiler?

https://twitter.com/Dendro_hj/status/793357684741251072

As for spoiler, not sure what sort you're interested in. I don't want to give away key-plot points cause from reading the translator's messages on his blog, he doesn't want to spoil much either.

Though best girl = the High Priestess!

[Natsume01]

^ Oh you beat me. I wanted to post about the volume 2 too.
Anyway, is it normal that they release one volume per month? And there's also a manga. That's quite something.
Who's the artist for the manga and when will it begin?

Thanks. You can spoil me by PM if you want (and have time).

The High Priestess? Who is she?

[Kunagisa]

Anyway, is it normal that they release one volume per month? And there's also a manga. That's quite something.
Who's the artist for the manga and when will it begin?
I think it's once every 2 months right now, which is fast for normal publications, but for Dendro, these are not new material so ... As for the manga, read second sentence of post #31 (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5987098#post5987098). You might've subconsciously glanced over it.


The High Priestess? Who is she?
The top clan ranking holder introduced in the epilogue of the prologue
Epilogue B: Grizzly Buddy’s Explanatory Course – “The ＜Master＞ and The First Steel vs Cavalry War” Edition
This chapter.

[Natsume01]

^ Yeah sorry, I just glanced over it. Thanks.

New translated chapter: Neme-chan crying...
Figaro first appearance. He was kind of cool, like how he said he'l take care of it and all... (negotiate, ahaha)

[The One Above God]

I'd definitely be swinging that longsword to all those Zombies just to hear that sweet, sweer BGM :heh:.

[amatsunagi]

waiting for the new arc to begin, and... lots of manly girls here, while in contrast with the guys (if you know what I mean...)

[Natsume01]

^^ Me too. Not that I'm sadist but she seemed really cute there. ahaha

^ Raw or translation?
Well, since you can read Japanese I guess you're talking about the raws.

[msg]

Default world

Alta - western medieval world (european)
Tenchi - eastern medieval world (more to japanese)
Huanghe - martial arts/mystical world (more to chinese)
kardeina - desert/sand dune world (middle eastern)
Drive - industrial/machine world
Gran valoa - floating sea city/maritime world
Legendaria - mythical fantasy dreaming world

Bonus/Extra/Hidden world (just my speculation...)

??? - underground prison hell world
??? - Floating sky city world
??? - Urban modern world
??? - underwater world
??? - space station city?

Volume 1 scans


Bearbro welcoming his little brother
http://i.imgur.com/e3xk8xV.png
Nemesis default "girl" form
http://i.imgur.com/C2Q4CCP.png
Liliana and her little sister
http://i.imgur.com/PAIqN9x.png
Figaro
http://i.imgur.com/VCQE8xZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/4MoIK7i.png
Nemesis and Babylon
http://i.imgur.com/lEWy1zk.png
Next evolution of Nemesis
http://i.imgur.com/8exOxhi.png

[NeoAnkara]

I wonder what is bigger than tank. A Gundam maybe?

[The One Above God]

*Maybe something similarly sized to Arc-Gurren?

[NeoAnkara]

Is this cover for second volume?

http://images.yomeru-hj.net/thumbnail/bunko_top/388x/20161215d3b049e5c1e4031513dae8e8dba250bf.png

[Natsume01]

^ Yep it is. It was already posted on page2.(A clean version)

[Kunagisa]

Default world

Alta - western medieval world (european)
Tenchi - eastern medieval world (more to japanese)
Huanghe - martial arts/mystical world (more to chinese)
kardeina - desert/sand dune world (middle eastern)
Drive - industrial/machine world
Gran valoa - floating sea city/maritime world
Legendaria - mythical fantasy dreaming world

Bonus/Extra/Hidden world (just my speculation...)

??? - underground prison hell world
??? - Floating sky city world
??? - Urban modern world
??? - underwater world
??? - space station city?


WTFFFF, how far have you read? I know there's a Prison (no idea where it is) but the rest I haven't seen any mention (I just finished the Songstress and Rose's side story that came after arc 4). They sound really awesome if true though. Would be some Bioshock level of awesome. When you say speculation, do you mean complete speculation or based-on some-stuff-mentioned speculation?


Volume 1 scans


http://i.imgur.com/4MoIK7i.png

This is Mary/Mari.

Also I think you had a hiccup and meant "Luke/Rook and Babylon" instead of "Nemesis and Babylon".

http://i.imgur.com/rsaVsrjm.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzeBhRvVIAAjbC6.jpg)
(link (https://twitter.com/Dendro_hj/status/808257094633652224))

This is Yugo/Hugo (far left) and Cuco (pronounced like Cute)/Qooco (the white loli).


This story has SO many characters, it's great.

[Natsume01]

^ Does Ray have beast-ears? And what's wrong with Neme-chan and the white loli?

[Kunagisa]

^ Does Ray have beast-ears? And what's wrong with Neme-chan and the white loli?

Si. The beast ear doesn't do much until volume 3 though. The girls are just fighting over food probably.

http://hobbyjapan.co.jp/comic/series/dendro/

Manga chapter 1 is out. I like the art quite a bit.


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Finally caught up, SUBM Gloria is broken as hell, a true raid boss. The side stories involving Bearbro and Sechs and most maxed out characters are soooo much fun (I seem to like all characters except for Franklin even if they're in opposing faction).

Seems like Sechs, Bearbro, Lolpet Owner (Beast King), Earth God and some of the IF members are in a totally different league of their own despite some other people also having Super Embryos.

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Went on 2ch to check some of the comments (since not afraid of spoilers anymore), seems like a lot of people agree that Nemesis' HP (Heroine Point) is too low and is actually a running gag more than anything. Characters like AAA are way more heroine-like. I don't dislike Nemesis or anything, but her character's just too plain. It's literally just gluttony and that's kinda it. Her HP peaked at the end of arc 2 and hasn't got anything since.

http://i.imgur.com/tPvFrPn.png

[Natsume01]

Hi there! I uploaded the new volume's illustrations here (http://imgur.com/a/RCRPo). (v02)

Can someone give us some spoilers about the relationship? (mc)

Oh and for those who want the first volume's illustrations on imgur go here (https://imgur.com/a/3XRrM). (v01)
It's easier to download the illustrations in a album on imgur.

[Kunagisa]

Hi there! I uploaded the new volume's illustrations here (http://imgur.com/a/RCRPo). (v02)

Can someone give us some spoilers about the relationship? (mc)


Thanks for the illustrations! I bought the volume myself yesterday because I couldn't resist the bonus story even though I absolutely hate this kind of purchase bait! Anyway, from the comments on twitter I think the author gave Nemesis more HP, so have to reread the volumes now when I have time.

Relationship wise, I assume you mean romantic relationships? Otherwise the characters are all just friends/comrades. The pictures near the end are the bosses for this chapter.

Nemesis is absolutely the main heroine even though at times she kinda falls off the radar. The author's intention is to not have a harem (at least he denies this series being one when asked), but have it more like a galge type where you enter this heroine's route for a bit and interact with her etc. In the story though, there is literally 0 romantic moments until Chapter 5. There are intimate/cute scenes, but not really romantic because they are one sided and don't linger. He also has several candidates that he think he might try to explore and give those characters more HP, but the last few times he did that Nemesis ended with more MP (Mascot Points), so he regret that (jokingly).

I don't feel the romance aspect is that big in the story. The plot is mostly just an ensemble cast with lots of fun characters doing stuff that come together as a grand narrative. Kinda like DRRR, Horizon, DanMachi in that aspect. The several characters that the author somewhat juggled as heroines are

(remember, you can choose gender type when you make your character, so some females do play as male, don't read beyond if you don't want the surprise ruined for you)
Franklin (she is into Ray in a negative way)
Hugo (though after the events of Chapter 3, kinda wandering around and got picked up by AR・I・CA in Caldina)
Tsukuyo (this route's dead unless her bodyguard gets removed, but in the comments there's a joking reply that she might be Ray's mistress)
BBB (got retarded amount of HP in chapter 4 that she is not allowed to appear in chapter 5)
AAA (completely overshadowed Nemesis in chapter 5 at the end and got a ton of HP as a result, even more than BBB)
Liliana (the first female in the series, many people mistaken her to be the heroine and since her job's somewhat close to Ray's, might make a come back at the end because Ray killed the "guy" who killed her father; that and her illustration's awesome)
Juliet (barely any screen time and talks like Ranko from IM@S, very popular among readers for that reason)

[Natsume01]

^ Your welcome! Ahaha yeah, me too. Seriously all authors should post the bonus story(SS) on syosetsu, even if they delay it for a few weeks after the release of the LN. So many SS are lost because of this...

Arg, a shame I didn't read past the translations. Don't even know who are the characters.
But I completely agree with you on Liliana (her illustrations are good). :D

As long as there is some romance, it's good. A story without can be a little dull with time. But from the translations, this one seemed good even without it (at least in the beginning).

Honestly when you said the player can choose the gender I thought you'll say that some male playing with a female avatar will be into the MC. Glad it was the other way. What's the deal with Tsukuyo? Can I take it as the bodyguard being in love with her or just he/she is overprotective?

Thanks for the spoiler! If you have time and don't mind, could you post other spoilers later. (at least about the bonus story since the translator may never translate it)
Oh is there a lot of differences between the WN and the LN?

[The One Above God]

Wow, the illustrations are great. Thanks for them :D.

[Kunagisa]

What's the deal with Fukuyo? Can I take it as the bodyguard being in love with her or just he/she is overprotective?
The bodyguard is also kinda like her butler. Not those overprotective ones you see in anime, and is actually a pretty chill character. Unsured if romantically engaged in Fukuyo, but the two's abilities in game complement each other quite well. Also goes to the same college as Fukuyo and Reiji in real life (Tokyo U).

Thanks for the spoiler! If you have time and don't mind, could you post other spoilers later.
This is difficult to do as previously mentioned I am not sure what people are interested in. The story itself is broad is continue expansion of previously established materials. Some discussion of the later materials require writing summaries of the previous chapters etc. There are dedicated wikis devoted to the series due to the amount of information. Think it's around 7-10 volumes of Bunko length right now.
Japanese: http://wikiwiki.jp/dendro/
Korean: https://namu.wiki/w/Infinite%20Dendrogram

(at least about the bonus story since the translator may never translate it)
The twitter SS briefly mentions 冥王 (Pluto/Hades/King of the Underworld, not sure the intended translation is) who goes by the name Benetnasch, also a Type Maiden master with Tier 7 Embryo. He helped stop a Machine/Mazin Gear prototype from going berserk. The robot is tested in the facility that is ran by the biggest clan in Drive that Hugo belongs to, and is supposed to not require a pilot by running solely on grudge/malice as an energy source (collected by Benetnasch). Benetnasch himself is unaffiliated with any country, and seems to be a person that blames himself for everything that goes wrong around him.

PS: This character's a huge bait to buy this volume because this guy, Sechs, Ray are like the three that Cheshire's most interested in (each system AI has their own special interest, such as Humpty most interested in BearBro etc.), but has never showed up even once in the main story yet.

The Bookwalker SS is Ray asking Hugo whether if Hugo can just pilot robots if he has the appropriate piloting skill. Hugo explains by gaining that skill, you get like a sensory guide that projects into your sense in how to operate the robot. At low level, the image comes slower, but at higher level it's almost natural instantaneous. However, the skill is still just a support tool that appends to your conscious action. If the movement you want to use is incorrect to begin with, the operation still fails.

Oh is there a lot of differences between the WN and the LN?
Not sure, will report back when I find time to reread unless others beat me to it first.

PPS: Happy New Year everyone!

[Natsume01]

^ Thanks for the summary of the SS and the wiki (already found it before though).

OK, I'll wait until you reread it.

Thank you! Happy New Year to you. (Well there is still 4hours left for me though.)

[Natsume01]

Infinite Dendrogram Volume 3 Cover (Low Res):
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17201047_353854018345274_9036433989655538921_n.jpg ?oh=82e0cbff286c2c19d7aa66cf0fdbd49c&oe=596BAC62

[The One Above God]

Oh, bear-bro is in the cover too :D.

[Kunagisa]

Translation started again by another group (I'm sure some of you know that already).

Anyway, we may be able to see Nemesis's 4th form soon (author's debating if he should leave that for Chapter 7 or introduce at late Chapter 6; story is at around mid-Chapter 6 so far). We also have confirmation on Beast King

(named Behemot)'s identity is really a (lol)pet in the form of porcupine and Embryo is Type Maiden with Guardner named Leviathan (so the humanoid is actually the Embryo and the animal is the Master/player). Behemot is probably one of the strongest Master right now.

The absolute SSS ranked characters are probably

Behemot: nickname'd Physical Strongest; BearBro delivered a full punch to Leviathan and She fully healed with just a weak potion
BearBro: Embryo is Type Guardian Fortress Gear Weapon, a quadruple high end hybrid of the four basic types of Guardner, Castle, Chariot, and Arms. Last form is a freaking Super Robot.
Fatum: nicknamed Magic Strongest; BearBro fought him to a standstill before AI interfered because they were wrecking GM made dungeons with collateral damage; Emybro is 【Holy Chalice of Un-Thirst, Grarl】.
Hannya: Embryo is Type Apostle with Angel Gear named 【Imprisonment Angel, Sandalphon】; her old boyfriend dumped her in real life for a girl in Dendro, she got mad and went to fuck up Legendaria because her old boyfriend was there, then got sent to Prison. She met Figaro before and is madly in love with him, but he really just wanted to duel with her. Current arc's about her finally get to leave prison to meet Figaro (wrecking Gideon right now because she saw Figaro with Fusou together). Type Apostle is even rarer than Type Maiden and given to players who started playing Dendro but hates/hated the game.
Fuuta: Embryo 【Demise Encroachment, Apocalypse】; Type Apostle but the guy's level 0 (he's around 10 years old in real life), hates Dendro and wants to destroy the game. Has ability to cause bugs in the game, barely appeared in a side story chapter once. Is in Prison and is somewhat controlled by Hannya at the time because Type Apostles can exert influence over the game physics. Currently soloing the only dungeon in Prison.
???: nicknamed Technique Strongest, some Master in Tenchi realm.
Sechs: Embryo is Type Body【Primordial Shapeless, Nun】, a type even rarer than Type Apostle (?). One of the two Masters that Cheshira cat is really interested in (other being the main character Rey). Completely devoted to role-playing the role of evil because he rolled a dice when started playing the game and got 6 (his name is German 6), which represented being a criminal. His personality's super nice, but is the current biggest criminal in the game. Very friendly with BearBro, but BearBro is the one who sent him to Prison (he doesn't mind though). Also the Clan Owner of the international criminal group IF (Illegal Frontier).


There are like some Tians who are ridiculously strong too

Dragonic Emperor who is born in Yellow River every few generations. The last one has passed away but could solo UBMs and even "tame" them for personal use, Job Level over 2000 ... (BearBro's only 1k something).
In a similar vein, Alter Kingdom's royal bloodline give rise a progeny with blue hair that can wield the [Sword of Origin, Alter], which can even severe formless things like space and energy; current wielder is the incumbent Empress Altimia Azurite Alter with the job Sacred Princess.
There is also a job call Great Philosopher that ... seems to be immortal (guy has been alive through two civilizations, and the first one is the one with the uber old technology that lost to the Avatars, which are actually the management AIs (GMs).


I really hope the translation continues, this story's sooo fun! There are a lot of Narou readers on this board, but for some reason this one just doesn't seem to attract people. I wonder why that is.

[Rinvelt]

^Don't know about the others, but from what I remember the story is pretty well detailed, so I would rather improve my Japanese before reading it to not miss too much details.

[The One Above God]

Translation started again by another group (I'm sure some of you know that already).

Anyway, we may be able to see Nemesis's 4th form soon (author's debating if he should leave that for Chapter 7 or introduce at late Chapter 6; story is at around mid-Chapter 6 so far). We also have confirmation on Beast King

(named Behemot)'s identity is really a (lol)pet in the form of porcupine and Embryo is Type Maiden with Guardner named Leviathan (so the humanoid is actually the Embryo and the animal is the Master/player). Behemot is probably one of the strongest Master right now.

The absolute SSS ranked characters are probably

Behemot: nickname'd Physical Strongest; BearBro delivered a full punch to Leviathan and She fully healed with just a weak potion
BearBro: Embryo is Type Guardian Fortress Gear Weapon, a quadruple high end hybrid of the four basic types of Guardner, Castle, Chariot, and Arms. Last form is a freaking Super Robot.
Fatum: nicknamed Magic Strongest; BearBro fought him to a standstill before AI interfered because they were wrecking GM made dungeons with collateral damage; Emybro is 【Holy Chalice of Un-Thirst, Grarl】.
Hannya: Embryo is Type Apostle with Angel Gear named 【Imprisonment Angel, Sandalphon】; her old boyfriend dumped her in real life for a girl in Dendro, she got mad and went to fuck up Legendaria because her old boyfriend was there, then got sent to Prison. She met Figaro before and is madly in love with him, but he really just wanted to duel with her. Current arc's about her finally get to leave prison to meet Figaro (wrecking Gideon right now because she saw Figaro with Fusou together). Type Apostle is even rarer than Type Maiden and given to players who started playing Dendro but hates/hated the game.
Fuuta: Embryo 【Demise Encroachment, Apocalypse】; Type Apostle but the guy's level 0 (he's around 10 years old in real life), hates Dendro and wants to destroy the game. Has ability to cause bugs in the game, barely appeared in a side story chapter once. Is in Prison and is somewhat controlled by Hannya at the time because Type Apostles can exert influence over the game physics. Currently soloing the only dungeon in Prison.
???: nicknamed Technique Strongest, some Master in Tenchi realm.
Sechs: Embryo is Type Body【Primordial Shapeless, Nun】, a type even rarer than Type Apostle (?). One of the two Masters that Cheshira cat is really interested in (other being the main character Rey). Completely devoted to role-playing the role of evil because he rolled a dice when started playing the game and got 6 (his name is German 6), which represented being a criminal. His personality's super nice, but is the current biggest criminal in the game. Very friendly with BearBro, but BearBro is the one who sent him to Prison (he doesn't mind though). Also the Clan Owner of the international criminal group IF (Illegal Frontier).


There are like some Tians who are ridiculously strong too

Dragonic Emperor who is born in Yellow River every few generations. The last one has passed away but could solo UBMs and even "tame" them for personal use, Job Level over 2000 ... (BearBro's only 1k something).
In a similar vein, Alter Kingdom's royal bloodline give rise a progeny with blue hair that can wield the [Sword of Origin, Alter], which can even severe formless things like space and energy; current wielder is the incumbent Empress Altimia Azurite Alter with the job Sacred Princess.
There is also a job call Great Philosopher that ... seems to be immortal (guy has been alive through two civilizations, and the first one is the one with the uber old technology that lost to the Avatars, which are actually the management AIs (GMs).


I really hope the translation continues, this story's sooo fun! There are a lot of Narou readers on this board, but for some reason this one just doesn't seem to attract people. I wonder why that is.

What broken characters. Playing earlier is really an advantage.

[Natsume01]

This may get licensed by J-Novel Club. So there should be more people here.
I really hope this is the novel they'll license. I so want to read the light novel.

^^^ Thanks for the spoilers!
Really a pet playing the game?
Glad someone picked up the webnovel too.

[sparhawk1610]

Ok it is confirmed, it is licensed by J-Novel

[Natsume01]

And Yep, it has been licensed by J-Novel. Great!!
A great light novel translated by a great team.

[LKK]

Thread has been updated with licensed prefix. All rules regarding licensed material are now in effect.

[Kunagisa]

What broken characters. Playing earlier is really an advantage.

Early does have an advantage, but not in terms of embryo growth or leveling. And I think the author tries to turn the whole thing into an elemental wheel, so even if you seem really OP, there is another character who likely can wreck you.


Really a pet playing the game?

Her avatar's a pet, but yeah. I call her lolpet because I think she's American in real life, so she says lines like "gg", "k", "lol", "thx", which seemed really out of place at the time for me.

And Yep, it has been licensed by J-Novel. Great!!
A great light novel translated by a great team.

Wow, this is great. I wonder why they decided to go with Dendro instead of the more popular one like Seirei Gensouki. Well I'm not complaining either way.

This means the fan translation will stop right? Would be cool if fan translator can at least continue the later side stories, which probably won't be incorporated into publication for a while. I think Episode Superior II, Superior Out Law, and Superior III (personal favorite arc of the entire thing) all don't involve that many spoilers.

Also, chapter 5 of the manga is delayed to the 12th, wonder if there will be an announcement (probably not).

[Village Idiot]

From what I gather from Quarkboy's comments on forums, he really likes this series.

Also its a series thats likely to get an anime adaption in the near future.

[The One Above God]

^I'd give it 3-5 more volumes. Same with Tsujo Kogeki.

[Natsume01]

Can someone spoil me about what's this? "■■■"
It's from when Nemesis evolved to her second form. I've seen this a lot of times since then.

[Kunagisa]

Can someone spoil me about what's this? "■■■"
It's from when Nemesis evolved to her second form. I've seen this a lot of times since then.

Still not explained as of the latest chapters, but Apostles have that ability as well. This is probably connected to the main story line, and the hints for that came from Chapter 5 of the web, so maybe like volume 7 or 8 of the bunko? Or 9-10 if the side stories get included?

[Natsume01]

^ Yeah I know about the Apostle. It was said by Tsukiyo's Embryo. When Tsukiyo kidnapped Ray and Nemesis: Kaguya told Nemesis that she should cancel it until the last evolution (Form VII) if it comes again.

I suppose it's better to read the Side Stories in-between the Chapters. I skipped the Valentine Extra though.
Figaro was quite an interesting character. I wonder why he didn't help get rid of the Goz-whatever bandits. Maybe because he couldn't fight while protecting the children because of it's inability to fight in group.
Am I the only one who felt sad for the UBM Wolf?

What do you think about Nemesis' skills? They are good but really hard to use with the conditions and cooldown time.

I may wait until J-Novel translate the three volumes before restarting it.
Is there any date for v04? And illustrations for v03?

[Kunagisa]

^ Yeah I know about the Apostle. It was said by Kaguya
Speaking of her, I think she has the coolest name (Type Maiden with Invasion World).

I suppose it's better to read the Side Stories in-between the Chapters. I skipped the Valentine Extra though.

The Valentine chapter is pretty quick and actually does tie into the latest arc, otherwise it's a bit weird reading Chapter 6.

Figaro was quite an interesting character. I wonder why he didn't help get rid of the Goz-whatever bandits. Maybe because he couldn't fight while protecting the children because of it's inability to fight in group.
I do not think anyone actually knows what the bandit and their necromancy goal was with the children right? I mean the Superiors aren't world police, so they probably is busy doing their own thing.

Am I the only one who felt sad for the UBM Wolf?
Well they are sentient at this point ...

What do you think about Nemesis' skills? They are good but really hard to use with the conditions and cooldown time.
They are all pretty good except for the Third Form. Luke's is way cooler though.

Is there any date for v04? And illustrations for v03?
No date yet, and most illustrations are on official twitter around April Fool, but the scans are out too if you want all of them.

[Natsume01]

^ Well, they all knew what happened to the children right?
I mean, they were kidnapped and they sent their fingers or whatever. Then why did he thank Ray for it?
Yeah they aren't world police but still, they are so strong they could finish it super quickly.
Then again, what you said is true too, especially with Franklin. Just look at how much damage she could have done if not for Ray and Kuma-niisan.

I first thought that << Revenge is Mine >> could be used on anyone even if they weren't the one who hit him. But then I guess it'd have been too overpowered since he'd just too accumulate damage by himself and then use it on a UBM or Boss Monster.
Luke's skill are too OP, I mean what the hell is wrong with << Drain Learning >>? and << Union Jack >>

For the valentine chapter: yeah I'll read it before I read chapter 06 since I've seen some spoiler for Figaro.

Do you remember this scene: made me laugh.　――まさか、私が真犯人だとバレているの!?

　ありえない。
　昼の会話だけで、私が犯人と気づくだなんて… 。
　質問への受け答えも、話題の振り方も完璧だったはずなのに！
　あのクソザコは… 天才か何かだとでも言うの!?


It's from the last chapter of Kuma-niisan & Luke's Gaiden. (or the chapter before)

[Kunagisa]

^ Well, they all knew what happened to the children right?
I mean, they were kidnapped and they sent their fingers or whatever. Then why did he thank Ray for it?
Yeah they aren't world police but still, they are so strong they could finish it super quickly.
Then again, what you said is true too, especially with Franklin. Just look at how much damage she could have done if not for Ray and Kuma-niisan.

The response also hugely depends on whether you treat that as a quest or saving lives. This is the equivalent of going to a level 19 area to kill a cannibal quest boss monster when as a level 100 player; even if the quest description has vivid descriptions of the brutality of the acts, the interest is just not there for most non-Maiden Masters.


Do you remember this scene: made me laugh.
It's from the last chapter of Kuma-niisan & Luke's Gaiden. (or the chapter before)
That's why people call her バカーベラ instead of ガーベラ!

And speaking of Figaro from before, congratulations for the marriage proposal being accepted lol. I REALLY wasn't expecting that.
Also, we see Reirei's character design AND real life in the manga.

[Natsume01]

^ Yeah it suits her pretty well. Ahaha!

In which chapter does she appear? I hope someone is going to translate the manga.

Is there any relation between the 'Incarnations' that destroyed the Ancient Civilization and the Management AI?
Or rather I'm pretty sure it's them. It was said that there was Thirteen 'Incarnation' and IIRC there is 13 Management AI.
Why did they destroy everything 2000 years ago?

[Kunagisa]

^ Yeah it suits her pretty well. Ahaha!

In which chapter does she appear? I hope someone is going to translate the manga.

Is there any relation between the 'Incarnations' that destroyed the Ancient Civilization and the Management AI?
Or rather I'm pretty sure it's them. It was said that there was Thirteen 'Incarnation' and IIRC there is 13 Management AI.
Why did they destroy everything 2000 years ago?

Chapter 4 for her in game avatar, and chapter 5 for her real/live form.

Yeah, the Avatars are the ones that wrecked the pre-previous civilization. The story still hasn't explained why though. Chapter 5 explicitly tells you Chesha is the Avatar of Beast. All 13 AIs are all infinity forms and part of the Infinite Embryo series. Chesha is Type Infinite Legion and Tweedledum and Tweedledee (AI #11) are Type Infinite Calculator.

The AIs' goals are to figure out ways to force the Embryos to evolve, some creates SUBM, others set the Masters up so they fight among each other etc. I guess the pre-previous civilization was too technologically advance? They have to take them out so the Masters can start playing the game or something. There is barely anything for the past except that we know the AIs didn't exactly wipe them out completely. The Great Philosopher is the same person who was alive from that era that keeps coming back (with intact memories despite being killed) to create crazy technologies that is supposed to be able to kill the Avatars eventually.

Also, web chapter 6 is done, and we're going into another side story for Hugo and AR・I・CA. I wonder how long this story's gonna be ...

[Natsume01]

Thanks, will check it out later.

Oh yeah, I've read it. I kind of knew it when it was said that Tom Cat's power was to create 7 doubles of himself which are just as strong as him, and that he is not a player.
Oh, you're talking about Fragman, right? The genius inventor/scientist. According to the name he wrote in the last ruins discovered (in the Kingdom), it seems he is also the Great Sage from the Kingdom, the one who supposedly died in the war. I said supposedly because I really doubt someone like him will die here like that.

In the extra where Kuma-niisan become the [Destruction King,
what did Zex wanted from him?
And Chesire destroyed the robot leader from the Ruins because he had a job list and it's said that Zex has one too so why did he not take it back?
Even considering he is a <Master>, I doubt it's something they should let a player have.

According to the other, it's only the first part of Chapter 06 that's over. (Didn't read past Chapter 05 so I'm not sure, I just glanced at last lines of the last chapters.)
For the new gaiden with Yuugo, I think it should only lasts 4/5 chapters like the others gaiden, or so I hope. I don't want it to last as much as the one about Figaro and some others.

[Kunagisa]

In the extra where Kuma-niisan become the [Destruction King,
what did Zex wanted from him?
And Chesire destroyed the robot leader from the Ruins because he had a job list and it's said that Zex has one too so why did he not take it back?
Even considering he is a <Master>, I doubt it's something they should let a player have.

I don't think Zechs have the complete list, he just had the job requirements for Destruction King, which was consider lost information at the time. Zircon Leader just have the archive of all the jobs, I wouldn't be surprise if It had the information on the job requirements are as well. I do not think anyone at the current age (besides Fragman) knows that Cat God is not a real job title.



According to the other, it's only the first part of Chapter 06 that's over. (Didn't read past Chapter 05 so I'm not sure, I just glanced at last lines of the last chapters.)
For the new gaiden with Yuugo, I think it should only lasts 4/5 chapters like the others gaiden, or so I hope. I don't want it to last as much as the one about Figaro and some others.
Oh yeah, you're right about it being only the first half. I wonder why he split it, don't think he has done that before with any other chapters. Since the side story is between Chapter 5 and 6, I feel like he wants to introduce some stuff that links to the second half. I rather like AR・I・CA (well, more like I like her Super Embryo Cassandra), so I think I will enjoy this. At the same time though, I really want him to continue to chapter because Drive will probably invade soon (Godzilla vs. Super Robot!!!).

[Natsume01]

So I read some chapters.
This one made me really laugh. Really, the title of that one chapter really was fitting. Holy Knight(Dark Knight): the chapter were he met AAA.
このまま放置すれば、惨劇になるかもしれない。
　これは止める必要があると思い、俺も三人に続いて車内から降りることにする。


　状態異常警戒してネメシスは黒旗斧槍、両手の【瘴焔手甲】の噴射口は開けて、MPやSP出せるように【紫 怨走甲】もスキル起動、【黒纏套】のフードは被って、【ストームフェイス】も装備して… これでよし。
　俺は竜車を降りて、戦闘という名の惨劇に入る寸前だった面々に声をかける。

「先輩もアズライトも落ち着いてくれ。そいつらどう見ても戦意が失せて」

　俺が制止の言葉を言い掛けると、

「ぎゃあああああああああ!?」
「バケモノの親玉だあああああ!!?」
「おがあちゃあああああん!!」

　先ほど以上の阿鼻叫喚の悲鳴をあげたり、山賊達は気絶したり、地に伏して頭を擦りつけ始めた 。
　逃げようとしているのに、腰が抜けて立てない奴までいる。

「… Why？」

　まるで三人の怪人… もとい女性よりも恐ろしいものを見たかのような山賊の反応に、俺は首を傾げるしかなかった。

And this one too. He really loves the gacha. If not for Nemesis, he'll use all his money on it. Well she couldn't stop from betting that much money on the fight Figaro vs Jinu(how is it written?) and Cashmere vs Tom Cat. At least he's winning (for now).
「御主、もうギャンブルするな。怖い」

　心の底から吐き出すような声でそう言ったのだった。
　何と返したものか悩んで、俺の口から出てきた言葉は、

「… … ガチャはギャンブルに入りますか？」

　回答は毎度お馴染みのドロップキックだった。

Really, how can they hide it from him that it's not a little brother but a little sister? Well, now they'll surprise so much, he'll have a heart attack. The only way is to do it in game and wait until he's okay to log out. But our Catherine Kongo won't since (s)he won't show the avatar (s)he made.
And this: Otoko no karada to onna-rashisa = muteki (lol). You're the only one who's thinking this, dear Catherine. Look how the children ran away when you appeared.
I love when she says 'Watashi ganbatta'. Don't why. Sounds cute.

Oh and Jinu, is she really 10 years old? So mature~ Even Chesa is wondering if she's not older. Smarter than Luke when it's about love.

I don't really ARICA. She's kind of a pain and such a sl**. Is she in heat all the time?
She even tried to make moves on Yugo. Fortunately for Yugo, (s)he's a minor.
I completely agree with Kyuuko(Cocytus). 「しねばいいのに」

I wonder if you could post some detailed summary about [Hades]? There's absolutely nothing about him in the novel except that he's one of the three who understood Chesa's notion of liberty. (Zechs and Ray being the other two.)
Do you have any idea on IF's purpose? Really can't make a guess.

Completely agree with you. It's obvious the war is going to start again soon, with lolpet (like you call her) went back and the letter at the end of Part I. Godzilla vs Super Robot!! Now that's a fight I want to see.
My personal favorite in the extra chapter is Superior III. It's good. Though I must say I missed Ray. That's also why I didn't really like Chapter 6 Part I. Too much change of POV and little story
Except for Figaro's proposal. I mean, really while everyone was thinking of way to stop Hannya from exploding when she'll learn that Figaro wasn't in love with her, he was thinking of way to propose.
But it's going to be hard for him with his disease. That scene with his brother(sister) was funny. 「ちょ！？　兄さん！？　か、回復魔法！　サフィーネ……リアルにはいないよ!!　誰か！　主治医のウィン ストン先生呼んできて！？」

[Kunagisa]

Yes! The humor's great in the series. My favorite one's probably the bathing scene. I literally lol'ed for that one. By Jinu do you mean Shunyu? And speaking of 10 year olds, I can't believe Emily (Murder Princess/殺人姫) is also one ... though that makes the ending to the latest chapter that much more hilarious too. Poor Zhang (Chan)!

The theory that I support the most for IF's motive is that they want to create a Save/Safepoint for criminals, or hijack one of the existing ones, so even if the players are blacklisted everywhere else, the criminals do not have to go to Prison. Regarding 冥王 (King of Tartarus), besides what I typed the last page, considering King and Princess suffixes are job titles that focus on status boost, he probably has super high MP?

I don't see Superior III being surpassed by any other chapter any time soon. SUBM are just way too cool. I treat this story as an ensemble cast like DRRR and Kyoukaisen Horizon. I do not really mind if Ray's not the focus even for extended period of time. The characters are all pretty interesting.

[Natsume01]

^ Oh yeah, that bathing scene was so funny.
This is not read as Shunyu, right? ジンウ. It's how it's written in the color illustration of v03.
Yeah I was surprised that she was the Murder Princess.

That's an interesting theory but why would Tian help them for that when they can't use it?

Have you read any other SS that came together with the volume? If so, maybe you can post a summary whenever you can.

I agree with that: SUBM are pretty cool. But I really don't like when the POV changes too much. As long as it's an interesting character I don't mind if it's not for too long, like Superior III.
For example in Altina The Sword Princess, while Bastian is interesting, an entire volume with him and not with Regin/Altina/Clarisse was too much for me.

Do you have any idea of the author schedule (for updates)?

EDIT: New raw chapter~ I gotta say I love this new Embryo. She's so funny. What a costly and disgusting tea.
I wonder who is the Master they were talking about. Maybe it's finally time for [冥王](King of Tartarus) to appear in the main story (or technically in the gaiden)? He's got a Super Embryo and is not affiliated to any country. Why do I feel that the last line in the chapter was about the Embryo of our dear Kuma-niisan?

[Kunagisa]

This is not read as Shunyu, right? ジンウ. It's how it's written in the color illustration of v03.

○そういえば、[迅羽]の読みって[じんう]でいいんでしたっけ？
それとも、中国語ですか？ どこかに書いてあってかもしれませんけど、見つかりません。

(=ↀωↀ=)＜レイ達には「ジンウ」と聞こえてます

(=ↀωↀ=)＜迅羽本人は「シュンユー」と名づけたつもりで、人から名前を呼ばれるときもそう聞こえてい ます

(=ↀωↀ=)＜漢字など国によって読み方が違う場合にはこういうこともあります

Oh, I guess both are correct. I do not remember reading any ruby text in the web version, so I never knew how he actually imagine it to sound like.


That's an interesting theory but why would Tian help them for that when they can't use it?

Well, to control that point, they would have to take over the surrounding area. Wanted Tians can also make use of that.

Have you read any other SS that came together with the volume? If so, maybe you can post a summary whenever you can.
The one for volume 3 is kinda lame. It's just a Q and A. The first one's actually regarding the pronunciation of Shunyu's name (I clearly haven't read this after I bought it); second one's about Bearbro's suit came from Tenchi; third is the names of all the system AIs, which are all uploaded to the wiki. And that's kinda it (yes super lame). I think he saved all the "good" side stories for the physical copies, which I'm not ordering for this series.



Do you have any idea of the author schedule (for updates)?

EDIT: New raw chapter~ I gotta say I love this new Embryo. She's so funny. What a costly and disgusting tea.
I wonder who is the Master they were talking about. Maybe it's finally time for [冥王](King of Tartarus) to appear in the main story (or technically in the gaiden)? He's got a Super Embryo and is not affiliated to any country. Why do I feel that the last line in the chapter was about the Embryo of our dear Kuma-niisan?
No idea for both. Last line's definitely Bearbro and referring to the "boss" of Chapter 5. The lost techs are pretty crazy too. Wonder how strong 機皇 was when he died. Has to be rivaling Dragonic Emperor right?

[Natsume01]

Ohh, it's the difference from Chinese and Japanese kanji.
They heard it differently because of the "game" automatic translation.
Well, we were both correct. :D

Yeah, it's kinda lame... I didn't know you could get SS when buying digital copies. So there's still a lot of SS which you haven't read? I'm not familiar with buying light novels.

Who is this " 機皇"? Is that the super class for Drive(Drife)?
Well, it's not anything new that the Lost Tech are crazy. You don't remember that Accra Vesta? And many others. Seriously Fragman is monster too.
I don't remember reading anything on this. Nothing on the wiki as far as I searched.

As a side note, do you know how many characters a light novel volume has?
In syosetsu, it has 1,700,000 characters, how many volumes would that make?

I really like how he writes his chapters: like telling us where it is, who's POV it is and separate when the POV changes, unlike a lot of others. (Konjiki no Moji Tsukai for example)

[Kunagisa]

Yeah, it's kinda lame... I didn't know you could get SS when buying digital copies. So there's still a lot of SS which you haven't read? I'm not familiar with buying light novels.

Yeah ... at least 5 SS for volume 2 and 3. The twitter one is just the special campaign they did for this series. Volume one's Limited Edition comes with a fairly long SS and is about Bearbro's preparation for Ray's arrival (Dormouse and Theresia made appearance).

Who is this " 機皇"? Is that the super class for Drive(Drife)?
Chapter 5 first part.

Last king of the original lost civilization, Wolfgang Magna Zweier. This might be an unique job.

As a side note, do you know how many characters a light novel volume has?
In syosetsu, it has 1,700,000 characters, how many volumes would that make
According to Google, a standard ~300 pgs LN with ~20 throwaway pages (illustration and table of content etc.) is around 120k characters.

[Natsume01]

How many SS did you read? Did you have to buy several copies or they all came with one copy?
Did you read that SS with Kuma-niisan?
I think the author had posted a chapter with this subject (the preparation for Ray's arrival). Didn't read though. Will do it later.

Oh, completely forgot about this. I may haven glanced over it. Yeah, he should have been strong.

Thanks, I was wondering how many it was. Finally have my answer.

So if you read the light novel and are willing to write about it, were there any differences between the LN and WN?

[Kunagisa]

How many SS did you read? Did you have to buy several copies or they all came with one copy?
Did you read that SS with Kuma-niisan?

...

So if you read the light novel and are willing to write about it, were there any differences between the LN and WN?

None besides the twitter campaign because I just bought the ebooks. The SS with Bearbro's also packaged in the Korean and Taiwanese first volume I think. A friend read and briefed me on it.

I still have not actually read the bunko version myself.

[Natsume01]

New raw chapter~

Eating an ice cream using supersonic speed...
Wow it got quite dark at the end. So scary!
I knew it was a condition like 'Killing X people' but she really killed more than 10,000 people to have this Superior Job. What exactly happened to her?! Let's hope Chang won't become a Minus for her.
(or should we hope that he'll? One less criminal.)

[Natsume01]

Two new chapter~

Yeahhh, I knew it. "That guy" was 【冥王キング・オブ・タルタロス】ベネトナシュ.
Finally, he's in the main story (well in the gaiden). It's going to get interesting.
This arc is going to last a while, I think. It already has more chapter than the first 'Hugo' Gaiden.

EDIT 10/06:

New chapter~
Hmm. I hope ベネトナシュ will win the fight. Maybe there'll be three-way fight between him, ARICA and Emily.
I wonder what's the UBM (poke)ball ベネトナシュ wants. Oh and what's the promise between ARICA and Franklin.

[Kunagisa]

http://i.imgur.com/9bpTG3ul.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9bpTG3u.jpg)

Volume 4 cover looks pretty nice too. Love Mary's design. First time Nemesis human form not on cover.

I like Benetnasch and Persephone, more so than Rei and Nemesis. Persephone is super cute hahaha. Probably my favorite female character so far. Anyway, http://i.imgur.com/4KBGopy.png
Holy shit, was Benetnasch trying to summon Greatest One/グレイテスト・ワン (the first ever SUBM) here before he got interrupted? This guy's amazing!

[Natsume01]

^ The cover looks great!! Thanks.

You like them more than Rei when they barely appeared?!
Though I do like Persephone, she's cute alright.. About Benetnasch, there's not a lot about him so hard to say. (Still better than this ARICA).

No way?! I didn't even pay attention to that. Wouldn't he be too OP if he could summon a SUBM?

I wish they'll make Rei stronger than he is. I mean, his jobs are not that great, he barely has the Holy Knight(Paladin) and the other one for his silver horse.
While Hugo and Luke are getting way stronger, especially Luke.
It's taking really a long time for his Embryo to 'level up'.

EDIT:

「きっと、理解できるのはこの世界のために自分の心を磨り潰し、なお折れることができない・・・・【マスタ ー】だけであろうよ。そんな者が、旦那様以外にいるかは知らぬがな」

Yes there is. I hope they'll meet Rey soon. What Benetnasch wanted to with Franklin's clan is absorbing the grudge and transform into energy. They failed. Though Rey has the UBM (boots) to do exactly that.
It'll be pretty interesting if they meet.

[Kunagisa]

Benetnasch by himself's not that fun, but his personality contrasting with Persephone's makes the pair super hilarious to read. Nemesis just needs more character besides eats a lot.

Regarding Rei being weak, I was thinking he does have 3 UBM equipments already, and can hold his own pretty well, and then I read Emily's stats in the latest chapter ................... well yeah, Rei needs an amazing Superior Job down the road, problem is I do know if you can have a Knight class Superior Job that can be fun. Hugo probably is Emily's worst matchup though.

The whole concept of "Eliminate Mode" along with the "Minus" labeling leading to chain reaction is pretty awesome though. Literally death machine incarnate. Thank god she's not an AoE type otherwise that would've just been imba. No wonder she can go up against Sechs. I mean, the game's only two years old in game time, and assuming she starts playing day one, on average she have to kill ~50 people per day.

Side stories are just more fun than main stories right now, too bad J-novel can't just go ham and translate the web chapters as well. The latest manga chapter's great too, Nemesis making interesting faces and Figaro being boss.

[Natsume01]

^ Oops I forgot to read the last chapter. Since I checked at the exact time as the author posted (9pm in JP), I didn't notice the second chapter he posted one hour after that. I knew that he sometimes posts two chapters with one hour in-between but didn't think he'll do it now. Glad he did and it was longer than normal too. :D

Yeah, I really like Persephone for now. It's true that the author should give something else to Nemesis.

About Rei: the third UBM equipments is a bit hard to use. It would have been better if he could also use it when it's not fully charged. Like the UBM did, just shooting some Solar Beam.
Well, he could get the [Heavenly Knight] job, the one from Liliana's father. Well she is also a candidate for it.
I really hope he'll get a good one, and that his Embryo will quickly evolve and give him a skill he could use more.
Seriously, Luke is kind of OP compared to him, Hugo too I guess.
Well, it's kind of hard to compare them since they kind of specialize in different form of battle.
Rei = Boss Killing
Luke = Group PvE
Hugo = battle against monster/player who killed their own kind.

About Emily: WHAT THE HELL?!! She's so strong.
She killed more than 3 times the number she needed to have her Superior Job.
(It was 10k, right?) But seriously 36550 humans? That's freaking scary, especially since she's more of a 1vs1. Like you said if she was an AoE Type, I don't know how many cities would have fallen. I'm pretty she would have been stronger than our Kuma-niisan.
The 'chain' thing is awesome, but it's freaking scary and I feel bad for the one who just tried to help her (like the three women Masters).

50 per day on average!? That's a lot.

Side Stories are more fun for you maybe because we get to see some really OverPowered characters in action. I still really like the Main Story.
Yeah, that'll be good if they could translate the WebNovel after they finish translating the 3 first volumes and the 4th that's most the 1st July.

[Natsume01]

Man, isn't she way too OP?!!
What the hell is that skill?
She's basically immortal. It'll be way too hard to kill her for good.
Isn't she the one who has the most 'synergy' (is that the word) between her Embryo, her Superior Job and most of all her personality?
As long as she kills, she will earns 1 point of status for everything and 'resources' to come back to life if she was killed.

Still, if Hugo don't stop using his skills and kills her every time, and someone protects her in case Emily attacks with her Embryo(weapons), they could still deal with her. Hugo is basically the worst enemy Emily could have.
ある【マスター】は、仕様で定められたスキルの性能すらも大幅に書き替える。
　ある【マスター】は、視えない筈の未来を視る。
　そしてある【マスター】は、ただ独りで数万の軍団を作り上げる。
These sentences: is it that demons-user (don't remember his name) Rei beat, ARICA and Franklin respectively?


EDIT:
New chapter~

So Hugo beat Emily. I wonder if it'll really end that way. That shield is good.
『あなたは、なぜ【殺人姫】になってしまったのだろう… 』
I would like to know too. Hope the author will tell us one day.

How many will there be for this gaiden? It's pretty long now; is it going to lasts as much as the Gloria one?
While I wouldn't have mind, I really want to go back to the main story. It just come close to re-starting the War. Really want to read that.

[Natsume01]

Two new chapters~

That ARICA, she really took Emily(Ice) and dumped her in a river.
I guess that was a good choice, at least now there won't be any damage to the city by those who will try to rescue Emily and Emily herself won't kill anymore.

This piece of sh** of mayor really has to die. So he was the one responsible on moving the army so that the Kingdom can't intervene in eliminating the Bandit Group.
I really thought that the UBM will betray him and that the corpses was something it needed. This development wasn't bad though.
The mayor really deserves what happened to him. Serves him right.
The author really choose a fitting end for him (that last sentence of him...).
But man, how disgusting. It reminds that manga about zombies. Hmmm, Infection was the name I think. It was disgusting with all the worms in the mouth, eyes and ears.
I completely agree with the last person who spoke (at the end, don't remember which one it was, Zechs I think). I wouldn't want to see an illustration of that boss.

EDIT: (04/07)

New chapter~~
Man that thing is so disgusting. Having maggot in your body with just a scratch. I'll never fight with that.
It's the natural enemy of Ray, I think. Because of the body made of many maggots, he can't use Revenge is Mine and also because he can't afford to take hit (hit=maggot in his body). He could use the UBM equipment (fire+status) but it'll be a long battle.

@Kunagisa, you were right, or at least HALF right. (no pun intended)

「目覚めよ――《地に立つ一騎当千グレイテスト・ボトム》」
He just summoned the bottom half of the Greatest One, the first SUBM.

[Village Idiot]

Volume 1 is officially released by JNC, and they're half way done with vol 2 for their pre-release.

This series is every bit as good as it had been said.

This is probably the best VRMMO LN I've read so far.

[Lenox]

Looking at the speed at which J-Novel is translating this I kind of wish Overlord and Kumoko were picked up by them as opposed to YP, what do you guys think?

[Natsume01]

^ I think it's off-topic here.
Well, I'd rather have them take any projects. They're the best. Can't even compare them to YP.

So finally got to read the new chapters.
As always, it's amazing. Benet' is really strong (or well his "friends" are). Persephone's skill is pretty cool, as long as he used it for people he trusts.

So it's finally the end. Took quite a bit of time. I was finally expecting to see what'll happen after Figaro's love problem conclusion.
But now I have to wait for two whole weeks... :(

[Natsume01]

Two new chapters. Finally, was tired of waiting.

What a surprise. I really didn't expect The Great Sage to be the one behind the war, I thought it was one of the AI. I guess it does makes sense but the AI won't necessarily move right? It's something they would have wanted too (they did throw Gloria in the Kingdom; even if it wasn't something all the AI wanted).
That piece of **** of Emperor better not take AAA. Already don't like him.
I hope she won't accept the peace talk (at least not for the terms he'll propose).
I didn't really like the sister too. They killer her father, put her and her sisters in danger, and she goes there saying she won't forgive him if they assassinate her. Or did I misread and she just wanted to battle her 'fair and square'?

Well, excited to see how it goes and kind of felt sad Ray still isn't here.

[Kunagisa]

I actually think n285 is one of the most hyped chapters from this series. I got goosebumps reading it.

For one, the author did a really clever word play with the chapter title. Now I understand why he used アイのカタチ, which is just 愛の形 for the first half, but the second half is アイ(私)のカタチ, so that means he did a word play with Ai = Love = "I" (English).

This is especially cool since 機皇 appeared once again(!) The only person who could've been speaking at that point is Reinhart, but the name was blocked off. Is Reinhart completely human? The words he used to describe himself could be actually literal instead of figurative, so he he could very well be part robot. Claudia looks EXACTLY like him. Base on the wording, we do not even know if she's actually a different entity from him. When she finished talking, her presence vanished, NOT exited from the room. The wording is extremely ambiguous.

Reinhart and Claudia can be the same person. I think the author deliberately set their genders differently to mislead the leader but still made Claudia's chest washboard (lol). If Reinhart is 機皇 for sure, but 機皇 is not Reinhart. What if Reinhart/Claudia/機皇 is all a single entity with multiple personality disorder? This would make sense give the new title 'The Shape of "I"'. If Fragman survived over two thousand years and he served 機皇 during prior civilization period, makes sense 機皇 can preserve himself, in a way, for that long as well.

We could be potentially looking at 【機械王】King of Mechanism/【衝神】The Ram/【機皇】trinity being one of the powerful "unit" in the story right now.

Amazing chapter. Really hope I'm not over interpreting this.

I still can't believe this is the author's debut work. Hopefully more goes into promoting this series. Kinda sucks only us two are discussing the web (especially the Web Novel forum being so active here at AS).

[Natsume01]

Wow, you thought it through. Man, I'd have never thought of that. It seems interesting.
It's true that Altimia never saw both of them together. So rather than twin,
it'll be two mind in the same body. Would make sense that Altimia mistake Reinhart as Claudia. Now that I read what you wrote, I remembered I kind of felt a bit weird when AAA met Reinhart. After Reinhart told her to don't speak, she never when out and they never talk about her anymore.
So if they were in the same body it would kind of make sense. Gifted never thought anything of it because they are family so he knows.
If what you said is really true, it'll be kind of broken, with three Superior Job in one body.
It's shown that they can discuss one to another so they could potentially use the skill/stats of each job without changing.

Well let's see how it goes. Still won't change my mind on Altimia refusing him.

True, it's really amazing, especially after you've read all those WN with story barely readable/obvious story line.

I did find it quite odd that no one discusses of this here except us. Well with the amazing job of J-Novel some new fans will come here. It got some good reviews.
The premium version has the store short story too. :D

[amatsunagi]

Well, since this is the light novel section, I refrain myself from mentioning much of the web novel version here lol

[Village Idiot]

LN2 has just been completed by JNC.

Oh wow, Hugo is so far my favorite character.

I love how the author made him out to be the plucky comic relief and it turns out he was anything but. I completely fell for it.

I love his internal struggle over what Hugo the Character and Hugo the Player wants.

Anxiously waiting for LN3.

Apparently the first arc will be four volumes long.

[Village Idiot]

Volume 2 has officially been released by JNC.

[The One Above God]

Manga translation came out.

[Kunagisa]

https://bookwalker.jp/lvote2017/result/

First place for new series for a BookWalker hosted contest.

[Village Idiot]

https://bookwalker.jp/lvote2017/result/

First place for new series for a BookWalker hosted contest.

We are definitely going to see an anime adaption soon.

Volume 4 supposedly concludes the first arc, may be a good place to end a season.

[Kunagisa]

We are definitely going to see an anime adaption soon.

Volume 4 supposedly concludes the first arc, may be a good place to end a season.

Volume 5 does.
Though what I like most about Dendro is mostly the side stories, if only we can get those animated somehow. Seems unlikely though. Would at least want to see them comicalized.

Can't wait for the 4th form reveal.

[Zen Quarta]

I hope someone will translate the WN version (or at least those Side Story)

BTW, Ray look so badass in cover volume 5, right? :love:
https://i.imgur.com/U34p9jS.jpg

[Village Idiot]

I hope someone will translate the WN version (or at least those Side Story)

BTW, Ray look so badass in cover volume 5, right? :love:
https://i.imgur.com/U34p9jS.jpg

JNC are so fast theres no point translating the WN.

[Village Idiot]

Oh, about the short stories, some are in Vol 3.

Vol 3's main story is only half the volume. The rest are the short stories.

The one released by JNC this week is the one with Rook and the Slime.

[Kunagisa]

https://i.imgur.com/OrRT73dl.jpg (http://hobbyjapan.co.jp/comic/series/dendro/)
My favorite character.

Some fun stuff:

Cheshire's embryo at tier 6, under current alias Tom Cat, can do 7 splits; at tier 7 (highest tier for Masters right now), under previous alias Shrodinger Cat, can do 799 splits. You can kinda speculate the power jump between the tiers are.
Ray created a new clan call Death Period (from drawing lots); members right now = Luke, Mary, Shuu (!), BBB, ReiRei (!), Fujinon, Io, Kasumi. Figaro (!) and Hannya (!) will join after they're back. Shuu's secret agenda for joining the clan is to gather a group that can fight Sephirot on equal grounds (Sephirot has 9 Superiors right now and is the strongest clan, the clan owner is the only one that is not a Superior).
RIP negotiations.
CCC (my foxy lady Fusou Tsukuyo) can instant kill anyone lower than level 600 even through those 1HKO prevention brooch. Was a rather "HOLY SHIT" and "ayy lmao" moment. And she still have some other tricks up her sleeve.
The battles right now are Shuu vs. Leviathan, AAA vs. Claudia, Death Period + The Lunar Society vs. Beast King; yes, it's Gozilla (Leviathan) vs. Super Robot (Shuu's embryo's final form), probably one of the most bromance matchup in sci-fi; yes, Beast King is too strong with Leviathan together, so Shuu had to drag away the Beast King's embryo to increase the odds of winning. Leviathan is around 100m long and can shatter a 300 meteor that Arch Wiseman (I previously translated this as Philosopher) Flagman summon in the sky with 1 hit ...
The Flagman that was killed in the last war was the 9th one since Wolfgang's days.
Twitter bonus SS: Revelation of Duchess, AI #7, who is a supreme beauty unlike the one from Alice in Wonderland, dressed completely in black and seems kinda emo. Also we found out there's a Superior Embryo name Artemis.
Franklin lives next to Reiji in real life .............................
The story is split in 5 arcs, we're finishing up arc 2, around 40% through the story.


　
Behemoth
　Job：【King of Beast】
　Level：1157（Total Level：1657）
　HP：82015（+23650050）
　MP：3353（+0）
　SP：49021（+0）
　STR：10110（+216900）
　AGI：15415（+209969）→37564
　END：10050（+232020）
　DEX：1503（+1058）
　LUC：125（+100）

37564 = mi na go ro shi = 皆殺し, currently 1/6th of the total due to Fusou/High Priestess' debuff.
No wonder physical strongest ... these stats are fucked up.

[Village Idiot]

JNC has just started Volume 4, which takes place in the game of Dr Franklin.

Where is this at in the WN?

[Zen Quarta]

I just buy volume 1 premium from J-Novel Club and got 6 bonus short story, I do not know if it's same as the Japanese version, though

1. Brother Bear’s Cooking
2. Marie’s Cooking
3. Lei-Lei’s Cooking
4. Cheshire’s Cooking
5. Figaro and Cooking
6. Reiji’s Cooking

[nyuumimi]

How many volumes are out now in Japan and is JNC near it?

[sparhawk1610]

How many volumes are out now in Japan and is JNC near it?

5 out and 6th should be before end of the year. JNC started vol 4 so yeas they are rly close.

[jpwong]

Didn't realize JNC was digital only, bought onto their site since they've got this and Grimgar that I've been interested in getting.

[Zen Quarta]

Ilustration for LN Volume 5


https://i.imgur.com/4kXjiic.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vdv9T4K.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wMKMLa1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vSg87WP.png

https://i.imgur.com/sgRJnuG.png

https://i.imgur.com/DuJL2cw.png

https://i.imgur.com/VKEsYgw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8gyVp4M.png

https://i.imgur.com/9qRySRs.png

[darkage]

Is that in the last one Is that FRANKLIN? FOR REAL? WOW

[Nishaven]

What is Nemesis' third and fourth form? I just finished volume 1 but I'm curious.

[Xellos-_^]

do we see the sister in the game later on? She sound like a lot of fun :D

[Zen Quarta]

Winning 3rd place in Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! :D
https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNovels/comments/7eyjpe/kono_light_novel_ga_sugoi_2018_results_page/

[Lenox]

Question is the world of Infinite Dendrogram real or is it a game?

[Xellos-_^]

Question is the world of Infinite Dendrogram real or is it a game?
at this point i think it is real.

as one of character said, the realism is too much if someone just want to make money.

[Kunagisa]

JNC has just started Volume 4, which takes place in the game of Dr Franklin.

Where is this at in the WN?

72/318

Is that in the last one Is that FRANKLIN? FOR REAL? WOW

Yes, this part is new to the novel only.

do we see the sister in the game later on? She sound like a lot of fun :D

Unlikely, author said she hasn't played Dendro, will not play Dendro, and will not appear besides flashbacks. If anything, she will be the MC of another of author's story.

Question is the world of Infinite Dendrogram real or is it a game?

No direct answer yet, but my theory is that the "game" is real in the sense that either
1) Actual AI evolved from advance form of self-learning
2) A cyber computer species that evolved from data that gained sentient

I personally don't buy the game is an "isekai portal" theory.

[Village Idiot]

J-Novel Club just finished pre-pubs of Volume 4

Ends just after Ray destroys the RSK (Ray Starling Killer).

Last half of Vol 5 will conclude the first arc and the first half will consist of LN exclusive side stories of what the other characters were doing during Ray VS Franklin.

[Village Idiot]

Volume 4 out by JNC.

The bonus short stories in this volume is essentially Chapter 0 showing what Franklin and Shu were doing while Ray made his character, and more background on Hugo.

No wonder Shu's called King of Destruction.

He can destroy things on a molecular level.

And now I'm curious how he became acquaintances with

one of Altar's princesses.

[FormerLurker]

Volume 4 out by JNC.

The bonus short stories in this volume is essentially Chapter 0 showing what Franklin and Shu were doing while Ray made his character, and more background on Hugo.

No wonder Shu's called King of Destruction.

He can destroy things on a molecular level.

And now I'm curious how he became acquaintances with

one of Altar's princesses.

I bought volume 4 and read it completely. But I don’t see any side stories in the volume at all. No info on Shu or franklin. Only some background on Hugo that is part of the main story. May I know where u are getting the side stories for volume 4? Cause the copy of volume 4 I bought on kobo doesn’t have any side stories. Volume 3 which I bought on kobo has side stories on Marie and rook.

[Village Idiot]

The Premium version if you get it via JNC has the bonus short stories.

Shu's "short story" was like an entire chapter by itself.

As for Hugo IRL,

She's a middle school girl

[Endscape]

The Premium version if you get it via JNC has the bonus short stories.

Shu's "short story" was like an entire chapter by itself.

As for Hugo IRL,

She's a middle school girl

Can you buy the volume in its entirety from JNC?

[FormerLurker]

The Premium version if you get it via JNC has the bonus short stories.

Shu's "short story" was like an entire chapter by itself.

As for Hugo IRL,

She's a middle school girl

Well dam. I already bought all 4 volumes on kobo and I don’t really wanna buy it again on jnc just for the short stories.

[Village Idiot]

Can you buy the volume in its entirety from JNC?

Ya, but you have to be a subscriber.

[Zen Quarta]

Heyoo...
This's cover for volume 6 that will be release in early february...
https://i.imgur.com/v8dcCG4.jpg

[FormerLurker]

Btw we know the control AI are based on characters from the fairytale alice in wonderland and through the looking glass. Have the they named all the AI in the web novel? Currently I know of Cheshire, Jabberwock, Humpty, Red King and Queen from the light novels. But what about the rest?

[Xellos-_^]

Btw we know the control AI are based on characters from the fairytale alice in wonderland and through the looking glass. Have the they named all the AI in the web novel? Currently I know of Cheshire, Jabberwock, Humpty, Red King and Queen from the light novels. But what about the rest?
there is also Door Mouse. White Rabbit and Alice.

I don't believed the rest has been name but you can probably guess the rest.

[FormerLurker]

there is also Door Mouse. White Rabbit and Alice.

I don't believed the rest has been name but you can probably guest the rest.

What about their roles too? Also Alice is part of the AI too huh? Currently this is their respective roles as far as I guess.

Cheshire: Doing the game intro/chores
Jabberwock: Management of UBMS
Red King: Gaol (aka infinite dendrogram jail for players)
Queen: Monsters in general?
Humpty: No clue at all really

[Xellos-_^]

All AI do game intro not just Cheshire. Bear Bro's Ai was Humpty

[FormerLurker]

All AI do game intro not just Cheshire. Bear Bro's Ai was Humpty

Well yeah I know but Cheshire also says that his primary work is to be the tutorial guide and he does more intros than any other AI. Also went back to look at some spoilers in this thread and learnt about 2 more AIs, tweedledum and tweedledee and the duchess. So that makes 10/13 AIs.

[Village Idiot]

Pre-Pub of Vol 5 finished by JNC

Some stuff from the LN exclusive side stories:


-Franklin, or Francesca, is Ray's neighbor IRL. They don't recognize each other.

-Shu was an actor, singer, cook, martial artist, artist, etc. He doesn't work anymore, spends all his time in Dendro, but is rich AF.

-Ray/Shu's sister is a weirdo. In Ray & his mom's phone call, its revealed that she was caught in a terrorist attack and casually mentioned she caught the criminals. Apparently stuff like this this happens all the time.

-Ray's been raiding Altar's dungeon with the three girls he met during Franklin's Game.

-Some "do you have a girlfriend?" talk with Ray's mom. Their sister's a lost cause, Shu's a chick magnet IRL but spends all his time in Dendro, and Ray's a chick magnet in-game but isn't one IRL.

[Endscape]

Sounds great. This is really tempting me to join JNC.

[Xellos-_^]

Pre-Pub of Vol 5 finished by JNC

Some stuff from the LN exclusive side stories:


-Franklin, or Francesca, is Ray's neighbor IRL. They don't recognize each other.

-Shu was an actor, singer, cook, martial artist, artist, etc. He doesn't work anymore, spends all his time in Dendro, but is rich AF.

-Ray/Shu's sister is a weirdo. In Ray & his mom's phone call, its revealed that she was caught in a terrorist attack and casually mentioned she caught the criminals. Apparently stuff like this this happens all the time.

-Ray's been raiding Altar's dungeon with the three girls he met during Franklin's Game.

-Some "do you have a girlfriend?" talk with Ray's mom. Their sister's a lost cause, Shu's a chick magnet IRL but spends all his time in Dendro, and Ray's a chick magnet in-game but isn't one IRL.

Shu won the lottery in the US and bought a apartment building in tokyo. He bascially lives off the rent form the apartments. Ray lives in of the units for free.

Their sister also jump off a crashing airplane without a parachute and punch a hole in a cruise ship that was sinking to escape.

[Zen Quarta]

Unfortunately, I don't have Credit Card to become JNC member...
Still waiting for another payment method, though...

[Village Idiot]

JNC's just started vol 6.

LOL @ the prologue.

Its a flashback to one year ago when Altar was threatened by King Ghidorah, a Super Unique Boss Monster:


Altar got its ass kicked.

A raid of masters from Altar got their ass kicked.

Shu, Figaro and Tsukuyo went next. It boils down to:

Figaro: I got this, hold my beer. *dies and takes out a head*

Tsukuyo: *Lunar Society zerg rush* *total wipe and takes out a head*

Destroying two heads triggers King Ghidorah's super-mode.

Shu: Bring it

The next paragraph says that King Ghidorah's dead, and in the aftermath, they had to re-draw the map.

[black prince]

JNC's just started vol 6.

LOL @ the prologue.

Its a flashback to one year ago when Altar was threatened by King Ghidorah, a Super Unique Boss Monster:


Altar got its ass kicked.

A raid of masters from Altar got their ass kicked.

Shu, Figaro and Tsukuyo went next. It boils down to:

Figaro: I got this, hold my beer. *dies and takes out a head*

Tsukuyo: *Lunar Society zerg rush* *total wipe and takes out a head*

Destroying two heads triggers King Ghidorah's super-mode.

Shu: Bring it

The next paragraph says that King Ghidorah's dead, and in the aftermath, they had to re-draw the map.


:heh: Shu's sure live up to his job :heh:

[Village Idiot]

About Tsukuyo Fuso

Her Embryo is Kaguya, and is related to the moon. She can reduce anything she wants to 1/6th, stats, damage, oxygen, heart rate, gravity, etc.

Nemesis is actually her complete counter, but she's too weak at the moment to affect a Superior Embryo.

She had Ray kidnapped and really wants him to join her guild, and isn't taking no for an answer.

[Zen Quarta]

About Tsukuyo Fuso

Her Embryo is Kaguya, and is related to the moon. She can reduce anything she wants to 1/6th, stats, damage, oxygen, heart rate, gravity, etc.

Nemesis is actually her complete counter, but she's too weak at the moment to affect a Superior Embryo.

She had Ray kidnapped and really wants him to join her guild, and isn't taking no for an answer.

I'm curious if she can reduce level, too xD
If that the case, then she actually can kill all player with level 600 or below using Gloria β, right?

[AFKBORED]

Anyone has illustratios for v6?

[Village Idiot]

Well, ****

Tsukuyo's a college student, heavily implied to be one of Ray's schoolmates and runs the gaming club that Ray is interested in.

[Zen Quarta]

Anyone has illustratios for v6?

Well, this is some ilustration of volume 6

https://i.imgur.com/jqObTDB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3764j8X.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jTihMUR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wONICRE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XgJH1YW.jpg

[RED IV]

This novel looks awesome, too bad it can't be read

[Nishaven]

Well, this is some ilustration of volume 6

https://i.imgur.com/jqObTDB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3764j8X.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jTihMUR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wONICRE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XgJH1YW.jpg

Thanks. Is the girl with pony tail Tsukuyo Fuso?

[Village Idiot]

This novel looks awesome, too bad it can't be read

Its being translated atm by J-Novel Club.

There was a free two week subscription a week or so ago (not sure if its still valid) and Dendro 1-6 are available for reading atm until end of March, you can read the entire series if you want.

[Rinvelt]

Two weeks ago my SSD died, so I decided to read the 5 translated volumes of Dendro while waiting for the new one. And, in short, I liked it more than I thought I would.

Anyway, since then I was hesitating between reading the WN or just read the translated LN. Then things happened and I started by reading from the Episode Superior I, then volume 6 of the LN in Japanese, and finally finishing the Chapter 4 of the story with the WN.
Main reason being: I can skim through narrative I deem not too important while reading the WN, then read it normally when it'll be translated in English by JNC.

So yeah, now I have 200 chapters to read if I want to catch up.

Other than that, I was a little fearful about the Third Form/skill of Nemesis because a previous post said it wasn't as good as the other forms/skills, but I find it pretty nice (though yeah, not as handy as the other two)

Anyway, I have a question for those who read prebup, as I think it should be far enough to answer it:
How did JNC handle BBB's name? Beethl(e)y? And if they did, how did they make the comparison Beethl(e)y (b-three) and BBB when it's mentionned? (they use furigana in Japanese, so easy, but dunno about English).

And there'll be something worse to translate in Volume 7...

Though yeah, not their fault. It's like for Hugo. JNC used Yuri because they couldn't use two names, obviously. But Yuri is a man name and not used for girls in France. The thing, though, is that the Katakana transcription of the name could also be something like Julie, which is a girl name. It works perfectly in Japanese, but not so much in English because of the alphabet.

[Alexb37]

Two weeks ago my SSD died, so I decided to read the 5 translated volumes of Dendro while waiting for the new one. And, in short, I liked it more than I thought I would.

Anyway, since then I was hesitating between reading the WN or just read the translated LN. Then things happened and I started by reading from the Episode Superior I, then volume 6 of the LN in Japanese, and finally finishing the Chapter 4 of the story with the WN.
Main reason being: I can skim through narrative I deem not too important while reading the WN, then read it normally when it'll be translated in English by JNC.

So yeah, now I have 200 chapters to read if I want to catch up.

Other than that, I was a little fearful about the Third Form/skill of Nemesis because a previous post said it wasn't as good as the other forms/skills, but I find it pretty nice (though yeah, not as handy as the other two)

Anyway, I have a question for those who read prebup, as I think it should be far enough to answer it:
How did JNC handle BBB's name? Beethl(e)y? And if they did, how did they make the comparison Beethl(e)y (b-three) and BBB when it's mentionned? (they use furigana in Japanese, so easy, but dunno about English).

And there'll be something worse to translate in Volume 7...

Though yeah, not their fault. It's like for Hugo. JNC used Yuri because they couldn't use two names, obviously. But Yuri is a man name and not used for girls in France. The thing, though, is that the Katakana transcription of the name could also be something like Julie, which is a girl name. It works perfectly in Japanese, but not so much in English because of the alphabet.
They translated it as B3

[Rinvelt]

^I see. Well I guess it's the most logical way.

Thanks for the answer.

[Village Idiot]

They actually use both B3 and BBB.

[Rinvelt]

^Normal, because both ビースリー and BBB are used in Japanese. The thing, though, is that until BBB is mentioned you don't actually know the meaning of ビースリー is B3. (you just think it's a shortened version of her name)
That's why I wondered how it was handled in the translation.

[Nishaven]

^Could you spoil me about Nemesis' third form?

[Endscape]

^Could you spoil me about Nemesis' third form?

Nemesis' third form has two different modes. Form α is a shield called Black Circle that lets him use Counter Absorption. Form β is a giant bladed windmill, kind of like a Fuuma Shuriken from Naruto, called Shooting Wheel. It has a skill called Payback Overstar, which is a long distance version of Vengeance is Mine with homing capabilities. The distance and speed of the Shooting Wheel depends on how much damage Ray recieves from the taret, and it deals 3 times that value as direct damage. It can only be used once a day though.

[Rinvelt]

Chapter 5 done. Phew, so much plot.

Also, like previously mentioned by Kunagisa, the main girl in chapter 5 gets so many HP and good scenes with Ray that I just want her to be the end girl. Do something Nemesis!

Won't be a harem, which is a good thing, but at least don't make such a good girl fall for him. >.>
Would have been perfect if it was just friendship and trust between partners, but then there was that line about him being engraved in her heart...

Well, should still be salvageable, considering that they won't interact that much with each other starting from the next chapter.

[Nishaven]

Nemesis' third form has two different modes. Form α is a shield called Black Circle that lets him use Counter Absorption. Form β is a giant bladed windmill, kind of like a Fuuma Shuriken from Naruto, called Shooting Wheel. It has a skill called Payback Overstar, which is a long distance version of Vengeance is Mine with homing capabilities. The distance and speed of the Shooting Wheel depends on how much damage Ray recieves from the taret, and it deals 3 times that value as direct damage. It can only be used once a day though.

Thank you.

[Kunagisa]

Chapter 5 done. Phew, so much plot.


You should keep trucking along. Finish Episode Outlaw then go read Glory Select.E.R., which is still the best arc so far.

Speaking of plot, the latest arc explained the "endgame", but left more questions than answers because that's not the true endgame. I have no idea how the author's incorporate all these into bunko format because this is all happening without the MC around ... again. This arc ended up a lot more interesting than I thought though. The new revelations are cool and giving more clues regarding if the game is another world, but the diction choice is vague enough that you can interpret this as the exact opposite as well.

Top bait author-san, top bait.

[Rinvelt]

To be honest I lose my motivation when it changes to 3rd POV. I love first POV because it's unique to each character.
Just finished first chapter of Outlaw. At first I was meh, then it changed to Gerbera POV and I was Yeah o/. (really like her POV, her digressions are fun to read)

So yeah, I think I'm going to read Superior III slowly unless it's really engaging and smooth to read.

[Endscape]

Chapter 5 done. Phew, so much plot.

Also, like previously mentioned by Kunagisa, the main girl in chapter 5 gets so many HP and good scenes with Ray that I just want her to be the end girl. Do something Nemesis!

Won't be a harem, which is a good thing, but at least don't make such a good girl fall for him. >.>
Would have been perfect if it was just friendship and trust between partners, but then there was that line about him being engraved in her heart...

Well, should still be salvageable, considering that they won't interact that much with each other starting from the next chapter.

I know, right! That character is just so amazing that I'm really cheering for her to be the end girl. Nemesis is great and all, but she has her beat hands down.

To be honest I lose my motivation when it changes to 3rd POV. I love first POV because it's unique to each character.
Just finished first chapter of Outlaw. At first I was meh, then it changed to Gerbera POV and I was Yeah o/. (really like her POV, her digressions are fun to read)

So yeah, I think I'm going to read Superior III slowly unless it's really engaging and smooth to read.

Trust me, like Kunagisa said, Superior III is the best arc so far. It has everything, epic fights, plot, great character development, etc.

[Rinvelt]

So, finished and it's basically OP characters with OP skills against an OP monster. :heh:
Don't know if I would go as far as to say it's the best arc, but while it started slowly, once it "really started" it became better and better until the end.

So, basically, the Superiors have a screw loose with the pain turned ON and they still can resist ALL THAT!? I don't even know who is the worst, they're all terrible...

Shuu is a lolicon!... More seriously, I wonder if the reason he didn't participate in the war is really what he said, because with everything we know in the story so far he shouldn't be the type to forsake a country just for his identity, he's too soft hearted for that.

Fuuta, another crazy kid.....

Anyway, back to the main story. Hope it'll be good and hyped for Nemesis 4th form!

EDIT: By the way, I wondered about a few things:
We saw about male Masters having a child with a female Tian if they stay logged in long enough, but is it the same for female Masters? Would be unfair if not, but makes the situation kinda weird.

Then, what about aging? Apparently they always stay the same, but it would feel weird in a couple to have one ages and the other not (well, from the instant Masters live 3 times longer than them, I guess it's not that big a problem)
Also changing outside the game, but not inside, like Kashimiya for example. He's still a kid, but he'll grow up IRL, but stay small inside the game, can cause some perception problems.

Another one is about the said time. For example Xunyu/Jin'u was around 8 when she started, so almost 5 years later in game she's around 12-13 mentally, but only almost 10 in body. And the difference will only grow even larger.

And finally, still about the time but more humourous: students have an even more difficult time! It's impossible to multiply the time by 3 because of sleep/life, so let's put it at 2. Let's take one class you have once a week. This class becomes once every two weeks! Easier to forget things in between and real need to prepare before class. Must be a pain.

[Outsider]

I know, right! That character is just so amazing that I'm really cheering for her to be the end girl. Nemesis is great and all, but she has her beat hands down.
Made an account just to kill your hopes before they become despair.

Kaido is pretty active on his narou blog, answering questions and whatnot, and he already confirmed a few times that Ray's on the Nemesis route.
He plans his work ahead of time, and says that switching at this point would make him drop a chunk of the whole story (probably everything related to the true nature of Embryos.)

Example (https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/227664/blogkey/1519489/)
○アズライトルート

(=ↀωↀ=)＜多分、現状の入りやすさではトップにいる

(=ↀωↀ=)＜だけどネメシスルートじゃないと全貌明かされない感じなので

(=ↀωↀ=)＜本編はきっとネメシスルート

I feel sorry for the girl, but I trust he'll make it work.

[Rinvelt]

^Come on, you post something but you forget to speak about the most important part:
(=ↀωↀ=)＜本編はきっとネメシスルート

So a spin-off/side story for Azurite is totally possible! (I hope)

Also you don't kill any hope, we already talked about the fact it's non-harem and Nemesis only.

Anyway, on my side I read the first part of Arc 6 and the second page of Pale Book(?) that I just finished. Kinda procrastinated and played Nayuta no Kiseki between the two.

I have to say one freaking thing:
Kids are freaking scary. Seriously. Also Emily is OP as hell.

Oh and, yeah, congrats Figaro. Kinda was obvious it would happen with his name coming from Le Mariage de Figaro, and the author really likes to give meaningful names to his characters.

Also no comment about the fact that Hugo/Yuri (Julie, whatever), who is in a French school, so in a French school system, wears a uniform and is a third year. Even if for some reason in the future the school uniform makes a comeback, she should be in her fourth year, not third.
But hey, that's just a little detail. :p

[Outsider]

So a spin-off/side story for Azurite is totally possible! (I hope)
I'll give you that it's a possibility, but from what I know of Kaido, he'd rather write a new canon side story in Another Episode (https://ncode.syosetu.com/n4318ek/) than deal with what-ifs.

As for Pale Book II...
The thing that stayed with me the most from there is Benetnasch.
For someone called "The Indestructible," he sure seems like a broken man.

[Endscape]

^Come on, you post something but you forget to speak about the most important part:


So a spin-off/side story for Azurite is totally possible! (I hope)

Also you don't kill any hope, we already talked about the fact it's non-harem and Nemesis only.


...Now that's just a shame. I hope she does get that side story.

[Rinvelt]

And chapter 6 done. Wew, was good. Really good.

Anyway, Nemesis' 4th form/skill is nice and all, but it feels so plain and constricted when you see all the other OP characters and their skills...

Now I must admit I have no motivation to read Touch the GAME OVER (even though I now kinda know the meaning of the title), so I'll either wait for the main story to restart to have the motivation to go through it, or you convince me to read it now. Same for Another Episode, I guess.

Oh yeah, I guess I'll read the comments of the author now, might have a few answers to my questions.

[Outsider]

Now I must admit I have no motivation to read Touch the GAME OVER (even though I now kinda know the meaning of the title), so I'll either wait for the main story to restart to have the motivation to go through it, or you convince me to read it now. Same for Another Episode, I guess.
If Episode Superior I-III, Pale Book I-II, and the other side stories didn't convince you that Kaido doesn't write side content that's not (at the very least) worth a read, then I don't know what will.
That said, TtGO isn't complete yet, but it's about to be, so you're better off waiting until the epilogue is up before you start. It should come on Monday or Friday, depending on whether we have another part left.

As for Another Episodes, there's only 4 uploads up so far, so it won't take that much of your time, and it's all intriguing stuff. The first gives some backstory to an UBM that severely needed it, the second (my favorite) is about one of Granvaloa's Superiors and his beef with another UBM, and the two remaining ones are an interesting glimpse into the age when the King of Kings reigned supreme (though, unlike the first two, which are complete with one part, these two are part a series stuck in limbo since January.)

[Rinvelt]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't think it'll be bad or anything. Just that after finishing chapter 6 I didn't really want to read something I know I'll have no motivation to read at first. Because, yes, Side stories start slow but become interesting as they go.

But I kinda wrote a comment on Narou that I read everything, so now I have to read until the latest chapter. :heh:
Even more so after catching a glimpse of another comment talking about a certain person...

Also, slowly reading all the questions, and saw the answer to one of mine. A female Master would need to stay logged in 3-4 months to get pregnant. That's quite unfair compared to male Masters...

[FormerLurker]

Finished volume 5 recently, now waiting for volume 6. The series is really enjoyable. I’ve tried spoiling myself by reading the jp wiki but the google translations aren’t very good. Feelsbadman. I Guess I have to wait for them to release volume 6.

[Lex79]

^Come on, you post something but you forget to speak about the most important part:


So a spin-off/side story for Azurite is totally possible! (I hope)

Also you don't kill any hope, we already talked about the fact it's non-harem and Nemesis only.

I always have to remind me of that. I'm so used to harem series that every time a new girl appears and don't start flirting with Ray I feel a bit confused.

[Rinvelt]

Author commented that he sees the girls as "routes" like in VNs. He gives the girls points like a VN would give girls points in the Common Route, but doesn't go further. That way, if the wording was really what it seems to mean, once the main story is done a spin-off/side story/if story for other heroines would be possible because they have points. Or something like that.

Though, so far, only one other girl is worthy to be called a true heroine.

By the way, Author said that Franklin is the "Yandere Enemy route you unlock for your second playthrough"

[FormerLurker]

Honestly nemesis as the main heroine is kinda boring. Other than being his embryo, nemesis as a character has barely any character to her. I would rather see ray with any other heroine tbh

[Rinvelt]

^I agree, but Nemesis being the true heroine is important to the story, like it was said above.

But hey, the story right now in the WN is not even at 50% (so 15-20% for you LN readers), Nemesis still has the time to be developed.

[Lex79]

Author commented that he sees the girls as "routes" like in VNs. He gives the girls points like a VN would give girls points in the Common Route, but doesn't go further. That way, if the wording was really what it seems to mean, once the main story is done a spin-off/side story/if story for other heroines would be possible because they have points. Or something like that.

Though, so far, only one other girl is worthy to be called a true heroine.

By the way, Author said that Franklin is the "Yandere Enemy route you unlock for your second playthrough"As far as volume 6, I can think of 5 or 6 heroines I wouldn't mind see in a what if stories. But first I have to see how the main romance will be handled, for now there is next to nothing (again, I've read up to volume 6).
For the spoiler, the moment I saw Francesca living next to Rei I immediately thought it would be very funny if they become friends or even lovers in real life while enemy in game.

[Outsider]

Dendro will go on for tens of volumes, and the author's probably using his romance resources sparingly so he can deliver it in greater amounts along with the climaxes later in the series.

Though, it's not the focus here, anyway.

[Rinvelt]

And caught up! Revelations, again. (though you can guess the big picture before, the details are pretty impressive)

Now just need to read the Author's posts, as well as Another.


Just a thought, but do you guys think it's possible for the Dragonic Emperor to be given birth in the arena so that after exploding the mother is put back together thanks to the barrier?
I'm gonna ask that to the author after seeing if it wasn't asked already. (or something similar)

[Outsider]

Spoiler
I think it would work, but it's so unlikely it's not worth considering.

Huang He's civil war continued until the imperial concubine's child was born as the Draconic Emperor. This means they have no way of knowing when a child will turn out to be DE and can't make any preparations for it.
The mother unknowingly pregnant with the Draconic Emperor would have to go to an arena as a participant(if she doesn't stop herself, rules or social pressure surely will) and go into labor right on the spot.
And if she doesn't just instantly explode into gore, you'd have to make sure they don't cancel the match to have her escorted to the appropriate facilities. I mean, hey, none of them, not even the woman herself, know that she's housing the strongest tian and that her life depends on the barrier being up, so they'd surely go about it rationally, which would lead to her undoing in a horrifying display of irony.

So yeah, it's possible, but I don't see it ever happening, even in a world so packed with unlikelihoods becoming reality.

[Rinvelt]

I think it would work, but it's so unlikely it's not worth considering.

Huang He's civil war continued until the imperial concubine's child was born as the Draconic Emperor. This means they have no way of knowing when a child will turn out to be DE and can't make any preparations for it.
The mother unknowingly pregnant with the Draconic Emperor would have to go to an arena as a participant(if she doesn't stop herself, rules or social pressure surely will) and go into labor right on the spot.
And if she doesn't just instantly explode into gore, you'd have to make sure they don't cancel the match to have her escorted to the appropriate facilities. I mean, hey, none of them, not even the woman herself, know that she's housing the strongest tian and that her life depends on the barrier being up, so they'd surely go about it rationally, which would lead to her undoing in a horrifying display of irony.


So yeah, it's possible, but I don't see it ever happening, even in a world so packed with unlikelihoods becoming reality.

Solution is actually pretty simple: give birth in the arena everytime. Also, remember the Gideon accident? Franklin hijacked the system of the arena and put the barrier around everyone, you don't actually need to do it just for two persons. And with magic no real need for actual proper facilities.
The actual problem would be that the arena must be full of people most of the time so not really possible to do. So they would either need a way to use the barrier outside the arena, or clear the arena of people each time birth is given to a child with the Emperor's blood.
Also, I wonder what state the mother would actually go back to after giving birth and how the barrier would treat the child.

[Outsider]

Vol 7 cover is A+++.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcviopfU0AEz0Fo.jpg

[Rinvelt]

Yeah it is.

https://images.yomeru-hj.net/bunko_blog/uploads/2018/05/09174035/fe55323f039b75ab07850e03e31d3836.jpg

EDIT: Ah, you posted it, just didn't show up on my screen.

[FormerLurker]

Definitely looks like a hell general

[Endscape]

Is that Shooting Wheel? That's...not what I imagined it looked like. Always thought it was more like a giant shuriken or something. Other than that, great cover.

[bakato]

Is that Shooting Wheel? That's...not what I imagined it looked like. Always thought it was more like a giant shuriken or something. Other than that, great cover.

Spoiler said it was a windmill, but it's more like a wheel on a stick or a pinwheel.

[Rinvelt]

^It's a pinwheel actually, as it's where the idea came from. (Nemesis really liking the pinwheel she was given)

So while I didn't imagine it like that too, I guess it's the apt way to portray this form.

[Hikaru8]

Hello, I am new in this forum! As there are readers from the web novel here I wanted to ask a few questions I'm really interested in.

What is Nemesis fourth form?
Does Ray get a new armor during the next arcs? Does he get any new Unique Monster mvp drop? (I love character progression in games and series)
Could you mention some epic battles to come in the series?
Who is that new female character everyone is loving? Since when does she appear in the series?

[Rinvelt]

^I won't answer the fourth question because, well, I think it's better to not know before they happen.
The rest can be spoiled without really lowering the enjoyment you'll get, so I'm willing to answer:

Nemesis' fourth form is called Black Mirror. It's two blades shapped like wings which are on Ray's back at first, but he can use them like swords and each one can do half the damage of Vengeance Is Mine (so basically the number of his damage counter)
The skill is Chaser From Mirroring (engrish) and the ability is to copy one stat from the person Ray received damage from, and every minute the damage counter is reduced by the stat. (ex: stat is 500 and damage counter is 1000, the skill will last 3 minutes because the skill stops when the reduction is impossible, that is to say during the calcul)

Nope, Ray doesn't get anything after Monochrome (vol 7). He gets a new armor after that, but it gets destroyed in the latest chapters. Didn't get a new one since then.

First Princess of Altar. She should appear either in vol 8 or 9, depending on what the author decides to do.

EDIT: Actually thought about something to ask the author, concerning the fourth form:
Let's say the damage counter is 100. Both swords can do 100 damages each. But if Ray use one, then he receives damages and the counter augment to 150, will one sword do 150 and the already used one 50 damages?

[Endscape]

Let's say the damage counter is 100. Both swords can do 100 damages each. But if Ray use one, then he receives damages and the counter augment to 150, will one sword do 150 and the already used one 50 damages?

I thought the 4th form swords halved the damage counter for use in each sword? I assume that will stay constant depending on the damage.

[Rinvelt]

^
Vengeance Is Mine is the double of the damage counter, no? So half of Vengeance Is Mine = Damage Counter. Unless the Damage Counter is automatically multiplied.... If so, then I remembered wrong.

In that case, if the base is 100 and one sword is used, 50 will remain. So the next strike is 25 or the remaining 50?

EDIT; reread the chapter, and I was wrong, yeah. But instead of halving the damage counter, it's more like half the DC is stored in each sword.
ダメージカウンターが双剣に半分ずつ蓄積される。

Hmm... To be honest I'm a little lost. Well, maybe the question was asked, will see later.

[Gundam Meister]

How Broken would Nemesis Superior Form be if was able to use every single one of the skill of her other forms at the same time

[Endscape]

^
Vengeance Is Mine is the double of the damage counter, no? So half of Vengeance Is Mine = Damage Counter. Unless the Damage Counter is automatically multiplied.... If so, then I remembered wrong.

In that case, if the base is 100 and one sword is used, 50 will remain. So the next strike is 25 or the remaining 50?

No, I think you had it right the first time. I had equated the damage counter with Vengeance and forgot that was the doubled value.

I think it would be best to think of it that when one sword uses vengeance, half the damage counter goes away.

[Outsider]

Who is that new female character everyone is loving? Since when does she appear in the series?
First princess of Altar, Altimia. Has been mentioned a few times in the volumes currently out. She's basically a direct upgrade from Liliana.
I don't exactly get along with the "female/princess knight" stereotype, but even I like her. Definitely not as much as most, though.
Dendro's editor confirmed that she'll be in volume 8.

[Hikaru8]

Thanks for your quick and detailed answers! Now another thing I'm wondering is if arc 4 will be finished with volume 7, or does it needs more volumes? Also, when they finish arc 4, will they move to the fifth one or will they adapt first the side storiy arcs (because from what i've read, ID has a lot of side stories)? I don`t know if there are any info about that already.

A bit off topic maybe, but what's your level of japanese (years studying or title)? I'm studying noken N4 and I just had the curiosity of thinking at what level can you enjoy reading a web novel ( I imagine a really high one).

[Outsider]

Thanks for your quick and detailed answers! Now another thing I'm wondering is if arc 4 will be finished with volume 7, or does it needs more volumes? Also, when they finish arc 4, will they move to the fifth one or will they adapt first the side storiy arcs (because from what i've read, ID has a lot of side stories)? I don`t know if there are any info about that already.

A bit off topic maybe, but what's your level of japanese (years studying or title)? I'm studying noken N4 and I just had the curiosity of thinking at what level can you enjoy reading a web novel ( I imagine a really high one).
Arc 4 will definitely end with vol 7.
According to the author, vol 7 will also include a side story (not stated if just one, though,) and the fact that vol 8 is confirmed to have the heroine's debut is a sure sign that it will be the start of arc 5.
I assume vol 8 will also have one or two side stories, too, buuut I've made wrong Dendro assumptions before, so don't trust me on that one.

And here's my advice for Japanese studying: learn both kanas, take a translation tool to use as your training wheels and then just immerse yourself in the language by reading a simpler manga or VN or something (the visuals and voices help.) TL tools are crap for syntax and grammar, sure, but they get kanji and compounds right most of the time. As you read both the original Japanese and the translation, the knowledge of the language should start flowing into your head. It will be daunting at first, but as you memorize more and more kanji and get a better grasp of the grammar, you will start relying on the TL tool less and less until you just won't need it anymore.
That's how it was for me, anyway. There's no be all and end all when it comes to ways of learning stuff, so I'm not sure if it will work for you, but I still recommend giving it a try.

[Village Idiot]

Katakana and Hiragana are easy to learn, its Kanji that will make or break you.

[Rinvelt]

^That's why Yomichan exists. :)

But yeah, started reading when I was like N5 (perhaps almost N4), as long as it's first person POV it's not too difficult. Gets harder with 3rd person POV. VNs are mostly dialogues (voiced), so it's a good way to start. Though I recommend chosing WN/LN/VN you kinda want to read but don't care if you don't get everything first. Can be frustrating to not understand everything and to want to skim through narration that get annoying. So better start with something you wouldn't regret not understanding everything.

[dragon1412]

Thanks for your quick and detailed answers! Now another thing I'm wondering is if arc 4 will be finished with volume 7, or does it needs more volumes? Also, when they finish arc 4, will they move to the fifth one or will they adapt first the side storiy arcs (because from what i've read, ID has a lot of side stories)? I don`t know if there are any info about that already.

A bit off topic maybe, but what's your level of japanese (years studying or title)? I'm studying noken N4 and I just had the curiosity of thinking at what level can you enjoy reading a web novel ( I imagine a really high one).

If you are just started reading, then N4 is perfectly ok, you are pretty much still rely on dictionary anyway

A bit of advice is, this is pretty much only work on Isekai based books, since sci-fi or modern based tend to use a lot more different grammars, which is very likely for you to haven't learned it yet, by N3 point, your grammar should be pretty much completed

Kanji wise, dictionary, rikai, Yomi is pretty much your only hope, it's simply something that build with time, i don't think you can ever separated from it unless you have 3-5 years + if learning, i mean, I'm N2 and i'm still using dictionary

I don't think i'm the best kind of experiences when it come to learn JP from manga and novel, since i take class and only started reading raw when i was at the end of N3, but generally, i recommend reading manga 1st before LN or WN or VN, since grammar is more friendly in manga, they have furigana in some version, and generally with pictures, it's actually fairly easy to connect what they talk about about and the image

for once, i recommended to read LN or VN over WN, WN's author, tend to use slang or shortened sentence with missing subjects, so new readers can be really easy to confused, though usage of Rikai or Yomi in web browsers make WN reading sound easier

[Outsider]

Kanji wise, dictionary, rikai, Yomi is pretty much your only hope, it's simply something that build with time, i don't think you can ever separated from it unless you have 3-5 years + if learning, i mean, I'm N2 and i'm still using dictionary.
I've been using Rikaichan since I found it when I started learning in 2011, and I switched to Rikaichamp when Firefox no longer supported it.
It's less of a crutch and more of a friend at this point. No shame in relying on it.

[Rinvelt]

Used Rikaichan too before, but new firefox came. I'm not fan of the display of Yomichan, but it's the only popup addon that have the Kirei cake dictionary which is pretty nice, if not the best dictionary. Thus, I recommend Yomichan and the Kirei Cake dictionary.

[Hikaru8]

For the moment i take a look at shome shonen mangas, as they are very learner-firendly with a lot simple sentences, simpler kanjis followed by glorious furigana xd.

So, talking about ID, right now there are like 6 arcs? But the sixth (Ai no katachi) seems to be separated into two big parts or something, probably being a really large arc? Or am I getting this wrong and are different arcs?

Also, did the author said how long does he think the series will be (like re:zero author who said he had planned 11 arcs, so he is halfway for example) ?

[Rinvelt]

There are 6 main arcs (the sixth one being separated in two parts), and side arcs in between. One of the problems of the LN is that it doesn't have the side arcs which are actually REALLY important. My guess is that they'll get their own side novel series (like, let's say, I don't know, SAO Progressive or Sword Oratoria) in the near future. (yeah, I can't imagine the author going into arc 6 in the LN without publishing the important side stories that need to be read)

He didn't actually say how long, but like I said on the previous page, right now the series is nearing 50%, but not yet. Series being separated into 3 parts, the first one going until LN vol 5 (Gideon's happening + SS not in the LN). And part 2 should finish with arc 7 and the SS that'll come after it. So yeah, part 3 will be REALLY big, as it'll basically be 50% of the entire series.

EDIT: Actually, considering it's HJ Bunko, maybe .5 volumes are more likely than a side novel series. Like Rokujouma for example.

Also, quality is meh, but first illustration from the preview:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/21/3/1527068202-capture.jpg

EDIT: Continuing to go through the comments, it seems the author changed his plan and will break the 3rd part into other parts, making the total number of parts 6 with the 3rd being the longest:

○つまり15章くらいまでは期待していいんですねヤッター（鬼畜振り
○ということは1000話オーバー予定！？　ひゃっほぅ！！

(=ↀωↀ=)＜第二部戦争編

(=ↀωↀ=)＜第三部諸国編（長い）

(=ↀωↀ=)＜そして第四部最終Aと第五部最終Bと第六部最終Cだ！

( ꒪|勅|꒪)＜最終とハ……

[Rinvelt]

So, continuing to read the QA, and the question I had about the fourth skill was answered, and it was like I thought.

○そういえば双剣のダメージカウンターについて一度復讐を撃った後にダメージ受けるとダメージカウンターの 乗り方はどうなるんですか？双剣に分配という形ですか？

(=ↀωↀ=)＜こんな感じ

①元々10万ある場合は翼剣ABで5万ずつ　A：5万　B：5万
②Aだけ使用するとAだけなくなる　A：0　B：5万
③再度10万溜めるとまた分けて溜まる　A：5万　B：10万

Also, there is a World Map made with paint. Only translated the name of the countries to avoid spoilers (and because it would be a pain to translate every little thing).
Followed by a map made by a fan:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/21/5/1527256930-tgu20plb.jpghttps://img1.mitemin.net/ec/kz/4uxjcguilfa046aid9iw1xs3ehdb_eek_sg_lc_dv08.jpg

[zztop]

Dendrogram's source WN is listed as 88th place on this ranking chart from Syosetu:
http://yomou.syosetu.com/rank/list/type/total_total/

Not as popular with Syosetu's reader base, it seems.

[Outsider]

It's 122 for me, but I'd say that's pretty good regardless.
Narou is oversaturated and many of those at the top of the overall rankings are site's "old guard," of sorts. They've been there for many years and they'll be there for many more.
At this point, even breaking into the top 200 is a feat.

[zztop]

It's 122 for me, but I'd say that's pretty good regardless.
Narou is oversaturated and many of those at the top of the overall rankings are site's "old guard," of sorts. They've been there for many years and they'll be there for many more.
At this point, even breaking into the top 200 is a feat.

Thanks for the 122 correction, must've confused the titles somehow. :p

Speaking of old guard stories, there's one that's fairly new, about 2 years old, that was able to claim 7th place on the Narou ranking. Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi/とんでもスキルで異世界放浪メシ, about a summoned average Japanese guy (above-average cooking skills, but otherwise quite cowardly), having SOL-travels with a very domineering fenrir-wolf companion (later joined by other cute monster companions, like a cute slime).

I suppose in a way it does speak as to what the Narou readerbase enjoys reading.

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/Z4tWnbw vol 7 illustr

[Kuroageha]

I guess this one will pass unnoticed?

[Outsider]

Many WN readers here. We know what happened and don't see anything worth discussing at this point.
It's cool that the LN's catching up, and the art is as gorgeous as ever, but if I was to post anything, it would be a complaint that there hasn't been a new WN upload for a month now.

Kaido, pls, Another Episode is cool and all, but my bloodstream requires only the purest Dendro.

[Endscape]

Kaido, pls, Another Episode is cool and all, but my bloodstream requires only the purest Dendro.

He's making us wait to heighten the anticipation. It's a devilish trick.

I wouldn't be shocked if we get a new Superior arc when it comes back, though I would love to see Shu vs Sechs, or Shu vs Fatoum...

[Rinvelt]

I think next is Pale Book III. Or at least, Kaido said there will be Pale Book III before the next main story part, so there can be more than one "secondary" arc.

[Outsider]

He said he wants to give Ray some screentime, so he'll make an arc 6.5 first and then do Pale Book III.

From 2018/04/22
ちょっとした呟き
(=ↀωↀ=)＜んー（カリカリ……）
(=ↀωↀ=)＜蒼白Ⅲ……ラスカル……エルドリッジ……客船……砂上の決闘……
(=ↀωↀ=)＜＜マジンギア＞VS＜マジンギア＞……【瑪瑙】……《ハイリガー・トリニテート》… …
( ꒪|勅|꒪)＜思わせぶりな予告ワード漏らしてどうしタ？
(=ↀωↀ=)＜襲撃編後の執筆順について悩んでいる
(=ↀωↀ=)＜ビルドダイバーズとかパシリムとかスパロボの影響で気分的にはロボ書きたい
(=ↀωↀ=)＜けど、それをやるとレイ君の出番が半年以上空くことになる
(￣(エ)￣)＜作者は書籍化作業でレイのシーン書いてるからあまり離れてる気はしないが、読者の皆様はそ うじゃないクマ
(=ↀωↀ=)＜うん
(=ↀωↀ=)＜なので七章のイベントを抽出して七章前半あるいは六・五章として作り直し、蒼白の前にお出 しする案を考えてる
(=ↀωↀ=)＜装備更新とかクラン本拠地決定もしないとだし
( ꒪|勅|꒪)＜……しかし、七章今年中に終わるカ？
(=ↀωↀ=)＜四日ペース続けても分からない。思ったより王都襲撃編膨らんだから
( ꒪|勅|꒪)＜パン生地みてーな小説だナ
(=ↀωↀ=)＜ふかふかで美味しくなってると思いたい

From 2018/05/16
コメント返し　五月三～十六日
〇次回投稿
(=ↀωↀ=)＜お知らせしたとおりＡＥをゆったりペースで投稿
(=ↀωↀ=)＜一章分（というか六章が）終わった休憩でもあり
(=ↀωↀ=)＜他の仕事の時間でもあり
(=ↀωↀ=)＜急遽七章序（六・五章）を次にやることになったのでそのプロット作成だったり
(=ↀωↀ=)＜ちょっと色々考える時間がほしい

[Rinvelt]

Oh, yeah, forgot that. Nice.

[Rinvelt]

So, wanted to let the chapters pile up at first, but ended up reading anyway. Nothing much for now with chapters shorter than usual.

Spoiler thingy aside (hyped for next chapter), Ray's new armor ends up having the same design as the previous one because: "I feel bad for the illustrator to change Ray's armor too often, so I decided to keep the same design for the new one." :heh:

[Kyureki]

^ But constantly changing armour as you get stronger is standard in MMOs! :heh:

[Outsider]

Thing is, Ray's curse makes it necessary for the new armor to out-edge the old, and assuming that VDA is even edgier than the armor on the cover in vol 7(which already looks like it's capable of cutting your fingers through nothing but prolonged visual exposure,) I'm not sure if that's possible.

[Rinvelt]

^^That's why the excuse is that it's the "normal" version of his armour enchanted with rare skills. "Normal" version because the last one was downgraded for lv 100 people to be able to wear it whereas the original is for lv 200 people. (but it has skills that would make even Superior jobs want it, and the compatibility with Ray is awesome)

[Rinvelt]

Welp yeah, new chapter was really nice in term of information.

Now we need to wait one week. T_T

[Endscape]

Welp yeah, new chapter was really nice in term of information.

Now we need to wait one week. T_T

Yup. I'm beginning to get interested in Integra's character. That scene at the end really gives me ideas about what will happen in the future. I can only imagine what would happen if Integra ever met Futa..

[Gundam Meister]

So if this ever got an anime adaptation which studio could do it justice and which VA would fit the characters

[Rinvelt]

Honestly, Infinite Dendrogram is a good example of too much information in the narration, so the anime would pale in comparison.
Sure, anime would be cool, no really cool. But you'd lose all the really well thought setting and the informations given in the narration. And that would be such a shame.

Still want an anime to see the cool scenes.

[Kyureki]

^ It's been a while since I last read this and I never got too far, so I can't remember. Are there a lot of fights that would make no sense without narration? Mahouka was a prime example of this where the second half of the anime, people would have no clue what was going on in the fights if they didn't read the novels.

[Rinvelt]

^No, the fights are fine, as well as the cool scenes. That's why just for that the anime would be good.

Just that it would pale in comparison to the LN/WN because the setting of the world, many important informations are narration only. And one of the most amazing and interesting thing in Infinite Dendrogram is its world setting. So yeah, it's a shame to lose that in the anime.

[Village Idiot]

It should be possible to adapt the series well in animated form, despite all the narration.

Log Horizon managed to do it by moving all the narration to the characters.

[Outsider]

Well, the manga is working out quite nicely despite all the lost narration, so I imagine an anime would work, too, at least in terms of substance.
As for style... HJ isn't exactly a rich publisher, so the animation quality and whatnot might end up being sub-par due to a lack of budget. Though who knows? Maybe all the awards it got would catch the attention of an investor or a decent studio.

[Endscape]

ufotable might be too much to hope for, but White Fox has put out some excellent LN adaptations.

[bakato]

Putting aside my reservations about Ray and some of the plot, Infinite Dendrogram's greatest and most apparent strength is its unique aesthetic. I can't praise Taiki enough for his striking colors and gorgeous designs that immediately capture the stray eye and set this work apart from its dull fantasy and vrmmorpg-saturated medium. Bringing this aesthetic to the screen will be the first step towards a successful and highly popular adaptation.

Infinite Dendrogram's second strength is its premise and world-building. Kaidou has created a tantalizing world of mysteries and secrets inhabited by colorful, fully realized characters who get just as many, if not more, pages than Ray. Critical to such a world, or any well developed world and premise, is internal consistency of its logic. Especially for a vrmmorpg setting, the rules of the game invites speculation and anticipation of their numerous applications. This will necessitate exposition dumps and as we all know "show, don't tell." Unlike the previous, this strength cannot be captured by good animation but by a skilled director and passionate staff. Scenes will have to be meticulously and creatively crafted in order to visually convey as many of the rules as possible, or as many as necessary.

[Endscape]

I've wondered this before, but really, how did Marie manage to beat the King of Plagues again? :twitch:

[Rinvelt]

Who knows. iirc, it's the only opponent against whom she used all her colours. (might be remembering wrong)

[TsundereRic]

Question for WN readers. anything happen with gardranda after arc 4 or is the third skill still a mystery? same for silver's third skill?

[Rinvelt]

^Third skill is revealed in arc 5 which will start in vol 8, so you'll see that in vol 9 of the LN. I'm pretty hyped for the illustration that will surely come with it.

For Silver it's a little special, the skill is still locked, but Silver can use it on his own (with the power reduced) if he thinks it's necessary.

[TsundereRic]

Sounds awesome. i can sort of take a wild guess but i doubt i'll get it right. care to give me a bit of a spoiler about both? i live for spoilers ;)

[Rinvelt]

Can't say anything about Silver's because it's not known and he only used it once so far.

For the other:
Summoning Magic. Ray can summon the Princess Gardranda for a HUGE MP cost. 1000/sec iirc.
She's at a legendary UBM level, but stronger than the average one because she can learn. Problem is that at the end, a demerit amongst 3 for a period 3 times longer than the time she was summoned.
One is poison and weakness (can't heal), one is possession by Gardranda, and don't remember the third.

[Outsider]

Assuming Arc 5 is split into two volumes, we'll get Gardranda's third skill in vol 8, not 9.
And the third demerit is fire.

[TsundereRic]

Word
Nice knowing the little foreshadowing from the fight against gouz-maise came true. was sort of hoping gardranda braces also gained sentience outside of Ray fainting somehow, but that'd probably make gardandra overshadow Nemesis. Also 1000 MP/S hah. seems everything ray gets after gouz-maise is pretty involved with his ability to store grudges, considering his build shouldn't even give him much MP
thanks for the replies. considering the pace at which they are releasing, would have been around half a year to a year before the reveal for me :v

[Endscape]

A UBM that can absorb grudges? Does that mean Benetnasch might show up?

[Rinvelt]

Could be interesting, yeah. And it would also mean that he would be forced to participate in the war, making him an important character in the next arc in that case.

[Endscape]

Could be interesting, yeah. And it would also mean that he would be forced to participate in the war, making him an important character in the next arc in that case.

It might be good for him to join Death Period as well. He's not doing himself any favours with how he's handling his mission, so making friends could help.

[Hikaru8]

Another questions, when does Ray get a new armor different from the one in volume 7. arc 5 or arc 6? Also, do we get to see main arcs happening in other kingdoms apart from Altar? And finally, do you think the author will incorporate the side story arcs after arc 5 (as you say it is really important to the main story)?

[Rinvelt]

^it was said previously that the next armour is in vol 8.

In a previous post it's also said (though in Japanese) that Ray in other countries will be in the next part of the novel. But there are other characters in other countries in the side stories.

[Village Idiot]

Volume 8 will be released in October.

[Rinvelt]

Another thing that will be nice to see illustrated in this new chapter. :heh:

Also @TsundereRic:
Just when we talk about her.
Ray just got a ring called Big or Small, which can either reduce the cost and power of sommoning, or make it bigger.
Used on Gardranda, she becomes a chibi character who can't speak and try to eat Ray. (mostly biting his head)
Nothing about the demerits of the summoning, but I guess the cost is so low that the MP regeneration is enough to have her summoned constantly, thus not caring about the demerits.
Ray is going to buy an accessory to understand non human creature speech to be able to understand her when she's in that form.

[sasuke706]

^
He pretty much got an item that will allow Gardranda to scale with him as he gets stronger. At inflated cost too, of course.
And a character to add more flavor to slice of life segments. On top of it, a second gluttonous loli character.

Plus he plans on getting another oni type gear from the oni UBM in the upcoming tournament.
Might have some sort of synergy, considering she's an oni-princess. Has the talent to learn new skills and all.
Like the damage he constantly takes as a debuff from summoning her might also count toward the lifesteal damage the gear will presumably give him, healing himself an amount of the damage he does to himself.
Assuming he survives the summon duration, anyway.

Might have synergy for the actual summoning process/duration too.
Not sure what that'd be, however.

[TsundereRic]

Author must be reading my mind.

that's pretty awesome. I wonder if ray could use chibidranda to give him debuffs and use that as a pseudo proc for the reversal.

[Hikaru8]

Does Juliet appear in future main arcs or side story arcs? I like the character and her embryou. Also, does the author or this series have a twitter account?

[Rinvelt]

I don't think he has one, or at least I didn't find it.

As for Juliet, she's a special case. She was planned to be a sub-heroine and have Reiji be her private tutor (Reiji being a private tutor as a part time job to get a little money in real life), but the author is kinda hesitating to do it now. He did say that if he does it it wouldn't happen before a while (as right now, they're only entering the golden week in the timeline).

She does appear later a few times, and even has a kinda major role in an event.

[Outsider]

Vol 8 cover

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmeZIUwUwAEFrsH.jpg

Yep, she's a blue girl.

[Rinvelt]

No wonder Ray said she looked suspicious. :heh:

[Endscape]

They just keep outdoing themselves with these covers. It's not exactly what I pictured Altimia looking like, but it's amazing.

[LeftSeven]

really? is that really altimisia the 1st princess?looks like musketeer or zoro like
i thought her appereance more like ray's paladin friend but with upgraded part.

[Rinvelt]

^It's her appereance in disguise as Azurite.