Crunchyroll Seiren [Archive]

Stark700

2016-11-25, 09:51

More cast revealed with character designs and info:

Honoka Kuroki as Ruise Sanjō, the "gloomy public morals committee member" who is in class 2-A at Teruhi Higashi High School. As the chair of the public morals committee, she has the top grades in her year. She hates unreasonable things. She is strict to those around her, but has a soft spot for her underclassman Makoto.

Shino Shimoji as Tōru Miyamae, a "critical upperclassman." She is in class 3-A at Teruhi Higashi High School. She loves video games, and her skill is at the level where she competes in tournaments. She is good with her hands and her hobby is to make original goods. She isn't very good at talking to others, and has a hard time continuing conversations with people who don't share her hobbies.

Manami Numakura as Tomoe Kamita, the protagonist's only older sister and in class 3-A at Teruhi Higashi High School. She was last year's Miss Santa. She has the personality of an air-headed idol, and she naturally charms others. Because of that she's very popular at her school.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-25/seiren-original-anime-reveals-3-more-cast-members-character-designs/.109183

Stark700

2016-12-02, 08:23

Studio is going to be AXsiZ / Gokumi
http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/seiren/

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FlareKnight

2016-12-02, 16:07

I wonder they'll go the same route as Amagami where there are mini arcs of the girls who become the MC's love interest.
Well according to ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-02/seiren-original-anime-unveils-1st-promo-video-omnibus-format/.109434), it appears they are going to do just that. Which is good news to me. Overall I actually like the Omnibus format that Amagami used. Each girl focused on gets a 4 episode arc and their own story.

Know why some don't care for it, but I'm on board for this.

Flower

2016-12-16, 21:14

Tamura Yukari is joining the cast, it seems.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-16/seiren-original-anime-casts-yukari-tamura/.110002

Stark700

2016-12-29, 10:21

Latest preview
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Stark700

2017-01-04, 20:51

CR will stream it

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/01/04/crunchyroll-to-simulcast-seiren-anime

serenade_beta

2017-01-05, 20:23

Generally generic romance anime? Though normal isn't necessarily a bad thing. It was pretty normal, but it wasn't particularly painful. In the first place, nothing really started except the protagonist exaggerating his delusions about the girl playing around and whatever problems he has with the world.
And (anime) girls teasing the guys about sexual stuff isn't too bad either.
Ah, but the quality low here and there. I'm not sure how that will play out, if ever.

For some reason, I liked the OP and ED. Kinda... old? The way the names pop up, still-frames of the girls? Yeah, I kinda liked that.

Oh, and Kimikiss/Amagami designs are so obvious and similar. Fine, but noticeable.

AB079

2017-01-05, 21:27

Episode 1 of this new season of Amagami... forgot that this is a new series.

The episode was pretty much the same as Amagami, nothing out of place or different. The girls are nice at least for now but the MC is another story, very unlikeable to be honest.

I will watch this only for the girls.

Flower

2017-01-06, 14:48

Ep 01

So the MC's close friend who was tutoring him was ... Nanasaki Ai's (the fourth heroine shown in the Amagami SS anime who was part of the swimming club) younger brother, correct? Did not expect that combination.

Tsunaki seems remarkably normal at first glance I guess, but I wonder why she seems as taken as she is with the MC (other than because the story is like that, I mean :heh: ). I enjoyed Amagami SS, though it took a while to grow on me. Well, we will see where things go. Will give the next ep a try at least.

Thus far the storyline seems only okay ... and while the OP is nice, it does not strike me as anything "special". The ED did not do a lot for me either.

SeaDoor

2017-01-06, 15:31

It was just ok for me. The MC's whiney-wuss routine got pretty old in the first episode. Hope that annoyance gets toned down quickly.

Tenzen12

2017-01-06, 16:55

Not bad first episode. Well, success of that kind of romance depend on it's heroine and this one didn't particularly impressed me (her black haired friend in other hand...).

I will stick a while and see.

Psyco Diver

2017-01-06, 22:17

I dunno why I feel like I was dropped into the middle of the season with the first episode, I felt zero character introduction. The animation is really nice for a generic harem at least

Yamada II

2017-01-06, 22:47

Episode 01

Loser MC getting teased by the hot girl for no reason. His friend looks better. The comedy was nice. Lol the guy was staring at the place where Tsuneki was sitting. This is probably the first time I've seen something like this though. Normally there isn't much focus on the place where a girl was just sitting like this. Tsuneki was cute and I think she's the best looking of the lot. Plus she's pretty fun. I'll continue this at least for her. Not sure about the other girls though.

Stark700

2017-01-07, 01:43

Hmm, I thought first episode was fine so far. It introduced some of the main girls (granted, I bet each will get their own story/route)

So far, Tsuneki seems to stand out the most with her presence and teases. That ending was priceless though. This definitely also gave me Amagami vibes.

FlareKnight

2017-01-07, 04:27

Pretty solid start. Feel like they at least covered why Tsuneki has been interacting with Shouichi to this point. Seems believable enough that she was a bit miffed about his sister beating her out in the Miss Santa Contest. Past that initial point his reactions being amusing enough that she just kept on doing it.

Ai's brother seems like a good guy as well. Seems to be on top of things in his life. Which is good since I won't have to feel bad for him missing out on any romances while the lead goes on his adventure :).

Will be nice having the ED switching up depending on the main girl in question.

Decent start. Didn't blow me away, but I'll certainly keep on watching to see how Tsuneki's arc goes.

IceHism

2017-01-07, 07:21

Wow ayaneru made all the difference for me. I thought tsuneki was pretty cute but ayaneru just really fits her. MC was a bit shy but nothing too bad. Hopefully he becomes a bit more assertive though. The ending to the ep was great. Can't wait to see what is going to happen next. The other heroines don't seem as interesting but maybe it'll change when we get to their story.

MeoTwister5

2017-01-07, 08:39

As someone who actually liked parts of Amagami SS this was... just boring. Doesn't help that the MC's testicles haven't descended into his scrotum yet(whatever his name is). At least Junichi Tachibana was interesting for his ridiculous testosterone fueled imagination. I also agree with the sentiment that it feels like the episode started in the middle of an ongoing story arc.

Ulin

2017-01-07, 11:08

Nothing to highlight in the episode so far... pretty generic for me, and I got the feeling that I should know something about the characters but... I don't know, I guess I will give it a couple of episodes more and see.

Is it supossed to be a multi-heroine anime or something? or will Tsuneki be the MH being the others just satellite love interests?

blitz1/2

2017-01-07, 13:52

I'll just wait until my wincest route

Darthtabby

2017-01-07, 13:53

That OP for this series almost seems like it belongs in a yuri anime. :heh: Just cut out the two or three shots that include male characters.

Its been a long time since I watched the first season of Amigami SS (lets pretend its sequel doesn't exist). But from what I remember Seiren seems weak in comparison -this first episode seemed a bit scattered and disjointed, and I don't like the artwork as much. Of course its probably worth remembering that the first arc in Amagami was Haruka's and she was my favorite heroine (I felt the series got weaker after her and Kaori's arcs).

Does anyone think it would have been interesting if they'd made Ai's brother the main character?

Of the romance series I've sampled so far this season I'm inclined to give Fuuka the nod over this one. Fuuka has the advantage of having aired two episodes however while this show has only had one (and my impression of Fuuka improved as it went along).

Kopi

2017-01-07, 15:46

FlareKnight

2017-01-07, 17:10

IMO I like this MC better than his predecessor. More down to earth and less of a fetish pervert :heh: In fact the girls are like using foul language and saying stuff. But who knows, maybe he will turn out to be one in the later episode haha.

Man Tsuneki is so damn cute though. Mad props to the character designer and the studio.

Also did anyone mention how the senpai dude is like a flawless man?
>Popular and nice
>Got beat up in a fighting game but chose to learn and not dodge, ended up going back for rematch
>Ton of girls in the mixer? Meh, he rather stays at home to look after his cute rabbits
>Taking over his family business (sort of nice I guess?)
Yeah in comparison to the previous lead, I like this guy a bit more. Not as much emotional baggage, not as much of a pervert (although...he was looking at that desk for a good while :heh:), and feels a bit more normal than Junichi. But to be fair this is one episode of the first arc. So we'll have to see how the story fleshes him out.

One major improvement is that I think Ikuo is a much more stable "best friend." He is a lot calmer and honestly I'm not worried about this guy being forever alone :heh:.

So far I do like Tsuneki. All kinds of curious why she was climbing through a window at the end of this episode though.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-01-07, 17:17

Yeah in comparison to the previous lead, I like this guy a bit more. Not as much emotional baggage, not as much of a pervert (although...he was looking at that desk for a good while :heh:), and feels a bit more normal than Junichi. But to be fair this is one episode of the first arc. So we'll have to see how the story fleshes him out.

One major improvement is that I think Ikuo is a much more stable "best friend." He is a lot calmer and honestly I'm not worried about this guy being forever alone :heh:.

So far I do like Tsuneki. All kinds of curious why she was climbing through a window at the end of this episode though.

I think both are realistically normal in their own way. After all, how many guys didn't have perverted thoughts about girls based on their fetish in school? :heh:

The suspension of disbelief is much more the girls actually allowing the guy to do things with them at school like that (like Haruka and Kaoru letting Junichi kiss them in places), lol.

I really do like Tsuneki's personality though, and the Ringu style of climbing into his room was funny.

Seihai

2017-01-07, 18:27

Tsuneki's ass leaves an impression on desks, I got that much. It's only a matter of time before desks get replaced by faces.

Wandering Soul

2017-01-07, 18:36

Count me in as someone else that saw this as a decent start. Tsuneki is likable enough and they establish why she seems to like messing with the MC along with why she started messing with him in the first place.

Staring at the impression a girl's butt left on desk? First time I've seen that.

Top Sergeant

2017-01-07, 19:47

Not sure what to make of it yet, but I'll certainly watch it again.

I was a bit surprised at a couple of the suggestive shots in the ED, especially the banana ;)

Benigmatica

2017-01-08, 05:14

Episode 1:
Well, I have to say that it feels like a successor to Amagami. Of course, I'm curious to see if Shouichi Kamita score a date with Hikari Tsuneki right after explaining how she sneaked-in to the hotel.

Arya

2017-01-08, 07:58

mmm, while the vibes are surely the ones of Amagami SS, the characters seem far from being interesting. Letting aside the MC, his friend seems more MC material than him, at first sight the first girl here would have ranked among the last of the original Amagami (of which only Haruka and the last girl were really interesting for me).
Oh, by the way I didn't know there were a second season of Amagami.
I'll stick around to see what are the hidden pros of the MC and if there's some interesting girl. I wonder if his sister will be part of it.

Ulin

2017-01-08, 08:16

Since I haven't watched Amagami I don't know how this works. The story will deep going while he keeps winning girls over or will the story reset itself like in a VN showing the different possibilities?

Kakurin

2017-01-08, 08:34

Arya

2017-01-08, 09:40

Known as omnibus format. And personally not a fan.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-01-08, 11:23

Known as omnibus format. And personally not a fan.

I'm a bit half and half.

On one hand, it allows the MC to have a path with all the girls and all of them would technically be canon, so fans of any of the pairings will get to have their ending.

On the other hand, when it comes to an anime version anyway, unless the series is a decent length, it puts a restriction on the number of episodes dedicated to each girl that all need to have a decent amount of development, so in this case, like with Amagami SS, that's four episodes per girl, and then one has to consider what their backgrounds are, situations that arise, and such, so things can very easily end up rushed and not developed enough.

Guardian Enzo

2017-01-08, 12:11

I'm not a big fan of the omnibus format, generally speaking. That said i thought the first Amagami series did it about as well as any romance anime has.

Julio C

2017-01-08, 12:47

That was actually a good first episode. I wish they would have slow down on the pacing since it kinda jump right in the middle of the action. Tsuneki, I like her already. MC is pretty cool, I thought he was going to be much worse than I thought he would be.

germanturkey

2017-01-08, 13:39

wincest would be great, but we're probably not going to get it. show seems interesting enough to keep watching though. i hope it's as good as hatsukoi.

Darthtabby

2017-01-08, 14:21

IMO omnibus format works well for dating sim adaptations like this and Amagami. It avoids turning things into a harem situation where you have six plus girls constantly tripping over each other competing for screen time and the MC.

serenade_beta

2017-01-08, 15:25

Though from the looks of it, there are only three girls anyways. So why is there a shot of more than three at one time in the OP? ........*shrug* More legs to show?

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-01-08, 16:56

Though from the looks of it, there are only three girls anyways. So why is there a shot of more than three at one time in the OP? ........*shrug* More legs to show?

Most likely planned for two cour - four episodes per girl for 24 episodes total, with 12 episode / 3 girls right now, then the next 3 girls / 12 episodes later.

Dextro

2017-01-08, 17:20

Not a bad first episode but not an amazing one either. To be fair I remember Amagami taking a bit of time to click with me as well but that had the benefit of staring off with one of the best girls in the show (Haruka). We'll see how this goes. hopefully it picks up since I really liked Amagami and would love to get more shows like it. That and we need that narrator to come back :heh:

Julio C

2017-01-08, 19:31

I watched Amagami SS over 7 times already and Plus like 4 times already, and I have high hopes for this show and so far it's pleasing.

Everything about it is great, MC however is not so great when it comes to motive. What is MC's motive? Why should we care about him? Is this his first experience with dating girls? This is the only thing that is concerning me. I really like the first girl already, and do we already have a winner for best girl?

Kunagisa

2017-01-08, 19:37

I love 2017 already.

scififan

2017-01-08, 22:15

https://s29.postimg.org/oqs2edrqf/Screenshot_from_2017_01_08_22_07_39.png
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The girl's look on Shoichi with disapproval is entertaining. The sitting on the desk without any cover underneath evoked the hot discussion. Some viewers think it is unrealistic, because it may lead to embarrassing result to the girl.

The anime's first girl is the popular girl at her school, and she is the runner up of Miss Santa Contest. She is admired by Shoichi. Shoihi feels jealous when he sees her with other men. This type of storytelling is common in shoujo manga and NTR manga. Ikou is just as the bff from Kimikiss and Amagami. He gives Shoichi friendly advises.

It seems ichi is a popular name, since we have seen Kouichi and Junicihi. According to the Twitter, episode 4 may have surprise for Kimikiss fans and Amagami fans.

The quality of artwork is greater than Kimikiss but less than Amagami. If they have more budget, I am certain it would be better.

Overall, the story pace of the first episode looks good. I am looking forward for the next episode.

MgMaster

2017-01-09, 09:48

Nothing like a Amagami SS successor to keep the heart warm in the winter ;3

blakstealth

2017-01-09, 10:03

Nothing like a Amagami SS successor to keep the heart warm in the winter ;3I'm cold. Will this first episode warm me up?

MeoTwister5

2017-01-09, 10:26

I have a thing for the childhood friend type so... yeah...

Also the eccentric type.

~Yami~

2017-01-12, 10:41

This is my first ever Amagami-series (yeah I forgot to watch those previous series)... and I think I can keep up well
It is little bit unusual since I haven't watched this kind of setting for quite a while.. but splitting them into several routes are kinda risky
I don't know how they did it in previous series.. but let's just try to enjoy each routes

I kinda like Tsuneki but I think there are too many mysterious vibe around her in this episode... like how the heck she could sneak away from mixer party into MC's hotel :heh:
is she a stalker? is she those kind of yandere who is really aggressive to chase down her target? :heh: I'm okay with both of it :heh:

grecefar

2017-01-12, 14:32

I was really looking foward to this anime, the setting like amagamiI love it, you can't get bitter if you favorite girl don't win and good start now entering the first girl quickly, oh well since is going to be 12 chapters they need to be fast to each girl unless it is 12 for the first 3 girls and then another 12 for the other 3.

anyway, I'm betting on this, I loved amagami and I hope this is going to be as good (well you can't beat haruka-senpai)

IceHism

2017-01-12, 16:05

AB079

2017-01-12, 16:25

Now our MC (I need to say that I really don't like him for now) is into the first girl route. Lots of fanservice and lovely scenes.

2 more episodes and we'll see how this arc ends.

grecefar

2017-01-12, 16:36

this season only has 3 girls, so 4 eps each

yeah I imagined it was like that because the opening only focused in only 3 girls.

Yamada II

2017-01-13, 23:08

Episode 2

So Kamita is a loser with a perverted mind and a belly button fetish. I think I can accept that last part...

The episode was nice. Tsuneki sure was having fun teasing Kamita. I thought the rumors of her being a bitch would hurt her and she was only putting up an act in front of Mako. But turns out she doesn't care and was having fun playing along lol. I like this girl. She's pretty fun. Though she deserves more than this loser belly button fetishist.

scififan

2017-01-14, 03:00

Two heroines are introduced in episode 2. Tsuneki's personality and Miu's personality are briefed.

The official website explained that the time is during July. If Shoichi chooses to attend the summer boot camp(Amagami reference), he is heading toward Tsuneki route. If Shoichi chooses not to attend the summer boot camp, he is heading toward an unknown route. It raises a question. How does Shoichi meet Miu if he does not attend the summer camp? I don't think it will be explained since Miu route is not planned in this season.

https://s23.postimg.org/h16883epn/Screenshot_from_2017_01_14_02_14_54.png

https://s29.postimg.org/y5859tson/Tsuneki_and_Shoichi.png

https://s30.postimg.org/uixqj4rpd/Miu_and_Shoichi.png

By the way, the mountain of deers is pretty much implying Amagami.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-01-14, 03:25

.....might as well say it.....

Dat ass. :heh:

FlareKnight

2017-01-14, 04:26

A pretty solid second episode. Certainly Tsuneki is more likable in this one and can at least understand her a bit more. Plus it makes sense how she ended up here. And clearly the lesson to take from this is that you shouldn't mess with deer.

Shoichi can certainly be a bit of an overreacting pervert, but at the same time....he tends to overreact in general. So that's probably just another aspect of his overreacting personality. Can kind of get the idea of Tsuneki continuing to tease him all this time because he is so over the top.

They are at a good point here. Now to see their relationship continue to build up heading into the second half of Tsuneki's arc.

Seihai

2017-01-14, 07:17

I'm not really bothered about Shoichi's libido itself. As a an adolescent young man, you want boobs. You want ass. You want belly buttons.. wait what! Well, to each their own, aye?lol But what's a bit frustrating is how he is really bad at hiding his thoughts because his expression gives it all away, heh. Then again he is inexperienced after all and it's not like Tsuneki gives a fuck either so meh. Overall their relationship is developing in a rather believable and natural way I think, that's all that matters.

Also nice cooking segment. That made me kind of hungry.

Stark700

2017-01-14, 08:17

Eh, I'm not sure I like Shoichi much. He definitely seems like a kind guy but he has way more fantasies than I had expected regarding Tsuneki. Pretty normal for a guy of his age though. This week's episode progressed their relationship but felt more in a silly direction. I'm pretty sure it'll get serious soon.

~Yami~

2017-01-14, 08:35

IRL, I'll hate someone like Tsuneki so much...
that is why I'm more curious at how Shoichi would sort things out with her

so far, he is doing good job... he didn't show out his lust and trying to approach her in pure way
Things would be more serious after they come back to school I think... since they can't possibly showed how close they are after summer break
for now, I'll just enjoy the fanservice :P

IceHism

2017-01-14, 09:26

Huh, that climbing into the window scene didn't really end up being much.

Wow, that's a beautiful midnight snack but other than that, I feel sort of disappointed in the stuff that happened this episode. Tsuneki is as cute as ever though.

Ulin

2017-01-14, 09:47

That is not Spanish omelette!!! Garlic? Oven? I guess that's how a Japanese would feel if they saw how I make ramen... :D:D

Wandering Soul

2017-01-14, 11:05

I'm sold on Tsuneki. She has a fun personality along with some quirks.

Shoichi does tend to overreact, but I guess that's why Tsuneki finds it so fun to tease him.

Deers can be scary.

Blueknight78

2017-01-14, 12:50

lol, first why this have a "harem tag" when the serie is not a harem but a "single girl each x episodes???.

I really like this sort of serie where you don't need a "ship war", where all the girls can have the mc for themself in the end i prefer this way more than the tipical harem shinengami, i feel this make the story more interesting and all the girls get equal treatment and development and happy ending.

now about this episode, why male young japaneses are so "overreacting" about females to the point of fantasy about "ecchi stuffs" on almost every action, this guy really need to "release" all his stress, the way he act and see each moment as a "ecchi stuff" is a little over the top, it's not like things like have to share cloths never can happen in the world and he must act like a little horny dog on each thing, well i think which don't help too much the fact which she like to tease him and make the not so too lewd situation look more lewd" :heh::heh::heh:, really a fun girl, let's see how the things gonna end with her.

Another note i really didn't believe which 2/3 parts of the episode where just "one day" all the scenes showing time pass, i was thinking which alread passed some days but was still the same day and how fast the rumors spread in the hotel, the pace really looked weird here but was still good.

Guardian Enzo

2017-01-14, 13:28

I'm not really bothered about Shoichi's libido itself. As a an adolescent young man, you want boobs. You want ass. You want belly buttons..

All those things are nice, but they pale next to the true H-spot - collarbones...

Darthtabby

2017-01-14, 16:35

That dream sequence was a bit much. Otherwise I liked this episode. It captured the playfulness that made Amagami fun to watch.

BTW, what's the actual Spanish name for "Spanish Omelette"? I actually had something like that (sometimes in a sandwich) while travelling in Spain and Portugal but I can't remember what it's called! It was pretty good though.

Guardian Enzo

2017-01-14, 17:05

Tortilla española.

IceHism

2017-01-14, 17:28

Oh yea this was a good moment too
http://i.imgur.com/AU2SRC4.jpg

Geez. I guess in true amagami fashion, it has a bunch of weird fetishes.

Ulin

2017-01-14, 18:32

BTW, what's the actual Spanish name for "Spanish Omelette"? I actually had something like that (sometimes in a sandwich) while travelling in Spain and Portugal but I can't remember what it's called! It was pretty good though.

In fact, we usually call it "Tortilla de Patatas" :p although as Guardian Enzo says, sometimes it can be known as Tortilla Española

FlareKnight

2017-01-14, 18:33

Oh yea this was a good moment too
http://i.imgur.com/AU2SRC4.jpg

Geez. I guess in true amagami fashion, it has a bunch of weird fetishes.
Well...so far no one has turned into a bowl of ramen :heh:.

HandofFate

2017-01-14, 22:19

pretty funny episode 02.
Tsuneki such a troll.

the two girls with the yankee haircuts reactions was funny. The way Tsuneki handled the rumors about being a slut was well done. Course there's the underlying bit how since she's able to joke and play along with it, she doesn't mind if the rumors were true that they do lewd stuff together

npal

2017-01-15, 09:12

Not sure which one of them is worse, honestly...

Arya

2017-01-15, 09:59

mmm, this second episode confirmed my previous impressions honestly. I'll wait for the next girl to see which spin they'll put on her, but I can't see I'm looking forward to this show.

Julio C

2017-01-15, 12:46

Here I thought that Kaoru and Juichi had a kinky relationship when Tsuneki and Shochi are taking it to the next level.

Also in case nobody noticed this already, Mako=Keiko, same girl with the same voice actress. Dammit, I still wish the made a Keiko route.

IceHism

2017-01-15, 13:04

Well...so far no one has turned into a bowl of ramen :heh:.

I'm waiting for something on the level of ramen bondage roleplay still :heh:

DragoonKain3

2017-01-15, 14:48

Honestly? Like another poster here has said, this is way too generic. I mean, if teasing girls is your thing (like everyone knows childhood friends are my thing), then I won't judge. Only thing that got interesting is that Hikari started to wear MC's track suit, which is only an indirect interest since I was wondering if wearing another person of the opposite sex's clothes is considered intimate in Japan (spurred by a certain Sangatsu no Lion episode). So yes, it's part of the reason why the student body thinks Hikari and MC are dating.

Only thing that's keeping me going is that its Ayaneru who's voicing Hikari. Seriously, I can listen to her non-loli voice (think Fafnir) all day long, and this series is one of the better ones too. Of course there's still the childhood friend arc (voiced by none other than Kimura Juri of Shirobako fame as Aoi), but looks like imma gonna skip the other girl's arc if it goes on like this.

All those things are nice, but they pale next to the true H-spot - collarbones...
Damn you man, I just snorted my drink thinking of Kyou no Go no Ni. :heh:

Now I know why I wasn't that impressed with the back leg of Amagami or the like, as Class 5-2 already got into weird body part fetishes already.The skit for those interested. L8ViyLEpQQs

scififan

2017-01-15, 18:32

Damn you man, I just snorted my drink thinking of Kyou no Go no Ni. :heh:

Now I know why I wasn't that impressed with the back leg of Amagami or the like, as Class 5-2 already got into weird body part fetishes already.The skit for those interested. L8ViyLEpQQs

I tried to refrain to compare this show with other show. Since you started it, I have some input. Comparing it to Kyou no Go no Ni is as comparing apple to orange. Kyou no Go no Ni is merely a comedy, and nothing more.

Seiren(as well as Amagami/Kimikiss) is playing with viewers' minds, and imagination. It throws in several border ecchi materials. The comparable show is Kuzu no Honkai, but that show goes over the borderline. Kuzu no Honkai has dark theme, and it also plays with viewers' minds. To avoid spoilers, I'll talk about it in that thread.

Arturia Polaris

2017-01-15, 18:39

I'm a grown man why am i enjoying the op so much

IceHism

2017-01-20, 03:52

Ep3:
Wtf there is isn't much to build a relationship on at this point. They can't just unload all the romance in ep4. That'll just feel unsatisfying. Can't believe it's been three episodes and they aren't even dating yet or have established a mutual interest. Instead, all they have is more teasing and shouichi's pissing and feet fetish.

Hakai

2017-01-20, 05:11

So little happened in the first 3 episodes, really hope the next arcs don't have the same horrible pacing.

Ulin

2017-01-20, 06:38

DragoonKain3

2017-01-20, 11:19

I'm actually pissed off... slow-moving romances is a hallmark of childhood friend couples (think Rihoko in Amagami who only really got into a relationship in 2nd season), and Tsuneki stealing that from Tohno is eating me alive. I guess one can see that the MC's relationship with Tsuneki is being built up like childhood friends, so I should be happy, but I can't help but feel that they're leaving nothing for Tohno.

@scififan
Sorry man, didn't think anyone would take my comment seriously. It was just a light hearted reply to a light hearted joke. No need to over think it.

To be fair though, it was Enzo who started it... :p

Stark700

2017-01-20, 11:21

The romance doesn't feel evident or at least really tame at the moment. I guess they'll really have to push the relationship of the two main leads of this arc soon.

AB079

2017-01-20, 11:48

Hmmm it was a pretty boring episode despite the fanservice and how every situation put the MC closer to this girl, well there is one episode left for this arc but so far it isn't that good is we compare it with the first arc of Amagami SS.

Yamada II

2017-01-20, 18:12

Episode 3

I really love Tsuneki's teasing. She started with the high temperature thing right after people said that she's here to flirt. She's not effected by everyone thinking of her as a slut bitch. She just ends up having fun with that. Tsuneki's playful, teasing side would be best complemented by someone who's not a loser like Kamita.

And it seems that Araki-senpai has been taken while Tsuneki was studying during summer vacations. Though it never really felt that much to me that Tsuneki had something for Araki-senpai. Or it could be just me. Anyway, we're reaching the climax for this girl and her stuff should end next week after which we'll move on to the next girl and I kinda doubt the new girl will be as fun as Tsuneki.

Also, that nekoing foot and belly button fetishist of an MC. It's kinda different with how they give things like this some weird focus. Kamita didn't stare at Tsuneki's boobs of all the things there to gawk at. He looked at her belly button. Kinda nice... I guess.

Blueknight78

2017-01-20, 22:28

i gonna say i honestely prefer the mc from Amagami SS, here the mc is the typical loser protakun, this get annoying very fast, while i like all of the tsuneki teasing the mc, his reactions stop very fast to be funny and more annoying how he look too much cliche even more than the girls by being the typical peniless looser the guy in Amagami SS was much better and actually "manly" instead of this fail guy, excluding it so far is funny tsuneki arc next episode will be the last and we gonna get the next girl and i really hope he can be a litte different with next girl and less ultra shy.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-01-20, 23:24

Yeah, sadly, Hikari is the only good thing so far.

As it was mentioned in other places, one of the the things that made Amagami SS interesting was that it was BOTH Junichi AND the main girl of the arc, both individually and mutually, that made it fun to watch since, of course, it takes BOTH parties to make a relationship work. Junichi actually had a personality and an established baseline "problem" with his being stood up for a Christmas date, so you actually have a reason to root for him in winning the girl over as he tries to overcome the fear of it possibly happening again and such.

There's nothing like that with Shouichi. He has no real personality aside from the typical "nice" male MC cliches nor is there any reason to root for him besides JUST being the MC, which isn't good. Sure, they clearly TRIED to make him seem more Junichi like with the fetish attention and a couple hijinks, but unlike Junichi, who actually manned up and did stuff (and usually resulted in funny, endearing, and enjoyable moments between him and the girl), Shouichi just comes off a bit creepy as a result...

Basically, Hikari is the one who has been carrying this whole arc so far while Shouichi barely registers as even a side character, much less the MC.

novalysis

2017-01-20, 23:38

I still cannot figure out how we are going to get from the friendzone to actual romance three episodes in. Because, as much as Hikari is teasing Shouichi, from his perspective, Hikari's actions at the camp are perfectly self-consistent with a gad-flyish trolling self in school, only transposed to the context of a camp where she is bored out of her mind. For all we know, Hikari's forwardness to Shouichi was not the result of any romantic affection (though the genre demands that it has to be), but rather the result of being bored, utterly out of place in the camp, and Shouichi being the only one from Hikari's social circle to mess around with.

Also, Shouichi is a very boring and inconsistently written protagonist, that slides from an utterly useless and indecisive wimp to somewhat competent as the plot demands. He comes off as a flat one-dimensional hormonal nice guy..... and to be honest, I don't care what happens to him at this stage. This is not the case with Hikari.

In-fact, I'd rather see more reverse harem Shoujo protagonist be like Hikari. And on that topic, Shouichi is basically the male equivalent of one of the cliche Shoujo reverse harem protagonists who are utterly passive doormats.

Arturia Polaris

2017-01-21, 01:32

I love a girl that knows she's hot stuff and fakes ignorance. It certainly is better than having one that is totally oblivious to half the room looking at her.

That said, can the snitch be more obvious?

Incest Emblem

2017-01-21, 03:47

Does it really need to build toward a romantic conclusion? Given that we have not gotten any unambiguous romantic development and that there is but only one episode left, perhaps this arc with end with a platonic relationship between the pairing? It did happen in Amagami SS, after all, so it can happen here.

Ulin

2017-01-21, 04:11

The saddest thing is that I was more interested in Tsuneki's friend and sensei's relationship with just a 30 seconds interaction than in the main couple's...

FlareKnight

2017-01-21, 04:26

Yeah does seem a given that Tsuneki was basically ratted out to keep her from being able to attend the trip. Hard to say if she was really a threat, but that seems to be the reason that girl likely ratted her out.

As a whole I'd still say Tsuneki has been a fun character and not a bad person to start out with. Definitely brings a lot of personality and energy.

Though will say that I agree with the slow build overall. Considering each arc is 4 episodes it feels like they should have ramped things up a bit faster than this. Maybe if they had 6 episodes for each girl I could see this one ending on a decent point. Not that things aren't moving in a positive direction with these two. With enough time I could see something happening there. If they compressed the first 3 episodes into 2 episodes somehow I think this would be a bit smoother.

Feels like it will be on Tsuneki to help her arc reach a satisfactory end. Presumably she'll deal with the snitching. Maybe Shoichi will do something dramatic thinking she still suspects him of snitching on her and that will push things forward between them in a hurry.

In the end I'm still enjoying the arc. Might mostly be thanks to Tsuneki's pure energy. Still, hasn't been a bad ride. Was mostly fun last episode especially having her mess with all those people who were basically judging and making presumptions about her anyways. They'll all go their separate ways after that camp anyways so might as well mess with them.
Does it really need to build toward a romantic conclusion? Given that we have not gotten any unambiguous romantic development and that there is but only one episode left, perhaps this arc with end with a platonic relationship between the pairing? It did happen in Amagami SS, after all, so it can happen here.
True, though I'd be surprised if they started out with the platonic one. Would be a surprising start. Though I didn't really care for how S1 for Amagami did that since it just felt...unresolved.

Hakai

2017-01-21, 05:26

At this point I'm expecting this arc to end with just confirming strong mutual interest between them rather than full-blown romance.

Julio C

2017-01-21, 17:16

At this point, no way they can wrapped this up with a full romance. It's going to be more like Rihoko's end. MC still kinda sucks, and I hope the next two arcs helps him improved.

Tsuneki needs some self control, she is almost at a slut level. I don't know how the next two girls will top her because so far she is just amazing, but not Haruka amazing.

npal

2017-01-21, 17:28

And here I thought I was the only one who thought the MC kinda sucks.

Blueknight78

2017-01-21, 17:59

And here I thought I was the only one who thought the MC kinda sucks.

yeah so far at last on this arc looks like the problem is the mc and all the arc being carried solely by the girl and i really hope is just this arc, if all the others girls arc gonna be like that gonna be really annoying have a too "passive" mc where he looks more like a "background" character and everything must be worked by the girls otherwise "nothing gonna happen" from mc side, the amagami mc was much, really a lot better than this one he had a strong personality and worked to move the plot while here the mc just "wait the girl" pop-up and do everything otherwise he is just a "boring" and annyoing pervert character.

npal

2017-01-21, 18:07

yeah so far at last on this arc looks like the problem is the mc and all the arc being carried solely by the girl and i really hope is just this arc, if all the others girls arc gonna be like that gonna be really annoying have a too "passive" mc where he looks more like a "background" character and everything must be worked by the girls otherwise "nothing gonna happen" from mc side, the amagami mc was much, really a lot better than this one he had a strong personality and worked to move the plot while here the mc just "wait the girl" pop-up and do everything otherwise he is just a "boring" and annyoing pervert character.

His friend looking more robust doesn't really help his case either. I wouldn't mind if they switched :P

germanturkey

2017-01-21, 19:18

so we're going to ignore the part where he had a raging boner when talking to the sensei. gotcha.

Blueknight78

2017-01-21, 19:22

so we're going to ignore the part where he had a raging boner when talking to the sensei. gotcha.

:heh::heh: this say something when in the "whole arc" the only thing he did was "get a hard boner". :heh::heh::heh:, that is really "something :heh::heh:, specially when is in front of other "male"

Wandering Soul

2017-01-21, 20:31

so we're going to ignore the part where he had a raging boner when talking to the sensei. gotcha.

Not much to say. We all know he was still "excited" from Tsuneki's teasing though.

That said, this episode actually left me more interested in sensei's relation with Tsuneki's friend.

blakstealth

2017-01-21, 21:16

I thought I was gonna hate MC's guts, but he's tolerable AT TIMES. I like his relationship with his sister, and he seems like a good guy with Ikuo. And I dig Tsuneki. She's a cool girl.

That said, this episode actually left me more interested in sensei's relation with Tsuneki's friend.You talking about Mako? I like her, too.

Dextro

2017-01-22, 13:06

Yeah, I'll join the chorus of people bashing the Main Character, he just has nothing going for him. There doesn't seem to be any interesting backstory to him (so far) and all he's done is being a bit creep with some weird fetishes in his mind. Not really much to make me relate to what's very close to a walking piece of cardboard.

Tsuneki on the other hand has grown to be interesting. She seems like that popular, hyper girl who guys just can't help but fantasize about but would make an unbearable girlfriend for exactly the same reasons. Not really my favourite kind of characters but they're interesting to watch.

kk2extreme

2017-01-22, 13:11

Boring protagonist makes everything girls around him more interesting ;)

Arya

2017-01-23, 06:50

^ To me it's the exact opposite. An insignificant protagonist makes hard to understand why a girl would be attracted by him, so despite the current girl is not that bad, the fact that she seems to find some attractiveness in him detracts a lot of points from her too.

If I may understand the cheap logic behind the need for a dumb or a wimp, or whatever character is needed, in harem shows (one among others to enable the story to last) this is not the case. I mean, there are not many girls falling simultaneously for the MC, nor they have to fill a 12 episodes story. That would be the perfect ground to develop two rounded characters that could elicit some good dynamics. Or well, in this case just some dynamics would be enough.
But no. They decided otherwise. :heh:

scififan

2017-01-24, 02:50

Sorry but I can't stand the MC at all... so you freak out because she is eating the bowl of ramen you have left? but it is okay to spend much time with her in your room all alone, going to take a bath in a bikini and you even suggest to show you the bikini in the shower? Come on!

I don't care about any of them, and there is only one episode left... I don't know, I'll see how it concludes and then decide if I continue with the next girl

The only time I see a person eat or drink another person's left over are family members. It can be wife drink her husband's water, or parent eats his child's food. The act may imply that she thinks him more than just a friend.

I am looking forward to the next episode, since designer's Twitter mentions about Kimikiss and Amagami. I'll continue to watch the other episodes.

AB079

2017-01-26, 20:45

There is one thing that I have to say about this last episode of the current arc.. it was shit. After all these 3 episode of development all ended on "let's pause this until I came back". Literally there is a gap of at least 2 years where they didn't saw each other and the entire arc was wrap at the end with the scene where they meet each other again.

I seriously hope the next arc provide something better.

DragoonKain3

2017-01-26, 22:48

Umm.... LOL? Nothing really came big came out of Yukie betraying Hikari, Hikari didn't even get mad (guess being childhood friends means a lot of leeway for forgiveness :shrug: ), Hikari and MC have feelings for each other but don't even date for the year they have together, and finally they only reunite after five years in the same restaurant she used to work at? I dunno guys, that was really contrived. XD

Only saving grace really is Ayaneru, and so I think I gonna skip the next 4 episodes. I'll see you guys again when it's Kyouko's turn.

n0m@n

2017-01-26, 22:56

So they kissed. But Tsuneki decided to not have a relationship because she wanted to prioritize her dream. Then they reunite (by a coincidence?) 5 years later?

Yup, this is the worst shit. I mean they didn't become a couple after all. The only funny thing was the Yukie. Probably one of the worst friend you could have. So it was hilarious that her relation only lasted for a short time.

Perhaps the script writer wanted to do something similar to ManakaXNishino from Ichigo100%. But this garbage is nowhere near that romance.

Flower

2017-01-26, 23:18

Ep 04

I ... really am torn in a way.

I can understand why Tsuneki decided to go the route she did, I suppose, and that's fine and all as far as that goes. But I can't help but think she really did treat Kamita quite poorly pretty consistently, when it boils down to it, and I think this was really my problem with this arc from the get go.

Kamita may be rather boring and not have a lot to him or the like, but I can't help but feel he deserves better. Mind you, I would have been fine with the separating for her to go follow her dream of whatever in and of itself ... if only she had treated him decently for a change.

Ironically my favorite part of the episode was when Kamita confronted her over the clothes and finally stood up to her. That's ... not a very good sign over all in terms of the portrayal of their relationship in my book.

Ah well - hopefully other viewers enjoyed this one much more than I did. :\

IceHism

2017-01-27, 01:51

I was afraid that it was gonna have an unsatisfying ending and i was right. I certainly do not watch an amagami-styled show for endings like this. sigh. They didn't even have 1 real date. Definitely not as good as Haruka's arc. or even Tsukasa's. I don't know if i'll stick around for the next girl so maybe i'll just get back to it when it is osananajimi's turn. And nice, drama gets solved with a talk. I barely see that tbh. Also lol at Araki preferring to live with a rabbit than with any other human partner. I thought the furry thing was kind of a joke.

The scene on the beach was really really cute though. Especially that kiss in the ocean. kyaa

Stark700

2017-01-27, 03:50

I got really mixed thoughts after this arc/episode. Tsuneki is a pretty fun character and I think the show fleshed out her personality pretty well in general. I had mixed bags about her character chemistry with Kamita from start to finish. It was silly mostly because of Kamita's constant delusions about her. Tsuneki's flirty personality towards him was amusingly to watch at several points though.

I think the arc mainly was one big tease of a relationship that didn't really come to fruition in the end. Idk, I just thought their relationship would of progressed after that beach segment, although I have to admit, the underwater kiss was quite something.

Hakai

2017-01-27, 06:46

This was alright, could have been much better IMO because Tsuneki-san really is a pretty good heroine/character.

I'll still be watching this but my expectations for the next arcs got much lower.

RedWingFM

2017-01-27, 08:11

This was alright, could have been much better IMO because Tsuneki-san really is a pretty good heroine/character.

I'll still be watching this but my expectations for the next arcs got much lower.

I'm not sure about this. Maybe next arc with his senpai will be more interesting than Tsuneki arc.
And I hope that in episode 8 we wouldn't see a remark: 5 years later.

MeoTwister5

2017-01-27, 08:46

Good lord not even Rihoko got shafted this bad in season 1.

Here's hoping the other 3 girls get handled better.

npal

2017-01-27, 11:40

Ep 4... What did I just watch...?

Sakuratsuki

2017-01-27, 17:18

I looked forward to this especially because of being someone who watched the Amagami series. I had high expectations but then episode 4 happened....... I was just like, ''What did I just watch''. :heh: Not really a way to promote the game if you ask me.

Dextro

2017-01-27, 19:34

Boy talk about a catastrophic ending to an arc. I know Amagami had a couple of weak arcs but none of the them crashed and burned in quite the same way this one did. Damn!

This arc had been weak from the start: Tsuneki started out mistreating our walking piece of cardboard MC and ended in basically the same place, along the way they hinted at her growing but quickly reverted all that as soon as possible and then they just added some cheap drama that never really felt used in any way, shape or form just to have it "resolved" in an impressively anti-climatic way... Ok, I understand that she didn't get mad because she had, quite probably, already moved on from Araki to our doormat MC but the show made absolute no attempt to sell that particular development.

Honestly, I can't even work up the effort to try and distill further what went wrong, I think I'll just go find Amagami SS and rewatch that instead :heh:

Psyco Diver

2017-01-27, 23:33

It looks like I found my train wreck this season, something so bad I can't turn away. I've haven't had a good train wreck in a couple seasons

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-01-27, 23:44

Hmm...I dunno if I'd go as far as "train wreck", but the execution was definitely below par. The beginning and even the very end weren't TOO bad, but the middle didn't really give us anything solid to go with, and it doesn't help that Shouichi never really has any platform to stand on to get us to root for him like Junichi does with his "stood up on a Christmas Eve date" bit.

Darthtabby

2017-01-28, 01:57

Julio C

2017-01-28, 02:10

Tsuneki likes to take showers with her uniform on? What an amazing girl.

Epsiode 4 was surprisingly better than I though it was, but that ending was worse than Rihoko's end. I'm saddened that they just stay friends for the rest of the year, and we don't know if they are going to hook up or not.

I really hope the next arc is better, but nobody can top Tsuneki anymore especially with her fetish that she has.

Flower

2017-01-28, 02:33

Incest Emblem

2017-01-28, 03:03

Risa is much cuter than her sister.

This episode had some really nice snippets. The beach scene was quite beautiful, but it is hard to reconcile with how rushed and out of place it seemed in the context of how Shoichi and Hikari's relationship (did not) develop over the past 3 episodes, so it was hard to enjoy. I thought the arc took a bold approach to their relationship at the end, with Hikari choosing to develop her career and keep their friendship the same. Except it was marred by the poorly developed romance mixed into the development, and the timeskip was a poor way to end the arc.

Let's see how the second arc goes.

serenade_beta

2017-01-28, 03:34

Yeah... I can't exactly say that was a good arc. Mainly because the ending sucked. Don't become a couple + a huge time skip that honestly doesn't mean much? Bloody great, eh.
A bit foreboding for the first arc in the anime, but...
*sigh* Anyways, I'm not impressed.

AntonKutovoi

2017-01-28, 05:31

So... First she frenches him and then friendzones him. What the hell, lady?

Ulin

2017-01-28, 07:12

Poor arc... makes me think of dropping this totally, but I guess I'll give it a second chance since we are starting again (Zero kara? lol :) )

Two things I really hated were the conversation with the other girl because, she behaves like trash but it doesn matter... If I like this boy I can make my friend lose her job, I can do anything and who cares? I would have prefered that Tsuneki had punched her in the face ;)
And the last part with the deers and Spain... I guess this is since I am from Spain and I always happen to find this strange ideas about the country :heh: :heh:

Well, at least the kiss was nice, but I can't understand this kind of ending for an anime like this one, but as there wasn't nearly enough development in the previous episodes... I guess I'll stick for the next arc and then make a decision

Yamada II

2017-01-28, 08:37

Episode 4

This episode had quite some weird happenings. Tsuneki finds out that her friend ratted her out all for the selfish reason of getting Araki-senpai to herself and get Tsuneki out of the way. But Tsuneki didn't blow up and end her friendship or anything. She was pretty cool about it which felt pretty weird probably because I'm more used to seeing the usual reaction. Not sure if this was good or not.

And then the ending was also weird. Even though they had that hot underwater kiss, Tsuneki didn't want to start dating Kamita and also didn't want to even hear his confession. I expected that she would have at least heard his confession if not start dating. But even then the not dating end was still weird. Also not sure if this was good since I'm more used to the other kind of endings.

Overall, I liked this arc for the fun Tsuneki moments. The rest was pretty meh, especially little loser Kamita who was ultra meh. Could have been better if Kamita was also a fun guy like Tsuneki. Found some moments cringe worthy too. Not really sure if the other girls will be as good as Tsuneki.

Gundam Meister

2017-01-28, 08:57

I have a felling that will be getting After Story episodes for each girl with the blu rays

blakstealth

2017-01-28, 09:41

My fuckin heart collapsed on itself. This is almost as bad as Rihoko's season 1 arc. I can see Hikari's reasoning for not wanting to get together with him, but fuck, man! I just wish Shoichi was more assertive even if the result was gonna be the same. He could've said so much more on that beach. I like me a nice and happy ending, so I'm saddened that this turned out to be more bitter and less sweet. I mean, they exchanged numbers but never even once texted each other? fuuuuuuuck, man. I really like Hikari and the arc overall, so I'm not gonna score it lower JUST because they didn't get together at the end. I'm real salty right now, Salty like that fuckin beach water. I hope hope hope they do an Amagami SS+ when this whole season ends.

Also like mentioned above, I had no idea Makoto was Risa's lil sister. Her little appearance in this episode was really cute. I love the contrast between Makoto being a discipline committee person who's all about the ethical and moral principles (supposedly), while Risa's a straight up creep and starts gossip.

Anyway, I'm excited for gamer chick next week.

HandofFate

2017-01-28, 09:56

Yeah, maybe not the best way to end the first arc in an omnibus series. On the other hand it is an omnibus series, so the next arc could have a very different ending.

BTW, apparently that girl who's part of the disciplinary committee is the sister of the girl who stalks Junichi in Amagami. :heh:

oh wow, didn't know it shared the same universe. Any have the name of the one in Amagami?

Didn't think the ending was that bad.

Hate it when high school couples throw away good opportunities just for the sake of being together for a year. So was glad she went for her career. Cutting off all contact, not giving any text is pretty cold though.
In 5 years, him and her sure don't look any different.

Anh_Minh

2017-01-28, 11:23

oh wow, didn't know it shared the same universe. Any have the name of the one in Amagami?

Didn't think the ending was that bad.

Hate it when high school couples throw away good opportunities just for the sake of being together for a year. So was glad she went for her career.
I'd normally agree, but she chose her career pretty impulsively, didn't she? "Someone liked my cooking! Time to pack my bags and spend years abroad studying gourmet cuisine!" (Did she even speak Spanish when she decided that?)

Kanon

2017-01-28, 12:29

I really liked Tsuneki, but god, that ending was awful and sort of ruined the arc. I hope they'll do better with the next girl.

Arturia Polaris

2017-01-28, 14:15

This whole arc reminds me of real life. It sucks but not in a way like it's bad rather than this shit DOES happen.

Granted it's not why people normally watch anime, these types of animes specifically, but hey I'm left with a bittersweet taste which is probably what they intended.

I liked the ending in a way UNTIL they put the 5 years later scene, THAT pissed me off. Had they done it like in Angel Beats! it might have been ok but a whole scene? nah.

6/10 hoping the next girls are as interesting.

Incest Emblem

2017-01-28, 15:02

oh wow, didn't know it shared the same universe. Any have the name of the one in Amagami?
If you are talking about the school, it is called Kibitou High. If you are talking about the stalker, her name is Risa Kamizaki. Ikuo is Ai Nanasaki's younger brother, and unlike Risa's younger sister, he appeared in Amagami SS.

Aogami

2017-01-28, 15:38

Preview for the next heroine, Miyamae Toru, is up:
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Don't want to get my hopes too high yet, but first impressions are that this next arc may be a decent step up from Hikari's arc since MC likely won't be spilling his spaghetti as easily and has a shared interest with Toru, plus the new ending theme sounds great.

Wandering Soul

2017-01-28, 15:52

The arc had a a nice setup and Tsuneki had a fun personality, but the arc had a weak ending and overall felt subpar.

schedmaster

2017-01-28, 16:14

Dawnstorm

2017-01-28, 16:22

Ikuo is Ai Nanasaki's younger brother, and unlike Risa's younger sister, he appeared in Amagami SS.

Wait, what? Now I want to meet their parents. They have raised a pair of amazing kids. :heh:

blakstealth

2017-01-28, 16:52

If you are talking about the school, it is called Kibitou High. If you are talking about the stalker, her name is Risa Kamizaki. Ikuo is Ai Nanasaki's younger brother, and unlike Risa's younger sister, he appeared in Amagami SS.my mind has been blown twice in one page.

Julio C

2017-01-28, 19:12

After watching this 3 times, I have to say it's understandable and humbling. Understandable for the fact it felt realistic and more likely to happen in today's world. Humbling for the fact that I have to acknowledge that love works in strange ways and it works differently with each person. It's not a perfect process and it takes time.

You watch everything 3 times already or just this episode? It takes multiple watches to truly appreciate any show. I remember watching Amagami SS+ for the first time, I really didn't like it. However, after watching it several times over the years, I really love it now.

I may not like Seiren now, but if I watch it multiple times I will probably like it a whole lot more. This arc did had a more realistic relationship, something that could happen in real life and not all fruity and happy ending all the time. Maybe the creators wanted to try something different for once?

schedmaster

2017-01-28, 19:33

You watch everything 3 times already or just this episode? It takes multiple watches to truly appreciate any show. I remember watching Amagami SS+ for the first time, I really didn't like it. However, after watching it several times over the years, I really love it now.

I may not like Seiren now, but if I watch it multiple times I will probably like it a whole lot more. This arc did had a more realistic relationship, something that could happen in real life and not all fruity and happy ending all the time. Maybe the creators wanted to try something different for once?

Actually, this series: I watched each episode at least twice, but this last one, I watched it three times.

Incest Emblem

2017-01-28, 19:51

The way this arc developed actually felt much less likely to happen than the alternative scenarios. Consider the following:

1. A popular high school girl is stuck in summer boot camp with an average guy she has a (non-romantic) interest in. He is one of the few people she knows and one of the few who pay attention to her rather than have his head stuck in a book. They help each other. After summer camp is over, she returns to her circle of friends, and the girl and the guy become closer as platonic friends.

2. A popular high school girl is stuck in summer boot camp with an average guy she has a (non-romantic) interest in. He is one of the few people she knows and one of the few who pay attention to her rather than have his head stuck in a book. They help each other. Over the course of summer camp, they develop romantic feelings toward each other, and they start dating regularly.

3. A popular high school girl is stuck in summer boot camp with an average guy she has a (non-romantic) interest in. He is one of the few people she knows and one of the few who pay attention to her rather than have his head stuck in a book. They help each other. During camp, he inspires her to pursue a particular dream that she was in doubt about, and they develop romantic feelings toward each other. After camp, they share one wild, celibate evening together, then keep each other at arms' length so the girl can focus on pursuing her dream for the remaining 1.5 years of high school.

Now, which of these sounds like something that you normally see happen in high school? It seems to me that the so called wish fulfillment scenario--scenario 2--is actually far more likely than what happened in this arc--scenario 3. If you want a humbling but realistic scenario, scenario 1 is still the far more likely than scenario 3. And frankly, scenario 1 follows the setup from the first 3 episodes of this arc much better than scenario 3.

Nachtwandler

2017-01-28, 20:45

My main problem with this series is MC. MCs in Kimi Kiss were really decent and MC in Amagami too even if a bit less so. Heck, even FotoKano MC was better. I got that MC should be ultimately plain so male otakus can place thamself on his place but I thought this thing became outadated lately?

~Yami~

2017-01-28, 21:49

ugh... I can't stand someone like Tsuneki.. but what could you do when she kept seducing you like that?
I might give up pretty early like what MC did

to be honest, starting from now, I think this is how everything would get better
we'll see the true feeling of Tsuneki
I'm not going to complain if it turned out that Tsuneki got NTR'd by her friend
I think it would be a good time for MC to show something

that bath scene is hilarious anyway :heh:

HandofFate

2017-01-28, 22:54

Blueknight78

2017-01-28, 23:01

My main problwem with this series is MC. MCs in Kimi Kiss were really decent and MC in Amagami too even if a bit less so. Heck, even FotoKano MC was better. I got that MC should be ultimately plain so male otakus can place thamself on his place but I thought this thing became outadated lately?

shameless\beta/near gay/ coward mcs never will stop to be "otakus" priority and never outdated, as long the amount of "herbivore males" keep grown and more and more the otakus prefer to shut-in and use "ona-holes and others "replaces" for female this never gonna be outdated, this is the "sad side of anime/manga/novel market" 80 to 90% of the series aways will be or a peniless mc or a dense or a annoying perve(many times they can be all of that at same time).

That aways will be my complain, which have "normal" guys aways will be too difficult and "non-otaku friend" since "normal guys are hated by otakus.

Darthtabby

2017-01-29, 03:03

Heck, even FotoKano MC was better.

Kamita might not be the greatest MC ever, but at least he isn't scummy enough to blackmail a girl into posing for questionable photographs. There's a reason I quickly dropped PhotoKano.

I also appreciate that Kamita decided to go on the study trip out of a desire for self improvement.

I wonder what would have happened if they'd made Ai's brother the MC. I guess he wasn't generic enough for the male lead in an omnibus romance series. :p

Obelisk ze Tormentor

2017-01-29, 04:30

Yes, Seiren's MC is still better than the blackmailer MC of Photokano. Those who said otherwise might have forgot his bad deed.

npal

2017-01-29, 04:50

Yes, Seiren's MC is still better than the blackmailer MC of Photokano. Those who said otherwise might have forgot his bad deed.

I've forgotten Photokano altogether, let alone the MC :heh: But I recently watched Amagami and the MC there is more likeable overall.

serenade_beta

2017-01-29, 05:11

It takes multiple watches to truly appreciate any show.

Yeah, I think that's more on the line of brainwashing yourself or autosuggestion.

Arya

2017-01-29, 08:07

^ That's what I was thinking too :)

Not that it surprised me much, the first three episodes didn't impressed me at all, but the level of the comments saved me by watching the last episode.
Speaking of the MC, well the impression I've got is that he is still a kid so Tsuneki was someone out of his league (but I feel it could be applied to any girl but his sister), and the ending kinda unwillingly confirmed this. :p

So, well at least there's no need to reset anything.

Anh_Minh

2017-01-29, 09:33

Yeah, I think that's more on the line of brainwashing yourself or autosuggestion.

It's explained there (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/theory-of-awful-tv).

AC-Phoenix

2017-01-29, 15:04

So is this starting anew from the same day it started for the first girl or is it an ongiong story?
Would be a pain to have it stop now that Tsumeki stopped being an annoying b...

Or will this be an in between those 5 years?

Darthtabby

2017-01-29, 15:20

Each girl's story arc is an alternate continuity. Same as Amagami SS.

Anh_Minh

2017-01-29, 15:41

A pattern of the MC getting dumped and falling in love with a new girl the day after would be funny...

FlareKnight

2017-01-29, 15:41

I have to say that was surprisingly a solid episode to end the arc on. I wasn't sure they could make the standard confession and such work....and in that sense it was true. They kind of touched on the budding feelings, but didn't actually go for the immediate payoff.

While I look forward to seeing an arc that is more about Shoichi himself developing, this isn't a bad first one. It really was more about Tsuneki herself growing and maturing. And through this arc she found what she wanted to do, stepped out of her comfort zone, and handled things pretty well. Didn't even let the thing with her friend blow up, but rather just wanted confirmation on things.

The epilogue does help though :heh:. Allows a "ok, things will be fine with them" while giving them the time for development. Now that Tsuneki has made her round trip of culinary learning, maybe they can move ahead. Also gave time for Shoichi himself to mature a bit. Something that probably was needed for anything to seriously move forward for them.

In the end I still liked Tsuneki's character as a whole.

scififan

2017-01-29, 22:27

The ending is a bummer.

Years later, the show is only memorable moment may be Shoichi's desk...

https://i.imgur.com/79PbVV6.png?1
https://s30.postimg.org/wcwmg6tfl/Screenshot_from_2017_01_29_22_13_12.png

The ending kind of reminds me about Kimagure Orange Road. After open to each other, the girl went aboard to cool off. This type of plot is begging for scandal ending in today's manga.

I also wonder why Ikou seems so happy. Since the story is taking place at about same time as Kimkiss, he may refer to meeting that person.

https://s23.postimg.org/syqirpqfv/Screenshot_from_2017_01_29_22_09_09.png

EroKing

2017-01-30, 07:48

https://a.l3n.co/i/sraO5P.md.jpeg (https://lensdump.com/i/sraO5P) https://c.l3n.co/i/sralEm.md.jpeg (https://lensdump.com/i/sralEm)

Arturia Polaris

2017-01-30, 14:20

I finally remembered what the ending reminded me of. It's exactly like the ending of Nozoki Ana.

AB079

2017-02-02, 17:51

This new arc started in a really good way, I already like this new girl Miyamae Tooru.

The interaction between Tooru and Shouichi feels relaxed and legit, this is the other side of the coin compared with the first arc, that was plain boring and didn't feel any connection with Hikari.

Tooru fitted perfectly with the group of guys but the most affected (in a good way) by her is obviously Shouichi, and how he cannot be with that beauty around him. That last scene was a pure NTR bait, good thing that is her brother or some other family member.

bastek66

2017-02-03, 09:13

Wow, even Ayaneru didn't like first arc and called Hikari a slut (http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/99631)

grecefar

2017-02-03, 11:40

That ending of tsuneki arc was really disappointing and I can't hope for extra 2 chapter after that meeting... I just hope that this next arc goes better.

IceHism

2017-02-03, 14:38

sparhawk1610

2017-02-03, 15:32

I definitely like Tooru much more than Tsuneki. I hope that end of her arc will be less frustrating than Tsuneki.
But I enjoyed reactions about that guy at the end. But if you remember the name of that teacher from cram school was Sōta Miyamae and his voice was the same. So I think that it is him and it should be her Bro.

Incest Emblem

2017-02-03, 15:39

These two arcs make me wonder if Seiren is meant to be a negative commentary on otakus.

Arc 1: Popular girl abandons audience surrogate to pursue her career instead of wasting her time in the last year of high school. From the looks of things, she seems to be reasonably successful so far.

Arc 2: Honors student gets fired from her job, presumably for video game addition. There is plenty of time for her grade to take a hit with 3 episodes left.

Blueknight78

2017-02-03, 17:28

Man this episode just reminds me of how society pressures girls to not get into video games cause "it's for boys" and makes me so sad. Anyone should be able to get into competitive video games if they like that sort of stuff and not be judged for it. Go tooru, beat those guys in that Gundam vs Gundam copy.

Ahahahahahaha, that's really cute imo. Though I'm not sure if she is joking because I hardly see how a slut is just someone who teases people mercilessly.

well nowadays in the gamer community girls gamers and even "progamers" becoming very common you already have girls playing in official tournaments like LOL, SC2 WoW(areana) Street Fighter 4 and 5 and others E-sports, it's just a matter of time until they become so common as male and no more "game is only for boys"(honestly this already almost dead nowadays).

with ths episode and new arc i get a little divided in 2 feelings

if maybe due to peoples disliked the mc in the first arc, they made a change in don't look so "protakun" this time (still brushing and little fetish but better than before)

or if on each arc the MC will gonna have a "different personality" to match "each girl rout" like to wins a gamer girl the mc must be a gamer to wins the playfull one the mc must be "protakun" and things like that which means the mc itself don't have really a personality and it will change on each arc what make things also weird comparing with previous work where the mc have a fixed personality with just little changes here and there but overal was the same guy all the times.

about the episode again another good girl, i really liked that gamer girl she look fun and less "cliche" what is good and since the mc get a almost 100% change in personality(let's say 60 to 70%) the episode looked much better than the first one on the first girl arc, this arc looks like gonna be good but i hope we don't get another "sort of bad ending here".

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-02-03, 23:07

Geez, Seiren, what were you doing with the previous arc?

One episode into Tooru's arc and I'm already liking things way more than the entire previous arc. Even Shouichi comes off far more likable here. Not quite Junichi's level, but at least he's actually showing some initiative this time, and while still showing a little embarrassment over being close to a girl('s breasts), he doesn't come off like some kid seeing them for the very first time, and the slight bit of ecchi with his imagining Tooru as the bunny character, at least it didn't seem weird and creepy like the bunch of things in the previous arc.

Flower

2017-02-04, 01:25

Ep 05

Gotta agree that the first ep of Miyamae's arc already seems much more interesting than any of the eps of the previous arc for me.

Also, the ED is ... kinda interesting. Hmm....

sparhawk1610

2017-02-04, 02:43

Ep 05

Gotta agree that the first ep of Miyamae's arc already seems much more interesting than any of the eps of the previous arc for me.

Also, the ED is ... kinda interesting. Hmm....

You will see that at the end it was a teacher with bamboo stick from the cram school. Their surname is the same.

Darthtabby

2017-02-04, 02:53

I like the basic concept for this arc and its heroine, I do not like the execution so far. My suspension of disbelief was strained by the strangeness of some of the games. To me this arc doesn't have the same degree of believability as the first arc or most of the arcs in Amagami.

The gaming addiction and sweet tooth help make Main Character-kun seem a bit less generic this time around, though its strange for him to be a gaming addict in this arc when I don't remember him playing games at all in the first. I kind of like the idea of the MC in an omnibus series like this being slightly different in each heroine's arc but I feel like he should be more consistent than this.

Incest Emblem

2017-02-04, 04:51

My suspension of disbelief was strained by the strangeness of some of the games.
MiliBun appears to be a Monster Hunter clone with furry characters. It even has what appears to be an ad hoc party. GusGal is modeled after the arcade Gundam games, for example this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam:_Federation_vs._Zeon. The deer raising game is the only one that does not have an obvious real world counterpart.

though its strange for him to be a gaming addict in this arc when I don't remember him playing games at all in the first.
This is a series that throws out many little details about the characters to flesh them out and show that they have their own life outside of the focus of the current arc. You will need to keep these details (https://postimg.org/image/5wtsh40u1/) in mind better.

blakstealth

2017-02-04, 09:21

It looks like Shoichi is a more natural character when video games are involved. That's good, I guess. It makes for a more enjoyable watch.

And man, Toru is awesome. She's so fuckin bad and boujee. And that ED fits her well, too. Can't wait for the next episode!

Darthtabby

2017-02-04, 17:07

MiliBun appears to be a Monster Hunter clone with furry characters. It even has what appears to be an ad hoc party. GusGal is modeled after the arcade Gundam games, for example this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam:_Federation_vs._Zeon. The deer raising game is the only one that does not have an obvious real world counterpart.

The deer raising game seemed kind of odd, but it was MiliBun that seemed really strange to me. I got GusGal being a Gundam parody. In the case of GusGal my problem may have been that there were a lot of "in game" shots and a lot of them didn't seem like they were in game.

At any rate, there was something about this episode that strained my suspension of disbelief. For whatever reason it didn't really feel like it took place in the same world as the first arc or most of the Amagami arcs.

This is a series that throws out many little details about the characters to flesh them out and show that they have their own life outside of the focus of the current arc. You will need to keep these details (https://postimg.org/image/5wtsh40u1/) in mind better.

Good catch. Do you remember if he did any handheld games in the previous arc too?

Wandering Soul

2017-02-04, 19:05

Miyame's arc is already off to a better start than the previous one. It helps that Shouichi seems more likable here.

AC-Phoenix

2017-02-06, 18:51

Oh please tell me they are not giving her the kind of background the cut makes it seem :rolleyes:

HandofFate

2017-02-07, 01:06

The deer raising game seemed kind of odd, but it was MiliBun that seemed really strange to me. I got GusGal being a Gundam parody. In the case of GusGal my problem may have been that there were a lot of "in game" shots and a lot of them didn't seem like they were in game.

At any rate, there was something about this episode that strained my suspension of disbelief. For whatever reason it didn't really feel like it took place in the same world as the first arc or most of the Amagami arcs.

Agreed.
Despite him being shown as coming out an arcade which doesn't really signify any big gamer thing.

Its kind of weird how his personality is different and his reputation changed from the first arc. So like does he not know the girl from the first arc at all in this one or what?

Also, is this bunny girl character in the game not wearing any pants

Arya

2017-02-07, 04:12

Despite the kinda new personality of the mc, I couldn't get into the story. It's this game thing I can't relate with. Probably because I never played with handheld consoles. also the games themselves felt, odd? Also, arcades are not a bit vintage these days?
Don't know, probably in this case it's strictly a personal matter, but the first arc started in a more natural way.

Anyhow, changing the MC personality do seems a bit odd as a narrative choice. Even if understandable for the case in place :heh:

Blueknight78

2017-02-07, 09:53

About "mc changing personality" i can think 3 things:
1 - game mechanics - like many date simulators game the mc must be a "little different or do different things in order to conquest different girls, like to conquest a gamer girl mc must focus on games and riser gamer skill, to conquest a bookworm girl he must focus on reading books and things like that leading to a different personality.

2 - represent different type of males - the change is to make different type of males players feel better inserted in game and instead of having different mcs for each girl, they just use the same guy but as if him is actually different characters and not the same in personality wise.

3 - bad reception - the "coward perv" mc personality in first arc could have generated too much negative reactions then they decided make the mc more different this time due to that negative reception.

well could be others things but that are the most ones i can see, and to be fair i prefer on that way of mc being different personality for each girl, because this means which each girl is really "different" and have different tastes of romance and not just like all the generic girls will fall exactly for the same guy despising the girls itself having different personalities and this could means which they could like different type of persons as lovers and not the same generic guy, on that way is much more "realistic" at last for me, because is really weird when every girl aways like the "same generic guy" for misterous reasons.

HandofFate

2017-02-07, 10:36

Arya

2017-02-07, 17:55

games felt a bit weird, it was like an awkward mix of trying to portray real games, but adding that parody fakeness, but too far.

arcades are still very alive in japan and pretty much everywhere

Ah, so it has to be the other option, it's me who has become vintage :D

Sakuratsuki

2017-02-09, 13:04

IceHism

2017-02-09, 13:10

Just finished ep 6 of Seiren. I wonder how they going to manage to fit the other girls into the remaining episodes. Next episode it's still Tooru route.

Funny how they keep Tsuniki into the story line despite not being her route. Well Sakura, Ayane is not a minor seiyuu afterall. :heh:

There are three girls with only 4 episodes for each.

Yea, all the other heroines appear even though it's not their route. Just part of the amagami formula

Sakuratsuki

2017-02-09, 13:18

There are three girls with only 4 episodes for each.

Yea, all the other heroines appear even though it's not their route. Just part of the amagami formula

Ahh oke, I tought it was 6 girls because of the OP. Wasn't well informed about that. :heh: Thansk for the info.

AB079

2017-02-09, 22:56

Definelly Tooru's arc is much better than the previous one, it feels more natural and soft than all the forced situations we saw before.

Also she's the best bro in games.

Hakai

2017-02-10, 00:37

That mating scene was hilariously cute :heh:

Stark700

2017-02-10, 09:37

Tooru's really fun to watch in this show. There's no doubt that the MC and her are growing close so Kamita will become even more self aware soon.

Hope this arc will have a good ending.

Ultragunner

2017-02-10, 11:22

ehhhhhh, in the later half didn't they just play in the arcade on the weekend, or at least afterschool hours? Why was the public moral committee being so grumpy about that? :heh:
I know it was said that they were close the the exam time, but you can't ban or prosecute students in the freetime outside of school like that? :heh:

P.S: did anyone notice the Junichi x Haruka reference there? :p

MeoTwister5

2017-02-11, 08:00

I'm not that surprised actually. I've seen female Tekken players in the arcade before and goddamn I swear they are a LOT more competitive than the men I've seen play.

I also suck complete donkeyballs at fighting games.

blakstealth

2017-02-11, 08:29

Episode 6 felt really weird to me. I dunno if it was the narrative or whatever, but it wasn't my favorite. The obvious scenes with QUALITY didn't help either.

So Tsuneki has some GusGal experience herself. I didn't think Miyamae would exploit bugs to win, though. And what the heck is with Makoto and milk tubs? god help her soul lmao

Dop

2017-02-11, 09:29

That whole 'mating' scene was hilarious, loved the double entendre there. well done show.

Kanon

2017-02-11, 10:17

P.S: did anyone notice the Junichi x Haruka reference there? :p

Yup, but probably because I read your post before watching the episode. Made me realize Shouichi hasn't displayed any weird fetishes yet.

blakstealth

2017-02-11, 10:20

P.S: did anyone notice the Junichi x Haruka reference there? :poh god, the pump shed, right? hahahahhahaha

~Yami~

2017-02-11, 10:52

aww... just right after they ended Tsuneki's arc, they introduced her again in this arc as rotten girl :heh: well probably I said too much but I don't really like her in this arc

Miyamae got a great personality but to be honest, her arc is little bit boring because it is kinda monotone
I'm expecting a twist in next episode

That mating scene though... I'll be lying if I said that I don't think of something else during that scene :heh:

Chosen_Hero

2017-02-11, 13:38

I can't be the only one who is a big fan of the girl with the milk photo fetish... right?:heh:

blakstealth

2017-02-11, 14:35

I can't be the only one who is a big fan of the girl with the milk photo fetish... right?:heh:Naw, I really like her too. She seems like a real fun watch. Can't wait for her arc!

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2017-02-11, 15:04

I can't be the only one who is a big fan of the girl with the milk photo fetish... right?:heh:

Makoto Kamizaki, younger sister of Risa Kamizaki, stalker of Junichi, lol.

Incest Emblem

2017-02-12, 02:02

I can't be the only one who is a big fan of the girl with the milk photo fetish... right?:heh:
I am more interested in the disciplinary committee chair (Ruise Sanjo), actually. The milk fetish girl reminds me a bit too much of Sae.

The way this arc handles its video games is a bit too off for my suspension of disbelief. I get that, unlike Akiba Strip, Seiren is not an explicitly otaku centric title, so it would not delve into geekdom as closely as Akiba Strip. In particular, it does not want to portray games that are too close to real franchises. But it is still rather jarring to see such a far departure from real life behavior, as if the writers and animators have very loose knowledge of the competitive arcade gaming culture.

Here we have a girl who is allegedly extremely competitive at an arcade PVP game. She goes there every day--after school and on weekends--to play. And she even goes as far as to skip school to play the same game at home. Yet she does not even have a fightstick at home? While certainly many players have demonstrated the ability to compete at top levels with a gamepad, those are players who play on gamepads regularly and who bring their own gamepads to tournaments. They do not practice at home with gamepads, then go to tournaments to play on arcade sticks. Yet here we are, the infamous competitive gamer girl at the arcades, playing at home with a gamepad. Shameful.

So Tsuneki has some GusGal experience herself. I didn't think Miyamae would exploit bugs to win, though.
All competitive gaming features "if it's in the game, then it's a feature, not a bug" to some degree, with severity depending on the specific community. The most notorious is the western fighting game community, which often criticizes developers for patching gameplay bugs quickly under some bizarre "deal with it" theory.

My impression is that it's not just Hikari has some experience with GusGal. More specifically, Tooru and Hikari used to be in the same gaming group, and they had a falling out because Tooru became too obsessed in some way. That is why Tooru uses Hikari's given name rather than family name.

Gilly

2017-02-12, 05:23

I wasn't a fan of Tsuneki's arc, but at least she had a personality unlike senpai.

Hakai

2017-02-12, 05:55

I wasn't a fan of Tsuneki's arc, but at least she had a personality unlike senpai.

Senpai has boobs

But seriously, I'll never understand why quieter/less energetic characters always gets this 'no personality' shit

Gilly

2017-02-12, 06:40

I don't know what to say about her other than "she likes playing video games".

Benigmatica

2017-02-12, 20:11

Episodes 1 to 4:
I know it's late but I feel that Hikari Tsuneki might be okay, but the ending of her story arc needs a lot to be desired. I mean, she and Shouichi Kamita spend their time together at a study camp and they haven't become a couple after Hikari left Japan to study abroad. What a shame...

And speaking of Tooru Miyamae's arc, I'll have my final thoughts about it once it's done.

Incest Emblem

2017-02-12, 23:19

I don't know what to say about her other than "she likes playing video games".
There is quite a difference between liking video games and being obsessed with them. Actually, her video game addiction seems to be just one quirk that is related to her lack of general impulse control. There are other manifestations of this flaw. Recall when she hogged the microphone for quite a while during their karaoke session, or when she directly asks Shouichi for a bit of his food because she wants what other people want.

The other oddity about her is that she seems to be lacking in normal social cues, as can be seen when: She pushes herself next to Shouichi to take her seat, then unbuttons her shirt next to three boys; she has no problem letting what appears to be a grown man (the cram school teacher and her brother, most likely) into the bathroom when she is taking a bath; her not seeing any impropriety in her sharing food with Shouichi; or her going all out against two much younger boys. None of these are bad per se, but her nonchalance about all of them suggests someone who is a bit socially stunted.

grecefar

2017-02-14, 22:06

Seeing tsuneki in this chapter... I'm still bitter for her ending.

FlareKnight

2017-02-16, 02:15

Well we are only half way through Miyamae's arc. But at the same time I can't say it's been thrilling either. I suppose it is somewhat interesting how Miyamae utterly throws herself into whatever she is doing. Though I can understand in some games getting sucked into them until you reached some point where the interest in that game fades. But can see why she has often been playing by herself. Gets so into them that for group games it either forces the others to go crazy in order to match her pace or get frustrated so they stop playing with her entirely.

Certainly a thing she probably just doesn't realize or notice herself. Thus why she could talk down to Tsuneki about fighting with a kid or utterly ignoring some of the comments she gets while playing games. When playing she has utter tunnel vision and it is only when she comes out of it that she can get back to normal. She's certainly ok before and after something, but in the heat of the moment she's just in another place entirely.

I suppose the most interesting thing is that the school's disciplinary committee has the authority to harass students going to an arcade on the weekend. And potentially that the Morishima Haruka arc is the one that happened for Amagami during this arc?

We'll see how the back half of this arc goes.

sparhawk1610

2017-02-17, 10:59

A nice episode. I like the story so far. I hope that we can get a proper happy ending this time.

Stark700

2017-02-17, 11:08

I honestly like this new arc more than expected. Tooru and Kamita has decent character chemistry and I'm really starting to like Tooru's personality now that we get to know her more. Latest episode felt like a date of sorts when the two were having fun playing games.

grecefar

2017-02-17, 12:28

Looking good, looking good!. Come on ending, don't disappoint me this time.

kk2extreme

2017-02-18, 11:49

Please don't turn this into "how to get friendzoned by girls":uhoh:

blakstealth

2017-02-18, 13:06

That rabbit Miyamae made was the best thing about this episode. I loved how it had its own expressions and reactions to everything alongside MC.

Darthtabby

2017-02-18, 18:33

I have some issues with the current heroine's arc as a whole, but I really liked Episode 7. Unfortunately it looks like some of the weirdness that I found off putting about other episodes in this arc is set to make a return next episode.

Dextro

2017-02-18, 20:59

Please don't turn this into "how to get friendzoned by girls":uhoh:

This is getting dangerously close to the first arc, that one also had the main duo get closer and lovey dovey and then brought everything crashing down. Hopefully I'm wrong though, it wouldn't feel very rewarding if every arc ended cheating the audience of the happy ending.

IceHism

2017-02-18, 21:23

omg they are going on an arranged date. yay

Anh_Minh

2017-02-19, 01:44

~Yami~

2017-02-19, 01:47

Tsuneki being the best girl when it isn't her arc anymore... what the :sad:

more blushing Miyamae senpai is always welcomed

Guardian Enzo

2017-02-19, 02:23

I'm not big on how they presented her competitiveness as a flaw. Especially since the big issue was that she won against boys. What was she supposed to do, pretend to be weak to assuage their male pride?

I think that was the whole point. We were shown her world perceiving it as a flaw, but I don't think the series POV was that it was a flaw. I think they were making a point.

MgMaster

2017-02-19, 16:21

Yet again this show immediately diffuses any potential drama or tension before we can even indulge in it at least a little bit. It's all just...so tame, and not just that but there's barely any romance here.

As it looks, Tsuneki arc still had more potential due to her being the most interesting character in Seiren ~ I mean, she's still fairly good as a side character in this arc. Sadly, that potential wasn't met and it seems to be a thing with this show whenever something gets a tiny bit spicy. It barely scratches the surface of some issues before they get immediately resolved, same with Hikari's friend that ratted her out, same with Toru's issues. Hikari calls her,tells her she has a better gaming partner nearby,Toru think's it over for a brief moment and that's it.

No1's asking or expecting anything too dramatic here, but come on, at least have some romantic tension ~ wait, nvm, can't have romantic tension if there's barely any romance. Feelsbadman.

Anh_Minh

2017-02-19, 17:08

I think that was the whole point. We were shown her world perceiving it as a flaw, but I don't think the series POV was that it was a flaw. I think they were making a point.

I don't know. It definitely looks like some kind of consensus that it's a flaw, and nobody gets called out on it. The MC (and his friends, I guess) just looks extra-nice for not caring that she's better at video games than he is, instead of passing some kind of minimum requirement for human decency. And even then, it makes him look like a doormat, instead of someone secure enough in his masculinity and hobby to accept that some people, even some females, are better at games than he is.

Guardian Enzo

2017-02-19, 17:10

That's a complete 180 degree opposite read on the situation from mine, but I guess that's why they call it interpretation.

IceHism

2017-02-19, 17:51

I don't know. It definitely looks like some kind of consensus that it's a flaw, and nobody gets called out on it. The MC (and his friends, I guess) just looks extra-nice for not caring that she's better at video games than he is, instead of passing some kind of minimum requirement for human decency. And even then, it makes him look like a doormat, instead of someone secure enough in his masculinity and hobby to accept that some people, even some females, are better at games than he is.

I read it more like "you'll have problems if you can't connect with her on her competitiveness" since a lot of the people she interacted with before just didn't have that in common nor really got it. Sometimes, people won't like you for whatever and that's life.

Julio C

2017-02-20, 00:08

Great arc so far, but I still yet don't feel the romance between the twos.

MgMaster

2017-02-20, 00:27

I read it more like "you'll have problems if you can't connect with her on her competitiveness" since a lot of the people she interacted with before just didn't have that in common nor really got it. Sometimes, people won't like you for whatever and that's life.

She'd probably be a great gf for a pro-gamer, or even better, a streamer as depending on the game, the good pro gamers can't afford to spend much time on gfs + living in a gaming house & all if it's a team game :heh: Though she'd be understanding enough.

Darthtabby

2017-02-23, 00:01

scififan

2017-02-23, 01:26

This show got me to start rewatching Amagami SS. Why is it that I had such major believability issues with the first two episodes of the current arc of Seiren when Amagami had stuff like that ramen bowl hallucination? :heh: (To be fair I remember having significant issues with parts of Amagami's second season.)

So, you don't have any issue about belly kissing and knee kissing. :) In the interview, the writer said that he want to invoke a niche saying in Japan, "Waiter! your finger is dipping in my noodle soup!"

Actually, each girl has a weird scene in that haunted house. The anime filtered out a lot of story. While talking about it, I remembered Ai's story was partly written by the writer of Seiren. Maybe the writer need his colleague to provide him a constructive feedback. It may make his story more appealing.

Flower

2017-02-23, 01:32

Ep 07

Finally caught up with this episode, and gotta say I still really like the chemistry between the two leads quite a bit, and still feel they are inching towards something more in a believable way.

I only hope they pull off the final ep effectively....

Incest Emblem

2017-02-23, 01:59

I am actually hoping that Tooru friendzones Shouichi--just stay as good friends and gaming buddies, possibly starting a doujin group, instead of dating.

Granted, this is more for consistency and to see the viewer reactions...

Marina2

2017-02-23, 13:09

Heh....

Seiren is saved.

http://i.imgur.com/jqC9EeK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/myjv9zs.jpg

Darthtabby

2017-02-23, 15:05

So, you don't have any issue about belly kissing and knee kissing. :) In the interview, the writer said that he want to invoke a niche saying in Japan, "Waiter! your finger is dipping in my noodle soup!"

Not really no. I can more or less chalk those up to teens messing around.

Even the weird haunted house hallucination doesn't bug me as much as some of the strange stuff in this arc. The third episode was pretty good but the first two really strained my suspension of disbelief. Will have to see what I think of this week's episode once I've had a chance to see it but the preview does not make me hopeful.

sparhawk1610

2017-02-23, 17:41

Heh....

Seiren is saved.

http://i.imgur.com/jqC9EeK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/myjv9zs.jpg

I can finally sleep calmly :heh:

Incest Emblem

2017-02-24, 03:34

Since the next arc is the childhood friend arc...

How often do we get a childhood friend who is younger (or older) by enough years to be in a different grade than the main character? Here, Kyouko appears to be a year younger and is in her first year, while Shouichi is in his second year. The only example that comes to my mind is Love Hina, featuring

Narusegawa, who is a year or two younger than Keitaro and Mutsumi, who is a year or two older.

grecefar

2017-02-24, 08:44

I can finally sleep calmly :heh:

thank god...

AB079

2017-02-24, 10:34

This is the arc that saved Seiren without question, the only problem for me was the ending... a bus driver? seriously?

sparhawk1610

2017-02-24, 10:48

This is the arc that saved Seiren without question, the only problem for me was the ending... a bus driver? seriously?

At least they are married and have a kid. ( I feel the same about his job :heh: )

Incest Emblem

2017-02-24, 12:20

It could have been worse. He could have been a wildlife preserve worker.

IceHism

2017-02-24, 14:27

What a weird job. I don't understand why anyone want want to be that in this day and age.

Good thing they showed the 10 years later though.

Stark700

2017-02-25, 01:36

The second arc of this show definitely impressed me more than the first one especially the conclusion. I also like Tooru a lot (hoping to see more of her in cameo appearances in the final arc).

Ending was much better than the previous one imo although Kamita's job didn't impress me. Oh that neck kiss from this week's episode had my eyes rolling though lol

Dop

2017-02-25, 08:07

Now that was an excellent story arc, and rounded off quite nicely by the postscript. Really well done.

blakstealth

2017-02-25, 09:44

Not a bad finale. Glad they got together. And Shoichi being a bus driver is hilarious. I hope it's just a side job he does. At least with Miyamae's job, it was kind of hinted at when she mentioned that she was happy about the kid liking her custom strap. So working with kids makes sense.

Marina2

2017-02-25, 10:47

Can we have route for Tomoe and Shiori as BD/DVD extra? I quite like them now.

http://i.imgur.com/Q6AN48X.jpg?1

Hakai

2017-02-25, 11:58

Ending was satisfying.

Those two are so adorable together.
I like their chemistry much better compared to the previous arc.

HandofFate

2017-02-25, 12:11

so is this bunny character not wearing pants, and only has some fur covering her genitals?
http://i4.dealtwith.it/i/n/bf6832ece421244a534ef9844bf9ce4f/[HorribleSubs]%20Seiren%20-%2008%20[720p].mkv_snapshot_03.25_[2017.02.25_12.11.48].jpg

Dextro

2017-02-25, 14:40

Well despite the fact that Moe-ne was best girl this was a great conclusion to the arc. Heck, they even made Tsuneki look better in retrospect. :heh:

Julio C

2017-02-25, 14:45

Good ending, but this whole finale episode of this arc felt rushed and I just didn't feel the romance between the two. It just didn't work for me as it did in Amagami since they usually built that romance as early as the second episode. Here is was like in the last ten minutes when they decided to be together right at the moment. That's just not how it works. I hope the last arc does a better job at that.