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rladls2121
2017-06-14, 17:55
Too bad for Akira, Blue Angel's identity is already found out.
On top of that, his sister is being used by Hanoi, and the stress already got to him when Go Onizuka lost against Playmaker in a duel that SOL Technology set up.
Still, he actually did commented on the media whether or not Blue Angel is going to duel Playmaker next.
Wandering Soul
2017-06-14, 17:58
My problem is that Yuusaku literally went to VRAINS in the middle of school. That is stupid and reckless and he's going to be discovered by somebody once this duel is over.
Watch that scene again. He went to the empty duel club room and then went into the VRAINS.
The personality change is more Aoi. When you first meet Aoi she's pretty much a dead fish personality wise doesn't care much about anything and anybody besides of course her brother. Even asking about the deck she doesn't show much emotion.
After she meets the KOH person she goes up to Yuusaku and asks directly about why he joined. the Aoi from the early part of the episode wouldn't do that. You could make the case that it's because she's the type who only acts on her interests but that's it.
As for Blue Angel that persona doesn't need to change for the purposes of the KOH mission
That doesn't mean she won't interact or talk with other people? You can see she has decent relationship with other duel club members and the fact that she is Blue Angel - the idol, even if that is just a mask in VRAINS, shows that she actually doesn't have any problem with people.
Greeting with someone (Yusaku) in the morning and ask about why he joined her club is very normal thing if you run into people you know even just for briefly
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-14, 18:57
Watch that scene again. He went to the empty duel club room and then went into the VRAINS.
You see the classroom but you see the sphere outside. In any event he needs to be carefl.
That doesn't mean she won't interact or talk with other people? You can see she has decent relationship with other duel club members and the fact that she is Blue Angel - the idol, even if that is just a mask in VRAINS, shows that she actually doesn't have any problem with people.
Greeting with someone (Yusaku) in the morning and ask about why he joined her club is very normal thing if you run into people you know even just for briefly
Are you joking. The only person you see is Shima and there's a clear annoyance with the group. She tolerates the group if nothing else.
She tolerates the people on VRAINS because at the very least she likes being known as Blue Angel because people adore her for being her.
As for the greeting i'll give you that but it's also clear the KOH made her more aggressive then before.
In the end my problem is the episode if nothing else is sloppy for multiple reasons
Are you joking. The only person you see is Shima and there's a clear annoyance with the group. She tolerates the group if nothing else.
She tolerates the people on VRAINS because at the very least she likes being known as Blue Angel because people adore her for being her.
As for the greeting i'll give you that but it's also clear the KOH made her more aggressive then before.
In the end my problem is the episode if nothing else is sloppy for multiple reasons
There is nothing clear that KoH did something to her personality....she acts the same for enitre ep.
First off, Aoi is not a person who (1)"Can't talk with people because she's afraid to do" but she is a person who (2)"Don't like to talk with people unless there is a reason to do"
(1) People who "Can't talk or interact with people because they are afraid to do" is a person who have problem in comunicating with other people so they normally aviod talking or interacting with other people. This kind of people don't usually start the conversation with someone. Even if they manage to talk with someone, they will talk in nervous or shy manner or spending time being "good listener" for most of a conversation.
(2) People who "Don't like to talk or interact with people unless there is a reason to do" is a person who doesn't have any problem in comunicate with other people but they choose to not do it because their own reasons. When someone maange starts a conversation with them or when they dicide to talk with someone, they can talk and interect with that person like how normal people do.
Before Ep.6, Aoi character's description makes her seems to be the (1) type, but after I watched ep.6 I can say that Aoi is more like (2) type.
(I'm not sure if you watch Hibike! Euphonium or not but Aoi personality is more similar to "Reina" than "Mizore" from that show)
When I said Aoi has decent relationship with other club members, I meant she can talk to them normally and she can blend in with that group (even through she doesn't like them). Aoi doesn't sit alone in the room cornor and aviod everyone.
How she greet and talk with Yusaku is just something that a person with (2) personality can do normally. She already have some doubt on [Yusaku = Playmaker] after all. There is nothing change about her. KoH only did something to her duel disk A.I. (like how Ignis noticed) which will probably affect her only in Link Vrains after she draws that card.
KoH also have no reason to change Aoi personality really. Unless you are telling me that KoH knows Playmaker goes the same school as Blue Angel and they know each other in real life for any interaction to happen.
Blueknight78
2017-06-14, 21:16
KoH also have no reason to change Aoi personality really. Unless you are telling me that KoH knows Playmaker goes the same school as Blue Angel and they know each other in real life for any interaction to happen.
well the fact which they saw which she is after him and based on the fact which the previous popular also was after him and was able to duel him, could be a good reason to try to "brainwash" her to make a sort of trap to get him or use her to defeat him, they clear did something by giving that card, at last her AI_Partner suffered a "change" maybe it can also affect her later in the battle in the virtual world all we need is wait and see.
Watch that scene again. He went to the empty duel club room and then went into the VRAINS.
But still foolhardy though i also dislike the lazyeffort of Yusaku undercover.
There is no any indication he was trying to hide his identity, a real smart guy would notice immediately that Yusaku is Playmaker from only see his duel disk. Heck, looking from his face already obvious.
At least he should change that duel disk to something else or not bring at all.
magnumcyclonex
2017-06-14, 23:23
I'm really liking Ignis. He's a way better/comedic companion than Astral, or Yubel ever were. This is a new MC-partner dynamic we've not seen in a YGO series for a long time (last time I remember something this funny was Marik and Bakura aboard the Battle City Airship.
As for the lack of duels, I really hope they keep it this way, to separate this series from all the others. I want a more story and character based series, rather than a plethora of duels which end up being advertisements for new sets.
The only thing I am not thrilled about are how terrible looking some of the side characters look. Couldn't they just use normal looking people?
Fairy Water
2017-06-15, 01:40
But still foolhardy though i also dislike the lazyeffort of Yusaku undercover.
There is no any indication he was trying to hide his identity, a real smart guy would notice immediately that Yusaku is Playmaker from only see his duel disk. Heck, looking from his face already obvious.
At least he should change that duel disk to something else or not bring at all.
He should have gone to the toilet and lock a room and do the transformation there :heh:
The duel disk is just a duel disk and there are various number of them with the same look. Aoi being smart girl by asking to see his deck if she spots any Link monsters in there, if he refused he would even get more suspicious.
I don't get the hate for this ep :uhoh: it's probably more interesting than the Go mini-introduction arc. The interaction between Ignis and Yusaku is so entertaining. I'm kinda like Aoi now that she is introduced and we come to understand more about her circumstance. Aoi seems like lack of love/care so she is happy as an VR Idol with everyone cheering for her. That's explain the change of personality when she is Blue Angel.
That moment after the talk with Oniisama, her eyes went full Yandere look is absolutely scary. :heh: Sister-in-law so that means her sister is married to Yaizen?
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-15, 04:42
But still foolhardy though i also dislike the lazyeffort of Yusaku undercover.
There is no any indication he was trying to hide his identity, a real smart guy would notice immediately that Yusaku is Playmaker from only see his duel disk. Heck, looking from his face already obvious.
At least he should change that duel disk to something else or not bring at all.
I agree with you on everything accept for the duel disk. He can get away with it because of the mystique of playmaker. I still find it hilarious that anybody actually expected him to use the real deck it's like... no.
I'm really liking Ignis. He's a way better/comedic companion than Astral, or Yubel ever were. This is a new MC-partner dynamic we've not seen in a YGO series for a long time (last time I remember something this funny was Marik and Bakura aboard the Battle City Airship.
As for the lack of duels, I really hope they keep it this way, to separate this series from all the others. I want a more story and character based series, rather than a plethora of duels which end up being advertisements for new sets.
The only thing I am not thrilled about are how terrible looking some of the side characters look. Couldn't they just use normal looking people?
The side characters are dumb i agree but the dynamic between them isn't necessarily new. You have the happy go lucky partner and the stoic one. The difference is that unlike with Astral and Yuuma the MC is actually the stoic one.
He should have gone to the toilet and lock a room and do the transformation there :heh:
The duel disk is just a duel disk and there are various number of them with the same look. Aoi being smart girl by asking to see his deck if she spots any Link monsters in there, if he refused he would even get more suspicious.
I don't get the hate for this ep :uhoh: it's probably more interesting than the Go mini-introduction arc. The interaction between Ignis and Yusaku is so entertaining. I'm kinda like Aoi now that she is introduced and we come to understand more about her circumstance. Aoi seems like lack of love/care so she is happy as an VR Idol with everyone cheering for her. That's explain the change of personality when she is Blue Angel.
That moment after the talk with Oniisama, her eyes went full Yandere look is absolutely scary. :heh: Sister-in-law so that means her sister is married to Yaizen?
Fairy let me ask you something. If you were Yuusaku why the hell would you show somebody your playmaker deck. That's stupidity of the highest order.
Saying it's more interesting then Go Onizuka isn't saying much so that's one thing. The interaction between the two is one of reluctance frankly and the hate for the episode is that it's extremely forced and not even the good kind.
I don't see yandere what i see is a notice me sempai vibe if anything else
Fairy Water
2017-06-15, 10:46
I don't see anything force here, both of them are introvert type so their interactions r just that much, how else u think it could be better? and Blue Angel is conveniently used to bait Playmaker by KOH, which is absolutely normal in strategy battle and especially after SOL already made a move, KOH side probably would try to do sth as well.
I don't understand your question about Yusaku's deck. We all could well expected he will prepare a dummy deck just in case or when he shows such confidence in letting others to see it, of course there would be no card would give away his identity. I was praising Aoi's observation skill as she immediately talk about his deck after his duel disk similarity is mention.
Well the yandere or not r up to people to interpret, she is definitely not in a normal state after that talk. She doesn't look upset nor sad, her wide-open unwavering eyes just remind me some yandere cases. And she got the notice from the brother in law already as he said he cares for her.
Blueknight78
2017-06-15, 11:06
The only thing I am not thrilled about are how terrible looking some of the side characters look. Couldn't they just use normal looking people?
yeah one with the "character design" specially go onizkua he was the "most lazy one" basically his avatar is "himself" his desire to be the "champion and hero and well knowed character make him looks like a weird aways walking on that cloths, even a cosplayer have limits to how much he keep "inside the character", he looks like a "forever chuuny", i really hated the fact which he don't have a "normal look".
about the mc he looks like the "superman glasses" character the only thing change on him is his hair and cloths, face is basically the same any smart or at last supposed smart or a little smart could notice how they look very like.
in the case of Blue Angel i liked her because she really look ok with her avatar looking totally different from herself and even looks like she like many shounen girls have a "breasts complex" since her real look have small breasts and her avatar have big "bounce breasts(something really new on yu-gi-oh see big and bouncing boobs)", looks like she have some complex toward it which later could be used as comedy, someone pointing that :heh::heh::heh: could be fun and flash for a yu-gi-oh serie.
in the case of Blue Angel i liked her because she really look ok with her avatar looking totally different from herself and even looks like she like many shounen girls have a "breasts complex" since her real look have small breasts and her avatar have big "bounce breasts(something really new on yu-gi-oh see big and bouncing boobs)", looks like she have some complex toward it which later could be used as comedy, someone pointing that :heh::heh::heh: could be fun and flash for a yu-gi-oh serie.
Yeah, I can understand her feeling. :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/cjNGbhx.jpg
Come to think of it, Aoi probably use a fake deck at Duel club too. I wonder what she use.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-15, 12:13
I don't see anything force here, both of them are introvert type so their interactions r just that much, how else u think it could be better? and Blue Angel is conveniently used to bait Playmaker by KOH, which is absolutely normal in strategy battle and especially after SOL already made a move, KOH side probably would try to do sth as well.
I don't understand your question about Yusaku's deck. We all could well expected he will prepare a dummy deck just in case or when he shows such confidence in letting others to see it, of course there would be no card would give away his identity. I was praising Aoi's observation skill as she immediately talk about his deck after his duel disk similarity is mention.
Well the yandere or not r up to people to interpret, she is definitely not in a normal state after that talk. She doesn't look upset nor sad, her wide-open unwavering eyes just remind me some yandere cases. And she got the notice from the brother in law already as he said he cares for her.
Blue Angel called out playmaker which did nothing but lure KOH to her. Plus he basically said he wasn't going to do anything and the only reason something happened is because Ignis set it up. That my dear is forced.
Any simpleton would think to ask for a deck but also know that there's no way somebody with a secret identity would be stupid enough to bring their real deck to a duel club. Aoi should know that since her identity is a secret also.
yeah one with the "character design" specially go onizkua he was the "most lazy one" basically his avatar is "himself" his desire to be the "champion and hero and well knowed character make him looks like a weird aways walking on that cloths, even a cosplayer have limits to how much he keep "inside the character", he looks like a "forever chuuny", i really hated the fact which he don't have a "normal look".
about the mc he looks like the "superman glasses" character the only thing change on him is his hair and cloths, face is basically the same any smart or at last supposed smart or a little smart could notice how they look very like.
in the case of Blue Angel i liked her because she really look ok with her avatar looking totally different from herself and even looks like she like many shounen girls have a "breasts complex" since her real look have small breasts and her avatar have big "bounce breasts(something really new on yu-gi-oh see big and bouncing boobs)", looks like she have some complex toward it which later could be used as comedy, someone pointing that :heh::heh::heh: could be fun and flash for a yu-gi-oh serie.
If you think that massive tits are new you clearly haven't been watching Yugioh for very long or at all. Mai Valentine Alexis Akiza all come to mind and they probably aren't the only ones
Blueknight78
2017-06-15, 12:22
Blue Angel called out playmaker which did nothing but lure KOH to her. Plus he basically said he wasn't going to do anything and the only reason something happened is because Ignis set it up. That my dear is forced.
Any simpleton would think to ask for a deck but also know that there's no way somebody with a secret identity would be stupid enough to bring their real deck to a duel club. Aoi should know that since her identity is a secret also.
If you think that massive tits are new you clearly haven't been watching Yugioh for very long or at all. Mai Valentine Alexis Akiza all come to mind and they probably aren't the only ones
that was why i said "bouncing" while others females could have medium to big, normally they not "animated them to bounce" like they did here, at last i don't recall they doing it before, heeheh that could be really fun if the anime make some jokes toward it.
i could be wrong but her tits looks really big in comparation with most of the others main girls tits( only one or 2 of then looked big like that while the others looked more like "average size).
little edit: looks like really gonna be yuusaku motto the 1 - do that . 2- because that and 3 - because that other, basically each episode he will be obligated to number his reason to being on that episode, that gonna be very painfull and peoples complained toward the "egal".
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-15, 12:44
that was why i said "bouncing" while others females could have medium to big, normally they not "animated them to bounce" like they did here, at last i don't recall they doing it before, heeheh that could be really fun if the anime make some jokes toward it.
i could be wrong but her tits looks really big in comparation with most of the others main girls tits( only one or 2 of then looked big like that while the others looked more like "average size).
little edit: looks like really gonna be yuusaku motto the 1 - do that . 2- because that and 3 - because that other, basically each episode he will be obligated to number his reason to being on that episode, that gonna be very painfull and peoples complained toward the "egal".
Yuusaku's shtick is gonna be an annoyance
There are some girls with massive jugs and they do emphasize it but comparing the AI to the actual is another matter which is kinda funny
rladls2121
2017-06-15, 15:51
Naoki, he just makes everyone sad.
Like how he praised Akira already made Aoi sad.
Saying how Yusaku's "deck" is weak, actually i think that made us sad instead of or more than Yusaku himself.
To think he is actually more stupid than he looks, i actually expected more from him.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-15, 16:03
Naoki, he just makes everyone sad.
Like how he praised Akira already made Aoi sad.
Saying how Yusaku's "deck" is weak, actually i think that made us sad instead of or more than Yusaku himself.
To think he is actually more stupid than he looks, i actually expected more from him.
Yusaku showed a crappy deck on purpose because of the fact that he wanted to dissuade people from thinking he's Playmaker.
Aoi's more annoyed then sad
Yusaku doesn't give a shit about anything outside of the KOH and getting his memories back
Blueknight78
2017-06-15, 16:26
Yusaku showed a crappy deck on purpose because of the fact that he wanted to dissuade people from thinking he's Playmaker.
Aoi's more annoyed then sad
Yusaku doesn't give a shit about anything outside of the KOH and getting his memories back
yeah his priority are:
1 - recover his memory back
2 - help his friend little brother
3 - find a way to keep numbering 3 reasons for he use this speech on each episode because you know... do that is cool :heh::heh::heh::heh:
rladls2121
2017-06-15, 16:47
yeah his priority are:
1 - recover his memory back
2 - help his friend little brother
3 - find a way to keep numbering 3 reasons for he use this speech on each episode because you know... do that is cool :heh::heh::heh::heh:So you are going to use this 3 reasons speech on each episode too?:heh:
Im fine with this episode.
Really Naoki, i wonder if he is one of those people who has no interests in cards from around Original and GX era?
And maybe he'll also look down in cards like Tuning Magician too.
ukulelembo
2017-06-15, 20:43
that was why i said "bouncing" while others females could have medium to big, normally they not "animated them to bounce" like they did here, at last i don't recall they doing it before
Then you probably missed all Kuwahara's stuff. :D
http://i.imgur.com/4ozUyvG.gif
https://i.imgur.com/vZvCzIO.gif
https://i.imgur.com/6BW8720.gif
Fairy Water
2017-06-15, 22:21
Blue Angel called out playmaker which did nothing but lure KOH to her. Plus he basically said he wasn't going to do anything and the only reason something happened is because Ignis set it up. That my dear is forced.
If Ignis didn't set him up, he would still tell him later on. Knowing Yusaku he definitely do sth anyway but that sounds even more troublesome. I find it more interesting this way that Ignis isn't just stay still as Yusaku's 'servant' but being a independent beings with network-control power that could makes one's life a disaster.
Any simpleton would think to ask for a deck but also know that there's no way somebody with a secret identity would be stupid enough to bring their real deck to a duel club. Aoi should know that since her identity is a secret also.
It's really a matter of luck for her in case Yusaku brings the dummy deck or not. It's worth try to ask anyway. Even the club president said it's rude but Aoi isn't backing down.
Btw the most simpleton is his classmate who is Playmaker's fan but has never asked to see his deck. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I can understand her feeling. :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/cjNGbhx.jpg
Come to think of it, Aoi probably use a fake deck at Duel club too. I wonder what she use.
I forgot to talk about the boobs :heh:
How come the two lolis r even bigger than Aoi...
Hmm from Akira's way of saying, did he hide the existence of Aoi from his superiors? Or did he alter their actual relationship using his position.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-16, 05:43
Hmm from Akira's way of saying, did he hide the existence of Aoi from his superiors? Or did he alter their actual relationship using his position.
Neither. SOL technologies is almost certainly aware of the fact she's Blue Angel considering the influence on Link VRAINS that they seem to have. He wants to hide her identity because he was worried that if the KOH learned about her real idenity and connection to him that they would manipulate her and use her as a weapon to get what they want (ironically enough like they're doing right now) :heh::heh::heh:.
Well, aside how dumb some execution so far i have to say i likes Yusaku personality so far.
Unlike Yusei, Yusaku has a flaw, despite how him portrayed being calm duelist he also a narrow-minded serious bufoon.
TWICE. He has fallen to Ignis scheme TWICE and that's because his ignorant to listened Ignis.
At this rate if Yusaku not going to fix his manner to pay his attention to Ignis this going be running gag of him and Ignis dynamic relationship:heh::heh:
Well it seems like "painfully serious" is what they're going for with Yusaku. Being easily tricked kinda comes with the territory.
^ Yeah, it is a lazy judgment when people said Yusaku is Yusei 2.0. They are not alike at all except being stoic and calm but the rest are different, i suppose we could say Yusaku is Yusei brat version.
(Not recommend to read before watching tomorrow episode (ep.7))
Episode 8: 風を操りし者 – Kaze o Ayatsurishi Mono
(The One Who Commands the Wind)
Due to Hanoi's program, Zaizen Aoi is now in a comatose state. Feeling responsible for this, Yusaku tries to investigate the cause of this. However, Blue Angel then appears on the city's monitors, and challenges Playmaker to a rematch!
http://i.imgur.com/7IqDUgB.jpg
BPD Renegade
2017-06-20, 17:37
Watched the last episode, and it seems like so far, three out of our four main cast (judging by the OP) don't have real families, since Aoi is an in-law or adopted or whatever the real translation is, and Go is from an orphanage. It makes me wonder if the comatose man we saw earlier is really Revolver's father or just some KoH guy who took him in, since Revolver's all but confirmed to be one of the six rescued children.
It also begs the question of whether the others are also missing parts of their memories, and whether there are other effects from this, like how each of the three main characters so far seem to have faults/obsessions.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-20, 21:40
^ Yeah, it is a lazy judgment when people said Yusaku is Yusei 2.0. They are not alike at all except being stoic and calm but the rest are different, i suppose we could say Yusaku is Yusei brat version.
He's actually very similar to Yusei at the beginning of the series. Both are driven by specific goals that drive them to do what they have to do. Yusei is far smarter then Yusaku at the same time frame. He's more like Yusei .75
(Not recommend to read before watching tomorrow episode (ep.7))
Episode 8: 風を操りし者 – Kaze o Ayatsurishi Mono
(The One Who Commands the Wind)
Due to Hanoi's program, Zaizen Aoi is now in a comatose state. Feeling responsible for this, Yusaku tries to investigate the cause of this. However, Blue Angel then appears on the city's monitors, and challenges Playmaker to a rematch!
http://i.imgur.com/7IqDUgB.jpg
I wouldn't post these anymore Marina
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-06-21, 10:31
Episode is out. A very intense duel, I like it. Still, did Vrains seriously just Asuna'd Blue Angel? :twitch: When will she wake up?
Wow, the KoH do not play, at all. One card from them can sent people into a freakin' coma :uhoh:. That's like.....only few steps below evil Millenium-Item users who will murder people right down to their souls for shit and giggles.
Ep.7
Most enjoyable duel so far and good Trickstar promotion. :P Too bad the field Spell card has no effect on surrounding environment. Good to see that Aoi/Blue Angel chose to avoid using that card until the very last second where she didn't have any other choice (and the card forced her to use it BTW)
Aoi probably not 'sleep' so long (maybe 2-3 eps). The way I see it, VRAINS wants to use Aoi as the person who Yusaku/Playmaker will open up to which will develop his character into more caring and less stoic person. I don't see any other characters who can do this job at this point, really.
The last shot of ep. seems to be the reference of the artwork on Trickstar Reincarnation.
http://i.imgur.com/E29Q8FT.png?1
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-21, 12:35
If this is just episode 7 it's pretty damn clear this is going to be the darkest Yugioh i've seen since the original (admittedly i didn't see arc-V so somebody can clarify). That being said as far as great duels go not so much.
Way i figure they're pushing Aoi and Yusaku closer because the idea is that SOL technlogy and the kids from the picture will be a part of that. Still things are about to get very interesting to be sure
Wandering Soul
2017-06-21, 14:40
Ep.7
Most enjoyable duel so far and good Trickstar promotion. :P Too bad the field Spell card has no effect on surrounding environment. Good to see that Aoi/Blue Angel chose to avoid using that card until the very last second where she didn't have any other choice (and the card forced her to use it BTW)
Yeah, I also like how Aoi had enough sense to be cautious of the card that Hanoi gave her and also had enough faith in her deck to try to duel without that card. She only really used it when she had no choice.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-21, 18:41
Ep.7
Most enjoyable duel so far and good Trickstar promotion. :P Too bad the field Spell card has no effect on surrounding environment. Good to see that Aoi/Blue Angel chose to avoid using that card until the very last second where she didn't have any other choice (and the card forced her to use it BTW)
Aoi probably not 'sleep' so long (maybe 2-3 eps). The way I see it, VRAINS wants to use Aoi as the person who Yusaku/Playmaker will open up to which will develop his character into more caring and less stoic person. I don't see any other characters who can do this job at this point, really.
The last shot of ep. seems to be the reference of the artwork on Trickstar Reincarnation.
http://i.imgur.com/E29Q8FT.png?1
That was literally 2 turns each. That's pretty damn lame.
Blueknight78
2017-06-21, 20:17
That was literally 2 turns each. That's pretty damn lame.
you sure was 2??, i think it was 3 turns for each.
i actually liked too, her deck was really a little op with all that effect damage", if she had more "draw cards" effects she could had made him burn all his hp, i really liked her deck.
this battle was really good, and what was that "other girl" falling which looked like her avatar but with a different hair", her "human form" is not he real form??, i get a little confuse with all that scene of her "angel falling" inside while she was battling outside and she is really the guy "blood related sister" or adopted because i saw peoples saying which she was adopted but it's looked more like they where really brothers by blood on all that flashback.
man another things which gonna be really stupid is "storms pop up out of nowhere for him to be able to pull his asspull cards, this last storm was terrible the way he "sunddenly appeared exact in the moment he needed it, that was really forced, overal i liked, now probably he will expend the next 2 episodes trying to awaken her from that coma, probably he gnna go to the virtual world to get her soul back from it, which probably is trapped on the virtual world for now.
rladls2121
2017-06-21, 21:37
It is like Playmaker always wins at the moment he successfully seized the wind.
you sure was 2??, i think it was 3 turns for each.
i actually liked too, her deck was really a little op with all that effect damage", if she had more "draw cards" effects she could had made him burn all his hp, i really liked her deck.
Trickstar deck is not "a little OP" it is borderline broken. :heh:
What Blue Angel did in anime was only a tiny bit of their full capacibility.
In real life play, people will play Dark Room of Nightmare (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Room_of_Nightmare) with Trickstar to boost their effect damage. Many copies of each Trickstar monsters and Trickstar Reincarnation will be used. On top of using Trickstar Reincarnation to force opponents to draw card, people will use card like Disturbance Strategy (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Disturbance_Strategy) and Present Card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Present_Card) to make them draw more.
Now images how much damage you can do when you activate many Trickstar Reincarnation, Disturbance Strategy and/or Present Card in one turn while your field have 2-3 Lycoris (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Trickstar_Lycoris) with that Light stage field spell and (many) Dark Room of Nightmare cards. :heh::heh::heh:
magnumcyclonex
2017-06-22, 01:49
That was a brutal burn deck. Good duel, but I echo other posters' sentiments about how a data storm conveniently appears when Playmaker really needs it. I hope somewhere down the line, it doesn't work out for him, similar to when Yuya couldn't always get the appropriate Action Card.
I'm curious too about that girl we saw in between the buildings. And also, when Playmaker fell off his board, why didn't he just use his infrared signal to guide the board to save him (or do that teleport thing) before he had his hand grip the side of one of the buildings? Seemed a bit strange if the technology was there but it wasn't used until it wasn't really needed.
And final thought. Blue Angel has a bigger chest than her real life counterpart. What's up with that? Maybe it's you can create your own virtual avatar to look like whatever you want it to be.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-06-22, 02:20
That was a brutal burn deck. Good duel, but I echo other posters' sentiments about how a data storm conveniently appears when Playmaker really needs it. I hope somewhere down the line, it doesn't work out for him, similar to when Yuya couldn't always get the appropriate Action Card.I'm also curious about that. Back when Yusaku encountered the storm for the first time, didn't Ignis said that he's the one who "arranged it" or "set it up"? What does that mean? Does Ignis control the storm somehow?
I'm curious too about that girl we saw in between the buildings.That's Ema. The woman that Akira hired to get some info on Playmaker.
And also, when Playmaker fell off his board, why didn't he just use his infrared signal to guide the board to save him (or do that teleport thing) before he had his hand grip the side of one of the buildings? Seemed a bit strange if the technology was there but it wasn't used until it wasn't really needed.It seems the pointer can only work if it's pointed correctly toward the board. That's why Yusaku needed to re-orient himself by hanging on the building first and then pointed at the board to teleport. I mean, your aim is not really the best when you're free-falling. That's why Playmaker being saved by Blue from falling in the earlier episodes still make sense, I think.
And final thought. Blue Angel has a bigger chest than her real life counterpart. What's up with that? Maybe it's you can create your own virtual avatar to look like whatever you want it to be.It's already established that people can modify their avatars however they like it. Don't forget, we have a reporter who is flying around with a bird avatar. I don't think modifying your chest is that big of a deal :heh:.
Blueknight78
2017-06-22, 09:40
That was a brutal burn deck. Good duel, but I echo other posters' sentiments about how a data storm conveniently appears when Playmaker really needs it. I hope somewhere down the line, it doesn't work out for him, similar to when Yuya couldn't always get the appropriate Action Card.
and what is even worst is the fact which he act like he "already knew exactly what card he gonna pull and what to do even before catch, cuz the cards where supposed to be "unknow" until he can grab then, but he act like the card inside the storm already part of his "plans to win", this make things even more weird, this episode was really terrible on that way he even was claim which everything was according to his plans, like he really know what card is too come, this is starting to make looks like that "data storms" already part of his deck, like his "extra deck".
And final thought. Blue Angel has a bigger chest than her real life counterpart. What's up with that? Maybe it's you can create your own virtual avatar to look like whatever you want it to be.
she must had breast complexs based on how "huge and boing boing" they are:heh::heh: actually based on how her avatar look and her personality inside the VR, she must have a overal complex toward herself, like blue angel is what she want to be, since her real self is not even close to that.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-22, 11:13
she must had breast complexs based on how "huge and boing boing" they are:heh::heh: actually based on how her avatar look and her personality inside the VR, she must have a overal complex toward herself, like blue angel is what she want to be, since her real self is not even close to that.
Or idk maybe she did it because she wants to be an idol and she knows flat chested ain't gonna do it. Plus if you make it so different from you nobody's gonna figure out who it is. Then again i wouldn't be surprised if thanks to this incident people figure out Aoi is Blue Angel. Which will be interesting in his own way
It is cute that Aoi makes Blue Angel's hairstyle based on her childhood hairstyle.
I hope Akira and other people (Naoki, and Blue Angel fan clubs) won't blame Yusaku/Playmaker for what happened to Aoi/Blue Angel.
rladls2121
2017-06-22, 13:27
^Well some viewers are already blaming Yusaku/Playmaker for not accepting Aoi's/Blue Angel's challenge before Specter's first contact with her and put a Hanoi card in her deck.
Seeing the preview, Yusaku really is the first Yugioh main character at the start of this series to have this anger and hate towards someone.
Yusei does not despise Jack for what he did in the past.
Yuya is just really depressed about people around him calling his father a coward.
And it is too fast for a Yugioh heroine to have be mind controlled and breaks down.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-22, 13:53
^Well some viewers are already blaming Yusaku/Playmaker for not accepting Aoi's/Blue Angel's challenge before Specter's first contact with her and put a Hanoi card in her deck.
Seeing the preview, Yusaku really is the first Yugioh main character at the start of this series to have this anger and hate towards someone.
Yusei does not despise Jack for what he did in the past.
Yuya is just really depressed about people around him calling his father a coward.
And it is too fast for a Yugioh heroine to have be mind controlled and breaks down.
The viewers who blame Yusaku are morons end of discussion.
Yusei was pretty pissed at Jack for what happened and i'd say he hated him. He just got over it once he realized okay you're a dick but you were being controlled by a bigger dick.
Do remember that by Episode 7 of the original Yugioh we already had Grandpa Moto in the shadow realm and was on his way to Duelist kindgom.
Blueknight78
2017-06-22, 14:54
Or idk maybe she did it because she wants to be an idol and she knows flat chested ain't gonna do it. Plus if you make it so different from you nobody's gonna figure out who it is. Then again i wouldn't be surprised if thanks to this incident people figure out Aoi is Blue Angel. Which will be interesting in his own way
yeah that is why i talked about "her personality" she does looks like want to be a idol or someone not "plain" or dead pan like her real self and blue angels i her "being herself" with a "nice body":heh::heh::heh:.
about disguise this make yusaki a pretty dumb and honestly after previous yugioh arc-v where everyone was missunderstand the mc with his clones and main girls with they clones, see none recognize playmaker/yusaku(peoples which already know his real identity) is pretty dumb, if one anime just have a little in common with other character already was enough to misunderstood why here everyone is on "superman level dumb" to not recognize?? at last in arc-v few of the clones actually look very different not just hair, like eyes type, bigger or small chests and hairstyle, here yusako just "put a motion cap cloth and paint his hair in red and no one can recognize him :heh::heh::heh::heh:, at last superman wear glasses".
alex_drian
2017-06-23, 23:12
Urggh, burn deck, "let me play, damnit!"
If this is just episode 7 it's pretty damn clear this is going to be the darkest Yugioh i've seen since the original (admittedly i didn't see arc-V so somebody can clarify). That being said as far as great duels go not so much.
I don't know where it is on the scale of "dark-ness", which is kinda relative to be honest. But lets just say people have used monsters for war, there is a messed up dystopia like in 5D's, and another city is destroyed by the aforementioned war, and the faction who did it hunts down survivors to turn them into cards for sport.
Oh and also, the main character just cannot catch a break ever.
VRAINS doesn't seem to have reached that level quite yet. But there's good chances it will get there eventually.
Blueknight78
2017-06-25, 16:20
I don't know where it is on the scale of "dark-ness", which is kinda relative to be honest. But lets just say people have used monsters for war, there is a messed up dystopia like in 5D's, and another city is destroyed by the aforementioned war, and the faction who did it hunts down survivors to turn them into cards for sport.
Oh and also, the main character just cannot catch a break ever.
VRAINS doesn't seem to have reached that level quite yet. But there's good chances it will get there eventually.
yeah while arc-v have a really big ammount of issues, if we have something which anyone can deny is which arc-v so far was the "most suffer" end of stick mc serie so far in yu-gi-oh, yuya litterally goes to hell and back a lot of times and get a lot of end of stick and he only get his "waifus" back in almost last seconds, the writers put every "hate/anger/bash the serie get on yuya to make him suffer as none other yu-gi-oh mc suffered, i really don't know if was the darkest serie but for sure was one of the most "crap" happening with mc" so far.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-25, 23:14
I don't know where it is on the scale of "dark-ness", which is kinda relative to be honest. But lets just say people have used monsters for war, there is a messed up dystopia like in 5D's, and another city is destroyed by the aforementioned war, and the faction who did it hunts down survivors to turn them into cards for sport.
Oh and also, the main character just cannot catch a break ever.
VRAINS doesn't seem to have reached that level quite yet. But there's good chances it will get there eventually.
yeah while arc-v have a really big ammount of issues, if we have something which anyone can deny is which arc-v so far was the "most suffer" end of stick mc serie so far in yu-gi-oh, yuya litterally goes to hell and back a lot of times and get a lot of end of stick and he only get his "waifus" back in almost last seconds, the writers put every "hate/anger/bash the serie get on yuya to make him suffer as none other yu-gi-oh mc suffered, i really don't know if was the darkest serie but for sure was one of the most "crap" happening with mc" so far.
Again i haven't seen arc-v but keep in mind that in the original Yugioh. the MC has his grandfather banished a shadow world has to deal with Pegasus a dude who can read minds and made his life miserable. Along with Bakura whose Jekyll and Hyde and turned the group into duel monsters.Once Pegasus was dealt with we meet Marik and his Rare Hunters who were pretty nasty pieces of work in their own right. Interrupt them for Noah who took the gang for a ride. Dark Marik who was psychotic. Oh and once Marik was finally turned good we meet Dartz who to me is still the greatest villian i've seen in Yugioh.
So as far as mind control goes Blue Angel's crap is nothing. You want messed up. Try watching the episodes where Marik takes control of Joey and forces them to duel each other. There are some beauties in the original and Yugi Moto certainly suffers
Blueknight78
2017-06-25, 23:59
Again i haven't seen arc-v but keep in mind that in the original Yugioh. the MC has his grandfather banished a shadow world has to deal with Pegasus a dude who can read minds and made his life miserable. Along with Bakura whose Jekyll and Hyde and turned the group into duel monsters.Once Pegasus was dealt with we meet Marik and his Rare Hunters who were pretty nasty pieces of work in their own right. Interrupt them for Noah who took the gang for a ride. Dark Marik who was psychotic. Oh and once Marik was finally turned good we meet Dartz who to me is still the greatest villian i've seen in Yugioh.
So as far as mind control goes Blue Angel's crap is nothing. You want messed up. Try watching the episodes where Marik takes control of Joey and forces them to duel each other. There are some beauties in the original and Yugi Moto certainly suffers
while yugi had many vilians and dark powers attacking him most of the times he could easy get things solved and really barelly suffered real things, the most close to suffer was when his grandfather was trapped in the dark, others things his other side along his "friends" aways helped him in a way where he barelly had any real break down.
in arc v yuya at the beginner was missunderstood by "his clones" and being blamed by what his clones where doing, he himself was being bullied by his missing father, he had to be forced to help others worlds because his waifus was kidnaped, he saw a lot of friends/allies being "carded(a sort of temporary death), he was like 3 worlds looking for the girl to everytime he was close to catch her she was just again tossed away until a point where she was finally used to fuse with her others clone to form a new girl which again break him, he ended being the "final boss" and others crap things, probably you never gonna watch it(because it's seens you don't liked even from the beginner) but for sure i can say which what yugi had close to what yuya had was like a "flesh wound" or scratch, to what yuya had to endure in his serie, he even lost sometimes (which for a yugioh mc is something really rare or almost impossible), what yugi never lost, he was the yugioh mc most abused for sure.
his life was so crap which even his "happy ending was crap lol, lol, he had like 3 to 5seconds of a happy ending lol.
this don't means which his serie was awesome or he was awesome but for sure he get the end of stick comparing with others yu-go-ho mcs.
and since you talked about yugi one thing which i feel weird after watch the last movie was all the "ship of him with the girl", cuz afar i remember they never had any real hint of "romance" they never had any of all that romances flags which the movie give, they never looked really more like tha just friends and none person say to him to look more to her or she even having all that "waifus material" focus as she had on the movie.
Idealist 99
2017-06-26, 00:47
Yeah, I can understand her feeling. :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/cjNGbhx.jpg
Come to think of it, Aoi probably use a fake deck at Duel club too. I wonder what she use.
Wait , since when Kotori and Yuzu reveal to be busty ? I thought they were as flat as Aoi.
Its sad that the original 3 heroin were hottest but nether one of them end up with the protagonist.
While , Kotori and Yuzu are only two heroin that got the guy at the end.
Which mean , Aoi will probably end up with Yusuke at the end of the series.
Blueknight78
2017-06-26, 00:53
Wait , since when Kotori and Yuzu reveal to be busty ? I thought they were as flat as Aoi.
Its sad that the original 3 heroin were hottest but nether one of them end up with the protagonist.
While , Kotori and Yuzu are only two heroin that got the guy at the end.
Which mean , Aoi will probably end up with Yusuke at the end of the series.
sure about that?? while i don't watched 5d, i hear which while they don't really ended together they have a sort of "promise", to be together and the mc had feelings toward her, unlike yugi and jaden which only have "eyes for cards" and are totally unware of "existence of female gender".
while in GX in later the main girl develop a crush over jaden, he was tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... whatever to it to even aknowledge which she is a female" and only have eyes for cards and in yugi, they where aways on the "big friendly group" of 3 guys and a girl and nothing really was developed only on the last movie which they did some tease about yugi and the girl but again just a tease since also yugi was like jade and have only eyes for cards.
Again i haven't seen arc-v but keep in mind that in the original Yugioh. the MC has his grandfather banished a shadow world has to deal with Pegasus a dude who can read minds and made his life miserable. Along with Bakura whose Jekyll and Hyde and turned the group into duel monsters.Once Pegasus was dealt with we meet Marik and his Rare Hunters who were pretty nasty pieces of work in their own right. Interrupt them for Noah who took the gang for a ride. Dark Marik who was psychotic. Oh and once Marik was finally turned good we meet Dartz who to me is still the greatest villian i've seen in Yugioh.
I don't know how somehow "mind controlling two friends and making them duel eachother" is more "dark" than "People running and hiding in fear of child soldiers who will turn them into cards, struggling to survive in a ruined city".
Again, overall I'm not sure where it fits on the scale of "dark-ness", since it's subjective (I've seen people treat "people fighting in the streets" as more "dark" than "complete apocalypse"), but judging from this response, you seem to be already convinced that there is nothing darker than Yu-Gi-Oh and that Arc-V is just a happy go lucky story compared to it.
I mean, the grandpa actually came back at the end of the arc, and the focus was in fact, getting him back, so you knew beforehand that he would be saved. Same for many other cast members who got "temporarily killed", except in even less episodes.
Blueknight78
2017-06-26, 10:18
I don't know how somehow "mind controlling two friends and making them duel eachother" is more "dark" than "People running and hiding in fear of child soldiers who will turn them into cards, struggling to survive in a ruined city".
Again, overall I'm not sure where it fits on the scale of "dark-ness", since it's subjective (I've seen people treat "people fighting in the streets" as more "dark" than "complete apocalypse"), but judging from this response, you seem to be already convinced that there is nothing darker than Yu-Gi-Oh and that Arc-V is just a happy go lucky story compared to it.
I mean, the grandpa actually came back at the end of the arc, and the focus was in fact, getting him back, so you knew beforehand that he would be saved. Same for many other cast members who got "temporarily killed", except in even less episodes.
also if you think, mind control also happened in almost every yu-gi-oh serie and think which arc-v was even worst, cuz not only friends bot also the loved girl get brainwashed in a crap way, even the guy which did the mindcontrol had give a "molester/rape viber in one episode, i really feel like arc-v was the most dark of all yu-gi-oh serie, while he not was the best and probably the worst at plot wise when comes to creep, crap and darkness things scalated pretty high compared with others series.
this serie can be worst than arc-v ofcourse but it still do a "lot of even worst things" to get worst than arc-v.
ukulelembo
2017-06-26, 14:09
Wait , since when Kotori and Yuzu reveal to be busty ?
Yuzu and her counterparts were all pretty much normal sized.
Blueknight78
2017-06-26, 14:22
Yuzu and her counterparts were all pretty much normal sized.
actually each yuzu had a "different size of breast even if the difference was small, the biggest chest size goes for the 5d universe, and the small one goes to the fusion one with regular world and xyz world having the "middle sizes
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/j0HTVIE_4M0/maxresdefault.jpg
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh-arcv/images/3/3d/Ruri_Full_Body_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20160821102215
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh-arcv/images/b/b5/Arc_V_Ed_4_Yugo_and_Rin.png/revision/latest?cb=20151006112421
http://static.tumblr.com/01f7de51602ba16e58006c3050ba3d7d/4esrzob/ZyCnp8dv5/tumblr_static_30j82nqve4e8oog4gkoco40sc.png
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh-arcv/images/e/ea/Sp_chara03.png/revision/latest?cb=20140408230847
serena was the famous "A cup(flat chest)
while rin was the C and yuzu and ruri being the B.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-26, 17:10
I don't know how somehow "mind controlling two friends and making them duel eachother" is more "dark" than "People running and hiding in fear of child soldiers who will turn them into cards, struggling to survive in a ruined city".
Again, overall I'm not sure where it fits on the scale of "dark-ness", since it's subjective (I've seen people treat "people fighting in the streets" as more "dark" than "complete apocalypse"), but judging from this response, you seem to be already convinced that there is nothing darker than Yu-Gi-Oh and that Arc-V is just a happy go lucky story compared to it.
I mean, the grandpa actually came back at the end of the arc, and the focus was in fact, getting him back, so you knew beforehand that he would be saved. Same for many other cast members who got "temporarily killed", except in even less episodes.
I admitted i never saw ARC-V on multiple occasions. Well whatever. In the end the stuff with Aoi is nothing special
I wouldn't say it's "nothing special" myself, but it's also par for the course for a ygo show.
rladls2121
2017-06-27, 17:14
I realized what I miss about the Arc-V the most is those dragons.
Those four dragons are what I really miss more than the characters themselves are using.
I love these dragons than Signer dragons from 5d's.
Clear Wing and Starve Venom are the dragons that has more than one Monster effect compared to Odd Eyes and Dark Rebellion.
I mean Odd Eyes has decent Pendulum effects and Dark Rebellion steals monsters attacks and then add it to its own.
I found the Synchro Dragon's and Fusion Dragon's way more cooler.
Too bad the Link Dragon will never exist, and Link Dimension?
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-06-29, 10:59
What's the deal with this weeks episode. Shouldn't it have aired by now
CCPDarkraiRules
2017-06-29, 11:11
@ImpeialFlameGod8190 Its not airing this week. It airs on July 5th next week.
Fairy Water
2017-06-29, 11:48
Btw is there a reason why there's no ep this week? I have to put ep 7 on-hold just because of this weird break. :heh:
Edit: heard it was music festival or stuff like that.
Fairy Water
2017-07-03, 12:33
I finally decide to watch ep 7 and as much as I was disappointed bc of the quality dropped, I was stunned with the fallen angel scene... and have to rewatch it twice.
That's freakkin beautifully done, the sounds and the camera angles... usually only great villains get this kind of ending scene but they did it anyway for Aoi and made it looked epic af. With Aoi in the hospital I guess she won't interact with Yusaku much from now on.
Can't wait for ep 8 :heh:
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2017-07-03, 18:52
Why talk about that certain topic and not the actual series itself?Because if the actual series itself isn't interesting and the only that could be brought up as a discussion topic was that, then it kinda gives you an idea about the quality of the story that each generation of the series has had.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-05, 08:20
Neither. SOL technologies is almost certainly aware of the fact she's Blue Angel considering the influence on Link VRAINS that they seem to have. He wants to hide her identity because he was worried that if the KOH learned about her real idenity and connection to him that they would manipulate her and use her as a weapon to get what they want (ironically enough like they're doing right now) :heh::heh::heh:.
Well i was half right on this one. Still this episode was yet another painful episode to watch. I'm gonna keep going but i mean come on.
Blueknight78
2017-07-05, 18:27
now he had to use 2 times his "motto" lol, now i'm expectating come a episode where half of his total speechs on that episode gonna be
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
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1...
2...
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this gue serious need to look for a professional cuz this really not "cool" and make him look like a dumb.
honestly i'm start to dislike it on him really with this, well basically a set-up episode for his battle with the guy from hanoi knights, but it's not a little "too early" for they fight i means, he can't win for now if this happen then the hanoi knight will turn in fodders too fast and all the build over this guy will be down and if him wins is game over cuz he gonna get his hands on yusaki AI and probably she can't wake up, i really feel weird about the incoming episode, it's really feel like a little "rush".
lol
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-05, 20:30
now he had to use 2 times his "motto" lol, now i'm expectating come a episode where half of his total speechs on that episode gonna be
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
3...
this gue serious need to look for a professional cuz this really not "cool" and make him look like a dumb.
honestly i'm start to dislike it on him really with this, well basically a set-up episode for his battle with the guy from hanoi knights, but it's not a little "too early" for they fight i means, he can't win for now if this happen then the hanoi knight will turn in fodders too fast and all the build over this guy will be down and if him wins is game over cuz he gonna get his hands on yusaki AI and probably she can't wake up, i really feel weird about the incoming episode, it's really feel like a little "rush".
lol
True but i think it's gonna be a draw. plus i get the sense that eventually they're gonna restore the Cyverse and start fighting their sooner or later
tuckersister
2017-07-05, 21:07
Yusaku VS Revolver is a 3 parter. The duel will end in a draw or Yusaku winning.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-05, 21:21
Yusaku VS Revolver is a 3 parter. The duel will end in a draw or Yusaku winning.
Sounds good. The duels so far have been painfully short
Blueknight78
2017-07-05, 21:28
Yusaku VS Revolver is a 3 parter. The duel will end in a draw or Yusaku winning.
yeah, because he need win to save aoi or at last find a way to make revolver give then the program to remove the virus but if revolver lose this means or he must find a way to run fast or yusaku will get alls his "answer" just in the beginner, the problem is revolver have a big weight in the plot to loose so early.
BPD Renegade
2017-07-05, 21:52
Yeah, I have to agree with Blueknight about the 1-2-3 quirk. I fear having to endure 150 episodes of this. Do kids even think it's cool?
Sounds good. The duels so far have been painfully shortThree-parter doesn't necessarily mean long duels. The one against Go was two episodes and around 5 turns each? It really depends on if they drag it out or not, and I wouldn't be surprised if we get a lot of flashbacks. As long as the duel is good, I don't care if it's short, but it would also be nice to get a traditional duel once in a while.
Also, why the hell was Aoi in an operating room? Did they need to operate to remove a duel disk that was on her wrist? :eyebrow:
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-05, 22:33
Yeah, I have to agree with Blueknight about the 1-2-3 quirk. I fear having to endure 150 episodes of this. Do kids even think it's cool?
Three-parter doesn't necessarily mean long duels. The one against Go was two episodes and around 5 turns each? It really depends on if they drag it out or not, and I wouldn't be surprised if we get a lot of flashbacks. As long as the duel is good, I don't care if it's short, but it would also be nice to get a traditional duel once in a while.
Also, why the hell was Aoi in an operating room? Did they need to operate to remove a duel disk that was on her wrist? :eyebrow:
she was in that room because she's in a freaking coma.
she was in that room because she's in a freaking coma.
I mean. I get what you're saying, but they don't usually put coma patients in operating rooms. Those rooms are for doing surgery in. Hospitals have other rooms.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-05, 23:03
I mean. I get what you're saying, but they don't usually put coma patients in operating rooms. Those rooms are for doing surgery in. Hospitals have other rooms.Maybe they ran out of other rooms coz the hospital already use them to treat the badly-injured Vrains duelists that Blue Angel sent flying earlier in episode 6? :D...:heh:...:uhoh:
Blueknight78
2017-07-06, 00:07
Yeah, I have to agree with Blueknight about the 1-2-3 quirk. I fear having to endure 150 episodes of this. Do kids even think it's cool?
well when he did it for the second time im the same episode i was like:
http://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/naked3-gif.gif
i can foreshadow it becoming a meme in future :eyespin::eyespin::eyespin:
rladls2121
2017-07-06, 00:44
Those idiots of three chess pieces, if they think they understand the relationsips Akira and Aoi that much, they are suppose to realize that Blue Angel is not side with Hanoi.
Knowing Aoi as Blue Angel, there is no way these people cannot see through Akira's true intentions.
I certainly prefer Yusaku's 1-2-3's quirk rather than Yuya's "Ladies and Gentlemen" chant or Yuma's "MUH KATTOBINGU" or smth. Dunno why people make this a big deal tbh, for once I actually enjoying the serious character on main protagonist on this YGO series have here unlike some of the previous protagonist.
Yeah, I have to agree with Blueknight about the 1-2-3 quirk. I fear having to endure 150 episodes of this. Do kids even think it's cool?
Three-parter doesn't necessarily mean long duels. The one against Go was two episodes and around 5 turns each? It really depends on if they drag it out or not, and I wouldn't be surprised if we get a lot of flashbacks. As long as the duel is good, I don't care if it's short, but it would also be nice to get a traditional duel once in a while.
Also, why the hell was Aoi in an operating room? Did they need to operate to remove a duel disk that was on her wrist? :eyebrow:if you consider the episode titles it will be 4 parter dual 9 10 11 and 12
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-06, 08:46
Those idiots of three chess pieces, if they think they understand the relationsips Akira and Aoi that much, they are suppose to realize that Blue Angel is not side with Hanoi.
Knowing Aoi as Blue Angel, there is no way these people cannot see through Akira's true intentions.
You said it yourself. They're idiots
Fairy Water
2017-07-06, 22:20
So... pp r saying this is similar to SAO but I don't see even a tiny bit of possibility Yusaku and Aoi will like each other afterward.
Emma is really an interesting character, I wonder if she plays bigger roles later on or just simply an secret agent who tracks Yusaku till he stops being Playmaker.
rladls2121
2017-07-06, 23:05
^Well, Kazuto would never shout out to himself something like "Into the SAO!".
Blueknight78
2017-07-07, 03:51
So... pp r saying this is similar to SAO but I don't see even a tiny bit of possibility Yusaku and Aoi will like each other afterward.
Emma is really an interesting character, I wonder if she plays bigger roles later on or just simply an secret agent who tracks Yusaku till he stops being Playmaker.
why not???? this could be already the "starting flag", mc saving the girl open the path to make her start to fall for him, like she find which she was saved by playmaker this will make her admire him which lead to love, or maybe she can find which yusaku was supporting her while she was in coma then this make her want be more "friend" and close to him and things gooo, while so far is really to early to talk about it, it's not like others previous yu-gi-oh you don't have at last some "crush here and there" with the last 2 (and maybe 5d too) with more "serious romance" rater than just crush, only time and writers desires gonna say it later if we gonna get romance or nor between then but we still on the realm of "anything is possible", nothing is really setted in stone.
^Well, Kazuto would never shout out to himself something like "Into the SAO!".
and neither goes and
1 - i will save everyone from the world
2 - i will marry assuna
3 - i will build my harem
:heh::heh::heh::heh:, just imagining kirito doing that yusaku motto already make me laught a lot and feel bad for him.
Idealist 99
2017-07-07, 04:47
now he had to use 2 times his "motto" lol, now i'm expectating come a episode where half of his total speechs on that episode gonna be
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
3...
1...
2...
3...
this gue serious need to look for a professional cuz this really not "cool" and make him look like a dumb.
honestly i'm start to dislike it on him really with this, well basically a set-up episode for his battle with the guy from hanoi knights, but it's not a little "too early" for they fight i means, he can't win for now if this happen then the hanoi knight will turn in fodders too fast and all the build over this guy will be down and if him wins is game over cuz he gonna get his hands on yusaki AI and probably she can't wake up, i really feel weird about the incoming episode, it's really feel like a little "rush".
lol
Hey, it still far better and cooler then Yuma's "Kattobingu-ore"
Plus, it also show Yusaku competence as a detective.
I was wondering another thing, why does Revolver has to duel Playmaker to get Egnis ?
He already got Playmaker trapped, He can easily take Egnis away form him.
You know, half of Yugioh villain would have won if they decided to shoot the heroes rather then dueling them.
Hey, it still far better and cooler then Yuma's "Kattobingu-ore"
Plus, it also show Yusaku competence as a detective.
I was wondering another thing, why does Revolver has to duel Playmaker to get Egnis ?
He already got Playmaker trapped, He can easily take Egnis away form him.
You know, half of Yugioh villain would have won if they decided to shoot the heroes rather then dueling them.
Finally someone I'm agree with. Yusaku's quirk is nowhere as annoying as Yuma and Yuya. Also, IIRC on episode 1, Yusaku stated that he locked the AI on duel program, so the AI can only be released via dueling him or something like that
If you somehow managed to make it to the SIXTH show in the franchise while still asking why it is that people settle everything through a children's card game... How on earth did you survive the previous five?
BPD Renegade
2017-07-07, 12:26
I haven't watched a Yu-gi-oh series since 5D's, so I don't remember any catchphrases that were nearly as grating or noticeable as this. Are the previous two series that bad? I've been debating going back and watching Zexal and/or Arc V. What's the general opinion here on those two? From what I've seen, people either call them the best thing ever or the worst thing ever, or the best thing ever that started out bad or vice-versa. It's completely all over the place.
If you somehow managed to make it to the SIXTH show in the franchise while still asking why it is that people settle everything through a children's card game... How on earth did you survive the previous five?:heh:
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-07, 16:58
Yeah, at least VRAINS gives you a reason why the bad guys need to duel Playmaker as he programmed it so that Ignis can only be obtained by winning a duel against him (for now). And there's also the battle between the Millennium Item-users in the original where you can only get the other's soul by competing in a game against each other and win. The M&W card game created by Pegasus is the perfect medium since it was made/inspired by the similar Egyptian sacred game/ritual in Atem's era.
You do realise the whole "You can only obtain Ignis by dueling me" condition is incredibly flimsy, right?
I mean I don't mind, this is how YGO always is. But it's flimsy. They could just hack his avatar.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-08, 10:35
You do realise the whole "You can only obtain Ignis by dueling me" condition is incredibly flimsy, right?
I mean I don't mind, this is how YGO always is. But it's flimsy. They could just hack his avatar.Easy there, mate. Try not to be confrontative for a second. All I said is that Yusaku's program in VRAINS & Millenum Item-users in DM gave us reasons for the bad guys to do card-dueling. I'm not saying they're the most solid reasons in the world, but they're still reasons nonetheless (which is better than nothing like in many cases of bad guys in DM Orichalcos, GX, 5D'S, etc).
I wasn't being confrontative. And what you say makes sense.
I wasn't being confrontative. And what you say makes sense.you know i just seen kaiba vs yugi collusium battle and it made me relize how i dislike long duals which stretch to 4 or 5 parter since it bit too much
To me it depends on whether or not anything actually happens during those episodes. Sometimes only two or so turns pass, with only meaningless exposition or pointless flashbacks to things we already know to pad out the episode.
Sometimes there's instead a lot of action/clever tactics, as well as some new cool bit of info about the characters or the world. Or something interesting happens in a beta scene.
Idealist 99
2017-07-10, 07:19
If you somehow managed to make it to the SIXTH show in the franchise while still asking why it is that people settle everything through a children's card game... How on earth did you survive the previous five?
I have manage to make it to the sixth show by ignoring many thing.
For example, this show is still call "Yugioh" even though Yugi is no longer the protagonist.
Or Yugioh originally wasn't about children card game! It was about a spirit of Pharaoh that took over a wimpy kid's body to punish many bad people though various games.
In fact , Yugioh was more like " No Game No Life" .
How the hell the show become entirely about Trading card game ?
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-10, 07:30
How the hell the show become entirely about Trading card game ?Money talks :cool:.
Blueknight78
2017-07-10, 11:01
In fact , Yugioh was more like " No Game No Life" .
How the hell the show become entirely about Trading card game ?
well because like pokemon the show source is a "trading card game" and unlike others series this want make it clear which the focus is the trade card game, like vanguard, the thing about the pharao was just a excuse to sell the card game.
It's just the show focusing where it was supposed to focus.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-10, 11:34
well because like pokemon the show source is a "trading card game" and unlike others series this want make it clear which the focus is the trade card game, like vanguard, the thing about the pharao was just a excuse to sell the card game.No, that's not true.
Yu-Gi-Oh! anime's original source is a manga about a kid who got possessed by an amnesiac nameless pharaoh and become the "King of Games" (hence the title). The "Magic & Wizard" TCG which was created by Pegasus in-story (and by the author Takahashi in reality) is only one game out of many that were featured in the manga. Due to its popularity in "Duelist Kingdom" arc, the publisher requested Takahashi to make more arcs featuring the card game. The manga cards themselves were very popular that Konami made actual cards out of them. After he was done with the card-based "Battle City" arc, Kazuki Takahashi returned the manga's story back to its soul-searching root for the Pharaoh to conclude his story by facing his dark past. Ironically, the anime still managed to insert even more card games in this "ancient Egyptian memory" arc. In the original manga, there was no card game in that arc until the very end where Yugi & Atem dueled to determine Atem's fate.
After YGO! DM ended, Konami & Toei continue to milk the popularity of the card games by making more YGO animes series without Takahashi's manga.
ukulelembo
2017-07-10, 19:25
New art from based Noh Gil-Bo:
http://i.imgur.com/xnCzb05.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/2uM8hwx.jpg)
Blueknight78
2017-07-10, 20:32
No, that's not true.
Yu-Gi-Oh! anime's original source is a manga about a kid who got possessed by an amnesiac nameless pharaoh and become the "King of Games" (hence the title). The "Magic & Wizard" TCG which was created by Pegasus in-story (and by the author Takahashi in reality) is only one game out of many that were featured in the manga. Due to its popularity in "Duelist Kingdom" arc, the publisher requested Takahashi to make more arcs featuring the card game. The manga cards themselves were very popular that Konami made actual cards out of them. After he was done with the card-based "Battle City" arc, Kazuki Takahashi returned the manga's story back to its soul-searching root for the Pharaoh to conclude his story by facing his dark past. Ironically, the anime still managed to insert even more card games in this "ancient Egyptian memory" arc. In the original manga, there was no card game in that arc until the very end where Yugi & Atem dueled to determine Atem's fate.
After YGO! DM ended, Konami & Toei continue to milk the popularity of the card games by making more YGO animes series without Takahashi's manga.
wow really thanks, this is something which i really neved knew, until now, i aways was under the idea of it being based on the card game and not the opposite, really interesting to knew, but why the writer never tried to keep on the root in the manga and just goes with konami and just keep making mangas from the animes and all being about cards???, just for the money too? because all the others mangas after that where aways about card games he could had tried to keep on the roots in the manga.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-10, 22:15
but why the writer never tried to keep on the root in the manga and just goes with konami and just keep making mangas from the animes and all being about cards???, just for the money too?Well, aside from 'Duelist Kingdom' arc that launched the popularity of the M&W TCG, Takahashi basically only made one long arc involving the TCG based on the publisher's request, it's more or less called the 'Battle City' arc. It's arguably the most popular arc because Takahashi didn't just make that arc for the corporate interest but also as a way to conclude the rivalry between Yugi & Kaiba (at the time) and also make it a ripe setting to bring in more Millenium Item-users like Malik & Isis who are from the Ishtar family that ties into Atem's past as the nameless pharaoh. The arc is so popular coz it's packed with everything that the fans like: exploration of Yugi/Atem's backstory, exciting card duels with lives on the line, a good and nasty main villain, battles between Millenium Item-users, a good friendship story, and the wide scope of the setting which involved an entire city to explore (kinda like Pokemon Go) and duels atop the air balloon and Kaiba Tower for the quarter-final, semi-final and final duels.
So, it's not just about money. Takahashi accommodated the request in order for him to tell the story that he always wanted. And getting more money in the process doesn't hurt :p.
After that arc, he pretty much ditched the card game and went to the Atem's past which set in ancient Egypt as the last arc. He used the TCG again as the last battle between Atem & Yugi because the M&W cards are the modern iteration of the monster duels from the ancient egypt. Plus, the cards-deck more or less holds the soul of Mahad & Mana from Atem's past.
because all the others mangas after that where aways about card games he could had tried to keep on the roots in the manga. The author felt that he already finished telling his story at the end of YGO manga where Atem returned to the world of the dead and be together with his loved ones. At this point, Takahashi don’t need to work anymore coz can just live on the royalty money of his popular Yu-Gi-Oh! brand, and he apparently has no problem with new YGO anime series with different characters that spun off from his original story. He did not write the manga for GX, 5DÂ’s, etc. They were written by someone else as tie-in multimedia with the anime.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-11, 06:31
well because like pokemon the show source is a "trading card game" and unlike others series this want make it clear which the focus is the trade card game, like vanguard, the thing about the pharao was just a excuse to sell the card game.
It's just the show focusing where it was supposed to focus.
Pokemon isn't based off a trading card game. It's based off of the video games.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-12, 08:25
Episode just aired and i find myself truly impressed for the first time this series.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-12, 09:23
Uhm, why did the subber translate Condenser Deathstalker(?) into Capasitor Stalker in this episode? Is the latter the official name in the US or something? :confused:
Btw, what an intense duel! Also, next week is Master Duel!!
rladls2121
2017-07-12, 13:33
Makes me wonder who is going to be the cheerleading heroine in Vrains.
Is it Aoi or that Naoki guy the guy who sometimes flirting with Yusaku?
magnumcyclonex
2017-07-13, 00:37
Really good duel so far! I am liking Revolver's calculations and plays in this episode. Now THIS is how a good duelist should be portrayed, not that wannabe called Go Onizuka.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-13, 10:28
Makes me wonder who is going to be the cheerleading heroine in Vrains.
Is it Aoi or that Naoki guy the guy who sometimes flirting with Yusaku?
Aoi is gonna wake up find out what happened from her brother and somehow her AI will reveal that Yusaku is Playmaker. Then she'll join him in his quest to defeat Hanoi. It'll be similar to what happened with Aki from 5D's
Really good duel so far! I am liking Revolver's calculations and plays in this episode. Now THIS is how a good duelist should be portrayed, not that wannabe called Go Onizuka.
I love the duel but again i shudder. That was literally his second turn and it's like damn can they have something last more then a few turns. (Yusaku only had 1 and he pulled off all that shit)
magnumcyclonex
2017-07-13, 12:35
I love the duel but again i shudder. That was literally his second turn and it's like damn can they have something last more then a few turns. (Yusaku only had 1 and he pulled off all that shit)
I think part of the reason could be because the Link Summon takes so much time. Probably more than Synchro Summoning, Xyz Summoning, and Pendulum Summoning. Has anyone ever timed these special summoning sequences from the past series? Maybe its all about the same length of time, but to me, Link Summoning just feels a bit longer.
Also, Yusaku going through summoning Links 1, 2, and 3 took a good chunk of air time. It's going to get pretty tedious in my opinion, if we have to see this sequence over and over in later episodes.
Blueknight78
2017-07-13, 12:37
Pokemon isn't based off a trading card game. It's based off of the video games.
i knew this, i wanted means more like the source not being a manga or novel but rater a game (real life trading card game or video game)
another note, the fact which all the fights are about "reduce the user hp to pull the skill is starting to make "loose hp" feel much less punishing than it should be, because we know the true fights aways start only when yusaki and now revolver goes beyound 1k hp, this take away a lot the "fear of loose HP" since they where expectating it and even work on it to happen, this really make loosing hp look dumb and weak.
well the episode was good but it still feel too short since with just 2 turns you could almost win or win, i'm really not fan of that too fast card game tacticals, this make me remember the famous magic combo where with just one turn you could beat your enemie, while this show how powerfull and OP you can be this take away a good amotion of battle emotion, i'm really not fan of too short battles, they really look empty when comes to emotions" for me.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-13, 19:07
I think part of the reason could be because the Link Summon takes so much time. Probably more than Synchro Summoning, Xyz Summoning, and Pendulum Summoning. Has anyone ever timed these special summoning sequences from the past series? Maybe its all about the same length of time, but to me, Link Summoning just feels a bit longer.
Also, Yusaku going through summoning Links 1, 2, and 3 took a good chunk of air time. It's going to get pretty tedious in my opinion, if we have to see this sequence over and over in later episodes.
Synchro Summoning i believe is longer. The problem is there's usually one maybe 2 Synchro's in a duel per person. Yuusaku had what 3 link Summons in his one turn. They feel longer because there are so many of them.
(sadly we are going to see more of these)
i knew this, i wanted means more like the source not being a manga or novel but rater a game (real life trading card game or video game)
another note, the fact which all the fights are about "reduce the user hp to pull the skill is starting to make "loose hp" feel much less punishing than it should be, because we know the true fights aways start only when yusaki and now revolver goes beyound 1k hp, this take away a lot the "fear of loose HP" since they where expectating it and even work on it to happen, this really make loosing hp look dumb and weak.
well the episode was good but it still feel too short since with just 2 turns you could almost win or win, i'm really not fan of that too fast card game tacticals, this make me remember the famous magic combo where with just one turn you could beat your enemie, while this show how powerfull and OP you can be this take away a good amotion of battle emotion, i'm really not fan of too short battles, they really look empty when comes to emotions" for me.
I agree that it's too fast and also it's the fact that they drain life points so quickly makes it more annoying.
Idealist 99
2017-07-14, 09:14
Aoi is gonna wake up find out what happened from her brother and somehow her AI will reveal that Yusaku is Playmaker. Then she'll join him in his quest to defeat Hanoi. It'll be similar to what happened with Aki from 5D's
I love the duel but again i shudder. That was literally his second turn and it's like damn can they have something last more then a few turns. (Yusaku only had 1 and he pulled off all that shit)
Nah, I think her brother will get fired from his Job and Aoi will blame herself for it.
So, she will make it her personal mission to take down Hanoi for manipulating her and getting her brother fired.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-14, 10:34
Nah, I think her brother will get fired from his Job and Aoi will blame herself for it.
So, she will make it her personal mission to take down Hanoi for manipulating her and getting her brother fired.
That works too. As long as Aoi joins the party. I do think he needs an ally in all of this.
tuckersister
2017-07-14, 18:51
I wonder if the next gen God cards will make a come back. Descendants of the original three..as Link Monsters. Someone creates them for some reason.
rladls2121
2017-07-15, 01:39
I feel like Revolver's words of how he does not trust AIs and hates the internet being the fiction made the main characters from SAO a natural enemy.
I think it'll be interesting if Revolver is actually a villain in Sword Art Online series.
I feel like Revolver's words of how he does not trust AIs and hates the internet being the fiction made the main characters from SAO a natural enemy.
I think it'll be interesting if Revolver is actually a villain in Sword Art Online series.
Revolver motive really strike me in, internet being fiction that blinded people from reality are gross sin of internet for long time.
Somehow i want to siding myself with Hanoi now as i am found internet being bane for humanity as well although i using internet a lot time:heh::heh:
I would argue that Link summoning lends itself to chain summoning very well since it sets up special summon loops, and can exchange monsters that meet one summoning condition (say, a normal monster, for example a randomly summoned token) to something that meets another (say, two cyberse monsters, turning the one token into a cyberse monster),
magnumcyclonex
2017-07-19, 09:18
Nice cliffhanger on episode 10! I really like how the duels transpired from one another.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-19, 10:28
Well the cliffhanger was very very nice but the in between wasn't as much. The start of the battle disappointed me the bizarre twist i'm like... huh and then the ending piece made zero sense considering the explanation given. Yea either i'm badly missing something or they just pulling stuff out of their butts... even more then normal
Well the cliffhanger was very very nice but the in between wasn't as much. The start of the battle disappointed me the bizarre twist i'm like... huh and then the ending piece made zero sense considering the explanation given. Yea either i'm badly missing something or they just pulling stuff out of their butts... even more then normal
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Prison
It's the real effect of this card and activated when Playmaker summon Decode. He need to get rid both of Decode and Encode to destroy this card
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-19, 12:05
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Prison
It's the real effect of this card and activated when Playmaker summon Decode. He need to get rid both of Decode and Encode to destroy this card
I don't doubt the effect though i was curious what took him so long. What i find surprising is the way that episode was executed. I mean you defeat him in one duel just to start another on a new arena. The real problem is why they vanished since they're not destroyed.
On the bright side we didn't have his 3 reasons shtick this time.
rladls2121
2017-07-19, 14:21
I have not watched the episode, but did it have Ignis saying "Seize the wind, Playmaker!" line?
I don't doubt the effect though i was curious what took him so long. What i find surprising is the way that episode was executed. I mean you defeat him in one duel just to start another on a new arena. The real problem is why they vanished since they're not destroyed.
On the bright side we didn't have his 3 reasons shtick this time.you know it also very simple to destroy this field spell. all yusako has to do is draw a card which will help him destroy his own link monsters which will end up in the fire prison destroyed
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-19, 18:31
The real problem is why they vanished since they're not destroyed.They're not vanished. They were fighting inside the gigantic storm that nobody else can enter. The calm center of the storm is where they're doing the Master Duel.
I have not watched the episode, but did it have Ignis saying "Seize the wind, Playmaker!" line?Yes.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-19, 23:20
They're not vanished. They were fighting inside the gigantic storm that nobody else can enter. The calm center of the storm is where they're doing the Master Duel.
Yes.
i'm talking about the monsters at the end Obelisk. They vanished completely along with Ignis and the effect only negated them. Something seemed wrong
i'm talking about the monsters at the end Obelisk. They vanished completely along with Ignis and the effect only negated them. Something seemed wrong
They also can't attack or targeted for attacks, thus making Playmaker vulnerable for direct attack, hence the 'vanished' effect I guess.
It's because the effect of the card makes it "as if they don't exist". Note the "as if", they still do exist.
They should have made Revolver say out loud that the effect can be activated when two or more Cyberse monsters are on the field.
They are still on the field, so you can't summon new monsters on their spots, and I suppose they still count for effects that count the number of monsters on the field.
Also, the card says nothing about using them as tribute or sending them to the graveyard to pay a cost. As far as I understand, that doesn't count as a "card effect".
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-20, 04:33
i'm talking about the monsters at the end Obelisk. They vanished completely along with Ignis and the effect only negated them. Something seemed wrongWhoopsie, my bad. The monsters & Iggy "vanishing" is either your usual dramatization of the card-effects or Revolver actually adds something more to it (it's all programs after all, and he's a hacker).
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-20, 09:07
In any event let's see what happens next.
rladls2121
2017-07-20, 12:06
So the Cyberse monsters cannot be affected by other card effects, targeted by effects from other cards, and be chosen as an attack target, but they are still on the field.
Are there any cards that still can use these disappeared monsters as costs?
Blueknight78
2017-07-20, 12:18
well basically the episode ended in a "tie" before yusaki could use his new gathered monster, just be started again, now inside the storm wow.
Another note, now not only revolver but also ignis can "create datastorms to gather monsters, wow things are getting even worst at "asspull" this serie really pulling hard the asspulls in yu-gi-oh to a whole new level.
well now revolver was "soo ready" to battle yusaki which he asked his father create a card specifically to defeat his deck, lol, somehow i'm still have some impression which revolver somehow "want to loose", based on what he told earlly about "being a sacrifice", somehow looks like he is planning something more than just defeat playmaker and finally i'm honestly hope this battle with him don't last more than 2 episodes from now, because while i also hate too fast battle like they first battle which was basically a 2 turn battle, aslo making then last too long with long speechs and nothing really happening or take a whole episode to summon one monster and things like that can also be bad.
another thing which come to my mind, since they started a new duel, then they can use again they "skills", then they can summon a data storm "inside a data storm"?????!!!!
magnumcyclonex
2017-07-20, 12:23
I'm going to equate the "vanishing act" as something similar to the Shadow Games back when we had the Millennium Items. Remember Marik vs Bakura aboard the Kaiba airship? Although that was among the duelists themselves.
As for the Cyberse monsters not being "seen" on the field, it's like The Legendary Fisherman hiding under Umi. The monster still exists, and takes up a monster zone space. And the owner should be able to use it for tribute summoning or any other type of Special Summoning (unless there's card text that explicitly states otherwise).
CCPDarkraiRules
2017-07-20, 12:33
@Blueknight78 Ignis unleashed the data storm for the 1st Speed Duel back in episode 1 so is it unbelievable that he can find monsters in it as well.
Also Skills can only be used in Speed Duels Revolver and Yusaku can currently in a Master Duel i.e a regular duel.
Blueknight78
2017-07-20, 12:43
@Blueknight78 Ignis unleashed the data storm for the 1st Speed Duel back in episode 1 so is it unbelievable that he can find monsters in it as well.
Also Skills can only be used in Speed Duels Revolver and Yusaku can currently in a Master Duel i.e a regular duel.
hmm i need watch again, while i'm aware of data storms having monsters inside to be summoned was something set in stone, i really didn't recall ignis being able to "create data storms", this make his skill even more OP than what already is. basically playmaker will be getting a new card on almost every battle aslong it is a speed duel, this means which he will be the mc to get "more cards" than any other mc in yu-gi-oh based on his style.
hmmm and thanks about the clarification, that could be really weird they creating "data storms" inside data storms", then revolver could be keep generating a unlimited cicle of get inside data storms lol :heh::heh:, interesting to know which skills can be used only on speed duels, however, since speed "duels" where not allowed before playmaker come, then how the guys had skills, if they aways battled on "normal no speed duel way????.
rladls2121
2017-07-20, 12:44
Still, technically Cyberse monster are still in better state than those Overlay Units of Xyz monsters, better than not being considered on the field.
Monsters themselves are unable to attack and use their effects.
The duelists/players still can use them in some way.
To think Revolver's true power of his deck is like a lockdown.
Really, lockdowns always look cheap to me.
Requiem-x
2017-07-20, 13:02
Well, ****. I think that summarizes what happened at the end of the episode, yes. Really good, intense stuff all around, and with the perfect way to dramatize such a nasty effect. That doesn't involve a torture wheel, that is.
another thing which come to my mind, since they started a new duel, then they can use again they "skills", then they can summon a data storm "inside a data storm"?????!!!!
Skills are part of a Speed Duel, this is a Master Duel.
And like I said, I don't think Tribute or Sending as part of a Cost counts as being targeted by a card effect. Although someone more knowledgeable about the rules might correct me on that. That said, I'm not sure the anime would exploit such a weaksauce loophole. I mean if that were the case he could just summon a Link-4 monster using Encode and Decode Talker.
Anyway, the point of this card was obviously to make Ignis disappear as well.
Eerie Code
2017-07-20, 15:12
Skills are part of a Speed Duel, this is a Master Duel.
And like I said, I don't think Tribute or Sending as part of a Cost counts as being targeted by a card effect. Although someone more knowledgeable about the rules might correct me on that. That said, I'm not sure the anime would exploit such a weaksauce loophole. I mean if that were the case he could just summon a Link-4 monster using Encode and Decode Talker.
Anyway, the point of this card was obviously to make Ignis disappear as well.It's not: I checked the card's effect on the Wikia, there's nothing preventing the affected monsters from being Tributed or used as materials. Unfortunately, "Fire Prison" is currently preventing the Link Summon of monsters below LINK-3, and Beltlink Wall Dragon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Beltlink_Wall_Dragon)'s effect would prevent a Link Summon (it has 3 Wall Counters at the moment). Since the preview showed "Varreload Dragon", I can only assume the following will happen:
Playmaker is unable to do anything, so he ends his turn (possibly setting some cards to mitigate the damage);
Revolver Link Summons Varreload to inflict high damage;
Now that Beltlink has 5 counters, Playmaker Link Summons "Firewall Dragon" using Encode and Decode, so the prison is destroyed by its own effect.
Blueknight78
2017-07-20, 16:21
Skills are part of a Speed Duel, this is a Master Duel.
well like i told in previous post, still a little annoying and make less sense for it to be "speed duel only" because before playmaker meet ignis speed duel was denied/forbbiden/forgotten/ignored, then most of the peoples where not supposed to have yet a skill, specially the champion guy(forget his name), he never had any duel and we see he barelly learning how to "surf" to be able to speed duel, then how he get his skills???, why now everyone have one???, this means which when you become a duelist you get one automatically???, if yes, then why playmaker never had one???, that part look a little "too cheap" and not proper explained.
well like i told in previous post, still a little annoying and make less sense for it to be "speed duel only" because before playmaker meet ignis speed duel was denied/forbbiden/forgotten/ignored, then most of the peoples where not supposed to have yet a skill, specially the champion guy(forget his name), he never had any duel and we see he barelly learning how to "surf" to be able to speed duel, then how he get his skills???, why now everyone have one???, this means which when you become a duelist you get one automatically???, if yes, then why playmaker never had one???, that part look a little "too cheap" and not proper explained.
The Speed Duel is just a reference for their mobage Duel Links, even the rulings is exact same(including skills) bar extra monster zone. So, don't take the explanation seriously and treat it like Turbo duel and Action Duel like in 5D's and ARC-V.
Blueknight78
2017-07-20, 18:50
The Speed Duel is just a reference for their mobage Duel Links, even the rulings is exact same(including skills) bar extra monster zone. So, don't take the explanation seriously and treat it like Turbo duel and Action Duel like in 5D's and ARC-V.
hmm thanks, it's really sounded as if "speed duel" and "normal duels where 2 different things, because as i told, the speed duel initially was denied (at last that one where they have to ride and could do only the "regular duel and the 2 sounded as 2 different type of duels and with "master duels" we could had 3 types of duel
the let me see if i get it right, we have only 2 types, one is the speed who can be riding or notand using of skills or and a "master" where you can't ride and skills are not allowed? and is more like just classical style using only in game cards?
The Speed Duel is just a reference for their mobage Duel Links, even the rulings is exact same(including skills) bar extra monster zone. So, don't take the explanation seriously and treat it like Turbo duel and Action Duel like in 5D's and ARC-V.
The Extra Monster Zone is part of Master Rule 4 and has nothing to do with whether it's a Master Duel or a Speed Duel. The concept of a Speed Duel also predates Duel Links. XD
the let me see if i get it right, we have only 2 types, one is the speed who can be riding or notand using of skills or and a "master" where you can't ride and skills are not allowed? and is more like just classical style using only in game cards?
You're thinking about this too much. How they obtain their skills really isn't important. Duelists in Speed Duels have a skill they can use once, and different duelists have different skills. There's nothing more to it than that.
Great Episode. We also got lot of backstory and plot in this episode. The animation of Firewall Dragon is pretty good also. Also, looks like the duel will end on next episode. I'm still having a hard time guessing what will happen once the duel end tbh.
You know, we're at episode 11, and this really does feel like a proper boss battle already. There is a fair amount at stake (although not quite the fate of the entire world, it's still early on) and both sides feel very powerful.
Also, I suddenly realised something.
When control changes for a monster in the Extra Monster Zone... Logic would assume that monster would go to the opponent's Main Monster Zone, since the Extra Monster Zone is only for monsters that come directly from the Extra Deck. This is also evident since Playmaker's card effect was able to destroy Firewall Dragon.
So... If control ever goes back to the original owner (for example, as per Brain Control), that would mean the monster would be placed in their Main Monster Zone, since those rules apply as well.
These rules around the Extra Monster Zone are kind of interesting.
I mean, what if there is this weird scenario where control goes back to the original owner, but they have no available monster zones? There's a rule on that right, does it go to the graveyard?
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-07-26, 10:28
Aside from the duel still being as intense as the last episode, now we have a strong reason why Yusaku keep doing his "3 reasons"-thing. It's a guidance by the mysterious person that's so very etched in Yusaku's psyche since childhood. It's not a character quirk that came outta nowhere. I like this approach.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-26, 14:27
This is an intense duel with single turns taking for freaking ever. That being said I remember why Yugioh annoys me. These guys have like freaking perfect counters to everything
None of these plays are anything like the real game. But anime characters have enough luck that they don't actually need deck search.
Wandering Soul
2017-07-26, 17:53
I wasn't expecting them to actually explain Yusaku's 3 reasons quirk, but they did and it was neatly tied into his backstory. I like the way it was handled.
The duel ends next episode and I'm still not sure how it will end. I don't think he'll lost Ignis just yet, so I don't see Yusaku losing. It seems early for him to defeat one of the strongest hanoi knights though, so I'm not sure he'll win. I guess the duel could be interrupted, but that leaves Aoi in an unfortunate position.
Blueknight78
2017-07-26, 17:54
Aside from the duel still being as intense as the last episode, now we have a strong reason why Yusaku keep doing his "3 reasons"-thing. It's a guidance by the mysterious person that's so very etched in Yusaku's psyche since childhood. It's not a character quirk that came outta nowhere. I like this approach.
where it was explained, cuz looks like i missed it on this episode, need to watch it again.
well really the big problem for me as others pointed on this serie is being the too fast battles, like with 2 turns everyone already on close to death and the "super lucky" of the "perfect card aways come" in the perfect time, is also annoying the "perfect timing to draw the right card, well it's a anime and need some climax and bla bla bla but still looks annoying and bad at last for me.
well i really hope now this duel will end in next episode, cuz it's like 3 or 4 episodes already with they battles it's almost like a final boss battle and revolver is just the "first boss".
where it was explained, cuz looks like i missed it on this episode, need to watch it again.
well really the big problem for me as others pointed on this serie is being the too fast battles, like with 2 turns everyone already on close to death and the "super lucky" of the "perfect card aways come" in the perfect time, is also annoying the "perfect timing to draw the right card, well it's a anime and need some climax and bla bla bla but still looks annoying and bad at last for me.
well i really hope now this duel will end in next episode, cuz it's like 3 or 4 episodes already with they battles it's almost like a final boss battle and revolver is just the "first boss".
The real game match nowadays usually end in 2-3 turns and that's 8,000 LP game. Duel in Anime is actually very slow. :heh:
Wandering Soul
2017-07-26, 18:38
where it was explained, cuz looks like i missed it on this episode, need to watch it again.
When Yusaku was knocked down by Revolver, he had a flashback to when he was a kid. In that flashback, right when he was about to give up on everything he hears a voice telling to think of 3 reasons to live, 3 reasons to go home, and 3 ways he can defeat the enemy. That voice encourages him to always think and is responsible for Yusaku's 3 reason quirk.
Blueknight78
2017-07-26, 19:16
The real game match nowadays usually end in 2-3 turns and that's 8,000 LP game. Duel in Anime is actually very slow. :heh:
that is why i stopped to try to play gamecards like magic and yu-gi-oh, i'm really not too much fan of that "insane fast games" with OP broken cards and combos.
well the only reason anime is slow because they took almost half of a episode in a single turn, making the battle looks like too long but in truth overal it's take at best like 3 to 4 turns(for both sides in total 8), for what i saw in overal so far things don't go too far from 3 third turn which is where normally the mc pull the winning move/card, that is why i feel weird when watch matchs from that games, because the game itself goes insanse too fast and anime try to make it looks like "too long" by making the turns taking forever to ending, that is why normally in anime battle i honestly prefer vanguard cuz is almost impossible for someone to win with less than 4 turns at last in anime and the battle can easy reach to 6 or more turns, this give me a better "smooth" battle than a insane 2 or 3 turns battle at last for me.
when i was young my favorite card game was the died spellfire, i tred magic but i feel it was really too crazy and full of "shade cards", where sometimes a useless card could become op, just because the description was too vague and when at the beginner looked to weak later become too op hax and also forcing player to aways have to buy the "new edition" because old edition become too dated and no more valid on tournaments and things like that make me don't want to keep playing.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-07-26, 20:37
None of these plays are anything like the real game. But anime characters have enough luck that they don't actually need deck search.
That's my point it's like my hands 9 games out of 10 are ass.
The real game match nowadays usually end in 2-3 turns and that's 8,000 LP game. Duel in Anime is actually very slow. :heh:
That's horrfiying.
I wasn't expecting them to actually explain Yusaku's 3 reasons quirk, but they did and it was neatly tied into his backstory. I like the way it was handled.
The duel ends next episode and I'm still not sure how it will end. I don't think he'll lost Ignis just yet, so I don't see Yusaku losing. It seems early for him to defeat one of the strongest hanoi knights though, so I'm not sure he'll win. I guess the duel could be interrupted, but that leaves Aoi in an unfortunate position.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that's Ignis or Revolver who acted as the voice.
I see it ending in a draw and Revolver giving him Aoi's data back to tie it up neatly.
The other possibility is that Revolver might be on the verge of winning, only for Ghost Girl to join the duel and for the two of them together to turn the tide. That way, Yusaku would 'win,' but he wouldn't really beat Revolver.
magnumcyclonex
2017-07-26, 21:53
Splendid episode! I'm not really sold on the 3 reasons backstory. It's still a quirky thing to have and apply it to even normal life. But, since they gave us the backstory, then I'll accept it as part of his character design.
The duel was great. Lots of recovery after field wipes and Ignis being explained. Truth be told, this is the umpteenth time AI with free will has appeared in TV/manga/movies/anime etc. It's not an original concept anymore. Still, given the premise of this Yu Gi Oh series, then I'll accept it as well, otherwise what else do we have to go by? (Doraemon the futuristic robot cat being all a dream?)
Also loved the analysis the girl made when she was granted the portal. Lots and lots of story in this episode so I really liked it. Looking forward to next week's episode and more. Hopefully Revolver will stay as a "boss" and come back again (this is assuming he "loses").
BPD Renegade
2017-07-26, 22:12
So the 3-count quirk wasn't actually a randomly thrown-in character quirk but a survival method. I like this development.
The real game match nowadays usually end in 2-3 turns and that's 8,000 LP game. Duel in Anime is actually very slow. :heh:Wow, is that in tournament decks or in all formats? :uhoh:
that is why i stopped to try to play gamecards like magic and yu-gi-oh, i'm really not too much fan of that "insane fast games" with OP broken cards and combos.when i was young my favorite card game was the died spellfire, i tred magic but i feel it was really too crazy and full of "shade cards", where sometimes a useless card could become op, just because the description was too vague and when at the beginner looked to weak later become too op hax and also forcing player to aways have to buy the "new edition" because old edition become too dated and no more valid on tournaments and things like that make me don't want to keep playing.That's why there are different formats. If you don't want to play rounds that last only a couple turns (or spend hundreds of dollars on pieces of cardboard), stay away from Vintage and Legacy (and probably Standard if you have a problem with buying new cards) and look towards Modern, Commander, or casual. As for cards looking weak at first, it all really depends on how you use the card and what type of deck you're playing. I have a madness deck half made up of two-cent commons that would suck without enablers but are downright brutal when used in the right combo. My friend was so pissed when it took down his Abzan deck full of rares and mythics. :heh:
Honestly, brewing up a deck from cheap or overlooked cards is one of the best parts of TCGs. In my play group, no one ever feels the need to buy the "new edition" of anything. All you really need is the creativity to think up of a fun idea and a good group of friends to play with.
I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh IRL, but I imagine it would be the same. Then again, with what Marina said... :eyebrow:
magnumcyclonex
2017-07-26, 22:41
So the 3-count quirk wasn't actually a randomly thrown-in character quirk but a survival method. I like this development.
Wow, is that in tournament decks or in all formats? :uhoh:
That's why there are different formats. If you don't want to play rounds that last only a couple turns (or spend hundreds of dollars on pieces of cardboard), stay away from Vintage and Legacy (and probably Standard if you have a problem with buying new cards) and look towards Modern, Commander, or casual. As for cards looking weak at first, it all really depends on how you use the card and what type of deck you're playing. I have a madness deck half made up of two-cent commons that would suck without enablers but are downright brutal when used in the right combo. My friend was so pissed when it took down his Abzan deck full of rares and mythics. :heh:
Honestly, brewing up a deck from cheap or overlooked cards is one of the best parts of TCGs. In my play group, no one ever feels the need to buy the "new edition" of anything. All you really need is the creativity to think up of a fun idea and a good group of friends to play with.
I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh IRL, but I imagine it would be the same. Then again, with what Marina said... :eyebrow:
I played Yu Gi Oh about 6 months after the first sets and starter decks launched. This was during college and back then it was a lot of fun coming up creative deck ideas from the limited card pool of the time.
The game for me was my hobby and outlet amidst the stress of being in college. It also served as a deterrent from my studies and my social life but that's for a different topic.
Anyways, I played for just over a decade. I played in locals, regionals, Shonen Jump Championships (back when they were still called that), and even judged U.S. Nationals for 2 years at one point. Looking back, it was a huge money pit. The need to always acquire new cards to assemble new decks to keep up competitively is what burns the hole in the pocket. But after several years of assembling cards and decks, I can still take out an old deck and play its own style against modern decks, just with an ever decreasing win/loss ratio. The thing about a game that has been running for this long is that when one stops buying in to keep up, time stops for that player. They are "trapped" in a time frame of when they last played and remained competitive.
The other issue with playing a card game is the need to having a group of friends to play with. I'm all grown up now with a full time job and was the last of my similarly aged friends to hang on to this game. All of them have quit and moved on, or they moved on with their lives. I'd feel very out of place going to a local card shop to play with the kids/teenagers/college students of today because I'd have nothing much in common with them and their modern decks would probably trump my obsolete ones in rapid fashion.
So what did I do? I eventually stopped playing and accepted the time frame I put myself in. I keep up with the anime and new card releases because I still like the game, but I've picked up other social interests and hobbies since, which I opt to devote my time to and prioritize over a card game.
BPD Renegade
2017-07-26, 23:51
I played Yu Gi Oh about 6 months after the first sets and starter decks launched. This was during college and back then it was a lot of fun coming up creative deck ideas from the limited card pool of the time.
The game for me was my hobby and outlet amidst the stress of being in college. It also served as a deterrent from my studies and my social life but that's for a different topic.
Anyways, I played for just over a decade. I played in locals, regionals, Shonen Jump Championships (back when they were still called that), and even judged U.S. Nationals for 2 years at one point. Looking back, it was a huge money pit. The need to always acquire new cards to assemble new decks to keep up competitively is what burns the hole in the pocket. But after several years of assembling cards and decks, I can still take out an old deck and play its own style against modern decks, just with an ever decreasing win/loss ratio. The thing about a game that has been running for this long is that when one stops buying in to keep up, time stops for that player. They are "trapped" in a time frame of when they last played and remained competitive.
The other issue with playing a card game is the need to having a group of friends to play with. I'm all grown up now with a full time job and was the last of my similarly aged friends to hang on to this game. All of them have quit and moved on, or they moved on with their lives. I'd feel very out of place going to a local card shop to play with the kids/teenagers/college students of today because I'd have nothing much in common with them and their modern decks would probably trump my obsolete ones in rapid fashion.
So what did I do? I eventually stopped playing and accepted the time frame I put myself in. I keep up with the anime and new card releases because I still like the game, but I've picked up other social interests and hobbies since, which I opt to devote my time to and prioritize over a card game.A play group is probably the biggest hurdle for people. In that regard, I'm fortunate enough to be in academia, so while the members may change from year to year, there are always grad students, post-docs, or young professors and their S.O.s who are interested in playing all sorts of games to socialize and de-stress. Some of the old grad students who get jobs in the area even drop by now and then for a few games (as well as the occasional undergraduate who wanders in wondering what the hell their instructors are doing after lab hours, but they usually run away when we invite them for a round ;)).
It's never been a big money pit for any of us though. A big part of how much money or effort is spent is the level of competitiveness. Most of the time we're all too busy or exhausted with research and teaching to be highly competitive, so we just pick and choose whatever older sets or mechanics we want to build around on a whim, and for the most part that works out. Sure, winning is nice, but we're the type of people who prefer a nice laugh at some quirky board state from some oddball decks than winning with some boring tournament netdecks. And for the most part, we only play while we wait for enough people to trickle in for actual board games, so we might go months without any matches being played. It's very much on a back-burner.
But my point is that younger kids needn't be intimidated by things like having the newest cards or the edgiest new combos. All they really need is the right crowd and attitude and even a pile of bulk cards can be fun. Just avoid being "that guy" who starts the arms race and screws it all up.
rladls2121
2017-07-27, 00:07
I am not fan of Link Summons, I like Pendulum Summons better.
The episode really seemed cool though.
So Yusaku's "Hitosu, "Whootatsu", and "Mitsu" things has been taught by someone.
Yuma's father taught Yuma about "Kattobingu".
Yuya's father taught Yuya about "Egao".
I don't know if Yusei even learned of "Kizuna" from his father, Yusei's father is rather too harsh on Yusei though.
tuckersister
2017-07-27, 04:23
Yusaku VS Revolver duel will end in a draw.
That's my point it's like my hands 9 games out of 10 are ass.
Yes, that's why real decks have like a handful of cards that are part of your scheme, everything else is just tributes/materials, deck search, card draws and other "deck thinners".
Eisdrache
2017-07-27, 17:52
That's why there are different formats. If you don't want to play rounds that last only a couple turns (or spend hundreds of dollars on pieces of cardboard), stay away from Vintage and Legacy (and probably Standard if you have a problem with buying new cards) and look towards Modern, Commander, or casual. As for cards looking weak at first, it all really depends on how you use the card and what type of deck you're playing. I have a madness deck half made up of two-cent commons that would suck without enablers but are downright brutal when used in the right combo. My friend was so pissed when it took down his Abzan deck full of rares and mythics. :heh:
I haven't played for at least a decade so I don't know any changes that occurred during that period but back then the BY FAR most expensive format was T2/standard due to the need of getting the new legal card every time a new set came out. T1.5/T1 were fairly cheap compared since once had a decent stock of cards you had to update at a far slower pace after you took the admittedly fairly high entry cost. Or just play Ichorid lol.
Now there are so many new mechanics and expansions that I have kinda lost track of it all. Recently they had some mishaps like overlooking at 2card infinite in standard :rolleyes: but it's still better than any other competitor. Do games in YGO really end in 2~3 turns? That's pretty retarded in my opinion.
Personally I'd say retarded is a bit of an overstatement. Games end in 2-3 turns, usually not by life points or win conditions, but rather by one side conceding. It becomes fairly apparent early on how things are going to play out, which is why games end fast.
Blueknight78
2017-07-28, 10:17
Personally I'd say retarded is a bit of an overstatement. Games end in 2-3 turns, usually not by life points or win conditions, but rather by one side conceding. It becomes fairly apparent early on how things are going to play out, which is why games end fast.
well normally this happen for 2 most common reason:
1 - bad luck hand, draw really, really bad cards which don't allow you to play your awesome combo or even not able to summon good monsters and the other side being able to play his "best cards"
2 - the other side perfect op combo come on his first hand and draw cards, making like option 1, the other side just give up because he already accepted which he can't break that combo in a short time and "keep playing is a waste of time" and just delaying his defeat.
normally that are the 2 most common reasons for games ending one side concending, because in the end he feel which he don't have any chance against the other side or by having bad lucky or by the other side having perfect lucky or a overpowering combo which he can't counter or the counter take too much to come.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-02, 10:48
The battle has come to an end and I for one am incredibly disappointed by it. however for a data drop it was very good and there's a lot to go on.
magnumcyclonex
2017-08-02, 10:49
So episode 12 dropped earlier today. How did I guess there would be a special draw and a second attack to conclude the duel?
Still, a lot of good back and forth action and placement of cards on the field. We also get a glimpse of how some of these characters are tied to each other with the incident.
Oh, and loved the post duel scenes. There's more plot happening than I can remember this early on in previous Yu-Gi-Oh series. Finally, it was quite spectacular what Ignis could do or actually look like.
Define "special draw". I mean do you mean like the whole "This whole duel rides on this one draw", and then drawing exactly the right card by plot convenience, or using some actual power? I'm fairly sure it's the former.
i get special draws all the time when i play card games that is kind of like just the card i need to win. Not every game, but certainly more games than I am losing. It's not that bad.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-02, 12:17
Yeah, "special draw" as in: drawing one card that can save your life(points) from the brink of zero-death and also helps mounting a counterattack that will lead to your win happens quite often. It happened to me more than a dozen times when I played YGO games in GBA alone (not including other consols & media). If you compose your deck properly and filled it with the cards that you really need, you can have your own "special draw" with just a little sprinkle of luck.
Anyway, this is yet another great episode. Great back and forth strategy, great plot-drops, and they didn't overplay the drama between Akira & Aoi. They showed us just enough and then moved on to another part, namely: Ignis hilariously regained his body to Yusaku & Kusanagi's dis-amusement :heh:.
Next episode: Ema & Kusanagi meet! Will Ema be sharp enough to notice Yusaku & Kusanagi's secret? We'll see.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-02, 13:40
Still, a lot of good back and forth action and placement of cards on the field. We also get a glimpse of how some of these characters are tied to each other with the incident.
Oh, and loved the post duel scenes. There's more plot happening than I can remember this early on in previous Yu-Gi-Oh series. Finally, it was quite spectacular what Ignis could do or actually look like.
I called Revolver being the voice last week and he seems to have confirmed it. There was no surprise for me also that SOL was involved.
As for the plot points The original Yugioh and 5D's both had more plot and Zexal is about equal.
By the way we saw Ignis's true body in episode one.
Yeah, "special draw" as in: drawing one card that can save your life(points) from the brink of zero-death and also helps mounting a counterattack that will lead to your win happens quite often. It happened to me more than a dozen times when I played YGO games in GBA alone (not including other consols & media). If you compose your deck properly and filled it with the cards that you really need, you can have your own "special draw" with just a little sprinkle of luck.
Anyway, this is yet another great episode. Great back and forth strategy, great plot-drops, and they didn't overplay the drama between Akira & Aoi. They showed us just enough and then moved on to another part, namely: Ignis hilariously regained his body to Yusaku & Kusanagi's dis-amusement :heh:.
Next episode: Ema & Kusanagi meet! Will Ema be sharp enough to notice Yusaku & Kusanagi's secret? We'll see.
Wouldn't surprise me if Ema already knows his identity and that's why she's going there.
rladls2121
2017-08-02, 14:53
Irony, those three chess pieces thinks they are the ones who are pulling the strings of the situation, who knows they might be the pawn themselves.
I dont like how they just fire Akira like that.
And Akira was working so hard for the company, though his motivation is for Aoi.
Chess pieces known Akira hiding the identity of Blue Angel and Akira just found out something unexpected of SOL Technology and yet chess pieces dont want themselves to be exposed like the but still wanting to possess all of Akira's and Husaku's information, how unfair.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-02, 18:56
And Akira was working so hard for the company, though his motivation is for Aoi.
Chess pieces known Akira hiding the identity of Blue Angel and Akira just found out something unexpected of SOL Technology and yet chess pieces dont want themselves to be exposed like the but still wanting to possess all of Akira's and Husaku's information, how unfair.
It makes perfect sense to me. Let's face it for all we know as bad as the knights are SOL could be worse. Kinda like Aether Paradise and Team Skull from the last Pokemon games. This is only episode 12 things are just getting started
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-02, 20:18
So, is next episode's gonna be a Recap? I mean, it sounds like a recap coz other than Ema buying Kusanagi's hot dog, we're gonna spend the entire episode with Yusa-Kusa analyzing Ignis' data and Ema doing an interview where she talks about the KoH. If true, I'll probably just fast-forward it straight to Ema's meeting with Kusanagi.
Blueknight78
2017-08-02, 20:54
So, is next episode's gonna be a Recap? I mean, it sounds like a recap coz other than Ema buying Kusanagi's hot dog, we're gonna spend the entire episode with Yusa-Kusa analyzing Ignis' data and Ema doing an interview where she talks about the KoH. If true, I'll probably just fast-forward it straight to Ema's meeting with Kusanagi.
i think this episode will be more like the "calm before the storm", a setup episode or aftermatch, after we had like 5 episodes of pure battle then now we get some "relax episode".
wow finally the fight is over and goes almost as how i was predictating with yusako wining, but revolver like you typical "rival" was able to run away only making looks like the big threat is not the hanoi knights which they are your typical "extremist group" want combat the "true evil" fighting evil with evil and looks like he is connected with who was the one which brainwashed the mc to do that 3 things all the times.
i think this episode will be more like the "calm before the storm", a setup episode or aftermatch, after we had like 5 episodes of pure battle then now we get some "relax episode".
wow finally the fight is over and goes almost as how i was predictating with yusako wining, but revolver like you typical "rival" was able to run away only making looks like the big threat is not the hanoi knights which they are your typical "extremist group" want combat the "true evil" fighting evil with evil and looks like he is connected with who was the one which brainwashed the mc to do that 3 things all the times.well without spoil acording to episode 16 title it is indeed the calm before the storm with mark on storm
You say "without spoil" and then you proceed to spoil. It's nothing major, but I'd like to point out that your statement is objectively false.
You say "without spoil" and then you proceed to spoil. It's nothing major, but I'd like to point out that your statement is objectively false.i didnt know that a wild guess based on title can be considered a spoiler
It's nothing major. Don't worry about it. It's a bit of a grey area sometimes.
bleh, it's a recap. the scene with ghost girl getting food is right in the beginning so you can prob ff after that.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-09, 07:44
I knew it. it's a recap. But the part with the reporters is quite funny though.
It wasn't a complete waste of time but I do wonder why they're doing a clip show episode after just 1 arc and 4 duels?
Fairy Water
2017-08-09, 08:52
Yusaku deletes the video at the end is really savage :heh:
It's not a bad recap so I will forgive the director. Hope next arc is even better.
rladls2121
2017-08-09, 12:04
The journalists sure lost a lot of their money.
They should not give up though, at least the informations the Ghost Girl is real.
They can just look into something like the incident from ten years ago and about SOL Technology.
Carly ended up her laptop broken, i wonder which one is worse.
At most, the way she lost her data was so stupid, and she received those valuable informations for free.
I wonder why is it Yusaku looks like he thinks AIs having will of its own is a bad thing?
Maybe Ignis, other AIs, and Cyverse monster have hatred against Hanoi Knights since then.
Hatred as much as Yusaku.
One more thing, i wish for a better MC in this series.
Even in Zexal, Mr Heartland as a MC was way better the one in Vrains.
I was expecting a cute girl one since it is the world of Link Vrains.
I actually like Nico Smiley as the MC than the MC from 5d's.
Stark700
2017-08-16, 07:07
I'm kinda curious about Ghost Girl's Altergeist deck. Never heard of it before until today. I mean, the way she smarmed the field and then used impressive counter strategies from her HAND is rather impressive.
I did notice that some of the monsters she's running doesn't have impressive attack but make it up with powerful effects
the new director is actully did good job in this episode new link animation
Fairy Water
2017-08-16, 10:40
Is it just me or the art quality is dropped terribly? It looks really weird tbh.
The duel is really nice though. Finally an opponent that makes use of trap cards. Emma's battle style is freakin scary just as her hacking skill, she calculated carefully every step she made.
Btw I low-key ship them in this ep lol the joke on Ignis is so funny :heh:
Ghost girl: Why does everyone want this dumb AI?
Ignis: What?
Playmaker: Don't get angry when she's telling the truth.
Ignis: Ok... Wait, what?
Wandering Soul
2017-08-16, 15:46
^Yeah, everyone throwing shade at Ignis is always great.
rladls2121
2017-08-16, 16:48
I really like the Sound Duel background music that played towards before the ending.
I really like the Sound Duel background music that played towards before the ending.yes the new director did pretty good job considering it his very first yugioh episode
rladls2121
2017-08-16, 18:18
I was keeping this to myself before since Ema's debut in episode 3.
I have a feeling that there will be a love triangle between Kusanogi, Akira, and Ema.
Since Akira was demoted, Ema rather told him directly that she does not have interest in him since he is not rich.
And of course for Kusanagi he is at seems he is obviously not, though he is just using his hot dogs as a disguise, who knows.
Really, SOL Technology was rather "kind" enough to not completely fire Akira, but to demote him.
I guess Akira is not out of the plot just yet.
Akira wants to know its secrets, and I can't believe main heroine's big brother has more involvement of the plot.
But now somehow I think Go Onizuka and Aoi are out of the plot for now.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-16, 18:34
This should be interesting moving forward and her strategy is impressive. There's far more to come though
rladls2121
2017-08-16, 21:15
This is off topic.
Does anyone know a person named Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO?
I think he said he is scared of AIs because it is dangerous and AIs can be smarter than the smart people.
Made me wonder about how Yusaku worries of what is going to happen if an AI have a will of its own.
Revolver and his father are clearly afraid of what would AIs and Cyverse monsters would do if things are left as it is.
It made me curious what of AIs are going to be at the end of this series.
This is off topic.
Does anyone know a person named Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO?
I think he said he is scared of AIs because it is dangerous and AIs can be smarter than the smart people.
Made me wonder about how Yusaku worries of what is going to happen if an AI have a will of its own.
Revolver and his father are clearly afraid of what would AIs and Cyverse monsters would do if things are left as it is.
It made me curious what of AIs are going to be at the end of this series.
He's worried about AIs because they might kill more jobs than they create which is probably true. I don't think it's very applicable here.
magnumcyclonex
2017-08-16, 23:35
One thing I really appreciated with this episode was the Link Summon animation. It's so much more smoother and fluid compared to Yusaku's.
Anybody ever wondering why SOL CEO's always depicted in chess form?
I have feeling SOL CEO's themselves actually are AI.
I thing Ghost Girl is a much more appropriate waifu than Blue Angel.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-23, 09:31
Well the episode just aired and i find myself intrigued and disappointed at the same time. Oh well that's pretty much how this show is
I will not lie, I do love it when people keep piling on the whole "I prevent what you're doing" chains. At the same time it's all so ludicrously convenient considering no one in this show actually uses deck search.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-23, 15:17
I will not lie, I do love it when people keep piling on the whole "I prevent what you're doing" chains. At the same time it's all so ludicrously convenient considering no one in this show actually uses deck search.
Yea but at the same time it makes playing the game seem so freaking easy it's a total buzzkill
Fairy Water
2017-08-24, 01:21
I must say I feel a lot of plot conveniences in this duel which Ghost Girl being extra careful with every Playmaker's move yet still lost cause he somehow prepared a bunch of new cards that will work against Ghost Girl's deck.
One could say Yusaku is an innovative type that can do anything with what he has at the moment but I kinda feel bitter with this duel, Ema is really good and I think she can even be better duelist than Blue Angel and Go but this probably the first and the last time we see Ema playing.
While I really want to ship the two of them but Yusaku looks like he doesn't interested in love or girls so yeah, probably like the ending sequence with him end up alone on the road see the new sunrise. :heh:
Wow, tsuki ga kirei. Such feelings of lavu.
She doesn't make that bad of a waifu either.
While I really want to ship the two of them but Yusaku looks like he doesn't interested in love or girls so yeah, probably like the ending sequence with him end up alone on the road see the new sunrise. :heh:
What i wouldn't give for a "grown up" yugioh show.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-24, 04:00
Uh, what is the age-gap between Ema & Yusaku, again?
It reminds me of another young MC who hooked up with a fine badass older woman (who also named Ema) in Garo anime. And it’s better because they actually consummated their love.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-24, 06:00
What i wouldn't give for a "grown up" yugioh show.
Yea i don't think so. The love storylines have been tried constantly in Yugioh over the years and the only time it worked was in 5Ds IMO. The original failed miserably. GX it didn't work at all. Zexal they tried it but it was one of those that just plain felt awkward. (I haven't seen ARC-V so i can't speak to that one)
Blueknight78
2017-08-24, 09:16
Yea i don't think so. The love storylines have been tried constantly in Yugioh over the years and the only time it worked was in 5Ds IMO. The original failed miserably. GX it didn't work at all. Zexal they tried it but it was one of those that just plain felt awkward. (I haven't seen ARC-V so i can't speak to that one)
why zexxal was "awkawrd???, for what i remember was the "classic old shounen" style, with mc hooking around with the girl and carrying her to every place, arc-v was almost like zexxal, the difference is which instead of only in the end, the mc realized his feelings in middle of the serie when the classic "girl kidnap" happen and he realize which he can't live without her then get all screwed and goes desperated looking for her all around universes, the girl was basically mc motivation in the second half of the serie, was him desperated looking for her for almost all of the second half and only getting her really, really at the end like in the last 10 to 5s :heh::heh::heh::heh:, a horrible and most rushed ending in anime history ever :heh::heh::heh:
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-24, 10:04
The original failed miserably.How can you say that? Yes, we have anime-only filler with the AnzuxAtem date and Rebecca as Yugi Mutou's anime-only love interest, but those went well for what they intended. The date episode and other anime-only episodes where Anzu & Atem shared moments together made Anzu's final goodbye to Atem more heartbreaking (especially the part involving the kartush necklace that Anzu bought for Atem), and Rebecca is a good love interest for Yugi since Anzu will only be romantically-interested in Atem.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2017-08-24, 11:21
Wow, 15 episodes in and we're making ships already? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's a new record in how fast the main material for a Yugioh series to have gone stale.
Blueknight78
2017-08-24, 11:56
How can you say that? Yes, we have anime-only filler with the AnzuxAtem date and Rebecca as Yugi Mutou's anime-only love interest, but those went well for what they intended. The date episode and other anime-only episodes where Anzu & Atem shared moments together made Anzu's final goodbye to Atem more heartbreaking (especially the part involving the kartush necklace that Anzu bought for Atem), and Rebecca is a good love interest for Yugi since Anzu will only be romantically-interested in Atem.
i think he means they never passed the "friendzone", or be only friends/rival forever, while they had "potential" this never was really explored first yu-gi-oh really had a almost 0 romance compared with others yu-gi-oh, like the romance was getting less bad, like in gx where we had a "real one side(the girl since judai only have eyes for card game and his creep yandere card)" romance near the end, then in 5d we get something, then in zexxal was more the typical "childshi romance", then in arc-v was the friend until you lost and realize which you love what you lost), then now again yusaku looks more like judai and only have eyes/obssesion for his "revenge" and his "3 things" and girls probably develop little crush on him while he is totally oblivion to it, i really feel like being or classic yu-gi-oh with almost no romance or a gx with only "one side".
Wandering Soul
2017-08-24, 12:27
Wow, 15 episodes in and we're making ships already? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's a new record in how fast the main material for a Yugioh series to have gone stale.
You think this is early? I've seen people make ships based on character designs and nothing else before
Well the episode just aired and i find myself intrigued and disappointed at the same time. Oh well that's pretty much how this show iswell from the next episode preview i say i very intrigued what will happen
Fairy Water
2017-08-24, 13:58
Wow, 15 episodes in and we're making ships already? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's a new record in how fast the main material for a Yugioh series to have gone stale.
Are u serious? People already shipping Aoi and Yusaku by the end of ep 1 for saving her at the right moment. :eyespin:
The Yusaku and Ema ship is understandable since they share some very special moments compared to all sort of opponents Yusaku ever had before. I mean when she expressed her interest in him as a hunter, he freakkin smiled :uhoh: ikd why but it's pretty interesting, the last time he actually smiled was he finally having fun duelling with Go.
And the part "The moon is pretty tonight" confirms that Emma likes Yusaku. While even Aoi hasn't had any real interaction with him, this ship is a bit obvious.
Uh, what is the age-gap between Ema & Yusaku, again?
It reminds me of another young MC who hooked up with a fine badass older woman (who also named Ema) in Garo anime. And it’s better because they actually consummated their love.
Tbh your reference is the reason why I start watching Garo :heh:
And I was surprised how Garo's protagonist is also an emo kid lol Vrains is really kinda have same setting.
Dunno the age gap but probably won't exceed 10.
rladls2121
2017-08-24, 14:10
Really, that frog and the bird loses even more money.
Those two journalists should stay away from Yusaku and Ema.
It is like Ema wants Playmaker and Ghost Girl shipping a secret.
Yusaku also erased those scoops back in episode 13.
Arc-V did love stories fairly well by virtue of not spending more time on them than absolutely necessary.
Anyway, as far as waifus go, Blue Angel has nothing on Ghost Girl. Her dynamic with Playmaker is so much better.
I mean I don't really care either way what happens, and much prefer it if romance is kept to a minimum. I'm just saying that this works a lot better for me.
Yea i don't think so. The love storylines have been tried constantly in Yugioh over the years and the only time it worked was in 5Ds IMO. The original failed miserably. GX it didn't work at all. Zexal they tried it but it was one of those that just plain felt awkward. (I haven't seen ARC-V so i can't speak to that one)
This is completely wrong, while i agree that yugi/yami/tea was bad, joey and mai on the other hand had one hell of a romance they just couldn't admit it to each other. Their romance was realistic as hell and could actually happen in real life.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 03:31
This is completely wrong, while i agree that yugi/yami/tea was bad, joey and mai on the other hand had one hell of a romance they just couldn't admit it to each other. Their romance was realistic as hell and could actually happen in real life.Speaking of "couldn't admit it to each other", it also happened to Atem & Anzu. They knew that they'd be separated forever sooner rather than later, so they chose to never admit or express their feelings toward each other to lessen the heartbreak. Yet Anzu still can't help herself from crying when Atem was going to the realm of the dead. Their romantic relationship is meant to end painfully (or bittersweet to some people). In that case, their romance is good for what the storytellers aimed for.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-25, 10:11
This is completely wrong, while i agree that yugi/yami/tea was bad, joey and mai on the other hand had one hell of a romance they just couldn't admit it to each other. Their romance was realistic as hell and could actually happen in real life.
Joey and Mai was an absolute farce. Joey was a dimwit and Mai was a tsundere and everyone's sitting their like just fuck already.
Speaking of "couldn't admit it to each other", it also happened to Atem & Anzu. They knew that they'd be separated forever sooner rather than later, so they chose to never admit or express their feelings toward each other to lessen the heartbreak. Yet Anzu still can't help herself from crying when Atem was going to the realm of the dead. Their romantic relationship is meant to end painfully (or bittersweet to some people). In that case, their romance is good for what the storytellers aimed for.
She fell in love with a figment. Atem wasn't real but somehow she was shocked by that and even got jealous with Rebecca. That was a joke
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 10:28
She fell in love with a figment. Atem wasn't real but somehow she was shocked by that and even got jealous with Rebecca. That was a jokeAtem wasn't real? wtf? Atem might be a ghost, but he was real. He's the one who saved Anzu from a rapey pervert and other dangers pre-Duel Monster (or Season 0 in anime? IIRC). Atem exist within Yugi and she knew that. He talked to her and everything. She got jealous with Rebecca coz... well, Atem's personality shared Yugi's body and sometimes Anzu can't tell which personality is active when Rebecca is all over Yugi. Also, you can fall in love with the soul/personality of a person. That's not ridiculous or a joke. In fact, that was the surprisingly relatable theme of the antagonist in the penultimate season of Yu Yu Hakusho, one of the finest shonen animanga out there.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2017-08-25, 10:30
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo safe to say since episode 1, the series fell flat and shipping's the only thing that's keeping this thing afloat for most of the fandom? Sheesh I know Link summoning screwed up a lot for the card game meta whores but I didn't expect it'd screw up the series itself this badly^^;;.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 10:44
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo safe to say since episode 1, the series fell flat and shipping's the only thing that's keeping this thing afloat for most of the fandom? Sheesh I know Link summoning screwed up a lot for the card game meta whores but I didn't expect it'd screw up the series itself this badly^^;;.Oh no. There's a lot more interesting things in VRAINS. Way more than just shipping. A fresh sense of humor is one of them (some side characters are riots). Characters (that counts) are acting sharper than previous shows and it has this "more mature" aura overall. I don't know if the show can keep it that way or even improve it though. Oh, and the duels have been good-to-great so far (aside from recycled Link Shokan animation in the first cour). The story is also interesting.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo safe to say since episode 1, the series fell flat and shipping's the only thing that's keeping this thing afloat for most of the fandom? Sheesh I know Link summoning screwed up a lot for the card game meta whores but I didn't expect it'd screw up the series itself this badly^^;;.
....What gave you that idea?
Fairy Water
2017-08-25, 11:17
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo safe to say since episode 1, the series fell flat and shipping's the only thing that's keeping this thing afloat for most of the fandom? Sheesh I know Link summoning screwed up a lot for the card game meta whores but I didn't expect it'd screw up the series itself this badly^^;;.
Did anyone said anything about Link summon screwed up? Oh it's just you :eyespin:
If you haven't watched any episodes except ep 1 and only come here for reviews you might as well go watch the series itself before pouring more nonsense :heh:
the series fell flat and shipping's the only thing that's keeping this thing afloat for most of the fandom
This fits Arc-V really well to me. :eyespin:
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-25, 11:45
Atem wasn't real? wtf? Atem might be a ghost, but he was real. He's the one who saved Anzu from a rapey pervert and other dangers pre-Duel Monster (or Season 0 in anime? IIRC). Atem exist within Yugi and she knew that. He talked to her and everything. She got jealous with Rebecca coz... well, Atem's personality shared Yugi's body and sometimes Anzu can't tell which personality is active when Rebecca is all over Yugi. Also, you can fall in love with the soul/personality of a person. That's not ridiculous or a joke. In fact, that was the surprisingly relatable theme of the antagonist in the penultimate season of Yu Yu Hakusho, one of the finest shonen animanga out there.
You can easily tell the difference but because of anime convenience that's ignored. Give me a freaking break
Oh no. There's a lot more interesting things in VRAINS. Way more than just shipping. A fresh sense of humor is one of them (some side characters are riots). Characters (that counts) are acting sharper than previous shows and it has this "more mature" aura overall. I don't know if the show can keep it that way or even improve it though. Oh, and the duels have been good-to-great so far (aside from recycled Link Shokan animation in the first cour). The story is also interesting.
To be honest VRAINS has fallen relatively flat and the situation for the duels reflects. Go Onizuka was an idiot. Aoi was just as foolish. The duel between Revolver and Yusaku had promise but at the same time the ending stunk. Ghost girls was similar to revolvers but it was even more painful. His skill takes Dues Ex Machina to a new level.
It's early so there's still a lot more to go but this series is lackluster
I haven't watched a yugioh show since 5ds and the first episode of VRAINS didn't do anything for me. Like i said earlier i kinda wish these shows grew up with us instead of being a mainly for kids. Its funny how the "original" series tend to be more mature then all the spinoffs, im not just talking about yugioh, look at power rangers and digimon (well digimon finally did get an adult spin off).
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-25, 19:34
I haven't watched a yugioh show since 5ds and the first episode of VRAINS didn't do anything for me. Like i said earlier i kinda wish these shows grew up with us instead of being a mainly for kids. Its funny how the "original" series tend to be more mature then all the spinoffs, im not just talking about yugioh, look at power rangers and digimon (well digimon finally did get an adult spin off).
The real problem is that the first season set such a high bar that some aspects can't really be improved. Pokemon is a different story because of how much of a fuckup Ash was but with Yugioh the original did very few things truly wrong (outside of cheating their asses off for most of the series).
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 20:13
You can easily tell the difference but because of anime convenience that's ignored. Give me a freaking breakSince YGO animanga is meant for kids, there’s definitely a level of reverse Clark/Superman plot convenience in the story (nothing wrong there). Whereas in Superman comics & movies, people just can’t recognize that Clark & Supes are the same person, in YGO people just can’t tell when Atem’s personality takes over Yugi’s body except during certain situations or when Atem outright tells them. But that doesn’t ruin the essence of the romantic plot (between Atem & Anzu or Lois & Supes). If it does, the romance between Lois and Superman wouldn’t last for decades.
Also, YGO is a bit better than Superman since Yugi and Atem are physically indistinguishable in their one body in-story. Yes, both have different eyes, hairstyle and height but that’s just how the author differentiate both characters for the readers. To other characters, there’s no physical difference between Atem & Yugi when they switched personalities which makes it less ridiculous than Clark/Supes case.
To be honest VRAINS has fallen relatively flat and the situation for the duels reflects. Go Onizuka was an idiot. Aoi was just as foolish. The duel between Revolver and Yusaku had promise but at the same time the ending stunk. Ghost girls was similar to revolvers but it was even more painful. His skill takes Dues Ex Machina to a new level. That's okay. You can be honest, and I also can argue your points in a healthy discussion. So, here I go:
Go’s duel was illustrated in the show as something impulsive, brash and rather foolish. So, in a way, yes Go is an idiot but that’s the point that the show made. Playmaker and the children made him realized his foolishness. Go acting like an idiot was meant for character development.
It is obvious that the show portrayed Aoi as a girl with (severe) insecurity issues (just like how many celebrities IRL have issues). She’s hungry for her brother’s acknowledgement and she can only express herself through dueling in VRAINS as Blue Angel. Plus, her pride as a Charisma Duelist made her feel the need to challenge Playmaker and KoH used it for their advantage. KoH is a group of elite hackers so it’s understandable that they can hack into Blue Angel. Again, just like Go, all those flaws of Aoi is meant for character development. That’s like the basics of how to make a good story. You should know that.
I disagree with your point about Revolver & Playmaker. The ending of their duel is well executed. Revolver is a great duelist (arguably better than Yusaku), but he was caught off guard by Yusaku (somewhat) revealing his identity which unintentionally disrupted Revolver's focus & concentration. Personally, I think that is the only way Yusaku can win against the overwhelming power that is Revolver: a combination of his skill and non-card-related luck triggered by his conviction and resolve. Who knows, maybe after Yusaku gained more experience, he can someday defeat Revolver without disrupting his concentration by giving him a shocking reveal.
DEM has been a staple for the franchise, especially for the MC. Be grateful that VRAINS actually made Yusaku’s DEM part of the plot that can be countered by his enemies. In many other YGO shows, the enemies can’t really do anything to prevent the MC’s DEM from happening. So, VRAINS actually put a limitations to the DEM power of the MC.
It's early so there's still a lot more to go but this series is lacklusterAll opinions are fair. And I disagree with yours.
Blueknight78
2017-08-25, 21:09
Oh no. There's a lot more interesting things in VRAINS. Way more than just shipping. A fresh sense of humor is one of them (some side characters are riots). Characters (that counts) are acting sharper than previous shows and it has this "more mature" aura overall. I don't know if the show can keep it that way or even improve it though. Oh, and the duels have been good-to-great so far (aside from recycled Link Shokan animation in the first cour). The story is also interesting.
that part i honestly disagree about humor and better duel, the only "comedy" is just the reports and loosing money, yusaku 3 things is annoying and get old too fast and already a crap thing, which they give a reason but still a bad thing, and battles for me i really do hate that "too short" mc to overpowered with the perfect deck, and the "storm access" deus x machina is one of the worst in my opnion in all you-gi-oh serie i see so far, the only battle i really liked so far was the last one because it didn't last just 2 turns" like most of his battles, which are basically 2 turns full of fillers to make its looks "long".
so far vrains for me is more a "lost" than a win, due to "boring" perfect emotionless mc, i do love more funny mcs, like yuya, or judai, not "sad mcs which sad past which are forever stuck emotionless, i really don't like it.
so far i'm still holding a little more before decide to drop or no it until more episodes and the plot improve more otherwise i will drop and wait to see if things get better, because so far compared with previous yu-gi-oh animes even the more "serious matures" at last not where boring like that and the mc don't looked like a "emotionless" guy.
and honestly speaking, i feel which both yu-gi-ho original and arc-v where almost equals as being "dark and mature", while arc-v started very "shounen standart" being childsh as soon the "dimensional war plot pop up the things get really crap and yuya without any doubt hands down, was the mc to get the "worst threatment" of all yu-gi-oh and also probably must be on top 10 on general shounen of mcs to get the shit into them, i really feel like the 'childshi" was dropped and things get really dark, even near the end we also get a almost "raper" mad cientist, when i look to both i feel which they where the most dark yu-go-ho series(original and arc-v).
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 21:29
that part i honestly disagree about humor and better duel, ....I don’t know about you, but Ignis’ antics and Yusaku’s blunt/savage replies to him works for a lot of people. Just go to Youtube and Reddit to name a couple of sources.
And the duel happens faster in only few turns is one of the points of Speed Duel IIRC (please correct me if I'm wrong). If the fewer turns in Speed Duel is your complaint, that’s like complaining about football matches being too long.
Blueknight78
2017-08-25, 21:33
I don’t know about you, but Ignis’ antics and Yusaku’s blunt/savage replies to him works for a lot of people. Just go to Youtube and Reddit to name a couple of sources.
And the duel happens faster in only few turns is one of the points of Speed Duel IIRC (please correct me if I'm wrong). If the fewer turns in Speed Duel is your complaint, that’s like complaining about football matches being too long.
ops i forgout about it, yeah i will give that for you, really ignis and he are a little funny, but still not really a "big comedy" since this serie looks much more "serious", for what i understood speed duel don't means "2 turns" just means battle while "surfing" in the waves, this can take many turns as is needed, the same as it was in sincro and the duel in the bikes, it's just to add the "non sense" skill cheat and make the battle more interesting, not to make it more "short".
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 21:40
ops i forgout about it, yeah i will give that for you, really ignis and he are a little funny, but still not really a "big comedy" since this serie looks much more "serious", I said "fresh sense of humor" in my reply to MAX. That doesn't mean that I consider VRAINS a comedic or lighthearted show. There's a difference between the two.
for what i understood speed duel don't means "2 turns" just means battle while "surfing" in the waves, this can take many turns as is needed, the same as it was in sincro and the duel in the bikes, it's just to add the "non sense" skill cheat and make the battle more interesting, not to make it more "short".I'm not really familiar with the newest TCG, so those who follow or play the most recent card game might be able to answer this better.
Blueknight78
2017-08-25, 21:52
I said "fresh sense of humor" in my reply to MAX. That doesn't mean that I consider VRAINS a comedic or lighthearted show. There's a difference between the two.
I'm not really familiar with the newest TCG, so those who follow or play the most recent card game might be able to answer this better.
well if it was supposed to last only 2 or 3 turns like most of his battles, then the last one which take if i'm not wrong 4 or 5 turns, was not supposed to be played since it pas the 2 or 3 turns limits, i still prefer old yu-gi-oh duel animes, while they still OP and full of "cheat" they at last where not that insane short and in many cases takes a lot of turns like 5 or 10 to end.
the battles here for me where giving a "one punch man" feelings, the only difference is which one punch man was a parody and not supposed to take serious while yusaku no.
to be clear i'm not saying which this serie is crap, and i hate, troll or bla bla bla, but so far compared with previous serie this being a very bad at the beginner for me and if it don't improve too soon(like 5 or at best 8 episodes) i probably gonna drop until it get "better later" if it get, but so far plot and action are pretty bad for me with also a sort of mc which i really don't like too much.
about the tcg, wow if in the real card game you have a surf duel and can "cheat" with a created rule out of nowhere" then man serious the tcg become really non-sense :heh::heh::heh: and surreal.
even yusaku "non speed duel" with his nemesis" was too short, was like 3 turns, he had a 3 turns or 2 turns speed duel then jump to a non speed with more 2 or 3 turns and the worst which his "nemesis" was alreaby beaten by him with just 10 to 11 episodes i really feel like it was soo fast for him to beat the guy and almost get all he wanted if not was "plot to save the guy".
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-25, 22:10
well if it was supposed to last only 2 or 3 turns like most of his battles, then the last one which take if i'm not wrong 4 or 5 turns, was not supposed to be played since it pas the 2 or 3 turns limits, i still prefer old yu-gi-oh duel animes, while they still OP and full of "cheat" they at last where not that insane short and in many cases takes a lot of turns like 5 or 10 to end.
the battles here for me where giving a "one punch man" feelings, the only difference is which one punch man was a parody and not supposed to take serious while yusaku no.
to be clear i'm not saying which this serie is crap, and i hate, troll or bla bla bla, but so far compared with previous serie this being a very bad at the beginner for me and if it don't improve too soon(like 5 or at best 8 episodes) i probably gonna drop until it get "better later" if it get, but so far plot and action are pretty bad for me with also a sort of mc which i really don't like too much.
about the tcg, wow if in the real card game you have a surf duel and can "cheat" with a created rule out of nowhere" then man serious the tcg become really non-sense :heh::heh::heh: and surreal.
even yusaku "non speed duel" with his nemesis" was too short, was like 3 turns, he had a 3 turns or 2 turns speed duel then jump to a non speed with more 2 or 3 turns and the worst which his "nemesis" was alreaby beaten by him with just 10 to 11 episodes i really feel like it was soo fast for him to beat the guy and almost get all he wanted if not was "plot to save the guy".This is a quote from someone who actually follows the recent TCG:
The real game match nowadays usually end in 2-3 turns and that's 8,000 LP game. Duel in Anime is actually very slow. :heh:Take that as you will. Sometimes, real life is stranger than fiction. The LP in the show is just 4000. Compare them with the 8000 LP in real life.
Blueknight78
2017-08-25, 22:49
This is a quote from someone who actually follows the recent TCG:
Take that as you will. Sometimes, real life is stranger than fiction. The LP in the show is just 4000. Compare them with the 8000 LP in real life.
yeah i know which nowadays you have op combos which end game insane fast, i saw that in magic too, that is why i stopped to play it, but this happen more on non related championships and some championships. some of then have rules to prevent that like "banned" and limited cards which make the battles last a little more long, but nowadays i just pla heartstone lol, because i know no matter how op can be your combo you never be able to beat anyone with just 2 or 3 turns, or even going back to ctg animes i prefer vanguard which also no matter how op you deck is you need at last a minimum of 3 turns to beat anyone and the game easy go to 4 to 6 turns.
i really don't like too shorts plays because while for the "winner" is awesome be so op, overal the game ending feel boring and underplayed, because when you start to feel exctiment the game already over.
it's just my personnal like and that is why i stopped to play many card games because as the game evolve and insane combos started to pop up and the games started to end insane fast i started to feel really bored even when wining, because i could not enjoy proper the game since things where too fast.
at the end just because the games are ending too fast this don't means which it is a rule, just which we have insane op decks which crazy op combos which make the battles be short, not something "set on rules", just a matter of have the right op cards.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-30, 09:33
Welll this was uhhh interesting
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2017-08-30, 11:49
Watching this episode feels like watching Tron (in a good way). Also, nice to see that Blue Angel's back.
Btw, their "saving others" counters:
Playmaker: 2
Blue Angel: 2
So I guess Blue Angel makes it even (again) :D She really doesn't like owing to anybody, does she?
Blueknight78
2017-08-30, 19:04
looks like a "ship tease" episode, with yusaku "missing" blue angel, even his AI teased with him about it and ghost girl actually used playmaker to be a "distraction" for her and the big bro be able to infiltrate in the computer while everyone was looking at playmaker, what really crap system and workers which could not "detect a second" invasion, and another bad plot was the thing which break the "cable" for what i saw they had a lot of time and chance to "break it before' but "only that time was able to break" really terrible excuse, well it was good to have a "action with less duel and more non duel action at last for what it lasted, again i love duels and a anime about duels must have, but also is not necessary to have on "every episode" is good to have some non duel action sometimes.
now we have a sort of duel team blue angel and playmaker vs AIs and based on the preview looks like blue angel will "shine".
now let's see how much this "ship" will go, the bad part is the fact which while "blue angels" is hot her "real self" is :(:(:( your plain, non actractive girl compared with others yu-gi-oh females, she is really the "weakest" and i feel bad for yusaku to get a girl which is only "hot" as long she is in the virtual world :heh::heh::cool::cool:
Even though Ghost Girl is a much better match. Blue Angel is kinda flat. And I don't mean physically.
Even though Ghost Girl is a much better match. Blue Angel is kinda flat. And I don't mean physically.actully aoi is flat but her avatar blue angel has bigger ones
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-31, 08:57
actully aoi is flat but her avatar blue angel has bigger ones
Clearly she's overcompensating :D:D:D:D:D:D
Blueknight78
2017-08-31, 09:34
Even though Ghost Girl is a much better match. Blue Angel is kinda flat. And I don't mean physically.
actully aoi is flat but her avatar blue angel has bigger ones
Clearly she's overcompensating :D:D:D:D:D:D
i bet she must have complex over herself realife look based on how "cute" and hot her avatar look and how "flat" and plain(emotionless) she is in real life, what she don't have and can't do in real life she "have and do" in the virtual world.
I knew people were going to talk about her breasts despite that not being what I meant. XD So predictable.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-08-31, 18:44
i bet she must have complex over herself realife look based on how "cute" and hot her avatar look and how "flat" and plain(emotionless) she is in real life, what she don't have and can't do in real life she "have and do" in the virtual world.
I mean can you blame her. Imagine if the people in the Duel Club knew she was Blue Angel especially that guy whose always watching his screen (sorry i forgot his name)
I knew people were going to talk about her breasts despite that not being what I meant. XD So predictable.
I responded to the other comment not yours but hey whatever.
Blueknight78
2017-08-31, 19:22
I mean can you blame her. Imagine if the people in the Duel Club knew she was Blue Angel especially that guy whose always watching his screen (sorry i forgot his name)
I responded to the other comment not yours but hey whatever.
well to be honest i'm talking not just about cleavage but her really overal look and "real life personality, she does look and act very 'plan and flat like yusaku almost a "robot" almost without emotions and her "plan look"(not only boobs but overal look) also don't help since again comparing with previous main girls and even ghost girl, she does look really low attractive and "alive", this is her "real life look" while in virtual world she look and act totally different, really acting more 'happy and alive" and have a "nice body".
well, really this could kill her "fanbase" find out which they "angel" is a plain and "flat" almost emotional girl" instead of the happy and hot/cute one in the virtual world, this could break the "magic" and dreams of her fans :heh::heh::heh::heh:.
rladls2121
2017-08-31, 23:00
His name is "Shima Naoki".
I feel like Blue Angel as a persona is all very flat as well. Her name describes her persona and it feels like that's all she is. She does not really encourage me to want to learn more about her.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2017-09-01, 03:50
His name is "Shima Naoki".
Thank you
As for Aoi/Blue Angel. Frankly she's a forgettable character and even though Ghost Girl is attractive i'm thinking she has a thing for Aoi's brother.
Fairy Water
2017-09-01, 12:19
Thank you
As for Aoi/Blue Angel. Frankly she's a forgettable character and even though Ghost Girl is attractive i'm thinking she has a thing for Aoi's brother.
even though she said 'the moon is beautiful tonight' to Playmaker? :heh:
I hate to admit but Aoi/BA is getting more flat as a character, I really don't like that. She was interesting until now.
Another 3 eps and we probably won't remember who is the yellow guy in the opening anymore. :heh:
Ghost Girl is a huge flirt, being the femme fatale archetype and everything. So she can easily be mistaken to be showing affection for pretty much anyone.
tuckersister
2017-09-01, 21:50
I wish some of the classic Duel Monsters cards make a comeback, like Exodia or Obelisk.
I like aoi. The problem is that she was basically non existent for the last 4 (or more) episodes or something.
rladls2121
2017-09-01, 23:13
Go Onizuka, Zaizen Aoi, and "Shima Naoki".
They all should have seen Revolver dueling Playmaker.
I don't understand why Naoki can't go inside Vrains, and just watch the duels through a small screen.
He just missed over 5 episodes just because Yusaku and Ema deleted the traces of those episodes and cost the reporters of their money.
..Because he feels he doesn't square up to any of the duelists who do go inside Link VRAINS? I thought they made that fairly clear.
Fairy Water
2017-09-02, 14:18
Ghost Girl is a huge flirt, being the femme fatale archetype and everything. So she can easily be mistaken to be showing affection for pretty much anyone.
https://i.imgur.com/97ENDo4_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
:rolleyes:
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