Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e

[Liselotte-sama]

What does having mentally better abilities mean? As in socializing or what? Horikita is way smarter than Karuizawa, at least what I've seen in the anime confirms that, so I can't really understand how she can be more useful. :/ Also, I hope author starts focusing more on Sakayanagi as well.

[Cinnamon]

What does having mentally better abilities mean? As in socializing or what? Horikita is way smarter than Karuizawa, at least what I've seen in the anime confirms that, so I can't really understand how she can be more useful. :/ Also, I hope author starts focusing more on Sakayanagi as well.

He says Karuizawa has better mental fortitude, she doesn't break under pressure, doesn't give in to anyone, even to Ryuuen, Sakayanagi and Nagumo. When he presented her as his partner to Kiriyama (the vice-president and an informant) he did it cause he believed she had the capabilities to work against Nagumo with him.

Sakayangi is the one that makes me laugh the most of the girls. She is such a troller, but overly confident I think. She is probably the best at reading body language of all of them, doing cold and hot reading of her targets.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

What does having mentally better abilities mean? As in socializing or what? Horikita is way smarter than Karuizawa, at least what I've seen in the anime confirms that, so I can't really understand how she can be more useful. :/ Also, I hope author starts focusing more on Sakayanagi as well.

Instead of the anime, use the novel as a source, of course, Horikita excels in academy index and sports skills, but the series has already shown that does not judge anyone just in that. In volume 4 Ayano says that Karuizawa's value as a person is greater than that of Horikita because Horikita can only fight alone, while Karuizawa can fight in a group, and this in this school is very important.

[Jason25th]

After reading the conversation between Kei and Kiyotaka... no way that any girl will reach this level of intimity with him.It is completely insane to read and discover just how different is the Kiyotaka that interacts with Kei. It's so good to follow a character development like this.

[LeftSeven]

no way that any girl will reach this level of intimity with him?

heyy, this series hasn't end yet you know, it's still early to make conclusion. lol

[Miso]

no way that any girl will reach this level of intimity with him?

heyy, this series hasn't end yet you know, it's still early to make conclusion. lol

Not really since romance is not the focus of this series. I would say it is over. There is really no other girl who can get intimate as Kei is with him right now and also in the future they'll get even closer since they became partners. People compare this novel with some novels that are rom coms while this is the first time this novel really tackled romance.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Not really since romance is not the focus of this series. I would say it is over. There is really no other girl who can get intimate as Kei is with him right now and also in the future they'll get even closer since they became partners. People compare this novel with some novels that are rom coms while this is the first time this novel really tackled romance.

I think it's arrogance already decided how things will be in this series, as stated it has differences with standard novels, so it's normal to think that relationships can change, an important person does not mean to be the love of a person's life, it can be a a good friend or a confidant, I have important people in my life who are not relatives and are not or have been my lovers.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I have to agree with some of the other people, I actually do indeed think that Kei is practically estabilished as Ayano's love interest but we never know actually, this series will be a long one, anything can happen, there's the possibility that Kinugasa can introduce new characters or even one of the characters that we already know as a love interest. Of course, the realtionship between such a character with Ayano would need such a fuckton of development for this to happen(or just to catchup up with what Kei has with him right now) but hey, it's Kinugasa we're talking about.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

plot twist

As Ayano wants to try new things, he can become bisexual.

[Xero8420]

Simmer down, boys. Change don't always be constant or in an instant. It may not happen this time, but change will happen eventually someday.

It's pretty old to compare this with other series like Oregairu, which don't much similarities in common.

Even though I do acknowledge Kei is the first for him, but how long it will stay the same, we don't know for sure. Who knows one day Kiyo might go for another girl with a change of heart.

[Arashikun]

All this talk about Who's going to be Kiyo's 'special person' and I see a lot of guys saying it'll be Kei who'll be the one at the end. HAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm sorry, but I had to laugh.


Here's the thing, we don't know as of yet. Sure Kinugasa has setup Kei as one love interest, but Who know's what he'll do next to spice things up. Anything can happen.
And unlike you guys, I'm just waiting patiently for what's eventually going to go down in the next volume instead of bickering about something that we aren't even sure about yet.

[thefreakmike]

Whatever the development will be with any of the other female characters, let just hope we dont get some NTR-level shit

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

All this talk about Who's going to be Kiyo's 'special person' and I see a lot of guys saying it'll be Kei who'll be the one at the end. HAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm sorry, but I had to laugh.


Here's the thing, we don't know as of yet. Sure Kinugasa has setup Kei as one love interest, but Who know's what he'll do next to spice things up. Anything can happen.
And unlike you guys, I'm just waiting patiently for what's eventually going to go down in the next volume instead of bickering about something that we aren't even sure about yet.

As a Kei fan I don't really have a problem if she is not the one who will be Ayanokoji's love interest(though I clearly want her to be) as long as the girl gets good development with Ayanokoji I'm okay with whoever it might be, but we also don't need to wait for the next volumes to have a nice discussion here, sure we do talk a lot about shipps because it's fun(and we respect everyone's favorite girls) but in this volume there were also some really awesome things beside the romance chapters that can be discussed. I for example think that Arisu will just be humilliated if she keeps acting the way she does now and want to see more Ayanokoji and Ryuuen interactions, they make an interesting duo.

[Cinnamon]

And unlike you guys, I'm just waiting patiently for what's eventually going to go down in the next volume instead of bickering about something that we aren't even sure about yet.

It's still early to conclude any romantic relationship as most here already know. But it's not unthinkable to have the romance independent on story progression. The trope that romance only happen in the end might be something on the list for this series. If someone is going to humanise him, having romance in the middle would be better to show his progress rather than at the end.

And to be honest, I'm surprised how little romance-related material there is in the novel in total. And almost all of them, I'll say 80-90% is related to someone who started as a side character. The rest is is related to our shy adorable idol or Satou. There is actually nothing else which surprised me first time I counted how many scenes each heroine has that develops them as a romantic partner. Feel free to argue back if you have better proof, in other words, find one SINGLE scene that is not the ones above.

It's a fairly large gap that had this been another light novel, like Rakudai, people wouldn't question it.

After Arisu called out Ryuuen to talk during New Years Eve, I hope we will see more of them. They have a really interesting dynamic and she doesn't use the forbidden Dragon Boy as she had done the two last volumes. Her saying to him and Ayanon that she is attacking B smells like a trap no matter how many times I read it. Her asking to meet Ryuuen personally instead of talking through phone also backs that.

But do I KNOW this? Of course not, I'm predicting based on events already written. I'm already tired of people using this strategy that focuses on shutting up the others instead of arguing them back.

[vietthai96]

Rakudai's romance is the stupidest romance i ever seen in my opinion

I think Ryuuen is already out of the big picture? or he still planning thing

[LeftSeven]

reader can only guess while author can make a turning point. lol

[LKK]

Thread closed for what feels like the umpteenth time.

Edit: relentlessflame cleaned out some posts, so I'm going to open the thread.

Let me be clear. Be on your best behavior, everyone. Otherwise, this thread may be closed permanently.

[Xero8420]

So far, the conversations here went well with a moderated talks on romance. Perhaps the problem came from the newcomers' behavior.

Newcomers, please take note. Given the stringent forum policy in here, you are strongly advised to mind your tongue & your language, learn to restrain your impulsive thoughts. If you have nothing nice to say, you're free to refrain from posting. This is NOT MAL forums or Reddit, and not the place for you all to exercise your child-like sarcastic tones. If you wish to learn how to have a constructive conversation or how to speak nicely, you're more than welcome to learn with us.

Horikita and Ayanokouji had a contract to work together. This one was due to Chabashira-sensei pressing Ayanokouji to do it to implant a reason for him to stay at the academy. He did help his class during their special exams but he never committed to it.

Once he learned that his father couldn't force him out and that Chabashira would never expel him since it would lower her chances at getting to class A, he makes Horikita, and Hirata take the front seat while he plans to do as little as possible and be an observer. Horikita sensed it several times that he wasn't committed and asked him about it too which he answer in an indirect way that he will do his part, if he feels like it. So right now he doesn't really aim for class A directly, he lets other do it and just watches them, doing things backstage using his new pawns. His only goal for now is to stop Nagumo due to his contract with Manabu Horikita.

Hold up! Kiyo actually worked with Manabu to depose Nagumo? I think I missed something here. What did Nagumo do to get into the prez position?

[dragon1412]

Hold up! Kiyo actually worked with Manabu to depose Nagumo? I think I missed something here. What did Nagumo do to get into the prez position?

No info on that I think

[LG-MAX 2.o]

And what about Horikita and Kushida working together? and do they really think they can defeat Ayano?

[SilverGlavenus]

^They "think", mind you. Whether they are able to make that true, we'll have to see.:heh:

[LG-MAX 2.o]

There are spoilers that say that Horikita although does not know about what Ayano is capable of (although she should already have an idea for vol 3), began to be cautious about him from vol 6, but what about Kushida? does she still think he's a harmless beta? and that Horikita is a goddess?

rereading the translations of vol 7.5, have Ayano and Masumi met before?

[Cinnamon]

There are spoilers that say that Horikita although does not know about what Ayano is capable of (although she should already have an idea for vol 3), began to be cautious about him from vol 6, but what about Kushida? does she still think he's a harmless beta? and that Horikita is a goddess?

rereading the translations of vol 7.5, have Ayano and Masumi met before?


I'm putting everything in spoilers.

Horikita knows about his plan in v3 to make her sick and retire during the Survival exam. She does not know about the exam on the boat, the athletic festival, what went behind the Paper Shuffle event with Kushida, his duel with Ryuuen so she only guesses that he is a formidable student that she can use. She has an idea that he is hiding his claws, but she does not know anything further than that. In volume 6, she decided to not disclose her plan to him to thwart Kushida, thinking she had to fool all her allies to fool Kushida.

Kushida can't interfere with Horikita due to her loss after the Paper Shuffle, but by no means does that mean this is over. After Ayanokouji meeting up with Horikita and Kushida and discussing the Student Council, he leaves but notices an ominous feeling from Kushida in v7.5. She knows he is X from Ryuuen and how Karuizawa is his partner.

Kamuro met with Ayanokouji in v7 when she was watching him while he was going out with his group. He later sits down beside her and make a sorta "non-interference" rule.

EDIT: For why people think she is scared of him: Ryuuen told her after her defeat that the only one stopping him from crushing her totally was the message he got right at that moment as she was about to bow to him. Since it was sent the time it did he deduced that Ayanokouji did not care whether she kowtowed to Ryuuen or not,
he just sent it at the end of the day. He couldn't know when Horikita would admit her loss. Horikita thinks that the message may have been sent from him, but is not sure.



Hold up! Kiyo actually worked with Manabu to depose Nagumo? I think I missed something here. What did Nagumo do to get into the prez position?
EDIT 2: I can probably do this one too.
Nagumo's thinks this school isn't Elite enough. He thinks having the elites, averages and the bottom low share the same classes is wrong. We know all classes has a mix of all kinds of people from Papayanagi and Ayanokouji-sensei. Nagumo knows there are people that are unsatisfied with their class, people like Yukimura, Horikita who thought the class they were sent to was a mistake. Nagumo feeds on those people from the 2nd years and got elected as the next president after Horikita Manabu. The 2nd years support him because he promised them a chance to rise up independent of their classes. He also gives those who supports him benefits. This is why all 2nd years support him.

Manabu wants to preserve how the school has been run for years and opposes this since it can lead to more expulsions of the weak ones. Thus he wanted Ayanokouji to help him. This is right after Ayanokouji decided to abandon Karuizawa and Class A totally. Ayanokouji goes back to this deal to make Manabu act as a witness to the people descending from the rooftop later as a threat to them.

This is why Ayanokouji cannot back down from this deal since he already promised Manabu for his help to save Karuizawa.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I'm putting everything in spoilers.

Horikita knows about his plan in v3 to make her sick and retire during the Survival exam. She does not know about the exam on the boat, the athletic festival, what went behind the Paper Shuffle event with Kushida, his duel with Ryuuen so she only guesses that he is a formidable student that she can use. She has an idea that he is hiding his claws, but she does not know anything further than that. In volume 6, she decided to not disclose her plan to him to thwart Kushida, thinking she had to fool all her allies to fool Kushida.

Kushida can't interfere with Horikita due to her loss after the Paper Shuffle, but by no means does that mean this is over. After Ayanokouji meeting up with Horikita and Kushida and discussing the Student Council, he leaves but notices an ominous feeling from Kushida in v7.5. She knows he is X from Ryuuen and how Karuizawa is his partner.

Kamuro met with Ayanokouji in v7 when she was watching him while he was going out with his group. He later sits down beside her and make a sorta "non-interference" rule.

EDIT: For why people think she is scared of him: Ryuuen told her after her defeat that the only one stopping him from crushing her totally was the message he got right at that moment as she was about to bow to him. Since it was sent the time it did he deduced that Ayanokouji did not care whether she kowtowed to Ryuuen or not,
he just sent it at the end of the day. He couldn't know when Horikita would admit her loss. Horikita thinks that the message may have been sent from him, but is not sure.

thanks, honestly, damn day I decided to watch the anime, at least I should have done it a year later, so there would be material to read, there is so much that happened that I had no idea, I thought it was a translation error in that Masumi part in the vol 7.5.

I wish the novel would soon come to the West.

[joshindabarrel]

My access to the Volume 7 English Translations are limited, so can anyone tell me what the “secret system” referred to below is?

“Kiyotaka’s father is pressing for him to drop out. Then, the school’s board chairman is revealing the secret system behind the Advanced Nurturing High School――!?”

[Cinnamon]

My access to the Volume 7 English Translations are limited, so can anyone tell me what the “secret system” referred to below is?

“Kiyotaka’s father is pressing for him to drop out. Then, the school’s board chairman is revealing the secret system behind the Advanced Nurturing High School――!?”

In short it's this:

The school cooperates with several middle schools around Japan. They make a list of student's that deserves to be students in this school. Only students from this list are allowed to to begin at this school and the entry exam and interviews are a sham, an excuse to send away other students. Even if you get full marks and the test and interviews, you will not be allowed to be a student no matter who you are.

This is the reason Sudou, Ike, Karuizawa and Hirata and everybody else made it. Common sense and academics are of second priority. How they choose we don't know, but they take in everything from top students to those of the very bottom. Ayanokouji is the only exception, he was allowed to enter due to Papayanagi and him alone.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm putting everything in spoilers.

Horikita knows about his plan in v3 to make her sick and retire during the Survival exam. She does not know about the exam on the boat, the athletic festival, what went behind the Paper Shuffle event with Kushida, his duel with Ryuuen so she only guesses that he is a formidable student that she can use. She has an idea that he is hiding his claws, but she does not know anything further than that. In volume 6, she decided to not disclose her plan to him to thwart Kushida, thinking she had to fool all her allies to fool Kushida.

Kushida can't interfere with Horikita due to her loss after the Paper Shuffle, but by no means does that mean this is over. After Ayanokouji meeting up with Horikita and Kushida and discussing the Student Council, he leaves but notices an ominous feeling from Kushida in v7.5. She knows he is X from Ryuuen and how Karuizawa is his partner.

Kamuro met with Ayanokouji in v7 when she was watching him while he was going out with his group. He later sits down beside her and make a sorta "non-interference" rule.

EDIT: For why people think she is scared of him: Ryuuen told her after her defeat that the only one stopping him from crushing her totally was the message he got right at that moment as she was about to bow to him. Since it was sent the time it did he deduced that Ayanokouji did not care whether she kowtowed to Ryuuen or not,
he just sent it at the end of the day. He couldn't know when Horikita would admit her loss. Horikita thinks that the message may have been sent from him, but is not sure.



EDIT 2: I can probably do this one too.
Nagumo's thinks this school isn't Elite enough. He thinks having the elites, averages and the bottom low share the same classes is wrong. We know all classes has a mix of all kinds of people from Papayanagi and Ayanokouji-sensei. Nagumo knows there are people that are unsatisfied with their class, people like Yukimura, Horikita who thought the class they were sent to was a mistake. Nagumo feeds on those people from the 2nd years and got elected as the next president after Horikita Manabu. The 2nd years support him because he promised them a chance to rise up independent of their classes. He also gives those who supports him benefits. This is why all 2nd years support him.

Manabu wants to preserve how the school has been run for years and opposes this since it can lead to more expulsions of the weak ones. Thus he wanted Ayanokouji to help him. This is right after Ayanokouji decided to abandon Karuizawa and Class A totally. Ayanokouji goes back to this deal to make Manabu act as a witness to the people descending from the rooftop later as a threat to them.

This is why Ayanokouji cannot back down from this deal since he already promised Manabu for his help to save Karuizawa.

So Kushida actually knows that Ayano is X? Also, thanks again for the spoilers cinnamon.

[joshindabarrel]

Thank you for the reply Cinnamon. Now that you said that, it makes sense that Sudo (and others) were selected to enter, rather than open entrance through high exam scores.

I have one more question regarding Volume 7.5.
“To call this friendship, might be being somewhat rude to Kei but........it's just, from now on, if I can aim for Class A and sever my connection with the student council, at that time we could be friends.......no, I feel like it could change into something beyond that.”
Do you know why Ayanokouji now desires to reach class A? I thought that he simply wanted to get into Class C (he mentioned it in the anime). Has he always wanted to reach Class A throughout the entire story?

[Cinnamon]

Thank you for the reply Cinnamon. Now that you said that, it makes sense that Sudo (and others) were selected to enter, rather than open entrance through high exam scores.

I have one more question regarding Volume 7.5.
“To call this friendship, might be being somewhat rude to Kei but........it's just, from now on, if I can aim for Class A and sever my connection with the student council, at that time we could be friends.......no, I feel like it could change into something beyond that.”
Do you know why Ayanokouji now desires to reach class A? I thought that he simply wanted to get into Class C (he mentioned it in the anime). Has he always wanted to reach Class A throughout the entire story?

Check back a few posts, around page 151. Short answer, yes he is aiming for class A due to deals with other people. However, he will aim for the backseat role, letting Horikita and Hirata do the job, trying to not give Nagumo any excuses to harass him. As Horikita and Hirata thus far has rejected the idea of joining the student council (v7.5), he has some work to do still.

[joshindabarrel]

Alright I think I understand now Cinnamon. I'm just trying to figure out what motivates Ayanokouji and what his end game is. So far, all I can figure out is that he defines winning as: (1) Protecting himself and surviving, (2) Maintaining his personal freedom by staying enrolled at the high school, and not returning to the White Room, (3) Gaining and manipulating his pawns so that he is always in a "favorable" position, and (4) Masking his immense capabilities so that he doesn't have a target on his back. Is there anything I have missed?

EDIT: Of course, "winning" is the only that matters to him.

[Xero8420]

I'm putting everything in spoilers.

EDIT 2: I can probably do this one too.
Nagumo's thinks this school isn't Elite enough. He thinks having the elites, averages and the bottom low share the same classes is wrong. We know all classes has a mix of all kinds of people from Papayanagi and Ayanokouji-sensei. Nagumo knows there are people that are unsatisfied with their class, people like Yukimura, Horikita who thought the class they were sent to was a mistake. Nagumo feeds on those people from the 2nd years and got elected as the next president after Horikita Manabu. The 2nd years support him because he promised them a chance to rise up independent of their classes. He also gives those who supports him benefits. This is why all 2nd years support him.

Manabu wants to preserve how the school has been run for years and opposes this since it can lead to more expulsions of the weak ones. Thus he wanted Ayanokouji to help him. This is right after Ayanokouji decided to abandon Karuizawa and Class A totally. Ayanokouji goes back to this deal to make Manabu act as a witness to the people descending from the rooftop later as a threat to them.

This is why Ayanokouji cannot back down from this deal since he already promised Manabu for his help to save Karuizawa.

So Nagumo intended to go full Darwinist on student classes when it's obvious that 1st Year Class D is an example of the heretical mixed bag that wants to correct. But I fear that Suzune & some other 1st years might support Nagumo's policy.

It's interesting to know that Manabu actually lenient to the weak ones & allow them opportunities to better themselves. Which unlike Nagumo, who would probably be ruthless on perishing the weak. But more expulsion of the weak is not good for the school's reputation either.

So did Ichinose aware of his intention while she was on his side?

[SilverGlavenus]

Nagumo's thinks this school isn't Elite enough. He thinks having the elites, averages and the bottom low share the same classes is wrong. We know all classes has a mix of all kinds of people from Papayanagi and Ayanokouji-sensei. Nagumo knows there are people that are unsatisfied with their class, people like Yukimura, Horikita who thought the class they were sent to was a mistake. Nagumo feeds on those people from the 2nd years and got elected as the next president after Horikita Manabu. The 2nd years support him because he promised them a chance to rise up independent of their classes. He also gives those who supports him benefits. This is why all 2nd years support him.

Manabu wants to preserve how the school has been run for years and opposes this since it can lead to more expulsions of the weak ones. Thus he wanted Ayanokouji to help him. This is right after Ayanokouji decided to abandon Karuizawa and Class A totally. Ayanokouji goes back to this deal to make Manabu act as a witness to the people descending from the rooftop later as a threat to them.

This is why Ayanokouji cannot back down from this deal since he already promised Manabu for his help to save Karuizawa.

Thanks for the spoiler @Cinnamon. :D

So basically, Nagumo takes advantage of the 2nd years' delusions that they can independently move up a class. I guess that is only natural since almost everyone thinks they deserve better, rather than accepting their limitations. I'm curious if the school knows about this, since Nagumo pretty much is trying go break the school's policies. And if the school does know, how can he become the student president ?

The secret system that @Cinnamon points out sounds fishy af. A school of elites but only choose from a determined list, even the worse ones. It seems we are still extremely far from the end of this LN.:heh::heh:.

Did the LN made it official that Ichinose supports Nagumo ?? Cause my memory is bad :heh: Her supporting someone like him while having that many points is kinda convenient imo.

[Xero8420]

Thanks for the spoiler @Cinnamon. :D

So basically, Nagumo takes advantage of the 2nd years' delusions that they can independently move up a class. I guess that is only natural since almost everyone thinks they deserve better, rather than accepting their limitations. I'm curious if the school knows about this, since Nagumo pretty much is trying go break the school's policies. And if the school does know, how can he become the student president ?

The secret system that @Cinnamon points out sounds fishy af. A school of elites but only choose from a determined list, even the worse ones. It seems we are still extremely far from the end of this LN.:heh::heh:.

Did the LN made it official that Ichinose supports Nagumo ?? Cause my memory is bad :heh: Her supporting someone like him while having that many points is kinda convenient imo.

Then if Honami is just doing Nagumo's bidding & did not ask or not allowed to ask his intention, then she's not doing the right thing.

[Arashikun]

But it's not unthinkable to have the romance independent on story progression. The trope that romance only happen in the end might be something on the list for this series. If someone is going to humanise him, having romance in the middle would be better to show his progress rather than at the end.

I was already aware of what you said since I've been reading this series before the anime aired(been buying each volume as it came out from Akihabara since its only one train ride away from my apartment here in Japan). I would agree that it would indeed be great to see a little progress, which was evidently shown in v 7.5. Though I do appreciate the explanation you made for the rest who didn't. I'm looking forward to seeing similar developments (be it with Kei or a different girl) as the Ln progresses.


Now to wait for v8.

[A7am]

Hey guys i know this is off topic but i am quite curious on how ayano got all of his intellectual and physical prowess, neglecting his mental portrait since he was born with no feelings whatsoever, if you guys would guess, how would you describe his educational and training 'program', like what did he study in the white room and what kind of martial arts was he taught (how many hours..etc) ?

[joshindabarrel]

A7am, I hope these quotes help.

“I won't deny that. As a matter of fact, my father's conviction is indeed just that. That whether or not you have superior genetics does not matter. By having one undergo thorough education from the moment of their birth, from the amount of time allocated to sleep even to what you're allowed to eat. By regulating each and every single last one of them, a perfect human is sculpted. That this method is the only way to give rise to superior talent that will support Japan. My father believed in that.” -Ayanokouji’s thoughts from his section with Sakayanagi (V 7.5).

[SPOILER="AyanokoujiÂ’s White Room Training"][/”You taught us a a lot of things. Not only the usual arts and sciences, martial arts and self-defence, wisdom and much more. It is because of that I wanted to learn about the «world» you threw away.” - AyanokoujiÂ’s Dialogue with his father (V7).]Â

It is also heavily implied in the anime that he went through some sort of resperiation training. There are a couple of scenes in the anime where he was in a room that appeared to have low oxygen levels. In the scenes there were children standing in line, then one girl fell to the floor and started placing her hand over her chest. As a surfer, I have done breathing training and I can confirm that the girl looked like she was running out of oxygen. I have done heaps of research on Ayanokouji via translations and this is the most detailed information I could find regarding his training in the White Room.

[vietthai96]

Hey guys i know this is off topic but i am quite curious on how ayano got all of his intellectual and physical prowess, neglecting his mental portrait since he was born with no feelings whatsoever, if you guys would guess, how would you describe his educational and training 'program', like what did he study in the white room and what kind of martial arts was he taught (how many hours..etc) ?

I don't think he born with no feeling, it is becase of the effect come from his training from kid age, aim to become a superior tool, not a human in general

[SilverGlavenus]

Hey guys i know this is off topic but i am quite curious on how ayano got all of his intellectual and physical prowess, neglecting his mental portrait since he was born with no feelings whatsoever, if you guys would guess, how would you describe his educational and training 'program', like what did he study in the white room and what kind of martial arts was he taught (how many hours..etc) ?

100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 100 pull ups, followed by a 100km run everyday, for the entirety of his childhood.:D:D

[vietthai96]

If that is real Ryuuen will down in one punch :heh:

[Xero8420]

Papa Akanokouji brought him up like a some kind of a super soldier in childhood lifetime, with no space & time for social interactions that are essential for daily life, as if it's a useless luxury for his vision of perfect education.

But thank god Papa Sakayanagi managed to get Kiyo-pon break free from his eternal bird cage.

[A7am]

Appreciate it lads thanks, also that thing about low oxygen levels is so hardcore, i mean won't that effect him on the negative side, less informations retained, no growth in muscles and such, and judging btw he looks, he undergo a training of strength not size, meaning lifting heavy weight in low reps and incorporating mild and explosive workouts, also when talking about the 'wisdom' he got, i can only assume he was taught philosophy and read many books as possible. One last question, were the other kids in the white room dying from the intensity of the white room or were they going unconcious, because this detail especially is haunting me, as to where the white room would be regarded as a supporting pillar to Japan or just a graveyard for children, oh and i wanna know about the origin of the kids. Thanks again.

[SilverGlavenus]

Appreciate it lads thanks, also that thing about low oxygen levels is so hardcore, i mean won't that effect him on the negative side, less informations retained, no growth in muscles and such, and judging btw he looks, he undergo a training of strength not size, meaning lifting heavy weight in low reps and incorporating mild and explosive workouts, also when talking about the 'wisdom' he got, i can only assume he was taught philosophy and read many books as possible. One last question, were the other kids in the white room dying from the intensity of the white room or were they going unconcious, because this detail especially is haunting me, as to where the white room would be regarded as a supporting pillar to Japan or just a graveyard for children, oh and i wanna know about the origin of the kids. Thanks again.

I don't think any of the answers above (especially mine :heh:) can be taken as true tho. All of them are speculations, and iirc, so far we don't have any details about the other children, only than the fact that Ayanokoji is the only successful "specimen".

[A7am]

I don't think any of the answers above (especially mine :heh:) can be taken as true tho. All of them are speculations, and iirc, so far we don't have any details about the other children, only than the fact that Ayanokoji is the only successful "specimen".
SilverGlavenus, thanks.
I just finished the anime last week, and i was extremley amazed by one thing, Ayano's capabilities, i mean i had no interest in his relationships nor the plot, i just had my eyes on him, you could say he is trained to top bruce lee, educated to ace einstein and is more ruthless and psychopathic than hitler, such chemistry man.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sales of volume 7.5 are pretty crazy, almost 45k in just 4 days, damn.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I just hope that the success of the series does not impose limits on the creativity of the author forcing him to make populist choices, this has destroyed good series.

[Xero8420]

I just hope that the success of the series does not impose limits on the creativity of the author forcing him to make populist choices, this has destroyed good series.

As in appeasing a certain part of fanbase just because one girl is very popular? Besides, even an author's personal favoritism may not be as good either. As long as it's not go into an of those extremes, it should be fine.

[Liselotte-sama]

Is there a fixed date for the release of the next volume?

[tuckersister]

It's WAY to early for that. Maybe release date will be revealed in a couple months.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Is there a fixed date for the release of the next volume?

April

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[tuckersister]

Wait!!! Really there's a date?

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Wait!!! Really there's a date?

whoever read the book said that this is written at the end.

[AzureDragonX]

is there a English translation for vol. 5, 6 , 7?

[Cinnamon]

There's a new Ichinose Short Story taking place in mid-December and tells how she and Arisu agreed to meet for a talk during v7. This is my short summary of it:

It's in the middle of December. Ichinose is talking to Kanzaki about how the lost with only 2 points during Paper Shuffle to class A. They talk about D Class and how they would rise to C class soon. D class is nearing the other classes even though they lost all points during the first month. Kanzaki asks about their cooperation with Horikita. Ichinose says she wants to continue it for now. Kanzaki says he thinks D-class reminds him of their own class in their quick planning.
Ichinose knew Ayanokouji was quick when he and she ran to protect Sakura Airi and since she was in the track and field club earlier, she had confidence in her speed. She was surprised by his form and speed. Kanzaki leaves saying he has plans with other people. Ichinose thinks it's unusual for him to meet others. Shibata comes and they and Chihiro and Mako comes and they agree to a a little party. They meet Sakayanagi, Motohashi and Kamuro. After exchanging greetings Arisu wants to consult with Ichinose about something. They exchange contact addresses. The others from Class B wants her to be careful. Ichinose says she wants to talk to her anyway. If she can help, she will.

Last passage is:
'I can understand Shibata-kun's worries. But I don't know whether it's a lie or not unless I talk to her. If she really is in trouble I want to help her. I will always do my very best to answer the calls of everyone else no matter who they are. Even if one day, I may end up getting strangled by it all.'

[Xero8420]

There's a new Ichinose Short Story taking place in mid-December and tells how she and Arisu agreed to meet for a talk during v7. This is my short summary of it:

It's in the middle of December. Ichinose is talking to Kanzaki about how the lost with only 2 points during Paper Shuffle to class A. They talk about D Class and how they would rise to C class soon. D class is nearing the other classes even though they lost all points during the first month. Kanzaki asks about their cooperation with Horikita. Ichinose says she wants to continue it for now. Kanzaki says he thinks D-class reminds him of their own class in their quick planning.
Ichinose knew Ayanokouji was quick when he and she ran to protect Sakura Airi and since she was in the track and field club earlier, she had confidence in her speed. She was surprised by his form and speed. Kanzaki leaves saying he has plans with other people. Ichinose thinks it's unusual for him to meet others. Shibata comes and they and Chihiro and Mako comes and they agree to a a little party. They meet Sakayanagi, Motohashi and Kamuro. After exchanging greetings Arisu wants to consult with Ichinose about something. They exchange contact addresses. The others from Class B wants her to be careful. Ichinose says she wants to talk to her anyway. If she can help, she will.

Last passage is:
'I can understand Shibata-kun's worries. But I don't know whether it's a lie or not unless I talk to her. If she really is in trouble I want to help her. I will always do my very best to answer the calls of everyone else no matter who they are. Even if one day, I may end up getting strangled by it all.'

Damn... She cannot go on like this, she's now playing with fire.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Damn... She cannot go on like this, she's now playing with fire.

Ichinose is the female Emiya Shirou of this series.

[Cinnamon]

After listening to the Audio Drama written by Kinugasa, is there anyone else who thinks this is canon after Volume 3 but between 4? It has small details like how Tachibana reacts to Ayanon, Ryuuen actually acts like his LN part. Horikita actually acts like the LN-version of her after volume 3 and not like her at the end of the anime, we get to know how Sakura chose this school, Manabu coming to check out the classes and reevaluate Ichinose and Katsuragi he did not accept into the council earlier. Horikita having second thoughts about meeting Ibuki again. Ryuuen acting like how he should like in the LN. It has several references that makes sense for readers of 3 and 4 too. If you can understand Japanese, I highly recommend listening to it.

EDIT: The fact it follows LN canon instead of anime canon was a surprise given that it was a bonus for the BDs

[cyberdemon]

Ichinose is the female Emiya Shirou of this series.

Maybe that is why she missed a lot of a school before. Because she was in an accident where she survived at the expense of others. Hence why she felt the need to help everyone she is able to and also why She was delegated to class B because the school didn't feel she had the ability to make sacrifices needed to succeed anymore.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

reading new Ichinose SS, WOW, she believes that Kushida helped Horikita to conquer the victories for class D, Ayanokouji did a good job in deceiving her.

After listening to the Audio Drama written by Kinugasa, is there anyone else who thinks this is canon after Volume 3 but between 4? It has small details like how Tachibana reacts to Ayanon

does she still consider him a bad influence on Manabu-chan?

Maybe that is why she missed a lot of a school before. Because she was in an accident where she survived at the expense of others. Hence why she felt the need to help everyone she is able to and also why She was delegated to class B because the school didn't feel she had the ability to make sacrifices needed to succeed anymore.


she will be very disappointed when she finds out who Ayano really is, a guy who does not feel anything even when someone who helped him committed suicide and even though he considers Kei his partner, he still has dangerous thoughts around her.

[cyberdemon]

she will be very disappointed when she finds out who Ayano really is, a guy who does not feel anything even when someone who helped him committed suicide and even though he considers Kei his partner, he still has dangerous thoughts around her.

To an extent Ayanokouji is like Sakura from Fate. The type who due to the shit that happened in their life wouldn't care if the world was burning down around them. It's all a matter of finding the one who would make them care.

[joshindabarrel]

Does anyone know if Ayanokouji’s inner monologue from the anime finale is the same as it is at the end of volume 3 of the light novels? It would be epic if someone had a translation of it because I would love to read it :)

[cyberdemon]

It's the same I believe

[Xero8420]

Ichinose is the female Emiya Shirou of this series.

To an extent Ayanokouji is like Sakura from Fate. The type who due to the shit that happened in their life wouldn't care if the world was burning down around them. It's all a matter of finding the one who would make them care.

Since you guys were referring to Fate series, I personally think that Kiyotaka is more or less similar to Archer EMIYA in terms of the level of edginess, pragmatism & the tendency of scheming to do whatever it takes to achieve what he wants or accomplish anything with his desired outcomes.

And do you guys know what I'm thinking? You two gave me the Shirou x Sakura impression, that giving more reasons to see both Kiyo & Honami come together even more.

[Lhklan]

Since you guys were referring to Fate series, I personally think that Kiyotaka is more or less similar to Archer EMIYA in terms of the level of edginess, pragmatism & the tendency of scheming to do whatever it takes to achieve what he wants or accomplish anything with his desired outcomes.

And do you guys know what I'm thinking? You two gave me the Shirou x Sakura impression, that giving more reasons to see both Kiyo & Honami come together even more.

Nah. Way I see it, Kei may ends up as the official winner, but Honami is going to end up as the guy that everyone is torn up over.


To me, Kiyotaka and Ichinose are like direct opposite/contrast.

He works from the shadows and prefer anomity, she works openly and even took up a position.

He pulls underhanded tactics left and right for his needs, she prefer going on the straight and fair path.

He thinks of people as tools to be used, she thinks of befriending and helping people.

His priority is himself, and going by her line, her priority is helping others.

My guess is that the one that ends up as his ultimate rivals isn't Sayakanagi, but Ichinose.

They would oppose one another, but would still help the others for some strange reasons. And as time goes on, they began to become influenced by the others: Ichinose doesn't mind pulling underhanded tactics to help others, while Kiyotaka start taking care of the ones closer to him more.

They would ends up acknowledging that the other have good points, but they had already chosen their paths and there's no looking back.

In fact, this may even go beyond their school life: They find themselves repeatedly encountering the others on their life after.

There are going to be tons of tensions and Foe Yay moments between them, to the point that even the others start to wonder if there's something going on between the two of them.

They're not going to be the official couple, but by the end of the series some people would either prefer that, be torn over whether to chose Ichinose or Kei, or wants for a OT3 situation.




Some of you might not like it, but this is what I think. Thoughts?

[dragon1412]

Nah. Way I see it, Kei may ends up as the official winner, but Honami is going to end up as the guy that everyone is torn up over.


To me, Kiyotaka and Ichinose are like direct opposite/contrast.

He works from the shadows and prefer anomity, she works openly and even took up a position.

He pulls underhanded tactics left and right for his needs, she prefer going on the straight and fair path.

He thinks of people as tools to be used, she thinks of befriending and helping people.

His priority is himself, and going by her line, her priority is helping others.

My guess is that the one that ends up as his ultimate rivals isn't Sayakanagi, but Ichinose.

They would oppose one another, but would still help the others for some strange reasons. And as time goes on, they began to become influenced by the others: Ichinose doesn't mind pulling underhanded tactics to help others, while Kiyotaka start taking care of the ones closer to him more.

They would ends up acknowledging that the other have good points, but they had already chosen their paths and there's no looking back.

In fact, this may even go beyond their school life: They find themselves repeatedly encountering the others on their life after.

There are going to be tons of tensions and Foe Yay moments between them, to the point that even the others start to wonder if there's something going on between the two of them.

They're not going to be the official couple, but by the end of the series some people would either prefer that, be torn over whether to chose Ichinose or Kei, or wants for a OT3 situation.




Some of you might not like it, but this is what I think. Thoughts?
Ichinose being the contrast as well as rivals of Aya is actually a pretty common view point among people here.

[Xero8420]

Still don't feel convinced enough for me. Since this one is gonna be a long running series, things could change overtime. Not that I'm still being stubborn with my own bias or even my own fantasy, I'm just saying by a common sense that people relations could change & anything could happen.

[Cinnamon]

Nah. Way I see it, Kei may ends up as the official winner, but Honami is going to end up as the guy that everyone is torn up over.


To me, Kiyotaka and Ichinose are like direct opposite/contrast.

He works from the shadows and prefer anomity, she works openly and even took up a position.

He pulls underhanded tactics left and right for his needs, she prefer going on the straight and fair path.

He thinks of people as tools to be used, she thinks of befriending and helping people.

His priority is himself, and going by her line, her priority is helping others.

My guess is that the one that ends up as his ultimate rivals isn't Sayakanagi, but Ichinose.

They would oppose one another, but would still help the others for some strange reasons. And as time goes on, they began to become influenced by the others: Ichinose doesn't mind pulling underhanded tactics to help others, while Kiyotaka start taking care of the ones closer to him more.

They would ends up acknowledging that the other have good points, but they had already chosen their paths and there's no looking back.

In fact, this may even go beyond their school life: They find themselves repeatedly encountering the others on their life after.

There are going to be tons of tensions and Foe Yay moments between them, to the point that even the others start to wonder if there's something going on between the two of them.

They're not going to be the official couple, but by the end of the series some people would either prefer that, be torn over whether to chose Ichinose or Kei, or wants for a OT3 situation.




Some of you might not like it, but this is what I think. Thoughts?

There is a reason he and her has been developed as opposites since the start and making them friends and rivals is a natural extension of that I think. If Kinugasa chooses focus on her and Ayanokouji, I would be delighted to have them becoming something like Amuro and Char. Rivals until the end.

Btw, what do you think if Ichinose's weak point lies with those feelings of wanting to help others first? Like in survivor guilt? It could explain how she was absent in middle school and how she seems to help others above herself. Even if it may destroy her. That seems to be the reason Emiya from Fate also got his from.

Does anyone know if Ayanokouji’s inner monologue from the anime finale is the same as it is at the end of volume 3 of the light novels? It would be epic if someone had a translation of it because I would love to read it :)
Translated that part just because you asked for it :) You should know where to find it.

[tuckersister]

Someone posted one time that Kiyotaka is trying to "cultivate" Kei into a stronger person than himself so he can mind his own life and leave her to deal the problems directly. I'm looking forward to the volume that shows Class D meeting Aya's dad.

Also I still think Kyotaka and Sakura will end up as a couple at some point.

[joshindabarrel]

Thank you Cinnamon. I think it’s weird how Ayanokouji says winning is everything, but he still doesn’t actively seek to reach class A. How do you think he defines winning?

[Xero8420]

Thank you Cinnamon. I think it’s weird how Ayanokouji says winning is everything, but he still doesn’t actively seek to reach class A. How do you think he defines winning?

Either winning to survive or winning to get he wants for his own life & not about success, I guess.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

reading the latest translations, Horikita is really sour with 50%, what happened between them in vol 6 must have been ugly.

that's when he needs to show who the alpha male is.

The guy already has so many enemies, and the worst of them, Ayanopapa still needs to make a move, he really distanced himself from the peaceful life he wanted.

[vietthai96]

Now guys don't make me get overhype with Ayano x Ichinose ship or i will die by heart attack :heh:

There are many kind of winning, life is not a math where is only one correct answer, and Emiya Shirou was once said: even if you are correct that doesn't mean you are right :heh:

[Cinnamon]

reading the latest translations, Horikita is really sour with 50%, what happened between them in vol 6 must have been ugly.


It happened at the end of volume 5 and I think that made her realise what kind of person he really is. She has been sour of him from then on, but she at least tries to make him cooperate (as long as he feels like it). That was the reason for those early spoilers about her being wary of him.

If this is what happens when people find out who he really is, I feel really sorry for when it's Sakura's turn to find out.

[Miso]

It happened at the end of volume 5 and I think that made her realise what kind of person he really is. She has been sour of him from then on, but she at least tries to make him cooperate (as long as he feels like it). That was the reason for those early spoilers about her being wary of him.

If this is what happens when people find out who he really is, I feel really sorry for when it's Sakura's turn to find out.

I love Sakura and that is why I think the sooner her so called fall happens the better since she could grow then. But I just hope Kingusa won't be too brutal by showing her the real Ayanokoji and Hasabe's betrayal ( still hope this doesn't happen since I love their friendship, but I feel there is just too much forshadowing) in the close time span or like in a day. Because then I will fear for her mental state.

[sasabit]

If you dont mind me asking, what happened at the end of v5 between Horikita and Ayanokouji? :o

[Cinnamon]

If you dont mind me asking, what happened at the end of v5 between Horikita and Ayanokouji? :o

I have skipped most events and just focused on the main "theme".
During the athletic festival, Ayanon tried sabotaging Horikita's strategy of using only the best students in the personal sport events using Kei to suggest letting all students enter if they want. Kushida betrays her class and gives all info about participants to Ryuuen. Ryuuen uses the info to make a plan to attack Sudou, the MVP of class D and Horikita which he promised to attack in v4. Sudou loses to Ryuuen's provocations and quits everything raging, then hits Hirata etc, Horikita falls in Ryuuen's trap and is accused of injuring another student from class C, and is forced to bow to him and pay ammendments being pressured by Ryuuen planning to take it to the student council, Manabu. Horikita gets time to think Kushida reveals her true colours and declares she wants Horikita expelled. The old Horikita is broken down. She realises she needs an ally and since Sudou is also in the same position as her, she tries to talk with him.
Horikita and Sudou reconciles their differences and becomes partners and joins the fray, Ayanon decides to run against Manabu. Horikita tries catch Ryuuen in a trap, he counters with his own, she says she has lost and is about to admit losing, Ryuuen gets a voice message from X with a voice recording where Ryuuen plans on using Kinoshita against Horikita etc. Since it was sent at the end of the day, Ryuuen realises X didn't care about what happened to Horikita, only that his plan was to let Ryuuen and Kushida do what they wanted and crush her to make her realise how weak she is, Ryuuen thinks only Ayanokouji can do this but there are still other suspects. Horikita thinks only Ayanon could have sent that message. Ayanon wanted to silence Ryuuen more than helping her. Horikita, Ryuuen and thus Kushida realises they were all pawns used by X.

Class D now has a leader in Horikita and is ready to fight again.

[sasabit]

Cool, thanks! Why does Ryuuen suspect Ayanokouji so much even before the rooftop confrontation? Is Ayanokouji leaving tracks behind for Ryuuen to find?

[tuckersister]

Looking forward when the LN gets to parent's day. It would be interesting to meet certain students' family other than the ones we know. Kiyo's dad won't show up (there reason for to) but someone from his family may show.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Wow, 50% hinting that it may have a gripping power greater than 100 kg, monster.

[AP24]

Vol 8 will be out in late April.

[vietthai96]

Wow, 50% hinting that it may have a gripping power greater than 100 kg, monster.
I hope it don't turn out to be another Assassination Classroom :twitch:

[pervypig]

Ok, finally caught up in the LN eons after the anime...

But ima kinda shocked that 50% is aiming to expel Kushida (boobs... no...). If he'd planned to do so, why not do it earlier when she's threatening him with cry-rape? And if he was only using her all along, why not use her for even longer? It's not like things are going to change even if she's around right?

Also, something struck me about the school itself; 50% came here to hide from papa, and it's the school chairman that gave him refuge. But keep in mind that this is the same chairman from the same school that encourages ostracizing class D and allow buying of grades from the students' pocket $. What's the point of keeping a boy who's running away from home in your school just so that you can expel him using all kinds of absurd reasons?

It makes no fugging sense to put 50% in class D in the first place if even the chairman stood up for him. Assuming that they're just following "Normal procedure", I'd be amazed because according to many of the student profiles from A-D, not a few whose stats are on average "C-D" are in class B and C, whereas some in class D are well suited for A. You can justify putting a good student (both academic and otherwise) in a bad class, but how do you justify putting a bad student in a good class?

If, for the sake of argument, that was 50%'s own wish, how the fug did bitch-sensei managed to blackmail him? He should know that's just bullshit at once (and he did), but he still accepted her request. It makes me wonder why he even bothered to join this school in the first place. Surely, if he's content to just "hide from dad", not joining any public (government) school would be the best. You can say that, 'oh, that's what his butler tells him', but wait, this is a guy that has Light's level of sophistication, and you're telling me that he went to this hellhole of school just cos his butler told him? Too much logic bomb there...

Well, just moi thoughts on what I find inconsistent in the LN, but what d'ya guys think?

[Cinnamon]

Well, just moi thoughts on what I find inconsistent in the LN, but what d'ya guys think?

As for Kushida he can only expel her he if he has hard evidence, his only evidence he could have used was the paper Kei hid on her(v6) and that expired a while ago.

I don't know why people think the school is ostracising class D at all. All students were put more or less randomly with a few top students in each and a few trash in each(v7, just like how it would be out in real life). What happens later is the class' responsibility. Class D had top students like Horikita, Hirata, Yukimura and Kushida but Hirata and Kushida was too focused on being friends with each other, Yukimura and Horikita used much energy on complaining on their class, thus the whole class slacked off and in the end lost all their points. Remember, the school has been strict on being fair to every class and student. The only people getting expelled are the ones who can't survive the wolves' den. It is a meritocracy after all.

If you read v7 again, remember that the chairman wanted Chabashira to take care of him and give him a reason to stay at the school since he came from a place devoid of love. They decided to fake that his dad wanted him out. Then it really happened which was not a part of her plan. She realises his mistake was to try to use her, and he... why am I explaining it to someone who has already read it? :P Sorry for wasting your time.
Anyway, I don't know why people think Chabashira and Ayanon are on bad terms unless they skimmed v7.

[pervypig]

I don't know why people think the school is ostracising class D at all. All students were put more or less randomly with a few top students in each and a few trash in each(v7, just like how it would be out in real life).


Thx for clarifying on Bitchshida, ima at vol 7 at the moment, but the school had really been ostracizing all class Ds. In the LN, from Vol 1 onwards; bitch-sensei "conveniently forgot" about the mid-term topics 1 week before the test (all the other classes had been duly informed) - then Vol 2 had the school delaying giving out the points just when Sudou's affair happened, and then conveniently letting the students duke it out.

Hey, class C got away with shit-loads of things, including damage of property, bullying and extortion, and you're telling me that you're expelling class D students for fighting with other class? (And, as bitch-sensei implies, trumped-up charges work too) Why take them in in the first place?

The way this school works really makes me sleepless at night. Sure, you can say that's a near-perfect simulation of real-life and society. There's even this guy who conned 1st yr of pts till he got 12 million, and got expelled. I bet the 1st years that got their points conned won't get them back either, cos that's how RL works. Now, let's take it one step further and ask: "How much points does it take to expel a student from the school? Or buy a prostitute's service? Or get drugs? Access child-porn sites?" The possibilities are practically infinite, since as long as it is within the school's compound, anything can be bought with points.

Fridge horror in the making.

[Cinnamon]

Thx for clarifying on Bitchshida, ima at vol 7 at the moment, but the school had really been ostracizing all class Ds. In the LN, from Vol 1 onwards; bitch-sensei "conveniently forgot" about the mid-term topics 1 week before the test (all the other classes had been duly informed) - then Vol 2 had the school delaying giving out the points just when Sudou's affair happened, and then conveniently letting the students duke it out.

Hey, class C got away with shit-loads of things, including damage of property, bullying and extortion, and you're telling me that you're expelling class D students for fighting with other class? (And, as bitch-sensei implies, trumped-up charges work too) Why take them in in the first place?

The way this school works really makes me sleepless at night. Sure, you can say that's a near-perfect simulation of real-life and society. There's even this guy who conned 1st yr of pts till he got 12 million, and got expelled. I bet the 1st years that got their points conned won't get them back either, cos that's how RL works. Now, let's take it one step further and ask: "How much points does it take to expel a student from the school? Or buy a prostitute's service? Or get drugs? Access child-porn sites?" The possibilities are practically infinite, since as long as it is within the school's compound, anything can be bought with points.

Fridge horror in the making.

Teachers at the school are actually not obligated to tell them about midterm-test because it's expected that students study for them anyway since it will appear. Chabashira never tells them much because she is not obligated to babysit them, they are high schoolers already and should be able to discern what they have to do without being told. Take responsibility for their own learning as they say.

Withholding points while waiting for the incident to be cleared up shows that getting in trouble will affect their points so waiting for the verdict is pretty clear. This is also how students like Ichinose, Ayanon and Horikita could guess that getting expelled will affect their class points.

Class C getting away with various thing is due to the school not managing to see everything that's happening to matter how many cameras they have. If they are caught, you bet they will suffer. Though the (now many) times they got caught, Ayanon did not use it to his advantage so that's his loss.

As for how much points does it take to (something something), it should be clear once you have finished that one scene before the rooftop in v7 as Ayanon asks Chabashira about it in a roundabout way. I hope I'm not spoiling too much for you since you are still reading:)

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I hope it don't turn out to be another Assassination Classroom :twitch:

impossible for that to happen the whole class should be murderers, and half of the students appear to be mediocre.

[thefreakmike]

And their teacher needs to be forever-smiling yellow octopus

[pervypig]

You know, there's no indication at all about 50%'s true motives and all, but I'm wondering if he's actually his dad's spy all along - all that talk about 'tools', 'winning is everything', and lying low etc. I won't be surprised if it was all his dad's ploy to send his boy out to infiltrate the school that simulate RL, just to get a feel for how it's like before he unleashes his monster out to take over the country.

If the chairman knew about it, of course he's gonna kick him out, so 50% definitely got to stay low and avoid getting into trouble (or expelled) as much as possible. Then, when the school starts getting suspicious of their true intention, the dad got to step in and pretend to 'want his son out', so that they'd keep him in. How's that for a plot...

[kuudererules]

today is Kei Karuizawa's birthday
otanjoubi omedettou

http://i.4cdn.org/a/1520441288099.jpg

[AnimeFangirl]

That cake looks amazing... *drools*

[Cinnamon]

I have a feeling Karuizawa must have been nearby when this happened in V1, chapter 7:

It’s the first weekend of May. Ike and the others started listening to the teachers silently. Only Sudou kept sleeping through class, but no one tried to stop him. Because no one find a reliable way of increasing our points, Sudou’s habits were not fixed.

However, Sudou still received the ire of a lot of the classmates every day.

… I’m sleepy too. Because it’s the period right before lunch, it’s hard to stay awake. I also stayed up late watching a movie. It’d be great if I could fall asleep now…

“Tauwa!? (W-whoah!? in ConfusedTLs)”

As I was nodding off, my right arm experienced some severe pain.

“What is it, Ayanokouji? You suddenly shouted. Is this your rebellious age?”

“N-no. Sorry, Chiyabashira-sensei. Some dust entered my eye…”

Normally, the students would’ve started whispering, but they stayed quiet and sent me glances instead, still being wary of the points. Rubbing the sore part of my arm, I glared at my neighbor. In my line of sight, I saw Horikita holding a compass needle in her hand

[cyberdemon]

well its class time so she would be since they are in the same class

[pervypig]

Finally finished Vol. 7.5,

Fugging akano even plans to use karuizawa as a fugging honeypot seductress to drag down the school's director.

bashtard...

[Miso]

Finally finished Vol. 7.5,

Fugging akano even plans to use karuizawa as a fugging honeypot seductress to drag down the school's director.

bashtard...
Dude calm down. He instantly backtracks wheh he says that she would't be capable of doing that.

[ivaannom]

https://i.imgur.com/XAHsqdi.jpg

[Jason25th]

https://i.imgur.com/XAHsqdi.jpg

I can only see Kei and Kiyotaka in this image lmao. The cover is cool! Also, she let her hair grow, she is so cute!!

[pervypig]

^ I thought that was ibuki and kei... srry, not really interested in guys unless they crossdress and look cute.

[n0m@n]

That is a nice cover. Volume 8...drool. V7.5 is a side dish so having the main dish come is good indeed.

[maton456full]

Well volume 8 got delayed , seems the author was injured in his hand . The Twitter of Youjitsu says that's If it's not a serious injury it's going to be released in May.
https://twitter.com/youkosozitsu/status/981728381954863104?s=20
https://twitter.com/youkosozitsu/status/981728132485996544?s=20

[Liselotte-sama]

No way! :( :( :(

[pervypig]

Why would author's hand injury delay a release so late into the release date announcement? I'd have thought the manuscript have been long submitted - I don't know bout LN much, but science journal editors take virtually half a yr to sit on one submission with back and forth editorial stuff. Don't tell me that they need the author to sit for autographs before they can actually release it.

[tuckersister]

This is kind of embarrassing you know. This is gonna ticking off a lot of fans with THIS excuse.

[kuudererules]

meanwhile new tapestry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaBRR49WAAAfuOE.jpg

[Lhklan]

meanwhile new tapestry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaBRR49WAAAfuOE.jpg

Bow down to the King and Queen.

[thefreakmike]

Mhhh... they do look very good together

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Mhhh... they do look very good together

two geniuses with psychopathic tendencies.


but why the illustration? To calm the fans after the announcement of the delay of the volume?

[Kiyoe]

https://i.imgur.com/u9Ztcym.jpg

[Wandering Soul]

meanwhile new tapestry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaBRR49WAAAfuOE.jpg
I hope we get to see more interactions between these two soon.

[thefreakmike]

To bad Sakayanagi might break if she and Ayanokouji get some action, she will at least be left on a wheelchair :heh:

[Liselotte-sama]

Does that mean we'll get a decent amount of Sakayanagi "action" in this volume? :D

[pervypig]

I had always thought that Arisu is secretly hiding a sword inside her cane. I mean, nobody knows 50% is an Olympic runner until sports day, right. Sakayanagi must be hiding something in that 'frail' body of hers too.

[SilverGlavenus]

^Oh yeah, I'm waiting for the moment when Kiyotaka challenges her to a race. :heh:

[Vaans]

https://i.imgur.com/u9Ztcym.jpg

Those nice tights covered in a nice white stockings with garter belt strap. Makes her a little erotic. Oh boiii

[Mirable]

https://i.imgur.com/u9Ztcym.jpg
If somehow they have a kid together, I feel pity for their poor kid.

[SilverGlavenus]

If somehow they have a kid together, I feel pity for their poor kid.

The kid will have a frail body like mom, while also being a battle maniac like dad.

[thefreakmike]

I’ll rather pity the kid’s classmates; they’ll be like his own personal pawns :heh:

[Lhklan]

The kid will have a frail body like mom, while also being a battle maniac like dad.

Since when was 50man a battle maniac? He has always been the "Leave me alone or I'll fuck you up" type.

I’ll rather pity the kid’s classmates; they’ll be like his own personal pawns :heh:

Yup. In fact, I dare say that their child would probably be the shadow leader of the entire school come year 2.

[SilverGlavenus]

Since when was 50man a battle maniac? He has always been the "Leave me alone or I'll fuck you up"

He is when someone flips his switch tho. :heh:

[LG-MAX 2.o]

So finally volume 5 is in the part where the PoV passed to Horikita, and I have a doubt, if it is in that part where occurs race between 50% vs Oni-sama, then we will see this race of the Horikita PoV?

Volume 5 is very good, but so far I think 4 is better.

ps: Sakayanagi is sexier than it looks.

[tuckersister]

Which two characters would you think would be an okay married couple?

[Liselotte-sama]

Which two characters would you think would be an okay married couple?
Ayanokouji x Manabu

[Subarukyun]

Which two characters would you think would be an okay married couple?
Horikita and Ayanokouji :D

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Which two characters would you think would be an okay married couple?

Horikita and sudou.

[pervypig]

Ayanokouji and Yosuke

Proof they are for each other -
Vol 1: When Yosuke ask whether anyone wanna join him for lunch, Ayano tried desperately to catch his attention.
Vol 2: Ayano exclaimed:"Yosuke, you're so cool, you should change your name to Hero.", and then again "I'd surely fall for him if I'm a girl"
Vol 3: Yosuke protected Ayano even though he found him with Kei's panties. Same vol, Ayano woke Yosuke from his dark moment of BSOD
Vol 4: Yosuke chose to go to lunch with Ayano over Kei, same volume revealed that he's not really Kei's BF.
Vol 6: Yosuke told Ayano that he already knows he is the mastermind behind Class D, Ayano replied: "It's not like I'm doing it cause I wanna be your hero or anything..." (ok, not exactly, but that's how it sounds like)
Vol 7.5: Went on double date with Maya Sato, Ayano spent more time talking with Yosuke than any of the girls.

Find me anyone else that Ayano has a better relationship with.

Horikita = pawn, as of Vol 7.5 not even that obedient, (she's trying to protect Kushida from Ayano)
Kushida = damned bitch that he's gonna kick
Kei = pawn that he has around his little finger
Airi = Friend-zoned
Sato = rejected
Mio = rival
Ichinose = friend-zone/rival
Sakayanagi = rival

You see, none of the girls actually fits.

[Liselotte-sama]

Fair enough.

[Miso]

Your post was meh. It has funny parts, but it also has too much cringe at some points so it is just ok I guess.

[pervypig]

Bah, I just dun try to self-insert myself into some loser who'd try pretend to be "ordinary hi-skool student even though ima genius", that's all. LN protags are all riajus who should all just go die or become gay so that the girls can stay and become proper fap materials.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Find me anyone else that Ayano has a better relationship with.


I would not call it better, but Sakura is the only person who until now 50% had no dark thoughts about, even Kei who is for many the soulmate still suffers from it

but as 50% is curious, maybe he will try homosexuality.

But I still want to know what role Ibuki will have, it's strange she gets so much focus and nothing at all.

[Rimbo99]

So far from what I get, Ayanokouji was this child test subject for some sort of project. Regardless whether it was successful or not, Ayanokouji has a mindset to win at any cost if only to maintain his freedom. I wonder if Ayanokouji's role will grow beyond his initial goal.

Also, if im getting this, these are the list of Ayanokouji's love interests be it full interest or one sided.

1. Airi

2. Kei

3. Haruka

4. Maya

5. Hiyori

6. Arisu

[LG-MAX 2.o]

So far from what I get, Ayanokouji was this child test subject for some sort of project. Regardless whether it was successful or not, Ayanokouji has a mindset to win at any cost if only to maintain his freedom. I wonder if Ayanokouji's role will grow beyond his initial goal.

Also, if im getting this, these are the list of Ayanokouji's love interests be it full interest or one sided.

1. Airi

2. Kei

3. Haruka

4. Maya

5. Hiyori

6. Arisu

1 - Airi is completely in love with him and has tendencies to become a yandere, but until now he only sees her as a friend, if she confesses to him, she will be rejected.

2 - Has the best chances, but unlike Airi, Ayanokouji eventually has dark thoughts on her.

3 - Just interested in alpha males, have some interest in 50%, but nothing deep while not sure if he is an alpha or not.

4 - Was rejected, whether she will give up or not, we will not know in the future, personally I have not seen anything too much in her.

5 - She sees him as someone who can start a friendship, but nothing so far.

6 - She wants obtain him, defeat him, then take his clothes off, put a chain around his neck and whip him. (well, 60% of that is my impression of it). So far he does not take her seriously.

[pervypig]

1. Airi - Friend-zoned. I didn't make this up, ayano said himself (Vol. 7.5)

2. Kei - Parasite+Host relationship, that's what kei and ayano call themselves

3. Haruka - 50% didn't even know she's ogling his hot-bod

4. Maya - ditched, water over the bridge

5. Hiyori - interesting you actually throw her up here, even though she only showed up for 2 vol, I do have some good impression of her (thanks to those strip of smooth, pale flesh grade S zettai ryouiki that rival Sakayanagi). She's in the tea ceremony club btw, and Ayano did say that he took up tea ceremony, so I guess that's somewhere to start with, (but fug 50%, go back and gay with yosuke)

6. Arisu - Pretty much what LG said.

[pervypig]

First of all, this shipping discussion does not belong to this thread to be honest, brings nothing to the table and is something that should stay on places like /a/.

Second, what a load of horseshit what you're posting about the current relationship with Kei. They're equals at this point in the LN after all what happened, they're not Parasite+host so I suggest you to at least read the thread or the LN before posting some bullshit.

My, sorry to light your boat, I kinda forgot that this thread got taken off due to all that 4chan business, but hey, I didn't start that. By the way, can you actually quote the chapter where ayano actually call kei an 'equal'? As far as I could tell, he only asked her why she changed back to calling Yosuke from Hirata, while he call her 'Kei'. All the other expectations is one-sided. Ah, you must talking bout that very last sentence where ayano say:"if it's her, maybe she can become more than friends." Well, I won't deny Kei's the author's waifu, after all, but atm, they ain't and that's all there is to it.

P.S: It's not convincing, when just the chapter before, 50% was pondering how to use Kei seduce the school's director, and saying she probably can't handle the sex part... key word here is intent, you don't even dream pimping out your comrades, much less waifu - unless u are into NTR

[LG-MAX 2.o]

First of all, this shipping discussion does not belong to this thread to be honest, brings nothing to the table and is something that should stay on places like /a/.

Second, what a load of horseshit what you're posting about the current relationship with Kei. They're equals at this point in the LN after all what happened, they're not Parasite+host so I suggest you to at least read the thread or the LN before posting some bullshit.

I recognize that they have the best relationship in the series, but 50% is very contradictory with what he says and what he thinks, at volume 7 while he rationalizes everything about she being the best possible tool and then says that none of that matters, at volume 7.5 he says she could be used as a honey trap and then thinks she would never do it, and if we go back in the series from the beginning, has the questions about Horikita, where he is afraid of her, shows concern and at other times thinks of her as a useless and unimportant being, Hirata can be included in this as well.

Ayanokouji is too contradictory in his thoughts, we only know that he will do what he can to win.

Sakura is the only one who has not gone through this, she's always been a friend.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

this still would not explain the thoughts and actions he takes regarding Horikita and Hirata, although thinking that he is learning to be human can be answer.

Ayanokouji changed a lot in the way he value the people around him being Kei the only one that holds a place in the stage where she can walk at his side as equals.

I agree with the part where you said that he is open to explore his future with Kei, but I still do not think he has reached this stage, yes, he asked for her help and called her partner, but 50% still not truly learned how to respond to other people's feelings, she is undoubtedly the person he trusts the most, but that does not mean that he totally trusts her, being prepared to be betrayed is part of his nature (not that Kei will do that) I say that because there are several things he left out during the conversation between them in the end, he asked her to help him face Nagumo, but during his thoughts, he himself said that in the worst case, he would dismiss the Nagumo question, and the real threats to him are: President Sakayanagi, Sae-sensei, and Ayanopapa, and none of this was said to Kei, does he want to protect her? or does he think she will not be useful in such matters?

only the next volumes will tell how he will act.

[pervypig]

Many people who ship Ayano with the girls tend to forget that he's one bloody cold bastard who don't deserve to be in a relationship. In case you forgot, since vol. 1, he had been doing nothing but trying to win through whatever means necessary.

With Horikita, at least she deserved part of his antics, but what about Ichinose or even Airi? In Vol. 6, he used Ryuen's name to defame everyone's favorite Mary-Sue Ichinose by stuffing trash-mail. Unprovoked, by the way. Heck, as far back as Vol. 3, he baited Yamauchi to dump mud on Horikita's head with, guess what, Airi's email. Granted he didn't give Airi's email to him in the end, would Airi be happy to know that someone she got a crush on was using her? With Kei, he COULD have saved her earlier, but decided to let them rough her up for a freaking 45 min, until even he himself got worried she might have caught a cold. Latest issue does nothing to assure me that his bastard methods won't continue.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for any of the canon/non-canon ships out there. Ayano works fine being a cold calculative bastard. Think Rance without all the hentai, but I really can't take any of the ships out there seriously. Oh, but with Yosuke, it might actually work...

[tuckersister]

Ayano treats Airi different than the others.

[sasabit]

Huh, Hirata knows Ayanokouji is mastermind? How did he figure that out and how did he reveal it to Ayanokouji?

[Miso]

Ayano treats Airi different than the others.

Yes she is the only one he treats like a little sister.

[pervypig]

Huh, Hirata knows Ayanokouji is mastermind? How did he figure that out and how did he reveal it to Ayanokouji?

In case people still accuse me of "horse-shitting", it's during the last chapter of Vol. 6. Ryuen was sending his cronies full force to locate class D's mastermind, and Yosuke just came up to Ayano from behind in the morning, commenting that Kei seems like she's jealous of Maya (due to her asking Ayano out), Yosuke then said the guy Ryuen's trying to find must be 50%, Ayano said:"I'm not some hero, nor am I trying to hide my identity. I just don't want to draw attention (that I'm gay, well not really). This is my true thoughts, and true words from my heart." And guess what Yosuke responded:"I would help you with everything I can." That's one heck of BL flag...

[cyberdemon]

In case people still accuse me of "horse-shitting", it's during the last chapter of Vol. 6. Ryuen was sending his cronies full force to locate class D's mastermind, and Yosuke just came up to Ayano from behind in the morning, commenting that Kei seems like she's jealous of Maya (due to her asking Ayano out), Yosuke then said the guy Ryuen's trying to find must be 50%, Ayano said:"I'm not some hero, nor am I trying to hide my identity. I just don't want to draw attention (that I'm gay, well not really). This is my true thoughts, and true words from my heart." And guess what Yosuke responded:"I would help you with everything I can." That's one heck of BL flag...

Still betting that friend of hiratas that killed himself was actually his secret boyfriend. That is why he was fine just doing a fake relationship with Kei rather than using it to seek a real one with her.

[tuckersister]

I can't wait til the LN does parents' day. I hope learn more about Kiyo's family other than his shitty dad. I don't believe everyone in his family are asses.

[kuudererules]

cover manga vol 6

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da3x3pDW0AI7z36.jpg

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I can't wait til the LN does parents' day. I hope learn more about Kiyo's family other than his shitty dad. I don't believe everyone in his family are asses.

but contact with the family is banned for 3 years, I do not think there will be such an event.

[tuckersister]

Will we find out more about other members of his family?

[kuudererules]

Comic Alive June 2018 issue cover

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbdqKJ8W0AIlFcF.jpg

Also another SS will be released on 27th April

[DragonOsman]

I'm sorry if I shouldn't ask this here, but I'll just now and worry later: What's going on with the fan-translations for this series? I see that Volume 2 isn't completely translated and that there are no translations for Volumes 5 and 6 either, as well as nothing after Volume 7 (if there are already Volumes after that) on Google Drive. And even the Volumes on Google Drive might not be completely translated (haven't checked yet). I want to read, but I really won't even start if the translations aren't complete. No offense to anyone.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

you need to go to hell to get those translations, or in pastebin,


currently volume 5 is close to being closed.

talking about it, in this last update, it's funny how Horikita underestimates Ayanokouji so much that he could not be useful in this last problem. My God.

[pervypig]

It's interesting relly how much growth Horikita got from Vol. 3 when she first recognized 50%'s abilities to Vol. 6 where she actually steps up as a leader and not just a puppet. If You-Zit has an end and I have to guess who Ayano's ultimate rival would be, I won't be surprised if it's Horikita - just think about it, the pet dragon you raised comes back to bite you back in the end. That'd be a fitting end for the cold bastard that ayano is.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

It's interesting relly how much growth Horikita got from Vol. 3 when she first recognized 50%'s abilities to Vol. 6 where she actually steps up as a leader and not just a puppet. If You-Zit has an end and I have to guess who Ayano's ultimate rival would be, I won't be surprised if it's Horikita - just think about it, the pet dragon you raised comes back to bite you back in the end. That'd be a fitting end for the cold bastard that ayano is.

Youkoso vol 25 - Horikita Faction vs Ayanokouji faction

[thefreakmike]

Classroom of the Elite: Civil War

[Jason25th]

Youkoso vol 25 - Horikita Faction vs Ayanokouji faction

This will happen sooner than you think

Horikita and Kushida vs Kiyotaka. I fear for their safety

[LG-MAX 2.o]

This will happen sooner than you think

Horikita and Kushida vs Kiyotaka. I fear for their safety

I thought of something like, they already in the 3rd year, last exam, in a scenario where Sakura and Haruka already know who 50% is for real, and Kushida and Horikita are best friends, etc.

[Jason25th]

I thought of something like, they already in the 3rd year, last exam, in a scenario where Sakura and Haruka already know who 50% is for real, and Kushida and Horikita are best friends, etc.
I bet Kushida will not last up to the 3rd year

[tuckersister]

I bet Kushida will not last up to the 3rd year

How's that?

[pervypig]

Whoa, 3rd yr already in the plans? What is this, mahouka? But don't forget the little kouhais that would show up too.
According to Vol 7.5, future special exams involve all years from 1-3, so we might move past all these current ship wars that are so getting stale and add some fresh blood, i mean freshmen. Can totally see "senpai Ayano" corrupting young minds to do his foul bidding already.

[sasabit]

I love how nervous Horikita is around her brother lol... I wish Ayanokouji would become friends with Manabu, he's like my fav character in the novel xD

[Iroha Isshiki]

Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e will end like this....

-50% man wrecking havoc in school
-50% man crushing Nagumo and his cronies, trigerring a NTR drama against Nagumo
-50% man exposing Ichinose as a bitch, playing with her until she breaks.
-Ryuuen will become 50% man's right hand man and also serves as a henchman
-50% man taming all the teachers in school
-50% man ignoring Arisu, considering her as a broken toy
-Horikita and Kushida teaming up against 50% man only to find out that 50% man just toying with them
-50% man getting a romance candidate from the senpais and kouhais, a 2nd year and 3rd year heroines as well as new student heroine
-All the heroines will be getting a fair exposure in developing their own route to 50% man
-Showdown between 50% man and his biological father
-At some point, 50% man and his right hand man and cronies will be considered a threat fighting an alliance of students consisting of new students and old factions
-50% man uniting all the factions in the school
-50% man achieving his much awaited normal life in the surface
-50% man will make the school his base against the foreign invasion of government
-50% man destroying the people behind the project which he was into and responsible of creating him
-50% man nullifying the expulsion of some students, bringing them back through points
-Final showdown between 50% man and his biological father
-Final showdown between heroines/romance candidate(women) in determining who will be 50% man main wife, but there is a surprising plot twist,
-50% man acknowledging all the woman/romance candidates resolve earning him a harem with a main wife.

You guys will thank me 4 years from now.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Youkoso should end up as John Wick, Ayanopapa sends a mercenary team to school, 50% kills each of them, but in the end an even bigger force invades the school, he runs away and then starts to be hunted around the world.

Who cares about school drama?

[pervypig]

^ chill, bro. Can't relly blame all this FF from popping up with all the release delay. If you gotta blame someone, blame the author for injuring his hand and delaying the latest release.

If we gonna start a speculation thread though, I'd have to guess Ayano may eventually have to come to terms with his inhuman methods against his growing awareness of human relationships.
If you think about it, leaving Horikita out to soak up a fever in Vol 3, and leaving a wet Kei out in the winter for 45 min, are rather damnable means that can hardly justify his goal of merely wanting to stay in school. I won't count him framing Kushida with cheating, but using Ryuen to start a smear campaign on Ichinose is definitely bastardy (especially when she never planned anything against he himself).

If his growing sense of humanity amounts to anything at all, it would have to stop him, or at least think twice about planning such things. Who knows, for the sake of drama, he may have to decide between his friends or to stay in school.

Personally, I'd prefer it if the author keeps him a cold uncaring bastard.

[Endless_Despair]

drama, he may have to decide between his friends or to stay in school.

Personally, I'd prefer it if the author keeps him a cold uncaring bastard.

He'll be staying at school. Kei has a monologue from Volume 4 where she says that Ayanokouji is the most important person to her in her 3 years at the school. So at the very least this confirms that both her and Ayanokouji will not be expelled.

Also another thing to point out is that Kinugasa has already said in one of his afterwords that Ayanokouji will go beyond friendship with one of the girls meaning that this series will NOT end with a harem or an open one.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

He'll be staying at school. Kei has a monologue from Volume 4 where she says that Ayanokouji is the most important person to her in her 3 years at the school. So at the very least this confirms that both her and Ayanokouji will not be expelled.


He was the most important person to her for 3 years, but this still has a certain amount of interpretations, like after 3 years she started to shit at him, or their love affair lasted only during that time. etc.

Personally, I hope the series goes beyond school drama.

[Jason25th]

This new SS implies that Kadokawa will invest heavy on this ship.
I don't think anyone expected anything like that.

[readher]

Maybe they'll invest by giving YP the license :P It would certainly be better to do so now while there aren't that many volumes out yet.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

This new SS implies that Kadokawa will invest heavy on this ship.
I don't think anyone expected anything like that.

they can invest as much as they want, I just do not want because of that, they have to power up Kei's skills just to please her fans, or put her in part of the story where there's no need, that was one of the things that destroyed Index for me in relation to how Mikoto was used.

[Miso]

He was the most important person to her for 3 years, but this still has a certain amount of interpretations, like after 3 years she started to shit at him, or their love affair lasted only during that time. etc.

Personally, I hope the series goes beyond school drama.
I just don't understand you. Like please read things more carefully. Her sentence was basicly calling him the most important person in her life at that moment. In those three years he became that, not that he was. Stop deluding other people just cause you don't like the character. You don't need to like her ship, but at least be objective when you talk about her as a character. Note I am not talking about shipping (not mentioning Ayanokoji feeling or anything), I am just saying in those three years he became irreplacable person to her. Now we don't now how the mc feels at that point, but we know that she definitly likes him.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I just don't understand you. Like please read things more carefully. Her sentence was basicly calling him the most important person in her life at that moment. In those three years he became that, not that he was. Stop deluding other people just cause you don't like the character. You don't need to like her ship, but at least be objective when you talk about her as a character. Note I am not talking about shipping (not mentioning Ayanokoji feeling or anything), I am just saying in those three years he became irreplacable person to her. Now we don't now how the mc feels at that point, but we know that she definitly likes him.

In my three years of school life, he would become the most important and irreplaceable person, but at this very moment I wasn’t aware of it.

if you read my posts, you would see that I do not hate or idolize any characters in this series.

And as I said before, Kei's phrase has many interpretations, ranging from, they maintain a loving relationship only during the period they are in school and separating later (which would be a normal thing, because the purpose of this series is to be something different and keeping human relationships close to reality, marrying the first person you fall in love with and hoping to live happily ever after is such a naive and optimistic thought that it sounds like something of a fairy tale, and that story has not proposed anything like that until now ), or after school they have a child and Ayanokouji is no longer the most important person for her. Please do not confuse me with people who have waifus or ships, I judge the series based on the information I have.

[Cinnamon]

In my three years of school life, he would become the most important and irreplaceable person, but at this very moment I wasn’t aware of it.

This translation is a bit inaccurate. The correct one would be:

During my three years of school life, he would become my most dearest/precious and irreplaceable person, but at this very moment I wasn't aware of it.

日本国語大辞典 has some definitions for 大切:

1. 一番必要で、重んずべき物であること。貴重であること。肝要であること。

4. 心をくばってていねいに取り扱うこと。大事にすること。かけがえのないものとして心から愛する さま。

Number 4 is one that is mainly used for 大切な (人・物). A machine or a quick translation usually will miss these nuances.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

This translation is a bit inaccurate. The correct one would be:



日本国語大辞典 has some definitions for 大切:

1. 一番必要で、重んずべき物であること。貴重であること。肝要であること。

4. 心をくばってていねいに取り扱うこと。大事にすること。かけがえのないものとして心から愛する さま。

Number 4 is one that is mainly used for 大切な (人・物). A machine or a quick translation usually will miss these nuances.

taking advantage of you are here, I have a doubt, by chance during Ayano vs Ryuuen, Ayano gets half of the fight lying on the ground with his back to the ground? I have this impression, and it has happened that I go there to read and then add more translated scenes.

[Kiyoe]

https://i.imgur.com/fbGz9ka.jpg

[Jason25th]

https://i.imgur.com/fbGz9ka.jpg

Kei didn't need "this"

[pervypig]

https://i.imgur.com/fbGz9ka.jpg

Ooooh, boobs...Too bad Kei won't be wearing bikini irl due to her scars any time soon...

[Jason25th]

Kei is becoming pretty popular. She will be on the Comic Alive's cover again in the next month

[Rimbo99]

Eventhough the anime bombed but I do hope we have Season 2 if anything ending with Kei getting together with Ayanokouji.

[Lhklan]

Eventhough the anime bombed but I do hope we have Season 2 if anything ending with Kei getting together with Ayanokouji.

Wait, what? I thought that the anime did relatively average, with the interest spiking up after Ayanokouji's monologue?

[LG-MAX 2.o]

is a dream that matches Kei's passionate damsel in the last volume.

But if we treat this as an appetizer for volume 8. then still owed.

[kuudererules]

preview illustration vol 8 that came in Comic Alive

from left: Miyabi Nagumo, Amulet girl ? and Kiriyama ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuCuAAX0AAHGZR.jpg

[maton456full]

By the way Youjitsu Manga will get hatius until the August Issue . We will get new chapter in June

[LG-MAX 2.o]

eager to see Nagumo having this baby face take a beating.

By the way Youjitsu Manga will get hatius until the August Issue . We will get new chapter in July.


I thought the manga would end now, it's the most hated media by the series' fans.

[pervypig]

Lol, the irony - people complaining about the quality of a thread on some public forum, when even the director of the anime and the manga-artist screwed up with their own interpretations of the book. Gotta say it's really a pity cos Youkouso is not a bad LN by a long shot.

And wtf... I gotta wait another month for Vol 8?!?

[Endless_Despair]

By the way Youjitsu Manga will get hatius until the August Issue . We will get new chapter in June

Not surprising since the manga has just finished covering Volume 3 and will be moving onto Volume 4 content which is beyond the anime.

[kuudererules]

Vol 8 synopsis

Along with the beginning of the third semester, all students at the Advanced Development High School will be invited to the school building in the mountains.

The name of the special exam carried out is "mixed training camp". Separate the first grade into six groups by gender. He said that he will join the group for two or three years as well.

Bonus points will be given to the top three groups where the average points of all the students who finally belonged are high, while the lowest group manager will drop out. Everyone crazy about special examinations with dropouts. And it is an option for the students to divide the group.

An emotional tangle that combines hands with classes that were supposed to be enemies creates a turbulence! In addition, it seems that there is movement also in the new student council president, Nagumo, and that Koenji - !?

[LG-MAX 2.o]

An emotional tangle that combines hands with classes that were supposed to be enemies

class C and D working together?

this may be interesting.

so in 4chan they said that Horikita, Kushida and Ibuki will gain an SS each in the next volume, can anyone confirm?

[LG-MAX 2.o]

vol 8 illustration

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcPly_eVwAEmGSM.jpg

Shiina looks like she got the friendship from some girls.

[blitz1/2]

Lol, the irony - people complaining about the quality of a thread on some public forum, when even the director of the anime and the manga-artist screwed up with their own interpretations of the book. Gotta say it's really a pity cos Youkouso is not a bad LN by a long shot.

And wtf... I gotta wait another month for Vol 8?!?

Manga screwed up too? How?

[pervypig]

^ You read both? If you've read the LN and then the manga, you'd realize that, Akano don't have much facial expressions; Since the LN is written in Akano's 1st person narrative, you only read about his personal (unreliable narrator) thoughts, but this is explicitly commented on by those people around him, who say that he doesn't laugh (only smile wryly). Even when he was beating the shit outta Ryuen, he doesn't know what Akano's thinking, but keep asking him how he is feeling.

The manga skrewed up by giving him all sorts of funny expressions. Well, you can assume that the artist was depicting only 50%'s inner thoughts (which is really weird, since what works in writing does not always work in pictures)

[LG-MAX 2.o]

it is constantly said that Ayano has an expressionless face in the series.

[pervypig]

Manga and anime adaptations are always different. The manga added emotions and expressions to Ayanokouji but at least is following the LN, on the other hand the anime fucked up completely the story thanks to the Director.

All of that is not adressing the point, people who try to push bullshit and change what the Light Novel has established for the sake of shipping wars is the point here, that should stay on places like /a/ to keep this place in a decent shape, just searching in this thread I can point out 4 interventions of mods/admin to stop this rubbish behavior, so is fair to call out the ones doing it and correct the wrong information. Theories and interpretation are part of the discussion but keep pushing shipping wars because certain person don't like X character should not be allowed, especially when the basis of their arguments is just twisting what is established in a very clear way.

IF you are just calling out people doing it for the sake of this "clean" thread as you maintain, it would serve your purpose more if you have the common decency to keep your tone decent - which you have failed to do so.

Secondly, if you are pointing out the errors in another's argument by saying that they are "twisting what is established in a very clear way", quote and write down what is literally within the specific Vol/ep that you have located your counter-argument. (Something that I have done in more than a few occasions, even if it's just for humor) Again, you have failed to do so in that, and degenerated into mere name-calling.

In the first place, this being a public forum where free speech is allowed, and even encouraged, you're merely compounding the problem that you declare yourself to be "calling out on". We have authorized moderators to keep this place 'decent', and it is not in either of our interests for this thread to be shut down like before just cos people who don't like what they read can't resist shutting others up. So please refrain from shouting down posts/replies you dislike without preparing a decent reply.

[pervypig]

Let me remind you how you constatly post stuff about the LN mixed with rubbish interpretations but when you get called out for that you always run away?

The thing is, this started with you keeping the shipping wars discussion on the thread, changing the nature of the relationships for your convenience especially on what happened between Kei and Ayanokouji. There are many LN readers in this thread like cinnamon, Ivannom, AB079 and others that already provided the details contained on the LN, more specifically on volumes 4.5, 6 and the peak on volumes 7 and 7.5, meanwhile what you did was simple saying "2. Kei - Parasite+Host relationship, that's what kei and ayano call themselves".

Honestly, is a very hypocritical and stupid behavior twisting things around for your own benefit when real LN readers already posted what happened, even on 5ch is exactly the same. Free speech is allowed, that's right, but spreading bullshit for the sake of shipping wars is what pushed the moderation team/admin to step in here, for people like you. I'm not shutting down your post for something I don't like, I'm doing it because all what are you doing is posting bullshit out of context and based on bias against certain character you don't like even when the source material, the Japanese readers, the LN readers says otherwise. If you want to play the dumb card thinking it'll get a pass here then let me tell you that you're completely wrong. Other people in this thread have their own interpretations and theories but they don't try to use them to twist the source and say that is true when it isn't.

Run away? Must I even state the page in japanese where Akano interprets Kei's attachment to him that he had "forcibly removed Kei's parasitic host from Yousuke to myself" to state that? And that is within the latest Volume 7.5. You speak of context, and you are simply interpreting them in the context of the books too. Between Vol 7 and Vol 7.5 there is LESS than 5 days. People do not change in less than 5 days; whereas you have MAINTAINED that Ayano is calling Kei an EQUAL without literal quoting - something I am calling you out on.

In the first place, if you can talk about context and source material; show them. The topic I posted on was to a reply that had already been on the run, I rest my case. Considering I don't go on either 5chan but only started reading the series less than 2 months ago, you can tell who is being hypocritical about it. Check and see if I had even posted once on this thread <2 months ago if you can.

[pervypig]

Of course I speak of context because you're taking certain scenes out of context, which is the whole base of your rubbish argument trying to push more shipping wars, that's why you're being called out.

Ayanokouji on volume 7 started to think about Kei as someone irreplaceable for him, someone he can't call a friend because of all what he did to her, someone who's value is above everyone else, this is something mentioned in that volume alone by the LN readers and constantly by users on 5ch, in fact you have those bits already translated too on /a/, even if is not a perfect translation.

In fact, I'll quote 2 things that will show how rubbish is your argument, one from V7 and other from V7.5:
-In this one day, whether something will change or not........is something I don't know. But at the very least, I believe this one day will be a significant one for me. If not, I wouldn't even think of going on a date. To fall in love with someone. To think of someone as precious to you. Just by spending time with each other, to share happiness with one another. They become an irreplaceable existence to you. Those sorts of feelings and events, I wonder if I will be able to experience them too.
-"We'd better return now."
"Alright."
I started to walk. Kei then began walking a bit behind me. The one I shortened the distance the most during this one year was most likely Kei, now walking behind me. Without realizing it, she had become an essential existence to me. To call it friendship would be a bit rude to her... However. After I am done reaching for class A and the student council affairs was done, that time we may become friends... No, I think she may become an even more important person to me

These 2 things mark a complete change on Ayanokouji and the only reason for this was Karuizawa. Yes, the MC you want to believe is an edgy one is changing thanks to the character you hate the most, to the point of trying too hard to twist what happened in the LN. Sorry but there is no other way to put this in words, you're the same type of /a/ poster that wants to believe anything but what is established by the source itself.

If that's the point you try to drive, I stand corrected; but let me tell you that I don't quote from translations cos I read either the Jap or the Chinese version: which can be understood differently. So when I read that last part, I read it as; "If it's Kei, maybe she can be something more..." which can be taken as more like a sister or a lover or a family member.

Read this however you might, but I don't twist any more characters than how I can interpret from the language - and I draw my own conclusions from there - unlike you who keeps up with a pretense of 'calling out' others, but is too lazy to go through with the evidence.

P.S: This is what I get from there: いいえ、私は彼女がその存在になることができると思います。In case you accuse me of "horse-shitting" again. Also, you have been putting things in people's mouth since the very first post - an act I had very politely suggested you refrain from. For eg. I have never in any of my posts said I hated Kei, only Akano for being a cold bastard - which he is.

[Cinnamon]

And here we go again with interpreting Japanese phrases. I hope you guys understand how difficult it can be to get the english meaning right, right? :D

Also, If I remember correctly, him saying she transferred her parasitic host towards him was in the latter half of volume 4? In that case, there has been enough time for him to change by then, which we see during v6 and v7 by interacting with new friends and meeting new ones.

It's likely this process will continue when he meets new males during this next exam.

[pervypig]

The point, my dear Cinnamon, is not that readers translate jap or Chinese with difficulty. It is the fact that even simple English sentences can have multiple meanings, WHICH people like the said lady/gentleman I quoted so many times above insist on having only one;that is his/her own. See, I never insist in my own interpretation being the perfect one except to point out the inconsistencies in the one I oppose. But you see now for what he/she is if this person can be dragged this easily into a rage; claiming no less that s/he is only "calling out" on others while misquoting from my own posts and putting words into my mouth.

I apologize for the discontinuity of the topic, so let's talk real stuff; any more image from the new volume?

[joshindabarrel]

I hope Ayanokouji expels Kushida. She is acting like a tattle tale just because she is scared of her past getting exposed. In the latest part of Volume 5 I read, I don’t know how Ayanokouji wasn’t shitting himself when Kushida said she wants to expel him.

[SilverGlavenus]

^Are you kidding ? Ayanokoji, shitting his pants because of someone ??:heh:

[LG-MAX 2.o]

"Ahh, but I have changed my mind about something. Just now too. That's the fact that you, Ayanokouji-kun, are now on my list of people to expel. In other words, after the two of you have been eliminated, I'll aim for Class A".


In that part I thought: "RUN KUSHIDA, RUN AWAY WHILE YOU CAN, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE GOING TO."

"Horikita-san's a mess throughout the sports festival. Shame you couldn't save her, right?".


How cute, does she think he's angry or disappointed because he can not save Horikita? As if he wanted to.


I hope in vol 8 we have a real interaction between Sociopath Ayano vs BiTCHshida.

[joshindabarrel]

If Ayanokouji was mega god tier, and he knew that he would get Kushida to admit her guilt, he could’ve kept his phone on him and recorded her admitting her false rape accusation against Ayanokouji. Then he would have all the evidence he would need if she were to try and push that on him.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

If Ayanokouji was mega god tier, and he knew that he would get Kushida to admit her guilt, he could’ve kept his phone on him and recorded her admitting her false rape accusation against Ayanokouji. Then he would have all the evidence he would need if she were to try and push that on him.

one thing I find interesting, is that he never seemed to care much about this accusation, he acts as if it were allgo minor, even in vol 7.5 he does not consider Kushida as one of the great threats to him.

[pervypig]

If Ayanokouji was mega god tier, and he knew that he would get Kushida to admit her guilt, he could’ve kept his phone on him and recorded her admitting her false rape accusation against Ayanokouji. Then he would have all the evidence he would need if she were to try and push that on him.

Ayano ain't mega god tier: he is mega demon tier. Consider the following fact from Vol 7.5 which I had used to illustrate what kind of BASTARD he really is:

2nd last chapter of Vol. 7.5, Ayano is considering his rival Sakayanagi in class A, and the fact that her dad's the school's director. He BRIEFLY considered the possibility of using Kei to drag the director down to the lowest part of society, but then discard the thought cos he thought Kei won't be able to handle the sex part. Now this is the SAME director who is PROTECTING AYANO FROM HIS DAD which we saw in Vol. 6

Biting the hand that feed you much, no? Kushida doesn't even figure into his plans...

Also @Cinnamon, Ayano DID mention that he forcefully direct Kei's parasitic host from Yousuke to himself in the last chapter of Vol. 7.5, I will copy that part in Chinese (which I'm better at understanding) here:
促使她在失去平田的情况下依然能够独立，同时让她把我选为下一个寄生宿主，这就是我的目的。也就是说，到目 前为止事情发展都很顺利。乱入到我跟佐藤的约会中来是我意料之外的，但结果则是非常有有力地加深了我跟轻井 泽之间的联系。

See, I don't "horse-shit" or ask people to go check some other img-boards in order to justify my claims, which may or may not correct. At the very least, I don't shut people up just cos their claims are different.

[Cinnamon]

Also @Cinnamon, Ayano DID mention that he forcefully direct Kei's parasitic host from Yousuke to himself in the last chapter of Vol. 7.5

I stand corrected, here is the original sentence if someone wants to check. As for forcefully, nowhere is that stated in the original sentence though? Although most people would say his "methods" were a tad bit forceful (which methods he already apologised to her already)

軽井沢が平田と別れたがることは想定していた、と いうよりそう仕向けていたからだ。平田を失くしても自立出来るよう促すと同時に、新たな寄生先をオレにする ことが目的だった。つまりここまでは全て順調に運べているということ。佐藤とのデートに乱入してくることは 想定外だっ たが、結果的により強く軽井沢と繋がることが出来た。

[joshindabarrel]

Haters will hate, but Ayanokouji will do anything to stay within the school gates��

[pervypig]

Well, at least, the bastard's mellowing out somewhat now that he decided to trust kei somewhat - but I doubt his methods would endear me to him any time soon. Not trusting any of my waifus to his pimping hands... oh, but he can keep yousuke (lol)

[joshindabarrel]

I’m hyped to read the translation of the race between Manabu and Ayanokouji. Shit is gonna be real!

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I’m hyped to read the translation of the race between Manabu and Ayanokouji. Shit is gonna be real!

I'm anxious too, I want to know like his class will react, I mean, he's spent all his time pretending to be slow.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

we finally had the race scene and it can be summed up in two 50% phrases for Manabu.

"I'll just say this before the race".
"What?".
As the two of us started on our approach run, I said this one sentence.

"---run with everything you've got".

and

Alright---I'm going to accelerate even further---


Sakura must have fainted with such virility.

[tuckersister]

If the enemy laid a hand on Sakura, would Kiyotaka do worse than what he did to Ryuen?

[LG-MAX 2.o]

well, considering he's always shown real concern for her, it's hard to imagine him seeing her suffer in any way and do nothing to help her. Well, if there is anyone currently that could force Ayano to get really violent, with the exception of Kei, it must be Sakura.

[tuckersister]

Thanks for responding. Sakura is Kiyotaka's only decent friend after all. He treasures her a lot (Kei is an exception). I think she is a important person that will help mellow out Kiyotaka. I wonder if Sakura knows that Kiyotaka is emotionally dense.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Thanks for responding. Sakura is Kiyotaka's only decent friend after all. He treasures her a lot (Kei is an exception). I think she is a important person that will help mellow out Kiyotaka. I wonder if Sakura knows that Kiyotaka is emotionally dense.

I would not call him dense, since he knows that Sakura is in love with him, but he has difficulty understanding some human interactions ............

Personally I wonder what her reaction will be like when she finds out about his darkness, it's always funny in some ways how she thinks of him as someone with a gentle and kind heart.

[tuckersister]

Thanks for clarifying.

[Diluc]

Anybody can fill me about Nagumo? I don't know this character, i am not following Classroom Elite lately.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

second year student, Class A. current student council president, likes to show others how powerful he is. And for many fans it will serve as a step to show the school how Alfa Ayonokouji is

[dragon1412]

Anybody can fill me about Nagumo? I don't know this character, i am not following Classroom Elite lately.

Not really much you can say, Nagumo only has his entrance in the current arc, which should begin next volume, all we know is from the early part,

[pervypig]

Well from what i gathered,

Nagumo aims to keep everyone's head down by instituting kicking of students as often as possible when he becomes president - which Manabu had not been doing because of his beliefs. Basically, the gist i got was that, follow him and don't get on his bad books and you'd be fine, even if you're D class (maybe even promote you to A if you're worth his time). Also, even if you're A class, don't think you can be safe if you try oppose him.

As to how he could exercise all that power, well, the student council is actually the ones that come up with the special exam details (not sure bout rules). Also, punishments for student affairs are also taken care of by them (as shown in Vol.2), so ya, he's got helluva advantage.

Makes me wonder why 50% would want to oppose him... As a matter of fact, he's regretting catching Nag's eyes (BTW Nag actually felt Ayano up during his date with Satou - OMG yet another BL flag)

[Cinnamon]

Nagumo aims to keep everyone's head down by instituting kicking of students as often as possible when he becomes president - which Manabu had not been doing because of his beliefs. Basically, the gist i got was that, follow him and don't get on his bad books and you'd be fine, even if you're D class (maybe even promote you to A if you're worth his time). Also, even if you're A class, don't think you can be safe if you try oppose him.

As to how he could exercise all that power, well, the student council is actually the ones that come up with the special exam details (not sure bout rules). Also, punishments for student affairs are also taken care of by them (as shown in Vol.2), so ya, he's got helluva advantage.

Nagumo wants to make it easier to expel people who are not "qualified" to be in the school, make it the real deal, a school for the elites. Remember that the school as of now has a mix of all kinds of students now. He kind of reminds me of Kamoshida from P5(?). His charisma is his power and his way of expelling people that are his enemy seems to be his ability to make people move against them on his behalf.

The student council has no knowledge of the details concerning the special exams as stated by Manabu in the drama CD which happens between v3 and v4. What they have however is the ability to suggest special exams in general terms, but they are not privy to the details.

Also, they do not get to punish students as that's the school system and the teachers' responsibility. That meeting in v2 was to let the students deal with it themselves and the student council were there as representatives of the student body.

[pervypig]

^ Yeah, what Cinnamon said.

And I got to agree Nagumo actually made a lot of sense with his declaration of kicking all those undeserving of the title elite, as far as the rationale for having such a government school in the first place is concerned.

They might be trying to simulate some real-life society for some social experiment in that school of theirs, but wtf is the point of lumping trash students with those who can make it. One actually wonder what is the point of pitting classes against each other when it is obvious that there would definitely be stragglers that drag down others in any herd.

I guess that 'promise' of the school guaranteeing a place in any place it's A-class graduate chooses is more of a figure of speech than anything; since if you manage to survive 3 years there at all, you're backstabby enough to get anywhere on your own anyway...

[kuudererules]

table of contents for vol 8

P011 - Horikita Manabu's Monologue
P013 - A New Special Exam - Mixed Training Camp
P108 - Human nature put to the test
P153 - Premonition of defeat
P203 - First half of the girls' battle - Ichinose Honami
P209 - Ubiquitous things
P254 - Things that are lost, things that aren't lost
P286 - Second half of the girls' battle - Horikita Suzune
P292 - Blind spot

Volume 8 SS that confirmed so far.

TORANOANA's bonus - Honami SS "Weariness of the Heart"
Melonbooks' bonus - Kei SS "A Mean Partner"
GAMERS's bonus - Nazuna Asahina (amulet girl) SS (This title is unrevealed yet.)

[kakarotlssj]

https://mfbunkoj.jp/trial/ISBN978-4-04-069861-8/books/images/2/4.jpg

[LG-MAX 2.o]

finally Volume 5 ended.

What to say?

Ayanokouji toyed with Horikita, Kushida and Ryuenn the entire volume. I hope now Kushida will at least reconsider thinking twice before threatening 50%, since he is considered one of the suspects.

[UberChelo]

Interesting...

Ayanokouji giving up a battle to win the war.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

reading the preview of vol 8, Ayanokouji is still a cold bastard, huh?

[UberChelo]

reading the preview of vol 8, Ayanokouji is still a cold bastard, huh?
It shows how far is from changing. However, this part surprised me a little bit.

Then there are my friends Keisei, Akito, Haruka and Airi. But in regards to them, I merely hope they'll survive. They are not under my protection.

At best, I'll pray for them to not be expelled as a friend.

[Cinnamon]

reading the preview of vol 8, Ayanokouji is still a cold bastard, huh?

Not really? He just realises he can't do everything by himself.

Considering the leader and joint responsibility system, it's not impossible to think that even Kei may end up becoming a sacrifice.
In regards to her attitude during lessons and her exam scores, I cannot say that Kei is doing well, even as flattery.
That's why I'll teach her how to protect herself.
It isn't something every student will be able to pull off but it's a way to lower the risk even if just a little.

As for me, I couldn't care less about the special exam that's going to be held really.
I have no intention of executing winning strategies. I'm just going to overcome it safely.
Still, just like how I'm giving Kei advice, it doesn't mean I won't be making a move at all.
The worst case scenario in the special exam would be multiple expulsions occurring in Class C.
And it's impossible to perfectly protect the whole class by myself.

I have to narrow down the people I need to protect.
In short, other than myself, I'd like to protect Kei, who has finally become a prominent accomplice as well as Hirata.
Next up, considering my involvement with the student council, I'll need to make sure Horikita survives as well.

Then there are also my friends Keisei, Akito, Haruka and Airi. It’s just, while I wish for them to remain, they won’t be under my protection. However, as a friend, I will definitely pray for them not to get expelled.

Even though there won't be many opportunities for all the school years to gather together, it should be fine if I just kept an eye on Nagumo's movements.

I have no interest in the skirmishes that will occur around me.

The bus left the highway and began to gradually ascend the mountain road that's paved to a certain extent. I wonder if it's become a custom for us to go to the ocean or to rivers or places surrounded by nature whenever we leave the school.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Do not get me wrong, this is not a criticism.

But normally the protagonist would try to help his friends, or in the most ridiculous case, the obsolete protagonists tried to help everyone so that in the end everyone could smile together.

But Ayanokouji gave priority to reason, helping those who can benefit the class and him, rather than giving priority to friendship. This is interesting.

[kuudererules]

illustration from vol 8 already out in 4chan

from what i found so far
Akane get expelled.
However, Manabu paid points to keep her. Akane was saved.

https://scontent-sin6-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33180091_1811559432236057_3618106722465349632_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=c130b04e7d1f2ff4152df4b0d5845355&oe=5BC3D000


also another pict for Kei again
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd3IZyCVAAAF08B.jpg

[Iroha Isshiki]

from what i found so far
Akane get expelled.
However, Manabu paid points to keep her. Akane was saved.

https://scontent-sin6-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33180091_1811559432236057_3618106722465349632_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=c130b04e7d1f2ff4152df4b0d5845355&oe=5BC3D000


Confirmed. Saw this in 2ch

[Kiyoe]

8 lllust preview https://imgur.com/a/jVwNp5T

[LG-MAX 2.o]

so everything Koenji did on the vol was swinging his cock in Katsuragi's face?

Kiyotaka ≧ Koenji> Albert> Katsuragi = Sudo> Kanada.

[pervypig]

^ Where is Yosuke? I thought any gay party must involve everyone's favorite nice guy.

[kuudererules]

Summary vol 8

>Class D is no longer Class "D". They are now in Class "C". All the students in the school have to attend the school event that takes place in the mountain. But it's not the kind of desert island. They cook breakfast themselves, wake up before the due time, cleaning, take lectures and then pass exams of Zazen, Running, Speech, usual paper test on the final day. Boys and girls are separated during the event. But they can meet at meal times.

>Each grade has to make some groups and those groups have to be made up of people from two classes at least. (Small group). Then those groups join in groups that from other grades (Large group). The results of the test score are averaged, and it makes a ranking. Ayanokouji's group has Ishizaki and Albert from Class D, Kouenji and Yukimura from Class C, Sumida, Moriyama, Tokitou from Class B, and Yahiko and Hashimoto from Class A. (10 in total). Yukimura is the leader. From grade 2 and 3, Nagumo's group join in them. During the forming groups, Nagumo suggests a battle to the former student council leader, Manabu Horikita, and he accepts it, which group gets higher score. They set a rule to let it be fair and square that they can't take dirty plans like attacking their group members.

>A sudden d*ck competition is brought up at the bath time. Ayanokouji, Kouenji (Class C) > Albert (Class D) > Katsuragi (Class A), Sudou (Class C) > Kaneda (Class D) Albert "Oh my God". Ryuuen has an atmosphere telling his is actually big and actually tells it can't beat Kouenji, but the comparison doesn't happen since he just attracts guys' attention to himself to let them notice that there is Ayanokouji hiding his. Kouenji is sure that he wins in terms of "experience".

>Nothing important happens between Suzune Horikita and Kikyou Kushida in the volume. Horikita fails to convince Kushida that she will keep the secret.

>Sakayanagi takes a certain plan to beat Ichinose, and it actually works so that Ichinose can't even show smile to her close friends when they talk to her. The plan isn't revealed in the volume.

>When Kouenji gets out of the path to fight against a boar, Ayanokouji runs after him. Then the moment Ayanokouji holing Kouenji's arm, Kouenji realizes who is the person behind the Ryuuen's sudden retirement from the leader. Apparently, Kouenji won't reveal it. The boar thing finishes sooner than Kouenji expected, just in case you wonder.

>Nazuna Asahina, the 2nd grader, is nice and known for her nature that returns the favor and never forgets it despite her way of talking and appearance. She lost "Omamori" charm/amulet, but Ayanokouji picked it up so that it's returned to her. That's why Ayanokouji can get the chance to talk to her, and they can talk about Nagumo in this volume. She is not one of the sympathizers for Nagumo. But she says he doesn't take dirty actions and keeps his words. And regarding the topic about the girls' group in the school event, Ayanokouji tells something to her to end the conversation. It's not revealed in the volume.

>The results of the test is Manabu Horikita's win. But Nagumo's dirty plan takes place in the girls side. A group's average score is lower than the score the school sets, then the leader (Class B in Grade 3) gets the penalty to quit school, then she names Akane Hori as the one who caused the trouble and quits school. But her class and Manabu Horikita use points to revoke that. Class B also does the same thing.

>The volume ends with a line for the future reference that there will be dropouts one after another from now on.

>Ayanokouji tells Kei Karuizawa that he will protect her from dropping out whatever it takes.

Credit : https://old.reddit.com/user/Bushido_Samurai_TL

[LG-MAX 2.o]

>Nothing important happens between Suzune Horikita and Kikyou Kushida in the volume. Horikita fails to convince Kushida that she will keep the secret.


Which secret?

[Miso]

Which secret? Her middle school secret.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Her middle school secret.

ahhhhhhhhhh, OK.

[Kiyokiyo]

Dick size competition?
Welp, Sakayanagi won't be able to walk if she ends up with Kiyotaka....

[Miso]

Dick size competition?
Welp, Sakayanagi won't be able to walk if she ends up with Kiyotaka....
Did you even read her SS. It will obviously be her and Yamauchi. Now for a serious answer. I don't think she can ever have sex cause honestly she could die from that (since she has heart problems). And Kiyotaka and her? Nothing in the ln implays that so I don't really know where you got that from.

[Kiyokiyo]

Did you even read her SS. It will obviously be her and Yamauchi. Now for a serious answer. I don't think she can ever have sex cause honestly she could die from that (since she has heart problems). And Kiyotaka and her? Nothing in the ln implays that so I don't really know where you got that from.

Kiyotaka and Sakayanagi are just the two characters I like the most..
no need to take me seriously ahaha

[BladeMancer]

I feel so sorry for Arisu. Yamauchi might be one of the dumbest people in the school, if not THE dumbest

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Honestly, if 50% d # ck is even higher than Albert, then I feel sorry for Karuizawa.

About Haruki and Alice, I find it silly to create couples based on a single interaction, which Neither is what is happening with Nazuna, where there are already several people calling her Kei rival.

Until further information, I still believe she will only humiliate Haruki publicly, where he will drop out of school, perhaps using Masumi.

[SilverGlavenus]

Did you even read her SS. It will obviously be her and Yamauchi. Now for a serious answer. I don't think she can ever have sex cause honestly she could die from that (since she has heart problems). And Kiyotaka and her? Nothing in the ln implays that so I don't really know where you got that from.

Which SS are we talking about, fellow men of culture ?

[Jason25th]

Which SS are we talking about, fellow men of culture ?

He is talking about the latest Arisu SS that was translated yesterday

[SilverGlavenus]

He is talking about the latest Arisu SS that was translated yesterday

Thank you, I just skimmed through it. Way I see, she is gonna have revenge on Yamauchi in the future.

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/9Ossve7 illus vol 8

[AP24]

The wraparound on Vol 8 says that it is the start of "VS 2nd year arc"

[Jord]

The wraparound on Vol 8 says that it is the start of "VS 2nd year arc"

Probably because kiyotaka and Co. are now class C (even when he knows they can get demoted since he wants to expel Kushida) so there is class B and A to beat and that's gonna take a lot of effort and time.

[kuudererules]

Cover for new issue Comic Alive
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd9fVaEV0AAuNei?format=jpg

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Arisu look like a mahou shoujo.

[thefreakmike]

Man I am in love with the artstyle, its such a treat to the eyes

[LG-MAX 2.o]

who was it that once said that think that Arisu hides a sword inside the cane?

I started having fun thinking about it, lol

[Vaans]

If there's Dick competition, there should be breast competition for the ladies.

Arisu look like a mahou shoujo.

I suddenly had a though of a Sakayanagi spin-off where turns into a real mahou shoujo (with a smug face).

[readher]

If there's Dick competition, there should be breast competition for the ladies.

We already know Sakura has the largest breasts, unless some sidechar we have no sizes of is bigger, but I doubt it.

[Endless_Despair]

Its nice to see how passionate Kiyotaka's VA is about the series and now the total sales for Classroom of The Elite has surpassed 2 million sales, which is very impressive when you consider how mediocre the anime adaptation was along with its sales.

[Vaans]

We already know Sakura has the largest breasts, unless some sidechar we have no sizes of is bigger, but I doubt it.

It would still be fun to see. :D

[Kiyoe]

Comic Alive Julio ..Kei y Karen.

YouJitsu x Jishou F-Rank no Oniisama.
Ilust: Necometal

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