View Full Version : Sono Mono. Nochi ni... (That Person. Later on...)
Title: その者。のちに・・・
Romaji: Sono Mono. Nochi ni...
Alternative Title: That Person. Later on...
Author: ナハァト
Chapters: Completed. (217)
Translation:http://www.sabishiidesu.com/p/that-person-later-on.html
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Wazu was an ordinary townsman who shut himself off in "Mountain" because of some course of event. After 2 years he decided to come down from the mountain to meet with poeple. But there are various misunderstanding about the "Mountain" which he shut himself off. And then he meet with the poeple repeatedly. After that...(taken from translation site)
OP MC?
Yes and getting stronger with each passing chapters but weak mentally.
harem?
Of course.
snusnu?
Yes (only in the last arc)
NTR?
Yes...shut himself off in the "Mountain" because of this
By some kind of chance i read the manga version of this story which started last march. Tried to search for the source novel and read it for 1 week. Searching the topic in this forum and there is no topic for this this story. Decided to made it now. BTW, can i post the link to the prologue manga in here?
Ruki0089
2017-04-05, 02:22
NTR?!!!!! Did he kill the bastard and the bitch?!!
NTR?!!!!! Did he kill the bastard and the bitch?!!
In some kind of event both wazu and the hero duel 1 on 1. The hero here is like kouki from arifureta. Created his own justice and always create problem to his surrounding. Of course wazu trashed the hero really hard.
The childhood friend before the event of the duel already rejected wazu.
She apparently searched for him all this time to properly tell her feeling for the hero and also so she can started clean from the start together with hero.
In some kind of event both wazu and the hero duel 1 on 1. The hero here is like kouki from arifureta. Created his own justice and always create problem to his surrounding. Of course wazu trashed the hero really hard.
The childhood friend before the event of the duel already rejected wazu.
She apparently searched for him all this time to properly tell her feeling for the hero and also so she can started clean from the start together with hero.
That duel is
In some kind of event both wazu and the hero duel 1 on 1. The hero here is like kouki from arifureta. Created his own justice and always create problem to his surrounding. Of course wazu trashed the hero really hard.
The childhood friend before the event of the duel already rejected wazu.
She apparently searched for him all this time to properly tell her feeling for the hero and also so she can started clean from the start together with hero.
Death is the only solution desu. MC should grow balls and get rid of rivals.
Death is the only solution desu. MC should grow balls and get rid of rivals.
No need for that. Wazu already have his extraordinary harem member to back him up and console him.
So he have goddesses, elf, prostitute, twin princess, little sister, Under age Half dragon, Were beast, and dragon too i think.
In some kind of event both wazu and the hero duel 1 on 1. The hero here is like kouki from arifureta. Created his own justice and always create problem to his surrounding. Of course wazu trashed the hero really hard.
The childhood friend before the event of the duel already rejected wazu.
She apparently searched for him all this time to properly tell her feeling for the hero and also so she can started clean from the start together with hero.
U can't never have things that never belong to you, so let give no f*ck and move on with something else
U can't never have things that never belong to you, so let give no f*ck and move on with something else
Promised to marry wazu but she get taken away by the church to become a party member of hero. 2 year later she came back but wazu saw her kiss scene with the hero.
The NTR is permanent on this one
oh God! thanks!
finally, something translated. get tired with all moonrune.
Von Himmel
2017-04-05, 08:10
Oh I remember this one. I read the translated chapter 1 and was pretty interested if it's really NTR or misunderstanding.. I thought it'll get answered in a couple of chapters but I need to slog through hundreds of chapters to get my answers lmao
Was pretty surprised too, with how the MC got all his harems here and there, I was expecting that it's all just a misunderstanding but he truly got NTR'ed
Ruki0089
2017-04-05, 08:29
Yeah... But why he didn't kill the bitch and the bastard... Tsk...
Since mc status is written with word and not number, I only remember "crybaby" as his only characteristic feature. Don't tell me everytime he meet new girl the loop will happen over and over.
(met new girl > confess > misunderstand the reply > crying > girl come after him)
But I don't understand why mc feel so f*cked up, it was a promise they made when 13y/o or younger for godsake. A mere puppy love if compared to the journey and love event the hero and the girl had in their mortal quest.
But author should try to turn it into polyandry / reverse harem story for win win solution. :heh:
no one mentioned its manga adaptation? the drawing pretty good though. like the silver haired elf. hope she get netorared for real later.
edit: right.... sorry OP. my mistake. you already did.
Since mc status is written with word and not number, I only remember "crybaby" as his only characteristic feature. Don't tell me everytime he meet new girl the loop will happen over and over.
(met new girl > confess > misunderstand the reply > crying > girl come after him)
But I don't understand why mc feel so f*cked up, it was a promise they made when 13y/o or younger for godsake. A mere puppy love if compared to the journey and love event the hero and the girl had in their mortal quest.
But author should try to turn it into polyandry / reverse harem story for win win solution. :heh:
He was serious about it and aria is also serious about it too, but...While saying sorry to him after they meet to retrieve the hero's fiance that was kidnapped by wazu (the fiance asked him so she can meet her beloved), she said to him that eventhough it was only a child's promise, she was really serious at that time. After being forced to become one pf hero's party member, her objective is to finish this quickly and get back to him. Time flow and life and death situation that she experience all this time pushed her to rely on hero. That reliance become love in the end. By the time she get back to the kingdom she already in love with the hero. When she want to tell wazu about this, he was already gone. She know that this is the worst possible way and will hurt him in the end. She want to end it properly and started over with the hero. That is why she waited until she can ffound wazu before she can progress further with her relationship with the hero.
What suprise me more is his little sister. She kissed her own brother when they reunited and tell him that she loved him as a man. She is also mad at aria and calling her a bitch for betraying her brother. She is also OP with her own set of skill. Quess what she is a reincarnated person with mastery of all kind of magic. Her MP is at maximum number and her Mind and Int breakthrough the limit. Kinda same as haosui's broken status
Once again imotou being best girl? Colour me surprised.
Ruki0089
2017-04-05, 09:58
Imouto is best girl... She should kill the childhood friend.... JUST FUCKING KILL HER!!!!
The translator is really good thats about the best I can say about this, the MC is total trash and deserves to be NTRed.
After being forced to become one pf hero's party member, her objective is to finish this quickly and get back to him. Time flow and life and death situation that she experience all this time pushed her to rely on hero. That reliance become love in the end. By the time she get back to the kingdom she already in love with the hero.
This is what I mean, all those life threatening experience with hero give more Love Point than playing with childhood friend at the sideroad.
When she want to tell wazu about this, he was already gone.
Well, before she tell him about that, she just have to ichaicha and kissing in the backalley with hero. :heh:
The girl has some loose screw too. IMO It's better that mc made a loud sound like crackling pebble or dropping crates that made the girl realized that he saw her kissing scene.
Ruki0089
2017-04-05, 10:24
The translator is really good thats about the best I can say about this, the MC is total trash and deserves to be NTRed.
Well, with his power he can take her by force... But too bad, he is not trash as you think... He just beta and idiot... Ah, wimp too... Tsk.. if he is real jerk, trash and an ass.... He will rape the bitch right front of the bastard...
This, i hate both MC and the childhood friend. I hope both die.
The translator is really good thats about the best I can say about this, the MC is total trash and deserves to be NTRed.
Lol, from LN I just missread mc name ワズ (Wazu) as クズ (Kuzu). :heh:
kuzu = trash
https://s13.postimg.org/7407v7xo7/kuzu.png
A question , does childhood friend go for hero even in LN ??
The translator is really good thats about the best I can say about this, the MC is total trash and deserves to be NTRed.
The best part of this is the harem of course. This is what their reaction after wazu told them about aria. (This is after they resolved the misunderstanding and confessed their love toward wazu).
「Okay. Let's kill that women, if possible in gruesome way」(Salona the Elf)
「That's right, it still to easy to let her live after betraying wazu-sama」(Tata the prostitute)
「As her friend i feel sad about this..., what kind of flower is good for her grave?」(Naminissa the younger sister of the twin)
「She will become the rust of my sword. No, to let it end in a short moment is not good」(Narellina the older sister of the twin)
「......Kill] (Haosui the 14 years old half dragon)
The goddesses also one of the best part of this series. They are having a chat room in wazu's guild card.....
^That's kinda disturbing -__-
The whole point of this novel is :
"Lookie here, I have this amazing harem, I don't need you, bitch!"
Yet it's clearly visible that Kuzu still can't forget about her until the end
Just like Yukino but that one done right
Ruki0089
2017-04-05, 11:19
The best part of this is the harem of course. This is what their reaction after wazu told them about aria. (This is after they resolved the misunderstanding and confessed their love toward wazu).
「Okay. Let's kill that women, if possible in gruesome way」(Salona the Elf)
「That's right, it still to easy to let her live after betraying wazu-sama」(Tata the prostitute)
「As her friend i feel sad about this..., what kind of flower is good for her grave?」(Naminissa the younger sister of the twin)
「She will become the rust of my sword. No, to let it end in a short moment is not good」(Narellina the older sister of the twin)
「......Kill] (Haosui the 14 years old half dragon)
The goddesses also one of the best part of this series. They are having a chat room in wazu's guild card.....
See, even his harem want to bruattaly kill her...:heh:
@Ero Tora..
Yeah, but the bitch looks okay with it .. she didn't regret it... Tsk...
thr conclusion to prostitute tata 's arc was so damn funny i can't help to sing chef's prostitute song from south park.
"You are dumped. we just used you." Lol.
Prostitute is someone who loves you no matter who you are... what you look like~
Lol, from LN I just missread mc name ワズ (Wazu) as クズ (Kuzu). :heh:
kuzu = trash
https://s13.postimg.org/7407v7xo7/kuzu.png
Let see : little sister［true］ with cheat, drago girl, baby dragon, twin Princess, former prostitute, 4 goddess［+1 yandere goddess［who want to freed Wazu from his cursed past］］
The hero holy sword is broken without him doing anything.
Btw, according to little sister she know fro long time ago that Aria is a bitch and not include her case as NTR, thus the Wazu runaway accident released her "shackles" and made her going all out, in various meanings.
Ruki0089
2017-04-06, 01:45
So... Childhood friend is real bitch...
web novel is completed any spoilers for the end or it was axed and well be finished in the LN
web novel is completed any spoilers for the end or it was axed and well be finished in the LN
It was already completed since last year. Wazu defeated the evil god and then ending it with a harem end.
Don't know about the LN. Maybe the author will change some part or maybe not. LN only reach vol 3 as of now.
So... Childhood friend is real bitch...
Yup, and that made his little sister unleashed her true power［she's a "genius" and "broken" super cheat when it come to her "oniichan"］
Ruki0089
2017-04-06, 19:06
What a good child...:D
amatsunagi
2017-04-07, 21:40
LN version will have different ending, said author on his page, as many people critically disliked the NTR that happened. I also got a bad aftertaste but think it's fine in it's own way. The change is still a big welcome for me tho'
^AMATSUNAGI is here!!!!!!!!!!
How did it get published in the first place if many disliked it?
amatsunagi
2017-04-07, 22:40
ya tora-kun~
the critical response is for the ending, where the NTR is confirmed. Lots wanted it to be a misunderstanding. other from that part, everything is well received
Changing a critical plot point just because you dislike one aspect.
So .... Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Op. 74.
Ruki0089
2017-04-07, 22:52
So... There is change author gonna made the bitch and the bastard pay !!! Yeah, that's it!!!
amatsunagi
2017-04-07, 23:12
the NTR at the start is still happening, but as for the end result, dunno?
well... as long as it doesn't end in "1 Thessalonians 4:3" s way.... or forest gump way...
Ruki0089
2017-04-07, 23:36
the NTR at the start is still happening, but as for the end result, dunno?
Well, I bet author gonna made them pay... Seriously, let them go and go happy with Scot free is leaving bad taste to my mouth...
The girls in mc's harem should made the bitch pay....
Reading the translated chapters, it seems that I misjudge the MC.
Having a low profile of himself this does not stop the protagonist from approaching and declaring to the heroines at first, but this changes after the first rejections, generating in a self contempt, this does not change how he acts with other people giving situations of comedy and friendship.
-First, he runs to seclude himself on the mountain with a broken heart upon seeing "that" scene. (NTR'ed Osananajimi)
-Secondly, after the confession, It is understood why he runs being the first time it is rejected (?) with "め ん な さ い っ っ !!!", remembering "that" scene.
-Third, this is where his complex becomes greater (I think), upon receiving the answer in a malicious way and discovering the motive (only at the beginning) of why she became interested in him, this time he did not run away but falls emotionally, start another trip after a few days.
-Fourth / Fifth, already with a larger complex, he no longer tries to mediate directly and does not take the obvious clues and approaches as affection towards him, but as gratitude or because of the circumstances, is forced to leave thanks to the antagonist.
-Sixth, since this I have followed with translations, still no conclusion, but she takes the lead.
HAHAHA, the Goddesses, the part of how each goddess is before the next heroine and the little interaction with the protagonist are the best, not forgetting why they fall for him and the growth of MC
「女神の同情」：何があったかはわかりませんがあんなに泣いて泣いて
大丈夫！！きっといい事ありますよ ！！だから元気出して下さい！！加護よりもバンバン全力で助けちゃいますからね！！！頑張って生きていきま しょう！！！
The prostitute heroine, The story of how because of a debt of her father for the Lord to want to make the daughter his wife and how to avoid this start his current profession to pay off the debt, having relations not only with several mens but also with the Lord for years.
I think that the netorare part should really be maintained, but with a better elaboration at the beginning as it does not convey well the pain of the protagonist being a few lines, if the protagonist had not fled anything would happen apart from the end of the world.
Von Himmel
2017-04-08, 00:41
I think I'm kinda okay with NTR that's actually happening. It's really surprising and kinda served as plot twist but uh... how the fuck can the girl actually fell in love with that hero? :heh: If the author made it so that the hero is actually a decent character then I probably can understand
thats if she was a decent girl but she is bit.ch and money digger
those kind of childhood friends ruin the story and give you bad taste
Well, I bet author gonna made them pay... Seriously, let them go and go happy? with Scot free is leaving bad taste to my mouth...
The girls in mc's harem should made the bitch pay....
The hero being trashed in front of the people of his kingdom and his childhood friend's face is punishment enough.
The childhood friend also left with her mouth left open and doesn't believe it when wazu destroyed the hero and plunged his upperward body into the ground.(Plus his pants is also gone and laid bare for all the people to saw his "son"). The knight from the hero's party smirked and tried to stop his laughter and the female mage applaud wazu and seems to have high regard toward him. Evenn the hero's party member seems to hate his behaviour.
I think that the netorare part should really be maintained, but with a better elaboration at the beginning as it does not convey well the pain of the protagonist being a few lines, if the protagonist had not fled anything would happen apart from the end of the world.
if the protagonist had not fled from that NTR scene into the mountain it 100% sure will be the end of the world.The demon lord that the hero's party defeated is actually planned by the master mind.
The demon lord is a poor soul feed with the same orb that change the elf villain in the first arc into a monster. If wazu never run into the mountain, there will be no one to face this master mind and the evil god will arise and destroy the world. BTW, the master mind is also the same as Wazu who is blessed by the goddesses of darkness,He also can turn into god state but the duration is much shorter than wazu.
I think I'm kinda okay with NTR that's actually happening. It's really surprising and kinda served as plot twist but uh... how the fuck can the girl actually fell in love with that hero? :heh: If the author made it so that the hero is actually a decent character then I probably can understand
No quality, he is a total trash to the core. The girl fell in love with him because of their journey together. From my opinion, she choose him because of his status and at that time the hero is much more reliable than wazu based from her mind. At least she still stick to her choice when wazu trashed the hero. She never glance even once at wazu and still earnestly trying to help the hero. At that time, Wazu already doesn't have any feeling for her and it suprised him because in the past a scene like this will hurt his feeling for sure. He give a cold glance toward the hero and childhood friend and hoped that they will never meet again or try something funny to hurt his family.
How many percent is his human rate in final chapter? Also the whole avatar... *oops*.. god state is ridiculous enough. I mean not the power up, but the white hair that make it kuzu more retarded, when i'm reading the part he awakened godstate i immediatelly remember return of legend of condor heroes (yangkuo) where his hair turned half white in a night grieving his girl not show up after 16 years. :heh:
Ruki0089
2017-04-08, 03:54
By the way, why mc fighting that trash hero??? Trash hero planning to take someone from MC's again??
How many percent is his human rate in final chapter? Also the whole avatar... *oops*.. god state is ridiculous enough. I mean not the power up, but the white hair that make it kuzu more retarded, when i'm reading the part he awakened godstate i immediatelly remember return of legend of condor heroes (yangkuo) where his hair turned half white in a night grieving his girl not show up after 16 years. :heh:
His status as human still written in the guild card but might be below 51% as of final battle. Even the goddesses leave a comment beside his status as a human revealing " Can we still call you a human at this rate?", which makes Wazu cried and plead not to erased his status as a human and leave it there.
By the way, why mc fighting that trash hero??? Trash hero planning to take someone from MC's again??
-The princess of the kingdom where wazu live is being engaged to the hero. The hero also have his own harem and almost all of them is a noble.
- That princess fall in love with another person and doesn't wish to be married to the hero but the king forced her
- That person is the oldest brother of the twin sister of wazu's harem member.
- Wazu kidnapped her (forced by the princess by shouting that he is a kidnapper) to bring her to his brother in law. She also called him brother in law by this point.
- This forced the hero's party to come to pick her up and of course this was planned by the princess after hearing the situation to let wazu meet with her childhood friend and let them talked to each other.
- Both kingdom reach an agreement and need to send their strongest individual to duel and the winner will get what they want. The princess's kingdom of course send the hero and he is using his holy sword in this battle. Wazu in order to help his brother in law agreed to battle with the hero.
What, so it's not reduced anymore huh. By the time he awakened god state / around haosui arc it already 51%.
Von Himmel
2017-04-08, 04:56
The hero being trashed in front of the people of his kingdom and his childhood friend's face is punishment enough.
The childhood friend also left with her mouth left open and doesn't believe it when wazu destroyed the hero and plunged his upperward body into the ground.(Plus his pants is also gone and laid bare for all the people to saw his "son"). The knight from the hero's party smirked and tried to stop his laughter and the female mage applaud wazu and seems to have high regard toward him. Evenn the hero's party member seems to hate his behaviour.
if the protagonist had not fled from that NTR scene into the mountain it 100% sure will be the end of the world.The demon lord that the hero's party defeated is actually planned by the master mind.
The demon lord is a poor soul feed with the same orb that change the elf villain in the first arc into a monster. If wazu never run into the mountain, there will be no one to face this master mind and the evil god will arise and destroy the world. BTW, the master mind is also the same as Wazu who is blessed by the goddesses of darkness,He also can turn into god state but the duration is much shorter than wazu.
No quality, he is a total trash to the core. The girl fell in love with him because of their journey together. From my opinion, she choose him because of his status and at that time the hero is much more reliable than wazu based from her mind. At least she still stick to her choice when wazu trashed the hero. She never glance even once at wazu and still earnestly trying to help the hero. At that time, Wazu already doesn't have any feeling for her and it suprised him because in the past a scene like this will hurt his feeling for sure. He give a cold glance toward the hero and childhood friend and hoped that they will never meet again or try something funny to hurt his family.
I know, but even during the short interaction between the hero and Wazu, the guy doesn't even seem that reliable and even act whatever he wants :( Kinda feel like it's hard to believe someone that likes Wazu (which means Wazu should at least be her type) would fall to someone like this
Ruki0089
2017-04-08, 05:07
It's prove that his childhood friend is real bitch and gold digger...
BTW, Which chapter Wazu trashing Shitty Hero??
The getting dumped thing reminds me of the manga Rappi Rangai.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-09, 00:46
What was the CHF and hero's fate at the end of the WN?
And how many changes do you suppose the LN will have?
One possibility that I like to see is the CHF realize she left a man who would have died for her, for complete garbage. And that she has an incredibly weak will, and just like the hero, she is a poor excuse for a "holy" woman. She is just a whore. She threw away her dignity, and lower herself to being mere trash on the side of the road. She will not be remembered as a champion of good, but just anothr prostitute who died alone.
Whatever selected them for the job may actually be either the evil god, or one of yit's agents. Being shown that she and her false hero were really evil pawns would be mind breaking, and justified.
Sorry about the rant. Came across too many childhood friend destroying series.
My wish to change is the prostitute story arc. I wish she wouldn't have slept around as much as she had. And I can't stomach the fact that her parents are ok with it that their daughter is the one shouldering their debt with her "body". Any decent parents would not permit their child to do that.
the manga ver. of this is already translated
^^I think she's the heroine with the stupidest decision with really stupid parents. To pay the debt and avoid the Lord she prostitutes (ha?) and it is the parents who present this work (?), proving useless (obviously), since she also did it with the Lord several times (...). But wait, she was happy since everyone was friendly with her.
^^I think she's the heroine with the stupidest decision with really stupid parents. To pay the debt and avoid the Lord she prostitutes (ha?) and it is the parents who present this work (?), proving useless (obviously), since she also did it with the Lord several times (...). But wait, she was happy since everyone was friendly with her.
Wait a bit, those descriptions was from the previous pages spoilers about one of Wazu's harem members tho.
Wait a bit, those descriptions was from the previous pages spoilers about one of Wazu's harem members tho.
prostitute story arc.She is one of Wazu's harem members
Atleast by being a prostitute she is being usefull to many people. Lessen her stupid parent debt, made the lord and other customer's chinko happy, and she is able to teach the technique she learned from work to the other harem member (naminissa pov monolog).
Forgot to ask whether there's a snusnu in the story
@wuhugm
this web novel is not even a handy-job for main character
^Oh, the 1st post said it's only epilogue snusnu... pointless
ah... so that is the meaning of the weird moonrunes i read back then.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-09, 11:17
Can someone please explain the CHF and hero's fate at the end of the story? I must know if they never got a happy ending.
And how far has the LN gotten to?
Can someone please explain the CHF and hero's fate at the end of the story? I must know if they never got a happy ending.
And how far has the LN gotten to?
CHF married the hero and keeping check on his behaviour.
Of course this mean she manages the situation in the kingdom together with hero's harem member who is mainly a noble. Some said that in the future, the kingdom became a much better place to live and continue to develop thanks to CHF and hero's harem. Thanks to CHF nad the harem, hero wasn't able to do anything pointless to wazu and his family.
LN has gone until wazu meet his littler sister kagane. The cover of vol 3 is his little sister.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-09, 13:55
Did she ever looked back on how much pain she caused Wazu? How much of their old friendship she destroyed?
Did ever realize that the hero was acting like a duush most of the time? If she did, it looks like she tried to correct him.
Honjo Masamune
2017-04-10, 10:51
"Happy end" for hero and b**ch CHF??We are crazy or what???To the bonfire with them....
ooPeaToo
2017-04-10, 11:30
preview of volume 4. Can someone summary about it?
http://viewer.comic-earthstar.jp/viewer.html?cid=4b0250793549726d5c1ea3906726ebfe&cty=0&lin=0
http://www.es-novel.jp/img/books/sonomono04.jpg
Is the little sister the last addition to the harem?
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 11:39
Who is that??? Childhood friend, the bitch??
Who is that??? Childhood friend, the bitch??
I don't think so cause in the description it stated that Aria has azure eyes and sky blue hair. Maybe its prince brother-in-law wife to be that Wasu was forced to kidnapped
^ Compare with the manga. That's the childhood friend. This isn't the first time a character's design was changed from WN to LN.
Is the little sister the last addition to the harem?
There is still mao who is from beast clan (kemonomimi banzai!!). Also from the preview pic, there is one girl that i don't recognize who is also a member of wazu's harem. Her name is cathy i think? Looks like the author expanded the story a little more than in the web novel.
In the end of the web novel, the harem member is:
Salona, Tata, Namirissa, Narerissa, Haosui, Kagane, Mao, and the last is Mearu
Who is that??? Childhood friend, the bitch??
Yes. The cover for vol 4 is the Childhood friend, Aria. Be happy now She is totally different compared to the web novel version web novel. Also the story takes a big change compared to the web novel. Still reading the preview now. Will come back with more spoiler.
I hope she is part of mc harem in LN.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 13:00
Nah, cheating whore can't be part of his harem... She should be killed...
Here I share a link of several images (disorderly), reload to see others without registration, there it looks like in the manga without kiss and the Heroe winning (?) to Wazu.
https://www.pinterest.se/pin/329607266465119883/
Nah, cheating whore can't be part of his harem... She should be killed...
Well, she may be different in LN.
Manga doesnt show her kissing with hero in some back alley but hero asking for marriage and about to force himself on her.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 13:39
Meh... Author seems trying to make fans to love childhood friend bitch...
DevilHighDxD
2017-04-10, 14:03
Does this really count as NTR? He not in a relationship with her and her feeling for the hero is mutual after their adventures. If this is NTR, than men I don't know how many times I got NTR'd in real life.
Manga(according to translations) literally says that the hero came after not even a year had passed since their engangement. Definition follows.
. A mutual promise to get married.
. a pledge of marriage; betrothal
.the act of engaging or the state of being engaged.
Tough wn makes it seem more like some childish promise, manga/ln seems more serious.
Dart-Sama
2017-04-10, 14:18
Does this really count as NTR? He not in a relationship with her and her feeling for the hero is mutual after their adventures. If this is NTR, than men I don't know how many times I got NTR'd in real life.
are u sure u want to say that?? :eyebrow:
Kaito Yamakage
2017-04-10, 14:22
I've seen so many people try to define NTR I wouldn't be surprised if someone has written a book on it.
I just take the literal meaning of the word "to be stolen", applying to both actually being stolen and implied feelings of being stolen.
If you get down to it you could write some confusing as fuck scenarios for where either or wouldn't work so the best way to define it is just based on if someone is feeling (character or reader) NTR'd because of whatever shit went down regardless of whether their feelings are justified.
Like Tanaka the Wizard, everyone thinks that's NTR, but a lot of it is pretty borderline PoV stuff, it's intentionally written that way.
SineMora
2017-04-10, 14:26
The best part of this is the harem of course. This is what their reaction after wazu told them about aria. (This is after they resolved the misunderstanding and confessed their love toward wazu).
「Okay. Let's kill that women, if possible in gruesome way」(Salona the Elf)
「That's right, it still to easy to let her live after betraying wazu-sama」(Tata the prostitute)
「As her friend i feel sad about this..., what kind of flower is good for her grave?」(Naminissa the younger sister of the twin)
「She will become the rust of my sword. No, to let it end in a short moment is not good」(Narellina the older sister of the twin)
「......Kill] (Haosui the 14 years old half dragon)
The goddesses also one of the best part of this series. They are having a chat room in wazu's guild card.....
We have hero BBS, About time we have God BBS or other social media since they don't have anything to do... And this novel is the funniest I had despite the NTR... Ntr? Fuck that bitch... She's a filler chara compared to the real bitch.
DevilHighDxD
2017-04-10, 14:27
are u sure u want to say that?? :eyebrow:
The girls that I like got taken by others (no shady shit like in most NTR) while I too dated girls that other people were pursing after. That's kinda how real world work. I think I even managed to get one girl to broke with her bf, not my intended outcome but still dated her.
This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel.
-Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden
- Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party.
One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell.
- Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero.
- In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN
- If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu.
- After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else.
- After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time.
- After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria.
- Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper)
- After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero.
-She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE.
-She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu....
Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 15:00
This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel.
-Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden
- Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party.
One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell.
- Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero.
- In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN
- If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu.
- After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else.
- After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time.
- After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria.
- Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper)
- After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero.
-She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE.
-She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu....
Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz
Whoa.... when the author said there would be changes, I didn't expect such a huge divergence from the WN.
Wow! Thanks for spoilers! Looks like author improved the thing.
Ugh the WN sounds horrible, is the current translator translating the WN or the LN?
The webnovel, not even the chinese translated the LN so you wil have to buy the LN yourself.
shogoki_vnz
2017-04-10, 17:12
Well I'm ok with the changes on Aria for the LN version, because man, if you told me that the hero has a Kouki like personality and still she fall in love with him, them the MC really dodged a bullet there.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 17:26
This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel.
-Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden
- Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party.
One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell.
- Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero.
- In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN
- If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu.
- After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else.
- After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time.
- After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria.
- Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper)
- After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero.
-She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE.
-She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu....
Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz
Meh..... Author ruin his story.... Tsk... It's good thing this got one NTR... But he clearly want make it as misunderstanding...
Dropped...
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 17:30
Meh..... Author ruin his story.... Tsk... It's good thing this got one NTR... But he clearly want make it as misunderstanding...
Dropped...
Aren't you just looking for rage fuel?
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 17:42
Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!!
Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk...
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 17:55
Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!!
Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk...
Sorry the web novel is done. And unless we create a device that lets us travel to Web Novel worlds (with chainsaws and corrosive elemental shotguns in hands), or chat with the author, we'll have to painfully accept it. No matter how much we want to break the 4th wall, and unleash Hyperion's robots.
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Off-topic:
Just how many mediorce revenges are there in WNs? Because I have a feeling they are quite common.
DevilHighDxD
2017-04-10, 17:55
Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!!
Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk...
You should read Chinese wn than, most MC literally just kill people for disrespecting them and is extremely revenge driven.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 18:09
Nah, that's not what I looking for...
With those changes are already 2 different characters
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 18:22
Aside from making Aria not a weak minded whore, does the LN have major improvements over the WN?
kampfer91
2017-04-10, 18:59
Aside from making Aria not a weak minded whore, does the LN have major improvements over the WN?
Which mean Wazu 's harem have no excuse to torture Aria :eyebrow:
And that is what WN funny to begin with .
i had enough of one kouki hero from arifureta. the LN changes sealed the deal. i'd rather see aria fallen to mellowed hero or cheap scenario who turn aria slowly to tsundere toward hero, melancholic and then head-over-heel during journey cause of circumstance (saved by him or he showed her his reliable side, or even rape is ok!) .
the background story relationship between aria-wazu and hero of LN just make wazu even more dweeby than wn.
The entire discussion is about NTR :heh:
@wuhugm
funny thing is, i haven't joined nor i instigated the discussion as i feel this lack the netorare scent potential i often feel from any netorare based material. :D
^Well, this is lukewarm
The thread is Ruki's solo-play
Demanding for bitch's blood :heh:
kaikalaila
2017-04-10, 20:55
From what I have gathered about the WN, MC's Godlike Harems have no right to even think of harming CHF since MC ditch her immediately. Sadly or fortunately the hero is written as assholes to justify MC.
Also the NTR is very light which might as well not be thought of NTR.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 21:14
^Well, this is lukewarm
The thread is Ruki's solo-play
Demanding for bitch's blood :heh:
You know me so well, my friend:heh:
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 21:34
Hmmm? What would happen if Ruki suddenly found himself in an Isekai castle, right after they either gathered and summoned the heroes? And he had a complete DOOM 2016 arsenal.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 21:46
DOOM? Are you talking about video games or movie? I have watch and play the game
I will start my own harem, but I won't stealing someone's
women... I will be very passive but will start genocide once some idiot provoke me...
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 21:59
The games of course. Rip and tear.
But really? I thought you would immediatly slaughter any duusha (your standard isekai hero. Eg; Kouki and this WN's hero) right on the spot.
Would it count as murder if I shotgun a hero's brain out? After I confirm that he's a duusha first.
^duusha, is that a combination from dumb + yuusha? :heh:
Well, if this were nocturne or from authors like 『Kane』『Chikara』『Onna』 ~Gomi na Ore, Isekai Itte Kuzu ni Naru~ (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=140641), the hero would be subjected to fate crueler than death after that first kiss :heh:
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 22:11
^Nope. Douche + Yuusha.
For me, simply shotgunning their brains out may not be enough. Sometimes, you see a character you hate so much, that death is too good for them. That you want to see them tortured until they regret being born. And by torture, I mean both physically and psychologically.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 22:14
Nah, I won't start killing any duusha... Unless they start something... It will be very.....Cruel...
For me, simply shotgunning their brains out may not be enough. Sometimes, you see a character you hate so much, that death is too good for them. That you want to see them tortured until they regret being born. And by torture, I mean both physically and psychologically.
This will actually have opposite effect.
Trying to prolong their sufferings will automatically requires them to get more screentime. More screentime means more villainy from these duusha. If it's like Game of Thrones, the villains deaths are very satisfying, but there's a chance it will be like Batman&Joker case. Eventually the duusha will be like Joker and can't be killed anymore... which was how the WN of this went.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 22:33
^Oh.... Well then again, these normally don't have a shred of dignity, so death should suffice.
But to be honest what I had in mind... might be too gruesome for details.
Anyway, can you, and anyone else list what JRPG classes you would like in your own fantasy harems? I just got an idea.
kampfer91
2017-04-10, 23:30
The manga adaptation will follow LN or WN ?
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 23:38
The manga adaptation will follow LN or WN ?
LN. NTR is gut wrenching to most people.
Ruki0089
2017-04-10, 23:43
And author is wimp to keep that NTR....
i'll be honest. i really like aria the childhood friend 's design in manga (or Light novel). she is like an archetype of pure nun-like character; reminding me of Shironegiya (miya9) ragnarok online's acolyte which is getting blackmailed, raped and netorared by the disgusting priest. i simply can't hate her because she is that good.
Ruki0089 and everyone may hate her, but for me..... i reallly really want to she her being soiled and broken throughoughly..... i don't want main character to forgive her. i want her trampled down and torn apart, until nothing pure in her remain.
Anyway, can you, and anyone else list what JRPG classes you would like in
your own fantasy harems? I just got an idea.
i hate fighting and power level story. i like eloquent character with smart tongue (witty or not), i prefer using wits and love money. so i guess some kind of Negotiator Strategist or Mediator Tactician or even Charismatic Wicked Merchant.... with basic level of military training endurance (strong enough body like normal soldier with basic fighting skill... not wuxia or martial artist level). pervert as character and womanizer is a must in this persona , also i hate too handsome almost girly gay character though i don't mind having a kimoota senpai face (from Kuroyuki/Chiroru 's Precure Milk Hunter series) as long as i have hygiene. also rape and netorare (with all its derivative) is allowed.
so i guess some kind of Petyr Baelish Littlefinger but less creepy and more pervertly immoral i guess?
The manga adaptation will follow LN or WN ?
100% LN. in the web novel aria kissed the hero in some place and wazu saw this while in the LN the hero didn't kiss aria and declare that he want aria as his wife in the balcony of the castle.
Time for aria's journey-Time went by fast and for these 2 year since she left the capital aria still searching for wazu
- She went from town to town while working part time as a guild member.
- She sometimes joined other adventurer party to search for a clue to find wazu and polishing her own skill. There are some other adventurer that tried to ask her to join permanently but she always refused.
- It was a bit complicated. but at times likes this, she is grateful for her own talent and power. She always despise her own power because it was the main reason why she must leave wazu in the first place.
- While working, aria heard some bad rumor (for her) about the hero. Apparently the hero still searching for her. She doesn't know if the hero want revenge or he is still loved her even after all of this, but for aria either way it was very disturbing and want to make her puke. The main problem here is the church started to spread information and post reward for those with the info to aria's where about. She started to move carefully around this time.
- When she is in the front of the gate of the kingdom where the twin sister live, she was found by the priest of the church of light. Looks like the church finally knew the reason why aria go rogue all this time and offer her the information about wazu's location. The church asked aria to join the hero's party once again to investigate the kingdom and also wazu is also seen in this kingdom and is being captured in there.
- Aria doesn't know if this is true or not, the church main objective must be for aria to join the hero's party once again. At this time aria already desperate enough because she never get any information about wazu, for her this information is very important to her. She finally agreed to the church's offer and started to go to where the hero's party is. She actually want to meet with the twin sister first but decided not to.
- She meet with the hero's party. The hero said that he doesn't mind about what she did last time and tried to befriend her once again. Aria of course ignore his advance and started to go to the kingdom that they need to investigate.
- When they reached their destination, the hero recklessly act without planning or discussing with his own party. Because of hero's foolishness, all of the hero's party member were captured including aria.
- Aria doesn't mind this, she thought that this is the best possible course for her. She can collect more info and if she want to, she can break out anytime from her jail cell because she is much more stronger than everyone right now.
- The reality is much more cruel, the cell where the hero's party being keep is placed with some kind of magic which drain all of their power and MP. Aria cannot do anything and think that maybe she cannot with wazu anymore. She is afraid of dying without meeting first with wazu. But later, the one who will save her is the very person that she searched all of this time.... This concluded the story that aria told wazu and his harem member when she wakes up.
Next will be the reaction of aria and harem member and wazu's decision
damn.... the author sure make aria into totally sweet lass!
i swear if this light novel getting famous and this poor aria doesn't get ntred and trully broken in doujin.....
DevilHighDxD
2017-04-11, 00:25
Running away just because his crush kissed another men is no different than in a typical NTR doujin where a beta cock MC just fap to his girl getting screw by another men. He deserved to be NTR'd, rightfully so. I will have confront the hero right there for touching my women, even if he is stronger than me. I will just train and come back later to fuck him up.
100% LN. in the web novel aria kissed the hero in some place and wazu saw this while in the LN the hero didn't kiss aria and declare that he want aria as his wife in the balcony of the castle.
Time for aria's journey-Time went by fast and for these 2 year since she left the capital aria still searching for wazu
- She went from town to town while working part time as a guild member.
- She sometimes joined other adventurer party to search for a clue to find wazu and polishing her own skill. There are some other adventurer that tried to ask her to join permanently but she always refused.
- It was a bit complicated. but at times likes this, she is grateful for her own talent and power. She always despise her own power because it was the main reason why she must leave wazu in the first place.
- While working, aria heard some bad rumor (for her) about the hero. Apparently the hero still searching for her. She doesn't know if the hero want revenge or he is still loved her even after all of this, but for aria either way it was very disturbing and want to make her puke. The main problem here is the church started to spread information and post reward for those with the info to aria's where about. She started to move carefully around this time.
- When she is in the front of the gate of the kingdom where the twin sister live, she was found by the priest of the church of light. Looks like the church finally knew the reason why aria go rogue all this time and offer her the information about wazu's location. The church asked aria to join the hero's party once again to investigate the kingdom and also wazu is also seen in this kingdom and is being captured in there.
- Aria doesn't know if this is true or not, the church main objective must be for aria to join the hero's party once again. At this time aria already desperate enough because she never get any information about wazu, for her this information is very important to her. She finally agreed to the church's offer and started to go to where the hero's party is. She actually want to meet with the twin sister first but decided not to.
- She meet with the hero's party. The hero said that he doesn't mind about what she did last time and tried to befriend her once again. Aria of course ignore his advance and started to go to the kingdom that they need to investigate.
- When they reached their destination, the hero recklessly act without planning or discussing with his own party. Because of hero's foolishness, all of the hero's party member were captured including aria.
- Aria doesn't mind this, she thought that this is the best possible course for her. She can collect more info and if she want to, she can break out anytime from her jail cell because she is much more stronger than everyone right now.
- The reality is much more cruel, the cell where the hero's party being keep is placed with some kind of magic which drain all of their power and MP. Aria cannot do anything and think that maybe she cannot with wazu anymore. She is afraid of dying without meeting first with wazu. But later, the one who will save her is the very person that she searched all of this time.... This concluded the story that aria told wazu and his harem member when she wakes up.
Next will be the reaction of aria and harem member and wazu's decision
I hope Kagane give a punchline there : "Bullshit, you (LN aria) must be from another parallel world and a wolf (evil god) in sheep clothing. Oniichan, let's kill this bitch already before she hurt you more and destroy the world!!" :heh:
I will have confront the
hero right there for touching my women, even if he is stronger than me. I will
just train and come back later to fuck him up.
not very smart , imo? you will only be beaten senselessly, sometimes won your lover ire and pity . never forget he is the hero. why fight in his battlefield? Sun Zi says know yourself and know your enemy, and thus even 100 battle will not be lost.
if it was me, i'll befriend the hero in front/surface, and 'rape' all his lovers behind his back until he have nothing left. no family, no loving mother and sister, no lovers and wife and not even cute innocent daughter for him. (if they like it, it ain't rape right?l
one of the basic rule in art of war is never fight an enemy in his own turf, drag and force them to come to your own advantageous fieldplay.
^So that is your Home Field Advantage lol :heh:
Why must beat him head on?~
Even that anime Gundam Orphan knows the beauty of assassination~
But this WN-LN fundamental change is normal nowadays
That Gang of Yuusha's LN, there's a sub-heroine who's in the LN not a heroine and a prostitute
DevilHighDxD
2017-04-11, 01:12
not very smart , imo? you will only be beaten senselessly, sometimes won your lover ire and pity . never forget he is the hero. why fight in his battlefield? Sun Zi says know yourself and know your enemy, and thus even 100 battle will not be lost.
if it was me, i'll befriend the hero in front/surface, and 'rape' all his lovers behind his back until he have nothing left. no family, no loving mother and sister, no lovers and wife and not even cute innocent daughter for him. (if they like it, it ain't rape right?l
one of the basic rule in art of war is never fight an enemy in his own turf, drag and force them to come to your own advantageous fieldplay.
Honestly if the MC were smart to begin with, his crush won't be stolen. If I am the MC, the one that proposed the marriage will be me not that cucking faggot. The hero must be doing something right if he can get the CHF to love him instead. Everything is fault on the beta cuck MC.
Ruki0089
2017-04-11, 01:22
Hahahaha! We got new character with same name with That bitch Aria!
DevilHighDxD
What you expect from wimpy author...
@wuhugm
my father taught me; "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. but not close enough so they can kill you first. " - Godfather 2
@DevilHighDxD
well, this is what you got when a main character have to be pampered and babysit by girls like Bell from Danmachi, instead of learning from their own mistake and growth like Kintaro Oe from Golden Boy.
@Ruki0089
just accept that you grown to like her instead of being tsundere, Ruki0089.
all best girls are always getting netorared.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-11, 01:31
^Uo oh. Ragy rant war incoming.
Ruki0089
2017-04-11, 01:34
@raintaid
Seriously? We got another bitch Aria from different dimension... To begin with, once I dislike something... I won't never like that something...
two aria is better than nothing. cause if one broken...... you still get a spare.
but if you dislike her, well... what can i say? i respect your opinion..... i just want to remind you that sometimes the process is more satsifying than the result.... though i don't mind to watch the situation unfold. i would gaze on the development lovingly.
^^won't + never = will :heh:
But you came to like Yukino~
@wuhugm
you killjoy. even though i've gone great detail to pretense ignorance....
Ruki0089
2017-04-11, 01:45
Ero Tora...
Tch, you don't to said that, Dammit.... But Yeah, I came to like yukino... But that's because the author of Junai is know how made hater to love his character
amatsunagi
2017-04-11, 03:28
Aria sure didn't change, huh~
handoi1560
2017-04-11, 03:38
100% LN. in the web novel aria kissed the hero in some place and wazu saw this while in the LN the hero didn't kiss aria and declare that he want aria as his wife in the balcony of the castle.
Time for aria's journey-Time went by fast and for these 2 year since she left the capital aria still searching for wazu
- She went from town to town while working part time as a guild member.
- She sometimes joined other adventurer party to search for a clue to find wazu and polishing her own skill. There are some other adventurer that tried to ask her to join permanently but she always refused.
- It was a bit complicated. but at times likes this, she is grateful for her own talent and power. She always despise her own power because it was the main reason why she must leave wazu in the first place.
- While working, aria heard some bad rumor (for her) about the hero. Apparently the hero still searching for her. She doesn't know if the hero want revenge or he is still loved her even after all of this, but for aria either way it was very disturbing and want to make her puke. The main problem here is the church started to spread information and post reward for those with the info to aria's where about. She started to move carefully around this time.
- When she is in the front of the gate of the kingdom where the twin sister live, she was found by the priest of the church of light. Looks like the church finally knew the reason why aria go rogue all this time and offer her the information about wazu's location. The church asked aria to join the hero's party once again to investigate the kingdom and also wazu is also seen in this kingdom and is being captured in there.
- Aria doesn't know if this is true or not, the church main objective must be for aria to join the hero's party once again. At this time aria already desperate enough because she never get any information about wazu, for her this information is very important to her. She finally agreed to the church's offer and started to go to where the hero's party is. She actually want to meet with the twin sister first but decided not to.
- She meet with the hero's party. The hero said that he doesn't mind about what she did last time and tried to befriend her once again. Aria of course ignore his advance and started to go to the kingdom that they need to investigate.
- When they reached their destination, the hero recklessly act without planning or discussing with his own party. Because of hero's foolishness, all of the hero's party member were captured including aria.
- Aria doesn't mind this, she thought that this is the best possible course for her. She can collect more info and if she want to, she can break out anytime from her jail cell because she is much more stronger than everyone right now.
- The reality is much more cruel, the cell where the hero's party being keep is placed with some kind of magic which drain all of their power and MP. Aria cannot do anything and think that maybe she cannot with wazu anymore. She is afraid of dying without meeting first with wazu. But later, the one who will save her is the very person that she searched all of this time.... This concluded the story that aria told wazu and his harem member when she wakes up.
Next will be the reaction of aria and harem member and wazu's decision
is that Aria from LN ?? :eyespin: so our MC doesn't be NTR in LN ??
Ruki0089
2017-04-11, 03:51
Yeah, unfortunately yes... In LN Our mc wasn't ntr-ed...
dragon1412
2017-04-11, 04:27
This discussion is so interesting that's it's hurting my sides
So, .... does Aria joins the harem in the LN or not? You guys are making my head spin here.
I mean, reading the story so far seems like it's next to impossible for her to fall for the hero - and he feels worse than Kouki, BTW. The latter is just an idiot but the former seems to actually go out of his way to be a Casanova.
^LN hasn't reached that part yet bro
Even if she does, it will be only at the ending :heh:
^LN hasn't reached that part yet bro
Even if she does, it will be only at the ending :heh:
So LN is vastly different than WN? Are there any chance that she wouldn't fall for the hero?
I don't really care if she joins Wazu or not, but the hero? One look at him in the illust and I felt that he's a douche.
- After finishing her story, wazu quickly apologize because he made aria experience all of this. It is really his fault for quickly deciding thing without properly look at it until the end.
- Aria said that it was okay and she is happy now because she can meet him now. Wazu keep apologizing and then aria said "can you only say sorry after all this time?". Wazu then express his feeling that he is happy that he can meet her now.
- While hugging each other, aria then mention that wazu reaallly have an interesting life after running out from the capital. Wazu the can smile weirdly after hearing her comment. Aria also explain that now he is surrounded by all kind of beautiful and cute women while increasing the pressure of her hug. Wazu's body also began to bend in a weird direction while screaming. After reasoning with her, she instanly released her grip.
- Aria also explain that she already knew from the twin sister that all of the girl in this room is his wife except for kagane and mao. She also mention about the promise while wazu have a questioning look in his face. his made her send out a death glare and heavy pressure toward wazu.
- Wazu quickly said that he remembered which makes aria praised him for remembering about the promise. She still want him to accept her as his wife now. She already talk with the twin sister and she got an ok from them. All the harem member also expressed their feeling about aria entering the harem. Looks like the there is no problem except for kagane. She have a problem with aria but it would be lonely if there is no one to pick up a fight to in the harem, so she accept her. She also know that this is her brother's fault in the first place.
- Wazu the formaly asked her to be together with her always and she accept him.
She is kinda worried about the hero and said that she will protect wazu but wazu said that it was okay. He can beat him if he do something to him right now.
- Wazu then showed both mao and aria his broken status and the goddesses blessing in his guild card. Mao feel awed and aria just look down depressed. Well, she train all this time to protect wazu, so if wazu is this strong right now is there any point for all of those hard effort that she put up in the past.
- She also mention about the goddesses. There is war, earth, and sea, but why the first only written as goddess. She know about the old gods and think that maybe this is the evil god? but quickly dismissed it because she help wazu so the goddess might not be a bad person. The preview chapter end when wazu and everyone get informed that the hero has already run away (everyone: ".......what?")
The preview showed half of the book. The beginning until the end of the preview is Mao and Aria's story.
^Is this legit?
Like a completely different novel yo~
Ruki0089
2017-04-11, 07:02
Who is that Aria girl? She looks completely different from the girl that had same name as here.... Tsk...
DevilHighDxD
2017-04-11, 07:06
I really don't get Japanese people sometimes, despite anything remotely similar to NTR and yet still produced the most NTR materials in the world.
- After finishing her story, wazu quickly apologize because he made aria experience all of this. It is really his fault for quickly deciding thing without properly look at it until the end.
- Aria said that it was okay and she is happy now because she can meet him now. Wazu keep apologizing and then aria said "can you only say sorry after all this time?". Wazu then express his feeling that he is happy that he can meet her now.
- While hugging each other, aria then mention that wazu reaallly have an interesting life after running out from the capital. Wazu the can smile weirdly after hearing her comment. Aria also explain that now he is surrounded by all kind of beautiful and cute women while increasing the pressure of her hug. Wazu's body also began to bend in a weird direction while screaming. After reasoning with her, she instanly released her grip.
- Aria also explain that she already knew from the twin sister that all of the girl in this room is his wife except for kagane and mao. She also mention about the promise while wazu have a questioning look in his face. his made her send out a death glare and heavy pressure toward wazu.
- Wazu quickly said that he remembered which makes aria praised him for remembering about the promise. She still want him to accept her as his wife now. She already talk with the twin sister and she got an ok from them. All the harem member also expressed their feeling about aria entering the harem. Looks like the there is no problem except for kagane. She have a problem with aria but it would be lonely if there is no one to pick up a fight to in the harem, so she accept her. She also know that this is her brother's fault in the first place.
- Wazu the formaly asked her to be together with her always and she accept him.
She is kinda worried about the hero and said that she will protect wazu but wazu said that it was okay. He can beat him if he do something to him right now.
- Wazu then showed both mao and aria his broken status and the goddesses blessing in his guild card. Mao feel awed and aria just look down depressed. Well, she train all this time to protect wazu, so if wazu is this strong right now is there any point for all of those hard effort that she put up in the past.
- She also mention about the goddesses. There is war, earth, and sea, but why the first only written as goddess. She know about the old gods and think that maybe this is the evil god? but quickly dismissed it because she help wazu so the goddess might not be a bad person. The preview chapter end when wazu and everyone get informed that the hero has already run away (everyone: ".......what?")
The preview showed half of the book. The beginning until the end of the preview is Mao and Aria's story.
It seems this is legit
I read an amazon review on vol 3
He said this is going the choroin+harem direction
So is vol 4 the end?
Aria also explain
that now he is surrounded by all kind of beautiful and cute
women while increasing the pressure of her hug. Wazu's body
also began to bend in a weird direction while screaming. After
reasoning with her, she instanly released her grip.
lol. no netorare, goddamn it. well there is always comiket, i shall entrust this dream to them.
kampfer91
2017-04-11, 07:29
Hard to find any NTR story that end with vengeance from the NTR-ed MC....
I guess whoever in charge of editing the story told the author to go with the current trend , MC got misunderstanding , girl got misunderstanding , MC trained to become OP and they reconcile in the end , plus 1 for Harem...
It seems this is legit
I read an amazon review on vol 3
He said this is going the choroin+harem direction
So is vol 4 the end?
Looks like vol 4 is not the end. There are so many new thing based from the preview chapters alone. Like the is the 4 king of the church of light, from what i read there are no such a thing like this. Also the church isn't really important in the WN but it looks like wazu's going to oppose the church now.
Btw, anyone knew the original harem member that introduced in the LN named cathy? what her story?
Hard to find any NTR story that end with vengeance from the NTR-ed MC....
I guess whoever in charge of editing the story told the author to go with the current trend , MC got misunderstanding , girl got misunderstanding , MC trained to become OP and they reconcile in the end , plus 1 for Harem...
There was one doujin I read long ago where the MC devided to turn the girl into his pet as revenge then he showed her to her new beau. :heh::heh::heh::heh::heh:
Just finished reading the raw, story is focused only in mc crying tragedy. There are too many filler comedy chapter inserted, in fact too many repetitive comedy act, like the thief saga, kneeling dragon king, cat & fish mon, etc.
Especially the thief chapter is used too much, female thief rank up test, pooping thief, boy plus grand family thief, bamboo sword thief, brief/trunk group thief. :eyespin:
Hero bashing, meeting aria, and last boss only happen far near the end of the WN, from chapter 190+ of 213 chapter. Last boss battle is lame btw.
It's prove that his childhood friend is real bitch and gold digger...
BTW, Which chapter Wazu trashing Shitty Hero??
chapter 197-198 if you still care.
Off-topic:
Just how many mediorce revenges are there in WNs? Because I have a feeling they are quite common.
No revenge at all,
one if you count the bashing of the hero, but he take it easy and no bloodshed at all.
Looks like vol 4 is not the end. There are so many new thing based from the preview chapters alone. Like the is the 4 king of the church of light, from what i read there are no such a thing like this. Also the church isn't really important in the WN but it looks like wazu's going to oppose the church now.
Btw, anyone knew the original harem member that introduced in the LN named cathy? what her story?
I think there would be an expansion to the hero story in LN. Coz in WN the last scene about him is only the duel chapter where he show his dick. There's no way an arrogant character like that will not take any revenge.
And it's to weird that they're not show up in the epiloque at all, even some of the thief has appeared in the epiloque (female thief become idol, boy thief become merchant). :heh:
Also maybe more back story about the op butler. IMO he should become the mc already replacing kuzu.
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As for Cathy it possible that she is the purple haired female thief as she is a recurring comedy character in wn (met several times with kuzu). But i don't have the LN so i can't confirm it.
Someone shared vol 4 's illustrations on tl's website.
http://imgur.com/a/PWQYM
Velveteen
2017-04-30, 01:49
So when exactly does he fight the "hero" could someone direct me to the chapters cause I'm only able to find up to 108 and I really wanna binge read.
Ohh, looks like vol 1 got improved too. Manga shows MC running to the mountain
while being chased by two monsters . Once there he gets saved by a dragon and a lich(?) who scare off the two monsters and then go away. MC survives for a while on poisoned stuff and fruits when ,a certain night, the goddess appears and gives him blessing. He already has his adventurer card(?) and seems to be already talking to the goddess. We are going to need someone to translate the manga to see what she says tough. After the blessing he starts training his body .
Ch ends with MC facing a slime
Ohh, looks like vol 1 got improved too. Manga shows MC running to the mountain
while being chased by two monsters . Once there he gets saved by a dragon and a lich(?) who scare off the two monsters and then go away. MC survives for a while on poisoned stuff and fruits when ,a certain night, the goddess appears and gives him blessing. He already has his adventurer card(?) and seems to be already talking to the goddess. We are going to need someone to translate the manga to see what she says tough. After the blessing he starts training his body .
Ch ends with MC facing a slime
New chapter out in the official site. Yes it got improved, he also already a guild member but he is only a f rank (the lowest one). Kinda jealous of the hero and started to apply as a guild member. He also think in the past that he doesn't want to be a burden to aria.
- Getting chased by the beast race to the mountain but was saved thanks to the dragon and lich who saw wazu and the beast which scared them off.
- The lich thought that wazu is an elf but realized that he is a human and impressed that wazu didn't get scared for seeing both of them there.
- The dragon brush it off and tell him that maybe the human is still shocked so he cannot think straight. Proceed to go with the lich and said there is no meaning in eating a single human because it will not make him full.
- Wazu spend many days in the mountain with extreme weather and condition while eating what he can find along the way (fruit, left over meat from a monster corpse,
flower,etc)
- After eating a poisonous flower and tried to rest he saw a ball of light in the sky (the goddesses) which proceed to go in his direction (she enter wazu's guild card)
- Having a NTR dream after that but after he get up he feel more refreshed and tried to use the guild card to see his status.
- The guild card didn't show number but the goddesses's comment on his status and the skill list function as a chat room for the goddesses. As of now all his status is til weak. She comment that she already knew what happened to him after seeing his dream and decided to give him a little blessing.
- Training time (he mainly tried to train his skill to eat everthing first by tasting all sort thing in that mountain. Also his resistance skill is ls not perfect at this time. He cannot negate abnormal status completely and can only reduce the effect of abnormal status. He also train his body to increase his VIT and by the end after he check the card he already have the body of steel)
- The goddesses showing her support, sympthy, and affection to wazu as written in his skill list that change every second as the conversation goes.
- In the end of the chapter wazu tried to hunt for meat because his skill already evolved into "he can eat everthing and it will be delicious in his mouth)". Set a trap but in the a slime appeared moving into his trap. Is slime delicious?
ValvraveTruth
2017-05-03, 16:30
Aria regret and wanted to apologize for a very long time not being able to keep the promise made when they are young. She explained during that 2 years expedition with hero team outside in countless of life & dead trial, Aria and hero actually did have a spark? Around the time of maou, Aria and hero become a thing.
WyrdMonger
2017-05-08, 01:02
Just to confirm something is Aria very one dimensional in the WN?
Aria regret and wanted to apologize for a very long time not being able to keep the promise made when they are young. She explained during that 2 years expedition with hero team outside in countless of life & dead trial, Aria and hero actually did have a spark? Around the time of maou, Aria and hero become a thing.
This is the WN version, not the new version right?
rei_hunter
2017-05-08, 22:08
I'm glad the author changed up.
It just doesnt make sense that CHF just.... forgets about MC in 2 years.
well now i'm interested to read the LN. but sadly what's being translated right now are theWN version
Love13012000
2017-05-14, 08:26
Why can not I open it spoiler?
Fuck this mc.. just arrrgh. You got a godamn harem you idiot!! Why bother one girl!!!!
If I'm there I will beating him black and blue..
she is his childhood friend they know each other for years and loved each other and promised to get married and in just 2 years she switch to the hero the web novel version is the true meaning of NTR
I agree. judging from her illustration she is hot. who says that anyone who has been ntr'ed can't be ntr'ed back? as long as you put an effort anything is not impossible.
ValvraveTruth
2017-05-16, 07:46
This is simply a light Ntr. Its true that they both promised each other when they are young(it depends on how you see it, as it is not uncommon to not follow the promise made when young), but things can change after she spent 2 years time(constant closeness in life & death environment) with the hero(regardless the hero an actual d1ck or not).
To the MC himself, yes he is hurt by it, but at the same time he knows the "harem" care about him. In a way its not really a big deal without "that" one girl in the end, if you know what I mean.
WyrdMonger
2017-05-16, 21:33
What does the Mc's imouto think of Aria's decision, and her opinion of her by the end of the series?
rei_hunter
2017-05-17, 23:00
in LN? No idea.
for WN, sister hates her :x
Ruki0089
2017-05-18, 01:20
And in WN the girls in MC's harem... Want to murder her...
In LN... Maybe they accept her...
WyrdMonger
2017-05-18, 01:44
in LN? No idea.
for WN, sister hates her :x
In the WN did the imouto ever meet her?
I get the feeling that she sees Aria as a cruel traitor, who doesn't deseve happiness.
Speaking of which, on bato it was mentioned she bickers with the hero. Does WN Aria end up with a stressful, unhappy life? I already know she marries the prick along with the rest of the harem, and manages it along with the kingdom.
rei_hunter
2017-05-18, 02:28
In the WN did the imouto ever meet her?
I get the feeling that she sees Aria as a cruel traitor, who doesn't deseve happiness.
Speaking of which, on bato it was mentioned she bickers with the hero. Does WN Aria end up with a stressful, unhappy life? I already know she marries the prick along with the rest of the harem, and manages it along with the kingdom.
WN Aria becomes married to the hero, with a promise not to mess around with MC's life.
WN Aria along with the other wives of the hero (Yeha he got more) works hard so that the country they're in is growing well. Because Yuusha is a fucking dick,
WyrdMonger
2017-05-18, 02:38
WN Aria becomes married to the hero, with a promise not to mess around with MC's life.
WN Aria along with the other wives of the hero (Yeha he got more) works hard so that the country they're in is growing well. Because Yuusha is a fucking dick,
So she does get a happy ending, despite her not so harmless actions? No karma?
Honeslty when I see BS like this, I just want the series to suck.
One a scale of one to ten, how would you rate both the WN and LN?
rei_hunter
2017-05-19, 00:30
So she does get a happy ending, despite her not so harmless actions? No karma?
Honeslty when I see BS like this, I just want the series to suck.
One a scale of one to ten, how would you rate both the WN and LN?
Yeah. WN Ended with MC having a gangbang.
While WN Aria was just making sure the hero didn't do anything bullshit.
And its a semi happy ending for aria.
So that's a 1 for the WN.
For the LN, its taking a step to makesure its no longer NTR. The hero is a jealous asshole. Like always.
Its about a 6 for me atm.
Hi
Does anybody knows who is the loli with purple hair and armor that appears in vol 2 and 3? I only know that she only appears in the LN
Hi
Does anybody knows who is the loli with purple hair and armor that appears in vol 2 and 3? I only know that she only appears in the LN
I think it is the purple haired female thief.
Btw, anyone knew the original harem member that introduced in the LN named cathy? what her story?
As for Cathy it possible that she is the purple haired female thief as she is a recurring comedy character in wn (met several times with kuzu). But i don't have the LN so i can't confirm it.
coded321
2017-06-05, 12:26
is the current translation of the wn or ln?
is the current translation of the wn or ln?
Web novel.
WyrdMonger
2017-06-06, 17:09
Did the corrupt church that was responsible for WN Aria's fall received karma?
medassin
2017-06-08, 21:13
come here due manga and status =)) may i ask can he married goddess?
Ratedhook522
2017-07-04, 19:41
Wait what happens to Aria in the light novel?
ooPeaToo
2017-07-05, 08:20
Cover and preview of volume 5. :)
http://viewer.comic-earthstar.jp/viewer.html?cid=9232fe81225bcaef853ae32870a2b0fe&cty=0&lin=0
http://www.es-novel.jp/img/books/sonomono05.jpg
coded321
2017-07-08, 11:19
Considering the differences between the ln and wn, would you guys recommend reading the wn translation?
I attempted to read the WN (raw) and.... It was too cringe-worthy for me to stand more than 2-3 chapters. It was just too painfully obvious that the author was trying to go for the "hurr durr, I'm too dumb to realize I'm OP" thing at the start and there was next to no build up at the beginning. It just starts with the MC coming down from the mountain with only a brief mention of why he was there.
While reading this topic i decided to drop reading the web novel and keep with the manga and hope for a Light Novel translation as it seems the LN goes away of the NTR path.
I wonder if J-Novel Club would be interested in translating it.
btw I think that the cover for vol 5 is the goddess (the one with pink hair)
btw I saw people complaining about the fact that the LN is different than the WB in the ntr factor and calling the author a wimp or the like. You guys know that maybe is not that the author wanted to change but had to cause of the editor or publisher right? Also while is a LN is also a business, is normal to try drag a bigger number of buyers.
Tabeleta
2017-07-10, 20:11
I read the WN using GT and I have to ask, why is everyone so fixed with childhood friend? For god's sake, there a Silver-haired elf, a ex-brothel onee-san, big breasted red-haired twins, a loli kuudere dragon girl, blood-related imouto (INCEST!!), kemonomimi (though she had too little screen time on the WN). And there's the 4 goddesses and Meru too I think.
Why even care because MC didn't get the childhood friend? Like, childhood friends are even made to lose all the time in most harems, right? I even liked the fact that the author didn't go with the usual misunderstanding cliche.
Ruki0089
2017-07-10, 20:23
Well, some people desire childhood join MC's harem... While I'm not... I want her to be killed along the Hero!!!
WyrdMonger
2017-07-11, 06:34
Why even care because MC didn't get the childhood friend? Like, childhood friends are even made to lose all the time in most harems, right? I even liked the fact that the author didn't go with the usual misunderstanding cliche.
I think it's because she broke their promise, and choosed a complete scumbag over him for petty reasons.
ooPeaToo
2017-07-16, 05:10
The illustrations vol 5 :D
vol 5 : http://imgur.com/a/bB9vw
.....The body proportions in the last two images really bother me there.
I read the WN using GT and I have to ask, why is everyone so fixed with childhood friend? For god's sake, there a Silver-haired elf, a ex-brothel onee-san, big breasted red-haired twins, a loli kuudere dragon girl, blood-related imouto (INCEST!!), kemonomimi (though she had too little screen time on the WN). And there's the 4 goddesses and Meru too I think.
Why even care because MC didn't get the childhood friend? Like, childhood friends are even made to lose all the time in most harems, right? I even liked the fact that the author didn't go with the usual misunderstanding cliche.
That just setting the author gave for mc.
Besides MC isn't that great too. Before he got power he was nothing. And he got power from goddesses pitying him yet still acting like a wimp toward girls (WN).
The illustrations vol 5 :D
vol 5 : http://imgur.com/a/bB9vw
https://i.imgur.com/BbptxxB.jpg
I guess this is the other blessed wimp like wazu.
who is the muscle?
does the white hair?
sasarai124
2017-07-16, 10:42
The author start writing sequel その者。のちに… 第二部
http://ncode.syosetu.com/n7971ec/
The author start writing sequel その者。のちに
第二部
http://ncode.syosetu.com/n7971ec/
for the web novel ?
Ruki0089
2017-07-16, 10:54
Hope the childhood friend got some kind of punishment...
sasarai124
2017-07-16, 11:05
It sequel from light novel and the different between them is new heroine half-dwarf Cathy and Aria include in Harem and Shiro and Darkness goddess not dead.
Ruki0089
2017-07-16, 12:10
What~~~~??
WyrdMonger
2017-07-16, 12:37
The illustrations vol 5 :D
vol 5 : http://imgur.com/a/bB9vw
I've been following the manga, is the purple hair woman the mini dragon or the goddess?
Also incoming Gaypire.
Hope the childhood friend got some kind of punishment...
While it would be satisfying to see WN Aria suffer a truly karmic fate where she has absolutely no happiness left, such as Yes, being singed, impaled to a mountain side and then cursed with immortality, but there's really no point in the author writing it.
Will the loss of humanity of Wazu continue, or in the wb/novel already lost it?
rei_hunter
2017-07-16, 16:59
lol that sequel.
If the machinelators are gonna translate it, translate it now. xD
Ratedhook522
2017-07-16, 17:13
I've gotta say I'm happy about the light novel being completely different from the web novel. In the web novel he's literally a crying bitch while in the light novel he becomes a badass.
coded321
2017-07-16, 23:50
I don't suppose there an ln translation floating around somewhere?
rei_hunter
2017-07-17, 02:38
I don't suppose there an ln translation floating around somewhere?
only summaries.
Ok so i'm a bit confused with the illustration of the characters.
As for the harem members (the picture at the bottom)
https://s13.postimg.org/7407v7xo7/kuzu.png
From left to right: Naminissa, Haosui, Merel baby dragon, Tata, little sis, Sarona, Narellina.
Who is the last one with purple hair on the bottom right? :confused::confused:
Also, i heard that there's Mao and Cathy. I've already known that Mao is the daughter of Deizu from latest chapter 142 webnovel, who is Cathy?
ChaosHead90
2017-08-09, 06:06
Can someone give me a link where to download a raw light novel of this?
Ratedhook522
2017-09-08, 00:10
Is it confirmed that the manga is following the light novel instead of the web novel, cause I just finished reading the recent chapter of the manga and at the end of the chapter wazu was once again in tears crying like a bitch when the elf girl rejected him sooo?
Wtf, check vol 6 synopsys.
Got summoned to isekai 1 week before wedding with his harem members.Has to save world and return home in time for wedding.
Tabeleta
2017-09-28, 19:41
Is it confirmed that the manga is following the light novel instead of the web novel, cause I just finished reading the recent chapter of the manga and at the end of the chapter wazu was once again in tears crying like a bitch when the elf girl rejected him sooo?
Yes, the manga follows the Light Novel.
The biggest difference is that on the WN Aria(childhood friend) ends with the hero(lol). Till she meets with the Wazu again(volume 4 I think) there's not much of a difference between the WN and LN. This includes all the misunderstandings and so on.
Also a new girl joins the harem(I think she's the purple haired thief girl?) on the Light Novel
ShifuGamer
2017-09-29, 05:22
Yes, the manga follows the Light Novel.
The biggest difference is that on the WN Aria(childhood friend) ends with the hero(lol). Till she meets with the Wazu again(volume 4 I think) there's not much of a difference between the WN and LN. This includes all the misunderstandings and so on.
Also a new girl joins the harem(I think she's the purple haired thief girl?) on the Light Novel
Does the childhood friend still stick with the "hero"? Doesn't the Mc beat up the hero and "reveal is true colours?
in the web novel she is slut and yea she stay with the hero and his harem
ShifuGamer
2017-09-29, 07:58
in the web novel she is slut and yea she stay with the hero and his harem
But what about the light novel?
zerodragon
2017-09-29, 08:19
But what about the light novel?
the kiss was the hero force himself on her and hero annoce marriage with out her consent in front of the crowd. she couldn't embrass the hero in front of the kingdom, so she played along. her goal was to get stronger then the hero and go look for wazu never knowing he saw the whole only thing
it was talk about awhile ago in the thread so my memory isn't perfect
Ruki0089
2017-09-29, 09:30
Hah! Mc is wimp even though he could have destroy that trash hero... He should go humiliate and destroy him after gained that power..
Tabeleta
2017-09-29, 19:51
^@runset posted the summary about Aria's POV on volume 4 of the LN in 3 parts, but making it short:
-Wazu, Aria and hero(lol) knew each other since young;
-hero(lol) bullied Wazu all the time, Aria really hated him. Wazu & Aria Love Love 4ever :D;
-She was forced to travel with the hero's party to defeat the Demon Lord, her hate for him kept increasing even more;
-When they came back, hero(lol) tried to kiss her(the scene at the manga), but she gave him a straight right in his nose and went after Wazu, but he was already gone;
-Aria and Kagane decided to leave the town and go look for him;
-hero(lol) and church tried to bring her back, but she was able to flee and keep looking for Wazu;
-2 years later and no clue of Wazu, she started to get desperate, that's when the church to join the hero's party once again to investigate a kingdom where they said that Wazu was seen in there;
-She and the party went there, hero(lol) not only didn't learn his lesson and still tried to get intimate with her, but even made them get caught and locked in a special jail;
-When she thought she was going to die, Wazu appears and save her.
-The harem was together with him, so you can imagine what's going to happen(hint: A divine sword can't hurt Wazu, but it seems that Yanderes are stronger than it :heh:)
Darkwolf907
2017-10-03, 08:18
Is there illustration for ln vol 6 ?
Artha.pend
2017-10-15, 11:27
Us freud only a butler? How did he manage to stop wazu's fist?
Artha.pend
2017-10-28, 11:16
From what I've read, it is implied that there are 5 goddess in total. Does that mean the goddess of darkness that blessed the mastermind, one of the 5?
Triok123
2017-11-16, 06:08
does the chibi dragon has any role at all???
kampfer91
2017-11-16, 20:33
More like , does the chibi dragon have any human form at all ??
Triok123
2017-11-26, 06:33
sooooooo...finally reached the chapter were aria meet with wazu and the "ntr" happened....so, why so much hate toward her?. i mean, while true she broke the promise, her action is relatively undestandable, the bond she forged with hero is likely strong during the maou subjuction. and more she even felt bad about her own betrayal, so she not a bad person at all... so why she is so hated??
also the part about she being a gold digger? couldn't really find it...can anyone make a explaination?
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 08:17
Nice question... let me answer, unlike the others, i won't call her gold digger, so i don't have to answer this...
... while she indeed good girl, she betray Wazu, especially Wazu really love her and he saw that scene (Kissing Scene)... When she want to tell Wazu about this, She know that this is the worst possible way and will hurt him in the end... yup, its hurt him a lot... it so bad that destroy his will to live...
Also according to Imouto, Aria is a real bitch that's excluded her NTR case...
The Author is coward just like Wazu, he changed it because some idiots want her to join Wazu's harem...
sooooooo...finally reached the chapter were aria meet with wazu and the "ntr" happened....so, why so much hate toward her?. i mean, while true she broke the promise, her action is relatively undestandable, the bond she forged with hero is likely strong during the maou subjuction. and more she even felt bad about her own betrayal, so she not a bad person at all... so why she is so hated??
also the part about she being a gold digger? couldn't really find it...can anyone make a explaination?
Most of the readers just believe that main character (doesn't matter whether he is incompetent and useless fool) should have possessed all girls no matter what.
But yeah, Aria left MC is totally acceptable and understandable considering how pathetic, poor and emotionally fragile the MC was before he become strong. Why would a beautiful and competent woman gamble her future on the MC? If the MC was truly in love with her, he should have take the initiative to improve himself within these few years and be a better man for her before her returns, alas he didn't.
Nice question... let me answer, unlike the others, i won't call her gold digger, so i don't have to answer this...
... while she indeed good girl, she betray Wazu, especially Wazu really love her and he saw that scene (Kissing Scene)... When she want to tell Wazu about this, She know that this is the worst possible way and will hurt him in the end... yup, its hurt him a lot... it so bad that destroy his will to live...
Also according to Imouto, Aria is a real bitch that's excluded her NTR case...
The Author is coward just like Wazu, he changed it because some idiots want her to join Wazu's harem...
So you think she should have sacrifice her future to marry someone she didn't like just because that useless man will commit suicide if she left him alone?
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 09:00
@Sixth
You have different opinions with me...
It was mentioned that Aria love him till that Church force her to join Hero...
@Sixth
You have different opinions with me...
It was mentioned that Aria love him till that Church force her to join Hero...
Well, to me , it seems very realistic. As someone said, the bond that they shared within 2 years were greater than being with MC. It is very common for people's taste to change if they grew up and learn and understand more about the world. There is no deny that Aria may ended up with MC if she never left the village, but she did. She learned and found something that she like it even more or compatible to her taste. I am totally won't blame her for change of heart.
The MC should blame himself for not able to keep it up.
and oh yeah, I also don't like how the LN changed her because I think she was not being MC's woman made the story more interesting to read.
^Thus she stops being a heroine, QED
sooooooo...finally reached the chapter were aria meet with wazu and the "ntr" happened....so, why so much hate toward her?. i mean, while true she broke the promise, her action is relatively undestandable, the bond she forged with hero is likely strong during the maou subjuction. and more she even felt bad about her own betrayal, so she not a bad person at all... so why she is so hated??
also the part about she being a gold digger? couldn't really find it...can anyone make a explaination?
why so much hate toward her? well, let me give you analogy, you had a fiancee, both of you love each other and not only that, she is your first love too (I dont know about you, but from my knowledge, first love is always special), but suddenly your fiancee must study abroad for 2 years, you just waiting for her patiently while live your life like always. 2 years later, you got escited because your fiancee will come back but what await you is your fiancee kissing with someone, and he is from prestigious family and prestigious university.
if you think that her action for betraying you is reasonable/understandable, then I wont question your taste. BUT for me or If it had happen to me, no matter how much I can understand her betrayal, it is still quite hard to swallow.
while she feel guilty about her betrayal, it still didnt change the fact that she betray me (wazu in this case). and I think people saying she is gold digger is just to make an explanation why she love that hero, I mean, indeed they got in life and death situation together BUT the Hero is a JERK, even the others party member didnt like him right? it is still understandable IF the Hero is good person or not a jerk, BUT because he is such a jerk, how can she love him while the other party member dislike him? the only explanation is MAYBE, she is gold digger.
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 09:36
I'm about to comment the same thing... Thank you for good analogy, @Hujan
well, people that didnt hate her is either they are not into the story (meaning: read as third point of view, not as MC point of view, that's why they can swallow her betrayal as someone else problem, not their problem) or they had a different taste.
but I didnt agree with your opinion too, Ruki. about how you said the author is coward.
IMO, this author and Black Maria Author are a brave author (in a bad way). well, both author manage to Piss off the fans with unpredictable course of event. and to do that, it needed bravery, because it is inevitable that both will get hated and bullied by fans rage. while black maria is extreme one, this is not so extreme but still...
many people think that Aria will be either, got cruel end or turn out misunderstanding and join the harem but, nobody think that she will get happy ending with hero.
while some people didnt like the change in LN, I quite like it (comparing with WN, it is better IMO). because I am sure that IF the author didnt change it, the editor will ask to change it or at least change the ending for Hero and Aria. I think there wont be any complain or fans asking Aria to be heroine If the WN ending is like this :
"Aria marry the Hero, but turn out the Hero is just abusing husband and had NTR fetish, that's why he make her snusnu with other people while he just watching and after he got tired of her, he just dump her, in the end, she just became a prostitute in the slum, and dying alone, with no one that care about her, and we got her point of view about how she regretted her choice at that time".
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 09:56
Nah, he is coward when he changed Aria in LN...
"Aria marry the Hero, but turn out the Hero is just abusing husband and had NTR fetish, that's why he make her snusnu with other people while he just watching and after he got tired of her, he just dump her, in the end, she just became a prostitute in the slum, and dying alone, with no one that care about her, and we got her point of view about how she regretted her choice at that time".
I love this... someone should send this to author
why so much hate toward her? well, let me give you analogy, you had a fiancee, both of you love each other and not only that, she is your first love too (I dont know about you, but from my knowledge, first love is always special), but suddenly your fiancee must study abroad for 2 years, you just waiting for her patiently while live your life like always. 2 years later, you got escited because your fiancee will come back but what await you is your fiancee kissing with someone, and he is from prestigious family and prestigious university.
if you think that her action for betraying you is reasonable/understandable, then I wont question your taste. BUT for me or If it had happen to me, no matter how much I can understand her betrayal, it is still quite hard to swallow.
Welcome to real life, and the sensible action for this is to move on. Not to condemn or stalk your former girlfriend or fiancee like a petty loser.
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 10:05
Well, we talking about fictions... not real life...
Well, we talking about fictions... not real life...
I know but the whole Aria/MC thing happened in real life too.
It seems that you guys are really into the whole idea that MC of the story SHOULD monopolised ALL WOMEN in the series regardless how incompetent he is. :heh:
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 10:14
I know but the whole Aria/MC thing happened in real life too.
It seems that you guys are really into the whole idea that MC of the story SHOULD monopolised ALL WOMEN in the series regardless how incompetent he is. :heh:
Well, don't include me to those guys... i don't even like the idea Aria join mc's harem
I'm completely agree how incompetent our mc is... he is wimp, trash, and his low self-esteem is annoying...
to be honest, i don't give damn care about him... mc is wimp even he got OP power.
Welcome to real life, and the sensible action for this is to move on. Not to condemn or stalk your former girlfriend or fiancee like a petty loser.
well, move on is move on, but we are talking about "why people hate her?"
may I ask you, If your wife/lover/girfriend/fiancee cheating, will you hate her and move on, condemn her and move on, dissapointed with her and move on, or just "oh okay and move on" without feeling anything?!
If you choose "oh okay and move on" without feeling anything?!, I wont question your taste or how strong your love, BUT at least you can undersand why there is people who choose to "hate her and move on, condemn her and move on, dissapointed with her and move on" right?!
and that's the answer for the question, "why people hate her".
I know but the whole Aria/MC thing happened in real life too.
It seems that you guys are really into the whole idea that MC of the story SHOULD monopolised ALL WOMEN in the series regardless how incompetent he is. :heh:
well, it is not about MC of the story SHOULD monopolised ALL WOMEN, but about the ending of the story, it is hard to swallow, how much jerk the hero is and after Aria betrayal, they still got happy ending. I wont complain If the hero is a good person and they got happy ending. but because he is not, then...
well, move on is move on, but we are talking about "why people hate her?"
may I ask you, If your wife/lover/girfriend/fiancee cheating, will you hate her and move on, condemn her and move on, dissapointed with her and move on, or just "oh okay and move on" without feeling anything?!
If you choose "oh okay and move on" without feeling anything?!, I wont question your taste or how strong your love, BUT at least you can undersand why there is people who choose to "hate her and move on, condemn her and move on, dissapointed with her and move on" right?!
and that's the answer for the question, "why people hate her".
Of course people will feeling angry, frustrated, and sad but in this kind of situation, move on is the sensible option here. What do you want people to do? Take a knife and go kill her and her lover for betraying and making your sad -OR- commit suicide or left your family members because you got heartbroken?
Also, hating her because she found her true love is extremely shallow reason considering that the MC himself was not exactly a fantastic lover or person.
well, it is not about MC of the story SHOULD monopolised ALL WOMEN, but about the ending of the story, it is hard to swallow, how much jerk the hero is and after Aria betrayal, they still got happy ending. I wont complain If the hero is a good person and they got happy ending. but because he is not, then...
To be fair, in Aria's life, she was surrounded by 2 men, one is a reputable hero who is a jerk and another one is a incompetent loser who has zero quality as a man. If she was destined to married a terrible person, might as well go for Jerk Hero. At least she won't get starved to death for being penniless. She wasn't a prophet so of course she won't and doesn't know the MC will ended up to be the strongest person in the world..but then, even with a huge power up, the main character is still acting like a pussy...so yeah. :uhoh:
But at least Aria was being decent woman for not dumping Hero straight away like other shallow girls after the MC trashed him. She made her choice and she will live with it to the end.
Ruki0089
2017-11-26, 12:25
Once again, I'm completely agree with you how incompetent our mc is... he is wimp, trash, and his low self-esteem is annoying...
well, the question is "why people hate her", and you agreeing with me that people will feeling angry, fustrated, and sad in that situation mean that you can understand "why people hate her" (well it is not you who ask but this discussion base on this question, so...). well, if you think that hating her is a shallow reason, I wont argue with you because if I read as third person, I agree with you but IF I read as first person (as Wazu) I still hate her for betraying me. but the point is people who dont hate her can understand why people hate her, and that's enough.
and about the second part, well it is your taste and opinion and I wont force my taste or opinion to you. I respect your opinion and I hope you respect my opinion too.
although I dont agree with you saying "Aria is decent woman". I got a problem when cheating story got happy ending. look at this, : Aria love MC, then separated, meet a Jerk Hero, love him (I dont agree with you saying it as true love because of what I will say next...), then dump MC.
ok, let make the next story, Aria marry Hero, but somehow, they got separated, then she meet another jerk hero, they got into situation life and death like before, so what do you think will happen? Yes, if we follow previous pattern, she will dump her husband to going out with the new hero. although, she didnt dump Hero straight away after MC trashing him, but IF we follow the pattern as before, then Aria will dump Hero for the next Hero. that's why I didnt agree if you say Aria is decent woman, and it is her true love.
but it is my opinion, you dont necessarily agree with me, but at least you can understand why people hate her and think she is not a decent woman. and I understand your point of view, but I still didnt agree with it, but the point is not agreeing with another opinion but understanding each other. isnt it good, if we can understand each other different opinion?
And from the hatred towards Aria we pass to Wazu, who certainly is somewhat useless when it comes to love, but it's never presented himself as useless in other areas, omitting his power, it was because of his own capacity that he survived at the beginning and it was not as if when he entered in the mountain he acquired everything, he also can interact with other people, and most importantly, he was the one who started most of the relationships with the heroines, in spite of being emotionally weak and self despise more and more for every misunderstanding, the only bad thing is that in the absence of more detail and seriousness on the part of the author, the growth of Wazu remains in shutting himself and cry.
And speaking of Aria, it is easy to understand why she is hated, even a child would know that, and no, it is not because the readers want all the women for the MC, that is a cheap argument, Aria is seen as the choroin heroine who will fall for whoever is Kakkoii/Hero, despite showing his trash side, and if you put Aria as a gold digger, remember Wazu has her little sister who would do anything for him and that everyone knew she was a genius, so Aria wanted to live her fairy tale, even if that means staying with a false hero.
Soulwarfare42
2017-11-26, 17:39
I don't particularly mind that Aria chose the hero but the problem in this story is the way it was handled.
As many have said before if the hero didn't have such a jerk personality then people would understand it more. She fell in love with him because he saved her loads of time with his super strength just sounds like a gold digger. The worst part is that during flashback we see that Aria had a nice personality and the fact that she fell for such a jerk just didn't sound believable at all. The light novel changing this fits better for the story as Aria isn't such a moron now.
Though I can also understand why people call the author a coward but if he needed the hero to still retain a jerk personality for the story then him changing Aria into a better character is worth it.
I think this web novel is very good, many of "fodder" chapters are interesting, for example:
Bandit chapters: i laughed it hard
The Bandid Chapter, when his fiancee is watching from the bush: pure gold, that got on my knees.
I just getting the pop corn for the hero's beating.
By the way are the light novels translated to english?
and about the second part, well it is your taste and opinion and I wont force my taste or opinion to you. I respect your opinion and I hope you respect my opinion too.
although I dont agree with you saying "Aria is decent woman". I got a problem when cheating story got happy ending. look at this, : Aria love MC, then separated, meet a Jerk Hero, love him (I dont agree with you saying it as true love because of what I will say next...), then dump MC.
ok, let make the next story, Aria marry Hero, but somehow, they got separated, then she meet another jerk hero, they got into situation life and death like before, so what do you think will happen? Yes, if we follow previous pattern, she will dump her husband to going out with the new hero. although, she didnt dump Hero straight away after MC trashing him, but IF we follow the pattern as before, then Aria will dump Hero for the next Hero. that's why I didnt agree if you say Aria is decent woman, and it is her true love.
She is decent woman because she doesn't dump the hero and crawl back to MC after the MC trashed him so badly. It wouldn't be difficult to make the pussy MC to accept her to his harem if she wanted too considering that the pussy MC fall in love in every woman he had encountered. In fact, wasn't that she want to have a clean and proper breakup with MC before she went for the Hero and that was why she waited so long to meet MC?
You said she would have jumped to the next hero if she met one but none of the plot suggested because in the end, she chose the difficult road by working with other hero's harems to "rehabilitate" the hero and govern their country or kingdom. She made her choice and she decided to live with it instead of rage quit and went for easier way.
But seriously, do you seriously think that Aria should marry to the person she was not longer in love but had to do so due to promise she made in the past?
Well, like I said,
but it is my opinion, you dont necessarily agree with me, but at least you can understand why people hate her and think she is not a decent woman. and I understand your point of view, but I still didnt agree with it, but the point is not agreeing with another opinion but understanding each other. isnt it good, if we can understand each other different opinion?
indeed there is no plot that sugested it because the story ended like that, but if we follow the same pattern as before then... after she fall in love in the new guy, she will have a clean and proper break up with the hero... you dont necessarily agree with me...
also for your question, "Nope", she can marry hero.. just that, I am a kind of person who is hard to forgive betrayal/cheating... that's why I hope she had a bad end with hero... it is just my taste that didnt like person who do a bad thing (in this case is cheating/betrayal) got a happy ending... and I kind of like seeing someone got karma (in this case, I hope that hero dump her because he found his true love, and become OTP with her, and that will be Aria karma because she dump Wazu before....), but again, that's MY TASTE
Well, like I said,
indeed there is no plot that sugested it because the story ended like that, but if we follow the same pattern as before then... after she fall in love in the new guy, she will have a clean and proper break up with the hero... you dont necessarily agree with me...
An empty speculation as she didn't do that to the very end.
also for your question, "Nope", she can marry hero.. just that, I am a kind of person who is hard to forgive betrayal/cheating... that's why I hope she had a bad end with hero... it is just my taste that didnt like person who do a bad thing (in this case is cheating/betrayal) got a happy ending... and I kind of like seeing someone got karma (in this case, I hope that hero dump her because he found his true love, and become OTP with her, and that will be Aria karma because she dump Wazu before....), but again, that's MY TASTE
That was not very nice and healthy mentality. Just saying.
Also, Hero has harems, and Aria was apparently cool with it.
Ruki0089
2017-11-27, 00:26
An empty speculation as she didn't do that to the very end.
That was not very nice and healthy mentality. Just saying.
Also, Hero has harems, and Aria was apparently cool with it.
To you... While me not...
An empty speculation as she didn't do that to the very end.
yes, it is empty speculation because the story had ended with her being with hero...
but like I said, based on the fact before, with the same pattern...
1.) Aria love Wazu --> got separated --> met hero, journey, and in life and death situation for 2 years --> fall in love with the hero --> want to meet Wazu to had proper break --> break up
2.) Aria love Hero --> got separated --> met new guy, had life and death situation (untill this point, if we follow the same pattern, then...) --> fall in love with the new guy --> want to meet hero to had proper break up --> break up.
my point is, there is a possibility for someone who had cheating once, to cheat again...
That was not very nice and healthy mentality. Just saying.
Also, Hero has harems, and Aria was apparently cool with it.
well, if you say that someone who want to see karma to happen as a not very nice and healthy mentality, I had no saying to your opinion...
and well, the point is not Aria cool with it, but about Kama, I hope Hero found his true love then his true love didnt want harem, so Hero dump Aria and the other harem...
The novel is not so good per se, the only acceptable is the protagonist himself, who is the one who has more development (obviously), but I still don't understand the mania to keep saying "pussy" to the MC, who wanting to overcome his weak side trying other relationships, which by his own ability survived at the beginning in the mountain and who before formalizing the harem faced his weakness and Aria, accepting his decision, meanwhile Aria decides to stay with the garbage of the false hero who can not accept that other women is not part of his harem, who looks like a child in rebellious stage for losing against Wazu, showing little self respect to herself, on the other hand I don't think Wazu will accept her if the case is given, since he respects the harem decisions, and the harem does not want Aria.
P.S: Aria of the novel can be considered another character since it does not look like anything from Aria to the wn.
The novel is not so good per se, the only acceptable is the protagonist himself, who is the one who has more development (obviously), but I still don't understand the mania to keep saying "pussy" to the MC, who wanting to overcome his weak side trying other relationships, which by his own ability survived at the beginning in the mountain and who before formalizing the harem faced his weakness and Aria, accepting his decision, meanwhile Aria decides to stay with the garbage of the false hero who can not accept that other women is not part of his harem, who looks like a child in rebellious stage for losing against Wazu, showing little self respect to herself, on the other hand I don't think Wazu will accept her if the case is given, since he respects the harem decisions, and the harem does not want Aria.
P.S: Aria of the novel can be considered another character since it does not look like anything from Aria to the wn.
Agree with you that at least, Wazu still better than Hero in the end...
about the LN, I am agree with Soulwarfare
I don't particularly mind that Aria chose the hero but the problem in this story is the way it was handled.
As many have said before if the hero didn't have such a jerk personality then people would understand it more. She fell in love with him because he saved her loads of time with his super strength just sounds like a gold digger. The worst part is that during flashback we see that Aria had a nice personality and the fact that she fell for such a jerk just didn't sound believable at all. The light novel changing this fits better for the story as Aria isn't such a moron now.
Though I can also understand why people call the author a coward but if he needed the hero to still retain a jerk personality for the story then him changing Aria into a better character is worth it.
yes, it is empty speculation because the story had ended with her being with hero...
but like I said, based on the fact before, with the same pattern...
1.) Aria love Wazu --> got separated --> met hero, journey, and in life and death situation for 2 years --> fall in love with the hero --> want to meet Wazu to had proper break --> break up
2.) Aria love Hero --> got separated --> met new guy, had life and death situation (untill this point, if we follow the same pattern, then...) --> fall in love with the new guy --> want to meet hero to had proper break up --> break up.
my point is, there is a possibility for someone who had cheating once, to cheat again...
There is no possibility because it didn't happened. I would hate to see those ex convicts walking passing through you because you are so judgemental and narrow minded.
well, if you say that someone who want to see karma to happen as a not very nice and healthy mentality, I had no saying to your opinion...
and well, the point is not Aria cool with it, but about Kama, I hope Hero found his true love then his true love didnt want harem, so Hero dump Aria and the other harem...
Yes. Was hoping others getting bad karma because that said person doesn't did the things that favored you is bad.
Assuming if hero really dumped Aria for other girl, Aria will simply move on and deal with it.
I didnt favor cheating and hope that person who cheat got bad karma, if you saying that's is bad... uhm, okay...
Ruki0089
2017-11-27, 01:12
There is no possibility because it didn't happened. I would hate to see those ex convicts walking passing through you because you are so judgemental and narrow minded.
Yes. Was hoping others getting bad karma because that said person doesn't did the things that favored you is bad.
Assuming if hero really dumped Aria for other girl, Aria will simply move on and deal with it.
Dude, you think everyone same as you?
Not everyone like that... Seriously, not everyone will accept cheating, deal with it and move on...
Some will grief about it... Some will rage... And few idiots actually want to take revenge (all of this happened in real life)
I didnt favor cheating and hope that person who cheat got bad karma, if you saying that's is bad... uhm, okay...
She will have to spend her entire life with a terrible person to the end and she was willingly to accept her punishment.. how is that not a bad karma?
She will have to spend her entire life with a terrible person to the end and she was willingly to accept her punishment.. how is that not a bad karma?
because the ending just tell us, "she manage the country with the hero".
IF author adding one word or sentence that show how terrible person the hero is and she got her bad karma, for example "she manage the country with the abusing hero" then I am fine with it.
because the ending just tell us, "she manage the country with the hero".
IF author adding one word or sentence that show how terrible person the hero is and she got her bad karma, for example "she manage the country with the abusing hero" then I am fine with it.
It doesn't have to have the words abuse, really. JUst something like "She struggles to manage the country with her husband, the hero" would have implied a lot more.
Arashikun
2017-11-27, 06:28
You guys are still debating on what happened in the WN as well as the changes that happened in the LN? Hmmm, as a rather open minded person, I didn't quite mind the changes, tbh. I guess some of you still can't get over it. *gets popcorn*
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