Ore wo Suki Nano wa Omae Dake ka yo

[WyrdMonger]

Ore wo Suki Nano wa Omae Dake ka yo (The one who loves The Great Me is only you?!) is a light novel written by Rakuda, and illustrated by Buriki.

Synopsis:

"Question: What would you do, if a girl you're interested would confess to you? On top of it, it wouldn't be just the on girl. A cool upperclassman adored by the whole school. And your cheerful, energetic childhood friend. I bet you would be over the moon. Thing is.. there was a problem about the contents of that confession..."

Kisaragi Amatsuya believes that both the school president, and his childhood friend will finally confess to him. But....
They're actually in love with his friend Sun. They both fall in love with him when they saw him crying from his last defeat in baseball. Kisaragi then decides to date whoever doesn't end up with Sun.
But it looks like the main girl will be someone he didn't expect.


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I hate NTR as much as the next guy. Although, this probably doesn't really count as NTR

[dark44]

well good that we know it is NTR so wont waste time read it thanx for info

[Blueknight78]

ok since in manga thread someone ab079 told to come here to get some info, then to not waste my time in another pointless generic harem romcom, then i can get some info, if indeed what i read in the manga section is true, like after few chaters the girls go to love mc and forget his friend and all turn in the stupid generic romcom??, the premise was really good about the mc turning in a cupid and every girl he tried to wins and make his harem ended falling for another, i really, really would love to see a romcom like that where the mc really end getting the end of stick and never really get a girl for himself and every girl he try to wins and make his harem ending falling for another guy and he having to help things, that could be the true refresh and not just some "pretend to refresh but in the end just another generic one.

[BladeMancer]

ok since in manga thread someone ab079 told to come here to get some info, then to not waste my time in another pointless generic harem romcom, then i can get some info, if indeed what i read in the manga section is true, like after few chaters the girls go to love mc and forget his friend and all turn in the stupid generic romcom??, the premise was really good about the mc turning in a cupid and every girl he tried to wins and make his harem ended falling for another, i really, really would love to see a romcom like that where the mc really end getting the end of stick and never really get a girl for himself and every girl he try to wins and make his harem ending falling for another guy and he having to help things, that could be the true refresh and not just some "pretend to refresh but in the end just another generic one.
That would be a weird story.

[Blueknight78]

That would be a weird story.

but still funny and refresh.

[AB079]

First of all, this was made by a friend who bought all 4 volumes of this LN, volume 5 will come out in like 1 or 2 months (?).

-Himawari is the childhood friend, Cosmos is the student council president. Both of them on volume 1 tried to use the MC for their own benefit, when they dislike something about the MC they just throw shit against him. Yes the MC finally explodes and shit on both of them.

-Sun was an assshole at the beginning too because he was using the feelings of Himawari and Cosmos to mess with the MC's life basically because Sun likes Panji (the best girl and the most beautiful one in this LN, who loves the MC) and because long time ago the girl that Sun liked used him just to get closer to the MC. Long story short Sun wants revenge.

-Panji (best girl) is a really thoughtful girl and the only person who understand her is obviously the MC. She is incredibly beautiful with an amazing body but she hides it because she don't want certain person to find her, this person appears on volume 4 and she realize her cover is useless because this person recognize her inmediately.

-The MC is quite a nice guy but that's not quite accurate because his inner thoughs are very different.

-After Sun's plan is ruined on volume 1, the relationship between the MC, Himawari and Cosmos change and both girls start to like him a lot, to the point that both of them confess their feelings on volume 4 to the MC.

-Panji loves the MC because she met him in the past while she wasn't using her cover (means he met her while she was a beautiful girl). Since then Panji started to take some interest on him.

-Sun likes Panji but only for her looks. Sun makes some excuses to the MC about the reason why he likes Panji but all of them are lies, he only likes Panji for her looks. Now he's trying to go out with her.

-In volume 4 Panji makes a promise that if Sun's school wins she will go out with him (instead of the MC). The thing is one of the people from the other school is the one that she never wanted to see but this person recognize her right away.

This random person is another guy who wants to go out with Panji, she did this promise because of this person (even when Panji ONLY loves the MC). Obviously the MC interfere with Sun and the other guy saying that the one who wins will go out with Panji and the one who lose will get a punishment, that is never get close to Panji again.

The MC has the lead in this bet but Cosmos, Himawari and another girl from volume 2 joins the enemy team because if the MC wins then Panji will stop being a rival, basically Panji would be the winner. Here is where every single one of these girls confess their feelings to the MC, and say that they want to be his girlfriend.

The MC said that once this challenge ends he will say who's the girl he loves.


http://i65.tinypic.com/293f2hu.png

[WyrdMonger]

Holy.... Wow. That bato commenter was wrong.

I get the feeling volume five will be the last.

[Ophis]

but still funny and refresh.

I really don't see what's so funny and refreshing about reading the MC getting screwed over and over and having his efforts wasted throughout the whole series. Honestly speaking, that's quite twisted. But, each to their own, I guess? :uhoh:


Back to topic. I'm quite put off by the premise of the story. Not because both of the girls were in love with his friend, but because the MC was planning to pathetically stick around the girls to get the "leftover" of his friend. He didn't even have a girl he liked among the two, and was okay with any of them that his friend didn't want.

Seriously, that's way beyond lame and pathetic. :upset:

[runset]

Holy.... Wow. That bato commenter was wrong.

I get the feeling volume five will be the last.

Vol 5 is the last, but it was the last of "school arc ". Saw some spoiler while searching it (it's not a complete spoiler only revealed some situation in that page alone).

-this random person who saw through panji's disquise as explained by AB079 is named hosu. He directly confessed his own feeling to panji.
- MC also acknowledge that he is much more better than him in every aspect. You can say that hosu is some kind of cheat main character in a story.
- While the match is still goin on, MC explained to panji that hose already become someone who understand and accept the result even if MC win or lose this bet.
- MC actually want to be the one while explained this to panji, but he said this to her. "The one who will choose it's not me, but You". "Let's see everything through the end, and please decide about what do you want to do after this"
- The last spoiler page is about MC choose everyone rather than one girl in the end. He said something about how he can not be satisfied anymore. He always imagine and dream of going out with cosmos or himawari in the past and have a lovely school life in the end, but he was not satisfied anymore. He has grown up and aiming for amazing harem right now which trigger the summoning of dark cosmos. MC the said that he understand about what cosmos want to say, he understand that multiple marriage is not legal in japan. But there is no rule that he cannot have multiple girlfriend in school right?
The spoiler page ended there showing all the girl getting mad at our MC. (the illustration is in akibablog. go see it for yourself)

[Blueknight78]

I really don't see what's so funny and refreshing about reading the MC getting screwed over and over and having his efforts wasted throughout the whole series. Honestly speaking, that's quite twisted. But, each to their own, I guess? :uhoh:
Seriously, that's way beyond lame and pathetic. :upset:
this could means which the mc job could be actually help others developers relationship and learn more about true romance rater than being the pathetic "otaku selfinsert selfish fail nice guy" and maybe near the end he can find a girl like one girl which was watching over is actions from 'background and after see he helping others like that she ending falling for him and confessing to him, getting him totally suprised by getting someone from what he not was expectating. you can be very creative when you have freedom and don't need to follow the "obligatory otaku cliches".
Vol 5 is the last, but it was the last of "school arc ". Saw some spoiler while searching it (it's not a complete spoiler only revealed some situation in that page alone).

-this random person who saw through panji's disquise as explained by AB079 is named hosu. He directly confessed his own feeling to panji.
- MC also acknowledge that he is much more better than him in every aspect. You can say that hosu is some kind of cheat main character in a story.
- While the match is still goin on, MC explained to panji that hose already become someone who understand and accept the result even if MC win or lose this bet.
- MC actually want to be the one while explained this to panji, but he said this to her. "The one who will choose it's not me, but You". "Let's see everything through the end, and please decide about what do you want to do after this"
- The last spoiler page is about MC choose everyone rather than one girl in the end. He said something about how he can not be satisfied anymore. He always imagine and dream of going out with cosmos or himawari in the past and have a lovely school life in the end, but he was not satisfied anymore. He has grown up and aiming for amazing harem right now which trigger the summoning of dark cosmos. MC the said that he understand about what cosmos want to say, he understand that multiple marriage is not legal in japan. But there is no rule that he cannot have multiple girlfriend in school right?
The spoiler page ended there showing all the girl getting mad at our MC. (the illustration is in akibablog. go see it for yourself)


well in the end the mc is really twisted and a selfish scum as the beginner and really looks like i really don't need to waste time on that serie.

another note at last he had the balls to confess which he want a harem which is really rare in novels the mc being honest about wanting a harem.

[BladeMancer]

Vol 5 is the last, but it was the last of "school arc ". Saw some spoiler while searching it (it's not a complete spoiler only revealed some situation in that page alone).

-this random person who saw through panji's disquise as explained by AB079 is named hosu. He directly confessed his own feeling to panji.
- MC also acknowledge that he is much more better than him in every aspect. You can say that hosu is some kind of cheat main character in a story.
- While the match is still goin on, MC explained to panji that hose already become someone who understand and accept the result even if MC win or lose this bet.
- MC actually want to be the one while explained this to panji, but he said this to her. "The one who will choose it's not me, but You". "Let's see everything through the end, and please decide about what do you want to do after this"
- The last spoiler page is about MC choose everyone rather than one girl in the end. He said something about how he can not be satisfied anymore. He always imagine and dream of going out with cosmos or himawari in the past and have a lovely school life in the end, but he was not satisfied anymore. He has grown up and aiming for amazing harem right now which trigger the summoning of dark cosmos. MC the said that he understand about what cosmos want to say, he understand that multiple marriage is not legal in japan. But there is no rule that he cannot have multiple girlfriend in school right?
The spoiler page ended there showing all the girl getting mad at our MC. (the illustration is in akibablog. go see it for yourself)

That end part.
He went from worst to best MC of all time, holy shit

[dragon1412]

Vol 5 is the last, but it was the last of "school arc ". Saw some spoiler while searching it (it's not a complete spoiler only revealed some situation in that page alone).

-this random person who saw through panji's disquise as explained by AB079 is named hosu. He directly confessed his own feeling to panji.
- MC also acknowledge that he is much more better than him in every aspect. You can say that hosu is some kind of cheat main character in a story.
- While the match is still goin on, MC explained to panji that hose already become someone who understand and accept the result even if MC win or lose this bet.
- MC actually want to be the one while explained this to panji, but he said this to her. "The one who will choose it's not me, but You". "Let's see everything through the end, and please decide about what do you want to do after this"
- The last spoiler page is about MC choose everyone rather than one girl in the end. He said something about how he can not be satisfied anymore. He always imagine and dream of going out with cosmos or himawari in the past and have a lovely school life in the end, but he was not satisfied anymore. He has grown up and aiming for amazing harem right now which trigger the summoning of dark cosmos. MC the said that he understand about what cosmos want to say, he understand that multiple marriage is not legal in japan. But there is no rule that he cannot have multiple girlfriend in school right?
The spoiler page ended there showing all the girl getting mad at our MC. (the illustration is in akibablog. go see it for yourself)


seriously ??????

[Ophis]

Vol 5 is the last, but it was the last of "school arc ". Saw some spoiler while searching it (it's not a complete spoiler only revealed some situation in that page alone).

-this random person who saw through panji's disquise as explained by AB079 is named hosu. He directly confessed his own feeling to panji.
- MC also acknowledge that he is much more better than him in every aspect. You can say that hosu is some kind of cheat main character in a story.
- While the match is still goin on, MC explained to panji that hose already become someone who understand and accept the result even if MC win or lose this bet.
- MC actually want to be the one while explained this to panji, but he said this to her. "The one who will choose it's not me, but You". "Let's see everything through the end, and please decide about what do you want to do after this"
- The last spoiler page is about MC choose everyone rather than one girl in the end. He said something about how he can not be satisfied anymore. He always imagine and dream of going out with cosmos or himawari in the past and have a lovely school life in the end, but he was not satisfied anymore. He has grown up and aiming for amazing harem right now which trigger the summoning of dark cosmos. MC the said that he understand about what cosmos want to say, he understand that multiple marriage is not legal in japan. But there is no rule that he cannot have multiple girlfriend in school right?
The spoiler page ended there showing all the girl getting mad at our MC. (the illustration is in akibablog. go see it for yourself)


Okay, now you got me interested. Though not that much since I really am not fond of non-fantasy/supernatural stories. :p

this could means which the mc job could be actually help others developers relationship and learn more about true romance rater than being the pathetic "otaku selfinsert selfish fail nice guy" and maybe near the end he can find a girl like one girl which was watching over is actions from 'background and after see he helping others like that she ending falling for him and confessing to him, getting him totally suprised by getting someone from what he not was expectating. you can be very creative when you have freedom and don't need to follow the "obligatory otaku cliches".

What you're saying now doesn't match with your first post on the matter. Having an MC acting as a sort of cupid out of his own will is one thing, but what you were saying before was that you wanted to read about an MC that tries to get a girl just to get screwed and have said girl(s) go after other people.

That's not the MC helping others develop their relationship, but just the MC getting screwed over and over without repayment for his efforts. That's just pointless suffering and drama.

[Blueknight78]

Okay, now you got me interested. Though not that much since I really am not fond of non-fantasy/supernatural stories. :p



What you're saying now doesn't match with your first post on the matter. Having an MC acting as a sort of cupid out of his own will is one thing, but what you were saying before was that you wanted to read about an MC that tries to get a girl just to get screwed and have said girl(s) go after other people.

That's not the MC helping others develop their relationship, but just the MC getting screwed over and over without repayment for his efforts. That's just pointless suffering and drama.

this is "gag, have the mc suffering already happened in a lot of novels like ore no nona but most of the them the mc suffer but still get the girls of the harem, i was more like he being a "forced culpid", exactly as punishiment for his bad behavious as the typical mc pervet which keep dream as a harem king, almost like what we have here, the mc in the beginner was puting a fake face to try to get a harem for himself and it somehow for a short time backfired on him, but could be really interesting and funny it backslash him everytime and being a gag on the serie he trying to get a girl in his "fail harem" and get screwed over it in funny ways, that for a romcom can be funny if you not looking for "serious things" and really fun romcoms.

what i'm saying is which could be really interesting if a crap guy like that really get punished as he diserve and only near the end after he get enough and learn what he needed to learn maybe he can get a reward or no if the serie is just about really descontruction of a gender, in this case the descontruction of harem gender and his tropes.

is just a matter of taste.

[Okashira]

I haven't checked this, but glasses sounds like my type of girl (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C72hoe3VMAEDBoL.jpg). Though if seitou kaichou-chan(?) turns out to be a yandere(?) that's going to be hard to let go as well.

And I love how the MC's brain works (https://twitter.com/kaminote0721/status/835644259386601472) :heh: :heh: :heh: , having a Kars' laugh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unuadNjSbRw) also earns him points in my book, he even goes ドドドドド when thinking about girls :heh: :heh: :heh:

Hash tags are fun~~~

[Diluc]

First of all, this was made by a friend who bought all 4 volumes of this LN, volume 5 will come out in like 1 or 2 months (?).

-Himawari is the childhood friend, Cosmos is the student council president. Both of them on volume 1 tried to use the MC for their own benefit, when they dislike something about the MC they just throw shit against him. Yes the MC finally explodes and shit on both of them.

-Sun was an assshole at the beginning too because he was using the feelings of Himawari and Cosmos to mess with the MC's life basically because Sun likes Panji (the best girl and the most beautiful one in this LN, who loves the MC) and because long time ago the girl that Sun liked used him just to get closer to the MC. Long story short Sun wants revenge.

-Panji (best girl) is a really thoughtful girl and the only person who understand her is obviously the MC. She is incredibly beautiful with an amazing body but she hides it because she don't want certain person to find her, this person appears on volume 4 and she realize her cover is useless because this person recognize her inmediately.

-The MC is quite a nice guy but that's not quite accurate because his inner thoughs are very different.

-After Sun's plan is ruined on volume 1, the relationship between the MC, Himawari and Cosmos change and both girls start to like him a lot, to the point that both of them confess their feelings on volume 4 to the MC.

-Panji loves the MC because she met him in the past while she wasn't using her cover (means he met her while she was a beautiful girl). Since then Panji started to take some interest on him.

-Sun likes Panji but only for her looks. Sun makes some excuses to the MC about the reason why he likes Panji but all of them are lies, he only likes Panji for her looks. Now he's trying to go out with her.

-In volume 4 Panji makes a promise that if Sun's school wins she will go out with him (instead of the MC). The thing is one of the people from the other school is the one that she never wanted to see but this person recognize her right away.

This random person is another guy who wants to go out with Panji, she did this promise because of this person (even when Panji ONLY loves the MC). Obviously the MC interfere with Sun and the other guy saying that the one who wins will go out with Panji and the one who lose will get a punishment, that is never get close to Panji again.

The MC has the lead in this bet but Cosmos, Himawari and another girl from volume 2 joins the enemy team because if the MC wins then Panji will stop being a rival, basically Panji would be the winner. Here is where every single one of these girls confess their feelings to the MC, and say that they want to be his girlfriend.

The MC said that once this challenge ends he will say who's the girl he loves.


http://i65.tinypic.com/293f2hu.png
FCK!!!:mad::mad:
what a huge let down and here i thought we would get a fresh gem but turned out this series is another trash copies of harem romcom.
I am glad my high expectation towad this series only ended at one day.

[Disdanny]

Is volume 5 the final one? idk I think mc should not be with the two typical girls childhood friend was being fake at him and that president also. Clearly MC needs to end up with the best girl I only read good things about her Pansy. Does anyone have a link for a detail volume summaries?

[VooXoo]

I was hopig to find the summary here, gotta wait more.

[Hujan]

Vol 5 had come out in April, and vol 6 in August,
so, has anyone read it and give us spoiler or maybe can give us link to spoiler? (in japanese, chinese, korean or whatever, as long as we can translate it with google translate). thanks.

[runset]

Vol 5 had come out in April, and vol 6 in August,
so, has anyone read it and give us spoiler or maybe can give us link to spoiler? (in japanese, chinese, korean or whatever, as long as we can translate it with google translate). thanks.

Type "ameblo kamakura 俺を好きなのはお前だけか"in google. It will display all link to review and detailed spoiler of this series for each vol. It will be more faster this way because the blog writer also reviewed and give spoiler to other LN.

The manga chapter now is in where jyoro is being framed by his best friend sun-chan and being bullied by all of his classmate you should read it. You can read it for free in shonen jump +(plus) website. I think new chapter will be released once every month on the same day as WORLD'S END HAREM.

[Hujan]

Type "ameblo kamakura 俺を好きなのはお前だけか"in google. It will display all link to review and detailed spoiler of this series for each vol. It will be more faster this way because the blog writer also reviewed and give spoiler to other LN.

The manga chapter now is in where jyoro is being framed by his best friend sun-chan and being bullied by all of his classmate you should read it. You can read it for free in shonen jump +(plus) website. I think new chapter will be released once every month on the same day as WORLD'S END HAREM.

Thanks, I had search it, and found many spoiler, although I dont quite understand, vol 6 is about summer vacation, and I had saw the manga, such a shame that it is monthly manga, I need more...

EDIT : at first I type "俺を好きなのはお前だけか" and "ameblo kamakura" in two different tabs, and I just found bookmeter, amazon, dengekibungko and etc, and I dont quite understand the spoiler in there, but after I search "俺を好きなのはお前だけかよ ameblo kamakura", I found the website that you mean (it turn out you mean ameblo kamakura 俺を好きなのはお前だけか as one and not separated *silly me*), and it is quite good and I can understand it. THANKS A LOT.

[Kuroageha]

Thots, thots everywhere.


Good thing Panji still is best girl.

[Hujan]

Thots, thots everywhere.


Good thing Panji still is best girl.

Kuroageha-sama, had you read the LN !? in the review, they leave the most important part (of course, because it is review not spoiler) but it make me want to know more.

[Eclar]

One of the spanish fansubs that I usually follow left this:

みんながドキドキするラブコメ、あります。

　キミは、女の子のおっぱいを触ったことはあるかい？
　俺は、ある。しかも、二人――。そして、おっぱいタッチしたその子たちの彼氏でもあるのだ。ようやく来た ぜ。人生の最高潮ってやつが。ん？　パンジー、ひまわり、コスモス、あすなろの四人からの『告白』への返事 はどうしたって？　おっぱいタッチしたサザンカとチェリーとの二股恋愛。
　それが答えだ。……釈明は本編でやらせてくれ!!

The group said that after receiving multiple confessions, Joro will make a final decision about the girls.

Volume 7 will come out on november 10.


Oh and btw, the manga reached the confrontation part. It left me with a bitter taste, and it is still not over.

[AB079]

Is actually something like this.


Have you ever touched a girl's tits?
I did, also two of them. And besides, I'm the boyfriend of the girls to whom I touched their breasts.
Hm? the answer to the confession of Panji, Himawari, Cosmos and Asunaro? I'm in a double relationship with Sazanca and Chery. That's the answer.

[Eclar]

Welp, thanks for the clarification. :heh:

[VooXoo]

Reading the synopsys I really wonder who he will get with at the end.
Childhood F and Cosmos are out for me,
Pansy...should be the one but it seems like the author don't want the default end, maybe a newcomer will get him and surprise everyone, anyway this is a nice sotry, a new unused formula.

[Kuroageha]

Doubtful, they chose her as one of the months heroines of Agust.

[VooXoo]

Months heroine?

[Hujan]

I think the manga had reach near the end of vol 1, at the time like this, I hope I can read Japanese.
I want to know what happen in volume 1, how he resolved the conflict in the story (more detailed summary).

[runset]

I think the manga had reach near the end of vol 1, at the time like this, I hope I can read Japanese.
I want to know what happen in volume 1, how he resolved the conflict in the story (more detailed summary).

Well the rest is basically MC jyoro confronting sun-chan and save panji from his attempted rape. He just choke sun's collar and told him that he cannot forgive him for deceiving cosmos and himawari's feeling like that. Their feeling is genuine for him and to just using them like that it pisses of jyoro. Sun also afraid seeing this kind of jyoro, he never knew about this side of him.. After "talk no jutsu" and skip time a little forward, sun apparently confess his sin to everyone and panji said that his reason is basically that he doesn't want to lose to jyoro again. Seeing jyoro defending panji and even getting angry for the sake of cosmos and himawari makes sun feel inferior to him. The end of vol 1 is basically ended with their straining relationship (Sun, himawari, cosmos, and Jyoro). Jyoro now is spending with panji and she finaly revealed her true body form to jyoro. Jyoro remember seeing this sexy one-san in the past but kinda feel regret that even though her look and body is his favorite her personality is rotten.

[Hujan]

What the Hell. so the next manga chapter,
Sun tried to rape Panji?!
also, sun apparently confess his sin to everyone, by everyone in here, you mean everyone in class (because of Sun framing, Jyoro got bullied in class, right?) or just to Himawari and Cosmos?
I am surprise they still friend after all of that... or NOT. yeah japanese LN always make forgiving MC. like in Chuuko demo,
even after the seiyuu do all of that, they still forgave her,
and even after the bully tried to rape the heroine in Middle School, why the heroine doesnt tell her parent and report to Police?! sigh...
also, how many volume that you had read, runset? if you dont mind, can you tell me what the ending for each volume? in ameblo kamakura web that you tell me before had a very good reviews, and because it is reviews, they just explain the start and the conflict in the story without telling us how they resolved the conflict (the conclusion/ending).
that's why it is a good reviews that make me want to buy (If had money) the books, but I can't yet read Japanese. Aarrrgghh....

By the way, Thanks for the more detail vol 1 ending, Runset-san

[runset]

What the Hell. so the next manga chapter,
Sun tried to rape Panji?!
also, sun apparently confess his sin to everyone, by everyone in here, you mean everyone in class (because of Sun framing, Jyoro got bullied in class, right?) or just to Himawari and Cosmos?


Not next chapter but In the current chapter he already tried to do that. He said to panji after all of the explanation that she did about her failure in calling him into the library right now because at this time there will be no one who can hear them and nobody came too. Of course panji told jyoro to stay in the back because she knew sun will act like this. Before he can touch/rape her, the chapter ended with jyoro coming out to confront sun-chan.

Yes to everyone and this is why he got the same treatment as jyoro by getting ostracized. As for jyoro, it doesn't mean he got away with this.
The rumor about him still linger and his true nature is already revealed so everyone still dislike him because of this and in the next vol the rumor is getting more out of control because of certain person which makes all the people despise him more and more.

I will not write the ending of each vol, sorry about that. Need to sleep right now.

[Hujan]

Not next chapter but In the current chapter he already tried to do that.
I will not write the ending of each vol, sorry about that. Need to sleep right now.

Thanks for clarification and telling me. maybe next time you had free time, you can write it (still hoping). Thanks a Lot.

[VooXoo]

Could not resist and looked the manga raws, poor MC gets bullied hard...and all for acting a part and never hurting anyone, Sun is really a mofo for destroying him in public that way, and childhood friend is worse for me.
Sure he wasn't the good guy they thought, but isn't Sun really made him a villain to everyone, I know what changed after through this topic but still can't imagine how MC returned to normal life later.

[Hujan]

Could not resist and looked the manga raws, poor MC gets bullied hard...and all for acting a part and never hurting anyone, Sun is really a mofo for destroying him in public that way, and childhood friend is worse for me.
Sure he wasn't the good guy they thought, but isn't Sun really made him a villain to everyone, I know what changed after through this topic but still can't imagine how MC returned to normal life later.

Exactly, Sun is Mofo and Himawari is a bitch.what worse is (from what I get in impression) in Vol 2, it is Jyoro who tried to make up, not them! although what they do is worse than what Jyoro do. if you feel guilty, why dont you that first approach to make up, not otherwise. I really hope Jyoro didnt approach them to make up, he still had Pansy as a friend to talk to, by the way. but NO, author didnt do that.

For what I get in vol 2 impression (dont know if I read it roght or wrong though) :
because of suspicion of deceiving two school beaties, he got bullied in school, and although Sun had confess, his position is still the same, and their relationship became strained, then Asunaro interview Jyoro to write in school newspaper. after that, there is Pansy in Jyoro home, usual romcom antics. Jyoro go to Himawari house to clarify and send Sun a letter to meet at rooftop to make up with study and game as pretext. finally make up with two people.
jyoro invite Pansy to study meeting, after midterm there is festival, there is dance (3 girls and 1 man) and the legend that who dance here, will together with 1 of 3 girls. Jyoro supposed dance partner is Himawari, Cosmos and dont know the last girl (maybe Pansy, maybe Asunaro)...
chatting with Asunaro, Sadako videos, then somehow make up with Cosmos. called to rooftop by Asunaro, telling "you are the worst, Kudzu" with suspicion deceive 3 girls now (2 girl before plus Pansy). and threatening will reveal it in article.
how's the end? who knows, the writer didnt tell us....
and I wonder how Himawari and Cosmos attitude toward Jyoro, are they feel guilty? and how they fall in love with Jyoro? is it in vol 3? but it look like in vol 3, they had fallen? why they fall for jyoro?
and how their attitude toward Sun after he confessing his 'sin'? are they disillusioned with him? are they hate him now like how they dissing Jyoro before? or are they still friendly with him?
This is why the impression is... are there no spoiler except for impression? (although I am still thankful, but...)
I wonder, are there any fans who support Himawari and Cosmos...?

[sparhawk1610]

Vol 7 illus https://imgur.com/a/tT5b8

[AB079]

Just by the illustrations seems like the preview wasn't something deceiving...

[maton456full]

OK
https://i.imgur.com/un9JOnh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Kuroageha]

Never take illustrations as a summary of a book.
Heck, even previews aren't to be trusted.

Anyway, Panji getting cockblocking again? It wouldn't be something new unless she misunderstood something which would be rare coming from her.
Need text now.


Anime when? We know it's happening.

[rik1998]

So I read here the spoilers till chapter 5, so in the end mc told them he will choose them all right? And they got angry. So what happened, they accepted? What happened in vol 6 and 7, can someone spoil me? I want to know which one mc chooses, what happened to the girls(specially panji), some rivals and dudes, if mc shows some love for panji or for any other girls and if she hasn't fallen for anyother dude, also what's your opinion about it, who do you think he will choose.

[Kadmos1]

At least someday fan translations of this be totally legal. The problem is that Berne Convention-member countries have a life+50 duration on most works. With the U.S. being life+70, we could expect our grand-children or great-grandchildren to be doing those fan translations.

[Knight-A]

At least someday fan translations of this be totally legal. The problem is that Berne Convention-member countries have a life+50 duration on most works. With the U.S. being life+70, we could expect our grand-children or great-grandchildren to be doing those fan translations.
not neccesary, you just need somebody from a non affiliated country to Ts that

[Snowbold]

I'm reading the manga since no one's translated the LN to English yet.

[Kuroageha]

Yeah
Translation already went past vol.1

[Snowbold]

Yeah
Translation already went past vol.1

Where? Is there a link?

[Kuroageha]

It's in Spanish tho.

[Snowbold]

It's in Spanish tho.

Oh are you talking about the manga?

[Kuroageha]

Yeah.
Recent novel volume hit a new non bitch girl character who IMO likes Sun but ironically he is dense about it.

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/Ai9Qp vol 8 illus

[Kuroageha]

This one are better. Thanks.

[Snowbold]

Did Sun go loli?

[WyrdMonger]

It looks like this volume focused on Sun rather than the main character.

[maton456full]

Volume 9 for July

[wuhugm]

Who won in the LN?

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/hWoD0YG vol 9 illus

[Kuroageha]

Mfw no raws of the text.

[Hujan]

reading the manga make me curious again, and I just read vol 2, and in the end, it can be said that the title just applied in vol 1, because in vol 2 there is a girl who love him at the same time with pansy!?

and Erotora said in his thread about non-main heroine that Pansy is win. it is true?! had they going out?! or ....

[MK-95-]

Ah animesuki, you never let me down. You guys are the real heroes. <3 I've been looking everywhere for spoilers for the LN, but I'm only getting it in Japanese...

Good thing I decided to check to see if there's a LN thread for it here. I picked up the manga earlier this week and I'm digging it enough to want to look for spoilers, so that's a good thing since it means my interest in the series is assured. It's also a huge plus that the MC isn't being all wishy-washy and straight up says that he wants a harem. lol That's the first I've seen of any romcom MC doing something like that.

@sparhawk1610 Thank you good sir for posting those illustrations. I was also having a hard time finding any illustrations past vol 2 when googling.

EDIT: Finally found all of the illustrations. Spending all that time looking for them was worth it. All 9 vols worth of illustrations were there. :)

[Kuroageha]

This series got anime adaptation as I expected however not this year.

[Kiyoe]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpJzXKuXcAM7R_R.jpg

[Kuroageha]

Buriki has been on track for a while, I guess he recovered from his illness.

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/05mrLvF vol 10 illus

[coded321]

so they completely destroy his school reputation and make him the pariah of the school, and he ends forgiving them just like that. sure they ended up working their asses off to restore his rep, or at least stopped him from being bullied, does karma never hit them back? seriously? furthermore, why the hell did the girls forgive sun so freaking easily? he's the one who actually used them and their feelings to fulfill a petty ass grudge. mc let them get off way too damn lightly for all the crap they put him through.

[Kuroageha]

Simple, no matter what they do they won't still get what they want now. Girls won't get Joro, and guys like Sun won't get Panji.

Watching the futility of their attempts is rewarding enough for me.

[coded321]

considering that they fell out of love for sun after everything was revealed, it doesn't seem like much of a punishment. again, for all the crap they put the mc through, their own punishments, whether emotional, physical, mental, or social, feel so light, so inadequate, so disproportionate in comparison. while the mc is not a saint, people like his so called friends would easily classify as pieces of sh*t for what they did, especially when all he genuinely wanted was to help and support them. in real life, relationships can permanently fall apart over far less. and all they had to do to be forgiven was apologize. if apologies were enough for matters like this, we would not need police in the world.

[Kuroageha]

Reread what I said.

[coded321]

i read and understand what you said, i still find it too light a punishment, since the girls lost their romantic feelings for sun when the truth was revealed, and sun himself realized and quickly accepted that panji would never return his feelings because she found joro to be the morally superior person. beside all that, they all came out of that ordeal unscathed except for joro who had received the most disproportionate outcome, physically, mentally, and socially. did any of those three feel any remorse, any regret down the line on how sh*tty they were and how horribly they treated joro? its like, once everyone made amends, instead of their characters developing, them identifying and fixing their flaws, they instead ignore what had happened and purposefully reset the status quo to zero rather than confronting their own flaws and issues. maybe there's a difference in how all this is portrayed in the LN compared to the manga(i read the manga), i don't know. all i believe is, friends shouldn't treat each other that way, and that relationships shouldn't be mended without confronting the underlying issues first.

[Kuroageha]

i read and understand what you said, i still find it too light a punishment, since the girls lost their romantic feelings for sun when the truth was revealed, and sun himself realized and quickly accepted that panji would never return his feelings ...
That's where you're wrong :heh:.
- Sun still wants Panji.
- The girls still try to win Joro.
They even side with Sun to help him get Panji which in turn would leave the path to Joro free.

[coded321]

Again, my statements are all based from what I've read from the manga, and the few spoilers that are on this thread. But do any of them actually feel any regret or remorse for what they did to joro in later volumes?

[Kiyoe]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3z8fvCWkAA2ExH.jpg
Release: May 10th.

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/NEyRKn3 vol 11 illust

[Kuroageha]

Another one bites the dust.

[Snowbold]

Anime adaptation coming in the Fall, sweet.

[dark44]

Is he losing harem or gain more?

[charlie2020]

Hi guys, new member here, but I have been up to date with the manga. Just my two cents: although the mc's best friend, female childhood friend, and president apologized, I am still left with a bad aftertaste and despise them very much for crushing the mc like that. Am I missing details where they redeem themselves, or is it just my fault that I'm too sensitive to the abuse he went through. Any thoughts on this matter? Appreciate your input :)

Again, my statements are all based from what I've read from the manga, and the few spoilers that are on this thread. But do any of them actually feel any regret or remorse for what they did to joro in later volumes?

Take this with a grain of salt, but I think in volume 7, the president does hug the mc, not necessarily out of romantic infatuation. But there were tears in her eyes, so it's possible that she apologized to him, and knowing how the mc is all heroic/forgiving/weak-willed depending on your perspective, mc forgave her. And I believe in the manga, the girls apologized while bowing to him (something which in my opinion seemed a little weak for a genuine apology given the BS he had to go through), while the guy (I believe his name was Sun) actually did a dogeza (to kneel down as an apology). I'm sorry that I don't have info regarding the later volumes, but I hope I at least answered your question regarding their feelings of remorse.

[Ruki0089]

Just finish read the manga, I find this story disgusting....

[n0m@n]

Just finish read the manga, I find this story disgusting....

The story or....you mean the characters:heh:?

[Ruki0089]

The characters.
Basically I completely agree with coded321.
For the story, I find it boring...

[charlie2020]

Apologize if this seems like a rant, but I still can't stand the fact that he would easily forgive those thots ("that hoe over there" for non-native English speakers) + Sun for throwing him under the bus. I mean, the closest protagonist I can see easily forgiving people is Luffy from one piece, who believes being bullied and betrayed is better than being alone (referencing when Ace and Sabo saved him during their childhood), albeit those who mistreated him had their own circumstances (traumatic past, blackmail, etc.) and ended up becoming invaluable comrades with him. On the other hand, those girls just used him for their own convenient purposes. Maybe the better analogy would be Batman from Dark Knight Trilogy. With that said, I'll painfully rationalize his reason for forgiveness.

While he was used and abused, those three were his closest high-school friends, and he probably valued his friendship with them so strongly that he forgave them for the bs they put him through. Also, some of us, including me, sh*t on him for being too nice/beta, but his niceness and subservience made him so "desirable" as a friend/lover/tool.

And it's probably in his nature to be a "bro for life"; him standing in the hot sun trying to cheer his best friend up ultimately made Panji fall for him, and his willingness to go on a limb to help Himewari and Cosmos after Sun revealed his plot made them plus other girls fall deeply in love with him once he wanted to be friends again, to the point where a spoiler even mentioned them trying to make Joro lose so that he will never talk to Panji again and open him up as a boyfriend for them.

And he was WAY MORE enraged when he confronted Sun about him toying with the girls' feelings than when he ridiculed the girls for using him. It could be argued that him being so considerate of the girls in spite of the misery he went through made them like him. But it also shows that he isn't necessarily as weak as we thought he was. He's the type that gets more mad when his friends are hurt than when he himself is.

Perhaps the author is satirizing the typical MC harem personality. Perhaps the author is demonstrating the dark side of desiring a harem. Or perhaps the purpose was to throw an extreme twist that is somewhat unprecedented for having an MC declaring his desire for a harem while having the character to take abuse. Or maybe he was portrayed this way as an alternative response to abuse.

Examples: Shield Hero reacts with desire for revenge. Hajime from Arifureta reacts with indifference unless threatened, provoked, or hindered. And it seems Joro decides a more peaceful approach. Or perhaps to cut those three off would be to surrender a harmonious relationships with three of the most influential individuals in the school.

Hopefully, what happens in the end is that he goes on a "forgive, but not forget" path as he rejects Himewari and Cosmos (he's probably picking Panji since 90% of LN covers had her in front). Personally, I wished he didn't forgive them until they begged for his help: a scenario where Sun and Himewari are about to fail their exams and must repeat a year or take summer classes, followed by the president for being unable to handle the excessive paperwork when Joro no longer provides student council a hand. This would have been more satisfying for me, but perhaps I'm too evil of a person for wishing for another person's misfortune.

I guess the only consolation is the fact that Panji is probably gonna win, but having him choose her immediately would just put an end to this so-called comedy; it's as if the author is kind of approaching a reverse-tsundere option, where the male protagonist is slowly falling in love with the female protagonist while many other notable ones have the roles reversed.

Now that I've got that frustration off my chest, hopefully I can just try to lightly enjoy whatever follows or just forget about this series and move on to slightly more wholesome series.

[Kuroageha]

The story title is "Are You Really the Only One Who Likes Me?"
Guess the hint.

[BWTraveller]

I'd say it's more satirizing the general VIEW of the harem protagonist, the stereotype which frankly doesn't happen near as often as people seem to think. The "typical harem protagonist" is like Joro's act at the start, supportive and loyal and friendly, never a bad thing to say. But that's not what most harem protagonists are, or at least not all of it. Generally speaking there's always something else that makes the girls fall for the guy, a demonstration of passion or conviction, dedication to something deep enough to make them exhibit much stronger emotions or give of themselves. And sure enough, indeed I'd say that's what made the girls fall for him: the fact that even after all they'd done to him he'd still been willing to become furious and challenge someone he couldn't beat on account of their feelings and his personal convictions on what lines can't be crossed.

I don't really have a problem with him forgiving them, as every last one of them had been bastards at times, and each of them had exhibited some indication that they did truly care deep down. As he said, the situations just happened to bring out their worst sides without giving them a good opportunity to show their better sides. If there's one thing I don't like, it's how quickly the girls seem to switch to acting like worthy romantic candidates, jumping into his arms and talking about dancing together for a charm or attacking him when he has something bad to say. They've been forgiven, but that doesn't mean they should feel like they deserve a chance at being his girlfriend. At this point that's something he should give, not something they should actively pursue with any kind of expectation.

[Kuroageha]

The idea I get from this is that Panji is first come first served after seeing Joro's real self back in the past.
However, the other bunch saw that AFTER they caused his fall and then Panji had to clear his name because she believed in him while they didn't. That would burn bridges but they also took that Joro is quite forgiving and not as resentful as he should be so they end taking that as an opening to get into his romantic life, at the first volumes they had a feel MC has only eyes for Panji, but as the series goes on they confirm this and start acting more and more rashl to take her out of the race.
That aside now that they DO like him I think Joro has realised this already, he's not being dense, he just gave up on things like harem and plays the role of the dense MC to them to keep the status quo until they graduate. But fact is, he is just tsundere for Panji and she knows it :heh:.

[charlie2020]

I'd say it's more satirizing the general VIEW of the harem protagonist, the stereotype which frankly doesn't happen near as often as people seem to think. The "typical harem protagonist" is like Joro's act at the start, supportive and loyal and friendly, never a bad thing to say. But that's not what most harem protagonists are, or at least not all of it. Generally speaking there's always something else that makes the girls fall for the guy, a demonstration of passion or conviction, dedication to something deep enough to make them exhibit much stronger emotions or give of themselves. And sure enough, indeed I'd say that's what made the girls fall for him: the fact that even after all they'd done to him he'd still been willing to become furious and challenge someone he couldn't beat on account of their feelings and his personal convictions on what lines can't be crossed.

I don't really have a problem with him forgiving them, as every last one of them had been bastards at times, and each of them had exhibited some indication that they did truly care deep down. As he said, the situations just happened to bring out their worst sides without giving them a good opportunity to show their better sides. If there's one thing I don't like, it's how quickly the girls seem to switch to acting like worthy romantic candidates, jumping into his arms and talking about dancing together for a charm or attacking him when he has something bad to say. They've been forgiven, but that doesn't mean they should feel like they deserve a chance at being his girlfriend. At this point that's something he should give, not something they should actively pursue with any kind of expectation.


Valid points. So at the very least from the manga, they're certainly remorseful about their actions and doing their best to not make Jiro suffer again. But I'm still kind of pissed off though about the girls. Sun not as much, since he's probably gonna pursue another girl/kouhai from vol 8.

This may sound pretty dark and cruel, but I wished what happened was that after the apology and confession, Jiro doesn't reconcile. Instead, Sunflower girl and Sun-chan are f*cked from being on the verge of failing their tests, while Cosmos gets in trouble in student council for many consecutive errors from not having Jiro around to help or even gets in trouble from fraud/embezzlement. Then, the three go down on their knees and beg for forgiveness and help. Jiro says f*ck off, but Panji reminds him that they are not inherently bad people, so Jiro softens up, and then we go back to their current relationship with each other.

And apparently all is fair in love and war; hence, forgiveness from Jiro implies open chance to pursue him as a partner for his extreme kindness and willingness to stand up for others knowing the fact that he will suffer.

Then again, one consolation is that Himewari and Cosmos will probably have their hearts broken from Jiro choosing best girl, aka Panji (can't see Panji not winning from being in the cover for almost all the novels).

The idea I get from this is that Panji is first come first served after seeing Joro's real self back in the past.
However, the other bunch saw that AFTER they caused his fall and then Panji had to clear his name because she believed in him while they didn't. That would burn bridges but they also took that Joro is quite forgiving and not as resentful as he should be so they end taking that as an opening to get into his romantic life, at the first volumes they had a feel MC has only eyes for Panji, but as the series goes on they confirm this and start acting more and more rashl to take her out of the race.
That aside now that they DO like him I think Joro has realised this already, he's not being dense, he just gave up on things like harem and plays the role of the dense MC to them to keep the status quo until they graduate. But fact is, he is just tsundere for Panji and she knows it :heh:.

Also valid points. I'm surprised he didn't get mad at the girls for doing something underhanded to take Panji out. Idk why he won't just choose Panji already, but then again, that would mean the story is over. If this story served to make harem fans like harems less, the author sure as hell did a great job doing so.

[Kuroageha]

Everyone is selfish, even MC despite being the less selfish among them he looks nice in comparison.

Btw
Next volume cover
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEFZjCqWsAAnSdE?format=jpg&name=small
Will they finally have some wholesome time together without those pebbles on the path getting in the way?
Let's find out next month(October 10th)~

[charlie2020]

Everyone is selfish, even MC despite being the less selfish among them he looks nice in comparison.

Btw
Next volume cover
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEFZjCqWsAAnSdE?format=jpg&name=small
Will they finally have some wholesome time together without those pebbles on the path getting in the way?
Let's find out next month(October 10th)~

Ah, best girl indeed. Dang, you seem to be taking his struggle very well. Is that because you know they won't get what they want anyway? I personally would have wished if they suffered a bit and then turned to him for help rather than have him ask to be friends again. I guess I'm still mad that a simple bow was all it took after the sh*t he went through, albeit Sun did do a dogeza.

[Kuroageha]

I look at it this way: no matter what they do, only a miracle, time travel, mind control or something like that can stop Pansy. They'll try and fail to the end.
In a way that's also a punishment.

[charlie2020]

I look at it this way: no matter what they do, only a miracle, time travel, mind control or something like that can stop Pansy. They'll try and fail to the end.
In a way that's also a punishment.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you make it sound as if Joro and Panji can just take the high road while the others can use whatever cheap tactics and fall however low they want because both of them will get the last laugh.

[dark44]

Only the two girls in frist novel are bad and i dont like them but other ones are great and i hope for harem end with joro

[charlie2020]

Only the two girls in frist novel are bad and i dont like them but other ones are great and i hope for harem end with joro

The ponytail one wrote libelous statements and further tarnished his reputation because she wanted to isolate him so that he will only like her :mad:

[Kuroageha]

And later they conspire together against Pansy to make her get taken away by a stalker.

[Ruki0089]

And they are still forgiven??? Man, what kind of friend they are?
They are truly disgusting...

[charlie2020]

And they are still forgiven??? Man, what kind of friend they are?
They are truly disgusting...

Which is why I was ranting at first and later had to ask others, such as Kuroageha who was more forgiving of those characters, their perspectives. Still having a hard time accepting it, but I guess one could make the argument that him not resorting to retaliation is a form of moral superiority and strength over the pieces of trash.

[Shinji103]

Which is why I was ranting at first and later had to ask others, such as Kuroageha who was more forgiving of those characters, their perspectives. Still having a hard time accepting it, but I guess one could make the argument that him not resorting to retaliation is a form of moral superiority and strength over the pieces of trash.This. It’s easy and weak to lash out, but it takes real strength to hold oneself back from giving into the easy emotions. And it’s not just a storytelling thing, it’s true in real life thing too.

[charlie2020]

This. It’s easy and weak to lash out, but it takes real strength to hold oneself back from giving into the easy emotions. And it’s not just a storytelling thing, it’s true in real life thing too.

Sorry for late reply, but yeah, while I do agree with how holding oneself back is a form of strength, too bad he's either too stubborn/stupid to learn from his lesson, especially when back then he said about the two girls that he "wants nothing to do with them", yet still desires to be friends again.

[bakato]

Alright. With the anime upon us, I've finally decided to get into this. I've seen spoilers, but I am still utterly lost. Can someone explain this to poor noob? I get that the two girls love Sun who loves Pansy who loves MC. I know that Sun is playing MC to get into Pansy's pants through the two girls, but what I can't understand is why the two would help Sun get it on with another girl.

[Kuroageha]

Alright. With the anime upon us, I've finally decided to get into this. I've seen spoilers, but I am still utterly lost. Can someone explain this to poor noob? I get that the two girls love Sun who loves Pansy who loves MC. I know that Sun is playing MC to get into Pansy's pants through the two girls, but what I can't understand is why the two would help Sun get it on with another girl.
Because they know now Sun doesn't want them but Pansy and now they see a rebound on MC, however MC is slowly falling for Pansy and Pansy only has eyes for MC so might as well take her out of the way.

[Kadmos1]

Basic questions: who is the lead female? Which girl is basically the one true ship for our hero?

[charlie2020]

Because they know now Sun doesn't want them but Pansy and now they see a rebound on MC, however MC is slowly falling for Pansy and Pansy only has eyes for MC so might as well take her out of the way.

I only read the manga so far along with the spoilers here, but idk if Sun still feels anything for Panji, given the fact that in volume 8, he’s pretty much following another girl, who is either a kouhai or manager.

Basic questions: who is the lead female? Which girl is basically the one true ship for our hero?

Well, it’s pretty much Panji, since she’s the only one introduced to his mom and is on every cover except for one, whereas the other girls only show up on AT MOST one cover

[bakato]

Because they know now Sun doesn't want them but Pansy and now they see a rebound on MC, however MC is slowly falling for Pansy and Pansy only has eyes for MC so might as well take her out of the way.

I just slogged my way through the first volume equivalent of the manga and I realized the misunderstood. I thought the two girls were accomplices in Sun’s scheme, but they weren’t.

[Doggogaron]

I gotta say, this series gave me an extremely dissatisfied feeling after reading every chapter of the manga and reading the summaries of every light novel volumes. It left me a very disturbing empty void that could only be filled if every thing didn't went to sht after the first volume.

[bakato]

I gotta say, this series gave me an extremely dissatisfied feeling after reading every chapter of the manga and reading the summaries of every light novel volumes. It left me a very disturbing empty void that could only be filled if every thing didn't went to sht after the first volume.

There are summaries?

[Doggogaron]

There are summaries?

If you go to the last few pages, some dude posted a google search keyword that will lead to a Japanese blogger that summarizes each volume of the series with his/her impression of every volume.

[Kibo]

If you go to the last few pages, some dude posted a google search keyword that will lead to a Japanese blogger that summarizes each volume of the series with his/her impression of every volume.

I can't find this "google search keyword" Is it possible to just say it here?

[Doggogaron]

I can't find this "google search keyword" Is it possible to just say it here?

Here you go: ameblo kamakura 俺を好きなのはお前だけか

[charlie2020]

I gotta say, this series gave me an extremely dissatisfied feeling after reading every chapter of the manga and reading the summaries of every light novel volumes. It left me a very disturbing empty void that could only be filled if every thing didn't went to sht after the first volume.

Idk if this is any consolation, but at least you know how it will end. 99.9% chance Joro (MC) ends with Panji, unless the author pulls a fast one.

[tuckersister]

Does Joro still have an irritation of seeing benches? Also where is the story currently now?

[charlie2020]

The story title is "Are You Really the Only One Who Likes Me?"
Guess the hint.

Oh yeah, sorry for the late question, but what did you mean by guessing the hint from title? Was that a sarcastic comment highlighting some irony, given the fact that those other thots fall for him too?

Does Joro still have an irritation of seeing benches? Also where is the story currently now?

If you're talking about the sitting "bench", then no, that was just a one time thing. But if you meant b*tches, then no: he by some goddamn miracle, never mind forgiving them, decided to apologize for being a jerk and asked to be friends again

Basically, new girls pop up, so it's mostly filler stuff, and now they all want him to choose one by the end of winter school term. Given the fact that Panji has appeared in all except 1 volume cover, she's probably gonna be chosen by MC who is apparently tsundere about him as another user earlier implied, but if the author decides to pull a fast one and either pick a different girl or end without a chosen one...

Just my 2 cents: this is one novel that I'd rather not have a harem ending, especially since the others' actions were reprehensible and disgusting.

[Nyaa-kun]

Alright, finally caught up with the latest chapter of the manga and all I gotta say is YIKES! After all the shit that they had thrown at him, he still wants them back in his life.

[Ereshchan]

anyone know why pansy uses cover instead using her real appearance?
is there any tragedy from her past that occured?

[Kadmos1]

Does Pansy have the biggest chest among the main girls?

[Kibo]

anyone know why pansy uses cover instead using her real appearance?
is there any tragedy from her past that occured?

I believe I read somewhere that it's because of some stalker (a guy who has the face of a romance comedy protagonist) who likes her and has been following/searching her for quite some time. She has her plain look as a disguise. The stalker and Joro "kinda" fight over her.

I don't suppose anyone knows anything about volume 12? I heard it came out, and like to least know any summaries or see some pictures.

the closest I found was at some blog livedoor jp website.

http://cloud.akibablog.net/2019/oct/11/orewo-sukinanoha12/112.jpg

I found this and that's it (looks like Joro facing a bunch of the girls).

[sparhawk1610]

I believe I read somewhere that it's because of some stalker (a guy who has the face of a romance comedy protagonist) who likes her and has been following/searching her for quite some time. She has her plain look as a disguise. The stalker and Joro "kinda" fight over her.

I don't suppose anyone knows anything about volume 12? I heard it came out, and like to least know any summaries or see some pictures.

the closest I found was at some blog livedoor jp website.

http://cloud.akibablog.net/2019/oct/11/orewo-sukinanoha12/112.jpg

I found this and that's it (looks like Joro facing a bunch of the girls).


The scene is pretty much about girls declaring that they want spend a day with Joro to express their feelings so he will have to decide who to date. About that guy that looks like MC, I will not call it really a fighting cuz we knows to who belongs her heart.... And if author let lose her, he is a madman.

and about vol 12 illust https://imgur.com/a/KTP2X5O

[wuhugm]

Who's Lilac?

[Kibo]

The scene is pretty much about girls declaring that they want spend a day with Joro to express their feelings so he will have to decide who to date. About that guy that looks like MC, I will not call it really a fighting cuz we knows to who belongs her heart.... And if author let lose her, he is a madman.

In regards to the fighting over Pansy: That answer is why I said "kinda" and used "".

[Anemya]

when will vol 13 be released?

[charlie2020]

when will vol 13 be released?

Probably some time next year, most likely august--give or take a few months--based on the author's pace so far. Also, if I may ask, who is the couple exactly for your photo with a black haired guy and a blonde girl? Is that saber from Fate/Zero?

Who's Lilac?

I'm not sure where you got that name from in this series, but if it's from the image with him talking to the four girls, that's either the 4th black haired girl who's basically a tsundere or the new white haired girl that just popped up from the illustrations in vol 12.

[tuckersister]

Will we meet other members of Joro's family other than his mother?

[Anemya]

Probably some time next year, most likely august--give or take a few months--based on the author's pace so far. Also, if I may ask, who is the couple exactly for your photo with a black haired guy and a blonde girl? Is that saber from Fate/Zero?

Nope, it's from tsukurareshi inochi no kirei sekai iirc

[sparhawk1610]

https://imgur.com/a/9DBlqHL vol 13

[Anemya]

so what happened? why did the sister seem to lash out on something?

[Kuroageha]

Cosmos ship is dead. Now who is next? Himawari?
Will Tsubaki take over her?

[Ruki0089]

Cosmos, ahh. The shitty senpai.
Yeah, finally!!

[charlie2020]

Cosmos, ahh. The shitty senpai.
Yeah, finally!!

If she never betrayed him from the very beginning, I would have felt more sorry and sad for her. And normally, I actually really like watching a female senpai dating a younger kouhai. But given her ugly side, yeah, she's dead to me too. She may be pretty good looking, I'll admit, but I'm pretty sure whatever her strengths are (good looks, good grades, good cook), Panji can do too and more. Plus, since she was already a third year, she probably didn't have much of a chance anyway.

Nope, it's from tsukurareshi inochi no kirei sekai iirc

Interesting. Your pic doesn't seem to match the one from the front page on novel updates, but thanks!

so what happened? why did the sister seem to lash out on something?

The one with earrings clenching her left fist? Probably some misunderstanding, or for causing some confusion, or for breaking a maiden's heart, even though that maiden has still not given up, whether Joro's chosen someone or not.

Cosmos ship is dead. Now who is next? Himawari?
Will Tsubaki take over her?

Yeah, who knows, maybe a double knock out, where one gets rejected midway into the volume while another gets rejected at the end of next volume. Question is now what's next? Do they go back to being friends? Or will they become strangers the next time they meet? Or does Cosmos go to a farther school/high-level university to pursue whatever her original goals were? Or perhaps she just cuts her hair

[Kuroageha]

Yeah, who knows, maybe a double knock out, where one gets rejected midway into the volume while another gets rejected at the end of next volume. Question is now what's next? Do they go back to being friends? Or will they become strangers the next time they meet? Or does Cosmos go to a farther school/high-level university to pursue whatever her original goals were? Or perhaps she just cuts her hair

Traitors hit list:
Cosmos X
Himawari
Asunaro
Sasanka

Not traitors but still awful people
Tsukimi
Cherry
Tanpopo

[Ruki0089]

Tanpopo?:heh:
Nevert thought would see that name in another series. I only know one Tanpopo.
So, how's the shitty senpai after her ship sunk?

[wuhugm]

What is this farce?
As if anyone except Panji can win

[Hujan]

But this is still a good farce comparing to the other farce.
the other farce problem is usually in the Main Heroine who is for whatever reason (being tsundere, didn't confess her love, or something) that make story got so long without the relationship progessing, while in this farce, the problem is in the MC that prolong the story.

[charlie2020]

Traitors hit list:
Cosmos X
Himawari
Asunaro
Sasanka

Not traitors but still awful people
Tsukimi
Cherry
Tanpopo

You forgot the biggest traitor lol: that dumbass Sun-chan.
I thought Sasanka already got shot down in volume 11, no? Or were those tears of her not a confession? Or maybe she still isn't giving up. Oh yeah, now that you brought up that list, I think your order is right: Himawari will probably be eliminated next, since Cosmos was the first to "confess", and now she's the first to be rejected.

But this is still a good farce comparing to the other farce.
the other farce problem is usually in the Main Heroine who is for whatever reason (being tsundere, didn't confess her love, or something) that make story got so long without the relationship progessing, while in this farce, the problem is in the MC that prolong the story.

Well, from the author's perspective, if it makes cents, it makes sense. Also, I can't blame the MC entirely, since he values friendship and the status quo, but maintaining that relationship doesn't seem like an option anymore when the girls are pressing him to pick one. Perhaps rejection is karma for using the MCs as a tool...

[SirCopert]

Cosmos lost? To me it does not seem that she has actually "lost"

[Ruki0089]

Kinda wish author do dark twist...
After being rejected by Joro. Cosmos was gang raped by some thugs or other dark twist. Then, in hospital, she remembered what she did to him. And his forgiveness made her regret. So regret and karma come at same time truly finest retribution.
Too bad Author won't do it something like this.

[charlie2020]

Kinda wish author do dark twist...
After being rejected by Joro. Cosmos was gang raped by some thugs or other dark twist. Then, in hospital, she remembered what she did to him. And his forgiveness made her regret. So regret and karma come at same time truly finest retribution.
Too bad Author won't do it something like this.

Oh yeah, lol, wasn’t Joro bullied in school for a while? Idk if cosmos spread the rumor or instigated the bullies to harass him, but she certainly turned a blind eye to his suffering and only requested they stop when the truth was revealed. I was thinking more along the lines of having her getting caught in some academic scandal or cheating on exams or embezzling funds as president or abusing authority, but yeah, suffering is suffering I guess. Hella dark from you, but like they say, an eye for an eye...

How will the other traitors get retribution to you?

I probably sound like an asshole, don’t I?

Cosmos lost? To me it does not seem that she has actually "lost"

His deadline for choosing a girl was around winter, I think, and he was just kissed in an image, and what followed was him sighing while looking up, so he most likely rejected her and sighed because of how things ended up. Lost in the sense that her “heart” did not reach Joro

[Ruki0089]

Oh yeah, lol, wasn’t Joro bullied in school for a while? Idk if cosmos spread the rumor or instigated the bullies to harass him, but she certainly turned a blind eye to his suffering and only requested they stop when the truth was revealed. I was thinking more along the lines of having her getting caught in some academic scandal or cheating on exams or embezzling funds as president or abusing authority, but yeah, suffering is suffering I guess. Hella dark from you, but like they say, an eye for an eye...

How will the other traitors get retribution to you?

I probably sound like an asshole, don’t I?


Well, beside Cosmos. I got his best friend's retribution...
Maybe he will got hit and run or something and then he lost his arms as exchange. He love baseball. So, losing arms like killing him.
For Himawari... Hmmmm

[Kuroageha]

Cosmos lost? To me it does not seem that she has actually "lost"
There's nothing worse than a rejection than a non rejection called 'but you're a friend to me' ;)

[charlie2020]

There's nothing worse than a rejection than a non rejection called 'but you're a friend to me' ;)

cheating/ntr, betrayal, or friend-zone. Pick your poison lol

[BWTraveller]

I'm really behind, so can someone spell out how the girls betrayed him? I can't find translations of the early parts of the LN, and as such haven't really read it and the anime's already passed the manga by some time ago. PM is fine if you don't want to clutter the thread.

[charlie2020]

I'm really behind, so can someone spell out how the girls betrayed him? I can't find translations of the early parts of the LN, and as such haven't really read it and the anime's already passed the manga by some time ago. PM is fine if you don't want to clutter the thread.

Way beginning, cosmos and sunflower get tricked by Sun and start blaming him even though he’s been trying to pair them with him. Gets bullied as a result. Then the pony tail writes libelous statements to further damage his reputation. Then during the festival, the three girls who apparently promised to support him for popularity turn against him because they confess each one wants to be his girlfriend and don’t want Panji to win.

[BWTraveller]

That's it? Just the stuff that's already appeared in the anime? Frankly nothing I've seen so far is really so harsh I'd mark them off the list. Everyone's used and been bad to everyone else at some point, just like everyone's shown some real good as well. I'm going to need more than that before I'd be willing to hate them the way many seem to.

[charlie2020]

That's it? Just the stuff that's already appeared in the anime? Frankly nothing I've seen so far is really so harsh I'd mark them off the list. Everyone's used and been bad to everyone else at some point, just like everyone's shown some real good as well. I'm going to need more than that before I'd be willing to hate them the way many seem to.

Using someone for self-interest is one thing; abandoning someone and turning against that person is another, which is my main frustration.

The anime made it much lighter and comedic, but as someone who first read the manga, I found their actions far more horrendous. Plus, there is no good for those girls, not when they've promised to never betray him again, only to go against him once again in the contest. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the only reason Cosmos and Sunflower even put in the effort to clear his name the next day was because of Panji. Maybe you're a bit more forgiving than some, but someone who chooses to throw someone under the bus because something doesn't go his or her way has no right to be forgiven, even more so for abandoning a friend just for personal gain after being given another chance. While Joro may seem sneaky and dirty, when push comes to shove, he will take the high road. Can't say the same for anyone else besides Panji.

I get it: revenge solves nothing, and two wrongs do not make a right. But maybe having those girls suffer will make them grow more as people/characters, because from their actions, I only see lack of change, lack of learning, and lack of growth.

So yeah, if Cosmos actually got rejected in vol 13, then I think that may be the best thing that should happen to her, especially as she finishes her last year in high school and begins a new one in college. It'll be the price she pays for manipulating a person and being selfish.

Honestly, the story was supposed to be over the moment Panji revealed her true self; Joro just won't admit his love for her and prefers to maintain the status quo and keep his "friends", despite the revelation of their darkest sides. But now that some of his "friends" want more than just a friendship and have possibly forced him to choose, he's doing something he probably prefer not to do from the last image in vol 13: turning them down, even if they can't go back to being friends anymore.

One of the few things keeping me up to date on the story and not just jump to the final novel ending is Panji 4D-chessing her way out of the mess and into Joro's heart.

[Ruki0089]

Yeah, they manipulate him, use him, caused him to be bullied and destroy his reputation. Their action truly disgusting.
Anime tune and made very light of it... So, you only saw glimpse of it.

[BWTraveller]

I read the manga too, well before the anime came out. Frankly, while yeah they were horrible at the time I was able to see contrition. Question though, could you elaborate just how they "betrayed" him during the festival? I don't remember any serious "betrayal" in that arc. Worst I remember is them refusing to leave him alone, something which even Pansy did.

[Anemya]

well, I like sazanka. can anyone give me her development summary or something liket that?

[charlie2020]

I read the manga too, well before the anime came out. Frankly, while yeah they were horrible at the time I was able to see contrition. Question though, could you elaborate just how they "betrayed" him during the festival? I don't remember any serious "betrayal" in that arc. Worst I remember is them refusing to leave him alone, something which even Pansy did.

I understand your view. It seems our main difference is that you're forgiving them because they feel "guilty" and said "sorry" for using Joro, whereas I don't because of the immediate backlash and torment he faced when Sun basically committed a battery on Joro and the fact that they still turn against them and not help a friend out. By betray, idk if the anime showed this yet, but basically those girls promised to help him for the popularity vote, but they chose to help the other guy because they wanted Joro to stay away from panji for good so that those three could get a chance to be his girlfriend. And I found this to be hypocritical considering how Joro helped Sunflower and Cosmos in becoming a ideal girlfriend for Sun, but they couldn't even help him out as a "childhood friend" and "beloved/respected senpai", which they basically bashed Joro for in chapter 9/10 of the manga.

You might not consider that as "betrayal", but remember that during the dance arc, they promised to always be there for Joro and to not ever betray him, yet when Joro needed their help to win the contest, they decide to help the enemy instead.

well, I like sazanka. can anyone give me her development summary or something liket that?

Idk, the manga didn't do a good job, but basically it seems she fell in love with the nice guy because she may have hurt him in the past, and because he was very forgiving, she changed from her gyaru looks to a more pure looking girl to attract his attention.

[BWTraveller]

Just what is this "popularity vote" you're talking about? What contest? I've only seen up to the anime, but I'm talking in here because I don't mind spoilers at all. I thought you were talking about the dance.

And yeah depending on just how they went against him I could see that as bad. But it depends, particularly on account of the fact that Joro and Pansy both discussed thoroughly how they thought it wrong to lie to yourself and sit there supporting your beloved's pursuit of happiness rather than at least making some pursuit yourself. There are definitely lines that shouldn't be crossed, some of which can possibly be forgiven, some of which cannot. I just want to know what lines they have crossed.

[charlie2020]

Just what is this "popularity vote" you're talking about? What contest? I've only seen up to the anime, but I'm talking in here because I don't mind spoilers at all. I thought you were talking about the dance.

And yeah depending on just how they went against him I could see that as bad. But it depends, particularly on account of the fact that Joro and Pansy both discussed thoroughly how they thought it wrong to lie to yourself and sit there supporting your beloved's pursuit of happiness rather than at least making some pursuit yourself. There are definitely lines that shouldn't be crossed, some of which can possibly be forgiven, some of which cannot. I just want to know what lines they have crossed.

Basically, whoever loses the popularity contest cannot be near Panji. In case I wasn't clear, this contest was a challenge from Joro so that the other guy (Hose) stays away from Panji. Anyway, those three promised to be on his side, and when the votes got close, he needed just their votes to finish the other guy off. But those pieces of trash voted for the other guy and confessed that they want to be his girlfriend by making sure joro can never be near Panji again. The line they crossed was breaking his trust because of love, and if you think that’s okay, then their actions are essentially no different than them using Joro or isolating him so that they can have him. In other words, they acted the same way that they felt contrition for the first time. They claim to be friends, yet their actions say otherwise.

[Anemya]

You might not consider that as "betrayal", but remember that during the dance arc, they promised to always be there for Joro and to not ever betray him, yet when Joro needed their help to win the contest, they decide to help the enemy instead.



Idk, the manga didn't do a good job, but basically it seems she fell in love with the nice guy because she may have hurt him in the past, and because he was very forgiving, she changed from her gyaru looks to a more pure looking girl to attract his attention.

well, can I have more detail?

[Kuroageha]

Basically, whoever loses the popularity contest cannot be near Panji. In case I wasn't clear, this contest was a challenge from Joro so that the other guy (Hose) stays away from Panji. Anyway, those three promised to be on his side, and when the votes got close, he needed just their votes to finish the other guy off. But those pieces of trash voted for the other guy and confessed that they want to be his girlfriend by making sure joro can never be near Panji again. The line they crossed was breaking his trust because of love, and if you think that’s okay, then their actions are essentially no different than them using Joro or isolating him so that they can have him. In other words, they acted the same way that they felt contrition for the first time. They claim to be friends, yet their actions say otherwise.
And Sun redeemed himself that day by being a bro.

[BWTraveller]

If I understand all that right, I wouldn't say they did the same thing they did at the beginning. At the start they used him without any concern for his feelings, taking advantage of his good nature (both real and fake) to get where they wanted to go and then discarding him like trash the moment anything bad happened, all the while demanding he continue to serve because of their "precious relationships". In this case, they're taking a questionable action (I'd have to see it through as well as the aftermath before making judgment) to get closer to him by isolating him from rivals. I'd say it's a lot closer to what Asunaro did than their initial actions.

And as I said, part of the problem leading to my uncertainty lies in Joro and Pansy's own stance on things, about how bad it is that all those girls were deliberately sacrificing themselves for their crush rather than actually saying what's in their hearts, as well as how Hose didn't even notice and just kept moving forward with those girls dragged along aiding him in achieving his dreams to their own detriment, never noticing their pain as he keeps them near and even seeks help from them. Given that, how is Joro different? As I understood, those girls voting for him would mean their love remaining right next to the girl most likely to win him. Joro remains relatively oblivious to their newfound crushes and is seeking to have them sacrifice their own hearts for his sake. If Hose had been a stalker as I heard in the past, obviously it'd be different, but as is there's too much similarity for me to feel all that certain one way or another.

[Kuroageha]

Will skip most things and will go straight to the point

Pansy really hates Hose, he is an insensitive person, he annoyed the hell out of her on her former school when she just wanted to enjoy her hobby of reading books, what she dislikes the most is how dense he is about other people's feelings like Tsukimi and Cherry who are willing to throw away their happiness in order to support Hose's confession to Pansy, having Hose orbiting around her and having people harrassing her for being too beautifual Pansy changed her looks to the current one we know of and isolated herself from everyone and yet Hose still didn't get what was going on.

But thanks to Hose the library was saved so she has to tolerate him.

- during the baseball match Joro pulls out his best keikaku so him and Sasanko play along but
- Sasanka betrays him by supporting Hose, this way she can take Pansy out of the way
- Sun and Himawari come to the rescue allowing him to escape
- He meets with Hose and the rules are changed from 'the loser stays away from Pansy' to 'if Hose wins Pansy's friends will stay away' and Joro takes it seriously
- Cosmos,Himawari,Asunaro and Sasanka join and meet with Cherry and Tsukimi to support Hose's win
- Hose gets more than half of the votes but Joro starts closing in with the votes he got from people he helped before
- Hose saw this coming and brings the votes from his prep making it 98
- Hose takes this as his victory and confesses to Pansy again
- Joro also saw this coming and brings the votes Sun won from females students and makes 98 votes in total
- The last vote comes from Pansy who obviously votes for Joro, he wins
- Hose in a last attempt to persuade Pansy and confesses again but she tells him how much he hates him in front of everyone (get rekt fag)
- Joro celebrates his victory by announcing he will make his harem!! (girls slap him)
- Joro keeps celebrating but now with his bro Sun (now redeemed more than ever), they go out to eat skewers together (no homo tho), both are happy Sun's team is going to Koushien-


Joro claiming to want an harem is a to forcefully keep the status quo and save his friendship with everone, think about it, he just challenged a guy who confessed 3 TIMES to Pansy and you'll tell Joro isn't doing this because he has no feelings for Pansy?
Well, that's what everyone who participated on this is perceiving and Joro knows it so he had to do it (we all know who his heart belongs to anyway).

[BWTraveller]

If I understand that right there's perhaps one point that makes it sway a bit to the bad:
Stating that Hose winning the popularity contest would mean Pansy's friends have to stay away from her. If this is literally what is said, as in all the girls that'd made friends with Pansy will have to abandon their friendships, not just Joro, then it most certainly makes things worse. If it was just Joro who had to stay away, then I could see this as them refusing to sacrifice their own feelings for his plans. If it was all Pansy's friends having to stay away, that means actually abandoning a friend completely for their own position, which is much harder to justify. Frankly, if this is the case, the girls should've slapped or rebuked Hose the moment they found out he proposed such a cruel rule. Even so I'd probably withhold my judgment until I've actually made it through that point and anything that followed, but it's definitely points against them.

EDIT: OK, what has been changed/cut in the anime? Because seriously the anime situation does not have any of the stuff that would sway me to consider them anything but girls who're willing to actually fight for their love.

[charlie2020]

If I understand that right there's perhaps one point that makes it sway a bit to the bad:
Stating that Hose winning the popularity contest would mean Pansy's friends have to stay away from her. If this is literally what is said, as in all the girls that'd made friends with Pansy will have to abandon their friendships, not just Joro, then it most certainly makes things worse. If it was just Joro who had to stay away, then I could see this as them refusing to sacrifice their own feelings for his plans. If it was all Pansy's friends having to stay away, that means actually abandoning a friend completely for their own position, which is much harder to justify. Frankly, if this is the case, the girls should've slapped or rebuked Hose the moment they found out he proposed such a cruel rule. Even so I'd probably withhold my judgment until I've actually made it through that point and anything that followed, but it's definitely points against them.

EDIT: OK, what has been changed/cut in the anime? Because seriously the anime situation does not have any of the stuff that would sway me to consider them anything but girls who're willing to actually fight for their love.

I think maybe the ordering of the vote betrayal happened when it was getting close, not when the contest just started; also, I believe he requested the three's help until they turned against him; hopefully, someone else can double check for me on that and either confirm or correct me.
I think the general gist is right, but again, manga/light novel just has a significantly less rosy and cheerful tone and vibe than the anime. And I can't blame the anime studio since it can't fit everything into 20 minutes without making the comedy dark or tragic. As much as you might hate me for continuing to address their flaws--which I apologize for annoying you and maybe others, I do have to address your last statement about fighting for their love.

Remember how Cosmos reprimanded Asuka (ponytail newspaper girl) by saying that her actions were wrong and that selfishly fighting for love does not bring true happiness (manga chapter 23 or 24), especially when others can get hurt in the process, (specifically the mess with Joro)? Well, isn't Cosmos being hella hypocritical, while Asuka is clearly showing she didn't take that lecture to heart?

[Kuroageha]

That's because Cosmos never believed her own words to begin with. She did it for show in front of Joro(to make herself look good) otherwise she would have lectured Asunaro in private, she didn't. And anime is making it light tone than dark, that much is obvious.

[BWTraveller]

That's because Cosmos never believed her own words to begin with. She did it for show in front of Joro(to make herself look good) otherwise she would have lectured Asunaro in private, she didn't. And anime is making it light tone than dark, that much is obvious.

I agree that the anime is lightening it. I've only read the manga, but one look at the way Joro was bullied in there versus the anime makes it quite blatant that they're going for a lighter approach.

As for Kuroageha's comment on Asunaro, unless they changed in from manga/LN into anime, Cosmos intended to talk in private. She only said all those things in front of Joro because Asunaro refused to let Cosmos dismiss him first.

[Rimbo99]

Honestly, I don't get why Joro deserves sympathy or at least doesn't deserve so much sympathy. He clearly at the start tries to seduce Himawari and Cosmos without considering how they feel. The only reason we feel bad for him is because he gets the short end of the stick. If it were Himwari and Cosmos that gets it, I'm sure Joro would treat them poorly as well.

After that, Cosmos admits she has a lot to answer for and I think that part can be true. That's why she and Himawari more or less willing to be Joro's sex slaves if that meant he's happy and if that ever happens.

So why did these two and Asunaro want Hose to win? Even if they didn't spell it out, they obviously do blame Pansy for causing Sun's raging insanity and causing Joro's hell hole even if she help them see what Sun and Joro are really like. Not to mention, they don't want to lose Joro much like Joro doesn't want to lose them.

[BWTraveller]

But he does consider their feelings. When they ask him to help them he agrees immediately and only later as an afterthought thinks "I can still get the loser on the rebound". When people laugh about their pain or try to use their feelings he gets furious. Sure, he's a bastard, but he cares about those around him and ultimately has a tendency to put those important to him above himself.

Also, I'm pretty sure NONE of the girls would be OK with being his "sex slaves". All of them make it clear that they want to be his girlfriend. As I understand from the thread, when he later suggests that he'd be interested in a harem they all slap him. They want to be in a romantic relationship, not to be abused and used.

Also, is there anything in the LN to suggest what you say about the girls resenting or blaming Pansy for these things, or is it just something you decided must be part of it because there's no way they could just want to get serious about pursuing him?

[Kuroageha]

What the girls feel towards Pansy in the LN so far is envy and inferiority towards her.
1. In looks they feel they lost already: Pansy is the 絶世美人 (peerless beauty; there's always one in isekai, school series, fantasy, etc and they never win) in this series.
2. Smarts, even if Pansy isn't at the top of the school scores isn't because she lacks intelligence but to keep her profile low and it shows as she has out smarted other girls in the series. Intelligence =/= smart
3. In empathy between femalexmale (Joro) also they feel like they lost, not once but twice, and those two times ended with them betraying Joro and then Joro and Pansy while the latter sided with him.

[BWTraveller]

So, the sort of feelings you'd expect a romantic rival to feel toward someone who they see as having lots of advantages (I put it that way because I've just as often seen the same feelings from girls who've obviously won the hero's heart on account of "advantages" that don't really matter). Maybe portrayed more intensely (debatably more OR less realistically). No blame for these incidents as suggested by Rimbo?

[Kuroageha]

He is way off the track IMO. To begin never tried seducing anyone. He wanted to be the rebound guy in the case either girl got rejected he helped them out of good will but never expected to have been used by them and then thrown away when he no longer was useful.

[charlie2020]

Honestly, I don't get why Joro deserves sympathy or at least doesn't deserve so much sympathy. He clearly at the start tries to seduce Himawari and Cosmos without considering how they feel. The only reason we feel bad for him is because he gets the short end of the stick. If it were Himwari and Cosmos that gets it, I'm sure Joro would treat them poorly as well.

After that, Cosmos admits she has a lot to answer for and I think that part can be true. That's why she and Himawari more or less willing to be Joro's sex slaves if that meant he's happy and if that ever happens.

So why did these two and Asunaro want Hose to win? Even if they didn't spell it out, they obviously do blame Pansy for causing Sun's raging insanity and causing Joro's hell hole even if she help them see what Sun and Joro are really like. Not to mention, they don't want to lose Joro much like Joro doesn't want to lose them.

Like the others said, he was never seducing them, but just supporting both and getting the consolation, or loser. And they want Hose to win because they want to get rid of Panji to have a chance to be Joro’s lover; and as Kuro said, they’re envious of how superior she is to the other 3/4 who have feelings for him. And this situation is where some of us have a bit of a debate as to whether those girls should be considered as traitorous bitches or earnest girls who want to win the war in love.

He is way off the track IMO. To begin never tried seducing anyone. He wanted to be the rebound guy in the case either girl got rejected he helped them out of good will but never expected to have been used by them and then thrown away when he no longer was useful.

Perhaps this is where we get to the reference of the title oresuki. It seems Panji is the only one who genuinely loves Joro, while Joro is just in denial of his feelings for her to maintain status quo.

So, the sort of feelings you'd expect a romantic rival to feel toward someone who they see as having lots of advantages (I put it that way because I've just as often seen the same feelings from girls who've obviously won the hero's heart on account of "advantages" that don't really matter). Maybe portrayed more intensely (debatably more OR less realistically). No blame for these incidents as suggested by Rimbo?

Yeah, that’s pretty much the envy they feel for panji: the fact that she’s pretty much perfect despite how manipulative she could be. And yeah, more intensely, since their jealousy straight up compelled them to take her out of the “race”

[Kuroageha]

One fun scenario going on is that despite Himawari is the de facto childhood friend of the MC, she barely meets with his mother, meanwhile we see out of the school how well Pansy and Keiki get along, so much they share the same interests, go shopping and have the same hobby of teasing and tormenting Joro. They are covering each other's back, so if something something sexual happened they would blame Joro even if the culprit was Pansy herself, they both know it but all is fair because their goal in that scenario would be make Joro take responsability thus Pansy becomes Keikei's daughter in law and Pansy gets Joro without anyone getting in the way, it's a win-win.

[charlie2020]

One fun scenario going on is that despite Himawari is the de facto childhood friend of the MC, she barely meets with his mother, meanwhile we see out of the school how well Pansy and Keiki get along, so much they share the same interests, go shopping and have the same hobby of teasing and tormenting Joro. They are covering each other's back, so if something something sexual happened they would blame Joro even if the culprit was Pansy herself, they both know it but all is fair because their goal in that scenario would be make Joro take responsability thus Pansy becomes Keikei's daughter in law and Pansy gets Joro without anyone getting in the way, it's a win-win.

Oh yeah, now that you mention it, she does know where his secret stash is because his mother told her, and Panji also knows his tastes. But it’s unfortunate that himawari knows that he likes broccoli, and cosmos attempts to cater her cooking to his tastes. The author should do a final chapter or even novel with just one shots of panji and Joro together, however romantic and playful it gets

[charlie2020]

well, can I have more detail?

In the manga, Joro wanted to stay away from the girls so they don’t get harassed; then the girls say they want to always be with him and will never betray him again when asunaro wrote libelous statements about Joro. Yet when Joro needed their help to protect Panji, those three helped the enemy instead with their votes because they each want to be his girlfriend, a move so hypocritical that I’m surprised he didn’t straight up call them out on their bs. And bwt and I were having a disagreement as to whether that action was a betrayal or just the girls being purely earnest.

[Kuroageha]

In their selfishness they're willing to throwing friendship away.

[BWTraveller]

Part of the problem is the situation itself. He'd just been going on about how wrong it felt that those other two girls were so eager to throw their own happiness away in order to try and support Hose. So why they could be said to have betrayed him, at the same time it could be said that they were acting according to his feelings of what a person should do.

[Kuroageha]

Part of the problem is the situation itself. He'd just been going on about how wrong it felt that those other two girls were so eager to throw their own happiness away in order to try and support Hose. So why they could be said to have betrayed him, at the same time it could be said that they were acting according to his feelings of what a person should do.
Are you putting Cherry and Tsukimi in the same bag with Sasanka, Himawari and Cosmos?

[BWTraveller]

To an extent. Imagine you're in love with a guy who appears to be, in your view, falling for another girl. Then you see two girls who're friendly and loyal to the point where they would sacrifice their hearts to support their beloved, and your crush makes it quite clear that he finds such a thing wrong. Then suddenly he just springs on you a situation where he apparently expects you to help him get rid of his romantic rival for his "love". You haven't been given all this detail about how much that girl dislikes being near said "rival", you just know that he likes her and your crush wants your help getting rid of him. While they may not be a perfect match (though I'm curious what makes you so skeptical about the comparison), the guy's words and feelings concerning their behavior and what he thinks of it will probably come to mind.

[Kuroageha]

Just don't, those two groups have nothing in common.

[charlie2020]

To an extent. Imagine you're in love with a guy who appears to be, in your view, falling for another girl. Then you see two girls who're friendly and loyal to the point where they would sacrifice their hearts to support their beloved, and your crush makes it quite clear that he finds such a thing wrong. Then suddenly he just springs on you a situation where he apparently expects you to help him get rid of his romantic rival for his "love". You haven't been given all this detail about how much that girl dislikes being near said "rival", you just know that he likes her and your crush wants your help getting rid of him. While they may not be a perfect match (though I'm curious what makes you so skeptical about the comparison), the guy's words and feelings concerning their behavior and what he thinks of it will probably come to mind.

We haven’t seen much of what Hose has done, but for Joro, he made the first sacrificial move, so there is definitely a moral obligation for the three girls to help him out, considering how forgiving he’s been to the three girls; clearly, when he needed their help, they didn’t bother committing to the same effort. At least to me, their “earnestness” is extreme enough to be considered a selfish and desperate move. Hose, while he may have saved the library and helped mitigate some harassment Panji faced, seems to often deflect other people’s feelings and possibly neglecting them, a trait that’s somewhat paradoxical to Joro’s. My point is that what the three girls are doing is more severe and damaging than what the other two girls are doing.

And sure, one could make the argument that me looking down on those three is assuming that Joro is entitled to their friends helping him when he already sacrificed so much. But that makes it even more horrible for their outlook. Joro may not have 4D level thinking like Panji, but even he doesn’t like be used and abused and later tossed away.

[BWTraveller]

He made a "sacrificial move" yes, but again the girls don't know the details so to them it's just him trying to get rid of a romantic rival and expecting their help.

And again, what's so incredibly different? I know that in the long run their characters are severely different and they'd do things Joro's girls wouldn't, but at the same time from the limited knowledge the girls have, they do seem the same: a group of girls in love with a boy who's "in love with Pansy". The only difference is those girls decided to make excuses to sacrifice their own happiness for his, which Joro has said in their presence is messed up and seriously not right. It kind of makes sense from what they know and what they've heard Joro say that they'd feel choosing to fight for his hand was the right action to take. Looking from Joro's eyes yes, it could be seen as a betrayal. But from their eyes it probably looks quite different.

But then again, everyone's selfish in this series so a bit of self-serving behavior is to be expected. And at the least I wouldn't compare refusing to sacrifice their feelings for the sake of Joro's love to their earlier acts in the first arc. They aren't treating anyone like a mere tool whose feelings don't matter. They're just deciding that their feelings matter too and finally standing up and expressing them.

[charlie2020]

He made a "sacrificial move" yes, but again the girls don't know the details so to them it's just him trying to get rid of a romantic rival and expecting their help.

And again, what's so incredibly different? I know that in the long run their characters are severely different and they'd do things Joro's girls wouldn't, but at the same time from the limited knowledge the girls have, they do seem the same: a group of girls in love with a boy who's "in love with Pansy". The only difference is those girls decided to make excuses to sacrifice their own happiness for his, which Joro has said in their presence is messed up and seriously not right. It kind of makes sense from what they know and what they've heard Joro say that they'd feel choosing to fight for his hand was the right action to take. Looking from Joro's eyes yes, it could be seen as a betrayal. But from their eyes it probably looks quite different.

But then again, everyone's selfish in this series so a bit of self-serving behavior is to be expected. And at the least I wouldn't compare refusing to sacrifice their feelings for the sake of Joro's love to their earlier acts in the first arc. They aren't treating anyone like a mere tool whose feelings don't matter. They're just deciding that their feelings matter too and finally standing up and expressing them.

If by girls you mean those three, then yes, allow me to explain. This is where the light novel does a little better: the girls know the details of the contest; they just don't want Panji near Joro.

What's different between the two groups is the context. Those three at their most self-centered and selfish motives ended up hurting someone in the process: the person they would end up liking. I think this is where it's less factual and more interpretative. Also, the second difference is that Joro gave them a second chance: he was mad, but he still remained friends with those three, despite the fact that they have never once thought about the repercussions of their actions.

As I said before, Cosmos was acting all virtuous and moral in ch 24 saying how being selfish doesn't bring happiness. Yet those three are putting their friendship with Panji and with Joro on the line as well as the friendship/relationship Panji and Joro share. They don't seem to care enough about how hard Joro worked to be friends with those three again, nor do they seem to care enough about getting Panji to be friends with them too. If they really considered the importance of Panji and Joro, then they would have straight up just confessed or used their charms to their advantage, but that didn't happen because they want to use the contest to get rid of Panji. In other words, when Joro needed their help, those three only thought about helping themselves and their own feelings by siding with Hose, and this is what I cannot stand. Their mouths say one thing (they say they will always be there for Joro), but their actions say another.

Maybe you're just more forgiving or apologetic than I am, because using a relationship as a sacrifice for a goal multiple times (first the childhood friend/senpai relationship, and now one of Joro's friends) screams back-stabbing and selfishness to me.

[BWTraveller]

So, they know all about Pansy's relationship with Hose, the way she feels about him and the way people are trying to force her to get together with him? And are you saying they also knew Joro's plan or that he was plotting something along those lines beforehand?

Well yeah, if they knew Joro's plan before he sprung it there and they knew about the reasons it was important, that would change things to a degree. The reason I saw it as OK was because without such prior knowledge they couldn't be said to be "planning to get rid of Pansy" or anything like that, or of abandoning her in a bad situation, and they themselves would be particularly put on the spot having to, at that very moment, decide whether to go along with Joro or go along with what Joro had previously said. And on top of that it would put Joro's actions rather close to Hose's, with him acting of his own accord and expecting things to turn out the way he wants without really understanding the feelings of those around him. But if they knew the plan beforehand and knew its reason it is different. The actions would naturally be much crueler with them knowing that they were letting someone they treated as a friend become even more trapped in a nasty situation, and if they knew beforehand what Joro was planning or even that he was planning something then they kind of screwed him over not telling him beforehand that they wouldn't go along with such things.

Anyway, all that aside, I at the least do find it hard to associate the current actions so closely with the past actions. In the past, they took a guy who was interested in them and took advantage of his kindness and connection to make him work for them and help them gain a romantic connection to another guy. This time, they haven't used Pansy or anyone else at all, or taken advantage of their feelings or relationship. They've instead decided not to help or let themselves be used to create a relationship situation that they didn't like. Not really an easy comparison. That's not to say that their actions are good or bad, only that trying to say they're doing what they did before again is kind of like insisting that a square peg was made for a round hole.

On a different note, so I can look it through myself, what chapter range does this happen in on the LN?

[charlie2020]

So, they know all about Pansy's relationship with Hose, the way she feels about him and the way people are trying to force her to get together with him? And are you saying they also knew Joro's plan or that he was plotting something along those lines beforehand?

Well yeah, if they knew Joro's plan before he sprung it there and they knew about the reasons it was important, that would change things to a degree. The reason I saw it as OK was because without such prior knowledge they couldn't be said to be "planning to get rid of Pansy" or anything like that, or of abandoning her in a bad situation, and they themselves would be particularly put on the spot having to, at that very moment, decide whether to go along with Joro or go along with what Joro had previously said. And on top of that it would put Joro's actions rather close to Hose's, with him acting of his own accord and expecting things to turn out the way he wants without really understanding the feelings of those around him. But if they knew the plan beforehand and knew its reason it is different. The actions would naturally be much crueler with them knowing that they were letting someone they treated as a friend become even more trapped in a nasty situation, and if they knew beforehand what Joro was planning or even that he was planning something then they kind of screwed him over not telling him beforehand that they wouldn't go along with such things.

Anyway, all that aside, I at the least do find it hard to associate the current actions so closely with the past actions. In the past, they took a guy who was interested in them and took advantage of his kindness and connection to make him work for them and help them gain a romantic connection to another guy. This time, they haven't used Pansy or anyone else at all, or taken advantage of their feelings or relationship. They've instead decided not to help or let themselves be used to create a relationship situation that they didn't like. Not really an easy comparison. That's not to say that their actions are good or bad, only that trying to say they're doing what they did before again is kind of like insisting that a square peg was made for a round hole.

On a different note, so I can look it through myself, what chapter range does this happen in on the LN?

Then I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. Maybe you’re just more forgiving, or I just despise them because I can’t move on from what they did, but clearly you and I have different interpretations of the same events.

[charlie2020]

Moving on, not sure if doing so is within forum rules, but I found some interesting details about volume 13.

Link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OreSuki/comments/ei4h9b/oresuki_light_novel_volume_13_spoiler/

Jouro ask Sun-chan for a love advice how to deal his love dillema and make a clear shot who he want to be. Sun-chan advice him to going on date with his every harem girl from Sasanqua, Cosmos, Himawari and Pansy. I guess Yoki is just Jouro friend type and don't ask me why no Asunaro in Jouro harem dating plan because I just translated what the spoiler says. Every girl messed up with the date except Pansy. Start with Sasanqua that overacting on date by making a fuss with Jouro. Meanwhile the new Himawari with the mature attitude become awkward with Jouro on their date. And Cosmos being a childish on her date with Jouro. Still, every girl already give their best charm. Pansy the only one who act like a normal girl that fall in love with Jouro and smile at him. Got development on their relationship. Pansy sincere feeling really reach to Jouro heart, but..... There are something that Pansy is hidden from Jouro, some secret that not reveal yet, but that spoiler guy say, it related to her promise with her hospitalizes sister. Who saved from death in the spring incidents from light novel volume 8 for his speculation. About her promise with her sister and become her sister substitute to flirt Jouro for her sister side??? After discussion with Sun-chan, Jouro finally decide to choice someone with the heavy decisions that finally break every Jouro harem girl heart. Jouro became guilty about his decision and feel sorry for the girl and he willing through the pain for them. Yes Jouro choice Pansy but still unclear because only the hint giving not officially from his mouth. And Pansy really love Jouro but she can't be together with Jouro because of her situation, I not sure if related to her promise to her sister, because her secret no reveal yet, it only that spoiler guy speculation. Just one thing that interest me from that spoiler guy speculation is about Hazaki and Jouro conversation from light novel volume 10 that got to do with Pansy situation. Hazuki tell Jouro that soon, he will reach the harder path, like he know something about Pansy situation is. That spoiler guy says Oresuki light novel volume 14 will be the final one and it will answer all the questions if Pansy the girl that Jouro fall in love with or will Jouro and Pansy to be together?

In case I broke the rules, please don't report me, but just slide me a dm, and I will take down my post asap, thanks! :)

[Kuroageha]

I thought there was room for 2 more volumes tbh.

[charlie2020]

I thought there was room for 2 more volumes tbh.

What did you think the author would write in 2 volumes?

[Kuroageha]

Last before the end: Joro chooses.
Last/Finale: Joro's life as couple with Pansy.

[charlie2020]

Last before the end: Joro chooses.
Last/Finale: Joro's life as couple with Pansy.

Oh, that would make sense. Too bad that if the spoiler/afterword is accurate, then we won’t get as much story of his choice and life as a couple. Instead, it’s likely the choice would take up the next volume, and then the life as couple could be shoved into the epilogue.

Anyway, Joro definitely took the other three's dates well, considering the bs he went through. Still can't find myself moving on from them, let alone justifying their moments of selfishness. What's your take?

[charlie2020]

Link: https://www.facebook.com/Fuyuking.R/posts/oresuki-novel-volume-13-spoiler-by-hainz-hanna-thanks-for-spoiler-mate-it-is-tru/763660507450611/

Oresuki Novel Volume 13 Spoiler by Hainz Hanna
Thanks for spoiler mate

***

...It is true! One more thing, seriously is the last thing, I will make a joke on Joro.

A special mischief that my special person will receive by force.

"A-Anyway, call your house soon"

"Yes! I will do that, but first!"

"Eh!"

I made a joke on Joro. A very simple joke.

Just... I saw Joro at a distance very close to his face.

"......"

Suddenly, Joro opened his eyes and said nothing at all.

But it was the same for me.

I'm doing it, but I'm getting ashamed and now I close my eyes. Then I realized by the sensation on my lips.

"Fufufu. D-Did I do it right? How was it?"

I didn't realize how long it lasted.

It could have been just a moment or a long time.

Anyway, I asked Joro after moving away a little.

"Got damn! Why do you do something as important as if it were nothing?"

Joro has a bright red face that I can distinguish even though the light that illuminates us is a strong blue.

It's a bit lonely that I don't see my face firmly because his line of vision wanders around.

"I didn't do it as if it wasn't something important. I wanted to give it to Joro right now. I wanted it to be just for Joro, so I gave it to you"

I still have bad habits, but I behave more adult.

But that's okay! After all I am his senpai,

And Joro belongs to me, to Sakura Akino!!

"Yes, but think a little more about the place! And this is not the time to do these things; Think about the environment. And don't think you surprised me!"

"Fufufu! You got mad!"

In the end, my joke was a great success!

Eliminate my previous mistakes and totally gave it a spin!

"Of course! You did that...!"

"Could you call me Sakura from now on?"

"Be silent and call your home!"

Mu~ he recently called me by my first name, and now you don't call me by my first name at important times like this!

But it's okay! It would be boring if it makes all my whims come true right now!

I think it's wonderful because I'm trying my best to have it for me!

"I swear, sorry for doing something so strange, and thank you"

"Don't apologize for that, just call now!

"Okay I'll call"

I'm a senior in high school. Joro is in the second year of high school. Then there will be an inevitable farewell soon.

But I don't think it would be good even if we could stop time. And we can't be of the same degree either.

From now on, I just want to do more fun things with Joro.

If I stopped here, everything would be a waste.

"Ah, it's true, Joro"

"What?"

"It doesn't bother me if you also want to make a joke on me"

"I-I won't!"

A pleasant cry from Joro.

While listening, I took out my smartphone and called my dad.

It is the first time I break my curfew; will get angry!

I'm always afraid of dad getting angry, but this is not the case now.

This time he will get angry... ¡because he knows that I am with the person I love!

***

From now on I will only meet one girl.

I can only meet the most important girl, I can't meet other girls.

Wasn't it obvious?

I destroyed three relationships with other girls to create this relationship.

***

For you who ask who's the girl.... its Sakura aka Cosmos-Senpai
And yes i too can't believe our beloved cover girl lose well, lets wait and see upcoming volume

If only she said this in the very beginning and never backstabbed Joro.

[Kuroageha]

Link: https://www.facebook.com/Fuyuking.R/posts/oresuki-novel-volume-13-spoiler-by-hainz-hanna-thanks-for-spoiler-mate-it-is-tru/763660507450611/

Oresuki Novel Volume 13 Spoiler by Hainz Hanna
Thanks for spoiler mate

***

...It is true! One more thing, seriously is the last thing, I will make a joke on Joro.

A special mischief that my special person will receive by force.

"A-Anyway, call your house soon"

"Yes! I will do that, but first!"

"Eh!"

I made a joke on Joro. A very simple joke.

Just... I saw Joro at a distance very close to his face.

"......"

Suddenly, Joro opened his eyes and said nothing at all.

But it was the same for me.

I'm doing it, but I'm getting ashamed and now I close my eyes. Then I realized by the sensation on my lips.

"Fufufu. D-Did I do it right? How was it?"

I didn't realize how long it lasted.

It could have been just a moment or a long time.

Anyway, I asked Joro after moving away a little.

"Got damn! Why do you do something as important as if it were nothing?"

Joro has a bright red face that I can distinguish even though the light that illuminates us is a strong blue.

It's a bit lonely that I don't see my face firmly because his line of vision wanders around.

"I didn't do it as if it wasn't something important. I wanted to give it to Joro right now. I wanted it to be just for Joro, so I gave it to you"

I still have bad habits, but I behave more adult.

But that's okay! After all I am his senpai,

And Joro belongs to me, to Sakura Akino!!

"Yes, but think a little more about the place! And this is not the time to do these things; Think about the environment. And don't think you surprised me!"

"Fufufu! You got mad!"

In the end, my joke was a great success!

Eliminate my previous mistakes and totally gave it a spin!

"Of course! You did that...!"

"Could you call me Sakura from now on?"

"Be silent and call your home!"

Mu~ he recently called me by my first name, and now you don't call me by my first name at important times like this!

But it's okay! It would be boring if it makes all my whims come true right now!

I think it's wonderful because I'm trying my best to have it for me!

"I swear, sorry for doing something so strange, and thank you"

"Don't apologize for that, just call now!

"Okay I'll call"

I'm a senior in high school. Joro is in the second year of high school. Then there will be an inevitable farewell soon.

But I don't think it would be good even if we could stop time. And we can't be of the same degree either.

From now on, I just want to do more fun things with Joro.

If I stopped here, everything would be a waste.

"Ah, it's true, Joro"

"What?"

"It doesn't bother me if you also want to make a joke on me"

"I-I won't!"

A pleasant cry from Joro.

While listening, I took out my smartphone and called my dad.

It is the first time I break my curfew; will get angry!

I'm always afraid of dad getting angry, but this is not the case now.

This time he will get angry... ¡because he knows that I am with the person I love!

***

From now on I will only meet one girl.

I can only meet the most important girl, I can't meet other girls.

Wasn't it obvious?

I destroyed three relationships with other girls to create this relationship.

***

For you who ask who's the girl.... its Sakura aka Cosmos-Senpai
And yes i too can't believe our beloved cover girl lose well, lets wait and see upcoming volume

If only she said this in the very beginning and never backstabbed Joro.

The one talking about destroying his relationship with 3 girls isn't Cosmos but Joro btw.
The detail: he's going to meet someone which discards Cosmos who was with him a while ago.

And in context, Cosmos is graduating so she'll leave and won't be able to spend time with Joro as she was used to, this was her last chance to make Joro fall for her.

[charlie2020]

The one talking about destroying his relationship with 3 girls isn't Cosmos but Joro btw.
The detail: he's going to meet someone which discards Cosmos who was with him a while ago.

And in context, Cosmos is graduating so she'll leave and won't be able to spend time with Joro as she was used to, this was her last chance to make Joro fall for her.



So it’s official?

[charlie2020]

Cosmos, ahh. The shitty senpai.
Yeah, finally!!

There's nothing worse than a rejection than a non rejection called 'but you're a friend to me' ;)

Thoughts on his resolution so far? Was this ending satisfying for you, or did you prefer something more extreme/painful for her?

Edit:

Damn it, unless Joro has been kissed on the lips before, since Cosmos kissed him, does this mean Panji got ntr'd?

[Disdanny]

Thoughts on his resolution so far? Was this ending satisfying for you, or did you prefer something more extreme/painful for her?

Edit:

Damn it, unless Joro has been kissed on the lips before, since Cosmos kissed him, does this mean Panji got ntr'd?

I don't think so. All the girls suck aside Panji

[Ruki0089]

Yup. Every girls aside Panji are suck.

[charlie2020]

Agreed. Looking back, why did he even bother trying to rekindle the friendship with the girls? Sun, I'm barely okay with since he did redeem himself for helping Joro in the contest despite being the reason his reputation got tarnished in the first place, but why does he still bother with those girls? Literally walking parasites, just remembering their horrendous deeds makes me wanna beat them to death.

[Kuroageha]

Agreed. Looking back, why did he even bother trying to rekindle the friendship with the girls? Sun, I'm barely okay with since he did redeem himself for helping Joro in the contest despite being the reason his reputation got tarnished in the first place, but why does he still bother with those girls? Literally walking parasites, just remembering their horrendous deeds makes me wanna beat them to death.
Remember Joro was bent on trying to create a status quo friendship school life in order to feel he can fit in there.

Not his fault those girls are prompt to blow it all away.

[charlie2020]

Remember Joro was bent on trying to create a status quo friendship school life in order to feel he can fit in there.

Not his fault those girls are prompt to blow it all away.

Yeah, I don't know about you, but it's still hard for me to stomach their actions and move on, even more so considering what Cosmos did in the last scene of Vol 13. F*ck that, no excuse for any of them to be a piece of sh*t.

[Kuroageha]

Why the heck people think Lilac has any chance of being a contender? She literally got rejected in her debut volume :heh:.

[charlie2020]

Why the heck people think Lilac has any chance of being a contender? She literally got rejected in her debut volume :heh:.

Wait, what happened? Did Joro say to her "I don't see you that way", or did she never have feelings for him?

[Kuroageha]

Volume 14 cover https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXvqBP1WsAMs1HF?format=jpg&name=orig

Wait, what happened? Did Joro say to her "I don't see you that way", or did she never have feelings for him?

She basically joined them to trade Himawari(she was also get and MC's childhood friend and neighbours but moved away due to her parents work. Tries to tease Joro and realises other girls interested on Joro, by the end of the book she falls for him and tells him but Joro rejects her as he doesn't see her that way.
She gets along with her friends again and leaves not before warning Joro to make his mind and stop with his status quo BS which leads to him announcing he will pick a girl later

[eisai_haramasukoi]

How many volumes before Panji's imminent victory?

[Ruki0089]

I believe Author just want to make other girls look bad before ending this:heh:

[Kuroageha]

More like the author is slowly revealing Panji's secrets.

[charlie2020]

How many volumes before Panji's imminent victory?

The next one should be the last one.

[Kuroageha]

Preview is on the official website I'll quick translate the tabke of contents.

Epilogue: I can hug you
C1: I can't meet the first one/person yet
C2: My final help
C3: I say
Epilogue: I continue


C0: The one I love it's you.

Prologue and chapters 1-3 use male for 'I'.
The C0 uses a female 'I'.
You can easily guess to who those belongs to

[Kuroageha]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZgr5qLUYAQIVaj?format=jpg

TL: "Panji, I'll lend you this name."

This might be the biggest reveal of the series.

[Anemya]

what? like she has a twin or something? or maybe "panji" is given by joro's mother?

[Kuroageha]

what? like she has a twin or something? or maybe "panji" is given by joro's mother?


Theory is Pansy has a sister who lend her the name of Sumireko and pretend to be her instead in order to approach Joro.
I'm not sure if it was a plot from her sister to break Pansy's shell or sister was pulling a Cyrano through Pansy.

[Kuroageha]

Sasanka: rejected
Himawari: rejected
Cosmos: rejected
Pansy: cucked by her sister

[Disdanny]

Sasanka: rejected
Himawari: rejected
Cosmos: rejected
Pansy: cucked by her sister


Lol wtf? Is the author just trolling?

[Kuroageha]

OVA was scheduled for early September.

[sparhawk1610]

From what I get from last part around the last illust. She is not her sis or twin, she just met that girl in the library... She had similar name. She borrowed her one of her nicknames and she will take it back once the time is right. But now she messed up.


and here you go with illust https://imgur.com/a/Zsg0QOs

[Ruki0089]

Now, everything messed...
But I'm happy the bitches got rejected

[tsunade666]

0_0 what? wtf is that development. Seriously? ;

[Anemya]

so what happened in the end??? damit my sazankaaaaa

[Kuroageha]

From what I get from last part around the last illust. She is not her sis or twin, she just met that girl in the library... She had similar name. She borrowed her one of her nicknames and she will take it back once the time is right. But now she messed up.


and here you go with illust https://imgur.com/a/Zsg0QOs
Codename: Viola

[charlie2020]

Now, everything messed...
But I'm happy the bitches got rejected

Damn, does that mean the “Panji” we’ve seen up to this point was just a fake? If she did get cucked, then I actually feel really bad for her, especially if Joro did meet her on that baseball day.

[eisai_haramasukoi]

Sasanka: rejected
Himawari: rejected
Cosmos: rejected
Pansy: cucked by her sister


What, in the actual ass?!

[Kuroageha]

From what I get from last part around the last illust. She is not her sis or twin, she just met that girl in the library... She had similar name. She borrowed her one of her nicknames and she will take it back once the time is right. But now she messed up.


and here you go with illust https://imgur.com/a/Zsg0QOs
Also, Tohko and Viola are sisters, Pansy has 3 colours: Violet (Viola), Yellow(Tohko) and White(Sumireko).
The series has been throwing hints at us even on the covers it's crazy how all the dots are being connected through this volume and forces me to check past scenes I might rewatch the anime to find if they also have them, so far found a picture with two Pansies in one scene.
Did the book Pansy lend to Joro belonged to Viola or Tohko?
Was the girl Joro meet after the baseball match Viola or Tohko?
Etc

Edit: Jekyll & Hyde book Pansy was carrying around?!?!

[tsunade666]

what's with the arrow pointer in the cover and illustration?

[Anemya]

Also, Tohko and Viola are sisters, Pansy has 3 colours: Violet (Viola), Yellow(Tohko) and White(Sumireko).
The series has been throwing hints at us even on the covers it's crazy how all the dots are being connected through this volume and forces me to check past scenes I might rewatch the anime to find if they also have them, so far found a picture with two Pansies in one scene.
Did the book Pansy lend to Joro belonged to Viola or Tohko?
Was the girl Joro meet after the baseball match Viola or Tohko?
Etc

Edit: Jekyll & Hyde book Pansy was carrying around?!?!

who the heck is tohko and viola? I only know sumireko..

[Kuroageha]

who the heck is tohko and viola? I only know sumireko..
Viola: older sister
Tohko: little sister
Pansy: fake persona created by Viola and played by Tohko, known as Sumireko, those who knew her before changing schools know her real identity.

I'm not sure if they refer as sisters because of how close they're or if they're truly BR *facepalms*

[Endless_Paradox]

Viola: older sister
Tohko: little sister
Pansy: fake persona created by Viola and played by Tohko, known as Sumireko, those who knew her before changing schools know her real identity.

I'm not sure if they refer as sisters because of how close they're or if they're truly BR *facepalms*


So, in the end, Joro ended up with whom? Viola or Tohko

[SirCopert]

So, in the end, Joro ended up with whom? Viola or Tohko

The series is still ongoing

[Disdanny]

The manga just ended at 42 I think it's an original ending. It was not bad.

[Kuroageha]

Anime OVA is out.
Wait for crunchy subs if you're patient enough.

[Doggogaron]

Why not just take them both, right? That's win win.

[Kuroageha]

Vol15 Index
Prologue: We are your friends
C1: I couldn't find her
C2: Let's have a date
C3: I can't understand
C3: I'm losing her from my eyes
C4: I'm "Pansy"
Epilogue: You're my only friend

[Ruki0089]

Final vol??

[dark44]

Vol15 Index
Prologue: We are your friends
C1: I couldn't find her
C2: Let's have a date
C3: I can't understand
C3: I'm losing her from my eyes
C4: I'm "Pansy"
Epilogue: You're my only friend


Friend end ????????????:(:(:(

[tuckersister]

He wants to start over cuz there are many secrets about Pansy. He want Pansy but to better know the real Pansy before going forward. Hence he wants to go back to square one with their relationship. That's my opinion.

Pansy's secrets made her and Joro confused and lost. Basically their relationship is shattered.

[Kuroageha]

Final vol??
No, isn't over yet.

[AP24]

Main story has ended, final volume will be an after story

[dark44]

Main story has ended, final volume will be an after story

spoilers about the end ?

[Kuroageha]

spoilers about the end ?
Pansy won, and in this time (unlike the anime and manga) Jyoro actually kissed her.

[patnam]

Pansy won, and in this time (unlike the anime and manga) Jyoro actually kissed her.

should have make a movie just like Saekano's movie finale...

[Kuroageha]

Vol17 cover
Release date: January 22
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGFeDBVX0AU8zIZ?format=jpg&name=medium