Darling in the Franxx

[Sakuratsuki]

I'm not a fan of Tsundere, so I can definitely vouch for her being less interesting if she was. Her personality and confidence are great, but we have pointed out she's got some massive flaws over the last few pages, including a flagrant disinterest in the lives of others outside of Hiro.

And I also hope that people see where those ''massive flaws'' come from and how her surroundings had an influence on that. :rolleyes:

[Gan_HOPE326]

In other words, nobody cares if a girl is incredibly sadistic, cares about no one, is a bitch to everyone, kind to no one, treats her "darling" like a possession, and generally acts like a self entitled spoiled brat, and has zero redeeming qualities, because as long as she's hot....

As usual, being hot is the only thing that matters to people. Now excuse me while I rinse my brain as I try to forget I am the same species as these people.

This is pretty silly for a number of reasons.

First, yes, there are some traits that can result 'hot' on a first impression whereas we realise the flaws implicit in them in the long run. That is just normal. Some tastes are acquired, others are enjoyable only in small amounts.

Second, this is fiction, and I feel like when people keep attaching moral or personal judgement to others based on what they like in their movies/anime/whatever they're basically acting as if they're the only ones realising that, or as if people relate to fiction as they do to reality. Repeat the mantra: this is fiction, and as I realise it, so does mostly everyone else. Corollary: this is fiction, and the same rewards, punishments, and ethical considerations as real life do not apply. So if someone like 02 in real life could be hot but also really dangerous and abusive, in fiction, we can enjoy the seductive aspects of her character without having to fear for the consequences. Because she is not a real person. Just like I can enjoy running people over and killing innocents in GTA without being a sociopath in real life, because I do it in GTA exactly because I know those are non-sentient artificial constructs. It's make-believe. Children realise this when they're, like, four years old, so it'd be really nice to stop this current trend (which doesn't certainly belong to you alone) to pretend that grown-ass adults don't just because they like stuff that you don't. Usually, they do. Every day, lots of thinkpieces, and critiques, and political analyses come out that seem to be based on this fundamentally stupid and flawed premise.

[Styraxx]

In other words, nobody cares if a girl is incredibly sadistic, cares about no one, is a bitch to everyone, kind to no one, treats her "darling" like a possession, and generally acts like a self entitled spoiled brat, and has zero redeeming qualities, because as long as she's hot....

As usual, being hot is the only thing that matters to people. Now excuse me while I rinse my brain as I try to forget I am the same species as these people.

As for me, these negative part of her personality make her interesting. Her attractive look it's just a nice addition.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Speaking of which, I found this scene rather interesting:

https://i.imgur.com/ixTK5xM.jpg?1



A rather piercing question I think.

Why are they called Parasites? Why are they just referred by numbers? Do they even grow up as adults? What happens to those that don't pass?

Why are most of the adults sketchy wearing masks? Why are their meal prayers instead of giving thanks is praying for Papa's well being?

[_Ninja_]

Every anime girl is attractive. It doesn't make them stand.


Why are they called Parasites? Why are they just referred by numbers? Do they even grow up as adults? What happens to those that don't pass?

Why are most of the adults sketchy wearing masks? Why are their meal prayers instead of giving thanks is praying for Papa's well being?

They don't know what a kiss is. Ichigo and Goro don't even understand what they feel. Ironically Zero Two brings humanity into their group. She breaks their routine. Some of them start copying her. They observe her holding hands with Hiro with a mix of emotions. And even the pain and confusion Ichigo and Goro feel gives them more humanity. it's like they are awakening to more human experience.

I kind of have a feeling if rain didn't start Zero Two was going to lay it all out to Ichigo how much humanity they are lacking.

[zibi88]

Well the kids have no idea about adult stuff, they dont know about emotions, what is darling or what is a kiss. They live door to door with each other gender and have no naughty throughts. Its all becouse they were growing in such isolated environment, no one tought them about that besides how to use Franxx and how to combat.

Ichigo or Goro suffer from that lack of understanding of emotions, Ichigo is suffering for a reason she cant describe and understand and its driving her mad. Simply its an unknown thing to her just like how those emotions are new thing to Goro, he would want to cheer her up but did not know what to do or what is Ichigos deal.

Hiro too doesnt know about those stuff but he is slowly learning from 02, other kids are mimicing them.

That kiss Hiro shared with Ichigo was shallow becouse she was doing this with no deeper meaning, feelings, emotions she simply did it as an impulse like eating, becouse there was a chance that it would help Hiro get back to piloting, 02 kissed with feelings of knowing what she is actualy doing.

In next episodes kids will mostly start to understand about emotions and feelings and how they drive people. Still Ichigo and Goro need to talk it out with each other and with Hiro what they feel or stuff will look grim for the synhro rate.

[Irenesharda]

I don't think it's fair to group all of 02's fans together in one big group, many people like her for different reasons.

I think as her character changes within the series, people will also change their opinion about her, while others with feel the same throughout.

She could mellow out and become much more emotionally connected to the other characters, some will love that and some would dislike that. She could also go full dark and cause the deaths of all the main cast and cause the MC's descent into the darkness. People would still love her character even then and make excuses for her, while others would begin to hate her.

Everyone's opinion is free to change, and most of them will.

[AB079]

Now we have official information. In this case Hiro doesn't have any kind of fellings for Ichigo, in the case of Zero Two, she's someone special for him (obvioulsy).

https://preview.ibb.co/mvZrmS/rel.jpg

[DevilHighDxD]

I don't think it's fair to group all of 02's fans together in one big group, many people like her for different reasons.

I think as her character changes within the series, people will also change their opinion about her, while others with feel the same throughout.

She could mellow out and become much more emotionally connected to the other characters, some will love that and some would dislike that. She could also go full dark and cause the deaths of all the main cast and cause the MC's descent into the darkness. People would still love her character even then and make excuses for her, while others would begin to hate her.

Everyone's opinion is free to change, and most of them will.

Her dealing with the topic of humanity and bakemono(monster), copilot of the title mech that is killing the MC the longer he piloting it, her altitude, and being voiced by Tomatsu. It literally screaming that “person” to me. You were there, you knew how much I was obsessed with her. :D

[_Ninja_]

Now we have official information. In this case Hiro doesn't have any kind of fellings for Ichigo, in the case of Zero Two, she's someone special for him (obvioulsy).


That chart is official?

[Anh_Minh]

I'm not enamored of 02, but I still like her. She's entertaining and I sympathize with her. I can see why some people would prefer her to be more classically heroic, and like the X-Men, love and protect a world that hates and fear her, but that's not her, and I think it's fine.

[Chosen_Hero]

I was about to start watching this series but after reading more of the thoughts on the characters from this thread I have concluded that this isn't the kind of anime I would enjoy. The comparisons to Star Driver made me curious (and this being a mecha anime was enough for me) but outside of that this seems to be a collection of all the things I hated from past shows like Aldnoah.Zero, Kiznaivers, and many more.

Also, the main girl just sounds like the exact sort of female lead that I hate, sorry but I am not in the mood to watch a walking masochistic fantasy walk around acting like she owns the place with little to no resistance from the other characters and even less so I want to have to deal with the fanbase that will eventually be born as more episodes release, I have been there too many times to know that I'd rather stay away than to have to deal with the mods either shutting down the thread or have someone report you for no reason. That is too bad since I was in the mood for another mecha anime to hold me over until the next Gundam series releases, but not enough to go through yet another Aldnoah.Zero, not again, never again (soundtrack of that series was dope though).

Hope you guys find some enjoyment in it.

[Magewolf]

Well, we do have to ask, which of those numbers apply to the cell seen on screen? We don't see them indicate which would be which. It could be that they use the PLT acronym and yet also call them yellow blood cells because they prefer to.

The reason I don't think they are klaxosaur cells is that they have made a distinction that 02 is the only one we've seen so far with klaxosaur blood. If everyone carries klaxosaur blood, they would have probably mentioned it already, and there would be more similarities between them and 02. 02 would pretty much be just like them, just with a higher blood cell count. Also they make a point about all the others being human and that this is an increase of cells and not that the cells have simply been introduced. And increase or decrease of said cells suggests they were already there to begin with. I don't think that is so.



Actually I think that makes it more likely that Yellow cells are klaxosaur in origin. Making all Parasites part klaxosaur with 02 just being at the upper end of how much klaxosaur they can make them and still have something usable.

That would help to explain the differences between Parasites and Adults. And of course they would never tell the Parasites they want them to stay loyal tools. The only reason 02 gets singled out is the horns which they must not be able to hide for some reason..

[Norn]

I'm guessing that they're called parasites because they actually have Klaxosaur (related) bood in them. The difference lies in how much one could take, with double and single digits having more amounts of parasites in them.

If I'm correct, then I'm also going to guess that Oni actually slowly turns her partners into her, or something similar to her. I think that Hiro's body is undergoing change and that after riding for the third time (the mission will most likely fail) he'll collapse and be hospitalized for one episode until the change is complete (and his body has regulated itself).

[DevilHighDxD]

I'm not enamored of 02, but I still like her. She's entertaining and I sympathize with her. I can see why some people would prefer her to be more classically heroic, and like the X-Men, love and protect a world that hates and fear her, but that's not her, and I think it's fine.

Honestly goody two-shoe characters are abundant, heck if people are so upset that 02 isn’t one than I recommended Gundam Seed/S.Destiny for them. Pink hair heroine and mecha? There you go. I prefer my character with favors in them instead of being filled with “I need to save world” messiah complex 24/7.

[Roxanne]

Ichigo's trying to be best girl :heh:
https://scontent.fgyd4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27973053_575722456104619_2876796934993564643_n.jpg ?oh=376cb3588422416a77837349484d3f22&oe=5ADAC5D8

[Norn]

Honestly goody two-shoe characters are abundant, heck if people are so upset that 02 isn’t one than I recommended Gundam Seed/S.Destiny for them. Pink hair heroine and mecha? There you go. I prefer my character with favors in them instead of being filled with “I need to save world” messiah complex 24/7.

Agreed. People are complaining too much about a heroine that is somewhat atypical.

[PentingWolf]

Now we have official information. In this case Hiro doesn't have any kind of fellings for Ichigo, in the case of Zero Two, she's someone special for him (obvioulsy).

https://preview.ibb.co/mvZrmS/rel.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Stejw7M.jpg

[_Ninja_]

Kokoro and Futoshi. Perfect compatibility vs. "nice partner". Ouch.

[Haak]

I think 02 is very abrasive and difficult and if I knew her in real life, I'd probably find her difficult to deal with. That said, it's not difficult to imagine how much her flaws and difficult personality is a product of her upbringing so overall I sympathise with her.

What I don't like is how this is devolving into a Ichigo/Everyone else vs 02 war, within the fandom. The scene with 02 and Ichigo in the rain highlighted how both were flawed and how they're both a product of their upbringing yet I'm seeing a lot of "02 is fine the way she is - everyone else is wrong" and "02 is a horrible person and no one should like her". Where's the nuance? Ichigo is in a difficult spot. She's trying very hard to not give a shit about Hiro's wellbeing because the system is telling her that's what it means to be a good leader and yet she can't help but be concerned because she's only human. She literally can't win in this situation and it's only exacerbated by her inexperience which leads her into making things worse with 02 at the worst time. 02 for her part is being completely unhelpful and stupid when she declares that not even her precious darling's wellbeing matters if she doesn't care. Even if she is hiding something, that was a pretty stupid thing to say that was clearly intended to provoke Ichigo. But again, it's hardly surprising that she's like that given her upbringing and I think it's only matter of time until she (and Ichigo) learn better. Now I do wish that the two main female characters had better characterisations than fighting over a male character, but I guess that's expecting too much for a show with sex based mecha power.

[EDIT]

I just realised how many times I said the word "difficult" in that first paragraph...

[_Ninja_]

What I don't like is how this is devolving into a Ichigo/Everyone else vs 02 war, within the fandom. The scene with 02 and Ichigo in the rain highlighted how both were flawed and how they're both a product of their upbringing yet I'm seeing a lot of "02 is fine the way she is - everyone else is wrong" and "02 is a horrible person and no one should like her".

It is indeed becoming bothersome in certain places on the internet.

[Mistyclear]

^ I SO don’t want to get involved with it, fans are scary—plus I’m withholding my opinion until more info is given.

[AB079]

It's obvious that shipping wars are going to happen when you have 2 females interested on the MC. Is up to everyone to avoid the shipping wars at all cost and analyze the information provided by the show itself. Sadly is evident that some users are unable to leave the bias aside and do it so it's better to ignore them and let the mods do their thing.

[Dauerlutscher]

I hope at least that we won't have a shipping war. Comments "like best girl" and "make excuses" will lead to that.

I don't care that Ichigo has feelings for Hiro.
And I don't think enyone is making excuses for 02.
Both have their reasons for acting how they do and I have no doubt that both will evolve through the story.

[PentingWolf]

It's obvious that shipping wars are going to happen when you have 2 females interested on the MC. Is up to everyone to avoid the shipping wars at all cost and analyze the information provided by the show itself. Sadly is evident that some users are unable to leave the bias aside and do it so it's better to ignore them and let the mods do their thing.

Well, ''Love Triangle'' is nothing new in Mecha.

Not only that, they're using the famous 'CuckGuy' trope too. Where Bizon is the King of kings and Sai is the Prince of princes. :heh::heh::heh:

https://i.imgur.com/QhEdHA7.jpg

[Galaxian]

Well, ''Love Triangle'' is nothing new in Mecha.

Not only that, they're using the famous 'CuckGuy' trope too. Where Bizon is the King of kings and Sai is the Prince of princes. :heh::heh::heh:

https://i.imgur.com/QhEdHA7.jpg

While we're at it, I would like to add Furuichi Teraoka from Xam'd: Lost Memories to the list.

http://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/images/characters/9/233139.jpg

Like I said, I hope Goro escapes this trope.

[Dauerlutscher]

If we want to be exact, in this show it's Ichigo who is the "guy" friend in the Lovetriangel.Hiro is not fighting with Goro about Ichigos heart at all because he is not even participating.

[Wandering Soul]

Kokoro and Futoshi. Perfect compatibility vs. "nice partner". Ouch.
You think that's bad? Mitsuru to Ikuno bluntly states "no interest".

[kari-no-sugata II]

To some degree, I have some sympathy for all the "children" (the pilots). This is mostly because they are in a highly regulated environment where they have little real freedom or control. They barely even recognise that they don't have such things either.

Even someone like Mitsuru - I don't like him but I can sympathise with him somewhat. He felt held back by his partner and wanted to prove himself but wasn't given the opportunity to do so for a long time. When an opportunity did come his way, he was willing to take various risks in order to achieve his goals and even without that trying to save his fellow pilots was a worthy goal. He did indeed have a bad attitude about it and gloating was in very poor taste but he didn't deserve what 02 deliberately did to him.

I've explained how I have sympathy for 02's situation previously so I'm not going to repeat that.

Where I struggle to have any sympathy is with the adults. They are the ones in control . They have the knowledge. They understand the situation. I dunno how much real control/flexibility adults like Nana and Hachi have within the system but they have displayed some. But they could have done much more. It's not like I dislike them exactly, but I don't empathise with them.

[Twi]

You think that's bad? Mitsuru to Ikuno bluntly states "no interest".

Eh. They're kids and its only been 5 episodes. Given enough time/dead bodies they'll change.

[Blueknight78]

i gonna say so far my most hated character here is for sure Mitsuru he scream annoying scum rival which only want to proof which he is better than mc, he don't give a shit to his own partner and is totally angry over being stomped by 02 and not being the "special person", when i was "he finally learned" then we see which he still the same scum throwing the gulty on his partner and trying to look down on others, he is literally throwing death flags as the scum which diservers to die.

[AB079]

I think that Mitsuru will not die right away, I bet that Goro is gonna die soon, remember that bros always die.

[_Ninja_]

You think that's bad? Mitsuru to Ikuno bluntly states "no interest".

We kind of knew that though. Kokoro and Futoshi were so far the drama-less couple.

[James Rye]

I think that Mitsuru will not die right away, I bet that Goro is gonna die soon, remember that bros always die.

I know the future looks bleak for our best bro, but I hope Gobro gonna survive this. Outta all the kids he's my fav character and an all-around great guy.

[Norn]

I think that Mitsuru will not die right away, I bet that Goro is gonna die soon, remember that bros always die.

Right now it's not clear who has the most death flags, but Goro is kind of essential to the development of both Hiro and Ichigo (especially the latter) so I'm pretty hopeful. Given the latest episode I'm not even sure which one of Ichigo and Goro would be affected the most in the case that Hiro's 3rd time with Oni ends up with him being hospitalized, so that too gives them a chance to develop and grow.

[erneiz_hyde]

Goro will die after kissing Ichigo.

[_Ninja_]

The stuff with Mitsuru and Goro hint at character arcs that are yet to be fulfilled. I don't think either is dying anytime soon or any out of the main cast.

[Irenesharda]

Mitsuru reminds me a bit of Yzak from SEED. And like Yzak, I wouldn't be surprised if he survived and changed a bit by the end. In fact, I thought there was a bit of a moment between him and Kokoro and I kind of want to see where that may go.

The character I really wish they would do something with is Futoshi. That "I'm fat so I must eat all the time!" stereotype is just so annoying and irritating. :mad:

Either give him something else to do, or kill him off!
I'm already annoyed with people comparing him to Biscuit from IBO, who was too good of a character to be compared to such a waste of space.:rolleyes:

Also, I too fear for Goro. However, I think he's safe until Hiro is really reminded of what a bro he is, and that's when his death flag will really rise. :(

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

I'm already annoyed with people comparing him to Biscuit from IBO, who was too good of a character to be compared to such a waste of space.:rolleyes: Yeah, Biscuit! Our chubby & gentle lawd and saviah! :D
https://cdn.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/hotlink-max400x400/cms/news/96498/biscuit-griffon.png.jpghttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/pics/figure/big/419922.jpghttps://myanimeshelf.com//upload/dynamic/2016-02/08/390704%D0%BC1.jpg
https://media.archonia.com/images/samples/60/79/266079_s3.jpg

[kari-no-sugata II]

There's a bit of a tradition of having "high school" alternative universe comic versions of mecha series. So I started wondering what such a thing would look like for this series. The ED even gives us JK versions of the girls:
https://img4.goodfon.com/wallpaper/big/5/be/darling-in-the-frankxx-devushki-anime-seryi-fon.jpg

Goro and Ichigo would be the class-reps. 02 would be a transfer student with a terrible reputation with men, etc (It might be tempting to make 02 look gal-ish or otherwise "slutty" but I think this would be a mistake given that we generally see her properly wearing her uniform).

It gets a bit harder to work the pilot pairing into a school scenario but let's say they're all part of the tennis club and they're playing mixed doubles. Let's say that they were all practising in singles before and then the club was required to only do mixed doubles. Hiro, who was the star up to that point, then struggled with the pairing assigned to him.

If we make such a comparison, perhaps it becomes a bit clearer how unusual the piloting pairing is in practice. It's not like the kids get much real practice with it as apparently the simulators are very different to the real thing. The pairs are all enforced/moderated by the "teachers" as well as the kids don't get to decide their own pairings and need permission even to do a simple test of an alternative pairing. Even in an emergency the teachers rarely allow anything which hasn't gone through proper procedures.


PS I hope we can get a sub-forum for this series. There's plenty to discuss at least.

[_Ninja_]

Provided Zero Two isn't actually heartless. Imagine what she must be feeling before their third time. Other characters talk about the dreaded third ride but she lived it again and again. She may finally have her partner or be left alone again.

[Kanon]

I'm pretty sure Zero Two isn't heartless, she's just build a wall around her due to everything she experienced. Right now, even though she calls him her Darling and seems fond of Hiro, she still hasn't really let him into her heart because she's well aware of the possibility he might die. She's careful not showing any weakness, but a lot will change if she gains a permanent partner.

[kari-no-sugata II]

Provided Zero Two isn't actually heartless. Imagine what she must be feeling before their third time. Other characters talk about the dreaded third ride but she lived it again and again. She may finally have her partner or be left alone again.

When she said "bye bye" to Hiro in ep 4, she certainly wasn't being heartless. It felt almost like she was about to cry.

She probably finds it easier to be colder around others. Also, what she said to Ichigo is somewhat of a cliché phrase. Rather than "But that'd just mean he didn't amount to much" the meaning is more like "But that'd just mean that was all he could achieve" (that's where his limits were), though yes it's not a nice way to say it. It's a bit like saying "If he dies then it would be proof that he wasn't good enough". It certainly doesn't mean she wouldn't care if he dies though. It also rather implies (given the other things that she has said and done) that she hopes he does succeed but is prepared for the worst.

It's also worth bearing in mind that in ep1 near the end that 02 did not simply drag Hiro into the cockpit. She had already asked him to be her darling (partner) earlier in the ep but she never forced him. If she really didn't care then she would likely have simply dragged him into the cockpit whether he liked it or not. Not only did she not do that she didn't even ask or hint at Hiro joining her. She simply said what she was going to do. It was only when Hiro asked that her attitude changed. Even her somewhat callous dumping of her previous partner outside the cockpit could be seen as her giving him a chance to survive - if she didn't care then why not leave him in the cockpit.

(I'm not saying 02 is an angel or something silly like that. She definitely has her issues. However, her sometimes bad attitude and callousness needs to be seen in the context of the story and what we can reasonably guess about her past. I don't think she'd have been like this in a nicer environment)


Thinking ahead to ep 6...

We might get one or more of the following: Hiro giving 02 a name. Hiro giving 02 a kiss. Hiro collapsing mid-battle due to the stress/feedback.

I also had the following idea: Hiro's health problems are put down to a high yellow blood cell count, and that being the opposite of normal. If 02 normally sucks those up (or something) during piloting then it might be that Hiro will actually need to pilot with 02 to survive. ie she'd drain the excess yellow blood cells during piloting which would help Hiro stay healthy. Would be an interesting turn-about.

[shadow1296]

I'd ship it (https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=67251597)

[AB079]

Have some crossover.

https://preview.ibb.co/k1TLWS/67230615_p0.jpg

[foxbox360]

I'd ship it (https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=67251597)

I ship it too:D

[Cosmic Eagle]

Something about what 02 says.....At first I thought she simply views the whole thing from a philosophical standpoint, that it's better to die free as a prson with the full human experience than a caged bird, thus her disdain for everyone around her. But what if she means it literally? That biologically, she's actually more human than everyone else? Sure feels like that's quite possible now. I mean it seems that all the pilots have a set lifespan and never live long enough to adulthood

Also, Papa-ism is the most ridiculous creed ever

In other words, nobody cares if a girl is incredibly sadistic, cares about no one, is a bitch to everyone, kind to no one, treats her "darling" like a possession, and generally acts like a self entitled spoiled brat, and has zero redeeming qualities, because as long as she's hot....

As usual, being hot is the only thing that matters to people. Now excuse me while I rinse my brain as I try to forget I am the same species as these people.


I struggle to see why what others' preferences are should affect yourself that much. Let others like what they like

[kampfer91]

May be 02 just want to be accepted as human ? She always behave a bit hostile if someone say something about her inhuman blood .
I bet next episode we will see Hiro passed out during the battle and she gone rouge .

@Cosmic eagle : same thing happened when people arguing about Esdeath / Mine in Akame ga kill , i like Esdeath though .

[Dengar]

Okay, I haven't been able to respond for a while, but what I could gather from people's responses is that they do not necessarily forgive her behavior or her remorseless killing of her co-pilots, but rather that they are interested in her as a character.

Okay that's fine, I think she's 'interesting', as well... Except people then immediately start contradicting themselves when they are constantly "waifu-ing" or "best girl-ing" her.

[Faux Mecha]

I'd ship it (https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=67251597)

that or with Tauburn or the Earth Engine from Captain Earth (both happened to be from BONES shows).

[Dengar]

Oh I forgot to mention. Re: "Why are these kids called parasites?"

While I of course can only assume, since most people seem to be in agreement that everything in this show is symbolic for something, the simplest explanation as to why they are named such is because they're children.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Oh I forgot to mention. Re: "Why are these kids called parasites?"

While I of course can only assume, since most people seem to be in agreement that everything in this show is symbolic for something, the simplest reason for the reason they are named such is because they're children.

Doesn't seem to make much sense given how they're also the military. As opposed to our kind of children, these are certainly doing their part to earn their share of food and shelter :p.

[Irenesharda]

Doesn't seem to make much sense given how they're also the military. As opposed to our kind of children, these are certainly doing their part to earn their share of food and shelter :p.

Well yes and no. And old saying is that "a baby is expensive" it takes a heck of a lot simply to get a single human child to the point that they are even able to possibly survive independently.

If you really think about it, most of these children might not even get to the point where they are piloting Franxx. Remember back a few episodes ago and they talked about all the children in the Garden? None of them are soldier/pilots. And all that care does go into raising them regardless. For every single one of these kids, they have had the best of everything, the best food, the best training, the best environment, the best education, everything laid out for them for at least 13-16 years before they actually become pilots. That's a lot of time and resources. More so than most militaries would ever give.

And what about all those who didn't make the cut, they can't pay back all those resources and time that was sunk into them. So, while it does seem a bit cold, I can see where he's getting at in regards to them being called parasites because they're children.

However, I also have the feeling that the series does have another meaning in mind in this case.

[Dengar]

Well, there's that. And also unborn children are parasites in the literal sense.

[Gan_HOPE326]

So, while it does seem a bit cold, I can see where he's getting at in regards to them being called parasites because they're children.

However, I also have the feeling that the series does have another meaning in mind in this case.

Well, this society is cold to them, so that would be believable. But I'm on the "different meaning" camp too IMHO, I'd be surprised if it doesn't somehow tie in with the plant motif.

[James Rye]

Oh I forgot to mention. Re: "Why are these kids called parasites?"

While I of course can only assume, since most people seem to be in agreement that everything in this show is symbolic for something, the simplest explanation as to why they are named such is because they're children.

What if they don't call the children themselves parasites but what's inside them? Basically the children are just vessels for the "parasites", probably something Klaxosaurus-related that makes it possible to ride the Franxxx mechas to begin with, but since those parasites are intertwined with the children forever, the children get called parasites as well to make sure nobody forgets about dangerous those children actually are. Which also might be the reason why the children aren't allowed to enter the city though I doubt it is something that can be transferred over.

[kari-no-sugata II]

In this world, parasites = official pilots. Hiro is not currently an official parasite.

[Anh_Minh]

I think they're "parasites" because the robots are alive somehow. They're the hosts.

that or with Tauburn or the Earth Engine from Captain Earth (both happened to be from BONES shows).
There was that fanart that presented Strelizia as Tauburn's little sister... which, come to think of it, is no bar to shipping.

I'm pretty sure Zero Two isn't heartless, she's just build a wall around her due to everything she experienced. Right now, even though she calls him her Darling and seems fond of Hiro, she still hasn't really let him into her heart because she's well aware of the possibility he might die. She's careful not showing any weakness, but a lot will change if she gains a permanent partner.

I think she's just much more fatalistic than Ichigo. Ichigo still thinks there's something she, or 02, can do to save Hiro. 02 thinks (knows?) he can either pilot and probably die, or not pilot and almost certainly die.

[PentingWolf]

The robots are alive somehow.
because the girls are neuro-linking with the Mech during the connection process between Stamen and Pistil. In other words, the Pistil girl becomes one with the franxx.

I think she's just much more fatalistic than Ichigo. Ichigo still thinks there's something she, or 02, can do to save Hiro. 02 thinks (knows?) he can either pilot and probably die, or not pilot and almost certainly die.
Well, both Ichigo and Gorou have the right to get worried about Hiro's safety, since they're his friends. But they also need to realize that is selfish for them to want to him to live the rest of his life in shame, being treated like an outcast for not being able to do the only thing that makes those children worthy. None of them experienced what he felt when he lost everything, his position as leader and as prodigy, the respect of his friends, his dream of being able to pilot the FranXX. Hiro was feeling miserable and 02 was the only person who gave him the chance to go back to be what he was before, to realize his dream. He decided that was better die happy while realizing his dream than to live while feeling helpless. That's why he never once blamed 02 for what is happening to him. She gave him the chance but he was the one who made the decision.

I found some information in another forum.

https://i.imgur.com/aPdbSqI.jpg

- Strelizia’s beast mode is activated when 02 devours the Stamen (when stamen is nearly dying).

- When the Pistil is piloting the franxx alone, the robot interface isn’t actived and the pistil’s body works normally.

- Hiro was really piloting Strelizia in episode 1, and He fainted getting unconscious after Strelizia gave the finishing blow, once the robot interface is active and 02 speaks via the robot interface confirming that the connection between Stamen and Pistil was active.

It must also be stressed that there is no physical contact or exchange of body fluids during the entire connection process between Stamen and Pistil, and the whole connection process between Stamen and Pistil is made mentally with stamen connecting to the Pistil's mind with the butt controls, It is also important to remember that the Pistil's body remains on stand-by and immovable during the whole connection between them, which is why Pistil communicates with Stamen via the robot interface in the monitor, evenif she right there in front of you.

[Keila]

It is also important to remember that the Pistil's body remains on stand-by and immovable during the whole connection between them, which is why Pistil communicates with Stamen via the robot interface in the monitor, evenif she right there in front of you.

Episode 2 (when they initialize and do the training/test) would suggest otherwise.

[kari-no-sugata II]

- Strelizia’s beast mode is activated when 02 devours the Stamen (when stamen is nearly dying).

What we saw in ep1 is referred to as スタンピード・モード (stampede mode) which is explained as such:
フランクスが操縦者の制御を離れ、形状が変形、暴走状態となった場合を指す。

Translation: Refers to the situation where the FranXX breaks away from the control of the pilot, its shape deforms and it goes on a rampage.

Source: http://darli-fra.jp/keyword/

I don't think this is particular to 02 and could happen with any FranXX - we might see it in the next ep with others, for example.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVM0AQxVMAE3e-R.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV_SdnjUMAAXA9B.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV_K_ufUMAA4JQr.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV2FR-4UQAAbufS.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw7B81VwAIgAfD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVrtiJFVoAEmMh8.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUKU8_VAAAwRQv.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUtmwLDVwAAiwo7.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUjnMCPU0AE4RDv.jpg

[PentingWolf]

What we saw in ep1 is referred to as スタンピード・モード (stampede mode) which is explained as such:


Translation: Refers to the situation where the FranXX breaks away from the control of the pilot, its shape deforms and it goes on a rampage.

Source: http://darli-fra.jp/keyword/

Yes, I read that too, what happens when stamen is nearly dying. That is why ''parents'' were more or less aware of what was happening.

I don't think this is particular to 02 and could happen with any FranXX - we might see it in the next ep with others, for example.
Yes, Probably when one of the Stamens involved are nearly dying.

[Twi]

What we saw in ep1 is referred to as スタンピード・モード (stampede mode) which is explained as such:


Translation: Refers to the situation where the FranXX breaks away from the control of the pilot, its shape deforms and it goes on a rampage.

Source: http://darli-fra.jp/keyword/

I don't think this is particular to 02 and could happen with any FranXX - we might see it in the next ep with others, for example.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVM0AQxVMAE3e-R.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV_SdnjUMAAXA9B.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV_K_ufUMAA4JQr.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV2FR-4UQAAbufS.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw7B81VwAIgAfD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVrtiJFVoAEmMh8.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUKU8_VAAAwRQv.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUtmwLDVwAAiwo7.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUjnMCPU0AE4RDv.jpg


That panty-and-stocking art style works a little too well.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Japanese Comic Ranking, February 5-11

DARLING in the FRANKXX 1 sold 42,540 totalizing 94,466 copies.

[DevilHighDxD]

Btw I hear that the Chinese DiTF fans went apeshit after the ban and start reporting everything in hoping that they also get banned (Citrus, Overlord, and etc...). Thankfully they aren't successful, but the butthurt is real. The reporter who reported DiTF to the authority has his/her information posted all over the Chinese internet.

[DemonneoPT]

Wait, China banned this anime? O_o

[RDNexus]

It was mentioned here a few posts ago.
It seems their priorities, when it comes to banhammers, are all over the place...as usual...

[Cosmic Eagle]

The reporter who reported DiTF to the authority has his/her information posted all over the Chinese internet.

Link? For research

It was mentioned here a few posts ago.
It seems their priorities, when it comes to banhammers, are all over the place...as usual...

Must be due to nudity

[DevilHighDxD]

Link? For research

That was during a day or two after the announcement, I think now the threads and the posts on weibo got deleted.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5539691226

They are flying over to Hong Kong just to see their beloved wife (02) now, so yeah, you can just imagine the initial outburst to the announcement.

[Cosmic Eagle]

At least Hangzhou to HK isn't that far....

[blakstealth]

Episode 6 preview eng-subtitled:

https://www.facebook.com/darli.fra/videos/297395117456436/

no region block

[PentingWolf]

Episode 6 preview - [eng-sub] Title: Darling in the FranXX

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Note: The episode title uses フランクス (used for the mechs), while the show title uses フランキス.

[kampfer91]

Eh , so what is the translation of the next ep tittle ? surely it can't be darling in the franxx.

[AB079]

We can expect lots of battles next episode, maybe some deaths?

[Funkatron]

Translation of the preview, from reddit:
You belong to me.
I love the way you taste.
It's true, all the weaklings so far have died.
But that was to be expected, wasn't it?
Besides, you are special so everything will be fine.
Won't you believe in me, Darling?

Title Drop - Darling in the FranXX

Death flags flying everywhere. Way to stack the deck, 02

Also this seems to be another Trigger episode

[Gan_HOPE326]

Translation of the preview, from reddit:


Death flags flying everywhere. Way to stack the deck, 02

Also this seems to be another Trigger episode

Whoa, that sounds heavy. I'm beginning to wonder if 02 won't fully transition into yandere at some point :heh:.

[Kuroageha]

Previews have never been meant to be taken literally.
Why it should be now?

[Gan_HOPE326]

Previews have never been meant to be taken literally.
Why it should be now?

I don't think it's going to be literal as in ALL dying, but it certainly sounds like shit might get rough, and 02 sounds ever more encroaching/possessive.

[Twi]

The facebook translation video basically states it in the context that all the other people who have ridden with her have died because they were weak, but she's sure that he's special and so he needs to put his trust in her. Rather than take it literal, more so since she doesn't care about the others, it's probably just safer to assume she's reassuring Hiro that he won't die because she chose him to ride with her.

Besides, if they were going to kill anyone, we know it'd be the other Plantation's first.

[Dengar]

Would be funny if a show ever had the guts to get you acquainted with a main cast and then kill them all off about 6 episodes in and be like "lol no now follow these guys instead".

[jwai]

Would be funny if a show ever had the guts to get you acquainted with a main cast and then kill them all off about 6 episodes in and be like "lol no now follow these guys instead".

Game of Thrones?

[AB079]

Considering the nature of the show is pretty obvious that random characters like the kids introduced on the previous episode (the ones saying that 02 left some of them to die) will be dead soon, probably in the next episode.

What I want to see is someone from the main cast getting killed, after all they are a group that knows each other for long time, the loss of one of the members can be a used as a good break point in the story offering some interesting developments.

[SeijiSensei]

Would be funny if a show ever had the guts to get you acquainted with a main cast and then kill them all off about 6 episodes in and be like "lol no now follow these guys instead".

Nijuu Mensou no Musume has this to a degree. The heroine survives though.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Would be funny if a show ever had the guts to get you acquainted with a main cast and then kill them all off about 6 episodes in and be like "lol no now follow these guys instead".

had the guts

guts

https://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/images/characters/9/347984.jpg

[Trung-t-rung]

Would be funny if a show ever had the guts to get you acquainted with a main cast and then kill them all off about 6 episodes in and be like "lol no now follow these guys instead".

Total Eclipse kind of did that. But probably not Darlifra since it places heavily on the characters to make it work.

[Solace]

I'll just cut off this particular discussion tangent and say yes, they exist, and no, we won't spoil them here. If people want suggestions for shows like that, we have a Reviews and Recommendations Forum (https://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=161).

[ScrewySquirrel]

What is it about the obsession that main characters die in a show where its obvious they won't?

It happened all through Little Witch Academia, and again here.

None of the main 10 characters is going to die anytime soon, because this is a show about relationships. How do you explore relationships if you kill off one of the relationships?

It would be like asking Tsuredure Children or GAMERS! to murder half its cast.

[Blueknight78]

What is it about the obsession that main characters die in a show where its obvious they won't?

It happened all through Little Witch Academia, and again here.

None of the main 10 characters is going to die anytime soon, because this is a show about relationships. How do you explore relationships if you kill off one of the relationships?

It would be like asking Tsuredure Children or GAMERS! to murder half its cast.

we are on the age of the "grey, where series without killing characters is not fun and good and evil don't work anymore and you must have "for the great good" sacrifices where aslong is to save more "lifes" killing others can be justified.

peoples are getting so tired of the "political rightrouss" and social justice which now you can be "evil" as long you are fighting against social justice lol.

now being serious well peoples really think which a show is more "fun" or more realistic of peoples die and series where no one dies is "too childish" and boring".

[RDNexus]

Since it is a fictional story, anything seems to be allowed. I don't like that kind of thinking :mad:

[AB079]

What is it about the obsession that main characters die in a show where its obvious they won't?

It happened all through Little Witch Academia, and again here.

None of the main 10 characters is going to die anytime soon, because this is a show about relationships. How do you explore relationships if you kill off one of the relationships?

It would be like asking Tsuredure Children or GAMERS! to murder half its cast.

For years all what we get for the most part are characters with a huge plot armor that no matter what happens they survive everything. That is just lazy writing and a waste of a decent plot device that can improve the character development of the main cast quite a bit, same for the story (there are exceptions of course).

There are series that did the opposite like Gundam IBO where the death of relevant characters and some main ones have a huge impact in the series and on the rest of the characters, providing a more enjoyable experience.

In DarliFra you have kids that are literally raised as weapons, they lack any type of common sense or the standard knowledge about human relationships, things like what's been happening with 02 and Hiro are changing them in some way but they've never experienced death, only the death of some random guy. Using a little bit of logic after understanding such basic element of the series already shows you that here with all the battles coming and the danger, someone will die no matter what, especially since the feelings of these kids are coming out in different ways, probably affecting their performance in battle leading to some fatal incidents, there you have Ichigo, Mitsuru, Hiro and to some extent 02.

If the Director is smart he will use the death of a memeber of the main cast as a plot device that can improve the characters quite a bit instead of falling for the same bullshit "oh here it comes X character to save the day and avoid every single death!" which is honestly, one of the most tiresome cliches ever.

[RDNexus]

But why must death be a relevant element for a more compelling story?
There must be other ways to make it do without having to rely on death.

[Blueknight78]

For years all what we get for the most part are characters with a huge plot armor that no matter what happens they survive everything. That is just lazy writing and a waste of a decent plot device that can improve the character development of the main cast quite a bit, same for the story (there are exceptions of course).

There are series that did the opposite like Gundam IBO where the death of relevant characters and some main ones have a huge impact in the series and on the rest of the characters, providing a more enjoyable experience.

In DarliFra you have kids that are literally raised as weapons, they lack any type of common sense or the standard knowledge about human relationships, things like what's been happening with 02 and Hiro are changing them in some way but they've never experienced death, only the death of some random guy. Using a little bit of logic after understanding such basic element of the series already shows you that here with all the battles coming and the danger, someone will die no matter what, especially since the feelings of these kids are coming out in different ways, probably affecting their performance in battle leading to some fatal incidents, there you have Ichigo, Mitsuru, Hiro and to some extent 02.

If the Director is smart he will use the death of a memeber of the main cast as a plot device that can improve the characters quite a bit instead of falling for the same bullshit "oh here it comes X character to save the day and avoid every single death!" which is honestly, one of the most tiresome cliches ever.
you can turn that logic in the other way too and having peoples "dying to improve" others characters is another "over used cliche" for many years in the end all are just cliches and is about "tates" what are the "cliches" which you like more and the ones you like less or hate or hate more.

[Haak]

It would be like asking Tsuredure Children or GAMERS! to murder half its cast.

I don't think anybody in Tsurezure Children had such a dangerous profession as piloting giant robots in order to fight giant monsters. Don't know about Gamers.

I don't know man. Seems kinds weird having characters live such a dangerous life and constantly have them talk like death is just around the corner (especially for one particular character), if you're not trying to go for at least some sort of tension. Now it is true that they don't have to necessarily die but I'm sure you can understand that some viewers have seen that kind of writing one too many times and perceive it as a little "safe".

Of course, I don't think it would make any difference if any of the side character were to die (especially the chubby one). A more daring outcome would be to have Zero Two/Ichigo/Hiro die.

[AB079]

you can turn that logic in the other way too and having peoples "dying to improve" others characters is another "over used cliche" for many years in the end all are just cliches and is about "tates" what are the "cliches" which you like more and the ones you like less or hate or hate more.

And you're not even getting the point.

It's all about execution, the usual cliche of everyone having an insane plot amor that let them survive everything stopped working long time ago. Meanwhile on the other hand characters dying is another cliche as you said but on many series the execution is what change things a lot, especially for the development of the characters and the story.

You don't have to be a genius to see that characters will die here, what people is saying is that it can be interesting watching part of the main cast dying, what the director is going to do with that type of developments? nobody knows but if is managed in a proper way it can be a possitive thing for the series.

[Blueknight78]

And you're not even getting the point.

It's all about execution, the usual cliche of everyone having an insane plot amor that let them survive everything stopped working long time ago. Meanwhile on the other hand characters dying is another cliche as you said but on many series the execution is what change things a lot, especially for the development of the characters and the story.

You don't have to be a genius to see that characters will die here, what people is saying is that it can be interesting watching part of the main cast dying, what the director is going to do with that type of developments? nobody knows but if is managed in a proper way it can be a possitive thing for the series.

i disagree with you again on that part and feel you are using your personnal taste here, not it "not stopped to work if it really stopped you could not get series still doing that, series like dragon ball which are still aclaimed, it's just about "taste, that is my point.

as you told what is matter is having a good writing skills, in the same way no deaths can be bad executed the same goes for the "death" you can find many series with stupid and pointless deaths just for the sake of the cliche or fanservice or just bad writing, what is matter the writing skills/execution when deaths can be good or no and the same for "non deaths" and in the end what is matter is the "target public and tastes".

[AB079]

i disagree with you again on that part and feel you are using your personnal taste here, not it "not stopped to work if it really stopped you could not get series still doing that, series like dragon ball which are still aclaimed, it's just about "taste, that is my point.

as you told what is matter is having a good writing skills, in the same way no deaths can be bad executed the same goes for the "death" you can find many series with stupid and pointless deaths just for the sake of the cliche or fanservice or just bad writing, what is matter the writing skills/execution when deaths can be good or no and the same for "non deaths" and in the end what is matter is the "target public and tastes".

Do you even know the difference between execution and taste? because you don't understand that or you're just completely ignoring it. Also using Dragon ball as a backup is completely out of place, that is a series that has a huge fanbase for decades, it is popular mainly because of that. This is not about "taste", this is about using something interesting to make the series better.

What matters in this series is what other users already pointed out, it makes sense having characters dying but that's something you can see everywhere, what can be interesting here is watching main ones dying and how in the studio can handle that to make it relevant instead of falling in the same cliche we've seen for years. Everyone surviving is too convenient and boring when is established that they're in a huge war and other people already died because of that.

[shadow1296]

episode 5 analysis by that guy

n7nxHCLGxeg

[Blueknight78]

Do you even know the difference between execution and taste? because you don't understand that or you're just completely ignoring it. Also using Dragon ball as a backup is completely out of place, that is a series that has a huge fanbase for decades, it is popular mainly because of that. This is not about "taste", this is about using something interesting to make the series better.

What matters in this series is what other users already pointed out, it makes sense having characters dying but that's something you can see everywhere, what can be interesting here is watching main ones dying and how in the studio can handle that to make it relevant instead of falling in the same cliche we've seen for years. Everyone surviving is too convenient and boring when is established that they're in a huge war and other people already died because of that.

you want more???, boku no hero, nanatsu no taizan, i can come with a lot of series which follow that "no deaths" or no main character die or characters which die and come back making pointless deaths, dragon ball is just the most classic one and i know the difference what it's look more is like you just don't like peoples not agreeying with you and maybe "only your opnion or peoples which share your opnion matter.

For me as long the death make sense and don't look a asspull ultra cliche i'm fine even if i can get mad for x or y deaths at same time if none die and the story is good enough i'm also fine.

By deaths i means important/relevant characters, not the obvious to death minor characters.

[AB079]

you want more???, boku no hero, nanatsu no taizan, i can come with a lot of series which follow that "no deaths" or no main character die or characters which die and come back making pointless deaths, dragon ball is just the most classic one and i know the difference what it's look more is like you just don't like peoples not agreeying with you and maybe "only your opnion or peoples which share your opnion matter.

For me as long the death make sense and don't look a asspull ultra cliche i'm fine even if i can get mad for x or y deaths at same time if none die and the story is good enough i'm also fine.

By deaths i means important/relevant characters, not the obvious to death minor characters.

I do not recall implying or saying anything of the sort, in fact I'm pointing out elements coming out of the series itself and talking about the execution of that topic while you're resorting to personal attacks and pushing your own taste, doing that invalidated everything you said.

Saying "for me" it means that's what you choose or what you prefer, you're not mentioning anything objective about the current discussion of main characters dying on DarliFra using what the series is giving us as plot or why so many people wants that to happen so the story can take an interest development, nor adressing what other users already mentioned regarding the series and what we got from the PV, which is something I share too.

[Twi]

episode 5 analysis by that guy

He puts it so much work on them. I'm impressed.

[DevilHighDxD]

If we were to go by the Jian's parallel and Strelizia's symbolism, then both 02 and Hiro will die together as a pair. I will be more supportive of that than to have them separated by death and life. But killing them both and especially killing 02 this early is basically "How to Kill This Anime 101". Maybe toward the end, as right now what's happening to Hiro is opposite of what happened to previous partners of 02. Previous 02's partners died so Hiro might survive? Honestly this just 6 episodes in so I don't know why everyone is focusing on deaths so soon. Episode 1 even foreshadowed 02 joining Plantation 13 as she is wearing their uniform along with Hiro. The 26 squad might die though.

[Blueknight78]

I do not recall implying or saying anything of the sort, in fact I'm pointing out elements coming out of the series itself and talking about the execution of that topic while you're resorting to personal attacks and pushing your own taste, doing that invalidated everything you said.

Saying "for me" it means that's what you choose or what you prefer, you're not mentioning anything objective about the current discussion of main characters dying on DarliFra using what the series is giving us as plot or why so many people wants that to happen so the story can take an interest development, nor adressing what other users already mentioned regarding the series and what we got from the PV, which is something I share too.

O.o??? you where the one saying which for a serie to be good "peoples must die" and which peoples not dying is a not more used cliche and bla bla bla, i'm just point different than you.

About this serie so far i'm honestly don't know if imporant peoples really gonna die, i'm already saw a lot of series which death flags being raised just for "tease" too and i know which we also are expeculating over it, so far the most big death flags where hiro and the scum annoying guy which i forget the name but we don't know if they gonna really die and if they dying can be really important.

Yeah as i told while and others must have that sort of taste "not everyone" and normally you talk as if the majority are asking for it and it's not something i really seeying here, while some peoples are asking for that others no, that what means different opnions and tastes.

So far if someone gonna die i feel it's too early for that (again i'm talking about important named characters not random fodders to be killed like the second group) like others "pointed" it's really too early the group need to develop more and even neither op or ed showed any chance of someone dying too soon, maybe later in the second core (this is a 24 episodes right), when the characters are more developed which maybe i can see someone dying but i really feel which is too early even if i wanted the annoying bitch guy dying(forget his name) and even the "fat one" i feel is too early for him, specially because if him die it also means the girl dying cuz she can't be left without him they are paired for that and in the battle is almost impossible only one survive because we know how really hard is for one person alone to pilot the franxx and specially because probably only the girls can do that because they are the "control" if they die first the guy gonna follow in dye because the robot will totally stop without the girl to make it "alive".

[DemonneoPT]

If we were to go by the Jian's parallel and Strelizia's symbolism, then both 02 and Hiro will die together as a pair. I will be more supportive of that than to have them separated by death and life. But killing them both and especially killing 02 this early is basically "How to Kill This Anime 101". Maybe toward the end, as right now what's happening to Hiro is opposite of what happened to previous partners of 02. Previous 02's partners died so Hiro might survive? Honestly this just 6 episodes in so I don't know why everyone is focusing on deaths so soon. Episode 1 even foreshadowed 02 joining Plantation 13 as she is wearing their uniform along with Hiro. The 26 squad might die though.

I would like to think people still care about this anime besides the existence of a certain character or just because they lewd a waifu. I like 02 a lot, but like @AB079 said, if the director manages to do something great and relevant to the plot, watching the main ones dying, is something that could be amazing and benefit the story exponentially. But if people only want to see 02, shippings or the other loli-like girls for other reasons besides the actual plot then i can see why it would be a bad idea to the anime future...

I actually expect to see some deaths tho since this show is about mechas, war, serious stuff and shit! Not exactly the two MCs but at least someone from the main group even if it does not exactly benefit the plot, but at least it's a fitting cliche that would reinforce how dangerous that world is.

[FlareKnight]

I really don't get the feeling that anyone important is going to die any time soon. The other squad they introduced? Oh yeah they are dead. Using the same type of units, barely any characterization outside of the leader with an understandable grudge? Yeah, they are done for.

But Hiro or 02? I just doubt it. This isn't about waifu or fanservice. 02's existence still can involve some interesting world building. Just feels like we are at the start here in terms of understanding her origins (much less what the klaxosaurs are). Seems doubtful they'd kill her off any time soon. And the same goes for Hiro really. What is happening to him has an interesting factor. But if he was just going to die then there wouldn't be much point making his reaction to piloting with 02 so different.

Although I do think killing off the biggest personality in your show can be a rather risky move. It can pay off, but it could just blow up in your face if the rest of the cast can't carry the show.

Not even sure I buy the whole "this is serious so someone is bound to die." This is a show drowning in sexual innuendo and teenage frustration. Not so much 'doom, death, war!' They are more likely to have a shock pregnancy in this show than a major character death :heh:.

[AB079]

What if we get a guilty crown type of ending with Hiro and 02?

[DevilHighDxD]

I would like to think people still care about this anime besides the existence of a certain character or just because they lewd a waifu. I like 02 a lot, but like @AB079 said, if the director manages to do something great and relevant to the plot, watching the main ones dying, is something that could be amazing and benefit the story exponentially. But if people only want to see 02, shippings or the other loli-like girls for other reasons besides the actual plot then i can see why it would be a bad idea to the anime future...

Not just dealing with waifuism in general but just the highlights (from my observation by the reactions of the internet) of this particular anime is carried by the interactions of Hiro and 02. It could be shipping, but the plot also move along with it. Episode one promised viewers that this anime will be Hiro and 02, so the viewers continue on with the anime with that expectations. 02 is not a perfect characters but her premise specifically targeted a audience (the West mostly) that has built up a frustrations from dense protagonist and harem shenanigans/melodramatic love drama. I suspect that this contributed greatly to her popularity given how much the issue above has plagued the mecha genre. It’s why people considered the first half of Death Note better, Hiro’s and 02’s relationships is like the rivalry and struggles of L and Light. I do think the two main casts is harding carrying (02 mostly) the show or else there really not much attractions as the show is fairly generic.

I actually expect to see some deaths tho since this show is about mechas, war, serious stuff and shit! Not exactly the two MCs but at least someone from the main group even if it does not exactly benefit the plot, but at least it's a fitting cliche that would reinforce how dangerous that world is. I think this is the wrong anime for that. :heh:

The other Plantation’s parasites might though

What if we get a guilty crown type of ending with Hiro and 02?
I think episode one sum up their relationship quite clearly, either they both live or both die. The Jian birds fly together or die together.

[DemonneoPT]

But Hiro or 02? I just doubt it. This isn't about waifu or fanservice. 02's existence still can involve some interesting world building. Just feels like we are at the start here in terms of understanding her origins (much less what the klaxosaurs are). Seems doubtful they'd kill her off any time soon. And the same goes for Hiro really. What is happening to him has an interesting factor. But if he was just going to die then there wouldn't be much point making his reaction to piloting with 02 so different.


I can agree with this. It's part of the reason why i enjoy seeing 02 actually. The episode that will reveal her character's origin and the mysteries that come with it will probably be lit af :heh:. My main motivation in this show is exactly that. I find the world interesting and with so much to answer.

When i mentioned for them to die it would not be now since 02 is still not explored enough as a character.

[kari-no-sugata II]

episode 5 analysis by that guy

n7nxHCLGxeg

This guy is crazy.... but in a good way. Maybe I'm crazy myself for watching this. I like his beehive analogy.

It'll be interesting to see where this show goes. I'm not sure if anyone will die in the next episode but it wouldn't be unreasonable. The show hasn't shied from showing injuries for multiple people, and presumably 02's partner from ep 1 died, assuming it was his third time. Might we see Mitsuru start ageing as well?

While character deaths can be a good way to raise the tension, it's something very easy to abuse or use foolishly. If the author casually kills off characters then it can feel like bad writing quite easily - deaths of minor characters simply to raise the tension can backfire or become a joke (the old redshirts problem). I think the most important thing is to make sure there's a sense of tension - that people could die or get injured or otherwise fail. For example, Hiro has a huge death flag over him yet there's also hints that he could survive but we just don't know what the cost will be. He seems calm enough now but what if it's something he couldn't accept?

I expect we'll see some people from plantation 26 die... if not in the next episode then shortly after. Perhaps that will trigger the survivors to lash out at the plantation 13 squad, telling them the dark truth about "children" and "adults".

[Dengar]

I'm fairly sure that the people who are calling for character deaths aren't calling for such to be half-assed. I'm assuming they want these deaths to be impactful and well written.

[hayate-sama]

Hiro blue Tumor x 1 and alot of Kyouryuu, nobody die actually

[kari-no-sugata II]

This episode gives a strong sense of being "the end of the beginning", as it were. A lot of the focus has been on answering things set up in the first episode or two - ie the story went "deep" rather than "wide". There's only been modest amounts of world-building so far but I suspect that from now onwards things will take on a somewhat different flavour.

This episode basically has about 15 minutes of action... but there is some crucial character development, mostly around Hiro - his reasons for wanting to fight were too simple and he was a bit too easily satisfied. So he almost failed because of that. But, with some crucial call backs to ep 1 he realises that 02 is lonely because of her situation, recovers and saves the day. I hope they properly explain later on just what is happening here and why, else it'll feel a bit too much of a cheat. It does seem like he'll be fine from now on, though I wouldn't be surprised if this problem (the blue growth) comes up again.

Heh, where were you all this time, Dr Franxx?

Ichigo blew her last chance, it feels like. She was all set to confess but couldn't manage it in the end. I suspect it'll take some time for her to get over this.

[Stark700]

Incredible episode!

Loaded action with a good amount of psychology and the momentum of the fighting was kept throughout the entire episode. It feels like Hiro finally found a reason to be Zero Two's partner. Btw, did Ichigo friend-zone herself?

I got some TTLG vibes from this episode especially the part when they took down that humanoid klaxosaur. My favorite episode of the season so far.

Kinda wonder who that dude is at the end...

[foxbox360]

Given how this is the end of the prologue and the real story begins next week??

[G0rd0]

guessing that guy at the end might be Hiro new rival

[kari-no-sugata II]

Incredible episode!

Loaded action with a good amount of psychology and the momentum of the fighting was kept throughout the entire episode. It feels like Hiro finally found a reason to be Zero Two's partner. Btw, did Ichigo friend-zone herself?

I got some TTLG vibes from this episode especially the part when they took down that humanoid klaxosaur. My favorite episode of the season so far.

Hot-blooded for sure :)

Kinda feels like the monster of the week stole the show a bit though. Well, I thought it was rather badass at least.


Kinda wonder who that dude is at the end...

Looking at the cast credits, he's probably "9' α" (nine alpha?). He refers to "Nine Iota" and iota is the 9th letter of the greek alphabet. So it looks like within the "Nines" they are referred to from Alpha to Iota and 02 is Iota...?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVV0CayUQAEJIFT.jpg:large

PS Bit surprised 02 didn't seem happier at the end. She felt resigned rather than happy. So, at a guess, simply being with someone longer term isn't her "wish", but something more.

[AB079]

That was an amazing episode, packed with action and feelings from the beginning to the end.

The entire fight showed the difference between common units and the franxx, also it is possible that the rest of the main group can get even more power than we saw here, they have a lot of potential.

Goro as always being the best bro in the series supporting Hiro and ichigo no matter what, I really like how he can keep the mission and his feelings separated. Ichigo literally went straight into the friendzone.

Now the highlights in the fight was how Hiro was able to control the tumor after he reached certain limit, for some reason I'm thinking he's not exactly human, or maybe someone with a special DNA. The way how 02 went crazy after Hiro was out of combat thanks to the tumor was something amazing, we can see how even her body was starting to change, there is a scene where her hands resemble one of a monster with long nails and some weird shape.

Then Hiro finally woke up and supported 02, I love their chemistry and their interactions. Right now they can't live without the other. Lots of TTGL vibes this episode too. I wonder who's that guy at the end... new antagonist?

https://preview.ibb.co/fug36S/ens1.jpg
https://preview.ibb.co/fKqKfn/end.jpg

Bonus: How to enter the friendzone in one episode by Ichigo.

https://preview.ibb.co/mrnRRS/fr.jpg

[wuhugm]

Nine Iota? Wut?

Great episode btw~

What the hell is Franxx anyway? It fully repaired itself in an instant when MC powered up. Or is Sterelizia special?

[AB079]

No wonder why a full mecha fight episode was good.

https://preview.ibb.co/ghLXY7/trig.png

PS Bit surprised 02 didn't seem happier at the end. She felt resigned rather than happy. So, at a guess, simply being with someone longer term isn't her "wish", but something more.

Remember what Dr.Franxx said, Hiro might be able to grant 02's wish so getting a partner like Hiro who's deeply connected to her is the first step.

[kari-no-sugata II]

Remember what Dr.Franxx said, Hiro might be able to grant 02's wish so getting a partner like Hiro who's deeply connected to her is the first step.

That's basically what I was saying but just phrasing it with less certainty :)



Darling, let's camp! (most unexpected cross-over, lol):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWC-I4TU8AAbO6c.jpg:large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVmu4sEVoAA8Y_9.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVmu6QKVQAE6GxD.jpg:large

[RDNexus]

By the end of the episode, both me and my twin brother simply felt like wanting more :D

[mickbis]

Episode 6 is just too gooooood
didn't hype like this for a very long time now

[SeijiSensei]

I felt sad for 02 at the end being ignored by the others like that. It's not like Hiro alone was responsible for what happened.

[shadow1296]

this was such a good episode, it great action and character, it really highlighted 02's character after hiro "died" it's not like she doesn't care about people she feels sadness everytime she loses a partner she has just lost to many and is desensitized , and ichigo is such a moron she literally friendzoning herself even after gobro tried to help her, also if there was any question on whether or not hiro's former partner is alive, yeah she dead otherwise when hiro was dying he wouldn't have seen her spirit

[Wandering Soul]

I felt sad for 02 at the end being ignored by the others like that. It's not like Hiro alone was responsible for what happened.
It's understandable why the team from the other plantation wouldn't want to approach her and everyone else from their team is closer to Hiro, not to mention that they were legitimately worried if he could survive piloting with her a third time. Plus, when she's not interacting with Hiro, 02 does sort of give off this aloof aura to everyone else.

[Funkatron]

Nine Iota? Wut?

Great episode btw~

What the hell is Franxx anyway? It fully repaired itself in an instant when MC powered up. Or is Sterelizia special?

Iota is the 9th letter in the Greek alphabet, so 9 of 9 maybe? That mentioned a 9s group in a earlier episode, which many speculate is the rival team that is in the opening. The question is did he mean 002 or Hiro?

Also if there is a 9 iota, then there is a 9alpha, beta, delta, gamma, etc

[zibi88]

I was wondering what if Nine lota was kinda reffering to the number 90 the captain of plant26, who mentioned that they had many "plant connections" so mostly met other kids from those plants.

Kinda whole time he was dead serious, calling plant13 team dead weight, yelled at 02 of not wanting to work with her, yet here he is alive, talking, thanking and has no ill will towards 02... so maybe the blondie's "look at you hitting it off nine lota" was simply reffering to this captain, as he has gone over his problems.

Those kids maybe are fighters from the frontlines so next episodes they might be training the team in using Franxx better, for sure dr. Franx will inspect Hiro, since even Nana and Hachi cant belive that Hiro came back to life so they might be interested too. Still no idea if the blue cancer went away for good or it turned back to its previous size.

As for Ichigo...she seriously friendzoned herself, but maybe she was unable to understand what she feels, so she throught that those feelings she has are those between siblings yet maybe she will realize it later since right now she is just happy that he is alive and that was the thing that was bugging her mind, just like how it was bugging Goro.

[KPSJ]

Another masterpiece EP I am still #TeamBestgirlIchico (hope trigger pulls a surprise ship at the end or let hiro have a kid with her but die with Zero two) this is anime of the season and will.be in talks for 2018 anime of the year.... off topic but the dub is horrible I hope when they release the box set it will have subs

[Kuroageha]

The part that humoured name was that there was a comment that was like:

"This is the end of the beginning... of Ichigo's suffering that's it"
:heh:

[Olengie]

what a great episode.

[Haak]

I was wondering what if Nine lota was kinda reffering to the number 90 the captain of plant26, who mentioned that they had many "plant connections" so mostly met other kids from those plants.

Kinda whole time he was dead serious, calling plant13 team dead weight, yelled at 02 of not wanting to work with her, yet here he is alive, talking, thanking and has no ill will towards 02... so maybe the blondie's "look at you hitting it off nine lota" was simply reffering to this captain, as he has gone over his problems.

You think this show is going to give that much focus on such forgettable fodder?

I'm just surprised that they're still alive.

[shadow1296]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVV0CayUQAEJIFT.jpg:large


You think this show is going to give that much focus on such forgettable fodder?

I'm just surprised that they're still alive.

well he is in the op next to the guy that said 9 iota, i am surprised no one noticed it yet

[PentingWolf]

Looking at the cast credits, he's probably "9' α" (nine alpha?). He refers to "Nine Iota" and iota is the 9th letter of the greek alphabet. So it looks like within the "Nines" they are referred to from Alpha to Iota and 02 is Iota...?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVV0CayUQAEJIFT.jpg:large



Nine Iota - 9 10 - 910 = 016 upside down and reversed. It's Hiro.

https://i.imgur.com/HxgTgMM.jpg

In the system of Greek numerals, iota has a value of 10. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota ) 9 ''10''

- nine iota
- 9 10
- 910
- 016

910 = 016 upside down and reversed.

Doesn't make sense if it was aimed towards Oni, because she was standing way off from the rest of the group, while Hiro was the one who was being swarmed by everyone.
Similarly, Hiro hasn't had a successful partner before.
Similarly, Oni has already had her fair share of success in combat while this is Hiro's first time(s) doing so.
It makes as much, if not more sense for it to be aimed towards Hiro.

[_Ninja_]

I felt sad for 02 at the end being ignored by the others like that. It's not like Hiro alone was responsible for what happened.
There will be time for bonding now that Zero Two isn't just wandering around searching for a partner.

[Roxanne]

I feel bad for Zero two. She doesnt have any friends and everyone sees her like a monster that is why her life is really very bad :( I hope she will get a happy ending in final episode. And besides, why does Zero two hate kyoryuu? Maybe she is also a kyoryuu
Note; İchigo was sibling zoned :heh:

[Anh_Minh]

this was such a good episode, it great action and character, it really highlighted 02's character after hiro "died" it's not like she doesn't care about people she feels sadness everytime she loses a partner she has just lost to many and is desensitized , and ichigo is such a moron she literally friendzoning herself even after gobro tried to help her, also if there was any question on whether or not hiro's former partner is alive, yeah she dead otherwise when hiro was dying he wouldn't have seen her spirit

His hallucinations prove nothing.

[Sakuratsuki]

Just finished the episode and this episode was great. :heh: Ichigo sibling zoned herself there. Looking forward to see more about the past of 002. This episode clearly explained her behavior so far. Being called a monster and even calling herself a monster, her kinda living an isolated life. All contributed to the current 002. I hope she gets a good ending. Hiro could contribute to that with his new found resolve/goal.

:twitch: That scene at the end, Hiro his states all went back to normal. What in the name of happened there really. Perhaps the feelings he had at that moment that he wanted to help 002 out, realizing the real problems of 002. Triggered perhaps Hiro going like that. his new goal compared to the old one where he said, we do it for Papa and bla bla perhaps also was a trigger for him becoming like that. 002 sowhat went depression mode when Hiro started to talk about how they do it for Papa. What I said last time, 002 is really the one who actually woke up and realized how messed this world really is with Papa sect . That may perhaps explain her isolated attitude/behvior so far. I'm really excited to see how this will develop. As more people mentioned before, I don't think the kids or 002 are the problem but the problem is the world they are living in with Papa as a kind of god.

Looking forward to see what will happen in the next episode even more with the introduction of the new kid at the end.

Edit: well thinking about it it's a coupling system for a reason, so feeling more connected to your partner like Hiro did at the end will perhaps have this kind of effect.

[Twi]

His hallucinations prove nothing.

Yeah, until I see the official report I think that was just him hallucinating. Especially since he didn't actually die.

My other thoughts:

Plantation 26 was well-coordinated, which was something I appreciated, but running out of fuel leaves me wondering just how energy intensive those electric weapons were. The kids kneecapping the giant reminded me of something like from Shadow of the Colossus, so I really thought they had it until the damn thing got back up and hammered them off it. It's not like they have seat-belts in it, so that really should have killed him. They going to have to explain at some point how Hiro willed himself back to life, but that growth reminded me of the Insania Virus from Godannar.

Still, while I'm happy for the win, you know bodies are going to start dropping next time.

[Lukes YGO & WS on YT]

Team 016 were impressive to watch, a huge difference in teamwork compred to our regular cast.

That Klaxosaur is a real tough one.

I'm glad Goro got mad at Ichigo, she really needs to be replaced as leader, her own feelings and emotions are a burden to the team.

I was fearing the worst for Zero Two & Hiro but they somehow came through, even got wings, that was pretty cool.

[PentingWolf]

Nishigori Yamete

https://i.imgur.com/EsRIgwN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/78ktsuo.jpg


Nishigori does it again. :heh::heh::heh:

[germanturkey]

i just noticed that the girls in the background of the nine are muzzled. 02 clones or attempts to replicate her condition?

[Blueknight78]

ok, after watch this episde i really don't know which one is worst if the annoying guy(which somehow calmed down on this episode) or ichigo, man that girl is really a hidrance for the team, she just unable to "move" unlike her partner, she keep putting her feelings above anything and screwing/giving up easy, she is without a doubt the worst leader ever of a team, her partner on other hand really diserves being the leader, ichigo is just your "lovely suffering broken third wheel for the "shipping wars and peoples which love the "loser girl" type in romance, because peoples "feel her sadness and forget how crap her actions are being for the team, she really don't diservers being the leader, even the annoying guy looks like actually trying to do his best in battle, even the fat guy while she only making things worse for her partner, i really can't see myself liking her just because that, she looks like the only character which gonna be forever locked on her "cliche" behaviou and not move up for the sake of idiot and pointless (when the winner is terrible obvious)ship wars which the writers love to do.

While i really loved that episode action and all things ichigo still fighting for the tittle of "worst cliche character ever" cuz so far for a leader she being pretty shit and even for a "pilot, the others girls are doing much better than her, actually almost everyone here is trying while she is trying to stay on that crap situation, really one of the bad characters of this serie.

[Mistyclear]

It’s official Goro is my favorite character in this series, so reliable.
They’re going the route I didn’t want to see with Ichigo, but knew was going to happen anyway.
Mitsuru (is that how his name is spelt?) was unexpectedly reliable this episode as well the loud guy whose name I can never remember. The...sorry for how rude this sounds, I just don’t know his name...er fat guy...that sounds so rude to say ugh.... I still don’t really understand him and his partner, they are kind of just there.

[Haak]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVV0CayUQAEJIFT.jpg:large
You think this show is going to give that much focus on such forgettable fodder?

I'm just surprised that they're still alive.

well he is in the op next to the guy that said 9 iota, i am surprised no one noticed it yet

Huh? Are we talking about the same person? I'm talking about this guy:

https://vgy.me/HxswgO.png
https://vgy.me/SffFIE.png
https://vgy.me/kn0XsY.png


I don't see him in the OP image you quoted.

[SeijiSensei]

everyone else from their team is closer to Hiro, not to mention that they were legitimately worried if he could survive piloting with her a third time. Plus, when she's not interacting with Hiro, 02 does sort of give off this aloof aura to everyone else.
She did save their butts numerous times now, though. They could be more appreciative.

I realize well that 02 is unapproachable, but Hiro's friends need to reach out. Now that he's survived (or whatever happened) his third encounter, I hope they open up to her more.

Do you think Hiro still has the gooey mass on his chest though it retreated from his face? Has it spread?

[shadow1296]

Huh? Are we talking about the same person? I'm talking about this guy:

https://vgy.me/HxswgO.png
https://vgy.me/SffFIE.png
https://vgy.me/kn0XsY.png


I don't see him in the OP image you quoted.

his hair is combed to the side with in the show but he is literally the guy next to blonde one tell me i am not the only one who sees it he is on the left of the picture with his hair covering his right eye

[Haak]

I'm pretty sure that they're different people but if that guy does indeed adopt such an appearance and demeanor then I reckon that alone will increase his relevance several fold. :heh:

[kampfer91]

Anyone find the 3rd form of the huge klaxxosaur is quite hilarious ? Piston movement as weapon lol .

[Arkard]

Ugh that heartbroken look on Ichigo's face when she SELF sibling zones herself and Hiro goes along with it.

[James Rye]

A bit over two minutes in, Goro keeps being the best bro you could ask for. And damn, Ichigo got shot down before she could even confess before on what she believed to be their last or at least Hiro's last battle. "I've always seen you as a sibling." "Same here", god, dude, stop being so dense like a black hole, no sibling would kiss her own bro on his lips (at least no normal sis that is). >.<

Was surprised how nobody died. What exactly is the "fuel" though that the platoon 26 leader 090 was talking about? Wasn't the mechas running on the emotional bond between the girls and boys?
And how did Hiro beat the virus so miraculously back? just by thinking about wanting to be with 02? Really liked the Naomi moment btw. Felt like she did know Hiro quite well, I guess they might have been partners in training before this whole first synchronization try in their Franxxx.

Nice fight though the Klaxosauriers, expect the Gutenberg one, hardly felt like a real threat. More like annoying cockroaches. Gj for Platoon 13, they had some moments to shine on like Zorome/Miku saving the leader of Platoon 26 or Mitsu/Ikuno helping Kokoro/....Big Guy up and ofc Goro&Ichigo leading the team and keeping everyone focused on the goal. Looked like Goro had succeed in making Ichigo come back to her senses given her Mecha face was already online when Hiro revived. Really hope best bro Goro doesn't die in this series. Gobro for life, man! He gotta stay alive!

[Arkard]

What exactly is the "fuel" though that the platoon 26 leader 090 was talking about? Wasn't the mechas running on the emotional bond between the girls and boys?

They have pills for that :uhoh:

[Freya]

Wonder where Dr. Franxxx has been this whole time and *boop* just pops out of nowhere this episode lol.

[Kanon]

I couldn't help but laugh when Hiro innocently replied "me too" when Ichigo told him she always thought of him as a sibling. Talk about digging your own grave :heh:
As much as I like Ichigo, I don't think she is fit to be the leader of their team. She's too emotional. Hiro was originally supposed to be the leader of the team, so I wonder if they'll give him the position back now that he has proven himself to be a worthy Parasite.

As expected, Hiro turned out to be fine, even if it was a close call. It's great he's found a new reason to live. I'm looking forward to seeing his relationship with Zero Two develop.

What was rather unexpected was that none of the guys from plant 26 bit the bullet. They had fodder written all over them, so I thought for sure one of them would die. They have great teamwork, but they're pretty weak. It always took the five of them to take down just one of those small Klaxosaur. In comparison, Strelizia was able to kill half a dozen of them in one blow, though that's not a fair comparison since it's special. The others seemed to be able to handle them one on one just fine though.

The ending was rather intriguing. I thought the codename 9 iota referred to Hiro as well. He's received special treatment since the start, so I guess it makes sense he would have a secret codename.

[James Rye]

@Blueknight78
You gonna love this pic then:


https://i.imgur.com/Xq90Swa.jpg


I dunno if Hiro/02 would make a good leader combo. Both have a tendency to ignore orders and authority. Plus they are such a strong one-man&one-woman-team that they need no other mechas for their fights expect for the final strike against the boss monster. Seems like the other four mechs are reduced to only be a support role for Strezilia while Strezilia kills everything which is a bit lame. Hope those guys can take care of Klaxosaurier on their own soon. And for that they need to work on their teamwork! If they are not as strong as Strezilia then they need to be a team to take down foes they can't beat alone!

[Blueknight78]

@Blueknight78
You gonna love this pic then:


https://i.imgur.com/Xq90Swa.jpg


I dunno if Hiro/02 would make a good leader combo. Both have a tendency to ignore orders and authority. Plus they are such a strong one-man&one-woman-team that they need no other mechas for their fights expect for the final strike against the boss monster. Seems like the other four mechs are reduced to only be a support role for Strezilia while Strezilia kills everything which is a bit lame. Hope those guys can take care of Klaxosaurier on their own soon. And for that they need to work on their teamwork! If they are not as strong as Strezilia then they need to be a team to take down foes they can't beat alone!

lol, really this picture sums ichigo for me, so far as a team leader she is being pretty useless, even for a pilot if i was in goro place i could start to worry about myself if i need to put that girl back in sense on every bad time because she is totally unable to avoid her "emotions" and panick and freeze, i really could start to think in get "another partner" cuz we are seeying who is the "weakness on the team".

[blakstealth]

How did Hiro cure/treat his AIDS?!?!?!?!

[kampfer91]

How did Hiro cure/treat his AIDS?!?!?!?!

Same as many shounnen jump heroes : WILLPOWAAAA.

But may be because of 02's butt , who know :heh:

[thundrakkon]

From previous episodes, we already know that Hiro is considered the "special specimen." This indicates that he has been modified in some way that is different from the others. What that is, we currently don't know yet. In the previous episode, when he rode with 002, they said his yellow blood cell count went up, which is the polar opposite of her previous partners.

Therefore, so far, we know that he is a special specimen, who produces more yellow blood cell in reaction to 002. They all play a reason into why he was able to control that blue mass when he "mixed" with her. That blue mass probably has to do with her half Klaxosaur blood, since they produce blue blood. In conclusion, since he is a special specimen, he probably has a modification in him that allows him to contain that blue mass that is produced when mixing with 002's blood.

[Irenesharda]

Nice episode and felt like the completion to an arc. The more this series goes on, the more it continues to solidify itself as a typical shonen mech series. Complete with the MC getting determinator powers and his will that is stronger than everyone else's will, through the power epic gestures and grand screams, overcomes every odd and gets the job done. :heh:

So Zero Two is your standard hurt and alone "bakemono" who needs some TLC and loyal friends and she will find herself out of her "I don't care about anyone" funk in no time.
I had hoped that this series would be a little more unique and take some more twists and turns rather than just more of the same time worn cliches. I guess it can still happen, Kill la Kill was pretty standard stuff in the beginning and only became interesting in its second half, so let's see if Darling in the Franxx can do the same.

The scene in the cockpit did a lot to help humanize 02, and I like her a bit more than I did before. She's still got issues but they'll be fine in time. Hiro was interesting to start, but he's beginning to get pretty bland. I'm assuming as others did, that he'll just get a power-up of some kind. Whatever :rolleyes:

Goro was honestly the MVP of the episode, how he was able to push Ichigo on, helped everyone else keep on their toes and stay encouraged. He's the great support that Ichigo needs as a leader, and honestly, a relationship like theirs (once they get it started) is much more real and much more healthy that Hiro/02 is right now. So, it will be interesting to see when Ichigo is finally able to reclass her relationship with Hiro (as the brother I'm still pretty positive he is) and maybe see the guy she's had by her side all this time. :D

It was really cool seeing the other team's teamwork and I hope our home team was taking notes and NOT just taking it as some personal slight. Of course the other team is much better than you are. Rather than arguing and chatting during battle and going through teenage ridiculousness, they are coordinating, working as a team, and supporting each other. While they pulled it together in the end, they really need to practice more in order to become a better unit.

I see Dr. Franxx has show up after being absent for episodes at a time, probably just in time for some kind of exposition next episode. Also, we meet the set of white colored pilots as well. It's going to be interesting seeing what they can do.

[Kazu-kun]

I had hoped that this series would be a little more unique and take some more twists and turns rather than just more of the same time worn cliches. I guess it can still happen

You're kidding, right? This show screamed generic from the get go. You're setting yourself up for disappointment.

[ScrewySquirrel]

this was such a good episode, it great action and character, it really highlighted 02's character after hiro "died" it's not like she doesn't care about people she feels sadness everytime she loses a partner she has just lost to many and is desensitized , and ichigo is such a moron she literally friendzoning herself even after gobro tried to help her, also if there was any question on whether or not hiro's former partner is alive, yeah she dead otherwise when hiro was dying he wouldn't have seen her spirit

personally, I think the pain and anguish we heard from Zero Two was about Hiro apparently not making it. He was the first to trust her, to not be terrified of her or her horns, to treat her like a human. He wasn't just her partner, he was her darling. She loved him, and invested a lot into him, emotionally. His not making it tore her apart in ways that "Juicebox-kun" didn't. She was nowhere near this anguished when her previous partner died.

[Malicre]

Honestly i love the show and i know it has a bad plot and its cliche as hell but i love the music, its kinda like gundam seed when the piano music plays at the right time which takes it to another level. When that song played at the end i was like damn the emotions........

Wish i could find more anime that had piano scores like that.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Fun episode. Really enjoyable and I have a good time with it.

Still, this is a fun-but-predictable episode for me. Of course Hiro will survive his third battle with 02. In fact, I think Franxx borrowed this whole "dead after third mission" thing from other sources like Gundam 08th MS Team. Yeah, remember our boy Terry Sanders Jr. (http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Terry_Sanders_Jr.) who has a "curse" of causing the deaths of his teammates always in his third mission? But then the protags survived it and dispel the curse? And this is back in the 90s. Sounds a bit familiar isn't it? :heh:

What was rather unexpected was that none of the guys from plant 26 bit the bullet. They had fodder written all over them, so I thought for sure one of them would die. They have great teamwork, but they're pretty weak. It always took the five of them to take down just one of those small Klaxosaur. In comparison, Strelizia was able to kill half a dozen of them in one blow, though that's not a fair comparison since it's special. The others seemed to be able to handle them one on one just fine though.I expected the 26 squad to be the GM Squad of this verse last episode, but after looking at them now, they're more like the Jesta Squad, down to the color of their mech's body and visor:
https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/ban/ban971077_box_1485108668.jpg?v=1485108668
https://snag.gy/RtTb4F.jpg
Even though they're not as powerful as the protags, they'll get the smaller jobs done. And they can still get killed. Heh, yet another Gundam callback. Maybe there's more to come, especially after Sai got reincarnated into Goro in this show :heh:.

[Irenesharda]

Still, this is a fun-but-predictable episode for me. Of course Hiro will survive his third battle with 02. In fact, I think Franxx borrowed this whole "dead after third mission" thing from other sources like Gundam 08th MS Team. Yeah, remember our boy Terry Sanders Jr. (http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Terry_Sanders_Jr.) who has a "curse" of causing the deaths of his teammates always in his third mission? But then the protags survived it and dispel the curse? And this is back in the 90s. Sounds a bit familiar isn't it? :heh:

Even though they're not as powerful as the protags, they'll get the smaller jobs done. And they can still get killed. Heh, yet another Gundam callback. Maybe there's more to come, especially after Sai got reincarnated into Goro in this show :heh:.

Well, that's not really that surprising. About 85% of mecha series borrow from Gundam in some form or another. It's to the mecha genre what Star Wars and Star Trek are to the sci-fi genre. :p

And actually Goro reminds me a bit more of Haruto's friend in VVV (his name is blanking on me by the blue mech's pilot). I almost felt like because of the huge cast and that there wasn't really much for him to do, that after Flay was done with him and he had that episode in the Strike that Sai kind of fell off the map of the series and he because a background character. While he was sort of a bro to Kira, it didn't seem to the same point as Goro is. But I think that that might be that while Hiro has really just Goro as his main guy friend support, Kira had about 3 or 4 to lean on as the show went on.

You're kidding, right? This show screamed generic from the get go. You're setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm being hopeful. :heh: I'm hoping this show is more of Kill la Kill in that it will surprise me, and less like Captain Earth where I was waiting the entire series for something to happen and did indeed set myself up for disappointment.

Nine Iota - 9 10 - 910 = 016 upside down and reversed. It's Hiro.

https://i.imgur.com/HxgTgMM.jpg

In the system of Greek numerals, iota has a value of 10. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota ) 9 ''10''

- nine iota
- 9 10
- 910
- 016

910 = 016 upside down and reversed.

Doesn't make sense if it was aimed towards Oni, because she was standing way off from the rest of the group, while Hiro was the one who was being swarmed by everyone.
Similarly, Hiro hasn't had a successful partner before.
Similarly, Oni has already had her fair share of success in combat while this is Hiro's first time(s) doing so.
It makes as much, if not more sense for it to be aimed towards Hiro.

I don't know why this is even a question. :confused: Of course they are talking about Hiro. They've already given us plenty of clues that Hiro is a much bigger deal then he thinks of himself as. The higher ups keep talking about him, the summary called him a prodigy, other more experienced pilots in completely separate areas talk about him and have heard about him. Of course he's the one they are talking about here.

However, they have also mentioned how Ichigo and Hiro are the only teen numbers of the group. If this is true fo Hiro, I wonder if it is true for Ichigo too? Why are these two high numbers in this group?

[Anh_Minh]

A bit over two minutes in, Goro keeps being the best bro you could ask for. And damn, Ichigo got shot down before she could even confess before on what she believed to be their last or at least Hiro's last battle. "I've always seen you as a sibling." "Same here", god, dude, stop being so dense like a black hole, no sibling would kiss her own bro on his lips (at least no normal sis that is). >.<
The meaning of kissing isn't universal, and not known to the kids in the first place. I've seen a (teenage) daughter kiss her father on the lips as a greeting. Of course, it wasn't an intense kiss, but they weren't trying to pilot a giant mech, so there is that.

Was surprised how nobody died. What exactly is the "fuel" though that the platoon 26 leader 090 was talking about? Wasn't the mechas running on the emotional bond between the girls and boys?

Didn't they say the Franx run on Magma Energy? The emotional state's just for synchronization.

[konart]

"I've always seen you as a sibling." "Same here", god, dude, stop being so dense like a black hole, no sibling would kiss her own bro on his lips (at least no normal sis that is). >.<


How are they supposed to know that? They were raised for a single purpose, ignorant of many things.

[Haak]

Although weirdly enough he knows what it means to be a "pervert". Enough to get embarrassed about it anyway...

[Gan_HOPE326]

"I've always seen you as a sibling." "Same here", god, dude, stop being so dense like a black hole, no sibling would kiss her own bro on his lips (at least no normal sis that is). >.<

To his defense, he lives in animeland, where saying "I've always seen you as a sibling" might as well be saying "I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME RIGHT NOW. ROUGH. ON THE FLOOR" :rolleyes:.

[Irenesharda]

"I've always seen you as a sibling." "Same here", god, dude, stop being so dense like a black hole, no sibling would kiss her own bro on his lips (at least no normal sis that is). >.<


What? Never seen Luke and Leia? Cersei and Jamie? :heh:

It can happen whether unknowingly or on purpose. I'm pretty sure that this is moreso in the former category.

They've mentioned Ichigo and Hiro being like siblings twice in a row now. I see them saying this as only solidifying my theory that the two are actual siblings or even twins and they'll do some kind of reveal at a later time. Sort of like they had for Kill la Kill or Gundam Seed, just they are giving you the clues very far in advance. :D

[JokerD]

I wonder if it's a character moment when everyone is crowding around and congratulating themselves on an op well done, 02 goes 'I wanna kill some more' :heh:

[_Ninja_]

I don't know why this is even a question. :confused: Of course they are talking about Hiro. They've already given us plenty of clues that Hiro is a much bigger deal then he thinks of himself as. The higher ups keep talking about him, the summary called him a prodigy, other more experienced pilots in completely separate areas talk about him and have heard about him. Of course he's the one they are talking about here.

However, they have also mentioned how Ichigo and Hiro are the only teen numbers of the group. If this is true fo Hiro, I wonder if it is true for Ichigo too? Why are these two high numbers in this group?

These are the "Nines" or rather they are eight here absent Zero Two. The guy in front is the character from the end of episode 6. They wear the exact same uniform as Zero Two and she is said be a member I forget which episode it was.

https://s19.postimg.org/n3nd80bxr/2yxlm_W.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/n3nd80bxr/)

[devilo96]

Yeah...hiro is the 9 iota so the real hiro..is using 2 codes 09 and 010 and that is why he is special and idk why they change 2 codes into 1 codes..
Remember when 02 meet him for the 1st time....she said that hiro taste is danger.....idk what she mean for the 1st time but maybe this will conect to how the hell he survive his deathflag
And so naomi already death right?
If no how the hell she can meet hiro in his death moment just like fafner and other mecha series....
And i dont believe she can survive maybe the adult cover it so the kids can relax...and calmdown....
Btw the one who move the mecha is the girl or the boy and Can someone tell how the mecha work?

[Blueknight78]

Yeah...hiro is the 9 iota so the real hiro..is using 2 codes 09 and 010 and that is why he is special and idk why they change 2 codes into 1 codes..
Remember when 02 meet him for the 1st time....she said that hiro taste is danger.....idk what she mean for the 1st time but maybe this will conect to how the hell he survive his deathflag
And so naomi already death right?
If no how the hell she can meet hiro in his death moment just like fafner and other mecha series....
And i dont believe she can survive maybe the adult cover it so the kids can relax...and calmdown....
Btw the one who move the mecha is the girl or the boy and Can someone tell how the mecha work?

for what it's look the girls are basically the "spine", brains and body of mecha, if the burden was not too big a girl could control alone, but it is too big for a pilot alone to control it then that is why you need the "pilot" he become the controler while the girl make sure the body move according to the pilot wish.

at last it's how i see it.

[Haak]

So I think I saw probably the funniest comment on this show so far on RandomC and I thought I'd share it with everyone here because of how much it made my day:
https://vgy.me/XMkp9W.png

[Twi]

Hmm, my reaction to the above feels appropriate:
https://kvasir369.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/my-hero-academia-s2_e23.jpg

[kari-no-sugata II]

i just noticed that the girls in the background of the nine are muzzled. 02 clones or attempts to replicate her condition?

Hard to say.... but I doubt they're muzzled out of kindness. There's probably some sinister reason.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWUtDsXVMAAEwy3.jpg:large
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[Applehell]

Fun episode, but I got admit I did laugh myself when Ichigo sibling-zoned herself to hell. :heh:

I guess that is one way spare yourself the pain.

I do hope we moving past this point as it has dominated too much of recent episodes for awhile now.

IMO the Klaxosaur itself and subsequent battle with it were most impressive moments of the episode because made entire fight feel like something of TTGL. I don't think I would have enjoyed it nearly as much if not for that.

[zibi88]

These are the "Nines" or rather they are eight here absent Zero Two. The guy in front is the character from the end of episode 6. They wear the exact same uniform as Zero Two and she is said be a member I forget which episode it was.

https://s19.postimg.org/n3nd80bxr/2yxlm_W.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/n3nd80bxr/)

Actually the 3guys at the left (first row) are the 3duds at the ending of episdoe 6. You can tell by looking on the hairstyle.

Anyway those guys are mostly another group of clones since their characteristics are similar to the guys in plant13

From right to left it would be (Goro, Ichigo, Hiro, Mitsuru and maybe Zorome).

Maybe kids from plant13 are different type of clones maybe they have a bit of klax blood in them combined, just like how Hiro got for a moment red eyes before he healed himself from the dinocancer.

Still who is the clone and who is the orginal, maybe all are clones or plant13 are the test clones of new type of pilots. Plant26 leader himself was wondering why are Hiro and Ichigo even in this plant based on their personal skills. It would be interesting if Hiros ride with Ichigo was in reality sabotaged by dr.Franx or Papa's becouse they wanted him to ride with 02 as a test subject, papas knew that Hiro is a "special one".

Hard to tell what is going on based that we only got 6episodes so far out of 24, all we can do right now is speculate.

[Anh_Minh]

What was rather unexpected was that none of the guys from plant 26 bit the bullet. They had fodder written all over them, so I thought for sure one of them would die. They have great teamwork, but they're pretty weak. It always took the five of them to take down just one of those small Klaxosaur. In comparison, Strelizia was able to kill half a dozen of them in one blow, though that's not a fair comparison since it's special. The others seemed to be able to handle them one on one just fine though.

I'd say team 26 has the skill and coordination to safely overwhelm each enemy, while team 13 guys were barely able to win individual battles. In other words, the veteran team fought properly, and the newbie team didn't. It's not an issue of individual strength.

Though that went out the window with the big one and the veterans forgot to watch their batteries.

[germanturkey]

i read a neat comment on reddit that said the guy second from the left is actually 26's squad leader. it'd be neat if he was a plant in the squad; actually an elite helping out.

[Gerard07]

Hello everyone!!!!, I integrate me to the forum, sorry if my English is bad, I'm still learning.
Well, I've seen this anime from the beginning and I like it a lot; I like Hiro as the protagonist, and even more Zero Dos, I feel that they have potential and I like the plot.
As for this last episode, I have no complaints about the fights, although I thought that Hiro was going to show signs that he was losing his humanity (something like he was putting red eyes or something like that), but that's fine. See also, where appeared at the end and those of "Nine Iota" (Hiro or Zero Two?), It could be the same squad as Zero Two (the uniform seems), well, to wait for the next chapter.

[kari-no-sugata II]

Some speculation. Some of it not terribly original.

02 has "klaxosaur blood" (ie a certain amount of klaxosaur DNA). It's hard to imagine this happening naturally.

Following from this, if we have at least one person like that then there'd almost certainly be more (if you were going to conduct such an experiment you'd probably prepare multiple samples). Perhaps all the pilots (and candidates) have a certain amount - they were all artificially created. Let's say that the early "samples" all had higher percentages and the percentages were reduced for various reasons - let's say that it was to create more reliable pilots at the cost of "power". So all the children are technically orphans but only because they never had parents in the normal sense in the first place - normal orphans would have had a registered name on their birth certificate.

Let's say that 02 is one of the few successful examples of someone with a high percentage of klaxosaur blood. Why not more? Because she's "always" been alone because of her horns. If she had siblings who had as much klaxosaur blood as her, they'd probably have special traits as well. It's possible that she's the only one living of her "brood" (let's say code numbers 001 to 010).

As far as we know, nothing physical transfers between the pistil and stamen during the piloting process - ie Hiro's blue growth couldn't have come from something physical transferring over. However, there might be a certain amount of mental stimulation. So the blue growth on Hiro might be because something that already existed within him was stimulated by linking with 02. His mental re-adjustment to how he sees 02 caused it to recede, also indicating that it is something that is affected by one's mental state.

The children were brought up in a place called the "garden" and currently living in places with lots of greenery. That is apparently to help tune their suitability as pilots. Perhaps the real underlying reason is that it somehow reduces the side-effects of the klaxosaur blood in the pilots? There's no indication that the places where the adults are has any greenery and there's no indication that the children who become pilots or are candidates for pilots can become adults. 02 also says she feels the adult parts of the plantation to be stifling which might be something "real" rather than her simply not liking it.

How are the code numbers of the children assigned? There's hints from Hiro's profile in ep 2 that there's multiple nurseries - he's from the "3rd nursery lab" and his full code number is "FP40-T3NL-016". The T3NL is probably just the 3rd nursery lab. In which case, perhaps the FP40 is a "generation number". In other words, there's probably lots of other 016s out there, but just from different nurseries or generations. In which case, pilots with code numbers in the teens shouldn't be unusual if they were all created equal. But perhaps there some variations that mean that lower code numbers are stronger but more likely to fail which is why they're rare.

02 is part of a unit (the Nines?) directly attached to APE which is the ruling council. In which case 02 is probably globally unique. The other Nines don't seem to have non-human traits (though can't be sure about the three masked ones). So perhaps 02 is from the very first generation and is the oldest living pilot. It would be interesting to know how long the battle against the klaxosaurs has been going on for - for the children to be raised to be pilots since they were very young indicates that it has been going on for at least a decade, perhaps more, assuming a normal rate of growth.

Dr Franxx says that Hiro might just make 02's wish come true. Indicating that it's something in the future - that Hiro hasn't achieved it yet. 02 has previously asked Hiro to run away with her. At the end 02 says that she has to kill lots more klaxosaurs. Might these all be related somehow? That killing lots of klaxosaurs will enable them to run away somehow and this is related to her wish?

[Rockanime]

The Pistil is the mind of the machine and is focused on the moment to moment maintenance and balance of systems and structure. ItÂ’s taxing work and requires laser focus. Hence the Stamen interfaces with her to provide higher-level motive and command support, allowing the overtaxed MMI and Pistil to cede all other tasks to the Stamen other than the additional complication of maintaining contact, the Stamen pilots her body by connecting to her mind with the butt controls, and therfore moves the mecha with her.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xThtal8mg7640LqTBe/giphy.gif

I'm still trying to work out the exact limits of what the Stamen and Pistil controls, albeit they did go over it a bit in episode 2 at the beginning of the squad's ceremonial Franxx trial and during the mock battle between Hiro/Ichigo and Zerome/Miku.

The Pistil interfaces with the machine and basically controls all the minutia of how it runs, while the Stamen is responsible for the actual instigation of what it is the Franxx does or something? We can assume from Hiro's training bot that Hiro has control over exactly how the bot functions, but when a Pistil is involved how much of that control is a shared enterprise?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-18-2018/02qAIP.gif
In this scene, it's clearly Zerome.

What we saw in ep1 is referred to as スタンピード・モード (stampede mode) which is explained as such:


Translation: Refers to the situation where the FranXX breaks away from the control of the pilot, its shape deforms and it goes on a rampage.

Source: http://darli-fra.jp/keyword/

I don't think this is particular to 02 and could happen with any FranXX - we might see it in the next ep with others, for example.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVM0AQxVMAE3e-R.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV_SdnjUMAAXA9B.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV_K_ufUMAA4JQr.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV2FR-4UQAAbufS.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw7B81VwAIgAfD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVrtiJFVoAEmMh8.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUKU8_VAAAwRQv.jpg

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After this episode, it became more than clear that the ''stampede mode'' is actually enabled when the Stamen is about to die, and robot's rage state is clearly caused by the physical, emotional, mental and psychological state of the Pistil (emotional and psychological unbalance; pain; ange; rage, etc.), which is linked to the machine.

Did the other FranXX units have a stampede mode like Strelizia?

[Mad Pierrot]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWTYAiUVQAEMGAx.jpg

[SeaDoor]

*snip*

IMO the Klaxosaur itself and subsequent battle with it were most impressive moments of the episode because made entire fight feel like something of TTGL. I don't think I would have enjoyed it nearly as much if not for that.

Yes! During Strelizia's final attack I do not know how the animators resisted the temptation to change the lance to a drill. :heh:
I'm pretty sure I would have had to do that and get fired in the process. :p

[Irenesharda]

These are the "Nines" or rather they are eight here absent Zero Two. The guy in front is the character from the end of episode 6. They wear the exact same uniform as Zero Two and she is said be a member I forget which episode it was.

https://s19.postimg.org/n3nd80bxr/2yxlm_W.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/n3nd80bxr/)
I don't think it's 02 they are talking about. Her code name everywhere is already 002, she has not a 9 in sight of her name. However, Hiro is the much more probable choice. The uniforms they where aren't completely the same, there is a different coloring to her compared to theirs. And the fact that the style is similar makes sense. It is overall the same military. I think they are both from elite sections of the military, just different groups.

I'd say team 26 has the skill and coordination to safely overwhelm each enemy, while team 13 guys were barely able to win individual battles. In other words, the veteran team fought properly, and the newbie team didn't. It's not an issue of individual strength.

Though that went out the window with the big one and the veterans forgot to watch their batteries.

I agree that Team 26 has better skill and know how to operate much better as a team. Also, despite the power of the newbies, the veteran team fought longer, harder, and better.
It reminds me a bit of Momo's analysis of the 1v1 fight in Boku no Hero Academia. How despite the power shown and who won overall, it was the person who took the exercise the most seriously and showed the best use of the advantages that he was given, that was the actual best fighter in the group.

I think in the end though, the fact that they has pretty much obsolete tech and that they had been fighting longer and harder than the newbies, led to them losing their fuel and being in a pickle by the time the big boss arrived.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Also, there's so much Evangelion in this episode that it's not even worth mentioning since those who have seen Evangelion should already know.

But since the people responsible for Franxx aren't the ones responsible for Eva, all the Eva-elements feel like knockoff products somehow (to me, at least). I mean, do they really have to add that wings of light in the explosion that resemble Eva's Second Impact just to represent the Jian? Aside from that, the wings are also a bit close to ripping off V2 Gundam's Wings of Light in the Victory Gundam anime :heh:.

[DevilHighDxD]

Btw it is confirmed in the credit that the blond hair Hiro look alike is called Nine Alpha. I assume Nine Iota refer to Hiro, since 02 is likely to be Nine Beta. My guess is that Hiro will be promoted to be a member of the “Nine” after his exploits and his code will rank up to 010.

[Dengar]

Uhhh, having seen Evangelion, exactly what is more Evangelion about this show than other mechas that fight weird alien monsters?

Also, while this was indeed an awesome episode, it's going to take more than that to make me feel sympathy towards 02. Oh so she has had a bad life, and can only ascertain her humanity by fighting monsters. Boo hoo.

[Applehell]

Speaking of Eva from twitter:

:heh:

https://i.imgur.com/CUArczK.jpg

[Kuroageha]

Annoooooooooo!

Gdi trigger.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Speaking of Eva from twitter:

:heh:

https://i.imgur.com/CUArczK.jpg

Is that girl with the glasses from the Rebuild?

[Twi]

Yeah. Mari something.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Also, there's so much Evangelion in this episode that it's not even worth mentioning since those who have seen Evangelion should already know.

But since the people responsible for Franxx aren't the ones responsible for Eva, all the Eva-elements feel like knockoff products somehow (to me, at least). I mean, do they really have to add that wings of light in the explosion that resemble Eva's Second Impact just to represent the Jian? Aside from that, the wings are also a bit close to ripping off V2 Gundam's Wings of Light in the Victory Gundam anime :heh:.

More Demonbane than Eva IMO (except for the berserk Strelizia, which is totally Eva)

[Wandering Soul]

Yeah. Mari something.
Mari Makinami.

[kampfer91]

They say plantation 13 have unique designed Franxx , but why only 4 , and if Hiro passed his 1st test with Naomi then what Franxx he gonna ride , where is the 5th Franxx ?

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

They say plantation 13 have unique designed Franxx , but why only 4, and if Hiro passed his 1st test with Naomi then what Franxx he gonna ride, where is the 5th Franxx ?Yeah, I’ve been wondering about that myself.
I think the possibilities are either:

The FranXX customization is done after the test which is why Hiro didn’t get one,
They already made it and it’s waiting in a garage somewhere, or
The writers simply did not think that far :heh: (unless there's a side material that addresses it).

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s #3. I mean, let’s face it, the show’s writing is not exactly stellar so far. Remember when the APE higher-ups sent a troop armed with live-ammo rifles to pick up 02? But then they didn’t know what to do when 02 fought back and the rifles they carried became useless coz they don’t want to use them to damage the precious 02? The whole scenario does not feel well-thought-out.

[jwai]

Maybe there are extra pairs as a reserve?

[kampfer91]

You think the Strelizia is what generation ?
Mass produced Franxx seems based on her , spear wielding that also connect with a rope .

Also , about no sight of 5th Franxx made for plant 13 , seems the doctor want to test a thoery about Hiro with 02 and not report to the higher up , so only 4 Franxx for plant 13 .

[Norn]

One thing I can't grasp is Goro and his tendency of feeling what Ichigo feels, even when outside of the Franxx. What is up with that? Is it a sideffect of Goro and Ichigo being the pairing with the biggest synch? But what about the Genista pair then, they're nearly made for each other yet they don't have this.

[PentingWolf]

What? Never seen Luke and Leia? Cersei and Jamie? :heh:

It can happen whether unknowingly or on purpose. I'm pretty sure that this is moreso in the former category.

They've mentioned Ichigo and Hiro being like siblings twice in a row now. I see them saying this as only solidifying my theory that the two are actual siblings or even twins and they'll do some kind of reveal at a later time. Sort of like they had for Kill la Kill or Gundam Seed, just they are giving you the clues very far in advance. :D
Umehara said something will cause him to become more jaded and Goro changes into a joking kind of guy after the show shifts tone (possibly in episode 9?), and that he was more easily able to identify with, and thus better portray, Goro after this change.

Remember when 02 meet him for the 1st time....she said that hiro taste is danger.
Yes, 02 also mentioned that ''Your ability's probably just still dorment. I can awake it for you''.
https://i.imgur.com/7CwK2bq.jpg

Another interesting fact is that every training montage with Hiro is supplemented with the revelation that 02 is watching him.
She's interested in who Hiro is and his skills, and spends her free time observing every one of your training.
And that is why she can also imply with confidence that Hiro isn't a weakling, and that he's special and the best pilot. And she knows it from watching him train, while disparaging the rest of his squad, despite only piloting with him once, because 02 is very conscious that piloting is essentially the most valued skill/profession in their world.
https://i.imgur.com/LE50OQ4.jpg

Btw the one who move the mecha is the girl or the boy and Can someone tell how the mecha work?
for what it's look the girls are basically the "spine", brains and body of mecha, if the burden was not too big a girl could control alone, but it is too big for a pilot alone to control it then that is why you need the "pilot" he become the controler while the girl make sure the body move according to the pilot wish.

at last it's how i see it.
I'm still trying to work out the exact limits of what the Stamen and Pistil controls, albeit they did go over it a bit in episode 2 at the beginning of the squad's ceremonial Franxx trial and during the mock battle between Hiro/Ichigo and Zerome/Miku.

The Pistil interfaces with the machine and basically controls all the minutia of how it runs, while the Stamen is responsible for the actual instigation of what it is the Franxx does or something? We can assume from Hiro's training bot that Hiro has control over exactly how the bot functions, but when a Pistil is involved how much of that control is a shared enterprise?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-18-2018/02qAIP.gif
In this scene, it's clearly Zerome.

Besides what I have already said before.

''The stamen has the initiative when it comes to handling, so consider whether the Pistil, who's connected to the Franxx, can keep up''
''The trust between partners has a direct influence on the handling''.

The Pistil executes the low-level "execution" part of things like managing the robot's body and systems while the Stamen executes the high-level part of things like decision making.

The stamen has the initiative but the pistil is there to support him in terms of execution. When their sync is high the FranXX seems to feel light (the pistil is supporting well) and blinding fast (see Strelizia's deflection in episodes 4 and 6), but when sync is low it feels heavy, so the pistil is not helping with the execution of what the stamen wants to do (see Delphinium's stagnation in episodes 3, 4 and 6 and Strelizia in episode 3). If Stamen wants to do something against the wishes of the Pistil it leads to a desynchronization and the movement hangs (see Argentea in episode 2).

Further simplifying the definition.
The Stamen is the pilot which is in control.


Well, we've learned 2 things with this latest episode.

First: Hiro was really piloting Strelizia in episode 1, and He passed out after Strelizia gave the finishing blow, since both Strelizia and its interface were running correctly.
https://i.imgur.com/RxZl2Vu.jpg

Second: Maiden mode Strelitzia cannot be piloted by 02 alone, since she was struggling even to keep Strelitzia standing after Hiro passed out.
https://media.giphy.com/media/2kRwULFI2LOsrdXd6a/giphy.gif

Btw it is confirmed in the credit that the blond hair Hiro look alike is called Nine Alpha.
I bet he is gay for Hiro.

since 02 is likely to be Nine Beta.
I wonder how many times the other Nines have had to bail her ass out when she devoured her Stamen and went into Stampede Mode. Every time she went berserk, we saw her ass getting kicked (episodes 1 and 6). I bet she hated it too since they all look like assholes who would rub it in.

-*-*-*-

So it looks like we'll have a training arc.

ジャンプ＋更新！ TVアニメも絶賛放送中！ 『ダーリン・イン・ザ・フランキス』更新！ 訓練機でトレーニングに励むヒロ。その時、ゼロツーや13部隊のメンバーは︎

[Solace]

I mean, let’s face it, the show’s writing is not exactly stellar so far.

To me the problem seems to be how far we're in already with no explanations. It's really hard to tell where the story wants to go because there is so much emphasis on Hiro's....um, performance issues over everything else. Sure there's a ton of hints, many not very subtle, but I was ready for Hiro to be done with this drama two episodes ago. Heck I'm still not sure it's over, considering his proclamations of why he wants to pilot. So far he's an extremely one dimensional character. They pretty much all are, and some are less.

So far this show is just....kind of there.

[ScrewySquirrel]

the thing is, this is a Super Robot show.

Hot-Boodedness, youth, willpower, and determination matter more than tech, skill, or tactics

[Arya]

Well, well, beside the obvious eva's references (even if I didn't see rebuild so i don't know that mary girl) this time the attack also reminded me a bit of a BETA invasion.

Anyway, not exactly impressed, but much better than many recent shows. As said not a bad MC, the heroine is a win and the third wheel is also quite cool. But not fond of the mecha design, at all.

About the siblings thing I think each of them sees the others as sibling, or should at least. Because some don't and started feeling something different than a brotherly/sisterly love. Goro looks like is starting to change his feelings for Ichigo for example.
They seems to have been trained to be detached and without any trace of sexual attraction. They barely know about kisses.

[EroKing]

https://a.l3n.co/i/srrQ2k.md.jpeg (https://lensdump.com/i/srrQ2k) https://c.l3n.co/i/srrdx1.md.jpeg (https://lensdump.com/i/srrdx1)

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[AB079]

ダーリン #7 流星モラトリアム
脚本：山崎莉乃
絵コンテ／演出：谷田部透湖
作画監督：山口智
総作画監督：田中将賀
制作進行：梅原翔太
原画：
高橋沙妃 安倍晃平(?) 濱口明 杉薗朗子 川上太志 中山見都美
米森雄紀 谷田部透湖 小野承國 空賀萌香 髙橋尚 砂小原巧
宝井俊介 中村颯 杉山和隆 小林恵祐

Looks like we're back to A-1 this time.

[mangamuscle]

Yeah, I’ve been wondering about that myself.
I think the possibilities are either:

The FranXX customization is done after the test which is why Hiro didn’t get one,
They already made it and it’s waiting in a garage somewhere, or
The writers simply did not think that far :heh: (unless there's a side material that addresses it).



#4 It was inside the giant capsule where the failed female pilot that was sent out (and killed in episode 1). I mean, it was too big a vehicle only to carry one or two persons.

[Twi]

Not dead until we get confirmation, no sense in moving a perfectly useful Franxx because of one failed pilot, and chances were she wasn't the only one in the pod since we saw more than one moving around when the ground collapsed.

[PentingWolf]

https://i.imgur.com/DS9Y3Jo.png

[kampfer91]

#4 It was inside the giant capsule where the failed female pilot that was sent out (and killed in episode 1). I mean, it was too big a vehicle only to carry one or two persons.

Why would they transport an important asset with a civilian transport , they would do it with a big plane , like what they did with Strelizia in ep 1 and 2 .

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

To me the problem seems to be how far we're in already with no explanations. It's really hard to tell where the story wants to go because there is so much emphasis on Hiro's....um, performance issues over everything else. Sure there's a ton of hints, many not very subtle, but I was ready for Hiro to be done with this drama two episodes ago. Heck I'm still not sure it's over, considering his proclamations of why he wants to pilot. So far he's an extremely one dimensional character. They pretty much all are, and some are less.

So far this show is just....kind of there.As for me, the show is mildly-interesting which partly thanks to the blatant innuendos and this being a mecha with some Trigger-ness in it. It’s always fun enough to follow the show weekly. As for the lack of information about the world they inhabit, I’m kinda neutral about it. I’m pretty open-minded when it comes to stories and I’m willing to follow whatever storytelling-style a showrunner employs as long as I consider it interesting and makes me want more. Sometimes not being able to tell where a story want to go is a good thing since that means the story is not predictable, but the story that we follow needs to be gradually or continuously interesting and amounts to something good/great after all is said and done.

Regarding the lack of explanations on things, well….....technically, it’s okay to withhold information early on and then gradually reveal them along the way as long as it serves the story (Shin Sekai Yori did it in a great way). We may not know what these characters are actually defending aside from their own lives and the lives of the people inside the plantations, but Evangelion also uses similar narrative in which we initially only know that the characters need to defend the Nerv HQ and Tokyo-3. Otherwise, people who live in them will be screwed. Only later in the series we find out the “whys” and “hows”. But FranXX chose the more intimate method by mostly following and focusing on a selected group of protags to uncover the mysteries of their world ala Shin Sekai Yori. Though personally, FranXX is not as suspenseful and gripping as SSY and it’s more interested in highlighting the love triangle/square and melodrama of the teenagers who don’t know about love, intimacy and many more things about life which can be pretty mundane and maybe even banal for audience especially for seasoned anime-fans.

You know, it’s kinda funny. Years ago, if you proposed me a mecha series with distinct mecha designs & Evangelion-esque visuals that will combine the storytelling of super-robot anime with SSY-esque mystery and it will be done by Trigger & A1, I def would’ve told you that the show will at least be excitingly strange, visually unique, thrilling and imaginative. Now that we actually got one in the form of FranXX, I don’t think my what-if prediction still stands aside from some sexual silliness. Plus (or in this case, minus), the mechs are basically just a mechanical version of mahou-shoujo designed so that the animators won't have too much of a hard-time animating the robot-movements and their consistency (unlike the cool and intricate 2D designs of the mechas in the Gundam franchise that definitely needs more effort to animate). The designs are made to allow loose consistency so that everything can be easier to stretch for exaggeration like the fighters in Kill la Kill. Worse still, the mecha fights themselves aren't that unique in FranXX. They're not as crazy and manic as the ones in Kill la Kill, not bonecrunchingly-brutal like in Gundam IBO & Broken Blade, not superquick intense like in Majestic Prince, Gundam 00 & Code Geass: Akito nor is it hot-blooded enough like in Gurren Lagann, Mazinger, GaoGaiGar and Getter Robo. Thus, I'm left with a lukewarm feeling so far.

It’s definitely underwhelming compared to what I expected (so far at least) but it’s still a bit amusing and somewhat enjoyable to watch. Right now, FranXX still holds my attention enough for me to follow. Here's hoping the show goes nowhere but up.

[PentingWolf]

https://media.giphy.com/media/2gZ6Qrwb0Csud2TLA8/giphy.gif

[Funkatron]

Episode 7 preview via Twitter (https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/966599310795132928?s=20)

Beach episode!

[Sakuratsuki]

Episode 7 preview via Twitter (https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/966599310795132928?s=20)

Beach episode!

So next time we get ''darling on the beach''. :heh: Oh do I see there a Goro x Ichigo moment.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Let's hope the beach episode (if true) is gonna be bananas.

Anything other than prolonging the melodrama.

[Roxanne]

beach episode? But I wanted to see new characters :/

[ScrewySquirrel]

As for me, the show is mildly-interesting which partly thanks to the blatant innuendos and this being a mecha with some Trigger-ness in it. It’s always fun enough to follow the show weekly. As for the lack of information about the world they inhabit, I’m kinda neutral about it. I’m pretty open-minded when it comes to stories and I’m willing to follow whatever storytelling-style a showrunner employs as long as I consider it interesting and makes me want more. Sometimes not being able to tell where a story want to go is a good thing since that means the story is not predictable, but the story that we follow needs to be gradually or continuously interesting and amounts to something good/great after all is said and done.

Regarding the lack of explanations on things, well….....technically, it’s okay to withhold information early on and then gradually reveal them along the way as long as it serves the story (Shin Sekai Yori did it in a great way). We may not know what these characters are actually defending aside from their own lives and the lives of the people inside the plantations, but Evangelion also uses similar narrative in which we initially only know that the characters need to defend the Nerv HQ and Tokyo-3. Otherwise, people who live in them will be screwed. Only later in the series we find out the “whys” and “hows”. But FranXX chose the more intimate method by mostly following and focusing on a selected group of protags to uncover the mysteries of their world ala Shin Sekai Yori. Though personally, FranXX is not as suspenseful and gripping as SSY and it’s more interested in highlighting the love triangle/square and melodrama of the teenagers who don’t know about love, intimacy and many more things about life which can be pretty mundane and maybe even banal for audience especially for seasoned anime-fans.

You know, it’s kinda funny. Years ago, if you proposed me a mecha series with distinct mecha designs & Evangelion-esque visuals that will combine the storytelling of super-robot anime with SSY-esque mystery and it will be done by Trigger & A1, I def would’ve told you that the show will at least be excitingly strange, visually unique, thrilling and imaginative. Now that we actually got one in the form of FranXX, I don’t think my what-if prediction still stands aside from some sexual silliness. Plus (or in this case, minus), the mechs are basically just a mechanical version of mahou-shoujo designed so that the animators won't have too much of a hard-time animating the robot-movements and their consistency (unlike the cool and intricate 2D designs of the mechas in the Gundam franchise that definitely needs more effort to animate). The designs are made to allow loose consistency so that everything can be easier to stretch for exaggeration like the fighters in Kill la Kill. Worse still, the mecha fights themselves aren't that unique in FranXX. They're not as crazy and manic as the ones in Kill la Kill, not bonecrunchingly-brutal like in Gundam IBO & Broken Blade, not superquick intense like in Majestic Prince, Gundam 00 & Code Geass: Akito nor is it hot-blooded enough like in Gurren Lagann, Mazinger, GaoGaiGar and Getter Robo. Thus, I'm left with a lukewarm feeling so far.

It’s definitely underwhelming compared to what I expected (so far at least) but it’s still a bit amusing and somewhat enjoyable to watch. Right now, FranXX still holds my attention enough for me to follow. Here's hoping the show goes nowhere but up.

In other words, you got overhyped and are disappointed what has turned out to be a genuinely deep and nuaced show didn't live up to the hype in your mind.

and yes, if this guy can do an hour of analysis per episode, theres a lot to unpack in this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXm_s_MAQkA

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

In other words, you got overhyped and are disappointed what has turned out to be a genuinely deep and nuaced show didn't live up to the hype in your mind.Overhyped? Not really. This (https://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=6187277&postcount=72) is my impression back in the anticipation-thread when I first heard about the show when it was still in promotional stage:
Looking good so far. Other than the new LOGH, I need my fix of mecha anime now that both Gundam & Macross are still being dormant when it comes to TV series.Does that sound overhyped? Certainly not. I only expected FranXX to entertain me as a mecha show done by Trigger/A1. No such overhype. And my third paragraph that you quoted in your post is just a "what if" scenario, not the real one. My real excitement level when FranXX was announced ranged from "moderate" to "moderately-high" as you can see in my quoted comment above.

FranXX more or less met my moderate expectation but falls a bit short of my moderately-high expectation. It's still amusing, enjoyable and sometimes I got a kick outta the innuendos and other silliness, but nothing has impressed me so far when it comes to writing and execution.

and yes, if this guy can do an hour of analysis per episode, theres a lot to unpack in this show.A lot to unpack =/= good.

Believe me, mate. If people can make a long analysis out of a crap movie like Batman v Superman, that means people can make a long analysis of any kind of works, be it good or bad. There's a whole lot of things going on in that messy movie but they don't amount to a good film. I'm not saying that FranXX is as bad as BvS (yet). I'm just saying that a long analysis is neutral in nature. A long analysis doesn't necessarily indicate a good (or bad) feature.

But this is still early in FranXX story. So I'm obviously not judging the whole show yet. Who knows? It might get better from here.

[AB079]

Episode 7 preview via Twitter (https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/966599310795132928?s=20)

Beach episode!

Beach episode? why?

[Funkatron]

Episode 7 preview via Twitter (https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/966599310795132928?s=20)

Beach episode!

Translation via reddit:
(Kokoro speaking)We were raised in an institution and now we live in the Bird Cage. There are so many things wedon't know. Take the sea, for example. How it actually smells, the sound of the washing waves, the fact that sea water tastes salty.All those things that we'd only seen in books and all those scenes, it was all kept intact there

[shadow1296]

so a friend of mine brought up why he didn't like the characters, they are essentially stormtroopers and that is their current characterization, they have no other goals besides fighting klaxosuars(rebels) for the plantations(the empire) and Papa(the emperor) because they were raise since birth with nothing else believing that their only purpose in life is to pilot franxx(be stormtroopers), and he didn't think that story is interesting on its own without a character being disillusioned from the beginning, i disagree because i think that story could work if executed properly and franxx's still has 20ish episodes to do it

[kampfer91]

A beach episode ? REEEEEEE .

And here i hope they push the plot forward to find out what Hiro really is....

[Faux Mecha]

Episode 7 preview via Twitter (https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/966599310795132928?s=20)

Beach episode!

and they gave the most fan-service-y character 02 the most less revealing swimsuit. :heh:

[Kanon]

The mandatory beach episode, huh? I'm looking forward to the manga version more in this case, for obvious reasons. Yabuki has made great use of all the opportunities they've given him so far.

Anyway, with this we can see Hiro is fully healed.

[Sakuratsuki]

The mandatory beach episode, huh? I'm looking forward to the manga version more in this case, for obvious reasons. Yabuki has made great use of all the opportunities they've given him so far.

Anyway, with this we can see Hiro is fully healed.

Here me wondering why a beach episode while we had the answer in front of us. :heh:

[kari-no-sugata II]

I'm quite happy with the series so far. I wasn't sure what they were going for with just ep 1 but by now it's clearer - there's much more stuff yet to be revealed though.

It is interesting to revisit ep 1. It felt rather generic back then. Feels less so now, to me at least - ie I rate it higher now than on its initial release. So far, the focus is clearly on the relationships between the pilot pairs: the ability for the pilot characters to achieve the things they want to depends more on their affinity with their co-pilot than their individual skills. No matter what their individual skills are, if you're not compatible with your co-pilot then you can only fail. This is dynamic as well - you can lose that affinity even after it has been proven.

I don't know if it'll continue to be the major theme going forwards, but I found it interesting - it gives the plot lots of opportunity to tie into character relationships and character developments.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

Japan's Weekly Manga Rankings for Feb 12 - 18

*20,496　114,962　Darling in the FranXX Vol.1

[Rockanime]

Besides what I have already said before.

''The stamen has the initiative when it comes to handling, so consider whether the Pistil, who's connected to the Franxx, can keep up''
''The trust between partners has a direct influence on the handling''.

The Pistil executes the low-level "execution" part of things like managing the robot's body and systems while the Stamen executes the high-level part of things like decision making.

The stamen has the initiative but the pistil is there to support him in terms of execution. When their sync is high the FranXX seems to feel light (the pistil is supporting well) and blinding fast (see Strelizia's deflection in episodes 4 and 6), but when sync is low it feels heavy, so the pistil is not helping with the execution of what the stamen wants to do (see Delphinium's stagnation in episodes 3, 4 and 6 and Strelizia in episode 3). If Stamen wants to do something against the wishes of the Pistil it leads to a desynchronization and the movement hangs (see Argentea in episode 2).

Further simplifying the definition.
The Stamen is the pilot which is in control.
Ok perfect, Now I've understood how it works. Thanks.
Also, the comment that Ichigo made to Hiro in episode 4 already implied that all the stunts Strelitzia pulled off were done at the instigation of Hiro. Otherwise her complimenting Hiro for doing exactly what she had planned doesn't quite make sense.

https://media.giphy.com/media/2gZ6Qrwb0Csud2TLA8/giphy.gif
Strelizia's choreographies are made by Hiro. Though that should be a little obvious from how clunky and ungraceful Strelitzia was with Mitsuru.

Like I have always said, attention to detail is there.

[ScrewySquirrel]

The mandatory beach episode, huh? I'm looking forward to the manga version more in this case, for obvious reasons. Yabuki has made great use of all the opportunities they've given him so far.

Anyway, with this we can see Hiro is fully healed.

well, there's a scar or something on the left side of his chest. In remission, maybe.

Sort of a discoloration on the left side of his chest


https://i.imgur.com/vQ7njlt.jpg

[Funkatron]

Kokorro has a lot of plot:
https://i.imgur.com/riLzlS4.png

[James Rye]

So next time we get ''darling on the beach''. :heh: Oh do I see there a Goro x Ichigo moment.

Goro trying to comfort Ichigo after her witnessing Hiro ogling 02 in her sexy swimsuit? Yeah, I could see something like that happening.

[AB079]

02 looks a bit "nerfed" on swimsuit, I thought she was bigger than that judging by the way she looks on the red suit.

[Wandering Soul]

A beach episode, huh? Well if nothing else, it'll give Yabuki some good material to work with.

[ScrewySquirrel]

A beach episode, huh? Well if nothing else, it'll give Yabuki some good material to work with.

And now we know why.:D

[Sixth]

Is it just me or episode 7 or 8 tend to be a beach episode for anime or it is just a coincidence?

[Twi]

It gives the authors/animators time to do the rest and saves on budget, which they probably need to after that last episode. It was gorgeous.

[Kanon]

Kokorro has a lot of plot:
https://i.imgur.com/riLzlS4.png

You should check out chapter six of the manga.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Is it just me or episode 7 or 8 tend to be a beach episode for anime or it is just a coincidence?Mostly just for anime with fanservice in its premise. The more serious shows or the non-otaku shows do not follow that "rule" for the most part.

[DemonneoPT]

A beach episode ? REEEEEEE .

And here i hope they push the plot forward to find out what Hiro really is....

I will treat it as a recap and will do the same to most of the recaps out there. Skip it :heh::heh:
It will probably be teen melodrama shipping with over 9000 fanservice shots. Not for me but will help this to sell while saving budget and giving the animators a little break. They deserve it since the animation quality is indeed fantastic and coherent for most of the time. It's a pleasure for my eyes :). I'm excited about the new arcs to come tho!

[shadow1296]

Episode 6 analysis
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[Twi]

Excellent, new analysis.

[Jaden]

Just caught up with this series, and wow!

It's the second most Evangelion-influenced anime. I don't think I've ever felt this much déjà-vu while watching anime.

And that's just fine. It's been a while since anyone took a shot at repeating that success.

Not saying that's all there is to it, of course. The studio is pulling out ALL the stops to sell this thing - the brilliant first episode, lightning pacing, the top-tier waifu ensemble, the gratuitous fanservice...

There is also a strong sense of one-upmanship in this anime. Standard simply will not do, everything must have some contrivance attached to it. Be it butt control, bizarre overdesigned mechas, tetris monsters, retarded terminology, or the incomprehensible sci-fi fantasy setting.

For the time being, I'm entertained. It does seem like something that'll be crushed under its own weight, though.

[Kismet-chan]

I'm behind on the series right now, but I can't wait to get caught up and then watch Nearly On Red's analyses afterward. Seriously, thank you Twi for posting that initial vid of his, because while he is extremely elaborate and perhaps even over-analytical... I love that sort of stuff.

[Twi]

The more views the guy gets, the better. I didn't notice half the things he mentioned until it was pointed out.

[Stark700]

A beautiful episode. Squad 13 united as a whole and enjoying the time of their lives.

The part about kissing and discovering what it truly means will probably be one of the main focus for some of the upcoming episodes between certain characters. The fan service was expected with the beach setting. Honestly, I think this episode is one of the more meaningful ones for this series so far. It's also obvious that Goro feels a sense of attraction towards Ichigo now. Speaking of Ichigo, I'm not sure what direction her relationship with Hiro will steer towards. She still regards Hiro as a very special person but there's also Zero Two who became close to him. Kinda curious to see how they develop Kokoro and Mitsuru's relationship in this series too.

Oh and Zero Two looked great as usual!

[KPSJ]

Another great EP this week this show is not doing anything wrong yet.... only way this will not get Anime of the season Is if the second half is badly written like Virgin souls 2nd half bad.

[AB079]

For a common and very cliche beach episode this was pretty enjoyable, how the guys discovered more about the old civilization and the scene with the whole kissing stuff opens a bit more to explore.

Each time some meaningful things happen 02 starts to show some of her real feelings, is almost like a bittersweet part of her because there is cleary some happiness mixed with sadness. Ichigo is stil trying to go for Hiro, that's not a good thing considering that at this point the most important person for him is 02. Oh and Goro... he's really doomed regarding Ichigo.

Not the best episode but not bad either.

[Arkard]

That childbirth book is gonna cause all sorts of havok...

[endarion88]

so

am i the only one that thinks it's obvious that this "papa" & CO will turn out to be the real evil here?

[wuhugm]

Beach episode, coz why not

[germanturkey]

despite the fact it was a beach episode, it was very well done. they actually used it for development and not just fanservice. beautifully animated, especially the derelict town and the night scene. 02's look just says the happy times won't continue.

the childbirth book is going to cause a lot of problems. with 2 cours to work with, they have plenty of time to develop relationships, both emotionally and physically. everyone is essentially a blank slate except 02, Hiro, and Ichigo. but you see everyone starting to realize there's something more.

top top stuff. my personal best show of the season.