Licensed + Crunchyroll Hakyū Hōshin Engi (Soul Hunter) [remake] [Archive]

Stark700

2017-07-31, 06:23

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max450x450/cms/news/119532/hoshin-engi-1.jpg

This year's combined 36th and 37th issues of Shueisha's Young Jump magazine is revealing on Thursday that Ryu Fujisaki's Hoshin Engi manga is getting a new television anime adaptation. The wording on the announcement suggests the new anime will be a remake instead of a sequel. The Young Jump issue is also revealing a teaser visual for the anime.

Source
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-31/ryu-fujisaki-hoshin-engi-manga-gets-new-tv-anime-with-new-cast/.119532

Sage Shinigami

2017-07-31, 07:39

I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! I knew if I waited long enough on this reboot trend eventually the anime gods would give me something I actually wanted to see! Houshin Engi was one of my favorite manga as a young teen. I read all 23 volumes and was so excited to see the anime, only to be disappointed when I watched it because it was so far off what the manga was.

This time it shouldn't be hard to properly adapt the whole thing inside of 52 episodes if they wanted.

iko_uwais

2017-07-31, 07:46

I remember that in January 2009, Shomei TV announced their intentions to remake the anime series if they received 10,000 signatures.the 10,000 signatures were reached, but no new info after that. Really glad it finally got a remake, hopefully this time it will be a faithful adaptation of the manga

Requiem-x

2017-07-31, 07:58

iko_uwais

2017-07-31, 08:02

Well then! This is unexpected, but interesting. Haven't read the manga, but I do know the anime, which I did watch differs greatly from the source (and isn't that great by itself either), so here's hoping for a better experience this time.

the manga also differs a lot from the original novel, but it's really good, IMO and Taikobou is an awesome protagonist

kuromitsu

2017-07-31, 09:11

I don't even pretend to be surprised anymore. One more ghost from the past and I'll start writing a reboot wishlist. If they can't come up with anything new and original they should at least reboot things that I'm interested in... (RUROUNI KENSHIN JINCHUU ARC, DAMN IT.)

I guess this is Fujisaki's consolation prize for the new LoGH anime apparently not being based on his manga? :heh: (OK, probably not.) Or maybe it's Jump throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it all sticks to some degree, while they're trying to find new series that continue to carry the magazine...

Arabesque

2017-07-31, 09:29

Now that's a blast from the past. God, how long has it been since I last read the manga of this series, let alone last seen the old anime?

Looking forward to it, wont say no to a series I liked plenty enough years back.

Or maybe it's Jump throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it all sticks to some degree, while they're trying to find new series that continue to carry the magazine...

I feel that it is part of how the series hit the nostalgia point where they could make a remake, and that interest had always been there (going by what iko_uwais mentioned re:the petition from 8 year back) but it took time for the means and funding to get it going.

Shueisha, on their part, had been reviving and bringing back a lot of their older properties for many years now, regardless of how Jump does (I mean, it's still the no.1 shonen magazine in the market, and One Piece is still the no.1 best selling title in the country, along with a fresh(er) roster of titles now, so it is doing alright. It would be a different topic had this been Hoshin Engi re-serialization I think).

iko_uwais

2017-07-31, 10:28

With this and yyh getting a remake, it's as if I'm back to my teenage years again :D
Maybe they will remake dai no daibouken and finally give Rokudenashi Blues a tv series adaptation. one can only hope

AntonKutovoi

2017-07-31, 10:43

Or maybe it's Jump throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it all sticks to some degree, while they're trying to find new series that continue to carry the magazine...

I'm pretty sure One Piece alone is enough to keep Jump running, not to mention that it's anime adaptation continues to feed a lot of animators and a half of Japan's voice actors :p
But even beyond OP, I don't think Jump is having any problems right now: Haikyuu, Shokugeki no Soma and Boku no Hero Academia are still going strong, Black Clover is becoming quite popular and Yakusoku no Neverland has the potential to become one of Jump's greatest works (though I can't really see it going for long).

Guardian Enzo

2017-07-31, 10:57

And don't forget that when Togashi is healthy enough to write enough chapters, H x H is basically second only to OP in terms of volume sales. Jump is having no problems at all at the moment - they're still the biggest power player in the manga business, easily.

I confess I find it a bit baffling that there's been no RK reboot. The franchise is still phenomenally popular and riddled with cross-marketing opportunities. And the series still hasn't gotten a full adaptation - it just makes no sense, financially or otherwise.

Obelisk ze Tormentor

2017-07-31, 10:58

With this and yyh getting a remake, it's as if I'm back to my teenage years again :DIf by "YYH" you mean Yu Yu Hakusho, I remembered it being a false alarm coz the celebration for the 25th Anniversary turned out to be for YYH Cafe, or is there another new development I'm not aware of?

Personally, I don't want a remake of YYH. That's a near-perfect shonen TV series that's done beautifully and the entire story has finished too. Better allocate those resources for other great mangas that haven't been adapted yet (yes, Rurouni Kenshin Jinchu arc is one of them).

Fairy Water

2017-07-31, 11:20

IS THIS A DREAM? HAS GOD HEARD MY PRAYER?!

OMG so fvckin hype! I love the series itself so much and has always believed it will have a remake one day because it DESERVES to have one!
It's from this series that I come to like Ryu Fujisaki and his writing style.

the manga also differs a lot from the original novel, but it's really good, IMO and Taikobou is an awesome protagonist

And Sodakki is the greatest heroine Jump ever has :p
Can't wait to see her on the screen being cruel and sexy at the same time.

I remember that in January 2009, Shomei TV announced their intentions to remake the anime series if they received 10,000 signatures.the 10,000 signatures were reached, but no new info after that. Really glad it finally got a remake, hopefully this time it will be a faithful adaptation of the manga

I believe I heard about this as well and was pretty upset because they keep quiet about it. But now that 10,000 signatures r finally showing good results.

~Yami~

2017-07-31, 11:34

whoa... I finished this manga when I was back in highschool

I don't know if I would expect something from this but I'll check this out for sure if I got time

looking forward for my Taikoubou

AntonKutovoi

2017-07-31, 11:43

Better allocate those resources for other great mangas that haven't been adapted yet (yes, Rurouni Kenshin Jinchu arc is one of them).

I personally still waiting for Hana no Keiji adaptation.

kuromitsu

2017-07-31, 12:32

I personally still waiting for Hana no Keiji adaptation.
Seriously. :( The Kanetsugu & Keiji series was pretty fun.

iko_uwais

2017-07-31, 18:06

mweloo

2017-07-31, 18:49

Kensho ono as taikobou, sounds interesting. Taikobou seems to be different than the usual type of characters he voiced, looking forward to it. Here's hoping he can do Taikobou's signature laughter some justice

Well, he did play Raichi... people were pretty mixed on that particular casting choice, but I thought he pulled it off nicely.

I've never read the manga, but I do remember checking a few episodes of the original anime out years ago. I was fourteen and obsessed with Naruto, and Rock Lee was one of my favourite characters.

(In case anyone missed the reference- Lee's voice actor played Sibuxiang.)

Obelisk ze Tormentor

2017-07-31, 19:54

I remember watching Hoshin Engi anime yet it didn't make much impression to me. So let's hope this second roll will be better. Unfortunately, I've never actually followed the manga. I've only read random tankobon volumes of it to kill some time whenever my friends brought it back in middle & high school.

I personally still waiting for Hana no Keiji adaptation.Looking at the art-style, maybe David Production will be interested? :heh: And instead of re-doing YYH, why not adapting Flame or Recca that's heavily inspired by it? The last (and most important) arc of FoR haven't been adapted into anime yet and the older anime adaptation itself took some liberties with the manga (but not bad in and of itself). Just redo it like HxH 2011. If Ushio to Tora's complete anime adaptation can happen recently, FoR should be able too.

Wandering Soul

2017-07-31, 21:41

I've actually been planning to read the manga eventually, but I'd also be happy with a faithful anime adaption. Here's to hoping that we get a better adaption this time around.

SILENTANIMELOVER

2017-07-31, 22:57

Now if only we got announcements for Rurouni Kenshin and Shaman King remakes, then I'd be freaking ecstatic.

Fairy Water

2017-07-31, 23:58

Now if only we got announcements for Rurouni Kenshin and Shaman King remakes, then I'd be freaking ecstatic.

SK's author refused the remake offer, such an idiot :frustrated:

Obelisk ze Tormentor

2017-08-01, 00:03

Now if only we got announcements for Rurouni Kenshin and Shaman King remakes, then I'd be freaking ecstatic.When it comes to Shaman King...well...this (http://sgcafe.com/2017/02/shaman-king-mangaka-turned-new-anime-adaptation-wont-use-voice-cast/) happened. Let's hope all parties can reach a middle ground someday and bring us the best SK anime adaptation ever.

SK's author refused the remake offer, such an idiot :frustrated:Don't be so easy to insult someone for a mere piece of entertainment. He wants to make sure that the next anime-adaptation is great. I can't blame him for that. In this case, he has the final say (and it's for the best). Rather than watching a new trainwreck, I'd rather watch the old SK anime again (which is pretty good).

~Yami~

2017-08-01, 01:55

I believe we also need Flame of Recca remake to restore our childhood :heh:

Sage Shinigami

2017-08-01, 02:32

I believe we also need Flame of Recca remake to restore our childhood :heh:

What I wouldn't give to learn that someone was going to remake Flame of Recca. That's on the short list of series I think really need a remake to see it done proper justice.

MrTerrorist

2017-08-01, 02:57

Well this is a surprise. I remember watching the 1st anime. and it was kinda good.
So it looks like it's a remake and might be closer to the manga since i recall one villain in the anime had Heel Face Turn in the manga.

Marcus H.

2017-08-02, 18:59

What? Isn't this from long ago?

Obelisk ze Tormentor

2017-08-02, 20:12

What? Isn't this from long ago?Yeah, that's why they'll remake it.

Mad Pierrot

2017-08-02, 20:19

I remember watching Hoshin Engi anime yet it didn't make much impression to me.

I got the same feeling when watching its final anime fight. I found it too anticlimatic. Guess it was due to the fact the anime's ending was original.

Stark700

2017-08-02, 22:10

New Hoshin Engi TV Anime Reveals Visual (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-08-02/new-hoshin-engi-tv-anime-reveals-visual/.119659)

iko_uwais

2017-08-02, 22:50

I got the same feeling when watching its final anime fight. I found it too anticlimatic. Guess it was due to the fact the anime's ending was original.

the anime's second half was pretty much original

n0m@n

2017-08-29, 04:28

Wonder who the VA would be. So happy its getting a remake.

LevelSeven

2017-08-29, 05:13

i really cant wait, im more interested in this anime than any upcoming or currently running animes :love:

n0m@n

2017-08-29, 06:16

i really cant wait, im more interested in this anime than any upcoming or currently running animes :love:

So true. Since the first anime had anime original contents, I feel positive that this one will be faithful to the manga. Only thing Im worried about is the episode count.

Stark700

2017-09-29, 04:50

More cast announced.

Also, coming for January/Winter 2018
https://myanimelist.net/news/52489750

Sage Shinigami

2017-09-29, 09:43

So true. Since the first anime had anime original contents, I feel positive that this one will be faithful to the manga. Only thing Im worried about is the episode count.

The manga ran about 200 chapters. At 4 chapters an episode they could finish in a year.. Anything faster than that would be rushing, but surely they can at least manage a 52 episodes?

Mad Pierrot

2017-10-12, 10:56

Was really confused me in the first anime, is there were so little female characters? We only had the three antagonists and some that barely appeared. Does the manga have more?

iko_uwais

2017-10-12, 11:12

Was really confused me in the first anime, is there were so little female characters? We only had the three antagonists and some that barely appeared. Does the manga have more?

yes, from the heroes side, we have ryukitsu koushu and her two female disciples sekiun and hekiun, tousen gyoku, yukyou, The Unshou Three Sisters (one of my personal favorite expecially Venus:D)

Stark700

2017-10-30, 11:34

Character Designs

http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/2017-10-30/new-hoshin-engi-anime-reveals-11-character-designs/.123392

iko_uwais

2017-10-30, 14:55

If outenkun appears, it means they will adapt the whole manga, can’t wait for the sennin war arc

Mad Pierrot

2017-10-30, 15:06

Man, those character designs look a bit strange. I mean just look at Dakki. Guess the first anime censored her

Golden Lily

2017-10-30, 15:17

Fugen aside they look fine imo. Outenkun's appearance is surprising, but pleasing.

iko_uwais

2017-10-30, 15:19

Man, those character designs look a bit strange. I mean just look at Dakki. Guess the first anime censored her

Believe it or not, Dakki’s fanservice-ness is actually weaponized by her in the last arc

shmaster

2017-10-30, 15:47

Fugen aside they look fine imo. Outenkun's appearance is surprising, but pleasing.

They are doing the Senkai Taisen arc, that is why.

zztop

2017-10-30, 20:05

Those are some huuuge-as feet/shoes.
Does Fujisaki Ryu still draw feet to be that big?

Renchan

2017-10-30, 20:43

^not as big as HE era anymore.

I can't help but wonder why they choose those dull washed out colors that looks straight from early-2000s anime? I mean, the other FujiRyu anime (Shiki) has pretty normal color choice for its era.

serenade_beta

2017-10-30, 22:48

HMMMMM!! Fujiryu designs!
Man, the JP covers for the manga was so beautiful.

iko_uwais

2017-10-30, 23:06

HMMMMM!! Fujiryu designs!
Man, the JP covers for the manga was so beautiful.

You mean the Kanzenban covers? oh yes, they are just amazing.

BTW, I wonder ifTaikobou and Outenkun will have the same seiyuu?

Mad Pierrot

2017-10-31, 11:22

Also, I've been told that even the large boots serve as a plot point for Taikobou

Stark700

2017-10-31, 22:34

Preview:
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iko_uwais

2017-10-31, 23:01

Director: Aizawa Masahiro (using his alias Aizawa Kagetsu)
Series composition: Takahashi Natsuko
Screenplay: Yoshiki Okusa, Rintaro Ikeda
Character design: Yoshimitsu Yamashita
Music: Maiko Iuchi
Studio: C - Station

Some new seiyuu info:
Kou Hiko: Yoshimasa Hosoya
Fugen Shinjin: Nobunaga Shimazaki
Shinkouhyou: Kosuke Toriumi

Official title will be Hakyuu Houshin Engi
Will start airing January 12th Tokyo MX

The Taikoubou vs Bunchuu fight looks great, hopefully it won't disappoint

Renchan

2017-11-01, 00:14

Fugen Shinjin: Nobunaga Shimazaki

Aw, they missed the oppurtunity for Kaworu Nagisa jokes by not casting Ishida Akira. :heh:

The backgrounds during Taikoubou vs Bunchuu scene looks beautiful. I'm guessing the fight is going to be placed at the opening scene? Considering there rest of the PV scenes are from the first volume.

@Mad Pierrot
No, the big shoes (and hands) are just Fujiryu's style back then (or maybe even now?).

Kazu-kun

2017-11-01, 01:36

No, the big shoes (and hands) are just Fujiryu's style back then (or maybe even now?).

Actually Mad Pierrot is right. There is a plot explanation for the big feet.

Mad Pierrot

2017-11-01, 11:14

Weird that they still haven't shown the wingedman that can cause lightnings. I thought he was an early character

Nivek von Beldo

2017-11-01, 14:45

I watched this anime as a child...the design are faitful but still looks weirder that the original...must be the computer animation..so what is the new hook for this? an unadapted manga arc?.

Mangaka-chan

2017-11-02, 23:29

I remember signing that petition years ago, but I honestly didn't expect to see anything come out of it! From the PV and character list it seems pretty certain we're gonna go up to the Sennin Wars arc. I hope this show is getting a good size budget so we'll see the manga adapted, finally, in its entirety.

Fairy Water

2017-11-03, 12:53

I watched this anime as a child...the design are faitful but still looks weirder that the original...must be the computer animation..so what is the new hook for this? an unadapted manga arc?.
Looks pretty close to Fujiryu's design to me.
Expected Dakki to look even more sexy, they let me down...

Sage Shinigami

2017-11-03, 13:49

I watched this anime as a child...the design are faitful but still looks weirder that the original...must be the computer animation..so what is the new hook for this? an unadapted manga arc?.

No need for a hook. The original series was a 26 episode hackjob on the manga. This presumably won't be. Though I haven't read Houshin Engi in so long I wouldn't know if it was lol.

Stark700

2017-11-21, 12:35

More cast announced:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-21/new-hoshin-engi-anime-casts-yoko-hikasa-daisuke-namikawa-nobuhiko-okamoto/.124322

Kazu-kun

2017-11-21, 14:04

Yōko Hikasa as Dakki

Holy shit, this is gonna be so fucking cool.

Mad Pierrot

2017-11-21, 15:05

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/fit650x650/cms/news/124322/zhou.png.jpg
This dude doesn't have huge boots

serenade_beta

2017-11-21, 19:05

Always kinda felt sorry for the emperor.

Stark700

2017-12-15, 22:25

Preview

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23 episodes +1 special
https://twitter.com/WTK/status/941926515670790144

Renchan

2017-12-16, 11:59

I hope 23 episodes only cover up to sennin war arc (or up to the end of In arc) not the entire manga.

Let the final arc get its own 12 episodes or something.

Mad Pierrot

2017-12-17, 10:03

Only 23?! Isn't that the actual length of the manga?

Also, all the character designs seem like "younger" when compared to the first anime

LG-MAX 2.o

2018-01-01, 08:30

new key visual

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max650x650/cms/daily-briefs/125947/hoshin-engi-new-kv.jpg

Sage Shinigami

2018-01-01, 11:53

Preview

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23 episodes +1 special
https://twitter.com/WTK/status/941926515670790144

Two adaptations and they're both trash? Disappointing.

LG-MAX 2.o

2018-01-01, 13:38

Two adaptations and they're both trash? Disappointing.

it is during these hours that a competent director is essential. Moreover, after Houzuki, nothing prevents it from being a divided season.

Sage Shinigami

2018-01-01, 15:29

it is during these hours that a competent director is essential. Moreover, after Houzuki, nothing prevents it from being a divided season.

That's a fair point. If they split it in half 23 episodes is definitely enough to cover one hundred chapters if you're careful. Magi and JoJo did it without much issue.

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-01, 20:37

*sweating* Even the 27 volume long FMA manga was adapted into 64 episodes. I haven't watched Hozuki but I hope the staff members are highly aware of the manga's length.

Stark700

2018-01-09, 16:14

Crunchyroll will stream it

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2018/01/09-1/crunchyroll-to-simulcast-hakyu-hoshin-engi-and-the-silver-guardian-2-anime

Stark700

2018-01-12, 10:48

Episode 1:

This was an interesting episode. From that catchy OP song to the character cast and colorful world setting, it seems like a show that I think has a lot of potential.

The way they introduced the characters so far is interesting, almost all of them stand out in some way or another especially Dakki with her dark intentions. I'm even interested in knowing more about Taikoubou with his character role.

Overall, interesting stuff. I like the Chinese style of the setting as well.

bakato

2018-01-12, 16:11

Never read the source material or the previous anime, but I like what I'm seeing so far. Character designs and animation seemed clunky, but there was plenty of good humor, action, and music. Definitely a keeper.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-12, 19:35

The Series was different(of course is a remake) that remember, more on the comedy side(or maybe the original was more good with their melodrama) but still just like remembered, pretty good, so we going to get the truth ending here.

for all dubs and subs...translated the titles, i remember the original(they keep the proper historical title in spanish equivalent) but the new ones are incomplete, use the proper translation(great general, governator,etc)

RDNexus

2018-01-12, 20:08

Wandering Soul

2018-01-12, 20:16

I had this feeling Ep01 was kinda rushed.
Is any Manga Reader here? If yes, could you please confirm or not if it was rushed?

And BTW, how would the title be translated more literally? Instead of Soul Hunter...
Your not the only one. The first half wasnot too bad, but it felt like some material was rushed through in the second half.

serenade_beta

2018-01-12, 20:52

*throws hat onto the ground*

Goddamn it, if you have to re-animate this manga, get enough time (cour) to do it properly.
If you can't do that, then start the story at a place where you can actually not break the speed limits and not scare away any person that never watched the original.

But what do we get? The most rushed crap I've ever see. They slap lines and scenes from the manga, but it makes little sense because of everything else they skipped.
For instance, Supushan talks about Taikoubou's intelligence... which is definitely not shown in the episode.

On top of that, despite finally re-animating the manga, the quality isn't even that good.
The OP hardly moves...
And what is that song? Do I really need to find a link to the original OP? Just what part of that electrical rock rambling that doesn't even sound like a human language fits this story?

As for the voices... Well, there is just too much bad going on that I am almost willing to put it aside.

I knew it wouldn't be pretty when I heard it was 2-cour, but to think they would try to start from the very beginning.

TheForsaken

2018-01-12, 21:08

I had this feeling Ep01 was kinda rushed.
Is any Manga Reader here? If yes, could you please confirm or not if it was rushed?
Yes, the first episode skimmed through the first volume and a bit of the second volume of the manga.
After Taikobo was blasted away by Shinkohyo and before he went to the capital, he had a fight with one of Dakki's underling. Basically a tutorial fight, in most shounen anime this will become your standard first episode. The enemy is unimportant, so nothing is lost here.

The introduction of Dakki and her sisters (you can see Dakki's two sisters in one scene). Well, they can always do that later.

Taikobo's plot to kidnap the emperor is incredibly rushed. In the manga, when Taikobo came to the capital, one of Dakki's sister confronted him. He defeated her and hold her hostage, and Dakki was forced to welcome him to the palace and let him do whatever he liked. Taikobo wanted to use this chance to kidnap the emperor, but in the end he got tricked by Dakki, who rescued her sister and stole Supu and his paopei. The aftermath is the same.
Yes, many things were skipped, but I can understand why they did it.
This, after all, is just the prologue where Taikobo tried to confront Dakki for the first time and failed miserably. Spending two or more episodes in it is a bad idea.
Now we move to the main story, I believe it will slow down.

And BTW, how would the title be translated more literally? Instead of Soul Hunter...
God Sealing Saga? Or Romance of God Sealing ("romance" as in Romance of the Three Kingdoms)

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-12, 21:13

Mother of all expositions! The setting, Taikobo's past, Supushan out of nowhere, Dakki, Koh Hiko, etc. If it weren't for the fact I watched the first series as a kid, then I would be completely lost XD Even the first anime's first episode ended with Shinkoyo taking down Taikobo rather than Taikobo's journey

At least the animation is epic.

BTW, how did Shinkoyo discover so quickly he was in the Project Hoshin and that Taikobo was the user? And episode 1 and Taikobo already feels that he will never win

TheForsaken

2018-01-12, 21:24

The old anime is as slow as the manga, but on the other hand it only managed to adapt the first half and had an original ending.
So I just can't like it, since the second part of Houshin Engi is the most epic shit I've ever read, with awesome characters and plot twists.

serenade_beta

2018-01-12, 22:27

God Sealing Saga? Or Romance of God Sealing ("romance" as in Romance of the Three Kingdoms)

Or you could just go by its original source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_of_the_Gods

dragon1412

2018-01-13, 01:38

Hoshin Engi fans assemble !!!!, but yeah, not a really good remake, rushing is 1 thing, but I'm more on the line of they are skipping details, people can't follow what the character do since many detail in-between rather than just issues of rushing, the OP is actually not that bad, but compare to the original one is just terrible, why put some metal rock in there, reuse the original and I would scream my heart out anyway/

The correct translation, literally is, Ordained of the gods, which spoke about the plan to endowed Xian(Sennin) or sage, demons and heroic warriors with position of gods to control them.

shmaster

2018-01-13, 01:55

After Taikobo was blasted away by Shinkohyo and before he went to the capital, he had a fight with one of Dakki's underling. Basically a tutorial fight, in most shounen anime this will become your standard first episode. The enemy is unimportant, so nothing is lost here.

What are you talking about.
Taikobo gets one of the key item from that tutorial fight.
Tenka is so going to die in a certain fight later on if he doesn't have that.

wghokay

2018-01-13, 18:09

I am very happy that Hoshin Engi is being remade. It was my favorite animes from my childhood, and the animation quality of the remake is top-notch.

With that being said, I think it will be much better if we instead start from Maka Yonshou arc for the remake, since that is where the old anime started to diverge from the manga.

By the way, does anyone notice the lack of Raishinshi in the OP of the anime?

He was a main character in the original anime, but then got relegated to irrelevance towards the end of the original manga, and it seems like he will just get forgotten from the beginning in the remake.

Mangaka-chan

2018-01-13, 20:52

Surprisingly I thought the first episode was alright, despite a lot of stuff getting cut. Part of it is probably because it's been ages since I last read the beginning of the manga, and they kept enough of the main points in the intro that I at least didn't miss any of the cut material. The art is pretty close to Ryu Fujisaki's original style, clown shoes, giant gloves and all, and it brings back a lot of nostalgia, because there really isn't any other show with a design like this. Some people may find it ugly and/or weird, but it is pretty darn unmistakable. I will say though, that I wasn't expecting them to start the story with a fight between Bunchuu and Taikoubo, but I suppose they're trying to show off the exciting stuff now to rope in potential new viewers? But with no context I think it's more confusing than enticing...

The only thing I am a bit disappointed with right now is the opening, and it's not necessarily because it's electronic music (after all, the manga did have a sci-fi edge to it), but more because the lyrics are sung so incoherently that I can't tell what language they're in. :uhoh: As much as I hate on the old anime adaptation for cutting short the story and giving it nonsensical original ending, it had great OP and ED songs. My guess is we'll get to hear the ED next week, and it'll hopefully be a better fit for the show.

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-19, 12:14

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-19, 16:26

Okay, episode 2 felt really superior to the pilot. It appears nothing was censored. Nataku was shown without any rush except for that final part where the Sennin took him away. I thought Taikobo would still take the untrained Nataku. I wonder who will be his next ally. I look forward to this series happily if they keep the plot at this pacing.

I'm getting lost with some names. I only remember Taikobo (the Spanish dub I watched as a kid simply called him Taikun), Dakki, Nataku and Hiko.

I've the opposite, the old series taking the time fleshed out more both Nataku/Naza and the rebellion and we've soon to meet the west prince(the Human MC of this story alongside the emperor children) and was a little rushed but better as is a short remake, i wanted a long one, maybe tastes..

Did you watched in latin american spanish too?(locomotion), he was callled both Taikobo and Taikun, Nataku was short as Naza, Dakki is in both version but i didn't know the brown haired general was Hiko too

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-19, 18:01

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-19, 18:07

So we are both from from South America, Nivek von Beldo? I don't remember the original Hoshin Engi too much, but I feel like episode 2 of Hakyu felt easier to follow than Hakyu's episode 1. I mean episode had a lot of stories combined. Instead, episode 2 only focused on Nataku (also, on the guy with three eyes too a little) which felt easier to follow.

Also, I need a manga expert. Is Taikobo a Sennin expert or still a rookie? I mean in episode 1 the elder said he would leave him out of his realm if he didn't take his mission. However, in episode 2 another Sennin comes to assist Taikobo with Nataku which made it sound like Taikobo is more important.

Yes, which country in the region? Locomotion(who sony buy and become animax before killing it...i hate sony so much) showed Soul Hunter as one of their flagship and i still remember that anime livid(sadly was too young to properly understand, when saw the info of remake was a rush to see it).

The issue is dunno manga(will read it when all of this is over) but in the original anime, we've a episode of the intrigue of Dakki with both generals and later we see Nataku with one and half episode(the other half was the rebellion aftermatch) so things did go here to ligthing pace but dunno how is in front the manga.

In the old anime he was a rookie and still in formation/studies and he have a big role later on,unless that was an anime only plot twist...

shmaster

2018-01-19, 19:49

Redhazard

2018-01-19, 20:12

So I get that they are trying to push Bunchuu but man, this episode had awful structure.

Also, I need a manga expert. Is Taikobo a Sennin expert or still a rookie? I mean in episode 1 the elder said he would leave him out of his realm if he didn't take his mission. However, in episode 2 another Sennin comes to assist Taikobo with Nataku which made it sound like Taikobo is more important.

The elder is the leader of the entire mountain. Taikoubou is his number 1 (and only) disciple. As such, even if he is only an apprentice, he has a fair amount of authority.

shmaster

2018-01-19, 20:36

So I get that they are trying to push Bunchuu but man, this episode had awful structure.

The elder is the leader of the entire mountain. Taikoubou is his number 1 (and only) disciple. As such, even if he is only an apprentice, he has a fair amount of authority.

No, the 12 senin are all Genshi' students. Taikobo is the youngest one.

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-20, 20:03

Interesting. Is Doushi a word from Chinese mythology?

TheForsaken

2018-01-20, 20:20

"Doushi" literally means "Taoist".
Many characters are from Taoism, for example this is Genshi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuanshi_Tianzun

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-20, 20:28

Now, I am even more interested. I googled Taikobo and the first thing I found was Jiang Ziya. I guess the author is a fan of China.

shmaster

2018-01-20, 21:39

Now, I am even more interested. I googled Taikobo and the first thing I found was Jiang Ziya. I guess the author is a fan of China.

Will, Hoshin Engi is a Chinese fantasy novel from the old times.
Fujisaki Ryu based his manga on it, although with a lot of changes.

Mangaka-chan

2018-01-20, 22:30

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-20, 23:30

The original Fengshen Yanyi novel is very heavily steeped in Chinese myths and folklore, and Ryu Fujisaki really put his own spin on just about everything in the story. As someone who's of Chinese descent, reading the manga wasn't too bad, especially since I'm familiar with a lot of the terms and characters as a part of my culture. But I feel like one reason why Houshin Engi didn't do well outside of Asia is that the unfamiliar terminology and absence of a pre-existing knowledge about much of the mythos turned people off. Combine that with the gobs and gobs of named characters and at times quirky humor and unique art style probably made it even harder to popularize outside of Asia.

It was ultra Popular in spanish speaking countries and they used more chinese name with human characther ( the non Jeep the same) and the anime was exclusive to satellite TV so people watched it in group, i remember that ( used to have satellite). But yeah i'm English speaking is almost a footnote , hope this one can change it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-ljPPZis0
New anime with the superior OP

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-26, 15:45

Redhazard

2018-01-26, 19:35

The Anime is going full steam ahead, Koh Hiko and Youzen were far more ahead and we meet Ligthing and his father the lord of the west first, seems either manga was different or his anime is going fast pace

Half and half. The first anime switched up some things. Youzen appears before Lightning dude (this anime is likely going to skip him by the way) in the manga. That said, Hiko rebelling is supposed to be happening much later.

Either way, it's rushing things, but less so than the other episodes.

Mad Pierrot

2018-01-26, 21:02

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-26, 21:36

Renchan

2018-01-27, 18:15

By Lightning dude you mean the one with wings? :( Also, I remember Taikobo wasn't even afraid of Yozen/Dakki when first seeing him in the first anime. Don't remember if there were also more tests in the first anime. Still, that test where Taikobo lost a blood felt weird. Is a goshi so powerful he can't die despite these wounds

]Still, something is bothering me. The writers try to pull comedy in really serious parts like when the Emperors wanted to touch Hiko's wife and a minute later we had quite a gruesome death.

Doushis are more resilient than human, but they can still die of blood loss. Treat that scene as your usual shounen wound than anything realistic (blood don't spurts like that). :uhoh:

The extra tests and the comedic part was in the manga too. The manga generally has pretty comedic but serious tone, while the old anime tries to make stuff bleaker. Hell, I remember that Bunchuu (and a certain someone) fight was the most serious fight from the start to finish. Even the last boss battle has plenty of comedic scenes. :heh:

Next episode has Ki Shou related scenes, maybe Raishinshi will appear.... Don't get your hope up though.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-01-27, 18:29

Doushis are more resilient than human, but they can still die of blood loss. Treat that scene as your usual shounen wound than anything realistic (blood don't spurts like that). :uhoh:

The extra tests and the comedic part was in the manga too. The manga generally has pretty comedic but serious tone, while the old anime tries to make stuff bleaker. Hell, I remember that Bunchuu (and a certain someone) fight was the most serious fight from the start to finish. Even the last boss battle has plenty of comedic scenes. :heh:

Next episode has Ki Shou related scenes, maybe Raishinshi will appear.... Don't get your hope up though.

That is what i want i want to hear, seems this closer to manga as 1999 was more melodramatic, thanks

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-02, 16:34

The hamburger scene. They made it into a black comedy.... ;_; I was like they wouldn't do something like that.

Is Tenka a regular human? I mean, he is quite powerful. Still what was with that first scene where he interacts with Taikobo?

Kazu-kun

2018-02-02, 17:09

The hamburger scene. They made it into a black comedy.... ;_; I was like they wouldn't do something like that.

It was like that in the manga too though. It perfectly exemplifies Dakki's twisted personality.

Is Tenka a regular human? I mean, he is quite powerful.

No. Only humans with some specific physical conditions can become sennin. Hiko's entire family has that condition. That's why Tenka was scouted.

Still what was with that first scene where he interacts with Taikobo

A flashforward to a later point in time (much later).

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-09, 14:31

Bunchu already? Still, if Bunchu has that much power, Taikobo will need to train or something if he wants to take down Dakki.

Also, I guess the first scene was a flashforward

wuhugm

2018-02-09, 14:37

Dakki best girl

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-09, 14:47

Dakki best girl

One of the few so far. The only ones are her sister and Hiko's late wife. :uhoh:

Nivek von Beldo

2018-02-09, 15:34

Bunchu already? Still, if Bunchu has that much power, Taikobo will need to train or something if he wants to take down Dakki.

Also, I guess the first scene was a flashforward
This series uses flashforward and more manga exclusive detailes, the first anime seems even something more original with this hindsight, still we're going fast pace here

Dakki best girl
This series itself have few girls, this is more old school shonen in more male dominated so that is normal don't worry the lack of girls.

Renchan

2018-02-09, 20:14

The hamburger scene. They made it into a black comedy.... ;_; I was like they wouldn't do something like that.

It was in the original novel as well, albeit the dish wasn't modern hamburg steak.

Whoa they sped up the shisei fight, they didn't even show Nataku's fight. Shame we didn't see Taikoubou's drunken fist. :heh:

there will be girls... Few girls. Though, at this rate I'm not sure if the'll appear. :uhoh:
Speaking which, whatever happened to chu-ou's sons? I really hope they won't cut them considering they have more importance than Raishinshi.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-02-16, 11:33

Ko Hiko/Lord of the west die so fast here, in the old anime he died till the end, and the emperor is already becoming the monster he will become...and we've not meet his children yet

The battle of sennin..or i can't recall it or that is new content.....

So next week is a full One Hour chapter or something? as they warned us that next one is an special..or a regular alongside a compilatory/summary one?

RDNexus

2018-02-16, 12:23

Even after all this time, I still don't understand the motives for Dakki's actions...

Nivek von Beldo

2018-02-16, 12:25

Even after all this time, I still don't understand the motives for Dakki's actions...

in the original was more it amused her, seems she is the seductress/female satan in all east asian mythologies(korean guniho, japanese tamamo no mae)

RDNexus

2018-02-16, 12:31

Such a simple and foolish reason? No redeeming features, then :mad:

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-16, 12:57

Dakki seems to be hiding something very important. I don't know what she actually wants to do with the King Yin considering he appears to have amnesia related to her now, but she also kind of said she is supposed to be evil or something. It sounds too fishy.

Still, there is something I'm lost. Was Taikobo once a Kyo human who was taken by the Sennin to become immortal? I was confused with how he implied he was over 30s and yet he looks like a teen.

Also, Bunchu is another immortal or something like that right? His powers surpassed almost everyone so far.

RDNexus

2018-02-16, 13:15

Nivek von Beldo

2018-02-16, 14:23

I have this impression that those taken as disciples of the Sennin either have their time severely slowed down or become immortal or something.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable could ascertain that matter.

Yet to read the manga but in the anime(original story)

The Sannin are not that benevolent or are more like pushing humanity and Dakki was one of their servant to force humanity ie china to abandon a complascencing a failing dinasty

Dakki seems to be hiding something very important. I don't know what she actually wants to do with the King Yin considering he appears to have amnesia related to her now, but she also kind of said she is supposed to be evil or something. It sounds too fishy.

Still, there is something I'm lost. Was Taikobo once a Kyo human who was taken by the Sennin to become immortal? I was confused with how he implied he was over 30s and yet he looks like a teen.

Also, Bunchu is another immortal or something like that right? His powers surpassed almost everyone so far.
Remember Sennin is like 'magical creature, can be trasnlated as fairy or djinnn' in ancient chinese, the people with Sannin bones have chance to transcendt their humanity and become Sannin, Taikobou was one, the Family of the Buseioh is one so unique all the childrens of his are candidates to sannin, even the same Buseioh, and Bunchuu..he trained in the island is now moving, is a sannin too

TheForsaken

2018-02-16, 14:23

Humans who are taken to the Sennin world to train become immortal.
Taikobo is 60 and Bunchu is about 300 years old if I remember correctly.

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-16, 14:33

I see. Thanks for the info

serenade_beta

2018-02-16, 21:43

Random seemingly important man appears, suddenly becomes sick, and suddenly dies.
Awesome remake.
:bash:

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-16, 21:46

Random seemingly important man appears, suddenly becomes sick, and suddenly dies.
Awesome remake.
:bash:

I guess this is what happens when you rush the elder seeing his son's body as a burger. :uhoh:

Cosmic Eagle

2018-02-16, 22:34

I just realized now why Shinkohyo's voice is so familiar.....it's Toriumi lmao

RDNexus

2018-02-19, 14:04

Nivek von Beldo

2018-02-19, 14:16

ANN: Fan Criticizes Hakyū Hōshin Engi Anime, Starts Petition Asking for Staff Explanation (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-02-19/fan-criticizes-hakyu-hoshin-engi-anime-starts-petition-asking-for-staff-explanation/.127892)

That fan shares all our gripes...did they cut another characther? well now is a manga read again.

Well, i still like this anime.

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-19, 14:40

Guess I saw this criticism coming after that really rushed first episode

Nivek von Beldo

2018-02-19, 14:58

Guess I saw this criticism coming after that really rushed first episode

And the first one wasn't that rushed, 2 and 3 did where more but seems japanese wanted something bigger, like a 52 episode one that fully animated everything from manga.

Mangaka-chan

2018-02-19, 16:08

People can criticize a show all they want, but money doesn't grow on trees; unless they can provide the money to make it the way they see fit, the fact of the matter is the studios and production committees will do what they deem is best for a property.

Mad Pierrot

2018-02-19, 17:16

And the first one wasn't that rushed, 2 and 3 did where more but seems japanese wanted something bigger, like a 52 episode one that fully animated everything from manga.

The first anime's pilot episode only focused in a single fight and Taikobo was easier to understand. In Hakyu's pilot, we get Taikobo's first fight, his attempt to fight Dakki, his postrauma after people from his clan are killed and finally his relationship with the guy with light blue hair. There were way too many expositions in Hakyu's pilot. If it weren't for the fact I knew about the series, I would have been totally confused

Nivek von Beldo

2018-03-02, 15:46

shmaster

2018-03-03, 20:24

Okay, cutting Chou Ko Mei is too much.
He is like, the most entertaining character of the series.

Uribatake

2018-03-03, 20:36

Wasn't this chapter supposed to be a one hour special? what happened? did was moved or the 30 minutes were recompilatory ones?

No, the special aired on 2/23, and it was just a behind-the-scenes look at the show, with some voice actor interviews.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-03-03, 21:58

No, the special aired on 2/23, and it was just a behind-the-scenes look at the show, with some voice actor interviews.

Ah..well thanks for the info( that is why nobody subbed it?) Well and i was expecting a long chapter, thanks

Renchan

2018-03-04, 10:07

Okay, cutting Chou Ko Mei is too much.
He is like, the most entertaining character of the series.

and the Yin princes.
First his wife, now his sons got cut, trully being Chuou is suffering.

Also I'm horribly disappointed with Chou Koumei fights getting the cut. No dumb fake ending for Housin Engi,

AnimeFan188

2018-03-04, 23:15

Wasn't this chapter supposed to be a one hour special? what happened? did was moved or the 30 minutes were recompilatory ones?

But what a chapter, we got manga characther, the Kingo Island vs Konron feels like a full fledge spaceship battle on earth and was nicely done even if a little strangely design and Yozen..that is his full power, woah.

With Bunchu in the lead, as usual. If he was serious about protecting the empire, he
should have destroyed Dakki a long time ago. Now she has the emperor wrapped
around her little finger as she throws the empire into chaos. While Bunchu obsesses
over external threats and ignores the enemy within.

For someone who calls himself a perceptor, he's not very perceptive.

TheForsaken

2018-03-05, 04:37

With Bunchu in the lead, as usual. If he was serious about protecting the empire, he
should have destroyed Dakki a long time ago. Now she has the emperor wrapped
around her little finger as she throws the empire into chaos. While Bunchu obsesses
over external threats and ignores the enemy within.

For someone who calls himself a perceptor, he's not very perceptive.
Because he thinks that he can drive her away again like how he did 60 years ago, then fix the damage that has been done.
Emperors come and go, but the Yin dynasty survives.
On the other hand, the "external threat" wants to destroy the Yin and replace it with a new dynasty, which is unacceptable to him.

BTW, he is the Preceptor, not Perceptor :heh:

AnimeFan188

2018-03-06, 00:11

Because he thinks that he can drive her away again like how he did 60 years ago, then fix the damage that has been done.

If he drove her away 60 years ago, why didn't he destroy her (or at least send her running again) immediately
when she came back?

Mad Pierrot

2018-03-09, 12:18

With these montain-mechas, I just found the title "Hakyu Hoshin Engi episode 8: The Last Sennin" kind of fitting

Nivek von Beldo

2018-03-09, 15:25

With these montain-mechas, I just found the title "Hakyu Hoshin Engi episode 8: The Last Sennin" kind of fitting

And the ramming strategy too....Damn and now we've to wait till next week to see what will happen now

So Yozen and Othenkun were each other side ward..interesting story that and how dakki played Othenkun like a fiddle

So we learned a lot now about 'Dakki', so she is a serpent or Fox(tamamo no mae original legend?) spirit posessed different woman for her plans? that was a good twist.

Renchan

2018-03-14, 01:44

So we learned a lot now about 'Dakki', so she is a serpent or Fox(tamamo no mae original legend?) spirit posessed different woman for her plans? that was a good twist.

Dakki is a nine tailed fox youkai a.k.a Tamamo no Mae (or if you watch Ushio to Tora, Hakumen no mono :heh:). I don't recall her ever shown in her youkai form like in the manga like this, but she's definitely referred as fox-- vixen by nearly every sennin/doushi.

Despite all the cut, Ou tenkun's past actually got some additional scenes and foreshadowing, it honestly feels even more disturbing now.

Mad Pierrot

2018-03-14, 15:12

Isn't its name supposed to be Kitsune?

Renchan

2018-03-15, 20:34

Isn't its name supposed to be Kitsune?
Kitsune only means fox as in actual animal not specifically refer to the 9 tail, it can be used to to refer any other fox youkai (9 tail or not).

Daji/Dakki is the most well known nine tails, thanks to Fengshen Yanyi/Houshin Engi. While Tamamo legend is a some sort Japanese adaptation (or sequel?:heh:) of Daji's myth.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-03-16, 11:50

Well again jumping forward and backward, the whole Taikobou and Othenkun as two side of the Douji.

Well that space manipulation are pretty big..did Kingo island was long in the manga?

Hang it there Yozen

Uribatake

2018-03-17, 10:03

Compared to the previous ones, this week's episode was so slow-paced that I'm starting to wonder if the show really intends to cover the manga's ending. Maybe the ending point will be the conclusion to the Great Sennin War instead.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-03-23, 11:31

Woah what chapter...yeah Yozen, the one you expected was always at your side.

Woah the chapter was amazing, the more melodramatic pace here make sense.

So Insect...in which context, the preview make were all context.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-03-30, 19:01

So that was the insect..i thought that was an othenkun insult but well, that was ingenous from the Koh...and we learned when Oda copied the artstyle of one piece.

yeah the big battle is coming, this arc is amazing.

We learned a lot of dakki...nice

Renchan

2018-03-30, 22:25

What was the purpose of cutting Sengyoku's (the readhead girl) scenes during the fight with the toy Juttenkun if she still appear anyway? :heh:

She was supposed to go with Gyokutei and Taikoubou as guide (she's originally from Kingo). The battle with the toys is more or less the same though, with her as the first victims and Suupu as the second. Hell, her doll form still appear in the anime for whatever reason. :eyespin:

And about Tenka's group, I really hope they'll release OVAs about that one arc that got skipped, because I'm sure as hell anime-only fans are baffled with the three sisters' existence. :heh:

RDNexus

2018-03-31, 02:40

I wouldn't hold a candle to that. Being the rushed adaptation it's been so far, such things are bound to keep happening.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-04-06, 11:59

The difference here is day and night and the angel fought here..woah a Paopei over chemistry reactions, that is all natural forces at work.

So that is what is Dakki doing her action, release that thing...and must be something pretty important so what is why dakki want it out...

So Mirror and we got the Taikobou vs Othenkun moment finally...yeah those are the dark mirror each other

Nivek von Beldo

2018-04-13, 11:36

So we got a divided soul with the Ou Eki was divided to the one become Othenkun and the other was given to taikobou...that is a genuine plot twist... i thought the whole mirror did refer to the road not take that take each Sennin...but well still is a mirror in a way.

So this was a hidden recap chapter..damn...i hate those even more traditional recap ones. still since the first mirror(supushan) jump to minute 18 that is the original content start again.

Post credits...another genuine plot twist, we learned a lot what Dakki is trully doing and that tease at the end.

Next Chaper is parasite....ummm

Nivek von Beldo

2018-04-20, 11:00

So we got new OP and ED..and i don't like it, i loved Madoi Mirai and get used to Keep the fire. Still maybe will get use to it.

So that was the parasyte, that was a massive trick from Othenkun and one weakened a lot of people, but the one still avaible will give a big fight.

So Atlantic Ocean? that is so far away of China? so Horai/Penglai was on the Atlantic? that is why the asians never found it.

Why? WTH WHY? Another compliatory chapter, we already get one with Taikobou why another? that grey alieness and her tv. DAMN Joka, Damn you to the hell....

Nivek von Beldo

2018-05-04, 11:28

So Igo have 60000 of HP? how much would have others...

So Bunchu is travelling west...so he taking all the way to europe to the atlantic ocean? that is a long trip,

Yozen is showing what is his true true form.

Amazing chapter world the wait.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-05-11, 14:53

Genshitenson looked so livid, so pragmatical, even more soul hunter plot twist here.

The chapter was the resolution, a shame othenkun goes away so easily, he deserved worse, seems Bunchu vs Taikobou is coming. Nice of Yozen accept his heritage and a final sayonara with his chichihue.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-05-18, 10:58

So like in the old series the sacred beast are trully incredible creatures and we meet Supushan dad.

Well Bunchu is the loyal soldier till the bitter end of Yin, at least Fugen tried

Taikobou is hardcore to avoid fall into sleep.

Next chapter will be amazing

Anh_Minh

2018-05-21, 10:21

Supu Shan is more than 1500 years old?

Nivek von Beldo

2018-05-21, 11:33

Supu Shan is more than 1500 years old?

Chinese mythology, for them years are like days

Anh_Minh

2018-05-21, 12:05

I'm just surprised he's so much older than Taikobou. Or Bunchu, for that matter.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-05-25, 11:33

Well, this was Bunchu Chapter, even if the next one is the title one,we learned a lot of Bunchu motivations and the battle was something and now taikobou is on the game.

Dakki...what is her plan all along? still the guide of history is something

Poor Chu, he ended all alone and now noticed it, poor guy

Nivek von Beldo

2018-06-01, 10:46

Well Bunchu is trully something with this chapter, even combined attack failed and Bunchu is going all out

Who was the one showed the future to Taikobou? seems interesting the details now with that Guide of Story too

Uribatake

2018-06-02, 08:52

It's kind of funny that the show is so slow-paced nowadays that they even have to include flashbacks to events from skipped chapters and flashforwards to chapters that won't be covered in order to fill up the running time. Still, I wish the whole manga could have been adapted at this pace, although that would take up over 100 episodes, which no production committee would want to invest in. This adaptation has such high and consistent production values that I can't help thinking about what could have been.

Who was the one showed the future to Taikobou? seems interesting the details now with that Guide of Story too

That's Taijou Roukun, one of the Three Great Sennin.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-06-08, 10:41

It's kind of funny that the show is so slow-paced nowadays that they even have to include flashbacks to events from skipped chapters and flashforwards to chapters that won't be covered in order to fill up the running time. Still, I wish the whole manga could have been adapted at this pace, although that would take up over 100 episodes, which no production committee would want to invest in. This adaptation has such high and consistent production values that I can't help thinking about what could have been.

That's Taijou Roukun, one of the Three Great Sennin.

I still wonder what Shuiseia was thinking with this adaptation, was not cheaper straight to DVD/BLURAY remake? was that tv money that necessary? maybe they should have talked with netflix.

This chapter, and we learned a lot of Joka, the world and the plans...and seems next chapter is filling the gaps.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-06-15, 10:24

This anime have a problem and is Bunchu....that is the same in the manga? were dakki? were is Joka and so on.

Nivek von Beldo

2018-06-29, 11:42

Two Adaptations without ending...just read the manga

What the hell was shueshia thinking?

Uribatake

2018-06-29, 21:41

This adaptation really was aimed at fans of the manga who just wanted to see the Great Sennin War arc animated, even if that meant condensing or just plain skipping everything else.

I mean, after ignoring Raishinshi for the entire series, what was even the point of having him show up at the end (and voiced by Yusuke Kobayashi, no less)? Even more baffling was how they mixed the Great Sennin War's aftermath with the manga's very last chapter, barely summing up how Dakki merged with the Earth and not even showing how Taikoubou defeated Joka.

And most frustrating of all: this episode looked great, like pretty much the entire series. It's almost unfair how an ill-conceived adaptation like this had such high production values while well-written shows like Golden Kamuy and Full Metal Panic IV are plagued by inconsistent animation that looks embarassingly bad at times.