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shukaku
2004-06-04, 12:46
Yes yes there was no sense in this aion's end. Moreover all those who are angry against Gonzo i totally agree cause they have destroyed the story of Daisuke Moriyama. So please Gonzo don't do anime with demons anymore, this is the worst ending of a evil character after Incognito in hellsing. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Colonel-
2004-06-04, 12:49
And yet in the final battle between Aion and Chrno, there's 2 seconds of action. And Rosette's action is beyond explanation! Fucking Gonzo you fucking suck you are the suckiest suck suckers that ever sucked,

shukaku
2004-06-04, 12:57
And yet in the final battle between Aion and Chrno, there's 2 seconds of action. And Rosette's action is beyond explanation! Fucking Gonzo you fucking suck you are the suckiest suck suckers that ever sucked,
An eagle is a protected specie so chrno will have to go in jail since he stabbed this poor animal. ARG Gonzo why aren't you followed the manga, shame on this company, SHAME on this fucking compagny!!!!!!!!!

Guido
2004-06-04, 13:00
I haven't seen the episode yet, maybe because I'm waiting for the subs to be released.

Goodness, you guys are really passionate critics.


The following link leads to screenshots taken from episode 23, although few and not spoilerish. Just scroll down the screen to see them.
http://wgalland.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

Thanks to Sonhex for providing the link.

Za Paper
2004-06-04, 13:02
Thats been Gonzo's problem all along. They have some really shitty scriptwriters and it doesnt look like they are getting any better.

shukaku
2004-06-04, 13:46
First this episode was just poor quality anime particulary for aion true form and chrno true form, but we don't have to expect to have a good ending, Rosette will die and chrno too, so even the good characters won't be saved.

Yamano667
2004-06-04, 17:14
Well they will never get any better :D but overal it was a great series to finish :)

wArSpItE64
2004-06-04, 20:58
what happend at the end of 23? made no sence...
did everyone just die? it like cut to the search scean... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :hmm:

Princess_of_Hell
2004-06-04, 22:24
It's not over yet. Episode 24 comes out soon, entitled "Chrno".

Some of you guys didn't even watch it all the way probably.

shukaku
2004-06-05, 16:10
It's not over yet. Episode 24 comes out soon, entitled "Chrno".

Some of you guys didn't even watch it all the way probably.
This episode 24 may have got some surprises, first of all where is pandemonium's head??? Does Aion eat the head before having been cut in two by chrno????? Moreover there is a big mistake, we see aion lose his arm and when he is cut into two he has his two arms????? That shows the bad work of Gonzo!! And the final question is what is that hole that Remington sees in the place where the eagle has been cut???? So maybe that an ultimate aion will kick the ass of chrno??? After all if aion's horns are shining red at the episode's end it could be not over???? THE ULTIMATE GONZO'S SURPRISE FOR THIS BAD ANIME ADAPTATION OF MORYIAMA'S MANGA

dreamless
2004-06-06, 10:04
First Peacemaker Kurogane, now Chrno Crusade... I wonder what happened to the days when GONZO could actually make a good manga-to-anime conversion which was Saikano...

Yebyosh
2004-06-06, 10:20
First Peacemaker Kurogane, now Chrno Crusade... I wonder what happened to the days when GONZO could actually make a good manga-to-anime conversion which was Saikano...
Well cheer up! For their next high profile project, they decide to leave the poor little mangas alone. They decided to do a movie adaptation instead. So whether they would make a good movie adaptation or turn it into a disaster would be the next Gonzo debate instead...

*I hear the Kurosawa fanattics waiting with heavy abated breaths, weapons or praise-books in hands...*

DryMaltExtract
2004-06-07, 10:17
I keep hearing how GONZO supposedly royally screwed up PeaceMaker Kurogane. As I haven't watched the entire series yet I'd just like to know how exactly they did this?(I have no problem with spoilers or anything.) Or are fans just going crazy over stupid little things?

Guido
2004-06-07, 10:27
I keep hearing how GONZO supposedly royally screwed up PeaceMaker Kurogane. As I haven't watched the entire series yet I'd just like to know how exactly they did this?(I have no problem with spoilers or anything.)


You went off topic. If you want to discuss PMK, go to the Licensed and DVD thread since it is licensed.

DryMaltExtract
2004-06-07, 11:11
It's semi-related due to the fact they're both produced by the same studio. Also, if talking about licensed series in other forums is so friggin taboo then chrno crusade shouldn't even have it's own section, because it is, dear god! licensed!

Guido
2004-06-07, 11:23
Dear true. Thanks for that clarification. Pardon me if I was nuisance bitching.

Discussion's over.

_Riku_
2004-06-07, 11:43
WTF?!?!?!?! I expetced a big big battle between chrno and Aion.. not just that chrno killed him in less than 2 sec!!

Guido
2004-06-07, 11:50
Cool down, fellow!

There's still episode 24, have you forgotten?

brightman
2004-06-08, 17:35
Hey, Aion deserves a 2 second death... That's how long they spent on 90% of the other character deaths in this series after all... :heh:

They really could have paced this series better though... They spent too much time on useless conversations and useless characters, time that could have been better use at developing the main characters more and at the fights more.

And no... They didn't screw up PMK... The PM manga wasn't that great to begin with. So the addition of that magic storyline just made it seem a bit worse.

Skimpy
2004-06-08, 18:40
awww... wow I can't believe it ended like this, and I'm pretty sure the last episode is probably gonna be all boring talk ( maybe not the beginning since it ended for episode 23 a bit excitement for what gonna happen).
I got over excited for nothing and we all had to wait 2 weeks for it :frustrated:
Now I ahve to do so much complainging -_-

DeathStorm
2004-06-08, 18:51
This episode 24 may have got some surprises, first of all where is pandemonium's head??? Does Aion eat the head before having been cut in two by chrno????? Moreover there is a big mistake, we see aion lose his arm and when he is cut into two he has his two arms????? That shows the bad work of Gonzo!! And the final question is what is that hole that Remington sees in the place where the eagle has been cut???? So maybe that an ultimate aion will kick the ass of chrno??? After all if aion's horns are shining red at the episode's end it could be not over???? THE ULTIMATE GONZO'S SURPRISE FOR THIS BAD ANIME ADAPTATION OF MORYIAMA'S MANGA

I thought those were Chrnos horns and they're glowing because his power froze all those people originally. I can very easily see Chrno bringing back the frozen kids and those two dying and everything is conveniently wrapped up.

If they're bringing anyone back they're going to have a mission of it fitting it into one episodes and wrapping up past issues and sending Chrno and Rosette off happily... but only one more to find out.

Guido
2004-06-08, 18:52
I don't think the last episode is going to be talking and chit-chat conversational.

elwoodthegreat
2004-06-08, 19:00
If anyone was wondering at 20:00 of this episode what Aion says is
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani
which is one of the 7 last words of Jesus, translated from the Aramaic as
Father, Father why have you forsaken me?
which is the starting line of Psalm 22.
Definition entry about this. (http://www.bartleby.com/65/el/Eli-Eli.html)

Just in case anyone couldn't pick that up from the katakana translation.

Keitaro
2004-06-08, 20:51
WTF?!?!?!?! I expetced a big big battle between chrno and Aion.. not just that chrno killed him in less than 2 sec!!

Me too, what happened. They fight for like 20 secs then Aion dies so easily. Maybe since Rosette released so much power for Chrno to use he just overwhelmed Aion. Too bad though I know most people are very disappointed about that, o well its too late to complain now. From ep24 preview looks like the series will wrap up quite nicely having everyone live happily ever after.

So what was Aion trying to do again? looked like he wanted to free everyone from the restrictions of hell and heaven and he wanted to use Rosette to control the people on earth to do that. I'm I right?

dreamless
2004-06-09, 01:20
I think he wanted to destroy the current world and rebuild a new one where he become the God of the new world... he wanted to free just himself, sacrificing everyone else...

Synaptik
2004-06-09, 02:12
i've spent the last 10 eps waiting for chrono to put on them horns and kick an extended period of ass....cant believe it climaxed like that. the first ep had more action.

stormy001_M1A2
2004-06-09, 05:27
Another GONZO bites the dust of sucky adaptation.

God forbid if they touch Fate/Stay Night.

dreamless
2004-06-09, 06:12
Another GONZO bites the dust of sucky adaptation.

God forbid if they touch Fate/Stay Night.
don't panic, I think if Fate/Stay Night is going to get converted to anime (which is quite likely actually), it's most likely will be JC Staff I guess... ;)

webworm00
2004-06-09, 10:53
I guess the main problem of this anime was trying to fit the story nicely into 24 episodes, given that the meeting between joshua - rosette occured in ep. 18...
i felt that the anime flowed nicely until then: if there were 30 eps, maybe the finale could be better potrayed.

they had too many sidetracks, like the one in ep. 16, and the christmas event in ep. 12. not that they are badly done or unnecessary (i happen to like ep. 12), but that leaves them to a rushed ending, given they only had 24 eps to fill in.

And yes aion's character screwing was completed with a 2 sec ending in ep. 23, best example of no time left :(

Mikesmaf
2004-06-09, 21:40
Aion is suppose to be all powerful.........wth? how did he die in 2 seconds..pretty homo fight...i'd say.

Wong Sensei
2004-06-10, 00:06
Hmmm....Huh... :uhoh:
Hey guy stop complaining around, can you guy any pity on me where I don't even know the true Manga storyline cause our region cannot import this series Manga :nono: due to the demonic factor :(

:thinker: may be any of you guy have read the manga can post the storyline in this forum, how the Aion is dead and ending of Chrno and Rosette? :heh:

Altimit
2004-06-10, 02:22
Jeeze, whats with the lame deaths in this show, first Defaux (or whatever his name is) and now Aion and Chrno (Mabey). Mabey the last episode will be able to redemm the series, but I doubt it, espcially with GONZO's reputation. It's going to be a nonsensical "everyone lives happily ever after" type ending or a nonsensical "everyone dies" ending.

xxjc1104xx
2004-06-10, 02:43
The fight was too exaggerated... seriously, aion and chrno were about equal when they fought, but in this episode, chrno killed him so easily. and his curse over rosette was broken so easily too.. they rushed this too much..

Erroll
2004-06-11, 18:33
Nice to know the feeling is mutual about this ep. I expected Chrno and Aion to throw down like some mofos. If you blinked, you would have missed this fight. I hope the manga has a better ending than this. I'm not really expecting much from ep. 24. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting much.

xxxhyunxxx
2004-07-01, 03:29
Gonzo is not all that bad, watch vandread.

UltimaCloud
2006-05-19, 01:04
And yet in the final battle between Aion and Chrno, there's 2 seconds of action. And Rosette's action is beyond explanation! Fucking Gonzo you fucking suck you are the suckiest suck suckers that ever sucked,

Well if you actually paid attention to the Series... Chrono is the hundred million killer of his own kind which means he is the most powerful of all devils.. which in other words would require more energy from rosette..and a shocking concusion.. chronos horns = Stop time and Ainos horns = Speed up time.. and Since chrono got hit with it then rosettes life got taken away Very quickly since chrono just lived like almost all her life..seriously.. if your gonna flame stuff.. make sure you know the entire series..i would recommend just downloading the ending and watching it or just buying the collection..

UltimaCloud
2006-05-19, 01:05
also if you dont know.. gonzo has another anime thats kinda good =/ still debatable though because i havent seen the entire series.. its Called Samurai 7