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Zwei
2010-02-01, 17:09
Blame the distributor. Since I'm not from USA, I couldn't care less, though.

But this all started ever since they changed studios. So I think Madhouse has something to do with it. I'm also not from the USA, but I'd like to own the rest of the series since I own the others.

For you, sure: to me is because it's a decent Dracula spin off. ;) That's what it is, first and foremost. What makes Hellsing is that: the characters, the action is just an excuse to make them develop, IMO. *shrugs* Therefore -to me- Madhouse + Tanaka's take > Tokoro's and Satelight because they are putting emphasis on characters doing stuff and not stuff been done by characters which seems more in spirit with Hirano's manga.

Hellsing without action would just be another Vampire Knight (and I like this manga, but it certainly would not work with Hellsing). I don't think I can imagine Hellsing without all the gore and action. Heck, we might not even have gotten the OVAs without the action, because it wouldn't be that popular in the first place. You do not want a 50 minute OVA length of witty dialogue. I would say many fans of Hellsing would be disappointed.

Not in Japan, Alucard and Anderson are, for the record. Integra and Seras ranked way after Anderson in the YKO character ranking. In Germany, it's Millennium, for what I heard. In Russia, they are Alucard and Integra. In Spanish-speaking fandoms, it's Integra. In Portuguese speaking fandoms, it's Seras and Walter. Depends where. For the OVA producer? His favorite character is Pip Bernadotte and you notice his bias in the episode OVA with the added material he gets (not that I mind because he's my favorite male character).

Source? I'd like to see myself. Ranking in countries sounds hilarious (Not surprised by Germany's choice if it's true).

Not to me, except for II which had some decent pacing. I was embarrassed after watching the first episode, the one I waited for a year to be produced and I was so excited about. I downloaded the first rip, I was a friend of the person who ripped it the first time (Bird of Hermes forums, sniff, old times). Absolutely embarrassed. I immediately retracted in any optimism I had by the OVA in my lj fl so my non Hellsing friends would NOT watch it (I had anticipated rec it before I watched it was my mistake). My opinion improved after episode II, but sadly again was let down for the episodes that came after. I fell asleep during episode III. Episode IV was forgettable to me.

I also fell asleep watching Hellsing for the first time. But maybe that was because it was late at night and I was sitting on my comfortable sofa. :) But I have to admit, ep2 is by far my most favorite Hellsing episode. The action scenes were just incredible and the Valentine Brothers were hilarious (especially Jan, he was my favorite). The weakest episodes so far had been 5 and 6, while my favorites are 2 and 7. The first episode was decent, but that part wasn't even that great in the manga to begin with.

Now, V+VI+VII saved the franchise from being a complete failure in my eyes and finally became what it was promised to be: ultimate. I thank Ueda for realizing the terrible direction he was taking (he learned from the TV series days!) before it was too late and fired a lot of the staff, changed director and studio. :p Now Hellsing OVA is on top of my personal Anime list, rightfully next to the Manga.

Well, I'd say the Hellsing Ultimate series saved the Hellsing franchise from being a total failure. As I said before, I dropped the manga somewhere around ch.40-50, and I watched the TV series before I ever was an anime fan, and it left a disappointing impression on me. I know not a lot of studios can pull off something like Satelight did with so much quality and virtue.

Not everyone likes the same things you do, please bear that in mind.

An obvious statement. I could say the same to you. :)

As for general fan thing, that depends where are you measuring popularity. From the fanlistings, livejournal communities, fandom-specialized forums and general open forums would be completely different from each others. So I wonder where do you measure this to give this wild-mass guessing that Alucard and Seras are the most popular characters, no contest?

Lets take in MAL for example.

Alucard - Member Favorites: 3887

Anderson - Member Favorites: 270

Walter - Member Favorites: 155

Seras Victoria - Member Favorites: 443

Integra - Member Favorites: 275

Such an obvious difference. I wonder if you could also back-up your argument and give me source from where you're getting the ranks from? Unless, of course, it's just a "wild-mass guessing" thing. :)

Thess
2010-02-01, 17:59
But this all started ever since they changed studios. So I think Madhouse has something to do with it. I'm also not from the USA, but I'd like to own the rest of the series since I own the others.

Like I say, I buy the Japanese DVD, so I don't care much about this. I could dig up info and find out what's happening if you want.

Hellsing without action would just be another Vampire Knight (and I like this manga, but it certainly would not work with Hellsing).

I hate Vampire Knight, so. You're misunderstanding me. Hellsing HAS to have action and horror and humor, but it's nice when they focus on characters doing the action rather action... and blood, soulless without showing the characters-trials to perform it, does this make sense?

Tokoro focused on action itself, then the characters. Tanaka focuses on characters doing the action, the subject rather than the object. That's why I enjoy Tanaka's take the best because I love Integra, Pip and Seras to bits and I am so grateful they didn't screwed up with Pip/Seras storyline (because it came with Madhouse take over) as they did to Integra development.

Source? I'd like to see myself. Ranking in countries sounds hilarious (Not surprised by Germany's choice if it's true).

To go to the Korean (forgot the name(, you can find it by linking into the fanart sites they have like Lemon Bomb, but they worship Rip over anyone else, then Alucard and Integra as unit rather as individuals as Rip. Rip's one of my least favorite Hellsing characters, so... For Russian forums, go to spigel (google) and see their community/forums if they are still there. Russian fandom is rather big, I warn you. La Organización Hellsing (Spanish), livejournal community (there was a poll last year about favorite character and pairing, Seras was among the most popular but after Alucard, Integra and Walter -ugh, frankly I dislike Walter so I was pissed off-), etc.
Go to Anime fanlistings, search "Hellsing" for the fanlisting ones. :) Sadly a lot of Hellsing fanlistings are down (years ago, there was fanlisting for everything and everyone in Hellsing), now are just Alucard, Integra, Seras and Pip as characters (and I gave you the numbers already):

Alucard fanlisting: 3576 fans.
Seras fanlisting: 22 + 1 pending= 23 fans.
Pip fanlisting: 396 fans.
Integra fanlisting: 592 fans.

I personally think Seras' more popular among casual fans than among members of the Hellsing fandom for my... 10 years in the fandom (since the obscure days in vampire forums leak about Hellsing to Hellsing.nu, to Hellsing Org, to BloodKnight to Hellsing Project, to Hellsing Lj com, to Birds of Hermes, to Hiranomoe, to Call to Arms now), I noticed the fandom itself doesn't seem to like her that much, her popularity has increased though. I hope that OVAs 6-7 and people reading later volumes of the manga change this. There was a time that bashing and hating Seras was a sport in the fandom joint with a seasonal worship of Rip van Winkle which annoyed me so much.

You know I'm really wondering about the French fandom specially, I should check "Hellfreak" but my French is atrocious. There's also a big Polish community that I never bothered to check. But the tastes on character vary over regions. I mean, look at Rip massive popularity in places like Korea.

As for Anderson? It was in a YKO. Top ten on... 2008 IIRC. The last year issue.

Alucard was (surprisingly) number 1 on the character rank of YKO. I was shocked because I thought Vash would be it! Nope, second place for Vash, Alucard's popularity was so surprising. Anderson was next in Hellsing, fourth place. Color me surprised Anderson got there. :heh:

Integra and Seras came after them but by far. I don't remember the rankings for them but they were in the top 20 instead of the top 10. Since I favor them over Alucard and Anderson, I was disappointed XD Still it's an accomplishment they got there! :D

Edit: I checked MAL, while it's true Seras has more added favorites by members, her club has less fans than Integra's and Walter's.

The Seras Victoria Fan club (aka police girl) 45 members
Goddess Integra 72 members
Alucard Fan Group 693 members
Alexander Anderson club 29 members
Walter C. Dornez FG 102 members

Ugh, I can't believe Walter beats Seras and Integra. :(

I also fell asleep watching Hellsing for the first time. But maybe that was because it was late at night and I was sitting on my comfortable sofa. :)

I was on my chair over the PC, but it was so boring I fell asleep and worse? It was one of my favorite manga sequences. So it was such a sore let down to me. I was absolutely disappointed over the adaptation.

My OVA episode ranking

1. OVA VII.
2. OVA V & VI.
3. OVA II.
4. OVA IV.
5. OVA III.
6. OVA I.

I'm excited for OVA VIII thanks to my renewed interest.

Fair enough. Although financially, the TV series and manga success is what produced the OVA, you realize? ;)

Wtf, double post.

Zwei
2010-02-01, 18:21
So I wasn't the only one liking Rip van Winkle? Awesome. Her voice actress is also one of my favorites as she voices characters such as: Ryougi Shiki and Alphard. :) Well, about Seras, she is my favorite character along Integra and obviously Alucard. I was recommended Hellsing 3 years ago by someone on a MMORPG forum, but I got into the Hellsing Ultimate last year, so you could say I haven't been a fan as long as you have. The manga disappointed me quite a bit and dropped it, but I'll have to pick it up again because it's rare for me not to have read the original material of the adaptation, and since Hellsing Ultimate just entered into my favorites, then it is a must that I read it.

Of course, my opinion about the characters might change after I read both of the manga (I say both because I'm also planning to read the prequel that's currently being published).

Thess
2010-02-01, 18:27
Heavens no, you should have been in the fandom in the period of the English fandom of 2003-2005, so you're not the only one I assure you. There was even wank about Rip van Winkle's shirt being changed from white to pink in the OVA trailer and how her fans and cosplayers would leave FANDOM FOREVER due to that travesty. :heh: The amount of insane fan theories around Rip van Winkle in that period was later replaced by Captain (not Captain Bernadotte) worship (Johnathan Harker = Captain theory was one of the...most creative).

Anyways, Seras is one of my favorites, Integra's my first (only in the Manga, obviously. Hirano!Integra = hot and interesting), then Seras and Pip. Alucard became a favorite after volume 8... actually. I only liked his Dracula aspect before that point. Anderson was better for me pre v8. Actually, I don't care much about the prequel, The Dawn, because Seras, Pip and Integra aren't there. >_> It's good if you're a Millennium and Walter fan.

White Manju Bun
2010-02-01, 18:39
So I wasn't the only one liking Rip van Winkle? Awesome. Her voice actress is also one of my favorites as she voices characters such as: Ryougi Shiki and Alphard. :) Well, about Seras, she is my favorite character along Integra and obviously Alucard. I was recommended Hellsing 3 years ago by someone on a MMORPG forum, but I got into the Hellsing Ultimate last year, so you could say I haven't been a fan as long as you have. The manga disappointed me quite a bit and dropped it, but I'll have to pick it up again because it's rare for me not to have read the original material of the adaptation, and since Hellsing Ultimate just entered into my favorites, then it is a must that I read it.

Of course, my opinion about the characters might change after I read both of the manga (I say both because I'm also planning to read the prequel that's currently being published).

I liked RVW as well, Maaya Sakamoto did a great job espc singing the song. The only thing I didnt like was how she just kinda gave up when she sense Alcuard coming. But her musket was awesome :D

Thess
2010-02-01, 18:49
I agree, but the voice acting in Hellsing (at least the Japanese one, I can't botch by the awful SPANISH dub... where Young Integra sounds like regular Integra... God help us) is superb with A-class seiyuus: Jouji Nakata, Norio Wakamoto, Yoshiko Sakakibara, Fumiko Orikasa, Nobuo Tobita, Hiroaki Hirata, Kaori Mizuhashi, etc. So Maaya Sakamoto was the cherry on top. :love:

On Rip: I used to like her but the overexposure to the fandom ruined my enjoyment of her for me. In fact, I stopped my casual like of Millennium because their rabid fans were so absolutely obnoxious. It was like a crime to support the protagonists over the villains or something. Meh.

CuXe
2010-02-01, 20:54
Glad to see there is a healthy discussion going on. At least I won't have to moderate a pissing contest like I thought I would.

Long live Hellsing!

Thess
2010-02-01, 22:39
I'll say less discussion, more fanboy/girlish in this thread. Does anyone want the suilen lyrics? Because I can post them. :p

Jan-Poo
2010-04-16, 07:40
So I've been watching lately the 6th and 7th episodes of the Ultimate OAV series.

To my understanding Alucard is stuck on a warship and is therefore unable to reach London to stop the Major from destroying the city (at least not under a reasonable time). This suggests that Alucard is not able to swim a long distance (despite the fact he can't drown and shouldn't have stamina problems) and he isn't able to fly either. So he resorts to inhaling a massive quantity of air in order to make the whole warship move forward (I guess he's somehow releasing the air to his back... I have the feeling I don't want to know where the air is being released from!)

Anyway the point is that he has no other means to move fast across the ocean. I suppose that no matter if you are a vampire you aren't a superman that can fly at the speed of light.

But then at the end of EP7 I've seen something that left me confused. I've seen Seras Victoria flying. Yes... flying, incredibly fast, for several miles... what the hell?

Did she surpass her master or what?

NorthernFallout
2010-04-16, 07:47
To my understanding Alucard is stuck on a warship and is therefore unable to reach London to stop the Major from destroying the city (at least not under a reasonable time). This suggests that Alucard is not able to swim a long distance (despite the fact he can't drown and shouldn't have stamina problems) and he isn't able to fly either.

But then at the end of EP7 I've seen something that left me confused. I've seen Seras Victoria flying. Yes... flying, incredibly fast, for several miles... what the hell?

Did she surpass her master or what?
Alucard can only pass over water in an aircraft (or boat as seen. I guess this means any machine) and even then I think it weakens him (IIRC). Refer to vampire lore.

As for Seras, not only was she turned by Alucard, she also drank from a human (Pip). This makes her, from my understanding, a true vampire (compared to the other vampires in the series), with powers comparing to Alucard. She hasn't surpassed him though. He's still far, far above her level since he's the "King".

-Sho-
2010-05-05, 16:02
Ow , got Suilen's songs , i really like her songs for the ED6 et ED7 !!

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2010-05-05, 19:04
So I've been watching lately the 6th and 7th episodes of the Ultimate OAV series.

To my understanding Alucard is stuck on a warship and is therefore unable to reach London to stop the Major from destroying the city (at least not under a reasonable time). This suggests that Alucard is not able to swim a long distance (despite the fact he can't drown and shouldn't have stamina problems) and he isn't able to fly either. So he resorts to inhaling a massive quantity of air in order to make the whole warship move forward (I guess he's somehow releasing the air to his back... I have the feeling I don't want to know where the air is being released from!)

Anyway the point is that he has no other means to move fast across the ocean. I suppose that no matter if you are a vampire you aren't a superman that can fly at the speed of light.

But then at the end of EP7 I've seen something that left me confused. I've seen Seras Victoria flying. Yes... flying, incredibly fast, for several miles... what the hell?

Did she surpass her master or what?

Seras is flying over land, not over moving bodies of water. Alucard is pretty much moving the carrier by haunting it and turning it into a ghost-ship. But magic can't replace the damaged turbines of the carrier.
The original novel had Alucard reaching England via a ghost ship while he sleeps in a coffin. In general vampire lore prevent them from crossing oceans under their own power. We are not sure if Alucard could have done anything if he fell into the sea; there is a strong possibility he would lose most of his power without going full-release. That was why Rip was trying to blast him off the carrier by her bullet.

CuXe
2010-05-05, 19:07
ahh dammit! False alarm... *quickly puts his sword back on its sheath*

Thess
2010-05-06, 19:43
As someone else explained, vampires in Hellsing cannot cross running water bodies unless is over something.

Ow , got Suilen's songs , i really like her songs for the ED6 et ED7 !!

Do you want the lyrics?

Black0raz0r
2010-05-11, 16:13
hi guys :)
i've got a question.

where can i watch OVA 5 to 7 ?

-Sho-
2010-05-11, 16:22
As someone else explained, vampires in Hellsing cannot cross running water bodies unless is over something.



Do you want the lyrics?

I already read the lyrics , thanks anyway ^^


hi guys :)
i've got a question.

where can i watch OVA 5 to 7 ?

It's licensed (read the rules for licensed show) so buy the dvd or search on google ;)

Black0raz0r
2010-05-11, 16:35
I know :(

but in our country OVA5 and up still dont be released :upset:

felix
2010-05-13, 12:23
I know :(

but in our country OVA5 and up still dont be released :upset:Google is your friend...

Jarmel
2010-05-29, 17:58
Hellsing Vol.1-5 Blu-ray

8/27 26,250yen

Source:http://muhootsaver.tistory.com/

Against my better judgment and insight, I'm going to order this.

CuXe
2010-05-29, 18:32
Dam.. I hope the won't take years to release the dubbed BR versions.... hopefully those who were dubbing these ovas will keep at it and won't drop the material by then....

duckroll
2010-05-30, 09:44
Hellsing Vol.1-5 Blu-ray

8/27 26,250yen

Source:http://muhootsaver.tistory.com/

Against my better judgment and insight, I'm going to order this.

Cool, thanks for the heads up.

I really want to order this, but it's pretty pricey for a re-release, especially since I already own the DVD LEs for 1-5, and the BD LEs for 6-7. I think I'll wait to see if FUNimation announces anything within the next few months. If there's going to be a US version of the BDs for much cheaper, I'll just get those, and continue buying the JP BD LEs for 8+.

orion
2010-05-30, 12:50
Cool, thanks for the heads up.

I really want to order this, but it's pretty pricey for a re-release, especially since I already own the DVD LEs for 1-5, and the BD LEs for 6-7. I think I'll wait to see if FUNimation announces anything within the next few months. If there's going to be a US version of the BDs for much cheaper, I'll just get those, and continue buying the JP BD LEs for 8+.

You mean Geneon Universal . They're prob the reason why the US hasn't had a release in a while. Maybe Anime Expo will shed some light from them this year.

monir
2010-05-30, 12:55
Cool, thanks for the heads up.

I really want to order this, but it's pretty pricey for a re-release, especially since I already own the DVD LEs for 1-5, and the BD LEs for 6-7. I think I'll wait to see if FUNimation announces anything within the next few months. If there's going to be a US version of the BDs for much cheaper, I'll just get those, and continue buying the JP BD LEs for 8+.

I know I'm not spending 300 US dollars for Blu Ray Discs and I am a super fan of Hellsing. How much was your DVD LE for those 5 episodes? I was hoping there would be R1 release here in the states, but it seems it is better not to expect anything until the OVA finishes its run.

Dextro
2010-05-30, 19:03
Hellsing Vol.1-5 Blu-ray

8/27 26,250yen

Source:http://muhootsaver.tistory.com/

Against my better judgment and insight, I'm going to order this.

HOLY GUACKAMOLE! I went and checked, double checked, triple checked the conversion even... 300 bucks for 5 movies? DAMN! I knew Japan had same crazy prices for blu-ray releases some times but 60 bucks for each movie is very much on the expensive side of things... dang :|

Jarmel
2010-05-30, 19:22
HOLY GUACKAMOLE! I went and checked, double checked, triple checked the conversion even... 300 bucks for 5 movies? DAMN! I knew Japan had same crazy prices for blu-ray releases some times but 60 bucks for each movie is very much on the expensive side of things... dang :|

Trust me, this is relatively cheap in comparison to some other series.

orion
2010-05-30, 19:38
HOLY GUACKAMOLE! I went and checked, double checked, triple checked the conversion even... 300 bucks for 5 movies? DAMN! I knew Japan had same crazy prices for blu-ray releases some times but 60 bucks for each movie is very much on the expensive side of things... dang :|

Well Kanon and Clannad are close to $500 for the series on BD. Haruhi-chan and Nroyan-san $120 for both series on one BD.

R1 would have paid $150 for the 5 movies on DVD.

It all balances out.

duckroll
2010-05-30, 19:44
I know I'm not spending 300 US dollars for Blu Ray Discs and I am a super fan of Hellsing. How much was your DVD LE for those 5 episodes? I was hoping there would be R1 release here in the states, but it seems it is better not to expect anything until the OVA finishes its run.

The DVD LEs are 7800yen each, and the BD LEs are 8900yen each. So technically the BD boxset is "cheaper", but since I already own the series, I'm not going to spend so much money to buy a bunch of episodes again at that price. Lol. :(

Jarmel
2010-05-30, 19:50
Well Kanon and Clannad are close to $500 for the series on BD. Haruhi-chan and Nroyan-san $120 for both series on one BD.

R1 would have paid $150 for the 5 movies on DVD.

It all balances out.

And that's after the discounts too. To be fair though, it's really only Kadokawa who is just absolutely insane with the prices.

@duckroll

They supposedly redid alot of the scenes so that is a added bonus( mostly likely the CGI though). I'm also interested in the Nazi soundtrack. I hope it's in English so I can play it to my Jewish friends for the lulz.

duckroll
2010-05-31, 04:28
They supposedly redid alot of the scenes so that is a added bonus( mostly likely the CGI though). I'm also interested in the Nazi soundtrack. I hope it's in English so I can play it to my Jewish friends for the lulz.

They did put a substantial amount of work into the BD box. But it's still not enough for me to buy it all again at almost full price. For something I already own, I probably wouldn't pay more than half of what I originally did for a re-release, that's all. If the box was 15,000yen I would grab it in a heartbeat.

As for what they redid for the BD release, there are about 200 cuts (each continuous animation sequence is called a cut) which were reanimated. This is not CGI, but more like corrections and enhancements. Not new scenes but stuff they felt needed touch ups when presented in a higher resolution.

They also mentioned that several thousand cuts were completely rephotographed, which translates to me as the entire collection being digitally rephotographed in HD, frame by frame, with all CGI rerendered in proper resolution. How do I reach this conclusion? Because in total, Vol1-5 should have about 3300-3500 cuts, based on the scene numbering on the keyframe artbooks that came with the LEs. So several thousand cuts being rephotographed for the set would mean all the cuts, as opposed to specific scenes only. It's basically a longwinded way of saying "this is definitely not an upscale".

I think it's a very good effort on their part for sure, it's just a bit too pricey for me to justify buying the 5 volumes again.

Jarmel
2010-05-31, 08:42
They did put a substantial amount of work into the BD box. But it's still not enough for me to buy it all again at almost full price. For something I already own, I probably wouldn't pay more than half of what I originally did for a re-release, that's all. If the box was 15,000yen I would grab it in a heartbeat.

As for what they redid for the BD release, there are about 200 cuts (each continuous animation sequence is called a cut) which were reanimated. This is not CGI, but more like corrections and enhancements. Not new scenes but stuff they felt needed touch ups when presented in a higher resolution.

They also mentioned that several thousand cuts were completely rephotographed, which translates to me as the entire collection being digitally rephotographed in HD, frame by frame, with all CGI rerendered in proper resolution. How do I reach this conclusion? Because in total, Vol1-5 should have about 3300-3500 cuts, based on the scene numbering on the keyframe artbooks that came with the LEs. So several thousand cuts being rephotographed for the set would mean all the cuts, as opposed to specific scenes only. It's basically a longwinded way of saying "this is definitely not an upscale".

I think it's a very good effort on their part for sure, it's just a bit too pricey for me to justify buying the 5 volumes again.

That's really quite impressive and should show as an example for other companies to follow in how to release a BD. The additional good news I get from this is that they also can devote more resources to additional episodes now that the past ones are taken care of so hopefully further episodes might come at a slightly increased pace(a man can dream).

orion
2010-05-31, 09:27
That's really quite impressive and should show as an example for other companies to follow in how to release a BD. The additional good news I get from this is that they also can devote more resources to additional episodes now that the past ones are taken care of so hopefully further episodes might come at a slightly increased pace(a man can dream).


It was a redo of this magnitude prob because they didn't like Satelight's work. If Madhouse had done it from the beginning, they wouldn't have to have gone that far to release the BD.

duckroll
2010-05-31, 12:45
It was a redo of this magnitude prob because they didn't like Satelight's work. If Madhouse had done it from the beginning, they wouldn't have to have gone that far to release the BD.

Erm, this is not true at all. I'm willing to bet a ton of the fixes will probably be in Vol5, which was Madhouse's first episode. That's the worst episode in the entire series. I should also point out that I'm not sure who "they" is in this case. The animation director of the series is Ryoji Nakamori. He is the animation character designer and animation director of the series from the start, and is still on board. He would be the one in-charge of any animation correction, so basically if he is correcting anything for the BD box set, he is correcting his own work.

The actual animation for the series is mostly entirely Korean. It was that way with Satelight, and it is the same way with Madhouse. The main difference between Madhouse and Satelight's productions is the actual director of the series, as well as the episode directors and storyboarders. Those are not going to change in any way. They're not remaking the series. They're just correcting sequences to make them look better.

CuXe
2010-05-31, 21:34
^ Wow, I am not as up-to-date about the work of the production houses involved in H.U. as some of you guys are .... I just hope they don't take far too long to release the BR Dubbed versions after the OVA is through cause I am dying to see whats going to happen next ....

BTW, Anyone has any idea about the release date of OVA 8? I think we should be very close now...

orion
2010-06-01, 00:42
The actual animation for the series is mostly entirely Korean. It was that way with Satelight, and it is the same way with Madhouse. The main difference between Madhouse and Satelight's productions is the actual director of the series, as well as the episode directors and storyboarders. Those are not going to change in any way. They're not remaking the series. They're just correcting sequences to make them look better.

Except that Satelight was constantly late with releasing the title. So basically, it's correcting a few screw ups. Like what KyoAni did with Haruhi season 1 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya/dvd-1).

duckroll
2010-06-01, 08:23
Except that Satelight was constantly late with releasing the title. So basically, it's correcting a few screw ups. Like what KyoAni did with Haruhi season 1 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya/dvd-1).

Madhouse is no better than Satelight as far as release schedule is concerned.

Vol 1 = Feb 2006 (50 mins)
Vol 2 = Aug 2006 (46 mins) [6 months]
Vol 3 = April 2007 (49 mins) [8 months]
Vol 4 = Feb 2008 (56 mins) [10 months]
Vol 5 = Nov 2008 (45 mins) [9 months]
Vol 6 = July 2009 (42 mins) [8 months]
Vol 7 = Dec 2009 (42 mins) [5 months]
Vol 8 = Sometime after Aug 2010 (probably 42 mins) [more than 8 months]

Can you really say that Satelight was constantly late with releasing the title when Madhouse is taking about just as long and releasing volumes which are shorter? I don't think that's fair at all. If Madhouse could suddenly deliver the same quality as Satelight, with 50 min long volumes, at 5-6 months consistently, then yes. But no, they're taking about just as long.

The fastest volume was Vol7, which was actually produced back-to-back with Vol6 as a two-parter. As expected, right after the two parter, bam, release schedule is back to hell. The BD box set was announced last year, before Vol7 even came out. Whoever is working on it (could be Madhouse, could be Satelight themselves, who knows) has been working on it for over 6 months. The release window was promised to be either early 2010, or Spring, or at worse early Summer. The end of August is hardly "early Summer".

So I'm sorry, I don't buy this thing about Satelight being worse than Madhouse. In fact, as a proud owner of all the OVAs released so far, I can safely say that Satelight worked on the two best episodes (Vol4 and Vol2), while Madhouse worked on the worst episode (Vol5) so far. That's not to say that Madhouse is bad, I really enjoyed Vol6 and 7, but there clearly isn't a huge gap where Satelight is bad and Madhouse is good.

Geneon decided to change animation production companies for various reasons I'm sure, but the development process has not improved in any significant way since the switch. :P

Jarmel
2010-06-01, 12:30
Just would like to comment that the CG in episode 5 was atrocious. Anyway yea that sounds about right however if Madhouse has been working on the boxset recently after finishing 7 then that might explain the delay for 8 but yes it's a little too early to say that Madhouse is faster than Satelight.

CuXe
2010-06-01, 17:57
After Aug 2010? So it is a 3 month wait at best? Yikes!

orion
2010-06-01, 19:11
Geneon decided to change animation production companies for various reasons I'm sure, but the development process has not improved in any significant way since the switch. :P

But Madhouse had met their deadlines. People and stores know that on this day product will be sold. Whereas, Satelight had announced delays. There's the problem. You have to make the deadlines. On top of whatever screw ups are in vol 1-4 that prompted them getting the boot.

duckroll
2010-06-02, 00:41
But Madhouse had met their deadlines. People and stores know that on this day product will be sold. Whereas, Satelight had announced delays. There's the problem. You have to make the deadlines. On top of whatever screw ups are in vol 1-4 that prompted them getting the boot.

I think you're confusing the animation studio with the production company. None of the release dates announcements and marketing were handled by Satelight. Hellsing is a Geneon production, and all that is handled by Geneon. The producer Ueda is a Geneon producer and he is a HUGE Hellsing fan. He is solely to blame for ANY of the delays and announcements. The reason why they are "meeting" the release dates now is because they stopped announcing any date until they know production is pretty much done.

duckroll
2010-06-29, 05:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdUr_vCZ7J4

This is the HD trailer for the Vol1-5 Blu-ray release. It's meant to show off a few sequences they've corrected, as well as how much better the scenes look in HD.

Shiroth
2010-06-29, 05:45
Yeah can easily see the difference in quality. Would be quite the treat to rewatch the first five episodes in BR.

CuXe
2010-06-29, 21:35
The new OVA is supposed to come out some time between June and Aug ... so hopefully July is the magic month ...

Those BR versions look sweet :)

Shiroth
2010-06-30, 03:23
The new OVA is supposed to come out some time between June and Aug ... so hopefully July is the magic month ...
I haven't heard anything official said to believe this.

duckroll
2010-06-30, 06:15
The new OVA is supposed to come out some time between June and Aug ... so hopefully July is the magic month ...

Those BR versions look sweet :)

What are you talking about? Vol8 has no date, and it's definitely not coming out before August. At the earliest it'll be out sometime by the end of this year.

CuXe
2010-06-30, 17:38
^ Here is the time table I've seen posted on several forums now:

Here is the OVA release times list:
2006 OVA 1
2007 OVA 2 and 3
2008 OVA 4 and 5
2009 OVA 6 and 7
2010 OVA 8 and 9
2011 Hellsing The Dawn OVA

OVA 8 will be released on 18th July 2010

So with a 6-8 month average, it wouldn't be surprising if it came out between June and Aug right?

I am currently looking for sources and confirmation....

duckroll
2010-07-01, 04:40
You will not find any sources or confirmation because you are posting a time table which is bullshit. It doesn't matter how many forums you see it posted at, because it is not true. OVAs are direct to home video releases, which means they are retail products. They don't magically show up unannounced out of nowhere.

The only real information is what the company releasing the show says, not what some fans want to predict or believe. There is no announced date for Vol8, and it will not be coming out before August 2010, because the next release which is already announced is the Blu-ray box for Vol1-5, which is coming out in August. There will be no other releases before that. Even if the release date for Vol8 is announce tomorrow, it will be at least two months away.

I'm sorry if you don't like being lectured at, but please if you want to talk about solid information, at least know what you're talking about instead of saying "I read this on a bunch of forums, it must be true!" because that just makes you sound ignorant. Some of us follow the series very closely, and actually buy the releases instead of freeloading on pirated copies released on the net. We know what we're talking about. You obviously do not.

Edit: I should also note that at no point of time have they ever stated that The Dawn is getting animated in any form. So I suggest that you should not expect there to ever be an OVA for The Dawn, or you will end up very disappointed. Obviously the list you posted is simply what some fans want to happen, and is not based on any sort of reality at all. Hellsing I and II both came out in 2006, not 2007. III was the only release in 2007. So the list is already wrong. Maybe you should check your facts more closely before posting again in future.

CuXe
2010-07-01, 07:33
You will not find any sources or confirmation because you are posting a time table which is bullshit.

YIKES! That time of the month uh?

http://i21.tinypic.com/5wmtrt.jpg

I've been looking for release dates or whatever I can find that seems reasonable (6-8 months has been the release pattern up until now) ... that was hardly offensive and didn't call for such angry reaction all of the sudden so sorry if I hurt your feelings pal.

In no way did I say that was an OFFICIAL release date, I just happened to find that info in another forum and I am currently looking for sources. If that is a crime against humanity then .. sorry! shish!

Seriously, people can't even come up with estimates because it offends the masters of the Universe these days....:heh:

duckroll
2010-07-01, 09:18
I'm mad because Vol8 definitely isn't coming out soon, and I want it to come out sooner. :(

Royal_Devil
2010-07-02, 18:43
Funimation finally got the gears moving. (http://twitter.com/funimation/status/17599470370)

duckroll
2010-08-02, 16:49
I just noticed that the blu-ray box set for Vol1-5 has been stealth delayed. Orion can no longer say that Madhouse meets their deadlines anymore, since this has slipped from what was supposed to be an early 2010 release, to August, and now to 30th September. I'm not even sure if this new date will hold, since no actual announcement has been made about it. It just slipped quietly on Geneon's official release listing.

Not a good sign for getting Vol8 anytime this year. Lulz.

CuXe
2010-08-02, 18:15
Not a good sign for getting Vol8 anytime this year. Lulz.

Dat sucks :( ... all this waiting has turned me into a nicotine junkie http://gi66.photobucket.com/groups/h274/958IJR8ITP/a03cbf1e.gif

Time to chew on some nicorette I guess

orion
2010-08-02, 21:00
I just noticed that the blu-ray box set for Vol1-5 has been stealth delayed. Orion can no longer say that Madhouse meets their deadlines anymore, since this has slipped from what was supposed to be an early 2010 release, to August, and now to 30th September. I'm not even sure if this new date will hold, since no actual announcement has been made about it. It just slipped quietly on Geneon's official release listing.

Not a good sign for getting Vol8 anytime this year. Lulz.

Ah, but there could be other reasons for the delay. Madhouse is working on the more lucrative Iron Man. Wolverine is also being worked on.

Then it could be a problem with Universal-Geneon's release schedule and not Madhouse. Now if Madhouse came out and said that the delay was their fault then you'd have a point.

Spectacular_Insanity
2010-08-03, 00:38
I just noticed that the blu-ray box set for Vol1-5 has been stealth delayed. Orion can no longer say that Madhouse meets their deadlines anymore, since this has slipped from what was supposed to be an early 2010 release, to August, and now to 30th September. I'm not even sure if this new date will hold, since no actual announcement has been made about it. It just slipped quietly on Geneon's official release listing.

Not a good sign for getting Vol8 anytime this year. Lulz.

This is no time for lulz. LIVEZ are on the line! :p

duckroll
2010-08-03, 08:24
Ah, but there could be other reasons for the delay. Madhouse is working on the more lucrative Iron Man. Wolverine is also being worked on.

Then it could be a problem with Universal-Geneon's release schedule and not Madhouse. Now if Madhouse came out and said that the delay was their fault then you'd have a point.

So how is that any different from Satelight? :lol

You're amazing. When Satelight was animating the series, any delay has to be their fault, and they obviously kept missing deadlines blahblahblah. But when Madhouse is animating the series, delays could have other reasons! LOL!

Edit: http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/

http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/images/txt_kenteki_v43.gif

Is this good enough for you?

CuXe
2010-08-03, 18:36
^ I seriously hope they are late because they were busy making this coming ep pure awesomeness...... but if they were procrastinating like I do sometimes then G-d help us all! (I don't procrastinate for 6 months btw... 1 week is my max lol)

duckroll
2010-08-04, 14:56
Comiket78 is next weekend. Maybe we'll get an updated trailer for Vol8 there.

orion
2010-08-04, 20:53
So how is that any different from Satelight? :lol

You're amazing. When Satelight was animating the series, any delay has to be their fault, and they obviously kept missing deadlines blahblahblah. But when Madhouse is animating the series, delays could have other reasons! LOL!

Edit: http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/

http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/images/txt_kenteki_v43.gif

Is this good enough for you?

Because we at least know the other work they have and also having experienced R1 release delays due to a full schedule, it's easier to understand.

To answer your queston. Not really. A PR poster is not an explanation or even a hint as to what's really going on.

quigonkenny
2010-08-04, 21:52
Because we at least know the other work they have and also having experienced R1 release delays due to a full schedule, it's easier to understand.

To answer your queston. Not really. A PR poster is not an explanation or even a hint as to what's really going on.
And let's not forget how long it took Hirano to finish the manga as it is...

Shiroth
2010-08-05, 03:22
Speaking of the manga, i'm starting to get mighty tempted to just go finish the story in that format. :p

duckroll
2010-08-05, 04:54
Because we at least know the other work they have and also having experienced R1 release delays due to a full schedule, it's easier to understand.

To answer your queston. Not really. A PR poster is not an explanation or even a hint as to what's really going on.

I really don't understand where you are coming from. Madhouse is an animation production studio. They are contracted by Geneon to work on Hellsing Ultimate. I fail to see how having other projects to work on from other producers has any bearing on justifying their delays on Hellsing Ultimate. Why should Geneon care that Madhouse is making Iron Man or Wolverine? If Madhouse has taken on more jobs than they can handle, then they are failing at meeting production deadlines, and they would be annoying Geneon just as much as Satelight would have.

I would like to see some consistency from you, that's all. You made the claim that the blu-ray box is being redone significantly because Geneon did not like Satelight's work. There is no basis for this claim at all, as I have pointed out. It is baseless mudslinging on your part, which you then attempted to support with the claim that Satelight did not meet their deadlines. Now I'm pointing out that Madhouse is not meeting their deadlines either. Vol8 is nowhere in sight, the blu-ray box is being delayed again and again.

It is very clear that Hellsing Ultimate is a very troubled production overall, but there is no evidence to point that Madhouse is handling it any better than Satelight was. The only difference is that Madhouse has not been replaced yet. We have no way of knowing unless the Geneon producer himself comes out to say it, but Satelight might not even have been removed from the project. It could simply have taken so many years that the staff at Satelight decided to opt out of the project so they can work on other things instead.

You like pointing out that we have "no way of knowing" what happens behind the scenes in production, yet you would happily bad mouth Satelight for their great work on the OVA, while praising Madhouse for what you claim to be better work (which is not proven in either improved animation quality, nor a faster release schedule).

If you do not want to admit that Madhouse could just be as troubled in terms of production planning as Satelight was, then at least stop bad mouthing Satelight for things you have no proof over. If you want to bad mouth Satelight for how Kissdum or Basquash turned out, that's all fine because the facts are there. Hellsing Ultimate on other hand has always been something that Satelight can be proud of, because they did a damn fine job on the first four volumes.

felix
2010-08-05, 06:41
Speaking of the manga, i'm starting to get mighty tempted to just go finish the story in that format. :pI'm still somehow holding on. :heh:

Thess
2010-08-16, 20:38
Hellsing Ultimate on other hand has always been something that Satelight can be proud of, because they did a damn fine job on the first four volumes.

They were fairly mediocre in my opinion (well not episode 1, that was downright awful). The pacing was all over the place, all except episode 2 seemed weak and souless with static images, bad cgi and terrible art (which is also Nakamori's fault). Rip's football player shoulders are a nightmare like Integra lacking a friggin' nose in episode 1. I got second-handed embarrassment after watching episode 1, I have to admit until this day I can't force myself to watch that mess again.

http://h.imagehost.org/view/0064/1228

An image speaks louder than words, I believe. Satelight vs Madhouse, ladies and gentlemen. Perhaps now I can bring myself to watch it.

I would have dropped Hellsing if hadn't been for Madhouse saving the entire franchise after episode 5 (one episode of transmission between the companies) which is still far superior to any of the other four overall.

This doesn't mean Satelight is a bad company... I liked some other stuff they have produced animation for, it wasn't the right for Hellsing (neither was Gonzo I guess). Madhouse seems to be the only one that manages to bring forth the right atmosphere and quality that fits a good adaptation.

alucard13mm
2010-09-03, 17:16
lol i read the manga to finish it XD.. the ova is much different than the anime series.. i guess nazi's were iffy back then

chaos_alfa
2010-09-03, 17:20
lol i read the manga to finish it XD.. the ova is much different than the anime series.. i guess nazi's were iffy back then

There wasn't enough material to adapt form at the time.

duckroll
2010-09-07, 07:43
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B003TQC9EW

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry anymore. Geneon's production schedule on Hellsing Ultimate is just so totally pathetic. The Blu-ray box set seems to be delayed again. The official site still says 30th Sept, but Amazon Japan says it'll only be shipping on 22nd October now. Lol?

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2010-09-07, 08:06
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B003TQC9EW

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry anymore. Geneon's production schedule on Hellsing Ultimate is just so totally pathetic. The Blu-ray box set seems to be delayed again. The official site still says 30th Sept, but Amazon Japan says it'll only be shipping on 22nd October now. Lol?

Seriously, this is not new with OVAs. There is a reason why most production schedules with OVAs only give vague terms on release dates. No one ever manages to get things done on time because there is no restriction in the length of the show. It's like Duke Nukem Forever; you keep thinking you can add more content, and it gets to the point when you realised the extra stuff means extending the deadline. Compare that to a TV episode, which you know can't be longer than 25 minutes.

duckroll
2010-09-07, 08:42
Seriously, this is not new with OVAs. There is a reason why most production schedules with OVAs only give vague terms on release dates. No one ever manages to get things done on time because there is no restriction in the length of the show. It's like Duke Nukem Forever; you keep thinking you can add more content, and it gets to the point when you realised the extra stuff means extending the deadline. Compare that to a TV episode, which you know can't be longer than 25 minutes.

But this isn't even a new episode, it's just a re-release of the first 5 volumes on blu-ray, with corrections and improvements. They know exactly how long it is because they're not adding new scenes. And even then, it has been delayed three times now!

SantaC
2010-09-08, 12:49
lol duckroll getting owned at this forum.

Spectacular_Insanity
2010-09-08, 17:22
Speaking of the manga, i'm starting to get mighty tempted to just go finish the story in that format. :p

I read it. I rather liked the ending, as cliched as it was. :p

duckroll
2010-09-09, 16:53
Yup, the delay is confirmed. October 22 is the new date. :(

http://db.geneonuniversal.jp/search_anime/detail.php?softid=GNXA-1100

CuXe
2010-09-09, 19:15
ahh damit! u got me all excited there for a sec.. I thought we had, at last, a release date for ova 8 ...

LOL......

Spectacular_Insanity
2010-09-09, 22:15
ahh damit! u got me all excited there for a sec.. I thought we had, at last, a release date for ova 8 ...

LOL......

We do. A DELAYED date, which is not what we were looking for.

Why does it take so damn long? I mean, seriously. Is it really because the project's been shifted from one studio (or company) to another like I've been hearing?

Dextro
2010-09-09, 22:42
We do. A DELAYED date, which is not what we were looking for.

Why does it take so damn long? I mean, seriously. Is it really because the project's been shifted from one studio (or company) to another like I've been hearing?

Damn... Hellsing is becoming the Duke Nukem Forever of animes with all these delays. :heh:

duckroll
2010-09-10, 00:31
We do. A DELAYED date, which is not what we were looking for.

Why does it take so damn long? I mean, seriously. Is it really because the project's been shifted from one studio (or company) to another like I've been hearing?

No we don't. This is not for Vol8. This is for the Blu-ray boxset of Vol1-5. Vol8 doesn't even exist at the moment because they can't even finish cleaning up animation for a HD remaster of the first 5 volumes. Don't expect Vol8 anytime this year, even early next year.

CuXe
2010-09-10, 19:12
No we don't. This is not for Vol8. This is for the Blu-ray boxset of Vol1-5. Vol8 doesn't even exist at the moment because they can't even finish cleaning up animation for a HD remaster of the first 5 volumes. Don't expect Vol8 anytime this year, even early next year.

Yeap, that was my understanding after reading the link u posted...

Sad n tough facts to swallow....

Spectacular_Insanity
2010-09-10, 22:05
No we don't. This is not for Vol8. This is for the Blu-ray boxset of Vol1-5. Vol8 doesn't even exist at the moment because they can't even finish cleaning up animation for a HD remaster of the first 5 volumes. Don't expect Vol8 anytime this year, even early next year.

Oh, well that's even worse.

Just freaking SHOOT ME NOW.

*bang*

SantaC
2010-09-11, 18:17
No we don't. This is not for Vol8. This is for the Blu-ray boxset of Vol1-5. Vol8 doesn't even exist at the moment because they can't even finish cleaning up animation for a HD remaster of the first 5 volumes. Don't expect Vol8 anytime this year, even early next year.

duckroll of neogaf i presume?

Of course it exist! It is just that we dont know how far they are, but wiki lists Vol 8 to come out in October now. A couple of weeks ago it just said TBA, so MAYBE someone know something we dont?

"Hellsing VIII" October 2010

alucard13mm
2010-09-12, 01:49
There wasn't enough material to adapt form at the time.

ahh i see @_@.. well i like the music from the series, liked it so much i went to by the CD (back when CDs were remotely still popular).

Thess
2010-09-15, 15:20
But this isn't even a new episode, it's just a re-release of the first 5 volumes on blu-ray, with corrections and improvements. They know exactly how long it is because they're not adding new scenes. And even then, it has been delayed three times now!

They seem to be redoing COMPLETELY episode 1... From what I've seen of the previews. They need to redraw Integra in almost every scene, and Alucard, and Rip, etc... Which includes new animation. Probably most of the other episodes too.... Episode 5 was NOT only Madhouse product but also Satelight, you can tell the transmission-was-on, but not quite as episodes 6 and 7 were 100% pure Madhouse. Not one episode but 5, I think they should have said it would take it a year at least from start on myself.

They are also waiting for Hirano's cover (and he's right now a "busy, popular mangaka"). Which will probably delay this even longer...

lol i read the manga to finish it XD.. the ova is much different than the anime series.. i guess nazi's were iffy back then

It wasn't the Nazis... But the studio's liberties (some Ueda still takes, I say, he has a vision of Hellsing that sneaks into episode 1 of the OVA that wasn't in the Manga).

The changes they did also had NOTHING to do with "not enough source material". But because Gonzo likes to change stuff for better or worse (I liked the Anime, mind you, I still do, but I don't think they even tried to stay close to the manga).


Take for instance, making Seras Victoria's the POV character when she wasn't even a developed character at the time (she barely had a name, only because Hirano was pressured by the editors to name her lol at the end of volume 1) which was frankly annoying because her character didn't HAVE a background yet (unlike Integra or Alucard who were more rounded characters) not until far into the manga. Her personality was changed completely from a sightly dumb-but-cheerful and strong soldier with tomboyism tendencies into an emo super smart detective vampire who is uber girly (the OVA also girlifies Seras far too much when in the manga, the only skirt she wears is in the uniform not by choice). I like her as an upbeat, unconsciously sexy Squadette, the plucky comic relief instead of the angsty vamp detective with Daddy Issues. I've seen this done better in Forever Knight, thank you.

Anyway, Alucard's personality was changed from willing servant to an arrogant tamed beast with a Stockholm Syndrome...... so was Integra's (who in the first volumes was cocky, unable to deal with crisis and stress, smirky, and tsundere-ish, not too prideful to admit she needed help, with a closer relationship with Seras than it shows. How does this even match her Gonzo characterization?). The dynamics were resembling to Ai to Shi no Rondo Elizabeth/Sissy and Der Tod's ones...with mindgames and things that weren't close to their manga dynamics which was more twisted chaste lady/knight bodyguard dynamics.

Look at how Alucard met Seras and Integra. Both were already published when the anime was produced and there are enormous substantially differences.

In the manga, he didn't care to ask first, shot her in cold blood, left her agonize in the floor then give her a choice; none of the previous encounter and none of the focus on Seras' introduction (that chapter in the manga was focused on Alucard, not Seras). Not because he wanted but because she 'chose' that and (defending his actions to Integra) "didn't have any other option left!". TV series wise, he asks before hand, she looks happy (???) of being shot in the lung, and he looks content carrying Seras to Integra as if throwing her to her face which she is left cold and icy towards. Manga wise, he looks indifferent/annoyed when carrying a comically confused Seras and is quick to defend himself when Integra angrily and hotly accuses him of something else.

Meeting Integra is also different. Although like his meeting with Seras it was still cool (not in the OVA, they shafted this which was an ENTIRE manga chapter). While in the Anime is portrayed as tensed and sexual charged (with Alucard testing her and pinning her to a wall, flat out telling to her face that he's turned on by her). The manga, shows a softer, cuter and idealistic romantic meeting. With Integra cuddling next to him, asking for a knight in shining armor as a fantasy of hers. Alucard acting the part faithfully (then he teased her about her sentimental remembrance).

This completely affected the tone of the core dynamics. Not to mention the obvious sexism issues...Gonzo had. Did we really need Seras and Integra seemly crippled and waiting for Alucard to the rescue? Really? Or the animosity between them? Sure, in the manga, Integra wasn't happy with Seras in the beginning, but she got over it quickly and cared a lot for the girl, even in volume 1, she risks to save her. So did Seras, one action she didn't do for Alucard.

The Round Table was changed as capable, without undermining Integra's authority at all into some big bad incompetent bureaucrats. Anderson's softness with the orphans was gone. Etc. Lots of examples.

SantaC
2010-09-17, 16:32
so they spend their resources on old episodes now? Couldn't they do this once the OVA is actually finished.

Friday
2010-09-23, 08:31
dying for the next ova......
whenever that is......

Spectacular_Insanity
2010-09-23, 13:41
They seem to be redoing COMPLETELY episode 1... From what I've seen of the previews. They need to redraw Integra in almost every scene, and Alucard, and Rip, etc... Which includes new animation. Probably most of the other episodes too.... Episode 5 was NOT only Madhouse product but also Satelight, you can tell the transmission-was-on, but not quite as episodes 6 and 7 were 100% pure Madhouse. Not one episode but 5, I think they should have said it would take it a year at least from start on myself.

They are also waiting for Hirano's cover (and he's right now a "busy, popular mangaka"). Which will probably delay this even longer...



It wasn't the Nazis... But the studio's liberties (some Ueda still takes, I say, he has a vision of Hellsing that sneaks into episode 1 of the OVA that wasn't in the Manga).

The changes they did also had NOTHING to do with "not enough source material". But because Gonzo likes to change stuff for better or worse (I liked the Anime, mind you, I still do, but I don't think they even tried to stay close to the manga).


Take for instance, making Seras Victoria's the POV character when she wasn't even a developed character at the time (she barely had a name, only because Hirano was pressured by the editors to name her lol at the end of volume 1) which was frankly annoying because her character didn't HAVE a background yet (unlike Integra or Alucard who were more rounded characters) not until far into the manga. Her personality was changed completely from a sightly dumb-but-cheerful and strong soldier with tomboyism tendencies into an emo super smart detective vampire who is uber girly (the OVA also girlifies Seras far too much when in the manga, the only skirt she wears is in the uniform not by choice). I like her as an upbeat, unconsciously sexy Squadette, the plucky comic relief instead of the angsty vamp detective with Daddy Issues. I've seen this done better in Forever Knight, thank you.

Anyway, Alucard's personality was changed from willing servant to an arrogant tamed beast with a Stockholm Syndrome...... so was Integra's (who in the first volumes was cocky, unable to deal with crisis and stress, smirky, and tsundere-ish, not too prideful to admit she needed help, with a closer relationship with Seras than it shows. How does this even match her Gonzo characterization?). The dynamics were resembling to Ai to Shi no Rondo Elizabeth/Sissy and Der Tod's ones...with mindgames and things that weren't close to their manga dynamics which was more twisted chaste lady/knight bodyguard dynamics.

Look at how Alucard met Seras and Integra. Both were already published when the anime was produced and there are enormous substantially differences.

In the manga, he didn't care to ask first, shot her in cold blood, left her agonize in the floor then give her a choice; none of the previous encounter and none of the focus on Seras' introduction (that chapter in the manga was focused on Alucard, not Seras). Not because he wanted but because she 'chose' that and (defending his actions to Integra) "didn't have any other option left!". TV series wise, he asks before hand, she looks happy (???) of being shot in the lung, and he looks content carrying Seras to Integra as if throwing her to her face which she is left cold and icy towards. Manga wise, he looks indifferent/annoyed when carrying a comically confused Seras and is quick to defend himself when Integra angrily and hotly accuses him of something else.

Meeting Integra is also different. Although like his meeting with Seras it was still cool (not in the OVA, they shafted this which was an ENTIRE manga chapter). While in the Anime is portrayed as tensed and sexual charged (with Alucard testing her and pinning her to a wall, flat out telling to her face that he's turned on by her). The manga, shows a softer, cuter and idealistic romantic meeting. With Integra cuddling next to him, asking for a knight in shining armor as a fantasy of hers. Alucard acting the part faithfully (then he teased her about her sentimental remembrance).

This completely affected the tone of the core dynamics. Not to mention the obvious sexism issues...Gonzo had. Did we really need Seras and Integra seemly crippled and waiting for Alucard to the rescue? Really? Or the animosity between them? Sure, in the manga, Integra wasn't happy with Seras in the beginning, but she got over it quickly and cared a lot for the girl, even in volume 1, she risks to save her. So did Seras, one action she didn't do for Alucard.

The Round Table was changed as capable, without undermining Integra's authority at all into some big bad incompetent bureaucrats. Anderson's softness with the orphans was gone. Etc. Lots of examples.


Changes are inevitable, and to be honest I like the changes they made. They made it more gritty and "realistic", and not so silly and romanticized. And I prefer Seras as the protagonist POV. She retained the bulk of her innocence (at least up until Bernadotte's death and she becomes a true vampire, more or less an inevitable personality change) and does provide comic relief, despite the darker undertones of the OVA.

I think the OVA basically solved all the writing flaws that were present in the manga and certainly the anime. For instance, if the Round Table really were competent, they should have been able to muster more resistance than the token forces deployed in London in both the manga and OVA. Also, Alucard and Integra's meeting should have been charged with both mortal and sexual tension. Alucard is a goddamn Nosferatu, not a fluffy pet bunny rabbit. He only served the Hellsing family because he was sealed to them. He's an monster in (mostly) human form, and it's only through his experiences fighting for Integra that he grows into something more (Alucard alludes to the importance of being human more times than I can count).

What I'm trying to say is that the changes they made were both necessary and good. Complaining because it's different won't accomplish anything but detract from your overall enjoyment. Just be thankful they decided to remake this series with an OVA at all.

duckroll
2010-10-22, 09:41
Today the blu-ray box for Vol1-5 of Hellsing was released. The official site has also gotten a complete revamp, along with some very interesting information.

http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/index.html

"Final season VIII-X
HELLSING STUDIO
Graphinica x Kelmadick"

This confirms a few things:
- The OVA will be 10 volumes long in total
- Madhouse has also been removed from the project
- Graphinica and Kelmadick will take over production of the last 3 volumes

http://www.graphinica.com/en/about/index.html

Graphinica is a CG/VFX studio established by Q-TEC, INC, transferred originally from Studio GONZO's Digital VFX Team, a pioneer in digital animation.

With collaboration of Q-TEC, INC's post production techniques and GONZO's creativity known in the famous works such as: "Blue Submarine No.6", "Yukikaze", "Last Exile", "Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo" and "Afro Samurai", we will continue to position ourselves as a leading edge studio of visual graphics.

How ironic that in a way Hellsing is going to be completed by GONZO after all. :P

Jarmel
2010-10-22, 10:49
Aw fuck. We were doing so well too. Explains the delay with 8 but damn this is bad news. Why in god's name did they drop it? Too much work?

konart
2010-10-22, 11:02
Today the blu-ray box for Vol1-5 of Hellsing was released. The official site has also gotten a complete revamp, along with some very interesting information.

http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/index.html

"Final season VIII-X
HELLSING STUDIO
Graphinica x Kelmadick"

This confirms a few things:
- The OVA will be 10 volumes long in total
- Madhouse has also been removed from the project
- Graphinica and Kelmadick will take over production of the last 3 volumes

http://www.graphinica.com/en/about/index.html

How ironic that in a way Hellsing is going to be completed by GONZO after all. :P

Gonzo?

/fail

Shiroth
2010-10-22, 12:12
I take it Madhouse being removed from the project has something to do with the very long wait since the last episode. Makes sense.

Jarmel
2010-10-22, 12:16
I take it Madhouse being removed from the project has something to do with the very long wait since the last episode. Makes sense.

I'm really curious as to what the hell is going on over there. Madhouse just re-did 1-5 so I can understand the delay but I wonder if one of the higher-ups lost their patience. If any show deserved a behind the scenes documentary then this would be it. It really makes no sense especially as Madhouse was doing a pretty good job.

Dextro
2010-10-22, 14:06
I'm really curious as to what the hell is going on over there. Madhouse just re-did 1-5 so I can understand the delay but I wonder if one of the higher-ups lost their patience. If any show deserved a behind the scenes documentary then this would be it. It really makes no sense especially as Madhouse was doing a pretty good job.

Damn straight, this show needs a documentary on the development process has an example of what NOT to do...

And GONZO? Really? Damn that made me laugh my head of right now. I wasn't even sure they were still alive :heh:

Friday
2010-10-25, 19:09
at least now we all know whats happening.......

volume 8 out this time during the final quarter next year???

orion
2010-10-25, 19:19
Graphinica's not really GONZO. It's more like QTEC's (http://www.qtec.ne.jp/) animation arm. Link (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-10-22/graphinica-kelmadick-to-make-last-hellsing-ova-season)

Graphinica apparently also worked on the original Hellsing when it was a part of GONZO.

Jarmel
2010-10-25, 22:45
Graphinica's not really GONZO. It's more like QTEC's (http://www.qtec.ne.jp/) animation arm. Link (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-10-22/graphinica-kelmadick-to-make-last-hellsing-ova-season)

Graphinica apparently also worked on the original Hellsing when it was a part of GONZO.

That doesn't really inspire hope in me.

duckroll
2010-10-27, 13:47
Graphinica's not really GONZO. It's more like QTEC's (http://www.qtec.ne.jp/) animation arm. Link (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-10-22/graphinica-kelmadick-to-make-last-hellsing-ova-season)

Graphinica apparently also worked on the original Hellsing when it was a part of GONZO.

Graphinica is very much GONZO. From 1999 until 2009, the staff were exclusively part of GONZO as the digital VFX and compositing studio. Graphinica did not exist before 2009. When GONZO dissolved all their studios and assets in 2009, the staff from the studio started up Graphinica under Q-TEC.

They do not do ANY traditional animation, this should be stressed heavily. They are not an animation studio, they are a digital works studio. This means they do digital effects, editing, compositing, etc. It's pretty obvious that Kelmadick will be handling the animation production ends of things, while Graphinica handles the 3DCG, editing, and basically editing and putting the content together into an episode.

As far as the work that Graphinica does is concerned, they are 100% GONZO. Saying that Graphinica is not GONZO is like saying BONES was not originally Sunrise.

duckroll
2010-10-27, 13:59
Oh, and I think I should add that it seems Madhouse might not have been involved with the recent blu-ray box set release after all. It's hard to get any real information on it because I don't think anyone bought it (anyone here?), but someone on 2ch has stated that all the corrections on the animation were handled entirely by Ryoji Nakamori and Yasuhiro Matsumura. No one has mentioned who handled the compositing and editing (which would be the other half of the work on the re-release), so it could be Madhouse, or they could already have moved on to Graphinica.

I wish I could buy it and check the credits, but I don't really feel like dropping another 300 bucks on something I already own. Not to mention, FUNimation will almost certainly be releasing the blu-ray versions next year for a much lower price...

If anyone actually bought the blu-ray box set, the credits would be very helpful!

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 15:18
Oh, and I think I should add that it seems Madhouse might not have been involved with the recent blu-ray box set release after all. It's hard to get any real information on it because I don't think anyone bought it (anyone here?), but someone on 2ch has stated that all the corrections on the animation were handled entirely by Ryoji Nakamori and Yasuhiro Matsumura. No one has mentioned who handled the compositing and editing (which would be the other half of the work on the re-release), so it could be Madhouse, or they could already have moved on to Graphinica.

I wish I could buy it and check the credits, but I don't really feel like dropping another 300 bucks on something I already own. Not to mention, FUNimation will almost certainly be releasing the blu-ray versions next year for a much lower price...

If anyone actually bought the blu-ray box set, the credits would be very helpful!


Yea I have the boxset, got it in today. No clue where to look.

duckroll
2010-10-27, 15:22
Yea I have the boxset, got it in today. No clue where to look.

Any chance you'll be able to post some impressions/comparisons of it while you're at it? I'm pretty interested in the content and how good it looks in HD. Especially volume 4, my favorite. :D

As for the credits, I think there should be a staff listing in the booklet? In the previous OVA volumes the back of the booklet always had the credit list for that volume. Of course ideally, the ending credits for each volume from the footage itself would be very helpful, but I'm not sure if that's too much trouble for you. :(

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 15:24
Damn. Most of it's in Kanji but Graphinica and Kelmadick are on the back and Q-Tec is listed as Post Production.

Madhouse is nowhere to be mentioned. So I would assume yes Madhouse didn't do it.

duckroll
2010-10-27, 15:39
Damn. Most of it's in Kanji but Graphinica and Kelmadick are on the back and Q-Tec is listed as Post Production.

Madhouse is nowhere to be mentioned. So I would assume yes Madhouse didn't do it.

If you can take a clean photo, I'll translate the credits. Thanks a lot!

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 16:20
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/39/img0272p.th.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/img0272p.jpg/)
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/39/img0272p.th.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/img0272p.jpg/)


Tell me if you need better photos, only have access to Iphone4 right now.

Shiroth
2010-10-27, 16:33
Urgh. Thumbnails, please.

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 17:00
Screenshots from the set.

Episode 1:http://img42.imageshack.us/g/hellsingm2tssnapshot434.jpg/
Episode 2:http://img89.imageshack.us/g/hellsing2m2tssnapshot03.jpg/
Episode 3:http://img529.imageshack.us/g/hellsing3m2tssnapshot42.jpg/
Episode 4:http://img716.imageshack.us/g/hellsing4m2tssnapshot45.jpg/
Episode 5:http://img229.imageshack.us/g/hellsing5m2tssnapshot39.jpg/

duckroll
2010-10-27, 17:08
Here are the important credits from the back of the booklet:

Direction: Yasuhiro Matsumura
Animation Director: Ryoji Nakamori
Keyframes: Ryoji Nakamori, Yasuhiro Matsumura
Color Setting and Correction: Masato Takagi
3DCG Director: Hiroshi Shiroi
Director of Photography: Takeo Ogiwara
Production Assistance: Studio Kelmadick
Production: Graphinica Inc


It pretty much confirms that Madhouse only worked on the production of Vol5-7 before their contract was terminated. The blu-ray box is done by the same staff which will be handling the last 3 volumes. Although, since this is just a remastering and touch up job, there are no creative staff members listed (main director, storyboards, etc) so it still doesn't give us a great idea of what to expect from volume 8 onwards.

I can't see the imageshack links. :(

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 17:22
Here are the important credits from the back of the booklet:

Direction: Yasuhiro Matsumura
Animation Director: Ryoji Nakamori
Keyframes: Ryoji Nakamori, Yasuhiro Matsumura
Color Setting and Correction: Masato Takagi
3DCG Director: Hiroshi Shiroi
Director of Photography: Takeo Ogiwara
Production Assistance: Studio Kelmadick
Production: Graphinica Inc


It pretty much confirms that Madhouse only worked on the production of Vol5-7 before their contract was terminated. The blu-ray box is done by the same staff which will be handling the last 3 volumes. Although, since this is just a remastering and touch up job, there are no creative staff members listed (main director, storyboards, etc) so it still doesn't give us a great idea of what to expect from volume 8 onwards.

I can't see the imageshack links. :(

Well it's certainly interesting. Honestly I haven't been impressed with the picture quality so far.

Try the link again, I think I fixed it.

duckroll
2010-10-27, 17:23
I did some checking, and Yasuhiro Matsumura co-storyboarded and co-directed volume 4 of Hellsing Ultimate (the only volume which Studio Kelmadick assisted in production previously), and he is also the director of Papillion Rose (eww), the only series so far to be completely produced by Studio Kelmadick (they mostly do outsourced assistance to other studios).

Since he also handled the direction of the correction process for the BD box, it seems likely that he will be the new director of the OVA for Vol8-10. This is obviously just my theory, but based on the evidence I would say it is likely.

The link for the third imageshack gallery works, but the first two don't work because the links are shortened...thanks a lot anyway. Really appreciate it!

Edit: Yeah it works now, thanks. Wow, some of the screens from Vol2 look... pretty bad in HD. :/

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 17:40
Edit: Yeah it works now, thanks. Wow, some of the screens from Vol2 look... pretty bad in HD. :/

Vol.2 looks atrocious. Vol.1 I think they mostly redrew but 2 looks the worst of the lot easily. What makes it worse is that you can see certain scenes where they redrew which makes the originals stand out even more. Episode 4, lucky for you, looks outstanding in comparison to the rest which leads me to believe that they had HD masters for that.

Edit:They definitely had HD masters for 4 and 5. They look way too good in comparison to the rest of the set. Makes me wonder how KnK is going to turn out.

duckroll
2010-10-27, 17:57
Vol.2 looks atrocious. Vol.1 I think they mostly redrew but 2 looks the worst of the lot easily. What makes it worse is that you can see certain scenes where they redrew which makes the originals stand out even more. Episode 4, lucky for you, looks outstanding in comparison to the rest which leads me to believe that they had HD masters for that.

Yeah, the overall quality looks really inconsistent across the different episodes here. It's really sad, considering how when the OVA was first announced, they said it was in "HD format" even though the release was only on DVD. I guess that was all a lie, considering all the work they had to put in for a HD re-release, and it still ends up looking like this. Poor Luke Valentine. :(

Well, I just hope they can at least finish off the series in a timely (hahahahaha) and satisfactory manner. Vol8 is going to be a major test for the new staff members, because the lake of the death sequences in the manga are the most detailed and elaborate parts in terms of artwork and layout. It would be really hard for even an experienced animation studio to get it looking "right" in motion, much less a relatively untested pair of studios like we have here.

Hopefully Nakamori's hand doesn't get injured anytime soon, because I believe he is the only reason the OVA still exists. It must really suck for him having to basically work on correcting and polishing up every frame in pretty much every major scene of the OVA. He does a really good job though.

Jarmel
2010-10-27, 18:14
Yeah, the overall quality looks really inconsistent across the different episodes here. It's really sad, considering how when the OVA was first announced, they said it was in "HD format" even though the release was only on DVD. I guess that was all a lie, considering all the work they had to put in for a HD re-release, and it still ends up looking like this. Poor Luke Valentine. :(


Ok I went back and relooked at some of the episodes. Episode 1 looks like they just completely redid it. It looks overall pretty fantastic and the image quality is around Ep.4 and Ep.5. Now 2 and 3 looks like they touched up but didn't do anywhere near the amount of revisions as 1 but I would need the DVDs for comparison.

Kid Ryan
2010-11-02, 07:57
Any update on the release date for Hellsing Ultimate Volumes 5-7 on DVD in the U.S.?

Besides just "2011".

bunyiper
2010-12-26, 08:33
Can anyone tell me when exactly is the release on OVA 8?

CuXe
2010-12-26, 17:56
Can anyone tell me when exactly is the release on OVA 8?

no one knows mon... should've been out months ago...

duckroll
2010-12-31, 03:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qMD318kTc

HELLSING LIVES! Vol8 due in Spring 2011. Looks pretty awesome despite the change in studios! :o

Malkuth
2010-12-31, 03:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qMD318kTc

HELLSING LIVES! Vol8 due in Spring 2011.

Thanks for the video! Looks good indeed!

Looks pretty awesome despite the change in studios! :o

Isn't Rondo Robe part of Geneon (or whatever is called these days)? I did not catch any cretdits for the actual studio that does the animation, though.

PS: Hilarious Kouta@HotD cross-over with Alucard :cool:
PS2 (and off-topic): So the HotD OAD is a b**ch episode :eyespin:

CuXe
2010-12-31, 03:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qMD318kTc

HELLSING LIVES! Vol8 due in Spring 2011. Looks pretty awesome despite the change in studios! :o

Wait a min....I haven't been reading this thread all that much because of all the delays with the 8th ova so... r u saying that MadHouse is not doing Hellsing anymore? Agrr that sucks bigtime!

duckroll
2010-12-31, 05:41
Start reading this thread from post #586 onwards. It should give you a good idea of the new changes in the production staff.

felix
2010-12-31, 08:10
Wait a min....I haven't been reading this thread all that much because of all the delays with the 8th ova so... r u saying that MadHouse is not doing Hellsing anymore? Agrr that sucks bigtime!Short version: GONZO is at the helm.

(I'm already expecting 3D shiet all over)

Belial13
2010-12-31, 08:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qMD318kTc

HELLSING LIVES! Vol8 due in Spring 2011. Looks pretty awesome despite the change in studios! :o

Looks nice, thx for the video, can't wait

Arabesque
2010-12-31, 10:27
Short version: GONZO is at the helm.Again no less. The circle is now complete.

Gonzo should really consider making Alucard their mascot, considering how they respawned after being killed :P

Black0raz0r
2011-01-17, 07:54
hey :D
I made a little Hellsing OVA musicvideo :D

hope you like it ;)
wF_HOF_msH8

Friday
2011-01-24, 07:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qMD318kTc

HELLSING LIVES! Vol8 due in Spring 2011. Looks pretty awesome despite the change in studios! :o

looks promising.....
wonder whos that fella at 00:17 sec?

what months is spring? May - June?

Shiroth
2011-01-24, 07:48
what months is spring? May - June?
The date hasn't been officially announced yet.

j0x
2011-01-24, 08:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qMD318kTc

HELLSING LIVES! Vol8 due in Spring 2011. Looks pretty awesome despite the change in studios! :o

my body is ready lol :D
thanks for the share

IronWarrior
2011-02-10, 07:16
Are the first 4 OVA's only have the English DUB?

Seems the rest are all Japanese with English subtitles.

j0x
2011-02-10, 09:13
Are the first 4 OVA's only have the English DUB?


yes only first 4 OVA are the only ones that been dubbed, i forgot the reason why they stop dubbing the rest though

IronWarrior
2011-02-10, 09:39
yes only first 4 OVA are the only ones that been dubbed, i forgot the reason why they stop dubbing the rest though

Shame, because the English voices really go well with this series.

I'll read that Funimation is meant to be releasing the other OVA's soon, so I guess they will be in English.

But anycase, who did the dub on the first 4 and if so... do you know where I can find the information on why they stopped?

j0x
2011-02-10, 23:29
Shame, because the English voices really go well with this series.

I'll read that Funimation is meant to be releasing the other OVA's soon, so I guess they will be in English.

But anycase, who did the dub on the first 4 and if so... do you know where I can find the information on why they stopped?

quick googling and found wikipedia has the answers

In producing the English dub of the series, Geneon used much of the original cast from the dub of the anime series, which the company had also licensed. The first episode was released to Region 1 DVD on December 5, 2006, after premiering the episode at the 2006 Anime Expo convention. Though Geneon USA stopped self-distribution of its titles in 2007, it remains the licensor of the series and in 2008 the North American distribution was assumed by Funimation Entertainment. Funimation released the fourth episode on September 23, 2008. Simultaneously, the company re-released the first three episodes. At Anime Expo 2010, Funimation Entertainment announced that they do have all three of the new OVA episodes 5-7 and the original TV series and will be released in 2011.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellsing#OVAs


so expect this year to have the rest of the OVA's dubbed

quigonkenny
2011-02-11, 00:13
Don't be surprised if the dub voices are different, though. Funimation likes to do its dubbing in-house, and the voice actors for the Geneon dubs were pretty much cherry picked by the voice director (which means more $$$). Heck, OVA 4 might have been released with a different cast had it not already been dubbed (and mastered, and had packaging designed, and pretty much everything else but distributed) by the time the original Geneon US release was cancelled.

Of course Hellsing might be popular enough of a property that they feel it's worth it to shell out the extra dough to keep the same voices. Also, Geneon might still have some say. And there is already precedent via Full Metal Panic and Black Lagoon for Funimation doing so on a continuing franchise that had to change distributors (although with Black Lagoon S2, I believe it was in a situation similar to Hellsing OVA 4).

Plus, seriously... Alucard not voiced in English by Crispin Freeman? Blasphemy... You can count on Funimation at least making an effort to keep him on, lest they draw the ire of his horde of rabid weeabettes...

Royal_Devil
2011-02-11, 01:37
ANNcast had an interview with Taliesin Jaffe , the ADR director for the original Hellsing anime and Ultimate. He has been working with Funi on dubs but mentions he hasn't been approached yet for Hellsing. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2011-01-14)

But yeah, Funimation would be quite foolish to not bring back the cast

duckroll
2011-02-25, 07:09
http://i.imgur.com/hemMX.jpg

According to this scan, Hellsing VIII will resurface on 22nd June 2011, with Arucard vs Anderson.

Shiroth
2011-02-25, 07:13
According to this scan, Hellsing VIII will resurface on 22nd June 2011, with Arucard vs Anderson.
Great news. I just hope it actually will air then, and not pushed back..

patnam
2011-02-26, 03:56
WAH... hope it would get the greatest fight ever...!!

solomon
2011-03-01, 19:24
Wow, I just saw the seventh Episode.


WOW.....I mean that was one of my favorite parts in the manga (mainly cause I like Seras and Pip so dern much)

but just..........WOW.

orion
2011-03-09, 21:42
Plus, seriously... Alucard not voiced in English by Crispin Freeman? Blasphemy... You can count on Funimation at least making an effort to keep him on, lest they draw the ire of his horde of rabid weeabettes...

Well the guy is union. Technically, you only need someone who sounds like him.

duckroll
2011-04-24, 09:50
I have a feeling Vol8 is going to be delayed, but all Japanese retailers now have the volume scheduled for release on 22nd June 2011. The LE bonus will be a bonus disc which includes a super deformed animated gaiden story, and clean OP/EDs. Amazon Japan credits the storyboard for Vol8 to Yasuhiro Matsumura and Michiya Katou.

duckroll
2011-05-24, 02:28
http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/news/hp0001/index00600000.html

Aaaaaaaaaand I was right again! Officially delayed to 27th July 2011. Lol. I hope this date sticks.

Shiroth
2011-05-24, 02:42
I'd be lying if i said i didn't see that coming. :heh:

Friday
2011-06-05, 09:08
Aaaaaaaaaand I was right again! Officially delayed to 27th July 2011. Lol. I hope this date sticks.

we hope and pray........:eyebrow:

Spectacular_Insanity
2011-06-07, 20:16
The date hasn't been officially announced yet.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not even gonna be released this year. I don't even know how many times the release date has been pushed back. I'm thinking AT LEAST a half-dozen times or so?

How goddamn long does it take to produce a 50-minute long episode, anyway? Hellsing OVA 8 better be spectacular, or I'm gonna be pissed at this ridiculous wait. And the wait is indeed getting ridiculous, amirite?

The only possible explanation is that the animators all got pneumonia and the voice actors were kidnapped for billions of yen, and the director has been spending all this time raising charity money to pay for their release.

duckroll
2011-06-08, 11:52
http://twitter.com/#!/kurosakimaon/status/78420538049044480

Maon Kurosaki tweeted that she will be performing the ending theme for Hellsing Ultimate Vol9. If Vol8 actually makes it out next month, maybe we'll be getting Vol9 by the end of the year after all!

Spectacular_Insanity
2011-06-08, 15:42
http://twitter.com/#!/kurosakimaon/status/78420538049044480

Maon Kurosaki tweeted that she will be performing the ending theme for Hellsing Ultimate Vol9. If Vol8 actually makes it out next month, maybe we'll be getting Vol9 by the end of the year after all!

I'll believe it when I see it.

Dextro
2011-06-08, 17:26
I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm with you. Hellsing Ultimate is getting almost as ridiculous with release dates as Duke Nukem Forever.

TheEagle
2011-06-15, 16:31
I'm with you. Hellsing Ultimate is getting almost as ridiculous with release dates as Duke Nukem Forever.

Let's just hope it doesn't end up the same way. But they have a reason, and hopefully they're not just exploiting it.

Spectacular_Insanity
2011-06-15, 16:49
Let's just hope it doesn't end up the same way. But they have a reason, and hopefully they're not just exploiting it.

Maybe the director just like screwing with the fanbase.

Because seriously. Since when does it take a year to make a single 50-minute mini-movie? Break Blade comes out every month.

I didn't think we (the fans) were asking for much in wanting a solid release date, but apparently I was mistaken.

duckroll
2011-06-15, 16:55
Maybe the director just like screwing with the fanbase.

What director? Geneon has dropped the director credit after Vol7. There are only storyboarders now, no more director! Lol.

Dextro
2011-06-15, 18:49
What director? Geneon has dropped the director credit after Vol7. There are only storyboarders now, no more director! Lol.

http://youtu.be/OT4DDIKREt8?t=1m41s

I respond to that the same way Tomoya does in this clip.

duckroll
2011-06-23, 04:26
It might actually be coming out in July. Amazon Japan has updated with the cover art for the regular and LE editions:

Regular cover:
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aQyUmHMQL.jpg


LE cover:
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/I/61RRPvbbylL.jpg

Haladflire65
2011-06-23, 06:50
It might actually be coming out in July. Amazon Japan has updated with the cover art for the regular and LE editions:

Regular cover:
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aQyUmHMQL.jpg


LE cover:
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/I/61RRPvbbylL.jpg

OMG! Really?! Finally? But I shouldn't hope... however, cover art is an awesome sign!

Shiroth
2011-06-23, 14:29
Loving the cover art. Fingers crossed that we actually will see this release in July.

duckroll
2011-07-04, 18:04
http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/

The official site has finally updated, confirming the July release of Hellsing VIII. Seems like it won't get delayed again. There's also a full staff listing for VIII which is pretty interesting.

Instead of a "director" role, they list an "animation director" role (アニメーション監督) which seems to differ only in title, since the person in that role seems to be handling all the usual duties an overall director also does. Yasuhiro Matsumura is the Director, the co-storyboarder, and one of the four unit directors on VIII. Matsumura was the co-storyboarder and lead unit director of Hellsing IV, when Studio Kelmadick collaborated with Satelight on that volume.

The other unit directors for VIII are Shinya Sasaki, Tsutomu Yabuki, and Yoshitaka Fujimoto. Interestingly enough, Fujimoto also worked on Hellsing IV as one of the 9 (!!) unit directors. Hopefully the conclusion of the series is in good hands now.

Shiroth
2011-07-05, 02:35
It looks like i can actually get my hopes up about the next OVA. That's good to know, because we've all waited a long time for it.

& i love that volume cover. :3

CuXe
2011-07-09, 19:07
So... i asume they havent announced OVA VIII release date.... im positively giddy with anticipation...

Haladflire65
2011-07-10, 00:25
So... i asume they havent announced OVA VIII release date.... im positively giddy with anticipation...

The official website says July 27. For the win.

konart
2011-07-10, 02:44
KqccNMCsO6A

Echoes
2011-07-10, 06:24
Oh man... that is so, so awesome. Nothing beats Hellsing when it comes to badassery; nothing.

I'm officially hyped. Let's hope it doesn't come back and bite my behind in the form of another delay.

orion
2011-07-10, 22:06
KqccNMCsO6A

Sweet! :D

Only 17 more days...

Haladflire65
2011-07-10, 23:01
Ahhhh! That trailer is EPIC! I can't wait. My summer needs some Alucard...

CuXe
2011-07-14, 01:11
OMFG Whut an awesome trailer!!! Suddenly 2 week n change seems like an eternity...

Used Can
2011-07-14, 01:56
Man, finally Alucard is back.

And we're finally getting so see him as motherfucking Vlad in all his glory, plus his whole army.

KiraYamatoFan
2011-07-14, 19:53
Epic trailer! Finally, Alucard's back to kick some fanatical butt.

I should rather say: Vlad the Impaler is back!

hellbot
2011-07-18, 10:38
Yeah i think its legit this time. Alucard will be back and in the trailer Integra releases Alucard to level zero restrictions. This is gonna be bada$$. I don't think the release will get pushed back anymore. Only 9 days left to go WOOT! I just wish there was a pre-order. Anyway for those that haven't seen the trailer, you can see it on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YaROscstU0 but it is a bit of a spoiler, not much though. Just warning you. If anyone finds any other clips, please share em hear, I don't mind spoilers.

CuXe
2011-07-25, 19:18
2more days....OMFG!!!!! I feel like a quinceanera right now.....n im a guy! Lol

duckroll
2011-07-26, 22:12
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Just got my shipment email! OH BOY!!!!

Shiroth
2011-07-26, 23:29
Just got my shipment email! OH BOY!!!!
That's what i like to hear. :D

duckroll
2011-07-28, 00:46
http://i.imgur.com/dLK28.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JtclO.jpg


SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

CuXe
2011-07-28, 03:17
OMFG i want TO WATCH IT!!!!!!

konart
2011-07-28, 06:16
The RAW is on the torrents already.

Well...fail as was expected - you can't possibly expect anything good from Gonzo's ex. CG department and subcontracting studio.

80% of ova looks like a lame anime insert from cheap jRPG. Not even mentioning that almost every single moving thing on screen is crappy CG

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2011-07-28, 10:59
Don't see the problem with the CGI. Yes it could be better, but in the end the original story IS a talkfest. I guess the advantage is that I read the manga so I know what was being said without subs.

This entire episode is about Anderson, and also about Alucard's opinion about him. Anderson was just so close to being able to defeat Dracula... But he failed the final test, the one that mattered.

Those who fight monsters, must be careful of becoming monsters themselves.

Shiroth
2011-07-28, 12:34
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~
Watched it yet? :p

duckroll
2011-07-28, 12:52
Watched it yet? :p

Yeah I watched it earlier. I'm not exactly sure how I feel about it overall yet, since it's been so long since the last episode. I felt they did some of the scenes really well, and there was relatively good motion in the fight sequences. But there was also a lot of weirdness in how the overall episode was directed. More so than any other episode, there seemed to be long periods of total musical silence in this volume. Sometimes it was dramatic silence, at other times it just felt like they had no BGM to put there, or forgot.

Some of the transitions are also very unusual for an OVA. Off the top of my head I can think of 5-6 different scenes where the scene cuts out dramatically by fading out and going silent, only for the same scene to continue immediately after with a fade in. Transitions like this are typically only used for eye-catch breaks on TV episodes, or for transiting to another scene somewhere else in an OVA/movie. When it transits into the same scene, it just feels odd and badly edited.

The main complaint that I expect most people to have, is not so much that they used a ton of CG in this volume, but that most of the "River of Death" scenes from the manga are adapted using CG instead of traditional animation. Similar with how BONES handled the majority of the giant monster scenes in FMA:B with CG instead of traditional animation. It's definitely disappointing, because it stands out, and the lower CG framerate makes it looks really cheap. But there are still moments where they have 2D animation for close-ups, or when characters are fighting against the troops flowing out. Those were nice.

One minor thing I noticed was how different Anderson looks in Vol8. His face looks much shorter than before, and is almost square-ish as opposed to rectangle-ish. I dunno why that might be, since the character designer and chief animation director hasn't changed for the entire run of the OVA. It's definitely noticeable though, and it's actually consistent throughout the episode, so he looks the same in Vol8, but looks different from the way he did in the previous volumes.

I think overall they did an okay job with it, and as a Hellsing fan I still think the majority of the main sequences are pretty cool. But they definitely could have done a better job if they used less CG on the scenes which fans remember as very detailed frames in the manga. I'm not disappointed, because by this point I'm just glad the series is still being animated and that it's going to conclude.

The Dawn was a nice surprise. Instead of a SD anime short like I expected, it's actually the entire first chapter of The Dawn animated in a 9 minute episode. It ends with "to be continued" so I assume they're going to continue doing more with the remaining 2 volumes.

One thing that Vol8 retains very well is how effectively the OVA uses posed money shots. Even if the animation isn't great at times, or if the scene before it is filled with CG garbage, during key scenes when major characters "pose" at the camera for a money shot, it always looks like a really cool colored frame from the manga with more camera effects to make it more dramatic.

Jarmel
2011-07-28, 13:29
Not happy about the overuse of cgi.

Duckroll's post is a buzzkill. It seems they should have had the money to draw all these scenes out, and they certainly have the time. The poor directing also is absolutely atrocious and it seems they should know better.

Gai-Kakashi
2011-07-28, 16:17
The 'overuse' of CGI really only applied to about half a dozen shots of Vladucards army, the summoning, charge, and battle with Anderson and Millenium were both awesome and horrifying.

Wish we got to see more of the 9th Cruasade, but their opening charge was pretty freaking awesome.

The battle between Alucard and Anderson was fucking perfect, no excuses. It hit the right notes of insanity, courage, and epicness. Anderson is now and forever a BOSS.

Moments I :twitch: at.

First appearence of Vladucard.
The river of death.
Reunion with Integra and Seras.
Anderson's charge.
The battle of the monsters.

A 9/10 for me.

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2011-07-28, 18:19
One thing that Vol8 retains very well is how effectively the OVA uses posed money shots. Even if the animation isn't great at times, or if the scene before it is filled with CG garbage, during key scenes when major characters "pose" at the camera for a money shot, it always looks like a really cool colored frame from the manga with more camera effects to make it more dramatic.

Yeah, that's the thing about the OVA series as a whole. The major character moneyshots are faithful, down to some of the more twisted facial expressions the author do. And that really keeps the important moments looking good.

Friday
2011-07-29, 21:54
seen it.....loved it.....
after a year and a half of waiting......it was worth it

reuniting of master & pupil and was cute what alucard did to Victoria...very special moment:blush:

duckroll
2011-07-30, 12:30
Not happy about the overuse of cgi.

Duckroll's post is a buzzkill. It seems they should have had the money to draw all these scenes out, and they certainly have the time. The poor directing also is absolutely atrocious and it seems they should know better.

I dunno about the money. An OVA like Gundam Unicorn can sell almost 200k per volume. An OVA like Hellsing Ultimate sells about 10k per volume or less. On average I think Hellsing sells more like 6-7k per volume. Plus, when you start to get a reputation for having already replaced two studios and two directors throughout the course of the series, I think it makes the next director/studio who takes on the project less willing to give it their all. It would just be another job, instead of something you are passionately working on from the start.

Thess
2011-07-31, 20:42
I dunno about the money. An OVA like Gundam Unicorn can sell almost 200k per volume. An OVA like Hellsing Ultimate sells about 10k per volume or less. On average I think Hellsing sells more like 6-7k per volume. Plus, when you start to get a reputation for having already replaced two studios and two directors throughout the course of the series, I think it makes the next director/studio who takes on the project less willing to give it their all. It would just be another job, instead of something you are passionately working on from the start.

Do you have the number of the OVA sales? I know only the first week, the Japanese tenth tanko of Hellsing sold 97,352 units. Of course, the manga could be way more popular than the OVA. Plus it's cheaper.

Nevermind. I found some rankings. Wow. That's a real significant drop.

Spectacular_Insanity
2011-08-02, 11:48
I can't believe it finally came out. Came as a complete surprise. I was beginning to think it never would.

Man, it seems like we've been waiting for over a year for this baby to come out. Oh wait. We have.

But it was worth it. Totally worth it.

Jarmel
2011-08-02, 18:21
I dunno about the money. An OVA like Gundam Unicorn can sell almost 200k per volume. An OVA like Hellsing Ultimate sells about 10k per volume or less. On average I think Hellsing sells more like 6-7k per volume. Plus, when you start to get a reputation for having already replaced two studios and two directors throughout the course of the series, I think it makes the next director/studio who takes on the project less willing to give it their all. It would just be another job, instead of something you are passionately working on from the start.

I'm really surprised how low those numbers are.

Thess
2011-08-02, 20:46
I'm really surprised how low those numbers are.

I was in the beginning (since the manga sells a lot more than that): OVA is doing a little better than the Gonzo TV series, but not that much it seems. :(

-Sho-
2011-08-03, 10:11
That was insanely great.
Loved Alucard true form ;)

Ushio the Omega
2011-08-03, 16:56
Hellsing Volume 7 week 1 sales

DVD
61 -- *3,874 **3,874 **1 Hellsing v7

BD
22 -- *1,753 *1,753 *1 Hellsing v7

Total 5627

Did not rank second week.

To rank for second week required sales of more than 2174 DVD, 845 BD.

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/blog.php?b=3910

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/blog.php?b=3912

nines
2011-08-04, 02:04
O.O they can't kill him thats impossible x.x some one tell me its a lie

Gai-Kakashi
2011-08-04, 09:59
There's no such thing as an immortal monster.

Fight's not over yet though. However...

Ushio the Omega
2011-08-04, 13:56
Hellsing Volume 8 week 1 sales

DVD
(45) -- *2,704 *,**2,704 **1 Hellsing OVA v8

BD
(24) -- *2,462 *2,462 *1 Hellsing OVA v8


Total 5166


http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1952307#post1952307

ars89
2011-08-04, 18:35
i just don't get 2 things. What did Anderson become, he's not a vampire right? Also why is Walter young and serving the Major, i guess that will be explained later. I doubt Alucard is dead yet. That was so badass the way he entered and released all of his restraints. Since Sera is a true vampire now shouldn't she be able to reattach her arm?

Gai-Kakashi
2011-08-04, 23:54
Anderson is...

A monster of God. Think of him as an anti-Vampire.

To paraphrase Alucard, he absorbed the holy power of one of the Nails that crucified Christ. He used the remnant of a miracle to become Immortal. And yet, he is a monster, just one that accepts God.

The powers include everything you saw, insane regeneration, speed, and the power to ignite all things unholy or satanic.

Forever
2011-08-05, 04:36
i just don't get 2 things. What did Anderson become, he's not a vampire right? Also why is Walter young and serving the Major, i guess that will be explained later. I doubt Alucard is dead yet. That was so badass the way he entered and released all of his restraints. Since Sera is a true vampire now shouldn't she be able to reattach her arm?

Walter died and resurrected as a vampire?

Belial13
2011-08-05, 11:25
Heh would like to say it was worth the wait, but it relay wasn't

Was laughing like crazy when Alucard had the whole "you don't want to because a monster, your human" speech ... yeah a human who can turn in paper, has superhuman strength, can take an army of guys with guns with only knives witch he produces from his ass, ages slowly if at all... that was the word for Anderson... human ^^ ... not saying i didn't like Anderson, but human he was not

and was disjointed with Alucards final form... rotting zombies for the most part... only guys woth anything were the ones he killed in last few episodes (card guy and gun girl) ... you would think he has something more up his sleve after all these centuries... then again it's not over yet

ars89
2011-08-05, 17:23
Walter died and resurrected as a vampire?

But if did turn into a vampire shouldn't he still look old? Look at the ghouls they still looked the same age they were.

Lancaster
2011-08-08, 19:41
I just have to say that the tribute to Anderson in the credits was freaking awesome.

Especially the way they smashed into it. Out of nowhere, one of my very favorite tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddgmq7Noy7Q

ookamigirl
2011-08-13, 12:51
Okaeri crazy Naci's once again! It's been so long from the last OVA that I almost forgot how crazy things get when you have Alucard vs Naci's ^-^
That was one merciless slaughter. I must say that original non-restricted Alucard looks really really good

Battler-kun
2011-08-15, 16:27
So much style

Thess
2011-08-23, 02:13
But if did turn into a vampire shouldn't he still look old? Look at the ghouls they still looked the same age they were.

Vampires look younger. I don't remember if the OVA mentioned it (since it cuts a bunch of things... including Integra's freaking flashbacks), but in the manga, the Millennium mooks mentioned how they are younger now (and why those old men wanted vampirism).

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2011-08-23, 04:09
But if did turn into a vampire shouldn't he still look old? Look at the ghouls they still looked the same age they were.

Look at Alucard himself, he is clearly able to alter his physical age at will.

Ghouls are ghouls. Very different to vampires. Only certain interpretations of vampirisim prevents them from changing their physical appearance beyond the form they were when they Turned.

The author also joked that Seras got bigger breasts because of vampirisim.

d' airscapez
2011-08-24, 01:33
1080p out :love:

King Lycan
2011-08-24, 13:49
When Anderson was screaming "onward onward" and Alucard said he was just like "them" and there was a flashback of him and 3 other people do we know who those three are ? I think one might be the Captain

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2011-08-24, 17:03
When Anderson was screaming "onward onward" and Alucard said he was just like "them" and there was a flashback of him and 3 other people do we know who those three are ? I think one might be the Captain

Nah, they were likely some of the original hunters of Dracula in Stoker's novel. Abraham Van Helsing, Harker, Arthur and Quincey. Not sure which three out of four though.

Gai-Kakashi
2011-08-26, 00:11
Harker wasn't part of the group in the Hirano verse IIRC.

I laugh whenever I see the translation from OVA2, "The girl's heavenly host has disappeared." It should be, "the mark of the heavenly host has vanished."

duckroll
2011-11-06, 08:54
Hmmm, seems there was news on Hellsing IX a few days ago, but no one else posted about it.

Hellsing IX regular cover art:
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PpeL9ZYaL.jpg

Planned release date: Feb 15 2012

The ending theme for Vol9 is "Scars" by Maon Kurosaki. It's track 6 on her first album which will be coming out on Nov 30 2011: http://www.geneonuniversal.jp/rondorobe/music/maon/contents/hp0008/index00090000.html

There'll also be a Hellsing PV included in the DVD which comes with the LE of the album. No LE art for Hellsing Vol9 yet unfortunately. No details on what's coming with the LE either, except Amazon Japan lists 2 discs, so I expect a continuation of The Dawn to come with the LE.

j0x
2011-11-06, 11:15
nice a release date is confirmed, february 15, 2012 is gonna be kick ass

EDIT:

wow what poor sales Hellsing Ultimate got im shocked

Friday
2011-11-07, 01:53
nice a release date is confirmed, february 15, 2012 is gonna be kick ass

rubbing my hands together......can't wait:D

CuXe
2012-02-14, 19:08
1 more day to go guys... .. WOOT WOOT!!!

Tenza-Zangetsu
2012-02-15, 16:06
8.5/10, some scenes seemed lacking but was still Hellsing
poor kid Alucard, this is why I'm an atheist :l

CuXe
2012-02-16, 12:35
OMFG Im dying to watch this one.. agrrrr!!!!

White Manju Bun
2012-02-24, 13:33
I hate saying this since I feel like Im betraying Integra but Walter looks amazing!

As psychotic as he was I was kinda sad when Anderson died, he was a staple of Hellsing.

zarqu
2012-02-24, 22:08
Loved it.
It's a shame that Schrödinger got blown to pieces so fast in the end; I love listening to him :heh: Hopefully there will be a duel between Seras and him. They look cute together.
Walter was indeed awesome. I also liked the ending. The theme was pretty much heavy metal + Seras/women of Hellsing. Awesome!

I really hope the final OVA will be at least an hour long. I haven't read the manga, but it feels there's still so much left to wrap up in just one episode.

-Sho-
2012-02-25, 08:57
As usual , great ova. Animation still impressive. BGM is awesome & i love the ending.
Shame that a few people only watch it here.

Ushio the Omega
2012-02-26, 09:19
The last volume is going to be really rushed unless it's longer as there's 1 and a 3rd volumes of manga left!

After 6 years please don't let them bodge the ending.

orion
2012-02-26, 10:41
As usual , great ova. Animation still impressive. BGM is awesome & i love the ending.
Shame that a few people only watch it here.

Well it took a long time to get to this and it's prob not to the taste of the current crop of fans. Nice to see Alucard come full circle in his reasoning.

ars89
2012-02-26, 20:30
That was so awesome.

NoemiChan
2012-02-27, 10:06
The last volume is going to be really rushed unless it's longer as there's 1 and a 3rd volumes of manga left!

After 6 years please don't let them bodge the ending.

Alucard's an immortal, therefore it'll be a good ending

and oh... yeah Police Girl..;)

Friday
2012-02-27, 20:46
he was abused!!!!
never thought that would happen to him.....

wonder when they will release the final OVA....
this year or next year

kenjiharima
2012-02-27, 22:20
How many years has it been since the first OVA?

Oh btw merchandise there is a Revoltech Alucard
http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/21949-0000.jpg

FrostWolf
2012-03-02, 22:22
The last volume is going to be really rushed unless it's longer as there's 1 and a 3rd volumes of manga left!

After 6 years please don't let them bodge the ending.

You'd hope not but they seem to have crammed alot into the last two particularly with Alucard's return and battle with Anderson and then jumping straight into it with Walter

ookamigirl
2012-03-06, 14:35
Another dark brilliance from Hellsing.
The new OVA was awesome!
Alucard vs Walter was great to watch.
Walter sure had an interesting twist.
Great OVA!

tempest3991
2012-03-11, 10:29
Am I the only one who thought this was boring?

44 minute long OVA.....35 minutes of people standing around looking at each other...

Blah blah blah ur gonna die

blah blah blah no you are

blah blah blah I'm a reaper

They can't seriously cut some of this absolutely terrible dialogue? Also, why was Walter coughing up blood?

Echoes
2012-03-11, 16:55
I didn't find it boring in the least; time flew by. Which is both great and terrible, when you've waited this long for the episode. Posturing and verbal face-offs has always played a large part in Hellsing, and it's one of the few shows that I think pull it off not only successfully, but brilliantly.

The art looked great, Alucard in his different forms was particularly pleasing to the eye. Very crisp visuals overall. I hope something comes along and picks up this show's mantle. I'd love to see more visuals in the style of this show. Hard to believe it's finally coming to an end with the next episode. This series has been with me for a long, long time now.

zarqu
2012-03-11, 17:09
Also, why was Walter coughing up blood?
Was the dialogue really so terrible that you couldn't pay attention at all?

Walter was coughing up blood because the "sham, bullshit vampirization process" taxed his body too much. He did it to gain regenerative and healing powers.

That's what I inferred from Alucard and Walter's discussion at the end.


The art looked great, Alucard in his different forms was particularly pleasing to the eye. Very crisp visuals overall. I hope something comes along and picks up this show's mantle. I'd love to see more visuals in the style of this show. Hard to believe it's finally coming to an end with the next episode. This series has been with me for a long, long time now.
I agree with everything here!

DangerMouse
2012-11-08, 17:42
Loved it.
It's a shame that Schrödinger got blown to pieces so fast in the end; I love listening to him :heh: Hopefully there will be a duel between Seras and him. They look cute together.
Walter was indeed awesome. I also liked the ending. The theme was pretty much heavy metal + Seras/women of Hellsing. Awesome!

I really hope the final OVA will be at least an hour long. I haven't read the manga, but it feels there's still so much left to wrap up in just one episode.

Completely agree, the latest ep was absolutely excellent and gripping to watch.

Yeah it's true Schrödinger got blown away fast, but at the same time I just loved how badass and kind of appropriately amusing it was with how they staged that moment, with him getting shot so quickly in no nonsense fashion abruptly while he was still talking. :) It would be cool if he got to do something again before it's over since he's awesome and always funny lol.

I hate saying this since I feel like Im betraying Integra but Walter looks amazing!

As psychotic as he was I was kinda sad when Anderson died, he was a staple of Hellsing.

Could not agree more, it's tough seeing Anderson go, he was so great to watch throughout the series! Also, that sweet little video tribute to Anderson during the credits with theme music from the first TV series for him was so epic, I love how they went back and chose such a great, kick-ass track from the old Gonzo series' OST to add to the nostalgia of sadly losing Anderson while still making the tribute rock.

michelous
2012-11-08, 17:48
ova 5-8 dub comes out this coming tuesday i hope they have commentaries like ova's 1-4 did

DangerMouse
2012-11-09, 02:37
ova 5-8 dub comes out this coming tuesday i hope they have commentaries like ova's 1-4 did

Good news for us!

They do! All 4 of them have episode commentaries :)
Just got my copy in the mail.

Haven't gotten to listen to all of them yet but skimmed each just to get the beginning intros so I could list who's in each this time:

OVA 5: Taliesin Jaffe and Gildart Jackson (Major Montana Max)
OVA 6: Taliesin Jaffe and Yuri Lowenthal (Pip Bernadotte)
OVA 7: Taliesin Jaffe and Rachel Robinson (Zorin Blitz)
OVA 8: Taliesin Jaffe and Crispin Freeman (Alucard)

My only slight disappointment is sadly for some reason they didn't dub the first Hellsing: The Dawn, they only subbed it even though it's only about 10 minutes :(, but at least it's subbed and in HD. Not a big deal, but I kinda thought they'd dub it since it's short and part of the story, so it's a shame it's sub only.

So excited to watch these this weekend finally dubbed after all this time!! :)

michelous
2012-11-09, 06:19
Good news for us!

They do! All 4 of them have episode commentaries :)
Just got my copy in the mail.

Haven't gotten to listen to all of them yet but skimmed each just to get the beginning intros so I could list who's in each this time:

OVA 5: Taliesin Jaffe and Gildart Jackson (Major Montana Max)
OVA 6: Taliesin Jaffe and Yuri Lowenthal (Pip Bernadotte)
OVA 7: Taliesin Jaffe and Rachel Robinson (Zorin Blitz)
OVA 8: Taliesin Jaffe and Crispin Freeman (Alucard)

My only slight disappointment is sadly for some reason they didn't dub the first Hellsing: The Dawn, they only subbed it even though it's only about 10 minutes :(, but at least it's subbed and in HD. Not a big deal, but I kinda thought they'd dub it since it's short and part of the story, so it's a shame it's sub only.

So excited to watch these this weekend finally dubbed after all this time!! :)

i only wish the voice of seras kt grey did one http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=5056

DangerMouse
2012-11-09, 14:57
i only wish the voice of seras kt grey did one http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=5056

Totally agree with this so much. Seras is one of my favs, I really hope they can at least get her VA for one of the last two. I think they mentioned she lives farther away than most of the others but hopefully they can do whatever it takes to work it out at least just once, it would totally suck if they can't get her in for at least one of the 10 before it's all over, since for the most part she's the only one who hasn't gotten to appear on either the interviews or commentaries. Maybe when she goes in to record 9 and 10, I hope they can get her to stick around and do a commentary for one of them.

White Manju Bun
2012-12-19, 10:34
Trailer is out. MOTHER OF GOD I CANT WAIT!

http://www.fandompost.com/2012/12/19/final-japanese-hellsing-ultimate-ova-trailer-released/

Helius
2012-12-19, 14:03
Of all the years it took them to release the OVA, suddenly Gundam Unicorn doesn't sound so bad...

KleenexGhost
2012-12-19, 22:16
Unfortunately all good things must come to an end

I love this series.

MasterVampire
2012-12-19, 23:04
I only just discovered this OVA series a few weeks ago so I didnt have to wait years inbetween releases :P

ars89
2012-12-20, 13:58
That trailer looks absolutely epic, i can't wait.

monir
2012-12-20, 14:08
Trailer is out. MOTHER OF GOD I CANT WAIT!

http://www.fandompost.com/2012/12/19/final-japanese-hellsing-ultimate-ova-trailer-released/

Marry me!? On a second thought, I want my mommy. *Gulp*

It's going to be awesome!!!!!!!! :D

cassulejack
2012-12-20, 16:31
I am pumped for the New Episode. I found this Digital Comic where ALUCARD AND DANTE FIGHT. its epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1YxBLfdPtI&list=UUs2616EsXNnbreczfikzfpA&index=1

zarqu
2012-12-21, 08:35
All good things etc. I have no doubt that Hellsing Ultimate will go out in style. Can't wait!

Seras' ripped stockings <3

ars89
2012-12-30, 15:56
It was a great ride.

Is there a reason why Seras never regains her arm. She does look more awesome without it, but just wondering if there was a specific reason?

King Lycan
2012-12-30, 16:15
It was a great ride.

Is there a reason why Seras never regains her arm. She does look more awesome without it, but just wondering if there was a specific reason?


Well in the manga she does regain her arm. But I'm guessing she's still kinda getting used to the whole being a vampire thing right now so she probably doesn't know to regenerate it yet. Or she might need to feed before she can regenerate it.

Thess
2012-12-31, 17:37
It was a great ride.

Is there a reason why Seras never regains her arm. She does look more awesome without it, but just wondering if there was a specific reason?

Rule of Cool/Practical use

Friday
2013-01-04, 06:38
Great ending

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2013-01-04, 07:52
Well in the manga she does regain her arm. But I'm guessing she's still kinda getting used to the whole being a vampire thing right now so she probably doesn't know to regenerate it yet. Or she might need to feed before she can regenerate it.



In general the rule is that you can only regenerate what you had at the point you gained immortality. So things like scars and lost limbs don't get fixed. But that doesn't mean she can't create a functional limb out of magic; it just means that her "true" form would always only have one arm. It's like how Alexander Anderson has permanent war scars on his face even though he regenerates.

At this point Seras is a shape-shifter. She can look like anything she wants, she is a blob of dark energy. But still, her identity is fixed. Like how Alucard would always be a man with a moustache deep down, even if he takes a younger form mostly.

d' airscapez
2013-01-07, 07:27
omg hellsing ova 10 :eyespin:

ookamigirl
2013-01-07, 15:52
OVA 10

Intense and bloody as ever!
That's the Hellsing I loved and missed.
Seras was pretty impressive this time.
The amount of blood and death was bigger than last time.
Revelations in this episode were awesome.
Great final ova episode!

Kanon
2013-01-07, 16:07
It's finally over. It sure was a great and long ride. Almost six years since the first OVA came out... time sure flies.

-Sho-
2013-01-12, 18:42
Yeah it's over. That was epic. I won't forget about this manga.

Vicious108
2013-01-13, 08:47
Just marathoned this after waiting all this time for it to finish. How competent/faithful an adaptation would manga readers say this was overall? Because, in spite of not having read the manga, I got a feeling these OVAs must've been rushed to some extent. There were never any breather moments (other than really jarring and silly comedy segments) and character development was very scarce. It was one big (and usually mindless) fight after another, akin to the DEEN adaptation of Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works.

So yeah, overall I was somewhat disappointed. Save for some standout moments here and there (mostly involving the Major's character, as well as the entire Seras/Bernadotte/Zorin scenario), it wasn't as good as the praise I'd always read made me expect. Which is why I'm wondering if that impression might have anything to do with its quality/faithfulness as an adaptation.