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Genre: Josei, Comedy
Expected Release Date: January, 2007
Website: http://www.nodame-anime.com/
This show is based on a award winning manga by Tomoko Ninomiya. The production company is J.C.Staff (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=producer&prid=3). Neosam has a nice post on this show along with manga covers in his New announced anime (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=641973&postcount=643) thread. Synopsis is taken from anidb (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4691):
Shinichi Chiaki is the top piano student at his university and an excellent violinist, but Chiaki doesn`t care about playing these instruments as much as he dreams of someday being a conductor. Chiaki, however, has several deeply rooted fears about traveling, and so finds himself "trapped" in Japan. Because he`s trapped, Chiaki starts to question exactly how far he can possibly go in music, especially when he`s passed over again and again for others he thinks are less worthy of musical scholarship and fame.
Recently dumped by his girlfriend for a "sausage" looking fellow, passed over for a chance to go overseas, removed from his star spot in the piano competition because he walked out on his piano instructor, Chiaki is at his limit. This is when he meets Nodame, or Megumi Noda. Nodame is a free — if filthy — spirit who reminds Chiaki that music can be fun. She reminds him what drew him to be a conductor in the first place and, in learning how to deal with Nodame, Chiaki learns how to deal with others. Chiaki begins to realize what is possible for him, even on the tiny island of Japan.
For Nodame, Chiaki is everything she isn`t. Clean, neat, dedicated, studious and inherently arrogant about his accomplishments and capabilities, Chiaki constantly bullies her into being more serious about life. He sees potential in her and her abilities as a pianist that she doesn`t care about. She loves Chiaki and wants to be with him, but, because she`s not serious about her piano studies nor her personal hygiene, Chiaki denies her affections again and again.
But Chiaki and Nodame complete each other in ways no other can, a musical compliment that neither of them can completely escape entirely. Watching them grow as people and musicians, and even as a couple, is an interesting ride.
I cannot wait. I absolutely adore the manga and cannot wait for the anime version.
Siegel Clyne
2006-10-24, 02:48
The official website for the Nodame Cantabile anime is up.
http://www.nodame-anime.com/
andromeda0201
2006-10-24, 11:09
I thought the synopsis of this looked familiar, apparantly the first episode of the live action of this has just been released in japan, it seems pretty faithful to what is said in the synopsis. Just watched it and is really interesting, will follow the anime when its released
Volume 16 of the josei manga Nodame Cantabile got out this month (October 2006).
The cover of volume 16 can be viewed in this post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=641973&postcount=643) with the rest of the covers ^^
From looking at the covers, I'm starting to think that Nodame will play a different musical instrument in every episodes. The number of episodes are listed in AniDB (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4691) as 23, so that's 23 different instrument!!? Looking forward to it! Thanks NeoSam! ;)
The official website for the Nodame Cantabile anime is up.
http://www.nodame-anime.com/
I've added the url in the opening post. Thank you very much!
Despite what the covers show, I believe Nodame only plays one instrument (the piano). At least as of where the US manga is (volume 6) I've never seen her play a different instrument. Part of the show is that her piano playing is more of an instinctive talent than a skill. I think they show her with different instruments on the cover of each volume because she's part of an orchestra, but she's the title character. So they just show her with a different instrument rather than showing different members of the orchestra.
It's funny because when I first started reading, I thought she was going to play a bunch of different instruments too. :)
shadowplay
2006-10-24, 17:59
Is that trailer about anime that Nodame watches in manga?
The show itself should be total riot, think classical music fueled H&C that's kinda less 'emo' and more 'funny', can't wait to see Chiaki-sama freaking out over Nodame's clumsiness in animated form :D.
I saw the first episode of the live drama and I absolutely cannot wait to see this animated! The anime would definitely be awesome if it's anything like that - I'm so in love with the orchestral pieces. Since it's going to replace Hataraki Man on the NOITAMINA slot, my expectations just doubled (this is bad..). :heh:
Nodame Cafe, lol.
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By the way, I seem to get a lot of people thinking hentai thoughts when I mention "Nodame". :D
NoSanninWa
2006-10-29, 11:47
Whoa! It's Noitamina! I have got to pay better attention to what is going to be airing in that slot. (I usually only bother to find out after the last show ended.) My interest in Nodame Cantabile just skyrocketed.
Gasp! New Noitamina slot show!
I've heard a lot about this and hear it has an amazing story, so I guess I will check it out. I've lazily avoided it until now because the art and heroine didn't appeal to me, but with J.C.Staff behind the wheel it definitely has potential.
And La Corda d'Oro has made my appreciation for music-appreciation shows go way up. :D
I wonder what Nodame Cafe is like...
Siegel Clyne
2006-11-24, 06:58
According to this post (http://anime.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/voice/1155151283/669) on the 2ch thread, Nodame Cantabile no Seiyuu ni Tsuite Katarou (Let's Talk About the Voice Actors for Nodame Cantabile) (http://anime.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/voice/1155151283/)...
Nodame Cantabile Cast
Character : Seiyuu
Nodame [Noda Megumi] : Kawasumi Ayako
Chiaki [Shin'ichi] : Seki Tomokazu
Milch [Franz von Stresemann] : Ogawa Shinji
Mine [Ryuutarou] : Kawada Shinji
[Okuyama] Masumi : Fujita Yoshinobu
[Takaya] Saiko : Nabatame Hitomi
A few hours ago, I added the above names (http://imepita.jp/trial/20061124/631020) to the Japanese cast on the Anime News Network Encylopedia entry for Nodame Cantabile (TV). (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7010)
In regard to Nodame Cantabile, the manga and the live action television drama series have performed well, which can only help the anime. For NANA and DEATH NOTE, the popular successes of the manga and the live action movies almost certainly have helped the anime versions of those titles.
physics223
2006-11-24, 23:34
Noitamina's REALLY consistent with showing quality stuff. :D
I'm so looking forward to the anime. The live action drama is so addictive and I love it. (It's probably the only drama based on manga that I like.) The timing is also just perfect for the anime to come right after the drama. Surely the drama won't be able to cover everything (and probably won't show some kind of ending). And so the anime probably will be able to fill in and carry on a bit longer (at least enough for me to see Chiaki and Nodame's relationship getting more concrete.)
I don't think it's just a good timing. I believe they intentionally scheduled the drama and anime close to each other. Both drama and anime are on Fuji TV. And both are using the Nodame Orchestra, especially formed for these shows. (http://www.nodame-orche.com/)
As for what the anime will cover, I'm very curious. The drama is slated for 11 episodes. Episode 1 was 1.5 hr special. I wouldn't be surprised they did the same for the final episode too. That's like having 12 1-hr episodes. Compare that to the anime version, which is slated for 23 30-minute episodes IIRC. If anime starts at the beginning, then it's just the right amount to cover just the same materials, just presented differently.
My guess is that the drama will go as far as... Chiaki overcoming his fear for flying, and taking off for his conducting career in France. If that's the case and if anime actually takes the story after that, then that would be interesting on its own too. (And it's gonna kill me when I try to fansub that section x.x)
Gak, spoiler tags please - I'm not that far in the manga yet. :(
Well, the Live drama and the manga are very different, not in the sense of plot but the emphases. I know some of you are very impressed by the Live series and scenes like S sym's first performance (so do I -- I think it's great too) but the point the manga trying to make is quite different in a sense -- it doesnt have much love story (though the Chinese translation of the title is VERY MISLEADING) but developments of future professional musicians. I know some of you didnt read the original manga but are following the Live series may now rub your hands for the anime in Jan, but be prepared: the ambiences are VERY different.
The original manga is A LOT more about music, and the interaction b/w nodame and her piano is one of the two major highlights. The TV is a lot more comedy oriented, and just from the choice of cast (cough) alone can tell.
In my opinion, quality of music is the most important aspect to how I will judge this anime. Those who has seen my comment on Garten's Blog "Memento" already knows why I thought the music in the drama was special or a dud. The manga is about developement of professional musicians, thus most of the jokes and poignant moments cannot be conveyed without the 'correct' music. Getting the 'right' music is doable, but it will going to cost the anime producers a lot of money in loyalties to Deutsche Gramaphonn and EMI recordings. I do not see what other elements from the manga would be able to generate broad public attention that is important for commercial success of the anime series. The live drama has raised the barin music, in my opinion, and if the anime fails to hurdle even higher musical bars, many people who watches it because of the music wil be very disappointed: From what I am hearing from Japan and Korea, where there are more fans of the drama who has never read the manga than who has read it, quality of the music was quoted as the biggest draw to the drama.
I have not seen live action since Gokusan 1 and Hana Yori Dango but after seeing how people rave about Nodame Cantabile, I went and watched episode 1 and fell in love with the music in the show.
The live action is definately high budget stuff. Like everyone else said already the music is beautiful.
I hope the anime can match the live action in terms of music. If it can I am definately watching it.
MrProphet
2006-12-25, 11:17
The cast for the show is pretty rad.
It goes without saying that I will be following it religiously.
Burner of Anime
2006-12-25, 18:29
In my opinion, quality of music is the most important aspect to how I will judge this anime. Those who has seen my comment on Garten's Blog "Memento" already knows why I thought the music in the drama was special or a dud. The manga is about developement of professional musicians, thus most of the jokes and poignant moments cannot be conveyed without the 'correct' music. Getting the 'right' music is doable, but it will going to cost the anime producers a lot of money in loyalties to Deutsche Gramaphonn and EMI recordings.
Personally, I don't see this as a problem because the lead VA herself IS a professional musician. Pianist. Has also written for the instrument and performed the music for a show before.
Was looking at the concept and thought there was only 1 person on earth with both the right experiance and credentials to take Noda. Not suprised Noitama went to the trouble to actually get her.
This will go well. I'm already anticipating the start of this show. :D
It's funny because when I first started reading, I thought she was going to play a bunch of different instruments too. :)
I forgot which volume, but Nodame plays a pianica in her cute mongoose costume for the S-orchestra. But, still irrelevant since pianica is half piano and half harmonica.
I truly cannot wait for this anime series to start. Fantastic cast of voice actors (I love Ayako Kawasumi), Kenichi Kasai and J.C. Staff should do wonders for Nodame. I saw their short 2:50 clip of "Purigorota" anime at their official site (which was used in the drama), and if that is any indication of how Nodame anime will be, it will be excellent; the facial expression is hilarious and the quality of anime should be top-notch. And the music should be wonderful, as well.
I personally think the drama version is a bit lacking since the comedy aspect of Nodame is a little too hard to pull-off in the live version. Don't get me wrong, I think the drama is wonderful to an extent. I just think the animated version will do more justice for a title like Nodame. I will also follow this religiously and I cannot wait!
Siegel Clyne
2006-12-28, 00:15
According to this (http://www3.diary.ne.jp/logdisp.cgi?user=309853&log=20061226), the final episode of the Nodame Cantabile live action drama series drew a 21.7% television audience rating.
Really looking forward to the anime, the manga is so far, talking about the American releases here, really good.
According to this (http://www3.diary.ne.jp/logdisp.cgi?user=309853&log=20061226), the final episode of the Nodame Cantabile live action drama series drew a 21.7% television audience rating.
Not too shabby indeed.
shikamarufoo
2007-01-11, 13:22
I loved watching the drama and will warmly welcome the anime and it's differences. The 1st episode airs today doesn't it?
Watched ep. 01
I do believe the series can be very successful, however I heard that they've shortened things quite a bit. While I haven't read the manga, I very much enjoyed the episode, still I couldn't shake off the lingering feeling of this being shoujo.
The beginning didn't fascinate me too much with the whole "Chiaki is afraid of travelling overseas" thing. I believe the reasons for this could've been a bit more dramatic, so the whole plot sounds like one of a badly designed harem one.
What disappointed me the most was actually the very obvious play of some seiyuu. Kawasumi Ayako was too obvious, also when I heard Etou-sensei's seiyuu, I screamed out "Zoro!"
I found both the OP and the ED song very refreshing, and I think it was the right decission to make them something that wasn't connected to classical music. I loved the Mozart sonata which the main characters performed.
I read some 2ch comments, and I believe they're wrong when they said that the episode was lacking classical music. I believe it has a fair dosage of it.
While I did enjoy the episode, especially all the comedy sequences, I think I won't give this show much chance. I'll stick to it for a few episodes to see if it turns out into something remarkable. Because I watch shoujo so rarely, I don't expect anything less from it, otherwise I drop. But that's just me. Also, Nodame is in my opinion cute, but she's a fat ass and such girls are just not permitted in anime. IMO.
My summary of the episode and some screen captions can be found here (http://www.moedosed.com/2007/01/11/%e3%80%8cnodame-cantabile%e3%80%8d-ep-01/).
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-11, 17:01
Personally, I think shoujo romance is great. It tends to have deeper psychological insights, more interesting characters, and more intense feelings than other genres. And all genres repeat their standard memes. I'm sure individuals like Toua have good reasons for not liking shoujo, but I think there is an unjustified mass prejudice against shoujo that allows people in general to feel they can criticise it in ways they do not criticise shows that involve mecha and monsters, for example, which are the things that put me off. For me, monster-of-the-week is the most boring meme of all. Sorry. I keep repeating myself on this subject.
I look forward to seeing Nodame Cantabile later today, having loved the dorama. And I'm fascinated to see how Kawasumi Ayako and Seki Tomokazu do. I felt that Nodame was rather overplayed in the dorama, especially at first, so perhaps it's the same here.
Omniscient
2007-01-11, 17:19
Episode 01 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/01/11/nodame-cantabile-01/)
And I'm fascinated to see how Kawasumi Ayako and Seki Tomokazu do.
I thought they did a fantastic job as the main pair, though I confess I still haven't seen the drama. Kawasumi Ayako's "gyabo" and so on felt dead-on.
I must admit that this is the show that I was waiting for a loong time to see :D I didn't watch the first ep yet (couldn't find Raw, but I'll probably wait for the fansubs). I really love the manga and drama (which was rather strange at the begining, but later on it became hilarious ^^).
Omni I higly reccomend you to watch the drama (even only for the gyabo~ scenes with Ueno Juri or ~eek! scenes with Tamaki Hiroshi :D )
dxgarten
2007-01-11, 17:52
Episode 01 screencaps and summary (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/nodamecantabile_ep01.html)
This is pretty much similar to the manga although it ends at the same point (minus the epilogue and many other scenes) as the live action version. I'm not used to Nodame's voice since I'm so used to hearing Ueno Juri's more mature voice by now.
I just watched the OP provided by Omniscient and noticed about 30 seconds of silence while the animation still continued.. why is this? Awesome song by the way.
Looks like I can't help but comparing this to the drama. The characters are not 'pretty' enough. I know I've been spoiled. :D
Looks like I can't help but comparing this to the drama. The characters are not 'pretty' enough. I know I've been spoiled. :D
Which is funny because I thought Juri Ueno was too 'pretty' to play as Nodame, that and her hair was constantly well groomed. :heh:
Hey there's no such thing as "too pretty" especially when it's the eye candy factor. :D This is probably the first anime with characters designs that don't live up the live action version in term of 'aesthetic'. (Or maybe I'm just very inclined.) :D
Spied the screencaps and spoilers and I cannot wait to see a subbed version! Goes on my list of "now watching"!
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Does anyone know what fansub group has picked this up?
White Manju Bun
2007-01-11, 21:20
Just saw from the first page that Seki Tomokazu is Chiaki so Im in :D
Just saw from the first page that Seki Tomokazu is Chiaki so Im in :D
Yes!! Love him too. I try to watch anime that he's been in. Honestly, before anime I never though I'd be a seiyuu fan. :D
MrProphet
2007-01-12, 00:28
The animation is very minimalistic and the pattern illustrations are pretty much nonexistent, but the hypochondriac Chiaki and ditzy Nodame charmed me into submission.
Seki Tomokazu and Ayako Kawasumi were definitely bringing this show alive. It was, for all intents and purposes, a concert for the two of them to perform.
Stylistically, this is like "Honey & Clover", sans the more complex backgrounds. They might come into play later on, but for now, this is strictly a "character-driven show", with not much effort to create animated sequences at all.
White Manju Bun
2007-01-12, 01:20
I really like the OP song. I did find it very funny that Chiaki (with the voice of Sousuke) gets smacked in the head with a fan XD (well it looked like a fan) I wondered if Chiaki was gonna sound like Sousuke or Ryuuki (from Saiunkoku) but Im glad he sounds more like Sousuke. Man I can sympathize with Chiaki, I also hate flying x__x
I just watched the first episode and I think its off to a good start. The comedy scenes seem more natural in the anime compared to the drama (Im trying my hardest not to compare the two :heh: ). The piano scenes are also well done with Nodame's famous mouth pose. The cantabile piano sonatas were good, but I just wish it had more impact.
Ayako Kawasumi is amazing. I always had respect for her style range and her role as Nodame is no exception; I absoultely love the ending scene where Nodame is describing her 'newfound feeling' - "Mukya~".
Stylistically, this is like "Honey & Clover", sans the more complex backgrounds. They might come into play later on, but for now, this is strictly a "character-driven show", with not much effort to create animated sequences at all.
Could this be the reason for why the ED animation is 'too simple'? The ED animation has so much unused white canvas area that I question why they chose to do it that way.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-12, 03:00
It took me about two minutes to get over the drama and be totally captivated by Seki Tomokazu and Kawasumi Ayako. Talk about note-perfect. To paraphrase MrProphet, it is a NodameChiaki concerto. Must give the director and/or sound director credit for some of that, too. A lovely pattern of sound.
Director: Kasai Kenichi (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=12534) カサヰ ケンイチ(Honey & Clover, Major).
Sound Director: Aketagawa Jin (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=8466) 明田川仁 (Noein, Ichigo Mashimaro, Genshiken, Honey & Clover, Kujibiki Unbalance, Uta~Kata, Witchblade, Shana, Kashimashi, etc.)
I read a bit of the manga and saw the whole drama, and I enjoyed the drama so much that the differences at first worried me. But as much as I loved the drama leads, this seems just a little more precise. Chiaki doesn't feel so high-handed, and Nodame doesn't feel so out of it. It is interesting to start to see the very different strengths that anime has, compared to drama. For one thing, the simpler image can focus your attention much more easily. For another, the violent parts of the humor are less disturbing.
By the way, I thought Nabatame Hitomi as the ex-girlfriend was wonderful, too.
froinlaven
2007-01-12, 19:57
I'm really happy with the way this anime turned out. Of course, it might help that I'm kind of a band nerd, but the story seems really interesting. Nodame is totally cute in that weird girl kinda way.
Full impressions here (http://www.basugasubakuhatsu.com/blog/2007/01/12/nodame-cantabile-anime-first-impressions/).
I think this is clearly turning out to be a very good series in my humble opinion, and one that i will keenly look upon. With randomc and memento blogging on it, i will just leave the blogging to them while I will watch and laugh happily at the antics.
Having watched the first episode twice now (translated the second time, which helped enjoyment a good deal =p) I'm most definitely going to like this show. For a story I had never heard of until a few days ago (clearly not having read the manga or seen the live action) it's a nice surprise.
Seems to be quite well balanced between a good solid story, and humour, with a hint of romance. Quite excellent.
mangafanatic
2007-01-13, 17:20
Is anyone fansubbing this anime yet? I really want to see it!
piccahoe
2007-01-13, 17:34
I have watched all the episode of the drama which was really amazing. I am now reading the manga and looking forward to the anime! I hope a fansub group will pick this up!
my favorite part of the drama (if you watched the whole thing)
when chaki runs up and glomps nodame from behide.
(I'm not sure if this was in the manga or not)
@piccahoe It was in the manga :D
jiru-kun
2007-01-13, 20:18
I was considering to sub this in english too, if nobody else is going to do it.
piccahoe
2007-01-14, 00:43
@piccahoe It was in the manga :D
arigato for confirming that!
I was considering to sub this in english too, if nobody else is going to do it.
onigaishimasu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EmptySoul
2007-01-14, 05:16
Whee~ Episode one was so good! I really liked the part where...
When he is outside of her house and there's like juice and ants then he freaks out and cleans XD. I also liked the part where he washes her hair! This show is absolutly hilarious! :D
Whee~ Episode one was so good! I really liked the part where...
When he is outside of her house and there's like juice and ants then he freaks out and cleans XD. I also liked the part where he washes her hair! This show is absolutly hilarious! :D
Indeed. :D
The washing her hair part was probably my favourite scene. He really does seem like he's dealing with an animal. :D
This is such an excellent show.
kauldron26
2007-01-14, 06:32
i guess i'll check this out... since NHK is over, im yearning for a new slice of life drama.
Uhm. The jokes were turned off for the anime version which I think gives this version the thumbs up to go into the drama part of things without the viewers getting burned by the lack of comedy.
Op and Ed were both good and totally gave me Honey and Clover vibes. The sound director really did a heck of job distinguishing the piano styles between Chiaki and Nodame. You could hear the notes desynch when they did the two piano the first time.
I couldn't really put a finger to Seki Tomokazu's voice, I was hoping Ueda Yuji would do Chiaki as that would really fit imho.
Err.. Sound Production: Rie Tanaka... Like woah!?
kari-no-sugata
2007-01-14, 06:36
I watched ep 1 without really knowing anything about it beforehand. I'm glad I did - so far, this is the best of the new anime series.
I just re-read my Nodame volume 1 manga just for the hell of it and I noticed quite a few very minor comedy parts were taken out just from the first 3 chapters alone: Anime doesn't show Nodame stealing lunch; Chiaki does not refer to 'that student who went to study in Germany' (forgot his name) as sausage; there are a few more I can't remember at this moment. These parts were probably taken out because they want the anime to have more of a drama feel over comedy, on the otherhand, I personally think the manga has a pretty even amount of both. Ah, it doesn't really matter... Kasai Kenichi did a wonderful job picking out only what is truly important from the manga for Hachikuro, so I'll trust him with Nodame.
cipotlar
2007-01-14, 08:26
I agree with some of the posters here, several scenes have been omitted in anime version. However, I do want to see how these scenes got animated :
- When Nodame explained to Chiaki that bathing is once a day, shampooing is once per 3 or 4 days
- When Tanioka sensei explain why he had chosen Mozart's piano sonata for 2 pianos for Chiaki to practise.
That being said, kudos for J.C. staff for brilliant animation and the sound is very good. I'm a bit disappointed when knowing that they don't use any classical music pieces in OP and ED. The OP and ED themselves are quite good, esp. the ED, when it started playing before the ending credit - H&C anyone? , and the first couple of notes of EDs resembled some melodies of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 - 1st movement (at least in my ear).
Overall, good start for a very good series.
I watched ep 1 without really knowing anything about it beforehand. I'm glad I did - so far, this is the best of the new anime series.
I agree. I had no expectations and thought it was fantastic. Loved the music of-course and Nodame's odd little asides and mutterings, especially that 'gyabo'. I can't say I like Chiaki that much, he comes across as a bit unlikeable, but I guess that's the idea.
According to ASS (http://www.animenewsservice.com/) (regarding the first episode):
According to series production elements, the airing has logged the all time highest audience rating for a late night TV anime, netting a 5.4% share...
Wow.
physics223
2007-01-14, 09:10
At last SOMETHING's worth watching this season.
Gyabo~!
I watched the live-action drama in the space of a month (last month, to be precise), and I was totally hooked on it. And the fact that the anime series is directed by the director of Honey and Clover and that it's on Noitamina... *__*
Even wao is interested in watching it, which is surprising. :heh: It's also very much appealing to me because of its focus on classical music and performances. *liked seeing how Nodame's fingers move in the live-action version* :D
I hope the torrent will finish soon, though... It's positively crawling. :(
This is a GREAT first episode ! There are great music and there is funny !
I like the Chiaki Room's ^^
I'm hooked. Now I need to find out how many episodes there will be and when it airs exactly. Can't wait for the next ep!
EmptySoul
2007-01-14, 14:38
It's going to be 23 episodes that much I know. I really, really enjoyed this show. Nodame is completely shameless. Especially when she's all like "Oooh! What kind of dog?!" XD I've watched the ep a few times, and it just doesn't cease to crack me up. I can't wait for more either~
Hmm, having watched some of the J-drama I wonder if it will play out along the same lines, in which case it will be hilarious.
But yay for another fun show.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-14, 14:53
I'm hooked. Now I need to find out how many episodes there will be and when it airs exactly. Can't wait for the next ep!It airs Thursday nights at 1 am and there are 23 episodes.
I have this information for almost all current anime on my winter 2007 anime schedule (http://hashihime.atspace.com/0701sched.htm). There are links there to the official site for more broadcast details, and to ANN for cast/staff details in English.
ZeusIrae
2007-01-14, 15:25
Excellent first ep,definitely worth watching,it's going to be one of the best show of winter 2007.
I was running out of good anime to watch.
Chiaki's room is really scary,I don't think it's possible to be so......is there any word to describe it?messy,nah too weak,..chaotic maybe.
DragoonKain3
2007-01-14, 17:52
Can this be the new Honey and Clover? That was the first impression I had, since the animation and the pacing is quite similar. When I found out that it was the same studio who di H&C, it came to me as no surprise.
I most especially love the VAs. Kawasumi and Seki does a role reversal in comparison to their Kanon counterparts, and I absolutely love it. Having Kawasumi doing all those cute sound effects are a highlight for me, since usually the characters that she's usually cast in don't really do that sort of thing.
So far, the best anime of this season. And while I have only seen a couple of shows, it would take a whole darn lot to topple this off its place.
Burner of Anime
2007-01-14, 18:18
Oh gods, the fart song midway had me laughing till the tears came out. :heh: Who wrote that dirty little piece anyway?
Lots of memories this show brought up though, I had a piano teacher that was pretty strict on personal hygiene.
I really, really liked it. The animation was like Honey & Clover (which I loved), I loved the seiyuu's work (gr8 choice I think), and it was honestly funny. Some shows just try to hard to be funny, but this really was.
No harems, no ecchi, no cliches, no lolis, no big-eyed moe character...I love it! It goes in my keep pile, along with other, more mature animes like NANA and Honey & Clover. I swore I wouldn't pick up more anime (I'm watching 10 that are currently airing) but screw it, I couldn't wait for this one.
Funniest bit was when he saw the juice oozing from her balcony onto his and the ants; running into her apartment after knocking her out of the way (while she's wearing his belt!); then asking her what the hell she was keeping - cream stew, salmon roe rice, something to be washed (a mushroom!), and something she doesn't even know what it is! LOL
An awesome first episode! It just made me smile. I loved the VA's, the characters and the fact it had all that classical music in it.
Nodame's room made go :twitch: , but Chiakis reactions to it just made me laugh out loud. What guy would wash & dry a girls hair normally ...
This one is definitely on my (at the moment rather short) list.
Busaiku Chama
2007-01-14, 22:26
Rack me up as another person who really loved it.
Nodame was really enjoyable throughout the episode, and paired with Chiaki's attitude made it really nice.
And of course, being worked on by the same team (I think?) that did Honey & Clover isn't hurting it either.
Ah crap. I fell inlove with the ED song.. Whats up with the noitamina shows and their well-produced ED songs?
Paradise Kiss
Honey and Clover
Jyuu Oh Sei
Hataraki Man
~Ayakashi~
Ahh.. Crystal Kay's song is stuck on my head right now.
Sorrow-K
2007-01-15, 02:54
Honestly, other than H&C, I've been disappointed by most Noitamina series I've seen. Anyway, that aside.
Ep 1.
I have a newfound respect for Kawasumi Ayako. I've always thought she was an underrated seiyuu but her performance in this episode shows just what she's capable of. She just absolutely nailed that character and completely brought her to life. I was very impressed.
As far as the rest of the ep is concerned, it was a tad dull until Nodame's appearance. After that, it came to life. Her character really is something else and, in a sense, it completely altered the atmosphere up until that stage into something more interesting and more fitting for a first episode. I dig these eccentric characters, since they're always a recipe for entertainment. The set up appears to be a fairly standard "put two complete opposites together and see how the interact and eventually fall in love" but that's generally a formula for success provided the characters are interesting... and we know that at least one of them is. Chiaki is still yet to win me over, since he's a very straightforward character, but I expect that to change with time.
Technically this anime is really good. Music, animation, directing, seiyuu, there's nothing to complain about it any of these. Good stuff. I'm intrigued. But it hasn't grabbed me the same way Bokura ga Ita's first ep did (which is the shoujo show I'm currently swooning over). Provided they do things right there's no reason this can't be a winner.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-15, 03:25
According to ASS (http://www.animenewsservice.com/) (regarding the first episode):
According to series production elements, the airing has logged the all time highest audience rating for a late night TV anime, netting a 5.4% share...I think the ASS artiucle may actually not be quite right. According to Animate TV (http://www.animate.tv/nf/detail.php?id=0000001136) (Japanese), the show recorded the highest-ever rating for the first episode of a late-night anime. There is also some question as to what constitutes a late-night anime. NANA, which at the time started at 11:55 pm, got a 6.2 rating for its first episode, according to one site (http://www.geocities.jp/animesityouritu/2006a.html).
This takes nothing away from the amazing success of the first episode of NC, which aired later, at 12:45 in the morning.
On another note, I have just noticed that Tanaka Rie -- either the seiyuu or someone who spells her name exactly the same -- is credited as "responsible for sound work" (音響制作担当) in NC. I don't know what this means, but I thought I'd mention it as a matter of interest and in case someone else does know what's going on. I was very impressed with Tanaka Rie's performance as the lead in Hataraki Man, and she is known as a capable person who was an artist before she was a VA. Perhaps she now does sound work as well.
MrProphet
2007-01-15, 04:39
As Kaoru Chujo has mentioned, NANA is retting stellar ratings despite airing at night.
As for Noitamina, here are the ratings for the first episodes of the previous shows in this program:
Honey and Clover: 3.8%
Paradise kiss: 3.5%
Akayashi: 2.8%
Jyuohsei: 3.4%
Honey and Clover 2: 3.6%
Hatarakiman: 4.6%
Nodame Cantabile: 5.4% (according to the article above, at least)
The highest rated Noitamina episode before Nodame Cantabile was Hatarakiman 10, which netted 5.1% rating, followed by Ayakashi 10, which got a 5.0% rating. Nodame Cantabile certainly broke that ceiling thanks to the fame of the j-dorama, but still, it has nothing on NANA, which airs an hour earlier and easily grabs 5's and 6's (6.3% being its highest rating).
Ep 1
Like the rest, I felt H&C vibes. :heh: Ever since I've noticed how famous and great the manga is, I've been looking forward to check out this story.
I really love this anime! It has comedy and romance with beautiful people, what more could I ask? :D I also like to complement on the performance of the seiyuus. I can't believe that Nodame is Kaori in Kanon nor Shinichi is Nobu from Nana. :p
Nodame is truly one of a kind LOL, she's so clumsy and dirty. I wonder what's her background's story. Is there any special reason for wanting to call her "Nodame" instead of "Noda"?
Yay for Josei~ <3
MrProphet
2007-01-15, 05:06
Is there any special reason for wanting to call her "Nodame" instead of "Noda"?
Her name is Noda Megumi, which yields Nodame.
And I thought that was obvious. :) Nodame.
I think her name turned into a joke. She steals lunchboxes and the classmates react by saying.. "no dame!!!!!!!" which ofcourse you know what it means.
Sorrow-K
2007-01-15, 07:55
On another note, I have just noticed that Tanaka Rie -- either the seiyuu or someone who spells her name exactly the same -- is credited as "responsible for sound work" (音響制作担当) in NC. I don't know what this means, but I thought I'd mention it as a matter of interest and in case someone else does know what's going on. I was very impressed with Tanaka Rie's performance as the lead in Hataraki Man, and she is known as a capable person who was an artist before she was a VA. Perhaps she now does sound work as well.ANN is reporting it's the same person. What "Sound Production" actually means though, who knows? That could almost mean anything. She could be tuning the pianos for all we know.
Ah sorry! I thought it was something else othar than her name (like maybe the word Nodame means something). :D
Also... I wash my hair every 4~5 days and I'm sure it doesn't stink. :heh: That scene confused me but ofcourse made me laugh.
Burner of Anime
2007-01-15, 10:52
ANN is reporting it's the same person. What "Sound Production" actually means though, who knows? That could almost mean anything. She could be tuning the pianos for all we know.
Mental Image of Rie Tanaka tuning a piano.....:rolleyes:
That's a profitable business modal by itself :heh:
This show is making me itch to take up the piano again after near 20 years. My sight reading is pretty poor, but like Nodame I've a pretty good ear and a sequential memory.
I dunno. Maybe because I entered Nodame via the live-action drama, somehow Nodame's quirky remarks like "gyabo" seem different from Ueno Juri's brilliant and adorable acting. But I'm in no way dissing Kawasumi Ayako's skills on the anime version.
However, this anime is still true to its original so I'm watching it.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-15, 14:04
Further to the Tanaka Rie thing, she is listed as "responsible for sound production" in the end credits, and then Magic Capsule is credited right after her for "sound production," as if she was in charge and they did it. The fact that Magic Capsule seems to be a doujin distribution group has me even more confused.
Off-topic: From what I read on Japanese Wikipedia (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%B0%E4%B8%AD%E7%90%86%E6%81%B5), Tanaka Rie sounds like quite a person. She is quite beautiful, yet her manager says she is like a man. Her motto is apparently: "Never back down, never run away, never give up." Once she was groped on a train, and she grabbed the guy and dragged him off onto the platform, then shouted insults after him as he ran away. If you're interested, her blog (http://www.tanaka-rie.com/diary/) is worth looking at. Among other things, she fills it with pics of herself cosplaying. But I didn't find any reference to sound production in a brief scan of the text.
As for Kawasumi Ayako vs. Ueno Juri, I found Ueno's acting too extreme at first, like a sort of burlesque. Kawasumi is striking a more comfortable note for me right from the start. Of course, I came to love Ueno, too. "Adorable" is right.
And as for the nickname "Nodame," I'd like someone who really knows to be more specific than just "of course you know what that means," but I think the idea is right, that people are always telling her "da-me," which means "no," or "bad," or "don't do that," or "fouled up."
I'm glad Nodame Cantabile is getting lots of love. You know it's a good show when you watch it and at the end think, "that was too short, I wanna see more." I can't wait until next week. It's one of those shows that I'll be impatiently awaiting the follow episodes.
On another note, I have just noticed that Tanaka Rie -- either the seiyuu or someone who spells her name exactly the same -- is credited as "responsible for sound work" (音響制作担当) in NC.
Same name, different person. Same credit is given to the person for sound in the anime "Glass no Kantai."
Sorrow-K
2007-01-15, 16:41
Same name, different person. Same credit is given to the person for sound in the anime "Glass no Kantai."Does that Tanaka cosplay too?
radancein
2007-01-15, 23:22
Having already seen the live-action drama, I felt confident enough to watch this without subs. Am I glad I did, cause I was thus better able to appreciate the wonderful VA by Kawasumi Ayako. She really breathed life into the character.
Can't wait for Milch to appear..
Can't wait for Milch to appear..
Don't forget Masumi-chan. ;)
Well in a fit of late night procrastination, I'll comment.
I like the first episode, great jokes and timing there of. I feel strangely drawn to the musical aspects of the story, probably because im attending a college that has a world renowned conservatory maybe. Anyways, all around solid ep and appealing to me, I think i'll stick with this one (I need something light after seeing Children of Men today, yyyeeeesssshhh)
Pakxenon
2007-01-16, 03:47
I have a feeling I'll like this one more than Honey and Clover since it's music-related. Great, great stuff. I can't wait for the next episode.
The first episode did a good job at keeping the style from the manga that made me love it so much - so of course that makes me pretty happy with the series so far, though we shall have to see how this one ends up. There's still plenty more to happen - and how it'll happen is what i'm looking forward to see.
And of course - music = Love!
Jewelray
2007-01-16, 22:47
The first episode sold me. I want more.
Classical music humor...It's so funny I almost want to show it to all my friends who are studying music... Heck, it almost makes me regret not being a music major...(but not really...)
PEDOS_GRANDE
2007-01-16, 23:24
The first episode sold me. I want more.
Classical music humor...It's so funny I almost want to show it to all my friends who are studying music... Heck, it almost makes me regret not being a music major...(but not really...)
Don't worry. You may regret it now but when you are making twice what your music major friends are in 5 years, you'll feel pretty good.
c1anime do the translation directly from japanese?
O.o
Dragosmore
2007-01-17, 18:11
Yes, I translate Nodame for C1 and I directly translate from Japanese to English.
I've thinked it was from chinese or HK subs ;)
Thanks for your explanation :)
Dragosmore
2007-01-17, 19:18
I hope you mean that because of the speed of our release, because that's quite an insult. The translation is correct.
While on the topic of translation, I was wondering how you guys will approach the fact that Nodame has her own unique phrases such as "mukya" and "gyabo". Also, Nodame really likes to use her own name in her speech (they have a word for this but I forgot :heh: )... how do you plan to translate this? I saw C1Anime's first Nodame episode, and I have no complaint but I am just curious since her speech and unique phrases make her even more special. Thanks for subbing this by the way.
chibi_star1
2007-01-18, 07:19
i enjoyed the first episode and i can't wait for more! i'm a sucker for music themed anime!
I think its obvious whenever Nodame says any of her signature lines. Just listen carefully. =p
Ha that was kinda weird when hearing that first piano teacher talk... ZORO! :heh:
Anyway this looks interesting, I particularly liked the hair washing scene (she feels like a queen getting pampered, he feels like a dog groomer). :D
I hope you mean that because of the speed of our release, because that's quite an insult. The translation is correct.
I for really appreciate the speed at which it was done. I love C1's releases. You've got great quality video and the subs are easy to read. Keep it up cause a lot of us appreciate it. It's a great show you've decided to pick up. Thanks!
Zappster
2007-01-18, 14:04
Ha that was kinda weird when hearing that first piano teacher talk... ZORO! :heh:
Anyway this looks interesting, I particularly liked the hair washing scene (she feels like a queen getting pampered, he feels like a dog groomer). :D
Yeah, that was exactly my reaction after he uttered his first few lines :)
I liked the first ep. Must admit I was pretty hyped for it beforehand and it hasn't disappointed yet. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread (I think) the 24 minutes or so just flew by. Quite a few memorable and funny scenes in the first episode IMO. Really liked the ED too, OP less so. Looking forward to future episodes.
aeroshadow
2007-01-18, 15:40
I liked this, although I think the extreme similarity to H&C's art style is affecting me more than it should.
*shrugs*
Nodame is adorable.
I think its obvious whenever Nodame says any of her signature lines. Just listen carefully. =p
You would think that its obvious, but to people who are not familiar with Nodame don't truly grasp it until they are informed; whether from 'subtitles' or from other fans or whatever. Like I said, that question was just a out of curiosity. I also downloaded C1Anime's version out of curiosity. Trust me, there are people out there who don't/didn't know what she says. Obviously, this does not apply to people who are already a fan of Nodame.
Actually, I haven't read the manga or watched the live action version. =)
physics223
2007-01-18, 18:49
Yes, I translate Nodame for C1 and I directly translate from Japanese to English.
What series do you translate? I find that some C1 releases are left behind, but some like Nodame are subbed pretty fast (at least, for the first episode).
Actually, I haven't read the manga or watched the live action version. =)
It doesn't really matter, its not that important to me. Maybe, its more obvious than I had expected. I truly apologise for bringing it up.
I just got done watching episode 2 and all I will say is that its packed with tons of precious Nodame moments and Mine is finally introduced. Episode 3 will be even better because Masumi-chan will be introduced. :D
MrProphet
2007-01-19, 00:02
Oh, man, I don't think that I have ever laughed as hard during an anime episodes as I did during episode 2 of Nodame Cantabile.
Mine-kun's attemps at makeup, Nodame's eating habits, "This is what married life is like".... I was simply rolling on the floor, it was so hilarious. 8))))
Well, if ep 1 didn't hook me, 2 certainly has. This may well end up being my favourite series of this season. ^^; Nodame is just so awesome. As already said, her eating habits are quite amusing. :D
After the second episode, its become clear that i'm enjoying this just as much as the manga. The anime does a better job at displaying the 'over the top' scenes, and at the same time keeping the same feeling that i love from the manga. Also, when reading the manga, whenever there's a famous piece of music being played, i end up humming it in my head, though i believe it does more for the scene when actually being able to hear it.
Anyway, second episode was just as fun as the first. I always liked this part of the story for the role Saiko plays (she's so good :3). It was also good to hear Mine's electric violin at the start, though its a shame we won't hear it again. Next episode we'll see Masumi... that'll be fun.
Julius Firefocht
2007-01-19, 11:25
This is one of those sleeper hits of this season, the sort of title that does not display it's awesomeness until you actually give it a try. I am very glad that I took the effort to watch the show, because I truly enjoyed the first episode!
This Ayako Kawasumi/Seki Tomokazu pairing is working out remarkably well, as we found out from Fate/Stay Night, Kanon, and now Nodame Catabile. Looking forward to the 2nd episode!
歌詞間違っているかもです・・・直してみました(^^
五線譜の上追い越した日々
ちゃんと重ねココに響かせて
歌うように真っ直ぐに 歌の上を伸びてゆく
ステージの端のピアニストへ
今この目の前に開かれた世界
？？？？？ 新しいプレリュード
どうして どうして只の友達なの
Dragosmore
2007-01-19, 14:06
What series do you translate? I find that some C1 releases are left behind, but some like Nodame are subbed pretty fast (at least, for the first episode).
I'm only freelance translating for C1. This is my first and most likely last (for now) project with them.
歌詞間違っているかもです・・・直してみました(^^
五線譜の上追い越した日々
ちゃんと重ねココに響かせて
歌うように真っ直ぐに 歌の上を伸びてゆく
ステージの端のピアニストへ
今この目の前に開かれた世界
？？？？？ 新しいプレリュード
どうして どうして只の友達なの
うわ、どうもすみませんｗ
主題歌や挿入歌等の翻訳はあまり得意じゃないので間違いがいつも出てきてしまいます。直してくれてありがと うございます。助かりました。
Srin Tuar
2007-01-19, 19:22
wow, i havent commented on this show yet, nor read any of the previous comments,
But I had to stop by here and mention how cute episode 2 was.
Normally, I hate slovenly, can't clean or cook girls like nodame (fitting name) but the way she acts in episode two is so cute its impossible to despise her. She is terribly cute.
Well, i guess now im hooked and will follow this show :)
The way the staff handles the art in this anime does remind me of H & C in the coloring and the OP & ED style. The characters designs look pretty much like the manga style (from the few pages I've skimmed through). After watching 2 eps, I didn't find any of the moments funny to the point where I cracked a smile so laughing out loud is out of the question. (I remember laughing a lot when I was watching the drama though.) Something is missing. I feel that it's lacking the effective expressions that H & C possesses but then again H & C manga is really all about expressions (from what I've seen) and I know I shouldn't even compare the two. (Maybe it's not supposed to be that funny.)
In the beginning I was so looking forward to see the anime but now I think I've watched enough. Watching it makes me feel like I'm watching something inferior in another medium. If I didn't watch the drama I probably wouldn't be so harsh. The feeling is kind of similar to the time when I watched HYD live action after watching the anime. This time I adore the NC drama much more than the HYD anime so it's very hard for me to watch it without thinking back to the drama.
wow, i havent commented on this show yet, nor read any of the previous comments,
But I had to stop by here and mention how cute episode 2 was.
Normally, I hate slovenly, can't clean or cook girls like nodame (fitting name) but the way she acts in episode two is so cute its impossible to despise her. She is terribly cute.
Well, i guess now im hooked and will follow this show :)
Can't wait to see episode 2, I agree the can't clean/cook bit is rather uncute, but apart from that I already thought she was cute anyway. Love her "fishface" pianoplaying; guess that's why she said she was being compared to fish alot.
As for the OP/ED songs, like most I prefer the ED, but the OP isn't bad either. The piano scores and other little music bits (like the fart song :heh:) are well done too. Not really sure yet if I find the story interesting, but it's been funny and enjoyable enough so far.
Froth-Bite has released episode 1 of Nodame Cantabile as well. It'll be very interesting to see how that turns out. :heh:
(And no, I'm not affiliated with them :p)
I'm looking forward to episode 2 as well!
Ep 2 was a delight. It's a joy to hear what Ayako Kawasumi is doing with her role as Nodame, an energetic and idiosyncratic performance. The way she warbles the random brilliance of 'Gyabo! Umbrella!' nearly made me lose a mouthful of tea. Need the sub desperately for the details, but it's easy to chuckle along to Nodame's sneaky bento raid or her dribbling depression :p
Again the music is favourable; especially for the way it lends to Nodame's mood swings. Tchaikovsky's Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy and Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata put to great use in the funniest scenes.:)
Deathkillz
2007-01-20, 14:57
i think i broke my left lung laughing at ep 1...omg it was beautiful...where to start...
well by the end of the first ep it hit me...the whole theme reminded me of a mix between honey and clover and Bokura Ga Ita ~ and even the drawing style look liek it as well :D
the whole thing is unique...a student who is forced to be a pianist while wanting to be a conductor ~ he finally breaks is kicked from a really good piano teacher...
his background is also interesting...being in a plane accident he has a fear of travel so he thinks that he has no future left...
but what im seeing is that the future is right in front of his eyes in the form of nodame aka trash girl...
my god i havent laughed soo hard in ages XD this crazy chick with no self respect for higiene and the lack of brains is actually a hidden genius with the ability to learn music just by looking at the scores...but what makes her really cute is her oblivious attitude to everyday life...making Chiaki want to tear his hair out...
she is horrible at keeping her house and herself clean but also is rather dumb when it comes to whats right and whats wrong...that night...did anything really happen between the two? :D the "belt" part literally killed me XD
very few series has given me hyperventilation but this ep nearly stopped my breathing :heh:
is the plot im getting here is how chiaki is going to open up to a whole new world of his feelings...
/off to watch ep 2
i just watched episode 1. it's saber!!! i love her already! this now gets added to my must watch list!! and now i'm going to d-addicts to find the drama too...
...this crazy chick with no self respect for higiene and the lack of brains is actually a hidden genius with the ability to learn music just by looking at the scores...just wanted to note that she actually can't read music. she learns from hearing the songs played instead.
Sinestra
2007-01-20, 19:35
Really surprised me I finally got around to seeing the first episode. I really liked it the story is fun and somewhat original and for a change they show a slob of a girl instead of guy. I love music so more musical animes are up my ally i especially love how the girl has perfect pitch. this should be interesting. my fav part has to be the end where she thinks shes in love and hes trying to get away from her. classic looking forward to more
I really can't wait for the OST for this series. There's a beautiful version of Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 14 (aka the Moonlight Sonata) around ~12 mins in to episode 2. The OST would be worth buying for that track alone. ^^;
Mine is an interesting character, too. Not having read the manga or seen the drama I can only imagine what kind of a trio they could end up being.
I really can't wait for the OST for this series. There's a beautiful version of Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 14 (aka the Moonlight Sonata) around ~12 mins in to episode 2. The OST would be worth buying for that track alone. ^^;
Just so you know - those tracks probably won't appear on the Soundtrack. Reasons being pretty obvious, so its something you should keep in mind before getting all hyped up for it. :3
another fine episode, haven't laughed this hard for a while it hurts :p
cant get enough of Nodame
PEDOS_GRANDE
2007-01-20, 23:50
Just so you know - those tracks probably won't appear on the Soundtrack. Reasons being pretty obvious, so its something you should keep in mind before getting all hyped up for it. :3
Don't worry. If you hit up play asia for cdjapan, you'll see that there's a crapload of Classical music compilations branded as "Nodame Cantabile". I figured they are probably compilations of the pieces the characters play in the manga, but since they are in the manga they are bound to be in the anime as well. So there you have your anime ost, lol.
PEDOS_GRANDE
2007-01-20, 23:51
I'm only freelance translating for C1. This is my first and most likely last (for now) project with them.
うわ、どうもすみませんｗ
主題歌や挿入歌等の翻訳はあまり得意じゃないので間違いがいつも出てきてしまいます。直してくれてありがと うございます。助かりました。
We are not impressed by your moonranguage abirity!
Don't worry. If you hit up play asia for cdjapan, you'll see that there's a crapload of Classical music compilations branded as "Nodame Cantabile". I figured they are probably compilations of the pieces the characters play in the manga, but since they are in the manga they are bound to be in the anime as well. So there you have your anime ost, lol.
I didn't say it won't happen, i'm just a lil' shocked it has. Anyway, here's the link for people: Linky~ (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=ESCL-2935)
& please, no double posting in the future - its not allowed around here. :3
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-21, 03:32
Oh, Kawasumi Ayako! I thought she could do anything and it sounds like she can. Just great. The whole cast, so far, is hitting the right notes for me. Including Mine (Kawada Shinji). I loved the live-action drama, but Mine, too, seems just a little less over-the-top than there and more effective for me. In look and sound, I can take him more seriously. The pacing of the story is moving smoothly and quickly, without any wasted motion, but still feeling spacious.
The look of the characters continues to work so well for me. The way Ninomiya Tomoko first drew them is how they should look. One thing that was changed was the CD label when Chiaki was listening to Beethoven's Seventh Symphony at around 7:45. In the manga (v1p120), the label is "Londo(n)." In the anime, it's "Tomoko Grammophon," a play on Deutsche Grammophon using the mangaka's name.
As I mentioned before, I've made a page (http://hashihime.atspace.com/etc/nodame/nodame_charseiyuus.htm) with pics of the characters and their seiyuus.
There are several CDs associated with the drama, and I think the music is supposed to be by the same specially-recruited "Orchestra du Nodame". I've clicked through to the Japanese track listings for some of them from the cdjapan page (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/list_from_code_banner.html?key=404016), but I don't see the Moonlight Sonata. I feel sure they will milk the music for as many CDs as they can sell, though.
Started watching recently, mainly because of the pedigree behind it. Enjoying it thus far, as a total newcomer to the Nodame Cantabile story. Oddly enough, as Chiaki was shampooing Nodame's hair, it occured to me that it looked as though he was washing a pet dog, so it was to my amusement that Chiaki DID feel that way. I guess it goes to show how brilliant the anime has been in portraying the scenes. :D Good gravy, I was almost laughing to the point of tears at some of the scenes, such as the goo and the ants.
Cheers.
Deathkillz
2007-01-21, 04:21
ep2 ~ well it seems to me that Chiaki is secretly building up his own orchestra ~ now with Mine added to the mix and somewat under his command :heh:
tonnes of cracks and side splitting jokes ~ ahh i can get enough of nodame's sweet sweet antics ^__^
You would think that its obvious, but to people who are not familiar with Nodame don't truly grasp it until they are informed; whether from 'subtitles' or from other fans or whatever. Like I said, that question was just a out of curiosity. I also downloaded C1Anime's version out of curiosity. Trust me, there are people out there who don't/didn't know what she says. Obviously, this does not apply to people who are already a fan of Nodame.
I agree with Lunacy. I didn't read the manga nor watch the drama, so I didn't know that Nodame has "catchphrases". :heh: I thought they were mere "ugh" and "ack". I think it'll be cool if those were included in the subs, but it's up to C1Anime~ :D
Well, [Froth-Bite] does include those catchphrases in their subtitles. So that's an option for those who want it. :)
Cheers.
Well, I'm watching Kanon and seen Rozen Maiden so that may also be why I picked up on those catchphrases. I don't need to see them in the fansubs. Prob won't be in a R1 release either, so why get spoiled now?
But Skane did say we have a choice now. Catchphrase and catchphrase-less. :)
White Manju Bun
2007-01-21, 20:41
Oh thanks for the info Skane, I wasnt sure on the catch phrases either. Omg this is so funny, Nodame eating had me rolling on the floor!
I agree with Lunacy. I didn't read the manga nor watch the drama, so I didn't know that Nodame has "catchphrases". :heh: I thought they were mere "ugh" and "ack". I think it'll be cool if those were included in the subs, but it's up to C1Anime~ :D
I brought that up not to be rude or picky, but for the sake of future Nodame fans. Again, I am truly greatful to every fansub group out there for their translation work, but its amazing how many people have guessed wrong on her catchphrases. (Example: "mukya" as "pukya" or "ugya".. which is close and more fascinating than the actual catchphrase, but its wrong and I don't have the heart to correct them). I do apologise if it came across as being nitpicky. I was just curious is all. If it does get licensed I would actually expect the same thing.
About the soundtrack... there are many soundtracks already available for both the manga and drama: 100 Best Collection, Nodame Orchestra, character CDs, CD selection vol. 1 & vol. 2 etc. Now one for the anime. :heh: They are totally milking it as expected.
So which one is the best? The anime version looked like it had the drama stuff in it too.
physics223
2007-01-22, 04:31
I have got to burn all these extraneous and done-with anime series. Just wait for me, and I'll get to watch these sumptuous episodes ... :)
I found the second episode to be rushed compared to how the first was done - also missing out a few parts from the manga.. they weren't needed for the story, though they're in the story for a reason. Ah well - i'm still loving the anime version. Like i said before, actually being able to hear the music works.. though i've always enjoyed humming it in my head when reading the manga. :3
Sorrow-K
2007-01-22, 07:46
That's why I prefer not reading a manga before going into an anime. It lets me minimize expectations so I don't find myself constantly comparing to the source.
Ep 2.
That's it. This show has completely won me over. And the reason, surprisingly enough, is the comedy. The jokes work perfectly in this episode, and I constantly found myself laughing (as the old cliche goes) out loud. I'm starting to think more and more that this is how you build likeable characters in a show like this: you set a foundation with good comedy. After that the rest is trivial... (well, in whatever dream land I live in).
Chiaki is tsundere...
That's why I prefer not reading a manga before going into an anime. It lets me minimize expectations so I don't find myself constantly comparing to the source.
Seeing as though i've been reading the manga over a year now.. i can't really help it. :3
Chiaki is tsundere...
Thats where the route of his wonderfulness begins.
Kinny Riddle
2007-01-22, 10:07
Ah, it's been a while since I've had so much fun watching a serious drama series since Honey and Clover. Not surprising that it's the same people behind H&C for this production, they even put the preview scenes in the credits.
I've been aware of Kawasumi Ayako's talents for some time now, as the series I've watched so far had characters played by her, but so far not in a lead role (I didn't bother watching Fate/stay night). Anyway, I think I'm in love with her voice now. ~Gyabo~ :love:
Not much to say about the story as I've neither seen the manga or the live action series, but if I can enjoy H&C, I can certainly enjoy this.
^ You definitely will. No doubt about it. I'm enjoying every single moment of this series, especially the music pieces. They're just wonderful. Ohh and.. the animated version is as good as the live action, vice versa. But I'm still trying to get used to the VA of Nodame though Ayako did a splendid job in bringing out her character. Whenever it's Gyabo! I'm reminded of Ueno Juri's voice. XD
Burner of Anime
2007-01-22, 10:56
ANyone noticed the Wedding March playing in the background of ep2? Was playing when Nodame mentioned what it is to have a married life :heh:
kauldron26
2007-01-22, 11:36
LMFAO... funniest lines... pathetic Nodame: "Are you hot for me????" lmao... Serious Nodame: " You play like ur jacking off" LMAO... LMAO...
Haha, episode 2 was great aswell! For one thing I really liked all the parallels to the first episode:
- Mine's "Run of the mill. Run of the mill. Everyone's run of the mill" vs Chiaki's "Sucks. Sucks. Everyone sucks." in the first ep.
- Chiaki's "I hate losers" was a great way to get back at Saiko for her "I hate losers" when the situation was reversed.
- Chiaki saying "Play freely" to Mine instead of Nodame.
- Chiaki thinking "I'll keep up" referring to Mine instead of Nodame this time.
Apart from that there were alot of funny moments, Nodame's reactions and exclamations in particular. Great performance by the VA, that screamy voice when Nodame is excited cracks me up. After she tripped, when she was eating Chiaki's food, when she was eating at the chinese place, great stuff. My favorite moment was probably when she was sick but said she might get better if her prince would give her a kiss, Nodame pursing her lips like that made me laugh out loud.
Also had one thought about the name "Nodame", it seems Chiaki for one has trouble refusing her whims such as coming over for dinner, he can't say "dame" to her, so "no dame". Perhaps she has that effect on everyone who knows her.
Anyway, this is definately one of my current favorites, highly anticipating the next episode yet again. Gyabo!
Yup, was starting to wonder what I'd watch with Asatte and Otome winding down, but this looks like a real winner!
False Dawn
2007-01-22, 17:04
Also had one thought about the name "Nodame", it seems Chiaki for one has trouble refusing her whims such as coming over for dinner, he can't say "dame" to her, so "no dame". Perhaps she has that effect on everyone who knows her.
Ha! Sorry to correct you, but she's called Nodame because it's a contraction of Noda Megumi (her full name) :D
I also have to agree with Lunacy. Despite being a staunch opposer of subbing sounds, Nodame is different in the way that the sounds she makes are unique to her character and therefore merit translation (or rather, subbing instead of translation as I doubt there's an "english" way of saying those words).
Nodame wouldn't be half as interesting as she is if not for her persistent shouts of "Dokya!" and "Gyabo!" - or think of it another way... it's the same as Ayu in Kanon, whose "uguu" has now received some form of cult status amongst fans :D
just wanted to note that she actually can't read music. she learns from hearing the songs played instead.
Just noticed someone said this a page or two back - that's not entirely true. There are some pieces later in the series that she learns by moving her fingers along her score as if it were a piano, so I think she can probably read music (in fact, she wouldn't have been able to play the first few bars of Mozart's Klaviersonata in the first episode if she couldn't read music...)
Ha! Sorry to correct you, but she's called Nodame because it's a contraction of Noda Megumi (her full name) :D
I already knew that, I was just conveying a thought I had that happens to apply to her name. Besides, we don't really know the real origin of that callname. Perhaps it was originally a nickname given to her which incoorporates her full name aswell as her behavior.
About the music reading thing: she *can* read music, just not very good since she's used to learning her music by ear.
Deathkillz
2007-01-22, 18:56
LMFAO... funniest lines... pathetic Nodame: "Are you hot for me????" lmao... Serious Nodame: " You play like ur jacking off" LMAO... LMAO...
LOL that line killed me XD but yea her problem with playing the piano while making her "face" would be annoying to Chiaki especially when he finds her annoying in the first place ~ but lol i find that kinda cute ^__^
I hope you mean that because of the speed of our release, because that's quite an insult. The translation is correct.
never mind, i won't start any flames... I just read on 2ch... maybe it's better if you read on it by yourself
Slice of Life
2007-01-23, 07:29
I really like the show. A real surprise actually because I would have thought it would be more about Chiaki and his dream instead of the funny Chiaki/Nodame interaction I've got. I just hope it stays that way.
I've noted that Nodame has made it from a dog to a cat in Chiaki's eyes. Promotion or demotion? :)
I've noted that Nodame has made it from a dog to a cat in Chiaki's eyes. Promotion or demotion? :)
Well, dogs are classed as mans best friend.. :3
Deathkillz
2007-01-23, 11:16
well i say its a demotion lolol ~ now chiaki just thinks that nodame is a backstabber going off to whoever gives her food :heh:
i just cant get rid of the feeling that everytime i hear nodame's scream(?) she is either 1) eating or 2) doing something out of this world ^__^
aliensporebomb
2007-01-23, 19:58
Fantastic. I watched 1 and 2 in rapid succession and it is an instant hit with me.
I'm a musician and have played with both instinctives (probably
closer to my own style) and schooled people and there are valid
approaches to both.
Great - there's a little bit of the wild feral girl child who will go through a
sort of finishing school approach with Chiaki at the helm, great.
PEDOS_GRANDE
2007-01-23, 20:55
And as for the nickname "Nodame," I'd like someone who really knows to be more specific than just "of course you know what that means," but I think the idea is right, that people are always telling her "da-me," which means "no," or "bad," or "don't do that," or "fouled up."
ha! i always wondered what that meant! Now I get it, lol. Man, you should t/l or something heh
pagan poor
2007-01-23, 22:28
Enjoying the anime immensely, even though I know how music school types feel about "sloppy, play by ear" musicians like myself, who take a while in reading sheet music. :)
chibi_star1
2007-01-24, 04:52
just saw episode 2 and i just can't stop laughing!!! nodame is just awesome!! i give this series a ten out of ten at this point!
aliensporebomb
2007-01-24, 09:41
I know this series is good when I keep watching the two episodes that
C1 subbed again and again - many good things about it.
My wife is a bit of a neat freak so I had to show her the section where
Chiaki recoils in fear at seeing the garbage piling up with juice leaking
and ants being attracted and the bit with the fruit flies flying out of the
empty can of fruit juice. She liked the section where she kept trying to
return Chiaki's belt very loudly and publicly.
In fact, Nodame reminds us a bit of a friend of ours so it's doubly
funny in some ways.
I can't wait for episode 3.
Jewelray
2007-01-24, 11:23
I liked the first two eps of the anime so much that I decided to watch the drama. It is so amazingly funny I'm practically falling off my chair at some points.
Nodame in the drama reminds me of a younger version of one of my Japanese professors and it's kind of scary. She has that same quirky attitude as Nodame (and looks really similar too...) She even makes weird catch-phrase like noises...
Sinestra
2007-01-24, 17:32
Just caught episode 2 Im amazed at how well its written. The characters are easily likable and the humor is pretty damn good. Needless to say i will be following this one closely. Thats 2 series with musical themes that have got me hooked this season Though Nodame Cantabile is way more outrages than La Corda D'Oro ~primo passo i see the similarities in them. Nodame Cantabile animation is a lot sharper than i thought it would be.
I also like the idea of the show using real pieces of classical music from composers like Chopin and Mozart Instead of making scores up but the improve in the show is quite nice too. I think with this episode the 3 main characters have been introduced i cant remember his name the guy who played the violin.
I've already watched episode 2 twice. It's been all fun :)
Watching the second time I tried not to read the subs in front of me, but instead to listen(and watch) only and then this anime feels even better. There were also some things I didn't notice beforehand as I was too concentrated on reading :p Some classical pieces throughout some scenes have been rearranged as to transport them and it just adds to the atmosphere.
Just as Sinestra said, instead of making up new scores they use classical music and that's a big plus imho.
BTW, does anyone know the title of the piece playing in the scene where Mine and Nodame are in her apartement and she is all "I miss senpai", "I miss his food"...because I definitely know it, but the name won't pop up in my head :sad:
Another thing I noticed...
At the beginning of the episode when the two girls comment on Mine from the window above, you can see Nodame tiptoe forth and then back behind them. It took some seconds and then I was like :thinker: : seems like she was stealing (their?)lunches :D
I'm looking forward episode 3 :)
I hadn't actually noticed that myself, but found out about it from a review of episode 2. She stole the onigiri that she dropped later on when she tripped over the power cord. :heh:
BTW, does anyone know the title of the piece playing in the scene where Mine and Nodame are in her apartement and she is all "I miss senpai", "I miss his food"...because I definitely know it, but the name won't pop up in my head :sad:
That's Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 14, aka the Moonlight Sonata. I referred to it in some earlier posts. It's a very interesting rendition of it. ^^ Really hope it turns up on an OST album.
BTW, does anyone know the title of the piece playing in the scene where Mine and Nodame are in her apartement and she is all "I miss senpai", "I miss his food"...because I definitely know it, but the name won't pop up in my head :sad:
Well, it's Ludwig van Bethoven
Sonata no.14 in C-sharp minor Op.27 No.2 - commonly known as the "Moonlight" Sonata :)
kira_lacusXX
2007-01-24, 21:29
Just gotta say I love the music in this anime, especially that ED by Crystal Kay, love her :) Too bad I still have to wait like a month till it comes out :( Also, Nodame is so funny, trying to seduce Chiaki like that xD, she looked nice in a dress though :) make-up...eeehh not so much, well not like the way it was on her :D
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-25, 00:28
....Thats 2 series with musical themes that have got me hooked this season Though Nodame Cantabile is way more outrages than La Corda D'Oro ~primo passo i see the similarities in them....The music is the only similarity I see, but I like Corda, too. I think it deserves more attention than it's getting. Nodame is in a higher class altogether, but Corda is more than just a shoujo reverse harem in a music school. The characters are somewhat interesting, and the heroine is good. And so is the music, although there's much less of it than here.
BadAssbr
2007-01-25, 06:10
The music is the only similarity I see, but I like Corda, too. I think it deserves more attention than it's getting. Nodame is in a higher class altogether, but Corda is more than just a shoujo reverse harem in a music school. The characters are somewhat interesting, and the heroine is good. And so is the music, although there's much less of it than here.
My thoughts exactly. Nodame and corda are the 2 music themes series that I'm watching . I like Nodame much more , and I don't know if you guys got this feeling too , but when I first saw corda I thought the feeling the anime pass is like prince of tennis. (ok take the tennis part out and ad music instruments LOL)
The thing I like about Corda too is the "One point classic" that apears after the show! Now I know what is a canon! :D
stop talking about that other inferior music anime!
nodame pawns all music themed series!
and now i will go to sleep and dream about having a wife like nodame...
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wtf is that smell?
honey you can't put tuna fish down the drain in the bathroom where there is no disposal!!! \
now it smells like f(*#ing a$$ in here!!!
zzz
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Hikari no Clover
2007-01-25, 08:17
i've seen the drama version, it was really funny~~
i think i would try to see the anime,
how long would the anime series be?
23 episodes, apparently. Hope it can keep up this standard for that long. Edit: made a little sig just because of this show. Really nuts about it, watched the first 2 episodes several times (and rewatched my favorite moments even more) just like some others have. :D
Sinestra
2007-01-25, 13:46
The music is the only similarity I see, but I like Corda, too. I think it deserves more attention than it's getting. Nodame is in a higher class altogether, but Corda is more than just a shoujo reverse harem in a music school. The characters are somewhat interesting, and the heroine is good. And so is the music, although there's much less of it than here.
I like Corda as well because the characters are interesting but i like comedy more than i like reverse Shojo school harems. Both are good but i will have to agree that Nodame is in a class of its own. If this the popularity keeps up hopefully it will get moved out of fansubbed and moved to current series discussions
aliensporebomb
2007-01-25, 14:53
Day 3 and I'm still watching 1 and 2 over and over. I'm crazed for it.
It makes me wonder - how on earth did Nodame get into the school?
I'll spoiler the rest of my thoughts and say "only read if you've
watched 1 and 2":
If she's like this her parents must be equally spectacularly strange -
did she get in on scholarship? If she's just naturally instinctive on
piano all she has to do is hear something once and she's got it - a
really interesting dilemma because the currency of the classical
music world is sheet music on paper. I can see where Chiaki will
be of help here. I had the same problem until I was forced into
a musical situation where I had to use scores every time and
could read enough to be serviceable.
Ah, Nodame - you steal my heart. Stealing food and equally odd
behavior (welcome to my garbage apartment!) makes me wonder
if Chiaki will be able to help her improve and normalize - maybe
music has been her obsession for so long that everything else
quite literally fell by the wayside except music, sleeping and
eating. She even said to Chiaki that she never felt love for
anyone before so that makes sense why she would neglect
areas others would deem essential.
Ah, Chiaki - you're trapped like a fly in a web: He's torn between
calling her an eyesore and and an idiot and then saying she's really
special and has a unique talent - I think he's been of such a high
musical standard for so long he doesn't realize he's just judging
everyone on face value. I think he's protesting too much and
feels something he doesn't want to admit. Feeling that emotional
tingle while playing music is indeed rare and if you can do it on
command with someone you latch on to that person and don't
let go. I'm serious.
He even had to reconsider his opinions of Mine. Maybe some of
Nodame's free spirit will rub off on him and get him to lighten up
a bit. I see some signs of it already. Maybe.
I also want to see what precipitated the breakup between
Chiaki and his ex - could be very interesting I think. And the
rivalry between her and Nodame could be hilarious if it was
handled the right way.
Okay. All done thinking.
This season has had a lot of very good shows - the 2006
remake of Kanon, Assate no Houkou, Welcome to the NHK,
Honey and Clover II but I was very surprised that this
new show basically set up shop in my brain and wouldn't
leave. Fantastic.
dxgarten
2007-01-25, 17:06
Episode 03 screencaps and summary (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/nodamecantabile_ep03.html)
I think this is a lot funnier than the first two episodes. Masumi-chan is really funny and his competition with Nodame is amusing to say the least.
MrProphet
2007-01-25, 19:20
Episode 3 was fantastic. I loved the jazzy track they've had during the jamming session.
It had, most certainly, the best art direction of all three episodes so far, and I would be as bold as to say that we'll probably not see another as good as that in this series. The background art was gorgeously low-key, genga had very steady and confident line work and they've added a very interesting "glossy" effect to some of the art that contrasted nicely with the subdued colors that are usually predominant in this show.
This, my friends, is simply gorgeous and unlike anything I've seen in TV anime in recent time.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2683/snapshot20070126023202bzp8.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20070126023202bzp8.jpg)
And Masumi-chan was GOLD. 8))
This, my friends, is simply gorgeous and unlike anything I've seen in TV anime in recent time.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2683/snapshot20070126023202bzp8.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20070126023202bzp8.jpg)
Heh, i have to admit that i'm a lil' shocked. I was planning to talk about that scene myself - that is indeed a beautiful piece of art that you'll never find in the manga. Koniw i should have known good old MrProphet would have also spotted this out. :3
& yes, i'm glad to see that Masumi's adaption from the manga isn't bad at all. He can be such a wonderful character when he wants to be.
Im glad Fujita Yoshinori is doing a great job as Masumi-chan. Although, when I first heard Masumi's voice, I couldn't help picturing Kaoru (Ouran Host Club) but that slowly faded away. Im also glad that we finally got to taste a little of how the creators will animate orchestra scenes. I think they will do a hell of a job.
I don't own any of the Nodame soundtracks, but Im really wanting it for "Nodame Rhapsody". I love this cheery jazz piece with violin, piano and percussion found at the end of episode 3. I probably have watched that scene 10 times just to hear it.
Next episode, Milch. This series will never find peace and quiet with him and Masumi-chan around.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-26, 02:05
Episode 3: I guess I have to say I wasn't as taken with Masumi as other people. Better than the dorama, anyway. Mine (Kawada Shinji (http://hashihime.atspace.com/Hashi_seiyuusC.html#hiranaya)) is the one who impresses me, being so much more solid than in the dorama.
But if Masumi was gold, then Nodame was platinum. Her "yurusemasen" ('unforgiveable') when her food was stolen was intense. When Masumi said it later, it was good, but just didn't have her strength. The ripped-from-the-belly way Kawasumi-san says some things sounds dangerous for the voice, but gets right through to me. This kind of exaggerated expression really works in anime, whereas it would seem too much in live-action.
I noticed the nice H&C-like outdoor backgrounds, but didn't catch the scene MrProphet and Shiroth did (17:48). Wow. I notice from ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7010)that about half the background art staff was involved in Asatte no Houkou, which also had some great outdoor backgrounds. The on-screen credits were to "Kobayashi Production," which includes some of the names from ANN, and there was a separate credit to Imai Osamu (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15082), who is one of the people that worked on Asatte and H&C, as well as Karin (also watercolor backgrounds). Kobayashi Shichirou (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=251) (age 74, head of Kobayashi Production), who is art director for this series, was also art director on Asatte and Simoun (more watercolor backgrounds), but not on H&C. He also did YKK, Windy Tales, Utena, etc., etc.
And this episode was hilarious...and then touching. Seeing Chiaki's devotion to excellence at the end was a strong moment. Once again, somehow this version goes the dorama one better. Chiaki's character design and animation, and Seki Tomokazu's expression are really working.
Deathkillz
2007-01-26, 02:18
lol Masumi ~
she is just gold! XD have to say tho that the first time she appeared on screen i thought it was a guy...then a trans...then i made a connection for her to be a real girl when they use the "girl" noun for her :heh:
poor nodame...she was terrorized for more than half of the ep by Masumi ~ funny as it wereto see nodame's high screeches of pain digged deeply into my heart and ears ~
but at the end i guess chiaki gain yet another new member to his non exsistant orchestra :)
Deathkillz: Masumi is male.
Srin Tuar
2007-01-26, 09:02
Deathkillz: Masumi is male.
Male looking body
Male looking face
Mustache
Nodame and him even broached the topic of what he is
Hmmmm, should be an easy call.
Heh, i'm not sure how anyone could even think he was female. ^^;
& i posted that statement because Deathkillz thought he was female~
Deathkillz
2007-01-26, 12:00
Deathkillz: Masumi is male.
hahaha! i thought so...tbh i was 50/50 on this one ~ on one side...he has all the features of a male...but on the flip side he seems to have breasts and also seems to be spoken to as a girl ~ but i took a gamble on guessing...pff would have been more interesting to have a girl with a Mustache imo :p
MrProphet
2007-01-26, 12:34
I assume that they've called him "kanojo" (her) only because of his okama-like mannerisms.
You know... a "prima donna" is also used to refer to females (it literally means "first lady"), yet it's quite common to call men "prima donna" as well, for their attitudes. Masumi is like that.
ep3 lol at Nodame being cursed by Masumi.
Best scene though its when Nodame confessed eating Maki(?)'s meat bun just before they found out masumi was the culprit :heh: priceless
Time to rewatch the first 2 episodes ;)
aliensporebomb
2007-01-26, 17:57
The raw of episode 3: priceless - more hilarity and an unexpected joining of forces.
I absolutely LOVE this show!
Tiberium Wolf
2007-01-27, 18:37
OMG! I didn't know what these series was about except that it was about music. I watched today the 2 eps and... oh my! It's honey & clover successor!
Shinndou
2007-01-27, 19:54
I assume that they've called him "kanojo" (her) only because of his okama-like mannerisms.
You know... a "prima donna" is also used to refer to females (it literally means "first lady"), yet it's quite common to call men "prima donna" as well, for their attitudes. Masumi is like that.
Not exactly right. "Prima donna" isn't really used to indicate okama-like behaviours by a man, but it's specifically used to denote a person's egocentrism and protagonism. The expression "prima donna" (which is italian by the way, in case some people didn't know) derives from the character of the main female protagonist of an opera/play, which is usually performed by a woman with a diva-like attitude who thinks very highly of herself. That's the origin of the term, but nowadays in italian society it's often used on both genders to indicate a person's attitude in a working group or in a group of people (someone who thinks highly of himself/herself, who thinks he/she should be the first and most important one of the group and so on). You get the idea. :)
MrProphet
2007-01-27, 20:17
Did I equate okama with prima donna-like behaviour? No, I did not.
I think it was clearly understood that it was just an example of a similar transformed gender attribution.
Shinndou
2007-01-27, 20:44
My bad then, I misinterpreted your post.
MrProphet
2007-01-27, 20:55
No problem.
BTW, how long is the manga? And how much material (in percents?) would they be able to fit into 23 episodes? Anyone wants to make an estimate?
Shinndou
2007-01-27, 21:03
I haven't read the manga yet, but I recall reading somewhere that the anime won't probably cover all of the volumes and should stop at some point, most likely because the manga is still ongoing. Maybe the producers might consider making a second season just like they did with Honey & Clover.
Um, yeah. The manga is like up to volume 16 and I would hate to see them try to pack everything in one season. Its going about the same pace as the drama, so Im guessing it will end where the drama ended; although, I can't speak for the later episodes since we are only at episode 3 and I haven't finished watching the drama. I definitely would like to see them cover the later arc found in the manga, though - whether by second season or whatever.
is the drama an hour or a half hour?
Jewelray
2007-01-27, 23:07
is the drama an hour or a half hour?
The drama episodes are an hour.
Drytchnath
2007-01-28, 07:47
Quick question: Are the Frothbite subs lower quality due to the lower file size? Or are they just more size efficient encodes?
Quick question: Are the Frothbite subs lower quality due to the lower file size? Or are they just more size efficient encodes?
The latter.
Cheers.
aliensporebomb
2007-01-29, 17:26
I actually like the way both groups are subbing the series - if you watch each
you get a slightly different viewpoint on the same story.
Tiberium Wolf was right, partly, that it had a Honey and Clover feel - primarily
due to the timing of comedic bits, artistic decisions on reactions to things
(big eyes, strangely shaped mouths at times, etc.) and the pure vocal talent
of the entire crew - I'm just digging this.
I imagine that even Umino Chika would like this series - it has a little bit
of the quality that H&C has on everyday situations and the visual arts
(the school in H&C was an arts college) and the musical arts (Nodame
Cantabile being set at a music college) really they're kind of similar in
terms of young creative people trying to find their way thru life and school.
after only two (three including raws) episodes, nodame cantabile has established itself as an adroit combination of comedy, drama, romance, and, of course, classical music. i look forward to the development of the relationship between chiaki and nodame.
physics223
2007-01-30, 14:48
Noitamina is GOD. That is all.
Drytchnath
2007-01-30, 16:04
I actually like the way both groups are subbing the series - if you watch each
you get a slightly different viewpoint on the same story.
Tiberium Wolf was right, partly, that it had a Honey and Clover feel - primarily
due to the timing of comedic bits, artistic decisions on reactions to things
(big eyes, strangely shaped mouths at times, etc.) and the pure vocal talent
of the entire crew - I'm just digging this.
I imagine that even Umino Chika would like this series - it has a little bit
of the quality that H&C has on everyday situations and the visual arts
(the school in H&C was an arts college) and the musical arts (Nodame
Cantabile being set at a music college) really they're kind of similar in
terms of young creative people trying to find their way thru life and school.
The main reason i asked is that im running low on my anime HDD's available space :)
Starting to suffer from withdrawal symptoms here... Rewatching the first 2 eps is reaching its limits, I need my Nodame Cantabile fix, fast! :D
I was twitiching yesterday. :D Try watching Otogi Jushi Akazukin to pass the time. It's fun! :heh:
Actually I just started watching the Aria series which has some of that nice, slow slice of life feeling to it also. Though I've also had to add Canvas 2 to my list due to a discussion going on in the Tokimeki Memorial topic.
Lets see, then I'm also waiting on the final sub for Asatte, the next sub of Kanon 2006, the next sub of Nana, and of course the next episode of this one.
As I've said elsewhere, I sometimes wonder why I bother trying to have a life outside of anime :D
Masumi was bit too gay for my taste :rolleyes:. Maybe that's sign that I'm not gay :heh:.
So much to follow so it's not first in my list to watch. Though Nodame herself is quite interesting person.
aliensporebomb
2007-01-31, 23:32
So when does this show air in Japan - I'm really curious if it's occupying the slot
where Honey and Clover formerly resided or is it airing at a more sane hour?
Omniscient
2007-01-31, 23:37
So when does this show air in Japan - I'm really curious if it's occupying the slot
where Honey and Clover formerly resided or is it airing at a more sane hour?
It's airing in the Noitamina slot on Fuji TV, which is the same time slot H&C and H&C II aired: Thursday nights at 24:45 JST (aka. Friday morning at 12:45AM JST).
Ahh, Masumi-chan is amusing. And my prediction is coming true. Very impressed with the story so far. Also pleased to hear the piece of music I liked in ep2 re-used in ep3, as it means it's more likely to make it on to an OST if it's not a once-off. =p
dxgarten
2007-02-01, 16:27
Episode 04 screencaps and summary (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/nodamecantabile_ep04.html)
The animators decided to cut out the entire Kotatsu story out of the episode. However, what remains are still enjoyable. This week's episode introduces a pervert foreigner called Strezemann.
Argh you're getting a head start on me and my fellow subwatchers! :D
Just curious, are there any of those still images in episode 3 (thought Masumi might have one here) & 4 like those in my current signature? I suppose it will be a while before there is one with Chiaki conducting, that would go the best with the Nodame still image. For now, mr. Viera will have to do. ;)
dxgarten
2007-02-01, 22:13
Argh you're getting a head start on me and my fellow subwatchers! :D
Just curious, are there any of those still images in episode 3 (thought Masumi might have one here) & 4 like those in my current signature? I suppose it will be a while before there is one with Chiaki conducting, that would go the best with the Nodame still image. For now, mr. Viera will have to do. ;)
Unfortunately I am not sure if Mine or Masumi ever gets one of the images you have on your signature. IIRC, they haven't got one yet.
Episode 4 was a blast, just like the last one. I am truly glad to see Milch the way he was presented in the manga; I couldn't stand the way he was presented in the drama, with a fake wig and all - although, I did like his accent (I think Milch's accent is good in the anime, too). All I can say is Chiaki is in for a great time with him around, and for us, the viewers as well.
Its getting so close to one of my favorite Nodame moments: since I can't spoil it, all I will say is "pianica". Gyabo! I can't wait.
PS - Ayako Kawasumi's fake accent was so cute in episode 4.
Srin Tuar
2007-02-02, 08:01
Episode 4 was a blast, just like the last one. I am truly glad to see Milch the way he was presented in the manga; I couldn't stand the way he was presented in the drama, with a fake wig and all - although, I did like his accent (I think Milch's accent is good in the anime, too). All I can say is Chiaki is in for a great time with him around, and for us, the viewers as well.
Its getting so close to one of my favorite Nodame moments: since I can't spoil it, all I will say is "pianica". Gyabo! I can't wait.
PS - Ayako Kawasumi's fake accent was so cute in episode 4.
I wonder, did the drama version use a foreign actor? (somehow i doubt it but...)
The voice actor doing him in the anime was probably native Japanese, but I have to agree it was one of the best fake foreigner accents Ive ever heard in a show. (most are simply so grating an unforeign as to be intorlerable)
Storywise, I love the way he is flexing his "権力", hehe, what a bastard. I do not want to see nodame kiss him though.
The actor who played Milch in the drama is Naoto Takenaka (http://www.jdorama.com/artiste.828.htm). His accent was really good in Nodame that I would have questioned the same thing if I hadn't seen him in Water Boys. :p
As for the voice actor playing Milch in the anime, Im not too familiar with him.
Deathkillz
2007-02-02, 11:26
ep 4 was just LOL ~
Strezemann the perverted jiji getting kicked out of chiaki's house then seeing nodame deprived of her "bed time" fun killed me XD
but the old guy needs to learn some self respect O.o hes a love bug haha...a cliffhanger end but imo hes sensible enough to stop the kiss himself however hard he wanted it ;)
I was wondering...
Did she really kiss him in the manga? Yuck!!!!! Chiaki owes her big time for something like that. That guy should get kicked in the balls for sexual harrassment imo. :upset:
Unfortunately I am not sure if Mine or Masumi ever gets one of the images you have on your signature. IIRC, they haven't got one yet.
Mine already has one (in ep2 along with Nodame's), so I was kinda expecting these to become a trend, where all relevant musicians (and Chiaki conducting like Viera) get shown in this fashion at some point. But not for now I guess, perhaps Masumi and others will get portrayed like that later on.
I'm not happy at all that the Kotatsu chapter was completely missed from the series. It could be that they'll add it later on in the future, or add it to a DVD (just so you know, the chapter did appear in the TV drama). Its true that it doesn't move forward to the plot of the story - though i believe its the chapter with the best laughs, so i would have loved to have seen it animated.
Ah well, episode 04 was still pretty awesome. Strezemann was fun, and he's still my hero (well, most of the characters are from this series :3).
And... episode 3 is out (subbed!) bit of a delay but it's worth it for this show. <3 As I already said a few days ago, it's a good ep. The story is progressing nicely. Though it is a little different to the drama (which I have recently started watching.) I think the anime is better in some regards.
Deathkillz
2007-02-04, 11:49
I was wondering...
Did she really kiss him in the manga? Yuck!!!!! Chiaki owes her big time for something like that. That guy should get kicked in the balls for sexual harrassment imo. :upset:
naw im sure they would have more decency to make him back off before totally making him into someone who i want to kill ;)
Salvation at last! Episode 3 was alot of fun again, although personally I didn't care too much for Masumi's mannerisms. One of my favorite moments this time was when Nodame proclaimed she can't promise that she won't steal another meat bun, hilarious! "No-dummy" was pretty good too. :heh:
What a godly show. I really want to go out on a limb here and say that this will be the best series of 2007. Everything about this show feels so familiar yet refreshing. I love the puns that they use in here, but unfortunately that's probably lost on most viewers. :( I think I'm gonna go into withdrawal pretty badly with this series. My only concern is that they might go down the "Chiaki's career" path and no "Chiaki and Nodame romance" path.
well, they can't leave the Chiaki+Nodame part out as the series is actually titles, "Nodame Cantabile" and not "Chiaki-sensei" or "Chiaki-sama" or "The Magical Career of Chiaki" or anything like that.
it's one of those itneresting shows like Suzumiya Haruhi that has the title of a character's name, only that title character is not actually the main character of the show.
i think that makes it pretty clear that Nodame is the key to all of Chiaki's problems.
having said that, it is interesting that it appears as though each episode will add a new musician to Chiaki's ensemble until Chiaki has a fulle orchestra to be able to play his symphonies.
i love how every girl on campus is in love with Chiaki, not just the crazy ones. and they've made it pretty clear that it's based on talent. that's what makes this series so interesting to me. it's about a young man who is clearly far more talented than any of his peers, who everyone around him admires and adores, but who has such a severe crisis of confidence in himself that he no longer believes in his own abilities.
that's where the title character comes in. i believe Nodame will be the key to helping Chiaki believe in himself again so that he may go out into the world and realize his dreams.
and please no spoilers from the manga or drama. i don't want to know what happens there. i''m enjoying the series too much to spoil myself with those. :)
btw, did Chiaki, Mine or Nodame every realize that Masumi was a girl? or do they still think she's a guy? ("scraggly" in the tl i watched... lol)
also, i'm sure someone has probably posted this already, but i thought just in case, i'd add it. it's the wiki definition of "Cantabile." I put the wiki to save time. I've studied a lot of music and this is a fairly goood genereal definition. if anyo music students/musicians want to add anything, feel free. Maybe we should edit this definition into the first post in the thread.
Cantabile is a musical term meaning literally "singable" or "songlike" (Italian). It has several meanings in different contexts. In instrumental music, it indicates a particular style of playing designed to imitate the human voice. For 18th century composers, the term is often used synonymously with "cantando" ("singing"), and indicates a measured tempo and flexible, legato playing. For later composers, particularly in piano music, cantabile indicates the drawing out of one particular musical line against the accompaniment (compare counterpoint).
In opera, cantabile is used as a noun to mean the first half of a double aria, followed by a cabaletta. The cantabile movement would be slower and more free-form to contrast with the structured and generally faster cabaletta. Louis Spohr subtitled his violin concerto No. 8 "in moda d'una scena cantata", "in the manner of a sung [operatic] scene"; opera arias exerted a strong influence on the "singable" cantabile melodic line in Romantic writing for stringed instruments.
MrProphet
2007-02-04, 21:45
btw, did Chiaki, Mine or Nodame every realize that Masumi was a girl? or do they still think she's a guy? ("scraggly" in the tl i watched... lol)
Um... Masumi IS a man, you know. He is not female. He is just gay.
Anyone know when the OP/ED and OST are coming out?
Anyone know when the OP/ED and OST are coming out?
I posted the information a while back, though i'll do it again...
OP Single: 21st of February.
ED Single: 28th of February.
OST: There's a sound collection to be released on the 21st of February (same day as the OP single), though the actually soundtrack to the series is released on the 21st of March.
I posted the information a while back, though i'll do it again...
OP Single: 21st of February.
ED Single: 28th of February.
OST: There's a sound collection to be released on the 21st of February (same day as the OP single), though the actually soundtrack to the series is released on the 21st of March.
Thanks, I must have missed it since I was looking through every page for it. :doh:
Deathkillz
2007-02-05, 02:11
btw, did Chiaki, Mine or Nodame every realize that Masumi was a girl? or do they still think she's a guy? ("scraggly" in the tl i watched... lol)
Um... Masumi IS a man, you know. He is not female. He is just gay.
unlike me he actually got it right if you read his line again :heh:
an masumi sure can be spiteful :heh: i cant believe (actually i can knowing her) that nodame fell for the chain letter trick XD but i guess the food pushed her over the edge XD
Now I'm confused again...
I thought that Masumi was gay and might be a closet drag queen from that scene where he wants to go home. Not a girl.
Now I'm confused again...
I thought that Masumi was gay and might be a closet drag queen from that scene where he wants to go home. Not a girl.
Masumi is very much a guy as confirmed in the manga. They just play around with him and refer to him as "she" since he is gay. I'm surprised this many people think he is a girl since he has a mustache and all. :p
i just assumed it was a fake stache. :o oh well, i guess manga knowledge would have helped... i thought it was weird that thhey used a male seiyu...
sorry to have thrown the conversation off like that...
Shin_Battousai
2007-02-05, 07:06
Well considering that Nodame actually reminded Masumi that Chiaki is a guy and that Mine told her that Masumi swings that way, that should have gave it away but anyway...
I'm surprised this many people think he is a girl since he has a mustache and all. :p
Masumi does at very femine (which makes sense seeing as he's gay), though its the way characters act around him that makes viewers believe he is female. Its just a shame he isn't better looking... then i'd have myself another trap.
SeijiSensei
2007-02-05, 11:17
i think that makes it pretty clear that Nodame is the key to all of Chiaki's problems.
Yes, he's going to become so sick of Nodame that he'll fly to Europe just to escape her :p
Thanks for the extended definition of cantabile. I knew intuitively what it meant from taking music as a youngster, but the parts about its meaning in opera were new to me.
regarding masumi, i think what confuses everyone is the constant playing with language and usage of puns and reversed gendered pronouns to refer to his sexual orientation and effeminate sensibilities. he is definitely a guy though, and if it isn't painfully obvious after the first episode featuring him, it will definitely become more clear through the rest of the series.
khryoleoz
2007-02-05, 22:11
I love this title, even though I sorely miss the few omitted scenes. The voice performances are especially good. Kawasumi Ayako is so addicting to hear perform as Nodame. Both Seki and Kawada are also fun, though it's hard not to hear Sagara Sousuke and Hanai Haruki.
Milch has made his appearance and now I'm waiting for Sakura, the tiny double bass player who I like almost as much as I do Edgar Meyer and Brian Bromberg.
also with masume, along with the constant puns and playing with language, the mustache looks fake. it looks like it's drawn or glued on rather than being a naturalistic mustache. no biggie. li'm just surprised i didn't see it as a guy right away. MrProphet knows from Le Chevalier D'Eon that i have a sixth sense for these kind of things ("I see gay people").
anyway, i assume from khryoleoz's comments that each episode does introduce a new musician. that will be fun!
Quajafrie
2007-02-07, 10:30
I really want to like this show, I love piano and such, I like the two main characters, but it's TOO DAMN UNFUNNY. I can't stand the humour... It's just awful. I'm not very fond of anime comedies, but this is way too much... Anyways, I'll give it two or three more episodes.
cipotlar
2007-02-07, 10:48
Nodame Cantabile OP - Allegro Cantabile PV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABDmowGSIw)
Credit to the poster in youtube and lesslove from the_s_orchestra livejournal
I really want to like this show, I love piano and such, I like the two main characters, but it's TOO DAMN UNFUNNY. I can't stand the humour... It's just awful. I'm not very fond of anime comedies, but this is way too much... Anyways, I'll give it two or three more episodes.
I loved the show since the first episode, mainly *because* of the humor you apparently dislike. Although I personally can't imagine what the problem is with the humor, I doubt a few more episodes will make much of a difference if you don't like it after the first 4 episodes.
Anyway, episode 4 was great, my moment of the week: Stresemann laying out the wrong set of photographs when presenting his specially selected orchestra. :heh:
Srin Tuar
2007-02-07, 13:36
I really want to like this show, I love piano and such, I like the two main characters, but it's TOO DAMN UNFUNNY. I can't stand the humour... It's just awful. I'm not very fond of anime comedies, but this is way too much... Anyways, I'll give it two or three more episodes.
Meh, I'm not watching it for the humor myself. I didnt think it was really trying to be a comedy, alltohugh there were a few somewhat funny spots. Lol, and I could care less about the piano, its not my instrument :P
I want to see how the relationship between chiaki and nodame develops.
He's somewhat cold to her, but at the same time he gets jealous very quickly.
Other than his on and off flip-flopping, i like his attitude.
The German Miruki guy is quite hilarious as well. The way he sends the headmaster out on errands and is a total preverted jerk is actually funny, imo. It seems fame and foreigness are in fact quite a currency, and one which he intends to abuse to the limit. BUT, i have the feeling that once it looks like he has gone too far, he will have to perform and show his talent- thats the part I want to see. (assuming he's not just a foil for the protagonist)
Nodame is a ditzy, slovenly, no good girl, but she is simply too cute. The way she has clumsily attached herself to chiaki is also funny.
I have a feeling this show can go in interesting directions, so why not give it a shot.
Slice of life ... usually means just this sort of show. Some drama, some subtle humor, mostly the daily life. Of course, this is s-o-l about an unusual group of people who live in the world of arts (like H&C) so it may seem a bit alien to some.
hitokirigirl
2007-02-08, 11:49
Good Lord, and I thought there were no hilarious stuff here except Busou Renkin.... This anime is amazing !
Uncommon relationship, again : a clumsy-greedy girl clinging to a smartass and assertive bishie.
yet a common interest (music) pulls out the best of their crazy pairing.
I hope it will run for 26 eps (at least).
aliensporebomb
2007-02-08, 11:51
Wow. Episode 4:
Chiaki goes to extreme measures to insure that Nodame isn't taken into
the slimy clutches of the evil "Milch Holstein" (haha!). I was surprised
at the extremity too: "using my arm as a pillow". Well, we know what
will make Nodame change her mind now.
He correctly recognizes that not only is Nodame naive in the extreme but
that the damage our slimy conductor would wreak on her would actually
be considerable. He comes across as cold but I see his behavior here
a little bit like Takumi in Nana.
I'm wondering if I'm beginning to see some possessive jealousy when
it comes to Chiaki's feelings towards Nodame - he doesn't want anyone
putting their paws all over her much less someone who would use and
discard her.
Yet, he still can't publicly admit anything regarding her. Yet.
Well, "Milch" already has done some awful things - he's a lecherous
guy, he's had affairs with players in other orchestras, he's already
misused his power to prevent Chiaki from doing the transfer and
now we see Nodame ready to do extreme things to keep
Chiaki in the school with her.
I really hope that what was about to happen in the end of episode
four doesn't happen, it would be too vile. But will Chiaki stop the
madness or will Nodame do what it takes to keep Chiaki within
reach?
Great show, does anyone know if this will be a 12 or 24 episode series?
hitokirigirl
2007-02-08, 12:42
Wow. Episode 4:
Chiaki goes to extreme measures to insure that Nodame isn't taken into
the slimy clutches of the evil "Milch Holstein" (haha!). I was surprised
at the extremity too: "using my arm as a pillow". Well, we know what
will make Nodame change her mind now.
I loved this part : Chiaki is such an evil when it comes to manipulate nodame's feeling ^^"
Me too, I'd like to know if it will be a 12 or 24 set ?
To answer above ^
According to AniDB there will be 23 episodes (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4691).
Deathkillz
2007-02-08, 12:46
Wow. Episode 4:
I really hope that what was about to happen in the end of episode
four doesn't happen, it would be too vile. But will Chiaki stop the
madness or will Nodame do what it takes to keep Chiaki within
reach?
personally i think that "Milch" will stop himself if he as any sense of decency ~ this could just be a trail to see how far nodame would actually go for chiaki (pretty far by the looks of it :heh:)
well after rewatching with the subs ive experienced laugther again :D i think this is one of those series which i wont mind rewatching a few times ^__^
~ and i guess blowing your nose on important pieces of paper is now the new fad :p
dxgarten
2007-02-08, 17:55
Episode 05 screencaps and summary (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/nodamecantabile_ep05.html)
That was surprisingly brief. I am also disappointed that the orchestra scene ends up with mostly static stills.
That was surprisingly brief. I am also disappointed that the orchestra scene ends up with mostly static stills.
Thats true - though its pretty much expected. At least the music is top notch - it has been since the start of the series, and i can see it staying that way.
Shall check out episode 05 later on tonight.
MrProphet
2007-02-08, 19:34
Ah, episode 5 was another fine outing.
Although, I think most people would be surprised that it would be mostly concerned with the HARD WORK AND GUTS kind of message, rather than the usual lulz-factor.
Nodame still provides plenty of opportunities to laugh, but still, there were less gags that usual today. 8)
Shinndou
2007-02-08, 21:25
Nice episode, but I wish they better animated the parts where the orchestra is playing, it would have probably felt more immersive.
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