View Full Version : New P2P on the block: Perfect Dark
I hear that this program is supposed to be the successor to the newly discontinued Share. Has anyone else used it? I've found it to be fast as hell and addresses many of the problems that Winny and Share shared in terms of speed and security.
I've downloaded it (not tried it yet though), however since for now all I need can be found on Share/Winny I don't personally plan embarking on a new P2P program with a smaller userbase. Who knows, maybe in a few months/years...
Ayanami9870
2007-05-23, 14:36
Feedback from v0.886 user:
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"I've got 0.886 installed. It has the tiniest font known to man, and it can't be changed, so it's impossible to see what files are listed. It also uses 99% CPU constantly, for god knows what reason, since I wasn't hashing or downloading or even searching for anything. It also copies anything you want to "upload" into a special cache directory, which wastes twices the space. And it seems to lack trigger downloads."
I haven't used Perfect Dark myself, so that's what I'm going with. Personally, I'd keep Share for now until they make more improvements on Perfect Dark.
But does it really eat 99% CPU, or is it just that guy's system?
Feedback from v0.886 user:
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"I've got 0.886 installed. It has the tiniest font known to man, and it can't be changed, so it's impossible to see what files are listed. It also uses 99% CPU constantly, for god knows what reason, since I wasn't hashing or downloading or even searching for anything. It also copies anything you want to "upload" into a special cache directory, which wastes twices the space. And it seems to lack trigger downloads."
I haven't used Perfect Dark myself, so that's what I'm going with. Personally, I'd keep Share for now until they make more improvements on Perfect Dark.
But does it really eat 99% CPU, or is it just that guy's system?
Yeah, the font is tiny... Hopefully it'll be changeable soon, but a temporary solution is to click on the file and look at the filename at the top of the screen.
As for being a resource hog, it does use a bit more than Winny and Share, but nowhere near 99%.
'Perfect Dark'?
I'm pretty sure that infringes on a certain name copyright >_>
Ranguvar
2007-05-23, 15:41
Hmmm...
I'll try it, but I'm betting since it's still based on old-school P2P (no leeching, no shards, etc.) it won't be as good as uTorrent.
TheFluff
2007-05-23, 16:08
'Perfect Dark'?
I'm pretty sure that infringes on a certain name copyright >_>
The program developers obviously care a lot about protecting intellectual property and not infringing on copyrights, considering the program's intended usage. I'm certain the program name is unintentional and that they will change it once you notify them about this. We should get a translator to write a politely worded note and mail it to them.
(I can't tell if you're a really really good bad troll or just really really HURF BLURF)
the meaning of "joke" has obviosly been lost on fluff over the years and he now only know "troll"
Wasn't funny if it was a joke. TheFluff's post actually makes me smirk though :P.
i never said it was a good joke >_>
Then its deserved criticism :P.
BTW where is the news of Share being discontinued now?
Quarkboy
2007-05-23, 20:42
Then its deserved criticism :P.
BTW where is the news of Share being discontinued now?
Was Share's IP encryption hacked or something? I don't really see any point to yet another p2p program unless share's security had been breached... as far as I'm concerned Share is stable and quite usable, so unlike winny where people were scared of being arrested, I don't see why anyone would switch programs again unless Share's encryption was hacked by the government like winny's was.
Was Share's IP encryption hacked or something? I don't really see any point to yet another p2p program unless share's security had been breached... as far as I'm concerned Share is stable and quite usable, so unlike winny where people were scared of being arrested, I don't see why anyone would switch programs again unless Share's encryption was hacked by the government like winny's was.
Share... secure... thats a funny one. None of these P2P programs are truely secure and they all suffer from the exact same vulnerabilities. That said, Share's encryption hasn't been hacked but there are programs that can easily gather all the information without needing to break encryption. Seriously, if you are planning to switch for IP security, there is no point in switching. If you plan to switch because the program has actual security holes in it, then there is a point.
Quarkboy
2007-05-23, 23:01
Share... secure... thats a funny one. None of these P2P programs are truely secure and they all suffer from the exact same vulnerabilities. That said, Share's encryption hasn't been hacked but there are programs that can easily gather all the information without needing to break encryption. Seriously, if you are planning to switch for IP security, there is no point in switching. If you plan to switch because the program has actual security holes in it, then there is a point.
I wasn't asking because I'm scared of the Japanese police breaking down my door...
I was asking because if there was an OBVIOUS public case of the law extracting IPs to arrest people like there was with winny then that would cause people to migrate to the newer program.
But if there was no such thing I just don't see any Japanese people moving away from share in large numbers like they did with winny. When it comes to software, it seems the japanese are real sticklers for trying anything new (most raws are still DIVX, for gods sake... not to mention the extrodinary outdatedness of 2chan...)
I was asking because Starks said this
I hear that this program is supposed to be the successor to the newly discontinued Share.
So don't ask me :P. I'm the same opinion as you Quarkboy. Not to mention Share's developer has not been sent to jail. So I don't think it's quite dead yet, and even before development and version changes were slow. So either strange jump to conclusions or some mystic information only Starks has.
(most raws are still DIVX, for gods sake... not to mention the extrodinary outdatedness of 2chan...)
I'd like to know what magical raw world you live in n_n. The one I'm in seems to be full of WMV raws...dear god, so many ;-; everywhere! Not to mention a still prevalent use of 120fps when it is absolutely not needed. Makes me cry the sad state of affairs most jpn encoders are in.
Quarkboy
2007-05-24, 01:04
I was asking because Starks said this
So don't ask me :P. I'm the same opinion as you Quarkboy. Not to mention Share's developer has not been sent to jail. So I don't think it's quite dead yet, and even before development and version changes were slow. So either strange jump to conclusions or some mystic information only Starks has.
I'd like to know what magical raw world you live in n_n. The one I'm in seems to be full of WMV raws...dear god, so many ;-; everywhere! Not to mention a still prevalent use of 120fps when it is absolutely not needed. Makes me cry the sad state of affairs most jpn encoders are in.
Well, for PORN, yeah, wmv is the most common for DVD rips :).
TV-cappers seem to prefer divx, however. At least on share, I see 3x more divx encodes than wmv or xvid. You see more and more x264 raws though, every day.
Not sure about Share, but on Winny WMV definitely seems to be far more popular than DivX.
I've tried PD a month ago and I find it mostly unpopulated with very little files, thus useless to the western leeching crowds. The listing font is awfully small and it can't be changed (for now). That's not really a big issue for me, but the small number of shared files is. One thing I like is that it finds results faster and isn't relying on trigger searches like in Share.
I obviously prefer Share at the current time but its memory leaks are freaking annoying. In any case, each of these programs lacks stuff. For Winny it's the security and viruses, for Share memory leaks, Perfect Dark is unpopulated and still lacking in features and design.
Oh, and if you want anonymity, just leech through a VPN network. Relakks does the trick. :D
Oh, and if you want anonymity, just leech through a VPN network. Relakks does the trick. :D
An off topic FYI: Relakks doesn't offer VPN service. VPN is the method of connecting to Relakks servers for their proxy service, as far as I can tell from their Q&A page.
Tried it, the font size is super tiny but the cpu usage varies from 5 to 25%. I have a AMD 64 3000+.
Well, for PORN, yeah, wmv is the most common for DVD rips :).
TV-cappers seem to prefer divx, however. At least on share, I see 3x more divx encodes than wmv or xvid. You see more and more x264 raws though, every day.
Well don't forget they practically stick everything into AVI, so you have tons of VfW WMV stuff in AVI as well as the normal .WMV junk. But I'm quite sure if you look harder you'll see WMV caps/rips/etc outnumber anything else on both Share and Winny. And no not referring to porn here either :P.
Quarkboy
2007-05-24, 14:39
Well don't forget they practically stick everything into AVI, so you have tons of VfW WMV stuff in AVI as well as the normal .WMV junk. But I'm quite sure if you look harder you'll see WMV caps/rips/etc outnumber anything else on both Share and Winny. And no not referring to porn here either :P.
Okay, time to bring the evidentiary beat-down...
I'm using hashdb, a winny hash database, searching for a recent episode, say, Lucky Star episode 6:
http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A4%E9%A4%AD+%A4%B9%A4%BF+%C2%E806%CF %C3&p=1&s=u
Let's count the results, shall we?
3 WMV
1 unknown (unlabled avi)
1 x264
_11_ Divx
You can repeat this for any episode of any show you want. I've been raw hunting for many years and there are MANY more divx raws (most of them crappy) than any other format, for pretty much any show, period.
Let's choose a slightly different genre, shall we?
Bokurano, ep 5:
http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A4%DC%A4%AF%A4%E9%A4%CE+%C2%E805%CF% C3&p=1&s=u
3 Divx
1 WMV
1 x264
again, divx wins.
What are these shows with "mostly wmv" raws out there? I've never seen it.
From my experience I would say that DivX is the most common one that I see, however I only search for stuff that I need, no random searches for Naruto just for fun...
[...]
What are these shows with "mostly wmv" raws out there? I've never seen it.
If you want counter-examples, no problem. I'll use the same site I guess.
Well, here's one example:
http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A5%AE%A5%A2%A5%B9+%C2%E805%CF%C3&p=1&s=u
(ep 5 of Code Geass, choose the episode number at random.)
12 WMV
9 DivX
4 x264
2 unlabeled AVI
Well, with the uncertainty of those unlabeled AVIs, I guess you could call it a draw.
Here's another:
http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A4%C8%A4%AD%A4%E1%A4%AD%A5%E1%A5%E2% A5%EA%A5%A2%A5%EB+%C2%E802%CF%C3&p=1&s=u
(ep 2 of Tokimeki Memorial (Again, took a random ep number))
8 WMV
2 DivX
1 x264
Doesn't seem worth debating over too much, it'll vary per show. Besides, aren't we kind of getting off-topic here?
Back to the matter at hand, I think that Perfect Dark is worth keeping an eye on. If the Japanese make the switch, it only makes sense for us to follow suit.
First of all...
Winny.. WinNY fails, it's old and outdated.
Share EX2 that's what im currently using for "distroing" my dvd rips, either mkv or avi oriented ones.
Half of the dvd rips of AVs (Adult Videos) either have crappy bitrate or are really fooly encoded with weird sizes of both the pixel/bitrate oriented way.
Perfect Dark, PD or EX3 as some may call it, is not gonna go up like share or winny did, due to that it's layout is pretty much "screwed up". I wont use Perfect dark, even if it reaches v1.0 the layout is just not worth it.
Sure they've exploited Share already, but hell I aint gona end up with nothing.
We release both new and old stuff on share, just like winny users does. But then again, dont expect to find any fansubs containing english anytime soon ;)
lime_green
2007-05-29, 07:56
i've tried PD, i don't mind the layout, but the font size is annoying as hell. anyway, i've only managed to get one episode from it, and it was really slow (obviously). i'm gonna stick with winny and share for now
i've tried PD, i don't mind the layout, but the font size is annoying as hell. anyway, i've only managed to get one episode from it, and it was really slow (obviously). i'm gonna stick with winny and share for nowI've found the speed to comparable if not better than Share.
PD has great potential but it has quite a ways to go before it can become an adequate replacement. I look forward to version 1.0.
lime_green
2007-05-29, 08:25
i've only tried it for a few anime, so i don't really know how good it really is
Tried using it for downloading some PV's. It's slow. Slower than Share and WinNY. At the moment I'd chose those two over PD.
JediNight
2007-05-30, 04:45
Quarkboy: Yeah the Japanese seem to prefer these archaic god-awful BBS systems from like 1992, and I can't figure out why. There are plenty of good BBS offerings online. phpbb and Invision come to mind, among others. And then 4chan went and used the same god-awful BBS...
I am seeing a fairly significant upswing in H264 raws, which is a good thing. Even WMV9 quality isn't bad IMHO.
mangatron
2007-06-03, 04:42
First of all...
Winny.. WinNY fails, it's old and outdated.
Share EX2 that's what im currently using for "distroing" my dvd rips, either mkv or avi oriented ones.
Half of the dvd rips of AVs (Adult Videos) either have crappy bitrate or are really fooly encoded with weird sizes of both the pixel/bitrate oriented way.
Perfect Dark, PD or EX3 as some may call it, is not gonna go up like share or winny did, due to that it's layout is pretty much "screwed up". I wont use Perfect dark, even if it reaches v1.0 the layout is just not worth it.
Sure they've exploited Share already, but hell I aint gona end up with nothing.
We release both new and old stuff on share, just like winny users does. But then again, dont expect to find any fansubs containing english anytime soon ;)
lol about your comment on winny...
It most certainly does not fail. What is most certainly does is fail on users who just happen to be in the wrong area and/or have a POS node list or are just plain unlucky. With an odd node list I seemingly found, it got even better when a friend of mine just dumped his 700KB+ list on me, but even before then I've found many seriously old files and even the newest files before anyone even knows they are there and so far winny has never failed me, unlike how share apparently did.
The saying now takes effect, "to each their own". We can then mash the "one man's trash is another man's treasure" saying and mix in the "sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you aint" saying.... :heh:
What I do find funny is I've had this PD for quite some weeks but just never got around to even looking at the file... :heh:
To the best of my knowledge (and I could be wrong), both Winny and Share are not compatible with Windows Vista. I'm not sure about PD's adoption rate, but in a year or two, a fair percentage of people worldwide will be using Vista and the fansub community is going to need a next-generation client to get the job done.
I don't want to have to dual-boot or run a virtual instance of XP just to get raws and neither will the Japanese.
(FYI, I have zero plans to upgrade to Vista until at least SP1.)
I must have missed the "next generation" part of PD ? What does it do special beyond the already completely usable Share, which doesn't require Japanese locale encoding?
I see no reason why Share or even WinNY would be "incompatible" with Vista either. Set up your permissions, forward your ports through whatever the horrible new firewall interface is. Magix.
I must have missed the "next generation" part of PD ? What does it do special beyond the already completely usable Share, which doesn't require Japanese locale encoding?
I see no reason why Share or even WinNY would be "incompatible" with Vista either. Set up your permissions, forward your ports through whatever the horrible new firewall interface is. Magix.
In Vista, Share tries to work, but bombards you with memory leak dialog boxes. I've heard many conflicting reports about Winny (as well as Winnyp) and Vista not being very friendly. Some say it works, some say it's fickle, and others say it doesn't.
I may give this a go sometime; unfortunately I've never had the patience to perservere with winny, and Share gives me port errors ever since I had to go down the route of wireless routers and crap.
My situation is I have a Linksys ADSL 2 modem, which has router like software (it has port forwarding and stuff you commonly get in a router), and this modem is hooked into a WRT54GL which is a wireless router, also with port forwarding and stuff. Normal port forwarding I could probably get on with, but I'm confused. The router is 192.168.1.1 and the modem is 192.168.2.1
You may not notice it, but PD is starting to gain momentum on 2ch's Download threads. Last I heard, there was a hash cataloging site in the works.
Onniguru
2007-06-28, 19:25
On a tangentally related note: steroz is down! (The place I get my nodes from)
must...have...nodes...vital...lifeforce...ebbing.. .
Does anyone here have any good node-listing sites? My nodes are about a month old now, and with steroz down...
Not sure if it's allowed to post those sites here. Anyway, check your PM >_>;.
(Onniguru, I use peerto and xrea for nodes)
Does anyone else find it cool how PD automagically updates itself?
Share works perfectly fine in Vista.
Onniguru
2007-06-29, 09:00
Not sure if it's allowed to post those sites here. Anyway, check your PM >_>;.
Thanks. Yeah, PM is the way to go, for these kinds of sites :)
Thanks stark, as well...although for one of those sites I'm glad I made sure my browser security settings were set pretty high.
Share works perfectly fine in Vista.Heh, I recently figured that out too... Share didn't work with some beta builds of Longhorn/Vista.
... you do know that's just plain stupid? Saying something doesn't work because it didn't work on a beta. Do some research before you're gonna reply =.=.
Twice Twisted
2007-07-03, 12:20
I tried last version, which are still marked as "testing" and I don't know how to use it. I tried use it like Winny or Share, but no result :-(
My Winny nodelist is about 2 years old now... I need to get a good up to date one.
PD... doesn't seem to... appeal to me much. *kicks it*
My Winny nodelist is about 2 years old now... I need to get a good up to date one.
PD... doesn't seem to... appeal to me much. *kicks it*
A good nodelist updates itself doesn't it?
Well, I only know one site where they now post new nodes. I'll PM you the link.
Potatochobit
2007-07-06, 16:02
I started playing with perfect dark it seems ok format. I like how the top and bottom screen can be switched around at any time.
the font is pretty small though. and CPU usage might be high on older computers.
is the nodes list really updating itself or was that a joke? :eyespin:
TheFluff
2007-07-06, 17:43
Uh. The point of Share, Winny and (presumably) Perfect Dark is that they are all true peer-to-peer networks with no central controlling server (like, for example, a BT tracker). The list of nodes is just a list of other peers in the network. Once you are connected to just one peer/node to start off with, the client will get lists of other peers/nodes/whatever to connect to from that peer. Hence you only really need the online nodelist once; the first time you set up the program, so it can "bootstrap" itself into the network. To compare with BT: every client is also a tracker. If the client didn't exchange network info with other clients, you'd have Direct Connect except with no hubs, no file lists and no usernames, only hashes. Which would be kinda useless.
tl;dr: you only need the nodelist to get in contact with someone who's already connected to the network; once you are connected to one node, your client will automagically find and connect to others.
<--- case in point
I haven't touched my nodelist file in couple of years, and I'm still going strong on both winny and share. PD should be the same way too.
Potatochobit
2007-07-07, 20:37
I have decided JP P2P is a bit mentally impaired.
I don't like having numerous incomplete files being stuck in my download folder for days on end. I just want one complete file, and that's it.
TheFluff
2007-07-07, 21:35
No, it's not mentally impaired, it's actually a quite ingenious way to have a distributed network with millions of users and billions of files without any central coordination whatsoever.
I have decided JP P2P is a bit mentally impaired.
I don't like having numerous incomplete files being stuck in my download folder for days on end. I just want one complete file, and that's it.
It's the way their network works, you can have partial files for months before you complete it in some cases. If you need complete files on a timeline, you'd probably be better off looking for a BT or DD of the said files.
I find it's only really a pressing issue if you have hard drive limitations
Fatsobob
2007-07-09, 11:53
Since I cannot understand the Japanese language and I hate memorizing layouts, is there any information/hope of a sort of localization for PD like Share had? A yes or a no will do.
silverado
2007-07-09, 13:16
You can find a Perfect Dark tutorial on jCafe (http://jcafe.vnmanga.com/index.php/board,76.0.html). It's quite reliable in finding manga raws. All my downloads are often finished after a few hours. (Can't say that from Winny or Share). Regular software updates and less fake results contribute to the overall positive feeling of Perfect Dark.
Since I cannot understand the Japanese language and I hate memorizing layouts, is there any information/hope of a sort of localization for PD like Share had? A yes or a no will do.
As of right now, Perfect Dark has the localization hard coded the same way WinNY does. Maybe in a future version, there will be a localization file, but I wouldn't count on it.
Potatochobit
2007-07-09, 14:05
are files being downloaded automatically show up in query results available for share among other users like torrents?
I noticed in SHARE ex2 that the cache folder is seperate from the upload folder. I wasn't sure if people had access to that immediately in perfect dark.
are files being downloaded automatically show up in query results available for share among other users like torrents?
I noticed in SHARE ex2 that the cache folder is seperate from the upload folder. I wasn't sure if people had access to that immediately in perfect dark.
Perfect Dark's cache folder is the "Unity" folder in your PD directory, though I have no idea how the network behaves regarding partial downloads. I believe that files are added manually in perfect dark rather than dumping them in an upload folder like share and winny. However i'm not sure because I haven't tried uploading anything to the network yet.
You can find a Perfect Dark tutorial on jCafe (http://jcafe.vnmanga.com/index.php/board,76.0.html). It's quite reliable in finding manga raws. All my downloads are often finished after a few hours. (Can't say that from Winny or Share). Regular software updates and less fake results contribute to the overall positive feeling of Perfect Dark.
PD and its users are a bit slower on the draw for new releases... I can get them much earlier on Winny and Share still.
As of right now, Perfect Dark as the localization hard coded the same way WinNY does. Maybe in a future version, there will be a localization file, but I wouldn't count on it.
It can probably be resource hacked in a matter similar to Winny b6.6...
At any rate, we should ask in the PD mission threads on 2ch.net. Kaichou (PD dev) lurks around there.
Okay guys... Massive discovery.
As I posited, Perfect Dark can be resource hacked rather easily. (I used XN Resource Editor on perfect dark.exe)
Things I was able to change.
*Fonts
*Font size
*Languages
*Icons
*Dialogs
Nice find. Looks like it might not take too long before it will have English localization. Even though that's one of the last things that I care about. It'd be much better if the memory leaks were fixed first and the awful CPU usage. -.-
Nice find. Looks like it might not take too long before it will have English localization. Even though that's one of the last things that I care about. It'd be much better if the memory leaks were fixed first and the awful CPU usage. -.-Apparently, most of the menus are natively English without any tweaking in the resource editor and appear in Japanese only when PD is loaded.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9713/pdhackedjf6.th.png (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pdhackedjf6.png)
There is Japanese translation of Perfect Dark on INFO_LINE with name/id of 109
There is Japanese translation of Perfect Dark on INFO_LINE with name/id of 109
Your point?
Your point?
/* perfect dark infoline */
id "0"
"perfect dark by Kaicho-."
"perfect dark by 会長."
id "1"
"perfect dark"
id "2"
"superpower"
id "3"
"changing settings.
please wait..."
"設定を変更中です。
しばらくお待ち下さい。"
id "4"
"perfect dark is shutting down.
please wait..."
"perfect dark を終了中です。
しばらくお待ち下さい。"
id "5"
"Do you really want to exit perfect dark?"
"perfect dark を終了します。よろしいですか？"
id "10"
" information "
" 情報 "
id "11"
" search "
" 検索 "
id "12"
" download "
" ダウンロード "
id "13"
" complete "
" 完了 "
id "14"
" gather "
" ギャザー "
id "15"
" board "
" ボード "
id "16"
" view "
" 表示 "
id "17"
" upload "
" アップロード "
id "19"
"not implemented."
id "20"/* the sons of liberty */
"perfect dark version %2.3f by Kaicho- & 2ch powered."
"perfect dark version %2.3f by 会長 & 2ch powered."
id "21"
"perfect dark is offline."
id "22"
"perfect dark is online. open port NOT confirmed."
"perfect dark is online. ポート解放は未確認です。"
id "23"
"perfect dark is online."
id "24"
"new version detected!"
"新しいバージョンが検出されました！"
id "25"
"automatically shutting down in %d seconds."
"自動終了まであと %d 秒"
id "39"
"search filter."
id "40"
"filter : "
"フィルタ："
id "41"
"file"
"ファイル"
id "42"
"board"
"ボード"
id "43"
"gather"
"ギャザー"
id "44"
"new"
"未登録"
id "45"
"download"
"ダウンロード"
id "46"
"complete"
"完了"
id "47"
"good"
"良い"
id "48"
"neutral"
"中間"
id "49"
"bad"
"悪い"
id "50"
"exe"
"実行"
id "51"
"multi"
"重複"
(cut)
Looks somewhat like po translation to me. so if it is not loaded it would be english, or something or there must be someway to switch
Wow... I really hit pay-dirt with idea to reshack Perfect Dark. Hopefully we'll figure everything out soon.
Slice of Life
2007-07-15, 08:00
OK, here is a bunch of hopefully not too naive questions from somebody who has never used Winny or its successors.
What exactly is the difference between them and the olde decentralized tools like overnet? What exactly is encrypted? The shared packages? Trying to log and analyze the transmitted raw data on the net is a pretty bad strategy. If you want the IPs of sharers simply take part in the sharing process. And this is something the copyright holder can do by himself, not just the government. I can't see how revealing the IP to the sharing partner can be prevented except if PD uses something like onion routing and even that wouldn't make sense if the network is exclusively created for PD. Furthermore, what does it mean, encryption has been hacked? Standard encryption algortihms cannot simply be "hacked". Finally, why is PD not open source? Security via obscurity?
edogawaconan
2007-07-15, 09:06
Looks somewhat like po translation to me. so if it is not loaded it would be english, or something or there must be someway to switch
my guess would be that it checks the local language on the system and use the language setting accordingly :eyespin:
Damn, why doesn't this work! If I make even a single change, PD will refuse to start. I've tried this with 0.880 through 0.920...
TheFluff
2007-07-15, 10:14
What exactly is the difference between them and the olde decentralized tools like overnet? What exactly is encrypted? The shared packages? Trying to log and analyze the transmitted raw data on the net is a pretty bad strategy. If you want the IPs of sharers simply take part in the sharing process. And this is something the copyright holder can do by himself, not just the government. I can't see how revealing the IP to the sharing partner can be prevented except if PD uses something like onion routing and even that wouldn't make sense if the network is exclusively created for PD. Furthermore, what does it mean, encryption has been hacked? Standard encryption algortihms cannot simply be "hacked". Finally, why is PD not open source? Security via obscurity?
I'll try to address your questions by explaining how the network works (to my understanding; I'm not an expert at the subject and the full specifications on Share and Perfect Dark have never been published, most likely for security through obscurity reasons).
Winny/Share/Perfect Dark are all really a kind of giant encrypted shared network drive, sort of. Your client is always downloading things to its cache folder, regardless if you want it or not. I believe the things it downloads are not complete files, just parts of files, Bittorrent style. All transmitted data and all data in the cache is always encrypted, hence you need to "convert" fully downloaded files from your cache into your download folder (they need to be decrypted). When you "upload" files, you aren't uploading them to any specific user; you're uploading them into the network, regardless if other users want them or not - you're forcing other clients to download the file into their cache folders. Old files that noone has downloaded in a long time are automatically purged from the cache, so the network keeps itself clean, so to speak.
Furthermore, other peers (or "nodes" in the classical Share/Winny terminology) are never referred to by their IP address; addresses, too, are encrypted (or hashed).
The point of all this obscurity is that while you can simply run a netstat on your computer to see what nodes you're connected to, it's impossible to tell who is down- or uploading what, unless you manage to break the encryption to see what is being transmitted to who. You never download one full file from one node to another either; the structure of the network means you're always filtering it through a lot of other nodes' cache folders. Therefore it is very hard to prove any single node (except the one originally uploading the file into the network, but finding him/her is next to impossible) guilty of sharing anything.
I hope that answers most of your questions.
I will give a cookie to anyone who can help me successfully hack PD and still have it load after applying the changes.
I will give a cookie to anyone who can help me successfully hack PD and still have it load after applying the changes.
I would assume there to be better places for this kind of thing than here... ;)
Slice of Life
2007-07-15, 14:19
I hope that answers most of your questions.
Only a few.There must be a function to actually request files instead of waiting until the right packets appear in your cache by chance, or not? And for encrypting IPs, I don't know if it is possible under Windows to establish a connection without letting the OS know (which would definitely be a bug, not a feature) but your network card knows who it is talking to. Put another computer between number one and the internet = problem solved.
Well it does sound a bit like onion routing (plus caching) where every node knows who it is talking to but not what it is transporting and what is the source and final destination. But what you cannot hide is the fact that you're running a Tor node.
TheFluff
2007-07-15, 15:46
Only a few.There must be a function to actually request files instead of waiting until the right packets appear in your cache by chance, or not?
Yes, of course there is (there is also a system with "keywords" that indicate what you are interested in downloading; your node will prefer to connect to other nodes with similar keywords). But regardless of you are actually requesting to download or upload anything at all, as long as the program is running, it will down/upload things from/to the cache.
And for encrypting IPs, I don't know if it is possible under Windows to establish a connection without letting the OS know (which would definitely be a bug, not a feature) but your network card knows who it is talking to.
Read my post again. In the program itself you never see what node has what IP; the program knows but it isn't telling you. A netstat (=show all active IP connections) will show what IP's the computer is connected to at the moment, but it will not tell you what data is going where.
But what you cannot hide is the fact that you're running a Tor node.
Nor is it necessary to do so. As proven in several court cases, the actual P2P technology is not illegal in itself; what is illegal is transmitting copyrighted works without the copyright holder's permission, and that is very hard to prove with something like Share or Perfect Dark.
I've downloaded and tried Perfect Dark, and as others have said it uses up alot of the CPU, at least on my PC. Until that gets fixed I'm going to stay with Share.
I haven't used Winny in literally years, and my nodes don't work anymore :-( Can anyone PM me a working Winny nodes list, or PM me link where to find one? Thanks
skystrife
2007-07-15, 19:57
I will give a cookie to anyone who can help me successfully hack PD and still have it load after applying the changes.
My guess would be that it has a security feature that automatically terminates itself if it's image has changed. Something like that was built into Share if I remember correctly.
My guess would be that it has a security feature that automatically terminates itself if it's image has changed. Something like that was built into Share if I remember correctly.
It's kinda lika "im in ur codingz, keeping out teh gaijinz"
Indeed an "anti-hack" feature accomplishes two things:
1. No hacked clients on the network, that possibly can breach security. (One can argue that that's security through obscurity, you would have to trust it to me more than that.)
2. Keeps out people who can't (more or less) understand Japanese, "they don't share back" - this is somewhat a shame.
Slice of Life
2007-07-16, 10:06
In the program itself you never see what node has what IP; the program knows but it isn't telling you. A netstat (=show all active IP connections) will show what IP's the computer is connected to at the moment, but it will not tell you what data is going where.
[...] As proven in several court cases, the actual P2P technology is not illegal in itself; what is illegal is transmitting copyrighted works without the copyright holder's permission, and that is very hard to prove with something like Share or Perfect Dark.
Yes, I understand ... assuming you talk about Japanese courts since the two of us are not under Japanese jurisdiction anways. But laws can be changed and when there is a 99.5 percent probability that you use an encrypted connection to download copyrighted material a different judge might decide that it is OK to raid your home regardless. House searches happen on much weaker evidence.
But all in all I don't see anything in PD that could not be implemented open source. Tor already provides the infrastructure, and also for a lot of things that are 100 percent "ethically correct".
A least I now understand that Japan hasn't invented the magic bullet either.
I have a theory... Perhaps the protection is nothing more than a simple CRC check... Perhaps I can spoof it or even hex edit it out.
Ironically enough, I come from a fansub group that excels in the art of CRC manipulation.
Medalist
2007-07-16, 15:01
I have a theory... Perhaps the protection is nothing more than a simple CRC check... Perhaps I can spoof it or even hex edit it out.
Ironically enough, I come from a fansub group that excels in the art of CRC manipulation.
...doremi lol.(manipulation!111!!!one!!)
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I honestly don't like this P2P program I can barely get it to pop up on any results. And it's been mentioned left & right about the small database or whatever. Small text, not much of a problem.... And the copyright infringement of a name from "Perfect Dark" which was on N64 is really a bother that the FBI will be lurking around the nodes on this thing.
Ironically enough, I come from a fansub group that excels in the art of CRC manipulation.
Please; you make it sound as though it's some kind of trade secret.
skystrife
2007-07-16, 17:18
My guess is that it's more complicated than a CRC check. Probably at least md5 or sha1.
My guess is that it's more complicated than a CRC check. Probably at least md5 or sha1.Perhaps.
PD refuses to start if even a single letter or number in the coding is changed.
Meh, CRC spoofing failed.
AFAIK, spoofing an MD5 or SHA1 is next to impossible.
I think I'd be better off isolating whatever prevents modifications to the file and simply remove it. I don't know where to look though.
Sparky32
2007-08-10, 12:04
You guys do already know you can edit the font size by editing the text file "visual" within the folder "mutagen" right?
You guys do already know you can edit the font size by editing the text file "visual" within the folder "mutagen" right?
That option was only recently added to new versions.
Sparky32
2007-08-10, 12:53
Guess it was sort of ironic you guys spent last month trying to change the coding and they simply finally came out with an option to freely edit the program :D
Unless I am mistaken, there is no way to change the text (and subsequently port it to English) in Perfect Dark using the mutagen file.
Unless I am mistaken, there is no way to change the text (and subsequently port it to English) in Perfect Dark using the mutagen file.
I'd hazard a guess in saying that the mutagen folder will have more files in the upcoming versions. I find it rather pointless for a single file to necessitate a completely new folder.
Perhaps a chance at localization will manifest itself in the future when more files are added.
I'd hazard a guess in saying that the mutagen folder will have more files in the upcoming versions. I find it rather pointless for a single file to necessitate a completely new folder.
Perhaps a chance at localization will manifest itself in the future when more files are added.
I agree that the creation of a new folder for one file seems rather redundant, but I wonder if a localization file will come to pass. While I hope that it will happen, I'm skeptical due to how the Japanese have reacted to us using their networks in the past.
I agree that the creation of a new folder for one file seems rather redundant, but I wonder if a localization file will come to pass. While I hope that it will happen, I'm skeptical due to how the Japanese have reacted to us using their networks in the past.
Japanese: "Damn them gaijins..."
Americans: "LULZ, IM IN UR NETWORK DOWNLOADING UR RAWS..."
fireshark
2007-08-12, 15:46
What mutagen folder? I'm running 0.941 and I don't see one.
What mutagen folder? I'm running 0.941 and I don't see one.
Strange... When Perfect Dark updated for me, it automatically created the mutagen folder and the visual.txt file. It also started spitting out this strange error whenever I start it.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4026/wutkh3.png
Strange... When Perfect Dark updated for me, it automatically created the mutagen folder and the visual.txt file. It also started spitting out this strange error whenever I start it.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4026/wutkh3.png
As far as my broken 4th year japanese will tell me. It looks like you're missing a crucial file in your "unity folder".
Hopefully someone else here can give a better translation.
Hmm, as far as I can tell (my Japanese isn't very good either :) - especially not for technical stuff) it's something about downloading being ineffecient until your "unity" (cache) folder contains at least 2 GB, and once you have at least 2 GB in cache downloading what you're actually looking for should become easier.
(Ie. PD downloads lots of stuff, even things you aren't requesting it to download - having it download and cache lots of different things and having them encrypted in cache provides some form of plausible deniability I believe: It's not possible to tell from just what is in the cache what you yourself have wanted to download and what you're just acting as an anonymous carrier for. Of course IANAL and I don't know if that really makes things any better or worse in court if anyone decides to play those games.)
Ah ok, I had just done a clean install on perfect dark (something went wrong previously and it would never boot up properly). I was worried that something messed up again. Thank you for helping me out with that.
Somebody finally put out a "translation tool" for PD...
http://www.madjoki.com/tiedostot/PefectTranslation.rar
One catch, it only works on pop-ups at the moment.
*Mods, I am not linking to the actual P2P program.*
Somebody finally put out a "translation tool" for PD...
http://www.madjoki.com/tiedostot/PefectTranslation.rar
One catch, it only works on pop-ups at the moment.
*Mods, I am not linking to the actual P2P program.*
/me did
btw. updated program
You can get newest version from now at http://www.madjoki.com/blog/categories/perfect-dark/
So, how does it work? On the fly res-hacking?
I agree that the creation of a new folder for one file seems rather redundant, but I wonder if a localization file will come to pass. While I hope that it will happen, I'm skeptical due to how the Japanese have reacted to us using their networks in the past.
Apperantly there was language file before but it was moved inside program later. (text.infoline)
fireshark
2007-10-02, 01:02
Starks: Memory patch or something, by the looks of it. It reverts after the Translator closes.
jfs: yeah, like most freenet-type systems. I had to get to around ~5GB before anything happened.
niko: it's INFOLONE resource inside program right?
Seems that most sites having nodes and such have been going down these past months... so.. what's up? Is the government really "that" unhappy?
Should I code my own P2P client etc?
How hard can it be to make files so encrypted so that you'll make people stop trying to fiddle with the files...
Orochimaru83
2007-10-11, 09:27
Well, a site with nodes has shown up. It's got nodes for winny, share and pd.
So share is not dead yet :>
I don't think it's allowed to post the link here. If anyone is interested, send me a PM.
fireshark
2007-10-11, 20:12
It should be, they're just IP's.
This? http://tomman.monkeeh.com/share/nodes.php
Orochimaru83
2007-10-12, 09:14
Nope, another one. That's the portuguese node site if I'm not wrong.
Hi, anyone of you knows a free alternative for 2chtube?
@Orochimaru83
its a spanish site from Venezuela
fireshark
2007-11-23, 21:44
Nicovideo/
Latest version has English language included.
I just noticed.
Perfect Dark is now gaijin-friendly.
BoboTheMonkey
2007-12-26, 23:27
Man I'm having trouble using this lol. I've been trying to figure out what damn port to use but I cant figure out a good one. I get the Perfect Dark is Online thing but in red cause of my port and stuff ><
Anyone know some good ports to try?
Also I've done port fowarding as well (in both UDP and TCP)
fireshark
2007-12-27, 00:27
BoboTheMonkey: Any will do. Just open it.
English --- since 0.980
BoboTheMonkey
2007-12-27, 01:03
BoboTheMonkey: Any will do. Just open it.
English --- since 0.980
Ah I see,, Im using .933 (I couldnt find .980) T_T
fireshark
2007-12-27, 01:19
It will update itself.
Man I'm having trouble using this lol. I've been trying to figure out what damn port to use but I cant figure out a good one. I get the Perfect Dark is Online thing but in red cause of my port and stuff ><
Anyone know some good ports to try?
Also I've done port fowarding as well (in both UDP and TCP)
you know im having hte same problem ( but mine is in english ). Ive done ports for azureus and mIRC, but some odd reason cant seem to get this one to work.
ALso i could use some search titles ( Like when using share, wich i used once al ong time ago, but i didnth ave any good node list so it was a ohrrible expirience ) you need to type in the right things to search for, and you usually get better results when its types in japanese ( so something like "anime" in japanese, wich for the life of me i cant remember even when i used to write it ). I think its アニメ, but i also need all the other ones most people use on Share, if possible.
lamer_de
2007-12-31, 06:35
using general search terms like "anime" is next to pointless, because every node and every second file is tagged with it, which means you get a lot of irrelevant results. You need the katas/kanji for the specific series you're interested in.
It looks like you don't have that much knowledge of the Japanese language, so why do you want to use such programs? Nowadays, pretty much every series is torrented as a raw file, so if you can't wait the time it takes to fansub, you can just download those.
BoboTheMonkey
2007-12-31, 11:31
you know im having hte same problem ( but mine is in english ). Ive done ports for azureus and mIRC, but some odd reason cant seem to get this one to work..
Yea I couldnt figure it out so I just went back to using Winny...but Winny takes so damn long for me to DL something though lol, took me like 1 day to dl a newly released RAW and I was like damn lol...
Good luck trying to get it to work, if you do tell me what ports your using
fireshark
2007-12-31, 16:17
Most people reelase on Share anyhow.
Nowadays, pretty much every series is torrented as a raw file, so if you can't wait the time it takes to fansub, you can just download those.
If you're happy with only one raw.
BT Doesnt work for me, none of them do anymore. Thus i have to find new ways to download.
fireshark
2008-01-01, 16:38
Therefore, you fail.
It's rather easy to get the japanese for anime -- try Google.
What exactly is " get the japanese with anime" OMG ANIME DOESNT COME WITH JAPANESE ANYMORE!?!?! :0000
What exactly is " get the japanese with anime" OMG ANIME DOESNT COME WITH JAPANESE ANYMORE!?!?! :0000
fireshark meant something along the lines of "If you need the Japanese title of an anime for a search query in a Japanese P2P application use Google to find the exact title."
And really, you should have read the whole thread in order not to have made yourself look like an idiot. :V
i think id rather look like a fool, then be one thanks :)
Matsuemon
2008-04-25, 21:14
Hello all,
I've recently downloaded Winny and just can't seem to get it to work. All my nodes just say "waiting" and over on the right, under the "preference" tab, it gives me a zero, then a negative number. I can't ever pull up any "hits" when I do even a simple search for a common word like "AVI."
So, I thought I'd try "Share" out. However, all the links I'm finding are DEAD! Does anyone know where I can download a recent version??
If anyone can help with either of my situations, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
fireshark
2008-04-27, 20:06
Share10_ex2.zip
So Share died, and PD is the new thang, supposedly. Why in the hell is it using 50% CPU on average, though? Is there something wrong with my installation? I'd get it if it was hashing up files or something from the upload directory, but I'm not even doing anything. It has somehow managed to use up 3h26m of CPU time on a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo in 3h15m (dual core, though, so roughly 50% constant use). This seems insane.
This seems insane.It is, but that's how it's suppossed to be. I have yet to fill up my unity folder, but I'm guessing it has something to do with files still downloading to it. Unity is supposedly a storage of various file fragments from a variety users, probably cached or encrypted in some way. <_<?
I have a question: How do you search for files? ^^; I doubt PD compiles a full index of every available file ever upped from which you can search...
Doesn't it use nodes too (probably I haven't poked the settings/etc too much)... so something similar to Share or Winny's style of search?
I have a question: How do you search for files? ^^; I doubt PD compiles a full index of every available file ever upped from which you can search...
What do you mean by search, exactly? I have it running like this (http://img.muri.se/pd-search.jpg), which seems to run a roaming search that collects file info. Lower left area shows the search tree, lower right is the file list. Haven't figured out if there are any clusters or triggers yet, and it's incredibly slow to get a file, compared to Share.
Kaoru Chujo
2008-05-13, 17:41
I'm kind of flying blind, but I have got PD working and downloading things. The speed is very variable: sometimes as fast as WinNY, often really slow.
It takes up a lot of RAM (about 90Mb right now) but only a couple of percent of CPU. And of course there's that massive cache folder "unity." Mine's up to about 9Gb now, after three weeks or so. I plan to let it get to 20Gb rather than 40Gb and trim it after that. We'll see.
I find that you can poke a search simply by clicking on the keyword. An exclamation mark shows up after it for a while, while it seems to be searching. But since I find new files every time I go back to some keywords, I suspect it keeps searching all your keywords whether you click on them or not. It seems to me that I can sometimes poke a dead download by right-clicking on the file in the search window and choosing "download" again.
I never did get Share to give me much, but I have used WinNY very happily for a couple of years. However, I think our Japanese benefactors are starting now to make the move to PD, because of recent events, so I am, too.
I'm sorry I can't really answer people's questions, since it seemed a miracle to me when the thing started working properly. One thing I did was to manually upload some big files to get the unity cache over 2 Gb to start. You have to add keywords for each file you upload (Japanese keywords, hopefully). And you should review every file you download: click the "complete" tab and then right-click each completed file and rank it, especially for being what it purports to be. That's the big advantage of PD: you can see whether other people approved of the file or not before you go to the trouble of downloading it.
I don't see any equivalent of Share's and WinNY's clusters, just keywords. I suspect it makes sense to tree your keywords, with general categories of things at the top level, sub-categories under that, and individual files after that.
JCafe is the place to go for a tutorial.
Hmmm, sounds like it is best to dedicate some poor 3rd machine to this puppy rather than have it annoy you on the old game machine or work machine.
The-Cursed
2008-05-15, 15:06
It takes up a lot of RAM (about 90Mb right now) but only a couple of percent of CPU. And of course there's that massive cache folder "unity." Mine's up to about 9Gb now, after three weeks or so. I plan to let it get to 20Gb rather than 40Gb and trim it after that. We'll see.
Your current downloads are stored in the "unity" folder too, so it donīt seem a good idea to trim it :),and PD detects if some file on the unity folder is deleted , i donīt know if it breaks everything if you remove something or not( but you can break pieces of your download if you do ). need to test a little more at home.
Here PD donīt use more than 30Mb of ram ( been running for 6 hours )
I myself remember deleting stuff from the unity folder to trim it down, and nothing bad happened.
Meh, my unity directory is never over 5GB, I gave it a harddrive of its own. Running PD in wine is fine, the fonts are pretty decently sized for me, and overall it runs well. Just the occasional ram and cpu flood for 3 seconds once an hour or so, otherwise its fine.
E~
Mine eats up the entire 40gb like a snack ;o
Quarkboy
2008-06-05, 10:46
I've started to like perfect dark now. Not only did I find a few HD raws I lost in a RAID snafu that were reasonably old, bit I downloaded lossless rips of nearly all the Reitaisai 5 CD releases (about 11 GB worth) in about 2 hours.
I think the userbase probably quadrupled since the share arrests... In any case my unity is 40 GB, and it takes little cpu and easily hits speeds of 4-5 MB/s on my fiber, but then again I'm IN tokyo, so your speeds may vary.
PD certainly is getting quicker on the draw in comparison to Share with regard to how long it takes for files to appear.
So Share died, and PD is the new thang, supposedly. Why in the hell is it using 50% CPU on average, though? Is there something wrong with my installation? I'd get it if it was hashing up files or something from the upload directory, but I'm not even doing anything. It has somehow managed to use up 3h26m of CPU time on a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo in 3h15m (dual core, though, so roughly 50% constant use). This seems insane.
Quoting myself is a bit weird, but I figured out why it ate so much CPU -- I was using a bandwidth limiter to keep it down to 15kb/s upload. Once I removed that cap (after getting an upgraded internet connection) CPU usage dropped to 1-4%.
fireshark
2008-06-14, 22:27
lots of the files were labelled shareより but i guess that changed since the arrests
So I got a problem. I've had this problem ever since getting my wireless router (WNR834M) last August. I used to be able to download stuff from winny and share, no problem, but ever since I got this wireless router, its been denying me access to download files from winny and share. And now, I have the same problem with perfect dark, always telling me that an open port is NOT confirmed. How do I fix this issue? Is it the wireless router?
Most likely, you should take a look at your router's port forwarding and enable the ports that you have specified in your p2p programs. Link (http://www.portforward.com/default.htm).
Hi.
I finally got the status message "Perfect dark is online".
I start the program and it automatically start downloading something to "unity" folder.
The program prompt that it'll continue building the "unity" folder until it reach 2.0GB. Before that, I won't be able to download anything(that I choose manually).
So I run it overnight. The download/upload rate bounces between 0-50kb/sec.
My settings: 1.0Mbps ADSL
100kb/s bandwidth limit
It's been 10 hours now.
The info windows says...
Total send: around 300MB
Total receive: around 300MB also
But...
unity size: 16MB / 40960MB
Question: Is there a way to increase the unity size faster?
Please note that I'm no pre-teens who'll say "OMG I can't wait to download something PLZ let me know how to speed-up this unitiy build"
Well I just curious if there's any good methods. It's ok if there's none though, I'll just wait.
Thanks in advance. =)
Quarkboy
2008-06-28, 03:02
Hi.
I finally got the status message "Perfect dark is online".
I start the program and it automatically start downloading something to "unity" folder.
The program prompt that it'll continue building the "unity" folder until it reach 2.0GB. Before that, I won't be able to download anything(that I choose manually).
So I run it overnight. The download/upload rate bounces between 0-50kb/sec.
My settings: 1.0Mbps ADSL
100kb/s bandwidth limit
It's been 10 hours now.
The info windows says...
Total send: around 300MB
Total receive: around 300MB also
But...
unity size: 16MB / 40960MB
Question: Is there a way to increase the unity size faster?
Please note that I'm no pre-teens who'll say "OMG I can't wait to download something PLZ let me know how to speed-up this unitiy build"
Well I just curious if there's any good methods. It's ok if there's none though, I'll just wait.
Thanks in advance. =)
Is your upload limit also 100 Kb/s, i.e. is your line symmetrical?
Also, do you mean 100 KBytes/s or 100 Kbits? 100 Kbits is far too slow for perfect dark.
Perfect dark requires a pretty fast internet connection, otherwise peers don't like to send to you (or receive from you).
Ideally you should have at least 200 KBytes/s upload/download, the faster the better.
The good news is, you CAN download when your unity folder isn't more than 2 GB. It's just at a lower priority and your speeds will be poor. But feel free to search and add things to your queue.
dj_tjerk
2008-06-28, 05:12
but 16MB overnight.. and 300MB download.. sounds like you have a problem there :P But you mentioned the download reaches 50kB/s.. if it stayed at 0-1kB/s you might've had a dual core problem (solve it by going to task manager -> right click on perfectdark.exe -> set affinity to one of the cores). You can always try that approach just to be certain it's not that problem..
Is your upload limit also 100 Kb/s, i.e. is your line symmetrical?
Also, do you mean 100 KBytes/s or 100 Kbits? 100 Kbits is far too slow for perfect dark.
Perfect dark requires a pretty fast internet connection, otherwise peers don't like to send to you (or receive from you).
Ideally you should have at least 200 KBytes/s upload/download, the faster the better.
The good news is, you CAN download when your unity folder isn't more than 2 GB. It's just at a lower priority and your speeds will be poor. But feel free to search and add things to your queue.
Thank you for the reply.
My connection is 2048 / 512 kbps
meaning 200 kilo bytes / sec Download speed
and 50 kilo bytes / sec Upload speed
I read from some source that PD require atleast 100 kilo bytes of upload speed, but I try with 2048 / 512 anyway. =)
(actually there's no ISP offering more than 512kbps upload in my region)
Here comes my questions again... =)
1. Just curious but, in my case, what should I set in the "internet connection" box in PD settings? (There're 512kbps, 1.0Mbps, 1.5Mbps and 4.0Mbps available)
2. What if I upload something manually? Forexample some 3.0GB iso. Will it add to unity?
Thank you again.
but 16MB overnight.. and 300MB download.. sounds like you have a problem there :P But you mentioned the download reaches 50kB/s.. if it stayed at 0-1kB/s you might've had a dual core problem (solve it by going to task manager -> right click on perfectdark.exe -> set affinity to one of the cores). You can always try that approach just to be certain it's not that problem..
Thanks for the reply.
I'm on a single core. =)
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
cyberbeing
2008-06-28, 13:36
Question: Is there a way to increase the unity size faster?
The fastest way is to add your own stuff to the unity. If you're like me and have a lot of stuff which was downloaded from Winny or Share, just pick 40GB of it and add it to your unity (while making sure to tag it correctly in Japanese with clusters).
Look at the JCafe post under "adding files" if you don't already know how to do this:
http://jcafe.vnmanga.com/index.php/topic,518.0.html
Considering that Perfect Dark will automatically delete parts of the Unity when it gets too big, there is really no disadvantage to doing this other than you have to allocate 40GB on your drive for it. When your Unity is maxed out it should only download things you have queued and very rarely the random things it likes to fill the Unity with. If you care about your bandwidth usage and don't want it max out your connection downloading 40GB of worthless cache, this is definitely the way to go.
Thank you for the solution.
I've added more than 2.0GB of stuff(downloaded from Share long time ago).
My unity immediately reached 2+ GB now.
Currently, PD still download nothing of my request. (0% downloaded) But it should download something soon(hopefully).
Anyway, I've another questions.
1.In the download window, my "Status" column display this message -> "('-w-')zZz"
for every entry in the queue.
Am I doing something wrong?
2.Some download entry have red background, some have black. What is the meaning of this?
Thanks again. :)
Quarkboy
2008-06-28, 15:39
Thank you for the solution.
I've added more than 2.0GB of stuff(downloaded from Share long time ago).
My unity immediately reached 2+ GB now.
Currently, PD still download nothing of my request. (0% downloaded) But it should download something soon(hopefully).
Anyway, I've another questions.
1.In the download window, my "Status" column display this message -> "('-w-')zZz"
for every entry in the queue.
Am I doing something wrong?
2.Some download entry have red background, some have black. What is the meaning of this?
Thanks again. :)
Those downsloads with the sleep symbol just mean "queued" of "inactive" (or maybe "can't find a peer with it")... I'm not really sure, but it's normal. They should download eventually assuming the file exists on the network.
As for the red backgrounds, I've never been able to figure out what the heck that meant. It doesn't seem to effect whether files complete or not. Anyone know?
cyberbeing
2008-06-28, 16:44
There is one thing in the changelog which seems to be the reason for the red backgrounds:
情報が更新されると、ダウンロードリストや履歴が赤く表示されます。
Which translates to: When information is updated, the download list and the history are displayed in red.
While not very descriptive, one of the things which it seems to be related to is when the rating statistics and reviews are updated to show how many good/bad/undefined ratings there are. By right clicking and then clicking on View, it will show you some information about the download in the history section and the red background will then disappear for that download. This makes sense because you have then viewed the updated information and it's no longer new.
When the search tree turns red it's because you've gone over 65536 search results and it will no longer add anymore results until you delete enough search terms to bring the results below 65536.
Even today, I'm still stunned by how quickly PD builds fills a unity folder.
Thanks for the replies.
Here comes another question lol. Sorry there's no help file available no I have no choice but to continue asking here.
In the download view, what does "Count" means?
Quarkboy
2008-07-01, 14:16
Thanks for the replies.
Here comes another question lol. Sorry there's no help file available no I have no choice but to continue asking here.
In the download view, what does "Count" means?
Not sure exactly what it counts, but it's a measure of how widespread the file is on the network. The higher the more common. It might count number of complete versions, similar to the total "complete copies" number for torrents, or perhaps it's simply the number of peers with at least SOME part of the file...
Basically you can assume that the higher the count is, the more popular the file is.
BluWacky
2008-07-02, 04:49
Is Perfect Dark really replacing Share? Even with everyone apparently jumping ship from Share I still find newer files appearing on Share faster (I've yet to ever actually find anything to download on PD before it appears on Bittorrent!).
Am I just doing it wrong? I used to have good raw search-fu but these days I seem to have gotten crap at it...
Lately, I've just been getting a lot of fakes from Share after broadcast. Even though PD isn't a stranger to them, I find it more reliable nonetheless. I think it's a matter of shows and occasions on which network files appear faster.
I've got good search results from PD. May be because I was not focusing on the new stuff, I use bittorrent for new stuff instead.
And it seems(to me) that PD need a 2.0GB of "pure" unity before the manual d/l will have higher priority than automated d/l.
"pure unity" means the unity build up from the automated upload. (and not from your manual upload)
Why do I say this? because I used the upload function and fill my unity upto 2.0GB, but PD still download so little bytes even I left it over night.
BTW, what does "partial download" actually do?
cyberbeing
2008-07-02, 12:57
I've got good search results from PD. May be because I was not focusing on the new stuff, I use bittorrent for new stuff instead.
And it seems(to me) that PD need a 2.0GB of "pure" unity before the manual d/l will have higher priority than automated d/l.
"pure unity" means the unity build up from the automated upload. (and not from your manual upload)
Why do I say this? because I used the upload function and fill my unity upto 2.0GB, but PD still download so little bytes even I left it over night.
BTW, what does "partial download" actually do?
That is why I said to fill it up to 40GB (the maximum Unity size). Perfect dark will always try to fill the extra space in your unity if there is space to fill. Even with downloads having a higher priority, if there is no sources to download from then the lower priority unity download will commence.
I assume partial download will just try to assemble what you have already downloaded of the file and output a incomplete file.
zvx1232003
2008-07-23, 14:37
Share doesn't work on Vista here...o_O
I paste a nodes list on and click "Add",
But when I go out click "Show Sleep Nodes", all the nodes is in "sleep".
btw, I can't add cluster either...
It's because my Vista or some other reasons...?
please help >_<
fireshark
2008-07-24, 07:08
PD doesn't do clusters.
I leave my PD on overnight and when I come back it's 11GB ;___;
then again, i am in tokyo right now
PD doesn't do clusters.
I leave my PD on overnight and when I come back it's 11GB ;___;
then again, i am in tokyo right now
PD was created to accommodate the gigabit connections and terabyte hard drives that are now pretty commonplace in Japan.
Quarkboy
2008-07-24, 09:31
PD was created to accommodate the gigabit connections and terabyte hard drives that are now pretty commonplace in Japan.
Uh, well let's not exaggerate.
The highest speed internet you can get normally is 100 Mbit, not 1Gbit, since even if you have a direct connection to a Gbit fiber line it's shared and you connect with cat 5e or VDSL lines with maximum speeds of 100 Mbit. To get a full 1Gbit line would require a business-level ISP contract and be extremely expensive, plus would also require your own dedicated fiber line which would cost $1000s of dollars to install.
And hard drives are no bigger or cheaper in Japan than they are in the US. Heck I still buy Seagate and/or maxwell HD's here in Tokyo since they are the cheapest and most reliable OEMs I can get.
So to set the record straight most people in Tokyo have 10 Mbit-100 Mbit connections over DSL or shared fiber connections, with computers that are no more powerful than US computers.
Obviously, Japanese aren't getting "more powerful computers" than USA's... because they use computers whose processors (CPU and GPU)--the main building block of computers--are designed in Americas. The fabrication plants are in Asia though.
fireshark
2008-07-27, 07:41
PD was created to accommodate the gigabit connections and terabyte hard drives that are now pretty commonplace in Japan.
PD was created to force share things and also as an alternative to Share which just got bot'd. It's as if a fatal security flaw was uncovered in BitTorrent which showed all the peers of a torrent... oh, wait...
I wonder where he got that idea in the first place >_>;. (+1 for responding to a post that's a few months old)
Stupid question but...
Have auto-download triggers made it into PD yet?
Nope. Not that you really need it; things don't show up and then disappear from your search results the way they do in Share. I suppose it would be convenient to auto-download, but when you can actually trust the search results, it's pretty simple to just check if something new has showed up every few hours or so.
Quarkboy
2008-10-12, 22:09
Nope. Not that you really need it; things don't show up and then disappear from your search results the way they do in Share. I suppose it would be convenient to auto-download, but when you can actually trust the search results, it's pretty simple to just check if something new has showed up every few hours or so.
Yeah, PD's search function works like what happens if you set up a trigger in Share and click "save to DB only". It keeps track of anything you see for the entire session.
andy_blah
2008-10-25, 05:31
A noob question here: Do I have to upload something in order to be able to download something? If so then, I'm doomed because of low disk space T.T
cyberbeing
2008-10-25, 06:09
Perfect Dark will automatically download (you can also add things to cache manually) 2GB of cache (Unity) before it will let you download anything you specify. Eventually Perfect Dark will fill the 40GB minimum cache it sets (and it gets upset if you delete it) with your downloads and other random things, so if you don't have at least 40GB of free space to dedicate to its cache, Perfect Dark is not for you.
andy_blah
2008-10-25, 06:15
Ah, that's too bad, I was amazed of how many RAWs I found with it in contrast with Share, unfortunately my HDD has a capacity of 40GB only T.T
Thank-you for your reply tho ^_^
cyberbeing
2008-10-25, 06:25
Well I guess you could probably use it until your disk starts becoming full and then just delete everything and start over, but I'm not sure how efficient that would be.
andy_blah
2008-10-25, 06:30
Yes, but anything that I add on the download list does not start, as in Share, only some times when I get lucky downloading with 100-150kB/sec. Is it supposed to do that (because of offline users) or there is something wrong going on?
cyberbeing
2008-10-25, 06:40
Perfect Dark sometimes takes a lot longer then Share for downloads to start and complete. As with all Japanese P2P (Winny, Share, Perfect Dark) if you're not lucky enough to connect to a person that has the file you want (a problem in particular for older and less popular files) it may stay incomplete indefinitely, and that should be viewed as normal. Other times the person you connect to won't have the full file and just send you parts, which is also normal. If say a brand new raw of a popular show appears shortly after airing in Japan and you're not able to at least begin downloading it from anybody within a day or so, then you may have some other issue.
andy_blah
2008-10-25, 07:02
I have added some files to the cache folder, and it still says that it has to download 2GB of cache. In this case should I "refresh"(to clean the folder besides the files I placed there) the cache? I assume that I have to place those files to the root of the cache folder, right?
cyberbeing
2008-10-25, 07:14
First click information tab, then click the upload file button. From there click add and select your file(s). If possible you should also tag them correctly in Japanese. Afterwards click Upload and Perfect Dark will encrypt and add them to the cache (Unity). Moving files directly to the unity folder will not work.
andy_blah
2008-10-25, 07:25
Oh, my bad, by saying to add cache manually I was thinking of moving some files, silly me :heh:
This would mean for those files to occupy 2 times the space on the disk *sigh*
And let's say that the download finishes, will I have to do something after that?
And also I wanted to ask if .iso files are safe to be downloading ?(they have the size of a DVD, so I suppose that they have good content)
Doughnuts
2008-10-25, 09:58
When a download finishes, the download will also take up double space on the disk, since it'll remain in the unity too. The reason the cache needs to duplicate files is because they're pre-encrypted before being transferred.
iso files are usually safe to download, but there's always chance they can be fake or contain malware. Sometimes you might see in your search results people will upload junk text files named with a copy of the file name followed by 偽物 to indicate the file in question is a fake. An iso can't execute anthing on your machine, so you're safe to just download them, but after the iso image is burnt to a disc, there's chance that it could contain malware etc. If the image is a DVD video, it's safe, but if it contains binaries there's a chance they could be malware. If you're paranoid run a virus scanner (and disable autorun of course)
andy_blah
2008-10-25, 10:09
Yes, in the meantime I have documented myself and found out that PD encript files and uploads/downloads them by this way, and now I can understand why it does this duplication, tho it is quite wastefull, but probably encurages japanese people to share without the fear to be caught and thrown in prison ^_^
Also found out that it can generate a preview of what it downloaded, and for me, that's an SMASHING feauture :D
Thank-you both for the information, and I will come back if I have other queries
comatose
2008-10-25, 10:25
Is there a way to send a message to the person who originally added a file, so I can thank him, for example?
I guess not, since people send messages through files (e.g. the txts with "fake" at the end)
You visit their board, Thank You Board, or simply write it on the "flow"
comatose
2008-10-25, 23:38
Thanks! [too short]
andy_blah
2008-10-30, 12:01
Is it normal for this program to show that it is downloading (with ~110kb/sec) and no progress is shown? It started happening for about an hour ago.
Here is a snapshot:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h41/andy_blah/Perfectdark.png?t=1225386016
Also, can somebody tell me why some of those downloads appear in red?
cyberbeing
2008-10-30, 13:55
Yes, it is normal for it to download without showing progress. It will occasionally download random things to the Unity (so you have more things to upload to other people) until it fills up the 40GB.
As for the red highlighting, see this post: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1686437&postcount=150
andy_blah
2008-10-30, 14:09
Thank-you for the explanation. Tho about the random download, does it affect the speed of my downloads? Is it possible to disable it?
fict_ticious
2008-10-30, 22:47
Thank-you for the explanation. Tho about the random download, does it affect the speed of my downloads? Is it possible to disable it?
No, because it's the framework that keeps PD running. It shouldn't affect the speed of your downloads, though - provided that your unity is a certain size.
andy_blah
2008-10-31, 04:40
I see, thank-you for that too
neothe0ne
2008-11-30, 21:51
Can anyone running Vista x64 or Server 2008 x64 verify if Perfect Dark, Share, and/or Winny works for them?
dj_tjerk
2008-12-01, 03:50
PD works fine, and I think share did too (it's been a while since I last used that on my laptop with x64; it works fine on win2003 x64 though)
D4RK-PH0ENiX
2008-12-01, 05:07
Can anyone running Vista x64 or Server 2008 x64 verify if Perfect Dark, Share, and/or Winny works for them?
yes, it works. I'm running share, winny and perfect dark from 2 machines with Vista x64 SP1
I just recently got PD (and Share) running here, and it's nice ^^. I still don't have my unity at 40GB yet, but it's connecting all right (I have no idea why this didn't work for me months ago .___.;
So, just confirming, I can increase my unity size by reuploading stuff from Share?
[darkfire]
2008-12-08, 23:56
I have perfect dark running fine on Windows 7 Pre-Beta
neothe0ne
2008-12-15, 17:13
Uh is it just my internet, or did a bunch of items disappear off pd? A bunch of search queries I have saved are now showing 0 items when there ought to be hundreds...
Quarkboy
2008-12-16, 06:00
Uh is it just my internet, or did a bunch of items disappear off pd? A bunch of search queries I have saved are now showing 0 items when there ought to be hundreds...
That seems highly improbable/impossible. Perhaps your cache or search history files are corrupted... Either that or you're not connecting to the network properly.
cyberbeing
2008-12-18, 14:03
That seems highly improbable/impossible. Perhaps your cache or search history files are corrupted... Either that or you're not connecting to the network properly.
I have seen that happen occasionally myself. Perfect Dark seems to reset the search results back to zero after awhile, but then it just does all the searches again from scratch and quickly builds up search results once again. If your not building up results again, then like Quarkboy said, you may have a problem connecting to the Perfect Dark network.
I assume this is by design to clear out files no one on Perfect Dark (who is currently online) has anymore. With the 1000 result limit per search term and the 65535 max search result limit, doing this makes sense.
neothe0ne
2008-12-19, 13:38
I have seen that happen occasionally myself. Perfect Dark seems to reset the search results back to zero after awhile, but then it just does all the searches again from scratch and quickly builds up search results once again. If your not building up results again, then like Quarkboy said, you may have a problem connecting to the Perfect Dark network.
I assume this is by design to clear out files no one on Perfect Dark (who is currently online) has anymore. With the 1000 result limit per search term and the 65535 max search result limit, doing this makes sense.
It's all good now, just that I never knew PD would clear out the search history after a while.
On another note... I foresee bad things happening to the message flow in the future. I can't believe people have nowhere better to spout their baseless ideological bullshit than on pd's flow.
I'm noticing PD has trouble converting to files for me. Downloads are getting to 100% and then the logger is displaying "download error code - 2" If I right click and select conver to file the error message repeats. Any ideas?
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cyberbeing
2009-01-09, 00:03
Are you using Perfect Dark with a FAT32 drive? Also are you using the latest version, 1.02?
1.02 yes, and ext3. I typo'd the language parameter for starting PD was the problem. Wine users: For files with japanese names that are longer than 16 characters, run it with LANG=en_US.UTF-8, NOT ja_JP.UTF-8
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Wine users: For files with japanese names that are longer than 16 characters, run it with LANG=en_US.UTF-8, NOT ja_JP.UTF-8
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Will not that just show you square boxes (or w/e) instead of Japanese characters? Well, I've been running with the latter on my setup without any problems...
Will not that just show you square boxes (or w/e) instead of Japanese characters? Well, I've been running with the latter on my setup without any problems...
UTF-8 is UTF-8, so as long as your font(s) support Japanese (kana) and Chinese (kanji) codepoints, it should be all right.
Oh right... must have something wrong/missing here then.
interesting. i thought the japanese locale was needed.
I thought so too, however with a font supporting japanese characters I have no trouble. When running with locale as japanese, PD was unable to write files to harddisk. If I set it to en_US, it is able to write as well as display, and I have no idea why. This could just be on my debian server though, as on my desktop I still use ja_JP, although that has other problems.
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andy_blah
2009-01-29, 05:24
I had a file (4GB T.T) that finished downloading just a few minutes ago, and had the power went off while it was converting (to file), now when the computer started after that, the download was at 99% and wasn't downloading any longer, and when tried to convert it to file, it only had 3.88GB, what should I do now to fix this?, I don't want to download the file again T.T
Right click it int he download tab, mark it for download, and it should resume.
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Burning questions.
1. Has PD development stalled for good?
2. Are there any scripts or plugins that allow for triggers?
andy_blah
2009-01-29, 09:24
Right click it int he download tab, mark it for download, and it should resume.
E~
Thank-you, it worked! ^_^
Does anybody know what's that "Partial Download" does and what are those counts?
neothe0ne
2009-01-29, 16:04
Uh I'm having a download code error 2 now as well, but I'm using Windows and I've never had such a problem before.
file さよなら絶望先生 特装版4(iso+mds+rr3%).rar アニメ DVDISO 071226 連絡は私のボードまで @YCN=Mrq5TkWbKTH5S+JMg+S6cNeX0-1 5,449,395,917 cfe29fab2b7fa77a79090e6027a9490151b163c6892802144d 43405dde8cb852
I've downloaded lots of files dvd images before, all with Japanese characters, and even files with the percent sign as well. Why would this one file not working out?
Uh I'm having a download code error 2 now as well, but I'm using Windows and I've never had such a problem before.
file さよなら絶望先生 特装版4(iso+mds+rr3%).rar アニメ DVDISO 071226 連絡は私のボードまで @YCN=Mrq5TkWbKTH5S+JMg+S6cNeX0-1 5,449,395,917 cfe29fab2b7fa77a79090e6027a9490151b163c6892802144d 43405dde8cb852
I've downloaded lots of files dvd images before, all with Japanese characters, and even files with the percent sign as well. Why would this one file not working out?
I only had this happen in linux and after moving my linux unity to windows. It seems to be caused by PD not being able to write to disk. Either hardspace, character encoding, or permissions are the most likely culprits. I still haven't found a proper fix for it yet though. Check your space/permissions/encoding and see if that changes anything. PD needs a 'download as' function to give it a different name, but that defeats the purpose of P2P really.
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I tend to get similar errors on Share. If you run Share on a virtual machine, the cache must be on a fat32 or ntfs partition, not ext2/ext3/ext4.
Itachikun
2009-02-04, 22:24
noobish question, but how long till I actually get to start downloading files? It's been up for almost two days just downloading to the unity... but then the unity size hasn't changed yet and it's still downloading.
Just wanting to make sure if I did anything wrong. Thanks!
andy_blah
2009-02-07, 06:51
I moved some files out of the unity folder (to check if they are the unity cache of one of my downloads, so I would know if I can delete them) and found out that one of them was of one download, and that download entry was at 0% (as expected). I placed them back and the download entry was still at 0%, is there any way to fix this? (I still have the unity cache file)
Next time when I do the moving operation, what should I do to avoid this?
You shouldn't mess with the unity folder at all.
andy_blah
2009-02-07, 07:15
I have to, I have a small HDD.
Quarkboy
2009-02-07, 23:59
I have to, I have a small HDD.
In that case you STILL shouldn't mess with it. The proper way to delete things from your unity folder is to change the settings for the unity size in you options. If you run out of space, set the max unity size smaller and it will automatically delete the oldest things from the folder for you.
andy_blah
2009-02-08, 05:06
I will try that next time when I will have to do this, thank-you for the suggestion.
andy_blah
2009-02-08, 06:27
Just found a way you can safely test if those cache files to see if they are of your downloads, or just some random files downloaded by PD, firstly this is what you need to do:
First, back-up all the files in the unity folder that are less than 10MB (just to be sure), after that, back-up the PD folder (if you have the unity folder in a sub-folder, don't archive it with the rest of the PD folder!), and move the unity file that you suspect that isn't one of your downloads.
Hope it helps
I'm going to repeat this for the third time.
Don't mess with the unity folder.
No buts. No excuses. If you have too small of a harddrive, you're not qualified to use PD. It's that simple. PD was created with assumption that people now have bigger harddrives. "I can't afford another HD now." is not a valid excuse here. Software minimum requirements (http://www21.atwiki.jp/botubotubotubotu/pages/13.html#id_cf401cca) specifies minimum of 40GB of free space for unity.
neothe0ne
2009-02-11, 16:12
How does the unity auto-deletion work? I'm convinced part of my download of a 5gb DVDISO is corrupted so I can't convert the 100% download into a working file (error 2).
Also, is there any significant advantage to having a larger unity? I've increased mine to 75gb but filled it much quicker than anticipated.
Quarkboy
2009-02-11, 16:39
How does the unity auto-deletion work? I'm convinced part of my download of a 5gb DVDISO is corrupted so I can't convert the 100% download into a working file (error 2).
Also, is there any significant advantage to having a larger unity? I've increased mine to 75gb but filled it much quicker than anticipated.
Above a certain size (20 GB, I think) there isn't too much benefit to having a larger unity file.
The only exception is if you are trying to download files all at once that total a larger size than your max unity size, in which case you have to either download them one by one or increase the size (yes, I did download more than 20 GB of files at once one time...)
The other benefit is that with a larger unity you are a better "source" for other clients to connect to to download from. So for example say you're interested in "touhou doujinshi" and you have 80 GB of it in your unity file, you're pretty much going to have a very easy time finding and downloading anything having to do with touhou doujinshi. But your upload speed is really more of a bottleneck than anything else. Also if your unity folder is filled with things that are autodownloaded then you have no idea what kind of stuff you might benefit from having a large unity folder of.
So basically what I'm saying is the only reason to have a unity folder larger than 20-30 GB is if you are actually downloading more than 20-30 GB of one particular type of thing. Otherwise the extra space gets filled with random junk that won't increase your download or search speeds.
I'm convinced part of my download of a 5gb DVDISO is corrupted so I can't convert the 100% download into a working file (error 2).PD is unable to write the filename, whether it's due to permissions, the number of characters, or the filesystem is incapable of the characters in the name (sometimes happens with WINE and using jp_JA.utf8)
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PD is unable to write the filename, whether it's due to permissions, the number of characters, or the filesystem is incapable of the characters in the name (sometimes happens with WINE and using jp_JA.utf8)
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always and forever.
LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine ~/dark/perfect\ dark.exe
neothe0ne
2009-02-16, 18:52
PD is unable to write the filename, whether it's due to permissions, the number of characters, or the filesystem is incapable of the characters in the name (sometimes happens with WINE and using jp_JA.utf8)
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As I've already said or implied,
1) It's not permissions, I don't have problems with other downloads and no antivirus or other programs could be messing with the file/folder
2) It's not the number of characters (I've downloaded files with longer names)
3) It's not the characters (I've downloaded files with the same characters)
4) I'm running on Windows with NTFS.
That's why I'm convinced it's corrupted, though you're free to suggest other likely problems... (i settled for some dumb wmv raw in the meantime)
JediNight
2009-02-20, 00:29
Just trying out PD for the first time here. It's built the unity cache up to 2.4gb now ... should I still not expect to really get any downloads until the cache is 10-20gb+?
It's been a few hours since I reached the 2gb cache it said I needed to receive priority on downloads, and I have like 4% of the video only.
For me, 2-4 GB is the butter zone.
JediNight
2009-02-20, 12:35
Well it's at 87% on a 1.8gb .TS now after like 12-14hrs on a 10mbit connection =\
Quarkboy
2009-02-21, 10:47
Well it's at 87% on a 1.8gb .TS now after like 12-14hrs on a 10mbit connection =\
Depending on how old the TS file is it might take a long time to download.
They don't have very good retention since they're do damn big, so after a week or so grabbing them takes a long time.
andy_blah
2009-02-26, 09:09
I have recently got that message that it has to download 2GB of cache before the manual downloads have priority, even tho my unity folder's size is of about 11GB. What's wrong with PD?
Quarkboy
2009-02-26, 10:15
I have recently got that message that it has to download 2GB of cache before the manual downloads have priority, even tho my unity folder's size is of about 11GB. What's wrong with PD?
Are you running vista? I've had that happen to me if I tried to run it as administrator or not because it looks in a different place for its config files.
andy_blah
2009-02-26, 10:37
I use Windows XP and Perfect Dark 1.020. I have't done anything other than to defragment ~.~
Hmmm. Why do I keep getting "unity deletion detected" messages?
Hmmm. Why do I keep getting "unity deletion detected" messages?
Don't mess with the unity? hurr hurr
Don't mess with the unity? hurr hurr
I don't touch it.
Maybe PD doesn't like Wine or NTFS on Virtualbox?
I don't see why it wouldn't like NTFS under VBox, but I've never gotten that message under Wine unless I did touch the unity files myself.
andy_blah
2009-02-27, 10:33
Just wanted to point out (since nobody answered my question), that Perfect Dark still does manual download even tho that message appears, it might be just a lousy bug after all
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-20, 23:44
Hate to reopen this topic but I'm in dire need of assistance. I recently downloaded Perfect Dark 1.02 and followed the instructions given to me but I keep getting the message "perfect dark online. open port NOT confirmed" I checked my Firewall and it's listed as an exception and I tried PFConfig software and that didn't help, so what am I doing wrong since I'm at the end of my rope here.
You probably haven't opened the port on your router.
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-21, 12:04
You probably haven't opened the port on your router.
How do I do that?
metamorphic
2009-03-21, 12:37
How do I do that?
This site has a list of various routers and helpful instructions: http://portforward.com/.
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-21, 13:03
This site has a list of various routers and helpful instructions: http://portforward.com/.
So what's the service name for Perfect Dark and what's the global port range?
You set the port number for Perfect Dark, there's no reserved number.
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-21, 13:17
You set the port number for Perfect Dark, there's no reserved number.
I'm sorry I'm not following you :eyespin:
It's asking me for a service name and global port number to forward it so am I in the wrong application or what?
The "service name" your router is asking for is probably a name for your sake, so you can remember what it was used for that forward. It has no effect on the actual forwarding. (Just put "perfect dark" or "pd".)
For port number, there is one single (TCP) port you need to forward, and you can configure that inside PD. Click on the Settings button and on the first page (General) look in the Port field. You can change it if you want to, but you don't need to do that.
(Oh and btw., orange Comic Sans MS is very ugly, consider that each and every of your posts look very silly as long as you use that typeface.)
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-21, 13:40
The "service name" your router is asking for is probably a name for your sake, so you can remember what it was used for that forward. It has no effect on the actual forwarding. (Just put "perfect dark" or "pd".)
For port number, there is one single (TCP) port you need to forward, and you can configure that inside PD. Click on the Settings button and on the first page (General) look in the Port field. You can change it if you want to, but you don't need to do that.
(Oh and btw., orange Comic Sans MS is very ugly, consider that each and every of your posts look very silly as long as you use that typeface.)
Ouch! :(
Okay, it's still showing up open port NOT confirmed, do I need the Global Port Range?
Try the following addresses and see if a webpage shows up.
http://192.168.0.1
http://192.168.1.1
http://192.168.0.254
http://192.168.1.254
http://192.168.100.1
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-21, 14:14
Try the following addresses.
http://192.168.0.1
http://192.168.1.1
http://192.168.0.254
http://192.168.1.254
http://192.168.100.1
The second to last one worked now I went to NAT/Gaming and made one named Perfect Dark, I put the port number as my Base home port what about the global port range? but insert 7002 for both options and it's still saying open port NOT confirmed.
1. Did you try disabling the Windows firewall and modem's firewall completely?
2. Is there a router in your house? Do multiple computers use that modem to get online?
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-21, 18:16
1. Did you try disabling the Windows firewall and modem's firewall completely?
2. Is there a router in your house? Do multiple computers use that modem to get online?
1.) Yes, Perfect Dark is listed as an exception in Windows firewall and my modem's firewall is off.
2.) There are only two computers at my house and we both have a separate modem.
Disable the Windows firewall completely. It usually helps.
FruitsPunchSamurai
2009-03-22, 01:10
Disable the Windows firewall completely. It usually helps.
Will it go online automatically or do I have to repeat the process from the beginning?
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