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NeoSam
2008-03-14, 13:42
The boy's (shounen) light novel series CHROME SHELLED REGIOS by Amagi Shuusuke (author) and Miyuu (illustrator) is planned to get an anime adaptation.

鋼殻のレギオス
Koukaku no Regios
CHROME SHELLED REGIOS

Fujimi Shobo's site for the light novel series:
http://www.fujimishobo.co.jp/sp/regios/

Official anime site:
http://anime.webnt.jp/regios/

少年向け小説(ライトノベル)
Light novel series for boys.

The light novel series is published under the shounen light novel label Fujimi Fantasia Bunko (http://www.comipedia.com/light-novel-label/fujimi-fantasia-bunko), and the CHROME SHELLED REGIOS short story is serialized in the young men's light novel magazine Dragon Magazine (http://comipedia.com/magazine/dragon-magazine).

Currently there are 10 volumes released of this light novel series.
Covers:


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8462/200512000167ku4.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6889/200603000058yo5.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4469/200604000055hd8.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2226/200607000049hf6.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6889/200610000092ew3.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4378/200702000397hl9.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7563/200708000144qu0.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4932/200710000286uf3.jpg http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6717/200802000492ps1.jpg http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2373/200802000493gu4.jpg


Author: Amagi Shuusuke
Illustrator: Miyuu

Three shounen manga adaptations of the light novel series are running in 2 manga magazines, two manga are running in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age (http://www.comipedia.com/magazine/dragon-age), and one manga is running in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age Pure (http://www.comipedia.com/magazine/dragon-age-pure).

Manga:
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CHROME SHELLED REGIOS manga is running in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age Pure (http://www.comipedia.com/magazine/dragon-age-pure) since April 2007, with currently 1 volume released:


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5298/200708000488ie0.jpg


Shounen manga.
Original Work: Amagi Shuusuke
Drawing: Miyuu

CHROME SHELLED REGIOS MISSING MAIL manga is running in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age (http://www.comipedia.com/magazine/dragon-age) since June 2007, with currently 2 volumes released:


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9822/32052353jn2.jpg http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1181/200806000034cy1.jpg


Shounen manga.
Original Work: Amagi Shuusuke
Drawing: Kiyose Nodoka

Feri no Uta 4-panel manga will start running in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age (http://www.comipedia.com/magazine/dragon-age) on November 8th, 2008.

Shounen manga.
Original Work: Amagi Shuusuke
Drawn by: Futaba Masumi

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A science fiction light novel series set in a past world of "Chrome Shelled Regios" light novel series also started. This light novel series is titled: LEGEND of REGIOS (レジェンド・オブ・レギオス). Its authored/illustrated by the same author/illustrator of the "Chrome Shelled Regios" light novel series. This light novel series is published by Fujimi Shobo under their light novel label: Style-F (http://www.comipedia.com/light-novel-label/style-f).

Currently 3 volumes are released of this light novel series:
Covers:


http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3728/31914888tj1.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4228/32000984np1.jpg http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/885/200806000054aq2.jpg


Genre: Shounen, Fantasy

MrProphet
2008-03-14, 18:55
What's it about?

A typical shounen adventure, or something worth looking into?

Westlo
2008-03-14, 19:05
The covers look interesting but I'll like to see a synopsis to see if it's anything worth getting excited about.

BluWacky
2008-03-14, 19:51
From Japanese Wikipedia, very roughly:

The world was infected by "Pollutant" years ago - world cracked open and generally screwed up. This Pollutant spawns nasty "Pollutant Beasts", but it's also resulted in people gaining special powers. The towns that now litter the world are protected by alchemists and are mobile - these are the "Regios" of the title.

The story follows some guy named Lei-Fon Alseif who starts at a new school following the disappearance of his childhood friend- in the first book there's some kind of martial arts tournament with Intrigue! and stuff. He gets recruited into the special 17th Platoon in order to combat Pollutant Beasts - shounen action ensues.

Doesn't sound overly original or anything, but like Westlo I like the covers. We don't have any idea about staff yet obviously (the novel with the obi indicating the anime adaptation isn't even out yet) so it's hard to know whether to be interested or not with so little to go on, and I'm certainly not translating a Wikipedia page with my piss-poor Japanese.

Intriguingly, Koukaku no Regios recently won the "School Award" for best light novel in the Kadokawa Light Novel Awards 2007. I don't consider this to be a badge of honour given that a volume of Rental Magica won the "Action Award" and, based on the anime's evidence, Rental Magica is not particularly interesting at all. I've found one person comment on a blog post to say that Regios is "awesome", but the Internets hold no other English-language information on the damn thing. I'm not sure if NeoSam's dissection of the number of volumes of the novels is totally accurate - I'd have to check the Wikipedia article more thoroughly but there seem to be some gaiden-style novels along the way alongside the main ones listed, and they appear to be divided into "part 1" and "part 2" so who knows what that means for the plot?

So basically we have no idea what the stories about except that there are generic beasties and boys with magic powers (and moving cities). I'm trying to think of something witheringly sarcastic to say about this but I can't really muster up the enthusiasm, unfortunately.

Ah well, the covers DO look quite nice I suppose!

NeoSam
2008-03-14, 21:21
Fujimi Shobo's site for the light novel series:
http://www.fujimishobo.co.jp/sp/regios/

I'm not sure if NeoSam's dissection of the number of volumes of the novels is totally accurate - I'd have to check the Wikipedia article more thoroughly but there seem to be some gaiden-style novels along the way alongside the main ones listed, and they appear to be divided into "part 1" and "part 2" so who knows what that means for the plot?


7 light novels and the 8th is almost out.

But also a science fiction light novel series set in a past world of "Chrome Shelled Regios" light novel series also started. This light novel series is titled: LEGEND of REGIOS (レジェンド・オブ・レギオス). Its authored/illustrated by the same author/illustrator of the "Chrome Shelled Regios" light novel series. This light novel series is published by Fujimi Shobo under their light novel label: Style-F (http://www.comipedia.com/light-novel-label/style-f).

Covers:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3728/31914888tj1.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4228/32000984np1.jpg

Style-F light novels are supposed to be without illustrations, so I have no idea how these are considered light novels :twitch:

Westlo
2008-03-15, 09:56
Thanks for the info, sounds like standard fare but because I like the covers I'll keep an eye out for this and see what staff/studio gets it.

WanderingKnight
2008-03-15, 12:22
There's not much info, and with a quick search I couldn't find the manga anywhere... It's a pity, I really like the cover art style. I'll look into it when I have more time.

orion
2008-03-15, 12:26
Well, here's the ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-03-14/chrome-shelled-regios-light-novels-to-be-animated) post.

Jazzrat
2008-03-16, 15:54
like the novel cover art but the description and manga cover looks a pretty typical.

any manga/novel reader can give some better description on this?

Angrypokstick
2008-04-01, 08:14
I ve recently read its manga and one vol of the novel, took a peak in to more recent volumes but didn't get too deep so i don't know all its story but from what i ve read and seen i agree that it does indeed have a good storyline worthy of the hype its getting among light novel readers in japan.

The story is a little bit on the serious side but humor can be found. Although be warned that the main character is very angsts he WOULD and WILL get very angst/emo sometimes although for good reasons but there were occasions where i wish the author could have made him less emo later on . I mean it was ok at first but he is still more emo than i would liked in some of the later volumes. Nevertheless i m glad to see it animated hopefully it turns out oh right if the animators don't screw this up like so many other light novel turned animes.:mad:

For the story basically, aside from the moving/living cities setting it follows the story of Lei-Fon(which is not his real name by the way) who enrolled in one of the academy cities under its regular curriculum but was forced into the academy's martial arts curriculum after unwittingly pwning two first years martial art student who were bullying a girl during the school ceremony. The story sounds stereotypical but it doesn't last long. You pretty much realize quickly that the main-character isn't who he appear to be. He is neither the weakling/wuss nor is he the kind-hearted and easy going person he appears to be. The story focuses alot on the fact that despite how powerful he is he can't seem to escape his fate at being used and manipulated for his past sins. Basically i m avoiding to spoil since the story is really good and it should be enough to keep most people interested .

oh and since Rie Kugimiya is voicing one of my favorite characters from this story, thats just one more reason for me to watch this. And No she is not voicing a wrathful loli, there is a notable lack of lolis in this story.;)

NeoSam
2008-04-11, 20:11
Another manga adaptation of the Chrome Shelled Regios light novel series started serialization on April 10th, 2008 in Beans Ace (http://comipedia.com/magazine/beans-ace) magazine.

The manga is titled:
鋼殻のレギオス シークレット・サイド
CHROME SHELLED REGIOS Secret Side

Original Work: Amagi Shuusuke
Drawn by: Watari

Beans Ace is Kadokawa's manga magazine that serializes manga adaptations of Sneaker Bunko (http://comipedia.com/light-novel-label/sneaker-bunko)'s and Beans Bunko (http://comipedia.com/light-novel-label/beans-bunko)'s light novels, and original manga also runs in the magazine. Unlike other Kadokawa's manga magazines, this magazine serialize both shounen and shoujo manga. It serializes mostly shoujo manga, but has a few shounen manga in it.

Its unusual to see a manga adaptation of a Fujimi Fantasia Bunko light novel series running in this magazine. Usually manga adaptations of Fujimi Fantasia Bunko and Fujimi Mystery Bunko light novels run in Dragon Age/Dragon Age Pure magazines.

Niu
2008-04-11, 21:39
This is one anime I hope the story doesn't follow the original novel, or at least not up to arc2.

The story is pretty self contained until the end of arc1 and it starts to get out of control starting from Red Nocturne. And than combined with Ignashis' Awakening from the Legend.... things are really getting haywire. God, can a schoold rama just stay as a school drama?


You pretty much realize quickly that the main-character isn't who he appear to be. He is neither the weakling/wuss nor is he the kind-hearted and easy going person he appears to be. The story focuses alot on the fact that despite how powerful he is he can't seem to escape his fate at being used and manipulated for his past sins. Basically i m avoiding to spoil since the story is really good and it should be enough to keep most people interested .

This is somewhat misleading. Leifon Alsef IS his real name. Volfstein was his title when he was a Heaven Sword's Receiver. The title given the to receivers suppose to reflect their abilities. For example, the title Cuantis is only given to Receiver that has psychic ability. And despite he is no weakling and easy going, he is a TOTAL wuss, childish, a coward, and indulge in self hate way to often. Thank god this only last a volume and he lights up from Silent Talk and on, except the self hate part, though.

QBnoYouko
2008-04-13, 23:07
Sounds like something I wanna check out. Wish there was at least some indication of when to expect it though.

oh and since Rie Kugimiya is voicing one of my favorite characters from this story, thats just one more reason for me to watch this. And No she is not voicing a wrathful loli, there is a notable lack of lolis in this story.;)Just curious but from where did you find out Kugimiya is in this?

Westlo
2008-04-14, 11:05
If there's a VA list for this than someone post it up!

HaNa-san
2008-04-14, 11:22
The art is awesome and the story seems interesting ..I'll check it out, thanks for the information ^^

Niu
2008-04-14, 20:08
I don't think the cast for the anime is out yet.
The cast for Radio Drama and the Drama CD goes as follow:

Leifon: Shimono Hiro (Very fitting, Shimono is the best choice for a wuss you can find.)
Nina: Itou Shizuka
Feri: Kugimiya Virus
Jhaneed: Ouno Daisuke
James: Kobushi Nobuyuki
Meishan: Gotou Saori
Naruki: Kaida Yuko
Mifi: Shintani Ryuko
Lilin: Asano Masumi
Carian: Hirakawa Daisuke

Nightwing(T_T)
2008-04-16, 22:57
I just read CHROME SHELLED REGIOS MISSING MAIL - what is the difference for this manga adaptation story with light novel one - I'm reallly really really really curious about the story

could some one give the summary or might as well explain the plot (hunger of curiosity)

Matt122005
2008-04-19, 02:33
Um, just to understand, cause I have the May issue of Dragon Magazine, did the short story JUST start? It says Chapter O1 but I want to make sure.

Also, can you read it and enjoy it even without having read the normal novels?

-Matt :)

Angrypokstick
2008-04-21, 05:25
yeah, now that i read some more of the novel, while the story is certainly interesting, it is getting out of hand for something that was suppose to be about school-life drama but oh well it certainly isn't bad. Oh since there is no official list of VA announced i m just going by their drama cd VA which had Rie kugimiya in it. here is the Japanese version of the list Niu posted:
  レイフォン:下野 纮
  ニーナ:伊藤 静
  フェリ:钉宫理惠
  シャーニッド:小野大辅
  ハーレイ:喜安浩平
  メイシェン:后藤沙绪里
  ナルキ:甲斐田裕子
  ミィフィ:新谷良子
  リーリン:浅野真澄
  カリアン:平川大辅

And I m too lazy right now to write a summary of the story as the plot goes through quite alot after vol1 and 2 and i probably won't write one until i actually get around to finishing all 7 volume of light novels, but right now i m still busy with school.
As for the main character, well he could be so bad-ass one moment and yet so god damn emo the next. seriously he is one REALLY emo guy.:)

Niu
2008-04-21, 20:12
Agreed, Leifon's "Lilin help me!" is just epic. It is so sad that you hope he'd do that more often.

Also, you also have to read the Legend too to understand why I am saying this novel is getting out of control. They are really leading up to an evil secret conspirator is going to mess up the world plot thread. This is just UGH.

Angrypokstick
2008-04-21, 22:52
well i got that dark conspiracy vibe when i found out that the cities have to compete against each other, i don't know why i suspected the conspiracy but i did. And either way the book is not bad, i got used to seeing complex forms of conspiracy as the main plot or plot twist in most shows/ manga/ novel.
And yes, those "Lilin help me!" line gets used so much in the first volume that it has stepped into the realm of emo epic-ness.:heh:

Niu
2008-04-22, 02:35
Nah, instead saying that all the complexity is bad, it is more of a problem that the novel has pull it self out of its own boundary. I am sure you know how awkward it look now with trying to fit a world terror conspiracy into a school drama, especially with the Mr.evil manipulator poorly introduced. And from the look of Legend, I can say we'll also have serious time travel nonsense coming or something close.
Things really got shift so drastically that I can barely follow.
Oh well, at least this didn't effect the characters too much, they are still consistent with themselves. And the recent volume eight is going to be fairly comedic with the love triangle exploding.
I'll just pray the evil conspiracy thing ends with Legend's vol.3 and don't get any further, and have the main story stay the way it is.

Angrypokstick
2008-04-22, 03:17
ahh, i see what you mean. Going by your view yes this indeed looks so "out there" compared to the feel when you first start the book. but then again i have never read the legend of regio novels so i don't know as much about this conspiracy.
And, wait .. did you say vol 8 will have more awesome love triangle antics! damn must read faster so i can read this vol 8 when it comes out.:heh:

NeoSam
2008-08-08, 09:41
The official site for the anime has opened:
http://anime.webnt.jp/regios/

*reira*
2008-09-18, 04:11
The cast list for Regios has surfaced on 2ch, and here's a pretty sound proof:
http://tnpt.net/uploader/src/up23742.jpg

Anime looks scheduled for Winter 2009 broadcast.

NeoSam
2008-10-20, 09:59
Ok, so another shounen manga adaptation will start serialization in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age. The manga will start serialization on November 8th, 2008.

The manga will be a 4-panel manga, and its titled:

フェリの詩
Feri no Uta

Shounen manga.
Drawn by: Futaba Masumi

herbert
2008-11-08, 23:42
Official characters poll ended today. As expected, a landslide victory for Ray (27.67% be-voted rate), followed by Ferri (18.08%) and Nina (17.21%).

Ferri-sempei, you hold back too much...

http://anime.webnt.jp/regios/

cyth
2008-11-25, 01:28
KADOKAWA Anime Channel is now streaming (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=QeP5temgw-A&fmt=22) a 2-minute promo. Also, the official website is now hosting (http://www.amgakuin.co.jp/contents/regios/menu03.html) samples of the anime's theme songs. Broadcasts start on January 10.

Shadow Kira01
2008-11-25, 18:33
The seiyuu cast for the anime seems to be different than the drama CD. Nakahara Mai (Nagisa - Clannad) will be replacing Kugimiya Rie for the role of Feri Roth.

Chrome Shelled Regios (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=10243)

kyouray
2008-11-26, 05:50
Some pictures and screenshots on Dengeki Online (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/123/123779/).

AlaAlba
2009-01-09, 13:32
I have a really big expectation for this one :D, 1 more day until airing time :cool:

Midonin
2009-01-09, 13:40
The OP and ED samples are nice, and I've liked every series I've seen from ZEXCS, so this one is on my list.

-Sho-
2009-01-10, 11:22
Just watch the trailer , it seems its a great anime with action !!! Yeah i like that ! Look for it !

Renegade334
2009-01-10, 15:33
Just watched the raw - quite nice for a first episode. I'll mark this one as a series to follow, as I'm not too gung ho with this current season (probably my fault for keeping my tastes too focused). For those who've already read the first chapters of Chrome-Shelled Regios: Missing Mail, well, it seems it's quite faithful to the story (and, yes, I pertinently know the novel came first - I was referring to the overall plot, from which CSR:MM was derived), with the opening scenes harkening back to Leifon's life in his childhood city.

Quite action-packed, animation's okay (nothing as spectacular as Macross or 00, but appropriate for a shounen series), but let's keep in mind that this is the pilot ep, and that more budget is allotted to drawing it compared to the following ones.

And...
Ain't Feri cute with that dual personality of hers?

Next week: the tournament.

EDIT: I didn't see any screenshots on 2chan...a pity. This universe needs more love.

zalem
2009-01-10, 15:54
Yeah, this winter season kind of sucks. I was looking into this one though I haven't seen the RAW yet. From some of the comments here, I take it we have yet another series with a really shitty male lead character? *sighs* Maybe the anime adaptation will make him better.

I'd prefer a more complex plot, so I'm all for conspiracies. School drama will bore me very quickly.

aroduc
2009-01-10, 16:02
Adored the first episode. Very action packed, nice surprises with some of the characters. Mifi annoys me already, as does Layfon, but whatever. So long as they keep spending almost half of each episode fighting things, I'm ecstatic. Some really great music throughout the entire episode too.

Caps (http://blog.seiha.org/2009/01/chrome-shelled-regios-01-rpg-anime/#more-2621)

The short fight scene (there's about a 6 minute one against evil CG potatobug spewing insect spread out across the start and end of the episode).
2HAQFPWF_lg

Love that music, especially the Zeal theme.

Renegade334
2009-01-10, 16:03
Shitty? Can't say he is - if you've read the Missing Mail manga and the other series, you'll see that he does pack a lot of firepower and, well, his (for now, concealed) past will speak for himself.

The problem is...there are times where his emo gauge is ready to scream bloody murder.

Bonta Kun
2009-01-10, 16:24
holy crap how could I have missed this?!!

had no idea there was a anime being made for this, and now its airing!!!

and yea can't really say the dude is a "shitty" male lead, just he's prone to some uber bouts of emoness:heh:

zalem
2009-01-10, 16:31
Oh so he is just emo once in a while, not one of those really useless, pathetic types? Well, that's a relief. I can handle a bit of emo...I think.

Renegade334
2009-01-10, 16:37
Depends on the circumstances but,the problem is that he was hoping to start a new life at Zuellni but, all of a sudden, wham, he gets shanghaied by the council president (who recognized him for who he truly was) to the Arms class...which he wanted to avoid like the plague.

That's not a small springboard for emo-ness. For him, it's a frigging catapult.

ThoHell
2009-01-10, 18:08
Ok, I can't grasp the direction of this series, but I guess that's because it has only been 1 episode. Well seems interesting enough, lets see what episode 2 has in stored.... Some elements and character types I already dislike, but the main hero seems to suite my taste. Main concept of dislike...student council, president (guess I just hate the absurdly I know all type of characters and run everything...... oh yeah right, kill them all off please).

Deathkillz
2009-01-10, 19:17
Well colour me surprised with this series :heh:
ep 1
Judging from the promo pic this first episode was nothing what I first expected for the series to be. Well I was expecting a more milder presentation instead we were thrown into a huge fight with some alien bugs (it's always those damned bugs :rolleyes:) although the episode was effectively split into two sections.

But I do wonder what happens on what timeline. Do both events happen at present time or is one from the past? I am more inclined to think that the bug fighting scene is the past for our male lead since he seems to have a flashback to it.

The characters have proven to be likable and kya~~ the president dude is voice by the same guy who did Jade :heh:

Female attraction wise...Damn it has to be that cutesy girl with the long white hair. Cutesy and "wild" :heh:

Darco_emp
2009-01-10, 23:15
For an avid follower of this novel series, the first ep gives an petty good introduction to the series and the character personalties petty well.

There is a fair bit skipped or changed from the novel but that is expected from a series with 12 ep length, however since from ep 3 on we seems to have deviated from the novel timeline I can only hope for a good conclusion.

I do hope there is going to be further seasons, since even up to novel 6 the world view is still very unclear.

Feri sempai!!!!!!!!! <3<3<3

Manji Midou
2009-01-11, 06:05
pretty anime....from what l was able to grasp...l loved it...hope a sub is out soon *_*

Susanou
2009-01-11, 06:55
Well, that was a nice start for a series I've been looking forward to for quite a while now. It already starts off with two battles, followed by character introduction and a brief glimpse of the protagonist's past. Also, there is something about that president I wonder about. Is it just me or
do the young buy with the glasses in the vehicle at the beginning of the episode and the current president look 'a bit' like a each other? If they really are the same person, it would explain why the President already knew about Reyfon's true strength, maybe he saw him battle in the past.
Note: I didn't read the manga/visual novel so its just speculation.
Looking forward to the next episodes :D

Renegade334
2009-01-11, 07:06
do the young buy with the glasses in the vehicle at the beginning of the episode and the current president look 'a bit' like a each other? If they really are the same person, it would explain why the President already knew about Reyfon's true strength, maybe he saw him battle in the past.
They're probably one and the same person. However, there are also two other persons who recognized Reifon after the balcony/porch collapsed - so they might have snitched on the newcomer, knowing that the president is looking for more people to wheedle or blackmail. And, anyway, I guess the guy was already privy to the student list and noticed a familiar name inside it.

arkxkra
2009-01-11, 09:47
erm, just watched 1st episode, erm not bad. and COOL!
I never read novel, but has read the mange (some) before, although some part was different, but I actually found it more good in anime :). Like the student council president voice :heh:.

Need to find novel and read.

AlaAlba
2009-01-11, 09:57
Well, that was a nice start for a series I've been looking forward to for quite a while now. It already starts off with two battles, followed by character introduction and a brief glimpse of the protagonist's past. Also, there is something about that president I wonder about. Is it just me or
do the young buy with the glasses in the vehicle at the beginning of the episode and the current president look 'a bit' like a each other? If they really are the same person, it would explain why the President already knew about Reyfon's true strength, maybe he saw him battle in the past.
Note: I didn't read the manga/visual novel so its just speculation.
Looking forward to the next episodes :D
yes, I m also on for him to be the same guy. but 1 thing, if it were him, how the hell he could know that the little boy who got wrapped his head all over like that IS reifon. and I think he also didnt have any chance to know the little boy(reifon)'s name. :heh:

DangerMouse
2009-01-11, 10:19
This looks like it's got a lot of potential for a lot of action and a large cast of characters, nice character designs too.

I'm not familiar with the source but I'm not sure how they can do a seemingly larger scale show like this in just 12/13 episodes, hopefully they've got a second season planned if it does well :)

I'm looking forwards to this one.

AlaAlba
2009-01-11, 10:22
is it official? that this show only have 12-13 episodes.

MrTerrorist
2009-01-11, 11:40
I just saw the raw and the subs from Ayako has just been release.
Very different from the manga i read but still good.

It's kinda ironic that the protagonist Lei-Fong is voiced by the same person who voiced the Antagonist, Accelerator from To Aru Majutsu no Index.

zalem
2009-01-11, 12:08
The first episode was decent. The main character is not so bad (at least for the moment). That reporter-wannabe girl is annoying as hell though. Hope she isn't in it too much. The other characters seem ok.

With only 12 episodes I kind of wonder where this series is going to go, unless they have a second season.

*reira*
2009-01-11, 12:43
They talked about the anime as a 2-cour one on the radio programme, so I figure that's what it's going to be.

Zu Ra
2009-01-11, 12:45
From Japanese Wikipedia, very roughly:

The world was infected by "Pollutant" years ago - world cracked open and generally screwed up. This Pollutant spawns nasty "Pollutant Beasts", but it's also resulted in people gaining special powers. The towns that now litter the world are protected by alchemists and are mobile - these are the "Regios" of the title.

The story follows some guy named Lei-Fon Alseif who starts at a new school following the disappearance of his childhood friend- in the first book there's some kind of martial arts tournament with Intrigue! and stuff. He gets recruited into the special 17th Platoon in order to combat Pollutant Beasts - shounen action ensues.

Doesn't sound overly original or anything, but like Westlo I like the covers. We don't have any idea about staff yet obviously (the novel with the obi indicating the anime adaptation isn't even out yet) so it's hard to know whether to be interested or not with so little to go on, and I'm certainly not translating a Wikipedia page with my piss-poor Japanese.

Intriguingly, Koukaku no Regios recently won the "School Award" for best light novel in the Kadokawa Light Novel Awards 2007. I don't consider this to be a badge of honour given that a volume of Rental Magica won the "Action Award" and, based on the anime's evidence, Rental Magica is not particularly interesting at all. I've found one person comment on a blog post to say that Regios is "awesome", but the Internets hold no other English-language information on the damn thing. I'm not sure if NeoSam's dissection of the number of volumes of the novels is totally accurate - I'd have to check the Wikipedia article more thoroughly but there seem to be some gaiden-style novels along the way alongside the main ones listed, and they appear to be divided into "part 1" and "part 2" so who knows what that means for the plot?

So basically we have no idea what the stories about except that there are generic beasties and boys with magic powers (and moving cities). I'm trying to think of something witheringly sarcastic to say about this but I can't really muster up the enthusiasm, unfortunately.

Ah well, the covers DO look quite nice I suppose!

From BluWackysummary and seeing Manga art works posted by NeoSam the show looks full of promise . I will check this out but the only factor which is discouraging is the video-game ish feel.

I will download the first episode and post my veiws later on : D

Shiroth
2009-01-11, 12:59
The characters have proven to be likable and kya~~ the president dude is voice by the same guy who did Jade :heh:
So this show has Takehito Koyasu? Well there's my reason for watching it now instead of a marathon at a later date.

Manji Midou
2009-01-11, 13:13
so whose the girl that smooches him? will she be joining him in the near future?
and lulz for girl venting out her anger on that......

neoeagle
2009-01-11, 13:47
awsome finally an anime i can watch.Perfect first episode.

DangerMouse
2009-01-11, 14:09
is it official? that this show only have 12-13 episodes.

I hope not. I haven't seen an episode count anywhere, I was just responding to the previous poster who wrote that.

They talked about the anime as a 2-cour one on the radio programme, so I figure that's what it's going to be.

Ah okay, so it'll atleast be in the full 24-26 range at the shortest, that's good to hear.

kujoe
2009-01-11, 14:10
I get the impression that the manga version (Missing Mail in particular) is already somewhat different from the novel series.

Just curious... where does the anime stand with regard to this? Is it following this manga or the novels?

Voitan
2009-01-11, 17:40
It was a very good first episode, and I like the setting already.

However the narration is hard to figure out until you realize after multiple viewings, or reading it from here, that flashbacks from the protagonist's past is used.

Also the transition from serious to comedy was a bit rough, but after that it sort of found it's balance I suppose. Definately liking Fairy/Ferri. Porcelain doll in public, pent-up volcano in private, if I was a shipper, I'd be gunning for this pairing for the luls. :heh:

Overall good episode, I'll be keeping in touch with it (and hopefully the worries about School Dramedy to Shitgotreal isn't going to make it suck)

-Sho-
2009-01-11, 17:51
After Asu no Yoichi , here another great anime with a good main character who he is not weak yeah !!
Wow there are a lot of characters , amazing ! Good action more and more ! We have pratically all different character is awesome ^^ I will follow this anime ! (its look like a RPG game :p ) Well , it was Layfon past i think and now he is in a school ! He already got a girlfriend ! Omg Harley , his voice not fit him !(his style too :p )
Wait for the next ep !

TrueKnight
2009-01-11, 18:17
Well that was a decent 1st ep. Good pack of actions againts the alien bugs.

Judging from the events, seems like Layfon was once a badass monster-hunter (or at least his younger day was) but because some reason he had to leave the Regious Grendan. And had a girlfriend to boot? lol.

Now when he transfers to the new Academy Town Zenri he took General Affairs but somehow manage to look badass saving the black haired girl so he ended up being recruited to the Military Department lol.

Not to mention from the first ep, he also already made the black haired girl going all smooch over him, there's also a potential love interest from the squad captain and the white-haired loli.

So far ep 1 looks promising.

Wargumm1i
2009-01-11, 18:30
Depends on the circumstances but,the problem is that he was hoping to start a new life at Zuellni but, all of a sudden, wham, he gets shanghaied by the council president (who recognized him for who he truly was) to the Arms class...which he wanted to avoid like the plague.

That's not a small springboard for emo-ness. For him, it's a frigging catapult.

Wait wasent the Student council President on the little vehicle that was saved in the begining and in the end, and he witnessed the fight between those three and huge bug thing?

That might be the reason why he recognized him, because saved his life one time.

NakedAngelX
2009-01-11, 21:16
Too many shit happened in the first episode. Am very confused. Too many characters and events, and that dream of Layfon's. :confused:

Hope they clear things up quick and can move on with the series smoothly.

Boduar
2009-01-11, 22:25
Um is it just me or was the vehicle a bait to lure the bug/mutant away from the main ship lol?

margafred
2009-01-12, 03:07
I'm surprised this thread progresses slowly compared to the other winter anime thread.From what i could see in the first episode..the storyline was good,the characters were attractive,and the actions of course,packed and solid,totally gave me no room for my eyes to look to the other place,other than my lappy monitor.

Not sure if i should be glad that there's no surprise element occur in the first episode,unlike Ga-Rei Zero first episode..but looking at how the story moved,i guess episode 1 CSR don't need any of that.

Layfon surely was interesting...a man which has the same resemblance as him appeared during the early part of the story with a few strong guys trying to take down a monster,and it happened outside the city which i believed to be the same city where Layfon was currently studying now.I'm not quite sure what actually happened here but like someone said,this probably could be caused by 2 different timelines.That,or Layfon has a secret not mentioned yet in the series?Interesting enough to keep me stick to this series.

Other characters were good too.Nina and her platoon 17 members,including the girl who has the telepathy ability (and her bro is the student council president)..seems like each character has an ability unique to their own,other than those "restoration" ability.Animation quality?Need i mention in here?At least i believe this series wouldn't have to suffer bad comments about this series having a poor and collapsing animation quality,unlike Akikan and MK-Okaeri.

Overall,i give it 9/10 for first episode.Less 1 point becoz of that chibi half dead Layfon inside the student council president room,kinda ruining the seriousness of the series.

iceyfw
2009-01-12, 04:29
first episode did not confuse me at all and left quite a strong impression on me. we have a male protagonist who is already strong in terms of combat fighting and we saw what he is capable of through the flashbacks. badass moments for him to come? and the bgm music during the fighting didn't seem to suit it at all to me. it was rather annoying the second time around. i hope that changes.

the tone of the story seems to be quite serious and we are introduced a fair bit of new characters which is hard for some people to catch them all. of course i have a few questions as well like the rest of you from what we're shown so far. the biggest one would be what did he do when he was younger to make him reconsider starting his life over? oh, lol @ black bags under leyfon's eyes in episode 2.

Eisdrache
2009-01-12, 08:13
Some thoughts to the episode:

1) Heaven-Blade: Seems to be some kind of extremely strong platoon or unit that only the best can enter. Layfon was once a member and maybe still is one.

2) White-haired loli (<3) and student council president = siblings ;_;
2.1) Loli is able to use telepathy as well as the old woman we see during the bug fight.
2.2) Super cute loli shouting in a hole and just being cute.
2.3) Student council president actually asked those students to start a fight in front of the other students. It might be possible that they actually endangered black-haired girl on purpose as well.
2.4) 3rd student who was not present at the fight. Is the one who quitted 17th platoon a while before. May become important later on.
2.5) Angsty white-haired guy in the bus. Student council president? Though his appearance has changed quite a lot while Layfon seems more or less the same. A bit taller maybe.

3) Reporter-girl raising her moe level by 9000 with having her hair open.
3.1) Black-haired girl looks nice when smiling and blushing.

4) Bugs with superfast REGENERATION. Friggin awesome. I hope following monsters will be on the same level of awesomeness.

Loki.Nya
2009-01-12, 08:43
Wow, the music when they were fighting must have been the worst I've heard in quite a while!

Sinestra
2009-01-12, 10:26
My anime diet has been lacking a good shounen and i mean GOOD since D. Gray-man so im looking forward to Chrome Shelled Regios. The promo had enough for me to add it to my list. Haven t seen the first episode yet going to have to make an attempt later this week. But seeing some post in here looks like the first episode was received well.

MrTerrorist
2009-01-12, 13:17
When i was watching this series, i had a sense of Deja Vu cause it reminded me of something i read before.

It turns out it reminded me of this webcomic series, Direction of Destiny.
http://directionsofdestiny.com/

Their plots maybe different but they have the same premise and settings (In the future, students who use weapons and magic, a student's family that controls the school etc) that i'm starting to think this isn't a coincidence.

-Sho-
2009-01-12, 14:14
Pratically all the anime are alike so its like that .

NakedAngelX ==> It's the first episode lol its normal if you can't understand the story yet ..... in one episode they can't introduce all character omg and developed .....

iceyfw
2009-01-12, 15:29
it looks like ZEXCS made a mistake on an animation. nina's little flashback shows layfon/lei-fon taking off his coat when rescuing meishen yet he had his coat on the whole time :eyebrow:

i was also looking at the manga chapters scanlated and i like how the anime portrays him differently as a serious guy so far. in the manga Missing Mail lets just say he is a bit more carefree. btw is his name spell lei-fon or layfon?

SkoolRumble4Ya
2009-01-12, 17:11
Great action and funny episode looking forward to more.

Wargumm1i
2009-01-12, 17:12
Great action and funny episode looking forward to more.

Ya despite all the confusion in the episode it still was enjoyable.

LemonMunchies
2009-01-13, 01:17
It was a good first episode, but the music during the fight scenes were soooooo annoying. . . >_>

Boduar
2009-01-13, 03:53
This is and Druaga are probably going to be the only 2 anime this season that im going to be waiting on each week for the new episodes to come out. I always like when the character starts off strong but doesnt feel like using it.

Chrono Helix
2009-01-13, 07:15
Wow, the music when they were fighting must have been the worst I've heard in quite a while!

Sounds like it came out of Beatmania.

Malkuth
2009-01-13, 08:16
I liked the first episode it reminds me a lot of The Third (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4088). By the way this show is by ZEXCS? ZEXCS as in dull ren-ai adaptions and blatant fanservice?

Interesting ... I'll stick with it for now, since except the parody of Marimite, there's isn't anything really exciting until now.

On another note, who dug up all these techno BGM crap?!?!?

UPR
2009-01-13, 09:49
loved ep 1.

what day exactly does the rest of the ep come out?

Jerseykid
2009-01-13, 10:14
I liked the school life better than the action and the action was great

blitz1/2
2009-01-13, 10:35
After Asu no Yoichi , here another great anime with a good main character who he is not weak yeah !!
Wow there are a lot of characters , amazing ! Good action more and more ! We have pratically all different character is awesome ^^ I will follow this anime ! (its look like a RPG game :p ) Well , it was Layfon past i think and now he is in a school ! He already got a girlfriend ! Omg Harley , his voice not fit him !(his style too :p )
Wait for the next ep !

not only that but both protagonists from both series are voiced by the same guy!

Nobuhiko OKAMOTO

Cinocard
2009-01-13, 14:26
What an eventful first ep. We can summary and conclude a few thing about the storyline?

The world is filled with monster, human gather in special cities, military academies compete in Inter-city tournament to get fame and budget.

Our Protagonist, Leifon is actually quite famous.

The beginning was actually a flashback of Leifon in the past, and he wields a weapon listed as Heaven-Blade, a group of uber strong weapons. The white haired guy at the beginning might be the student council president.

The president may be the one gave the order for 2 new students to fight, and even make the blue haired guy leave 17th platoon, all were setup to put Leifon in?

Something happened in the past between Nina and the bald guy. I'm 80% sure he will turn from enemy to be ally later on.

And i see canons. Love-square for Leifon, romance between Nina and Harley, the hat guy?

It was a good first episode, but the music during the fight scenes were soooooo annoying. . . >_>

Really? I thought it was very fatasy-ish, i like the feeling it gave of exploring a whole new fantasy world.

Boduar
2009-01-13, 16:45
Is the weapon called Heaven-blade or is it the group of special fighters hes apart of called heaven-blade.

LelouchGeass
2009-01-13, 17:02
Its actually a group of special fighters. The manga kinda clarified Layfon as one of these special people who have tons of power in them.

Layfon keeps his strength secret, so its not the weapon, but the person.

Fevvers
2009-01-13, 18:22
Ep. 1

Well now, that was boring, not that I was expecting much anyway judging from what I've read from the manga. At least there's still the ongoing Soul Eater and Shikabane Hime (no idea if it retained its atmosphere for the second season though) for good old shounen fun.

Mei19
2009-01-13, 19:30
I still have no idea what in world was going on with their world (other than they're being harassed by bugs) but I still think the series is madly cool. I think I'm going to watch more.

herbert
2009-01-13, 21:30
Its actually a group of special fighters. The manga kinda clarified Layfon as one of these special people who have tons of power in them.
novel spoiler

Layfon keeps his strength secret, so its not the weapon, but the person.
No, the formal title for them is 天剣授受者 which literally means receivers of Heaven Blades. Heaven blades are 12 weapons made of special/mysterious material(白金錬金鋼), so 12 receivers at max (normally they can't find enough members though).

aliasxn
2009-01-13, 22:18
Wow, the guy is a chick magnet! And he is mega bad ass too... It is so fucking rare to see a combination of both.

Boduar
2009-01-13, 23:25
Its definately refreshing to have a main character who I hope wont be a complete wimp and get beaten senseless or just not fight. Almost every anime I started watching last season for action I dropped because the main characters were terribly weak ... winning by luck the entire series does not make for a good anime.

Oxtail
2009-01-14, 04:06
Best harem setup episode this season! Exactly how many girls with romantic potential were introduced this episode? I lost count. :) Though I dunno how that's going to work since it looks like he has a girlfriend. :p

FuzzyWuzzy
2009-01-14, 09:23
So I'm not really sure what is happening.

So let me get this straight. The main character is this super strong ninja leet wowzor one shot pwning monster killing genius. He belonged to a group of other leet geniuses and he was actually in training to improve his skills more.

But somewhere along the lines or as time passes by, he wanted a change. He wanted a new beginning or new life so he went to this school as a normal "general" student. So a girl kissed him before he left to school and another girl is falling for him and he was recruited by a girl to be in their platoon, and another girl that is loli asked his helped. So the harem potential is also through the roof.

Did I get everything right?

Estaron
2009-01-14, 09:43
So I'm not really sure what is happening.

So let me get this straight. The main character is this super strong ninja leet wowzor one shot pwning monster killing genius. He belonged to a group of other leet geniuses and he was actually in training to improve his skills more.

But somewhere along the lines or as time passes by, he wanted a change. He wanted a new beginning or new life so he went to this school as a normal "general" student. So a girl kissed him before he left to school and another girl is falling for him and he was recruited by a girl to be in their platoon, and another girl that is loli asked his helped. So the harem potential is also through the roof.

Did I get everything right?

Not everything lol

Main character is a heaven sword reciever, which is a famed warrior position in the city he used to live in. However, he doesn't want to fight anymore because he made a big mistake before coming to the academy city. That mistake (or disgraceful act) caused him to lose fame and be kind of kicked out of his former city.

He wanted to become a normal student. The girl who kissed was his childhood friend (who he lived together in a orphanage). She was the only person who was supportive of the main char after the 'mistake'. She will become the main heroine probably later on.

I wonder if I should write notes on the ep... This ep is hard to understand without reading the book.

aliasxn
2009-01-14, 09:45
So I'm not really sure what is happening.

So let me get this straight. The main character is this super strong ninja leet wowzor one shot pwning monster killing genius. He belonged to a group of other leet geniuses and he was actually in training to improve his skills more.

But somewhere along the lines or as time passes by, he wanted a change. He wanted a new beginning or new life so he went to this school as a normal "general" student. So a girl kissed him before he left to school and another girl is falling for him and he was recruited by a girl to be in their platoon, and another girl that is loli asked his helped. So the harem potential is also through the roof.

Did I get everything right?

I thought it was the other way around… He got accepted into the school and then joined some kind of special forces... Anyway, the first episode was really confusing... Just like Prism Ark.

SuperKnuckles
2009-01-14, 09:46
I thought it was a pretty alright episode. Typical of ZXEXS anime in first-ep-confusion.

But the premise reminds me a LOT of Final Fantsy 8. Rival school factions, raising up students to be soldiers, domed cities? Wow

Sheba
2009-01-14, 09:51
It would have been a nice one for me if it was not for the battle music that made me cringe.

slidingk1
2009-01-14, 10:47
Oh please Please very big Please don't go down in flames like Prism Ark. Since that giant fiasco I'm more hesitant about picking up new stuff.

Impressions so far the first episode seems to work for me in some way. The character designs are very nice by far the best looking so far this season. That and as long as it doesn't get super emo I'm ok with it. Here's hoping that we have a male lead that actually man's up and has a pair. I'm sick of the pathetic I don't want to fight pussies and spineless tools.

Eisdrache
2009-01-14, 12:06
I thought it was the other way around… He got accepted into the school and then joined some kind of special forces... Anyway, the first episode was really confusing... Just like Prism Ark.

Summary on AniDB:

*Based on a light novel series by Shuusuke Amagi, illustrated by Miyuu.

The world was infected by "Pollutant" years ago - world cracked open and generally screwed up. This Pollutant spawns nasty "Pollutant Beasts", but it's also resulted in people gaining special powers. The towns that now litter the world are protected by alchemists and are mobile - these are the "Regios" of the title.

The story follows a guy named Lei-Fon Alseif who starts at a new school following the disappearance of his childhood friend and gets recruited into the special 17th Platoon in order to combat Pollutant Beasts.

That should clear up the time line.

Also herbert, you are discussing manga facts that have not been revealed in the anime yet. Please put that into spoiler tags.

asrielchase
2009-01-14, 12:38
Summary on AniDB:

The story follows a guy named Lei-Fon Alseif who starts at a new school following the disappearance of his childhood friend and gets recruited into the special 17th Platoon in order to combat Pollutant Beasts.




Which childhood friend? :confused:

I read the novels but cant seem to remember there's any disappearance of a childhood friend. Maybe anidb got it wrong somehow...

Watched the first episode. I don't know what the show's trying to do by messing with the timeline and packing so much information into the first episode. Some of the scenes would be better suited if revealed later IMO. Anyway, has to watch a few more eps to see how this would turn out. But seeing Ikeda Mamiko's name in the staff credits doesn't really get my hopes up.

iceyfw
2009-01-14, 14:07
so who exactly develops romantic feelings for layfon besides his childhood friend and meishin? and who is involved in this love triangle talk in volume 8? :D curosity killed the cat but i'm willing to take a chance

-Sho-
2009-01-14, 14:27
oh come on , it's not very confused ! It's the first episode OMG !
Kurozuka was more confused and not only him more anime too !

Boduar
2009-01-14, 14:30
Lol try Chaos Head for confusing for that matter although I think the point of the anime was to make you wonder WTF was going on.

herbert
2009-01-14, 15:58
Also herbert, you are discussing manga facts that have not been revealed in the anime yet. Please put that into spoiler tags.
I don't really my post was a big spoiler. I just corrected some misunderstandings here and there. And these have very little to do with plot, just some background info. Plus, I'm talking about novel, not manga...

spoiler tag is in place.

Cinocard
2009-01-14, 21:44
You did it wrong, there isn't any tag :)

But i wouldn't have counted if you hadn't said there are 12 members in the group.

Which childhood friend? :confused:

I read the novels but cant seem to remember there's any disappearance of a childhood friend. Maybe anidb got it wrong somehow...



I immediately think of the girl at the end who wrote about "Grendan" (and what the heck is that? A sacred place where the incident first happened to ruin the world?) But it's strange if novel readers have no idea about it.

How far are you reading now?

meh
2009-01-14, 22:00
Didn't have high hopes for the series, but did like the first episode. Always do like a main character who tries to hold back power, rather than a useless main character who goes around trying to fight everyone(the latter is way too common IMO).

Although if I hadn't read the descriptions, I'd have thought this anime was based on a visual novel rather than a light novel. So many girls...

Guardian Enzo
2009-01-14, 23:19
So, dumb question - is Harley male or female?

iceyfw
2009-01-14, 23:34
Harley is male :uhoh:

asrielchase
2009-01-15, 00:43
I immediately think of the girl at the end who wrote about "Grendan"

How far are you reading now?


Currently reading the sixth one.

That girl is his childhood friend, but well, she's still writing to him so she didn't disappear or whatsoever. Anidb definitely has some weird source of info.


I don't know what the subs says but Grendan is Layfon's hometown. I thought at the end she mentioned it?

iceyfw
2009-01-15, 00:54
I don't know what the subs says but Grendan is Layfon's hometown. I thought at the end she mentioned it?

she mentioned it, but to first time viewers they have no clue what Grendan means. regardless of it even being considered some sort of city. even i didn't catch it at first until watching it the second time around. then i went ohh.. it's a city. she says towards the end "I pray, that someday, you... will once again set foot on the soil of Grendan." we don't get any other info on Grendan besides that. so people will have to conclude what it means unless you read the manga or novels.

tzia_n
2009-01-15, 09:25
Gone are the days when we actually took time to guess what the hell is going on in the story. Now we just ask the manga / novel readers :heh:

But seriously, keep the talk of the novel at a minimum. I personally don't mind spoilers (since I read them) but it's kinda annoying when posts after posts have spoiler tags in them. Of course, if the entire post is spoiler-tagged, that's even worse :heh:

But going back on topic, this seems like an interesting show. The juxtaposition of the two different timelines was both confusing and intriguing. My first guess was that the fight scene pointed to the future and that we'll get to see Leyfon (sp?) grow to be that warrior. But then someone pointed out that that may not be the case :heh:

I don't know why, but I like the white-hair girl the most. And whenever the main character is cool and not annoying / pathetic, that's huge plus points for me :heh:

TrueKnight
2009-01-15, 09:31
My first guess was that the fight scene pointed to the future and that we'll get to see Leyfon (sp?) grow to be that warrior.

The thing is, that the warrior sounded like a twelve year old, while Layfon sounded alot older. I'm still betting my money that it's Layfon from the past defending his hometown Grenden and that he's once this badass mofo but somehow got dis-owned or whatver and kicked out to Zenri City.

Who's the name of the white-haired loli btw (Ferri?) and should I read the CSR - Missing Mail everones here talking about?

tzia_n
2009-01-15, 10:15
The thing is, that the warrior sounded like a twelve year old, while Layfon sounded alot older. I'm still betting my money that it's Layfon from the past defending his hometown Grenden and that he's once this badass mofo but somehow got dis-owned or whatver and kicked out to Zenri City.

Who's the name of the white-haired loli btw (Ferri?) and should I read the CSR - Missing Mail everones here talking about?

True, he sounded a bit girlish during the fights, but I never really trusted my hearing before since it sucks :heh: But it just goes against the norm to have the main character already powerful instead of having him grow / realize his powers.

and I have no idea what Missing Mail is. Is it the light novel?

TrueKnight
2009-01-15, 11:00
and I have no idea what Missing Mail is. Is it the light novel?

Finally read it, Its a manga version but its somewhat set in an alternate universe differs from the anime. Its quite Layfon x Ferri (white-haired-loli) centric lol. The translations are out around chapter 4-5 btw.

By reading Missing-Mail I think I'm gonna enjoy Chrome Shelled Regios alot. :D

germanturkey
2009-01-15, 12:13
this is rather interesting. i guess i'll follow this one too. i can't wait to see how kickass Layfon really is compared to everyone else.

Boduar
2009-01-15, 15:33
Anyone know when ep2 airs>?

whiter
2009-01-15, 17:22
Finally read it, Its a manga version but its somewhat set in an alternate universe differs from the anime. Its quite Layfon x Ferri (white-haired-loli) centric lol. The translations are out around chapter 4-5 btw.

By reading Missing-Mail I think I'm gonna enjoy Chrome Shelled Regios alot. :D

I agree the manga seems a lot better when it comes to interaction between Ferri and Lai'fon, however we've yet to see episode two. I don't think it'll make any different, but I hope they won't dumb her, since charracters like Ferri (read mysterious and withdrawing) are usually forgotten and left behind.

DangerMouse
2009-01-15, 23:26
I loved Felli in that first ep, usually the taciturn character only gives the vaguest of hints of emotion under the "mask" and only after several episodes of "mystery", but right off the bat from the first ep we already see her hilariously letting off steam in private beating the crap out of the pipe with it's exaggerated animation and screaming at it before recomposing herself, it usually takes like 10 episodes to get a scene like that from the "mysterious girl".

And Nina was much better than the usual female lead character bringing in the main male character to their team, less antics than usual and she actually requests him and the scene where she does was good too, ofcourse it helps that he's actually a main character with some skills. I think I'm going to like her too.

I liked the show's focus on setting up and offering good action because it's been a really long time since we've gotten a downright plot-based action adventure (non-shonen-jump style I mean) with likeable characters like what the first episode offered.

Secca
2009-01-16, 09:37
Oh damn that battle in the first episode is really cool. Those guys are bad ass and one insane bug. ^^

ThoHell
2009-01-17, 17:46
Poor Lai'fon can't seem to make anyone happy, everyone seems to be pushing him. Guess that's because he's hiding his true self. Hmm this should be interesting watching him reveal himself. Guess we're going to have to build him some resolve or something....

Boduar
2009-01-17, 19:21
More likely he needs to lose his resolve in order to show his powers. His resolve is the only thing that allowed him to try and keep himself in the General Ed. department instead of going with what he knows hes good at.

ThoHell
2009-01-17, 20:02
I still don't like the student body president, those type of characters are just ridiculous. Acts like he has been through it all, like some old geezer pretending to be young again. I wish they stop making characters this these in series.

Manji Midou
2009-01-17, 20:23
hmm....
why did both girls seem to get mad at him in the end?

Skyfall
2009-01-17, 20:50
hmm....
why did both girls seem to get mad at him in the end?

Most likely because he was attending the competition half-heartedly, despite his team relying on him to do his best. Basically a case of "If you could do that, why not do it from the start and let us get smacked around first?". They are taking the whole deal rather seriously, and there are likely some feelings of hurt 'professional pride' seeing someone not giving it their all when the rest of them are working their best.

Well, at least that is how i interpret it.

ThoHell
2009-01-17, 20:59
Most likely because he was attending the competition half-heartedly, despite his team relying on him to do his best. Basically a case of "If you could do that, why not do it from the start and let us get smacked around first?". They are taking the whole deal rather seriously, and there are likely some feelings of hurt 'professional pride' seeing someone not giving it their all when the rest of them are working their best.

Well, at least that is how i interpret it.

Basically there is no competition with him involved. If he does everything then all they will do is rely on him. Basically this, he's far above their league and can easily slaughter them... he knows he should be there. It's like a professional playing against a child. I think you get what I'm saying, so I'll drop it there.

Estaron
2009-01-17, 22:21
why did both girls seem to get mad at him in the end?

Nina felt her pride destroyed. (You will see in ep3 probably.) Feli thought he would act like she did and not play it serious, as you can see from her 'Traitor' comment at the end. (Feli wants to go against the people's expectations of her being a Psychokinesist. She thought that Layfon had the same beliefs, as he seemed to not want to be a Military Artist though both were talented.)

Tyrone Biggums
2009-01-18, 01:43
This show is amazing.

Manji Midou
2009-01-18, 02:55
l see.... sucks to be layfon right now. :(

arkxkra
2009-01-18, 06:12
ep2 was amazing, good. and it really very unbalanced...

the main character use his get serious then 3 enemy just down in no time >.<". look like both girl also hate him now lol, I guess it will ok in few episode more.

jennkei
2009-01-18, 11:34
I agree with Estaron's interpretation...
Subsequently, he gets two females angry at him -- Nina for hiding his secret from her, Fellis for revealing his powers when Fellis hinted he should hide it. Also, lol for OPed Layfon. XD
From my blog post on episode 2 (http://booksanime.today.com/2009/01/18/koukaku-no-regios-2-how-to-annoy-women/), which includes some screenshots. =) Somehow I enjoyed this ep... and yay, they left the bugs alone for a bit! XD

Anyone know when ep2 airs>?
Koukaku no Regios airs on Sundays at 3am Japan time (GMT+9), if I'm not wrong. You can have a look at a page I set up showing a countdown for the next episodes (http://booksanime.today.com/winter-08-09-anime/) of anime this season. ^^

zibi88
2009-01-18, 11:43
Well I think that Nina is kinda hurt and angry at herself since even since she tryed her best she was still unable to beat that guy.... and when she saw Layfon power that took town those guys like they were some kind of dolls... she mostly felt that what she was doing for all those years of training...... well as the result she could feel that Layfon was looking down at her all the time and his earlier fight was only becouse he has to fight and not that he wanted too (just like he was only playing while she was trying her best)

Hmm Fellis could be angry becouse she told him not to show that power yet he showed it and betrayed her the same.... it was her brothers intention to see that power and so from now on everyone will rely on Layfon's power to gain victiory... it's like he dug his own grave.... from now on he has no way to change classes from military to general

-Sho-
2009-01-18, 13:43
Waiting for the sub ! Ep2 seems promising :)

NakedAngelX
2009-01-18, 18:10
Everything's pretty straight forward, except
Layfon has those super powers from the start? I thought he's just a noob with good potential xD. And why was he called a traitor in the end?

Estaron
2009-01-18, 18:38
Everything's pretty straight forward, except
Layfon has those super powers from the start? I thought he's just a noob with good potential xD. And why was he called a traitor in the end?

Yes he does have them from start. The first scenes of ep1 were set 5 years ago. Already Layfon had super powers at that time. The reason why he was called a traitor is... My interpretation: Feli thought she was in agreement with Layfon on not using their full abilities and to pretend to be weak, but Layfon breached the agreement. However it is quite ironic that she was the one that told him the captain was about to get beaten (which is like asking him to help the captain.)

slidingk1
2009-01-18, 22:50
Please I hope they keep the emo out of this and just make it kick ass like it is so far.

margafred
2009-01-18, 23:39
Another nice episode.With the beginning showing Nina's past in the intercity match,where she almost grabbed the opponent's flag but somehow was stopped by her own member team (now is the leader of group 16).Not sure if the guy who stopped her intended to make her (and his) team loose altho he saved her from the attack,at the cost of losing the match.From there she swore to herself that she won't give up and never ever loose again to anyone,anymore again.

As for Layfon,he is surely an asshole,not only for hiding his true power and releasing it during critical time and single handedly beating all the group 16 members (which caught everyone's attention at that time),but also slowly becomes the main harem in this series.Nina that fought him during the training match,almost lose her chin to Layfon altho it was just Layfon's fast attack without even using his power.But when Nina said she wanna try her power skill,she was surprised that Layfon didn't counter it with his own power,instead he was just defending using his muscle strength,and being pushed away to the wall and faint,which caused Nina to disappoint,since she had an eye for Layfon's strength eversince she saw how he stopped the quarrel between 2 Military Arts students in ep 1.

But the incident during the trial match between group 16 and 17 revealed Layfon's true strength.For whole time things seems to do hard for group 17,but when Layfon released his true power,and beating group 16 down single handedly,Nina was shocked,caused the Layfon she saw at that time was totally different with Layfon that ended up in the hospital becoz of her own attack.He has this much power to begin with,then what was that training all about then?Her pride was completely shattered,as she realized that this was her "complete defeat" to Layfon.Layfon was totally not on the same par as her,and if ever Layfon uses his true power during the training,it would be her that ended up in the hospital instead.

Feli seems to know this whole things about Layfon's power.From what she observed while sitting beside Layfon's body on the bed (damn),she saw how Layfon's body was healed completely.And from there she knew that Layfon was truly strong...and i'm not really sure about Feli's being highly hoped by everyone to become what she against to,but she said before Layfon left the train,that he also was the same like her,and she hoped that she don't respond to all of that,and just act in the way he is.However Layfon ignored that words from Feli during the last minute,and now he has become the centre of the crowd's attention,and Feli felt betrayed by Layfon's action.

I think what actually happen here was,when Feli uses her telepathy power to transfer Nina's thought at that time to Layfon,she probably did it with the intention of Layfon using his power to save her from being bashed by group 16's leader,just like what he did in episode 1.But it was the opposite that happened...Layfon used his power to not only saved Nina but also made his team won the trial match.Probably if Layfon's action was only to save Nina and not defeating the whole members of group 16 and captured their flag,then it wouldn't make Feli feel so bad.But of course Layfon didn't think like that especially after hearing Nina's thought of never want to lose and don't want to be defeated.He had no choice but to respond to Nina's thought.

The whole storyline were crafted beautifully...lots of plots,revelations and character development in here.I guess that's what happen when a true hero trying to be a jerk and look goofy,gaining lots of fame and harem-ity,but also have to face lots of drama and QQ from everyone around him.Layfon was surely one interesting character in here....i wonder how he gonna live his life in such world where he not only have to hide his true identity and power,but also have to become the centre of attention among the girls in that academy,when he already has a girlfriend to begin with :heh:

Now we have the OP,i only like the 2nd half of the OP where the fighting scenes started.The first half where the main characters were introduced didn't seem to appeal that much to me.Well overall it wasn't that bad i guess?And just like last week,this episode too didn't have any ED on it.

This episode i give it 9.5/10.Abit improvement than last week i guess? :heh: Minus 0.5 point becoz of Layfon being an asshole,altho i like it. :heh:

iceyfw
2009-01-19, 00:39
that is by far the most boring op i have seen recently. the ed will appear next week so cross your fingers it won't be the same. and i can't see a harem being built around layfon at this point. how i wish i could read the novels in japanese.

KK1412
2009-01-19, 02:04
Damn Layfon is awesome, im a bit shocked that the anime storyline is completely different from the manga storylines

zibi88
2009-01-19, 03:36
But I wonder who was that girl in ep1 that kissed Layfon when he was entering the bus (sister rather not, girlfriend hmmm I dont think so either since would he leave her like that.... I think it could be childhood friend who stayed at his side till end) maybe someone who reads manga can tell me if they revealed it that is ^^

margafred <-- who do you have on your mind with the Layfons "girlfiend" ?? the girl from Layfons home who kissed him when he was leaveing or Michi the one he saved in ep1 and now she is makeing him bentou xD ??

Anyway Layfon is not to blame here since he said loud and clear that he doesnt want to fight anymore and he wants to live normal life like others... yet he was forced agains his will to enter military unit.... no one knows his past (except mostly the principal guy who forced him to join there) and what he went throught.... and now his triger to show his power was Feli if she didnt let Layfon hear what Nina was thiking then he wouldnt have to show it and win the match for Nina...

And well Nina is to blame here too... she forced Layfon to fight even throught he didnt wanted too... and now she learned the consequences of seeing Layfon beign a profesional way further than her.... that kind of thing happen when a person doesnt listen to another ^^

TRU
2009-01-19, 05:03
Everything's pretty straight forward, except
Layfon has those super powers from the start? I thought he's just a noob with good potential xD. And why was he called a traitor in the end?

In the beginning of the first episode, it was a flashback from a few years ago when Layfon was still a young boy. The old lady that was shown during that fight has similar powers as Feli, which is a power that lets them change the appearance of another person and maybe things as well. So he had an older body. I believe it was because he has the skills and power during that time but was limited by his age and body. So they made him older during that battle so that he could gain experience.

rpgkiller999
2009-01-19, 07:34
In the beginning of the first episode, it was a flashback from a few years ago when Layfon was still a young boy. The old lady that was shown during that fight has similar powers as Feli, which is a power that lets them change the appearance of another person and maybe things as well. So he had an older body. I believe it was because he has the skills and power during that time but was limited by his age and body. So they made him older during that battle so that he could gain experience.

I didn't read the novel, but it seems to me Layfon was indeed young in the flashback, not some appearance magic from the old lady. The prove is the white hair student council was still a boy in the bus shaking in the bus. Of course, I am just assuming that white hair boy is the student council, but it seem to connect how he knows Layfon's power and want him to understand the ones fighting for the city.

AlaAlba
2009-01-19, 07:40
In the beginning of the first episode, it was a flashback from a few years ago when Layfon was still a young boy. The old lady that was shown during that fight has similar powers as Feli, which is a power that lets them change the appearance of another person and maybe things as well. So he had an older body. I believe it was because he has the skills and power during that time but was limited by his age and body. So they made him older during that battle so that he could gain experience.
lololol
that s sooo untrue :nono::bash::heh:, Felli and that old hag's job are to support the fighter by relaying the picture faraway, detecting enemies position and enable fighter and fighter to speak real-time in the battle. no such appearance changing abilities :eyespin:

ipernorris
2009-01-19, 11:22
lololol
that s sooo untrue :nono::bash::heh:, Felli and that old hag's job are to support the fighter by relaying the picture faraway, detecting enemies position and enable fighter and fighter to speak real-time in the battle. no such appearance changing abilities :eyespin:

Ehm they have the technology to build the regios (the self-sustainable cities) and they don't even have the radio?!? :heh:


Anyway in episode 1 Layfon said he wanted to start things from scratch again... but that's ludicrous because it would be like having Einstein among the students in an elementary school! :eyespin:
In fact the end of episode 2 was pure ownage: I think I understand the feelings of Layfon's captain (the blonde chick)... how can she manage to be the captain of squadron 17 after what happened?!? She must be really smart at least, because strength wise she's an ant compared to Layfon.

Does anybody know how long this series will be?

jennkei
2009-01-19, 12:21
I think I got 12 from ANN, but not sure where they got the info from (since it's not listed on Moonphase)...hrm.

asrielchase
2009-01-19, 13:27
how can she manage to be the captain of squadron 17 after what happened?!? She must be really smart at least, because strength wise she's an ant compared to Layfon.



Among the students in the city Nina is actually pretty good, at least she's considered to "have potential". And everyone in that city is an ant compared to Layfon.

Tiamat's Disciple
2009-01-19, 13:37
I don't have an issue with Layfon being superman, i remember a nother show that turned out out awesome where the male lead was superman from the start: Heroic Age.

If they do the same here, where it's his personality and attitude that matures rather than his abilities it could be an interesting turn of events, much like HA was.

That said, i can't understand why they got angry with him TBH. Lets face it, he didn't want to be there, he was manipulated and forced into it. He got moved a bit by her desire to win and acted. So now he's hated sheesh. Typical woman. :P If he's sat there and done nothing whats the odds he's still of ended up being hated hehe

From what i've seen so far, there;'s probably on a few on the planet that can compare to Layfon, most people would be like anys to him. He's one of the heroic tribe from HA :D

Manji Midou
2009-01-19, 14:29
anyone whose read the manga....can they tell me if we get to see the girl that kissed in the first again and whats their relationship? l r curious.......

asrielchase
2009-01-19, 14:41
That said, i can't understand why they got angry with him TBH. Lets face it, he didn't want to be there, he was manipulated and forced into it. He got moved a bit by her desire to win and acted. So now he's hated sheesh. Typical woman. :P If he's sat there and done nothing whats the odds he's still of ended up being hated hehe


I think it's exactly the "he didn't want to be there" part that irritates Nina. She wants to protect the city very much and if she had powers like that she'd be more than glad to use them. That's why she couldn't understand how someone so powerful like Layfon would refuse to use his abilities. But Layfon has his reasons too so can't really say who's at fault there, just a conflict of their beliefs.

ThinkTank
2009-01-19, 14:57
anyone whose read the manga....can they tell me if we get to see the girl that kissed in the first again and whats their relationship? l r curious.......


From what I have read in 2 manga versions that would be a no, but there isn't a whole lot of it scanlated.

I find it interesting that the anime and the 2 versions of the manga that I have read all start out differently, and they all give off a good unique atmosphere.

Estaron
2009-01-19, 15:18
I think I got 12 from ANN, but not sure where they got the info from (since it's not listed on Moonphase)...hrm.
According to their blog, it's 24eps
ttp://anime.webnt.jp/regios/2008/12/post_62.php

anyone whose read the manga....can they tell me if we get to see the girl that kissed in the first again and whats their relationship? l r curious.......

I didn't read the manga, but in the novel she will appear again. She's an important character, and rather might be considered the main heroine. Most likely she will come up in the anime since she's in the OP scenes. Her name is something like Lilin Marfess (I don't know the correct spelling.)

Manji Midou
2009-01-19, 16:25
From what I have read in 2 manga versions that would be a no, but there isn't a whole lot of it scanlated.

I find it interesting that the anime and the 2 versions of the manga that I have read all start out differently, and they all give off a good unique atmosphere.


Ah, I see...it be nice if she became a pernament character in the anime....






I didn't read the manga, but in the novel she will appear again. She's an important character, and rather might be considered the main heroine. Most likely she will come up in the anime since she's in the OP scenes. Her name is something like Lilin Marfess (I don't know the correct spelling.)

Ohz....
That's great to hear, l liked her from the first time l saw her. l feel sorry for nina, the loli and that other girl if that is the case though... since they seem destined to fall for him.

ipernorris
2009-01-19, 17:23
That said, i can't understand why they got angry with him TBH. Lets face it, he didn't want to be there, he was manipulated and forced into it. He got moved a bit by her desire to win and acted. So now he's hated sheesh. Typical woman. :P If he's sat there and done nothing whats the odds he's still of ended up being hated hehe

Well the blond chick captain got angry because:
1) she felt fooled by Layfon... she was all worried about the damages he took from the sparring with her while he only pretended to be weak.
2) she feels frustrated because, after all of her hard work, she was going to lose the match while Layfon single handedly won...
3) she won't be a captain because of her strength, but because of her smartness. Well Layfon for that aspect can be made admiral or something! :heh:

What I don't understand is the radio silver haired chick: why is she pissed of?!?
She asked Layfon to help her captain by sending her thoughts and after Layfon does this she says he's a traitor? Maybe all of that purple petals (or what the hell they are) messed up her brain! :D
Someone here suggested that the radio chick wanted Layfon to save the captain only, without capturing the flag... but that would be pointless because after saving the captain Layfon's powers would have been revealed.
The only explanation that comes to my mind is that the radio chick wanted Layfon to save the captain with the freeware version of his powers, not with the premium one. :D If that's the case the purple petals messed up her brain for real because the freeware powers were absolutely inadequate.

zibi88
2009-01-19, 18:00
Fellis (silver haired loli girl) mostly is angry becouse Layfon done the thing that her brother was waiting for... revealing his power.... her brother was responsible for Layfons joining the military art group (he hired those two guys in ep1 to fight and make layfon show if its truly him....felis saw that and called him bastard..becouse he is playing with peoples lifes if he sees any profit for himself)

In ep1 we see the current principal (fellis big brother) pissing his pants like a baby when he was in that car durring that monster attack.... yet he saw what those fighters are capable of doing and now he has Layfon in his hands..... he has a strong power and will use him for his personal matches against other cities....

For me the most important thing is who what girl at the beggining of ep1 is (the orange haired who kissed Layfon) ^^ is she Layfons childhood friend, daughter of the majesty or is she the spirit of that town that's why she cant leave the city (she could always go together with Layfon)

I hope that durring episodes we will learn more about Layfons past and what happened that he decided to leave that town (according to first manga chapter Layfon was banished by the majesty (and she took his sword away) becouse he lost a fight....so he decided to leave the town...but nothing about that girl)

Well we have to wait and see but from the OP it seems that Layfon will return to that town with his friends

iceyfw
2009-01-19, 18:26
I hope that durring episodes we will learn more about Layfons past and what happened that he decided to leave that town (according to first manga chapter Layfon was banished by the majesty (and she took his sword away) becouse he lost a fight....so he decided to leave the town...but nothing about that girl)
i highly doubt that. in the prologue layfon states her majesty banished him from grendan. they don't give us a reason on why she banned layfon. and no, he didn't decide. he had no choice but to leave. you have to also keep in mind Missing Mail tells a different story of layfon. they changed his personality completely 360 and how the events around him change from the novel. i'm sure they'll explain his past more thoroughly in the anime.

and chapter one says he made one mistake as a martial artist that forced him to leave. they don't give us any more information than what happened.

zibi88
2009-01-19, 18:35
i highly doubt that. in the prologue layfon states her majesty banished him from grendan. they don't give us a reason on why she banned layfon. and no, he didn't decide. he had no choice but to leave. you have to also keep in mind Missing Mail tells a different story of layfon. they changed his personality completely 360 and how the events around him change from the novel. i'm sure they'll explain his past more thoroughly in the anime.

We dont know on what story we are baseing in the anime... manga...novels... since each is different ^^ so if you readed some novels could you tell who is that girl that kissed layfon at the begining ? (was there anything about it ? )

Maybe the anime will have its own story ;] time will show but hmmm I woder if there will be 13 or 25 episodes

AlaAlba
2009-01-19, 18:37
personally I d like to see the purple haired girl to join into Reifon's harem, she s better than Meishen ;) but that would make it 2 strong girls(I know they re not that strong, but hey, they can fight) in his harem.

According to their blog, it's 24eps
ttp://anime.webnt.jp/regios/2008/12/post_62.php

oh you re right, it s 24 eps, :hyper-^v^: thanks for the info.

Cinocard
2009-01-19, 18:45
Who cares? get 'em all :cool:

Fellis (silver haired loli girl) mostly is angry becouse Layfon done the thing that her brother was waiting for... revealing his power.... her brother was responsible for Layfons joining the military art group (he hired those two guys in ep1 to fight and make layfon show if its truly him....felis saw that and called him bastard..becouse he is playing with peoples lifes if he sees any profit for himself)



The point is, She ask Him to do it. So next time do it yourself, or don't bitch :rolleyes:

you have to also keep in mind Missing Mail tells a different story of layfon. they changed his personality completely 360 and how the events around him change from the novel. i'm sure they'll explain his past more thoroughly in the anime.



Oh so Missing Mail isn't the one that follow the novel but the other version?

iceyfw
2009-01-19, 18:57
Oh so Missing Mail isn't the one that follow the novel but the other version?
the manga Crome Shelled Regios focuses more on Nina. we get to see more of her past and what she thinks in situations.

TrueKnight
2009-01-19, 19:45
So judging from the posts and spoilers galore above, Layfon's Superman like strength with godlike powers are here to stay and it's well given that he's going to establish his group of unique harem (consisting the orange-haired childhood friend, blonde-haired squad captain, white/silverhaired loli and black-haired chick) with him being the alpha male?

Oh yes I think I'm gonna like this show.

jennkei
2009-01-19, 20:11
A point someone raised on the previous page about Nina getting kicked off as leader....I sincerely doubt Layfon wants to be the leader anyway. And it's not always the strongest person who gets to lead -- usually should be the one with the most drive/leadership skills, and Nina certainly has the former.

Lol Trueknight. I'd be kicking the show off my to-watch list if that's the case! Oh wait...it kinda is...haha.

Cinocard
2009-01-19, 22:47
Yeah, obviously someone that does not want to fight would want to be the leader.

And the talk about one's drive, i guess something major will eventually happen to throw everyone in the circle. This anime certainly aren't just gonna be about the tournament.


I want the sub :(

the manga Crome Shelled Regios focuses more on Nina. we get to see more of her past and what she thinks in situations.

Well, i really don't care how the author handle the panel or narrating, but how are the events follow the novel?

TrueKnight
2009-01-19, 22:54
I want the sub :(

*in a desperate agreement*

gonzo562
2009-01-19, 23:10
*in a desperate agreement*

in desperate agreement also

i watched the raw. I think im getting better at understanding japenese ;)( but still i want subs ;(:(

holyman282
2009-01-20, 00:01
does the hd and sd versions come out on different stations and on different dates?

Necroseer
2009-01-20, 04:02
The HD ones tend to come out a few days after the SD. Unfortunately I'm not quite sure about how the stations broadcast them -wry-.

ipernorris
2009-01-20, 04:25
The HD ones tend to come out a few days after the SD. Unfortunately I'm not quite sure about how the stations broadcast them -wry-.
This is quite a nonsense if we think about it carefully: from an hd raw you can extract an sd raw, but not the opposite, even if there is the upscaling possibility.
So if there are hd raws around this means the tv stations air the show in hd, then the fansubbing groups decide what to distribute: hd only, hd and sd or only sd raws.
The hd version should be out BEFORE the sd version because the sd version is encoded from the hd version. Well it keeps happening anyway so I don't know what to think but I don't care really much... the important thing is having a fansub version after all! :D

Boduar
2009-01-20, 04:38
Glad the subs came out helps a lot with understanding exactly whats going on. Watched the RAW and most of what the president said went right over my head but after watching the sub makes me think hes just that much more of a bastard.

Edit: Of course if this show was Death Note/Code Geass and that bastard was the main character I guess he would be awesome ... go go tricking the super powerful people to be your underlings yeeaahh.

gonzo562
2009-01-20, 05:55
for episode 1. In the beginning Did anyone else think that the the silver hair eye glass kid in the vehicle looks just like the president

or it was it just me

holyman282
2009-01-20, 06:11
This is quite a nonsense if we think about it carefully: from an hd raw you can extract an sd raw, but not the opposite, even if there is the upscaling possibility.
So if there are hd raws around this means the tv stations air the show in hd, then the fansubbing groups decide what to distribute: hd only, hd and sd or only sd raws.
The hd version should be out BEFORE the sd version because the sd version is encoded from the hd version. Well it keeps happening anyway so I don't know what to think but I don't care really much... the important thing is having a fansub version after all! :D

If i remember the channel that broadcasts it first only does it in SD, while the HD comes afterwards. Which makes me wonder what days does the HD version of regios broadcasts, I'm a real quality junky but i'm so tempted to get the SD version just to watch the show.

alu546
2009-01-20, 06:38
It seems worth watching, as it seems like the storyline has alot of depht.

The characters as a whole were interesting ( president seems like he'll be a villain soon enough) . Wow Mei was cute. Oh well, ep 2 now...

EDIT : ep 2 was entertaining as well, bit olf an emotionall cliff hanger., so i cant wait for ep3

and Mei/Macchi/Black Haired Girl was cute again this wee k as well.

zibi88
2009-01-20, 06:43
for episode 1. In the beginning Did anyone else think that the the silver hair eye glass kid in the vehicle looks just like the president

or it was it just me


It was mentioned 1-2 pages ago.... but yes that is the young Zeneli principal...(strange back there he was pissing his pants and now he is such a cheater)


I wodner how old Layfon was back in that his first training (from ep1) since he looked older that principal.... and now principal lookes older than Layfon ^^

TrueKnight
2009-01-20, 09:34
Crap ep 2 is out. Thanks for Ayako for bringing this!

Good moments while waiting Obama's inaguration. :D

ipernorris
2009-01-20, 09:43
From the animedb pic of this anime the true main character doesn't seem to be Layfon anyway, but the chick from the flashback in episode 1.

TrueKnight
2009-01-20, 10:09
Ep 2 lol wut Layfon went Super Saiyajin looking GAR beating the shit out of the 16th platoon plus saving Nina but ended up getting shunned by both Nina and Feli. I guess Nina's pissed because Layfon held back against her ended up looking good while Feli's pissed because Layfon didn't follow her method on hiding/holding back their godlike powers.

Lmao Layfon you dumbass you completely wasted Meicchin love lunchbox, but he ended up getting Nina's and interesting interactions with her which aint so bad.

Feels like Layfon is gonnna be a celebrity next week with the head dude of the Military Arts is amazed and in awe with his combat-prowess. I mean even Meicchin's friends (Mifi and the purple haired chick) have eyes for Layfon. I guess, all other students powers in the Academy are like ants for him. Is Grenden City warrior alumnis are THAT powerful?

marsd
2009-01-20, 10:31
Uhh xD...

I found a weeny mistake the xvid orz. Layfon says in 08:56, "boku no ude ha migi yori hidari no hou ga wazuka ni nagai desuyo...", "僕の腕は右より左のほうがわずかに長いですよ..."

http://ayako-fansubs.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1819

Heh...Woops.

zibi88
2009-01-20, 10:36
Well we could say that Feli is here to blame ^^ if she wouldnt let Layfon hear Ninas throughts that he wouldnt had to show his powers in order to save Nina and win a match for her.... Feli could always let Layfon hear Ninas throughts but than she could add her own like "but dont expose your true power" or something like that...

And so at the end Feli is mad becouse he revealed his powers.... I quite dont understand what Feli is thinking....

Nina too she only thinks about herself.... even throught Layfon said that he doesnt want to fight and that he doesnt want to be in military art. class she doesnt listen and thinks about herself...... and now that Layfon saved her ass and won mathc for group17 she is all mad at him becouse he is stronger from her.....

ehhh Layfon should throw that and go back to the girl from the beggining ^^

And now Layfon exposed his power, 2girls are mad at him even throught he is not the one to blame ^^ , and many girls are now after Layfon so Meicchi has sooo many rivals xD poor her ;]

Pirate
2009-01-20, 10:39
pff, who needs those two when he got a whole herd of em now ^^

On a more serious point doh, I cant really blame Layfon hiding his "gar power" since he wanted to start a new. He pretty much got pushed into a corner and he could just let her get her ass kicked or help her and I think he did the right thing. ^^

zibi88
2009-01-20, 10:48
Yep noone cares what Layfon wants from his life.... and the principal thinks only about himself.... he doesnt know what past Layfon had and that he wanted to start a normal life.... well we can say similar thing about Nina... she is obsesed with squad17 to get strong and when Layfon showed that his powers are above hers she got mad.... ehhh those womans///

Layfon can use his gar power to kick that principals ass xD or gather huge harem and take principals place ;]


But now the question is from where did the principal got his information about Layfon's powers.... maybe from that study applications and when he saw from where Layfon is he assumed that every one from there has inhuman powers ^^

ipernorris
2009-01-20, 11:11
Yep noone cares what Layfon wants from his life.... and the principal thinks only about himself.... he doesnt know what past Layfon had and that he wanted to start a normal life.... well we can say similar thing about Nina... she is obsesed with squad17 to get strong and when Layfon showed that his powers are above hers she got mad.... ehhh those womans///

You made a nice point here: I mean if Layfon take that aspect into the discussion the two chicks will be silenced up in no time. We have a wannabe strong captain chick and a crybaby radio chick who can only whine! They're referred to as senpai by Layfon but they're nothing like a senpai should be... then the other chicks are cheer leaders and the other dudes are weak. To top it off there is a so called president who piss in his own pants when there is danger: it's no wonder that regios lost that mine! :D

meh
2009-01-20, 11:13
Well we could say that Feli is here to blame ^^ if she wouldnt let Layfon hear Ninas throughts that he wouldnt had to show his powers in order to save Nina and win a match for her.... Feli could always let Layfon hear Ninas throughts but than she could add her own like "but dont expose your true power" or something like that...

And so at the end Feli is mad becouse he revealed his powers.... I quite dont understand what Feli is thinking....

Nina too she only thinks about herself.... even throught Layfon said that he doesnt want to fight and that he doesnt want to be in military art. class she doesnt listen and thinks about herself...... and now that Layfon saved her ass and won mathc for group17 she is all mad at him becouse he is stronger from her.....

ehhh Layfon should throw that and go back to the girl from the beggining ^^

And now Layfon exposed his power, 2girls are mad at him even throught he is not the one to blame ^^ , and many girls are now after Layfon so Meicchi has sooo many rivals xD poor her ;]

Well, Layfon was kind of ambiguous in his interest. He wasn't so much purposely avoiding being gar, but rather didn't think it was something to "show off". As in, he didn't want to waste energy doing something he has no interest doing.

So both gals basically pegged him wrong. Feli thought he was purposely hiding his powers. And Nina thought he fought at full strength and just wasn't refined. When it was neither. He was powerful and just didn't feel like using all his skills unless it was necessary.

Yep noone cares what Layfon wants from his life.... and the principal thinks only about himself.... he doesnt know what past Layfon had and that he wanted to start a normal life.... well we can say similar thing about Nina... she is obsesed with squad17 to get strong and when Layfon showed that his powers are above hers she got mad.... ehhh those womans///

Layfon can use his gar power to kick that principals ass xD or gather huge harem and take principals place ;]


But now the question is from where did the principal got his information about Layfon's powers.... maybe from that study applications and when he saw from where Layfon is he assumed that every one from there has inhuman powers ^^

I think the principal can be somewhat excused, since it was basically the entire city being in jepardy here, not just some selfish pride thing going on. Nina though I agree with you.

As for the reason why the principal knew, it should be explained next episode.

TrueKnight
2009-01-20, 11:19
Yeah, I mean Layfon's so badass that even the stupid puny looking sword couldn't keep with him.

If Layfon's smart after the battle he should go to a cafeteria or something where girls like to gossip and then they would simply went 'kyaah' and 'Layfon sempai you're so unbelievably cool just know'. And then Layfon should went Lelouch with an evil smirk 'just as planned'. It'll be perfect.

But nah, seems like he's too much to be a good guy for that. I mean the guy is humble and doesn't like to stand out much for cryin' out loud.

ipernorris
2009-01-20, 12:58
I think to have understood why the silver haired chick (Felli?) behaved like she did. Those purple petal of hers are like a walkie-talkie for each team member so anyone can hear what the other members think thus allowing real time communication between team members, even when they're far from each other. (they could have really used just a walkie-talkie and reserving the silver haired chick for another use, but it's ok anyway... :D)
In episode 1 the silver haired chick said "someone save her" referring to the black haired chick who was going to get smashed by the crumbling roof. She didn't say "Layfon save her" or "Cool dude with blue eyes and brown hair save her" so she made a broadcast trasmission directed to anyone able to save the black chick, not directly to Layfon. This must be the case even because she didn't know Layfon before the entrance cerimony, at least we haven't evidence so far about that.
In episode 2 a similiar thing happened, but only limited to the members of her team: she only an wireless petal service provider, the users can say whatever they like with the connection she provides. This would explain why she's pissed of at Leyfon.

Manji Midou
2009-01-20, 13:17
ehhh Layfon should throw that and go back to the girl from the beggining ^^


Here, here, that sounds good....she needs more screen time....!!!:)
Layfon seems to be making such a female fanbase so early on....including felis and nina even if they are mad at him at the moment.

holyman282
2009-01-20, 13:51
This show is awesome, I love the action and the characters. Also I really enjoy a shounen type anime where the main character is already pretty gar level strong from the beginning. Haven't really seen a good one since kaze no Stigma.

ThoHell
2009-01-20, 13:56
Damn Layfon is awesome, im a bit shocked that the anime storyline is completely different from the manga storylines

He's awesome but pisses me off. He's strong and obviously gone through serious strict training, yet he's being pushed around so easily and can't even say no. This is lame, where did all his discipline go or whatever? An awesome character being ruined by this stupid comic stuff. The student president and all his goons are nothing to him, yet he's letting himself get pushed around when he had decided to do seomthing.

FuzzyWuzzy
2009-01-20, 14:01
Psh, layfon should have hidden his powers but he had to go power up with yellow things glowing around him. He should have completely and utterly should have gone with his resolve to be a normal student so we can enjoy a nice quiet harem school comedy and not an action packed roller coaster thrill ride with wthpwning leet super duper one shot killing machine anime.

holyman282
2009-01-20, 14:35
Psh, layfon should have hidden his powers but he had to go power up with yellow things glowing around him. He should have completely and utterly should have gone with his resolve to be a normal student so we can enjoy a nice quiet harem school comedy and not an action packed roller coaster thrill ride with wthpwning leet super duper one shot killing machine anime.

I pretty bad at discerning sarcasm, but i'm pretty sure that was it lol!

I really liked Layfon's character, I reckon the Nina was being unfair as in the beginning she was disappointed because Layfon didn't meet her expectations then when he does she gets angry at him.

SkoolRumble4Ya
2009-01-20, 18:16
I don't get why the silver hair girl was angry at Layfon. Didn't she send him Nina voice?

Cinocard
2009-01-20, 18:21
Because she's a Loli. Getting mad without whatsoever sense. She wants Leyfon to save Nina, but hate him for using his power :rolleyes:

zibi88
2009-01-20, 18:22
But man Layfon came to this city so he could start a new life the one he choices for himself and not someone for im (like in previous city wit hmartial arts as base element)..... yet president thinks only about his own profits and he is not thinking about what Layfons wants to do.....

Now after showing his powers he can threaten president XD that he will place him in general art class like he was planing or he will leave to another city so maybe in future he will kick his ass on a city-city match ^^

Many girls are from general art class so they would be happy to have Layfon between then ^^ poor meicchi xD so many love rivals after one episode >__<


I kinda dont understand Ninas thinking.....Layfon showed his power in order to win the match (since they would lose it durring lack of time so she wouldnt even be able to reach the flag in time.... yet defeating that big guy) for her and she is all sulky and mad at him.....

Man what would she do when Layfon would show his true powers durring that morning exercise......she would land in hospital heavly dmged right before the matches started....or she would get totaly depresed that she is weak compared to him and she would fail durring the match.....

So anyway nina would still be pissed in any way:

- when Layfon would show his power to her in the morning sesion she would be in hospital for X time, they would lose the main maches becouse of lack of people and captain....... she would blame Layfon for that lost match... and the same depresed that he is way stronger from her

- like in episode Layfon showed some of his powers to win match for Nina yet she got angry at him becouse he hide it from her....

- if Layfon wouldnt do anything they would lose the match and so Nina would blame everyone for lack of entusiasm and lack of cooperation.... so she would get angry here again....

So every dirrection and Nina is mad.... mostly becouse she sees that she is weak herself and is not a good captain since her commarades dont listen to her (low morale and lack of entusiasm ^^)

so at the end of episode2 she acted little bitchy in my eyes.... she won the match and gained a stong member yet she is mad becouse he is stronger from her.... normaly she should at least show her thanks and be happy that group17 won the match....... and so she could take Layfon as and example to follow and train even harder to become more like him.....

and so Layfon won the match for them the same exposing himself to everyone (took the sacrafiece and his future is again in martial arts.... so his leaving hometown made no difference except he had to part with that girl) and except gratulations and thanks he got 2angry girls (who are hurt becouse of their own complexes....).... and so their reaction made Layfon hurt...

Layfon should say that if she doesnt like it he will leave group17... thow that badge to Ninas legs and say goodbye and good luck.... so Layfon will be happy and Nina will be happy since she would be the strongest in group17 again ^^

germanturkey
2009-01-20, 18:27
i think common consensus here is "quit platoon 17 and start his own harem." i'm in this boat :)

gonzo562
2009-01-20, 18:33
I don't get why the silver hair girl was angry at Layfon. Didn't she send him Nina voice?

she's mad cuz he wanted him to hide his powers like she is doing.

but ya its wierd that she sent him nina's voice and of course he would want to help



i cant wait for episode 3 i love the fight music :> and the fights are awesome :D

iceyfw
2009-01-20, 18:42
why do people keep saying felli's brother keeps doing this and that for his own desires? i can see where he is coming from. he already said in episode 1 Zenri currently owns one selenium mine because they lost city matches for the past two years. now imagine if they were to lose again, the whole city would be in trouble. i mean sure, he could be hiding something and can be deceiving most of the time, but i'm sure the reasons are good at this point in the game.

Traece
2009-01-20, 19:03
I was actually surprised at the quality of this series. I mostly checked it out because it 'seemed' like it could be interesting. The description of it was a little sketchy in my book but this turned out to be a wonderful little gem.

Plus, they start it off 'very' well and introduce the characters and their personalities quite well. Best of all, it's not the sort of series that takes itself 'too seriously' and still allows very cartoony elements to show up like the different eye shapes and such, and does it without distracting from the flow. Being cartoony at the wrong time is something I'm sure we all remember from at least ONE episode of World Destruction (that was a confusing battle...). Since I already mentioned battles, it might be a good idea to say that I was impressed with those as well, and especially Layfon's extreme abilities to make the people around him immediately drop what they're doing and attempt to go to their happy place, unless they're in a tree (in the trees, they do the same thing but wide-eyed and with curse words).

Plus, I'm a sucker for anything with romance in it... This definitely has romantic elements in it, even if those elements might just be people that are in love with other people. Though based on the second episode, our military-hot-shot-that-doesn't-even-want-to-be-such-a-hot-shot-and-would-rather-take-it-easy has some issues to work out with his captain and equally lazy and underachieving psychic comrade.
Layfon's lack of interest in showing/using his natural talents reminds me a lot of me. This series should be a treat for good old Traece! =D

Archmagination2002
2009-01-20, 19:05
I feel so sad for Layfon.

1)His path was chosen the moment he was born with such a powerful Ki organ.(For those that don't know all those in the Military Arts have that extra Ki organ that gives them there special abilities.. like Restoration for weapons. General Arts students usually don't have that organ and thus are mere humans. BTW the Ki organ is like the heart.. getting it damaged can kill the person and there is no way to repair it(outside of regular healing) or create an artificial version of it)

2)Layfon followed the straight path chosen for him. Then Layfon made a mistake and got exiled for it.(Must have been a heck of a mistake to do that!)
3)For the first time in his life Layfon had a choice in what he wanted to do and could do. Also for the first time Layfon had actually doubts himself and what he was doing for all those years.
4)Just when he was getting comfortable in having choices in his life he ends up getting dragged back into Military path.

Poor Layfon.

taelrak
2009-01-20, 19:25
I feel so sad for Layfon.

1)His path was chosen the moment he was born with such a powerful Ki organ.(For those that don't know all those in the Military Arts have that extra Ki organ that gives them there special abilities.. like Restoration for weapons. General Arts students usually don't have that organ and thus are mere humans. BTW the Ki organ is like the heart.. getting it damaged can kill the person and there is no way to repair it(outside of regular healing) or create an artificial version of it)

2)Layfon followed the straight path chosen for him. Then Layfon made a mistake and got exiled for it.(Must have been a heck of a mistake to do that!)
3)For the first time in his life Layfon had a choice in what he wanted to do and could do. Also for the first time Layfon had actually doubts himself and what he was doing for all those years.
4)Just when he was getting comfortable in having choices in his life he ends up getting dragged back into Military path.

Poor Layfon.

Not much sympathy here. Sure, he had the "misfortune" of being born with a certain power and therefore his life was plotted out by others...but how many people actually fully have a choice in what they were born with, or how they'll proceed?

And when he finally could choose, he chooses to turn a blind eye to the actual choices he could have made--he's not choosing to run away from combat, he's choosing to close his eyes and pretend it doesn't exist so he doesn't have to make that choice at all!

I can sympathize with Nina, who has the will but not the ability to do what needs to be done. I can understand the President, who in his role has, and *should* use any and all means to ensure the survival of the city (for the moment assuming that is one of his goals).

But for people like Reifon and Felli - I have no sympathy at all. They need to get over themselves, grow up, and realize that their desire to lead a "normal" life simply won't happen if they don't use what strengths they have to create it.

This story started off deceptively strong, where I almost had the impression that we were dealing with a non-typical rather praiseworthy main character. Instead, it turns out that it's just the stereotypical weak shounen character after all. A bit disappointing, but ah well, still the storyline may be redeeming.

germanturkey
2009-01-20, 19:35
actually the fight scene in this ep was no where near as good as the flashback fight in episode one. this one was short and dull, especially the part where he pulled out his techniques.

TrueKnight
2009-01-20, 19:39
But for people like Reifon and Felli - I have no sympathy at all. They need to get over themselves, grow up, and realize that their desire to lead a "normal" life simply won't happen if they don't use what strengths they have to create it.

This story started off deceptively strong, where I almost had the impression that we were dealing with a non-typical rather praiseworthy main character. Instead, it turns out that it's just the stereotypical weak shounen character after all. A bit disappointing, but ah well, still the storyline may be redeeming.


Well, if Zenri City was somehow a militaristic nation that imposed martial law and military draft is an obligatory for each of its citizens/students then yeah this whole patriotism "for the sake of Zenri City" is visible. Thing is seems like Zenri city is like supposed to be a democratic type where its 'freedom of choice' is the norm?

I mean Grendan (the city where Layfon supposed coming from in EP 01) seems like a militaristic city filled with hardcore warriors, whereas Zenri is filled with weaklings and useless leftovers lol.

Layfon's like Superman who accidentally hits Earth where there he's unbeliavably powerful haha.

tbl
2009-01-20, 19:45
But for people like Reifon and Felli - I have no sympathy at all. They need to get over themselves, grow up, and realize that their desire to lead a "normal" life simply won't happen if they don't use what strengths they have to create it.
I'm guessing their was something tragic in Leyfon's past. Otherwise I'd agree with you.

taelrak
2009-01-20, 19:47
I'm guessing their was something tragic in Leyfon's past. Otherwise I'd agree with you.

I'd be more sympathetic if Felli was taller though. i don't like lolis :(

Archmagination2002
2009-01-20, 22:26
Not much sympathy here. Sure, he had the "misfortune" of being born with a certain power and therefore his life was plotted out by others...but how many people actually fully have a choice in what they were born with, or how they'll proceed?

And when he finally could choose, he chooses to turn a blind eye to the actual choices he could have made--he's not choosing to run away from combat, he's choosing to close his eyes and pretend it doesn't exist so he doesn't have to make that choice at all!

I can sympathize with Nina, who has the will but not the ability to do what needs to be done. I can understand the President, who in his role has, and *should* use any and all means to ensure the survival of the city (for the moment assuming that is one of his goals).

But for people like Reifon and Felli - I have no sympathy at all. They need to get over themselves, grow up, and realize that their desire to lead a "normal" life simply won't happen if they don't use what strengths they have to create it.

This story started off deceptively strong, where I almost had the impression that we were dealing with a non-typical rather praiseworthy main character. Instead, it turns out that it's just the stereotypical weak shounen character after all. A bit disappointing, but ah well, still the storyline may be redeeming.

I don't think I explained it very well.. he is a person who followed a path and excelled at it due to his talent. His was a road with no bumps and then he falls off a cliff.:upset:

That is when this anime starts.. he is trying to find a path for himself for the first time in his life. Because he made a big mistake he lost confidence in himself.

meh
2009-01-20, 23:27
@Archmagination: Might want to add spoiler tags for things that aren't told in the anime yet. His past was only barely revealed so far in the 2 episodes.

Boduar
2009-01-20, 23:44
So far it looks like hes Superman but we havent even seen all the abilities from some of the characters shown in episode 1. Although hes strong theres nothing to say there arent others just as strong or stronger in the city. Most of the reaction was due to the fact that besides the president and his sister everyone was 100% sure he was an average guy if not a bit weaker. If a guy next to you just punched through a brick wall youd go holy shit too. Also whoever talk about how weak the city was compared to Grendan im guessing thats due to anyone who is strong is only there for 6 years then moves whereas in Grendan the "bird in a cage" analogy holds true and anyone they find that is super strong stays.

taelrak
2009-01-20, 23:48
If a guy next to you just punched through a brick wall youd go holy shit too.

No...

...I'd just run.

herbert
2009-01-21, 00:28
I don't get why so many ppl feel hard to understand why Felli sends info. about Nina to Layfon and at same time she is angered because he takes actions.

The reason she inform Layfon is the same with the reason why she never fake info. to her teammates. She draws a line here that she uses as much power as an average nen-i controller possesses. She does her job as good as she can under that power cap, making anyone think that is the best they can ask from her. The rule of that mock battle is that platoon 17 would lose if Nina is beaten, it's her duty to inform rest of the platoon about Nina's condition, and it's within her power to fulfill that duty. Not informing, it's her fault if they lose, and she would be questioned.

Above is why I think she informs Layfon. She expects Layfon does what he has done in his fight with Nina. She expects him to do I-knew-you-were-in-trouble-but-I-was-too-far-away-so-I-couldn't-come-to-help.

Ishe
2009-01-21, 01:50
So far it looks like hes Superman but we havent even seen all the abilities from some of the characters shown in episode 1. Although hes strong theres nothing to say there arent others just as strong or stronger in the city. Most of the reaction was due to the fact that besides the president and his sister everyone was 100% sure he was an average guy if not a bit weaker. If a guy next to you just punched through a brick wall youd go holy shit too. Also whoever talk about how weak the city was compared to Grendan im guessing thats due to anyone who is strong is only there for 6 years then moves whereas in Grendan the "bird in a cage" analogy holds true and anyone they find that is super strong stays.

I doubt anyone in that particular city is anywhere within sight of his powers. If they were, then they wouldn't be losing for 2 straight years. Also, based on the fight he had years prior, I would say he didn't even use a fraction of his true powers even when he did use more power. He seemed to still be holding back quite a bit.

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 08:58
Hmm I kinda agree its too early judging that Layfon's the only top dog in Zenri, I mean we haven't seen all the rest of Zenri City's squads in action yet so we have to wait and see. But nevertheless, the head Military Arts dude looked amazed at Layfon's display of strength, thats gotta mean something i.e 'zomg the guy's broken' and Layfon also beat the 16th Platoon who manage to get close to other city's opposition flag years earlier without breaking a sweat.

margafred
2009-01-21, 09:34
During the opening ceremony in ep 1,there were two ppl (one of it was a student from Military Arts) that seems to know about Layfon's real name,which might hinted that those same person may knew about Layfon's true identity.But so far i think that Layfon MIGHT be the strongest among all the students in Zuellni (according to the name written on their badge) city.


Beside Layfon came from the city known to the other places including Zuellni as the home of the martial arts..altho the series has not revealed yet of the other student in Zuellni that might come from the same place as Layfon,but so far from the way things currently going,Layfon is currently the strongest.

Judging from how CSR started,i guess this series is more closed to the manga CSR Missing Mail story.The original manga seems to start from the point where everyone from Platoon 17 already knew and familiar with Layfon's true power.And from the preview of episode 3,the story might be based from chapter 1 and 2 of the original manga.I won't spoil further than that...you all should know where to read the manga anyway :)

Anyway as for the character naming,i kinda amused that there are so many versions of the character's name,like for example,レイフォン・アルセイフ (reifon aruseifu) becomes Rayfon,Leifon,Layfon..while フェリ・ロス (feri rosu) becomes Fellie,Felli,Feri,and even Fairy/Fairie.Not even the main site put the western romanization of the name..but i guess i prefer Layfon and Fairy (coz she really looks like a fairy). ;)

zibi88
2009-01-21, 10:03
I looked at official website and there are few images of ep3

http://anime.webnt.jp/regios/

It looks like we will see the girl that kissed Layfon at the beggining... and we see that witch from ep1....hmmm is she a lesbian or simply pervered (or she is only teasing that girl)

But well that girl loves Layfon so no worries for that XD maybe Layfon got bunished becouse he got close to that girl and that powerfull witch didnt liked it XDXD

jennkei
2009-01-21, 10:21
Anyway as for the character naming,i kinda amused that there are so many versions of the character's name,like for example,レイフォン・アルセイフ (reifon aruseifu) becomes Rayfon,Leifon,Layfon..while フェリ・ロス (feri rosu) becomes Fellie,Felli,Feri,and even Fairy/Fairie.Not even the main site put the western romanization of the name..but i guess i prefer Layfon and Fairy (coz she really looks like a fairy). ;)

I believe a scene in the first episode (towards the end) has a kind of register/list for people in Platoon 17...moment while I pull out what I noted down on my ep review (http://booksanime.today.com/2009/01/12/koukaku-no-regios-1-damsels-deserts-and-disgustingworms/). "Layfon Alseif......One thing — the characters do have strange names. ._. Felli Loss? Sharnid Elipton? Nina Antalk? (Harley Sutton is pretty normal. XD)" I -am- surprised they don't mention it on the site, though.

Sinestra
2009-01-21, 10:38
I understand that Layfon was forced and tricked into the situation that hes in now. I sympathize with him greatly because he just wanted a normal school life. But things dont always go as planned and what separates men from the boys is how coup and adapt to your situation.

But his actions during the fight pissed me the hell off. Just because you dont want to be there does not mean you put your comrades at risk because it doesnt interest you. "Its ok to lose" NO its not ok to lose because your comrades are working their assess off to win but you held back. The battle could have ended quickly and Nina might have taken less damage. You dont prolong a battle it only leads to more casualties and only when Felli shared her thoughts and it looked like she was going to be taken out did he act. I honestly think Felli and Nina have every right to be pissed off at Layfon.

He needs to understand the situation that hes in NOW not whine about what he does not want to do. The reality is he is in the military arts program and from what i see there is no way out. If he wants to feel dejected about him situation so be in but in battle he better fight to his fullest and move his ass.

Felli words "Traitor" were harsh but i felt accurately described what she was feeling.

Good episode although the fight music once again makes me want to tear my ears off and set them a blaze to protect my high brain functions from degrading from those high pitched repetitive synthesizer notes.

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 10:56
But his actions during the fight pissed me the hell off. Just because you dont want to be there does not mean you put your comrades at risk because it doesnt interest you. "Its ok to lose" NO its not ok to lose because your comrades are working their assess off to win but you held back. The battle could have ended quickly and Nina might have taken less damage. You dont prolong a battle it only leads to more casualties and only when Felli shared her thoughts and it looked like she was going to be taken out did he act. I honestly think Felli and Nina have every right to be pissed off at Layfon.

He needs to understand the situation that hes in NOW not whine about what he does not want to do. The reality is he is in the military arts program and from what i see there is no way out. If he wants to feel dejected about him situation so be in but in battle he better fight to his fullest and move his ass.

Felli words "Traitor" were harsh but i felt accurately described what she was feeling.

Dude I think that's a bit harsh. I mean Layfon didn't want to be in the team at the first place but he's pretty much gotten force into it by Nina and the prez. You gotta feel sorry for the guy, look at this way, his team aren't much of a help either except for Nina. The engineer is practically useless, the sniper is un-cooperative nincompoop and Felli also didn't want to give her best, intends on losing AND she wants Layfon do the same, yes eventhough it means seeing Nina being beaten badly by the tonfa guy. Layfon intends on losing at first, and seems like he's doing that provided his knowing his team won't be getting hurt, but after being transmitted with Felli's brainwave about Nina's situation he abandoned the thought and went GAR and Saiyajin saving Nina's ass.

Basically he's being hated by Felli for using his powers to save Nina but ended up also getting hated by her because he hid his powers from the first place, just because he wanted a normal life.

Skyfall
2009-01-21, 11:06
Felli words "Traitor" were harsh but i felt accurately described what she was feeling.


Except Felli called him a traitor exactly because he used his powers to win the fight :heh: Felli is in the same boat as him - her powers are supposedly also off the charts, but she is holding herself back, just like Layfon did. She called him a traitor because he used his powers and thus breaking what she perceived as their "silent agreement" of not doing so. She indeed feels "betrayed", but for quite the opposite reasons :)

meh
2009-01-21, 11:33
I understand that Layfon was forced and tricked into the situation that hes in now. I sympathize with him greatly because he just wanted a normal school life. But things dont always go as planned and what separates men from the boys is how coup and adapt to your situation.

But his actions during the fight pissed me the hell off. Just because you dont want to be there does not mean you put your comrades at risk because it doesnt interest you. "Its ok to lose" NO its not ok to lose because your comrades are working their assess off to win but you held back. The battle could have ended quickly and Nina might have taken less damage. You dont prolong a battle it only leads to more casualties and only when Felli shared her thoughts and it looked like she was going to be taken out did he act. I honestly think Felli and Nina have every right to be pissed off at Layfon.

He needs to understand the situation that hes in NOW not whine about what he does not want to do. The reality is he is in the military arts program and from what i see there is no way out. If he wants to feel dejected about him situation so be in but in battle he better fight to his fullest and move his ass.

Felli words "Traitor" were harsh but i felt accurately described what she was feeling.

Good episode although the fight music once again makes me want to tear my ears off and set them a blaze to protect my high brain functions from degrading from those high pitched repetitive synthesizer notes.

You might want to wait a bit before judging him. Layfan's way of thinking is actually not the norm of what you'd expect from the "reluctant hero" archtype. It really explains why he has made so many seemingly contradictory decisions up to this point.

As for that particular fight, his logic was that because it wasn't a "real" fight, as there was supposedly nothing on the line, there was no reason for him to actually fight for real.

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 11:43
his logic was that because it wasn't a "real" fight, as there was supposedly nothing on the line, there was no reason for him to actually fight for real.

Yea, if he's for 'real' then the tonfa captain would get anally raped like what Layfon did with the giant bug in Ep 01 back in his younger days lol.

margafred
2009-01-21, 11:48
From my understanding about Fairy


Fairy is the exact opposite of Nina...she hates fighting.She hate challenge and she hate war.She hate her brother for forcing her to what i believe as becoming a member of a platoon,which is something that she really against of.Being a member of a platoon means she has to face alot of fighting,challenge and hardness.Altho she is not a frontliner based on her ability,but being a member of a platoon itself is already enough to get her involved in a fight.

In episode 1,when Layfon asked her if she's the one that sent him the message,she saw the Military Arts uniform,and didn't respond to him.But she knew that it was all because of her bro that forced him to join the Military Arts,just like what he did to her too.She cursed her bro when she saw him talking to the 3 mens (2 of it were the guys that caused the chaotic situation during the ceremony event),which i believed that all the fighting scenes in episode 1 was planned by her bro,to forced Layfon to reveal himself among the students.His bro knew about Layfon even before the fights,and the only thing he need to do was getting a "reason" to transfer him to the Military Arts major,which was what the chaotic event was for.

And in episode 2,she saw how Layfon had great powers within him,but he resisted himself from using it during his fight with Nina,just like herself (Basically what Fairy had been doing up until now was avoiding fight and did things half-heartedly in her group..).She understand that Layfon was actually avoiding fights,just like herself.She felt that she wasn't the only one in that city that think that fighting are wrong and unnecessary..and think that Layfon might had the same feeling about fighting.In my opinion,she think that having power doesn't mean need to fight,and if there's ever a reason why ppl should use their power,that is for the reason of helping ppl in trouble.But all of her thought about Layfon were wrong.The one she felt might be the only one that understand her now had become just like her bro.The power that Fairy hoped Layfon would use to save Nina was used by Layfon to defeat group 16 and made her team won.I don't know if she intended to make her team loose,but she never actually used her full power in battle (a walkie-talkie like power,to enable communication between members),but only will use it for urgent matters.


Oh yea...the frills on her uniform really turns me on :love:

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 12:03
Oh yea...the frills on her uniform really turns me on

Ditto, it was meant to be a service, for Christ's sake her combat uniform is in skirts and also have them frills. I'm pretty dang sure the animators did that on purpose.>_>

I bet the way they designs Nina is also intended to be a service too. While Mei was meant to be service in characterization (generic moe ftw).

Sinestra
2009-01-21, 12:41
Dude I think that's a bit harsh. I mean Layfon didn't want to be in the team at the first place but he's pretty much gotten force into it by Nina and the prez. You gotta feel sorry for the guy, look at this way, his team aren't much of a help either except for Nina. The engineer is practically useless, the sniper is un-cooperative nincompoop and Felli also didn't want to give her best, intends on losing AND she wants Layfon do the same, yes eventhough it means seeing Nina being beaten badly by the tonfa guy. Layfon intends on losing at first, and seems like he's doing that provided his knowing his team won't be getting hurt, but after being transmitted with Felli's brainwave about Nina's situation he abandoned the thought and went GAR and Saiyajin saving Nina's ass.

Basically he's being hated by Felli for using his powers to save Nina but ended up also getting hated by her because he hid his powers from the first place, just because he wanted a normal life.

Yes i am being harsh im not judging his whole character just the actions and his thinking during this particular part. But i also stated that i sympathize with him. Indeed what has happened to him is not fair, its not what he intended to happen when he came to the school and everything has been forced on him i do feel sorry for him. But in a combat situation even if it was training one should not entertain the thoughts of "its ok to lose" im sorry but its wrong. Even in training exercises people get hurt or even killed you are only as strong as your weakest member not just physically but mentally as well. The sniper didn't do much and the mechanic is useless as you stated so who does that leave to back up Nina? She bore the brunt of the attacks because he was not really trying and had the mindset of losing. Nina asked the sniper to cover Layfon because Nina had a plan and it involved Layfon actually trying which didn't happen.

Even if hes reluctant in the new role that has been forced on him ( i cant blame him) not trying your hardest while you are watching someone get beaten while she is trying her hardest is wrong. Even if i didnt want to be there and i hated the situation i wont sit by and watch someone take on 3 to 4 people while being half assessed about my approach.

I do think Lyfon is a good guy and its unfortunet whats happen to him i do feel sorry for him and im sure his character will blossom with time. But in this one particular case Felli should not have had to relay Nina's thoughts to get him to try harder it should be a given in the situation thats my take on it.

Thanks for clearing up Felli's message Skyfall i understand it a bit better now. I see how in some cases great power can become a great burden i misinterpreted her words. But my position on Layfons actions stands.

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 12:54
Even if i didnt want to be there and i hated the situation i wont sit by and watch someone take on 3 to 4 people while being half assessed about my approach.

Dude, in the end Layfon saved her just like I stated earlier,

Layfon intends on losing at first, and seems like he's doing that provided his knowing his team won't be getting hurt, but after being transmitted with Felli's brainwave about Nina's situation he abandoned the thought and went GAR and Saiyajin saving Nina's ass.

I find it a bit unfair to put all the blame on Layfon's but not on his team mates (yes, especially Felli unfortunately).

It's sad that I think in the future people would put all the burden in Layfon's hands just because he has exceptional powers. If there are any mistakes just because he's the strongest he's gonna get all the blame.

Cinocard
2009-01-21, 13:11
Well, there's two typical type of "hero", a weak ass that always fails to do anything but get compliment from girls for "trying his best' and one that is uber strong and do almost everything but always blamed for "you are not trying"

But Layfon did show that himself comes after his woman being harassed. And he went super Saiyan just because he was worried.

-Sho-
2009-01-21, 13:16
Just watch episode 2 :

Well , it was great :) I like this anime ^^ Layfon can't hold back , well it was amazing !
But , in the beginning , i don't understand , Zuellni is in war with the other city or what ? They capture the flag yes but you can die too .
And in the end , why they are angry ? yes , its true , Layfon hide his power (but its still not his true power ) but Felly said he is a traitor wtf !Its not his fault at all . Poor Layfon !! Go kick their ass badly :)
Wait for the next ep !

Sinestra
2009-01-21, 13:24
Dude, in the end Layfon saved her just like I stated earlier,



I find it a bit unfair to put all the blame on Layfon's but not on his team mates (yes, especially Felli unfortunately).

It's sad that I think in the future people would put all the burden in Layfon's hands just because he has exceptional powers. If there are any mistakes just because he's the strongest he's gonna get all the blame.

In the end yes he saved her but it should not taken someones else to relay her thoughts to make him act. Thats like me sitting by and watching you fight 3 guys and say oh he will be alright but only after they got you on the ground kicking you say oh shit I might want to help the guy out. But if we use alls well that ends well then you are right in the end he saved her. Yes im being hard on him because he has so much potential if I thought he was a shit character i was just talk about the girls in show.

I didnt put all the blame on him. I blame the sniper as well for not following orders, i have no clue what the mechanic was doing and felli well we went over that.

I would not doubt that people would rest their hopes on him in the future. When you are born with a strong power there are rarely many options for you other than to use that power to help others. Many animes have shown that characters cause more damage when they run away from their powers usually others suffer. Considering this is Shonnen i expect it to follow the basic formula. I have doubt that Lyfon will experience more hardships and fair bit of unfairness in the future.

-Sho-
2009-01-21, 13:27
Well , Layfon should leave this city and return with his girlfriend :)

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 13:30
I would not doubt that people would rest their hopes on him in the future. When you are born with a strong power there are rarely many options for you other than to use that power to help others.

Yea I see your point. 'With Great Powers Come Great Responsibility' just like uncle Ben said to Parker in Spiderman.

So far Layfon has a good heart with him ignoring Felli's wishes and went saving Nina. Hopefully he'll remain that way in the future haha.

zibi88
2009-01-21, 13:39
I think that eventualy Layfon will return to Grandan (the city that he came from) just like in anime OP ^^ maybe they will meet durring some trip or city matches ^^ who knows but Layfon will return there and that girl will be happy again...(at least till she wont learn that Layfon is popular among girls XD)

Skyfall
2009-01-21, 13:52
You know, it is equally selfish to say "you have the power, now go use it for my ends". He was unfairly dragged in to a situation he didn't want to be in, and now is expected to show enthusiasm ? Why ? Because someone else said he should ? Nina doesn't care about what he thinks at all - all she is interested, to put it bluntly, is dragging some new meat on the field and make it meet her expectations, said person's feelings on the matter be damned. Neither she, nor anyone else, is entitled to his powers just on the notion he has them - they are not public property, despite how much someone might want it so. "but he should have helped his teammates!" ? Why for, considering said teammates have only shown blunt disregard of his opinion on being in said team in the first place ?

zibi88
2009-01-21, 14:02
At least the girl who kissed Layfon doesnt care about his powers but who he is in person ^^ yet Layfon choice had not changed besides getting separete from that girl..... he left that city becouse he didnt wanted to fight and full of hope for new life went to another city where he ended in the same situation... he needs to fight becouse someone told him to.....

Layfon could simply pack his stuff and return back where at least other people are not mad at him for showing his full power XD and as a bonus love is waiting for him ^^

Now Layfon will be put under huge burden becouse people know his powers and will except more and more from him like a toy for their own purposes.... Layfon can simply rebel... give me a break or I will leave this town and go back where he came from ^^ and you people work hard to win your match next time...see ya ^^

Now that Layfon showed his power he is the most popular guy there... so even that girl Micchi will have hard time XD so many rivals..... but I wonder if Layfon has any feelings for that girl who kissed him at the beggining ^^

taelrak
2009-01-21, 14:29
In the end yes he saved her but it should not taken someones else to relay her thoughts to make him act. Thats like me sitting by and watching you fight 3 guys and say oh he will be alright but only after they got you on the ground kicking you say oh shit I might want to help the guy out. But if we use alls well that ends well then you are right in the end he saved her. Yes im being hard on him because he has so much potential if I thought he was a shit character i was just talk about the girls in show.

I didnt put all the blame on him. I blame the sniper as well for not following orders, i have no clue what the mechanic was doing and felli well we went over that.


Well, this isn't really a matter of 3 guys ganging up on one person in some streetfight. She assumed that risk when she entered the contest, and she actually specifically said she wanted to draw as many of them onto herself, by herself, while acting as a decoy. It's part of what the other captain was getting at when he says she tries to do everything herself (although partly that's because she has an uncooperative team). Also at the end, it really was just that one captain beating on her, while the other two just kept guard.

Ideally, he should have let her be beaten by the 3 guys, and stuck to the plan of running to the unguarded flag while they were concentrated on her. This would have solved the whole issue of him releasing his powers as well, since he wouldn't have revealed himself, and neither Felli or Nina would be mad at him, and he wouldn't have wholly fallen into the President's manipulations.


And in a sense, there's no reason he would be expected to give it his all in the contest. As they mentioned, he probably did think of this as just a game, and probably wasn't mature enough to understand the fact that ultimately the fate of all those people living in that city is at stake. This is surely a naive and irresponsible perspective, but then again, it's not like he was given any time or choice to actually consider that for himself.

Wargumm1i
2009-01-21, 14:45
So the main reason why he pretended to be weak, was because he lost confidence.

zibi88
2009-01-21, 14:48
So the main reason why he pretended to be weak, was because he lost confidence.

Nah rather becouse he dosnet want to fight.... (since his whole life was about fighting) and he simply wanted to start new normal life... he know that if he exposes his powers his duty to fight will return (he was right there...)

ipernorris
2009-01-21, 14:54
I guess Layfon just wishes to live a normal life like a normal boy with a normal chick! Too bad he can't! He'll live an exceptional life like an extraordinary boy with a whole harem of chicks! :D
The deal isn't too bad, isn't it?!?

Sinestra
2009-01-21, 17:07
Well, this isn't really a matter of 3 guys ganging up on one person in some streetfight. She assumed that risk when she entered the contest, and she actually specifically said she wanted to draw as many of them onto herself, by herself, while acting as a decoy. It's part of what the other captain was getting at when he says she tries to do everything herself (although partly that's because she has an uncooperative team). Also at the end, it really was just that one captain beating on her, while the other two just kept guard.

Ideally, he should have let her be beaten by the 3 guys, and stuck to the plan of running to the unguarded flag while they were concentrated on her. This would have solved the whole issue of him releasing his powers as well, since he wouldn't have revealed himself, and neither Felli or Nina would be mad at him, and he wouldn't have wholly fallen into the President's manipulations.


And in a sense, there's no reason he would be expected to give it his all in the contest. As they mentioned, he probably did think of this as just a game, and probably wasn't mature enough to understand the fact that ultimately the fate of all those people living in that city is at stake. This is surely a naive and irresponsible perspective, but then again, it's not like he was given any time or choice to actually consider that for himself.

Those are good points its always smart to end a conflict even a training one quickly which means less casualties. If he would have followed the plan he could have ended the match sooner and hopefully before his Nina went down. I admit i was hard on that guy but its only because i see a lot of potential and i know he will be burdened with a lot in the future.

In a way I inserted my own personality into the mix. Im one for jumping into the fray hell iv jumped into fights to help out a person i didnt even know just because the fight was 3 on 1. Things are looking interesting though im especially interested in the cute girl who left him a bento and how she will affect him.

taelrak
2009-01-21, 17:14
Things are looking interesting though im especially interested in the cute girl who left him a bento and how she will affect him.

That was great. Someone leaves him a carefully-prepared *pink* bento with a ribbon bow on it...and our wonderfully oblivious hero somehow gets the impression it's a new school lunch or something and gives it to the first girl he meets out of kindness :heh:

Part of the reason I like the show so far is that none of the people seem entirely one-sided. The President seems like an evil manipulative sob at first, but he seems to really care for the well-being of the city. That other team's captain seems harsh towards Nina, but we never got the impression he was simply bullying her or taking advantage of his strength.

Manji Midou
2009-01-21, 18:50
. That other team's captain seems harsh towards Nina, but we never got the impression he was simply bullying her or taking advantage of his strength.

Yup. I don't think he is being harsh on her just to be mean as well. If you look at her flasbacks....you can see the one at fault is her, she doesn't seem to care/notice her surroundings when in battle all she cares about is winning. Had he not pushed her back in the flashback she had been hit by that exploding thing...and instead of thanking him...she bitches about how they lost because he held her back.....there's also the matter that she ran ahead of the team ignoring his warnings. And here he meets her again and sees she hasn't changed. He can still she doesn't value her well being as long as she wins....(l think l heard him something like that)

So yeah...l don't think he was being an ass with her.

Boduar
2009-01-21, 18:54
I think the other captain was going with the literal "beating the sense" into her.

Manji Midou
2009-01-21, 18:57
I think the other captain was going with the literal "beating the sense" into her.

lulz...
How does the saying go?
If words won't get you to understand, might as well beat it into you:heh::heh:

zalem
2009-01-21, 19:01
You know, it is equally selfish to say "you have the power, now go use it for my ends". He was unfairly dragged in to a situation he didn't want to be in, and now is expected to show enthusiasm ? Why ? Because someone else said he should ? Nina doesn't care about what he thinks at all - all she is interested, to put it bluntly, is dragging some new meat on the field and make it meet her expectations, said person's feelings on the matter be damned. Neither she, nor anyone else, is entitled to his powers just on the notion he has them - they are not public property, despite how much someone might want it so. "but he should have helped his teammates!" ? Why for, considering said teammates have only shown blunt disregard of his opinion on being in said team in the first place ?

I have to completely agree with this statement. I don't have much issue with Layfon's behavior in the episode. He has every right to be unenthusiastic about the situation. No one likes to be forced into doing things. And Nina didn't give a crap about him or his feelings. To her, it's all about winning. I find myself sympathizing more with Layfon than Nina. And you can't bash Layfon for his acts and not equally blame Felli for her acts. She pretends to be weak on purpose and tries to encourage her teammate (Layfon) to do the same.

taelrak
2009-01-21, 19:22
I have to completely agree with this statement. I don't have much issue with Layfon's behavior in the episode. He has every right to be unenthusiastic about the situation. No one likes to be forced into doing things. And Nina didn't give a crap about him or his feelings. To her, it's all about winning. I find myself sympathizing more with Layfon than Nina. And you can't bash Layfon for his acts and not equally blame Felli for her acts. She pretends to be weak on purpose and tries to encourage her teammate (Layfon) to do the same.

Interesting/beautiful/mysterious characters aside, each of them has some sort of reason, no matter whether we agree with them or not...but what about the sniper playboy? He doesn't seem to have a decent excuse for being lazy other than well...being lazy :p

Although, from my perspective, he didn't really seem to be doing that badly...I mean...everyone was saying how indifferent he was...but it's not like he had a clear shot when they were neck-to-neck in melee combat...and he did take the clear shot that he did get (taking out that axe guy)...

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 19:31
Come to think of it in ep 2 concerning Felli and Nina,

- Say that he looses, he might've made Felli happy or any of that but in return he would've had a badly beaten Nina. Fail.

- He wins magnificently using his uber power, which eventually happens, while basically gaining attention from the whole Academy, but in return getting hated by Nina for holding back this whole time, and Felli for breaking their 'promise. Fail.

Layfon is pretty much in a tight and lose-lose situation.

meh
2009-01-21, 19:39
And in a sense, there's no reason he would be expected to give it his all in the contest. As they mentioned, he probably did think of this as just a game, and probably wasn't mature enough to understand the fact that ultimately the fate of all those people living in that city is at stake. This is surely a naive and irresponsible perspective, but then again, it's not like he was given any time or choice to actually consider that for himself.

Actually, no. The city WASN'T at stake for this match. It was a just a platoon battle that determines the positioning for the city v. city fights. So Layfan was correct in feeling that it's a pointless fight in the grand scheme of things and there was no need to go all-out.

He does understand the precarious position of the school-city, which was why he reluctantly agreed to transfer to the combat division in the first place. And even if he hadn't shown anything in this battle, he would've fought for real in the actual tournament.

It was actually Nina who was irresponsible by treating it as far more important than it should be.

gonzo562
2009-01-21, 20:27
i hope layfon is the top dog in the academy and city :)

also i think thier will be a light tone of romance in this anime but wont be huge.

Maybe the one girl that kissed him in the first episode is his love interest but who knows it could be his sister to :)

also so these city vs city fights are like for training or something. I thought the citues were fighting bugs or something

man cant wait for episode 3

taelrak
2009-01-21, 20:39
Actually, no. The city WASN'T at stake for this match. It was a just a platoon battle that determines the positioning for the city v. city fights. So Layfan was correct in feeling that it's a pointless fight in the grand scheme of things and there was no need to go all-out.

He does understand the precarious position of the school-city, which was why he reluctantly agreed to transfer to the combat division in the first place. And even if he hadn't shown anything in this battle, he would've fought for real in the actual tournament.

It was actually Nina who was irresponsible by treating it as far more important than it should be.

I disagree with that. That's like saying that after you get drafted for the army, the month before you go out to fight in a war, you don't have to take drills seriously because nothing's at stake. Try explaining that to your drill sergeant.

The city is at stake. The match here was in preparation for the city v. city fight, and the outcome of this battle determines each team's tactical position for the real battle. That matters a LOT. Sure, it's one step removed from having the city on the line, but that doesn't make this battle any less serious. It's certainly not a "game" or something that's "okay if [he] just loses". It's exactly that kind of attitude that make armies decadent. Although Nina was at fault for many things, taking the "game" seriously was not one of them.

He's letting his team down, he's letting the entire city down, he's letting himself down. At the point when he's in battle, it doesn't matter that he was forced there, or that he didn't have a choice or didn't want to be there. He has no real allegiance to the city, but the point is that he is *already* there, and unless he really has no interest in seeing the city survive, he has an obligation to people other than himself to at least put in some effort. The way I see it, if you're living in a post-apocalyptic world where the survival of your city depends on results, you don't have the luxury of "just losing" in the semi-finals before you get to the finals. Finally, consider that in the next real battle, real lives will be at stake, and it matters strongly that you have people you trust in their best positions covering your back.

And if he really feels that strongly that he doesn't want to participate, then he should take a stand, however misguided, and be clear about it. This would at least open up the space for someone who is willing, even if not able, to participate, instead of dragging his team down by pretending to suck.

Come to think of it in ep 2 concerning Felli and Nina,

- Say that he looses, he might've made Felli happy or any of that but in return he would've had a badly beaten Nina. Fail.

- He wins magnificently using his uber power, which eventually happens, while basically gaining attention from the whole Academy, but in return getting hated by Nina for holding back this whole time, and Felli for breaking their 'promise. Fail.

Layfon is pretty much in a tight and lose-lose situation.

That's why he should have just run for the flag after climbing up the cliff when everyone was focused on Nina. The other team didn't have someone keeping track of their positions like Felli.

He would've still gotten the flag, whereas Nina would've gotten away with some flesh wounds she probably would have happily borne because they had "won". At the same time, he wouldn't have had to show off his powers, so it's not like Felli could accuse him of putting in his best effort. He wouldn't have given the Martial Art head guy any reason to believe he had a lot of power either, so they wouldn't have been put in a super-important position in the real battle (barring interference from the President). It would have been a win-win situation for him (although presumably a lose-lose situation for the city)...

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 21:11
That's why he should have just run for the flag after climbing up the cliff when everyone was focused on Nina. The other team didn't have someone keeping track of their positions like Felli.

He would've still gotten the flag, whereas Nina would've gotten away with some flesh wounds she probably would have happily borne because they had "won". At the same time, he wouldn't have had to show off his powers, so it's not like Felli could accuse him of putting in his best effort. He wouldn't have given the Martial Art head guy any reason to believe he had a lot of power either, so they wouldn't have been put in a super-important position in the real battle (barring interference from the President). It would have been a win-win situation for him (although presumably a lose-lose situation for the city)...

Again, that's a what if. When the match start Layfon's pretty in the mindset what him and Felli agreed, which is acting as normal as possible, holding back their powers, even if it means losing.

Phase 1

When the match, the 2 of the 16th platoon already attacking Nina while one is keeping Layfon at bat. The situation where he should've run into the flag won't happen if he was still in the aforementioned mindset, because if he did it would've resulted him bringing the full display of his combat-prowess, exposing him to the team.

Phase 2

Layfon got hammered and thrown out off a cliff, using his powers he should've stealthly run into the flag without any problem. Again this wont' happen, why? 1. Because he still had the mindset for acting normal and presumably looses if that's the case. 2. He still thought that Nina would somehow be okay while receiving all the blow.

Phase 3

The critical moment, Felli's transmission, when Layfon realizes that Nina is getting beaten more that she could handle, he practically abandoned his normal mindset, unleashing his powers to save Nina with beating up 3 of 16th platoon squad including their captain as a result, and then capture the flag.

He alone won a crushing victory by beating the captain and capturing the flag, whereas the 17th platoon suppossed have only fulfill one of the tasks to win.

My point, the run through the flag un-noticed is difficult to obtained with the obstacles above, that being the mindset, and where the 16th platoon keep him at bay.

taelrak
2009-01-21, 21:25
Again, that's a what if. When the match start Layfon's pretty in the mindset what him and Felli agreed, which is acting as normal as possible, holding back their powers, even if it means losing.

Phase 1

When the match, the 2 of the 16th platoon already attacking Nina while one is keeping Layfon at bat. The situation where he should've run into the flag won't happen if he was still in the aforementioned mindset, because if he did it would've resulted him bringing the full display of his combat-prowess, exposing him to the team.

Phase 2

Layfon got hammered and thrown out off a cliff, using his powers he should've stealthly run into the flag without any problem. Again this wont' happen, why? 1. Because he still had the mindset for acting normal and presumably looses if that's the case. 2. He still thought that Nina would somehow be okay while receiving all the blow.

Phase 3

The critical moment, Felli's transmission, when Layfon realizes that Nina is getting beaten more that she could handle, he practically abandoned his normal mindset, unleashing his powers to save Nina with beating up 3 of 16th platoon squad including their captain as a result, and then capture the flag.

He alone won a crushing victory by beating the captain and capturing the flag, whereas the 17th platoon suppossed have only fulfill one of the tasks to win.

My point, the run through the flag un-noticed is difficult to obtained with the obstacles above, that being the mindset, and where the 16th platoon keep him at bay.

That's my point though. There are a lot of what-ifs, but he should have been flexible enough to adjust his mindset without changing his values. Or from another point of view, adjust his behavior without changing his mindset. I mean, granted, he's not the brightest guy in the world, but seeing as how he had real combat experience, and that he knows the personality and skills of Nina and to a certain extent Felli, he should have known exactly how the battle would go as soon as Nina said that she'd be the decoy. The problem is that, pretending to be weak doesn't automatically mean he has to lose, and winning doesn't automatically mean he has to power up, and even powering up doesn't necessarily mean he has to alienate the two girls. And doing any of the above doesn't necessarily mean he has to be manipulated by the President.

I gave only one example of what he could have done given the information available to him. There were any number of alternative paths he could have picked that would have given him the best of ALL worlds in the short term (i.e. without revealing his powers, without alienating Felli and Nina, without being manipulated further by the President) before, during and after each of the points you raised above.

That's partly why I find him so unsympathetic as a character.

margafred
2009-01-21, 21:30
Wait what with all this blames and hatred towards Layfon?

Layfon came to the city in hope for searching a new life and future.He was banished from the city where he originally was by the leader of that city known by the name "Her Majesty".He had no choice but to obey it,but because of that,he could leave the world of fighting and start a new life in a new city where he don't need to fight anymore,and he thinks that Zuellni will be the best place for his dream.

But instead it was the opposite.His name is pretty much well known to the higher ups of Zuellni city,especially Callian Ross and few ppls from Military Arts.Altho he didn't mentioned his origin city in the anime version,but in the manga,he mentioned it in front of the 3 girls (one of it was the girl that he saved on ep 1),and the 3 girls were surprised when knowing that Layfon came from a city well known for its martial and combat arts.

Its not like Layfon need a reason to use his power..he could use it anytime he want,even without weapon.But he swore to himself that for the sake of the new life that he had dreamt,he will abandon his fighting life forever and never ever again uses his power.

But as i said before,his name is already well known to Callian Ross,the president of the student council in Zuellni.Callian Ross planned everything he need to make Layfon start fighting again for Zuellni.For the start,he ordered 2 guys to fight each other during the ceremony,near the place where Layfon was.If its just a normal fight,Layfon wouldn't need to butt himself in,but because the fight itself had involved a girl's life in it,he had no choice but to use his power to save the girl.This was not a coincidence..it was all under Callian Ross's plan to drag Layfon from General Education department to Military Arts department.And the only one that knew about this mischievous plan of Callian Ross was none other than his own sister Fairy Ross,where Fairy peeked from the window,and saw his bro talking to 3 guys,2 of it were the guys that fighting each other.She quickly understood that his bro had ordered the 2 guys to fight during the ceremony.

Now think of this.Why Layfon,whom Callian knew to have such great power and strength,was put under Nina's platoon,whom other platoon regarded to as the weakest platoon of all?He could just place Layfon under a better platoon instead of putting him in the weakest platoon...by putting him in the weakest platoon,Layfon will have no choice but to involve more into fights.This was all under a part of Callian's plan to make Layfon as a warrior of Zuellni.Note that Callian not only did this to Layfon but also his sister too Fairy,but Fairy didn't bother that.

The mock battle of group 16 and 17 was nothing more but another plan to reveal Layfon's potential to the crowd and students.Callian knew that the only way for group 17 to win this match is by relying fully on the strength of Layfon.And his plan was a success.

None of this were known to Layfon...the only thing played on his mind was why did he have to fight again.He didn't plan to join the Military Arts,didn't plan to hold a sword or weapon,and didn't plan to use his power.He only wanted to live a new life in Zuellni,but in the end,he was forced to fight again.

Now during the mock battle with group 16,as mentioned by Taelrak

That's why he should have just run for the flag after climbing up the cliff when everyone was focused on Nina. The other team didn't have someone keeping track of their positions like Felli.

I don't think its possible at all.Having a telepathic user like Fairy is a bonus,but that means nothing if the other members of the platoon are weak.A sniper,2 sword user,a telephatic girl and a mechanic,thats all that platoon 17 had,compared to group 16,where everyone are a capable fighters.And if you notice,that everyone in group 16 also can do like what you said,instead of wasting their time to fight with group 17,they could just ignore them and go for the flag instead.The leader of group 16 vs Nina,one guy locking Layfon,other platoon 16 members could go for the flag.But why they didn't do it?

I believe this was all because of Callian's order to group 16,to eliminate group 17.This was all a part of Callian's plan,to make Layfon the hero of the day.The main focus of the match to Callian,was none other than Layfon itself.And Layfon,knowing nothing about this,just played and dance according to Callian's plan.

Well i guess in the first few episodes,we might have to bear abit with Layfon's tight situation.But sooner or later,he will start to understand his responsibility as a member of platoon 17.

AlaAlba
2009-01-21, 21:39
I don't think its possible at all.Having a telepathic user like Fairy is a bonus,but that means nothing if the other members of the platoon are weak.A sniper,2 sword user,a telephatic girl and a mechanic,thats all that platoon 17 had,compared to group 16,where everyone are a capable fighters.And if you notice,that everyone in group 16 also can do like what you said,instead of wasting their time to fight with group 17,they could just ignore them and go for the flag instead.The leader of group 16 vs Nina,one guy locking Layfon,other platoon 16 members could go for the flag.But why they didn't do it?

I believe this was all because of Callian's order to group 16,to eliminate group 17.This was all a part of Callian's plan,to make Layfon the hero of the day.The main focus of the match to Callian,was none other than Layfon itself.And Layfon,knowing nothing about this,just played and dance according to Callian's plan.

lol :heh:
because they cant :eyespin: that battle rules is squad 17 to attack 16's flag, squad 16 to defend their flag/beat 17's leader.
squad 17 dont have any flag to begin with :eyespin::eyespin:

margafred
2009-01-21, 21:43
Ah i see,my mistake there..but still don't you think the whole battle favors platoon 16 more than platoon 17?With platoon 17 being on the attacking side,Callian could see and observe Layfon's offensive power more than if Layfon was on the defending side.With all the burdens on Layfon's shoulder,Callian expected that Layfon has no other choice but use his power to defeat group 16...and yes,he was right.

taelrak
2009-01-21, 21:46
Wait what's with all this blames and hatred towards Layfon?

Layfon came to the city in hope for searching a new life and future.He was banished from the city where he originally was by the leader of that city known by the name "Her Majesty".He had no choice but to obey it,but because of that,he could leave the world of fighting and start a new life in a new city where he don't need to fight anymore,and he thinks that Zuellni will be the best place for his dream.

But instead it was the opposite.His name is pretty much well known to the higher ups of Zuellni city,especially Callian Ross and few ppls from Military Arts.Altho he didn't mentioned his origin city in the anime version,but in the manga,he mentioned it in front of the 3 girls (one of it was the girl that he saved on ep 1),and the 3 girls were surprised when knowing that Layfon came from a city well known for its martial and combat arts.

Its not like Layfon need a reason to use his power..he could use it anytime he want,even without weapon.But he swore to himself that for the sake of the new life that he had dreamt,he will abandon his fighting life forever and never ever again uses his power.

But as i said before,his name is already well known to Callian Ross,the president of the student council in Zuellni.Callian Ross planned everything he need to make Layfon start fighting again for Zuellni.For the start,he ordered 2 guys to fight each other during the ceremony,near the place where Layfon was.If its just a normal fight,Layfon wouldn't need to butt himself in,but because the fight itself had involved a girl's life in it,he had no choice but to use his power to save the girl.This was not a coincidence..it was all under Callian Ross's plan to drag Layfon from General Education department to Military Arts department.And the only one that knew about this mischievous plan of Callian Ross was none other than his own sister Fairy Ross,where Fairy peek from the window,and saw his bro talking to 3 guys,2 of it were the guys that fighting each other.

Now think of this.Why Layfon,whom Callian knew to have such great power and strength,was put under Nina's platoon,whom other platoon regarded to as the weakest platoon of all?He could just place Layfon under a better platoon instead of putting him in the weakest platoon...by putting him in the weakest platoon,Layfon will have no choice but to involve more into fights.This was all under a part of Callian's plan to make Layfon as a warrior of Zuellni.Note that Callian not only did this to Layfon but also his sister too Fairy,but Fairy didn't bother that.

The mock battle of group 16 and 17 was nothing more but another plan to reveal Layfon's potential to the crowd and students.Callian knew that the only way for group 17 to win this match is by relying fully on the strength of Layfon.And his plan was a success.

None of this were known to Layfon...the only thing played on his mind was why did he have to fight again.He didn't plan to join the Military Arts,didn't plan to hold a sword or weapon,and didn't plan to use his power.He only wanted to live a new life in Zuellni,but in the end,he was forced to fight again.

Now during the mock battle with group 16,as mentioned by Taelrak

That's why he should have just run for the flag after climbing up the cliff when everyone was focused on Nina. The other team didn't have someone keeping track of their positions like Felli.

I don't think its possible at all.Having a telepathic user like Fairy is a bonus,but that means nothing if the other members of the platoon are weak.A sniper,2 sword user,a telephatic girl and a mechanic,thats all that platoon 17 had,compared to group 16,where everyone are a capable fighters.And if you notice,that everyone in group 16 also can do like what you said,instead of wasting their time to fight with group 17,they could just ignore them and go for the flag instead.The leader of group 16 vs Nina,one guy locking Layfon,other platoon 16 members could go for the flag.But why they didn't do it?

I believe this was all because of Callian's order to group 16,to eliminate group 17.This was all a part of Callian's plan,to make Layfon the hero of the day.The main focus of the match to Callian,was none other than Layfon itself.And Layfon,knowing nothing about this,just played and dance according to Callian's plan.

Well i guess in the first few episodes,we might have to bear abit with Layfon's tight situation.But sooner or later,he will start to understand his responsibility as a member of platoon 17.

Yes, it was obvious to Reyfon that it was the President's plan to force him into participating, but it's not like it was particularly hard to get around that plan, especially after Felli even told Reyfon about it, in case he hadn't figured it out himself. I mean, she flat out told him, this is all a plan to trick you into fighting for us. What does he come up with in response? The worst possible idea ever.

As for the battle itself, Platoon 16 only had to defend, so there was no danger of them getting Reyfon's flag. That itself is a major advantage for Platoon 17.

I mean really, in capture the flag, the biggest hurdle is that you have to defend your own flag while getting the other side's. After that, it's to draw away the defense of the other side. Here, you 1) dont have to protect your own flag, AND 2) the opposing force's defense left his flag! AND 3) you don't even need to bring the flag back to your own base! You just have to grab it...

Under those conditions, how can the attacking side possibly lose?

Every single member of Platoon 17 could have run for the flag when that other team's captain left it, and it would just be a race to see who gets a hand on it first (and would likely have won due to the element of surprise). There wouldn't even be combat involved at that point.


Nina's original plan of being the decoy was hopelessly naive, as of course anyone defending would watch out for that. As you say, the other team isn't stupid.

However, it wasn't her plan that was a problem, it was the timing of it. Obviously no one would fall for such a ploy right away (even though Platoon 16 did to some extent...for some reason), but the point is when this plan is executed at a time when the other team is relaxed, thinking they're on the verge of victory, they're easily thrown into disorganization.

Consider that the only reserves Platoon 16 had that we saw was the captain in front of the flag, who rather idiotically decided to jump into the fray for some reason. As soon as he did that, all attention was focused on Nina. Consider also that we see no sign of any coordination or communication between them in battle.

Platoon 17 had 1 sniper that was never attacked for the duration of the battle, and Felli was also ignored (not to mention the mechanic). While presumably, Felli was "finding the location of the enemies", we can see that the actual combat took place in a single localized area since that one guy moved back and forth between Reyfon and Nina. In other words, for a large part of the battle, the entire opposing team was focused on Nina exclusively. During this time, Felli, Reyfon, Sniper guy, Mechanic, etc all could have made a beeline for the flag. Note also that this would also have the effect of splitting Platoon 16's forces in some way, since Nina was actually tying them down to some extent. What better time to snipe off people when they disengage from combat to chase after another team member?


EDIT: I mean, I know this is indulging in a lot of what-ifs, but seriously. When you're playing capture the flag with such one-sided conditions, he's gotta be able to come up with something better than "I'll stand here and let them whack on me until I freak out from seeing my teammate get beat up"... ... ...

margafred
2009-01-21, 21:58
I believe in that battle,the "flag" for platoon 17 was Nina herself.Defeat her,and the battle is over.Remember when platoon 16 leader start bashing non stop towards Nina,and the one monitoring the match said something like "start the countdown"?I think they're counting the time before platoon 17 is officially declared as a loser of the battle.Platoon 16 leader's reason to focus on her was because,it was the simplest and easiest way to eliminate platoon 17.Now why was the rule was made in such way?

Simple...because at the current Layfon before using his power,it would be an obvious fall of Nina first under platoon 16's leader before Layfon could reach his hand on the flag.I don't think Callian allowed the flag to be "touched" by means of shooting it from range,meaning that platoon 17's sniper couldn't shoot the flag to bring it down.The mechanic as i know is not on the military units (see here (http://www.onemanga.com/Chrome_Shelled_Regios/3/13/)),and has 0 experience in fighting.So he can't do anything except repairing the weapons.The only combatants that group 17 had were Nina and Layfon.The problem with this 2 was,one has a self centered attitude and high pride,while another one act goofy for the sake of hiding his power.Against a capable team like platoon 16,there's just no way for them to win the match.

All this were under Callian's calculation.All this disadvantages that platoon 17 can only be fixed IF Layfon uses his power.That is the one and only way for platoon 17 to win the match...no other way around it i believe.

taelrak
2009-01-21, 22:09
I believe in that battle,the "flag" for platoon 17 was Nina herself.Defeat her,and the battle is over.Remember when platoon 16 leader start bashing non stop towards Nina,and the one monitoring the match said something like "start the countdown"?I think they're counting the time before platoon 17 is officially declared as a loser of the battle.Platoon 16 leader's reason to focus on her was because,it was the simplest and easiest way to eliminate platoon 17.Now why was the rule was made in such way?

Simple...because at the current Layfon before using his power,it would be an obvious fall of Nina first under platoon 16's leader before Layfon could reach his hand on the flag.I don't think Callian allowed the flag to be "touched" by means of shooting it from range,meaning that platoon 17's sniper couldn't shoot the flag to bring it down.The mechanic as i know is not on the military units (see here (http://www.onemanga.com/Chrome_Shelled_Regios/3/13/)),and has 0 experience in fighting.So he can't do anything except repairing the weapons.The only combatants that group 17 had were Nina and Layfon.The problem with this 2 was,one has a self centered attitude and high pride,while another one act goofy for the sake of hiding his power.Against a capable team like platoon 16,there's just no way for them to win the match.

All this were under Callian's calculation.All this disadvantages that platoon 17 can only be fixed IF Layfon uses his power.That is the one and only way for platoon 17 to win the match...no other way around it i believe.

There was a substantial amount of time for any member of Platoon 17 to run and get the flag before Nina was defeated.

The captain didn't appear before Nina until after Reifon fell from the cliff. In the time following, Reyfon had time to climb all the way back up, hide under the bushes for a while, and THEN the head martial guy started the countdown to 30.

Also, it was the head martial guy who gave the countdown order, not the president, who in fact had wanted to wait longer to give more pressure to Reyfon. In fact, the countdown was against the President's wishes, since if the countdown ended sooner, the other captain would stop attacking and Reyfon wouldn't feel compelled to save Nina.

You're giving way too much credit to the President. While this may have been his plan, it's a rather inept one. I don't see this as a situation where Refyon *had* to release his powers because the President manipulated him to do so. It's a miracle the President's plan worked at all in light of the alternative paths to victory, and the other obstacles that almost occurred (i.e. Reyfon not seeing Nina beaten unless he decided to climb back up, countdown starting sooner, etc.).

I seriously can't believe that someone with hardened battle experience would let himself be backed into such an obvious corner when there were so many other ways out of the President's manipulations. I'm not saying Reyfon has to be omniscient, but Felli actually *told* him of the President's plan. I see this really as a weakness in the plot and a suspension of disbelief.

It's one thing if we're talking about some green newcomer coming to his first battle. This is someone who's been in actual combat, had real fighting experience, and should have at least an elementary grasp of tactics and people.

It would be different if the conditions were more even of course, but when the game is stacked so the attacking team almost has to win under those rules, I really don't see any excuse for Reyfon to have been driven into this rather "desperate" route.

TrueKnight
2009-01-21, 22:22
It's one thing if we're talking about some green newcomer coming to his first battle. This is someone who's been in actual combat, had real fighting experience, and should have at least an elementary grasp of tactics and people.

It would be different if the conditions were more even of course, but when the game is stacked so the attacking team almost has to win under those rules, I really don't see any excuse for Reyfon to have been driven into this rather "desperate" route.

You're giving Layfon way much of a burden. He's an experienced and seasoned fighter yes. Thing is, you can't expect him to know all the situation in that particular combat situation when he's basically in a restrain situation like I mentioned prior.

If Layfon can magically knows the combat situation with 'helicopter view' like Felli he would probably can, but he couldn't.