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Gomenasai
2008-04-23, 00:03
just a friendly for anyone who ever streams, crunchyrole has changed some things so they no longer worry about bandwidth, so you dont need to be a premium account to view "Highquality" and even "High Def" streams. The quality of crunchyroll is almost as good as Stage6 now, just HD the stream and click "larger" its amazingly good quality for a stream.

BearShare
2008-04-23, 00:07
just a friendly for anyone who ever streams, crunchyrole has changed some things so they no longer worry about bandwidth, so you dont need to be a premium account to view "Highquality" and even "High Def" streams. The quality of crunchyroll is almost as good as Stage6 now, just HD the stream and click "larger" its amazingly good quality for a stream.

Not even close.

I stop by every once and awhile but the people there just piss me off too much.

qtipbrit
2008-04-23, 00:11
Not even close.

I stop by every once and awhile but the people there just piss me off too much.
I agree.

Even if I didn't care about the extremely low quality of their videos, I rarely ever used their site because of the people there remind me of elementary school.
Now that the video quality is higher, I still doubt that I'll stop by often unless it's really that significant. (I doubt it's anywhere near Stage6, though.)

KholdStare
2008-04-23, 00:12
CrunchyRoll seems to load to slowly for some reason, and yes, I do have high speed Internet. For what CR offers, YouTube/Veoh is better to me, but I don't use them anyways, so torrents for the win.

Nemu
2008-04-23, 00:14
I used to use Crunchyroll, not anymore though. I use Veoh now. ^^'

Gomenasai
2008-04-23, 00:22
Okay but seriously i am a long time Stage6 runner, I back the fact that it is 10x the quality of Veoh or Youtube. I am running on a 1920/1200 monitor thats the sive of some plasma screeen TV's and When I put CR streams onto (High Def mode) and then click the button (Larger) It makes the quality + size like 5 times larger than Veoh standard. Give it a try if you havnt been there for a while, I am all for quality personally, the more you can get the better ya know? I am just trying to expand options for everyone, I know i must be annoying, but just giving a try might be worth it in the long run, All up to u guys though. I was pretty astonished at first too, CR used to be worst stream site for me, i only used it as anime index reference, it went from worst to, best stream after Stage6 died and CR upped the quality 110%. I have used Youtube, Veoh, VeohTV, Stage6, Crunchyroll.... I know all of there qualities, I myself didnt like crunchyroll and used it as a backup, but this is VERY recent, they gave it 10x the quality, u just gotta click the Highdef, and click large, "Not even close to stage 6?""" Its alot closer than anything else i know of right now.

FateAnomaly
2008-04-23, 01:20
Does it even matter what the people at CR is like? You don't have to chat with them to watch anything.
Stage6 is good but loads slow and its dead now.
Veoh is hard to navigate and slow. Youtube is the same only worse.
CR is pretty user friendly and its easy to know what anime have been uploaded recently.

Torrents are good if you are patient.

Vexx
2008-04-23, 01:55
They obviously run on the energy of stolen IQ from many of the denizens there :)
And no, I'm not a user.... streaming is the devil. ;)

cyth
2008-04-23, 02:04
I don't mind high school kids as I don't spend time on the site. I can't use CR's streaming because Adobe Flash Player and H.264 are just too slow for my PC (I wish they would sign a deal with CoreAVC, like Joost! did). I download BLASSREITER's and Druaga's Xvid downloadables, and that's it, which aren't that HQ as the tag suggests. While they display more detail than streaming video, their macroblocking is worse than BOST TV's PSP download. Obviously you need to donate to download the Xvid versions. While their e-mail support is quick to resolve issues, I've had to contact them twice already. One time I couldn't download the file through Firefox (bad cookie coding), the second time I contacted them to cancel a double credit card charge for my donations. ~.~ These may be small problems, but it was still frustrating to resolve them. They simply shouldn't have happened.

tripperazn
2008-04-23, 03:18
While their practice of using free fansubs for profit is deplorable, I must commend them for their collaboration with Gonzo. It's a step in the right direction.

Also, they have dramas if I ever feel like skipping the horrendous 700 MB of torrenting each episode with no seeders to watch them.

Mgz
2008-04-23, 03:23
I think the h.264 implementation from Adobe Flash beats stage6 divx by far, look pretty good on my computer.

it is h.264 after all XD

2H-Dragon
2008-04-23, 03:27
Personally I'm against the lq suck that it is. The only intresting thing about it is the drama for the same reason tripperazn listed. Though I am an avid user of asnv myself. Streaming for anime is the gay though since the availebility of those are pretty good.

tejvenim
2008-04-23, 06:56
Crunchyroll made a critical error. When I want to buy Druaga ep 1, I get paypal transaction error. I'm not the only one that face this problem, when I glanced through crunchyroll forum, I saw posts made by other people who also face this error. This error is critical and unforgivable for a site that sell anime episodes. I can't trust a site that make such a critical error.

cyth
2008-04-23, 07:12
This error is critical and unforgivable for a site that sell anime episodes. I can't trust a site that make such a critical error.Yeah, it really is unforgivable. You have to convince customers that your online service is bullet-proof, and Crunchyroll has failed so far in doing this. I can see a lot of people just downloading the torrent, rather than jump through flaming hoops to get their anime.

Potatochobit
2008-04-23, 07:15
I LIKE YOUTUBE

seriously.

but veoh is ok.

i dun like crunchyroll because u have to register? or they charge you premium fees? something stupid comes up when you search? I forgot, but I don't prefer them.

I do like the word crunchy, very much.

WanderingKnight
2008-04-23, 09:33
Why stream something when you can wait ten minutes and watch it in quality a hundred times better?

I seriously don't understand the reasoning behind streaming. At all.

Zeroryoko1974
2008-04-23, 09:49
don't like a company that gets 4 million bucks for streaming fansubs. If they get 4 mil for streaming them, I want some cash for watching them

oompa loompa
2008-04-23, 10:28
Why stream something when you can wait ten minutes and watch it in quality a hundred times better?

I seriously don't understand the reasoning behind streaming. At all.

well actually.. it does help a lot of people.. for example my connection simply isnt fast enough to torrent files leisurely, but i can stream at my own leisure (its the fine line between the speed to stream without lag, and too slow to torrent too fast). this is just one problem as well, its wrong to say that there arnt a lot of benefits to streaming

WanderingKnight
2008-04-23, 10:33
well actually.. it does help a lot of people.. for example my connection simply isnt fast enough to torrent files leisurely, but i can stream at my own leisure

Actually, the problem is that you don't have a speed requirement with torrents. At most, you'll have to wait longer. Streaming does have a speed requirement if you want it to be useful for something, namely, the fact that you need to download faster than you watch, and many times I've found myself in the opposite situation for several video files. Yes, perhaps your connection isn't fast enough to warrant the 100-200 kb/sec it takes to download a fansub in 10 minutes (which is actually not that fast for most broadband standards nowadays), but at most you'll have to wait a little more.

Goshin
2008-04-23, 10:35
Most of my favorite animes have been removed :( so I don't use it,

EXEs
2008-04-23, 11:16
don't like a company that gets 4 million bucks for streaming fansubs. If they get 4 mil for streaming them, I want some cash for watching them

Damn straight. They take fansubbers' work, who don't get paid for doing their translations, and host it on their site to make money. I would say this is pretty immoral, and a lazy way to make money. This reminds me of eBaums World.

Also, streaming for me takes just half the time to download an episode. I download, I can watch anytime I like, I can watch it an infinite (I hope) amount of times, resize it to however I want and etc...streaming, you gotta watch it on the browser, and if you accidently close it, another wait for it to load.

Vexx
2008-04-23, 11:27
The ISPs and such whine about p2p taking up a substantial percentage of the bandwidth.... wait til "streaming" (transfer of packets that are NOT stored on the destination device; must be retransmitted each time; is intrinsically asymmetric) is being used by all the major content providers for television and movies. The idea makes me cringe (a movie and a few hours of tv.... many many GB/day) ... and it is one reason the infrastructure people are waving this idea of "double charging" and other forms of non-neutrality.

KholdStare
2008-04-23, 11:30
I only use streaming to preview an episode before downloading a batch torrent, since it's usually a good thing to do. Streaming does have a use, but since it's not the best way to watch anime, I wouldn't really care how crappy the website I'm streaming from is.

beansprouts
2008-04-23, 12:22
I generally keep away from streaming sites for stuff that I can download through other sources for a much better quality. I've heard friends raved about how crunchyroll has all the series and yada, but I really hate LQ. I have a widescreen monitor, sometimes I feel like I am watching blocks of colours moving when a video is blown up in streaming website. Yes I can choose not to enlarge, um, okay, I have a nice big monitor but I am watching some tiny screen?

I rather wait for BT, my internet speed is relatively fast and zooms for new torrents.

Nemu
2008-04-23, 14:08
I'v never minded the quality, but if it's bad anough, I guess I would.

tenkenX6
2008-04-24, 01:01
My short and simple answer is: HELL NO. Why the heck would I use/support a streaming site that made money off of some other peoples' "free of charge" fansub works? They should be VERY ashamed of themselves.

Shinbou
2008-04-24, 04:24
Why i don't use chrunchyroll for anything:
-The quality is bad if i watch it on my pc, instead veoh is better.
-They delete many anime.
-They are slower at releasing subs.
-I won't pay for watching a few episode online (better quality), instead i better pay for rapidshare and download anime.

Why i don't use youtube for anime:
-You have to watch in parts (main reason).
-Youtube is down often.

Why i use veoh for anime:
-It's easy to use.
-The anime episode load fast (the people who say it's slow just have a bad internet connection).
-It's good quality.
-They are fast at releasing episode, then i mean the people who upload them...
-You can see if its subbed english, spanish, france when u open it.

cyth
2008-04-24, 11:06
I long for the day when the industry turns their eyes to Veoh as well. :)

BearShare
2008-04-24, 22:13
I long for the day when the industry turns their eyes to Veoh as well. :)

There's too much porn there for that to happen.

yvcso
2008-04-25, 00:52
Umm, I used it just for Higurashi (first season), zetsubou sensei and zoku sayonara zetsubou sensei.

xxanimefan4_ever
2008-04-25, 18:44
as far as quality we're not talking about

this

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3954/veohnx8.png
or this

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6620/crunchyag7.png

or this
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5723/youtubezh1.png
it's this:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/461/supercrunchuw9.png

And it's :
1. veoh
2. normal crunchy
3. youtube
4. high-crunchy

Well I'm sure they'd look even more awful if I found an action scene but whatevers...
BTW I don't watch/like this show...

Nemu
2008-04-25, 23:31
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6620/crunchyag7.png
Wow, that quality looks awful! ;-;' The quality in the last picture is very nice and clear.

KholdStare
2008-04-26, 00:34
Hm, I thought YouTube now has high definition too. Does anyone really know if it's any good?

cyth
2008-04-26, 02:58
Hm, I thought YouTube now has high definition too. Does anyone really know if it's any good?It's definitely not HD, just H.264/AAC (Stereo) @ 480x360 for some videos.

Miko Miko
2008-04-26, 03:20
I use crunchyroll for a lot of unlicensed anime, i onli watch a few though because a lot of them get taken down half way through the series.

I also use high quality crunchy but i prefer torrents!! :D

Deathkillz
2008-04-26, 03:53
Never like streaming for my anime never will. Especially since when I like storing my watched series...you never know when it might come in handy for a rainy day :rolleyes:

Cheezy
2008-04-29, 08:36
Now all we need is a torrent version of the same pic to show those who refuse to watch it on torrents ^_^

Aoie_Emesai
2008-04-29, 15:15
CrunchyRoll seems to load to slowly for some reason, and yes, I do have high speed Internet. For what CR offers, YouTube/Veoh is better to me, but I don't use them anyways, so torrents for the win.

Same that's why I don't use it. I only use it when someone link a video on it that isnt on somewhere else.

UzumakiW
2008-04-29, 17:23
The only thing I use CrunchyRoll for now is the movies they have. If I can't find a certain movie anywhere else, I'll watch it there if they have it, otherwise, I'll stick with Veoh, especially for anime.

Gomenasai
2008-05-01, 00:07
Why stream something when you can wait ten minutes and watch it in quality a hundred times better?

I seriously don't understand the reasoning behind streaming. At all.

Crunchy's h.264 vids are P2P, for those of you who think that is Pay to play, I am refering to Peer to peer, aka bittorrent, It doesnt open a bittorrent application but it connects to all peers on site to download the video, so you just pop it into fullscreen which for me is my entire 1280/1024 and I just wait for it to DL like 1/8th of the way, and then I can just watch while it buffers ahead of what i am watching, the quality is the same if not better than using a bittorrent application to DL. varries slightly from vid to vid, But as far as crunchy screwing there members on purchases, ^.^ I am cheap, I never trust my money on the internet, so I stay strictly for the purpose of my own entertainment, Hey I am watching on quality that used to have a monthly. pretty cool.

Gomenasai
2008-05-01, 00:16
Damn straight. They take fansubbers' work, who don't get paid for doing their translations, and host it on their site to make money. I would say this is pretty immoral, and a lazy way to make money. This reminds me of eBaums World.

Also, streaming for me takes just half the time to download an episode. I download, I can watch anytime I like, I can watch it an infinite (I hope) amount of times, resize it to however I want and etc...streaming, you gotta watch it on the browser, and if you accidently close it, another wait for it to load.
(You do realise they do this to keep the site up and pay for bandwidth which is HUGE on CR, In order to keep hosting and giving quality vids, they need money in some form, Basically they are charging "you" so they can continue to provide the site, It has nothing about to do with selling the eps out immorally. But I will tell you something, "You dont need to pay anything for highquality and HD" The biggest charge they have now is a donation bin where u choose ANY ammount you want to donate, u can be cheap as you want. Although some call what they where doing by charging $ deplorable, just know it wasnt for there greedy pockets, it was to continue hosting a site for anime lovers, like us, and them themselves. But that is in the past. So basically saying they take fansubbers work and making money out of it is only half true, they wherent doing it get to get rich like i said. Maybe I should find a census on how much it costs monthly to provides 10000's of streams on 1 site, to 1000's of members who watch anime every day ^<^

Gomenasai
2008-05-01, 00:21
Damn straight. They take fansubbers' work, who don't get paid for doing their translations, and host it on their site to make money. I would say this is pretty immoral, and a lazy way to make money. This reminds me of eBaums World.

Also, streaming for me takes just half the time to download an episode. I download, I can watch anytime I like, I can watch it an infinite (I hope) amount of times, resize it to however I want and etc...streaming, you gotta watch it on the browser, and if you accidently close it, another wait for it to load.

My short and simple answer is: HELL NO. Why the heck would I use/support a streaming site that made money off of some other peoples' "free of charge" fansub works? They should be VERY ashamed of themselves.

yah same thing as i said above

Gomenasai
2008-05-01, 00:23
The video quality is horrible.When Bleach and Naruto were removed,you have no idea how many Narutards post threads every single day.Those guys have no idea what licensing means.I never waited for CR for the animes cause it is slow and why wait when i can download it myself and watch it in much better quality?Veoh TV on the hand has much better quality,and it is FOC

that post is living a year in the past when they charged for website hosting, It is free and HD, I know for sure it is better than VEOH TV< all veoh TV does it take the normal VEOH screen which is a little bigger than youtube vids, and lets you stretch it, all that does it reduce quality the larger u make it.

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-05-01, 00:41
I watched Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro on CR, and a few other minor series when I'm feeling bored, but obviously they don't host the licensed anime that I like, so I end up using torrents and the like.

qtipbrit
2008-05-01, 00:48
that post is living a year in the past when they charged for website hosting, It is free and HD, I know for sure it is better than VEOH TV< all veoh TV does it take the normal VEOH screen which is a little bigger than youtube vids, and lets you stretch it, all that does it reduce quality the larger u make it.
Turns out that most sites don't have a magical way of increasing a video's quality and resolution when expanding a video.
The only reason I actually downloaded VeohTV is that it's quicker video downloads for episodes that I don't really care about animation quality-wise.

I torrent about half of the series I'm following this season because not all of them merit a full quality video, so I actually use streaming sites quite a bit, and I probably would never use crunchyroll, even if I didn't care about ethics and such relating to making money off of fansubbers' work.
I watched Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro on CR, and a few other minor series when I'm feeling bored, but obviously they don't host the licensed anime that I like, so I end up using torrents and the like.
You jest, torrents for licensed anime don't exist!

anselfir
2008-05-01, 01:11
i dont really have any quality requirement. as long as the thing is clear and the sub is readily readable, it is fine. visually speaking, the human brain has the ability to connect the dots quite well, without the aid of precise resolution.

WanderingKnight
2008-05-01, 01:17
i dont really have any quality requirement. as long as the thing is clear and the sub is readily readable, it is fine. visually speaking, the human brain has the ability to connect the dots quite well, without the aid of precise resolution.

Yeah, I can also remember the songs I like, but turns out that listening to them is much better.

Just sayin'.

qtipbrit
2008-05-01, 01:53
i dont really have any quality requirement. as long as the thing is clear and the sub is readily readable, it is fine. visually speaking, the human brain has the ability to connect the dots quite well, without the aid of precise resolution.
True, but sometimes, one doesn't watch anime to simply connect dots.
Personally, I find that half of the magic of watching something from Makoto Shinkai, KyoAni, or Production I.G. is lost when I'm watching it with such sh*tty quality.
Of course, when applied to a great number of other series where art, animation, and smoothness don't matter (a very small minority), I might be able to stand crunchyroll, assuming I can scroll down a page without accidentally reading 135395 stupid posts.
Yeah, I can also remember the songs I like, but turns out that listening to them is much better.

Just sayin'.
Actually, sometimes it's not. I once remembered a song I had heard several years prior to sound much better than it did when I had heard it more recently. I believe it was an Eminem song, but I generally don't dabble in rap often anyway.
But in general, yes. It's like drum-padding a Buddy Rich solo, playing Eruption on an acoustic guitar, or playing Mozart on a techno keyboard.

tenkenX6
2008-05-02, 02:51
just know it wasnt for there greedy pockets

Er....but remember in the Anime News Network interview back in March, one of the co-founders, Vu Nguyen, admited that he actually receives a paycheck from Crunchyroll. This is all after he denied that he or anyone else associated with Crunchyroll didn't personally get any income for what he did from the site more than once in the interview. Sure, the interviewer may have been pushy but he still confessed to his misdeed. This sounds like at least Vu Nguyen was getting money for his own greedy pockets to me. But this is just my honest opinion.