View Full Version : DFC (Petite) vs Oppai (Big Bust)
kk2extreme
2008-09-26, 19:58
this is the question that has been on my mind for quite some times, and i would like to see others opinion on it. Personally i get tired of big bust girls quite easily, especially when the show is filled with them, but it is not the case with the show filled with lolis. Dont get me wrong i do like girls with well proportions, and the best one that i see as the representative of big bust is Mizuho from onegai teacher. Well what do you guys prefer to see girls in anime, big bust, loli, both, or neither, LET'S VOTE :D
I make it MC so it could apply to specific cases
You should have had another choice: "normal bust" ... I would have chosen that in addition to petite or "loli" (which isn't only "flat").
I find small petite women with proportional measurements cute... what I don't find cute are the "boobs bigger than her head" characters in some anime. I think the only fairly well endowed character I liked I can think of was Nerine from Shuffle! -- and even then her bust seemed to vary dramatically depending on the phase of the moon.
kk2extreme
2008-09-26, 20:25
You should have had another choice: "normal bust" ... I would have chosen that in addition to petite or "loli" (which isn't only "flat").
I find small petite women with proportional measurements cute... what I don't find cute are the "boobs bigger than her head" characters in some anime. I think the only fairly well endowed character I liked I can think of was Nerine from Shuffle! -- and even then her bust seemed to vary dramatically depending on the phase of the moon.
O on that, i just wanna see the choices that represent the polar extremes in anime, it is true that most girls are "normal size". I just wanna see if a big bust and a loli are presented, which one would people prefer.
DragoonKain3
2008-09-26, 20:34
Oppai's (aka big boobs) opposite is not loli, but pettanko, or most anime watchers know it as Delicious Flat Chest (DFC)
Loli is just a subset of DFC, where the most widely accepted definition of loli is the requirement that she must be a DFC.
Do note that there's a multitude of DFC's who aren't considered loli, for example Dragon Slave girl of Slayers (Lina Inverse) and 'Having a flat chest is a status symbol' girl from Shuffle (Mayumi). My personal favourite would be the Revolutionary Girl of Hayate no Gotoku, as Hinagiku is just <3
Myself, I lean more towards DFC, mainly because the insecurity anime usually portrays these girls as having is a big moe element for me. But that's the only reason why I find DFC cute, and the moment they lose said insecurity (aka they're a loli, and they have no reason being insecure as they haven't hit puberty yet), I find average girls and even big busted girls to be cuter than them.
Basically, it all comes down to DFC > normal > oppai > loli
Heh, I didn't realize it was such a specific field of taxonomy :)
Hmmm, I guess all I can say is I lean smaller :)
DragoonKain3
2008-09-26, 20:46
To tell the truth Vexx, I am not surprised, considering who you are married to ;)
My preference always changed in the past, now I do not have a specific preference, any bust size can be cute or sexy. Because its not decided by just the bust size alone.
kk2extreme
2008-09-26, 21:00
i like loli's instead of DFC, they are small and cute. Plain DFC is just meh. Big bust usually are big girls in terms of size (not just the bust, but as a whole body), and both of lolis and big bust are easily identified in a show. :D
animeboy12
2008-09-26, 22:21
I don't think Mizuho from onegai teacher is a good representative of big bust. Specifically because big is a relative term and Mizuho's bust relative to other animes(eiken, divergence eve,or gravion) would not be considered big. That said, I find big bust more appealing to me. Now granted the breasts have to be drawn well and be in the limits of what is good proportion for the character(gravion, witchblade) not like eiken's.
The reason why I find big bust appealing to me is because character with big breasts are usually adults therefore I can relate to those characters more. I find loli character demeanor matches their personality small innocent, childish.
i like loli's instead of DFC, they are small and cute. Plain DFC is just meh.
But if you don't like DFC how can you like loli? After all it's well known DFC is part of loli.
*slaps Vexx for not understanding the 'neither' button that was obviously for him*
(though it would have been nice to mention a 'in between' instead)
We're spiraling into the "what is loli" endless debate again.
Obviously the OP was using the term as a physical description ("child-like or elfin petite characteristics")
.... perhaps the OP should re-title the poll with more carefully defined terms and restart?
we're discussing preferences in bust types after all .... :P
While the topic is pretty inane to start with the existing thread title and poll choices are a prime choice of derail material. Both the thread and poll are going to be edited to try and at least keep the thread on-topic. If you want to define or discuss what "loli" means then I suggest you post in one of the existing threads on the topic.
loli vs big bust -> DFC (Petite) vs Oppai (Big Bust)
Additional poll choice included (Inbetween)
MidnightViper88
2008-09-27, 02:47
Bust sizes are indifferent to me; Some of my favorite characters are my favorites because of their personalities, and their bust sizes are an independent factor, if not a factor that doesn't exist in the first place...
Let's say amongst my roster of favorite characters, I'll pull out 4 examples:
Mayumi Thyme (Shuffle)
Shinobu Maehara (Love Hina)
Yuna Akashi (Negima)
Soifon (Bleach)
Mayumi's practically a surfboard, Soifon's pretty average, and Shinobu and Yuna are relatively endowed...There aren't any patterns that could be based on the bust variable...
I however don't really care for characters that have boobs that are just way out of proportion, personality variable negligible... >_<
stormy001_M1A2
2008-09-27, 03:42
Does it really matter? To me character is more important bust size.
kk2extreme
2008-09-27, 11:05
wow, cool new looks for this thread, thanks, i still prefer loli though :D
SeedFreedom
2008-09-27, 12:29
Wish the in between choice was there when i voted. (voted neither btw)
Usami Haru
2008-09-27, 12:33
There's a reason why they call it Delicious Flat Chest! /voted DFC.
Well, for me it isn't thaaaaaat important, the only problem I have is when the breasts are too big compared to the body, it looks awful, IMO.
Kimura sensei
2008-09-27, 12:41
DFC
Big breasts cause global warming.
KaneDragon
2008-09-27, 12:42
We're spiraling into the "what is loli" endless debate again.
A miserable little pile of secrets!
Why not in-between? ¯\(º_o)/¯ Huge breasts just break suspension of disbelief and aren't attractive at all, especially when they don't match the body type. (I'm not counting Eiken-class "breasts" here, either, as those monstrosities can't be classified as part of the human anatomy. :heh:) But on the other hand, it's nice to have something there. :D Not that there's anything wrong with DFC characters (Hinagiku, Mayumi, etc...). :cool:
Xellos-_^
2008-09-27, 12:48
i think there should be 4 choice.
Small
Medium
Large
X-Large
I would go with Medium and Large so for the poll In between and Oppai.
animeboy12
2008-09-27, 23:30
A miserable little pile of secrets!
Why not in-between? ¯\(º_o)/¯ Huge breasts just break suspension of disbelief and aren't attractive at all, especially when they don't match the body type. (I'm not counting Eiken-class "breasts" here, either, as those monstrosities can't be classified as part of the human anatomy. :heh:) But on the other hand, it's nice to have something there. :D Not that there's anything wrong with DFC characters (Hinagiku, Mayumi, etc...). :cool:
I would argue that huge breasts do nothing more to break suspension of disbelief than a character having impossible huge eyes or unnatural hair color. I disagree wit them being unattractive as dragonaut, macross frontier and witchblade all had attractive characters with huge breasts.
someone must have watched Kanokon to come up with this thread:heh:
@animeboy12: well... attractive to YOU :) Some people thought the characters in those shows looked ridiculous. But I'm not disputing that you find them attractive.
If this poll goes like I imagine, there will be a fairly equal distribution of votes. Because everyone has their own preferred tastes. Whatever the measurement, there's some demographic of fan that likes it (or dislikes it).
Aye, they probably should have used Kanokon characters as example objects for each poll choice o.0
someone must have watched Kanokon to come up with this thread:heh:
It's making its way into at least one scene for most shows now.
As for my preferences...bigger than average, but not huge. Well-proportioned, of course. Something close to Sekirei's Matsu.
what about those who prefer shape **e.g. bullet train** over size? it's not like the size always matters, in my opinion...
big boobs in anime tend to defy the law of physics as of late... e.g. dragonaut, sekirei
KholdStare
2008-09-28, 00:04
I voted for both DFC and in-between. Big breasts are such a turn off because they no longer look human.
I voted for both DFC and in-between. Big breasts are such a turn off because they no longer look human.
Thank you for reminding me of Eiken:heh:
KaneDragon
2008-09-28, 00:08
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5120/codegeassnano15ve0.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDNcIgXYs0)
Posted in full, because it seemed so remarkably appropriate. :p Click for glorious Wakamoto goodness. :D
kk2extreme
2008-09-28, 00:08
someone must have watched Kanokon to come up with this thread:heh:
LOL, u guess right :D, loli can come up with the most perverted ideas, and there is also sekirei, kuu is just so awesome comparing to the other women in the show :p
LOL, u guess right :D, loli can come up with the most perverted ideas, and there is also sekirei, kuu is just so awesome comparing to the other women in the show :p
You download sekirei?
Man you're lucky if your ISP still hasn't pulled your internet connection:uhoh:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5120/codegeassnano15ve0.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDNcIgXYs0)
Posted in full, because it seemed so remarkably appropriate. :p Click for glorious Wakamoto goodness. :D
Okay.. now that puts the thread on the inane absurd track it belongs in :D
animeboy12
2008-09-28, 01:33
@animeboy12: well... attractive to YOU :) Some people thought the characters in those shows looked ridiculous. But I'm not disputing that you find them attractive.
If this poll goes like I imagine, there will be a fairly equal distribution of votes. Because everyone has their own preferred tastes. Whatever the measurement, there's some demographic of fan that likes it (or dislikes it).
Aye, they probably should have used Kanokon characters as example objects for each poll choice o.0
true, I'm not arguing that people can't have different tastes in anime
I just find it weird when people bring human anotomy into anime because so much of anime character design defies it.
Also two questions
When loli and big bust become independent of each other? because I know there are a few busty loli characters (eiken, Kodomo no Jikan).
Does anybody know of any shows that are filled with characters with big breasts other than eiken, godannar, and sekirei I can't think of an anime where a good portion of the cast is busty?
An analogy using chocolate cake.
I like chocolate cake.
If I had to choose between only a sliver of really tasty chocolate cake and a lot of lousy chocolate cake, I would always go with the small amount of deliciousness every time.
However, if asked "How much tasty chocolate cake would you like?" my answer would be a tongue lolling "YES." You know, there's a realistic limit to how much chocolate cake one would be happy with. At some point, you'll have eaten enough to be satisfied. At some further point, you would get a stomach ache. And eventually, you just wouldn't have enough room left to maneuver in your kitchen for all the chocolate cake. But if given the choice, I would foolishly request more than those amounts in my zeal for chocolate cake.
Because I really like chocolate cake.
I guess my point is "love the chocolate cake you have". But I hope my chocolate cake is tasty, and plentiful. Because I really like chocolate cake.
i think there should be 4 choice.
DFC
Small
Medium
Large
X-Large
I would go with Medium and Large so for the poll In between and Oppai.
Fixed for you. Why ignore the DFC option if you put X-large.
i think there should be 4 choice.
Small
Medium
Large
X-Large
I would go with Medium and Large so for the poll In between and Oppai.
Because they are subjective and lack meaning, just like the episode rating polls. What exactly should I think of 7/10 or what's the difference betwean "excellent" and "perfect". The problem with polls like that is that they try to be a statistic instead of offering the easily understandable opinions.
Anyway. I hate Big Busts, go generally for the Inbetween option, but think Flat Chest girls are really cute.
Voted only Inbetwean.
:heh:
if i were to choose, i'd go inbetween. Huge ones tends to take more of a woman's intelligence, imo.. :joke:
tho, in most anime they do.
personally, i find huge once to be rather, disfiguring. Certainly they look attractive in some other ways but, aside from that they just looks heavy :heh:
in terms of sizes;
petite/loli - attractive. cute. teaser.
average/above avg. - gorgeous. sexy. just right.
...says me :meh:
animeboy12
2008-09-28, 09:12
I wonder how this poll would go in a Japanese forum. There's a ample supply of anime characters with both types of body types so there most be a huge crowd for both.
I wonder how this poll would go in a Japanese forum. There's a ample supply of anime characters with both types of body types so there most be a huge crowd for both.
I think you give the companies too much credit...
As I see it the big boobs people are just the more noisy bunch.
Also, there's no doubt in my mind giving big boobs to characters in fanart is a anime meme. :heh:
animeboy12
2008-09-28, 09:23
I think you give the companies too much credit...
As I see it the big boobs people are just the more noisy bunch.
Also, there's no doubt in my mind giving big boobs to characters in fanart is a anime meme. :heh:
What trying to get at?
Deathkillz
2008-09-28, 09:24
I voted for both DFC and in-between. Big breasts are such a turn off because they no longer look human.
Ditto.
Getting turned on by big breasts is somewhat "huh" to me but...whatever they are into I guess. :)
animeboy12
2008-09-28, 09:39
Well the same could be said about people into loli or girl's with 12 year old bodies
DragoonKain3
2008-09-28, 10:03
^
Touche... :heh:
I wonder how this poll would go in a Japanese forum.
In an otaku Japanese forum? DFC will trounce everything, I'll imagine.
animeboy12
2008-09-28, 10:13
I'm just making sure both side are fairly represented. Personally I like both body types. The issue with me is how they're drawn. I like the character design in moetan but hated Kodomo no Jikan and I like the character design of dragonaut but hated eiken's
The only reason lean toward big breasts or in between because a good portion Flat Chested characters ,especially tomboys or one high school, have an androgynous look to their bodies
I like em when they look not super big or rediculously flat, but edging on bigger side
Flat chests FTW! Having big breasts accentuates femininity, and some men can find that intimidating. IRL anyway, maybe not in anime.
Slice of Life
2008-09-29, 04:46
What the average man considers attractive works quite well for me. I.e. slightly larger than average but not ridiculously so. So it would be "in between".
But voting "in between", "both", "or neither" is chickening out. So I gonna ignore that these options exist. :p
This leaves me with DFC which is not a turn-on and Dragonboobs which is definitely a turn-off. But since the question wasn't "what turns you on" but "what do you prefer to see" the answer is DFC, given the two alternatives.
Sorrow-K
2008-09-29, 11:42
Slife said what I was going to say. I think both extremes are pretty off-putting, but if I was going to lean, it'd be towards oppai. Kouzuki Kallen's rack would be pretty close to what I consider ideal (for an anime character).
I'm gonna vote oppai, since "in between" is fence sitting, and DFC is over-represented so far in this poll.
Nukerjsr
2008-09-29, 12:35
It mainly comes down to art style what is prefered than others. While there are several shows that have characters with both, there are those shows that cater to particularly one kind. Lucky Star comes to mind because even characters with reportedly gargantuan boobs still look rather petite.
Basically what Slice of Life said speaks for me. Both are fine and I prefer that middle to large range, but it's better to see flat chest in anime because DFC can't ever really disgust you. Scientifically we know what breasts do and it can be a little off-setting to see them completely narrow, but there's nothing wrong with it.
And isn't it odd that shows like Sekirei, Eiken and Kanokon which are fanservice shows tend to show big breasts looking kind of nasty? (Well, maybe not Sekerei so much) But they look swollen or saggy or fake. Just...why?
animeboy12
2008-09-29, 16:02
And isn't it odd that shows like Sekirei, Eiken and Kanokon which are fanservice shows tend to show big breasts looking kind of nasty? (Well, maybe not Sekerei so much) But they look swollen or saggy or fake. Just...why?
Kanokon?
It's not odd if you think about. The problem is breasts don't match the body type. I think most character designer are trying to have their cake and eat it too. They try to go lean slender body with big voluptuous breasts and they end up with a broomstick with two balloons attached to it.
I think Sekirei is ok with most people because they didn't cross the line of what's unnatural for that body type and most of the clothes that characters where don't exactly do anything to accentuates their breasts.
the girls in Eiken should been thicker and had a wider hips.
I don't know why every girl in anime has to be thin to be cute. Real drive proven that girls can have some meat on them and still look good.
I still think there has to be something there though if I only had the option of loli or oppai. It's kinda weird how in most anime series that only thing separating that flat-chested girl from being a boy is long hair and a skirt
Nukerjsr
2008-09-29, 17:06
Kanokon?
Well, while there is only one huge boobed girl in Kanokon, they do look rather awkward. Chiziru's breasts just look really horrible. I can't really posted a naked image, but there's a blog that shout help out in this situation:
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2008/06/15/kanokon-11/
If you look at that or a Megumi picture of her, they just look incredibly saggy and seperated. It's quite unflattering. >_>
animeboy12
2008-09-29, 20:07
The look fine to me.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7439/89747949ro6.jpg
^
Touche... :heh:
In an otaku Japanese forum? DFC will trounce everything, I'll imagine.No, it will be split very much between DFC and oppai. As appealing as DFC is, Japanese still love their oppai, they love it since the ancient times lol
Basically, variety makes the world go round and its good that there's also a variety of tastes to match up to that.
They look fine to me.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7439/89747949ro6.jpg
See, all I see is back pain, interference with arm motion, and massive sagging by middle age. :)
animeboy12
2008-09-29, 21:31
middle age?
she's 400 years old
I'm not saying saying I'm an expert but from what I've heard from physicians, female friends and......Oprah(no joke) most back pain because of breast size is due to wrong bra size. So I guess in anime world everybody has a perfect fitting bra.
Oh and she won't have back pain or sagging because those are a magical pair lol, meaning those are her magic.
animeboy12
2008-09-29, 21:48
that's right there was that episode were her "magic" disappeared
Fine, fine ... middle age for kitsune is 1000yrs :)
Besides, we're discussing "in general" which includes "human or close to it" for most of the subjects of this absurd but fun discussion.
All I'm saying is that certain body types hold up better than others over time. If you're not thinking that far ahead, carry on. :)
animeboy12
2008-09-29, 21:55
but does overtime really matter?
It's not like anyone's gonna care for a 40 year old big breasts or flat chested anime character. They'll be plenty of 16-20 year old anime characters to take her place. Anime series are stories not lives
Speaking of time. I continue this argument tomorrow I'm tired
I remember seeing this one picture explaining how small breasts are actually bigger than oppai breasts because it is only a part of a huge breast. Needless to say, I was amused by eleven's logic once again.
animeboy12
2008-09-29, 22:12
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7963/34800198mk6.jpg
yea sometimes I worry for Japan
DFC --- Me ----- Oppai
Normally is like that, (Ex: Rimi in my current signature), sometime it also can be reversed depending on who's the owner...
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7963/34800198mk6.jpg
yea sometimes I worry for Japan
That's hilarious ... creative way for the young lady to alter the young man's line of thinking.
In between for me even though a lot of my favorite characters seem to be DFC. Oppai is ok as long as it's not ridiculous.
DragoonKain3
2008-09-30, 00:01
It's not odd if you think about. The problem is breasts don't match the body type. I think most character designer are trying to have their cake and eat it too. They try to go lean slender body with big voluptuous breasts and they end up with a broomstick with two balloons attached to it.
QFT. That's my main gripe with oppai in the anime world... you'd be hard pressed to find any big busted women to be that thin IRL. It just looks so unnatural to me.
Real Drive (Sennou Chousashitsu), on the other hand, has more proper proportions in regards to bust to body. I absolutely love the character design, because the big busts is accompanied by a slightly more 'healthy' body, and looks much more believable than most of the oppai's you'd find in other shows.
FateAnomaly
2008-09-30, 00:50
In between for me even though a lot of my favorite characters seem to be DFC. Oppai is ok as long as it's not ridiculous.
I think its true for me too. I actually prefer average ones but some of them are DFC while very few if any are oppai. Being DFC doesn't gain any points with me but being an oppai lose points.
Anyway, i voted DFC because i originally thought in between means i like and dislike them both 50%. (Wasn't thinking too well :heh:)
QFT. That's my main gripe with oppai in the anime world... you'd be hard pressed to find any big busted women to be that thin IRL. It just looks so unnatural to me.
Real Drive (Sennou Chousashitsu), on the other hand, has more proper proportions in regards to bust to body. I absolutely love the character design, because the big busts is accompanied by a slightly more 'healthy' body, and looks much more believable than most of the oppai's you'd find in other shows.
Not just unnatural, it defies logic and gravity.
since they apparently have amazing back as they can even stand straight for years and years.
and capable of jumping all over the place like a ninja.when you have like a rice bag attached to your chest.
well enough of that
i vote in between.
flat isn't that bad but i dont favour it either.
too big reminds me of a cover of those strange porn movies
Irenicus
2008-09-30, 01:40
translation for the pic?
Seconded.
Also, what manga is that?
translation for the pic?I'll just translate the entire thing in a single explanation.
Like the girl said, 'Please have a good look at this.'
By using the percentage of protrusion, you can calculate the true volume of the breast.
Comparing a large breast to a flat chest. There's quite a big of nipple protrusion from the large breast, it warrants a size of only that big(refer to diagram/pic). But look at the flat chest, there's much lesser protrusion, this means that its only the surface of a huge circle that hides behind it. Much like the larger the breast the flatter the protrusion, its the same theory.
The guy said: its like that...?
animeboy12
2008-09-30, 06:47
Not just unnatural, it defies logic and gravity.
since they apparently have amazing back as they can even stand straight for years and years.
and capable of jumping all over the place like a ninja.when you have like a rice bag attached to your chest.
It's unnatural but I'd advise anyone to look up minka Maxi Mounds, Kayla Kleevage, and especially Chelsea Charms before saying big breasts defy logic and gravity.
It's weird that people talk but breasts causing back in anime when they're perfect ok with character lifting up tanks, or punching holes though walls.
space cowboy
2008-09-30, 07:24
This entire topic reminds me of mahoromatic lol, anyway i like a bit of both really.
Nukerjsr
2008-09-30, 08:32
It's weird that people talk but breasts causing back in anime when they're perfect ok with character lifting up tanks, or punching holes though walls.
Well, yeah animeboy, it's anime. Normal issues usually don't have to carry over. :P
I'll just translate the entire thing in a single explanation.
Like the girl said, 'Please have a good look at this.'
By using the percentage of protrusion, you can calculate the true volume of the breast.
Comparing a large breast to a flat chest. There's quite a big of nipple protrusion from the large breast, it warrants a size of only that big(refer to diagram/pic). But look at the flat chest, there's much lesser protrusion, this means that its only the surface of a huge circle that hides behind it. Much like the larger the breast the flatter the protrusion, its the same theory.
The guy said: its like that...?
I always thought that the size of the nipple was usually more random. But if that is true how part of it hides inside of the body, then it's quite believeable. The human penis is the same way.
QFT. That's my main gripe with oppai in the anime world... you'd be hard pressed to find any big busted women to be that thin IRL. It just looks so unnatural to me.
Real Drive (Sennou Chousashitsu), on the other hand, has more proper proportions in regards to bust to body. I absolutely love the character design, because the big busts is accompanied by a slightly more 'healthy' body, and looks much more believable than most of the oppai's you'd find in other shows.
If the breasts in question look like they fit on the body, it's ok. But there are some cases. Like with what I ranted about with Chiziru earlier, she looks like they would fit on her but the breasts themselves look kind of bad. But the way art style affects things does play an interesting role. Another good example of too big would be Tiffania Westwood from the Zero no Tsukaima series. JC Staff has them look fine, but they literally are the "big as your head" sized.
I'll just translate the entire thing in a single explanation.
Like the girl said, 'Please have a good look at this.'
By using the percentage of protrusion, you can calculate the true volume of the breast.
Comparing a large breast to a flat chest. There's quite a big of nipple protrusion from the large breast, it warrants a size of only that big(refer to diagram/pic). But look at the flat chest, there's much lesser protrusion, this means that its only the surface of a huge circle that hides behind it. Much like the larger the breast the flatter the protrusion, its the same theory.
The guy said: its like that...?
LOL. Silly, but plausible in the anime world. :p
animeboy12
2008-09-30, 17:14
Well, yeah animeboy, it's anime. Normal issues usually don't have to carry over. :P
I always thought that the size of the nipple was usually more random. But if that is true how part of it hides inside of the body, then it's quite believeable. The human penis is the same way.
If the breasts in question look like they fit on the body, it's ok. But there are some cases. Like with what I ranted about with Chiziru earlier, she looks like they would fit on her but the breasts themselves look kind of bad. But the way art style affects things does play an interesting role. Another good example of too big would be Tiffania Westwood from the Zero no Tsukaima series. JC Staff has them look fine, but they literally are the "big as your head" sized.
Yea, personally that's what I like about the character design of dragoanut and gravion the small breasts are on the slender body while the girls with big breasts are older, have wider hips and are thicker.
It's unnatural but I'd advise anyone to look up minka Maxi Mounds, Kayla Kleevage, and especially Chelsea Charms before saying big breasts defy logic and gravity.
It's weird that people talk but breasts causing back in anime when they're perfect ok with character lifting up tanks, or punching holes though walls.
exaggeration is nice. especially when people get them. this time it didn't go through.
It's not weird at all.
Elongate the legs is fine
elongate the waist? is NOT fine
elongate the hip? is Not fine
elongate the neck is fine
if you studied proportions and human figures you would know which places to temper with. and which places to leave alone. to certain degree.
they are unwritten rules everywhere.
Xellos-_^
2008-10-01, 11:59
Not just unnatural, it defies logic and gravity.
since they apparently have amazing back as they can even stand straight for years and years.
and capable of jumping all over the place like a ninja.when you have like a rice bag attached to your chest.
well enough of that
i vote in between.
flat isn't that bad but i dont favour it either.
too big reminds me of a cover of those strange porn movies
which strange porn movies and where did you see them :cool:
^
lol, i went to trip to europe and my roomate had all those dvds. and was proudly presenting them.
i was like woahh..
it was like boobbuster 7 or some crap like that.
Xellos-_^
2008-10-01, 14:54
sure blame it on the European and sure it was your roommates collection :p
There's some magazine that I come across occasionally called "Milk" or some such. It must work for some people because it sells but I find most of the drawings in it just.... unattractive and freakish. You almost can't see the navels or the face of the poor lasses. Obviously, YMMV and that makes the world go round.
rainnydaiis
2008-10-01, 21:56
I have to say I'm pretty much in between, but I usually like DFC more most of the time. I can't really put up an argument why I like DFC more most of the time, but I just do o_O.
Paladinoras
2008-10-02, 00:23
I will go with normal sized.
I am fine with both as long as they are proportional and the girl is actually pretty.
My principle: Anything else, there is plastic surgery, but once ugly, ALWAYS UGLY!!!
I would say realistic or natural even if in anime, some big boob seem realistic when in reality the girl would need surgery for having such asset.
It depent of the rest of the ''frame''. if the rest is small, how could be the burst being big ( especially with anorexic looking girl)?
animeboy12
2008-10-05, 11:36
I would say realistic or natural even if in anime, some big boob seem realistic when in reality the girl would need surgery for having such asset.
It depent of the rest of the ''frame''. if the rest is small, how could be the burst being big ( especially with anorexic looking girl)?
I'd look up
Rachel Aldana, Nelli Roono,Alicia Loren,Devyn Devine milena velba
when it comes to human body shape, don't rule anything out
anime ronin
2008-10-05, 15:27
bust size or in between, though its not like ill like the character because of her size... it doesnt really matter as long as she has a fun personality and is a fun character...
bust size or in between, though its not like ill like the character because of her size... it doesnt really matter as long as she has a fun personality and is a fun character...
That is true... unless you are supperficial as much as most of the peoples.
Xellos-_^
2008-10-06, 00:04
bust size or in between, though its not like ill like the character because of her size... it doesnt really matter as long as she has a fun personality and is a fun character...
isn't this what you usually tell someone when you are trying to fixing them up on a blind date :heh:
kk2extreme
2008-10-06, 00:27
i dont like artificial big bust. it is just too... artificial :heh:, if it is natural, then it looks great.
as for lolis, they are just too cute to ignore
there are too many in between girls, it is saturating the market, im not saying that they are bad or anything, but there are too many and they become common.
for eye candies, i would go for lolis first, then "natural big bust", and in between last :D
Well... Depends on just HOW big we're talking about and what kind of shape we're talking about. I mean... Are they BIGGER than Sekirei's? I can live with Sekirei level bust, and if I had a choice between those and lolis or even Ranka's level from Macross, I'd pick the bigger ones. But yeah, best are usually medium or slightly bigger. But Musubi's and Tsukiumi's assets are lovely, too ^^ /drools
todkapuz
2008-10-07, 20:30
never been a huge oppai guy... at somepoint it gets beyond realism.. which is fine from time to time... but generally love a more normal or slightly petite.
It depent of the rest of the ''frame''. if the rest is small, how could be the burst being big ( especially with anorexic looking girl)?
I agree. You can't simply call a loli a loli if she has big breasts. It's just not right :heh:
animeboy12
2008-10-08, 06:45
isn't this what you usually tell someone when you are trying to fixing them up on a blind date :heh:
i dont like artificial big bust. it is just too... artificial :heh:, if it is natural, then it looks great.
as for lolis, they are just too cute to ignore
there are too many in between girls, it is saturating the market, im not saying that they are bad or anything, but there are too many and they become common.
for eye candies, i would go for lolis first, then "natural big bust", and in between last :D
What do you mean by artificial or natural bust (exmple)?
anime ronin right though, It really depends on personality more than anything. To me though I find that if I were to make a list of big breasted and flat chested characters I like the characters on the big breasted side more. Big breasts girls like masane from witchblade, tsukiumi from sekirei or the girls in divergence eve just appeal to me more than most of the flat chested girls
Oh I can understand the loli appeal, I just prefer bigger ones :p I doubt I'll turn down a girl that has everything else but is kinda loli-like. But still... Big ones are nice ^^
Perhaps I'm just old school, but I don't understand this growing fetish for little girls. In Japan small is cute, yes, but I don't know, just seems disturbing. Give me a real women, with curves!
.... well, you've just eliminated probably over half the women in the world because they are small and trim. Whatever.... :)
and... "old school" kind of depends on how far back you want to go and in what culture... so you aren't necessarily "old school" :)
.... well, you've just eliminated probably over half the women in the world because they are small and trim. Whatever.... :)
and... "old school" kind of depends on how far back you want to go and in what culture... so you aren't necessarily "old school" :)
I don't really know about the 'old school' specifics of Xvoki. However for example here in the UK, I've been here from 7 years now since when I came from Colombia, and the rule here, rather than the exception is that old-teens and women have a well-rounded body.
Different from back home where it was more on the average size, or for example among the big chinese community here who are mostly of a petite size.
Of course this could be off from a real average norm, but it just comes down at the small sample that I have been able to witness during all this time in different regions. So I do understand where is Xvoki's comment coming from.
On topic, I'm not picky irl but anime-wise I lean towards the DFC group since big busty type are usually drawn rather unappealing to me (i.e Sekirei, Divergence Eve).
That was my point... "normal" and "old school" have purely local meanings for most people --- and the standards or history in, say, New Jersey or Wales, don't correlate with several billion other people somewhere else necessarily.
I think it was the "real woman" part (as if the others weren't) that had me wanting to poke a bit. :)
Plus I think a lot of posters seem to have forgotten the OP's poll was referring to characters in anime.
What difference does it make? :p e.g. I like girls, real or otherwise, with bigger than average bust more than the rest :p No medium is gonna change that :p
That was my point... "normal" and "old school" have purely local meanings for most people --- and the standards or history in, say, New Jersey or Wales, don't correlate with several billion other people somewhere else necessarily.
I think it was the "real woman" part (as if the others weren't) that had me wanting to poke a bit. :)
Plus I think a lot of posters seem to have forgotten the OP's poll was referring to characters in anime.
I thought the meaning was clear. Perhaps I should have rephrased it better, but real life is pushing me for time, and clearly regional differences in interpretation are now obvious. I was referring to the growing popularity in loli fetishism (i.e. small breasts), not such a big thing when I first started watching anime, and my opinion that I preferred women with boobs (i.e. big breasts). :)
Well, "prefer" does mean that it's not a big deal if the girl is a loli. Loli fetishism means that there's something strangely abnormal about it. Relative and absolute preference are different. I could prefer big bust goddesses, but it really goes with the person. Hirano Aya is, you know, not on the big side, but she's cute, I'd date her any day ^^ (although our personalities MIGHT be incompatible, I still find her cute enough to consider). Absolute preference would mean something like "Argh, small breasts... Deal breaker..." Personally, I'm of the relative type :p
animeboy12
2008-10-08, 21:25
.... well, you've just eliminated probably over half the women in the world because they are small and trim. Whatever.... :)
and... "old school" kind of depends on how far back you want to go and in what culture... so you aren't necessarily "old school" :)
half? I sure there a a lot slim and trim women but i don't think it's a dominating body. If anything I'd say most women are mostly either average. Out of the three, I take average any day
@Xvoki
You have to be a little more specific with what you mean be "old school" but I think look at a lot of the older anime series in the before the 2000s had women with defining features(breasts, wide hips, and breasts). I don't no about the "real woman" part but I do want women with curves.
Personally though I really can't understand people's attraction to underdeveloped bodies, loli DFC or whatever they're called. Nothing against it, I think Haruhi Fujioka from Ouran High School Host Club or ranka lee macross frontier, in my opinion are two ridiculously beautiful characters and are flat chested. At the same time portrayed well and wear clothes that are cute but don't bring attention to they wear don't bring attention to their womanly feature or lack there of.
But then there stuff like zero no Tsukaima
http://blog.seiha.org/images/znt11/znt11_42.jpg
http://blog.seiha.org/images/znt11/znt11_41.jpg
http://blog.seiha.org/images/znt11/znt11_12.jpg
how is looking like a starving child attractive?
Actually, I'd term those ZnT images more as terrible artwork :)
Wow .... :P
Though seriously I'd not call it "starving". methinks people's eyes have been dulled by the preponderance of obesity (from morbid to overweight) in the US and some other countries.
Actually it does feel rather starving. A disturbing percentage is obese, but an equally disturbing percentage has anorexia. And both seem like plagues to me, but we hardly give anorexia the attention it deserves cause the media tend to glorify slimness, causing many teens to go overboard, and never being pleased with the result. Obesity is attacked on every front, yet all I see nowadays are more and more girls getting thinner and thinner. My experience with walking skeletons is increasing far more than the image of obese girls on the streets.
Happy medium is the best, but having a few extra pounds in those bouncy places up front never hurts ^^
Personally though I really can't understand people's attraction to underdeveloped bodies, loli DFC or whatever they're called. Nothing against it, I think Haruhi Fujioka from Ouran High School Host Club or ranka lee macross frontier, in my opinion are two ridiculously beautiful characters and are flat chested. At the same time portrayed well and wear clothes that are cute but don't bring attention to they wear don't bring attention to their womanly feature or lack there of.
But then there stuff like zero no Tsukaima
http://blog.seiha.org/images/znt11/znt11_42.jpg
http://blog.seiha.org/images/znt11/znt11_41.jpg
http://blog.seiha.org/images/znt11/znt11_12.jpg
how is looking like a starving child attractive?
obviously you are looking too much into Zero no Tsukaima. Not every loli-anime girl look like a starve child. Actually, i'm more surprised that she's still a child.. i mean shouldn't it have been atleast 1-2years before ZT:PoR. I stopped watching when i got to ep.3 so i don't really know.
Totally flat ist not one of my preferences, however, i've been positively surprised before so it's not a total no-go but depending on other criteria like general body, face etc.
Small and Medium are ok. Large and Oppai.. no.. just no, a major turn-off.
We should have an image-thread for further discussing. :>
There's a few images in the thread. As long as one if prudent and thumbnails it, the occasional explanatory image should be fine :)
Nukerjsr
2008-10-09, 14:31
Well, I guess with images, then this art piece from Sekirei should come into play:
http://blog.seiha.org/images/sekirei8/sekirei8_5.jpg
I'm a fan of boobs, sure. But something looks really off with those. The lines make them look so unnatural, like they are hanging from her shoulders or collarbone than her chest. Shouldn't they be in the middle? Let's add some physics and anatomy into the equation of large boobs, k? All that space in between is such a buzzkill.
Like I've said, art style plays a big role.
aye its called "the artist failed Anatomy 101" .... I'll be the first to grant that anime character design is surreal/distorted but -- really, animated boobs (large or small) should at least vaguely follow anatomical rules. The results are much sexier than the example you provide.
That might as well be some scratching on a wall :P
Actually it's not just the size that's the problem. Sometimes even average just isn't pretty cause the shape and all that stuff. The size is a factor, but it's hardly the determining factor. HOWEVER given that both medium and big are of optimal shape and having the optimal characteristics for their size, I'd still pick the bigger ones :p Yeah sometimes Sekirei busts look strange, but in general I don't mind the size.
Nukerjsr
2008-10-09, 15:49
Actually it's not just the size that's the problem. Sometimes even average just isn't pretty cause the shape and all that stuff. The size is a factor, but it's hardly the determining factor. HOWEVER given that both medium and big are of optimal shape and having the optimal characteristics for their size, I'd still pick the bigger ones :p Yeah sometimes Sekirei busts look strange, but in general I don't mind the size.
I think if we go deeper into it, clothes make a rather big difference too as well as bras. A larger bust means a stronger, more supportive bra. A smaller does not require one as much as a larger, because gravity falls into place for the later.
Xellos-_^
2008-10-09, 15:55
I think if we go deeper into it, clothes make a rather big difference too as well as bras. A larger bust means a stronger, more supportive bra. A smaller does not require one as much as a larger, because gravity falls into place for the later.
except in space then it floats by itself :heh:
animeboy12
2008-10-09, 16:45
As much as I love the way sekirei breasts are drawn like sekirei, they breasts do have their unappealing moment. I think her breasts look that way because that's a screen of her while's she moving but breast tissue can start from the collerbone.
Here's a another picture of her looking a lot better
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8881/31148679xa7.jpg
I don't don't think that anime need to follow human anatomy. For me I'm fine as long as they get the human shape right.
come to think of it larger breasts can mean more strength
shiba kuukaku from bleach
tsukiumi musubi from sekirei
amaha masane from witchblade
fujiwara naeka from kamen no maid guy
garnet mclane from Dragonaut
klan klein (adult) from macross frontier
Junko Asagiri from Sunabozu
all of them happen to be really strong women with really large bra size. It hold true for DFC charcter but kinda in the less believable ,male character's not gonna retaliate way.
except in space then it floats by itself :heh:
viva zero-g?
The problem with this is the same problem with supportive bras in general: Without use, the ligaments, tendons, muscles, and other tissues atrophy, leading to increased sag. Which is nine kinds of tragic. :(
You know, I don't have any hope of this thread rising above mediocrity, and yet still, here I am, returning repeatedly. Like a moth to a bug zapper. As though I have a genetic weakness affecting judgment concerning the subject matter. Must be a fluke. Must be.
DragoonKain3
2008-10-09, 16:53
Wee! Images!
I think Ar Tonelico sums it all up...
loli (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5285/)
DFC (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5293/)
(Above?) Average (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5275/)
OPPAI! (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5283/)
^ Actually that's bad, I find all girls pretty, I have difficulty in choosing... LOL :p
Xellos-_^
2008-10-09, 17:03
Wee! Images!
I think Ar Tonelico sums it all up...
loli (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5285/)
DFC (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5293/)
(Above?) Average (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5275/)
OPPAI! (http://animeartbooks.net/viewimage/5283/)
I will take Maria-sans advice I would choose then all :D
Average definitely looks good among those 4.
Among those four, everything look good :p
Well for a decent comparison we'd need the same anime character in 4 different variations. As it is, a number of issues may be responsible for distinguishing between those specific characters besides bust size.
Well for a decent comparison we'd need the same anime character in 4 different variations. As it is, a number of issues may be responsible for distinguishing between those specific characters besides bust size.
Good luck on finding one of those. I don't know of any anime character who develops through all four categories of breast size.
Nah, I was talking about decent enough fanart variation. I doubt we can find the same character with different bust size otherwise :p
Xellos-_^
2008-10-09, 18:56
Good luck on finding one of those. I don't know of any anime character who develops through all four categories of breast size.
The closest would be Nanoha who went form Loli (Original, A's) to Medium (StrikerS).
True, there's tons of Nanoha and Fate fanart, and if you need the bigger busts, StrikerS h-doujinshi is the way to go :p
The examples invoke the "gotta catch 'em all" justification. -~-
Xellos-_^
2008-10-09, 20:31
The examples invoke the "gotta catch 'em all" justification. -~-
or in real life convert to islam and move to the middle east :p
animeboy12
2008-10-09, 23:05
flat
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3213/98931869qs8.jpg
average
http://tinyurl.com/3nyxmk
large
http://tinyurl.com/4ar6qs
huge
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2903/42010433yz3.jpg
Nukerjsr
2008-10-09, 23:17
I wonder if there's a recent breast size chart for Zero no Tsukaima. That thing covers from flat as a board to gigantic and everything in between
animeboy12
2008-10-09, 23:24
good luck with the everything in between part
here's one from mai-hime
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1416/97556913fq2.jpg
actually, I think animeboy12's images went straight from "DFC" to "large"/"huge"/"absolutely absurd" --- there's at least one or two points between those first two examples. 0.o
Ah well, next try? edit: the mai-hime chart comes a lot closer to some sort of equi-distant example set.
(right, we're getting silly aren't we)
animeboy12
2008-10-09, 23:30
what are you going by real world standards or anime?
Anime actually.... it may be that we spend time in different genre :)
here's one from mai-hime
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1416/97556913fq2.jpg
Gigglesnort at Shiho in the middle with her padding. (I'm surprised they incorporated that practice into the character that early...)
Mai HiME earns points for *gasp* having characters who didn't have their bust sizes and personalities/story roles integrally linked.
Another thing to take into account here is, while we know that drawings will often have greater proportions, it isn't just because they can. Sometimes they actually need to, because a simplified visual representation may very well require exaggeration to give the same visual impression as a realistic image. Comparison between 2D and 3D ladies of different styles/anatomies can shed light on that issue.
I agree with Vexx on the pics. Kanokon and Sekirei fall under the same "Ultra biggie drool goodies", and Seto's could be barely described as average, she's rather well endowed, sure not huge though so it might be a well shaped average. We could use one (either Kanokon and Sekirei) and find another with small bust, cause Louise... She's more DFC than small :p
animeboy12
2008-10-10, 08:16
Anime actually.... it may be that we spend time in different genre :)
Anime genre? mabye, I have no preference to what anime I watch, including genre, but I will admit I do watch a lot of ecchi due to the fact that it seems to be a dying breed as far as genre is concern
I disagree that those pics went to "DFC" to "large"/"huge"/"absolutely absurd"
In my eyes
In the second pic Seto sun would at best be in C-cup territory which is average for most women.
in the second pic
Chizuru at best would be sporting DD, which is usually considered large for most women. I know DD are large but they're usually never as big or larger than a woman's head
in the third pic
I dunno, As big breasts look, the don't look that much bigger Ourei Harada(was),a famous gravure Idol. both of them have similar measurements and the same height of 5 ft 2 in
Musubi (97-58-89)
Ourei(97-60-88cm)
I wish I could show me real life pics
You need to work on your definitions of "most women" but, whatever.....
Yeah, if MOST women had C cup, the world would be kinda nice :p DD is already in the Oppai category (Big bust). I mean, you know DD IS big, and we don't have cup categories in the poll. You could think of it as DFC (A-), loli (whatever is left of A+B), normal (mostly C at best, unless you include D as being marginally in the average category O_o), and Big (D+), in which case big bust gravure idols all fall in the same category whether they are F, G, or even H. I mean, it is ALREADY ridiculously big :p And personally after D, it hardly makes much of a difference to me, I like them as long as their other characteristics are nice ^^
animeboy12
2008-10-10, 10:44
I'm thinking of American bra size, and the average bra size here 36C, might be surprising but when you consider that about 60% of American are overweight, which mean a lot of fat tissue which breasts are composed of, makes sense.
If you wanna know what a 36c looks like
Jennifer Love Hewitt, Carmen Electra,or Rose McGowan
It a lot bigger than most people think it is
Eh... we WERE talking about NORMAL girls and compared bust sizes. I don't think many people like excessively fat or excessively slim girls in the western countries with whatever bust size. Not sure about where the rest falls, but I do think that no one likes the extremes in weight.
animeboy12
2008-10-10, 11:11
Eh... we WERE talking about NORMAL girls and compared bust sizes. I don't think many people like excessively fat or excessively slim girls in the western countries with whatever bust size. Not sure about where the rest falls, but I do think that no one likes the extremes in weight.
Do you no the average bra of women with an average waistline is in America is?
All I said was that the average bra size of all women in America(slim, average, thick, chubby, obese or any other) is 36C
I even gave examples of "normal" girls
Yeah then it depends on what you consider average. Is average a pure notion, unaffected by the world, or should we measure everyone and create a statistical distribution of bust sizes and then make up the categories?
I'm thinking of American bra size, and the average bra size here 36C, might be surprising but when you consider that about 60% of American are overweight, which mean a lot of fat tissue which breasts are composed of, makes sense.
If you wanna know what a 36c looks like
Jennifer Love Hewitt, Carmen Electra,or Rose McGowan
It a lot bigger than most people think it is
Okay, this is a bit silly, .... reference citation please for your "average = 36C" ..... You've just cited extremely non-average examples, even for America - and at least one of them (Carmen) has had augmentation.
Quick google of stats says "34B"
Journal for Sex Research (vol. 24,pp. 177-183),
The average breast size in the U.S. is 35.9 inches, roughly equivalent to a 34B bra, which is the average bra size in America.
AA cup: 2%
A cup: 15%
B cup: 44% <
C cup: 28%
D cup: 10%
DD cup: 1%
And once again, the OP poll was about anime characters.
Okay, this is a bit silly, .... reference citation please for your "average = 36C" ..... You've just cited extremely non-average examples, even for America - and at least one of them (Carmen) has had augmentation.
Quick google of stats says "34B"And once again, the OP poll was about anime characters.
Ah good, I thought I wasn't living on Earth for a second :p
Yeah but how do you define anime characters bust as opposed to real girls? I mean, we tend to pick the girls we like in both worlds with pretty much the same criteria :p
In anime, its really going to be about the artistry in making them seem "real" (the whole body, not just the first measurement). The stats posted on official websites are often pretty meaningless in absolutes when you actually look at the characters as they are drawn (more of a relative reference).
Japanese anime girls seem to mostly live in the 4'9 - 5'5 height range and have commiserate 3-sizes (though it depends on the source material -- eroge sources tend to be optimistic at times, and stories involving international casts or unusual settings are all over the place).
animeboy12
2008-10-10, 12:29
time magazine
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1208335,00.html?cnn=yes
"the average size of the American breast has grown from 34B to 36C , according to manufacturers".
even in England
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-509323/Why-British-womans-cleavage-gone-34B-36C-decade.html
In less than ten years the average bra size has grown from a 34B to 36C.
Nukerjsr
2008-10-10, 12:33
I think if you want to go for a girl for breast size between flat and average, I think Yuki from SHnY would suffice.
animeboy12
2008-10-10, 12:34
want does SHoY mean?
Well, I haven't been to Japan, I do get that feel from the slice-of-life series I've watched. That in general Japanese girls tend to occupy the smaller sizes and gravure idols with huge busts are in the rare category apparently.
I don't know, most busts seem pretty real to me in anime, although terribly idealized, they don't sag, they bounce healthily on every occasion, so they're not plastic, they are always soft and squeezable. I mean, you know, it eventually becomes another case of anime vs real girls. And I remember a topic like that getting locked :rollingeyes:
Anyway, anime or not, I still prefer the bigger busts (yes, even F,G, or H, as long as the shape and all the other stuff don't really kill them) , without actually excluding liking girls even like Louise more than their bigger bust opponents, that depends on the girl though. In anime sometimes I like loli girls more than the rest. In the end it's not really the bust size that matters when I choose my favorite anime girl in the series, but yeah, for me a big bust would be an extra bonus.
Edit: SHnY, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu - The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi.
(sigh) animeboy12, ever been shopping with a girl? I referenced actual measurements from a science journal, not a Time Magazine article reporting manufacturing claims.
Clothing manufacturers have been upsizing clothing, lingerie, and shoes for the last two decades so that women can pretend they're somewhere on the scale they're not.
My wife has moved from a size 4 to a size 0 in 30 years.... but she weighs exactly the same and has exactly the same measurements she's had since college.
She's moved from a size 5 shoe to a size 3. Her feet have the same dimensions.
Guess what is the only number that has gone up? Her "bra size" .....
Manufacturer sizes have not stayed constant nor do they reflect the reality of the tape measure.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/05/05/0_is_the_new_8/
http://www.justsaywhen.com/Vintage-101-Sizing.htm
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/lifestyle/2006-07/10/content_637706.htm
Also, as Npal indirectly notes - Japanese manufacture bra sizes are not the same as American bra sizes. For them, a "C" is our "B" and they have a wider range.
animeboy12
2008-10-10, 13:50
@Vexx, once with my ex-girlfriend and remember well because that was the day I fell asleep standing for the first time in my life
anyway I guess you're right. I thought time magizine would be a reliable source but since there getting info from the manufactures and not from the people themselves it does leave questions to the reliability.
@npal
yea, least for me, It's very hard for me to find anything in anime that's could be classified as unrealistc or fake.It fact I've only heard of plastic surgey referenced 3 anime series out of the hundreds I've watched.
I agree bust size shouldn't really affect enjoy of effect the enjoy of the character. However, I do feel that with flat-chest characters are kinda samey to me.
No one's arguing about taste, everyone should be allowed their preferences and that its a Good Thing that there are characters (and real people) who fit those preferences. :)
People like buxom anime characters? Great, plenty of choices.
'normal' girls? Great, plenty of choices.
petite elfin characters? Great, plenty of choices
In between those? Tall, willowy, short, stacked, vice versa...... there's usually an example in every other harem series or so.
If I look over my list of "favorite femme characters" -- there's actually a considerable distribution of heights/3sizes and such...
MidnightViper88
2008-10-11, 00:10
...
Lemme just throw out that
Small breasts =/= Lolita complex
Quit making generalizations, dammit! :p
...
Lemme just throw out that
Small breasts =/= Lolita complex
Quit making generalizations, dammit! :p
I agree with you on that one. I got one example on mind ( light novel related, not anime): flat but still feminine , and as a 3th yeat high school student she is too old for being a Loli .
the "loli","lolita","lolicon" terms have been made almost useless by idiots who don't know where to apply it, what it means, but they know if they sling it as a derogatory at any show that features petite or waifish character design, they increase their e-pene in their own minds.
So it goes :P
for me is from flat (or small) to medium. I mean balance, must look ok with the body shape.
animeboy12
2008-12-14, 23:33
zombie topic
I was able to find a good chart about anime breast sizes
http://www.yuribou.net/blog/?p=276
0utf0xZer0
2008-12-15, 01:32
The kemonomimi fan in me is tempted to parody this by starting something about ear or tail sizes, with the largest of the latter being classified as a "body pillow".
I tend to like mid-sized myself. DFC is a bit of a turn off for me and Kanokon/Sekerei type designs are definitely a turn off. If it falls between the two, I'm good. A lot of an anime girl's hotness will come from how she expresses herself anyway.
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