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monir
2009-06-13, 03:20
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Von Himmel
2009-06-13, 04:04
Kitta----------!!!
That reminds me, I haven't seen the full preview pics for this episode yet :(

zibi88
2009-06-13, 05:12
Kitta----------!!!
That reminds me, I haven't seen the full preview pics for this episode yet :(

in ep22 thread I somewhere posted all spoiler pictures of ep23 so you have to go an look a little ^^

Von Himmel
2009-06-13, 05:27
Ah yes, I searched for it after I posted that ^^;
Nice goat btw ;(

Seems like this episode would be awesome too :x

Renegade334
2009-06-13, 10:54
I'll put this up right now since the thread has already shown up (although the discussion is still geared towards Asura Cryin' even as I type) and you won't have to wait for another belated post of mine.

Koukaku no Regios episode 23 (tentative)
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EDIT: link prematurely removed as I'm going to be off the airwaves for most of tomorrow and the link needs to be taken down before sundown. Sorry for those who wanted some insight about this ep, but you'll have to set camp at the usual places of distribution rather than zipping through the 2chan link. Just wait for the raw to show the tip of its nose and then nab it (figuratively, I mean).

Von Himmel
2009-06-13, 11:29
I think the episode should've finished by now. . . I think there's going to be more picture after this but oh well.

Nice goat btw :(
and at last ! Leerin duet song for ED !

TrueKnight
2009-06-13, 11:34
Yay Renegade,

Pic spam alert!



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Haha so many stuffs happen, don't know shit, way to go....oh wow.

zibi88
2009-06-13, 12:12
I was wondering about that queen-savaris scene..... what are they talking about >__< does Savaris try to convince ot give that sword to Layfon.... or they found a new person to put it on 12th spot... I wonder need raw to confirm what they are talking about >__< but that's minimum 1-2h till something will appear ;/

And it seems that Leerin will ask Gorneo to take that sword to lafyon who is on the battlefield >__< (damn it I hoped fo her to give him personaly....)

I wonder when pictures for next ep will appear...... anwyay right now a mass fight is happening with all HB takeing place in the fight :P

babydemongirl
2009-06-13, 13:36
so we get the chance to see the other heaven blade in action huh... interesting

panpo98
2009-06-13, 14:48
so we get the chance to see the other heaven blade in action huh... interesting

Yeah looks like it. But what are the other enemies the HB are fighting thinking. Do they rely think they have any chance against so many HB (on and of screen). They keep coming full of self confidence. Are the enemies totally out of their minds?

Many HB sure will be busy this and next ep on different fronts.

And can't they make another Regios series with more (cool) HB fights. How many episodes do we get to see them in action. Ep 1, 23 and 24?

zibi88
2009-06-13, 14:54
hmm I saw the raw just now... and I have kinda mixed feelings.... I mean dont know if the episode is going closer to novel or its going its own way since at the last few minutes Savaris kidnapps uncouncious nina..... later Leerin with Naruki meet Gorneo and Leerin askd Gorneo to take the psyharden katana to Layfon... end and preview of next ep......... even more mixed feelings... since a monster enters zerenii... and I think kinda evolves a bit... we see Haikizoku maybe at grendan they are trying to remove it from nina.... too confuseing for now needs pictures >__<

I was wondering about novel or not becouse Queen is at the castle... Leerin at Zerenii.... and Nina is taken by savaris... (in novel queen took both leerin and nina at the same time...) I think its going its own way now... and mostly next ep. layfon will get his katana back...

anyway this episode was too much crushed into 1... they could make 26episodes and slightly show more of those stuff in separete way...... first of all we see monster getting split in to and from taht 2monsters appeared XD, later we see that witch with guns searching for the intruder Dixerio.... lots of fox people in grendan few HB are fighting them... (canalice. witch [cant remember her name], that old bold geezer, that guy old guy with mustache and that large guy in bronze armour).... later we skip to zerenii... felli scene that telsl brother that she is going along with team17... back to grendan....here is a scene I was wondering about which is the queen and savaris talk...... but well it apperas taht Savaris just come back to pick up his golden dite [saying that he is different to layfon {mostly becouse he compared to layfon come back to pick up his weapon} dont know what queen said but maybe something that is layfon still fighting or something [pr if he has a grudge against layfon or something like that].... later Nina-Haikizoku attacks Layfon he got hit and fells on the ground... nina attacks 2nd time but Layfon dodges it from udner kicks nina [he done similar thing to naruki in that training sesion and make her fly xD] and the same pulled her mask off >__< [I guess streight lined attacks are not good to fight layfon ^^] after this few minutes of talk between them while rideing back to zerenii... [nina about how she is weak and scared of the haikizoku... and layfon on why he stopped useing katana {it has to do with his close people feelings Delk included how he kidna betrayed them and so while stopping useing katana he punishes himself for that}]..... well in meantime there was leerin remembering how layfon was in the past... and after hearing that layfon is heading to the mosnters leerin runs out of the shelter to find gorneo......... ok last moments are layfon heading to the monsters.... we see 1-2min of few other hb fighting mosnters [lintence, dwarf XD, the pink haired dark skinned big breasted HB lance user, and that glass guy [he is useing stuff like a magician]..........and rest is felli saying that nina got kindapped..


So I would say.... they putted to much stuff into 1episode... and whole makes kinda confuesing and messy..... they could split up the fighting into 2episodes and give more stuff with other HB fightings... and here maybe 4-5minutes in general (like 2groups of HB... and each of them has 2 maybe 3minutes of screen time...).... anyway Canalice, witch and other HB kinda looks weak to me.... I mean that witch is usieng a gun but she misses so much >__< but when she swtiched to level2 gun it kinda reminded me of Terminator movie (arnold holding the railgun in that stiff stance)... but she used something like a large explodeing bullet >__< we dont see much power when they were fghtng those fox people... Nina could foight them... and here fw HB and they had kinda problems with them >__< Layfon would solo all those fox people by himself....

So what was weak in this episode is not so much screen time of other HB fights..... we cant compare their power to Layfon this way >__<

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panpo98
2009-06-13, 15:13
My opinion of the so called Super Nina vs Layfon was... Huh!? :) Hahahahah. So that's how it is done.

zibi88
2009-06-13, 15:16
My opinion of the so called Super Nina vs Layfon was... Huh!? :) Hahahahah. So that's how it is done.

if this is the whole power of Haikizoku than >__< nah thx goat-chan but I will do it myself >_< Layfon was not even in "kill intent" and he didnt even used any kei aura (no blue,green,yellow)... he simply used basic childish skill and stopped nian XD that was lame..... even Layfon vs Haia had bigger impact and flashy fight comapred to this one ^^ we cant even call this a fight ^^

I guess this is the "medicode person + haikizoku" and not "non-medicode [HB] + haikizoku" goat could show more power with Layfon or other HB which kei level are enormous so goat can add lots of power ^^

panpo98
2009-06-13, 15:32
zibi88:
The basicness is what made is so amusing to me :) It something I would do. The reason i called it Super Nina vs Layfon was that in previous 2 ep treads people have been trowing out crazy Vs left and right.

The problem to me with fox people wasn't how easy it was to beat them. It was that they don't give up the places they are fighting them seems to give the fox people the edge. Like the HB had to hold back not to destroy their surroundings. It was like they were swapping flies. they get one group and more appears.

zibi88
2009-06-13, 15:37
Well I was wondering what queen told to savaris but after re-hearing she said "Layfon まだ まけた いないわ" which roughty means "Layfon didnt lost yet" so queen kinda says that Layfon never lost a battle ^^ but I wonder in what aspect is she talking..... a warning for Savaris that layfon is not an easy opponet when he goes serious.... or she is supprised that he didnt lost till now...

but well for next ep24 I need spoiler pictures since its way to confuseing.... (maybe subs would be nice too but the preview doesnt tell much >__<) guess I have to wait till tomarrow for some spoiler pictures >__< but by looking at colours Savaris could take haikizoku inside him.... since around the goat there was red aura... guhhh time will show since its not clearly shown I can only speculate >__<

ipernorris
2009-06-13, 16:14
Well I bet Layfon will be able to defeat Savaris + Haikizoku as well, especially if he believes Nina became like Din Din because of Savaris... :D

aroduc
2009-06-13, 16:31
You know... Nina and Savaris aren't even in the preview for the last episode. And Layfon's only in one generic shot.

So... yeah... not really pleased with this one, especially as the penultimate episode.

Bonta Kun
2009-06-13, 19:25
ok even tho its only the raw I'll say this, everything in this ep the all over the shop story, the fight between Fonfon and Nina(altho rather lame in some aspects), the pretty lame in action shots of some HBs, its all completely overshadowed by the awesomeness of the WITCH!:heh:

damn I love her!

black_cat1
2009-06-13, 20:09
WTH with the fight between Layfon and Nina, just took the weird mask, lame OTL.

Next ep will be Fon Fon vs Savaris, they jump too fast.

RanXan
2009-06-13, 20:36
Berserker-Nina vs Layfon-fon = FAIL battle D:

zibi88
2009-06-14, 01:46
You know... Nina and Savaris aren't even in the preview for the last episode. And Layfon's only in one generic shot.

first of all.... only savaris has red kei.... and in the preview we can see red kei auras... Layfon is looking at it.... and even around goat chan is that aura too... so I assume that Savaris that power maniac wanted to take the goat and have a match with Layfon (crush him...)

It will be definitly Layfon vs Savaris becouse in ep23 there is that close up to Layon's 12th HB sword... right after savaris took his own weapon..... its like a match will happen between them....

but I wonder where Layfon is standing... Grendan or Zerenii... since Nina is in Grendan and Leerin in Zerenii.... and well in Zerenii that monster appears....

Other option is that like Leerin said to Gorneo is not asking him to take the sword and give it to Layfon.... but she asked Gorneo to help her go to Layfon.... guardian from monsters when she will travel....... so there is the possibility that Leerin will go to Grendan where Layfon is.... give him his weapon

or Leerin was about to go to Layfon but then the monster appears on Zerenii... without spoiler pictures of next ep... I can only speculate how things will go...

Johnny
2009-06-14, 01:53
I say that be a pretty big letdown. The last 20 some odd episodes we get her daydreaming about Layfon and when she finally get's to, she only see's him once. Well counting the slap twice, but then get's all emo because Layfon wouldn't slip her the tongue. Maybe I'm seeing things to black ni white and this is just groundwork if they have another season planned...

aroduc
2009-06-14, 02:18
first of all.... only savaris has red kei.... and in the preview we can see red kei auras... Layfon is looking at it.... and even around goat chan is that aura too... so I assume that Savaris that power maniac wanted to take the goat and have a match with Layfon (crush him...)

It will be definitly Layfon vs Savaris becouse in ep23 there is that close up to Layon's 12th HB sword... right after savaris took his own weapon..... its like a match will happen between them....

but I wonder where Layfon is standing... Grendan or Zerenii... since Nina is in Grendan and Leerin in Zerenii.... and well in Zerenii that monster appears....

Other option is that like Leerin said to Gorneo is not asking him to take the sword and give it to Layfon.... but she asked Gorneo to help her go to Layfon.... guardian from monsters when she will travel....... so there is the possibility that Leerin will go to Grendan where Layfon is.... give him his weapon

or Leerin was about to go to Layfon but then the monster appears on Zerenii... without spoiler pictures of next ep... I can only speculate how things will go...

*shrug* Or since they showed nothing, there's nothing to be seen. There could be any number of reasons why Savaris and Layfon don't fight, or that it's immediately interrupted by the giant embodiment of evil a couple hundred feet away.

And I really hope Goreno just takes it, because that would be the intelligent thing to do... rather than bringing the girl bringing the weapon. That whole stupid thing has stretched on at least three episodes longer than it has any business doing. I think the only point of it right now is to force Leerin into danger.

zibi88
2009-06-14, 02:33
In the shelter... when Leerin was running out of it and Naruti stopped her... Leerin said she needs to go to Layfon (Naruki asked is Layfon so important for her... )... than Naruki said that this is not Grendan and that they dont have so skilled fighters that could keep her safe.... than Leerin asked where Gorneo is and Naruti took her to him...

I first throught that Leerin asked him to take the sword to Layfon but when I concentrated more on what she is saying it was pointing that she asked him to help her to go to Layfon..... than gorneo sees the mark of psyharden on the box... end

Well it would be obvious that Leerin needs to give Layfon that katana herself.... since like Layfon mentioned in Nina's talk why he is not useing katanas..... Leerin needs to explain that her father gived it to her so she could pass it to layfon... her words would make Layfon feel again safe and happy and so he could use katana's again becouse Delk forgiven him... and Leerin was kinda risking to bring it back to him.... (I kinda hope she would at least kiss him on the lips or hug him ^^)

what would happen if Gorneo would give that weapon to layfon..... here for you I got it from a girl that asked me..... Lafyon looks on the weapon and will say but I cant use it >__<....... kinda he needs Leerins words since Delk is her father and explanation comeing streight from leerin will bigger impact on him :P

Time will show what will happen... the preview doesnt tell much maybe becouse its so intense in action and stuff....

holyman282
2009-06-14, 03:44
In the shelter... when Leerin was running out of it and Naruti stopped her... Leerin said she needs to go to Layfon (Naruki asked is Layfon so important for her... )... than Naruki said that this is not Grendan and that they dont have so skilled fighters that could keep her safe.... than Leerin asked where Gorneo is and Naruti took her to him...

I first throught that Leerin asked him to take the sword to Layfon but when I concentrated more on what she is saying it was pointing that she asked him to help her to go to Layfon..... than gorneo sees the mark of psyharden on the box... end

Well it would be obvious that Leerin needs to give Layfon that katana herself.... since like Layfon mentioned in Nina's talk why he is not useing katanas..... Leerin needs to explain that her father gived it to her so she could pass it to layfon... her words would make Layfon feel again safe and happy and so he could use katana's again becouse Delk forgiven him... and Leerin was kinda risking to bring it back to him.... (I kinda hope she would at least kiss him on the lips or hug him ^^)

what would happen if Gorneo would give that weapon to layfon..... here for you I got it from a girl that asked me..... Lafyon looks on the weapon and will say but I cant use it >__<....... kinda he needs Leerins words since Delk is her father and explanation comeing streight from leerin will bigger impact on him :P

Time will show what will happen... the preview doesnt tell much maybe becouse its so intense in action and stuff....

No if Gorneo gives it to Leyfon he'll definitely accept it, remember their moment in the desserted regios city? LayfonXGorneo end ftw!!

panpo98
2009-06-14, 06:13
Every person that is yelling Vs in every episode tread based on preview, dream or nothing are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Super Nina Vs Layfon : Ep 23 : See page 1
Gorneo Vs Savaris : Ep 22 : Talking
Layfon Vs Lerrin : Ep 22 : Kiss on the cheek, barely

Shall I go on.

Estaron
2009-06-14, 09:49
Erm... how the heck are they going to wrap this all up with just one episode left to go?
It's quite funny how those characters in the OP finally get to speak in the second to last episode.
And yeah Meishen = forgotten.

ThoHell
2009-06-14, 13:41
Dang it! So close, so close.... the student president almost got what he had coming. She had to stop the punch... It was nice seeing Felli stand a firm ground, really nice. Things are getting some what hectic and pace going super fast. I wonder how this will end, at this rate its going to be an incomplete rushed ending. Anyways, I hope Fon-fon bites the big on in the end. Is this wrong that I hope for the main hero to die? Fine, then end it with Fon-fon X Leerin kiss or paring scene!

justinstrife
2009-06-14, 14:07
Erm... how the heck are they going to wrap this all up with just one episode left to go?
It's quite funny how those characters in the OP finally get to speak in the second to last episode.
And yeah Meishen = forgotten.

I agree. This series has been a bit of a mess to be honest, and I don't see how they can wrap it up well.

Reminds me of Macross Frontier's ending. What a hack job that was.

thundrakkon
2009-06-14, 14:35
I'm totally confused right now. Those fox guys getting thrown in the picture is going all over the place. The series is not doing a very good job of explaining the fox guys, where they come from, what they are trying to do, who is guiding them, how they got in the tunnels, or where the filth monsters come from.

Everything is getting thrown together to finish this series by episode 24, and it just does not make sense. Furthermore, the red haired guy where the witch is at... He just randomly appears, fights, and then disappears. There is no background story on him. He just comes, and pawns people, and just seems to know everything.

They were doing an okay job with pacing up until the last few episodes. Now, I'm lost....

Johnny
2009-06-14, 16:11
Seems like their trying to take 24 items into a "10 items or less" checkout lane...

Enternal
2009-06-14, 17:12
With how they are doing things, they really must make a second season.

Slick_rick
2009-06-14, 17:40
It's definitely going to be hard if not impossible for them to pull off a satisfying end with just one more episode left. Maybe they'll do another season but even if they do this season's ending is still in jeopardy of turning out fairly bad. Next episode could end up being a complete and utter train wreck. I'm not too optimistic about where this is leading at all.

Jarppa
2009-06-14, 17:51
That witch girl has such a nice personality. Too bad screentime was again so big for her :)

Sad to see this coming near end, but atleast it seems that we can hope new season somewhere in 2012 when novels have more material!

Freya
2009-06-14, 18:35
Ahh! So next weeks episode really is the end?? They could easily make this a 50 episode season. So many things still unanswered and stuff.

This happened was alright. Mild action, some screentime by the Heavens Blade Receivers, and a whole lot of set up for next week.

ZeroForever
2009-06-14, 19:42
meh eps, everyone else already voiced the same concerns i have after watching it, mainly crappy ending that doesn't resolve anything and leaves alot more stuff open then it really should.

original anime endings need to stop....

holyman282
2009-06-14, 20:33
wouldn't it be awesome if Layfon ends up weilding both the heaven's blade and the psyharden blade at the same time? It's like duel weapons.

Arkard
2009-06-14, 21:42
To be fair, most animes based on ongoing series do have a track record of messy endings. Everything's so confusing though =x One episode isn't enough to explain everything, much less jam in the final epic fight.

Also heh at Layfon chasing after Nina until the last episode! :hyper-^v^:

Blaster
2009-06-14, 22:37
It seems like they're rushing since episode 20. So many things happening at the same time.

It should be quite obvious that Layfon will eventually pwn Savaris. Just how long they decide to make it. 5min? 8min? Or like Goat-Nina vs Layfon.

daimonth
2009-06-14, 23:12
They should have just done the intercity match, included all the missing stuff from ninas disappearance and then for the last episode do begining of vol9 and give it an open end. Then perhaps do some of the side story as dvd specials. Now it looks like its a giant mess ready to explode... actually in many instances I think it already did.

germanturkey
2009-06-14, 23:39
at least we know Frontier is getting a movie... who knows what's going to come out of this series. Savaris wants to fight Layfon (we don't even know if he does. just that he likes to fight and have power) because the first time he fought alongside Layfon, he felt alive.

this ep was just blah blah blah.

zibi88
2009-06-15, 03:19
well next ep. will kinda be about haikizoku, mostly savaris, saya (and maybe leerin which will use sayas powers) and layfon....... maybe leerin will learn that all HB belong to saya so its kinda Layfon belongs to Leerin xD

but its strange no spoiler pictures at official page for now..... and yeah ep24 is the final episode since on official page there was mentioned a picture of voice actors that they are currently doing voice acting for the last episode.....

so nah I doubt they will make another season after this mess :P

black_cat1
2009-06-15, 03:44
so nah I doubt they will make another season after this mess :P
They should remake it and follow the novel

zibi88
2009-06-15, 03:55
They should remake it and follow the novel

well its a good thing to be dreaming ^^ but reality shows that its not possible

blewin
2009-06-15, 04:35
I'm really confused.... What I get so far is that there're two physically different worlds, and the Dream of Ignasis is trying to make it only one world, but Saya is interfering. um, but how does Dixerio fit in? and how come the wolf masked guys can regenerate/revive/multiply numerously?

Looks like the witch HB is on a rampage rather than Zuellni. :D

Doesn't look like much has happened in this episode except with the revelations of more mysteries (very poorly executed in terms of pace). Maybe they'll have an open ending and make an OVA? *fingers crossed*

magnuskn
2009-06-15, 04:56
That HB girl is quite the potty-mouth. :D

I am not sure how much they are deviating from the novels, but Id propose "Lets wait and see" approach to the last episode. Although it certainly looks like that well be left with a ton of unsolved plot threads.

And I guess everybody has catched onto the fact that the romance part is going to stay unsolved. :D

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-15, 07:35
Good episode...I wish it ended with Layfon meeting the rest of the HB fighting that Filth Monster and we got soem sort of Reunion (whther good or bad)...

But I guess a Savaris x Layfon showdown is just as good.

So no second season?

zibi88
2009-06-15, 07:54
Well I jsut readed some words from the voice actors that ended recording ep24... and well even they feel that there might be second season... and if that will happen they will be happy.... so well we have to wait for ending of ep24... maybe from that we will learn about the future

the other thing is that there might be no spoiler pictures for ep24 till the episode is aired :P (hope not)....... but well for me its kinda harder to put all the story material into next season when they changed so many things >__< (Nina should be kinapped along with Leerin by the queen..... there should be match between mayath and zerenii.... ect) lots of things got skipped... putted aside... changed... so what next season could be about if Layfon for example gets his katana and HB >__< maybe fight with other dimension but hmmm I dont know I have mixed feelings about this.... anyway time will show...

well thre is the possibility that I got it wrong and that they were talking about singing to the next sound cd that will be in sale on hmm 18 september... (since one actress mentioned something about singing...)

germanturkey
2009-06-15, 10:12
yeah, the Witch HB has quite the spunky personality. i rather enjoyed that bit.

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-15, 10:30
so what next season could be about if Layfon for example gets his katana and HB >__<

Woah Woah....Could you elaborate on this? Maybe in a PM? Does he get both eventually (in the LN)?

zibi88
2009-06-15, 12:28
Woah Woah....Could you elaborate on this? Maybe in a PM? Does he get both eventually (in the LN)?

It's just speculateing and hopeing for that to happen since.... in ep23 Queen told to Savaris that HB's are not allowed to be defeated.... Savaris said that he is different from layfon.... and here Queen protected layfon by saying that he hasnt lost yet....

after that scene we see Layfon's HB-blade little zooming on it and switching on Layfon who is traveling on bike..... its like the sword will reach Layfon again....

The same time Leerin is comeing to Layfon with Psyharden katana.... so I wouldnt be supprised if he ended up with both weapons at the end XD

the question is can layfon use psyharden abilities with HB-sword (since its golden dite)... or only he will be able to use them with Katana...

here would be nice since if Layfon needed use psyharden skills he would switch to katana... and if he needs to use more power he uses HB sword that can hold whole kei level of his :P anyway it would be awsome to see just like nina wielding 2weapons.... in 1hand HB sword... and in 2nd hand psyharden katana (bad ass to maximum ^^ use both full power and all abilities ^^)

maybe Leerin will give Layfon his katana... he will fight Savaris with it.... he will defeat savaris and queen will give layfon his HB sword back :P time will show...

anyway Leerin giving Layfon katana would make him feel at ease that he had been forgiven of his sisns towards his master Delk.... and if Queen gived him back HB sword would be a sign that she forgiven him too....

with the life experiance that he gained at zerenii he might be better HB now... fight not for few people... but for whole city and see smiles of others with that...

Anwyay I guess this week they wont give us any spoiler pictures of last episode grrrrrrrrr they want to save us the secret till the episode will be aired >__< dont like it dont like it at all.... now whole week will be bugging me XD

But well preview says.... haikizoku and men issue (mostly savaris and haikizoku... since goat had read aura at bottom and only savaris has red kei).... the girl that is sleeeping inside grendan is reffering to Saya (which all 12th HB are her possesions)... the girl with moon in her eye refering to leerin and her power secret..... and mostly the whole zerenii city issue [like fairy evolveing or something]... (maybe nina wont be destroyed thx to zerenii fairy that is sitting inside nina too... like she will protect her when they pull out the haikizoku)

well the ending of ep24 will tell us if another seaon might happen...

ipernorris
2009-06-15, 12:52
zibi88 your idea of Layfon using two swords is interesting, but it will be lame no matter what, in this ending episode: it will be stuffed with all sorts of topics... I think it will be so filled up with various stuff that Layfon vs Savaris will be very short... one minute at most, if they will ever fight, that is. Then they will waste time trying to explain the billions of things from the novel thrown in the anime without the proper explanation. It would have been better if they left un-necessary things out of the anime rather than throwing them in it creating a mess! :mad:

-Sho-
2009-06-15, 16:19
Just watch this episode :

Well , i expected more action with the HB .
Bermalin (the witch) is cool :) I like her character ^^
But it was short !
I expected more too for Nina Goat vs Layfon . Well its Layfon .
Some Blah blah blah after ...
And Savaris came !! I hope for a great fight !!!

Yeah i want a 2nd season ! More HB screentime need !!

Kokoru Asami
2009-06-15, 16:55
I've wandered in these forums for a while with nothing to post because i wanted to see the results of the show. After watching a couple episodes i loved it and more so when i was able to read the translation of the novels. The show itself turned out ok, but it makes me mad when the Novel is so great and the show cant stick to the story ..theirs just so much potential but its shut down. Its not the first time its happened and it wont be the last sadly. However i do hope for a second season, and i hope its true (unlike mushi-uta...which I LOVE!) *Sigh* i hope it at least ends well and i at least have the consolation of the light novels which are AWESOME (thanks blewin!)

Bikerider
2009-06-15, 20:03
Seeing Witchy HB, I'm thinking: Yeah... the HBs seem to be found among the "rougher" people

zibi88
2009-06-16, 01:23
Seeing Witchy HB, I'm thinking: Yeah... the HBs seem to be found among the "rougher" people

after seeing her and savaris you stop to wonder why Layfon developed a dark-evil voice that means going serious :P he was between them when he was 10years old :P so it went on his psychic too in some way ^^ (even the queen is similar........well even canalice was disguised as the queen and she was saying sentences like "he can go and eat shit" XD) so kinda Layfon is the one good hearted there :P

but anyway damn.... sad that they wont give us any spoiler pictures of the last episode >___< grrr.... the preview of ep24 in ep23 was done specialy that way so we wont see much of the story in it..... like they said on official page we will see what will happen only when its aired.... so saturday >__<

shmaster
2009-06-16, 01:36
I'm really confused.... What I get so far is that there're two physically different worlds, and the Dream of Ignasis is trying to make it only one world, but Saya is interfering. um, but how does Dixerio fit in? and how come the wolf masked guys can regenerate/revive/multiply numerously?

I can explain those, if you don't mind spoilers.

What Ignasis want is to detsroy all worlds so all human soul can fall into Zero Domain, for the purpos eof his research. But there is still one world standing, the world that is held together by Saya, the world fo Regios. So Ignasis is doing whateve rhe can to detsroy it. As for Dick..... his is another logn story. Liek Saya and Ailen's story takes three volumes of Legend of Regios to Explain, to fully explain Dick needs three volume of Regios Crusade, and we only have one so far.

But this is the very probloem of Regios, it i snot just a on going series, it is also a series tooo huge. It has mysteries and plot threads scatter all over the place, and there is another side story seiers getting published this month. But thsi is nto the worst, all these mysteries and plot threads does not occur in an orderly fashion, but a lot of time simutenously.

How do I put this, like Record of Lodoss War, depsite the series is huge and related to a lot fo the other works, it was never so confusing, as plot threads are kept separate and thigns progresse din an orderly fashion. Regios is the opposite, so many things are happenign simotenously, but you only get to see a fragment of the truth. Regios Crusade is a huge offender of this case, between the chapter 1 and chapter 2 of Regios Crusade, you must fit in the the chapter 1 of Legend's volume 2, or else be prepared to get confused.

So, what can I say, an anime adeptation of the novel is doomed from the beginning to become incomprehensible.

Though, I admit I am just mad at the fact that the fight between Savaris and Dick is not going to happen.

ThinkTank
2009-06-16, 02:11
Chalk another story that needs a remake.

Tjaard
2009-06-16, 03:55
Surely another good epi, but they skip a bit so i beginning to think that there isn't a sequel of this series.
But well i want see next time how finish it so i hope for a good fight for the end :D

Ultramarinus
2009-06-16, 10:07
I was just able to watch the ep from neighbor's computer, as mine is having a hardware breakdown since last week. :(

It was an alright ep, but feels a bit rushed and suffers from diverging from the original story it seems. That's why stuff feels a bit out of place, like the mask getting just removed, etc. IIRC there was no such mask to start with.

All in all, some stuff happened and it's already discussed upon, so I'll just mention that we were able to see why Nina withheld the goat as a secret. Even the president, -understandably- wants it to get it extracted no matter what. Savaris also made his move. Only her own platoon cares one bit as to what happens to Nina. Even though she wanted to do her best to protect Czellni as both the city and the fairy, the risk of the cost is steep enough to make one at least hesitate. The dialog with Layfon helped to understand that.

Based on the preview, it looks like they'll have Savaris control, or even extract, then control, Haikizoku. That's what I get from both the scene and the sentence about 'the man controlling haikizoku'. If that's so, they'll totally divert from the original story it seems. It may even kill a second season or mess it up so badly that they'll have to progress on a totally different track. :uhoh: It'll really be a shame if it goes like that. :mad:

P.S: The witch literally asked for a smackdown, I hope she'll get it on next season. Oh my nerves.. :p
P.S2: If they really do any harm to Nina, I'll murder the anime staff Krauser II style!!! SATSUGAI SURUZOOO!!!

panpo98
2009-06-16, 13:16
Is it any chance that they might do a little parallel story thing. Like they are doing with the manga?
Wouldn't that give them the chance to repair some of the damage they did to the story?

Ultramarinus:
I wouldn't worry about Nina. She seems to have the writers protecting her.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-16, 13:48
Novel writer? Of course as she's a lead, but the anime staff can be unfathomable at times. I guess they still won't go that far, hopefully.

Freya
2009-06-16, 18:30
Someone said that the animes not based on the novel? Can anyway tell me what the novel is about?

zibi88
2009-06-17, 01:24
Someone said that the animes not based on the novel? Can anyway tell me what the novel is about?

So they said it wrong.... the anime "kinda" followed the novel but few last episode are different from the novel.... anime followed its own way.... well novel allways is more bigger... more information.... which is kinda impossible to put that all in novel form into anime (since novels are kinda like narration form [we hear what characters are thinking in a situation ect] )

Anime has different parts and lacks of some material (like in the gandwelia city... layfon was possesed by goat-chan for a moment and went berserk) but anyway novel is novel while anime is anime... if anime was identical to novel... people would buy anime and not novel XD

cheesie
2009-06-17, 12:45
:heh: *still waving Nina x Layfon flag* If the ending is gonna suck, then it should go down with some Layfon x Nina as consolation prize!

Sinestra
2009-06-17, 15:34
Im not sure about the ending now i have been trying speculate and i just dont know. I have somewhat of a decent amount of hope that it will finish well with no plotholes or loose ends but then again i have been wrong and disappointed before.

Manji Midou
2009-06-17, 16:07
the anime has turn to crap of late....and really next ep is the last one?
and my witch goddess get's so little screen time....bah....

zibi88
2009-06-17, 17:04
the anime has turn to crap of late....and really next ep is the last one?
and my witch goddess get's so little screen time....bah....

yes its the last episode.... voice actors confirmed that.... and becouse its the last episode they wont give us any spoiler pictures of this episode.... whey want to make us supprised..... so we will have to wait till saturday to see it... >_<

ehhh many animes are ending in next week or at least in this month.... kinda sad... since 1ep per week was like a daily rutine.... without it is like lacking something....

justinstrife
2009-06-17, 19:19
:heh: *still waving Nina x Layfon flag* If the ending is gonna suck, then it should go down with some Layfon x Nina as consolation prize!

Dear God. You'd be perfectly happy with a Nina x Layfon ending, even if the last episode sucked?

Even if my favorite characters don't fair well in the story, I at least like a decent ending for crying outloud. Guess the Kool-Aid is strong with some people...

cheesie
2009-06-17, 23:31
Dear God. You'd be perfectly happy with a Nina x Layfon ending, even if the last episode sucked?

Even if my favorite characters don't fair well in the story, I at least like a decent ending for crying outloud. Guess the Kool-Aid is strong with some people...

Now, now JS, that's not what I meant. If it's going to go down, which it looks like it will, then it better go down with some Layfon x Nina at least. :p Just so the ending won't completely be a blasphemy. That's all.

zibi88
2009-06-18, 02:05
I perosonaly hope for LeerinxLayfon becouse she understands what burden layfon si carrying... and well she has to bring the sword katana to layfon so they will have to meet again....

But I suppose there wont be any pairing at the end of the episode.... they will leave it open....

ipernorris
2009-06-18, 02:19
Am I the only one hoping for LayfonXGoat-chan? :(
Nobody thinks about our dear Goat! :mad:

monir
2009-06-18, 02:20
I'm hoping for an orgy. An orgy of destruction and mayhem with Savaris and Layfon in it. At the end of their conflict, hopefully they will hold hands as the walk away side by side toward the crimson sunset.

Other than Naruki who says under her breathe, "I knew it," every other girls have their jaws on the floor.

Natsuki Hyuga
2009-06-18, 02:24
I'm hoping for an orgy. An orgy of destruction and mayhem with Savaris and Layfon in it. At the end of their conflict, hopefully they will hold hands as the walk away side by side toward the crimson sunset.

Other than Naruki who says under her breathe, "I knew it," every other girls have their jaws on the floor.

... Monir, did you read my fangirl mind perfectly? I was hoping for that ending you described perfectly! :o

/waves a sole SavarisxLayfon homicidal yaoi ; ;

monir
2009-06-18, 02:37
Homicidal yaoi? Very intriguing. I like it!

justinstrife
2009-06-18, 09:47
I'm rooting for Layfon x Queen now. :D

Von Himmel
2009-06-18, 10:57
Now this is a chaos ;)

ipernorris
2009-06-18, 11:13
The last episode can be summed by this pic:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8890/bigmacsculpture.jpg
:rolleyes:

zibi88
2009-06-18, 11:54
fianly some spoiler pictures leaked out !! I'm talking about ep24 !

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1374/zzxx.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/zzxx.jpg/)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/79/zzzl.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/zzzl.jpg/)

So I was right Savaris takes the Haikizoku and goes berserk... destoying the Zerenii city.... Layfon si fighting him back... while others HB have problems to defeat that monsters.... Zerenii is in panic....

And here is the sad part................. Leerin is shot by a light kei beam streight in the chest.... and she dies in Layfon's arms...........!!!!!

I translated the end of the little under picture sentences.... and at the end I think Leerin revives with some magic power [dont know if its her... but well only she died here...]

there is a line that mentions new sersies starting.....

ipernorris
2009-06-18, 11:56
zibi for new series do you mean new season of regios or a whole different one?

zibi88
2009-06-18, 11:59
zibi for new series do you mean new season of regios or a whole different one?

they say a new series so mostly next season........ since it ends with a girl standing up with magic pwoers (I assume it might be leerin... I hope for it since its unfair for her to die while others are safe...)

they say new information will be said someday in future.... so no clue about it.... till I see the episode myself.... (Poor Leerin !! anyway that is a big leerin flag... I wodner how Layfon reacts to this....)

ipernorris
2009-06-18, 14:00
Thanks for sharing the info zibi! :)
Anyway I hope Layfon will become ANGRY! :D
Am I asking too much if I would like to see Layfon going all out and not with his usual half assed attitude?

Ultramarinus
2009-06-18, 14:25
WHERE THE HELL IS NINA?!! DO THEY WANT ME TO MURDER THEM KRAUSER II STYLE AFTER ALL?!! RESTORATION!!! :frustrated:
I sure do hope they'll not make the last mistake of their lives! :nono:

Fevvers
2009-06-18, 19:13
@Ultramarinus: Now, now, they're just probably saving the best for last. :D

As for the episode itself, well, that Layfon/Nina match was the most anti-climatic scene I've ever seen. Seriously. I like the whole mask thing (someone here compared it to Princess Mononoke) but the temporary resolution it got made me all "bwuh?"

Also, who was the preview alluding to about the sleeping princess? Saya? Nina crossed my mind but calling Nina a sleeping princess (even if it is a metaphor) feels kinda weird.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-18, 19:33
Yeah, that must be it! Just like you said!

I had made that Mononoke reference, it's got all the tribal jive. :uhoh:

I think the sleeping princess was Saya, some talk was going on about it somewhere around. Maybe in spoilers thread.

justinstrife
2009-06-18, 20:28
WHERE THE HELL IS NINA?!! DO THEY WANT ME TO MURDER THEM KRAUSER II STYLE AFTER ALL?!! RESTORATION!!! :frustrated:
I sure do hope they'll not make the last mistake of their lives! :nono:

The whole story is tanking faster than a car in the middle of a lake, and all you care about is there's no Nina in the screen shots?

Fanboys...

Ultramarinus
2009-06-18, 20:51
Ah well, it seems like you're taking things too literal. I guess people can't even vent a little bit in spoiler tags these days without getting bashed. You aren't the first person that sarcasm eludes but at least try to be more considerate before you make such comments.

Non-canon story is as good as never happened for what it counts, I'll be content if they can follow up without the mess up they caused. In the meanwhile, yeah, I'm more concerned about certain characters that are in risk of being demolished just for the sake of a conclusion as they cannot be healed as easily. They're all on the same boat in any case.

By the way, it's not about screen-time but the lack of it kind of suggests that something happened to the character, which caused my comic overblown outburst. :heh:

Johnny
2009-06-18, 21:31
I'm concerned that Mei got 186 and hasn't been seen since episode way back when...

Can't comment on spoiler pics for ep 24, because I'm clinging to my life raft that we'll be saved...

hope assasin
2009-06-19, 05:02
spoiler pics out))))
http://blog2.surpara.com/regios/archive/2009/06/56212.html

http://www.presepe.jp/m44/show/id/oNqASGL7OUM%3D

hope assasin
2009-06-19, 05:11
spoiler pics out))))
http://blog2.surpara.com/regios/archive/2009/06/56212.html

http://www.presepe.jp/m44/show/id/oNqASGL7OUM%3D

zibi88
2009-06-19, 05:15
spoiler pics out))))
http://blog2.surpara.com/regios/archive/2009/06/56212.html

http://www.presepe.jp/m44/show/id/oNqASGL7OUM%3D

yes I posted them yesterday >__< 1page back....

hope assasin
2009-06-19, 05:16
:heh:sorry :heh:

blewin
2009-06-19, 05:21
spoiler pics..... looks like we'll see all the HB taking on the filth monster + Layfon vs Savaris too.
Let's hope the ending won't be too much of a disappointment.

ipernorris
2009-06-19, 05:25
spoiler pics..... looks like we'll see all the HB taking on the filth monster + Layfon vs Savaris too.
Let's hope the ending won't be too much of a disappointment.
Hello blewin-sama!
Are you already expecting a disappointment from the ending? Well then I'm discouraged if even you, the myth who is translating the novels, say that the ending will be a bad one! :(

blewin
2009-06-19, 05:40
Hello blewin-sama!
Are you already expecting a disappointment from the ending? Well then I'm discouraged if even you, the myth who is translating the novels, say that the ending will be a bad one! :(

putting the novels aside, the execution of everything in the last few episodes hovers around (or below) average. The main problem is not enough buildup, and new characters and revelations are tossed into only 2-3 episodes, then BOOM, you get your last episode... whatever it's gonna be. No matter how I read it, it spells disaster unless they're planning for a follow up season or OVA.

zibi88
2009-06-19, 05:43
The thing is that Leerin will bring that sword to Layfon on battlefield.... and she will get shot by a light beam or something.... both Layfon and Leerin will give tears and hug each other... and Leerin will die in Layfon's arms....................

That what it says under few pictures with leerin..... anwyay last sentences at the bottom mentioned something about the girl stoods up and so new story will begin....

I think that Leerin will again come back to life at the end... mostly Saya wont allow her to die and will bring her back to life..... but I wonder if she will be the usual leerin that we all know or will she change (or leerin personality disappers and saya or some other person jumps in) and become kinda different in personality...[maybe little more evil or more wise about what is going on in this world) personaly I hope she wont change and be the usual girl

Well there is allways the possibuiliy that authors are teasing us with Leerin death :P we will learn about this tomarrow...... but well it will be a huge blow on Layfon and a huge Leerin flag (since he notices that leerin is very important to him.... more than Nina,Felli or Meishen)

they wont show us about what girl the spoiler says......we will have to wait and see

anwyay on 1picture with leerin on her knees is bugging me... I mean there is something on Leerins back... like a piece of filth monster... or simply Leerin got pirced by that piece when the monster entered the zerenii city and so she wants to spend her last moments with Layfon.... maybe the monster piece will make her more evil (possesed by filth monster or something)

damn I can only speculate but Leerin death is BAD !! hope she will be allright at the end so she can support Layfon more in next series/season...

golthin
2009-06-19, 05:49
the anime has turn to crap of late....and really next ep is the last one?
and my witch goddess get's so little screen time....bah....

Yeah, I find Bermalin(the witch) hot too, I don't know why I have a thing about women like her. She reminds me of another of my favorite hotblooded girls, Revy from black lagoon.

edit

The thing is that Leerin will bring that sword to Layfon on battlefield.... and she will get shot by a light beam or something.... both Layfon and Leerin will give tears and hug each other... and Leerin will die in Layfon's arms....................

That what it says under few pictures with leerin..... anwyay last sentences at the bottom mentioned something about the girl stoods up and so new story will begin....

I think that Leerin will again come back to life at the end... mostly Saya wont allow her to die and will bring her back to life..... but I wonder if she will be the usual leerin that we all know or will she change (or leerin personality disappers and saya or some other person jumps in) and become kinda different in personality...[maybe little more evil or more wise about what is going on in this world) personaly I hope she wont change and be the usual girl

Well there is allways the possibuiliy that authors are teasing us with Leerin death :P we will learn about this tomarrow...... but well it will be a huge blow on Layfon and a huge Leerin flag (since he notices that leerin is very important to him.... more than Nina,Felli or Meishen)

they wont show us about what girl the spoiler says......we will have to wait and see

anwyay on 1picture with leerin on her knees is bugging me... I mean there is something on Leerins back... like a piece of filth monster... or simply Leerin got pirced by that piece when the monster entered the zerenii city and so she wants to spend her last moments with Layfon.... maybe the monster piece will make her more evil (possesed by filth monster or something)

damn I can only speculate but Leerin death is BAD !! hope she will be allright at the end so she can support Layfon more in next series/season...

Can you post the link where it say that Leerin dies or the text in japanese?
I have checked ALL the official sites and there is nothing about she dying. Actually that picture where Leerin is crying is when she give him the Katana and she sheds tear of Joy. "涙を流し" and they hug "抱きしめ合う二人"

Natsuki Hyuga
2009-06-19, 07:02
Can you post the link where it say that Leerin dies or the text in japanese?
I have checked ALL the official sites and there is nothing about she dying. Actually that picture where Leerin is crying is when she give him the Katana and she sheds tear of Joy. "涙を流し" and they hug "抱きしめ合う二人"

一筋の炎がリーリンの胸を貫き、リーリンはレイフォンの腕の中で息を引き取る。
そしてツェルニは崩壊の時を迎える。 <- Unnecessary to read for Leerin part since it says

Zuellni city falls down/fell apart anyway.

http://www.animecenter.jp/jp/200906/19000545.php

/goes back to do other things before getting shot at point blank range :uhoh: If anyone want to give a full translation, be my guest :P I'm much more interested in seeing my homicidal last fight anyway at this point~

EDIT: I LOLED at this part though: しかし少女は立ち向かった!我らの希望!「魔法少女マジカルふぇりたん」の誕生だ! Mahou Shoujo Magical Felli-tan is born? *fell over her chair* ROFL! Anyway, if preview tell us in honesty and if the joke part is actually true, then Felli plays the major role here. As a mahou shoujo. :D

EDIT 2: disregard this. Read my other post for confirmation :heh:

Von Himmel
2009-06-19, 09:05
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That. . was some pretty intresting text you have there, Natsuki-san ;(

<--- hoping that this anime original ending wouldn't screw up future plot in the next season :(

Natsuki Hyuga
2009-06-19, 09:13
...!!!!

...

I know it, the strange feeling I get from watching those captions. Keh. Good thing I checked it back.

Clarification: The link I just posted have INTENTIONALLY MADE UP CAPTIONS/COMMENTS. I didn't realize the little Red Truth of Umineko in the last, on the bottom paragraph:

※先行スチルのキャプション内容に大きく間違いが有りますが、ご了承ください。

TFA is evil. EVIL. :heh: In fact they actually just mess up the order of the shots... And create the story in their own way. That... スチル/preview is honestly for joker purpose LOL.

(This doesn't mean they don't have the info and just made up the preview though. It's a joker easter egg from the official site, methinks :heh:)

In other words, don't take animecenter's preview this time in serious way :p

Don't throw rotten eggs on me! D': I was concentrating to do something else at that moment!

ipernorris
2009-06-19, 10:29
I hope the spoilers are fake because Leerin dying and Zuellni falling apart would be a very crappy ending... unless they make a cliffhanger for another season.

golthin
2009-06-19, 10:40
...!!!!

...

I know it, the strange feeling I get from watching those captions. Keh. Good thing I checked it back.

Clarification: The link I just posted have INTENTIONALLY MADE UP CAPTIONS/COMMENTS. I didn't realize the little Red Truth of Umineko in the last, on the bottom paragraph:

※先行スチルのキャプション内容に大きく間違いが有りますが、ご了承ください。

TFA is evil. EVIL. :heh: In fact they actually just mess up the order of the shots... And create the story in their own way. That... スチル/preview is honestly for joker purpose LOL.

(This doesn't mean they don't have the info and just made up the preview though. It's a joker easter egg from the official site, methinks :heh:)

In other words, don't take animecenter's preview this time in serious way :p

Don't throw rotten eggs on me! D': I was concentrating to do something else at that moment!

good show lol. I should have known something was up when the images kind of had a different order than other places.

Von Himmel
2009-06-19, 12:24
@natsuki : Comment on VM :< xD;;

Just watched episode 23 just now. Can't believe that they shortened the Nina vs Layfon battle and make it for just about 5-6 minutes :(

And things are getting more and more confusing towards the ending ;p

ipernorris
2009-06-19, 12:27
@natsuki : Comment on VM :< xD;;

Just watched episode 23 just now. Can't believe that they shortened the Nina vs Layfon battle and make it for just about 5-6 minutes :(

And things are getting more and more confusing towards the ending ;p
5-6 minutes? What anime did you watch dude? The "fight" lasted 2 minutes at most... :rolleyes:

Von Himmel
2009-06-19, 23:09
:(
You don't need to be so precise about it ^^; And I kinda exaggerating it a little
but yeah, it was too short ;(

ipernorris
2009-06-19, 23:55
:(
You don't need to be so precise about it ^^; And I kinda exaggerating it a little
but yeah, it was too short ;(
Ah ok, I thought you meant it literally. I'm sorry! :)