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monir
2009-06-20, 06:59
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Von Himmel
2009-06-20, 08:17
*Patiently waiting for the last episode :)
Wonder how 2ch will respond to this ;(

nina-antalk
2009-06-20, 08:41
Can't wait to see this episode!
I hope that the ending will be good.

babydemongirl
2009-06-20, 09:37
Yeah i cant wait either but i dont want regios to end :(

zibi88
2009-06-20, 10:28
dont worry there was a note that new series will start in future (maybe season 2...) but for that we will have to wait and see since no information are beign released for now.....

Renegade334
2009-06-20, 10:31
Already the end, huh...I see. I'm so outta it nowadays...

Anyway, I'm once again in early as I don't have much free time to come back later and do my..."appointed" job. So here's the joint Asura Cryin'/Chrome-Shelled Regios thread before you start wondering where in the nine hells I am...and reach for the pitchforks.


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EDIT: weeell...since there apparently are already a few raws making the rounds, I guess that's it. Haven't come across them yet, but never mind that. The link's out and so am I - for the last time of this season (or so I understand). Peace, ya'll.

nina-antalk
2009-06-20, 10:36
dont worry there was a note that new series will start in future (maybe season 2...) but for that we will have to wait and see since no information are beign released for now.....

Hopefully they mean a second season and not another series.

ipernorris
2009-06-20, 10:53
Well the announcement was made on the series official website, so I guess it should be season 2. Otherwise it would make little to no sense...

Ultramarinus
2009-06-20, 10:54
Who knows, maybe a spin-off like FMP: Fumoffu!? (mind you, it could be great as the potential is there :heh: ) I doubt that a second season before the novels reach to something like 20 volumes would be decent, they'd have to either do a lot of fillers, do 12 eps or totally change the storyline. Better to wait a couple of years before we get another 24 eps.

ipernorris
2009-06-20, 11:05
Who knows, maybe a spin-off like FMP: Fumoffu!? (mind you, it could be great as the potential is there :heh: ) I doubt that a second season before the novels reach to something like 20 volumes would be decent, they'd have to either do a lot of fillers, do 12 eps or totally change the storyline. Better to wait a couple of years before we get another 24 eps.
If you go take a look at the novel thread you would realize that the material for another 24 episodes season run is already there... :D

Ultramarinus
2009-06-20, 11:09
I'm aware of that but they already fast forwarded to certain point in the story, it's not like they could go back to show untold stuff without messing up chronology. As long as they don't pump in non-canon stuff, I'm fine with it.

panpo98
2009-06-20, 11:14
If you go take a look at the novel thread you would realize that the material for another 24 episodes season run is already there... :D
Do you mean the "Chrome Shelled Regios Light Novel Discussion thread"?
I thought it would be more than 4 pages.

Estaron
2009-06-20, 11:20
Before I begin TL... What the f@ck did I just watch?
Erm... OTZ
gensaku kaihen... ahahahahahaha

ipernorris
2009-06-20, 11:21
Do you mean the "Chrome Shelled Regios Light Novel Discussion thread"?
I thought it would be more than 4 pages.
Most of it hasn't been translated... only volume 1 has been translated, courtesy of Blewin-sama!

Ah btw...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9656/1245514435272.jpg



http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8404/1245514443686.jpg

TrueKnight
2009-06-20, 11:22
HOLY SHITS!!



http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1245514818544.jpg
http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1245514820995.jpg



What the fuck! LOL Epic!

ipernorris
2009-06-20, 11:23
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4185/1245514818544.jpg

TrueKnight
2009-06-20, 11:25
From the pics looks like a total cliffhanger ending. Oh God please give us a 2nd season... or not. >_>

Gotta wait for raw I guess.

zibi88
2009-06-20, 11:27
the 12th HB sword went to Layfon on its own and protected him.... I guess queen was supprised about thuis...... and than Layfon fused together Psyharden katana with 12th sword XD and it becomed like this....... kinda like Clouds from FF7 :P

I wonder why Leerin collapsed... and will layfon return to Grendan with that 12th HB sword or will stay on Zerenii for the time beign...

Estaron
2009-06-20, 11:27
Oh great 'It's just the beginning'

TrueKnight
2009-06-20, 11:29
Oh great 'It's just the beginning'

Second season here we come? >_>

Ultramarinus
2009-06-20, 11:52
Oh great 'It's just the beginning'
Hahah! Just like I expected!

TATAKAINI KORE KARADA! (or nantoka :p )

But yeah, it certainly is the case here with CSR as the novels have just begun revealing the important stuff.
Swordboard? Aw jeez..

And what happens to Nina there, she remained with Dixerio in that dimension? Are others aware of that? They seem to be not bothered about it. Everyone else looks alive and well in any case.

and618and
2009-06-20, 11:54
What he did with thw swords,is it part of the novel or something new?

ipernorris
2009-06-20, 12:00
What he did with thw swords,is it part of the novel or something new?

Layfon had a sudden wish to use it... that's understandable since he's always burden with the most difficult tasks! :heh:

TrueKnight
2009-06-20, 12:28
Obligatory pic spams. The final saga.



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Really gonna miss doing this....... >_<;

Von Himmel
2009-06-20, 12:31
The kick. . Again ! xD;
It's been so long, huh ? :(

Wow, the skate board looks cool. Kinda like those things in Eureka, but with human on board ~

Mei19
2009-06-20, 12:33
Uh oh a Felli ending XD

ThoHell
2009-06-20, 13:26
We finally get a new toy and some development (Fon-fon finally became super awesome), but we're back to where we started. AHHHHHHH, I didn't like the ending! We need a movie or OVA or something to better wrap all this up... no?

Oh, what was reviewed about the queen and Leerin, I think is something a lot of us expected. There sooooo much left up in the air...

TrueKnight
2009-06-20, 14:14
Finally watched the raw at crappy quality. Savaris as expected managed to force the goat out of Nina, albeit not extracted but rather through threat, and finally subdued and conquer it 100% at his own will and becomes super hax. >_>

His fights with Layfon are lame imo but entertaining....

Layfon himself is far much impressive especially at the final battle. Lolz fucking awesome, surfer guy vs boss ftw lol. That scene is just fucking awesome and Layfon's over 9000 for sure. Fon-fon + super-dite = uber god-like hax.

Nina's safe and sound, Mei's alive and well still visiting Layfon with his Layfon plushies, Felli is jealous as usual for Layfon x Leerin, and Leerin's back in Grendan but keep contacting Layfon. Open ended romance indeed.... >_>

zibi88
2009-06-20, 14:24
hahaha Savaris has been blown away by his own attack XD I mean he attacked Layfon with full power..... saya wanted to protect him and sended layfon's HB sword which blocked the attack and layfon kinda stopped the power absorbed on tip of his sword and reflected on savaris who was all "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" wasnt able to blcok or even shit his pants and was blown away no idea if he died or was sended to other dimmension (but at the end of episode leerin is sleeping and we see saya takeing up from the ground the haikizoku mask with lots of ash/dust around [maybe that ash is from savaris xd]

Well when Layfon hugged Leerin tightly and thanked her.... he activated katana... and that was for the legendary katana XDXD I mean we are not seeing long that katana.... becouse leerin looks on it and we see that saya is planning to do something than poof !! from grendan saya sends a huge power and the HB sword alone is going to layfons hands where both of the weapons combine into 1

well I guess now the HB changed from sword type to katana like type which layfon can show all his skills in future... (dont know if he gived back that sword when grendan was moveing away and layfon stayed at zerenii for the time beign.... or was he allowed to keep that sword with him [might be sayas wish to let him hold it])

hmmm at the end of ep when leerin is sleeping and queen and savaris are inside the room.... queen says that she is kinda her daughter or rather she would have been... if the man that she was supposed to marry run away and married with other woman (from which leerin was born with sayas power...)

heh Layfon appeared and showed his skills (sword-boarding XD) slashed the monster that was flying in the air.... then kei-ra cannon killed it for good (max power I guess)...... rest of HB's got kinda jelpus and sayd that they cant lose to layfons power and all together kill other monster ^^

anwyay saya showed some of her power and that this world belongs to her ^^ (she summoned durrign the fight pillars like regiose's have and placed under a shield so people can breath inside it.... (very large shield !!!) nina had almost no screen time here.... she was all the time lieing on the ground and she didnt ended up like Din...


Heh Felli was kinda funyn at the end.... since she said to layfon that he would like to go with leerin.... layfon huh ?.... she repeats the same and than he blushes XD offcourse felli kicks him into leg :P (I guess Layfon loves Leerin.... but he stayed at zerenii for now.... maybe he wants to end his school life and than maybe return to grendan.... since city now needs him [its quite destroyed] )

but well Saya and Leerin have hopes in Layfon ^^ even queen was supprised of what saya was doing...

hard to say at this point about next season... there might be but not fast >__>

panpo98
2009-06-20, 14:25
At least that other Casanova on platoon 17 got 2 girls sleeping in his arms.

Ichiban Hayai
2009-06-20, 16:12
Saya sending the Heavens Blade was a ridiculous plot device as was the merging of the 2 swords.
The final form of the filth monster was also unimpresive and boring.
Finally sword-surf was beyond lame!

Other than that it was a good last episode, almost all the cast had some airtime and it concluded the season in opened ended but still satisfing way.

Manji Midou
2009-06-20, 16:55
saw the raw so....
it was a leerin ending
so much for fellis:heehee::heehee:

black_cat1
2009-06-20, 20:21
Lerrins is Queen's daughter :/

Heaven Blade combined with Pysharden katana = lame.

Savaris vs Fon Fon = cliché

10 HB defeated the FM = Power Ranger.

GhOsTeDgE
2009-06-20, 20:23
LOL at the "epic" battles.

Through the very end this anime had no freaking idea what it was and what it wanted to be.
I'm a shounen anime, no I'm school anime, no I'm harem, no I'm comedy, no I'm moe. no I'm action, no I'm old B&W, no I'm romance, no I'm mystery, no I'm action again, no I'm tentacle, no I'm power rangers lol.

Bonta Kun
2009-06-20, 20:48
lol well the HB Katana was pretty cool looking just after it came about and before the he decides to surf on it:heh: seemed rather normal sized then but as he takes to the skies it grows bigger which all in all that part was lame. Surfing a sword is just lame

Fonfon again shows use some more "WTF PWNZORING!!!"
from the very begining we haven't even seen half of what he's capable of.

well guess it looks like there will be a 2nd season, has to be more to the point.

lol @ Fonfon doll:p

Ultramarinus
2009-06-20, 20:59
Well, I just watched the raw and can say that it was nice as a final. (though I gotta say the swordboard ticked me off, a kei super-jump would be way better) They may be able to revert it to back to its original course but that would need some effort to pull it off correctly as this is nothing like what's told in vol 13 if we're to heed to people who read it. I at least didn't lose all of my hope.

It was funny how Savaris one-shot himself, he got what was coming for him. Serves him right for trying to kill Nina. :heh: HB's final gang up on the monster is kinda understandable as I think their combat patterns are mostly not told about except a couple of them. So I wasn't that bothered about it.

Ultimately everyone's doing what they were doing and there's a mostly clean sheet to progress from, even if a bit too clean so they'll need to have Saya deliver the mask manually or something.

I hope that there'll be a follow-up season which won't divert from the novels, it should be getting more exciting after this point.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA
2009-06-20, 22:18
I don't get why some of you said it is a leerin or felli ending. I watched it and to me it is an open ended romance

tsunade666
2009-06-20, 22:53
theirs no particular ending though its obvious who it will end with.
But the last scene with felli is awesome and I like it that nina's been forgotten
As for the HB Katana...........wth did he skateboard it. ITS like cool and the same time LAME.
Well for a final episode I think its all been cramped up onto one episode.
Disappointed on it.

Well hoping their will be a second season but the same time not hoping its just layfon is
uber level compare to the students. If their will be a second season hoping their will
be strong enemy that will be a challenge. Its like a one sided fight.
WELL NOTHING BEATS A HUMAN WARHEAD.

satomianzaki
2009-06-20, 23:13
i dont think nina is forgotten after all...though i admit she had less screen time in this episode and cannot fight for Zuellini...

i lol at her scream when the FM has been defeated by Layfon...what's that supposed to mean? and in the end, she and Layfon can still be together in the machineries room...with Zuellini of course, just like a family...hehe...i'm exaggerating...

but its nice how the anime ended...so many things unresolved, which will make us want and anticipate for another season...

till the end, im still for Nina...not that anyone will care...i just wanted to say it...hehehe... :D

Master Assassin
2009-06-21, 00:48
saw the raw so....
it was a leerin ending
so much for fellis:heehee::heehee:

You surely have a lot of things to say, don't you? C'mon, share it.

Zwei
2009-06-21, 00:58
What happened to Nina and who is Leerin's mother/father? It's not the queen since the man she was suppose to marry ran away...and how did they forget about Nina and where did she go? Damn...can't wait for the subs.

ipernorris
2009-06-21, 01:20
Nobody noticed that

Layfon's deployed a defensive barrier during his fight against one of the two monsters:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8593/vlcsnap30650.png
It seems to be quite effective... :heh:

boss
2009-06-21, 01:36
I almost spit my pepsi on the screen during the surfing part. Since the HB took on a more ideal shape, i was hoping for a fancy Psyharden skill finish.

Mei19
2009-06-21, 02:07
Everyone is voting 10, someone has to combo break.

How can they do that to Savaris?? Blasted off like Team Rocket at a speed of light? It hurts:( deep inside to see Savaris get thrown to the sky like that in expense of making Mary Sue captain's little puppy Layfon look cool.:frustrated: It pained me to see a character as godly sadistic as Savaris reduced to that. What the hell happened to him afterwards?

What the hell is up with Layfon's surfboard? Psyharden + 12th Heaven Blade = SURFBOARD. WTF? I've seen classier combination from Aladdin and his magic carpet.

What is the meaning of Nina's big face popping out for a split second when Layfon slashed the final enemy? What is the purpose of that?? It would've been ideal for Nina to do something not worthless instead of lie around as if she had a spinal cord injury and had to get logrolled back to Zuellni. And the haikizoku...! Blah waste of space who cares about that goat. Hmm...perhaps I should've voted for 2/10 for the bonus Dixerio/Nina interaction here and the story all in all wasn't bad, as expected ending for 24 episode series. Ya can't expect for them to cover everything...BUT MY BURNING HATRED at the thought of Savaris being humiliated exceeds all!

1/10 painful. I'm not simmering yet.:frustrated:

hope assasin
2009-06-21, 02:21
completely agree with you Mei:frustrated:

Lame eding:(

ipernorris
2009-06-21, 02:30
I think the skateboard thing is weird, but not lame: I mean Layfon had to find a way to fly in order to reach and attack the flying monster which was destroying Zuellni. I wouldn't make that much of an issue about it, even because we've already seen Layfon WITHOUT BLADES being able to make very long and high jumps. Now with the psyharden + heaven blade he can fly on it using kei: I don't see a big issue or plot hole here.
What I'm really bothered about is how Layfon dealt with Savaris: I mean he OWNED him in seconds with only his heaven blade... and let's not forget Savaris was using Haikizoku's power as well. What would have happened if Layfon already fused the hb with the psyharden katana? :heh:

zibi88
2009-06-21, 03:01
Well the thing is that saya was the one that send that blade to Layfon in order to protect him...and punish savaris and goat-chan for what he was doing...... since goat-chan is a part of saya (since the whole regios world is her's) than she can decide who she wants o protect and who not (apperantly Leerin and Layfon are her choice... and she has hope in them)

That kinda confirms what Queen said... she was suppirseing in each moment on what was going on and what saya is doing... at the end she kinda understood the answer

and the flying matter.... what is so suppriseing there.... I mean we saw layfon and haia fight they were flying only useing that kei auras.... HB done that too... so no supprise there that Layfon was able to fly useing his sword for it...

some people quite dont get it what is the reason for Nina's few second moments............. the answer is she fianly saw that Layfon stopped backing off his power.... and that he finaly was able to use his full skills without holding back becouse of what he did in the past (like fianly recognizing his strenght and will to fight).......Delk forgiven him for what he did (Leerin brought that sword to him and kinda won layfons heart there... only layfon is hugging,kissing saying wamr words to leerin from all girls XD and at the end he blushed in shock when felli mentioned about that romance scene between him and leerin back there ^^)..... and queen rather forgiven layfon too (i doubt she was really angry at him from the beggining but she had to expell him becouse it could couse a ruckuss)... and saya the ruller of this whole world putted her hope in him too... so now layfon can be himself without all those burdens on his back ^^

the question for me is.... did layfon gived his new sword back to the queen...since he is in zerenii and sword should not leave grendan..... or he was allowed to keep that sword since saya left if for him.... (with it he can protect zerenii for the time beign of him beign there)


What I'm kinda disappointed is that we didnt saw queen's power >_> we could see what gap is between her and HB's ^^

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 05:59
What happened to Nina and who is Leerin's mother/father? It's not the queen since the man she was suppose to marry ran away...and how did they forget about Nina and where did she go? Damn...can't wait for the subs.
Leerin's mother is the queen, she says herself so to Lintence. (I think others confirmed on earlier pages) It didn't come across as a surprise since we had watched about the DNA sampling before.

Apparently Gorneo brought Nina back to Czellni and she recovered, at the end we saw the fairy carrying sandwiches to her and Layfon while they have a break from their part-time cleaning job in fairy's vault. And yeah, after spending the last two eps trying to save her, it looked weird to relax right away after owning the monster. Well, at least she's all safe and sound and they're back to their business.
I think the skateboard thing is weird, but not lame: I mean Layfon had to find a way to fly in order to reach and attack the flying monster which was destroying Zuellni. I wouldn't make that much of an issue about it, even because we've already seen Layfon WITHOUT BLADES being able to make very long and high jumps. Now with the psyharden + heaven blade he can fly on it using kei: I don't see a big issue or plot hole here.
What I'm really bothered about is how Layfon dealt with Savaris: I mean he OWNED him in seconds with only his heaven blade... and let's not forget Savaris was using Haikizoku's power as well. What would have happened if Layfon already fused the hb with the psyharden katana? :heh:
As I proposed earlier, he should've just jumped with the infusion of Kei from Saya. It would make sense because we saw what could happen with even less kei. Surfing a sword reminded me of Legolas from the Two Towers movie but like 100x more lame, felt like one of TTGL's "we'll just increase the power np" moments. :p

zibi88
2009-06-21, 06:07
Leerin's mother is the queen, she says herself so to Lintence. (I think others confirmed on earlier pages) It didn't come across as a surprise since we had watched about the DNA sampling before.


queen is not leerins mother..... I think what queen sayd to lintence is that she would have been her mother if the men that was supposed to marry her (the queen) didnt runed away to other woman before they wed... and that men had a daughter with that woman which is leerin....

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 06:57
What's the issue with that DNA sample that we learned of 10 eps ago then? Sorry if it's my mistake but it looked like they were blood-related.

azarhal
2009-06-21, 07:24
What's the issue with that DNA sample that we learned of 10 eps ago then? Sorry if it's my mistake but it looked like they were blood-related.


The person the queen was supposed to marry is related to her.

There is 3 royal family branches in Grendan and they intermarry every 3 generations.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 07:28
That makes sense then, thanks.

TrueKnight
2009-06-21, 09:21
Dudes, subs finally out by Ayako, the final episode.

Last but not least,


I would like to express my gratitude to Ayako for bringing us CSR right from the start to finish. In my CSR folder there was never a CSR sub without Ayako name tag on it. It’s been truly a wonderful experience for me in anticipating and watching their subs.

Hopefully should there’s a second season or an OVA, a CSR sub with an Ayako name tag will be there once again. Thank you again Ayako for bringing Chrome Shelled Regios. Your subs had made me a CSR fans and yours as well.

magnuskn
2009-06-21, 10:43
Well, Leerin and Felli are the two main characters still in the running for Fon-Fons heart. :D

I guess it´ll depend on if we get a second season. Which seems not that bad a chance, given that the negative grousing that the end would be a "mess" seems to have disappeared.

darry
2009-06-21, 11:49
i know nothing about CSR only saw the Anime... but for me it ends so open it realy looks like theres a Second Season coming ?

Zwei
2009-06-21, 11:55
queen is not leerins mother..... I think what queen sayd to lintence is that she would have been her mother if the men that was supposed to marry her (the queen) didnt runed away to other woman before they wed... and that men had a daughter with that woman which is leerin....

Thanks, Ultramarinus gave me a scare until I scrolled down and noticed he didn't know what he was talking about. I knew that the Queen wasn't Leerin's mother but I wasn't 100% sure.

zibi88
2009-06-21, 11:55
guhhh sad that Layfon had to give back his sword back.... so not only he lost HB but psyharden katana in one go >__> (since they melted together and made katana HB)

Well there might be another season but I wouldnt be so sure if it will appear so fast... anyway It would be kinda hard to pull things all together now.... Leerin is again in Grendan... and so she wont spend more time with Layfon,Meishen,Nina at zerenii..... there was no inter city match.... queen didnt had to take Leerin back to grendan while layfon throught she kidnapped her.....

So seriouly it would be even more mess in my eyes... (not mention that nina lost the haikizoku which in novel like I saw people talking had been taken by the queen too along with leerin...)

Hmm It's hard to say how the second season would contain.... I guess Saya wanted to test if Layfon will take the HB path again.....but anyway its WAY to hard to imagine how they can play it out now.... Layfon in Zerenii and didnt even throught of going back to Grendan to be a full HB now..... (anywya I wonder if the queen will leave the space for Layfon as it is...since saya choiced Layfon and she is the ruller of this world.... and now Savaris is even gone and left his HB behind... [so queen has now not 11 but 10HB XD)

well it would be nice if Queen said dirrectly to layfon that he can go back and take his place as HB and be close to Leerin... or at least make Layfon take his friends to grendan where they can train to be better military artists.... learn from the best's....

Arkard
2009-06-21, 12:04
Well, Leerin and Felli are the two main characters still in the running for Fon-Fons heart. :D

I guess it´ll depend on if we get a second season. Which seems not that bad a chance, given that the negative grousing that the end would be a "mess" seems to have disappeared.

Not too sure how that conclusion is reached. Only Leerin and Nina have been the ones who've gotten hugged or kissed by Layfon.

I'd say as of the series close the development so far is:

1.) Leerin (Kiss, hug, kiss, blush, yeah she's in the lead clearly...)
2.) Nina (Emo mode upon disappearance + hug + effeminate "Captain!" scream + disturbing happiness after Nina comes back)
3.) Felli (I don't wish for that :heh:)
4.) Mei (Wow she's still alive! :twitch: Seriously, if this wasn't the series finale I don't think she'd have shown up. Naruki has more screen time then her and she's in the harem >_< )

Leaving out the rescues cause Nina, Felli, and Mei have both been rescued at some point or another by Layfon >_<

I thought someone said that a second season was mentioned on the official website?

I found some of the short clips and non essential moments actually the best part of this episode. Like Sharnid with those two girls asleep in his arms, Nina, Layfon, and Zuellni attacking Mei's bento, Shante strangling Gorneo out of happiness, and witch girl commenting on her screen time and "finally getting outside."

And of course, the skateboard scene was over the top. I wish he'd have at least used both the psyharden katana and the HB before they were fused though.

Lostdreams
2009-06-21, 12:06
The person the queen was supposed to marry is related to her.

There is 3 royal family branches in Grendan and they intermarry every 3 generations.

eww that's kinda gross. Anyways, this episode was a little disappointing. I was expecting to learn maybe a little more about who the fox guys were and the world of Regios and Saya etc. Also, the fight between Layfon and Savaris was so horrible!!! One attack and bye bye Savaris. Wtf was I waiting for this entire time.

Eurys
2009-06-21, 12:18
Well there might be another season but I wouldnt be so sure if it will appear so fast... (...) So seriouly it would be even more mess in my eyes...

They could retcon all that happened after Leerin arrived as a dream Nina had while being high on goat-chan's power :heh:


So, it wasn't as messy as I thought, and the pacing and emotions were good enough, but too many unresolved plots make it nonsensical and frustrating anyway.
Lol at the Savaris fight too.

Apart from that, nice to see the characters getting wiser, especially Felli and Nina.
And finally, a rabu rabu LayfonxLeerin scene!!! Now that's a hug :p But that was the least they could do after cutting so many Leerin moments >_>

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 12:24
I saw the subs now and it turned out to be as decent as I thought when I saw the raw. Everyone got their lesson and came to accept it. I'd say it was as satisfying as it can get for a cliffhanger conclusion. And they didn't take the diversion from novels to an unrecoverable point. I'm happy with it. :)

Thanks, Ultramarinus gave me a scare until I scrolled down and noticed he didn't know what he was talking about. I knew that the Queen wasn't Leerin's mother but I wasn't 100% sure.
Heh, sorry. I jumped to conclusions with my 'anime Japanese'. I generally understand frequently used phrases or words though. :heh:
guhhh sad that Layfon had to give back his sword back.... so not only he lost HB but psyharden katana in one go >__> (since they melted together and made katana HB)

Well there might be another season but I wouldnt be so sure if it will appear so fast... anyway It would be kinda hard to pull things all together now.... Leerin is again in Grendan... and so she wont spend more time with Layfon,Meishen,Nina at zerenii..... there was no inter city match.... queen didnt had to take Leerin back to grendan while layfon throught she kidnapped her.....

So seriouly it would be even more mess in my eyes... (not mention that nina lost the haikizoku which in novel like I saw people talking had been taken by the queen too along with leerin...)

Hmm It's hard to say how the second season would contain.... I guess Saya wanted to test if Layfon will take the HB path again.....but anyway its WAY to hard to imagine how they can play it out now.... Layfon in Zerenii and didnt even throught of going back to Grendan to be a full HB now..... (anywya I wonder if the queen will leave the space for Layfon as it is...since saya choiced Layfon and she is the ruller of this world.... and now Savaris is even gone and left his HB behind... [so queen has now not 11 but 10HB XD)

well it would be nice if Queen said dirrectly to layfon that he can go back and take his place as HB and be close to Leerin... or at least make Layfon take his friends to grendan where they can train to be better military artists.... learn from the best's....
Maybe he was able to dismantle the 'swordboard' before they got the blade back, there's a possibility at least.

As for the other stuff, I thought it like this:

- Saya may manually give the goat back to Nina, saying something like "you're chosen like Layfon".
- Myath can come back after Grendan left for a showdown.
- The queen may kidnap/bring Nina back again after she gets the goat.
- Layfon can go after Grendan like Max Payne because he thinks the queen got his 'closest female companions'. :uhoh:

So they may be able to salvage it back to the point the novel's in, it's not impossible.
Not too sure how that conclusion is reached. Only Leerin and Nina have been the ones who've gotten hugged or kissed by Layfon.
I'd call that 'wishful thinking' instead of conclusion. :heh: Felli is clearly off the hook and she still can't accept the fact, result was the kick. :p

cowteats
2009-06-21, 12:35
Though each episode is not great by itself, they complimented each other and and finally built up to an amazing ending in my opinion. Felli-kick aside, it doesn't pander to anime viewers with cuteness/moe and the like.

Take for instance, Sharnid flirting with Shena in ep23 at 07:45.
Sharnid: Have I ever lied to you?
Shena: The only thing I've heard from that mouth of yours are lies. How long must I wait to hear truth from it, Sharnid?
In how many other anime nowadays can you get a sleek dialogue like that and doesn't involve excessive blushing?

Also, not explaining the background and world-view in one shot but showing it through everyday life/dialogue is a refreshing change, though it may invoke some "wtf is going on" reactions from viewers.

Surfboard sword is dumb and big explosions at the end are cliche, but I can live with that. All in all it's an awesome show.

elite-dreams
2009-06-21, 12:58
mahn...i liked this anime alot D: can't believe it ended.
:[ and leerin+layfon's relationship kinda made me fustrated cuz i know they love each other but still have to part there ways eventhough they were already separated for such a long time ToT.

why did grendon take back the heaven's blade from layfon?

i tried looking for the manga to see if they passed the anime but...didnt find much, i'm guessing the anime wasn't based off the manga?

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 13:17
The anime and mangas are based off the light novels, which of 13 volumes are published until now.

They got the HB back as he's still not re-instated. Saya gave it to him without queen's approval.

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-21, 13:22
Sooo...no word on a second season?

And I got a few questions...if someone could answer them lol.

WTF happend there, Saya entrusted Layfon with what exactly? Protecting the Regios world from Ignasis? And why the hell would he give back HIS Katana! I mean his "father" gave him that Katana and he just gives it back!

Man...I wasn't a fan of the ending. Hopefully we get a second season...I wanted a little more action with Layfon and his HB/Katana.

elite-dreams
2009-06-21, 13:32
WTF happend there, Saya entrusted Layfon with what exactly? Protecting the Regios world from Ignasis? And why the hell would he give back HIS Katana! I mean his "father" gave him that Katana and he just gives it back!


meh that wasnt layfon's father, it was leerin's :/
and remember he combined the katana with the hb, well yea, it become one sword now, and since as my question was answered before, he had to return the hb since he was granted complete persmission from the queen that he was allowed to keep it.

yea D: i want 2nd season too, or at least the manga that'll tell an afterstory >.>

willyvereb
2009-06-21, 13:44
Now that's the way to rush and ruin a storyline in the last episodes.Even if it'll have a continuation it would be a great mess.Somehow it resembles Claymore that way.
Anyway at least Savaris was awesome(And he's got trapped in the Zero Domain...it means he's coming back even as even stronger) and loled hard at the Laysurf scene...and I have the chance to see another shin kick(reven if it's annoying with Anime's altered characters it's at least a bit possitive).
Now everything that remained is Missing Mail and Blewin's translations...

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-21, 13:49
Now that's the way to rush and ruin a storyline in the last episodes.Even if it'll have a continuation it would be a great mess.Somehow it resembles Claymore that way.
Anyway at least Savaris was awesome and loled hard at the Laysurf scene...and I have the chance to see another shin kick(reven if it's annoying with Anime's altered characters it's at least a bit possitive).
Now everything that remained is Missing Mail and Blewin's translations...

Blewin is a God.

And did anyone else get a "team rocket" feeling when Savaris was blasted away? Such a weak finish...even Haia had a better end.

Man I am freaking out. I'm sick of shows ending like this. I'm going to go drink myself into a stupor to forget I ever watched this ending and I'll make up my own...At least I g ot Reqiuem for a Phantom which never seems to let me down on how epic reiji has become.

zibi88
2009-06-21, 14:16
meh that wasnt layfon's father, it was leerin's :/
and remember he combined the katana with the hb, well yea, it become one sword now, and since as my question was answered before, he had to return the hb since he was granted complete persmission from the queen that he was allowed to keep it.

yea D: i want 2nd season too, or at least the manga that'll tell an afterstory >.>

nah Delk is noones father.... mostly he was at charge of the orphanage at the time Leerin and Layfon were in it.... so both of them saw him as their father (since he was takeing care of them)... even he said in that leerin scene... katana from father.... so to put it simply he is not Leerin's biological father but a father posture like adoption or something like that....

sad that Layfon had to give the HB sword-katana back....since he can only use it while being a part of grendan yet layfon choiced to stay in zerenii for the time beign... but queen or rather saya choiced Layfon as the 12HB wielder so this spot will be his forever and it will be waiting for him to return..... but well he knows that Leerin,Delk,Queen,Grendan city forgiven him and that he is welcomed in grendan anytime so now he can fight with an ease (maybe with that black katana that he was supposed to use in a match...)

kinda sad that he has to give back something that he just get it >_> (he like savaris [goat] had not much time to play with it...)

maybe layfon will go back to grendan in few years after he graduates... or somthing will happen again and his strenght is needed


I guess next season could focus on the ignasis-regios fight....but I doubt it will happen in this year.... goes we will have to wait and see (kinda sad that someone from the stuff members that was working on regios episode died... kinda like he died along with ending of the anime)... but the authors made it nice to give a dedication to that person at the end....

daimonth
2009-06-21, 14:40
I expected this but it was still painful. Ah well atleast its over.

seiji_kun
2009-06-21, 14:57
Man this final episode was such a waste of potential. Savaris - Layfon was so dissapointing. I know asking it to be of a quality of Cloud vs Sephiroth in FF AC is asking to much (budget / time) but it should've at least be a lot cooler then Layfon's second fight with Heia since we finally had an opponent that was a match for him. Playing Silver Surfer, while I could bash it so hard I won't since I thougth it looked cool even if it isn't all that unique.

Well guess I could hope for a second season since even if the last episodes left me dissapointed this series was bye far one of the better series this season. But open endings are hardly a guarantee at a second series thus I'm not going to waste my hope bye hoping all to much.



- Saya may manually give the goat back to Nina, saying something like "you're chosen like Layfon".

Sorry to dissapoint you obvious Nina fan but Nina is far from chosen. Bye your logic the goat should go to Dinn rather then Nina. But heck since they weren't even capable of wielding its powers I hardly find them chosen.


I'd call that 'wishful thinking' instead of conclusion. :heh: Felli is clearly off the hook and she still can't accept the fact, result was the kick. :p

Well guess Nina fans will view it like that while I think it's fairly obvious a normal reaction of a girl catching her crush with an other girl.

The fact that she's the one standing with him at the end is symbolic enough for me to think that she's his chosen one. They could've put him next to Nina's bed while recovering or sending even Leerin off but they chose for the talk with Fellin. I know people will say it isn't conclusive enough but for these action oriented series that's almost as good as it gets for a pairing.

azarhal
2009-06-21, 15:09
- Saya may manually give the goat back to Nina, saying something like "you're chosen like Layfon".
Sorry to dissapoint you obvious Nina fan but Nina is far from chosen. Bye your logic the goat should go to Dinn rather then Nina. But heck since they weren't even capable of wielding its powers I hardly find them chosen.

Actually, Ultramarinus was simply trying to find a way to keep the show in line with novels where Nina still has the goat as of "today". In other word, the show diverged greatly from the novels in the last 3 episodes to the point where a second season would be complicated to do without heavy patching or making stuff up.

Chase
2009-06-21, 15:24
Im going to miss this anime:upset:. It was a some what decent yet rushed ending. 9/10 for the episode.

Overall:8.5

seiji_kun
2009-06-21, 15:27
Actually, Ultramarinus was simply trying to find a way to keep the show in line with novels where Nina still has the goat as of "today". In other word, the show diverged greatly from the novels in the last 3 episodes to the point where a second season would be complicated to do without heavy patching or making stuff up.

Since I'm one of those unfortunate people who can't speak Japanese though taking Japanese lessons is one of the things on my list to do, I wouldn't know since I stayed away from novel spoilers as much as possible.

But adding a sentence like "you're chosen like Layfon" sounds more like a Nina fan who's trying to add to the Nina-Layfon relationship then someone who really cares about having the plot intact. Just my 2 cents. I mean there is multiple ways to have the goat return without Saya having to say she's also one of her chosen one. Like having the goat just magicly reappear in front of her like it did the first time.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 15:57
But adding a sentence like "you're chosen like Layfon" sounds more like a Nina fan who's trying to add to the Nina-Layfon relationship then someone who really cares about having the plot intact. Just my 2 cents. I mean there is multiple ways to have the goat return without Saya having to say she's a chosen one. Like having the goat just magicly reappear in front of her like it did the first time.
You're assuming too much with literally zero knowledge about the person and the topic. As azarhal said, I was proposing possible ways to connect threads back to the way they're in the novels. Not following spoilers is alright but please don't judge people like that if you don't know what's they're telling about.

Saya has the goat now, she won't just release it into the wasteland. Even if she just leaves the goat in front of Nina, that means she chose her. You basically say the same thing while avoiding gratification.
Well guess Nina fans will view it like that while I think it's fairly obvious a normal reaction of a girl catching her crush with an other girl.
An immature teenager reaction, true. Maybe she'll finally grow up in the next season.
The fact that she's the one standing with him at the end is symbolic enough for me to think that she's his chosen one. They could've put him next to Nina's bed while recovering or sending even Leerin off but they chose for the talk with Fellin. I know people will say it isn't conclusive enough but for these action oriented series that's almost as good as it gets for a pairing.
Then you obviously haven't watched her advances being shot down by Layfon and the fact that she never had an intimate moment like Nina and Leerin did. If you watch the very end scenes during credits, you also see Felli alone by herself with her petals while Nina and Layfon were having meal together, alone. If we apply your logic, it's Nina who's chosen by him. But I don't propose that, since Leerin obviously has the upper hand (final letter from Layfon) and Nina's not really after Layfon. I don't care about who Layfon ends up with anyway.

I shall leave you alone with your wishful thinking, you obvious Felli fan. :rolleyes:

Johnny
2009-06-21, 16:17
Not sure about the whole surfing on the HB scene. Did like the fusing of the two together though. Fight was pretty much over after Layfon got his HB, guess even with the goat Savaris was no match for him...

I don't think anyone shipping for whomever should be that upset. As far as I can see all ships are still out to sea and not a certain ship came into the dock. Oh that sounded quite indecent..

Manji Midou
2009-06-21, 16:36
Well guess Nina fans will view it like that while I think it's fairly obvious a normal reaction of a girl catching her crush with an other girl.

The fact that she's the one standing with him at the end is symbolic enough for me to think that she's his chosen one.

:heh::heh::nono::heh::heh:

l love fellis fans....they are just like fellis delusional, in denial...desperately grasping at straws

Oh snap Layfon is seen in the rolling credits enjoying himself with nina while having lunch while fellis is all alone looking at the wasteland....clearly that's symbolic enough to proof layfon told fellis to get lost and that nina is his chosen one

or better yet....

That letter he sent to Leerin at the end is clearly symolic that she is his chosen girl what with the longing to meet her again. he can't wait to hugz her some moarz!!!!
everyone but fellis fans can see it's either Leerin or Nina for his heart....with Leerin of course being number 1# in his heart.


Btw
l'm happy that my favorite loli Shante got a happy ending...her reaction to his words where adorable and cute....

seiji_kun
2009-06-21, 16:36
You're assuming too much with literally zero knowledge about the person and the topic. As azarhal said, I was proposing possible ways to connect threads back to the way they're in the novels. Not following spoilers is alright but please don't judge people like that if you don't know what's they're telling about.

I give you that, maybe I assumed to much on to little since you were trying to write off Felli on a mere kick and a Nina avatar.


Saya has the goat now, she won't just release it into the wasteland. Even if she just leaves the goat in front of Nina, that means she chose her. You basically say the same thing while avoiding gratification.

She has? I didn't saw her collecting it in the episode? But I see no need to discuss since I don't believe in a second season at all.

And you should learn that animes aren't always exact copy cats of their novel or manga counterpart. Thus hardly even worth discussing when a series completely goes its different route like it's in this case.


An immature teenager reaction, true. Maybe she'll finally grow up in the next season.

That is if we get a second season which I doubt. And cheap blow calling her immature. It was cute man, kawaii!!


Then you obviously haven't watched her advances being shot down by Layfon and the fact that she never had an intimate moment like Nina and Leerin did. If you watch the very end scenes during credits, you also see Felli alone by herself with her petals while Nina and Layfon were having meal together, alone. If we apply your logic, it's Nina who's chosen by him. But I don't propose that, since Leerin obviously has the upper hand and Nina's not really after Layfon. I don't care about who Layfon ends up with anyway.

I've seen as plenty of Felli scenes as Nina if not more. Though we do know what for one a Felli or Nina scene isn't especially for the other.

Last scenes ain't when the credits are rolling. That's just some bonus scenes. And I didn't see a scene after the credits so I do think technically the last scene was Felli and Layfon's little talk.


I shall leave you alone with your wishful thinking, you obvious Felli fan. :rolleyes:

Felli fan? Well a bit but also Leerin and Mei if you do want to know. But doesn't your Nina avatar speaks against you saying that you're no Nina fan.

But I'll leave you alone to with your wishful thinking, especially of a second season.

:heh::heh::nono::heh::heh:

l love fellis fans....they are just like fellis delusional, in denial...desperately grasping at straws

Oh snap Layfon is seen in the rolling credits enjoying himself with nina while having lunch while fellis is all alone looking at the wasteland....clearly that's symbolic enough to proof layfon told fellis to get lost and that nina is his chosen one

or better yet....

That letter he sent to Leerin at the end is clearly symolic that she is his chosen girl what with the longing to meet her again. he can't wait to hugz her some moarz!!!!
everyone but fellis fans can see it's either Leerin or Nina for his heart....with Leerin of course being number 1# in his heart.

Figure out the difference between bonus scenes and a last scene. And yeah his chosen girl is a girl they didn't even bother to show at the end. But really, I don't wish to keep discussing this. If you want to have your own delusional ideas, good for you. I even said.


They could've put him next to Nina's bed while recovering or sending even Leerin off but they chose for the talk with Fellin. I know people will say it isn't conclusive enough but for these action oriented series that's almost as good as it gets for a pairing.

Now bother replying to why they especially went with with Felli for the last scene?

Dominic Night
2009-06-21, 16:45
It was an okay Ending. Although should've had the fight scene longer(I had hope Layfon would atleast cut off an Arm or something other then sent the attack back.).

A shame that they took HB back, it would've been very useful for Zuellni if Layfon kept it to fight against FM.

To me they left it in an Open-Ending. Everyone went back to a normal lifestyle. There wasn't any real romance part in the ending (From my view, people are just putting it that there was romance)



-Felli went back to either scanning/self-training? (I don't really know)
-Sharnid? Going out with two girls (Fan's of his I bet.)
-Harley working on DITE's
-Nina and Layfon on break with Zuellni in the Machinery workplace. (They did that since Eps 2)
-Leerin sending Letters to him. (Doing that for the most of the series)

Lol from my view for a romance thing(Like holding hands or kissing in the ending) The closest thing for that is Felli's kick.(From what I saw is the only contact in the ending.)

panpo98
2009-06-21, 17:04
Well, Lafon have had his head between Felli legs then she sat on his shoulders if we are going to be picky. But I know what you mean.

Nina X Zuellni
Nina have declared her feelings for Zuellni several times and even kissed a long deep one.

willyvereb
2009-06-21, 17:41
Well...about the Nina=Chosen one for the Goat...It could be possible because she has a rather special relationship with the electronic spirits(and this could be a quite good choice to bring back the story to the LN somewhat).
The only problem with the anime-original stories in general that htey tend to be worse than the original. Somehow I can't imagine why they must alter the story of a manga or light novel if most of the fans's wish to see it animated and the others don't mind the similarities(because they probably not even know the original before). If it's the matter of fanservice or animation cost then I could tolerate it. But they're changing the characters too without a proper reason.

Edit:Pairing wars? Now?It's no use...but if we're overanalysing things it's either Nina or Leerin. Probably the later.

Traece
2009-06-21, 18:04
_-_... That's it? That's Season 1?

... Season 2 better be an improvement because I don't recall anything but characters and their backgrounds/relationships being explained in this entire twenty-four episodes.

This last one was alright however. I mean, I don't really know how to judge it. It isn't like they've explained anything about this anime to us. There was fighting, one of the Heaven's Blades dudes went all crazy with power, and Layfon being the epic protagonist he is ends the battle just like his battle with every other person he's fought in the entire anime. Then the season ends, and they take his weapon, and everything goes back to normal. That's really cool considering he had an awesome katana that nobody else is going to be using anyhow. It's not like it's a Layfon-Seeking weapon or anything. He totally doesn't deserve it for being able to summon it out of space and time. But then like I said, I don't understand anything about this anime except for the characters. Lack of background information FOR THE WIN. EPICSAUCE.

With that having been said, it was still an alright episode and there were some entertaining moments. But, I'd have to say that calling it average is pushing it.

Edit: Also... Just because you guys look like you're having fun with pairing wars. :) Episode 1 Spoiler: Leerin totally kissed Layfon already.
They've totally been sending each other letters the entire time. The only one who even has a slight chance of beating Leerin while she's so far ahead is Felli. Newsflash, Nina and Layfon don't even have romantic moments, at all. I don't understand why people think she's going to be the one.

velvet nightmare
2009-06-21, 18:17
wait so did lintence take layfon's heaven's blade or the one savaris left behind?

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 18:19
She has? I didn't saw her collecting it in the episode? But I see no need to discuss since I don't believe in a second season at all.
Saya picks up the mask from the ground towards the end. I don't mind if you don't want to discuss but please let the people who want.
And you should learn that animes aren't always exact copy cats of their novel or manga counterpart. Thus hardly even worth discussing when a series completely goes its different route like it's in this case.
I'm aware of that and I also am aware that those cases end up as horrible anime 99% of the time. That's why we were discussing about how they can get it back on its track.
That is if we get a second season which I doubt. And cheap blow calling her immature. It was cute man, kawaii!!
There's doubt and there's hope, I choose the latter. :) And I was merely stating a fact about Felli, I enjoy comic relief but it needs some refreshment. :heh:
I've seen as plenty of Felli scenes as Nina if not more. Though we do know what for one a Felli or Nina scene isn't especially for the other.

Last scenes ain't when the credits are rolling. That's just some bonus scenes. And I didn't see a scene after the credits so I do think technically the last scene was Felli and Layfon's little talk.
Well, you won't be able to show anything as intimate as ep 19 end or ep 24 mid-term. As I said before, I'm not really interested in the romance aspect of the show so Layfon can suit himself, I'm all neutral about who he should go for.

Last scenes are when the credits are rolling of course, how can you write them off? It's a common thing that happens during season finals and they show how people end up after the events. They're as concrete as it gets.
Felli fan? Well a bit but also Leerin and Mei if you do want to know. But doesn't your Nina avatar speaks against you saying that you're no Nina fan.
I'm indeed a Nina fan but I don't let that cloud my vision to ignore real scenes that I watched. I also don't try to shoot people off while they're having a rational discussion about anime plot just because they're fan of a certain character. :rolleyes:
But I'll leave you alone to with your wishful thinking, especially of a second season.
Thank you, I'll certainly do that as someone who enjoyed the show. :smile:

blewin
2009-06-21, 18:38
I've never been impressed with the action in CSR and this episode is no exception (understandable, consider how they mainly fight with Kei), but the fusion of the katana and HB looks like an overkill.... very cliche. I'd have loved to see a Layfon fighting with one sword in each hand. *wishful thinking*

What I like most about the episode is the very last bit when Leerin and Layfon read the letter together and brings the episode to a close. Kind of like a full circle since they recited a similar line that Leerin wrote in her letter back in the first episode. I reckon that's exceptionally done to draw out some emotional response from the viewers.


Savaris vs Fon Fon = cliché

10 HB defeated the FM = Power Ranger.

totally agree with ya, and somebody in this thread said something about Savaris being sent off like team rockets? agree with that one too. :(

holyman282
2009-06-21, 18:51
Did anyone else find it funny when Nina sees dixero and says "dick" LOL

that scene just made me laugh out loud!!~!

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 19:12
IIRC he's been called as Dick in the novels for some time now, I definitely saw that more than once in novel thread. Unsure if they started shorting it that way later on in the novel but it felt as a sign of another season. As changing what he's called just for the final ep would stay awkward. I know it's conspiracy theory-like but food for thought nonetheless.

Redlar
2009-06-21, 19:16
I wish there were .5 ratings on the voting scale, but meh. You can't get everything you want in life, which is why the ending isn't a 10 for me. The Savaris/Layfon battle could definitely have been more impressive; instead, it was something like 5 minutes of Savaris beating up Layfon, then Layfon getting his magic sword and blowing Savaris away. Kind of anti-climactic.

For the most part, the fighting against the filth monsters was a little boring too, though the level of explosions was nice. The swordboard was just...flashes of Eureka 7, but lamer.

Best parts of the episode:
Savaris going crazy with power.
Nina reconciling and approving a Layfon. Felt like last words for a while though.
Seeing a guan dao in an anime!!!:love:
Nina calling Dixerio "Dick." He is one.
One last Felli kick!
Sharnid's credit scene. What a player.
Zuellni grabbing the lunch box; that was cute.

As for the pairings...I think Layfon would say he doesn't deserve to be loved; he pushes everyone away. Personally, I'd be extremely happy too if someone I thought was dead turned out to be alive. So Layfon's reaction to Nina's return wasn't too surprising or too significant. His romantic moments with Felli are usually shown to be that way through Felli's reactions rather than Layfon's, so I'd say it's a bit one-sided there. As for Leerin, Layfon probably still sees her as his sister or as someone who deserves better; that's why he kissed her on the cheek. Mei doesn't even matter in the anime.

But Nina fans? It doesn't endear anyone to your side when you call Felli fans delusional, in denial...desperately grasping at straws.I'm reading this thread, trying to see if this episode is worth the download, then THAT pops up. Do you have any idea how annoying that is? Suddenly, insults and off-topic ensue:topicoff::bash:
Please, if you're going to derail a thread, could you try to be civil?

That said, the closest thing to a romantic moment in this episode was Layfon/Leerin's reunion on the battlefield and Felli's conversation with Layfon at the end. Felli showed her tsundere side there, which is appropriate as she is still a teenager and not an adult. There could definitely have been a kiss between Layfon and Leerin in that scene and it wouldn't have felt out of place, like the sparkly pink ball in Ep 19.

Kokoru Asami
2009-06-21, 19:18
Does anyone know where the light novel is in regards to where the show left of? i mean like what volume is it? this would sort of give me an idea how much material their is so far.

In my opinion the ending was pretty good i wasnt expecting the best show ever from the anime however i loved it, and i can compensate thanks to the novels WHICH ARE AWESOME!(thanks to blewin AGAIN! for his hard work and making it possible for us CSR fans to read the novels)

Fevvers
2009-06-21, 19:34
But Nina fans? It doesn't endear anyone to your side when you call Felli fans I'm reading this thread, trying to see if this episode is worth the download, then THAT pops up. Do you have any idea how annoying that is? Suddenly, insults and off-topic ensue:topicoff::bash:
Please, if you're going to derail a thread, could you try to be civil?

Manji Midou's more of a Leerin fan though. :heh:

I was going to say something about overgeneralization, but it's all probably going to fall on deaf ears anyway, so nevermind.

black_cat1
2009-06-21, 19:48
The witch :"My show time is too fucking slow!" :D

Freya
2009-06-21, 19:59
The witch :"My show time is too fucking slow!" :D

Haha yeah. That was priceless. Would so rather have seen more of the HBs than Nina.

Manji Midou
2009-06-21, 20:04
Manji Midou's more of a Leerin fan though. :heh:


that l am. :heh:

seiji_kun
2009-06-21, 20:09
Saya picks up the mask from the ground towards the end. I don't mind if you don't want to discuss but please let the people who want.

Of course you are free to discuss it with others but I'm just saying that I don't feel the need to comment on it myself thus I didn't.


I'm aware of that and I also am aware that those cases end up as horrible anime 99% of the time. That's why we were discussing about how they can get it back on its track.

This is something I can agree with completely. It even happened to my all time favorite manga => Rurouni Kenshin.


There's doubt and there's hope, I choose the latter. :) And I was merely stating a fact about Felli, I enjoy comic relief but it needs some refreshment. :heh:

In my case, I've just been to much dissapointed. Gantz, Claymore, Ichigo 100%, Nagasarete Airantou, Suzuka, Air Gear,... This just seems like one to add to that list.


Well, you won't be able to show anything as intimate as ep 19 end or ep 24 mid-term. As I said before, I'm not really interested in the romance aspect of the show so Layfon can suit himself, I'm all neutral about who he should go for.

I think this is just a matter of opinion cause in all honosty I can't even remember the Nina mid-term scene this episode though I can remember that stupid scene where she shows in the background. Like I said earlier, the hug is something Fellin would've had to if it wasn't for the wound and Leerin and Nina suddenly showing up ruining any chance at a cute scene between them.


Last scenes are when the credits are rolling of course, how can you write them off? It's a common thing that happens during season finals and they show how people end up after the events. They're as concrete as it gets.

To me they are not more then little bonus scenes to how you so nicely put it, to show a bit more how they ended. Nothing significant happens in it except for the most obvious things.

If they were really that important it would been add before the credits cause (a stupid example) in the cinema you always see the majority just leave during the credits even if it has bonus scenes next to the credits. Which only shows how insignificant they really are.


I'm indeed a Nina fan but I don't let that cloud my vision to ignore real scenes that I watched. I also don't try to shoot people off while they're having a rational discussion about anime plot just because they're fan of a certain character. :rolleyes:

I apologize bye all means if that's how I came a cross. Blame the internet and not only me. I know your comment about Felli that she's out was probably only joking but it's so hard to know whether people are joking or serious on the internet. Even with a :P since people dare to abuse that as an excuse if they're joking. Or maybe I'm just one hell of a cynical guy.

We're all free to our own opinion, just saying that I don't agree at all with Felli is totally out if you were serious. And yeah maybe I went in a bit to smuggish or childish way about it.




But like I said in one of the comments that got deleted which I'm glad for cause that wasn't a real sign of maturity (giving in to flamebait). This shown isn't romance oriented. It's action oriented and in like a lot of them they ignore the romance or hardly do it justice. Here beeing a mix of it. Giving some romance but hardly conclusive enough. So open that we can start a discussion similar to: Did Lelouch die or did he live?

And if I have to say my opinion about it, I go with Felli beeing the one who had the final scene and was acting like a wife catching her husband cheating with his mistress. Leerin's hug was cute and all but in the end they didn't even bother to show him sending her of. Having the final scene speaks volumes for me and rolling credits are just rolling credits. But I know all that's just my opinion.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 20:37
I think this is just a matter of opinion cause in all honosty I can't even remember the Nina mid-term scene this episode though I can remember that stupid scene where she shows in the background. Like I said earlier, the hug is something Fellin would've had to if it wasn't for the wound and Leerin and Nina suddenly showing up ruining any chance at a cute scene between them.
I meant Leerin for 24 mid-term, I wasn't trying to promote Nina there. Felli just didn't have anything like that or the 'marvelous Advent Children hug'. :meh:
To me they are not more then little bonus scenes to how you so nicely put it, to show a bit more how they ended. Nothing significant happens in it except for the most obvious things.

If they were really that important it would been add before the credits cause (a stupid example) in the cinema you always see the majority just leave during the credits even if it has bonus scenes next to the credits. Which only shows how insignificant they really are.
Well, this isn't a western cinema movie though and they're not Jackie Chan shooting mistakes either. I assume that you have already seen such conclusive scenes during credits of final episodes before? If you haven't: Many series have that kind of endings and they are always the most significant part regarding the end, they're definitive to people's state and what they do in the aftermath of the events. If it shows something, it's the final and ultimate word about that issue till another season.
I apologize bye all means if that's how I came a cross. Blame the internet and not only me. I know your comment about Felli that she's out was probably only joking but it's so hard to know whether people are joking or serious on the internet. Even with a :P since people dare to abuse that as an excuse if they're joking. Or maybe I'm just one hell of a cynical guy.

We're all free to our own opinion, just saying that I don't agree at all with Felli is totally out if you were serious. And yeah maybe I went in a bit to smuggish or childish way about it.
I think that Felli's already out since back ep 18 end but I was merely joking about the eager comments. I chose the word "wishful thinking" because it didn't seem offensive to me, it wasn't said with offensive intention in any case.
But like I said in one of the comments that got deleted which I'm glad for cause that wasn't a real sign of maturity (giving in to flamebait). This shown isn't romance oriented. It's action oriented and in like a lot of them they ignore the romance or hardly do it justice. Here beeing a mix of it. Giving some romance but hardly conclusive enough. So open that we can start a discussion similar to: Did Lelouch die or did he live?
Yup and I told that I'm not really interested in the romance aspect of the show. It provides fun and some spice at times and I like it that way, rather than overblown focus on it. That's why I don't get into those shipping battles.
And if I have to say my opinion about it, I go with Felli beeing the one who had the final scene and was acting like a wife catching her husband cheating with his mistress. Leerin's hug was cute and all but in the end they didn't even bother to show him sending her of. Having the final scene speaks volumes for me and rolling credits are just rolling credits. But I know all that's just my opinion.
The thing is that Layfon already rejected Felli's advance so he doesn't need to be faithful towards Felli. Funny yeah but I had expected Felli to mature a little bit by now. She at least took up her combat responsibilities like Nina wanted so I'm still content by that much. :p Rolling credits I explained above, they're the word of anime god. :heh:

Arkard
2009-06-21, 20:42
Do you have any idea how annoying that is? Suddenly, insults and off-topic ensue:topicoff::bash:
Please, if you're going to derail a thread, could you try to be civil?

To be fair, it's less annoying then size 5 font. Also, I do believe a discussion about where the episode puts the girls with Layfon is legitimate. I would comment on over generalization and the irony here, but will instead focus on:

The witch :"My show time is too fucking slow!" :D

One of the best lines all season. :D

Did anyone else find it funny when Nina sees dixero and says "dick" LOL

that scene just made me laugh out loud!!~!

Maybe I just forgot, but I was a bit surprised at this. When did Nina learn his name? When he was talking to her before the sparkly hug reunion in ep. 19? I don't recall that :(

wait so did lintence take layfon's heaven's blade or the one savaris left behind?

He took back Layfon's blade. Speaking of Lintence, although it hasn't been said, there is some implication that he's one of the strongest HBs and kind of the defacto leader giving orders and all during the fight. Anyone have any idea?

Also, as a side note, I'm not sure where people are getting the teenager = I can be super immature excuse. Almost all the main characters including Layfon and the harem are teenagers :heh: However, you can see the clear differences in each of them.

Narona
2009-06-21, 20:51
I think that Felli's already out since back ep 18 end but I was merely joking about the eager comments. I chose the word "wishful thinking" because it didn't seem offensive to me, it wasn't said with offensive intention in any case.


It's not like that that you should think. Not thinking about "yourself", but about "if it could be seen as offensive by the other people".

Anyway, about Felli, I disagree, but as expected, Romance stayed unresolved (for the best or the worse)

Good episode anyway :)

Tonight, I did an epic catch up of what i missed. I was busy with my exams so far.

I liked the ending, let's hope for a second season :heehee:

ZeroForever
2009-06-21, 21:10
meh personally i thought this eps was clinch... it probably would have ranked higher if i didn't know that they were butchering the story line at the same time.

so yeah 5, below average in my expectations i expected some sorta average anime end but they went with the super clinch one that offended my tastes more then anything else.

the witch though had the best line of the eps as noted by others.

seiji_kun
2009-06-21, 21:16
I meant Leerin for 24 mid-term, I wasn't trying to promote Nina there. Felli just didn't have anything like that or the 'marvelous Advent Children hug'. :meh:

Well nothing compares to the Advent Children hug, I don't even dare to state how much times I've watched that scene over and over.


Well, this isn't a western cinema movie though and they're not Jackie Chan shooting mistakes either. I assume that you have already seen such conclusive scenes during credits of final episodes before? If you haven't: Many series have that kind of endings and they are always the most significant part regarding the end, they're definitive to people's state and what they do in the aftermath of the events. If it shows something, it's the final and ultimate word about that issue till another season.

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/mugiwara84

I'll let you judge yourself but I do think I've watched enough anime series to know how significant rolling credits are. Just take Midori no Hibi were I got my nick from. All rolling credits do is show obvious things, the they all lived happily ever after ending. You'd hardly find anything significant in it that you wouldn't have guessed.


I think that Felli's already out since back ep 18 end but I was merely joking about the eager comments. I chose the word "wishful thinking" because it didn't seem offensive to me, it wasn't said with offensive intention in any case.

It wasn't, I'm just that cynical. My thougths: someone with a Nina avatar can't be joking about Felli.


Yup and I told that I'm not really interested in the romance aspect of the show. It provides fun and some spice at times and I like it that way, rather than overblown focus on it. That's why I don't get into those shipping battles.

Same here, though I do dare to comment on some lines I fully disagree with. Like in this case though my cynism owned me here seeing my target was really joking.


The thing is that Layfon already rejected Felli's advance so he doesn't need to be faithful towards Felli. Funny yeah but I had expected Felli to mature a little bit by now. She at least took up her combat responsibilities like Nina wanted so I'm still content by that much. :p Rolling credits I explained above, they're the word of anime god. :heh:

I do know which scene you're speaking of and to me that scene was hardly truly rejecting her. Felt to me more like it wasn't the time or place. If you ever watched marmalade boy, TPO is extremely important while confessing.

Rolling credits, stated my opinion about it enough. And Kenshin never told me that it was his word!

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 21:43
It's not like that that you should think. Not thinking about "yourself", but about "if it could be seen as offensive by the other people".
Sorry but there is a limit to how much words can stay politically correct when you want to make a joke. I know of cruder ways to word it but no kinder ones. I don't think that I should apologize about the joke I intended but my apologies if it sounded offensive to anyone still.
I'll let you judge yourself but I do think I've watched enough anime series to know how significant rolling credits are. Just take Midori no Hibi were I got my nick from. All rolling credits do is show obvious things, the they all lived happily ever after ending. You'd hardly find anything significant in it that you wouldn't have guessed.
Then you should know that those scenes are as authoritative on the anime as any other scene shown before them. You cannot just ignore them outright. The credits could as well begin rolling when Layfon was swordboarding, there's no difference.

Fun fact of the day: Same thing happened at the end of ep 2, a very critical moment regarding the plot was shown while Yasashii Uso played and credits rolled. Can you ignore that part and act as if it never happened too?
I do know which scene you're speaking of and to me that scene was hardly truly rejecting her. Felt to me more like it wasn't the time or place. If you ever watched marmalade boy, TPO is extremely important while confessing.
It's not like she offered to date or marry but she confessed through those offers. As much as Layfon may look dumb, he looked and used his tone in a way that he was aware of what he was rejecting. And he clearly refused those, he didn't say something like "let's talk about it later". Moreover, he never initiated an intimate moment with Felli by himself. I don't think his disinterest can be shown clearer than this.

In any case, I was merely saying that she wasn't his waifu, so he can flirt with whoever he likes. That's why the kick was unjustified, as always. :heh:

Master Assassin
2009-06-21, 22:05
that l am. :heh:

I believe I asked you to share some stuff way back in Page 2 of this thread. :rolleyes:

SwiftStrike
2009-06-21, 22:25
open ended about saya/leerin/dimensions....

maybe a SS would help

Jski
2009-06-21, 22:41
I do not know that world seems so odd unless its crazy metaphoric for our world?
Any way 6 out of 10 lots of action but the random character who really have no names came out of no where with nearly no back story took a lot a way from the over all story I think.
On a side note it seems like they are fighting the world not really protecting it. I wish they told more about it.

seiji_kun
2009-06-21, 22:51
Fun fact of the day: Same thing happened at the end of ep 2, a very critical moment regarding the plot was shown while Yasashii Uso played and credits rolled. Can you ignore that part and act as if it never happened too?

They are always exceptions on the rule and the fact that it's not the final episode is already enough exception cause those aren't the usual rolling credits that add the living happely ever after bonus scenes like in a final episode. But lets just agree to disagree cause going back and forth is getting to tiring.


It's not like she offered to date or marry but she confessed through those offers. As much as Layfon may look dumb, he looked and used his tone in a way that he was aware of what he was rejecting. And he clearly refused those, he didn't say something like "let's talk about it later". Moreover, he never initiated an intimate moment with Felli by himself. I don't think his disinterest can be shown clearer than this.

In any case, I was merely saying that she wasn't his waifu, so he can flirt with whoever he likes. That's why the kick was unjustified, as always. :heh:

If she was as clearly rejected like Mei who clearly stepped back after saying he probably would never let her protect him then I'd have no problem admitting it. And Mei was my absolute favorite girl (brunette, big boobs, gentle, what does a man wants more?) but I didn't bother to hope since it was to clear she wasn't real competition.

And I don't remember the scene were discussing bye heart but wasn't it him shrugging her of cause he had bigger things on his head? Nina's dissapearance and the haikozoku? And I need to rewatch every episode of this series again to adress your other issues. Didn't keep count or track on the intimate moments initiated bye Layfon. Off to bed now though.

Arkard
2009-06-21, 23:00
Mei wasn't rejected anymore then Felli. I think she just felt guilt ridden that Layfon got seriously hurt because of her. She's still making him lunches, has the little Layfon plushie, etc.

I feel bad for her, her screen time dropped to zero at the whim of the staff =x

Manji Midou
2009-06-21, 23:01
I believe I asked you to share some stuff way back in Page 2 of this thread. :rolleyes:

what would you like me to share with you?
surely you aren't singling me out because l said it was a leerin ending and did not go to detail?
a few post before someone said it was a fellis ending without going to detail as well...
so why only ask me, could it be my charms have captivated you?:blush::heehee:
ahem...
there's no definite winner or chosen girl as some have put it :heh:
but it's pretty obvious that leerin is in the lead for layfon's heart.

btw...
it's a shame no one said it was a nina ending for the hell of it...
a poster before me said fellis ending, l said leerin ending.... someone should had kept the chain going and should had mention nina/meishen.

all in all the only pair that might have become a couple is my lovable loli shante and that guy.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-21, 23:04
And I don't remember the scene were discussing bye heart but wasn't it him shrugging her of cause he had bigger things on his head? Nina's dissapearance and the haikozoku? And I need to rewatch every episode of this series again to adress your other issues. Didn't keep count or track on the intimate moments initiated bye Layfon. Off to bed now though.
Felli offered to do anything including counting monster scales if he wanted from her but he walks past her and in a serious facial expression and voice tone, says, "I do not wish for that". Watch that scene again if you wish but he clearly rejects her advance. And if she really had an intimate scene initiated by Layfon, you'd already remember it. ;) I'm off to bed as well.
btw...
it's a shame no one said it was a nina ending for the hell of it...
a poster before me said fellis ending, l said leerin ending.... someone should had kept the chain going and should had mention nina/meishen.
Nina said "I leave Layfon in your care" to Leerin so I obey her wishes. :heh: I think such a person would get crucified anyway. :p

Slick_rick
2009-06-21, 23:43
Too many random stuff happened in this episode for me to have enjoyed it. The goat randomly pops out of Nina and hops into Savaris. Saya randomly pops in and immediately blow Savaris away like he's a fly. Layfon does some sword combining out of nowhere then goes surfing for the hell of it. The fight scenes weren't good at all though I honestly expected it to suck since CSR isn't really great on action scenes.

The romance was pretty open ended, well at least for Nina and Leerin. Mei finally get a scene after so long but she's been out of it since a while ago and Felli gets her normal jealousy routine which doesn't really mean much. Either way though they're still not getting any love from Layfon beyond friendship. Hard for me to guess who's ahead on Nina or Leerin though. Leerin I think because of the mushy reunion scene but Nina had one even mushier before and her face appearing when Layfon went in for the last attack was weird. I honestly just wished they made it obvious which one of them he'd chose so that Felli fans can move on. Denial is a river than runs deep and so some will never admit the truth unless it's made completely obvious.

germanturkey
2009-06-22, 00:11
say what? Leerin had the foremost position at the end of the show? with the wish of the two of them being together again?! oh snap. she wins.

rest of it was a bit anti-climatic. fight between Savaris and Layfon was meh. surfboard katana was also laugh out loud worthy. no indication of lasting damage for Nina, Mei got written out, Felli concedes that Leerin is the one.

Von Himmel
2009-06-22, 00:49
Too many random stuff happened in this episode for me to have enjoyed it. The goat randomly pops out of Nina and hops into Savaris. Saya randomly pops in and immediately blow Savaris away like he's a fly. Layfon does some sword combining out of nowhere then goes surfing for the hell of it. The fight scenes weren't good at all though I honestly expected it to suck since CSR isn't really great on action scenes.
THIS. !
And that also makes me wonder whether I should comment on this episode or not, because I was mainly speechless when watching this episode. From the way they make Savaris' character like that to skateboard Layfon, and until the very end of the episode which explained how the Queen cared so much about Leerin. (not to mention that he returned both of them to Grendan !), I don't know whether I could call this a good ending or even a good episode to judge ;(

The battle was quite decent, but it would be better if they make them a little bit more detailed. From what I've seen, it's just a spamming of colored beam that was flashing around the screen #_#;; Well, Layfon was quite cool in this episode so all is okay I guess :3 (Btw, it it just me...but why do I see a resemblance to Daizengar's sword (SRW OG) in Layfon's dite ? o.o;)

No comment for the romance. Just watching the fighting scene makes me forget about all of it for a while ;( I think it's an open ending though :(

Ah.... and I missed that Felli's kick a lot :3

germanturkey
2009-06-22, 00:52
what "fighting scene" do you speak of? because it definitely was lacking from this ep..

Bordix
2009-06-22, 01:30
oh, again with the 1 hit. Oh well descent ending I guess.

Hey, did anybody lol'd when Layfon seemingly ditched Nina when Salvaris went steroid mode? I can Imagine Layfon saying "every man for himself" :heh:

Anyways, this was an interesting series. If there would be a 2nd s/OVa or something, I'm sure to give it a try :)


10 HB defeated the FM = Power Ranger.

I was thinking the same thing :heh:

molitar
2009-06-22, 01:37
Well I have no clue what happened in this show.. Leerin what is her power? Why is she so important? Who is Saya because the queen just stood their helpless while the HB flew off to layfon. And than why they take back the HB? Who were the weirdo's in the masks? And what was that last Filth Monster it was something special evidently it just kept hatching out of it's own remains. Near the end the show made absolutely no sense at all.. it just kept throwing questions after questions without a single answer and everything seemed to became totally meaningless. I had to give it a rating of painful since nothing made any sense guess had to read the manga or novels not sure which to understand what is going on.

shmaster
2009-06-22, 02:20
Well I have no clue what happened in this show.. Leerin what is her power? Why is she so important? Who is Saya because the queen just stood their helpless while the HB flew off to layfon. And than why they take back the HB? Who were the weirdo's in the masks? And what was that last Filth Monster it was something special evidently it just kept hatching out of it's own remains. Near the end the show made absolutely no sense at all.. it just kept throwing questions after questions without a single answer and everything seemed to became totally meaningless. I had to give it a rating of painful since nothing made any sense guess had to read the manga or novels not sure which to understand what is going on.

*Points to the spoiler topic

Nothign make sense because the anime didn't even try to explain them.

zibi88
2009-06-22, 02:29
Well I have no clue what happened in this show.. Leerin what is her power? Why is she so important? Who is Saya because the queen just stood their helpless while the HB flew off to layfon. And than why they take back the HB? Who were the weirdo's in the masks? And what was that last Filth Monster it was something special evidently it just kept hatching out of it's own remains. Near the end the show made absolutely no sense at all.. it just kept throwing questions after questions without a single answer and everything seemed to became totally meaningless. I had to give it a rating of painful since nothing made any sense guess had to read the manga or novels not sure which to understand what is going on.

Who is Saya..... Saya is the ruller of the whole regios world.... this world is hers (like the world inside her)........ fox-masked-people are messages from the other dimension from Ignasis and like all enemy's they try to destroy regios world [or absorb it so that 1would would exist]....... to learn more about Saya and the regios world we have to wait for that "Legend of Regios" OVA that we saw few clips from it in may episodes.... that is all about Saya and how the regios world was creted and stuff like that....

Queen is just a posture of ruller of the regios domes.... but the true posseser and even creator of this world is Saya (whole world with all spirits, haikizoku, HB, regios domes are hers.... [we saw that she instantly could create HUGE ass shield on the battlefield so HB's could breath durring the fight...]........ queen;s job is to protect saya's body

I think that there are currently 2worlds..... Regios world and Ignasis world those two worlds are separeted by Zero domain (aurora fields) where Dixerio is sitting.... offcourse Ignasis wants to destroy/take over the regios world (so it would be 1world that belongs to ignasis) and for that he will send more monsters (even Lintence mentioned that the last filth monster was from other world)

So those from other world are way stronger to the one's liveing in this current world..... about Leerin's eye power..... we have to wait for the OVA Legend of Regios that will come up with some DVD's releace if I remember..... there will be more explanations about Saya and that eye power, the world , who is ignasis ect (Leerin's eye power will be the same as the guy with the cigarete and guns in those clips)

Well the most wtf! was for me that soo long for bring katana to layfon... and whole hb sword issue.... and even so saya choiced Layfon as the true possesor of the HB's sword..... after few sec of fight... he stayed at Zerenii and had to give the sword back >__< why they couldnt live him that sword so he could protect the city for the time beign.... and so that sword is and will be his becouse it was saya's choice who is above queen.... and this way it will just collect dust in that room with blades >_<

I was wondering about what was the Grendan objective to move close to Zerenii.... did Saya wanted to pick up Layfon.... and give him the sword since she choiced him alone.... since after layfon got the sword and killed that monster Grendan started to move away from Zerenii.... its like Saya made Layfon undergoo a test to see if he will take that fate of beign HB user and fight for her world.... he took that fate so she has her answer and for the time beign they can leave him be..... but he will eventually return to grendan for sure


So to understand the whole saya, world, what is going on we have to wait for the Legend of Regios animation...

Von Himmel
2009-06-22, 02:31
what "fighting scene" do you speak of? because it definitely was lacking from this ep..
That 'lacking' was the one that made me forget about the romance for a while :(
And yeah, I'm frustated that they make it like that :(

zibi88
2009-06-22, 02:46
At least it came true to what I was saying for long time..... that they will do alternative anime open-ending......... so its different from what happened in novel.... but it ended without concludeing anything leaving kinda space for next season which would more focus on the battle with ignasis.... since this series was like resolveing Layfon's personal matters and give him the feeling that he can fight by useing all his power as he wants since people that were important to him have forgeven him...... so next series if they will make might be about like I said the battle with ignasis.... more leerin with her power... layfon might come back in order to help in the fight since his sword is waiting for him...

Tjaard
2009-06-22, 04:34
Well, isn't so bad as ending, except Layfon surfing on the HB, that was funny :D
I hoped for a long battle with Savaris, but one hit and KO was pretty fast lol
And at the ending, the scene and the talking was more over "if you want know more and continue the story, read the novels" :heh:
However as ending placed for finish a series isn't so bad so i liked too; now i can follow the translation of Blewin for know more :D

-Sho-
2009-06-22, 05:57
Oh come on ... Just watch this episode :

God , Stop shante ! She's like a crybaby !!!
And Wtf the goat comes out Nina's body and go in Savaris's body , why ??
Yeah , i lol when Layfon left Nina (but i think probably to don't hurt her becauqe Savaris shot beams XD ) .
BUT COME ON WTF need more actions !! Savaris = 1 shot (not surprising , its Layfon after all .. even the HB can't last more times lol )
Yeah Layfon surfing on HB XD one shot the filth monsters yeaaaah with the combo Psyharden Katana , HB katana !
And Saya choose Layfon . But wtf we don't know more yet about the plot .....
and the ends was wtf even more !!
Well , i knew that Leerin was Shinola's siblings !
But wtf the ends !!
Need a season 2 or wtf !

The ends Layfon x Leerin ftw

tsunade666
2009-06-22, 07:13
Well the last episode really lacks a lot. Its just all pack into one episode. Revealing a few
mystery like the relationship between leerin and the queen but whats with the HB katana.
Layfon leaving it behind. yeh it belong to the grendan supposedly but saya did give it to him.
And did this arc really happen in the novel to begin with? or just anime original?
And as for mei being rejected I didn't even know that that part happen. Its just layfon is
dumb guy that goes with any girl but its clearly higher for leerin. And as for felli being
stereotype type character till the end ease the lacking of the episode. But really saying
that nina having an ending never in hell. I would probably curse regios if they even try
having an ending with nina. Its more like yaoi if it happen.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-22, 07:34
And Wtf the goat comes out Nina's body and go in Savaris's body , why ??
Yeah , i lol when Layfon left Nina (but i think probably to don't hurt her becauqe Savaris shot beams XD ) .
Yeah, just hurting the host to make it come out seemed a bit weird at first. Maybe it tries to leave to survive (Savaris says it would be so after Layfon told him to stop because he'd kill Nina at that rate) if the host is about to die as Savaris had just shot to kill Nina.

And yeah, Savaris had the goat so he had focused on Layfon. Nina was safer without him close and he couldn't carry her anywhere else with Savaris bombarding.

RWBladewing
2009-06-22, 07:52
Hey, did anybody lol'd when Layfon seemingly ditched Nina when Salvaris went steroid mode? I can Imagine Layfon saying "every man for himself" :heh:


That was exactly what I thought when I saw that scene. Even though he was obviously thinking she'd be safer there, he didn't really show it; he just got this "oh crap!" look on his face and started running.:heh:

Anyway, my first and last comment on the series is, basically, the potential for a really interesting story was there but they did a really bad job of telling it. It didn't really explain most of the major plot points and even introduced new ones in the last episode, and not a whole lot was even resolved at the end. It's more understandable if they really are doing a second season but I still feel it was pretty much all over the place. If nothing else though, the hints that an interesting plot was hidden there somewhere have motivated me to start reading the novel.

Keeper
2009-06-22, 08:00
The series started out well but the end result is lackluster series. This final episode was ridiculous. If second season is anything like this, I hope it never airs and instead they can produce something that is worth watching.

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-22, 08:09
I don't get something...before Layfon killed that final Filth Monster Nina came in screaming his name...

Did anyone else go WTF!?!?!

1. I thought she was on the virge of conciousness.
2. How the F can she be so energetic when before she was almost dying.
3. Layfon x Nina = How it should be. Leerin can't even walk down a hill without falling down. Layfon x Nina would make one epic team.

willyvereb
2009-06-22, 08:22
Let's see the conclusion of the romance in the anime for now:
Felli=good friend/owner
Nina=Taichou!(whatever it means:p)
Leerin=dear sister
Mayshen:classmate(as the other two girls)
Naruki: Zero romantical development
So on the outside there's not even an inch change since the begining...inside another(and mysterious) thing.

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-22, 08:27
Let's see the conclusion of the romance in the anime for now:
Felli=good friend/owner
Nina=Taichou!(whatever it means:p)
Leerin=dear sister
Mayshen:classmate(as the other two girls)
Naruki: Zero romantical development
So on the outside there's not even an inch change since the begining...inside another(and mysterious) thing.

Man Layfon is a pimp. He isn't even working for it and he's got one girl making him lunch, he then shares that with another girl. He's keeping Leerin on the side so no matter what he's got someone in Grendan.

Baller? I think so.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-22, 08:50
I don't get something...before Layfon killed that final Filth Monster Nina came in screaming his name...

Did anyone else go WTF!?!?!

1. I thought she was on the virge of conciousness.
2. How the F can she be so energetic when before she was almost dying.
3. Layfon x Nina = How it should be. Leerin can't even walk down a hill without falling down. Layfon x Nina would make one epic team.
Yeah, I'll put my response to blewin from Nina's thread on that part:
It felt like Nina getting all BANZAI! as Layfon finally is going full force without any remorse, (she wants him to wield the blade just the previous scene) that was what I could make out of it anyway. Gotta say that was kinda weird though. :heh:
Even though I'm not actively participating on romance discussions, agreed on the third topic on your list. They would be like Mr & Mrs Smith, would provide epic showdown vs monsters or whatever. :p

Nina=Taichou!(whatever it means:p)

Captain! Well, not like he could call her anything else while on duty. :heh: IIRC he refers to her as Nina-senpai otherwise.

-Sho-
2009-06-22, 09:04
Anyway , Layfon is the type of character who don't care about girlfriend . He's fine alone . Maybe he'll be interested by a girl who is stronger like him lol

PNGO
2009-06-22, 09:39
The final episodes of this series have been all over the place. So much stuff going on and they almost don't explain half of it. Maybe they rushed it because they
had only 24 episodes for this, I can understand this but it just left me so confused.

Kokoru Asami
2009-06-22, 09:47
Does anyone know where the light novel is in regards to where the show left of? i mean like what volume is it? this would sort of give me an idea how much material their is so far.

azarhal
2009-06-22, 09:54
Does anyone know where the light novel is in regards to where the show left of? i mean like what volume is it? this would sort of give me an idea how much material their is so far.

Well since the abandonned Inter-City match the rest have been 100% made-up stuff.

The Mayath(sp?) city match was from vol. 7.

Pradelus
2009-06-22, 10:48
"Dick!"

lol, wth Nina.

The whole thing with Saya, I don't get at all. :o

seiji_kun
2009-06-22, 12:27
Felli offered to do anything including counting monster scales if he wanted from her but he walks past her and in a serious facial expression and voice tone, says, "I do not wish for that". Watch that scene again if you wish but he clearly rejects her advance.

Thanks for describing it a little more to detail. Makes remembering it a whole lot easier. I can't denie that it was a rejection, but it hardly felt like me that he told her she had no chance or was struck out for good. I thougth the "that" stould for, I do not wish for a girl who'd sacrifice everything for me to a point that she risks her own health which counting those monster scales would result to cause she would be crazy enough to overexhaust herself for him.


And if she really had an intimate scene initiated by Layfon, you'd already remember it. ;)

Intimate scenes initiated, well it's not like the others gave me the vibe that they had an intimate scene initiated bye Layfon that contained romantic feelings. Not Nina's reunion in the air which Felli would get a hug to in that circumstance and not even Leerin in this episode. Leerin's hug seemed more like a form of grattitude mixed up with relieve that she was still alive. Bye no means do I want to downplay those scenes but I don't want to overdramatize them either.

We all got our own opinion in the end and if people do think there was more to it, like how I think the Felli - Layfon pairing was the most pushed pairing in the whole series then I'll respect their opinion. And I guess they did leave it awefully ambiguous so each fan can give it the ending they want.

TrueKnight
2009-06-22, 12:40
Felli got rejected because 1) she confessed at the worst moment possible where Fon-fon was still emo and blaming himself; 2) like others said, what she had offered were too overly devoted to point of willing to do anything and even die for him. But yea there's still chance for her and heck for any of the girls.


Btw, anyone wanted a replacement for CSR perhaps this would interest you,


iVql97Rxi2I

Got it from the Seiken No Blacksmith thread, the main male lead screams 'Layfon' all over him and also armed with a katana. ;) Not to mention a full set of hot chicks.

It'll air sometime this year I think.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-22, 13:11
Thanks for describing it a little more to detail. Makes remembering it a whole lot easier. I can't denie that it was a rejection, but it hardly felt like me that he told her she had no chance or was struck out for good. I thougth the "that" stould for, I do not wish for a girl who'd sacrifice everything for me to a point that she risks her own health which counting those monster scales would result to cause she would be crazy enough to overexhaust herself for him.
Then if Layfon isn't interested in such a girl, (we never saw any interest on his side) that means it's over for Felli.
Intimate scenes initiated, well it's not like the others gave me the vibe that they had an intimate scene initiated bye Layfon that contained romantic feelings. Not Nina's reunion in the air which Felli would get a hug to in that circumstance and not even Leerin in this episode. Leerin's hug seemed more like a form of grattitude mixed up with relieve that she was still alive. Bye no means do I want to downplay those scenes but I don't want to overdramatize them either.
Well, it wasn't Layfon who went to hug her. :) It was still one sided and Felli can't even say "oh sorry" when she touches Layfon's wound. That's like shooting yourself in the foot. :heh: Ultimately, it's nowhere close to other situations with other girls.
We all got our own opinion in the end and if people do think there was more to it, like how I think the Felli - Layfon pairing was the most pushed pairing in the whole series then I'll respect their opinion. And I guess they did leave it awefully ambiguous so each fan can give it the ending they want.
Of course, but here being a discussion forum, I'm just speaking my mind as to why I think Felli's chances are next to none. I'm not disrespecting any opinion but if I don't see sufficient basis to them, I'll point out so. That person then can defend their point of view if they can offer valid reasoning. I'll be happy to ponder the issue then.
Felli got rejected because 1) she confessed at the worst moment possible where Fon-fon was still emo and blaming himself; 2) like others said, what she had offered were too overly devoted to point of willing to do anything and even die for him.
Or as Occam's Razor proposes, he's just not interested. :heehee:
But yea there's still chance for her and heck for any of the girls.
True, but the probability of those start from the base range of 1%. :meh:

TrueKnight
2009-06-22, 13:28
I wouldn’t call it lower than 1%. So far Fon-fon is denser than a rock when it comes with interaction with the opposite sex with almost zero romantic interest. Felli had her moments in ep 20-21 when she went missing and Fon-fon has the resolve to save her. Some in the middle of last episode when he listened to her and finally at the last scene.

That said it’s really up to the girls to open the thick head of his in order to have him romantically attracted. That or Fon-fon is actually gay.

Nochgo
2009-06-22, 13:32
Hmm.. I felt the ending was rather boring, to put it simply. No spectacular battle or anything. Anyhow, I guess I'll watch season 2 when/if it comes out, but I won't be looking forward to it much.

Manji Midou
2009-06-22, 14:27
l see no one cares that the only worth mentioning loli shante got a happy ending. :T_T:

fellis actually has more of a chance in developing her character (shocking isn't it) then ever hooking up with layfon. since layfon's rejection she has only been used as a gag character. :heehee:

ipernorris
2009-06-22, 14:34
That said it’s really up to the girls to open the thick head of his in order to have him romantically attracted. That or Fon-fon is actually gay.
Layfon is already commited with Goat-chan! How did you dare forgetting something as important as this?!? :mad: :D

Anyway I think next season Layfon will have another power upgrade: Goat-chan! :D
So he will have HB + Psyharden Katana + Goat-chan.
The Filth Monsters will pray to not meet him... :heh:

seiji_kun
2009-06-22, 15:33
Then if Layfon isn't interested in such a girl, (we never saw any interest on his side) that means it's over for Felli.

Yeah but that means it's over for all of them, cause I never saw any interest in any of them.

And if I'd follow that mindset, I think he actually would denie every girl like he did with Meishin. The guy just seemed to fucked up to consider a relationship.


Well, it wasn't Layfon who went to hug her. :) It was still one sided and Felli can't even say "oh sorry" when she touches Layfon's wound. That's like shooting yourself in the foot. :heh: Ultimately, it's nowhere close to other situations with other girls.

I wasn't talking about after Hiea's second fight with Layfon. More like if Felli would've been in Nina's situation it would've resulted the same way. It wasn't cause he loved Nina romantically, it was cause she was dear to him just like Felli is.


Of course, but here being a discussion forum, I'm just speaking my mind as to why I think Felli's chances are next to none. I'm not disrespecting any opinion but if I don't see sufficient basis to them, I'll point out so. That person then can defend their point of view if they can offer valid reasoning. I'll be happy to ponder the issue then.

Same here of course, but just like you don't see there beeing sufficient signs for the Felli - Layfon pairing having the upperhand. I don't see it for the others. And asking to list every reason that I find endorsing the Felli - Layfon pairing is just to much of a hassle tbh. So I'll try to show it in an other way.

- Mei took herself out of the game, such a fool!

- Nina didn't seemed really interested cause she didn't seem to be willing to pursue him. Personally I find them having the most platonic relationship of all since she came more across like a mother then a love candidate.

- Leerin, the biggest problem here is that I don't believe in letters and a long distance relationship. Hell I don't even know if he's romantically interested in her or just view her as a childhood friend or a sister.

- Felli: A tsundere that pursues him to no end. So heavely endorsed that even onii-sama asked what he was planning with his imoto. And like stated bye others, she's his owner.


Or as Occam's Razor proposes, he's just not interested. :heehee:

I won't lie that I am but it's not like I want to go to this extreme lengths to defend it like I've been doing till now. So I do hope this will soon come to a mutual understanding and I don't have to botter all to much anymore.

Btw I do want to add that you were right about the rolling credits, for some kind of reason I remembered it as the typical bonus scenes in a small box in the ED like I've witnessed in so many series / movies. Subconcious playing tricks on me I think, probably have to blame pot for it. Though changes nothing about my opinion.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-22, 16:07
Well, I have stated why I thought that way and pointed out what we saw from the scenes. I'd say that we interpret those events much differently and you people have inherent affection for Felli; so as I said before, where I have doubt, you have hope. ;)

None that happened warrants a wrap-up indeed and for all that we know, Layfon may even fall for someone that we haven't even seen yet. I'd not be surprised. In any case, Felli's relationship has the least chance among all the leads. (I'm considering Mei as supporting cast) Even with the strongest optimism, there's nothing on her side (Layfon's turning a blind eye to her jealousy streaks during whole series) while she has been rejected.

So I had my 2 cents on the matter and I'm not really bothered with whoever Layfon ends up with, so suit yourself. :)

seiji_kun
2009-06-22, 16:35
Well, I have stated why I thought that way and pointed out what we saw from the scenes. I'd say that we interpret those events much differently and you people have inherent affection for Felli; so as I said before, where I have doubt, you have hope. ;)

Jup we all have our different opinions. Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with inherent affection.


Felli's relationship has the least chance among all the leads. (I'm considering Mei as supporting cast) Even with the strongest optimism, there's nothing on her side (Layfon's turning a blind eye to her jealousy streaks during whole series) while she has been rejected.

Well disagree but already said my 2 cents on the matter enough.


So I had my 2 cents on the matter and I'm not really bothered with whoever Layfon ends up with, so suit yourself. :)

Here I thougth Nina would be your personal preference. And ends up with, I do hope you'll be right about that second season.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-22, 16:58
I like Nina as a character the way she is. She's got more important issues at hand and she acts like that. :nod: I've seen good characters ruined just due to romance before, ("I'm in love so let me fixate on that and slack my job while people die around me") so it may in fact be even better if their relationship stays that way.

cheshire
2009-06-22, 18:11
I don't really have anything constructive to say except that I still think Nina's in the lead (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) for the simple reason that Layfon's always "TAICHOU! TAICHOU!!" (insert dramatic tension there) around her or without, like a little puppy or a schoolboy with a crush. In other words, Layfon's doing all the chasing and Nina remains clueless for now. I'm not really an avid shipper, but for a show with harem qualities in it to have the lead guy obsess on a girl that's not your typical damsel in distress, is immensely amusing.

ricaryx
2009-06-22, 19:29
Don't forget Nina's mirage is the only one who appeared during Layfon's final attack and she was the last girl to send her thoughts to Layfon among the harem Meishen-->Felli-->Leerin.:blush:

I'm sad! I'm going to miss Regios. 10/10!

Foreshadow
2009-06-22, 19:39
From start to finish. I still have NO IDEA what is going on here:confused:.
Savaris did not deserve a Team Rocket exit. Good to know the entire trip Leerin made was just so that the katana could end up back at Grenden again.
This episode made me better at math, i just didn't like it:upset:

Face + Palm = Facepalm

Johnny
2009-06-23, 03:33
Good to know the entire trip Leerin made was just so that the katana could end up back at Grenden again.


After watching it again and reading your post I just realized it as well. Fits perfectly with how the last few episodes went...

Also noted that they gave that certain moment in the spotlight for the shippers. Nina doing her best impression of Patrick Swayze in "Ghost". Mei with her cute but "where the hell did that come from" Layfon plushy. Leerin chest bumping with Layfon. Finally Felli showing her love to Layfon with the mean kick to the shin. Although I had to chuckle at her mimicking what Layfon said to Leerin...

Like several posters above stated, it doesn't matter to me who he ends up with. I'd settle for a better explanation of things and more battle scenes. The Layfon/Savaris fight was pretty sad. I'd be pissed if I paid big bucks for ringside seats. Reminded me of the Mike Tyson vs Marvis Frazier fight, didn't even get past 1 min...

CybEssen
2009-06-23, 11:20
Face + Palm = Facepalm

This pretty much summarizes the last couple of episodes.

I forgot what I was watching until it cut to commercial and showed the logo.

Sinestra
2009-06-23, 14:01
Ugh i dont even know what to say except i kind of expected something like this from given last couple of episodes. It was not hateful but it was not good ending either if they plan on doing a 2nd season then maybe they felt this was a good place to stop. However it does not sit well for many of us and seems to have a left a bad taste in my mouth that scope and brushing have not been able to rid off. It seems everything is back to normal and the reconstruction of the city is underway other than that its like nothing happened at all.

Like i said not horrible but not great but i still bring myself to bash it all together there is really not much else to say.

7/10

capped
2009-06-23, 20:06
Face + Palm = FacepalmThis pretty much summarizes the last couple of episodes.

I forgot what I was watching until it cut to commercial and showed the logo.

Thank you! I was thinking I was the only one who felt that way.
I have to agree, the ending of this was rather blah. Even for a series with the harem still undecided.

KK1412
2009-06-23, 21:39
no kiss during the end...... a bit disappointing....so much harem goin on....


I expect to see a 2nd season of this,,,

AnimePhantom
2009-06-23, 22:38
Wow, from what little I have gathered from these 8 pages I feel compelled to watch the final episode and see what happens. I caught a few episodes here and there after I stopped watching back around episode 13 or so and I like what I saw, and while I may not go back and complete the series as a whole I definatly do want to see the final episode.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-23, 23:40
Then you certainly need to watch those you haven't, otherwise final ep would make no sense. It wouldn't be enjoyable without knowledge of what was going on. And it strayed from the original story, so it would seem much less coherent as stand alone.

Jimwhat
2009-06-23, 23:52
I'm still confused.

justinstrife
2009-06-24, 00:08
Felli got rejected because 1) she confessed at the worst moment possible where Fon-fon was still emo and blaming himself; 2) like others said, what she had offered were too overly devoted to point of willing to do anything and even die for him. But yea there's still chance for her and heck for any of the girls.


Btw, anyone wanted a replacement for CSR perhaps this would interest you,


iVql97Rxi2I

Got it from the Seiken No Blacksmith thread, the main male lead screams 'Layfon' all over him and also armed with a katana. ;) Not to mention a full set of hot chicks.

It'll air sometime this year I think.
Just want to say, my favorite already is Aria. :nod::nod:

Looking forward to that anime. Thank you for the head's up. :cool:

I'll be honest. Episode 24

sucked. I said it. The last few episodes have been spiraling downhill faster than water getting flushed down a toilet. I was completely bored, the fighting was laughable at best, the story is STILL a mess, we were lucky to get 5 seconds of screen time from the other HBers, Nina was a limp rag-doll that did nothing the entire episode, Savaris gets 1-hit KO'd, Layfon has to give back his HB-Katana Haxors sword, ugh...

So much potential in this story, and whether or not there's a second season, is immaterial. -facepalms-

The only redeeming quality, was it seems Layfon and Leering have come to an understanding, and when he's ready, he will come back to her and Grendan.

Dilla
2009-06-24, 00:43
Man, I hate it when a series that starts off so great ends so flat. It looks to me like that they forgot that the series only had twenty-four episodes and tried to squeeze everything in the last couple. I don't know if I would buy the DVDs if this ever got licensed.

Though, if there was ever a 2nd season I would watch in hopes of it gaining some sort of redemption.

Btw, anyone wanted a replacement for CSR perhaps this would interest you,


iVql97Rxi2I

Got it from the Seiken No Blacksmith thread, the main male lead screams 'Layfon' all over him and also armed with a katana. ;) Not to mention a full set of hot chicks.He also screams Renton Thurston in the face.:p

It looks sweet regardless. Thanks for the heads up!

tsunade666
2009-06-24, 01:39
If theirs a chance their will be a second season they really need to do their story.
They cut a lot, ignore a lot, and just scrapped and fix them all together to get a high rating
episode.

I wish for a better plot line. Even though it looks interesting its just all been cramped at a few
episode. No planning I think.

klare
2009-06-24, 03:17
just finished all, feel like not much is explained

I wish for a better plot line. Even though it looks interesting its just all been cramped at a few
episode. No planning I think.

thats what i think too, too bad the story is not written as well as the various interesting characters

i welcome second season if they can sort out all the holes in series, and yes i wanna see more of Nina :)

blewin
2009-06-24, 05:18
Man, I hate it when a series that starts off so great ends so flat. It looks to me like that they forgot that the series only had twenty-four episodes and tried to squeeze everything in the last couple. I don't know if I would buy the DVDs if this ever got licensed.

Though, if there was ever a 2nd season I would watch in hopes of it gaining some sort of redemption.

He also screams Renton Thurston in the face.:p

It looks sweet regardless. Thanks for the heads up!

that does look like a Renton. A cooler Renton though....

Renton (E7) + Shannon (Scrapped Princess) combined!

Looks like an interesting anime. Fantasy uh? Hope it's done well. Fantasy animes usually go down the drain coz of poor storyline and execution (and cliches). By the way, it's another light novel!

Ryu-kun
2009-06-25, 01:11
Well watching all 24 episodes all I know is love the fighting scenes since the story made no sense to me well it started to after reading the chinese novels (still sorta lost)

I kinda think the last episode made things worst unless they make a second season which they end (Being the beginning)

So overall I guess 7/10

Tyrone Biggums
2009-06-26, 09:26
Anyone know what show is taking over Regios' time slot?

Johnny
2009-06-26, 21:50
Anyone know what show is taking over Regios' time slot?

Unexplained Mysteries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexplained_Mysteries)...:heh:

Wargumm1i
2009-06-27, 01:16
I just watched episode 24, but I kept hearing something about a second season or another Regios will come... Whats that all about?

I also heard that at the end of episode 24 it was announced, but I only saw that a staff member died during the airing of the series or episode.

Spectacular_Insanity
2009-06-27, 03:59
Not the ending I was looking for, but not terrible, either. 8/10.

I'm looking very much forward to the second season. It can't come soon enough. I want to know more about the Heaven's Blade Receivers (other than Layfon).

nina-antalk
2009-06-27, 11:47
Can't believe it's over. :( Normally at this time i would search the RAW for the next episode.

lordxghostx
2009-06-27, 14:30
Well all things come to an end I guess, except that this one just decided to leave a bad taste in my mouth. Felt to me that this first season was more like laying the foundations for our understanding of the world of regios so that they can just pound on the fights in the next season, if there is one? :confused:

The start was decent to say the least, I spoiled myself abit by doing some research on it, but I felt that it flowed decently even without the spoilers. Basically main char comes in, gets forced to don a suit and goes back to his i-own-u-easily days. I think what make the real drop was the much awaited fight between Savaris and Layfon. I dont noe abt u guys, but I somewhere midway in the airing i felt a fight between savaris and layfon was inevitable, and had this feeling it was gonna be an epic match. As some1 pointed out earlier, maybe like a 'cloud versus sephiroth' battle. But lo and behold, the much awaited event arrives, fonfon gets beaten around abit, and just when playtime's over, Saya assists in the form of HB and Layfon ONEshots Savaris. :twitch:

Really... W-T-F? :frustrated:

Yea maybe Saya is poweroverwhelming and all... But still... Savaris, put up a fight will u? Or did the animators get all lazy or smth. Maybe thats y many of us feel disappointed. But if you look past the fight, it IS a decent anime overall. U got ur harem going on, a guy who has no clue, some pretty fights here and there. Its a decent ending to one I guess, every1 returns to their normal lives, Leerin with her studies, the rest with their work; Felli with her imbal scouting, nina/layfon with their mechanic work/training. Doesn't make sense to NOT have a 2nd season, particularly after all that dreams and whatnot the wolfmen keeps talking abt. Just my 2 cents. :)

Well, enough ranting, anyone noe of any animes that are close to this? Somehow I got into the mood to watch this type of anime recently (harems ftw?), would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks.

blewin
2009-06-28, 22:30
Yea maybe Saya is poweroverwhelming and all... But still... Savaris, put up a fight will u? Or did the animators get all lazy or smth. Maybe thats y many of us feel disappointed. But if you look past the fight, it IS a decent anime overall. U got ur harem going on, a guy who has no clue, some pretty fights here and there. Its a decent ending to one I guess, every1 returns to their normal lives, Leerin with her studies, the rest with their work; Felli with her imbal scouting, nina/layfon with their mechanic work/training. Doesn't make sense to NOT have a 2nd season, particularly after all that dreams and whatnot the wolfmen keeps talking abt. Just my 2 cents. :)


yeah, it is pretty decent. It started off with potential and just progressed worse and worse till the end. I doubt they'll make a 2nd season out of it, but you really don't know what they'd do these days... I was totally shocked at the news of Kuroshitsuji getting a 2nd season. With that kind of an ending (and the anime is worse than decent), there shouldn't be ANY sequels whatsoever.

ZODDGUTS
2009-06-30, 00:11
Was hoping that Nina would die, never liked her character not only is she annoying but she is weak as hell to be a captain. Maybe she'll resign as Captain and make Layton captain now that she knows she's pretty damn useless. :heh:


Anyways the final ep was decent for this series but yeah it felt really rushed like it needed an extra ep to clear certain things up. Overal the series was a decent but fun series to watch. 8/10

Ultramarinus
2009-06-30, 01:39
Thankfully the writer knows better so we get ultra-powered worthless moeblobs and decent characters with normal powers, something for everyone's taste. :rolleyes:

ZODDGUTS
2009-06-30, 02:35
She'll probably get pawned by a moe blob loli that you speak of since she's that weak. :p

If she really wants to really protect the city maybe she can become a security cop or a mall cop maybe she won't have to worry about getting her ass kicked and actually be useful for once thus stopping her from mopping around for being so lame and weak.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-30, 03:18
With pink needles? Yeah, right.. :rolleyes:

Not that power is worth crap by itself, but you're way off the mark even in that regard. Nina has beaten everybody except Vance whose power is apparent as he leads whole Czellni army. And we all know how the monsters can't be even dent by most of the military artists save for HB users.

shmaster
2009-06-30, 03:23
yeah, it is pretty decent. It started off with potential and just progressed worse and worse till the end. I doubt they'll make a 2nd season out of it, but you really don't know what they'd do these days... I was totally shocked at the news of Kuroshitsuji getting a 2nd season. With that kind of an ending (and the anime is worse than decent), there shouldn't be ANY sequels whatsoever.

The Black Butler is a different case. that is actually about selling to fan girls rather than making a decent show...... *suddenyl has a bad feeling about 07-Ghost too

...but that is away from the point. It'll really depends when well the fans get fed up, I think. May be it is just me, Regios is kinda getting over propagandized. There is already 3 seperate manga series going on for it, complete version of Legend anime being made, the third side story series beign written... etc etc. It feels like the franchise is over doing itself, and I doubt the readers outside the core fans is going to bother or have the energy to put up with all this. At worst, some casual fans might starting to get disgusted.

Tjaard
2009-06-30, 03:42
This is simple, Regios's anime was advertisement only for the new novels (the last novel and regios crusade), many novels' anime are so :heh:

Pradelus
2009-06-30, 21:51
This is simple, Regios's anime was advertisement only for the new novels (the last novel and regios crusade), many novels' anime are so :heh:

I can see it now!

Dixerio was far too interesting to be fully explained in the anime.

justinstrife
2009-06-30, 22:05
With pink needles? Yeah, right.. :rolleyes:

Not that power is worth crap by itself, but you're way off the mark even in that regard. Nina has beaten everybody except Vance whose power is apparent as he leads whole Czellni army. And we all know how the monsters can't be even dent by most of the military artists save for HB users.

Didn't she get her ass kicked by the captain of another squad awhile back?

One could only hope she wouldn't be in the second season, but unfortunately I know better than to hold my breath over the impossible.

Ultramarinus
2009-06-30, 22:56
With pink needles? Yeah, right.. :rolleyes:

Not that power is worth crap by itself, but you're way off the mark even in that regard. Nina has beaten everybody except Vance whose power is apparent as he leads whole Czellni army. And we all know how the monsters can't be even dent by most of the military artists save for HB users.
Didn't she get her ass kicked by the captain of another squad awhile back?

One could only hope she wouldn't be in the second season, but unfortunately I know better than to hold my breath over the impossible.
Your answer was there in what you replied to.

You have my sympathies though, I'd like the same for a certain other character.

justinstrife
2009-07-01, 00:02
Your answer was there in what you replied to.

You have my sympathies though, I'd like the same for a certain other character.

I'm neutral on Felli. I hardly notice her in the show so don't think I'm on her side. Infact I found her outright annoying while he was fighting the merc leader(I'm very very bad with names hence why I didn't get who you were referring to earlier).

Pradelus
2009-07-01, 03:41
Your answer was there in what you replied to.

You have my sympathies though, I'd like the same for a certain other character.

Well, technically she got her ass kicked by that one captain who saved her in the last Intercity match.
With the intervention with Layfon however, you can call it what you want. :p

Ultramarinus
2009-07-01, 04:58
I'm neutral on Felli. I hardly notice her in the show so don't think I'm on her side. Infact I found her outright annoying while he was fighting the merc leader(I'm very very bad with names hence why I didn't get who you were referring to earlier).
That wasn't a comment to get on your nerves.
Well, technically she got her ass kicked by that one captain who saved her in the last Intercity match.
With the intervention with Layfon however, you can call it what you want. :p
It wasn't over yet and the rest of the platoon was playing brain-dead in that particular match. Did we see anyone except Layfon soloing whole platoons? I don't see why people assume that a character can either be god-like or weak and not something out of tons of levels of power in between. It should be common knowledge.

Pradelus
2009-07-01, 07:18
It wasn't over yet and the rest of the platoon was playing brain-dead in that particular match. Did we see anyone except Layfon soloing whole platoons? I don't see why people assume that a character can either be god-like or weak and not something out of tons of levels of power in between. It should be common knowledge.

I take that comment back. Your right, it wasn't over. But if it wasn't for Layfon.. :p

justinstrife
2009-07-01, 10:40
That wasn't a comment to get on your nerves.

It wasn't over yet and the rest of the platoon was playing brain-dead in that particular match. Did we see anyone except Layfon soloing whole platoons? I don't see why people assume that a character can either be god-like or weak and not something out of tons of levels of power in between. It should be common knowledge.

She wasn't beating the captain regardless.

And if you're captain of a platoon, it should be common knowledge you'd take on the grunts as if it were nothing(as long as said Grunts are not main characters). This is Anime rule # 305 here.

Ultramarinus
2009-07-01, 11:33
It seems that you have forgotten the fight in second episode, they were tag-teaming her with 3 people including the captain while Layfon was loitering around, thinking "it's okay if I lose, right?" and Felli not answering that thought on purpose. Only Sharnid lent her a hand while she was surrounded, outnumbered. She had spent most of her energy defeating others (1vs3 is multiple times harder than 1vs1 + 1vs1 + 1vs1) by the time they remained one to one with the captain, who was at one time, her captain.

In any case, she continued her quest to get stronger and was beating up everyone except Vance (who's told to be the army commander and leader of the first squad precisely because he's 'that' good) she encountered, including wolf-mask fellows who apparently are confident enough to invade Grendan.

As much as power categories for Regios go, she's among the strongest of her class, that being academy city martial artists. I suppose you don't expect her to beat HB users or solo dragons?
I take that comment back. Your right, it wasn't over. But if it wasn't for Layfon.. :p
Just food for thought: If it wasn't for Layfon, they'd find someone not losing on purpose and they could fight on more of an equal ground from the start. Of course that wouldn't make the show's story. :eyespin:

justinstrife
2009-07-01, 20:06
The only way Nina has a prayer on beating HB users or dragons, is with the help of Goat-chan. She's not even in the same planet as them power/strength wise.

A captain vs obvious grunts, is hardly using your energy. If she was spending her energy in order to defeat them, she's not that strong. Again, anime rule 305.

A black, red, brown belt would have no problem taking out 3 white/yellow/green belts solo. At least at a serious dojo.

Lets face it ultra. You love Nina, and will do anything to pump her up. I hate her, and will do anything to rip her apart. We can never see eye to eye about her character. Ever.

Ultramarinus
2009-07-01, 21:37
The thing is that, because you're doing everything to rip her apart, I'm merely dissecting those efforts and showing how baseless they are. Do you see me pumping her up out of nowhere in these last couple pages? No. Someone comes along, does a hate speech and I shoot it down, then you join in with your part of hate speech. It's only because there's not even an argument behind it, I feel obliged to point out to the futility of them. A character's power means nothing to determine the value of it but still, there are way too much senseless claims going on to ignore.

This I say because it's so obvious:
As much as power categories for Regios go, she's among the strongest of her class, that being academy city martial artists. I suppose you don't expect her to beat HB users or solo dragons?
The only way Nina has a prayer on beating HB users or dragons, is with the help of Goat-chan. She's not even in the same planet as them power/strength wise.
You understood COMPLETELY the opposite of what I was saying. Maybe you read it too fast as it seems to be a hasty reaction.

I regard common sense as a higher authority than anime rules, but let's entertain your viewpoint for once: Exactly in anime which has chakra/reiatsu/kei/whatever magic-like thingy, people lose them temporarily as they spend it. It's not infinite and it doesn't recover without rest. And behold: Regios kei is exactly like that! See: Layfon, Nina, Felli recovering in hospital after getting exhausted by heavy use of kei. And this kei thingy is used whether or not your opponent is powerful, (for defense as well, you can't take it in the guts) even if there isn't an opponent to begin with. (falling to hospital bed just acting as a cell-phone, talk about weak! :rolleyes:) Layfon uses it all the time against any and all, including those same grunts. That Layfon who one-shot Savaris! True story.

The thing is that, her former captain isn't a newbie, he was leading a team back then when Nina was a grunt. You seem to have distributed the belts to your convenience. Considering that it was 3 to 1 and Nina wasn't at the height of her power back at ep 2, it was just the way it should have been. She got stronger during the next 15 eps and I think the order of things should be clear for the people who watched them all.

Another derail it seems, I thought it'd be over as the season ended. Oh well.. :heh:

justinstrife
2009-07-01, 21:57
As much as power categories for Regios go, she's among the strongest of her class, that being academy city martial artists. I suppose you don't expect her to beat HB users or solo dragons?

This part has been bugging me. You know this how exactly?

And since you have brought up kei as such a big factor in Regios, would you then say she doesn't have a lot of it?

Slick_rick
2009-07-01, 22:46
This part has been bugging me. You know this how exactly?

And since you have brought up kei as such a big factor in Regios, would you then say she doesn't have a lot of it?

Well this is something we can assume from how people talk about her and how she fights. Sharnid says he never seen anyone block that attack when she was fighting with Layfon. She's is put in charge of a few platoons that fights the FM when they attack. She's fights against multiple opponents during the matches usually. When the masked men attack her with Dixerio he was surprised when she was able to easily dispatch a few. It's pretty safe to assume that's she well above average for the normal student there.

We don't have much basis to guess on how her Kei. Certainly she isn't going to be on the level on the HB users. The only basis we have is when fighting against the other captain in the match he was surprised she still had that amount of Kei to attack him with. Also when Layfon and his friends saw her training they were admiring her Kei.

I mean I know she's not as strong or has much kei as Naruki, the traffic cop, but seriously get a grip.:heh:

justinstrife
2009-07-01, 23:08
Well this is something we can assume from how people talk about her and how she fights. Sharnid says he never seen anyone block that attack when she was fighting with Layfon. She's is put in charge of a few platoons that fights the FM when they attack. She's fights against multiple opponents during the matches usually. When the masked men attack her with Dixerio he was surprised when she was able to easily dispatch a few. It's pretty safe to assume that's she well above average for the normal student there.

We don't have much basis to guess on how her Kei. Certainly she isn't going to be on the level on the HB users. The only basis we have is when fighting against the other captain in the match he was surprised she still had that amount of Kei to attack him with. Also when Layfon and his friends saw her training they were admiring her Kei.

I mean I know she's not as strong or has much kei as Naruki, the traffic cop, but seriously get a grip.:heh:

WTF? Where the hell did that come from? -facepalms- When did I mention Naruki in all of this?

Sure she's my favorite character in the story, but she's so far below 95% of the characters in the story it's not even funny.

Slick_rick
2009-07-01, 23:20
WTF? Where the hell did that come from? -facepalms- When did I mention Naruki in all of this?

Sure she's my favorite character in the story, but she's so far below 95% of the characters in the story it's not even funny.

It's a joke. You seem to want to use this perceived weakness of Nina to demean her character I was just throwing it back at you. I'd like Nina even if she was weak but I certainly don't think she is. Not on HB level but no one claimed that she was.

Ultramarinus
2009-07-02, 04:05
I couldn't put it any better than Rick's last two messages, excellent explanation and just what I'm thinking about Nina's power and the irrelevancy of character powers when evaluating characters themselves.

Still Justin, it's good to know that we have something in common: I like Naruki a lot as well. I would say she's my second favorite character in the show.

satomianzaki
2009-07-02, 10:28
regarding nina's strength, although some may still call her weak, i think she's really in the right path of getting stronger...even dixerio acknowledges her improvement in the use of kei on episode 19...

she may not be as strong as the others now but she has lots of potential of getting stronger in the future...and if haikizoku will continually lend it's power, now that will really heighten nina's strength...given that she will be able to control and use it properly...

really miss watching new episodes of csr...hope there will be some news of another season...

:)

slaker
2009-07-07, 23:39
what version of Yasashii Uso was it in the beginning of the episode

klare
2009-07-09, 02:36
i believe it was sang by 2 lady voices

is like a fast forward to end the whole thing, but actually nothing much is solved or explained... seems like everybody back to the life of the first few episodes

the final fight of Layfon or the HB are not good

~A~
2009-07-14, 19:03
Theres gonna be a second season?? i hope so they havent won a intercity battle thing yet and HOLY MOTHER **** on the skateboard part XDDDD freaking fused the 2 swords o.O to make a flying board

ShadowVlican
2009-07-16, 11:54
what a horribly rushed last eps... i certainly hope there's more to it than this (no i don't read the novels and don't plan to)

strategos
2009-07-19, 16:00
Still haven't seen the series. But I would like to know. Any chance this series jump to another season?

Ultramarinus
2009-07-19, 17:41
There's a chance and there's also potential, since they left it pretty much open-ended.

tempest3991
2009-07-28, 01:20
Wellllll that was a waste of about 480 minutes of my life.

Lets have an anime where we explain absolutely nothing.

We'll have a guy named layfon who every girl is apparently in love with (how original)

We'll have a girl as the captain who wants strength but never gets it (wow, more original)

We'll have a girl completely in love with the lead who can't even speak when she's near him (really reaching for originality)

We'll start off with fights......then in the last 6 episodes we'll ditch fighting and turn everything into balls of light......that way we save money

We'll have bad guys finished in one blow (so close to being original)

Then lets have these things called heavens blades and they will play absolutely no role in the anime.....but the whole anime will be about them. Just to make sure they get some screen time, we'll throw them in the last 5 minutes of the whole show and they are fighting and all happy go lucky in their flashes of light.

Don't forget, there's another dimension? Its invading us? A guy named Dix is here to save...kill...save..kill us?

Beware of golden goats.........because i have absolutely no idea what they will do for you. Sometimes it wants to protect the city by fighting ur friends? Or it'll possess ur captain and she'll want to...attack you? Or it'll possess another random guy and he'll go all super saijan brolly on you?

And hey.......everyone else in the show can fly........why can't layfon? oh wait, he can........and he does throughout the whole show.........cept in the last episode he decides he needs to use his sword as a surf board.....that will make more sense.

Geeze.....It started off with so much promise....kinda reminded me of fafner...but became a total waste of time.....

I think this series forgot what it was trying to accomplish, then tried to fit it all in withing the last episode....but forgot to explain to us.

ok, my rants done :)

Wargumm1i
2009-10-18, 20:49
Wow this thread hasent bin active in a while and yeah, since there isint any anime related thread for Chrome Shelled Regios, I just decided too post in this one.

Its highly possible for a second season too come, I just read this and just had too post it.

"At the season finale, many of the plots within the story remain unresolved, suggesting a possible continuation of the series. Tamayaki suggested that another season is set for 2010."

You can also see here, even though its not much it still shows that there is something going on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zexcs

Ultramarinus
2009-10-19, 15:20
That's good to hear, let's hope that there'll be enough material to go through without any fillers by then.

azarhal
2009-10-19, 16:53
Considering how they ended "season 1", they can only go with filler now.

They should have stick to the story and end the season with the "war" with Mayath(sp?).

blewin
2009-10-19, 23:49
another season? That's fabulous news! I'm sure they'll manage to work the novel material in there somehow. It'd be madness not to use the original materials and piss off the new novel readers the show has gained.

kamikazex
2009-12-24, 07:13
just finished watching it overall a great series. heres hoping for a season 2!

MasterLuke
2009-12-25, 11:08
7 because many things aren't explained

it means there will be a 2nd season