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Genre: Comedy, Slice of Life, Supernatural
Author/Artist: Hamada Yoshikazu
Synopsis:
Kazuya Kagami never goes anywhere without the precious “Sakura Obi” his mother gave him. One day a beautiful, kimono-clad girl named Kiriha appeared before him. Kiriha naturally began to live with Kazuya in his room. Then there’s Chisato, Kazuya’s childhood friend with glasses and a ponytail, who meddles in his affairs. Soon there’s also an overprotective older sister who seems to want to take baths with him. Jumble in a huge-chested priestess, a good-looking sorceress named Kokuyoura, beautiful women, and hot girls, and Kazuya’s happy, embarrassing, confusing life begins…
So I randomly clicked on the 6th chapter, not ever hearing about this before nor did I read the synopsis, and saw the title page(which was Kazuya using two hands to arm wrestle Kiriha), loved the art and Kiriha's evil-like grin and thought it might be amusing to read, so I read that chapter. And I absolutely LOVED it!! Kazuya is rather plain, but with Kiriha around, I completely forget that fact. She's a blast to watch and has an awesome personality. The way the translation group translated her speech style was very well done. And that grin she has is cute in a feisty way.
Even though at that time, I didn't know what the heck was going on, that lil' fight between that priestess and Kiriha was great to see. They both looked totally hot in those gym clothes and the fight itself was very nicely drawn.
And I see that you guys were talking about it briefly in the Kannagi thread. You lazy bums, how could you NOT make a thread about this and enlighten me sooner :(?
Bonta Kun
2010-06-10, 11:31
And I see that you guys were talking about it briefly in the Kannagi thread. You lazy bums, how could you NOT make a thread about this and enlighten me sooner :(?
lol you said it yourself
You lazy bums
I picked this up ages ago but since it was slow going, it kinda fell off my radar and I did feel like making a thread back then but like with most of the stuff I read I just really can't be arsed:p
I do prefer this more than Kannagi, ch 6 sealed the deal with Chisa's moves:heh:
also Pany Pillow ftw!
ZODDGUTS
2010-06-10, 19:06
Very good series I'm loving it. Been following the latest raw releases on the official website which you can view for free:
http://comichigh.jp/
Shame that this series has slow scanlation releases hopefully it picks up.
Kiriha sure loves to step and squeeze Kazuya's balls. :heh:
It was interesting for me until
She shrunk and became a super loli.
ZODDGUTS
2010-06-11, 12:32
It was interesting for me until
She shrunk and became a super loli.
Good news she grows back to her current self. Seems to be related to how close they get together or on how stronger he gets or something like that.
Much further developmentWe seen her fully grown up look with a certain somebody.
She did? Really? Did it happen in the most recent raw? Coz I have been browsing through them some time ago and she was still like that when I read it. XD
ZODDGUTS
2010-06-11, 23:35
Yeah it happens in chapter 20 something.
lol, only 6 posts for this good manga...
I like this one, a rather underground manga which not much poeple know of. the arts is superb for my liking and I like the story.
chapter 30 marks the end of Kazuya's battle with that girl, I dislike the girl for what she did, smacking Kazuya out of nowhere when they first met.
Gladly, Kazuya beat the crap out of this girl in chapter 30, HAH! He really should've break the damn katana and smack that girl's face just like what she did to him ;D
He had the chance to did just that with chikara obi :p
ZODDGUTS
2011-01-20, 09:27
lol, only 6 posts for this good manga...
I like this one, a rather underground manga which not much poeple know of. the arts is superb for my liking and I like the story.
chapter 30 marks the end of Kazuya's battle with that girl, I dislike the girl for what she did, smacking Kazuya out of nowhere when they first met.
Gladly, Kazuya beat the crap out of this girl in chapter 30, HAH! He really should've break the damn katana and smack that girl's face just like what she did to him ;D
He had the chance to did just that with chikara obi :p
Heh trust me she gets her's soon enough. Ch 32 will have you. :D
http://comichigh.jp/
Master Assassin
2012-07-13, 07:58
Currently re-reading translated chapters.
Damn, I can't get enough of this, not ever since Hakoiri Devil Musume ended :T_T:
Master Assassin
2012-09-06, 23:13
Reading through chapters 45~50 in Comic High's website...
... damn, the MC looks cute as a girl.
Here's the MC and his genderbended self as part of the mangaka's illustration for the 9th volume in his series (yes we are that far behind):
http://i.imgur.com/LDZTBl.jpg (http://imgur.com/LDZTB)
... Seems with the recent chapters available online the MC's plausibility as a female is getting stronger... even though it's just in some sort of a dream realm where everyone gets genderbended (Kiriha becomes a perverted bishounen)...
...
... Genderbend!MC... violated by Genderbend!Kiriha... while in dream realm... O_O;;
I WA SHOCK!
OMG where have this manga been all my life? Everything about this series is awesome. The MC isn't a complete beta and yet still respectable to the girls. Also there isn't any blue balls involved and the MC actually gets sexually relieved by the girls.
Iron Maw
2014-07-01, 14:28
Currently re-reading translated chapters.
That's pretty much what I'm doing now, since I would be damned if I remember where I left off (I think it's been around 3 years :heh:}. I did like what I read of this quite a bit, but keeping up with releases became a problem awhile back.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2014-07-02, 18:21
Heh trust me she gets her's soon enough. Ch 32 will have you. :D
http://comichigh.jp/
I'm good with knowing what happens please.
Somethindarker
2014-07-02, 20:49
I'm good with knowing what happens please.
Dude the chapters have been translated up til 55+ you just gotta know where to look. 36 + like 10 ova's have been translated officially, the others are raws+translations.
edit; please refrain from posting spoilers here, private messages are ok.
Dude the chapters have been translated up til 55+ you just gotta know where to look. 36 + like 10 ova's have been translated officially, the others are raws+translations.
edit; please refrain from posting spoilers here, private messages are ok.
so.....mind telling where to find these translated chapters?
Somethindarker
2014-07-03, 03:01
so.....mind telling where to find these translated chapters?
It took me less than 2 minutes to find the translations on google. Unless the translator wants to come here and post his link, I won't. The only hint I'll give is look for a google drive account.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2014-07-22, 01:59
Well, talk about taking reaping what you sew to a another level :S;;
Is it a harem or not? Because my desire to read this is very depended on the answer.
Somethindarker
2014-07-22, 05:26
It's a "harem" you might say but the MC is Alpha as fuck and the traditional dense shonen doesn't really apply to him. Also the art is amazing the artist really knows what a body in motion looks like and just reading a fight can be a real feast for the eyes. There's a chapter where it's explained why character doesn't choose a girl and it's hilarious. Also in this story the character has don't read ahead is u don't wanna get spoiled or "offended";
been jerked off, he's facialed a girl multple times, played with their tits, fingered most of them and straight up implied penetrated one.
This manga isn't for the kind of people that wants girls to be pure and innocent like chu2, kanata or pretty much anything Kyoani slings.
darkofficer
2014-07-25, 05:55
Well the latest translated chapters where quite fun. And that mother is scary as fuck.
kirasama
2014-11-17, 18:31
just started Reading ... this manga is amazing !!! so much fun !
i can't understand how there is no talk about a anime for this manga...are the characters too young and there is too much erotism maybe?
Somethindarker
2015-02-24, 06:56
Go to the author's stream, it's fun to watch him draw the manga live. He's talked about what voice actors he'd want to play what characters and he's said he's hopeful about an anime someday.
Oh really, cool.
Anyway after the latest chapters is obvious.
Too much erotism, they should censor like 50% of the manga for a tv viewing.
They could tone down the fan service but is good because the author brings it to the borderline and then breaks it without mercy.
But I still hope in one.
Somethindarker
2015-03-23, 14:36
Oh really, cool.
Anyway after the latest chapters is obvious.
Too much erotism, they should censor like 50% of the manga for a tv viewing.
They could tone down the fan service but is good because the author brings it to the borderline and then breaks it without mercy.
But I still hope in one.
They'd probably just censor the shit out of it and make their real bones through blueray. Harder shit has been animated but I personally don't want an anime the manga is good as is.
Dart-Sama
2015-09-20, 11:01
nop anymore, last translated chap was clearly borderline hentai xD, i mean, lip spreading?? yummy but still to much for a non-H serie
imbuement
2015-11-02, 08:54
add 2 more tag, and chap 79 avail online to read... yay...
Dart-Sama
2015-12-07, 19:02
ok, a bunch of conjeture about kanaka's fall is up from the latest batch of translated chapts.
i think this is exactly what that fallen god that afected her and her son wanted, perhaps hes trying to create a vessel for himself? i mean, the corrosing of her soul was lead right? it should be this god that wasnt destroyed and is laying low within her or first was in her son and then made fusion of amasogi and the dark obi, then took over her, dunno, something like that.
I've just binge read the whole series up to 85.... boy did I choose the wrong time to do so. The wait will kill me.
Random Wanderer
2016-09-10, 03:23
If they do not find a way to revive Kiriha and Kukuri, I am going to track the author down and drive hot needles under their toenails. :mad:
James Rye
2016-09-10, 04:30
I doubt two of the most important female characters gonna stay dead for the rest of the series, although I would rather salute the author if he does pull it off and keeps the "dead means dead" route and does not revive both of them. Heck, most authors got problems with killing a side side side character off. xD
Well, ofc there are people like G.R. Martin who kill a dozen characters for breakfast in their books, but still, the norm doesn't kill off characters for good.
Fwarlord
2016-09-10, 05:20
I also think Kiriha and Kukuri will likely be revived, but since we have best girl Kyouka now, their revival could be postponed until the epilogue, when Kazuya and Kyouka's son discovers Kiriha being hidden in the warehouse, then goes to the temple to meet Kukuri and start a new tale.
Random Wanderer
2016-09-10, 10:37
best girl Kyouka
This can be debated. Not that I object to Kazuya and Kyouka being together, because I like her. But Kiriha has been my favorite for pretty much the entire series, and if she and Kazuya are never able to reunite it will just be far too sad.
Best girl Kyouka? Best girl is Sunao of course~
James Rye
2016-09-10, 17:43
Sunao best girl indeed.
Somethindarker
2016-09-10, 18:01
Looks like it's getting an anime. Well shit I hope it's not Isuca levels of garbage if it's any good I might watch it, it the MC get's a female VA then I ain't gonna even pick it up.
edit; Sunao=bestgirl it's not even a competition.
Chosen_Hero
2016-09-10, 18:18
If they do not find a way to revive Kiriha and Kukuri, I am going to track the author down and drive hot needles under their toenails. :mad:
As much as I like them, I rather the mangaka keeps them dead because if they do come back it will contradict the other deaths we've learned about so far and make it look like they returned only because of preference towards the MC. Besides, their deaths are his motivation, if they cone back then all of this will end up being an unnecessary detour/excuse just to "power him up".
Random Wanderer
2016-09-10, 18:56
As much as I like them, I rather the mangaka keeps them dead because if they do come back it will contradict the other deaths we've learned about so far and make it look like they returned only because of preference towards the MC. Besides, their deaths are his motivation, if they cone back then all of this will end up being an unnecessary detour/excuse just to "power him up".
...You think this entire series isn't about preference towards Kazuya? Him finding a way to bring them back because he's the main character and because he's willing to try something no one has ever tried before would be exactly the sort of thing a series like this does.
Chosen_Hero
2016-09-10, 19:51
...You think this entire series isn't about preference towards Kazuya? Him finding a way to bring them back because he's the main character and because he's willing to try something no one has ever tried before would be exactly the sort of thing a series like this does.
So because other series do it, this one also has to do it? Try telling that to the other characters in the series that had important peopel die and have possibly tried and begged for a way to do so. Also, when the gods themselves tell you that there is no way to bring someone back (and as we have seen a god die the same way a Kukuri in the past and also seen Tsugumomo die the same way as Kiriha) that should be a pretty big clue as to how the world is structured. What I like about this series is that so far it is consistent unlike the likes of DBZ and those other series afraid to commit to something and just pull off bs after bs.
Random Wanderer
2016-09-10, 20:25
:eyebrow: This series has not been above admitting that the people who state certain things as an absolute rule are not always right.
For example, by the current rules Kyouka should be "dead." She ran out of power and returned to her object form: all other tsukumogami who that has happened to are treated as dead. After the collapse of Mayoiga, Honoka even spoke as if the only ones who could be saved were the ones who hadn't run out of power yet. The whole mess in recent chapters proves that she was not owned by Kazuya, so she could not have been receiving power normally from him. Yet we can plainly see her, revived and alive, at the present time.
The rules of the world are only "rules" in as much as they are the way things have always worked in the past. The very nature of this kind of story, these kinds of characters, is to first show us the "rules," and then push and bend and break them so we can be amazed. They have already been doing that by degrees over the course of the story, and I have every reason to belive it will continue, and become more extreme as things go forward.
And that is why I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt and not just fly over to Japan, track him down, and punch him in the face right now.
Chosen_Hero
2016-09-10, 21:35
:eyebrow: This series has not been above admitting that the people who state certain things as an absolute rule are not always right.
For example, by the current rules Kyouka should be "dead." She ran out of power and returned to her object form: all other tsukumogami who that has happened to are treated as dead. After the collapse of Mayoiga, Honoka even spoke as if the only ones who could be saved were the ones who hadn't run out of power yet. The whole mess in recent chapters proves that she was not owned by Kazuya, so she could not have been receiving power normally from him. Yet we can plainly see her, revived and alive, at the present time.
The rules of the world are only "rules" in as much as they are the way things have always worked in the past. The very nature of this kind of story, these kinds of characters, is to first show us the "rules," and then push and bend and break them so we can be amazed. They have already been doing that by degrees over the course of the story, and I have every reason to belive it will continue, and become more extreme as things go forward.
And that is why I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt and not just fly over to Japan, track him down, and punch him in the face right now.
Running out of energy =/= being dead, it's just that they lost their ability due to use their powers and transform. The only time they are truly dead is when they are destroyed (remember that the instrument they come from is their real body and if that is destroyed any kind of ability to absorb energy dissapears, if not they can still absorb said energy), yes they are treated like they died but that is because to them not having their consciousness is similar to being dead not truly dead, think of it likw being in a coma. But as we saw, if someone with the ability or the power to share their energy or in this case are born with the ability to create them at will and have advanced control over their power they help (<- keyword) them restore their powers and abilities, why else would Kukuri give a "dead" (as you say) tsugumomo to him and tell him to hold on to the flute and that she can return? Easy, it was never stated that losing your energy = true death, just that it was like being dead (a.k.a. like being in a coma).
Somethindarker
2016-09-11, 00:34
The entire point of the current arc is Kazuya finding a way to control his power and bring Kiriha back, I'm not 100% sure about Kukuri(who am I kidding she'll probably come back too) but Kiriha coming back in some capacity is pretty much guaranteed.
Fwarlord
2016-09-11, 00:57
The entire point of the current arc is Kazuya finding a way to control his power and bring Kiriha back, I'm not 100% sure about Kukuri(who am I kidding she'll probably come back too) but Kiriha coming back in some capacity is pretty much guaranteed.
Why bringing Kiriha back now? Her death is his motivation and turning point in this arc, bringing her back now is just too soon. Beside, the entire point of this arc is more likely Kazuya developing a trusting partnership with Kyouka and learning to control his new power.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2016-09-11, 00:57
Sorry for the slight topic change, but this just happened: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-11/yoshikazu-hamada-tsugumomo-romantic-comedy-manga-gets-anime/.106323
Random Wanderer
2016-09-11, 02:46
Why bringing Kiriha back now? Her death is his motivation and turning point in this arc, bringing her back now is just too soon. Beside, the entire point of this arc is more likely Kazuya developing a trusting partnership with Kyouka and learning to control his new power.
I believe learning how to do it is going to be a process, not an epiphany. Basically, what he's doing here, and what he will do here, will begin to teach he what he need to know to revive her. That doesn't mean she's going to come back right away, or even particularly soon; it just means that he's on a path that takes him towards the destination of bringing her back.
Sorry for the slight topic change, but this just happened: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-11/yoshikazu-hamada-tsugumomo-romantic-comedy-manga-gets-anime/.106323
They're late! We've known that for two days! (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=144987)
James Rye
2016-09-11, 04:18
Sorry for the slight topic change, but this just happened: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-11/yoshikazu-hamada-tsugumomo-romantic-comedy-manga-gets-anime/.106323
This anime will have the most sunrays of all ecchin animes ever. Like we should make a sunray counter or censor counter just to see if we can top 100 censors in a single episode. xD
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2016-09-11, 10:48
This anime will have the most sunrays of all ecchin animes ever. Like we should make a sunray counter or censor counter just to see if we can top 100 censors in a single episode. xD
Remind us not to play any drinking games with this series. We'd probably drown taking shots of all the light beams this series will probably have^^;;.
Um.
Did I miss something? Because it was straight up said that Kiriha wasn't dead and he could bring her back.
Random Wanderer
2016-09-11, 11:35
Um.
Did I miss something? Because it was straight up said that Kiriha wasn't dead and he could bring her back.
You'll have to reference that for me, because I didn't catch it. She was stated pretty plainly to be dead.
Right after he found out about it.
"So, she got wrecked, but if you keep her close and pour your spiritual energy into her, she might revive."
James Rye
2016-09-11, 12:27
But wasn't that only if her vessel is still intact which it isn't as she got ripped to pieces?
Random Wanderer
2016-09-11, 14:43
Right after he found out about it.
"So, she got wrecked, but if you keep her close and pour your spiritual energy into her, she might revive."
That was what was said about Kyouka. However, Kazuya re-discovered Kiriha's death in chapter 71, and after some lead up he was simply presented with a box filled with her fragments. After which the scene cut to him in bed, holding a wrapped bundle with Kiriha's remains in it, and crying. When the head exorcist came to talk to him after that she made no mention of the possibility of saving Kiriha. Discussions while he was not present stated clearly that she died, as well.
Blueknight78
2016-09-11, 21:59
man when i really love this manga to be honest i probably not gonna like the anime, because they gonna butcher it like crazy, this manga really can't be "adapted" in his true form to anime, if the masou gakuen was "capped" this one gonna be too for sure, like someone told most of the episodes will be probably we fighting with light beams for 90% of the episde :heh::heh: like basically they only gonna allow we see eyes and even that can be "dangerous" :heh::heh::heh:, this manga is really one of the most boderline hentai which i know and see the anime being butchered to be able to pass in tv will gonna be painfull.
Random Wanderer
2016-09-11, 22:45
man when i really love this manga to be honest i probably not gonna like the anime, because they gonna butcher it like crazy, this manga really can't be "adapted" in his true form to anime, if the masou gakuen was "capped" this one gonna be too for sure, like someone told most of the episodes will be probably we fighting with light beams for 90% of the episde :heh::heh: like basically they only gonna allow we see eyes and even that can be "dangerous" :heh::heh::heh:, this manga is really one of the most boderline hentai which i know and see the anime being butchered to be able to pass in tv will gonna be painfull.
The ecchi content is not as significant, and not onscreen as often, in the earlier parts of the manga as it is later on. Depending on how far they adapt up to it may not need as much censoring as you think.
Note "as much." I don't think there's any way this can get through with zero censoring.
Blueknight78
2016-09-11, 23:04
The ecchi content is not as significant, and not onscreen as often, in the earlier parts of the manga as it is later on. Depending on how far they adapt up to it may not need as much censoring as you think.
Note "as much." I don't think there's any way this can get through with zero censoring.
yeah i remember, in the beginner this mangas was very tamed but i don't recall now exactly but more like after 10 or something like that chapters things startet to scale pretty ridiculous with the level of ecchi increasing in a freaking way, going from something like shokugeki no soma , to fair tail level then to to lovu ru near porn to surprassing it and going very near hentai(some chapters sometimes even make doubt why they don't already classified it as hentai the way of some chapters goes too :eyespin::eyespin::eyespin: wild!!.
well i hope the chapters it get to animate don't need too much butcher and we can have a good show and not a mediocre show like we are getting with most of the harems nowadays we really more "refreshing" and less stupid material and that is one of the few which is not so "generic" and actually good ( at last in my eyes and not just for the ecchi but also the plot and storytelly).
we really are in need of good harems the amount of bad ones already pilled too much.
Somethindarker
2016-09-12, 07:31
That was what was said about Kyouka. However, Kazuya re-discovered Kiriha's death in chapter 71, and after some lead up he was simply presented with a box filled with her fragments. After which the scene cut to him in bed, holding a wrapped bundle with Kiriha's remains in it, and crying. When the head exorcist came to talk to him after that she made no mention of the possibility of saving Kiriha. Discussions while he was not present stated clearly that she died, as well.
Doesn't change the fact that Kazuya has probably the most hax powers in the series and he will revive Kiriha, and probably Kukuri too. There's a reason the time sphere thing encompassed the entire battleground because Kazuya will probably save them all when he really powers up. As of now Kiriha is dead but Kazuya has the power to restore dead/dormant Tsukumogami's and create new ones out of thin air, it's not that much of a stretch to assume that Kazuya will figure out a way to bring Kiriha back.
It's not like popular opinion has been wrong before, amarite?
Why bringing Kiriha back now? Her death is his motivation and turning point in this arc, bringing her back now is just too soon. Beside, the entire point of this arc is more likely Kazuya developing a trusting partnership with Kyouka and learning to control his new power.
Of course her death is motivation for Kazuya but the way this story is going I doubt she'll stay dead.
just read up to chapter 24. i liked how they played that memory game with ecchi rewards. will more stuff like that happen? it seems the only time the series into "daring" situations is when another man is doing the seducing. is there no hope for MC like in other series or will we get most of our ecchi scenes by outside parties?
on a side note, with all these monsters. please tell me a tentacle monster comes into play later on >.<. that has to be a given.
Somethindarker
2016-10-20, 02:32
just read up to chapter 24. i liked how they played that memory game with ecchi rewards. will more stuff like that happen? it seems the only time the series into "daring" situations is when another man is doing the seducing. is there no hope for MC like in other series or will we get most of our ecchi scenes by outside parties?
on a side note, with all these monsters. please tell me a tentacle monster comes into play later on >.<. that has to be a given.
The other god they played the game with is also a girl. Kazuya pretty much does everything but penetration, though there's implied penetration(on himself), but the memory game is pretty tame compared to some of the others.
oh what... that makes it all the more hotter lol. i thought that god was a guy, but a god that's trying to get at other women is definitely a god i'd prey too.
if that game was tame, i can't wait to see what lies ahead.
this series started before the "new tokyo law" iirc that's what it was called.
it didn't effect the series and get toned down later on did it? as in less loli nudity and no more showing of nipples?
Somethindarker
2016-10-20, 03:24
oh what... that makes it all the more hotter lol. i thought that god was a guy, but a god that's trying to get at other women is definitely a god i'd prey too.
if that game was tame, i can't wait to see what lies ahead.
this series started before the "new tokyo law" iirc that's what it was called.
it didn't effect the series and get toned down later on did it? as in less loli nudity and no more showing of nipples?
I'm not familiar with the new law but if memory serves it covers photoreal 3d art/games.
edit; okay i just read up on the law, it covers actual child pornography not anime/hentai/manga. that would infringe on freedom of expression.
ah, i swore it had to do with drawn too. since imouto paradise 2 was the one that caused the law. thanks for the info.
Windsgrace
2016-10-21, 00:01
Guys we are getting off topic. I rather not have a moderator warn this thread. :topicoff:
Random Wanderer
2016-10-25, 12:40
Since you're worried, this series has not only not been toned down, it actually has grown more explicit as time has gone by. Oh, there are periods of time when there's no notable nudity due to the situations being serious and all: the story in this series is actually quite good, IMO. But the amount of censorship has definitely been reduced in later chapters, to the point that in some shots vaginas are just barely censored. This is a very ecchi series.
finally caught up about 2 days ago. WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. without spoilers, why has it gone this path and please tell me it can go back to the way it was T_T
James Rye
2016-10-29, 05:03
Well, I hope it won't go back to the way it was. So far we heard nothing about reviving the dead and getting a way now out of nowhere would suck. Dead is dead and given what happened to the mom there are goddamn good reasons why it is better to stay dead than coming back to life.
Somethindarker
2016-10-29, 06:08
finally caught up about 2 days ago. WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. without spoilers, why has it gone this path and please tell me it can go back to the way it was T_T
It will there's been too much foreshadowing on MC being able to bring tools to life spontaneously and there's a reason why the time sphere was used. My bet is MC will bring Kiriha back to life by merging her with one of the twins.
Blueknight78
2016-10-29, 07:53
Well, I hope it won't go back to the way it was. So far we heard nothing about reviving the dead and getting a way now out of nowhere would suck. Dead is dead and given what happened to the mom there are goddamn good reasons why it is better to stay dead than coming back to life.
i really, really doubt which kirihara will stay dead, the whole point of this arc is to make him strong enough and find a way to bring her and the loli god back to life and this is not a "dark" show (not in sense of gore and deaths), one of the reasons of her death is logical give the mc time to increase his harem without have to need to worry about not focusing anymore on kirihara, but as soon the writer see the time is come he will bring back the "deads", don't doubt it or probably you will gonna be pissed off when this happen and is not like "bring back to life and happy ending are "rare in this sort of serie.
Chosen_Hero
2016-10-29, 21:40
Pretty sure the point of the arc was to train him for 3 years to get him ready for when his mom is released from the time prison.
Somethindarker
2016-10-30, 03:10
i really, really doubt which kirihara will stay dead, the whole point of this arc is to make him strong enough and find a way to bring her and the loli god back to life and this is not a "dark" show (not in sense of gore and deaths), one of the reasons of her death is logical give the mc time to increase his harem without have to need to worry about not focusing anymore on kirihara, but as soon the writer see the time is come he will bring back the "deads", don't doubt it or probably you will gonna be pissed off when this happen and is not like "bring back to life and happy ending are "rare in this sort of serie.
Yea but the pieces of the puzzle are there, we learn that Kazuya can bring Tsugumomo's to life by himself, then we're told he can keep the entirety of Mayoiga alive by himself and then we get a flashback arc where we learnt he story of the 2 black Obi's where one is seemingly good natured and the other is evil. It's not 100% of course like with any story but it won't surprise me if we get Kiriha back and Loli godess.
Fwarlord
2016-10-30, 10:25
Yea but the pieces of the puzzle are there, we learn that Kazuya can bring Tsugumomo's to life by himself, then we're told he can keep the entirety of Mayoiga alive by himself and then we get a flashback arc where we learnt he story of the 2 black Obi's where one is seemingly good natured and the other is evil. It's not 100% of course like with any story but it won't surprise me if we get Kiriha back and Loli godess.
There is one fundamental difference. All other Tsugumomo aren't actually "dead", as being destroyed. They are just out of energy and what Kazuya did was recharging them. On the other hand, both Obi and Logi were thoroughly destroyed by Kazuya's mom.
Somethindarker
2016-10-30, 10:38
There is one fundamental difference. All other Tsugumomo aren't actually "dead", as being destroyed. They are just out of energy and what Kazuya did was recharging them. On the other hand, both Obi and Logi were thoroughly destroyed by Kazuya's mom.
Doesn't change the fact that Kazuya can bring them to life from a state of nothing I get the feeling that if Kazuya used her restitched pieces or an "empty" black obi he can probably will her back into existence. With loli im not sure, maybe it's a somple as kazuya putting the gem back into her.
Fwarlord
2016-10-30, 11:44
Doesn't change the fact that Kazuya can bring them to life from a state of nothing I get the feeling that if Kazuya used her restitched pieces or an "empty" black obi he can probably will her back into existence. With loli im not sure, maybe it's a somple as kazuya putting the gem back into her.
Those are remained to be seen. But why can't he do it right now, even though he could already bring life to things long ago? It's more like he can only bring life to previously none-living things, but still can't resurrect the dead. Maybe someday he will be able to do it, but doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. I won't be surprised if he will only manage to do it at the end of the manga, and Kiriha will wake up decade from now on, to become his son's partner.
Somethindarker
2016-10-30, 11:49
Those are remained to be seen. But why can't he do it right now, even though he could already bring life to things long ago? It's more like he can only bring life to previously none-living things, but still can't resurrect the dead. Maybe someday he will be able to do it, but doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. I won't be surprised if he will only manage to do it at the end of the manga, and Kiriha will wake up decade from now on, to become his son's partner.
I don't think the author would do that to his "OTP", my moneys on Kazuya woopin' his mom, killing the evil Obi and using it's "body" resurrect Kiriha and then using the stone that Kazumomstole to bring loli goddess back.
Fwarlord
2016-10-30, 12:05
I don't think the author would do that to his "OTP", my moneys on Kazuya woopin' his mom, killing the evil Obi and using it's "body" resurrect Kiriha and then using the stone that Kazumomstole to bring loli goddess back.
Well, only after the ending can we know what the author's actual OTP is, everything before that is just fans' speculation. We have seen many fans' supposed OTPs being sunk by the author recently, Bleach is a prime example.
Somethindarker
2016-10-30, 12:18
Well, only after the ending can we know what the author's actual OTP is, everything before that is just fans' speculation. We have seen many fans' supposed OTPs being sunk by the author recently, Bleach is a prime example.
Well I meant OTP in the sense that Kiriha is the main girl and all the other harem members are just added for flavor(even though harem end is pretty much a certainty).
Blueknight78
2016-10-30, 14:28
Those are remained to be seen. But why can't he do it right now, even though he could already bring life to things long ago? It's more like he can only bring life to previously none-living things, but still can't resurrect the dead. Maybe someday he will be able to do it, but doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. I won't be surprised if he will only manage to do it at the end of the manga, and Kiriha will wake up decade from now on, to become his son's partner.
he being unable to bring then back now, was stated which cuz is because he still not powerfull enough to do that and neither know how to do that yet, he still developing his power, but the moment which he finally get enough power and learn how to proper use it he will find the way tp bring then back and i really doubt it will be in the "end" unless his fight with his mother is his last fight and the manga is on his final arcs(with the battle with his mother being the last battle), then probably really in the end but this probably will be only for the loli god, for kirihara he can still bring her back before this, since he still have part of her "obi body with him, that "plot device can be what will bring her back when the author decide the times is come to it, but i really doubt this serie will be like that with the girls only gone back on the last chapter and last pages, for sure we gonna see then come back before last chapter.
So, the adaptation is going 2-3 chapters per episode judging by the 2 episodes that aired today.
At this point they will reach Kukuri and Kiriha's death, unless the studio go anime-only ending, or maybe the Sunao fight since is earlier than that. After all is thanks to their deaths that the real plot is out.
Somethindarker
2017-04-02, 19:21
So, the adaptation is going 2-3 chapters per episode judging by the 2 episodes that aired today.
At this point they will reach Kukuri and Kiriha's death, unless the studio go anime-only ending, or maybe the Sunao fight since is earlier than that. After all is thanks to their deaths that the real plot is out.
I don't think it'll get that far probably somewhere between the him and Sugao fight and the dream arc, the first few chapters is a tiny arc so I'm guessing it won't go much past chapter 30-40. unless they skip alot of the slice of life and mini arcs which they probably will since y'know, anime. I'm probably gonna drop it after the next episode the arts only gonna get worse and I can't stand when female VA's voice male leads.
^Yeah, one thing that is very important for this is the art and Tsugumomo's designs are a special touch from the author, Kazuya's voice doesn't really fit him too.
DmonHiro
2017-04-06, 17:15
Just caught up with the manga. Tournament arcs aren't usually this tense. This is a tournament arc done well. Also, I can't wait for our boy to fight. He's going to kick so much ass, I'm sure. They didn't even show us the face he made in chapter 95, but apprently it was beyond terrifying.
I definitely want to see first battle of Kazuya using Kyouka since it combat style is completely different than Kiriha. Anyway the tournament arc is good arc since for me most of the arc that Kazuya was in school was a filler. Well Kazuya ability to create amasogi maybe use to revive Kiriha, remember that Azami is a Tsugumomo not a Amasogi, she was possessed by a amasogi. But that should happen after the tournament arc, I guess he will revive also all the mayoiga tsugumomo that die in the current arc. If Kiriha revives then Kazuya will use Kyoka and use Kiriha at the same time, maybe a double ascension.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 21:35
I'm still at the beginning of the manga. Can someone tell me what becomes of Chisato?
Somethindarker
2017-04-10, 21:56
I'm still at the beginning of the manga. Can someone tell me what becomes of Chisato?
She's around she's "part" of the harem but since the supernatural aspect of the story has really picked up we rarely see her.
WyrdMonger
2017-04-10, 22:00
She should really get some sort of power up.
The One Above God
2017-04-11, 23:39
I hope Kazuya still employs martial arts in some way while using Kyouka. Maybe something like a vibration enhancement to his limbs or something to add power? I dunno, I just want to see him still actively use martial arts since the fights with him using them are my favorites.
What we need to know is how the author is going to manage the tournament arc, after all we have 3 years before Kazuya acquires enough power to beat Kanaka.
I just hope the author doesn't go full Dragon Ball with this tournament arc and just do something like time-skip to resume the important plot, after all Tsugumomo's strong point isn't the story, is the heavy fanservice - almost hentai and the characters.
Blueknight78
2017-04-12, 00:14
What we need to know is how the author is going to manage the tournament arc, after all we have 3 years before Kazuya acquires enough power to beat Kanaka.
I just hope the author doesn't go full Dragon Ball with this tournament arc and just do something like time-skip to resume the important plot, after all Tsugumomo's strong point isn't the story, is the heavy fanservice - almost hentai and the characters.
well but he also can't take too much time to bring back both kukuri and kirihara specially kirihara since she is the main girl, i'm pretty sure he will ressurect her or before the final battle or in the middle of it, i don't know how much the writer want to "increase mc harem" but really he also can't take too much time to come back to the plot, which is one of the few near hentai mangas which actually have a "good plot" and battles" and don't look too much generic.
i really want to see his battle with flute girl and they discovering all the cheat(that guys are definilty cheating in a very hideous way).
Ultragunner
2017-04-18, 00:10
just caught up with the manga, and oh man things went to sh*t so quickly that it hurts :sad:
I have a question about Kanaka the villain: from what I can gather, Kanaka got possessed by a combination of amasogi: the mysterious black mist + Azami the dress (that merged with Azami the obi), and her empty heart also helps with the possession. Is that correct?
Also, "Azami" now refers to both the obi and the dress, right? They kinda merged into one?
I found it weird that they have both a crush on Kazuya AND the intention to kill him :heh:
just caught up with the manga, and oh man things went to sh*t so quickly that it hurts :sad:
I have a question about Kanaka the villain: from what I can gather, Kanaka got possessed by a combination of amasogi: the mysterious black mist + Azami the dress (that merged with Azami the obi), and her empty heart also helps with the possession. Is that correct?
Also, "Azami" now refers to both the obi and the dress, right? They kinda merged into one?
I found it weird that they have both a crush on Kazuya AND the intention to kill him :heh:
To the first question, yes. Both the obi and dress merged together and the urges to "feel" something of Kanaka thanks to her empty heart helped to reach the situation we have now.
And to the second one, is not like they merged 100%, is more like the intention to kill Kazuya is stronger than the part that loves him. Basically the dress absorbed the black obi and now that's what is following Kazuya's desire using Kanaka as vessel.
In the end the one who fucked up this was Kazuya by creating the dress and thanks to that we're stuck with this tournament, with Kiriha and Kukuri dead and Based sister inside the time barrier.
Ultragunner
2017-05-14, 18:52
ok, new chapter is out (finally :heh:)
I have a feeling that Oriobana will lose her match which really sucks :mad:
but how else will Kazuya kick Madarai's @ss?
Will the fox girl lose? I can't see it, because we all know who she is eh? :heh: :p
The One Above God
2017-05-14, 22:12
Oriobana could draw, then Fox Mask would take a win. Madarai and co., on the other hand, would use their all to win the last fight with Kazuya to get a draw and possibly hold another match. Then Kazuya destroys them.
That, or Oriobana could lose and then we get a double win from Fox Mask and Kazuya.
Ultragunner
2017-06-14, 07:24
new chapter!!! but it feels so short :T_T:
can we just get to Kazuya kicking Madarai's @ss right away? :heh:
The One Above God
2017-06-14, 07:44
With Oriobana finally showing how beast she is, we might actually get a win from her. That would mean Fox Mask would have to lose or draw if we're gonna see Kazuya wreck Madarai though. Or maybe both could win, and Madarai, out of spite, mobilizes his faction to attack the other and then Kazuya would get a chance to show off his teamwork with Kyouka.
With Oriobana finally showing how beast she is, we might actually get a win from her. That would mean Fox Mask would have to lose or draw if we're gonna see Kazuya wreck Madarai though. Or maybe both could win, and Madarai, out of spite, mobilizes his faction to attack the other and then Kazuya would get a chance to show off his teamwork with Kyouka.
I guess Oriobana will win this one. Since Fox Max is Sunao she will definitely win since she is too got with Sumeragi Style using Kotetsu and she also can use Ascension, I think that she will use Ascension to win to demostrate that ability can be only used it if you are deep bond with their Tsugumomo. Then Kazuya wins against Madarai, anyway in the first prediction said that Pro-Tsukumogami Faction will win 6-3 against the Enslave Tsukumogami Faction having Takano, Fox Mask and Kazuya loosing.
i saw a part of the live broadcast and sunao was maskless in a drawing stance and her opponent was clearly moking her (dont know jap )
i think in sunao fight she will win in a instant that kind of battle where the characters keep making shoked faces
does anyone know when there are lives? the artist has lots of sites where he makes lives but im never able to see
He streams on YouTube pretty regularly. Yoshikadu2011 is the channel.
he does lives of the manga on youtube too
but i think that he does most of his lives in the others sites he uses
there is one 'hamadatv2' that i saw a live once
there is a yoshidaku2010 too
The One Above God
2017-07-12, 23:10
Welp, Oriobana lost. Time for Sunao and Kazuya to wreck some people.
The One Above God
2017-07-13, 02:03
Alpha release. Still needs some editing and will be released on batoto soon.
Ultragunner
2017-07-13, 21:56
ughhh, can we please just kick that guy's @ss already? He's even worsemthan Danzo from Naruto :heh:
and wonder how long will our side take to figure it out that they have been spied on numerous times already, especially with the incense tsugumomo, it is getting really old :heh:
in the live of the newest ch
saw a weird tsugumomo
its a "Chalk line" or " 墨壺" ?:confused:
i just cant think of any power for that
Ultragunner
2017-08-23, 09:53
so...there is no chapter this month? :heh:
zezegui222
2017-08-24, 01:13
@Ultragunner: I read in some fan translation page that this month has a pause in Tsugumomo like weekly mangas had one week pause too. Well, i don't find the chapter raw too and i think that is the reason
zezegui222
2017-09-14, 12:12
The chapter 101 raw already came out. But I see only a few pages in 4chan, and tieba baidu just have the cover
http://i.4cdn.org/a/1505340142959.png
The chapter 101 raw already came out. But I see only a few pages in 4chan, and tieba baidu just have the cover
http://i.4cdn.org/a/1505340142959.png
Most of the pages of Tsugumomo in 4chan are censored, so you just have to click them to see the see them (since they are NSFW).
Abyway I want to see Sunao fight. I guess she will win using Ascension.
Ultragunner
2017-09-17, 04:11
I hope she finishes the match in the next chapter, can't wait for Kazuya to whoop Madarai's @ss :heh:
edit: on a side note
so Ouhi's "first time" was more or less a lie? and that she could still technically be a virgin? haha :heh:
The One Above God
2017-09-17, 10:55
I'm betting on a OHKO from Sunao next chapter.
Ultragunner
2017-10-14, 07:46
welp, the fight is still not finished because the other guy is not a push over...god darn it! :heh:
The One Above God
2017-11-13, 00:20
Chap 103 out.
Fight is much closer than I thought it would be. I'm glad the guy isn't just some fodder. Anyway, Sunao should have used Ascension right from the start to blitz the guy.
Chap 103 out.
Fight is much closer than I thought it would be. I'm glad the guy isn't just some fodder. Anyway, Sunao should have used Ascension right from the start to blitz the guy.
author's live channel 104 spoiler
as expected, Sunao with ascension beats her foe, but then needs Kazuya to replenish her magic, (with helps from Oriobana's hair tentacle?)
The One Above God
2017-11-13, 12:43
author's live channel 104 spoiler
as expected, Sunao with ascension beats her foe, but then needs Kazuya to replenish her magic, (with helps from Oriobana's hair tentacle?)
Ah, classic Tsugumomo, I see. Can't wait to read it.
zezegui222
2017-12-10, 16:32
Chapter 104 came out. Now I just want to see Kazuya beat the crap out of Madarai
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-n1hSnALR3YA/Wiz1mjbchKI/AAAAAAAAJHY/FmeNnJzDgJIZ00wKzM0IIB6wgqR53X6ggCHMYCw/s0/00088.jpg
Windsgrace
2018-01-18, 07:03
The latest translated ch was wow. Erm near H lvl...it was a fanservice chapter through and through. :heh:
James Rye
2018-01-18, 11:23
It was nearly porn. Those two should keep that stuff up for later when they are married. :P
it is H, the only thing that makes it pass censor is sensei delete the erection of Kazuya, it was drawn and shown in the pre sketch. the English pirate version I believe someone retouch the female parts, as it is not that obvious in the Japanese raw.
in any case, this chapter cements Sunao as part of the harem, it is okay because she will be the only human in it, (Kazuya's sister does not count.)
and for next chapter Madarai comes out in a truly hideous form, well, picture is worth a thousand words...
"Multi soul fusing tsukumogami"
https://youtu.be/w-arHl9_U9Y
Somethindarker
2018-01-18, 21:15
it is H, the only thing that makes it pass censor is sensei delete the erection of Kazuya, it was drawn and shown in the pre sketch. the English pirate version I believe someone retouch the female parts, as it is not that obvious in the Japanese raw.
in any case, this chapter cements Sunao as part of the harem, it is okay because she will be the only human in it, (Kazuya's sister does not count.)
and for next chapter Madarai comes out in a truly hideous form, well, picture is worth a thousand words...
"Multi soul fusing tsukumogami"
https://youtu.be/w-arHl9_U9Y
You forgot glasses girl.
Ultragunner
2018-01-18, 23:24
I seriously wonder why the author hasn't actually do the real H-thing yet :heh:
Tsugumomo is a seinen, and a lot of prominent series in the genre have already crossed the line e.g. Tokyo Ghoul:re, Kingdom
sure, it is consistent with Kazuya's character, but if shouldn't have to be that way :heh:
Somethindarker
2018-01-18, 23:48
I seriously wonder why the author hasn't actually do the real H-thing yet :heh:
Tsugumomo is a seinen, and a lot of prominent series in the genre have already crossed the line e.g. Tokyo Ghoul:re, Kingdom
sure, it is consistent with Kazuya's character, but if shouldn't have to be that way :heh:
It's more fun to tease us than actually finish. The journey to sex is always more fun than the actual deed.
You forgot glasses girl.
she is irrelevant and long forgotten, she won't be part of the harem just like Kazuya's sister.
I seriously wonder why the author hasn't actually do the real H-thing yet :heh:
Tsugumomo is a seinen, and a lot of prominent series in the genre have already crossed the line e.g. Tokyo Ghoul:re, Kingdom
sure, it is consistent with Kazuya's character, but if shouldn't have to be that way :heh:
Kazuya comes and blow his load a few times already in the story, basically in this manga everything sexual except the real intercourse had been done many times, the author even invented “soul climax” to get around some corners,
Somethindarker
2018-01-19, 18:05
she is irrelevant and long forgotten, she won't be part of the harem just like Kazuya's sister.
Sais you. Author said 2 days ago on stream the author mentioned that he hasn't forgotten about glasses girl.
Kazuya comes and blow his load a few times already in the story, basically in this manga everything sexual except the real intercourse had been done many times, the author even invented “soul climax” to get around some corners,
If you wanna get technical Kazuya and Kiriha did the deed in the gender bend arc and Pillow Tsugumomo has been banging Kazuya on the regular in the pillow realm.
bastek66
2018-02-04, 15:38
Flute is kill ;_;
Somethindarker
2018-02-04, 16:42
Flute is kill ;_;
For now, my money is on Kazuya reviving Kiriha and Flute and the good half of the evil Obi will merge is Kiriha.
marconii2002
2018-02-05, 14:23
For now, my money is on Kazuya reviving Kiriha and Flute and the good half of the evil Obi will merge is Kiriha.
From this same chapter
https://i.imgur.com/hftPxDx.png
whiteshadow
2018-02-09, 09:26
For now, my money is on Kazuya reviving Kiriha and Flute and the good half of the evil Obi will merge is Kiriha.
I prefer if she stays dead.
James Rye
2018-02-10, 07:06
I prefer if she stays dead.
Yeah, me too.
zezegui222
2018-02-11, 21:29
I'm really anxious to read the entire fight, but it will take a lot of time to all chapters get released
http://i.4cdn.org/a/1518345565599.jpg
Hamada's drawings are so good ...
http://i.4cdn.org/a/1518368595597.png
Ultragunner
2018-02-14, 01:14
is it me or the recent chapters have been shorter than usual? :heh:
The One Above God
2018-04-16, 03:35
Madarai turns into an amalgam of tsukumogami while Kazuya forcefully ascended with Kyouka using what I assume to be the Curse as a fuel of sorts (this is just a speculation and is in no way mentioned in the newly released chapter).
Predictions: Kazuya lays down the hurt on Madarai with some difficulty but it will turn out that his forced ascension has some consequences.
Windsgrace
2018-04-16, 03:44
welp that escalated quickly. Also yeah things won't end well.
Ultragunner
2018-04-16, 11:06
but this "Ascension" is not the same? At least the symbol on his forehead looks a bit different than before...I think :heh:
tsunade666
2018-04-16, 11:35
maybe it's corrupted because his powers are unsealed.
It's corrupted because it's a forced ascension where gains all control over the tsugumomo's power and it was done in anger. He can still do a regular ascension, as you will see in a few chapters.
The problem I see is that even if he wins, he is doing it by subduing the shikigami, so in the end he would prove the slavery faction right
And finally after so much filler with the tournament arc guess who's back, the most obvious comeback.
http://i63.tinypic.com/imt9wi.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2wolrao.jpg
F***ing finally, time for some ass-whooping.
Chosen_Hero
2018-04-25, 00:04
And finally after so much filler with the tournament arc guess who's back, the most obvious comeback.
http://i63.tinypic.com/imt9wi.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2wolrao.jpg
Well that's disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I like her and all but the moment this happened any danger the important characters face from now on will not have any weight. Thank you manga/anime for once again being predictable to a T.
Ultragunner
2018-04-25, 00:09
Aww, and here I have been digging Kazuya x Kyouka :heh:
Well that's disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I like her and all but the moment this happened any danger the important characters face from now on will not have any weight. Thank you manga/anime for once again being predictable to a T.
Considering that the water god is still dead and it took dozens of chapters to bring back one of the two leads, I'm not particularly worried.
tsunade666
2018-04-25, 07:39
I still sad because the loli goddess is dead. and she's a good. so far, there are no clues yet provided to bring one back alive.
I still sad because the loli goddess is dead. and she's a good. so far, there are no clues yet provided to bring one back alive.
I mean, they set up Kiriha coming back the same chapter we found out she was dead. But with the water god it was just "nah she dead-dead, go kill your mom"
Blueknight78
2018-04-25, 11:40
man i really don't understand what peoples are complain here, it will be obvious which everyone who died or was trapped (his sister) will come back soon or later again this show is not your "blood/gore show" where peoples will die like flies and stay dead, it alread was surprising the writer have balls to kill popular girls, ofcourse everyone is gonna come back, it's just which it take a lot of time, if i'm not wrong he author already had told which he was to bring back kirihara at one point, because she still the "main girl in the end" and most popular, while this serie is like a true harem where the mc can have much girls as he want kirhara sill the most popular and fans where waiting for her come back.
IF you where expectating something different them you really come to the wrong serie.
the tone of this serie aways was too "light" and too much focused in near porn to be a serious serie with "real deaths" and consequences.
Chosen_Hero
2018-04-25, 21:59
man i really don't understand what peoples are complain here, it will be obvious which everyone who died or was trapped (his sister) will come back soon or later again this show is not your "blood/gore show" where peoples will die like flies and stay dead, it alread was surprising the writer have balls to kill popular girls, ofcourse everyone is gonna come back, it's just which it take a lot of time, if i'm not wrong he author already had told which he was to bring back kirihara at one point, because she still the "main girl in the end" and most popular, while this serie is like a true harem where the mc can have much girls as he want kirhara sill the most popular and fans where waiting for her come back.
IF you where expectating something different them you really come to the wrong serie.
the tone of this serie aways was too "light" and too much focused in near porn to be a serious serie with "real deaths" and consequences.
First of all, I am not in the wrong to hope that at least one japanese series has the actual balls to let one of their main characters stay dead. The trope of bringing back dead important characters takes away any and all tension the series might have had, it only takes one character returning to make all of it go away.
Second, I never said anything about "blood and gore", I just wanted/hoped that the series actually had dire repercussions to characters dying, nothing more, nothing less.
Third, the writers balls to "kill off popular girls" just retracted back into his body the moment Kiriha cames back.
Fourth, I don't care to follow or shadow the mangaka enough (more like at all) to hand on his every word. If he was going to bring her back then he should have had her (and any other character that might return) go into a coma like state or something, instead of outright killing them off. Now he has contradicted himself especially considering all the characters that have died so far anf how many times it was made clear that they would never return, if Kiriha can return then why should I worry for any of the tools getting killed off by the enslavement faction? The MC can just return them to normal with his MC privilege. And, if it was the work of some other tsukumogami, then why keep it a secret that you can revive everyone that has been used up? Even worse would be if she came back just because the needle tsukumogami stitched her pieces back up, that would definitely go against the established lore that they can't be put back together and are dead as a door nail.
Fifth, I wasn't expecting anything different, if anything I called this on this very thread the moment I read the chapter where they were supposedly "killed off". Hoping japan has the balls to go against the norm =/= expecting there to be blood and gore (seriously, where the hell did you get this idea from? No one mentioned it at all).
And lastly, if it was "too light" and was more focused on the porn then why have any deaths at all? Why have life or death battles with characters trying to kill someone? If you want your series to have battles the you need to have tension, if you want tension then there need to be consequences to said battle (especially if you establish since early on that there will be deaths), if there are no consequences then why have character development surrounding said consequences if you are just going to undo it all?
Like I said, I had already called this long ago so whatever, it's not like I really care that much, but if I don't like a development then I don't like it, all I did was express my thoughts on it nothing more, nothing less.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2018-04-25, 23:21
When the author's pixiv page is more honest about where the direction of the story is going than the story itself.
Blueknight78
2018-04-25, 23:22
First of all, I am not in the wrong to hope that at least one japanese series has the actual balls to let one of their main characters stay dead. The trope of bringing back dead important characters takes away any and all tension the series might have had, it only takes one character returning to make all of it go away.
Second, I never said anything about "blood and gore", I just wanted/hoped that the series actually had dire repercussions to characters dying, nothing more, nothing less.
Third, the writers balls to "kill off popular girls" just retracted back into his body the moment Kiriha cames back.
Fourth, I don't care to follow or shadow the mangaka enough (more like at all) to hand on his every word. If he was going to bring her back then he should have had her (and any other character that might return) go into a coma like state or something, instead of outright killing them off. Now he has contradicted himself especially considering all the characters that have died so far anf how many times it was made clear that they would never return, if Kiriha can return then why should I worry for any of the tools getting killed off by the enslavement faction? The MC can just return them to normal with his MC privilege. And, if it was the work of some other tsukumogami, then why keep it a secret that you can revive everyone that has been used up? Even worse would be if she came back just because the needle tsukumogami stitched her pieces back up, that would definitely go against the established lore that they can't be put back together and are dead as a door nail.
Fifth, I wasn't expecting anything different, if anything I called this on this very thread the moment I read the chapter where they were supposedly "killed off". Hoping japan has the balls to go against the norm =/= expecting there to be blood and gore (seriously, where the hell did you get this idea from? No one mentioned it at all).
And lastly, if it was "too light" and was more focused on the porn then why have any deaths at all? Why have life or death battles with characters trying to kill someone? If you want your series to have battles the you need to have tension, if you want tension then there need to be consequences to said battle (especially if you establish since early on that there will be deaths), if there are no consequences then why have character development surrounding said consequences if you are just going to undo it all?
Like I said, I had already called this long ago so whatever, it's not like I really care that much, but if I don't like a development then I don't like it, all I did was express my thoughts on it nothing more, nothing less.
well i totally disagree with you about your ""tension" logic, almostevery shounen or seinen or even western cartoon/manga/anime/novel whatever source you want, its not jut "japan" go read and watch marvel, dc, or many others fictions, it's common you have characters in dire situations and many times no one dies, others some die and come back just after, others take time(specially if the character is not that popular) and even sometimes they really stay dead(when they are really, really low popular/hated), that is not exclusive to japan.
Consequences not aways equal to death of a main character can be others things and i'm fine with it, because it's not the first time it happened and not the last time and i like that, it's just a matter of "taste" if you like of dire consequences and deaths ok, fine it's your preference, but this don't means which it is a "rule" and everyone.
Some mangakas like to do that because it's create exactly that tension for some peoples and for others can make the "come back even more epic" yeah, actually some peoples like when a character die and come back later in a epic way it's a fanservice, ofcourse not everyone like it like you but some peoples like and as i told i'm fine since it never really bothered me, only when a serie is true trying to be serious and realist, but a serie like that with so much near porn and comedy, it will be a real surprise if they don't come back than they "come back" because it is what you are expectating, it's like you see the snow white die and expectate she stay dead", as a exemple, you must know before hand what sort of serie you where before start to "hope for something" that is what i feel really being important.
Even if not by some outside info, even on his manga he aways give some explanations about what he is doing or want do in the future" and it aways was clear what exactly the type of serie he was writing.
To be fair i see what he did much more like a tool for him work on the harem tham really actually wanted them to really die, if you think like that it was really a smart move because he don't need to keep going back to that girls because of fan base A or B, with that characters out of play he can work on others as much as he want until he feel is the right time to bring them back.
And the battle had consequences cuz the girls died, if they can come back is another history but the consequence was there, it's just not was a permanent one, just because it's temporary don't stop being a consequence and it make him want to become more strong to undo what happened, it affected him and that was the point, it did what was supposed to do.
marconii2002
2018-04-30, 12:57
From today's author live stream
https://i.imgur.com/h4XdXsN.png
ImperialFlameGod8190
2018-04-30, 18:50
Here's the thing with character deaths in anime/manga/LN. In pretty much all major stories the death of a character is a huge deal especially if it's a major one. You get so used to the character and their interactions that them dying is a huge deal. One of the things that made a lot of people angry with DBZ was that nobody was ever dead for long so it wasn't a big deal.
FT had a similar issue because you saw characters struggle and die and you sit there saying... oh they're not really dead.
The fact that they're bringing Kirika back after the huge emotional toll and everything that came around her death cheapens the death at all.
Blueknight78
2018-05-01, 01:51
Here's the thing with character deaths in anime/manga/LN. In pretty much all major stories the death of a character is a huge deal especially if it's a major one. You get so used to the character and their interactions that them dying is a huge deal. One of the things that made a lot of people angry with DBZ was that nobody was ever dead for long so it wasn't a big deal.
FT had a similar issue because you saw characters struggle and die and you sit there saying... oh they're not really dead.
The fact that they're bringing Kirika back after the huge emotional toll and everything that came around her death cheapens the death at all.
i know that, but this don't change the fact which all that series are loved by fans in the end, because not everyone and specially majority don't really give a shit about peoples dying and stay dead specially if they know which this is "not that sort of serie", kirahara coming back was foreshadow a long time ago and was just a "matter of time" until the writer feel it's time to come back and as i told the same happen in western cartoons where characters die and come back later.
I'm not saying which deaths are supposed to be meanless, but which you can only expectate "peoples dying and stay dead" in the "right places", series like dbnz, ft, one piece and many others pretty standart mangas peoples dying and stay dead are the "last thing you must expectate" and if they happen gonna be for "minor characters and rarelly for major and majority of fans actually like much more when a character die and come back later with a awesome coming back thn stay dead to be honest because when comes to "standart" series agian don't matter if japan or western it's pretty much what gonna happen, for me what matter if the story, plot, battles, romance, fanservice and others things are good enough, if they are good i really don't care if peoples gonna stay dead or not, because what is matter is the fun the serie is giving and honestly this is one of the "really few harems" which i actually honestly like, comming from someone which normally hate most harems.
Like i told for the aways the most important thing is know where are you stepping and make sure it is really what you are looking for even if it can take many chapters until you realise and as i told that serie being "light" never was a surprise the writer aways was clear about "what he was going to do next, for exemple like the glasses girl he is looking to finish this arc to be able to go back to school to get back to her, he is pretty much a 'fanservice" mangaka but ofcourse this don't means which he can't do battle or kill peoples" but it means which you can't have "high expectations over it, because probably you gonna get full disappointed.
if that serie was like akami ga kill and more serious series like that i could really understand peoples being upset about peoples dying and come back, because it really kills the serie mood but a serie like that, it's really look werid for me, remember most of the series which peoples complain or where shounen and supposed to be watch from 'kids" like 10 to 15 in japan is really weird expectate that sort of thing, the same goes for some "seiene or more mature series", when you have the "tone and mood of the serie" set in stone" expectate something different from it also sound bad, because this serie was really more for "perv" and peoples which want "more fun" and battles rater tham a more deep and dark plot.
zezegui222
2018-05-05, 19:33
The portuguese translated chapter came out today and.... I really liked this chapter. Is impossible to describe my satisfaction when I saw this page:
https://i.imgur.com/ykmy0HAg.png
Windsgrace
2018-05-06, 06:12
Ara its not loading for me. I only see a half finger width line that goes from under the word images all the way to where it says link 150. Is the image too large?
zezegui222
2018-05-06, 08:41
It's a 836x1200 illustration. I uploaded the illustration on imgur and changed here, try to look again.
Edit: \/ I sent a PM to you with the link
Windsgrace
2018-05-06, 22:35
Edit: Still no luck. :P
If you link it, it might work.
Ultragunner
2018-05-14, 05:56
aye, I dunno how to feel about the new chapter :heh:
Windsgrace
2018-05-14, 07:23
aye, I dunno how to feel about the new chapter :heh:
Ara its out?
Ultragunner
2018-05-14, 07:42
^you can check it on a certain popular "platform" my friend :D
Random Wanderer
2018-05-14, 13:52
There's a thread for it on r/manga, with a link to the whole chapter in an imgur gallery, assuming you can't find it anywhere else. It's not up on the normal manga hosting sites yet because the scanlators still have some editing and such to do, but this version is perfectly functional for finding out what happens next.
Windsgrace
2018-05-14, 15:59
I was talking 110.
whiteshadow
2018-05-14, 20:57
They better have a good explanation of how kiriha is still alive, so disappointed
They better have a good explanation of how kiriha is still alive, so disappointed
I dunno, maybe it's the explanation they set up almost immediately after she died. Where if Kazuya keeps her remains with him long enough his spiritual energy will absorb into her and bring her back. The reason he was carrying her fragments around with him at all.
Chosen_Hero
2018-05-15, 00:44
^I don't remember that ever being said, if anything what I do remember is everyone saying that once one died it could NOT be revived and that he should move on since what happened can't be changed.
Blueknight78
2018-05-15, 02:19
^I don't remember that ever being said, if anything what I do remember is everyone saying that once one died it could NOT be revived and that he should move on since what happened can't be changed.
wel for what i remember after her death in a moment someone told which he can "revive her" if him get strong enough to do that, because of his bloodline with his mother, he is "special" as he was able to create a tsugumomo when he was a little kid using his power.
^I don't remember that ever being said, if anything what I do remember is everyone saying that once one died it could NOT be revived and that he should move on since what happened can't be changed.
That was in regards to the water goddess, who isn't coming back. Reviving a tsukogami by keeping it close to its owner has been a thing since Kyouka turned back into a flute.
dragon1412
2018-05-15, 08:40
^I don't remember that ever being said, if anything what I do remember is everyone saying that once one died it could NOT be revived and that he should move on since what happened can't be changed.
It is the goddess that was talked about in that one, It was always mentioned that it is possible for tsukumogami to emerge again with enough spiritual link, the same apply to the reverse, if Tsukumogami is away or without owner they can be reverted to their tool form, Mayoiga arc is the most easy example
do you think this is a new work or is it still tsugumomo?
https://imgur.com/cdntOXs
ps i dont know if im alowed to post this so i probaly delete later
found out its a maid dragon colab pic
zezegui222
2018-05-28, 18:23
I don't know about the english translation, but today a Volume 20 Extra was released in the portuguese version. It's the chapter 97.8
Kukuri is probably alive because of Kasumi's power, but this is a secret to Kazuya. This was revealed in a talk between Tsuzura and and Taguri
http://unionmangas.site/leitor/mangas/Tsugumomo/97.8/[Resurrection%20Scan]07.png
And, Taguri being a pervert when the other is a loli, like always
http://unionmangas.site/leitor/mangas/Tsugumomo/97.8/[Resurrection%20Scan]09.png
http://unionmangas.site/leitor/mangas/Tsugumomo/97.8/[Resurrection%20Scan]01.png
http://unionmangas.site/leitor/mangas/Tsugumomo/97.8/[Resurrection%20Scan]02.png
Ultragunner
2018-05-31, 09:46
so...Shinobu, the needle Tsukumogami is (probably) a girl eh? ehuehuehue ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Random Wanderer
2018-05-31, 20:53
I have to say, seeing Kazuya and Kiriha fighting together again feels really great after all this time. Seeing them splatter Madarai all over the arena like he so utterly deserves? Priceless.
And hey, apparently the needle Tsukumogami is a girl. Knowing this series, she'll probably be in for some "thank you molestation" as a reward for restoring Kiriha.
I have to say, seeing Kazuya and Kiriha fighting together again feels really great after all this time. Seeing them splatter Madarai all over the arena like he so utterly deserves? Priceless.
And hey, apparently the needle Tsukumogami is a girl. Knowing this series, she'll probably be in for some "thank you molestation" as a reward for restoring Kiriha.
i dont think it was realy clear if the needle is a girl
at least not in the translation where did you get that idea?
was it some of those weird things that jap uses like "boku, watashi, etc"?
Windsgrace
2018-07-02, 00:51
Ch 111 Yikes young hormones go a little wild and erm Kazuya's partners seems to not mind becoming "real" partners...alas he is a bit too emotional and slow. *cough* Otherwise we could have seen another scenario happen. (Quite welcomed) Then again it wouldn't be able to go on a normal manga release site by then~
Don't forget Kazuya is not so dense... in this moment is just that he is too happy to see both of them alive to even think about doing the do :) (not that he would, we had his reasons already :P )
tsunade666
2018-07-02, 13:05
what happen in the end? it looks like that they just release a fake statement that he was exiled but did you guys think that she ended him or free him? only sfx and it's not even clear.
roses on both hands kazuya. roses on both hands.
what happen in the end? it looks like that they just release a fake statement that he was exiled but did you guys think that she ended him or free him? only sfx and it's not even clear.
roses on both hands kazuya. roses on both hands.
She killed him, I think. It was a mercy kill, but that was the implication.
Dart-Sama
2018-07-30, 07:42
phhhhhhh, the latest bonus chapter was not only uncensored, it was totally sexual, i wonder if he will let himself go at the end of the series and have an orgy. xD
For me was a total dissapointing chapter... :( I would have liked more plot and less PLOT :P
https://i.imgur.com/VZxhSR8.png
Harem
whiteshadow
2018-09-03, 09:10
^^ We're missing three more candidates, his sister, childhood friend and sunao
why he choose those ones there was some great ones there how is needle and pot well fight i agree mirror is strong
darkofficer
2019-03-06, 19:15
the isekai part is now a bit dragging on first mc and kiriha are turned into slaves and now the rest of his party too
tsunade666
2019-03-08, 01:47
its really a bit of a drag and I'm losing interest in it. I will probably back when the at is ending or it ended.
Ugh, I sure hope the mangaka doesn't plan to redeem this girl in the end. She deserves whatever she has coming to her. Feel sorry for her sister though...
tsunade666
2019-04-01, 16:17
the latest development made me just go ugh! I thought those girls would being help but they ended up with being the one in need of help.
darkofficer
2019-04-01, 19:10
wow .... what a bitch, if that is the girl they looking for i hope kuzuya destroys it himself. Let her suffer
Ichinotachi
2019-04-01, 19:43
I hope that girl gets what she deserves, what a piece of shit.
darkofficer
2021-06-14, 14:51
well damm shinobu
Guess this "Taunade" that Kazuya is fighting with, is probably going to be a fragment of his Mother's Soul (aka., Kanaka's), which split from her when she died in the past.
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