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Kido Tatsuhiko moved to Tokyo to attend an art school and start his new life. In his new room, there’s a small hole in the wall. At first he can see nothing through the small hole, but one night, through the peeping hole, he saw a girl. That’s how his new life starts.
Genres: Adult, Ecchi, Harem, Romance, Seinen, Slice Of Life
Warning: It does have sex scenes and nudity involved (Don't worry, it is not OMG SEX EVERYWHEREZ!! It is used to develop the characters more from what I have read so far)
there are currently 5 volumes released in japan and the scanlation is picking up fast considering they started translating this not too long ago. so far, 8 chapters have been released.
there is attempted rape involved, and now you have been warned.
so far it has fast development and the artwork is good. it is really not your typical seinen romance story that drags the story around without any development happening. every chapter so far seems to be pushing their relationship into a positive thing. as for chapter 8, i can't believe how that attempted rape didn't strongly affected her in mind and body. usually a girl would seek help right away.
oh, I have been kinda interested in this title for a while, so I'm really glad that some chapters have been scanlated into English.
what interests me the most about this series is the Girl Next Door. she is the reason why I'm enjoying this work so much; she is cunning, scheming, evil... and has such nice smile on her face---like someone who is about to plot something very fun for her own amusement. Her character design is also very pleasing to the eye, and it's really nice to see her wear different clothing every chapter. oh and her interaction with the male is one of the most interesting/entertaining aspects of the manga. don't really care about the other girls, though. I think Emiru is simply great; and she is probably one of the most interesting females I have come across.
anyway, I'm not sure where the story is going, so I can't comment on that. Liking the artwork so far, I think it captures well the erotic aspect. I'm fine with nipple exposure, but not very fond of the sex. (Emiru masturbating is ok<-- very erotic methinks).
DragoZERO
2011-01-01, 13:09
Oh man, this is a hilarious series. I can't stop laughing at Kido's misfortune (more or less).
Can I play the slut card? I am impressed that he took the opportunity and all. We're so used to seeing a protagonist avoid such a situation and run away from it.
I have to say, I would have beat the shit out of that guy when he left, stripped him (disposing of his clothes else where), left him outside unconscious and then called the cops.
Onto volume 2!
ZODDGUTS
2011-01-01, 13:39
Ah yes Seinen manga, where the male leads actually have the balls to tap it when they have the opportunity.
Shadow5YA
2011-01-02, 00:23
Ah yes Seinen manga, where the male leads actually have the balls to tap it when they have the opportunity.
Although he seems to have an aversion towards Emiru....
DragoZERO
2011-01-02, 00:36
Although he seems to have an aversion towards Emiru....
But it's an understandable one. The girl is weird and he has proper motivation, I think, to avoid her.
Shadow5YA
2011-01-02, 12:30
But it's an understandable one. The girl is weird and he has proper motivation, I think, to avoid her.
I understand his distaste for her exhibitionism and peeking, but I thought he would at least get a little turned on when Emiru directly admitted that she likes him.
I love Emiru's seductive advances. I wonder how long can Kido last.:heh: Seeing the raws to Volume five. He just got NTR'd BIG TIME. DAMn IT!
Shadow5YA
2011-01-02, 14:16
I love Emiru's seductive advances. I wonder how long can Kido last.:heh: Seeing the raws to Volume five. He just got NTR'd BIG TIME. DAMn IT!
If you mean Yuri, it's not that surprising. There was already some foreshadowing that she and Kido didn't match in ch11. Yuri also went off on her own a lot and went on the opposite train, despite claiming that she lived near him anyway. It should be obvious that Yuri was seeing somebody else.
There was also nothing between Yuri and Kido except for the sex. Everytime they met it had to do with literally hitting it off. Contrast this with Kido's relationship with Emiru, where they have talked about something that didn't lead to sex, like their school life and the entire ordeal with Shouko-sensei.
I love Emiru's seductive advances. I wonder how long can Kido last.:heh: Seeing the raws to Volume five. He just got NTR'd BIG TIME. DAMn IT!
Yeah, that's why I quit reading it awhile back after seeing that. It wasn't that NTR like they yell in KNIM about, but straight up the kind you see in hentai manga. If that's your thing then you'll probably won't mind. Dude was pretty screwed up after seeing it, both his reactions to seeing it and afterwards...
Bonta Kun
2011-01-02, 14:23
I love Emiru's seductive advances. I wonder how long can Kido last.:heh: Seeing the raws to Volume five. He just got NTR'd BIG TIME. DAMn IT!
If thats to do with Yuri then I think everyone expected it, I mean when he saw her getting into the car after the sudden call. You would have to be a total retard to not have clue at what was going on.
However if it's to do with Emiru then I would say that is abit surprising.
Shadow5YA
2011-01-02, 16:52
If thats to do with Yuri then I think everyone expected it, I mean when he saw her getting into the car after the sudden call. You would have to be a total retard to not have clue at what was going on.
However if it's to do with Emiru then I would say that is abit surprising.
I guess Kido is a total retard then. Oh well, at least Emiru can cheer him up now.
DragoZERO
2011-01-02, 22:31
Spoiler talk? *lalalala*
So, I just read chapter 14 and I have to say, I really hate when an author does that strange foreshadow, past tense talk, to tell you what's going to happen. I find it ruins things more, especially since it confirms what we may be speculating and predicting.
Shadow5YA
2011-01-02, 23:56
True, I do find that direct statements like the one at the end of ch14 to be a poor use of foreshadowing. Foreshadowing should be a bit more subtle where readers pick up on the hints and details on their own, like in ch11.
I tend to agree and disagree. I agree that it's a poor foreshadowing. But it's a great way to invite readers in how it will happen. And sometimes I think "physical" can be define in any other way like (sex, struggle) as long it's about body. But to add relationship, it's like you're having fetishes like S and M.:heh: (Maybe the translator defined the text too much).
DragoZERO
2011-01-08, 15:41
Chapter 15 is out... New girl already!? And I had such respect for the author. Tsk. Don't get me wrong, I still liked it. It was quite funny and tantalizing as well. It's just that I don't think we need a new girl right now, not to mention she is already in his pants.
lightbringer
2011-01-08, 16:18
Yeah, that's why I quit reading it awhile back after seeing that. It wasn't that NTR like they yell in KNIM about, but straight up the kind you see in hentai manga. If that's your thing then you'll probably won't mind. Dude was pretty screwed up after seeing it, both his reactions to seeing it and afterwards...
It's funny that he is so devastated when he himself wasn't exactly faithful all the time. He is a slave to his own desires after all. By the time the NTR stuff happens in volume 5, he has already slept with four different girls apart from his girlfriend (even though two of them were practically reverse rape).
With every girl jumping out of her panties the moment they meet the protagonist, the plot here is really secondary to the steamy sex. It's really basically hentai manga with a somewhat complex plot (and great drawings!).
Shadow5YA
2011-01-09, 01:34
It's funny that he is so devastated when he himself wasn't exactly faithful all the time. He is a slave to his own desires after all. By the time the NTR stuff happens in volume 5, he has already slept with four different girls apart from his girlfriend (even though two of them were practically reverse rape).
With every girl jumping out of her panties the moment they meet the protagonist, the plot here is really secondary to the steamy sex. It's really basically hentai manga with a somewhat complex plot (and great drawings!).
That, and he hasn't been that commited to Yuri anyway. When they were doing it in Kido's room, he went limp. That must have been a huge turnoff for Yuri.
DragoZERO
2011-01-22, 09:47
Chapter 16 is out...
Whoa... did not expect that. That guy truly is scum. He sure did go out of his way though... a little obsessive, no? I feel bad for our previously thought of new girl though... liking a guy like Horii... tsk. Well, it was a welcome twist that sure is keeping things interesting despite turning my stomach a little.
Irenicus
2011-01-23, 00:32
Ah yes Seinen manga, where the male leads actually have the balls to tap it when they have the opportunity.
Seinen manga, where after an interesting premise the male leads inevitably either fuck someone over really bad or get fucked over really bad? :heh:
Not aiming at you or anything mind, I just need a place to express my rage after reading more than one seinen manga where the mangaka decides it's "mature" to fuck over the readers like that.
Which leads to the question, since I didn't dare to open all the spoilers: is this one taking the same path?
ZODDGUTS
2011-01-23, 00:41
Just to be clear I meant that as when the male lead has a chance with the girl he likes or is with a relationship with, not backing out like a wuss like typical male leads in Shonen Manga. Didn't mean it as the male lead banging every single chick while being in a relationship with someone else. That just makes him a scumbag. :heh:
DragoZERO
2011-01-23, 12:01
Just to be clear I meant that as when the male lead has a chance with the girl he likes or is with a relationship with, not backing out like a wuss like typical male leads in Shonen Manga. Didn't mean it as the male lead banging every single chick while being in a relationship with someone else. That just makes him a scumbag. :heh:
That's how I took what you said. Not only do the male leads of shonen manga look for a way out, the story often provides one.
lightbringer
2011-01-23, 12:12
Which leads to the question, since I didn't dare to open all the spoilers: is this one taking the same path?
Depending on your tolerance level, pretty much, yeah.
DragoZERO
2011-01-23, 12:14
Ssssshhhhaaaddduuuuupp!
Damn! :frustrated:
ZODDGUTS
2011-01-23, 17:03
That's how I took what you said. Not only do the male leads of shonen manga look for a way out, the story often provides one.
This, so much.
Shadow5YA
2011-01-23, 22:05
It's pretty obvious that the main guy (Kido) will end up with the main girl (Emiru). However, what sets this apart from shounen and shoujo romances (aside from the sex) is that there are no other options or rivals for love.
Kido goes limp whenever Emiru is peeping on him. Any other girl Kido brings home will inevitably see his uninterested genitals, and because this is a series driven by lust and sexual passion, the girl will see it as a huge turn-off and the relationship will inevitably fall apart. He can't avoid Emiru because she is his neighbor, and he can't keep any other girlfriend he might have away from his room forever.
So then what are Kido's options?
A.) He could move away.
B.) He could stop caring about Emiru.
C.) He could get Emiru to stop peeping by making her lose interest.
D.) He could change his mind and see Emiru's peeping as a turn-on.
A will not happen, because it would ruin the setting and the centerpoint of the series. C probably will not happen either, because Kido's character doesn't have the ability to control Emiru. That leaves B and D left. However, B will also not happen, again because of Kido's character. He does care about her, or he is at least self-conscious of her. Emiru gets under his skin. There is no way he can pretend that he doesn't care about Emiru. That leaves the final option to cure his impotency -- change his mind and see Emiru's peeping as a huge turn-on. However, if he does that, he will also develop some kind of feeling towards Emiru, which will lead to Emiru reciprocating her feelings, and the two will end up in a relationship.
With Emiru around, there's no way Kido can end up with any other girl.
DragoZERO
2011-01-23, 23:30
This, so much.:D
It's pretty obvious that the main guy (Kido) will end up with the main girl (Emiru). However, what sets this apart from shounen and shoujo romances (aside from the sex) is that there are no other options or rivals for love.
Kido goes limp whenever Emiru is peeping on him. Any other girl Kido brings home will inevitably see his uninterested genitals, and because this is a series driven by lust and sexual passion, the girl will see it as a huge turn-off and the relationship will inevitably fall apart. He can't avoid Emiru because she is his neighbor, and he can't keep any other girlfriend he might have away from his room forever.To be fair, he went limp once. And I was surprised he did... that girl is so damn sexy, lol.
With Emiru around, there's no way Kido can end up with any other girl.I think the more correct thing to say is that she won't let him be with any other girl.
Shadow5YA
2011-01-24, 00:07
:D
To be fair, he went limp once. And I was surprised he did... that girl is so damn sexy, lol.
I think the more correct thing to say is that she won't let him be with any other girl.
Twice.
The first time was the only time Yuri came over so far, and the second was in the most recent chapter, ch16. He was limp before he was given head and physically stimulated.
DragoZERO
2011-01-24, 07:42
Twice.
The first time was the only time Yuri came over so far, and the second was in the most recent chapter, ch16. He was limp before he was given head and physically stimulated.
Really? I don't remember the first time. Hmph.
Shadow5YA
2011-03-04, 16:00
ch17 and 18 are out now.
This series is more erotic than most hentai I read filled with direct intercourse.
ZODDGUTS
2011-03-04, 18:28
ch17 and 18 are out now.
This series is more erotic than most hentai I read filled with direct intercourse.
Make sure you read Kono S o, Mi yo! manga if you like this series.
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=47705
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-03-04, 20:15
Just read chapter 18, and both my good and bad side have to respond to how the guy acted this time. YAY FOR MORALITY! and BOO BECAUSE YOU MUST BE EFFIN GAY OR SOMETHIN!
DragoZERO
2011-03-05, 11:42
ch17 and 18 are out now.
This series is more erotic than most hentai I read filled with direct intercourse.It really is tantalizing. :heh:
Make sure you read Kono S o, Mi yo! manga if you like this series.
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=47705I will check that one out, thanks.
Just read chapter 18, and both my good and bad side have to respond to how the guy acted this time. YAY FOR MORALITY! and BOO BECAUSE YOU MUST BE EFFIN GAY OR SOMETHIN!I have to admire his self-control myself.
DragoZERO
2011-03-05, 23:00
This series is more erotic than most hentai I read filled with direct intercourse.It's the author. He/she is good. Check out Nozomi to Kimio (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=63247).
Shadow5YA
2011-03-06, 00:48
I already have. When an ecchi manga arouses readers better than explicit hentai manga, you know it's good.
DragoZERO
2011-03-06, 11:43
I already have. When an ecchi manga arouses readers better than explicit hentai manga, you know it's good.
Aaand three chapters is all she wrote for that series. Bummer. I really liked it too, haha. But I didn't know a series could be canceled that quickly, it's like it didn't even get a chance.
Shadow5YA
2011-03-06, 13:27
Well, Nozomi to Kimio's high school setting is fairly generic. Nozoki Ana did a better job of making the setting a bit more different.
DragoZERO
2011-03-06, 15:20
Well, Nozomi to Kimio's high school setting is fairly generic. Nozoki Ana did a better job of making the setting a bit more different.
Not to mention it was seinen and not shonen.
Man... we need another chapter here. >.<
Ravenblitz
2011-03-06, 19:39
i love both.. but Nozomi to Kimio has only a few chapters scanlated
DragoZERO
2011-03-06, 21:47
i love both.. but Nozomi to Kimio has only a few chapters scanlated
The whole series is scanlated... all three chapters.
Shadow5YA
2011-03-25, 14:11
ch19 is out.
It seems like Kido and Emiru are relationship magnets. There was the teacher, then that guy who tried to rape Emiru and his girlfriend, and now there's another couple.
DragoZERO
2011-03-25, 14:38
I think he has a knack for getting people who he needs the least to get involved. In other words, he's looking to distance himself from Emiru, but the right people are around to push them together more.
And he is in a tight spot this time... :heh:
Shadow5YA
2011-06-08, 14:03
Someone else picked up ch20-21.. and it looks like they're also dropping it soon.
Emiru is rubbing off on Kido in more ways than one.
DragoZERO
2011-06-08, 14:55
They might stick with it. It was only the TL who didn't like, if not someone else will pick it up. It's an awesome series after all.
As for the story, I think this is the biggest cliche we've hit so far, so that's good. But Emiru is funny as always, preparing before hand and making sure to slip out just to look through the crack in the wall. :heh:
AcroDave
2011-06-09, 00:56
RE: Chapter 21 .... a new challenger appears?
Wasn't expecting another girl... or have we seen her before? my memory's not so good :p
DragoZERO
2011-06-10, 14:48
Chapter 22 is out...
Whaa!? I have to say, this is the best new girl introduction in a while. What a bitch! I wouldn't even let her in my room. "Go home, whore!" is what I'd say.
Chapters 23 and 24 are up over at black wing. Seems they want to keep it, too.
DragoZERO
2011-06-10, 18:35
Who cares about them keeping it.. those chapters were :eyespin:
Shadow5YA
2011-06-10, 20:42
I'm fine as along as there's a group that wants to continue with the series.
Man... Kido is just asking to get NTR'd by Yuri. Kido connecting with Emiru is a given, but he seems to emotionally understand every girl he's run across more than Yuri: the teacher, the girlfriend of that guy who wanted to rape Emiru, and now Kido's childhood friend. The only thing I'm see from Yuri is a materialistic sexfriend.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-11, 15:47
Did Emiru take off her panties right when she noticed Kido was peeping?
DragoZERO
2011-06-11, 22:48
Yeah. She was reading before then. She sure is an interesting character.
I'm fine as along as there's a group that wants to continue with the series.
Man... Kido is just asking to get NTR'd by Yuri. Kido connecting with Emiru is a given, but he seems to emotionally understand every girl he's run across more than Yuri: the teacher, the girlfriend of that guy who wanted to rape Emiru, and now Kido's childhood friend. The only thing I'm see from Yuri is a materialistic sexfriend.
Pretty sure he's already getting NTR'd. Those "calls" obviously aren't from her father.
Ch.30 was quite hot, and what a cliffhanger.
DragoZERO
2011-06-12, 10:48
Well, things sure are moving along here. I do feel bad for Emiru though. She really does like him.
Pretty sure he's already getting NTR'd. Those "calls" obviously aren't from her father.That would really suck... but would also be a good way of breaking this with her to lead to the Emiru ending.
Bafflement
2011-06-12, 11:33
That would really suck... but would also be a good way of breaking this with her to lead to the Emiru ending.
To be fair, the protagonist hasn't been the model of faithfulness himself, so even if it's true I'm not sure it would be fair to get too outraged on his behalf.
DragoZERO
2011-06-12, 11:42
To be fair, the protagonist hasn't been the model of faithfulness himself, so even if it's true I'm not sure it would be fair to get too outraged on his behalf.
I never said I would be outraged, just that it would suck. And even if he hasn't been a model of faithfulness, he still cares for the girl.
And I hope that if she does have another guy, that the reveal isn't too painful (for character and reader, lol.)
Shadowstorma
2011-06-12, 17:41
hello there i've just read the lastest chapters so i'm hyped up :D
just one Question does anyone know how much chapters there are so far in Japanese? (Raw)
mfg Shadow
DragoZERO
2011-06-12, 18:22
hello there i've just read the lastest chapters so i'm hyped up :D
just one Question does anyone know how much chapters there are so far in Japanese? (Raw)
mfg Shadow
I'm excited too. Things just got really interesting... I think there is going to be some rough heartbreak soon though... not looking forward to that.
As for the status in Japan... there are seven volumes out, with roughly eight chapters in each, so probably around 60 or so.
Shadowstorma
2011-06-12, 18:41
first of all thanks for the fast reply^^
then great news for everyone i think the 8 Volume will be put on Sale on 30 June^^
Shadow
Duo Maxwell
2011-06-12, 22:44
And I hope that if she does have another guy, that the reveal isn't too painful (for character and reader, lol.)
Depend on how you consider it's "painful", but I think it's kinda obvious, with all the hints they throw it out, so I already was prepared.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-12, 22:52
Despite all those hints, I wonder why Emiru still urged Kido to stay with Yuri. He was aware that his relationship with Yuri was more shallow than ever before. If he had gone through with it, it would save him from a lot of pain that's bound to happen.
Chandalen
2011-06-12, 22:59
Emiru: "Just according to Keikaku"
That said, it was fairly evident to me that she's been with someone else since pretty much the beginning. I'll be surprised if it's not the case. It's more a matter of how it is revealed, and even then I won't be terribly surprised/affected by it.
catched up to ch 36, and Oo things are gonna get hectic from here on out
Ravenest
2011-06-13, 16:08
That said, it was fairly evident to me that she's been with someone else since pretty much the beginning. I'll be surprised if it's not the case. It's more a matter of how it is revealed, and even then I won't be terribly surprised/affected by it.
I´m a weak man, so I´ve downloaded the raws until the end of vol 7 and all I can say is that those questions will be ansewered till then.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-13, 17:03
Is this series still ongoing, or did it finish in however many volumes?
DragoZERO
2011-06-13, 17:46
Despite all those hints, I wonder why Emiru still urged Kido to stay with Yuri. He was aware that his relationship with Yuri was more shallow than ever before. If he had gone through with it, it would save him from a lot of pain that's bound to happen.Because they didn't know better. And I don't think it's easy to tell that their relationship is shallow. You can see that they care for each other. I'm not sure what the deal is with Yuri, I do believe she cares for him, but she may be twisted (QB style) or something.
Is this series still ongoing, or did it finish in however many volumes?Eight volumes and counting!
After some time reading a chapter here and there i caught up with recent scans. Good series that has ecchi (seinen level at that :heh: ) and a good storyline so far.
What has impressed me the most is Emiru's character and how uniqe she is. She's extremely resolute, intelligent and absolutely in control of every situation (save for the end of chapter 38 maybe, but we'll have to see about that).
This is what I call a real strong female lead - not those usual female characters with fake strength that can beat anyone to a pulp but need to be saved by a male character the moment it's getting serious, activating their "damsel in distress" - switch.... and no, I'm not necessarily a feminist, just bored by the trope :p
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-13, 20:47
I'm starting to get a School Days flashback. The girl with the biggest set of breasts is also the same one that has the biggest set of insecurities-v-. Can someone photoshop a pic of Emiru with Sosuke Aizen's mullet form from Bleach? Emiru uses her just as planned powers for good-v-.
DragoZERO
2011-06-13, 21:10
After some time reading a chapter here and there i caught up with recent scans. Good series that has ecchi (seinen level at that :heh: ) and a good storyline so far.The art and ecchi are awesome. So tantalizing every time.
What has impressed me the most is Emiru's character and how uniqe she is. She's extremely resolute, intelligent and absolutely in control of every situation (save for the end of chapter 38 maybe, but we'll have to see about that).
This is what I call a real strong female lead - not those usual female characters with fake strength that can beat anyone to a pulp but need to be saved by a male character the moment it's getting serious, activating their "damsel in distress" - switch.... and no, I'm not necessarily a women's libber, just bored by the trope :pShe really is an amazing character. I love how one Kido comes up, her mood and attitude changes. And the part where she told him she loved him, so damn... cute. She can be cute and sexy, that's awesome.
I'm starting to get a School Days flashback. The girl with the biggest set of breasts is also the same one that has the biggest set of insecurities-v-. Can someone photoshop a pic of Emiru with Sosuke Aizen's mullet form from Bleach? Emiru uses her just as planned powers for good-v-.I think her 'just as planned' power is going to run out at some point.
Chandalen
2011-06-14, 00:23
/agree with Wavens' last post
I think the 'just as planned' is cracking a bit this last chapter (38 IIRC), but I don't doubt she'll recover and go back to revise whatever plans she has accordingly.
Mostly I'm just craving to read the next chapter constantly.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-14, 08:17
I really don't think Emiru is as complex as people think she is. She is definitely different, but at heart she is just a passionate girl who loves seeing (Kido's) emotion and relationships unfold right down to the sex.
Socially, Emiru is strange because she is so open about her sexuality when in most cases sex is a very taboo adult subject. Her values are different from the norm, which is why she has been said to have her own little "world".
It would be difficult to find the correct adjective to describe her, because any single word pinned on her would have some contradictions. For example, a person could all Emiru an exhibitionist, but that's not really an accurate term because she still keeps her sexuality private and is only open around Kido and in their apartment complex. Emiru can't be called lustful, because she is very picky about who and what she likes and knows how to control herself in public. There is just no way Emiru would make any sense from a "traditional" moral standpoint.
That is why Kido initially found Emiru to be an annoyance. For a person who is (or was) mostly normal and well grounded in society, being watched while having sex is a little disconcerting because sex is supposed to be a very private act with no third parties involved. However, I think that Emiru is still driven by a simple concept to see honest, passionate relationships unfold. To that end, she'll find ways to spy on Kido, who is physically honest himself, but I think that is the extent of Emiru's scheming.
Get PROzess' good-bye gift over at Black Wing (http://blackwingscans.blogspot.com/).
Thanks, PROzess, you'll be sorely missed.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-16, 19:28
Wowee, what a gift. Never gonna see THIS story as just an ecchi story again.
DragoZERO
2011-06-16, 19:49
Rage quit don't matter. What matters is the story, and that's what we should be talking about here. And for the record, I don't think it's good practice to link to scanlator sites. An indirect link, like MangaUpdate's group page, would be best.
:upset:
The author even did the cliche NTR reveal too. Well, I guess there is no better way of doing it when you want to drama. And even though I knew it was coming, it still hurt. And technically, this isn't NTR since she was already with the guy.
It was all predictable, like Emiru being the one to comfort him and all, but it was still good.
The pregnancy thing was bull. She does it raw with the 'weekend' guy but than pins it off on Kido. Seriously, what a bitch. I am glad he dumped her ass like he did.
And I am sorry but I really don't like when chapters are released like this. One at a time let's the drama build slower and gives a much bigger punch. I never thought I'd say that about a NTR-esque story, lol.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-16, 20:02
Blame the reason why he had to drop in the first place Drago. I bet Prozess felt the same way you do, but he didn't wanna leave on a sour note, so that's why probably the chapters were released in a row instead of one at a time. I think we can let it slide just this once^^. I never knew something like voyeurism can turn into such an implict to explicit addiction o.o. I'm gonna start using manga like these as my master's and doctorate's thesis>v<, this is genius>v<. So what happens now? Will volume 6 be the last volume?
Based on the one page preview of the next volume, it appears that Emiru and Kido finally get together the right way.
DragoZERO
2011-06-16, 20:46
Six, the last? Nahh... We're at eight and counting.
Rage quit don't matter. What matters is the story, and that's what we should be talking about here. And for the record, I don't think it's good practice to link to scanlator sites. An indirect link, like MangaUpdate's group page, would be best.
:upset:
The author even did the cliche NTR reveal too. Well, I guess there is no better way of doing it when you want to drama. And even though I knew it was coming, it still hurt. And technically, this isn't NTR since she was already with the guy.
It was all predictable, like Emiru being the one to comfort him and all, but it was still good.
The pregnancy thing was bull. She does it raw with the 'weekend' guy but than pins it off on Kido. Seriously, what a bitch. I am glad he dumped her ass like he did.
And I am sorry but I really don't like when chapters are released like this. One at a time let's the drama build slower and gives a much bigger punch. I never thought I'd say that about a NTR-esque story, lol.
Yes the NTR stuff was kinda painful, especially since Yuri has been shown to be quite cute 1-2 chapters before the revelation and it also didn't help to see afterwards how desperate she has been all the time. Still, she got it coming - At the page where we see her shocked face when seeing the broken toy I was evilly laughing maniacally like a mad scientist raising my hands only to scream "It is broken!" ... that felt incredibly good :D
As for the future, I'm quite sure this is the last NTR shit we've seen in this series. Especially since I hope we're finally ready for the main dish, which ofc is Emiru.
As for the volumes: Mangaupdates lists 7 completed, maybe with x chapters of the 8th already released in the mag.
Shinn Kamiyra
2011-06-16, 22:55
The whole sordid affair was like watching a car accident in slow motion. You know it's coming, little-by-little, yet you can't look away while everything comes to a head. Even so, he would've been totally in his right to rip into her more than he did. :/
Still not sure if it's Emiru's time to shine though. There hasn't been any kind of buildup to him admitting his obvious feelings for her, so... well, guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-16, 23:10
I'm glad Yuri at least had a trace of conscience after all of that, even if it was too late. If she doesn't stay with her old boyfriend, then that's still far better than the typical NTR found in h-anime and manga. She had it coming, but at least I got a little more than just rage out of it.
I also don't think it's Emiru's time to shine just yet. The drama is still fresh, so at best Kido is just using Emiru as a safety net. Other than her personality, we still don't know that much about Emiru herself. I'll consider their relationship in the home stretch if he's still with her when everything has cooled down.
It's not really NTR, he cheated on her with nearly every girl he met. The way I see it he had it coming.
Aesthetic Shampoo
2011-06-17, 01:46
...My God. This is by far the best ecchi/seinen on the planet. This people will read not for the sex every chapter, but for THE PLOT. This is how it should be. I applaud you, Honmyou Wakou, for writing something this amazing. This is how things of this genre should be. Of course, theres the sex that draws most people in, but when shit gets going, it is solid. I will be sad this will not be updated for awhile.
ZODDGUTS
2011-06-17, 03:04
If you think this is good you should check out Kono S o, Mi yo! and Sakuranbo Syndrome.
Darknemo2000
2011-06-17, 03:17
It's not really NTR, he cheated on her with nearly every girl he met. The way I see it he had it coming.
Technically its still NTR. It just doesnt feel so bad as NTR do because he himself cheated or nearly cheated with majority girls he met anyway.
...My God. This is by far the best ecchi/seinen on the planet. This people will read not for the sex every chapter, but for THE PLOT. This is how it should be. I applaud you, Honmyou Wakou, for writing something this amazing. This is how things of this genre should be. Of course, theres the sex that draws most people in, but when shit gets going, it is solid. I will be sad this will not be updated for awhile.
In that regard I still think Velvet Kiss is better. And has much better art to add but Nozoki Ana has its share too.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-17, 08:58
It was... mutual NTR. Wait what?
Unfortunately, the NTR is the only thing Kido and Yuri had in common. Had Kido come clean and revealed his secrets like Yuri did, and if both of them had the strength to forgive one another, they probably could have been together for real.
I'm glad that while it was obvious the two weren't fated to be together, the emotions were still there.
DragoZERO
2011-06-17, 10:27
Yes the NTR stuff was kinda painful, especially since Yuri has been shown to be quite cute 1-2 chapters before the revelation and it also didn't help to see afterwards how desperate she has been all the time. Still, she got it coming - At the page where we see her shocked face when seeing the broken toy I was evilly laughing maniacally like a mad scientist raising my hands only to scream "It is broken!" ... that felt incredibly good :DYes, it's good she had some pain in all this. She didn't deserve to get off scott-free.
As for the future, I'm quite sure this is the last NTR shit we've seen in this series. Especially since I hope we're finally ready for the main dish, which ofc is Emiru.Definitely no more NTR. But Emiru time will be a delicious dish. :D
As for the volumes: Mangaupdates lists 7 completed, maybe with x chapters of the 8th already released in the mag.Yeah. I also spoke to Proz and he said 8, so yeah.
The whole sordid affair was like watching a car accident in slow motion. You know it's coming, little-by-little, yet you can't look away while everything comes to a head. Even so, he would've been totally in his right to rip into her more than he did. :/It was, it really was. You're like "Noooo! Don't look!!" and then he does. And it had to take a while for him to finally see her too. The agony!!
I would hope we get some time for Kido to recover. I don't think Emiru would let herself be the rebound girl. What? Crying on a naked chest is something you do with a friend.
[QUOTE=Shadow5YA;3655544]I'm glad Yuri at least had a trace of conscience after all of that, even if it was too late. If she doesn't stay with her old boyfriend, then that's still far better than the typical NTR found in h-anime and manga. She had it coming, but at least I got a little more than just rage out of it.I hope she leaves that guy. But she's such a nymph and insecure girl, I doubt she'd dump him.
I also don't think it's Emiru's time to shine just yet. The drama is still fresh, so at best Kido is just using Emiru as a safety net. Other than her personality, we still don't know that much about Emiru herself. I'll consider their relationship in the home stretch if he's still with her when everything has cooled down.I hope the relationship starts after he cools down for a while. It wouldn't be a good way to start one.
It's not really NTR, he cheated on her with nearly every girl he met. The way I see it he had it coming.No, it isn't NTR since she was already with the guy, which is why I said NTR-eque. But when did he cheat with every girl!? It was only the childhood friend and he danced along a close line with Emiru. But, he did not deserve this. I would never wish this upon anyone. And this wouldn't affect the people who deserve anyway.
...My God. This is by far the best ecchi/seinen on the planet. This people will read not for the sex every chapter, but for THE PLOT. This is how it should be. I applaud you, Honmyou Wakou, for writing something this amazing. This is how things of this genre should be. Of course, theres the sex that draws most people in, but when shit gets going, it is solid. I will be sad this will not be updated for awhile.Haha, yeah, it is damn good. I forget how I came across it, now that I think about it.
Technically its still NTR. It just doesnt feel so bad as NTR do because he himself cheated or nearly cheated with majority girls he met anyway.Regardless of what he did, it still felt bad. He really cared for Yuri after all.
It was... mutual NTR. Wait what?
Unfortunately, the NTR is the only thing Kido and Yuri had in common. Had Kido come clean and revealed his secrets like Yuri did, and if both of them had the strength to forgive one another, they probably could have been together for real.Yeah... I don't think they would have had a very stable relationship should they both come clean. It's also better than he didn't tell Yuri all that stuff, otherwise she wouldn't feel so bad. She deserves some pain.
Hey Drago, why couldn't you make this into several posts instead of one? - I really want that "last page" - button on the thread overview page... it's easier to hit than the small number :heh:
on another note: If you find the time could you pls PM me in short what the deal was with the scanlator retiring from all those series since you've already spoke with him?
DragoZERO
2011-06-17, 11:31
Hey Drago, why couldn't you make this into several posts instead of one? - I really want that "last page" - button on the thread overview page... it's easier to hit than the small number :heh:Then you're browsing the forum wrong. Click the arrow to the left of the thread title. It'll take you to the last unread post.
Darknemo2000
2011-06-17, 11:55
No, it isn't NTR since she was already with the guy, which is why I said NTR-eque. But when did he cheat with every girl!? It was only the childhood friend and he danced along a close line with Emiru. But, he did not deserve this. I would never wish this upon anyone. And this wouldn't affect the people who deserve anyway.
You are wrong one here though. NTR can be even if the girl is already dating the guy but only it is revealed later. So yeah it fits NTR category tag, though there technically is no stealing. Irony, isnt it? But it certainly fits NTR.
You can see a few NTR games tagged as NTR and all though they circle about the revelation that the girl had the sexual connection way before she was with the MC.
In some cases there are NTR when the main guy only loves the heroine from afar while she just goes out with her boyfriend.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-17, 12:02
Regardless of what he did, it still felt bad. He really cared for Yuri after all.
Yeah... I don't think they would have had a very stable relationship should they both come clean. It's also better than he didn't tell Yuri all that stuff, otherwise she wouldn't feel so bad. She deserves some pain.
The point is that Kido is as guilty as Yuri, and he knows it. He already said that he was just as guilty as her, if not more for keeping everything he did a secret and blaming it all on Yuri.
Remember that Yuri also cared for Kido, even if it was a bit too late to matter.
Shinn Kamiyra
2011-06-17, 14:10
The point is that Kido is as guilty as Yuri, and he knows it. He already said that he was just as guilty as her, if not more for keeping everything he did a secret and blaming it all on Yuri.
Remember that Yuri also cared for Kido, even if it was a bit too late to matter.
I have to argue that point. Obviously Kido is guilty of a lot of stuff here, but I don't believe he's quite as guilty as Yuri.
Kido came close a lot of times, but when all is said and done, he still didn't have sex with anyone but Yuri. She did, a lot. In addition to that, she led him to believe that she might be pregnant with his child; which, all things considered, even if she were pregnant, the likelihood it was his would've been pretty low. Now I'm not making any excuses for Kido, but I don't believe he did anything that could be considered quite that bad.
DragoZERO
2011-06-17, 14:11
The point is that Kido is as guilty as Yuri, and he knows it. He already said that he was just as guilty as her, if not more for keeping everything he did a secret and blaming it all on Yuri.
Remember that Yuri also cared for Kido, even if it was a bit too late to matter.
But she had ill intent since the beginning. She was pre-meditated while Kido was passion. They are different. He is at fault with some things, but I think she worse than him.
I have to read it all again. I went through it too quick. One reason why I prefer to read or watch a little at a time.
Darknemo2000
2011-06-17, 15:35
The point is that Kido is as guilty as Yuri, and he knows it. He already said that he was just as guilty as her, if not more for keeping everything he did a secret and blaming it all on Yuri.
Remember that Yuri also cared for Kido, even if it was a bit too late to matter.
Thats not true. Yuri was already cheating him and using him since the very beginning and if my memory is right Kido never had sex (though came awfully close) with anyone other than Yuri.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-17, 17:11
Thats not true. Yuri was already cheating him and using him since the very beginning and if my memory is right Kido never had sex (though came awfully close) with anyone other than Yuri.
Instead, he has had foreplay with multiple girls to make up for Yuri's one. Sorry, but if someone else walked in on Kido getting a blow job fingering another girl naked, he would be in deep trouble.
You may think Kido is better than Yuri, but Kido himself believes that he's just as guilty as her. It's obvious that we would sympathize more with him because we see it through his perspective, but the idea is that they both had terrible secrets for a couple that was supposed to be so intimate, and that Kido never came clean with Yuri even in the end.
Darknemo2000
2011-06-17, 18:44
Instead, he has had foreplay with multiple girls to make up for Yuri's one. Sorry, but if someone else walked in on Kido getting a blow job fingering another girl naked, he would be in deep trouble.
You may think Kido is better than Yuri, but Kido himself believes that he's just as guilty as her. It's obvious that we would sympathize more with him because we see it through his perspective, but the idea is that they both had terrible secrets for a couple that was supposed to be so intimate, and that Kido never came clean with Yuri even in the end.
And you still utterly fail (as well as Kido himself) to convince me that Kido is equally guilty. Oh he is guilty that much is clear but really Yuki is still more guilty than he at the end of the line.
Are you related to Bill Clinton or something? And more guilty, does that even make sense? They were BOTH unfaithful end of story...
Then you're browsing the forum wrong. Click the arrow to the left of the thread title. It'll take you to the last unread post.
Ouch I was blind all these years :upset: ... however it disappears once clicked until a new post appears.
Anyway ... another discussion about NTR? Really? One of these blurry terms that is constantly evolving and changing through the internet? It lacks a clear definition, tagging an incident as NTR is just a matter of interpretation.
And why again is it important who of the two was more unfaithful? I think the point the author tried to make is that they never had a healthy relationship because both were unfaithful which lead both to some kind of sexual excapism. Just look at how often Kido made himself forget about his "issues" with Emiru by having sex. There was this side of him that wanted an emotional realtionship with Yuri as well but that doesn't mean he didn't use the sex to ignore his problems either, may just happened more unconcious and subtle.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-17, 20:01
And you still utterly fail (as well as Kido himself) to convince me that Kido is equally guilty. Oh he is guilty that much is clear but really Yuki is still more guilty than he at the end of the line.
You're grasping at straws now if you think it matters who is more guilty. I don't think either one cares about bragging rights on who is bad, but not as bad. They're both wrong at the end of the line.
Darknemo2000
2011-06-18, 01:57
You're grasping at straws now if you think it matters who is more guilty. I don't think either one cares about bragging rights on who is bad, but not as bad. They're both wrong at the end of the line.
Well its like saying hey you lied to me, and hey you killed a person equally bad. I think both a bad but Yuri is still quite a bit worse with what she did.
Anyway ... another discussion about NTR? Really? One of these blurry terms that is constantly evolving and changing through the internet? It lacks a clear definition, tagging an incident as NTR is just a matter of interpretation.
I think it is pretty ok defined. Sometimes bit complicated but if you play eroge games or visit the selling suites you should grasp the NTR.
NTR is basically loosing ones love interest interest.
However, in this case actual possesion of the said love interest is not needed. She could be already dating etc but the whole thing is portrayed from MC perspective and he still feels the loss and the frustration watching her and other away.
There are also many love interest (even not necessarily romantic one) like brother feeling loss of sister or son , loosing mother.
Still to sum up - its loosing loves interest, one-sided or not. The story should either be played from main guys perspective or the unfaithful girl (to show her guilt etc) or from third person perspective.
If its showed from the bad guy who does the stealing perspective then its not netorare anymore but a netori.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-18, 05:27
Well its like saying hey you lied to me, and hey you killed a person equally bad. I think both a bad but Yuri is still quite a bit worse with what she did.
That's a false analogy. A lie can be overlooked depending on the context. All the girls Kido has had in his room cannot. This is more like killing a person out of hatred and killing a person believing that person was bad. You can rationalize the former to be worse, but that difference is superficial at best.
Darknemo2000
2011-06-18, 05:48
That's a false analogy. A lie can be overlooked depending on the context. All the girls Kido has had in his room cannot. This is more like killing a person out of hatred and killing a person believing that person was bad. You can rationalize the former to be worse, but that difference is superficial at best.
He never did have sex though and she did many times. So the correct analogy would be threatening to kill and using the physical force, against the actual killing.
OceanBlue
2011-06-19, 19:47
Chapter 46 out! Man, I'm so glad we're going to keep getting translations for it.
I can't figure out what this is going to lead to though. If we have 8 volumes, what's going to happen after this?
DragoZERO
2011-06-19, 20:31
I am surprised. I thought we'd have a little more build up first. And I don't like that is just 'settling' on her either.
riverside
2011-06-19, 21:05
I am surprised. I thought we'd have a little more build up first. And I don't like that is just 'settling' on her either.
Yes! I agree on that to.
To me what saved the chapter was the fact that she didn't want to kiss him, despite being in love with him.
I can't figure out what this is going to lead to though. If we have 8 volumes, what's going to happen after this?
True. The fact isthat the peeping for now (ch46) is over and useless, lets see how the mangaka can keep us (me :D) hooked on.
Cheers!
Shadow5YA
2011-06-19, 22:40
I'm not buying it. I know Kido would aim for Emiru now, but he's still treating her as the rebound girl to help him recover from his ordeal with Yuri.
While Emiru wants to get in his pants, I think she also knows the position she's in and that Kido doesn't exactly love her yet.
Even putting aside the Yuri aftertaste, neither we or Kido know a thing about Emiru's life before she became neighbors with Kido. What was she like before then? Why did she choose to go to this college? Where did she live before? Did she have an interest in any other guy before? What about her past friends or family? I could go on, and Kido still has a lot to learn.
i just skipped ahead the bullshit and looked over every ch til v7 ends.
and i want v8 nao, i pretty much get the gist of everything just by looking at the pictures
The chapter ended just before they were about to do it so what do you think will happen? ... :rolleyes:
Clearly there will be some massive cockblock ahead lol. Such is the nature of all manga.
Only thing left to know is, what the cockblock is going to be lol. I sure hope its not something cheap like a phonecall.
Doh I see 38 then 46, I went to blackwing and I didn't see 39-45 :(
riverside
2011-06-20, 13:32
I agree on the cockblock, this is the beggining of this volume and still are missing many more chapters. If they get too much sex, the manga is almost over. And I don't want that :D
... because around the peeping hole is where the plot is all made.
Well, let us all pray for the next scanlation to be released tomorrow :)
Doh I see 38 then 46, I went to blackwing and I didn't see 39-45 :(
If you go to their mediafire folder you can download those chapters
Cheers!
Edit: thanks 4 heads up
A heads up, I'd remove that link as it's not allowed...
Shinn Kamiyra
2011-06-20, 20:41
I'm with the others in that we've seen far too little of Emiru's past, if anything at all, for her relationship with Kido to highlight the stage just yet. It would ruin all the suspense that's been built up about her if it does.
Beyond that though, it's my experience when a chapter ends like 46 did, it's almost always a sure sign that things won't turn out the way we might be led to expect them to. Almost sure something will happen.
I'm so glad we're continuing to get translations too. On top of that, the new translator that XscansX got seems to be even better than the old one.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-23, 11:13
ch47 is out.
Ha... and who said there wouldn't be any more peeping?
Great job of capturing Kido's perspective. Emiru's as much of a mystery as ever.
DragoZERO
2011-06-23, 12:59
Yeah, can't figure her out. I do get a kick out of how clever she is though.
Shadow5YA
2011-06-23, 14:05
It's true that Kido was just using Emiru to get over Yuri though. Whatever she's up to, I'm glad she didn't let herself become Kido's rebound girl.
Shinn Kamiyra
2011-06-23, 14:36
Goodness, Kido is so naive and innocent about himself, you almost have to feel sorry for him.
Emiru has me growing more and more curious about her. Really hoping we learn more about her past soon.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-23, 16:31
Wow, you gotta wonder how the heck they're gonna stretch this for, 8 volumes was it?, or so until they finally hook Kido and Emiru up?
Switch it up from peep hole to glory hole...?:heh:
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-23, 17:15
Holy endless hole references batman!
Shadow5YA
2011-06-23, 18:43
Wow, you gotta wonder how the heck they're gonna stretch this for, 8 volumes was it?, or so until they finally hook Kido and Emiru up?
We still know next to nothing about Emiru's circumstances. I'm sure revealing her backstory can take up an entire volume by itself.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-23, 20:28
Not to mention the fact that Kido has to develop actual feelings for her and not just I broke up with my bustiest bimbo girlfriend yet so I need something to calm my johnny down a notch.
DragoZERO
2011-06-23, 22:33
There is definitely plenty of ground to cover. We can even have some coming of age chapters for Kido too. But Emiru is awesome. No love and she puts the brakes on, you don't find that enough.
I was surprised when we saw Yuri. That was swept under the rug quickly.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-06-23, 23:16
You kinda have to wonder why Emiru keeps helping Kido after all those times he said what he felt about her, and dammit Kido you keep hurting her and you don't even realize it ya nut>.>. 8 volumes, and I hope we get a proper love scene between Emiry and Kido up in this mofo, with both sides saying they love each other this time, otherwise, I'm gonna do something wicked drastic, like, saying Kimi no Iru Machi is, an ok manga to read o.o. THAT'S RIGHT! I...went...there...
Shadow5YA
2011-06-24, 00:35
You kinda have to wonder why Emiru keeps helping Kido after all those times he said what he felt about her, and dammit Kido you keep hurting her and you don't even realize it ya nut>.>. 8 volumes, and I hope we get a proper love scene between Emiry and Kido up in this mofo, with both sides saying they love each other this time, otherwise, I'm gonna do something wicked drastic, like, saying Kimi no Iru Machi is, an ok manga to read o.o. THAT'S RIGHT! I...went...there...
It's not like Emiru's interest in Kido is dependant on him liking her back. She does care for him, but she also knows him too well and isn't afraid to play the bad cop.
For example, when Makiko ran out crying and Kido asked Emiru why, she basically said what amounts to "too bad, so sad". Now we learn from Makiko herself that Emiru went to go apologize without Kido knowing and took full responsibility.
riverside
2011-06-28, 17:28
I disagree that Emiru likes Kido. Emiru likes peeping on Kido, and goes out of her way to make things as they are. So he can stay in that room with some chick he knows and luckilly Emiru in the other room peeping.
It seems that the roles in the main characters are mixed. Perhaps one might imagine Emiru's personality more like a guy (with the peeping, and strong leading) and Kido's more like a girl ( submissive towards Emiru), if you know what I mean.
Chapter 47 was unexpected to me, but seeing 48 seems to me more of the same (in a good way). Perhaps new gf and Emiru playing Kido however she wants, again! :)
What do you expect from 49?
Shadow5YA
2011-06-28, 17:41
I disagree that Emiru likes Kido. Emiru likes peeping on Kido, and goes out of her way to make things as they are. So he can stay in that room with some chick he knows and luckilly Emiru in the other room peeping.
It seems that the roles in the main characters are mixed. Perhaps one might imagine Emiru's personality more like a guy (with the peeping, and strong leading) and Kido's more like a girl ( submissive towards Emiru), if you know what I mean.
Chapter 47 was unexpected to me, but seeing 48 seems to me more of the same (in a good way). Perhaps new gf and Emiru playing Kido however she wants, again! :)
What do you expect from 49?
Emiru occasionally goes the extra mile when it has nothing to do with the peeping rule though. She never had to apologize to Makiko.
Anyway, looks like ch48 is out, and oh boy... is Kido going to score a virgin this time?
DragoZERO
2011-06-28, 18:50
I was wondering if there was going to be a new girl or something. I love how she is a complete opposite from Yuri in many regards. Should be interesting.
And that cell phone picture was out of no where, haha.
Shadow5YA
2011-07-12, 07:42
In retrospect, if Emiru needed to blackmail Kido she never needed to record a new video. She could have used that picture she took when they first met and framed him into groping her.
ch49 is out. I somehow get the feeling that Emiru and Kido are running some sexual relationship counseling. How many people have they come across like this? I'm sure they're going to do something about Madoka's insecurity with her virginity.
DragoZERO
2011-07-12, 10:22
This situation seems awfully familiar... :rolleyes:
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-07-21, 21:45
So chapter 50, the countdown to the end has begun.
It's kinda obvious that by that time he'll have been fallen for her completely, even more than now, he just needs to realize it.
DragoZERO
2011-07-22, 09:11
Yeah... the original zing is gone now. It's just the inevitable. Throwing that type of character into the mix now is a good move though.
Shadow5YA
2011-07-22, 11:12
Isn't there still at least a whole volume to go? We still don't know much about Emiru.
We're at about 2/3 of volume 6 when it comes to scanlated chapters, whereas there are already volume 7 and 8 released (the latter just recently).
Shadow5YA
2011-07-22, 13:43
It also took five volumes to finish the first year. Unless the pace speeds up dramatically, Kido still has a long way to go.
Chapter 51
Looks like we are already moving over to another girl, this one has some big melons :heh:
Shadow5YA
2011-07-27, 08:21
"I want to touch her breasts."
Emiru is amazing.
DragoZERO
2011-07-27, 14:01
"I want to touch her breasts."
Emiru is amazing.
:heh: Yeah, that was the best part of the chapter.
Even better when she actually sunk into them like into a pillow. :heh:
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-08-10, 18:26
Chapter 52 is out, I swear, Nao, she's like older Emiru o.o. 10 bucks say she and Emiru are in cahoots.
Shadow5YA
2011-08-10, 21:38
Is it just me, or has Kido been having more internal dialogue since Yuri?
Shadow5YA
2011-08-19, 08:35
If anyone hasn't noticed yet, xscansx moved sites, and ch53 is out.
I spy with my little eyes... a girl who's spying with her little eyes.
DragoZERO
2011-08-21, 21:37
We reached the point where the series should have begun it's final pairing and finish.
Shadow5YA
2011-08-21, 23:12
Not really. Kido is still hurt over Yuri and Emiru's second blackmail, and Emiru only recently proposed her time limit. Also if you consider how long Kido's first year and his relationship with Yuri took to end, that was five volumes. Scans are only up to the sixth volume.
Started reading it, though it would be like velvet kiss or worse.
Damn I was positively suprised, story is about 2-3 times better than VK, not to mention that all characters have their flaws but act realistically, even NTR was positively received, and that is a feat in itself.
Chapter 54
That was quite something. Wasn't expecting her to leave so quickly but "their night" seems to have had a positive effect on Kido.
Looks like Madoka is on his to do list next :heh:
DragoZERO
2011-08-29, 09:16
It was an okay chapter. We've lost the luster this series had when it was still young, like so many others. Don't get me wrong though, it's still an enjoyable series and the art is as titillating as ever, but the freshness is gone.
Bafflement
2011-08-29, 09:51
It was an okay chapter. We've lost the luster this series had when it was still young, like so many others. Don't get me wrong though, it's still an enjoyable series and the art is as titillating as ever, but the freshness is gone.
I'm not sure I'd say it has gone stale, rather my issue with the recent chapters is that Emiru seems to make even less sense than before.
Shadow5YA
2011-08-29, 11:40
The thing is that we know where it's going to go: Kido needs to get over his failure with Yuri and get to Emiru. Unless there's some development on that front every new girl is going to come off as filler.
Things get heated up in v7-8 so I'm waiting for scanlation to get there to get some great story moments. (as there some to be much of drama looking at the pictures)
Shadow5YA
2011-08-30, 02:24
Kido still seems to antagonize Emiru a bit.
bumbayker
2011-09-01, 04:15
The thing is that we know where it's going to go: Kido needs to get over his failure with Yuri and get to Emiru. Unless there's some development on that front every new girl is going to come off as filler.
True. Well it seems like Emiru wants Kido to love her genuinely and not become a replacement of Yuri. It would be too easy and no fulfillment if they ended up together right after the break up. She definitely loves Kido though in a strange way. I wonder what's preventing her from becoming his actual love interest. I hope we get to some of Emiru's past after volume 8.
From the raws of volume 7 and 8 Madoka ends up being Kido's new girlfriend. Unlike Yuri, she gets along with Emiru which can be a big problem. Madoka is such a sweet girl and she breaking up with Kido in the future for Emiru doesn't seem plausible. Either something tragic happens to Madoka its very unlikely Kido will end with Emiru at this point.
True. Well it seems like Emiru wants Kido to love her genuinely and not become a replacement of Yuri. It would be too easy and no fulfillment if they ended up together right after the break up. She definitely loves Kido though in a strange way. I wonder what's preventing her from becoming his actual love interest. I hope we get to some of Emiru's past after volume 8.
From the raws of volume 7 and 8 Madoka ends up being Kido's new girlfriend. Unlike Yuri, she gets along with Emiru which can be a big problem. Madoka is such a sweet girl and she breaking up with Kido in the future for Emiru doesn't seem plausible. Either something tragic happens to Madoka its very unlikely Kido will end with Emiru at this point.
I still wonder about the expression of emiru in next chapter. There is so much facial emotions but I cannot get what all of them will mean, so I'm waiting for next chapter scanlated ^^.
Shadow5YA
2011-09-12, 13:20
lol Kido got called a virgin
Anyway, chapter 53 is out. Sometimes I wonder if Emiru will really disappear and Kido won't end up with her after all.
DragoZERO
2011-09-13, 13:51
He's a skilled virgin. :heh:
Kido will definitely end up with Emiru. I feel bad for Madoka though. Hopefully she comes out of this okay.
bumbayker
2011-09-14, 12:54
He's a skilled virgin. :heh:
Kido will definitely end up with Emiru. I feel bad for Madoka though. Hopefully she comes out of this okay.
Personally I don't think they'll be together in the end. The way Emiru is playing her cards she somehow treats Kido like the best friend whom you don't want getting into a serious relationship with. Not that she doesn't want Kido to genuinely fall in love with her. But I just don't see them as couple at all. Madoka is like the ideal girlfriend for Kido and breaking up with her just for Emiru would be far messier than what happened with Yuri. I don't think Emiru would want that to happen since she supports him in his relationships. The only way I see a possible Kido x Emiru ending if a great tragedy falls upon Madoka forcing her to end their relationship.
I disagree. I think it's quite obvious that this series is going to end in a Kido x Emiru one way or another. It may take some time but i see it almost inevitable given how the story is structured. First, they make the classic "odd couple" , one of romance fiction's most used devices, the "perfect" girlfriend rarely is the winner but the girl the protagonist has the most "friction" with. This leads to second, Kido is annoyed by Emiru in the beginning but is slowly growing more and more fond of her, it's almost too obvious and anothe classic device. Finally, there is no girl that has been introduced from the start who is still in the game. Madoka joined after what, 5/6 volumes? When it comes to final pairing this is a death sentence.
And about Emiru treating Kido just as a friend... well, let's wait and see how the current date with Madoka turns out.
bumbayker
2011-09-14, 22:56
Well nothing is set in stone yet. Just because the scenario may seems obvious and cliched like in other romance mangas it doesn't mean Nozoki Ana would end in a similar fashion. It would be rather bland if we're just simply waiting for the inevitable end. Even if none of other girls introduced are currently not in the game it doesn't mean they can't come back and attempt to take Kido in the future. If Kido does end with Emiru at the manga's finale Honna Wakou better provide a good enough plot development and explanation resulting to that. I'd hate to see Kido simply dump Madoka because he just realizes he's in love with Emiru. At the latest point of the manga (volume 8) Kido and Madoka are so intimate with each other that they not being together in the end doesn't seems feasible. Not to mention Madoka gets along with Emiru just fine. Something really big has to happen if their relationship were to end.
HayashiTakara
2011-09-15, 14:40
Just started reading this and I'm enjoying it, with only two annoyances.
The main protagonist is such a little bitch, you'd expect someone better in a seinen. And lastly, the weeaboo translation is annoying, I mean seriously, just translate arigato to thank you and so forth. Its disjointing to read in english with romanji thrown in.
Shadow5YA
2011-09-15, 14:43
Just started reading this and I'm enjoying it, with only two annoyances.
The main protagonist is such a little bitch, you'd expect someone better in a seinen. And lastly, the weeaboo translation is annoying, I mean seriously, just translate arigato to thank you and so forth. Its disjointing to read in english with romanji thrown in.
That scanlator dropped the series a few volumes in and others picked it up.
HayashiTakara
2011-09-15, 14:50
That scanlator dropped the series a few volumes in and others picked it up.
Oh? Thank God. I don't have to subject myself to it any longer than necessary :heh:
Japanzai translates it and for me they gained a lot of respect with their speed of translation on many projects.
HayashiTakara
2011-09-15, 20:08
Ok read up to 56 and...
Man the drama is really good. Emiru is too strange for words, although I kinda understand her a little, I think she pulled the video thing because Kido didn't say "I love you" when they were about to have sex.
I don't think those two are gonna hook up at the end, at least I hope not :heh:
Anyway, the scene with Tama was heart wrenching, and man the whole thing with Yuri was both sad and enraging, it really stirs up some bad memories lol :heh:
bumbayker
2011-09-15, 21:53
I think she pulled the video thing because Kido didn't say "I love you" when they were about to have sex.
Not really. Emiru planned it from the start. That time she knew that Kido was still depressed from his recent break up with Yuri. Kido was merely finding a replacement girlfriend and not someone to fall in love with.
I don't think those two are gonna hook up at the end, at least I hope not :heh
I don't think they will either. But I'm not close to the possibility that they will as long as the author makes the story's development believable enough that they're final pairing.
Shadow5YA
2011-09-15, 23:23
As interesting as Kido and Emiru are together, I really don't want to see them together until we get a little more backstory on Emiru. We still have no idea where she came from, why she is interested in Kido, if she did the peeping rule with anyone else in the past, if she was with anyone in the past, how she acted in the past, etc.
I could go on. Even though Emiru is always present, this is still primarily Kido's story. At the moment, we even know more about Yuri than we do Emiru.
Shadow5YA
2011-09-17, 00:51
Chapter 57 is out.
I don't get it... what exactly did Kido signal to Emiru that got her riled up anyway?
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-09-17, 01:12
I guess the peace sign meant like a firm retaliation of Emiru's declaration of war. You wanna peep? PEEP AWAY! I'M SURVIVING THESE 11 MONTHS UNTIL YOU GTFO YOU ONANI'ING PIECE OF WACK JOB!
Haha, he is no longer afraid to being peeped. Emiru was caught off-guard.
bumbayker
2011-09-17, 03:51
I think Emiru realized that she's no longer has the advantage. She's didn't get turned on from peeping Kido having sex with Madoka. Possibly because she was riding on Kido's insecurity and lack of self-confidence that excites her. Now with Kido's confidence he's not afraid to expose himself to Emiru. And unlike his senseless relationship with Yuri, Kido has truly found love with Madoka.
That wasn't the Peace sign, but the Victory sign, at least that's how I understood it.
Wait for 58 chapter eagerly, based on raws and emiru expression there goes some meaningful/heavy shit.
Just picked this one up, definitely one worth following on. I am kinda glad that Kido finally is sort of having the upperhand for the first time, but no doubt Emiru will have some sort of retaliation. Can't wait for the next chap.
DragoZERO
2011-09-18, 09:23
Chapter 58 is out...
Ohhhh snap! I feel bad for Emiru. I wonder what Kido is going to do now... heh.
Nice, new chap already.
Basically, her head tells her she wants to just keep on peeping on him while he is having sex with another girl, but she feels jealous and agitated when it happens. Hmm, looks like things are moving in quite a nice direction for now.
Shadow5YA
2011-09-21, 08:24
59 is out.
Kido just can't get rid of Emiru. She isn't even trying this time and they still end up together.
Chandalen
2011-10-03, 00:43
60-62 out...
Oh my :o
Can't wait for the next chap, looks like it might be the end of this arc maybe? And damn, this story is so good, haven't read such a good manga in a while, and I think Emiru's character plays a huge role in that.
DragoZERO
2011-10-03, 17:48
Haha, funny stuff. I wonder how they will be interrupted there, hehe.
And I want to say the cleaning is a tragedy with these releases.
Hell as much as I get so fast translations from japanzai I don't care how big watermarks they will leave. I didn't get deep into that little war of theirs, but as much as I care they can watermark any stuff they want. Mostly I don't even read the watermarks they are just there and I don't see them, especially in boootm as it seems that was the case.
As for chapter its obvious that his girlfriend will get there, its a law of manga, otherwise nozoki ana would be already over.
DragoZERO
2011-10-03, 18:11
I'm not talking about the watermarks, I mean the editing of the image. They used Topaz which removed all of the texture.
Shadow5YA
2011-10-03, 18:35
Wait... Kido really didn't know Emiru liked him? All this time he said he knew and it turns out he only thought Emiru had nothing more than a peeping fetish with him?
These cliffhangers are really too much for me, now I absolutely must know what that tiny, insignificant thing is.
So looks like the feelings are mutually confirmed, and in the next volume others will start getting involved as well, good to see as it will certainly push things forward. Can't wait to read it.
Chapter 62
She grabbed his dick and he.. wow O_O
I really hate the MC in this, this guy just got a great GF and he's already cheating on her... I bet the mangaka will write some BS about her being psycho so that we don't feel bad for her when she finds out about the peeping/cheating or gets dumped.
I really hate the MC in this, this guy just got a great GF and he's already cheating on her... I bet the mangaka will write some BS about her being psycho so that we don't feel bad for her when she finds out about the peeping/cheating or gets dumped.
Yea no kidding. I really hope the author don't make some cop out like he did last time, though in the same sense he almost has to or how are we supposed to enjoy reading a series about a guy who basically looks for girls to cheat on with.
Shadow5YA
2011-10-04, 15:33
I really hate the MC in this, this guy just got a great GF and he's already cheating on her... I bet the mangaka will write some BS about her being psycho so that we don't feel bad for her when she finds out about the peeping/cheating or gets dumped.
The hell did this come from? Emiru makes a move on Kido and now he's the one cheating?
The hell did this come from? Emiru makes a move on Kido and now he's the one cheating?
Did she force his hand where it went? And what was he going to do before she knocked on the door?
He didn't exactly push her away... If it were the other way around and some bishounen made a move on his gf and she didn't refuse strongly, there'd be about 4 pages of rage in this thread by now.
EDIT: BTW TheEroKing, what anime are your avatar and sig from?
Shadow5YA
2011-10-04, 15:50
Did she force his hand where it went? And what was he going to do before she knocked on the door?
I would not condemn a man just for something that I think might happen but did not. They're not fucking.
The ass grope may be inappropriate, but he hasn't crossed the line just yet.
DragoZERO
2011-10-04, 15:58
I was afraid of this... why can't the lead be single when he gets together with the heroine for the ending of the series?? :rolleyes:
I would not condemn a man just for something that I think might happen but did not. They're not fucking.
The ass grope may be inappropriate, but he hasn't crossed the line just yet.
You have a girlfriend or boyfriend?
Sub them into this situation. How would you feel being this innocent person with your first ever girlfriend and she is off giving another guy a handjob and letting some guy finger her and grab her ass.
Would that be cool by you?
EDIT: BTW TheEroKing, what anime are your avatar and sig from?
That would be CubexCursedxCurious or C3 Cube anime...
As to Kido not doing anything wrong, yeah sure. If that was your girl friend you wouldn't hesitate to put him through the wall if you walked in on that situation. Well unless that sort of stuff floats your boat I suppose you'd be ok with it...
You have a girlfriend or boyfriend?
Sub them into this situation. How would you feel being this innocent person with your first ever girlfriend and she is off giving another guy a handjob and letting some guy finger her and grab her ass.
Would that be cool by you?
I call lawyered on that, very true. It may be nice to have some progression for what I deem the obvious final pairing but this way is just wrong, which is why I think this attempt will utterly fail - the author won't present such a double-standard here when Kido has just recovered from his devastating cheated-on experience.
Emiru is to some degree at fault here, she had a sudden realization of her feelings and the encouragement to express them, thus putting him between a rock and a hard-on (corny, I know)
Shadow5YA
2011-10-04, 17:33
You have a girlfriend or boyfriend?
Sub them into this situation. How would you feel being this innocent person with your first ever girlfriend and she is off giving another guy a handjob and letting some guy finger her and grab her ass.
Would that be cool by you?
You want a realistic situation? Drop the manga a few chapters in, because there's no way in hell I would let a giant gaping hole in the wall or this peeping tease last for over a year. Forget Madoka -- Yuri would have never happened either. Exactly how many situations involving sex have Kido and Emiru witnessed without being found out by their circle of friends in school? After all the close calls Kido has been through and you're calling him out now? This is nothing compared to everything that has happened before.
I wouldn't have agreed to a relationship with Kido in the first place when Emiru has been in the way since the beginning.
HayashiTakara
2011-10-04, 19:17
The author seems to be into NTR... *head explodes*
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-10-04, 19:21
Been there, done that. Doing it like that, at least to me and my fiancé, always feels the best. Lucky for us we didn't do it because of cheating^^;;. I wonder what's gonna be the thing that exposes them both?
DragoZERO
2011-10-04, 19:38
The author seems to be into NTR... *head explodes*
Japan is into NTR. It's a big problem on many fronts. *heart explodes*
SoFarGone
2011-10-04, 19:42
Japan is into NTR. It's a big problem on many fronts. *heart explodes*
are they into that in real life too?
DragoZERO
2011-10-04, 19:43
are they into that in real life too?
I have no idea. Do you want me to clarify and say anime and manga are into??
The thing about NTR is that it's so much more brutal in anime and manga. It's all over Western stories. Friggin Harry Potter has it! :heh:
HayashiTakara
2011-10-04, 22:42
are they into that in real life too?
No, its just a porno fetish.
Lol, so I guess that guy is going to blackmail his way into peeping and possibly having sex with Erimu.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-10-12, 16:58
Well guys, if you wanna check out some spoiler pics of volume 9, check the Noz. A. thread in OneManga. They have them pics.
Shadow5YA
2011-10-13, 03:24
That's one hell of a rape face Mochitsuki has in ch64...
This will most certainly force Kido to interact with Emiru. Good stuff.
DragoZERO
2011-10-13, 11:20
Boy that was stupid... seriously, I would have just beat him into submission without telling him anything, pour alcohol all over him and leave him on the side of the road somewhere. Get him picked up by the cops so he'd lose all credibility. And then get him expelled from the school too.
Boy that was stupid... seriously, I would have just beat him into submission without telling him anything, pour alcohol all over him and leave him on the side of the road somewhere. Get him picked up by the cops so he'd lose all credibility. And then get him expelled from the school too.
lol you make a pretty good Lelouch :p
jerkette
2011-10-14, 05:52
I think Mochitsuki discovering the hole will be a very significant push to Kido and Emiru's relationship. And I hope we'll be getting a whole lot more backstory on Emiru.
Shadow5YA
2011-10-14, 09:51
Boy that was stupid... seriously, I would have just beat him into submission without telling him anything, pour alcohol all over him and leave him on the side of the road somewhere. Get him picked up by the cops so he'd lose all credibility. And then get him expelled from the school too.
Are Kido and Emiru even that strong?
HayashiTakara
2011-10-14, 13:34
Wow, that guy is a bigger douche than I initially thought. His facial expressions is just as sleezy as they get... Man, I have a horrible feeling about this.
DragoZERO
2011-10-14, 17:11
lol you make a pretty good Lelouch :pThanks, thanks.
Are Kido and Emiru even that strong?I'm sure they can manage something along those lines... haha.
Wow, that guy is a bigger douche than I initially thought. His facial expressions is just as sleezy as they get... Man, I have a horrible feeling about this.The sad part is Madoka is going to be the one to lose out the most.
Chandalen
2011-10-14, 19:18
The sad part is Madoka is going to be the one to lose out the most.
Yep that's certainly true. I just hope this doesn't get too distasteful before it's over. Not that anyone is a saint in this manga, but even then some lines don't need to be crossed just because others have.
Shadow5YA
2011-10-14, 22:46
I really hope we'll get a mutual breakup between Kido and Madoka, or Madoka initiating it. I'm hoping that Madoka realizes who Emiru likes and comes to understand on her own that it just wasn't meant to be.
I really hope we'll get a mutual breakup between Kido and Madoka, or Madoka initiating it. I'm hoping that Madoka realizes who Emiru likes and comes to understand on her own that it just wasn't meant to be.
Considering that Kido's and Emiru's relationship has gone from physical to I'm sure now emotional, chances of them getting together are quite high.
During the volume (8 I believe) Kido's has been more aware of Emiru and even stated that when he's with her he gets excited and keeps wanting more. At this point he's definitely sorting out his feelings regarding his current girlfriend and his obviously mixed and yearning feelings for Emiru.
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2011-11-06, 15:35
65 is out, looks like someone is getting a bit of a power trip here-v-
Shadow5YA
2011-11-23, 09:53
Chapter 66 is out.
Looks like there's a plan underway.
Shadow5YA
2011-12-25, 15:51
Chapters up to 69 are scanlated.
What the hell did Emiru do to herself at the end of the chapter?
DragoZERO
2011-12-29, 16:21
Madoka is so damn awesome. I'm adding her to the list of anime girls I wish were real, hahaha.
Tenchi Hou Take
2011-12-29, 21:27
Madoka is so damn awesome. I'm adding her to the list of anime girls I wish were real, hahaha.
I'm sure there actually is some girl like that out there. Or at least was at some time. She's not that particularily unique a personality.
BadtheGuy
2012-01-09, 06:08
So didn't Emiru actually lose her virginity back in chapter 28? That sfx is tearing/ripping right?
Saber024
2012-01-13, 01:50
got up to ch66.
the sex parts are ok, but the story is better. i love it.
Chapter 73 & 74.
Rie tries to "play" with Emiru, wanting her and Kido to have sex. Emiru doesn't mind doing it with him but he refuses.
A little intrusion by Yoneyama leads to some girl-on-girl action :naughty:
At the end of chapter 74 Rie gets played by Emiru instead, that girl must have some crazy techniques with her fingers :heh:
Sinestra
2012-02-15, 11:36
For the love of Christ does Eimu have vibrators as fingers she made Rie come in no time flat. Well thats what you get when you mess with the devil. Looks Yoneyama feels terrible about lying and wants to confess but its hard for him to do. At least he feels bad thats a good friend right there.
The problem now is as expect Rie is just as fucked up and crazy as i thought. After everything that happen in chapter 73&74 Rie declaration is to break up whatever "Relationship" Eimu and Kido have in the most detestable and cruelest way she can think of. Why would she do this? Simple she says that it would be interesting. Damn this girl is a bitch but our heros are going to have to think fast because i see this whore ruining both of them. But Eimu has proven multiple times that she is very adept at dealing with difficult situations. In the end it may be Rie who gets burned but not without some difficult times ahead.
damn this waiting is going to suck.
DragoZERO
2012-02-18, 10:53
Fun pair of chapters. When will people learn not to mess with Emiru? :heh:
On a side note, I am not downloading these chapters from the scanlator's site anymore. Making me disable my Adblock so they can make money is wrong. Scanlators live on donations.
Sinestra
2012-03-07, 17:03
chapters 75-76 are available for reading 77 is translated but being delayed released because of some shady practices by some manga sites.
Darknemo2000
2012-03-08, 03:49
So didn't Emiru actually lose her virginity back in chapter 28? That sfx is tearing/ripping right?
Yeah. He did seem to put in back then and she slapped him after that.
Sinestra
2012-03-08, 12:09
Yeah. He did seem to put in back then and she slapped him after that.
no she did not loose her virginity he got like just the tip in but did not penetrate fully
DragoZERO
2012-03-08, 21:56
*throws flag* Technicality!
DragoZERO
2012-03-20, 22:59
Knee socks... FOR THE WIN!!!
As for the story... I suppose we are going to have one last fun chapter and then a sad one or two with Madoka. Why do all the sweet girls have to get hurt.
BladeEntity
2012-03-29, 15:13
Question is will Emiru have a happy ending... The dynamics of their relationship makes this series so interesting and yet it is based around the peeping, take it away and what will we have, is the ultimate question for me.
It's a long shot considering that many people have found out about the hole and the "relationship" between Kidou and her. I won't be surprised if Kidou's ex finds out about it in later chapters.
DragoZERO
2012-03-29, 18:54
I am expecting a happy end, but it's the journey that will matter. Kidou is too attached to her for her to disappear.
I've read 77 and too me things will definitely be messy.
Question is will Emiru have a happy ending... The dynamics of their relationship makes this series so interesting and yet it is based around the peeping, take it away and what will we have, is the ultimate question for me.
I thought it was not just the peeping but their natural attraction to each other, yet Kido as well often mistakes the peeping to be the focal point of their relationship. Whenever the two are in an intimate situation with each other (e.g. closet at the beach) Kido would think something like "never felt like this before" "I only ever feel this way with her".
Ironically, if Emiru didn't start the whole peeping deal and they got to know each other and start to date like two normal people we would've had the "happy ending" after just 5 chapters or so. But hey, that wouldn't make for an interesting story, right? ;)
BladeEntity
2012-03-30, 13:33
I thought it was not just the peeping but their natural attraction to each other, yet Kido as well often mistakes the peeping to be the focal point of their relationship. Whenever the two are in an intimate situation with each other (e.g. closet at the beach) Kido would think something like "never felt like this before" "I only ever feel this way with her".
Ironically, if Emiru didn't start the whole peeping deal and they got to know each other and start to date like two normal people we would've had the "happy ending" after just 5 chapters or so. But hey, that wouldn't make for an interesting story, right? ;)
But some of the developments of their relationship that was shown and was focused upon where through their relationship, the natural attraction came later as they become friends, the initial bond that mattered was the "peeping" through that they are closest at least at the moment. We see this when they are defending their peeping from the kouhai. We see how much they care for their secret and what they would do to protect it. eg. Kidou was worried about Emiru when even when he was with Madoka. I think this all on Emiru and her reasons for starting the peeping without it I think she would not be able to,open up to Kidou as much as she has. There is a deep contrast between how she acts with other characters compared to him.
Shadow5YA
2012-03-30, 15:29
I don't think Emiru was initially in love with Kido since the beginning of the series. It was only after all the problematic relationships the two had to witness and deal with did Emiru realize that Kido is a real stand up guy.
^
I'm not talking about actual love that ofc has to develop over time but for Emiru to even start the peeping agreement with Kidou she had to be attracted to him somehow. Otherwise she'd be pictured as a sexual maniac that would've done the peeping deal with just anyone, which btw, if I remember correctly, was one of Kidous misconceptions as well.
@BladeEntity: I agree that without the peeping Emiru probably wouldn't have opened to Kidou and naturally the author uses the peeping as the main feature to forward the plot, so my scenario where Emiru just starts a normal relationship is very abstract. Still, as mentioned, without their natural attraction to each other the peeping hole would have been closed long ago one way or the other.
To go back to your initial question what would remain if the peeping was taken away. I think the hole, while it helped in actually forming this looming romance is becoming more and more an obstacle for Kidou x Emiru. The single first reaction however would be obviously Kidou starting to miss Emiru, maybe even realizing his feelings once again, which would be a good incentive to start something serious with her.
Assuming his relationship with Madoka is already doomed (which I deem reasonable), in order for the relationship with Emiru to go a step further they'd have to get past the peeping somehow. Not entirely though, I could pciture a last chapter where both are living together in one apartment but retaining a peeping hole within it, such as in the bathroom - as some kind of souvenir from times of them getting to know each other... or just a fetish device :D
MAX_COLA_POWER!
2012-04-16, 21:12
Someone call a waiter. I think the beans have been spilled
BladeEntity
2012-04-16, 23:48
Well that was odd... Emiru truly cares about Kido as least that's what I thought after a little thinking through why Emiru was bring like that initial reaction was she must be jeolous, but in actual fact, to play the the bad guy, helps Madoka forgive Kido more easily, also this well force Kido to rethink about what he thinks of Emiru... This series is most definitely one of the more interesting ones that I follow due to the character dynamics.
Chandalen
2012-04-17, 00:33
...play the the bad guy...
That was my assumption as well upon reading it.
Shadow5YA
2012-04-17, 02:25
Ugh... it had to be Rie to ruin everything.
It was clear from the start that Was going to do it regardless of whether or not they did what she asked, it may have delayed it for a while, but she would still tell Madoka in the end.
Shadow5YA
2012-04-17, 12:28
I know that. It doesn't stop me from hating her guts. I suppose that's the sign of a good villian.
Well, she did say that she does get a kick of destroying relationships. I wouldn't be surprised that if Kotoboki (the ex) will know about the hole.
Randrak42
2012-04-17, 14:12
Interested in starting to read this but I have to ask: Is the MC another gutless and useless guy that goes along with everything? Or does he actually have some balls?
bumbayker
2012-04-17, 15:42
Interested in starting to read this but I have to ask: Is the MC another gutless and useless guy that goes along with everything? Or does he actually have some balls?
I wouldn't really say Kido is gutless. He was instead naive when it came to relationships and dealing with girls especially Emiru. But after the incident with his first girlfriend he began to change.
^it's called character development
about time i change my nick to CaptainObvious
bumbayker
2012-04-17, 19:20
^it's called character development
Indeed it was. In Kido's case it was that traumatic and heartbreaking experience which lead him to change to a better person. He's still far from being the ideal male character but at least he learned from his mistakes and experiences.
Plus there definitely more stuff he still needs to overcome and with his relationship with Emiru getting becoming more complicated, he's still in the process of finding himself and where his feeling regarding his girlfriend, the "peep" life, and other things in general.
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