[Game] Ougon Musou Kyoku ~ Symphony of Golden Dreams

[Xenon_gun]

It can only make it one button if the game allows such a thing. It is possible in this game.

For example, you could bind a keyboard key to emulated button 5, then specify in the game's configuration that button 5 is an ABC press.

When you start the game, it will say 'VJoy Virtual Joystick' next to player 1 and 2 (unless you also have a gamepad connected). Click on this label, and it will allow you to assign VJoy buttons.

To clarify fully, you will get a PAD window. There are 6 selections in the top section, from top to bottom: A, B, C, touch (or D), taunt, start. Middle section is: AB, BC, ABC. Bottom section allows for toggling either the POV control system or the XY control system.
In effect, with VJoy and gamepads, you want to use the POV system, and with joysticks the XY system.

[verona230]

That's really good to know - if only I wouldn't be so horrible with stuff like this) Does VJoy need some different installing or ¨turning on¨? Because the game doesn't see it somehow:)
Oh, and if I put ¨none¨ everywhere besides the button 5 (which you used as an example in your post), then I can use my normal buttons for the other moves - like S for touch or smth?

[legomaple]

I dont know if this is answered yet, but i can't figure out how to perform the Erika Scythe throw. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

I dont know if this is answered yet, but i can't figure out how to perform the Erika Scythe throw. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
http://images.wikia.com/streetfighter/images/f/fe/Guile-sonicboom-artwork.png

[Walterion]

I dont know if this is answered yet, but i can't figure out how to perform the Erika Scythe throw. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

If the previous picture didn't give it away: Hold back 1 second, then foward and one of the hit bottons. Same motion as Guile's Sonic boom attack.

[GospelDS]

So, did I get this right? There's going to be a patch on the 27th that enables Black Battler for Network Mode?

[Eriko 556]

So, did I get this right? There's going to be a patch on the 27th that enables Black Battler for Network Mode?

Probably when 07th launches Will+Bern+Lambda Pack.

[GospelDS]

Probably when 07th launches Will+Bern+Lambda Pack.

Well, it didn't say anything about those three, just about Black Battler and some balancing, and that the release is aimed for the 27th... at least that's what I think it says.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

So, did I get this right? There's going to be a patch on the 27th that enables Black Battler for Network Mode?
Where's the news at?
I'd like to take a look.

[GospelDS]

Where's the news at?
I'd like to take a look.

Official 07th Expansion Twitter. That's what it says:
"黒戦人のネット対戦を可能にするパッチを只今準備中です。1月27日（金）のリリースを目指してバランス調 整中です。ご期待ください！(07th_official)"

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Official 07th Expansion Twitter. That's what it says:
"黒戦人のネット対戦を可能にするパッチを只今準備中です。1月27日（金）のリリースを目指してバランス調 整中です。ご期待ください！(07th_official)"
At the very least, the 27th is the planned date for a balance related patch,
that much I can definitely say.
There's also talk about it allowing a 'Black person' to play online,
so either Ryuukishi's being incredibly racist about it when saying he'll make the netcode better for overseas players,
ooooooor It's Black Battler (that's a joke, by the way).

[GospelDS]

At the very least, the 27th is the planned date for a balance related patch,
that much I can say.

Oh, okay... but the first part does say something about a Black Battler patch for Network being prepared at the moment, right? Even though the release date might be a different one then.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Oh, okay... but the first part does say something about a Black Battler patch for Network being prepared at the moment, right? Even though the release date might be a different one then.
Yup.
We all knew it was coming since he's in the RP menu,
so let's see that SP2 nerf!

[Nanashi_1337]

LOL how can they nerf that attack? Making it do less damage?

No, what's going to be nerfed is Dlanor. It's obvious if you check the combo videos. She even can get a 100% combo.

[GospelDS]

Yup.
We all knew it was coming since he's in the RP menu,
so let's see that SP2 nerf!

Okay, thanks! Now they only have to release a patch that lets you change the music during Network as well and I'm completely satisfied.

[Walterion]

I can take it two ways here, either it's a 236236c rebalance or a final boss rebalance.

We will see when it happens, but I'm eager to know the changelogs for it.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

LOL how can they nerf that attack? Making it do less damage?

No, what's going to be nerfed is Dlanor. It's obvious if you check the combo videos. She even can get a 100% combo.
In Dlanor's case, it's not too hard,
just increase damage scaling on her grab and there you go.
They may also fix things like her ability to chain two SP2's together,
though the damage it deals and the meter you have to sacrifice for it really doesn't make it worth it anyways.
With Black Battler... yeah, honestly I have no idea either,
maybe they'll make him Battler's Akuma and give him poor health?

[Klashikari]

LOL how can they nerf that attack? Making it do less damage?
A very simple method: increase the base damage of it (instead of 480 => 600-700) but forcing Black Battler to stay in place. Basically, it would be roughly the same as the other's SP2, albeit making the mechanic extremely generic.

The main problem with that SP2 is the fact it allows combo extention while dealing damage.

[Walterion]

The main problem with that SP2 is the fact it allows combo extention while dealing damage.

This is true, the SP2 alone deals 480 damage total (60 damage per bullet) or 600 damage (75 per bullet) with EVA's berserk ability enabled. Which is not that great, but the guard break stance that puts you and the possibility that the foe can just go run behind you, toss a few hits on your and then deploy a meta to continue the combo for an insane 1700+ damage is something you have to consider greatly.

[legomaple]

http://images.wikia.com/streetfighter/images/f/fe/Guile-sonicboom-artwork.png

im glad someone posted how to perform, cause this didn't help me at all:/

[Nanashi_1337]

A very simple method: increase the base damage of it (instead of 480 => 600-700) but forcing Black Battler to stay in place. Basically, it would be roughly the same as the other's SP2, albeit making the mechanic extremely generic.

The main problem with that SP2 is the fact it allows combo extention while dealing damage.

If they do that they will make his SP2 completely worthless, because the great thing about that super is that it extends combos. I don't want that nerf, and I wish they don't add it.

IMO, they should make the SP2 do less damage and inflict less stun and guard damage. I don't want him to lose that ability to extend combos. If they want, they should make him slower than normal Battler, for example, so there's more difference between them.

And increase damage scaling for Dlanor's grab? I'm not even sure if it has a damage scaling, seeing as the damage it does is quite the same.

[Tong]

Lol, nerfing Dlanor? You guys do know that she can't deal well with close-combat or long pokes, nor has the best mobility...
That massive damage is the only redeeming quality she has, removing it would make her very weak.

And how to nerf BBattler SP2? Well, just don't... nerf something else like his HP or victory quotes.

[Nanashi_1337]

You clearly haven't played against a good Dlanor player. I assure you she's good even with that damage nerf with her grab. And we're only talking about increasing her damage scaling, aka that her grab does less damage when used in a combo.

And how can you nerf their HP when it's the same for every character? Do they even have different HP or defense, each character?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

And how can you nerf their HP when it's the same for every character? Do they even have different HP or defense, each character?
I do remeber one update to vanilla Ougon adding different HP values to characters,
can't say I've actually noticed it myself.

[Tong]

Yes, each charater has a fixed amount of HP:
4950: Ronove
4500: Battler, Virgilia, Shannon
4350: Siesta, Eva Beatrice
4200: Beatrice, Ange
4050: Kanon, Lucifer

I tested by myself using Lucifer and Ronove as training dummies and performed Dlanor/BBattler 6k combo... Luci died in the middle of it lol
Then, Ronove+Battler. I was able to fully perform it, but he died anyway.

[Azule]

What are the odds of the extra characters being patched? Spring starts in February in a few countries, so i'm wondering if it'll be Feb/March that they're coming.

[Nanashi_1337]

They said Spring, so they can release it just starting Spring, if we're positive, or they could release it some days before Spring ends, if we're pessimistic. I really hope they at least do it early, not a lot later. I so want to play as Lambdadelta.

And now I remember that update about giving them different life values, but personally, I don't notice it that much. But yeah, they could make B.Battler imitate what they did in Street Fighter with Akuma.

[Snow_Storm]

I really need to get back online and play a few rounds. Damn you Kawata Shoujo!
Maybe once I get done working with this music piece, I'll play a few online matches.

[keobas]

Hey guys need help with this error.
http://i40.tinypic.com/20gzltd.jpg

It pops up at start up. Anyone familiar with it?

So I take it no one has experience this huh?

[The Creator]

It says something about sound not being able, i guess you must have some kind of driver issues =X

[verona230]

Keobas, what version of DirectX do you have?

[SilverSyko]

Yo. I've been out of the Umineko loop for about a year now, but I looked back into Golden Fantasia recently and something caught my interest about the new Cross version of the game...

What exactly is Black Battler? I'm assuming he's like Battler's "dark side", but what's the deal with him? Since I've never seen him before I was just very curious on the matter.

Also, what are the differences between him and normal Battler?

[immblueversion]

Yo. I've been out of the Umineko loop for about a year now, but I looked back into Golden Fantasia recently and something caught my interest about the new Cross version of the game...

What exactly is Black Battler? I'm assuming he's like Battler's "dark side", but what's the deal with him? Since I've never seen him before I was just very curious on the matter.

Also, what are the differences between him and normal Battler?

Black Battler is a being who personifies the idea that Battler was the culprit. Because the theory exists, he too is able to exist. In fact, he practically is the theory. He only appears in a short story written by Ryukishi07 called "Forgery No. XXX." Here's a translation, though it's not the best one around:

http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Forgery_no.XXX

Not sure what you mean by "differences." Do you mean in terms of gameplay? If so, then I don't know.

Also, that wiki really needs some cleaning up and updating.

[SilverSyko]

Ohoho.~ Thanks for the link. That was plenty informative. I'm disappointed he never appeared in the main series though. I like him already as an antagonist.~ :)

The portrait of him on his wiki page is cool too with all the darkness coming off him. Very sinister. :D

(I find the shounen-like aspects of this character quite amusing.)



Not sure what you mean by "differences." Do you mean in terms of gameplay? If so, then I don't know.

Yeah I mean difference in his fighting style. Different characters should play differently from one another no? Or else there's no point in having other characters.

[LyricalAura]

Yeah I mean difference in his fighting style. Different characters should play differently from one another no? Or else there's no point in having other characters.

Most of his specials are functionally the same as regular Battler's, but his projectiles work somewhat differently, and his 2SP super is a disgustingly useful combo extender. I'm not sure whether his normals are the same or not. His ability is Massacre, which lets him regenerate health when he connects with projectile attacks.

[immblueversion]

Ohoho.~ Thanks for the link. That was plenty informative. I'm disappointed he never appeared in the main series though. I like him already as an antagonist.~ :)

The portrait of him on his wiki page is cool too with all the darkness coming off him. Very sinister. :D

(I find the shounen-like aspects of this character quite amusing.)




Yeah I mean difference in his fighting style. Different characters should play differently from one another no? Or else there's no point in having other characters.

Well, EP8 does feature a "what-if" scenario in which Battler is the culprit along with his mom and dad. He behaves pretty similar to Black Battler, but looks like ordinary Battler. There's a CG of the scene in the PS3 version; in fact, one of B. Battler's Super attacks, which lets him summon his parents to shoot the opponent like a bat out of hell (and is probably that "disgustingly useful" attack that was brought up), is based on that scene:

http://i41.tinypic.com/raxk03.jpg

[Snow_Storm]

im glad someone posted how to perform, cause this didn't help me at all:/


play cooler fighting games
Charge back for two seconds, then foward and press an attack button to perform her Sickle Throw.

[Nanashi_1337]

Most of his specials are functionally the same as regular Battler's, but his projectiles work somewhat differently, and his 2SP super is a disgustingly useful combo extender. I'm not sure whether his normals are the same or not. His ability is Massacre, which lets him regenerate health when he connects with projectile attacks.

It works for any attack. Not only projectiles.

[immblueversion]

I happen to have the voice rips, and I noticed something very interesting in them.

First of all, there's the characters' battle voice files. There's a chunk of voice files where they address their partners when they switch out with them. They're pretty standard stuff, but there's one thing every character says around that area: "Yes, Battler-sama." Even the characters who would never call him that in the main story.

Then there's the system voices, or the announcer voice files. There's a folder containing voices on the character and stage select screen, and among the names they mention, after naming all the names of the game's playable characters (including Will, Bern, and Lambda), they mention "Ushiromiya Battler" a second time, and it's exactly the same as the first time. In this case, I know they're not referring to Black Battler, because they just call him "Battler."

Lastly, also in the system voice files, there are the voices used to announce the winners of certain matches, like "Battler and Beatrice!" Again, after going through the names of all playable characters, they say Battler's name again, except it's a third time since the first two must refer to Battler and B. Battler.

Now, if we take that not-so-subtle shot at the beginning of Cross's OP into account, do you know what I've concluded? The developers have at least intended to include the Endless Sorcerer Battler in the game! However, there are no sprites of said character to support that claim. Then again, there are no sprites of Will, Bern, and Lambda either, and their names are still mentioned in the files (the voice files of other characters addressing them in gameplay exist). Yet still, there are a handful of sprites for Will, Bern, and Lambda hidden around, though there's no sign of the Endless Sorcerer. Instead there's a sprite of a goat...

In fact, here are the hidden sprites for Will, Bern, Lambda, and that suspicious goat for good measure. And yes, they're real. I would know, I uploaded them.

http://s16.postimage.org/f6hj7ghnp/00000340.pnghttp://s13.postimage.org/ix002p3yf/00000364.pnghttp://s10.postimage.org/rt9eks2yh/00000386.pnghttp://s13.postimage.org/ufqankls7/00000442.png

I also found the names of their abilities in the files, but they clearly don't show what they do: Will's ability is called "Chain Boost," Bern's is "Meta Boost," and Lambda's is "Ultra PAR."

[SilverSyko]

Eh, I dunno how I feel about a third version of Battler being a playable character. I mean we already have a second one who isn't incredibly different from the original one.

But then again Sorcerer Battler can utilize magic and a sword unlike his piece counterpart can, so his play style could be changed up a bit. I s'pose I could think of him like the Ken to piece Battler's Ryu in such a scenario. (And how B. Battler is the "Evil Ryu" of the game.)


Speaking of hidden data on the game, it's a little disappointing to see that Rena hasn't been added to the game yet even after her name was found within the files of the first release. :(

[immblueversion]

But then again Sorcerer Battler can utilize magic and a sword unlike his piece counterpart can, so his play style could be changed up a bit. I s'pose I could think of him like the Ken to piece Battler's Ryu in such a scenario. (And how B. Battler is the "Evil Ryu" of the game.)

That's exactly what I'm hoping for.

Speaking of hidden data on the game, it's a little disappointing to see that Rena hasn't been added to the game yet even after her name was found within the files of the first release. :(

Maybe we'll get lucky with some kind of future console port for Cross, similar to how the original game was ported to the Xbox 360 as Ougon Musou Kyoku X.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

But then again Sorcerer Battler can utilize magic and a sword unlike his piece counterpart can, so his play style could be changed up a bit.
Just a nitpick, but I'm pretty sure the Battler we play as is meta-Battler,
just one that focuses on blue truth like the old days since vanilla Ougon was focused on EP1-4.
the manner he converses with the other characters with and the fact that BATTLER disappears on the meta stage if Battler is played shows this.
My guess is that BATTLER will focus on that awesome golden longsword,
at least as his meta-super.

[immblueversion]

Just a nitpick, but I'm pretty sure the Battler we play as is meta-Battler,
just one that focuses on blue truth like the old days since vanilla Ougon was focused on EP1-4.
the manner he converses with the other characters with and the fact that BATTLER disappears on the meta stage if Battler is played shows this.
My guess is that BATTLER will focus on that awesome golden longsword,
at least as his meta-super.

Then maybe he could be some sort of expansion to Battler, like a retooling of his "Blue Truth"-exclusive fighting style to something a little more, shall we say, up-to-date with how he fights in the main series.

Or he could just be another wasted concept who was scrapped for no discernible reason.

[Nanashi_1337]

Like Rena from Higurashi. Oh come on, who wasn't disappointed that she wouldn't appear? I sure wanted to see her in a fight screaming "Usoda!!!".

[Walterion]

I happen to have the voice rips, and I noticed something very interesting in them.

First of all, there's the characters' battle voice files. There's a chunk of voice files where they address their partners when they switch out with them. They're pretty standard stuff, but there's one thing every character says around that area: "Yes, Battler-sama." Even the characters who would never call him that in the main story.

Then there's the system voices, or the announcer voice files. There's a folder containing voices on the character and stage select screen, and among the names they mention, after naming all the names of the game's playable characters (including Will, Bern, and Lambda), they mention "Ushiromiya Battler" a second time, and it's exactly the same as the first time. In this case, I know they're not referring to Black Battler, because they just call him "Battler."

Lastly, also in the system voice files, there are the voices used to announce the winners of certain matches, like "Battler and Beatrice!" Again, after going through the names of all playable characters, they say Battler's name again, except it's a third time since the first two must refer to Battler and B. Battler.

Now, if we take that not-so-subtle shot at the beginning of Cross's OP into account, do you know what I've concluded? The developers have at least intended to include the Endless Sorcerer Battler in the game! However, there are no sprites of said character to support that claim. Then again, there are no sprites of Will, Bern, and Lambda either, and their names are still mentioned in the files (the voice files of other characters addressing them in gameplay exist). Yet still, there are a handful of sprites for Will, Bern, and Lambda hidden around, though there's no sign of the Endless Sorcerer. Instead there's a sprite of a goat...

In fact, here are the hidden sprites for Will, Bern, Lambda, and that suspicious goat for good measure. And yes, they're real. I would know, I uploaded them.

http://s16.postimage.org/f6hj7ghnp/00000340.pnghttp://s13.postimage.org/ix002p3yf/00000364.pnghttp://s10.postimage.org/rt9eks2yh/00000386.pnghttp://s13.postimage.org/ufqankls7/00000442.png

I also found the names of their abilities in the files, but they clearly don't show what they do: Will's ability is called "Chain Boost," Bern's is "Meta Boost," and Lambda's is "Ultra PAR."


Oh dear god, here we go with the speculations and the datamining. We are in for a trip.

At least we should focus on the last part though, we know the names of the abilities... but what would they do is something that I find quite interesting. I would think ''Meta boost'' would be increasing the duration of Meta world, and ''Chain boost'' would be decreasing the damage reduction in long combos. Now you lost me with Ultra PAR, that's something that we will need a video to guess.
Also, the names were in an ability chart or they were in text?


Reagarding the ''Yes,Battler-Sama'' is when they tag in with B.Battler, they call him that sometimes.

[Azule]

They do call Battler "Battler-sama" when he's B.Battler and they tag team, but I didn't really need much convincing that they'd add Sorcerer Battler. He features strongly in the OP, Blue Truth Battler is very much his Episodes 1-5 version, and the lack of a proper Battler/Beato story based around Chiru's events seems to hint towards that.

But uh, what's with that goat? >_>

[o0Mystique0o]

Just a wild guess but isnt that the goat from lia's draw pose ?

[maximilianjenus]

I hope they add the goat if just so, so dlanor is not the "fatest" character in the game. BATTLER would be quite different just by being a sword user. about will's skill I hope it's similar to lucifer's attack touch but instead of tagging it allows you to 6,6 after C one extra time.

[Nanashi_1337]

Bern's Meta Boost ability could be about boosting the time Metafield last, or maybe boosting overall stats while in Metafield only. First seems reasonable. If it's the first though, imagine yourself spamming Battler's big laser and having Stun Boost activated too, and I have to say, it scares me a little.

Will's Chain Boost could be about either reducing damage scaling or allowing easy combos that otherwise wouldn't be possible without the ability. Again, first seems reasonable, but oh god if we combine this with Dlanor.

Lambadelta's Ultra PAR ability, no clue. Maybe it makes her grabs impossible to escape? Or boosting damage of Metasupers only? Sorry, no clue at all.

[Klashikari]

I hope they add the goat if just so, so dlanor is not the "fatest" character in the game. BATTLER would be quite different just by being a sword user. about will's skill I hope it's similar to lucifer's attack touch but instead of tagging it allows you to 6,6 after C one extra time.
No anything but that. The game suffers already way too much on the combo dominant playstyle. Allowing combo extention based on meta abilities is just way too dangerous and imbalanced.
Considering this type with Lucifer: normal touch, Lucifer combo then dash cancel with the ability, combo, regular dash cancel, meta cancel, combo, attack touch, battler combo, dash cancel, combo, meta super. The opponent is definitely stun mid way anyway.

Any combo extension shouldn't be allowed with ability aside with Lucifer, considering how stupid it can be.

[Walterion]

First seems reasonable. If it's the first though, imagine yourself spamming Battler's big laser and having Stun Boost activated too, and I have to say, it scares me a little.

HAW.

Just think about what you said here: If it the first (Bern's ability extending Meta world), spamming battler's big laser and having Stun boost (Ange's ability).
This game only supports 2 characters, maybe what you meant was: ''Having Bern's first choice ability with Battler spamming his beam would be equal to Battler spamming his beam with Ange's stun boost'' (?)


And also, notice that Lambda's ability has PAR on caps, maybe its an shortening of some word... or several. Maybe that would give us a better hint about it.

[Nanashi_1337]

Oh that's true. I forgot about it.

Then imagine Boss B.Battler with that ability :(

[Azule]

And also, notice that Lambda's ability has PAR on caps, maybe its an shortening of some word... or several. Maybe that would give us a better hint about it.

Ultra Parry? Ultra Paralyse?

[Walterion]

Oh that's true. I forgot about it.

Then imagine Boss B.Battler with that ability :(

CASE AND POINT why I say ''Try to beat this guy before Spring patch''. These 3 abilities on him and you are even more boned.

Ultra Parry? Ultra Paralyse?

Sounds close enough, Ultra Parry sounds plausible.

[Tong]

Maybe Par from latin as in "equal, quality".

[LyricalAura]

Why not a bad romanization of "Ultra Paper", since she shortens "paper" to "paa" in the story?

[Nanashi_1337]

You may be right here. The problem is that I have no idea what ability she could use, if that's true. Maybe that it negates all Counter Hits, aka no attack will work as counter hit while this ability is activated?

[Walterion]

Why not a bad romanization of "Ultra Paper", since she shortens "paper" to "paa" in the story?

Good point, and she always claims that she is Super Paper. So that makes sense.

[DoktorFunk]

Why not a bad romanization of "Ultra Paper", since she shortens "paper" to "paa" in the story?

That assumption doesn't sound too ramndom, prencess. iirc, Rock-Paper-Scissors (Jankenpon), Rock='Guu', Paper='Paa', Scissors='Choki.' I could see some kind of twisty, curly super paper attack being included with plenty of sweet attacks.

I don't know if that even supports your argument. I just wanted to flex the stuff I learned watching Kaiji and make a bunch of bad puns.

[Snow_Storm]

Speaking of hidden data on the game, it's a little disappointing to see that Rena hasn't been added to the game yet even after her name was found within the files of the first release. :(

Pretty sure it was confrimed that Ryukishi07 did that just to mess with people heads. He knows that people love to rip files from his games, so he did that just for kicks.

Granted, if enough people beg, we might get Rena...one day.

[legomaple]

Granted, if enough people beg, we might get Rena...one day.

Let the begging begin!

[reiimuuchan]

Urgh ._.
I know this might sound really petty, but I'd honestly be annoyed if they added Rena, or any other Higurashi characters, into Ougon.
Ougon is an /Umineko/ fighting game.
I don't really want Higurashi characters taking up space when there are still more Umineko characters that could be added.

[maximilianjenus]

Like ?

I can only think of gaap, goat, BATTLER and maybe MARIA. more stakes or more bunnies would be worse than having a higurashi character.

[Luxuria]

Please don't forget Goldsmith Kinzo. As odd as it may seem, I'm still hoping for this ojiji.

[Walterion]

I think the Grand Sorceror GOHDA should be included in the game.

[reiimuuchan]

I don't even care if they don't add anymore Umineko characters to Ougon at this point, even though there are a few I would love to see the roster is pretty full.

But I just hate the idea of Higurashi characters being in there for no reason at all.
They wouldn't really be able to contribute much to the arcade mode, given they don't interact with any Umineko characters (beyond tenuous Bern=Rika Lambda=Takano links that have never been clarified anyway), and I don't think they'd fit in.

Higurashi is a different series, why does everybody want to lump it together with Umineko? .__. It saddens me.

[DaBackpack]

But Rena Ryuuguu is an awesome character and crossovers like that happen all the time.

That said, I am content with this roster as it is as far as Umineko characters are concerned (except for Kinzo! I WANT KINZO SO BAD).

I think it'd be cool, albeit maybe that time/effort/space would be better alotted elsewhere.

[SilverSyko]

But I just hate the idea of Higurashi characters being in there for no reason at all.

Nonsense. The reason is fan-service of course. Why would you need a better reason?

They wouldn't really be able to contribute much to the arcade mode, given they don't interact with any Umineko characters (beyond tenuous Bern=Rika Lambda=Takano links that have never been clarified anyway), and I don't think they'd fit in.

This is a spin-off. It doesn't matter whether not a character "fits in" as it has nothing to do with the original series anyway. They could create scenarios with Higurashi characters from scratch.

Higurashi is a different series, why does everybody want to lump it together with Umineko? .__. It saddens me.

This is wrong. Higurashi's alternate title is "When They Cry 1 & 2". Umineko's alternate title is "When They Cry 3 & 4". They're the same series and they're all created by Ryukishi07. There should be no more reasoning needed than that for him to include Higurashi characters in this game.

[reiimuuchan]

They might have been written by the same author and in the same series, but the two stories really don't have very much in common. Higurashi was a mystery/horror/friendship hybrid thing, whereas Umineko is more of a mystery/fantasy/romance. The themes handled are different, the characters are different, the storytelling is /completely/ different (given all the layers of meta in Umineko), Umineko was inspired by Western mystery novels and Higurashi wasn't... ...
In the end I don't care that they're by the same author, the two series are way too dissimilar in almost every aspect to keep comparing them. And that is reasoning enough to keep Higurashi characters out of an Umineko fighting game.
Apart from fanservice, obviously XD

Like I said, I know it sounds really petty, and I know a lot of people would disagree with me (as you are doing), but personally, I wouldn't like it if they added in Higurashi characters. It would feel so pointless. That's just my opinion though.

In the end, it's probably useless talking about it, because I kind of doubt they'll add them in anyway XD

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Rena is pretty much 07th Expansion's mascot,
and we all know how mascot characters tend to turn out in fighters...

[Azule]

Well; depending on how popular Cross is will obviously depend on how much further they take the game. They could keep going until they'd added Rena Ryugu in, alongside all the other Umineko characters, such as Gaap, Featherine, Kinzo, MARIA, even the dead Siesta. They could keep making the roster bigger and bigger until all 07th Expansion characters featured in it, to be honest. The only thing stopping them from making sequels to Cross would be money and interest.

I mean, either way, you could take it as a granted that a sequel to Cross will come out, considering Ryukshi's shown interest in revamping the game engine before now; Cross only came first because almost everyone wanted more characters.

[Nanashi_1337]

Why is people still asking for more Umineko characters? Do you think it's that easy to just put every single character that appeared in the story inside the fighting game? The only ones that could be possibly added are Gapp and maybe sorcerer BATTLER (though if they do the second one, please, make them different). Apart from that, what could you possibly add to the other characters? There's not enough material to create a fighting game character from them. And even if there was, then we have the problem of giving them storylines with other characters. Some are just incompatible with everyone else. Stop suggesting the rest of the Stakes or Siesta because I don't want to see the same thing as Melty Blood here.

IMO, about Higurashi & Umineko, I'm really interested in seeing some of the character's reactions when putting Umineko & Higurashi together, like mixing Battler and Keiichi, Bern and Rika, or Ange (or rather Sakutarou) with Rena. That would be quite funny.

[maximilianjenus]

The goat can fight, I don't really have any hopes for MARIA, tho. while gohda has been hinted at being a steven seagal - like character and natsuhi on being a naginata user (yay! another ranged weapon user) i also don't see them being in a new game/patch.

Hopefully cross is the last umineko game and then we get a "when they cry" fighting game.

[legomaple]

They might have been written by the same author and in the same series, but the two stories really don't have very much in common. Higurashi was a mystery/horror/friendship hybrid thing, whereas Umineko is more of a mystery/fantasy/romance. The themes handled are different, the characters are different, the storytelling is /completely/ different (given all the layers of meta in Umineko), Umineko was inspired by Western mystery novels and Higurashi wasn't... ...
In the end I don't care that they're by the same author, the two series are way too dissimilar in almost every aspect to keep comparing them. And that is reasoning enough to keep Higurashi characters out of an Umineko fighting game.
Apart from fanservice, obviously XD

Like I said, I know it sounds really petty, and I know a lot of people would disagree with me (as you are doing), but personally, I wouldn't like it if they added in Higurashi characters. It would feel so pointless. That's just my opinion though.

In the end, it's probably useless talking about it, because I kind of doubt they'll add them in anyway XD

Aren't you forgetting the main aspect of both series? Repeating the same days over and over again. In higurashi it was not explained untill the second season and umineko bassically started it, but they still both used it. Umineko is said to be a game of witches, and it was hinted that Higurashi was the same.

[cronnoponno]

Why is people still asking for more Umineko characters? Do you think it's that easy to just put every single character that appeared in the story inside the fighting game? The only ones that could be possibly added are Gapp and maybe sorcerer BATTLER (though if they do the second one, please, make them different). Apart from that, what could you possibly add to the other characters? There's not enough material to create a fighting game character from them. And even if there was, then we have the problem of giving them storylines with other characters. Some are just incompatible with everyone else. Stop suggesting the rest of the Stakes or Siesta because I don't want to see the same thing as Melty Blood here.

IMO, about Higurashi & Umineko, I'm really interested in seeing some of the character's reactions when putting Umineko & Higurashi together, like mixing Battler and Keiichi, Bern and Rika, or Ange (or rather Sakutarou) with Rena. That would be quite funny.

Flauros.



And I don't believe Umineko is starting the same days over and over again.

[Joachim13]

I know I've already asked once, but no one actually answered me: What program is best suited to excracting files in OMK?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

And we finally got another batch,
and it's one very much worth your time, I'd say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwviBoHYGM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCWERh-AQr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofid3T-fscs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAyAkNJ2BvA
The 1st match isn't terribly exciting, but it quickly escalates as the matches go on.

[DaBackpack]

George's metasuper is scary.

The juggling in the fourth one was priceless though.

[Tong]

Requesting an urine sample on that George.

[Snow_Storm]

Hey, are there anyone in the Anime Suki Hamachi Ougon chat that still play this game? Just curious.

[cronnoponno]

I do, however everyone I played with thus far lagged considerably with me, it causes me to go spam-crazy and get angry when 90% of my combos mess up due to lag, so I haven't actually been signing on lately.I'm never gonna learn to play like those videos at this rate T.T

West.
:l

[DaBackpack]

Hey, are there anyone in the Anime Suki Hamachi Ougon chat that still play this game? Just curious.

What is the information for this Hamachi group? I'm interested :)

[Solkiskey]

I'm only on the ASOugon group, and haven't been able to play anyone yet. =/

[Snow_Storm]

What is the information for this Hamachi group? I'm interested :)

I know the username is ASOugon but I forgot the password. :(

Anyway, for those who say "NO HIGURASHI CHARACTERS SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS GAME OR SHOULDN'T INTERACT WITH UMINEKO!"

http://www.mangareader.net/960-47453-15/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-episode-x/chapter-4.html

http://www.mangareader.net/960-47453-17/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-episode-x/chapter-4.html

While it's not canon, it's an offical manga written by Ryukishi.

I don't mind Higurashi characters fighting Umineko folks in a fighitng game as long as Umineko characters stay in OMK and an UminekoxHigurshi fighting game is original and built from the ground up.

[reiimuuchan]

I don't mind Higurashi characters fighting Umineko folks in a fighitng game as long as Umineko characters stay in OMK and an UminekoxHigurshi fighting game is original and built from the ground up.

That's what I think too. I'm aware of the umi/higu crossover manga and stuff, and that doesn't bother me cause from the outset it was meant to be a crossover. I think ougon was made specifically for umineko characters, though, so adding characters from a different series at the last minute would feel really weird, and it wouldn't fit with the purely umineko storylines established in the game...

I wouldn't mind if they made an Umi/Higu fighting game from scratch that was always intended to be a cross-over.

[Walterion]

I wouldn't mind if they made an Umi/Higu fighting game from scratch that was always intended to be a cross-over.

Would be interesting, dunno what R07 will do about it.

[DaBackpack]

That'd be nice, but it'd be a lot of effort to make a brand new game just so he could crossover characters from his work. From his perspective, it would just be so much more convenient to add someone like Rena to Ogon.

Not really supporting that, it's just how it is.

[momobunny]

I wouldn't mind if they made new magical characters based off of the Higurashi characters and added them into this game as a nod to Higurashi fans without the cast straying from the Umineko theme. Kind of like how Bernkastel and Lambdadelta are to Rika and Miyoko. I mean it's probably not the best idea, but I would love to see witch/demon versions of Rena and the others and see them fight with magic... owo;

[Snow_Storm]

Another alternate is that they could put Higurashi characters in OMKC but you can not use them in Arcade/Story mode, no matter what.

Question: What is teh name of the Record Menu theme (the one where Clair is telling you how you performed in the game)? It's very beautiful.

[cronnoponno]

I personally wouldn't mind Higurashi characters in OMK, new characters are new characters, as long as they're not adding friggen, I don't know Darth Vader.


That being said, I am not looking forward to how they supposedly fight, a lot of Higurashi's cast seems like they'd fight like Rosa, in which case I'd rather they just add a few more of the adults, Gaap, Sorttler, and that new Flauros person.

[Solkiskey]

Another alternate is that they could put Higurashi characters in OMKC but you can not use them in Arcade/Story mode, no matter what.

Question: What is teh name of the Record Menu theme (the one where Clair is telling you how you performed in the game)? It's very beautiful.

That would be 白い影.

Anyone wants to netplay with a scrub? :heh:

[reiimuuchan]

That being said, I am not looking forward to how they supposedly fight, a lot of Higurashi's cast seems like they'd fight like Rosa, in which case I'd rather they just add a few more of the adults, Gaap, Sorttler, and that new Flauros person.

Well, Rena has a hatchet... and in her meta super, she would try and take you home! XD
Shion can taze people to death...
And Hanyuu can sit around crying and generally be quite useless XP

I'd be kinda interested in Flauros, just cause I'd want to hear what voice actress she'd have...
As for the adults, Kyrie would be cool, given she could summon Leviathan for support and melt people with the burning powers of her envy... but she's already B. Battler's support and would probably be too much like Rosa, so I don't know.

[Oblivion]

Does anyone know when the remaining three characters will be released?

[immblueversion]

Does anyone know when the remaining three characters will be released?

In the spring. And that is all we need to know.

[cronnoponno]

Well, Rena has a hatchet... and in her meta super, she would try and take you home! XD
Shion can taze people to death...
And Hanyuu can sit around crying and generally be quite useless XP

I'd be kinda interested in Flauros, just cause I'd want to hear what voice actress she'd have...
As for the adults, Kyrie would be cool, given she could summon Leviathan for support and melt people with the burning powers of her envy... but she's already B. Battler's support and would probably be too much like Rosa, so I don't know.

Eh, I'd say that ''Evil culprit Kyrie'' is the support, Kyrie was in a few fights without being evil.


No matter what anyone says, Krauss is a boxer, and Jessica most likely learned how to fight from him, or studied it ''because he did it'',and while he has no real Fantasy powers, I'd say he'd make a decent ''Not magical but badass like Rosa so it's justified he'd be a character'' character.

Gohda would be funny, and awesome, I personally would love to see Godha as a character. If Shannon can be a character and attack by shoving carts into people....then damn it Gohda can be a character too.

Goat-Kun could be a character, just say Virgillia's supports aren't Goat-Kun.

Kinzo would feel kinda yes and kinda no to me, I mean would he fight like sorcerer Battler? Would he fight by using summons so he'd be the biggest support-user? (See Virgillia for a similarity).

Sorcerer Battler seems like he'd be the ''One character in the game that's overpowered as hell and no one can beat him and isn't allowed in serious play'', unless they add Featherine, I hope they don't make Sorcerer Battler this if they add him.

I'd say Claire isn't really worth putting in the game, don't get me wrong, she'd be cool, but she seems more of a broken person with no real meaning towards fighting.



Plus, I'd say that a few unique and original characters could be imagined, Umineko has always referenced ''important guests'' and ''The Senate'', to the point to where Lambda was afraid to go against them.

Imagine all the witches they could make with all the types of mysterious concepts that we can't understand in the world, wouldn't you rather see those than a few Higurashi cameo's?



Though, ultimately, new characters=new characters so if they want to add Higurashi characters, by all means.

Also, on the ''Siestas and Stakes'' issue, I'd say they revamp the Palette Swapping system or something to where you can simply play as them, with the same exact moveset as their prime character(Using Beelzebub will have her sprites, Lucifers moveset, Beelzebubs voice), and just upon using a character like that it'll ask you which one you want to be.

[legomaple]

Also, on the ''Siestas and Stakes'' issue, I'd say they revamp the Palette Swapping system or something to where you can simply play as them, with the same exact moveset as their prime character(Using Beelzebub will have her sprites, Lucifers moveset, Beelzebubs voice), and just upon using a character like that it'll ask you which one you want to be.

Something like Shiek/Zelda in SSB

[GospelDS]

That being said, I am not looking forward to how they supposedly fight, a lot of Higurashi's cast seems like they'd fight like Rosa, in which case I'd rather they just add a few more of the adults, Gaap, Sorttler, and that new Flauros person.

Never heard of Higurashi Daybreak before? They even managed to add Tomitake as a playable character...

Plus, I'd say that a few unique and original characters could be imagined, Umineko has always referenced ''important guests'' and ''The Senate'', to the point to where Lambda was afraid to go against them.

Imagine all the witches they could make with all the types of mysterious concepts that we can't understand in the world, wouldn't you rather see those than a few Higurashi cameo's?

Well... I for one don't really care about characters I don't know anything about, so creating completely new ones just for the game would be somewhat... meh... Putting Higurashi characters in it would be a far better choice than that. At least in my opinion.
And if they get similiar attacks and moves like in the aforementioned daybreak, that would be quite funny.

[cronnoponno]

Something like Shiek/Zelda in SSB



Close but, lets say for example you pick 410 on the character select screen.

After this a mini menu pops up, with the rest of the Siestas, and lets you choose which one you want. Has the same moveset as 410, just has their sprites and voice.


It saves the character select screen from being cluttered, allows you to pick which one you want without having a million characters with 1 or 2 differences(someone who likes lucifer wouldn't have to practice with Beelzebub because they'd know how to use Lucifer) and I mean really, lets you play as the other Stakes and Siestas.



@Gospel

I see your point, but I still think it'd be more interesting for Umineko to expand on it's universe with more witches than give a little fan service to Higurashi, again not that I'd actually complain if they did put Higurashi characters in.

[adiosToreadon]

Hey guys, I've been wondering what the characters say during the meta world phases. I managed to decipher a little bit of it, but I'm still unsure if it really is what they're saying. Uh, I /am/ posting it in the right place, right? Well, here's my list that I compiled...


Battler:

Declare Metaworld: Turn the chessboard over! (?)
Meta Reverse: Repeat it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: My gameboard is perfect!!

Meta Special: Arise, shoulder war towers!
Destroying Towers: Burst, useless towers!
Fire from Behind: ?
Barrage: Blast away!!


Ange:

Declare Metaworld: Witches, magic, now ??
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: Well, see you later. <See you again>


Lucifer:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Declare Metaworld vs Erika:

Meta Special: Let's go, everyone!
*Connects* The seven sisters of Purgatory, here!
?


Rosa:

Declare Metaworld: I love my Maria!! (?)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Stop saying 'uu-uu'!!
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: Your father is in the Golden Land! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Magical Creatures: What is magic? Ridiculous! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Eva Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld vs Beatrice: I kill Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Maria!
Maria: It's loaded, mama! (?)
?
?


Virgilia:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Checkmate!


Kanon:

Declare Metaworld: I don't want to be furniture anymore!
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Meta Special if miss: Ridiculous!


Shannon:

Declare Metaworld: I'm not furniture anymore!!
Meta Reverse: Please stop it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: I've kept my end of the promise!! (?) Beatrice!!
Meta SPecial vs Beatrice: I've kept my end of the promise, ???


Eva-Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse: No waaaaay!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Chiester 410:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Ronove:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: This is not your game. (?)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Jessica:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: Everyone, let's go!!!


George:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Erika:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Dlanor:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

Black Battler:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

[Walterion]

Hey guys, I've been wondering what the characters say during the meta world phases. I managed to decipher a little bit of it, but I'm still unsure if it really is what they're saying. Uh, I /am/ posting it in the right place, right? Well, here's my list that I compiled...


Battler:

Declare Metaworld: Turn the chessboard over! (?)
Meta Reverse: Repeat it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: My gameboard is perfect!!

Meta Special: Arise, shoulder war towers!
Destroying Towers: Burst, useless towers!
Fire from Behind: ?
Barrage: Blast away!!


Ange:

Declare Metaworld: Witches, magic, now ??
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: Well, see you later. <See you again>


Lucifer:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Declare Metaworld vs Erika:

Meta Special: Let's go, everyone!
*Connects* The seven sisters of Purgatory, here!
?


Rosa:

Declare Metaworld: I love my Maria!! (?)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Stop saying 'uu-uu'!!
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: Your father is in the Golden Land! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Magical Creatures: What is magic? Ridiculous! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Eva Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld vs Beatrice: I kill Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Maria!
Maria: It's loaded, mama! (?)
?
?


Virgilia:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Checkmate!


Kanon:

Declare Metaworld: I don't want to be furniture anymore!
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Meta Special if miss: Ridiculous!


Shannon:

Declare Metaworld: I'm not furniture anymore!!
Meta Reverse: Please stop it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: I've kept my end of the promise!! (?) Beatrice!!
Meta SPecial vs Beatrice: I've kept my end of the promise, ???


Eva-Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse: No waaaaay!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Chiester 410:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Ronove:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: This is not your game. (?)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Jessica:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: Everyone, let's go!!!


George:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Erika:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Dlanor:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

Black Battler:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

I will link this video here so that this goes further, cause I love to know sometimes what they say.

pjIGqe9eJoc

[immblueversion]

If only people could translate all the battle voices and comments.

Evidently there are people transcribing what is said in Japanese and under what circumstances they're said here (a Japanese site):

http://www22.atwiki.jp/ogonmusou/

I guess it'd also help to listen to the voice rips if one has them.

[adiosToreadon]

I will link this video here so that this goes further, cause I love to know sometimes what they say.

pjIGqe9eJoc

thanks, i figured out some more of the quotes. mostly ange's. My problem is that I recognize some of the phrases, but I'm not 100% sure as to the exact meaning, so I'm afraid to put it up. Like Jessica's first reversal quote. I know it's either "Shut up" or "you're a pest"

Battler:

Declare Metaworld: Turn the chessboard over! (?)
Meta Reverse: Repeat it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: My gameboard is perfect!!

Meta Special: Arise, shoulder war towers!
Destroying Towers: Burst, useless towers!
Fire from Behind: ?
Barrage: Blast away!!


Ange:

Declare Metaworld: Witches, magic, now ??
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection: It's useless. It's all useless.
Forced Meta Expansion: I am Ange-Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Well, see you later. <See you again>


Lucifer:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Declare Metaworld vs Erika:

Meta Special: Let's go, everyone!
*Connects* The seven sisters of Purgatory, here!
?


Rosa:

Declare Metaworld: I love my Maria!! (?)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Stop saying 'uu-uu'!!
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: Your father is in the Golden Land! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Magical Creatures: What is magic? Ridiculous! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Eva Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld vs Beatrice: I kill Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Maria!
Maria: It's loaded, mama! (?)
?
?


Virgilia:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Checkmate!


Kanon:

Declare Metaworld: I don't want to be furniture anymore!
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection: Ridiculous!
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Meta Special if miss: Ridiculous!


Shannon:

Declare Metaworld: I'm not furniture anymore!!
Meta Reverse: Please stop it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: I've kept my end of the promise!! (?) Beatrice!!
Meta SPecial vs Beatrice: I've kept my end of the promise, ???


Eva-Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse: No waaaaay!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Chiester 410:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Ronove:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: This is not your game. (?)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Jessica:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: Everyone, let's go!!!


George:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Erika:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Dlanor:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

Black Battler:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

[orangejuicetang]

I think Battler's Forced Meta Expansion is something like 'This is the truth!'

Erika's Declare Metaworld is something like 'something something you are the culprit!' from what I can tell

[U Metal]

Kinzo would feel kinda yes and kinda no to me, I mean would he fight like sorcerer Battler? Would he fight by using summons so he'd be the biggest support-user? (See Virgillia for a similarity).

Sorcerer Battler seems like he'd be the ''One character in the game that's overpowered as hell and no one can beat him and isn't allowed in serious play'', unless they add Featherine, I hope they don't make Sorcerer Battler this if they add him.

Personally, I think BATTLER should be a normal character... and Kinzo to be an amped up boss superversion that puts Boss Black Battler to horrendous shame.

Just because it would be awesome.

[k_polaris]

Erika's Declare Metaworld is "Here is my indictment. You are the culprit!" (kokuhatsu shimasu. anata ga hannin desu.) I guess you can switch out indictment with accusation, depending on the connotation. Her Meta Reverse is "Isn't it interesting?" (omoshiroi ja nai desu ka?) She says "I'm coming!" (ikimasu yo!) at her Meta Special (and then does her creepy laugh).

Dlanor's Declare Metaworld is "If there is any reasoning, let me cast doubt on it (?)" (suiri ga aru naraba utagaimashou) This should be an actual line from the visual novel (EP8) if I'm not mistaken. At her Meta Special she goes "This is the end!" (kore de owari desu!) and then does the whole die the death thing which is easy enough.

Provided the Japanese because I may be mistaken, though it's only in romaji :x

[NTF_Madara]

Edits to Battler, Beatrice, Lucifer, Chiester, Virgilia, Jessica, and Erika. I could probably do more but the person Activated the metas way to fast and I couldn't hear them over their own talking and the glass breaking. Tell me if there's a specific one you want and I'll see if I can go back and help =p.

Battler:

Declare Metaworld: Turn the chessboard over! (?)
Meta Reverse: Repeat it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: This is the truth!

Meta Special: Everything is... (I miss out on this word. Oogatsu? Ougatsu? not sure)This is the Blue Truth


Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld: Now let us open the door to the Golden Land! (got all except the last word she says)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: My gameboard is perfect!!

Meta Special: Arise, shoulder war towers!
Destroying Towers: Burst, useless towers!
Fire from Behind: ?
Barrage: Blast away!!


Ange:

Declare Metaworld: Witches, magic, now ??
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection: It's useless. It's all useless.
Forced Meta Expansion: I am Ange-Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Well, see you later. <See you again>


Lucifer:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse: Just die you eyesore (Not too sure about the last word besides it being an insult. I hear Kira from Arcana Heart say it all the time and although I know eyesore is Mezawari, I feel it fits Lucifer's personality rather well.
Meta Re-expansion: You're gonna regret this...
Meta Re-objection: You really DO wanna die don't you?
Forced Meta Expansion: (Can't EVEN hear over the glass but the very end makes me think it's) "After this is over I'll think about forgiving you"

Declare Metaworld vs Erika:

Meta Special: Let's go, everyone!
*Connects* The seven sisters of Purgatory, here!
?


Rosa:

Declare Metaworld: I love my Maria!! (?)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Stop saying 'uu-uu'!!
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: Your father is in the Golden Land! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Magical Creatures: What is magic? Ridiculous! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Eva Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld vs Beatrice: I kill Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Maria!
Maria: It's loaded, mama! (?)
?
?


Virgilia:

Declare Metaworld: The time for elegance has ended
Meta Reverse: I won't let you!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection: Is that all you've got? Well then...
Forced Meta Expansion: Foolish! Once more, check!

Meta Special: It was fun... Checkmate!


Kanon:

Declare Metaworld: I don't want to be furniture anymore!
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection: Ridiculous!
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: ?
Meta Special if miss: Ridiculous!


Shannon:

Declare Metaworld: I'm not furniture anymore!!
Meta Reverse: Please stop it!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: I've kept my end of the promise!! (?) Beatrice!!
Meta SPecial vs Beatrice: I've kept my end of the promise, ???


Eva-Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse: No waaaaay!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Chiester 410:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Assisting 410!
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Ronove:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: This is not your game. (?)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Jessica:

Declare Metaworld: I'll show you what happens when I get serious!
Meta Reverse: Shutup!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: Everyone, let's go!!!


George:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Erika:

Declare Metaworld: Here I'll expose you! You're the culprit!
Meta Reverse: Isn't this interesting?
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Dlanor:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

Black Battler:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:

[LyricalAura]

Dlanor's Declare Metaworld is "If there is any reasoning, let me cast doubt on it (?)" (suiri ga aru naraba utagaimashou)"

Close, it's "If you have any reasoning, then allow me to hear it." (Suiri ga aru nara ukagaimashou.)

[cronnoponno]

Um guys?

I think I may have heard wrong but..


When using Dlanor and switching to Virgillia, Dlanor says

''Mrs. Virgillia''

Can someone else confirm that?

Kumasawa is married?

[TwilightsCall]

Allow me to add my input. I spent a small amount of time trying to figure this out as well, though I focused on getting the Japanese not the English:

(Oh, and forgive my hack and slash romanizations)

Oh and I should also note I just left in what you had written previously if I had no input, if you wonder why so many of the things you wrote are still there xD


Battler:

Declare Metaworld: Turn the chessboard over! (?) (Chessu-ban wo Kurikaesu!)
Meta Reverse: Repeat it!
Meta Re-expansion: Reconstruct the Situation! (Joukyou Saikouji!)
Meta Re-objection: I wont run away! (Ore wa mige ne!)
Forced Meta Expansion: This is the truth! (Kore wa shinsou da!)

Meta Special: I'll pierce through everything, with my blue truth! (Subete wo Ugatsu...Ore no Aoki Shinjitsu De!)


Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld: Now let us open the door to the Golden Land! (Ima koso, ougon no tobira wo hirakoso!)
Meta Reverse: ***Something about disciplining a fool? I dunno, this one was a pretty big guess on my part(Baka ni kiritsuteru)
Meta Re-expansion: not even a clue
Meta Re-objection: I'll stand in your way! Or something like that(Jama datte wa saseru!)
Forced Meta Expansion: My gameboard is perfect!! (Wareware no game-ban wa kanpeki da!)

Meta Special: Arise, shoulder war towers! (Hideyo, souken no sentou!)
Destroying Towers: Burst, useless towers!
Fire from Behind: ?
Barrage: Blast away!! (Bu...ppanase!!!!!!!!!!!)


Ange:

Declare Metaworld: Magic, witches...now is the time for a miracle!(Mahou majou...ima koso kiseki wo!) I suspect 'mahou majou' has more significance then I'm giving it
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: This is truly a beautiful miracle(Kore wa totemo suteki na kiseki)
Meta Re-objection: It's useless. It's all useless. (Dame da. Zenzen dame da wa) Mimicking Battler obviously.
Forced Meta Expansion: I am Ange-Beatrice!!! (Watashi wa Ange-Beatrice!)

Meta Special: Well, see you later. <See you again>


Lucifer:

Declare Metaworld: Not to sure, but I think its something like 'From now on, you're going to suffer!'(Koreijou kurou-suru ki ka!)
Meta Reverse: Kind of like, 'don't get all full of yourself!'(Choushi ni noru na!)
Meta Re-expansion: You're gonna regret this... (Koukai suru koto ni naru wa yo)
Meta Re-objection: You really DO wanna die don't you? (Ki ni irenai wa ne) is what I'm hearing, I left in what you put for English cause I'm not sure how right I am
Forced Meta Expansion: You think that much pride is forgiveable? Pretty guessy on this one too(Sonna goumon wa yurushite omou?!)

Declare Metaworld vs Erika: Something about 'I'll tear apart your mystery' or something, I don't know the X and Cross ones that well :(

Meta Special: Go, everyone! (Iku wa yo antatachi!)
*Connects* The seven sisters of Purgatory, here! (Rengoku no nanashimai, koko ni)
As predicted, a direct hit! More literally 'as predicted, I didn't miss' but I like it better this way :x (Yokoku douri hazusanai!)


Rosa:

Declare Metaworld: I love my Maria!! (?)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Stop saying 'uu-uu'!!
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: Your father is in the Golden Land! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Magical Creatures: What is magic? Ridiculous! (?)

Declare Metaworld vs Eva Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld vs Beatrice: I kill Beatrice!!!

Meta Special: Maria!
Maria: It's loaded, mama! (?)
?
?


Virgilia:

Declare Metaworld: The time for elegance has ended (Oyuugi no jikan wa oshimai desu yo!)
Meta Reverse: I won't let you! (Sasemasen yo! Ohohohoho!)
Meta Re-expansion: My turn isn't over yet! (Watashi no deban wa owarimasen yo!)
Meta Re-objection: Is that all you've got? Well then...
Forced Meta Expansion: Foolish! Once more, check! (Amai! Mou ichido chekku!) I couldn't figure out that last word for a good long time, that helps :D

Meta Special: It was fun... Checkmate! (Tanoshikatta desu wa...Checkmate!)


Kanon:

Declare Metaworld: I don't want to be furniture anymore! (Kagu nante mou iya da!)
Meta Reverse: (Mondou so tsumori wa nai!) Rough one, not 100% sure if I have the Japanese right so I'm not even going to try the english
Meta Re-expansion: Don't underestimate me! (Boku wo Mikubiru na!)
Meta Re-objection: Ridiculous! (Bakabakashi!)
Forced Meta Expansion: I'll struggle one last time! (Mou ichido agaite yaru!)

Meta Special: blblblrblrbrrblbl this is my victory! (blurblurblrubrlublrburlb boku no kachi da!)
Meta Special if miss: Ridiculous! (Bakabakashi)


Shannon:

Declare Metaworld: I'm not furniture!! (Watashi wa kagu ja nai!)
Meta Reverse: Please stop it! (O-yame kudasai!
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: I've kept my end of the promise!! (?) Beatrice!! (Yakusoku wo mamorimashita, Beatrice-sama!!!)
Meta SPecial vs Beatrice: I've kept my end of the promise, ???


Eva-Beatrice:

Declare Metaworld: Something about showing people her magic
Meta Reverse: No waaaaay! (Daaameeeeeeeeee!)
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Chiester 410:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion: Its up to 410! (410 wo Makasemasu!)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Ronove:

Declare Metaworld: Something like 'Please receive this graciously'(Ukete wa onegai itashimashite)
Meta Reverse: This tension is enough (Tenshon wa juubun desu)
Meta Re-expansion: This is not your game. (Kore wa anata no geemu de wa nai)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: This kind of stimulation is good medicine, isn't it? (Kono you na shigeki wa yoi kusuri deshou)


Jessica:

Declare Metaworld: I'll show you what happens when I get serious! (Watashi no honki, misete yaru ze!)
Meta Reverse: Shutup! (Urusai ze!)
Meta Re-expansion: Bring it on, something something something(Joutou da ze, something something something)
Meta Re-objection: You think I'm scared? (Bibi-te no ka yo?) I'm really not sure about the Japanese on this one, much more confident in the english though.
Forced Meta Expansion: I'll cut through fate! (Unmei wa kirihiraku!)

Meta Special: Everyone, let's go!!! (Minna, iku ze!!!!)


George:

Declare Metaworld:
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:


Erika:

Declare Metaworld: Here I'll expose you! You're the culprit! (Kokuhaku shimasu! Anata ga hannin desu!)
Meta Reverse: Isn't this interesting? (Omoshiroi ja nai desu ka?)
Meta Re-expansion: Truly, GOOD!(Jitsu ni GOOD da wa!)
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion: Checkmate! My reasoning is unshakable! (CHECKMATE! Waga suiri wa yurugimasen!)

Meta Special:


Dlanor:

Declare Metaworld: If you have reasoning, lets hear it!(Suiri ga aru nara, ukagaimashou!)
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special: This is the end! etc etc (Kore wa owari desu! Die the Death! Sentenced to Death! The Great Equalizer is Death!)

Black Battler:

Declare Metaworld: Make me laugh even more! (Ore wo motto warawaserou!) He has more then one of these btw, don't know the other one off hand
Meta Reverse:
Meta Re-expansion:
Meta Re-objection:
Forced Meta Expansion:

Meta Special:



Anyways, thats my input. I am by no means exceptional though, so feel free to correct what I've written

EDIT: Also voice rips for most, if not all, of the non-X non-Cross characters can be found on this guys Youtube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/Garshilan#g/u

[LyricalAura]

Kumasawa is married?

She has a son named Sabakichi. Presumably there was a man involved at some point.

[Azule]

B.Battler says something like "Let's get this dance of demons started" when he declares meta against a human...the guy below got the rest better than me xD

[Nanashi_1337]

If you don't mind that I join. I would like to attempt to translate what B.Battler says. I will name directional buttons as the numbers on the right part of the keyboard. I'm not aiming for an exact translation, but an accurate one that fits better with the personality of the character and Umineko games. I'm also going to put the Romaji, and a (?) if I want confirmation from an expert.

Dark Truth (236+AtckButton):

Weak) How about this? <-- Koitsu wa dôda?
Mid) I'll dirty you. <-- Yogoshi teyaru. (?)
Strong) Don't dodge this. <-- Yoke runayo.

(236236+StrongAtck) <-- Aka 2SP. Translation of the attack, please.

Note: This attack has different versions depending on who you use it against.

Battler) We are... the culprits.<- Hannin wa... oretachi.

Default
Kirie) Let's split the job. <-- Tewake shiteikimasho.
Rudolf) Okay... let's finish this cleanly. <-- Oo..Tegiwa yoku suma seteyaruze. (?)

Default2
Rudolf) Let's go, Kirie. <-- Ikusee Kirie.
Kirie) Yes, Rudolf-san. <-- Ee, Rudolf-san.

VS. George, Jessica, Lucifer, Siesta410, Erika, Dlanor, Rosa, Shannon, Kanon
Kirie) This is a bad dream. <-- Kore wa warui yume mo.
Rudolf) See ya, _______. <-- Jaa na, George-nii/Jessica-chan/Ojou-chan(Lucifer/Siesta410/Erika/Dlanor)/Nee-san(Rosa)/Shannon-chan/Kanon-kun.

VS. Beatrice
Kirie) Goodbye, Golden Witch. <-- Sayonara, Ougon no Majo.
Rudolf) See ya, Beatrice. <-- Jaa na, Beatrice.

VS. Normal Battler
Kirie) Let's end this make-believe family. <---- Kazoku gokko hamou owari nano. (?)
Rudolf) My bad... Battler... <-- Warui na... Battler...

VS. EVAtrice
Kirie) You're correct, Eva-neesan. <---- Eva-neesan wa tadashii wa. (?)
Rudolf) See ya. Sis. <-- Jaa na. Aneki.

VS. Ange
Kirie) Forgive your bad mother. <---- Warui Okaasan wo yurushi tene.
Rudolf) My bad... Ange... <-- Warui na... Ange...

[legomaple]

Keep these coming please. It is awesome =D

[Klashikari]

With all due respect, I think it would be much better if people actually translate when they do have appropriate japanese knowledge. Putting half translation or approximate one isn't exactly the best idea.
For instance, B. Battler quote is よけるなよ which actually means "don't dodge" and not "dodge this". (the な particle here is used for negative form of the plain/dictionary form of a verb)
Also, due to how broad 犯人 is, it doesn't always mean "criminal", especially with the context used in Umineko.

[Nanashi_1337]

I'm putting what I get by combining my limited grammar knowledge, plus dictionary (plus some help from google translation to help me find the entries in the dictionary, because searching from the number of lines made in one stroke is a pain in the ass sometimes). If you want to help me understand what I did wrong, then better for me, because that way I learn more. Now I know that using "na" between the verb and "yo", which is like an exclamation mark, transforms the verb in negative form.

[Klashikari]

No, yo isn't an exclamation mark at all. It is more like a mark of assertion, and "speech style", similar to Jessica's "ze".

By the way, Na would be a completely different meaning if the verb isn't in plain/dictionary form. For instance, it would the complete opposite if B Battler says "よけてな" which would be the form used for "dodge".

Either way, it would be way too misleading for readers if people start translating with limited japanese knowledge, hence why I've made such remark.
And before anyone is asking: I don't have exactly the time nor the energy to translate battle quotations, especially considering the insane number of them.

[Nanashi_1337]

Then what's the "yo" from kore wa uso desuyo? What's the difference? I mean, this right there says "This is a lie!". The "yo" denotes exclamation.

[Klashikari]

Emphasis in this case. That doesn't mean it is "an excalamation mark" because in various instance, the yo does -not- carry any exclamation side. For example, if I put "かんたんですよ", that doesn't necessarily mean "gee, it is easy as pie", it all depends of the tone used. A lot of end sentence particle cannot be transcribed with a single meaning.

[Nanashi_1337]

Sorry, I'm translating from Spanish to English, and I didn't know how to say emphasis (didn't know if this word existed), so I just went with exclamation mark before. Mistranslation for my part. I wanted to say that it puts emphasis. Though I see you can use it to soften what you say, like adding a smile. Though in B.Battler's case, that makes it creepy.

[~Ayane~]

Sorcerer Battler seems like he'd be the ''One character in the game that's overpowered as hell and no one can beat him and isn't allowed in serious play''

Why would he be overpowered?
He isn't even that strong to begin with.
If they wanted to make a superboss, then Featherinne is the only choice, but if they wanted her to be a normal character, then that also would be possible.
It's not like the present (and future) cast is equal in power canonically anyway.

When using Dlanor and switching to Virgillia, Dlanor says

''Mrs. Virgillia''

Implying Japanese people would pay attention to the difference between "Miss" and "Mrs"

[Klashikari]

BATTLER is hardly your random meta character: he is the only one who managed to blast goats en masse, while Will and Dlanor had difficulties to do so on the longrun.
This and "that punch".

Nowhere close to creator or traveler witches, but potentially the strongest "ushiromiya and furnitures" character, closely followed by Beato, Ange and Maria.

[Azule]

BATTLER was unable to mow down the goats again, though. Sure, he had a powerful first strike, but after that all he had was a punch whilst his sword charged. If his first strike missed, then he'd be an above average "ushiromiya and furnitures" character, but by no means the strongest. I'd say that the Siesta troops are probably among the strongest, seeing as they could mow down anyone apart from the endless magic users with one hit.

[Nanashi_1337]

I'm still trying to find somebody that has made a joke about that Falcon Punch to Bern's face.

[orangejuicetang]

I'd say that the Siesta troops are probably among the strongest, seeing as they could mow down anyone apart from the endless magic users with one hit.

nitpick, they couldn't take out Erika in the last battle, and Erika's not an endless magic user.

[Snow_Storm]

I will love all of you guys forever if you translate the before and after fight quotes!
Keep them coming!

[U Metal]

I will love all of you guys forever if you translate the before and after fight quotes!
Keep them coming!

+1

I'm loving Ronove's and B.Battler's quotes the most as of yet, along with Kanon and Shannon's initial declarations. Can't wait to see the rest, thanks for taking the time to translate them.

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

Restating an old idea of Battler being simply edited instead of creating a whole new character cause lol. Just change his C attacks to slashes and his Meta Super to him firing a giant Gold, not Blue, Truth laser. Less work for 07th Expansion and (presumably)less waiting time for us.

[SilverSyko]

If they wanted to make a superboss, then Featherinne is the only choice, but if they wanted her to be a normal character, then that also would be possible.
.

I could definitely see Featherine as the ultimate challenge of the game considering she's so overpowered in the context of Umineko's world. Just being able to manipulate the world to her liking, not put any effort into fighting at all and still be victorious.

In that case though she shouldn't be playable, have no swap-out partner, and her maximum health should decrease every time you lose to her and try again. Sort of like Parace L'sia from Arcana Heart 3:

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Fuck this bitch. Seriously. It's unbelievable how many times I had to retry before I could actually beat her, even with the handicap. Frustrating as hell. But it's oh-so-satisfying when you do finally bring her down. :heh:

But anyway, from that video you should be able to easily agree Featherine would be an appropriate character like that for Golden Fantasia no?

[Revelation]

I imagine the reason that there's still no Featherine is because she would fight like this....

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Also, did anyone ever manage to upload a video on Youtube beating the final B. Battler to see what's after? Thanks.

[immblueversion]

Naw, Featherine fighting would be more like this (skip to the 10:45 mark of the video):

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[~Ayane~]

I imagine the reason that there's still no Featherine is because she would fight like this....

2Hdlgmq_coQ


Haha, I just wanted to post that!
But I wanted to emphasize the end of that video.
I would SO laugh my ass of if Featherinne turned out to be oneshotkill character but on the other hand a character that is completely useless as long as you don't let her charge.
God, I actually want that to happen so much.

[Walterion]

Ougon patch comes out today, so far from the information given it will contain:

Black Battler in your system voice.
Black Battler in your online play.
Black Battler in your balance slot.
Black Battler all across the board.

[GospelDS]

New tweets from 07th Expansion!

"本日深夜に夢想曲のパッチを配布させて頂く予定です。今回のパッチでキャラの微調整＆ネット対戦で黒き戦人 が使えるようになります。ぜひ、遊んでみてください！（07thStaff）"

"また、黒き戦人が解放されていれば、システムボイスも自動で追加されますので、よろしければコンフィグから 選択してみてください！（07thStaff）"

So, the new patch will be released at midnight (Japan) and will add character fine tuning as well as Black Battler for Network mode (finally!!). Furthermore, the second tweet says something about additional system voices, if I'm not mistaken.

Ougon patch comes out today, so far from the information given it will contain:

Black Battler in your system voice.
Black Battler in your online play.
Black Battler in your balance slot.
Black Battler all across the board.

Seems like you were a little faster than me XD"

[Nanashi_1337]

Black Battler in your system voice.

Heck yeah, I really wanted to make this my default voice. And finally, I can use him online!

Also, appreciated the balance patches. Though I wonder what they balanced in this new patch.

[Walterion]

New patch is out.

http://07th-expansion.net/cross/Main.htm for the patch.

The notes:

・黒き戦人がネットワーク対戦で使用可能になりました。
　・黒き戦人のシステムボイスが追加されました。(黒き戦人が解放されている事が条件です)
　・空中ガード後も地上と同様の投げ無効フレームが設定されました。
　・空中ガード後の硬直が延長されました。
　・アタックタッチが空中ガード不可属性に変更されました。

　・ネットワーク対戦時に選択したBGMが反映されない不具合を修正しました。
　・ネットワーク内のトレーニングモードで体力設定が反映されない不具合を修正しました。
　・その他、細かな不具合を修正しました。


If someone can translate these, please, it would be helpful. Not trusting Google translator at all.

[U Metal]

B.Battler's culprit move has been changed. I THINK it deals less damage (not too sure, 480 against Beatrice now) and it knocks the opponent up at the end regardless of well, everything. Also, it seems to last shorter... but that might be the opponent being knocked up at the last hit giving that illusion.

Other than that, I'm not sure, Google Translate gives gibberish aside from the things we already knew.

[Klashikari]

No, the damage wasn't affected, but it indeed force a knockdown, which isn't too bad (combo finished so to speak). The number of hit is the same though.

Translations:

-Black Battler is now playable for Network mode.
-Black Battler's system voice has been added (this requires Black Battler to be unlocked first)
-A throw invalid frame has been added after an air guard, similar to the one on ground.
-Block stun after an air guard has been extended (they use 硬直, which means rigidity, stiffness, petrification, so should be that).
-The attribute of Attack touch move against an air guard has been changed.

-The glitch that prevented BGM selection for Network play has been fixed.
-The glitch that didn't apply the life bar settings for training during network play has been fixed
-Other issues have been fixed.

[Tong]

07th-expansion.net/cross/patch/cross_v201.zip

RIP B.Battler SP2.
Thanks for the translations Klashikari

[SkullClad]

Ah thanks, didn't know this rule.

So, in short, just general gameplay, not specific tweaks?

[Klashikari]

The SP2 is still potent enough for end combo damage and stun damage. It isn't as vanilla as other regular damaging SP2.

And no, they didn't give details of the other possible changes or specific tweaks.

[SkullClad]

Err... I downloaded it and extracted, however it opens a pop up and does nothing. How to install it?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Err... I downloaded it and extracted, however it opens a pop up and does nothing. How to install it?
Try running the exe and see what version it says.
I thought the installer didn't do anything,
but when I clicked the game exe it did something and my version was updated.

[SkullClad]

No. It says "2.00".

http://s1052.photobucket.com/albums/s445/SkullClad/?action=view&current=popup.jpg

Here it is.

[Nanashi_1337]

So they made the SP2 send the opponent flying with the last hit (the same way his DP does), instead of not doing this at all. While some combos may be affected by this effect, the SP2 is still more useful than Battler, IMO. And I can still connect the laser after the last hit, so that's okay too.

Also, I am disappointed at his voice, I thought it would be better. Oh well, time to go online with some friends.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

No. It says "2.00".

http://s1052.photobucket.com/albums/s445/SkullClad/?action=view&current=popup.jpg

Here it is.
Tried running the patch from the game's directory?
And I assume you already have your PC set to Japanese locale?

[TwilightsCall]

too lazy to make my feeble attempt at translating til my normal computer is back up and running, so if anyone wants to take a crack at this be my guest:



　・ルシファー及びロノウェのダウン状態喰らい判定が調整されました。
　・ベアトリーチェの与スタン及び与ガードブレイク値が調整されました。
　・黒き戦人のノーマル操作モード時のHP設定が変更されました。
　・以下の技について調整が行われました。
　　ベアトリーチェ：赤き真実
　　ワルギリア　　：魔方陣設置
　　古戸ヱリカ　　：6B、山羊どもぶっ放せ！
　　黒き戦人　　　：認め難き真実によるチェックメイト


In addition, I am also incapable of installing the patch. Just opens up the patcher and says "windows installer service could not update the application" or whatever and closes, saying something about the program might not be installed. Do you have to have Ougon installed in the default directory for the patcher to work? :(

PS tried app locale, running it from the directory, running it from the directory above, running it from the directory below, and so far no dice :/

[SkullClad]

In addition, I am also incapable of installing the patch. Just opens up the patcher and says "windows installer service could not update the application" or whatever and closes, saying something about the program might not be installed. Do you have to have Ougon installed in the default directory for the patcher to work? :(

PS tried app locale, running it from the directory, running it from the directory above, running it from the directory below, and so far no dice :/

Same to me. Except that I'm not sure about app locale. Someone can explain how to verify that?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Applocale is a program used to run programs in their native locale language if they don't work properly with your PC's locale language.
Me, I just set my PC to Japanese locale and never had to think about locale issues since.

It worked fine for me, and I have the game installed to the default location.

[SkullClad]

I tried applocale and it says that I haven't the language pack. I'll download it and try again.

[Azule]

I get this error...
"The upgrade patch cannot be installed by the Windows Installer service because the program to be upgraded may be missing, or the upgrade patch my update a different version of this program. Verify that the program to be upgraded exists on you computer and that you have the correct upgrade patch."

Thankfully, it doesn't seem like i'm missing out on anything too major.

[SkullClad]

The patch didn't install. I tried applocale, perhaps I don't know how to use it, but no avail. It seems that I have to wait one of the new characters to arrive, so I simply cut and paste, maybe bringing the tweaks.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Anyone tried uninstalling and then reinstalling Ougon, installing the 1.10 patch and then CROSS?
Unfortunately, the patch worked fine for me so I can't check myself.

Of course, a edited exe like the english one or anything like that will probably screw up the patching,
but I assume most people didn't bother with those things since there wasn't a keybinder released.

[SkullClad]

One thing that I think it is strange: Kanjis appears just fine, but I don't find the option Japan in Control Panel > Language Options.

I suspected too of the edited exe and uninstalled it. I deleted the folder to see what happens if I start anew.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

One thing tha I think it is strange: Kanjis appears just fine, but I don't find the option Japan in Control Panel > Language Options.
Control panel
->
Clock, language and region
->
Change the date, time or number format
->
Administrative
->
Change system locale

Is how it goes on 7 at least.

[Solkiskey]

Control panel
->
Clock, language and region
->
Change the date, time or number format
->
Administrative
->
Change system locale

Is how it goes on 7 at least.

I did the exact same thing and it still gives me the same error.

[Hoshino Kazuki]

errrr~
anyone have the same error as me? I tried to re-install the game, patch to 1.10 then the cross expansion but it keep happening
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv185/saodoingoict/error.jpg

[SkullClad]

Mine appears a pop-up in Japanese. "1208, whatnot, ANSI, more whatnot".

Nothing worked. Guess I have to wait one more patch "1.10 style", it's the only that applied to me.

[TwilightsCall]

did all you people who tried reinstalling try installing it to the default directory? i suspect thats where the problem is.

Oh and if someone wants to tell me the default directory it installs to so I dont have to dig out my CD I would much appreciate it :)

[Hoshino Kazuki]

I tried to run the update in Safe Mode and it didn't even bother to start....
Does the folder of the game affect something?

[SkullClad]

did all you people who tried reinstalling try installing it to the default directory? i suspect thats where the problem is.

Oh and if someone wants to tell me the default directory it installs to so I dont have to dig out my CD I would much appreciate it :)

Default directory = C/Programs Archives and whatnot, yes? If yes, yeah, I tried reinstalling on it to no avail.

[Nanashi_1337]

How come there's so many people having trouble to install a simple update patch? :confused:

[Solkiskey]

How come there's so many people having trouble to install a simple update patch? :confused:

Can you tell me the original path to Ougon Cross? I installed the game on my desktop.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Can you tell me the original path to Ougon Cross? I installed the game on my desktop.
C:\Program Files\07th_Expansion\黄金夢想曲

[Hoshino Kazuki]

I think it was C:/Program File\07th_Expansion\黄金夢想曲

[Solkiskey]

Tried with the right path, and it didn't work. =/

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

OK, I downloaded the patch and it installed itself into the downloads folder...Yeah...I don't get it either. But that's what happened. So I copypasted the FILES folder and the Game Main exe into the Programs directory(Move and Replace). I just started the game and it says "v2.01" in the corner. It doesn't seem to have any problems.

[SkullClad]

OK, I downloaded the patch and it installed itself into the downloads folder...Yeah...I don't get it either. But that's what happened. So I copypasted the FILES folder and the Game Main exe into the Programs directory(Move and Replace). I just started the game and it says "v2.01" in the corner. It doesn't seem to have any problems.

Can you upload the folder and the bootup? Or tell exacty what navigator you utilized?

[TwilightsCall]

It bothers me to have to resort to the manual patch everytime, but I suppose its better then not getting it at all :/ I would also appreciate if you uploaded the files in the patch :)

[SkullClad]

I'd rather prefer the manual patch than the "automatic" that makes me freak out. :)

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

I don't know anything about 'navigators' or whatever, I just saved the patch when I downloaded it, like always. I extracted it into the downloads folder and double-dlicked the patch. Then it did some stuff that seemed like it was installing(can't read dem moon runes). I ran the bootup from C/Programs, but the game was at v2.00. I ran the patch again, but it still didn't work, so I went back to the download folder. I see a 07th Expansion folder(wtf) and open it. There's a GameMain.exe and a FILES folder, so i copypasta to Programs and *bam* v2.01 Black Battler Netplay shenanigans. I'll upload the folder, give me a min.

[SkullClad]

"Navigators", I mean "browsers". Sorry, my bad. My English sucks a little. :p

Thanks a lot!

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

OK, things were a little touch-and-go as the download stalled a bit, but here it is! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?oo37r6xd6s32yza Extract, then copypaste(Move/Replace) into your Ougon directory. It should work fine.

[SkullClad]

Yeah! It worked perfectly! You're a lifesaver! :)

[TwilightsCall]

Excellent, thank you very much :)

[SkullClad]

Now a small, yet annoying doubt: I tried to netplay with a friend of mine. But, perhaps due to our inexperience, it didn't worked. Anyone with more experience could teach the correct steps and hints?

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

I could never host Netplay...I always used Hamachi to receive connections and play...While we're on the subject of Hamachi, I'm scrapping the network(ASOugon) and creating 2 new ones in its place. I'll have the new info up by later tonight.

[Solkiskey]

If anyone wants to play, contact me~!

And thanks for the upload.

[catastrophe8]

Now a small, yet annoying doubt: I tried to netplay with a friend of mine. But, perhaps due to our inexperience, it didn't worked. Anyone with more experience could teach the correct steps and hints?

Use Hamachi? I think the game only works on LAN

[SkullClad]

I'm first heard of Hamachi now with you guys. Can you explain how to configure it? Some friends have the game (under my influence) and I want to play with them and other players across.

[Walterion]

I could never host Netplay...I always used Hamachi to receive connections and play...While we're on the subject of Hamachi, I'm scrapping the network(ASOugon) and creating 2 new ones in its place. I'll have the new info up by later tonight.

I await eagerly to see which new channels spawn.

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

Not yet done with Hamachi shenanigans, but I felt I had to share with you all a bit of logic I came up with when some guy randomly mentioned cupcakes in the IRC(He apparently meant 'Death'. whatevs)

Wait...cupcakes..Kids like cupcakes...The Bride in Kill Bill had a daughter named B.B. B.B.=Black Battler...The Bride's motive in Kill Bill was revenge for her daughter's (supposed)death. SO Culprit! Battler wants REVENGE against the Ushiromiya family(Rudolf specifically) for his 'mother' Asumu's humiliation and death!

Now Black Battler's seemingly meaningless name choice(There WERE better options, people.) makes perfect sense! Simply by previously viewing the films Kill Bill Vols. 1 & 2, this line of reasoning was possible for Furudo Erika-er, SonozakiUshiromiya! What do you think, everyone? :cool:

[Solkiskey]

Not yet done with Hamachi shenanigans, but I felt I had to share with you all a bit of logic I came up with when some guy ramdomly mentioned cupcakes in the IRC(He apparently meant 'Death'. whatevs)

Wait...cupcakes..Kids like cupcakes...The Bride in Kill Bill had a daughter named B.B. B.B.=Black Battler...The Bride's motive in Kill Bill was revenge for her daughter's (supposed)death. SO Culprit! Battler wants REVENGE against the Ushiromiya family(Rudolf specifically) for his 'mother' Asumu's humiliation and death!

Now Black Battler's seemingly meaningless name choice(There WERE better options, people.) makes perfect sense! Simply by previously viewing the films Kill Bill Vols. 1 &2, this line of reasoning was possible for Furudo Erika-er, SonozakiUshiromiya! What do you think, everyone? :cool:

Mind=blown

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

Aaannnnddd we have Hamachi! Same rules as the original network apply for both networks.
Network Names: AnimeSukiSeagulls & AnimeSukiSeagulls0
Passwords: ASS-->BbatoNetw4; ASS0-->MARIAdad=0

[DaBackpack]

Aaannnnddd we have Hamachi! Same rules as the original network apply for both networks.
Network Names: AnimeSukiSeagulls & AnimeSukiSeagulls0
Passwords: ASS-->BbatoNetw4; ASS0-->MARIAdad=0

Cool, thanks~

[Tong]

Extractable patch:
http://www.mediafire.com/?oo37r6xd6s32yza

[Snow_Storm]

I dunno if this has been brought up but the whole using Rosa shotgun blast spam because the AI can't block it? Yeah, it's been fixed.

Anyway, I seem to be missing a few CGs for a few character endings. Can somebody tell who I need to use to unlock them?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z154/TheSnowKid/Umineko-MIssingCG2.png

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z154/TheSnowKid/Umineko-MIssingCG1.png

[k_polaris]

I dunno if this has been brought up but the whole using Rosa shotgun blast spam because the AI can't block it? Yeah, it's been fixed.

Anyway, I seem to be missing a few CGs for a few character endings. Can somebody tell who I need to use to unlock them?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z154/TheSnowKid/Umineko-MIssingCG2.png

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z154/TheSnowKid/Umineko-MIssingCG1.png

If I recall correctly those should be the George-Shannon and Erika-Dlanor endings.

[Oroboro]

I dunno if this has been brought up but the whole using Rosa shotgun blast spam because the AI can't block it? Yeah, it's been fixed.

Anyway, I seem to be missing a few CGs for a few character endings. Can somebody tell who I need to use to unlock them?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z154/TheSnowKid/Umineko-MIssingCG2.png

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z154/TheSnowKid/Umineko-MIssingCG1.png

George / Shannon, Erika / Dlanor (Gives two pictures)

[Snow_Storm]

George / Shannon, Erika / Dlanor (Gives two pictures)

Are you talking about the one where George got all the bitches and the one where Dlanor and Erika fight Jessica during her concert while she dressed as her mom? If so, I already got those.

[Oroboro]

George/Shannon is a CG involving George putting a ring on her finger, so.

The Jessica concert with Erika and Dlanor ending should be to the right of B.Battler/Shannon though. It's where it is in my game, and all the other pictures seem to be in the right spots looking at your screenshot.

[Walterion]

Played with SonozakiUshiromiya, I think, several matches. I lost count of them, probably it was 20 different matches or so.

I have a few replays so I will get them together and upload a video or something. I lost a few due to my bad play with George.
Some matches are just fooling around, but it all went okay and we both had fun, I think we both did.

[SkullClad]

Played with SonozakiUshiromiya also. Sincerely I lost the count of the number of matches. But all were good and we both had fun.

I have forgotten about replay. Maybe starting tomorrow I'll start recording. Seriously, many of the matches were really close ones for both sides. XD

[Azule]

Missing CG1 is EndStory20, and I think it's George/Shannon, George/Kanon or George/Battler.

Missing CG2 is EndStory 34, the AllClear CG and the one for beating B.Battler

EDIT: And i've installed Ougon into the default directory and all that lot. I'll just use the manual patch.

[Kirroha]

Any news of a keybinder yet? I can't activate meta without one.

[catastrophe8]

Any news of a keybinder yet? I can't activate meta without one.

I'm currently using VJoy. Pretty good alternative, downside is that you have to enable it everytime you're playing

[o0Mystique0o]

Anyone perhaps know what jessica's stage music is in Ougon X?
Because it seems they changed it back into tsurupettan in cross..

[Snow_Storm]

Missing CG1 is EndStory20, and I think it's George/Shannon, George/Kanon or George/Battler.

Missing CG2 is EndStory 34, the AllClear CG and the one for beating B.Battler

EDIT: And i've installed Ougon into the default directory and all that lot. I'll just use the manual patch.

George/Shannon is a CG involving George putting a ring on her finger, so.

The Jessica concert with Erika and Dlanor ending should be to the right of B.Battler/Shannon though. It's where it is in my game, and all the other pictures seem to be in the right spots looking at your screenshot.


Cool. Thanks guys.

[Toku]

Does anyone know where I can find a reliable download of the 1.10 patch? I did find the links here:
http://07th-expansion.net/ogon/update.html
But they were going at like 20 kb/s and lower, and my net isn't reliable enough to keep a download going all day long. And Megaupload is gone, so...

[Walterion]

Does anyone know where I can find a reliable download of the 1.10 patch? I did find the links here:
http://07th-expansion.net/ogon/update.html
But they were going at like 20 kb/s and lower, and my net isn't reliable enough to keep a download going all day long. And Megaupload is gone, so...

I will be a bro about this and reupload the file to Mediafire. It will be split into 4 parts, cause Mediafire can only handle 200 MB per file, so yeah.

In about 3 hours it will be up or so.

[Toku]

I will be a bro about this and reupload the file to Mediafire. It will be split into 4 parts, cause Mediafire can only handle 200 MB per file, so yeah.

In about 3 hours it will be up or so.

Thanks! That really helps.

[SkullClad]

Finally learning to declare Metasuper in keyboard!!

[CrimsonMoonMist]

F5U_H3dDSkw

[Walterion]

That Shannon corner loop is pretty damn nasty.

[SkullClad]

3:23 onward >>>>>>>>>>>> the whole video.

[Walterion]

Managed to upload it in 4 part to Mediafire

Download all 4, decompress it twice (rar and then ZIP) and in there should be the patch.

Part 1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?5bodbdgvgvbayhv)
Part 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?04p9z3zxb0fc0nf)
Part 3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?00v6pr200v8ey3s)
Part 4 (http://www.mediafire.com/?y8bdck1l57iwt28)


If any of the parts doesn't work, tell me and I will reupload it.

[Toku]

Managed to upload it in 4 part to Mediafire

Download all 4, decompress it twice (rar and then ZIP) and in there should be the patch.

Part 1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?5bodbdgvgvbayhv)
Part 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?04p9z3zxb0fc0nf)
Part 3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?00v6pr200v8ey3s)
Part 4 (http://www.mediafire.com/?y8bdck1l57iwt28)


If any of the parts doesn't work, tell me and I will reupload it.

Works great, thanks again!

[The Creator]

Hey, could someone upload a save file with all the cgs unlocked please?

[Nanashi_1337]

Someone posted one in this thread, go back some pages to find it. It's the guy who claimed that he beat B.Battler boss with screenshots.

[Joachim13]

Did the new patch fix B. Battler's special move invincibility? Like how if you try to hit our counter any of his 236H, 623H, 236x2C, or 214H attacks you can't do any damage? I don't mind his 214H, but more than one is just annoying.

[Kirroha]

I'm currently using VJoy. Pretty good alternative, downside is that you have to enable it everytime you're playing

But I'm playing with the keyboard, and not a joystick.

[catastrophe8]

But I'm playing with the keyboard, and not a joystick.

LOL It's a keymapping program, not a joystick
http://headsoft.com.au/index.php?category=vjoy

[Kirroha]

Doesn't that map computer keys to joystick keys? Or am I wrong? S:

[catastrophe8]

Doesn't that map computer keys to joystick keys? Or am I wrong? S:

Yup, from there you can set your joystick keys on the game and use it that way.

Example:
You want light attack as "P"
So you set "P" as "Button 1" on VJoy
Then you set "Button 1" as "Light Attack" on "bootup.exe"

[Kirroha]

Is there a way to make ZXC one key, then?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Is there a way to make ZXC one key, then?
You can set it like any other key,
like if you set 'W' as button 6, you choose button 6 on the last of the 3 shortcut options in Ougon's controller menu and you can activate meta with 'W'.

[Kirroha]

Oh, I see. Can someone help me translate the Japanese from Bootup.exe? I get the weak, medium and strong attacks, but I don't understand the three others below.

[DaBackpack]

Oh, I see. Can someone help me translate the Japanese from Bootup.exe? I get the weak, medium and strong attacks, but I don't understand the three others below.

I think it's touch, taunt, pause?

And then grab, SP, and meta declaration I think.

[catastrophe8]

Oh, I see. Can someone help me translate the Japanese from Bootup.exe? I get the weak, medium and strong attacks, but I don't understand the three others below.

English version of the Bootup.exe (Backup your save, there were reports of saves being deleted)
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-1705ac10.html.

[Hoshino Kazuki]

English version of the Bootup.exe (Backup your save, there were reports of saves being deleted)
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-1705ac10.html.

Is this for 2.00 or 2.01?

[catastrophe8]

Is this for 2.00 or 2.01?

Works on 2.01 for me
And the Bootup.exe wasn't patched, so I don't think it would matter

[Hoshino Kazuki]

tested
the key work fine, there are nothing wrong with the previous save either

[atruong18]

Tried using VJoy and fiddled with various ways, but still can't get Ougon to recognize the new inputs. Bootup shows VJoy, and I'm pretty sure I have VJoy running since I had to turn it off to type 'a' in this message.

Anyone know any solution to this? Window 7 OS

[Oblivion]

Tried using VJoy and fiddled with various ways, but still can't get Ougon to recognize the new inputs. Bootup shows VJoy, and I'm pretty sure I have VJoy running since I had to turn it off to type 'a' in this message.

Anyone know any solution to this? Window 7 OS

Same problem here.


To the post below: Wow, haha, it actually worked.

[Solkiskey]

Ougon only reads VJoy's key input when I'm not focused on the Ougon window. Like, what.

On a totaly unrelated note, anyone interested in playing a few games right now? PM me~

[TwilightsCall]

Make sure you're running everything as Admin. I had the same problem with Ventrilo playing another game, where if you are in a different program it wont recognize your inputs into background programs, like push to talk keys and I'm assuming VJoy inputs, if they aren't being run as Admin.

[Solkiskey]

I did, unfortunately.

[atruong18]

Make sure you're running everything as Admin.

tried only running Bootup.exe as admin. didnt expect that VJoy.exe needed to be ran as Admin as well. well that made things work now. thanks for that.

[Azule]

I really hope they patch Dlanor, or at least add damage scaling to her grabs. 4C -> Meta - Meta SP ->SP Grab -> 1/3 C deals around 2200...that's a lot just to get hit by a meta and an SP move.

[DaBackpack]

I totally didn't really realize this when I was playing (lol) but it seems that the backgrounds for the game aren't animated for me at all, ever, even when I swore that stages like Jessica's had movement going on.

Any ideas what's wrong?


EDIT: Also, stages like the Meta Lounge don't have any of the characters sitting. The rose garden doesn't have the corpses either. Did they remove them? Or is something wrong with my installation? I don't remember this changing o_o I feel sorta stupid for not realizing til now though.

[LyricalAura]

There's a setting that simplifies the backgrounds for low-spec computers. Maybe you changed it by accident?

[DaBackpack]

There's a setting that simplifies the backgrounds for low-spec computers. Maybe you changed it by accident?

Silly me XD I fiddled with those options some more and fixed it.

Thanks!

[theacefrehley]

Sorry to bother
But I'm missing one ending
It's ending story 09 (below Battler+Lucifer)

Does someone knows how to get this one? Which combination?

[immblueversion]

Sorry to bother
But I'm missing one ending
It's ending story 09 (below Battler+Lucifer)

Does someone knows how to get this one? Which combination?

Beatrice & Virgilia?

[theacefrehley]

Beatrice & Virgilia?

Thank you very much.

[Hoshino Kazuki]

Beside Batter and Siesta410, is there any more possible ending for Lucifer?

[Walterion]

Beside Batter and Siesta410, is there any more possible ending for Lucifer?

Ange and beato.

[Hoshino Kazuki]

Ange and beato.

Thank you very much
btw: anyone know the name of the really sweet song which play during the last battle of Lucifer/B.Battler and the enemies are Dlanor/EvaBeatrice

[Walterion]

Thank you very much
btw: anyone know the name of the really sweet song which play during the last battle of Lucifer/B.Battler and the enemies are Dlanor/EvaBeatrice

Really sweet song? does it have vocals? Cause I think I know which one you mean, but just making sure it is that one.

[Hoshino Kazuki]

Yes, it is a vocal one

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Thank you very much
btw: anyone know the name of the really sweet song which play during the last battle of Lucifer/B.Battler and the enemies are Dlanor/EvaBeatrice
The promise remix?
The only one of the boss themes I can think of that have vocals.
The boss themes that play with teams with no stories are random, aren't they?

[Walterion]

I need someone to translate this, please. If it is what I think it is, this is very important for all you Ougon Cross players.



[566] 今夜、２４時に～ 投稿者：竜騎士07 投稿日：2012/01/31(Tue) 21:14
今夜２４時に、色々更新しますよ。お楽しみに～！
あと、CROSSのウィルは２月末に公開予定です。
こちらもお楽しみに～！　アビリティが個性的で面白いですよー！



Thanks in advance.

[Tong]

Looks like Willard will be the first character to be released, in late february.

[Azule]

They're going one at a time? >.< Seriously...that means all the patches will have to be pretty large if they want Arcade runs and a new stage for each character. I'd rather just one large patch for everyone and everything.

[Nanashi_1337]

Damn, it wasn't Lambadelta first. Oh well, I'm really interested to see how Will is going to be like.

[~Ayane~]

Looks like Willard will be the first character to be released, in late february.

Are you fucking kidding me?

[Tong]

That's what the note says buddy.
And this is amazing!

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Yes, Will's the first one out!
I like that they release them one at a time personally,
help people keep interest.

[Azule]

That's what the note says buddy.
And this is amazing!

I kinda disagree with it being amazing. If Will's getting released on his own, then "Late Spring" could slip back even further for the other two. It could go in some pattern similar to Feburary -> March -> April, just to get the three characters who have been taunting me on that menu screen. And even then, we'd probably need to wait for arcade runs, CG's and balance patches to get the most out of the characters.

It's nice to have a date, but really disappointing that they're going one at a time. It just annoys people, in my opinion. >>

[User173096]

I'm waiting for Bern since the first Ougon and then Will is the first being released?? >.<

[SkullClad]

Willard is the first! Amazing!

I'd rather prefer one at a time. Helps keep interest and the size of patches won't be too large if were all the three.