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Conversation Between 0utf0xZer0 and Triple_R
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  1. Triple_R
    2013-10-18 20:01
    Your take on Hikari is interesting, and you may well be right. At the very least, I agree that he is open to multiple interpretations.

    Part of the reason why I'm inclined to think he's a little bit sexist is because the xenophobia is already clearly there. And it's been my experience in life that if a person has one type of prejudice, it's likely they'll hold other types of prejudice as well.

    My first comment on Hikari right after watching Episode 3 was that Okada is going full Archie Bunker with him, which admittedly was colorful exaggeration on my part. But I really am afraid that he's coming close to crossing the line from being on the road to a good redemption story to being someone that many people might find incredibly hard to forgive.

    I think Okada is trying very hard to write a compelling personal redemption story with Hikari, and for that type of story it admittedly does help if the "destined to be redeemed" character stats out at a pretty low point. After Episode 2, I felt that Okada had completely nailed it with Hikari. After Episode 3, I'm wavering between completely nailed it and "she went a bit too far". Only time will tell, of course.
  2. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-10-18 19:51
    Poster this to Pocari's wall, thought you might be interested:

    I think the debate rages because Hikari's actions actually do support multiple interpretations. Personally, I'm inclined to interpret him as a rough around the edges xenophobe with a tendency to run roughshod over people who give them the chance to - and the people who do are mostly female. The result makes him come across as a sexist prick and I kind of wish someone would call him out over the browbeating and general boorishness, but I'm not convinced he's truly sexist - ie. targeting the girls because they're girls. He just wouldn't necessarily act the same to a guy because they wouldn't stand for his shit - unless they're like the guy his sister likes and let him walk all over them. Yeah, he did exclude the girls from the discussion of beating up the one guy, but I think that's more a matter of him knowing they wouldn't side with him.

    Why were we complaining about one dimensional characters again?
  3. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-10-18 19:33
    Hozuki and Chinami (+ Yaya for her design) left the strongest impressions on me too so I'm not surprised they're your picks here. I don't here characters described as "effervescent" very often though it fits Chinami pretty well. Muriel and Mirai left fairly strong impressions on me too but not so much because they stood out as being particularly tiny or cute: I tend to be strongly sympathetic to timid girls.

    (As someone who tries to use them in stories, I have to say writing timid girls who leave a strong impression is actually rather difficult, it's probably why a decent number of them in anime end up being a bit bland. Though at the very least I'd submit that EF's Chihiro, K-On's Mio and Azusa, and Kotomi are classics.)

    Anyway "petite girls everywhere" has kind of been a running gag for me this season... I noted Chinami and Ai as being particularly cute before the season started, and then they piled on characters like Hozuki, Yaya and Komari as well.
  4. Triple_R
    2013-10-18 18:30
    I'm absolutely loving Hozuki. Best kid character I've seen in anime in awhile. It's like someone took the best aspects of a Disney kid character and the best aspects of the anime loli, and threw them altogether to create something wondrous that has all the strengths of both character types but almost none of their weaknesses. Wonderful character!

    I also agree with you on Yaya's character design, which helps to explain why I'm able to roll with her clingy personality.

    Chinami is pretty fun. She has this effervescent quality to her. Combine that with her thoughtfulness and eagerness to please, and she makes a very engaging character.

    I don't have a strong opinion yet on the other girls on your list, but I could see some of them growing on me over time.
  5. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-10-18 03:12
    That being said... I could resist putting together a list of who the directors and lead writers are on various KyoAni shows, because I think it might be useful:

    Kigami Yoshiji (with self): Munto

    Takemoto Yasuhiro:
    With Gatou Shouji (the guy who wrote the FMP novels): Fumoffu, TSR, Hyouka
    With Machida Touko: Lucky Star
    +Haruhi (see notes)

    Ishihara Tatsura:
    With Shimo Fumihiko: Air, Kanon, Clannad
    With Hanada Jukki: Chuunibyou, Nichijou
    +Haruhi (see notes)

    Yamada Naoko
    With Yoshida Reiko: K-On , Tamako Market

    Utsumi Hiroko:
    With Yokotani Masahiro: Free!

    Ishidate Taichi
    With Hanada Jukki: Kyoukai no Kanata

    S1: Ichihara Tatsura
    S2/Disappearance: Takemoto Yasuhiro with Ishihara as Chief Director

    This makes me quite curious as to what the "old guard" will work on next.
    I'd avoid making too much of Hanada being lead writer for Chuunibyou, Nichijou, and Kanata no Kyoukai - because he also was lead writer for the Sola and Steins;Gate animes.
  6. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-10-18 01:50
    The LN/anime comparisons are fair, just unfortunately timed as they exasperate what was already annoying me about the discussion.

    Edit: BTW, at this point, I'd like to wrap up my involvement with this discussion rather quickly. I'm hitting the point in the semester where I'm needing to devote more time to studies and I'm finding all this too tiring (though I still want your opinion on the petite list LOL).
  7. Triple_R
    2013-10-18 01:35
    Don't worry, I'm going to sleep on your post. It's worth reflecting on.

    I'll be honest - More than anything, I'm just pissed that KyoAni felt it was necessary to change Mirai the way they did. I feel like certain tropes and character elements are getting overplayed in anime lately, to the relative exclusion of others. Anyway, I'll leave it at that for now.

    Thanks for being through-provoking as usual.
  8. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-10-18 01:27
    I wasn't just going after the anime v. LN criticism there. The thread just kind of feels like the "let's dogpile on Mirai!" thread in general. The rest I'll let my post explain.

    Ugh, I really should have just quit the thread rather make that kind of "rage against the general tenor of the discussion" post. I'm too tired to be letting myself get dragged into this kind of thing these days.
  9. Triple_R
    2013-10-17 23:44
    Do you really not get why anime Mirai is taking a lot of heat? It's because LN Mirai sounds way better to most of us!

    There hasn't been a major KyoAni female character quite like Yuki Nagato since, well, Yuki Nagato herself. Some of us would prefer a character like that over yet another shy, timid, wants to be decisive but struggling with it girl. You do realize just how commonplace Mirai's character type is in anime right?

    Yuki Nagato's character type is significantly rarer. That's probably part of the reason why characters like Yuki Nagato (Kanade, Eu, etc...) and Yuki Nagato herself tend to kick ass so much in moe competitions.
  10. 0utf0xZer0
    2013-10-17 01:41
    I suppose I at least have a shot at getting into Madoka 3 - you guys in Atlantic Canada never seem to have much luck with these things. I'm wondering if it's a case of different theatre ownership - looking at the list of theatres it'll be playing in Canada, most if not all of them are owned by Cineplex.

    I think the clearest way to illustrate how this is a petite girl dominanted season for me is to look at the shows where my favourite character is petite versus those where she isn't:

    Petite girl wins:
    Galilei Donna: Eight words: Hozuki's "please don't make me shoot" puppy eyes
    Golden Time: Chinami was on my "cute" list even before the show started airing
    Non Non Biyori: Komari-senpai
    Unbreakable Machine Doll: Yaya's character design unusually striking.
    Outbreak Company: Muriel - depending on whether you think she's a "petite" or "medium" option within the show itself.
    Kanata no Kyoukai: Ai is adorable, as a fan of timid girls I actually like Mirai a lot and she's on the small side

    While Golden Time's Linda is intriguing and KnK's Mitsuki really is a looker in glasses, most of these victories are pretty clear cut too.

    Contrast the cases where my favourite isn't the petite girl:
    Infinite Stratos 2: Charlotte obviously wins here, and I've never been nearly as much a fan of the loli-est of the bunch (Laura) as some are. Though Rin is petite and probably my second favourite. This one would probably be a more meaningful victory if the second season was leaving much of an impression though.
    Little Busters Refrain: This one has been leaving a much stronger impression than IS2 and Kurugaya has clearly eclipsed all others so far. That said, I could see Rin making a comeback here (my S1 favourites were Kurugaya, Kud, and Rin).
    Tokyo Ravens: Suzuka is actually a little bit annoying, so this one goes to Hokuto and especially Natsume.
    Strike the Blood: Err… I support lead hero X lead heroine route instead of the incest route? Bit of a weak victory.

    A few other shows like I'm watching like Kill la Kill, Samurai Flamenco and Coppellion don't have an impact either way.

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