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Conversation Between Archon_Wing and Last Sinner
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  1. Archon_Wing
    2016-06-19 18:28
    Wow, well that's a lot of shit. Sorry to hear that, but it's not atypical when it comes to anime discussion. It just seems like there's too many sacred cows and what results is a really insular discussion where everyone's not in the in is left out. We saw it with Kyoani, later Shaft, and also whatever VN is cool. I mean, it's only natural to be really protective of things of what one holds quality but at the same time when someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they hate you (or vice versa)

    I don't know enough about the subject matter, so i guess that's as far as I will pry.

    Well, glad to see you have things to look forward too. And as for Attack on Titan I'm curious on what kind of corner it'll write itself into. But whatever.
  2. Last Sinner
    2016-06-17 23:49
    Last Sinner
    The presence of karice67 became far more pronounced during the airing of Erased. That was where she was most vocal. She became rather obnoxious towards anyone who felt the manga was better, particularly in the final episodes as the two heavily diverged at that point. Using a director interview as an excuse, she claimed that the anime was above reproach/criticism for taking the path it did.

    Original ending, I have no issue with. But when the final episodes throw a ton of character development/behaviours out the window then ask you to believe in something that utterly contradicts all that came before in terms of logic/consistency, I do think there is a basis to be critical of it.

    And therein lies the issue. karice67 took extreme issue with that and was hostile to any person who preferred the manga. And she went up in arms at literally any comment that she perceived to be a spoiler. Ironically, almost all of them weren't. But as a mod explained to me, they could be perceived to be and had to be removed. I certainly wasn't in the wrong at any point, according to the mods. But karice67 took the self-righteous stance atop Mount Pious and cried foul at any manga person, then went into the manga thread, exhibited the behaviour that she had criticised herself then left and intentionally denied any right of reply. After the final episode, those that had issues with the ending or wanted to know how the manga did it messaged me for it - somewhere between 30 to 40 people. Yeah....people did care/want to know but karice67 had intimidated them to having to pursue it privately.

    What she fails to understand is that people weren't taking issue with the anime taking a different direction. It was how it did it. A sheer lack of consistency, failure to justify/properly establish certain characters. And that she refused to allow a contrary yet valid opinion to be discussed. I had a fairly passionate stance of being very crushed after the second to last episode. She went on a verbal assault and tried to have me found out of line for it. The mods didn't agree with her. After she gave some verbal attacks to Triple_R and Tempester, I had a chat with the mods and decided I'd had enough of posting there and most threads in general. Thought it might have been time to trust people could be civil overall. Sadly, the presence of people like karice67 - despite their intentions - make it utterly volatile and spiteful. Which she did with you, even though you had a valid inquiry.

    You haven't missed much so far this year. Aside from Rakugo and She And Her Cat, there hasn't been much else to keep for the long-term. Rakugo was a very adult, different, well done depiction of rakugo performances from decades ago and the ills/negatives of the times along with people in general. She And Her Cat is Shinkai-influenced. 4 short episodes about a woman and her cat. Kana Hanazawa really owned her role despite the limited time. Erased should have remained a winner but fell apart late - the manga is worth reading though since it did hold it together.

    So I said 'so far.' Here's why - July is going to be a good season. That I am certain of.


    Those in particular are three titles I think you'd find worth viewing. Orange actually managed to top the bestseller chat in the US with its 2nd/final omnibus a couple of weeks ago despite a sea of shounen and still held #2 last week. Amanchu is from the same author as Aria. ReLife is somewhere in between Erased and Orange content-wise.

    Orange goes to some dark places but handles the subject matter relatively well, looks good and obliterates shoujo tropes for the greater part. Kana Hanazawa is going to voice the lead female, Naho - I feel she is the best suited person for this role.
    Amanchu is about diving in the countryside. It's soulful and rejuvenating like Aria was. Simple but delightful. Aria staff are back so should be in good hands.
    ReLIFE is an intriguing mix of black humour, reality and optimism. It's a bit more dramatic/romance slanted but it still has the kind of maturity and refreshing approach Erased and Orange also have.

    Other possibilities are Danganronpa 3 in two lots (yeah, anime meh but original game for the first one was stellar). And eventually the new Shinkai movie will emerge by the end of the year. It has a world premiere in the US in July and then Japan cinema run in August.

    For those with tastes different to mine, the moe people will have their new Love Live and Rewrite while the shounens get their next helping of Food Wars. Those needing gory action will have the long overdue new lot of Berserk.

    My most cynical friends are looking forward to Orange, Amanchu and ReLIFE, as they've also read the source material and are very convinced by them. I think they may be worth you giving a go. Because we all know October will be freaking overrun with Attack on Titan 2 and good luck to anything else that season.
  3. Archon_Wing
    2016-06-17 01:26
    Ah, I'm sorry to hear that. I assume something had caused you to come over and honestly, I'm all ears/eyes, so don't bother holding back if you have more to say.

    I think it is an issue that seems to be a general trend (not focused on any individual) that it's almost like trying to steer conversations to either one of advantage or interest. Often times in an argument, we have people disingenuously trying to dig themselves out of a hole by effectively trying to throw out or censor certain topics. The Hibike Euphomium discussions were utterly frustrating as a result and truth be told I think that opposing sides have points but they're talking past each other and ultimately we could have discussed more about the show, but it's a lost cause.

    I mean, I try not to self-regulate threads unless something is offensive or insulting because as you know there is absolutely nothing to be gained from those things, I don't know. I think most of these things are done with good intentions but on the other hand it's sort of like well, actually there is a lot more meaning to the discussion here than at face value and sometimes when someone makes a judgement when they don't understand the topic fully, it leads to that.

    Though of course, I'm probably tooting my own horn, I mean we're talking about an analysis of Mari Okada stuff. But I just get the feeling that if the subject at hand were some of AS's darling series (Sup hyped LN of the month) then there would be no qualm, but mecha anime? Well screw that. That's a dead genre!

    Still, I understand your sentiment, and it definitely is a reason why I don't really post much anymore. Well, haven't been watching much though.
  4. Last Sinner
    2016-06-16 21:09
    Last Sinner
    I responded because you were the latest person karice67 has been rude/self-righteous towards. For months she's acted like she's the queen of AS. Gave up on talking in threads for the greater part because of all the flames she fans and conversations she steers to her point of view.
  5. Archon_Wing
    2016-06-16 11:42
    Hi. I don't know atm.

    What brings you here on this topic though? I'm more interested in that.
  6. Last Sinner
    2016-06-16 09:48
    Last Sinner
    karice67 trying to be forceful with you? My sympathies.
  7. Last Sinner
    2015-02-18 02:31
    Last Sinner
    I did some reading up on the leadup to the previous Wrestlemania and its leadup. The decision to make Lesnar be the one that ended the Undertaker's streak was solely Vince McMahon's. And Callaway aka the Undertaker was very shocked by this. I don't think he agreed with how it went down.

    Oh, there is a bit of irony in this Reigns vs Lesnar scenario. In reality, Lesnar always wanted to play for the Minnesota Vikings in the NFL but they cut him during camp because he was too volatile. Then he went to the UFC. As for Reigns, he actually did make it onto the Vikings roster for a bit.

    Mick Foley and Bret Hart have spoken out against what's been done in the previous 12 months. Hart also specifically targetted Triple H as a wrestler, in the sense he was never innovative and didn't do anything to revolutionize the business. Another sly way to attack how Triple H does business. Alberto del Rio being unfairly cut over the racist employee goading him into being hit is another blight against the organisation. And theren there's the whole CM Punk saga. One feels that if they don't get things right this Wrestlemania, they may have shot themselves in the foot permanently.
  8. Archon_Wing
    2015-02-18 01:19
    Lol, it does sound kinda funny. Since his relative is The Rock, and The Rock also got pushed too fast to the crowd's charin. Doesn't anyone learn anything?

    The whole thing sounds banal too. You have a guy that's booked to go to WM in a super predictible fashion while the alternative are just unceremoniously thrown. Meanwhile, Brock Lesnar who has been champion for the longest time just to make a few more dollars is going out the door (again) so it's pretty obvious he's gonna drop the title. None of this would be bad in of itself, except Lesnar's title run was pretty bad, like in not appearing most of the time and feuding with... mostly Cena. So we build this up and even took the Undertaker's streak as collateral damage to build up this unimpressive mound of nonsense. Meanwhile, when Lesnar takes the title away, we get Cena vs the Corporation v35 because that sure didn't get old 10 years ago with HHH again being teh bad guy and of course they can never be defeated, kinda like one of those 80s cartoons.

    It's like they didn't learn from last year which Batista randomly won it (I read that, and was like wtf, this guy is back lol) but at the very least they managed to conjure a great way for Bryan to get through. This, they've already said they're not gonna repeat that, because well, talk about digging yourself into a hole.

    It's 2015, so giving the fans what they want is changing. News and rumors travel faster than they've always been, and playing blind does them no favors.
  9. Last Sinner
    2015-02-13 21:38
    Last Sinner
    The fellow therein would be Victor Kudo from the third case of Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations. He is eternally ticked off and throws bird seed infinitely at whoever is responsible. Wright once joked that Kudo had unlocked the infinite ammo code. As much of a rager and somewhat of a crackpot Kudo was, he was the crucial reason Wright solved that case. Everyone else lied to infinity and back or were out for blood. Kudo, who was portrayed as being the nuttiest, was eventually the most honest and sanest of all the people Wright had to deal with. I found him to be one of the most intriguing/likeable side/one-off characters in the Ace Attorney universe because instead of being utterly camp, intentionally despicable or plain bland, Kudo was effective at his role and something rarely seen in that series of games. There were similarities to another character who appeared in several cases - Wendy Oldbag - but she was beyond bitter and a perennial liar. When it mattered, Kudo told the truth and Wright figured out the only way how that could have been possible. So hearing that militant, raging tune was the perfect compliment for him. It made up for the fact that case had freaking Godot as the prosecutor....I uttely despise idea how someone that is just a bland version of cool, sculls coffee to a fatal degree and isn't remotely funny was that liked - or his generic tune....

    Ah yes, Yosuga no Sora is licensed....pity I can't ever conscienably purchase it. If there was a version without the Sora arc, I'd have considered it. Oh well. But hey, once people hear about how borderline H it is, it will sell.

    If you need to see for yourself what a travesty the 2015 RR was, check it out on Youtube. There are that many vids of the full event. Of any recent PPV event, for that matter. WWE doesn't seem to even try to take vids down anymore. The irony is, because of the storm that forced Raw the next night to be at their HQ and have no audience, they showed the RR again for free that night. I think it's best you see for yourself - if you actually care to (because I wouldn't blame you if you don't) - so you understand how much of a travesty it was. Not because of the winner (Roman Reigns is one of the few people I actually like in that biz anymore) but how the match as a whole happened.
  10. Archon_Wing
    2015-02-13 17:13
    I really have no idea.

    Also, I see Yosuga no Sora's being licensed? Whoa. I was gonna talk to you about the Royal Rumble news, but that's clearly not as important.

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