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Originally Posted by Tak
Certainly peculiar, from an audience's point of view, which is what the original video is about, yes?
Let's take another example, it's perfectly normal for Mikumo from Delta to do her W sign in-verse. But as an audience, I can't help but to feel weirded out, because if you do that in certain parts of LA, you'd die.
You are escalating this to something else entirely. I said I am weirded out by certain usage of vocabulary, you argue how it is normal in certain context. Er, fine? You do realize our opinions aren't mutually exclusive?
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I don't remember you being this touchy or nitpicky about portraying German language correctly when it comes to the Empire from
Star Wars. And the Empire was a clear Nazi-proxy in that setting.
Here's the thing though, both Empire & Zeon are clearly not German. So they don't need to have "proper usage of German names" both in-universe and from the writing perspective. It's only natural.
By the same token, do you also have a problem with the Water Tribe in
Avatar for not portraying a proper inuit culture when they are clearly themed after it? Do you have a problem with Xing nation from
Fullmetal Alchemist for not portraying the Chinese culture correctly when they are clearly themed after it? And many other examples I can bring you from countless works of fiction.
If your answer is "yes" then I can only stare in amazement on how easily you can be weirded out by works of fiction.
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Originally Posted by Tak
Again, are we talking about audience perception or in-verse perception? I do not remember we are discussing UC language functions in-verse, and am not interested in that at this time.
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When you said that Zeon's language needs work. That's the moment you criticize the organization in-universe, right? And even from the audience perspective watching the show, what's there about Zeon language that you make a fuss about? The audience clearly know that Zeon are not Germans.
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Originally Posted by Tak
There you go again. There is no like or dislike here, it's take it or leave it.
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I mean, you can always leave it.
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Originally Posted by magnuskn
It is eminently ridiculous to assume that in, at most, 250 years, which are among the most technologically advanced years humanity will have, people who speak English (a Germanic language, by the way) would forget that German exists as a language and be unable to do a fucking Future!Google search what "Frau" means, especially if they are a well-off middle class burgeoisie family. They'd leave themselves open to ridicule by their peers.
"Frau" is not a pleasant-sounding word to speak in English, either, which is why it would not make its way into being a first name in the first place.
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The Wiki that you quote is right, but you understandably took the wrong conclusion from the whole thing especially because you haven't watched the show closely:
- Like the Wiki itself mentioned, there is no canon answer as to when the Anno Domini (AD) calendar ended and Universal Century (UC) began. So the 250 years that you & the Wiki came out with is no more than a theory. An unproven theory.
- It's not the span of the year that matters, but the situation & condition of the world during the end of AD that lead to UC. From the official materials, we are only given the broad strokes of what actually happened. Basically, the world went to shit. Overpopulation almost everywhere which lead to famine, diseases & endless conflicts until the last super-power nations took over, got together and formed the Earth Federation (EF). From there, they conducted Mega-emigration projects to take people away from Earth into space. The AD years just before UC was known to be quite chaotic to the point where the first EF president, Ricardo Marcenas, was assassinated in a colony-bombing just moments after he declared the beginning of the UC calendar.
- Since the most vital part of UC history was written in 1979 to 1981, it goes without saying that the internet as we know it today is not part of the UC canon. At least not until the year UC 0093. Even in the year UC 0079, civillians are still using TV broadcast as their source of information. We can safely assume that UC is the alternate history where internet (www) was never implemented for mass consumption. The only things resembling digital network is fully monopolized by the military and the related weapon-manufacturing companies.
- The lost of the old culture as we know it has been a recurring side-theme of Gundam. First, we have the fact that individual countries no longer exist. People refer to names like Japan & Australia as land masses instead of countries. The scene where Zeon Supreme Leader, Gihren Zabi, being oblivious of Hitler even after his Elder dad name-dropped him is like the capstone of the disconnect between the UC generation and the AD generation. If that's not enough, we have a character named Yuki in The Origin episode 5 who expressed his feelings of hardly knowing his Japanese heritage. The most he knew about old Japan is the Sakura season. So yeah, whatever happened during the last periode of AD, various cultures simply didn't make it and there's no worldwide public internet to keep the records.
- What you consider prim & proper names in our world today is so much different from what UC people do.