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I think there's a greater chance of Michael B. Jordan being brought back and made into the new Black Panther than Marvel simply recasting.

Actually that is not quite true.

Which part?

There's never a doubt that Marvel will bring back Jordan way before Boseman's worrying conditions. Ever since his Killmonger character was such a big hit and his death in the movie can still be easily negated, people have been discussing on "how" they will bring Jordan back instead of "if".

For starters, most of the suspects in question had existing criminal records and were considered to be dangerous criminals long before their premature demise at the hands of police officers. At the time of their untimely death, they were either resisting arrest or trying to pull a weapon of some sort. Take the George Floyd case for example, while everyone thought the police had over-exercised their power, the fact of the matter remains that George Floyd had prior arrest records, was high on drugs during the time of his demise, and was resisting arrest from start to finish. The reason why you didn't see this, is because the city of Minneapolis deliberately failed to release the whole body-cam video, and provided only partial release of the information.

The body-cam video was later released (after most of that city was burnt to the ground), and told a rather different story. The city is also trying to charge premeditated-murder on the police officer who handled this case, but that's likely to be dismissed now as it was never the intention.

Do those crimes made them deserve to be choked to death? Being shot in the back multiple times or being hurt just because they walk around wearing a ski mask? I'm not just talking about Floyd's case here. After & before his case, there are other more gruesome cases including an entire innocent black family which were women & children forced to the ground by the police with guns pointed at their heads with the officers uttering some really nasty words like putting bullets in their heads. And I can easily assume those are just the tip of the iceberg.

Nobody said these police officers should be excused for what they have done, but neither should the cities be excused for releasing partial information. But in all of those cases, the police officers were brought to justice, make no mistake about that.

However, does it warrant an all-out attack by extreme left-wing Marxist terrorist groups on numerous cities, the wholesome destruction of minority-owned businesses over half-dozen states, or the open beatings and sometimes killings of hundreds of individuals? More black people was hurt by these left-wing groups proclaiming to protect black lives than every case of police brutality from this year and the last combined. Never mind that these left-wing nuts are also the most overtly racist people I have encountered. A store I helped to remodel for a friend was also destroyed, for no other reason than because it exist. This is no longer a protest, it's a riot hijacked by communists. How do I know they are communists? Because these groups said so.

The worst part? The media and the Democratic party gave them a pass, even though a vast majority of police brutality and subsequent riots occurred in Dem ran cities. This was until recently, when rioters finally came knocking on their doors.

Speaking of police brutality, I live in LA, and the first I encountered was the now infamous Rodney King's case some 20+ years ago. However, instead of protesting at LAPD, the rioters opted to raid minority-owned businesses all over Los Angeles, many of these stores attacked were Korean-owned (thus leading to Korean militias banding to protect their stores), who had absolutely nothing to do with anything.

^ I never defend blind leftism or city destruction. All I did in my previous comments are condemning the police brutality.

Speaking about left & right will just open an endless can of worms.

I didn't say you did.

Again, it's a sentiment we all share, but it's also worth remembering that these police officers were brought to justice.

That said. Not all of those racist & corrupt officers are brought to justice even after they got exposed in various videos. Quite a number of them are still patrolling the streets.

And again, these has to be verified on a case-by-case basis. Are all of the shootings unjustified? I'd also say no.

It should also be worth noting that more than twice of unarmed white person are shot each year by police officers compared to black people, but the media doesn't like to tell you that. Wouldn't fit the narrative.

Ah, can't help it.

Some officers who beat the black sickly kid (who only had a stroll wearing a ski mask during covid) until he died in a hospital are still roaming free.

Are you talking about Elijah McClain? The 23 year old massage therapist who wore a ski mask and was unfortunately killed back in 2019?

If you are, then there is no concrete evidence to suggest that police officers were solely responsible for his demise, because he was well alive until paramedics injected him with 500mg of Ketamine to reduce agitation, which was possibly more than twice of the recommended amount, and caused a stroke.

Not to completely clear the officers' perhaps overuse of force in this situation, but the officers certainly did not intend to kill him, and there are no evidence to support this.

Yes. Just the fact that police will go after him & beat him just because he simply strolled to his home wearing a ski mask (because he found it comfortable for his health condition) is already very wrong to begin with. And officers who did it deserve severe punishment (which they didn't get). Did they even apologize?

He was freakin' innocent in that situation.

The police placed the man on the ground to cuff him as per standard procedure for arrest, later, he was placed in a hold for the administration of ketamine. There was no 'beating', unless you consider placing a suspect on the ground as 'beating'. The police responded because of a 911 call regarding a suspicious individual acting strangely in public apparently 'signing' random bypassers while wearing a ski mask, which no one could have guessed it was for health reasons. To most people, that is just a sketchy individual. The audio salvaged from the scene was also evident that Elijah McClain was agitated and resisted arrest from start to finish.

Yes, the incident was unfortunate, and I cannot stress that enough, but why should the police be punished or even apologize based on current evidence. They responded to a 911 emergency call, and placed a suspect under arrest even if it was an arrest gone wrong. The police did everything by the book, it's not as if the police purposely targeted that particular male and decided to wing it.

Now, there is a re-examination of this case, if there are new evidence to suggest the police officers were at the wrong, then they should be punished. However, based on current evidence, why should I immediately jump to conclusions? I for one, am not keen on prosecution based on 'feelings', especially during these times here in states affected by these senseless riots.

Of course he was resisting arrest. First, he was innocent and second, black people know that they will receive harsher treatment from the police. Heck, the officers who arrested him was caught on video making fun of the poor lad which lead to the answer below.

Why should they apologize? Why? They really hurt an innocent person by use of excessive force and that's not enough reason for apologizing? If there's no rules for it then they should make one. At least for common decency and honesty. "Serve and protect", man.

Not just in this case, whenever the police mistakenly caught proven innocent people, they at least should do some form of apology to the unfortunate party afterwards. It doesn't have to be public. Prove that they are here to serve the people, not be feared by people.

Had he complied with the arrest, nothing would have happened to him. Based on video evidence, the police were extremely patient with the suspect, asking him to STOP numerous times and provided clear verbal warnings before placing him against the wall with very little force. McClain then became agitated, and you can hear an officer shouting 'he is going for your gun', that's when the situation turned forceful.

Which part?

Do they know this? All they know is that they responded to a 911 call, encountered said suspect who ignored numerous warnings issued. The police warned McClain that they'd have to 'change the situation' if the suspect did not comply. They were as patient as police officers could be.

An absolute misunderstanding and terrible stereotype. As I mentioned earlier, and this is backed up by official statistics, if you are white and come into contact with the police, the chances of you getting shot or hurt is more than 50% higher than if you were black. Mainstream US media just don't like telling you that, because it’s not news worthy.

Second of all, police officers run like HELL if they could to avoid come into contact with any suspect who they know is black. The police officers who came into contact with McClain didn't even know he was black until they were in close proximity with the suspect, and that's after they warned him to stop many times.

Why? They did everything by the book. It ended badly, but it was not their intention. Moreover, an apology is not theirs to give, especially not before conclusive evidence.


Again, I am not saying the officers are on the right, but based on current evidence, there is no way I will agree to prosecute these individuals, especially not based on 'feelings'.

This part:

Is that how police officers supposed to act? This also answers most of your rebuttal above. The current police need to learn more human decency.

And willingness to apologize for the non/intentional mistakes they made is part of that common human decency.

Right, that was after the incident, not during. You gave me the impression that it was during the arrest, which was not evident in all the bodycam videos or audios I viewed/heard.

Nonetheless, the three officers (of which only one was involved in the arrest) were fired for their behavior.

That's irrelevant. My whole entire point is that one should not apologize or be prosecuted without ample evidence, and there wasn't enough evidence to convince me that these police officers were at the wrong for performing their arrest. They may be horrible human beings in private, but that does not mean a collection of evidence, a meticulous examination of said evidence, and a fair trial should be denied to them before any suggestions of prosecution. A legal prosecution must not be performed based on feelings alone.

Whether you think they need more human decency is a different story. Though I would caution you not to place all police officers in the same basket. That stereotype is an awful representation of police officers perpetuated by the media, even though a vast majority of police officers risk life & limb daily for the peace and security of our towns & cities. How often does the news report on heroics performed by police officers in the US compared to the amount of their wrongdoings?

Legally speaking, no, or at least not directly from the police officers unless instructed or permitted to do so.

And the point of my argument since the beginning is about human decency, not just about what's legal or not which ties back to the Chadwick Boseman & Black Panther. A flawed movie for sure but its theme of human decency still rings true especially T'Challa's final act in the movie.

And like I said before, if the police doesn't have rules about human decency among their officers then make some. It's really disturbing when finding out that the people who are supposed to protect you are a bunch of assholes. And yes, assholes can still obey the general rules but they will find some blind-spots & loopholes within the rules to do whatever the hell they want in expense of virtue or even justice in order to hurt someone else they don't like. Don't forget that officers can also fabricate an arrest or report especially if their coworkers are also in on it.

Keep the good police, get rid of the asshole ones.