During the old debate about whether or not Miho was justified in saving her teammates, you stepped in and defended Sumeragi when that he contended that Miho's actions were not justified. In and of itself, that is not the crux of the issue, but rather, it was your insinuations, that are problematic.
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Stop getting emotional. It irritates me and I don't like feeling any emotion of any kind. Calm, cold, rational analysis shows that this young girl may not have made the right decision. People's opinions of an ancillary character (Shiho) based on their personal interpretations of that one instance have people acting uncivilized to actual human beings. Think about that, opinions about a show have got people acting poorly, and irrationally, towards other real persons.
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The only two people who were getting emotional in that thread were you and Sumeragi. A calm,
objective and rational analysis shows that this young girl
in fact, made a decision consistent were her character as a capable commander. The circumstances simply were presented as such to give Miho a reason to transfer to Ooarai and start the events of Girls und Panzer. Further to this, people's opinions of an ancillary character were not uncivilized, it was only because Sumeragi stepped in and blatantly insulted everyone who disagreed with him, where things escalated. It was most certainly not opinions of the show that caused people to become riled up.
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Keep in mind that the people you are discussing (remember, discussion, not debate) are likely (maybe!) for all intents and purposes fully grown adults with jobs, education and perhaps leadership roles in various organizations. Let's not presume anyone is stupid here or is missing something obvious.
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Most of the people participating in the thread were indeed adults with an occupation. Those individuals clearly stated their positions, and obtained the evidence to defend their arguments. No one is presumed anything about the discussion's other participants. Ironically, by adding this statement into the mix, you affirm that Sumeragi's arguments are completely outmatched: there would be no need to remind people to stick only to attacking an idea if Sumeragi had indeed been using civilized, reasoned discussion. That clearly was not the case: during the whole of that particular discussion, it was only Sumeragi who resorted to insulting the other participants. For that, he received more evidence contrary to his position, leading him to resort to this gem:
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"I actually am in such a position, and loved for it. Sorry if reality is not as soft as some people think it to be, which is indeed true childishness. My occupation merges ruthlessness with situation awareness, and I've always been one to pick up the burden. That's why the those working for me follow my lead."
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Take a good look:
that is true childishness. I suppose reality is too tough for our precious "
onee-sama" to handle, then. Because the strength of his arguments has proven completely inadequate, Sumeragi resorts to fabricating credentials in attempt to bolster the worth of his arguments. All of this comes across as being immensely hilarious in retrospect; I joined AS much later and came across this argument only recently. Having seen Girls und Panzer, I was never much of a Shiho fan until the movie, where she has shown considerable honour and integrity, becoming someone who is presented as a respectable person and parent. Had Sumeragi actually maintained some civility and politeness, he would be still around to learn that his perspectives on Shiho weren't so far off. Instead, his chronic lies about his station and occupation, coupled with an incomplete, half-baked and biased knowledge of history, resulted in his (well-deserved) permanent absence from discussions about Girls und Panzer the movie. Just in case you weren't aware, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Sumeragi is the infamous Kang Seung Jae, and moreover, was only pretending to be female for internet points. Sumeragi also continuously pushed the narrative that he was a Korean-Japanese woman living in Vancouver who:
- Was a very intelligent, overachieving student that graduated from both Tokyo and Yonsei Universities
- Worked in a fortune 500 company owned by “her” parents
- Possessed net worth surpassing 10 million dollars
- Was a distant relative of the present Emperor of Japan
I know that a lot of people here were taken in by that ploy, treating Sumeragi as some "onee-sama" to be defended at all costs, when in fact, it was a grown man masquerading as an anime girl. Why we played host to such lunacy here, agreeing with Sumeragi about his barbaric and outdated worldviews is beyond me.
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