As a prelude, may I ask what you happen to think about 'canon' in the Macross universe?

I have my reasons for not posting what I think on the forum...though most people might think it's a bit too extreme, given that discussion IS precisely the point of participating in a forum.

Perhaps you might understand once you know what I think? It all starts with 'Kawamori's approach to Macross', and I'm quite happy to elaborate in VM or PM, just not in the threads themselves

Monir you are someone on this forum I do respect, so let me be clear here, I'm not exactly naive about how my commentary often provokes aggressive reactions towards me. Hey, even the other day someone gave me a death threat in a rep which I did report to relentless to have absolved. All this because I dare push into uncomfortable territory.

Some including you may consider it crude at times, but I only say these things earnestly. Terms I threw in like "lolicon" certainly are going to push people's buttons, but am I doing it for shits and giggles? No, not at all. I am approaching this issue because I think it's something that should be brought up. I am seriously approaching the audience here to consider what exactly the show is displaying on screen. Is it so bad to ponder the idea that there really are people who get off on fanserivce of ten year old girls?

Yeah I also consider that sort of content to be quite frankly trash, and boy people never fail to get incited at having their dearest shows described as trash. Alternatively I could always say something like "This series was extremely displeasing and offensive to me," but like I said before, I think it's really letting it off too easy for me. For me it's better to call it out on for what I truly perceive it as.

Anyways, about your point about being redundant... You might find it childish, but when I see certain posters being very dismissive and seemingly unable to hold together a real conversation, sometimes I do find it frustrating, especially when I feel there is intellectual dishonesty going on.

I won't say your wrong by any means. I do sometimes make it harder on myself, but sometimes that is just the cost of actually getting in people's faces. I won't lie though that sometimes I act very immaturely.

It's not like we're all a bunch of young elementary school kids here who need protection from the evils of this world. I think people here should be sufficiently mature to handle a bit of brutal commentary.

Ok to be less vague, no I don't mind. I'm perfectly open to it .

Since it's a bit off topic took it here.

Not sure if this is both a slight and a compliment at the same time ... But really I'm not so sure what is wrong with taking note for certain material in a show being both abrasive and crude. This show has not been so innocent with us for me to feel differently about it.

I may sound crude in my description of the show, but I really think I've assessed it honestly for what it has given us. There has been worrisome signs that it really indeed may be the kind of trash you would never consider appropriate in any social situation. I'm sorry, but in no way do I see it as normal for a guardian to express some sort of embarrassed reaction at the pantsu of a 10 year old girl.

There are so many things about this that just comes off as incredibly vulgar. So yeah, my language and tone in describing the show are not exactly the most polite. But hey, I am not attacking any posters, and have deferred all my comments to being about the show itself. I sincerely hope we are allowed to illustrate this about the show and are allowed to call it out on such stuff. Dancing around the show with fancy euphemisms or soft punches is not getting the point across enough, and really I think is letting it off easy.

It's not like we're all a bunch of young elementary school kids here who need protection from the evils of this world. I think people here should be sufficiently mature to handle a bit of brutal commentary.

TYVM btw ... and sorry to bug you about what was prolly a small thing - I saw you were "the mod logged in" and such.

Heya Monir ... can you take a look in the Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai thread and see if it is necessary to make a general announcement for people to calm down with the pointed remarks on other people's opinions for or against fanservice?

I think it would be worthwhile to do, but you may think differently, considering it to be normal carrying on appropriate to a thread discussion....

I still like it.

Thanks It's good to be back

This time I'm staying for good... no more disappearing on you guys

Oh blah blah blah, I'm not sick that often. It's over now, I still kind of sound like a weird mix between a duck and a squirrel. But I'm not sick anymore! Yay! Glad she's doing good!

Ahh you should give it another chance... I always do, but that's probably because it was the first anime I ever watched and completely fell in love with. Right now the manga has been amazing, at least in my opinion. I won't spoil you in hope that you'll watch it It's the Xecution arc I'm on about, if you didn't know. Take a look. It completely fooled me during the manga, Kubo made another fun wannabe Bounto arc - only like 120% better (Although I enjoy Bounto...!)