Decided to leave a vm instead of going off-topic in the FT thread...but yeah, what I meant to say is, in OP we got Smoker, Garp, Aokiji, Sengoku, even the tenryuubito, who are analyzed as characters each with their own morales and sense of justice, while in FT we got the ten holy great mages, about who we know nothing about besides they're "good guys". So, when compared to Marineford, the council is pretty empty character-wise. That is all