Nope, that can still relate to physical damage, concidering every single one of Nanoha's attacks are magical.

Edit: The term magic damage itself is a confusing one, anwyay. Can't you think of a better one, Chaos?

I don't know... I can bet their counter would be

"But that could mean just any spell attacks!"

We have to go right back to the source... back when people first wondered why Fate wasn't well-done after being hit by Starlight Breaker...

See? :p

It's not MY words :heh:

I think it was more along the lines of not harming Hayate's body in order to save both her and Fate.

He also says 'don't hold anything back' converting physical damage into spiritual damage would do so. Besides, concidering you would be attacking Hayate's soul, wouldn't that be even more dangerous?

...Stop using the word 'soul' :heh:

I didn't mean it as in LITERALLY her soul ... :heh:

Craft Dmg.
Mana Dmg.
Linker Dmg.
Spell-Cast Dmg.
...

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Or my own personal favorite...
Lyrical Damage. :heh:

Hehe. Spiritual damage? So YOU were the one who started that.:heh:

I like to think of it as more of HP and MP damage.

Then what else are we supposed to be using? You're the one claiming that they're not attacked on a physical level.

Yeesh, I feel as if no-one read my post using defense instead of beams as an argument.

After all, the only reason this started was because people could survive hit without a scratch on their body.

I've already change it to "magical properties".

I'm not the one who first said the Starlight Breaker does Magic damage only... Damn, where are the more experienced people when you need them?

When does this episode air.
I'm sure the no-blood and few scratches might be explained with air-times and audience very easily. :D

I, for one am not discounting the role of Barrier Jackets in defense. But of course, it also functions as physical defense aside from magic defense. Getting thrown thru buildings proves it's worth despite looking like cosplay costumes.:heh:

1:10 AM? At this time I'd expect flying limbs and decapitated magical girls :rolleyes:

Umm, I think Keroko's brought up discussions about defense would be a good topic right now.

The barrier jacket design never really mattered much. It defends you against both spells and physical weapons all the same. The no cuts and no scratches even after smashing into buildings makes this all the more valid, right?

*Wave hand in front of face*

The Barrier jacket is a fancy piece of armor, yes yes... Why else would it be there...

Like the "Phase Shift"...

(Yes, I KNOW they work differently...)

Sooo, are the parties already in agreement?:confused:

I have never doubt the Barrier Jacket as a form of protection :heh: Nor can I deny that they provide some level of defence for both physical and magic base damage.

(Ah ha! The term does exist officially! I'm not crazy!!!! MUWHAHAHAHAHA...!)

Actually, I think you've gone crazy AFTER the confirmation of your claims.:heh:

I think you should quote Thisguy's post here to avoid confusion.
Ah, nevermind, I'll do it instead.

Unfortunately, this still doesn't prove your 'spirit/soul/linker/watachamacallit damage' claim (as I never denied the existece of the magical damage term, I just found magical damage and physical damage to have the same result, namely physical injury).

After all, this was the chapter ThisGuy was reffering to (Note Hayate explaining the rules about none lethal attacks in the bottom right frame):

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...NA_07_-_15.png

and this was the result:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...NA_07_-_20.png

Now, you try and explain to me why all those people are charred and dirty, or what all that rubble is doing there if the attacks were supposed to be non-physical. :D

Seems like my claim about down-powering your attacks is far more likely.

"Magical Property".

Well, that's easy :)

Magical attacks affect Barrier Jackets because they're magic-base to begin with, hence their jackets are in a mess.

And a physical attack can also be "non-lethal", doesn't mean it's purely magic base. Which would explain all the rubble.

And I've got official info as back up :p for my 'magic damage' claim on Starlight Breaker :p

Three possible answers and two relative questions. You may take your pick.:D

Here goes:


I was under the impression that the clashing S-ranked attacks far surpassed the pre-set parameters of the training room and caused a major breakdown in the equipment, which leads to explosion.:confused:


When did they say that physical damage are prohibited in the match? Hayate said non-lethal and not non-physical. Signum, Vita and the others wouldn't fit in, otherwise.


It was just a case of the producers not thinking as far ahead as us.:heh:


We could always bring up the issue of why did the water gushed upward when Nanoha fired a purely magic damage Starlight Breaker on Fate during S1?


Why wasn't there a scratch on Uminari City after Reinforce 1 fired off her Starlight Breaker?




Basically, we're only arguing ourselves into a corner and out of it later.:heh:

Personally, I think the concepts of the several types of damages are not as well thought out by the producers, so there are several noticeable plot holes that can be seen if you look closely enough.:heh:

Like I said, this isn't STAR WARS.:heh: