I know about that, but it has been 50 years....
They still hold a grudge? You would thought that they would get better with Communist China instead Capitalist west... In any way, China is all alone, it's time they change as well. |
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If China want it, Vietnam isn't going to just hand it over. And being Communist will change NOTHING. Because territory dispute is more important than political ideology. Frankly your reply makes no sense. Of course claims can be changed. Just as I can forcefully take all your belongings if I have a large enough number of armed thugs. Why should Vietnam share with China what they already own exclusively? If China want to use force, then they can. But until then Vietnam isn't going to surrender. They didn't surrender to America, back then, so why should they surrender to China now? |
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Why don't you organised a form of compromise and share your bank account details with me? It is sharing, surely you would just do that because it is better than me taking your money at gun point? Seriously... compromise? sharing? You are speaking in code. I know you are smarter than that, so clearly you are implying something else. I find that very, very rude. |
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The bank ccount example makes sense because I want his money, and I want to take it from him. He can share his details so I wouldn't hurt him, or I take his money anyway AND hurt him. That's China's position. But the thing is, Vietnam rightly or wrongly, has pride in defeating the Unite States in battle. And that means they are not going to back down on China either. Any suggestion that Vietnam "share" simply makes no sense, because you know full well that a smaller nation can NEVER share its territory with its stronger neighbour. It is literally suicide. A small nation has to hold on to all its territory, or it would cease to exist. Sharing is automatically the equivalent of being absorbed by the stronger neighbour, much like the satellite states of the USSR. Vietnam CAN'T share with China, because it isn't an equal relationship. They are either separate, or become a vassal state. |
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...claims_map.jpg Vietnam wants to take sea territory that is about 3 times bigger than their state which is ridiculous. The way I see it China indeed has the right to the biggest percentage of territory. |
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Why should China suddenly extend its claim down INTO the middle of other lands? (Well, okay, we know WHY China would do that. But just because we know why doesn't mean they get to make it true.) Yes, Vietnam is long and thin, it means they have a long beach. That's just geography. Nowhere is there a rule saying your ocean territory has to be a fixed proportion of your landmass. If that is the case then Russia would have a damn HUGE oceanic claim. Be careful of what you are saying. |
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And with China building enough islands she is basically cementing that claim. No wonder everyone are agaisnt it. Why should they claim? Going by territory alone they are the biggest and should take the largest percentage of the sea. Quote:
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Note that the dispute has everything to do with the Exclusive Economic Zones claims, which extend a maximum of 200 nautical miles (370 km).
Note: France holds the most waters on Earth via massive amounts of EEZ. |
Actually the EU has the largest if we are counting it as a single entity rather than a country.
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If you count the EU as a single entity that includes France anyway.
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China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the
Internet works: "First there was the Berlin Wall. Now there is the Great Firewall of China, not a physical barrier preventing people from leaving, but a virtual one, preventing information harmful to the Communist Party from entering the country. Just as one fell, so will the other be eventually dismantled, because information, like people, cannot be held back forever. Or so the argument goes. But try telling that to Beijing. Far from knocking down the world’s largest system of censorship, China in fact is moving ever more confidently in the opposite direction, strengthening the wall’s legal foundations, closing breaches and reinforcing its control of the Web behind the wall." See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...mepage%2Fstory |
China has begun to send nuclear submarines to patrol China south sea.
It's all fun and games and democracy and supremacy until someone start playing with the big red button. To me this looks like prequel to "Fallout". xD |
An Arbitral Tribunal is expected to rule this month on a South China Sea territorial dispute between China and the Philippines.
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South China Sea: Hague rules in favor of Philippines over China.
Since this is Hague and therefore UN I am not expecting much from this decision. It will be interesting to see will USA sanction China like they did Russia and kick them from G7 if Chinese do not step down ( which they won't anyway ). |
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