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kalbron

2009-04-30 16:11

Yep. No promotion. No nickname. Just got thrown more and more into the thick of the war.

Hope he got a generous retirement package in the end!

Father Hentai

2009-05-01 07:41

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Originally Posted by Tak (Post 2368354)

He tried to step down. He asked Eleanor if the decision to make him platoon leader was justified. She replied that his actions in Bruhl more than qualifies him for the role.

Moreover, a good inspirational leader is one that people could trust. While he might not appear to be your typical soldier, he has yet to fail his mates. If you say a leader is one that fills confidence, then he is certainly doing that part. So far, he has not led his platoon astray, and clearly his platoon has confidence in him and his ability to win battles.

... why is Valkyria suddenly giving me LoGH vibes?

- Tak

As far as I can judge him as a retired sergeant he is a good officer and leader. He cares about his troops and he does push his soldiers into something he would not do too. He worths life more than anything else.

And also what makes him a good comrade - no matter what rank - is he does not pull the "I am the officer and you have to follow my orders" attitude what most officer almost put into normal military duty. they have the right command you but rights of command always bears responsibility for their troops morale.

spawnofthejudge

2009-05-01 09:38

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Originally Posted by kalbron (Post 2370698)

Yep. No promotion. No nickname. Just got thrown more and more into the thick of the war.

Hope he got a generous retirement package in the end!

Spoiler for Game ending spoilers:

Wargumm1i

2009-05-02 06:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by spawnofthejudge (Post 2372091)

Spoiler for Game ending spoilers:

Spoiler:

grylsyjaeger

2009-05-02 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wargumm1i (Post 2373976)

Spoiler:

Are you being sarcastic, mate?

Spoiler for End Game:

Willen

2009-05-02 09:24

Ouch, that's a HUGE spoiler there.

Edit: had to emphasize how huge of a spoiler the previous post contained.

Chaho-Chi

2009-05-02 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallschirmjager (Post 2374045)

Are you being sarcastic, mate?

Spoiler for End Game:

I never played the game before so I had a big temptation to click on that.
It was kinda obvious though :heh:

Welkin gets annoying when he's oblivious but can get funny at the same time.

Tak	2009-05-02 15:59

Funny thing is, Welkin is extremely serious when he needs to be. His antics in the anime during times of battle is almost unseen in the game.

For example, Welkin had no hesitation when it became apparent that he needed to operate his father's tank, and rush to Alicia's aid. He is more socially awkward in the game than he is a complete dolt like his anime counterpart.

Then again, they made Alicia a tsundere already, so... heh...

- Tak

Barbobot

2009-05-02 16:11

The anime though can also spend a lot more time with Welkin outside of issues dealing with missions and battles so we get to see more of that side of him. But even with that his social awkwardness has gone up a few steps.

al103

2009-05-02 19:42

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Originally Posted by Tak (Post 2374716)

For example, Welkin had no hesitation when it became apparent that he needed to operate his father's tank, and rush to Alicia's aid. He is more socially awkward in the game than he is a complete dolt like his anime counterpart.

If video that i did see is from the game... and judging by your words action is already started before Welkin participated, then imperial troops already shot some civilians by that time and Welkin got in his serious mode. In anime civilians were evacuated and town guard were shot only after Welkin got in action and after that he also became serious.

justinstrife

2009-05-06 00:02

I DEFINITELY like Welkin from the game better. Kind of disappointed with him in the anime in someways, but I know he'll get better as the series goes on.

grylsyjaeger

2009-05-07 05:55

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Originally Posted by Willen (Post 2374144)

Ouch, that's a HUGE spoiler there.

Edit: had to emphasize how huge of a spoiler the previous post contained.

I did say it was "End Game" so obviously it's going to ruin the end for anyone who reads it...

Willen

2009-05-07 07:29

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Originally Posted by fallschirmjager (Post 2382193)

I did say it was "End Game" so obviously it's going to ruin the end for anyone who reads it...

Yeah, but you over-answered the question. :p

HunterSeeker

2009-05-07 10:18

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Originally Posted by fallschirmjager (Post 2374045)

Are you being sarcastic, mate?

Spoiler for End Game:

Speaking of that, I saw the game video of Chapter 16 on Niconico Douga and it's simply the best scene I ever watched.

Spoiler for this particular part:

I hope teh anime will keep this:P

Tak	2009-05-07 10:26

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Originally Posted by HunterSeeker (Post 2382464)

Speaking of that, I saw the game video of Chapter 16 on Niconico Douga and it's simply the best scene I ever watched.

Spoiler for this particular part:

I hope teh anime will keep this:P

I don't care what people say about shipping, because at that point, that scene alone puts Faldio far, far, far, far, far behind.

- Tak

grylsyjaeger

2009-05-07 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterSeeker (Post 2382464)

Speaking of that, I saw the game video of Chapter 16 on Niconico Douga and it's simply the best scene I ever watched.

Spoiler for this particular part:

I hope teh anime will keep this:P

Yeah that's my favourite scene from the game. I cried the first time I saw it and it still gets me teary on each playthrough.... D=

justinstrife

2009-05-07 20:20

I really hope we see that too. It was epic IMO.

hamstar

2009-05-07 22:09

Welkin's a biology grad right? He's a bio university grad who took a few courses in combat and so he gets to be military leader. I love how the world works. Actually this is exactly what North America was like pre 1950's i believe. Having a undergrad degree meant you could be hired for pretty much anything. Now having an undergrad degree like biology just means you wont get employed anywhere unless you know someone. That or you can work some minimum wage job if they even hire you.

4Tran

2009-05-08 00:27

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Originally Posted by hamstar (Post 2383271)

The proper comparison is with inter-war Germany. Welkin would have recieved the same kind of military training that all young Gallians receive, and his post-secondary education and pedigree are what got him his commission. Given Welkin's personality and interests, it's almost certain that he would have gone on to pursue a graduate degree and stayed in academe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamstar (Post 2383271)

Having a undergrad degree meant you could be hired for pretty much anything. Now having an undergrad degree like biology just means you wont get employed anywhere unless you know someone. That or you can work some minimum wage job if they even hire you.

Even if it weren't for the above, Welkin does have connections. His father was a very well-respected General, and Gallia is a very militaristic culture.

hamstar

2009-05-08 00:42

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Originally Posted by 4Tran (Post 2383432)

While Welkin isn't the most conventional of characters or soldiers, I'm not sure why anyone would have much against him. He may be a little goofy now and then, but he's actually quite capable, and he's already accomplished as much as most mecha protagonists do, and he did so without all the accompanying angst that's so prevalent. Heck, he's been even getting better with his tactics as they've getting less and less gimmicky.

I not drawn to any of the charcters in Valkyria Chronicle in particular, but Welkin is my favorite of the bunch so far. And that's even though his tank doesn't make any sense :p.

The proper comparison is with inter-war Germany. Welkin would have recieved the same kind of military training that all young Gallians receive, and his post-secondary education and pedigree are what got him his commission. Given Welkin's personality and interests, it's almost certain that he would have gone on to pursue a graduate degree and stayed in academe.

Even if it weren't for the above, Welkin does have connections. His father was a very well-respected General, and Gallia is a very militaristic culture.

okay what about welkin's friend? the guy in anthropology, he's a squad leader as well. His dad is no war hero iirc.

dont get me wrong, i never bashed welkin. If anything im bashing the way things are now. Everyone has an undergrad degree now, having a bio or anthro degree is the equivalent of a toilet paper degree today. Not to mention the bio and anthro grads today are much more knowledgeable compared to past academics obviously. Another funny tidbit, bio & anthro degrees used to be 3yrs only now they are 4 yrs.

I just sit in complete awe at what you could do with a degree back in the good ol' days. I never made a mistake really I clearly said pre-1950's so that still stands. I know a guy that had a degree in education in 1950. He went job hunting and when he applied to be a police man (despite no experience) they refused to make him one, instead they offered him to be the head of their police division. My mind explodes.

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