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2011-01-31 01:26 |
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Originally Posted by houkoholic
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As always, trust Kaoshin to make inflammatory comments on subjects matters he has no knowledge of. :eyebrow:
It would be equally an abomination to borrow an established mecha anime in name only and turn it into something totally different. Something such as the Toei Mecha Girl project perhaps? The moe crowd will lap it up and would probably claim it is "more interesting" than the original mecha shows they were based on (come'on if you ever watched the original GaiKing I challenge you to say that it was actually an interesting super robot show compared with the other classics). But given that these shows are parodies they can still get away with it. Xenoglossia is really just at a completely different level of alteration. All the fans asked was that if the company is going to do a totally different show, then do it properly and not borrow an establish name, otherwise it reeks of no confidence in the show that they are producing in that they had to borrow a name to do bait-and-switch marketing. That's why people criticize it.
And to be honest we really haven't had a true non-magical "idol" anime since, I dunno, Love Doll 4 years ago? If you just lump everything into a big "moe idol" blanket then yeah, we've probably have a few of those recently (I'm sure you are thinking K-On, considering your history of a crusade of sorts against KyoAni, but really it doesn't take 2 brain cells to see that imas and K-On shares no similarities except they both have girls singing), but Idolmaster as a pure "girls wanting to be top idol" with no magic/sci-fi/fantasy spin kind of story with no ero/romance is a pretty rare story line (otherwise I suppose White Album and Macross would count :heh:).
As for cutesy songs, imas song variety is really diverse and has half the casts that are highly skilled singers, not just moe/high pitched singers that sings denpa/moe songs. Any songs by Chihaya, Azusa, Makoto, Takane and Hibiki are almost guaranteed to NOT be cutesy songs. Go listen to "Aoi Tori", "Arcadia" by Chihaya (Imai Asami), "Tonari ni" by Azusa (Takahashi Chiaki), "Agent yoru wo yuku" Makoto (Hirada Hiromi), "Next Life" by Hibiki (Numakura Manami) and see for youself. Then there's classics like "relations", "Overmaster", "Me ga au toki", "9:02pm", "massugu", "inferno", "my song" etc, there are so many good non-cutesy songs from Idolmaster that brushing it off as "cutesy" is just plain ignorance and shows that you have no objectivity.
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Are you done? :eyebrow:
Anyway it's still your turn now so you'll hopefully get all those things you'd want out of an iDOLM@STER adaptation. However, I would be lying if I said I wouldn't have personally preferred a sequel to Xenoglossia. Also I've "played" iDOLM@STER, I actually have a copy for 360 lying around and I have to say it's pretty damn cutesy and not much of a game or even very interesting by my standards. However the fans of it certainly deserve to be served with a more faithful adaptation that carries into the anime what brought fans to the game in the first place.....whatever that is.
As for why we haven't had many idol animes before if I had to hazard a guess it's because (Warning: Time to get inflammatory I guess...though how much more inflammatory than people taking shots at Xenoglossia remains to be seen) the ones so far have been pretty terrible. The one that sticks out most in my memory is the Lemon Angel Project where they got gravure idol Ryo Shihono (who has no experience acting whatsoever) to do a voice. I've yet to read a review that wasn't particularly scathing of that performance. Then of course there was Lovely Idol which was also pretty panned across the board....in fact the only idol themed show I can recall that was generally well-received off the top of my head was Full Moon O Sagashite. If they can work that series charm with an iDOLM@STER adaptation they might have my interest yet (though I don't see how that's going to work with a straight up adaptation), but whose to say they don't just play cash-in with the video game fans and put out something incredibly safe and forgettable.
I guess my point is that people are quick to vilify the efforts of the iDOLM@STER Xenoglossia crew in being creative and retooling the license into something else by calling "cash-in" while there's arguably equal chance of this adaptation played straight being little more than a cash-in that only fans of the game are going to care about. People are free to see it there way of course, but the way it comes across to me is a little sketchy and presumptuous.
P.S: Believe it or not I'm not nearly so possessive of mecha anime that I would find fault with a company for retooling a license to attempt to target it at a different audience that otherwise wouldn't be interested in what was being offered. In fact I've seen it happen many many times already (for example when this happened I took it in stride) and was perfectly fine living with it since they're still making shows I like all the time anyway. Maybe that makes me a terrible fan, I don't know.
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Originally Posted by Nikanoru
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So it's got nothing to do with the actual quality of the show itself? I guess I can kind of understand your reasons, but it's a shame really. It's lovely when you come into it with a blank slate, so to speak. It's certainly one of my personal favorites.
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Hahahahaha! Of course not, it doesn't work that way in these cases. It's all about being as arbitrary and bitter as possible.
Seriously though, don't feel guilty for wishing for a Xenoglossia sequel. I actually find it quite interesting to see someone who was made aware of the whole iDOLM@STER thing not by the games but by Xenoglossia. Obviously they did something right with that idea.
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Originally Posted by applejuice
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and there is nothing wrong with that.
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I was actually being sarcastic lol.
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